>>1316306

Sure. There could be a lead up to the tournament even, with the Terror Guard fighting a few battles on other worlds with the backing of the WB, then have some Inquisitor trace them to the source and start a crusade to wipe it out, cue campaign. The eldar could be there because of the powerful psyker, perhaps they need him for some reason, or they need to influence him to cause a cataclysm that will be beneficial to the Eldar in the long run.

On "There are two Eclipsion armies, the alive and fearfull and the monsters"
-This seems like a good plan, but instead of making them two different armies, i'll simply play them as different units in one army. When houseruling, the monster units deeps trike from reserves, to simulate appearing out of the mist that slowly gather whereever the Terrorguard goes.

ALIVE UNITS: IF companies, conscripts, etc
MONSTER UNITS: Counts as genestealers/stormtroopers/Ogryns etc. heavier units.

>>1316325

I actually liked that idea of having all the units on the table from the beginning, BUT, having them switch to nightmare mode at a certain time during the game to simulate the mist following the Guard.

>>1316316
A really Manlytears end to the campaign would be something as follows:

The Eclipsion Starchild ran through the hidden corridors of his temple. The enemy was rigth behind him, each clawing over the others to claim the child. Eclipsion was ablaze unlike it had ever been since the coming of the Word Bearers. The starchild was afraid. Afraid that he'd lose his dream.

The Word Bearer lord was in the top tower, the very same where general Scipius had fired his final shot. In his hands were the bloodied remains of a few foolhardy junior Inquisitors who had tried to kill him. The starchild rushed in, tears in his eyes, clinging to the head of his father.
"The enemy is after me! My guardian has died and my dream is shattering! Protect me my lord!" he cried.
The word bearer grasped the child with his arm, wrenching the precious head from him.
"You have FAILED the gods... Just as you failed your father..." the marine snarled.
"I...I...I NEVER FAILED MY FATHER! I DID ALL I COULD! THEY WOULDN'T LET ME!"
The head turned its eyes on the Star child and spoke. "You always had the power to save me. YOU were too much of a COWARD to do it! YOU FAILED ME AND NOW YOU FAILED AGAIN!"
The starchild saw through his tears as the massive powerfist of the Word Bearer crushed the head of his father. The Eclipsion Dream was shattering. The enemy had taken away everything. His world was now but barren ash, all the gifts that had been given and built for him were but rubble. His friends dead, and even his father gone forever.

The Eclipsion Starchild's last vision was the mighty terminator lord teleporting away from the temple. His vision went blurry and then dark. All he could hear was the barking and screaming of the enemy. They would soon decend upon him like raveous beasts. There was noone left to protect him. The dream was over. The nightmare had begun.

>>1316399
....
Why don't you write for the black library?

>>1316411

Because you'd need to be able to write novels on a regular basis.

We're only good when it comes to short vignettes , like what's required for short fluff pieces.

>>1316399

Awesome. Drawfags on this plz.

>>1316399
So.. to the starchild, tall the Imperials and Eldar were monsters and daemons?

FUCK YES YOU ARE THE BEST FLUFF EVER.

>>1316468
Silent hill suddenly works both ways?
Holy fuck.

>>1316325
So, the original traitors who followed Scorpius are still (relatively) human while anyone else (Scipius, enemies killed in battle, etc) are the monsters?

>>1316827

Those that embraced Chaos and did not flinch from the horrors remained human. I guess the child allowede them to be since everyone needs an audience. Those whose minds snapped during the final battle when the Word Bearers got the child to unleash its power are monsters that are trapped in the nightmare. Not sure about defeated foes, it could increase the power of this army exponentionally, especially since they are essentially a localized warp storm that bring a conduit to the Eye of Terror (via Eclipsion) wherever they go.

>>1316841
I like the way you think.

On the subject of Eclipsion itself, where should it be? Near the Eye? Near the Maelstrom? As fa the fuck away from high-population imperial space as possible (They didn't know Space Marines are real, Eclipsion obviously isn't next to Cadia or something)?

>>1316873

I think Eclipsion should actually be quite far away from the eye. The Word Bearers would be drawn to the planet due to the machinations of the heretical Starchild cult and the clandestine gathering of psykers (that would obviously arouse the attention of Tzeentch). Remember the heresy started before the WB arrived.

>>1316841
so lets recap on the early bits.
-Eclipsion governor uses his wife to have a starchild-ritual
-Eclipsion Starchild is born
-governor hides child under his place to keep him safe
-time passes
-Word Bearers arrive
-half the guard defects
-Traitor Guard raid the capital
-Word bearers personaly invade palace catacombs
-Governor dies
-Word Bearers take the child and awaken his powers
-Scipius gets to see the nightmare begin
-Word Bearers get the governors head for the starchild.

OR

-same as above
-word bearers claim the child EARLY in the war
-Nightmare begins long before the governor dies

which is better?

>>1316904

The first one. Silent Hill always comes after the trama, not during it. He'd create the whole thing, perhaps, the keep his father "alive", to keep the planet alive.

Hell, have the monsters actually be the dead guardsmen, brought back in some horrible perversion of him wishing for everything to go back how it was before.

And to him, they're normal. They're not the raving monsters everyone sees, they're people, who talk and laugh and joke and are always nice to him. His best friends. His only friends.

>>1316904

You know, since most of the fluff is written from an Imperial perspective, it's easy to leave this intentionally vague. All the inquisitor researching the case knows for the moment is:

-There was a starchild ritual in Eclipsion involving the Governor's son
-This was kept secret from the Inquisition, which must have taken extremely careful planning and execution
-Word Bearers arrived at the world, heresy broke out (probably before the Chaos marine arrival, stirred up by the Starchild worshippers?), a warp storm overtook the planet, the whole system is now Perditus
-The Eclipsian Guard has since sortied to other worlds under the command of the Word Bearers and they bring glimpses of their nightmarish homeworld with them wherever they fight.

>>1316944

but... but... he said I was his only friend...

>>1316944

And that's why the switch should be so dramatic, building on the earlier topic. Have the dream world scenery and troopers look nice, peacrful, out of a dream from some childhood fantasy. Something unreal, almost too perfect. And it'd be hard, but try to add in that little disfiguration here, that blip there, see if your opponent would notice. And then, when the switch comes, he gets to see the truth...

>>1316977
BEEDING CHRIST THE WALLS HAVE FACES!
>>1316950
This... is just plain scary.
In Silent Hill you needed to actually go there for shit to get messed up.
The Eclipsion Guard just brings the nightmare anywhere they go...

>>1317024

Three sort of proved you can bring it with you.

>>1317024
In Silent Hill 3, the town Heather was in turned into Otherworld.
Then again, hether was pregnant by a god.

>>1317045
Silent Hill 3 was the damn scariest one.

>>1317024
Someone should put this all into a PDF or something and rapidshit it.

>>1317054

For a PDF we still need

- Full army list with options

- Illustrations

- More fluff pieces

This kind of armies are what would make playing Daemonhunters actually interesting/entertaining, instead of random barely scary killer-demons here are there.

Win/win

This could be the premise for a good DH campaign as well, not just an Apoc tournament.

>>1317055
Current list is just the IG list with undivided CSM and Terminators, Carnifexes (huge daemons), Broodlords (Scipius as Pyramid Head) and a few super-heavy tanks. We should stat the starchild though.
Suggested doctrines were
-Ligth Infantry
-Chem Inhalers
-Warrior Weapons / Techpriests
-Bionics / Carapace Armour
-Ogryns

We have a good load of illustration in the original thread. More would be better, though.

And i agree, we need more fluff.

I wish I had been in on the ground floor. I'm generally good at this stuff...oh, and I thought The Room was the scariest >_> *ducks*

>>1317065
I wonder if Eclipsion would be enough to make the Daemonhunters shit bricks?

Ultimate Kill-Team game, a lone Inquisitor VS the full eclipsion guard. Inquisitor gets pickup heathpacks / movie marine stats.

>>1317101

It would probably take at least a Grey Knight to down the Warp Child. I'm not sure how to emulate his psychic powers on the battlefield though.

Was the first topic archived?

>>1317112

It is, but it's actually still on the board. OP post has the link.

>>1317097
The Room was severly lacking inthe Boss department. Walter just lacked the simple awesome of Pyramid / Maria / God / Incubus.

In my opinnion:
3 (Silent Hill follows you around. NOWHERE IS SAFE AAAaaRGH! Also I'm a little girl. I can barely handle half my weapons. And none of them are HUGE HAMMERS OR SHOTGUNS)
2 (FUCK YOU PYRAMID STOP BEING IMMORTAL!!!)
0 (Oh for the love of CHRIST THE GRAPHICS ARE TOO GOOD FOR MY SANITY) (minus points for lamest last boss in the series)
1 (PS1 Graphics = not that scary. The soundtrack was chilling, though)
4 (Where are the bossfights!? And why is Walter just not that scary!?)

But yea, teh transformation would be the best part.

"FOR THE EMPERIOR!" The line of guardsmen charged the bunkers, being swiftly cut down the massed lasgun fire.

"They keep shouting that like they believe it, damn heretics." Louis looked grim as he popped one of the men in the chest, sending him crumpling to the ground.

"Maybe they do, in some twisted fashion. Not that it matters. They'll all die today, especially if they keep up these suicide charges." The guardsmen all laughed, enjoying the target practice. Besides the occasional piece of return fire, the heretics had seemed content to die in the open in nearly two dozen massed rushes. Louis thought he'd even seen a Commissar of their own among them. barking orders to the men. His thoughts returned to the battle as the last of the latest charge dropped, taking four shots before he stopped moving.

"How long of a rest do you think we get now? They seem to have stopped."

"I hope enough to eat, because I'm getting pretty hungry. Slaughter takes a lot out of you..." Another laugh arose from the group, all but one man, the new recruit.

"Wait, does anyone else hear that? It sounds like a siren." Silence fell as the soliders strained their ears, humoring the boy.

"Wait, I hear it too." And Louis did, far off, faint, but there. It reminded him of the air raid sirens from home, something he'd heard all his life. But something was different, was...wrong, and the sound chilled him to the bone.

CONT

>>1317110
Seing he is some kind of post-alpha, it'd take several knights. Probably terminators. And blanks.

Witch Hunter codex has stats for rogue psykers, shall we use them as a base and tweak them around? Also in the White Dwarf article detailing Kill Team Nemesis-bosses, one type was an "Unsane", a very psycological psyker thing with eye-beams.

>>1317149

"What in the..." Fog rolled in from the enemy encampment, appearing from nowhere, a thick, impretrenable mist. It oozed over the fields, reaching the fallen guard, and had soon overtaken them.

"Is this some kind of attack? It's melting the walls!" Indeed, the walls seemed to be falling apart, their metal bunkers turning to rust and decaying at an insane rate. "Is it doing anything to us?"

"FOR..THE...EMPEROR..." Shambling could be heard from beyond the blanket of fog. The guard opened fire before they even saw their enemy, but they got no result, no screams of pain, nothing but the shambling.

"In the Emperors name!" The guard appeared again, walking towards them, but everything was wrong. They were ruined, rotting, dead. In his panicked gaze Louis saw the man he'd killed, chest still smolding as he shambled forward, his face replaced with a mess of flesh and blood and pus. And the Commisar was there too, but he hung from a cross limply, ravaged and beaten and quite obviously dead, the whole thing dragged along by the corpses.

"Fire!" The Commisar's orders shook them all awake, and they began to fire wildly, with no order or intent except to keep what was in front of them away. But the weapons did nothing. Most who were shot ignored it, those that fell began to climb back to their feat, unyielding. Louis briefly saw one of them pause for a split second, just stop moving, and the next second he was bring ripped to pieces, torn limb from limb by invisible forces. Shifting his vision back to his targets, he swore he saw the dead Commissar *move*.


Damn it I write way to much.

>>1317157

"Keep firing!" They were close now, scat feet from the bunker, but they just kept walking. No runs, no drawing of weapons, just a terrible, distored walk. Louis heard screams of pain and fear as the first reached their base, and then it was nothing but a whirlwind of stabbing and pushing and screaming and then one of them had him, pinned to the ground. The last thing he ever saw as it reached for his face was it's bloodshot, insane eyes, howling through the mess of it's throat.

"FOR...THE...EMPEROR..."

>>1317149
FUCKFUCKFUCKSIRENSFUCK

>>1317110

Make him a normal Pskyer, or a hero one. Say most of his power is going into maintaining the illusion and contro.

As for powers, I'm stumped.

>>1317169

To amend that, say most of his powers are going into maintain the illusion. It's when he loses concentration, say, when he senses his friends being "killed", he gets angry, and things go bad...

>>1317169
everything in Chaos, Daemonhunter and Witchunter codices.
And the ability to throw vortex granades.
Maybe a Monolith Portal ability to summon his protectors.
And something like -7 LD to everyone in LoS.

>>1317172
Should fearless models be immune or forced to take armour saves?
"You seem to have no fear... Very well... then let your mind be torn asunder."

Chaos Marines modeled as a half traitor guard/half lost and the damned horrible chaos mutants army?

I mean no point in reinventing the wheel if you can find a codex that will let you do what you want. You can model the badassery of these guys by having them count as Chaos Marines or something.

>>1317176

Immune. If you're strong enough, then Silent Hill really can't get to you. James managed to throw them off quite a bit, after all.

>>1317179
Apoc Army, so IG and CMS can mix.

For non-apoc purposes, probably the best bet is IG with allied Daemonhunters that count as CSM.

I just read through the thread and FUCK YES YOU ARE THE BEST IG EVER!

>>1316977
>>1316950

Think I've got the way to do it. Do this, for the most part, except have a few guardsmen, maybe one per unit, maybe sometimes too, have them screaming, crying, not even fighting. When you get questions, just answer with a shrug and a nod, don't give any reasons for it. Maybe even, if you're good with the painting and modeling, have one of your Commissar's look turely dead, arms at his sides, face pale and frozen in death.

And then, when you switch all those units, leave those guard there, have those be the ones who are still alive. Hopefully it would be as creept to your opponent as it would be to me.

>>1317133
Dude, Walter was awesome. Always following you...chasing you DX

>>1317243
Commissars aren't even really people now. They're these sort of straw scarecrow things strung up on crosses and dragged around by the guardsmen. There's a cap at the top and maybe when you get close to one you can hear shouting and gunfire as if from very far away. They seem like inanimate objects, but the Guardsmen are scared of them, so scared. Whenever one of them starts to run or otherwise shows cowardice, the commissar just seems to..."look" at them without moving, and the Guardsmen is suddenly torn apart invisibly. : )

>>1317247
Walter was waaaay too Clock Tower.
In fact, most of SH4 was Clock Tower. Not enough blood, rust and fucked-to-hell-and-back monsters.

>>1317264

Yea, in the horror world. But in the dream world, they're still alive, still barking orders, still leading their loyal and brave men...

>>1317230
I hope you read both threads.

Eclipsion truly shows that /tg/ can get shit done. This has to be the very polar opposite of the Plebian Guard...

>>1317272
indeed I did sir. Indeed I did.
>>1317271
and yeah, that works better. But I don't think they should be memorable. If you look at a dream-commisar, your mind picks up the cap and the coat, but your eyes just slip away from the face.

I think the Eclipsion Starchild should look absolutely normal. No mutation, no trauma, no silenthillyness. Just a normal boy in a robe. Talking to a head...
To him, all those who the Word Bearer Lord fears, are monsters.
But his friend keeps him safe. He does not need to fear...

>>1317296
I can kida imagine being in that temple room of his.
You look at the boy. he seems normal enoug. Exept you know that he is wrong. Your soul feels it. When he speaks, it is as if far away, hidden in the shadows, a chorus of men would repeat his every word. Backwards. You can't look him in the eye. If you try, you look away. you just can't look. And when you look away from him, you see his guardian. And then, you will never see anything again.

>>1317271
do the Eclipsians need some kind of beacons to the Eclipsian Starchild's powers to maintain the illusion of them being normal / to summon the hellscape into existance, or are all the Eclipsians just natural beacons of his power?

Also, did I understand right that to the Eclipsians themselves, they all appear normal. They only look like mosnters to outsiders?

Drawfag here, is there something not too complicated needed illustrating (prioritize please).
Would be awesome with a .pdf including illustrations, fluff, army list and special characters (can you make your own in apoc?)

>>1317384
From what I understand, yes. Although to the "monsters" I don't know. What would Scipishead see when he looks around?

>>1317389
Stuff I'd like to see drawn
-The Eclipsion Starchild
-Scipius the Executioner
-Bloodlord Scorpius
-Army Standard Bearer
-Word Bearers who rule Eclipsion
-Terrorguard tanks
-Starchild fighting some maries (Grey Knights?)

>>1317396
his insane. I think he'd see more messed up shit than normal people fighting the terrorguard. Skinless people walking around, flailing in pain and begging to be killed, etc.

>>1317472

-Bloodlord Scorpius.
Would that be an imperial guard general gone chaosy? or beefed up with power armour? colour scheme?

>>1317521
I don't think we should have a lot of beefy dudes with power armour running around, at least on the Chaos side. You can have huge RIP AND TEAR guys, but putting in vanilla Chaos Marines would kinda ruin it imo. It'd be like plopping Abaddon in there, you know he'd just mess it up.

>>1317498
I think the starchild is messing with him on purpose. After all, it was Scipius who shot his father.

>>1317554
I don't think so. The Starchild is definitely a source of horror and insanity, but that's more of a byproduct of his existence. He doesn't really seem the type to be actively cruel.

>>1317521
Scorpius is kinda like a chaos Ursarkar Creed.
Colour Scheme and preferred head design can be found in >>1312058
Long hair, beard, ursarkar's uniform, some kind of cool weapon (axe, powerfist, something)

>>1317585
even to the guy who shot his dad?

>>1317592
Maybe it would be best if he looked like a normal guy. There are always some regular people who are somehow just surviving in Silent Hill. They seem creepier because you can't imagine how they could possibly be there unaltered for so long.

>>1317598
He'd be scared of the guy who shot his dad. He's only, what- 8 or 9 years old? He'd just think that a scary monster shot his dad and took him away.

>>1317605
i'm scared of what happens when he gets angry at someone...

So the only real "friends" the starchild has are the Word Bearer lord and the daemon-Sanguinus?

>>1317592
thanks, very informative and helpful. Corel painter died on me (1500*3000 pixels and too many commands in ½ a second might do that to you).

This'll take some time, but I've got a good vibe about it.

>>1317721
yay, thanks. Will be waiting eagerly.

>>1317669
Pretty much. I think that when the kid gets angry, he'd be just like any other child. He'd just want to get rid of the source of his displeasure, he wouldn't really want to string it along or mess with it.

Why isn't this on the front page? IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE ON THE FRONT PAGE!

Something like this? Don't want to start on the full body until these things have been decided on.

Should I change the pose? What weapon should he wield? Suggestions or doodles in MS paint would be nice.

Details&wargear that should be added?

>>1317947
FUCK YES. That is perfect. Although it kinda looks like he's holding a toothbrush in the bottom right sketch. Former Orthodontistic Marine?

>>1317953

Indeed he is. It's a placeholder, I don't want to fag up this epicwin army.

>>1317947
Give him thin tapering talony gauntlets and a staff/standard thing with the emblem of the warp childe or whatever the hell it is.

>>1317963
I think he'd just wield a laspistol. He looks like an administrative planning sort of guy.

>>1317966
what IS the emblem of the warp childe?

And do you mean the powerfish to the bottom right, or the talony sword (yes, I thought it could be nice with a powerweapon in the shape of a multibladed sword, a la weeaboo rpg)?

>>1317980
A stylized infant holding a planet?

>>1317980

I just mean don't have his hands bear, have him wearing gauntlets that fingers taper off into thin talony blades, for aesthetics.

Symbol...I have no clue.

>>1317995
Oh oh oh! A burning star with a curled up fetus in the centre. Add creepiness for nightmare Eclipson

/tg/ I just want you to know I love you...oh so much

>>1317997
Oh I so like that

>>1317997


That's not something you can really statuette of, so I imagine the advisor guy's staff thing will either be a standard with that flag, or will just be a sagely looking staff thing with metal rings or something.

>>1318036
I guess it could work as a standard. Anyway, he isn't really an "advisor" he's sort of the public face of the cult by now.

>>1318075
His the active field commander.

here are my thoughts.

>>1318125
Actually, I like the hair the way it is. I don't think that we need a ton of spikes either. PH didn't need spikes

I've been watching you guys go at this for like 5 hours and it's still looking shitty.

I mean it. Scrap it and start over.

>>1318125

Forget the scythes, axes, claw-shaped swords, or ripper guns.

That man fights with his toothbrush.

>>1318195

And we shall call him...COMMANDER TOOTHBRUSH

been playing with it in painter for a while now. Completely forgot about the spiky bitz. I'll try with&without them, though they could be a little tricky to fit into the composition.

Yeah, I'm leaning against either powerclaw&bolter, or just badass laspistol.

>>1317873
sauce sauce sauce!

>>1318209
"badass laspistol"

Oh man.

>>1318214
His badassery will be based on him only wielding a laspistol and still surviving the nightmare.

>>1318243
I hate what you guys are posting.

>>1318243
That's what I suggested...and it's still cool. I bet he'd still have some sorcerous powers though. But he wouldn't show it a lot.

>>1318243
>>1318263

He fights with the toothbrush of chaos and that is final. His enemies fear is instant whitening wrath.

>>1318266
Shouldn't you be posting in a "stat me" thread somewhere?

>>1318266
not whitening...rustening!

>>1318209 badass laspistol

>>1318263
I thought he was just able to deliver a speach so epic, it'd make Sturnn cry.

>>1318209

Looks good, but I thought he was the one with his eyes removed, so he sees only the dream, and not the harsh reality?

>>1318274

Face the fresh, minty wrath of Chaos!

>>1318209
Drawfag from the first thread reporting in. Haven't bothered to read the new fluff updates, but made this alteration on a whim.

It's rough, but I can take the concept further if you'd like.

>>1318313
I don't think Scorpius had anything like that. He was just a traitor general.

OP / guy who has to model these evetualy.

Regarding all future drawings, I'd like them to be in the army coulour scheme: Black cloth + dark red armour. I want to use this scheme as hommage to the original LatD traitors (and because it matches my Word Bearers)

I hope this isn't asking too much. I love all of you guys for what you have given this army.

>>1317133
Personally, I like the old ps1 graphics even more than the new stuff. There's something... unsettling about the graininess and overall look.

>>1318322
Nah, Scorpius is just a regular looking guy...at least on the outside

>>1318345
Gotcha. Any particular requests for hideous otherworld-ish stuff? I've got a little time to kill.

>>1318322
I don't think he's silent hill-ified in the nightmare, but do go ahead if you want to, I don't mind.

>>1318334
No problem.

>>1318384
Vampire: The Heresy

>>1318348
How about the symbol of the Starchild cult? I think it's been agreed that it's a burning star with a fetus in the centre. Kind of like a standard

>>1318384
YOU STEAL MEN'S SOULS AND MAKE THEM YOUR SLAVES!
PERHAPS THE SAME COULD BE SAID OF ALL IMPERIALS

>>1318353

Then who was?

>>1318398
normal star or Chaos Star?
perhaps it should be a slight reference to the Silent Hill metatron seal

>>1318410
Scipius turned into Pyramid Head atleast.

>>1318398

>>1318447

>>1318426
Metatron's seal idea is brilliant! Go with it!

>>1318451
I suggest we lose the fetus and make a metatron-chaosstar

>>1318458
I had the fetus idea, and I agree. Metatron-Chaos star is better

>>1318458
do want ad infinitum

>>1318464
...that might take a while

>>1318464
Right-o, getting to work on a vectorized version of it (so, you know, you can print out banners, or whatever).

God the Eclipsion Terrorguard is going to give me nightmares for weeks, bravo /tg/, bravo

Here's a problem...what happens if ORKZ invade?

>>1318513
Terrorguard have the advantage, everything goes faster.

>>1318513
Well, with a psyker capable of making the whole planet turn into a nightmare where the rain is really blood, I'd say the orks will have a hard time... UNLEZ WE UZE DA SNEAKY BOYZ!

>>1318523
Do the rusty ones go quieter?

>>1318508
just wait untill the models are done.

>>1318495
you could alos make it more...
chaos-star-y

I think a cool picture would be an Eclipsionized Chaos Space Marine

>>1318551
I thought they were just normal Word Bearers?

>>1318557
*shrug* Some Space Marines might be attracted there or something. Who cares, it'll look neat

Here's some more fluff from me, something I thought up while bored at work.

Cleaning up the mutants was tiring, if simple, work. The fog had jammed his and his brothers sensors, and they had gotten seperated from their unit in the confusion that followed. For a while, it had been silent, until the foul mutants lept upon Ritus as if appearing from nowhere, without any warning or signal. They had clawed at him with great fury, and though they had no chance of penetrating Rictus' power armor wtih bare hands, he had howled in fear all the same. He had known Rictus since he had joined the chapter, and Brother Rictus had never shown fear, not against xenos, not against mutants, and certainly not against chaos, but the marine had screamed in a way he did not want to remember. By the time they had remember the last of the mutants, Rictus was dead, not from wounds or from magic, but from simple fear.

The suprise attack was the only chance the mutants had gotten since then, however. Though they proved seemly unkillable, chainswords had proved quite effective in rendering them a non-threat, and the five remaining space marines made slow work across the battlefield, hacking any enemy they found to pieces.

"Brothers, ahead." It was a slow rumble, a shake in the ground, that spoke of a larger presence. He vainly hoped it would prove to be more brothers, but from the dense fog rolled a monsterous creature, nearly nine feet in height. It was covered in bulbous muscles that made it seem almost comical, if not for the Space Marine helmet that was gripped in a single arm, blood smeared everywhere.

And CONT

>>1318581


They marines needed no signal, and they gave a short burst of fire from their bolters. They connected solidly, two in the chest and one in the leg, sending the creature reeling. It rose quickly, and what he saw next nearly sickened him. From one wound poured an impossible amount of dark, nearly black, blood, from the second, oozes of pus. The final wound, in the leg, spewed what he could only assume was vomit, before the bolter wound sprouted teeth and began to wail even as sickness sprouted from the hole. The creature began moving forward again, this time faster, and the marine began to see more shapes, misshapen, damaged, but as large as the first emerge from the fog as well. Ordering his men to open fire, he was dimly aware he now knew how Rictus had felt.

Hey, as long as we've got a scary babies thing going on, it seems like maybe Cherubim can fit in here someplace. This is coming from someone who has only read this thread and hasn't played any silent hill games, so this comment might be irrelevant.

>>1318603
Hmmm...there are the Grey Children from SH1

Scorpius Should play the normal Silent Hill "human". Confused, not really understanding what's going on around him, but dangerous, unstable, prone to comments that really make you wonder.

Make him sort of like Eddie from SH2 was, but more Imperial Commander and less chubby loser. A guy who seems alright, but he occasionally makes these comments that really make you wonder, and the longer he's around, the worse it gets...

Perhaps he'd even help fight the armies at first, claiming to be a survivor to any who arrive.

>>1318607
No way, Scorpius knows what is going on. He was the one who decided to betray the Imperium

>>1318606

It'd perhaps work in this setting as well. The childern are those that mocked him when he was young, for his power.

Honestly, the leader bears enough of a resemblence to the resident creepy girl from SH1 that one could pull some stronger references.

Hell, maybe he's deep down, trying to resist the Word Bearers in the only way he knows how

>>1318612
on the topic of Scorpius, should he have the Eclipsion Star burned/carved/tatooed on him somewhere?

>>1318617
the Starchild thinks the Word Bearer lord is like his second father. I doubt he'd resist.

1318606 here. I have a couple other questions.

Will Eldar psykers be more or less susceptible to the whole nightmare thing?

Will Tyranid warp shadows have any effect?

What about Necron Pariahs, or whatever those psyker-null douches are.

I'm not trying to punch holes in this, i promise. It's totally awesome, and i'm just curious how the whole two-realities thing holds up against the psychic extremes in 40k.

>>1318607
Scorpius is more like Dahlia Gillespie / Claudia Wolf / Walter Sullivan

>>1318627

Anyone who's strong enough would see past the reality, in my mind, see what they're really dealing with. A horde of not quite living but not quite dead guard who seek to slaughter anyone who would threaten the child. A powerful enough psyker could likely resist the fear based powers that the kid gives off, and perhaps eveny nullify his powers, killing the soliders for good, or at least for far longer than they would otherwise be out.

>>1318633

Yea, but I'm getting far more of a SH2 vibe from this whole army, so I personally wanted to avoid a "mastermind" per say. It sort of makes the thing far more powerful if there's no one who's really got an idea of what's going on, even the man who started the whole mess. It's just a giant dream/nightmare with a child at the middle, far too scared to end it and come back to reality.

>>1318627
Eldar Psykers will get fucked over by Eclipsion. To them, everything is like the very anus of Slaanesh had landed upon them.

Tyranid Warp Shaods probably do very little as they only cut psyker-based communication, while Eclipsion is a localised manifestation. Then again, Tyranids don't get scared so it's kinda useless.

Pariahs and other blanks are immune, or atleast very resistant, to the Nightmare forms of Eclipsion. To them shit isn't that creepy, but a huge mutant is still a huge mutant.

>>1318634
Keep in mind that even those who can see past the monsters and stuff would still have to deal with a freaking army to get to the Starchild

>>1318638
Eclipsion pyramid of power is:

Word Bearer lord controling the Starchild
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Starchild creating the Nightmare
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Scorpius acting as any general would // Scipius "leading" the mutants
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"Normal" traitors take orders from Scorpius // Monsters berserk around.

So Tyranids, Tau, and Necrons ould fear the least from this army? (Nids and crons feel no fear, and Tau are all blanks)

>>1318658
yep. but tau still have to deal with looking at fucked up mutants.

>>1318658
I suppose, but the Tau might still see the nightmare, since it's a localised event. The Starchild is affecting the surroundings, not just the Tau

Tau would likely shit their pants. They'd perhaps be immune to the actual fear the whole thing produces, but the rusting of everything, the normal guard becoming a bunch of mutants and monsters, and all the rest of it would be plenty for plain old normal fear.

>>1318678
This. Sad thing is that the whole planet might just get exterminatused ;_;

>>1318687

Isn't a psyker as powerful as he is capable of stopping something like that?

>>1318209

Give him a chain-whip.

>>1318692
most probably.
The ship crew might cet uncomfy when all the walls rust up and the torpedo tubes start bleeding.

On the structure of the Starchild temple.
Origialy built by the governor to house his post-alpha level psyker son in a sealed environment where his powers could not manifest cataclysmicaly, the temple-dome was like a null cell. After the Word Bearers located it, the architecture was reformed to act not as a psycic container, but as a web of psycic focuses. These holes in the null-shielding allowed the Starchild's power to be spread across the planet, and by manipulating the network of tunnels, his power could be targeted to certain areas without him even knowing.
As such, the temple also acts as a form of psycic orbital defence weapon, targetting the starchilds full power through a single conduit, the power is great enough to out-range orbital bombardments.

Then the only real hope of stopping them is hoping that Kharn goes there on his day off and shoves one of the participants of their many rituals

Bringing up point from last thread:

Eclipsion Starchild VS Little E

>>1318780
Little E: "Um, you can't put a cyclone missile launcher and an assault cannon on one Space Wolf Terminator any more, they fixed it."

Starchild: *face peels off and flaps around like a bat* "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Little E: "Uh, I like the blood effect painting, though."

Starchild: "THAT'S NOT BLO- well, actually, it is blood. But only because I ran out of Scab Red. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Little E: "..."

>>1318780
Lil' E wins.

>>1318802
This. this is awesome. Starchild would be like Little E's creepy friend.

>>1318844
their playful psycic duels would be mindblowing.

>>1318880
"oh yeah!? I bet I can lift that WHOLE office complex at least TWICE that high!"

>>1318809

I hate to do this, and revile myself as a fool, but who is little E?

>>1318942

Our reincarnation of the Emperor.

>>1318780
Little E is the reincarnation of the Emperor, he would win. But that's neither here nor there.

Am I the only person that thinks using Mordian Iron Guard for the guardsmen would be incredibly awesome? Regiments of men, all in full parade uniform, only bloody, tattered, and mutated...

>>1318942
Reincarnated Emperor as a kid living on a backwater planet and having fun.

>>1318961
i think the original hook was "bizarro silent hill cadia"
but that idea is epic aswell.

>>1318985
It'd be more expensive, no doubt. But the Cadians get dirty and grimy often, whereas the Mordians are expected to always be clean, prim, and proper. Strengthens the idea that they still think that they're the loyalists.

>>1319025
I think Cadian is better. The troops here are well past "keeping clean".

Hmm, we need to get all the fluff on units straight.

Guard Infantry - At first appearence, the soliders of the Eclipson guard appear no different from many guard units, clean, well organized men who will fight and die in the defense of their planet. However, they appear too be a bit too perfect at times, and often wear grins of pure euphoria, even as they blindly rush their foes. However, as soon as the sirens wail and the fog rolls in, this disguise comes apart. In truth, they are monsters, neither quite alive or quite dead soliders who bear their wounds of the chaos uprising. Most are mutilated, missing arms, legs, faces, and what remains is a bloody mix of rotting organ and replusive pus. Those few who retain the ability to speak will constantly shout their former warcries, plodding along towards the enemy in an unstoppable, and unkillable, wave.

"Human" Guard - Occasionally, one may see a guardsmen of Eclipsion who remains in their original form even after the appearence of the fog, or if discerning, before the fog appears. Unlike their dream-like comrads, these men are constantly in states of fear, panic, and hopelessness, wailing inhuman cries and refusing to fight. However, they will never leave their unit, no matter where it goes. For all their fear and revulsion, they somehow remain loyal to their fellows, and will never abandon them. These guard reflect the few souls who both survived the civil war and did not turn to chaos prior to the starchild, they have kept their humanity and sense of self, but are bound just as tightly to the starchild as their kin. Even worse, they have gained their immortality as well, and no matter how many times they die, they come back, same as before, trapped in a neverending hell.

>>1319081

Commissars - When the majority of the guardsmen turned to chaos, they turned upon their former commanders, tearing them to pieces in an orgy of violence. However, the men soon realized that they had made a grave mistake, and rebuilt them, hanging them upon giant crosses and towing them into battle. No more than stitched together and cruicified corpses, the guardsmen fear these scarecrows greatly, and haul them into battle, bearing their weight gladly. But dispite all of this, survivors have said that when oneof the guard would pause, even for a second, he would be ripped to shreds, dying the same way as the Commissars had. And those survivors swear that the dead Commissar's eyes would flash, punishing the coward with summery excutution...

>>1319088
Orgyns - What little speck of intelligence and humanity has left what the Orgyns have become, leaving them as mindless killing machines. Most stand well over nine feet tall and beat overly large, bulbous muscles that make up their entire body, giving them a overground, almost cancerous shape. They, like much of the rest of the Eclipson guard, plod along slowly towards their targets, but perhaps the most unnerving thing about them is how they bleed, impossible amounts of blood, pus and even vomit pouring from their wounds.

>>1319123
Are you deliberately misspelling Ogryn that way, and if so, for what reason?

>>1319081
>>1319088
The Nightmare - Eclipsions armies were not known for having large masses of Ogryns in their ranks, but the Terrorguard often are joined by hulking monsters twisted and wreaked in ways uncommon even for chaos. It is impossible to tell if these bloated and disfigured hulks were once human or ogryn, but one thing is for sure: they are the truest horrors of the Eclipsion Nightmare, beings that reflect the deep sins of the planet and its history.

The Daemons of Eclipsion - The Word Bearer rituals preformed on Eclipsion were disturbed affairs due to the presence of the Star Child. Such a psycic anomaly drew the daemons of the warp forward like a beacon in the dark, thousands of daemons pouring forward from rituals that could normaly summon but two or three. These daemons, lost without hosts and bottleneckes into realspace, either broke down into nothing or fused with eachother. The results were what could be described as Greater Daemons of Chaos Undivided. The daemons are bound to the powers of the Star Child, as well as the summoners, but they are a terrible force to witness: Greater Daemons housing the powers of all gods in a single form.

>>1319088
Totally need to repost that picture of the shadow-men with glowing eyes hauling a commissar behind them.

>>1319168
Wa Zarudo

Was an archive created for the original thread?

I archived both.

>>1319201
links, etc.

>>1319081
Can the human guards be killed by Commisars, and do guards that are killed by Commissars stay dead?

>>No more than stitched together and cruicified corpses, the guardsmen fear these scarecrows greatly, and haul them into battle, bearing their weight gladly.

Oh dear god, they brought a dangling modifier.

EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!

>>1319229
Yes and No
as long as the Starchild is alive, all the dead warp out post-battle.

>>1319165
What about Chaos Space Marines? I think there should be some. They could have their armour fused to them so that they can never take it off. Maybe shooting bolter rounds out of their hands?

>>1319243
The space marines of Eclipsion are Word Bearers. They are immune to the Nightmare and the Starchild is absolutely in their control.

>>1319182
Damn, I missed so much.

If I might add something about the Commissars execution methods, let's say an Eclipsion Guardsman runs and is torn apart- what if the Commissar has a laspistol and chainsword hanging from his 'arms' by chains, and at the exact moment the Guardsman decides to run, or even a few moments before, the chains and the attached weapons jangle, and after the deed is done, they start dripping blood.

Good? Bad? Y/N?

You fuckers, I was about to go to sleep when I asked myself if the Starchild could "invite" others to share in his dream. Then I got up and wrote this:

Trooper Jeran did not know what to do. He was sitting on a rock in the middle of that damnable mist, watching the shuffling figures that went by, out there where the mist thickened and nothing could be seen beyond. The last sounds of his comrades had faded away just a short while ago. The first one that had gotten separated from the rest had been old Talbek, who nobody had really liked, then Kend, Yefre, and the twin brothers Gelbek and Urskel who always smiled. Then Trooper Tyren had put the barrel of his lasgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. The rest of the squad had disappeared in what seemed like a blur in Jeran’s mind, before the sergeant had been disappeared while scouting ahead, leaving Jeran alone. He had just sat himself down on a rock then, giving up.

>>1319285
CONT

One of the dark figures in the mist turned towards him, the red glow it’s eyes piercing the mist. Then another of the figures turned, then many more. Trooper Jeren was surrounded by those Emperor damned red eyes on all sides. The mists cleared for a second, but from the hole came one of those strange crosses decorated with commissarial regalia, dragged by even more figures with glowing red eyes. Jeren started to cry.

The figures’ advance slowed, then halted completely, except from one of them who was much shorter than the rest. It was a little child dressed in a simple robe, face hidden under a dark cowl. Tucked safely away under one arm was a severed head.
“Why are you crying, mister?” the child asked in a concerned tone of voice that seemed to come from everywhere, but especially from him.
Jeran dried away his tears with a palm before answering.
“I- I don’t want die. Not now.” Heaving sobs wracked his body again.
“N- n- not so f- far from home.” The child put a reassuring hand on Jeren’s shoulder.
“And all my- my f- friends are dead too.”
“I have many friends, maybe some of them would like to your friends too?”
The Starchild took Jeren’s hand and started to lead him away through a crowd of guardsmen who smiled reassuringly to him.
“What did you and your friends do for fun?”
Jeren wiped his nose with the back of his hand. “A little regicide now and then.”
“Lets see if we can find someone you can play with then, mister.”

OP here, I need to sleep.
I hope this thing is up when I wake up, because I want those archive links for reference material.

>>1319286
“One minor event that really set the Eclipsion Incursion in quite a new and disturbing perspective for me happened when then-Interrogator Murkh and I were covertly investigating a enemy bunker that the enemy commander seemed to hold in high importance. We found nothing of value in the facility that would explain this importance. What we did find, however, puzzles me to this day. A guardsman sitting by a table with a regicide board, leading an animated, though one-sided, conversation with one of those gasmask-wearing things. The thing sat there, immobile, yet the trooper seemed to believe that the two of them were having a pleasant conversation about regicide. Next to the board there were a bottle of amasec and two glasses, one full and one nearly empty. Upon seeing us, the trooper rose, made a perfect salute and gave us his name, rank and platoon number. Then he turned to his ghastly companion and attempted to introduce him to us! And even as Murkh and I looked upon this, the glass that was filled nearly to the brim with amasec started to empty as if someone was drinking. Without moving the glass. At this point Murkh could not take it anymore and opened fire, with me following suit a moment after, riddling the strange pair with bolter holes.”

From “The Memoirs of Inquisitor Grodveyn”

~Fin~

>>1319286
I WANT TO GIVE IN TO THE DREAM!
I WANT TO SERVE THE STARCHILD OF ECLIPSION!
He is like the greatest thing Chaos can offer.

>>1319259
That sounds pretty cool to me.

>>1319297
God damnit.

A bit more art and we can write a full codex: Eclipsion.

>>1319286
Nice! On an unrelated note, I'm quite partial to this Chaos Commissar picture

"Damnit all!" the Sergeant wheezed under his breath as he and the regimental Commissar rushed their way through the rapidly changing city.

The patrol had been proceeding quietly and without a hitch, with no enemies in sight. Then that damned siren sounded. Now, even as they ran, the sky darkened into a deep scarlet, maroon, almost black hue, and arms made of shadows whipped around the two Guardsmen, attempting to grab them, trip them, rip them to bits of tattered flesh as they had to the rest of his patrol.

But these were stronger men. These were men of faith and valor, and they would survive until the nightmares subsided!

Then they heard another noise.

A hideous scraping noise.

A screeching, scratching, scraping noise.

First from one side. Then from another. Then behind.

The shadow arms were gone, and all the Commissar and Sergeant could hear, as they stood panting in the middle of the blood-drenched street, was another voice. Panting, wheezing, almost mockingly.

>>1319594

They turned around, and found a giant behind them. His uniform was a horrid travesty of the Imperial Guard's formal dress, sewn roughly from human skin. He head an eviscerator in one hand, letting the chainsaw drag against the ground loudly behind him as he slowly advanced down the road towards the two guardsmen.

They could only assume he was a human traitor, as his head was completely obscured by a space marine's helmet. A helmet that had had several layers upon layers of steel bolted and riveted on top. There were even sheets bolted to his shoulders and chest that held his helmet fixed in a single position.

The figure stopped. They stared at it. The sergeant raised his laspistol, loosing several dozens of sweltering heat into the enemy's body, but it paid the gaping wounds it had endured no heed.

Instead it began advancing once more. Slowly. Painfully. That horrid scraping noise once more assaulting their ears, the low wheezing and groaning rising in pitch to become horrendous shrieks.

The commissar's face blanched, his hair white within seconds, as with a loud moan he turned and ran down the alleys.

He reached the end of the road, only to find Scipius waiting for him, the head of the Sergeant held high.

Oh, and on the childern idea.

The Damned - The starchild did not have an easy life, and the few other childern he met hated and feared him. Perhaps his only channeling of anger is through what remains of them, a group known as the Damned. The Damned are child soliders, gray in color and fragile in appearence, but extremely large in number, charging enemy lines with a speed otherwise unknown to the forces of Eclipsion. They differ from the rest of the Terrorguard in one other vital way: they seem to actually die. Crashed against enemy fortifications again and again in pointless assaults, the Damned only exist to be brutally murdered, and those that fell them swear they hear the cheering and laughing of a child as they do so, urging them to greater violence. The exact number of such troops is unknown, as they often do not appear during battles, but when they do it's as a swarm of bodies, thrust into the worst of the fighting.

Oh man, we don't even have any pictures of Scipius! I think he could be dressed in Power Armour...made out of skin and barbed wire.
>>1319600
This is awesome

I wanted to write some fluff but I didn't feel confident enough, here's my ideas:
Orgyns are dragged into battle in cages to stop them from slaughtering the guardsmen.

Also, for Pyramid head Scipius. The helmet Pyramid head wears is designed as a torture device, also Pyramid head is a manifestation of (among other feelings) James' guilt over killing maria.

So I was going to have Pyramid head Scipius scream in pain and sob with guilt as he entered the battle, he now fights to protect the star-child because he feels guilty.

>>1319618
- Ogryns are with the rest of the damned guardsmen, they think they're fighting for the Emperor still, so they don't need much restraining

-Pyramid Head Scipio sounds great

>>1319618

We've replaced Orgyns with inhuman monsters. They fit better.

>>1319600

Also, forgot to say, mechanically these could be conscript squads that you just try and get killed, rushing the enemy with no heed of tactics or chance of victory.

Ok, for drawing I think we're needing:

Our PH.

The Damned Childern.

The new Ogryns, Nightmares.

Perhaps some of the dreamstate version of the guard.

>>1319285
>>1319286
Fucking awesome, I love the idea of the Starchild's dream serving as a twisted escape for the despairing and the forlorn

Now to compile all of this stuff. Anyone have links to the archived threads so I can get all the fluff organized and in one place?

Oh, and Scipius and Scorpius unit descriptions, latter being an HQ choice and former being a hero unit.

Scorpius - Perhaps the only normal human to survive the awakening of the starchild mostly unchanged, Scorpius stands as the instigator of the entire events, and now works as the Starchild's general in all major battles. Though in many cases his presence is unneeded, he turns the already horrifying and deadly force of Eclipsion into one tactically minded as well, making it nearly unstoppable. Scorpius is a driven man, and never leaves any survivors witness to his victories, and he has never lost a battle in the defense of the planet.

Scipius - Failure to defend the planet to the grips of chaos and suffering the teachery of his equal in the final moments, Scipius was driven to insanity long before the starchild changed his form. Now sword to protect the city, and planet, from any invaders, he wanders battlefields in his self inflicted torture, cutting swathes through any outsiders he encounters. The few that have escaped him have made him into a legendary monster, and the distinctive sound of his approach sends entire platoons into panic.

How's that sound for the two?

>>1317067
I'd play it in a DH game

>>1319766
I'm personally against the idea of Scorpius being the only one to remain 'human'. I liked the idea of there being a few guardsmen who managed to keep their humanity and human form.

>>1319876
Meant more in the sense that he's the only one who really kind of didn't get screwed by the starchild, at least not completly.

mark goldstein is the army leader of epiclions, k?

and we give gardsmen multy lazers!1

>>1320554

gb2/bed/ c.s.goto

Hmmm, what if the Eclipsion Starchild was a little girl? How would that work out? I wonder if it'd be more eerie that way.

>>1316306
Something is wrong with your Pyramid Head. There's no pyramid.

>>1320702

It's a butcher.

>>1320688

I'm not sure. I think I like it being a little boy better simply for the Emperor-analogy.

>>1320646
Such a wonderful author. Its great when people mention him.

This pleases me-ER HIM! This pleases HIM!...yes...

How bout some references for disfigured Terror Guardsmen?

can someone tell me the core fluff?

Are all the commissars scarecrows now? I remember reading some posts where just a few of the commissars were the first to fall, becoming creatures with thousands of eyes all around their body to watch for heresy, with a vox caster for a mouth.

I recon at least one fallen commissar would be pretty kickin rad.

someone rapidshit the fluff or something, all I see are some scraps of fluff

>>1320951
The rough story is that a hertic cult of the Imperium attempts to recreate the Emp's birth, creating a starchild, however, one that is severely distorted mentally. He's kept in a high secuirty anti-psyker vault, and constantly schooled and trained for the day he'll take over the Imperium. Then the planet of Eclipsion falls under siege from the Word Bearers, who convert one of the generals, Scorpius, to their side, bringing roughly half the guard with him. A bloody civil war breaks out, and both sides of guard, along with much of the population, dies in the resulting conflict. In the long days of the conflict, Scipirus, the other general, excutes the governer of the planet, who served as the starchild's father, before confronting Scorpius. At this time, the Word Bearers finally get ahold of the starchild themselves, and "The last thing anyone on the planet ever saw was a sky raining blood and faces screaming and crying from the walls."

Now, the world exists in the dream world of the starchild, who tried to restore the planet to what it was. What he got was turning the 95% of the population, especially the guard, into a sort of unliving monster that maintains a fragile facade of normal life, the few remaining living guard exist in a living nightmare as they find themselves surronded by these monsters and perversions of their comrads, but are as bound to the starchild as anyone else, Scipirus has become a broken, miserable monster due to his failure to protect the planet, and now wanders the city, slaughtering any outsiders, Scorpius, due to his chaotic connections most likely, managed to come out of the whole thing largely unscathed and leads the "armies" of the starchild when needed, and the starchild himself believes the false dream he's created completly, believing that he's restored everyone to life and that he must guard them from the "monsters" that come from outside.

>>1320997
Yea. The eye ones did sound badass, but it still feels too much like a traditional Commissar to really be chaos-y, in my mind. The scarecrows are so distorted and vague that one doesn't even know if it's the Commissar who's actually doing the deed, or even if it's due to deseration, it could be simple revenge.

>>1321034

Working on putting it into some sort of order.

Also, a another new unit choice

Inducted Guard Infantry

These are still living, breathing humans who have turned traitor against the imperium for the sake of the starchild's dream. Unlike the few living guard the remain of Eclipsions's forces, these guard do not see their comrads for the monsters they are, but as fellow soliders, so powerful is the dream's hold on their mind. They fight as normal guard do, usually in rolls that the monsters of the dream are incapable of providing, such as weapons teams, mechanized support, or fast attack options. Perhaps the strangest thing about these guard is that they are no more affected by the fog as the monsters they serve with, and seem to see right through it without problems, making them especially deadly in ranged combat.

A way out so that army isn't all slow moving melee, I think.

Plus, we should try and figure out a lot of the mechanics of this army, like how the fog affects the battle, their manner of dying and reviving, and other such methods. A bunch of optional rules if anyone was ever foolish enough to invade Eclipsion.

>>1321165
I'm thinking there should be quite a bit of tank support. Monsters probably don't drive them, but the CSM could, or they could just be possessed. We mustn't forget that the CSM of Eclipsion are unaffected and can still manage all the aspects of war the army needs.
On subject of the Eclipsion tanks, they are primarily old models, Malchadors and Baneblade variants, long held idly in the planets holding bays.
>>1320688
>>1320710
The starchild is male for two main reasons, for the better emeperor-analog and the fect that Alessa from Silent Hill was female, and we don't want to just copypaste everything.
>>1319688
I'd like archive links too

>>1321215 old pattern tanks only
I like this. Adds to both the abbandoned/forgotten feel AND to the unique-factor.

>>1321215
The tanks are empty, and have been so for many years. In fact, the planetary governor ceased funding for armor some time before the fall.

When the Starchild first saw them, however, he thought that the men inside preferred to stay in their tanks, so the tanks started to move as normal tanks would.

Sometimes, if you're part of the inducted Guardsmen and share the Starchild's dream, you can hear faint sounds of revelry inside the tanks when they're not moving.

Could someone link the archives please?
I'd like to read up on the original thread.

>>1321165

Just use necron WBB rules.

If any units die before the siren rings out (around 3 turns in) they stay on the map until the scenery changes. Then, while the fog's in place, you roll WBB rolls on anything that dies.

Units that die beforehand and are out of unit coherency will band together with the nearest models. If they don't have enough for a bare squad of guardsmen, they don't move or take any action until another squad takes the stragglers in.

When the fog's in play, night fighting rules are in effect.

>>1321303

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1312058/ is the thread you're looking for.

so maybe i missed this part but is anyone thinking about doing anything like the nurses in SH1 and 2

>>1321339

If they are made, I suggest them to be either reanimated or Dream-joined Sisters Of Battle that were sent to Eclipsion to deal with the heresy but were overwhelmed by the Terror Guard/WB forces. Maybe led by the Inquisitor that led them into the fight.

>>1321339
counts as medics?

>>1321344
I'm getting the kind of Inquisitor Kaufmann -vibe

>>1321344
I'd believe there have been more than one attempt at purging Eclipsion.
I'd also think anything short of a full assault from the Grey Knights would be well too little to come close to killing the Starchild.

>>1321405
someone wrote a nice fluffbit where the Starchild was eventualy cornered by Malleus Inquisitors and Eldar

>>1321344
I don't think the Sisters would be high on joinign the dream.
Same goes with space marines. The dream offers you friends and happiness. Not all your desires fulfilled.

I just wanted to say that these threads made me search up Silent Hill 1 on youtube and now that i'm done watching it, I feel very creeped out. Even more so by the Eclipsion folks.
500 posts of pure gold this is.

>>1321475

They probably wouldn't, voluntarily. But I'm making an analogue to Silent Hill here, the nightmare world preys on your insecurities and dark sides. Even though SoBs and Marines have a lot of conditioning, they're not perfect, and you have to remember there's Word Bearers there to brainwash them into Chaos worship as well. Not to mention Scorpius and his propaganda.

>>1321482 500 posts
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Holy shit it is 500 posts. I can't belive /tg/ could pull this off. And it STILL isn't quite ready yet!
Now beofre thsi goes to Autosage, I'd like to know what we still lack.
-Pictures
-full army organisation
-i think we should have fluff for the WB lord atleast.
-I'd atleast like to hear a bit more on Scipius and Scorpius.

So... are the REAL parents of the Starchild even known?
I think someone stated that the mother was atleast known, as she was present in the ritual, but dies from the psycic aftershock of the actual birth.

>>1321576
I thought the Governor was the father?

>>1321583

Yeah, the Governor was the father. The Starchild cult that created the kid wasn't tied to Chaos initially, it was all a plot to exalt the governing family and cause their offspring to rule all of the Imperium (I guess the rulers of the backwater system of Eclipsion suffered from inferiority complexes) but the psychic activity and plotting required to create the Child soon attracted the interest of the warp, and when a Word Bearer Dark Apostle saw the child in a vision he rallied an army and departed for Eclipsion.

>>1321535
The initial landing of Lord Apostatus was witnessed only by general Scorpius and his personal staff who were on their way to a remore training facilty on the unpopulated wastes of Eclipsion. Their trip was cut short when the sky split and down shot numerous flaming pods followed by large carriers. The general went to investigate, but he was ill prepared for what he found. From the pods came giant men clad in crimson armour decorated with silver and relics. He realised these were space marines. Holy men from the stories of his childhood. Demigods he had always regarded only as stories. From among the massive figures he could see one towering above all others. A massive robed form in the largest suit of armour he had ever seen.

Scorpius was quickly spotted by the Space Marine,s but as they approached, he insted came forward to greet them. The marines took Scorpius to their lord, and the two soon found understanding in eachother. It was revealed to Scorpius that the governor had turned agains the Imperium and sought to overthrow it. he was a heretic. Scorpius felt his holy duty to be killing this traitor and his allies, and soon he was busy rallying all men loyal to his word to fight the corruption. Apostatus offered him preachers and beings he called the "Holy manifestations of our faith". These strange and fierce creatures truly appeard to be not of human origin, and as such had to be the very holyest of the Emperor's creations.

Thus began the uprising that would spawn the Eclipsion Nightmare.

>>1321617
Ok I think we got all the fluff we need now. Or?
I guess its time for more picks and army composition?

>>1321654
the picks are like virtual coffee...
CAN'T SLEEP ECLIPSION WILL RAPE ME

>>1321680

>>1321705
get back... in line...

ATTENTION:
Thread is in Autosage, shall we make Thread #3 to finish this up?
Y/N

Seurgen Primaris was one of the very few "Resort Worlds". It was a place where the rich and noble families went to relax for a few months, years or generations. As each of these families had their own private armies, Imperial Guard presence on Seurgen was virtually non-existent.

Then one night, the usually serene night sky of Seurgen was fatally disturbed. A single-man escape craft streaked over the sky, crashing in a field close by one of the mansions that dotted the planet. Some young revellers that were attending a ball in the mansion went out to investigate. They soon returned, however, having found nothing at the crash site, save one haggard man.

>>1321724

The stranger begged the men and women that they shoot him, kill him quick. Please, before the mist comes. Everyone thought it was hilarious, and ordered the servants to find the man some new clothes, food and a drink. They were there to be entertained, and some silly mist was not to disturb that.

Even as they laughed, though, a thick fog was forming outside the windows of the estate. Seeing this, the stranger grabbed an ornamental lasgun from one of the older revellers. With a last shout of "save yourselves, fools! Before it is too late!", he put the gun to his head, and pulled the trigger.

At least, this is how the legend goes. All we know for sure is that Seurgen Primaris is lost to the Imperium, and that all that wanders the surface now is the daemonic forms of what once might have been human.

New thread HERE >>1321750