A lot. But don't worry, it could be worse, you could be playing the Imoen mod.

It only works for gnomes unless you WANT your Bhaalspawn to be an 8 year old girl.

>>4763427
>you could be playing the Imoen mod

I shudder'd

>>4763422

It's not a bad picture at-

>Imoen mod.

Pic related.

>>4763427
What's the Imoen mod?

>>4763427

Well, I'm not actually playing the mod anymore. I reinstalled BG2 and "forgot" to reapply the mod. I just stole the picture. Does that help my case any?

I'm sorry guys, what is the Imoen mod?

>>4763453

SPEAK NOT THAT NAME, YOU HAPLESS FOOL!

>>4763458
It's a mod that adds Imoen as a romance option, and it is very poorly written.

>>4763427
>Imoen mod

So... do you want your character to be cool or pretty?

>>4763471
Fuck year, Lockwood! Can do both things.

>>4763465

Writer tries to go Planescape: Torment style, results are....poor. Dialogue options are, from what I've been told, 1)Creepy incestuous shit or 2)Lol so random XD.

>>4763471

Sometimes I want pretty, sometimes I want cool, sometimes I want ugly or very mannish. Kind of like how I do male characters.

I like the Saerileth Mod a bit, but the "Ye OLDEN ENGLISH" is getting on my nerves.

Nobody in the world speaks like that but she feels the need to do so.

It's jarring at times.

Sometimes I wish someone could take this mod and make into a more 'reasonable character' mod.

I like the idea of a character that falls in love with you without so much fucking draggage, though.

Aerie was an emo drama queen that needs reassurance 24/7. The moment you go to give her your meat-stick? Better hold off, cause while she says she's ready, she aint.

Jaheira is a prissy, uptight lady that never really seems to fall in love with you at all. No tender loving words,it's all about HER needs, and HER feelings.And you better plow her hard like a man when she requests it, because it hurts your romance if you dont.

Viconia's one of the better written romances, as she actually ; you know, changes with time, and kinda grows more and more attached to you while still challenging your perceptions of romance.

I havent tried the Imoen romance, but I heard it's...
weird. I heard that it starts with you on top of her after saving her, and you start to feel 'funny'.

Anyone with first hadn experience care to say a few words?

>>4763482
>Anyone with first hadn experience care to say a few words?

>Imoen mod

>>4763482
>"ye OLDEN ENGLISH"

YEAHG, that shit made my eyes bleed! If they want to make her speak like that, they could have at least done more research into Middle or Early Modern English! Good, fucking, God.

But I agree, a romance option more like Viconia in BG2 would be swell, and we already have a bit of a base with Saerileth... now just ot make her not suck as hard.

>>4763490
Geez, first hand experience, then.

I'd like to know a bit more in depth info about the Imoen mod; it;s all. Telling me 'It's creepy" isnt very informative.

You know what I fucking despise? The speed runs for Infinity Engine games that use stack underflow bug to duplicate a million billion potions of FUCK YOU and the switch-maps-while-casting-dimension-door-from-the-million-scrolls-you-just-duped glitch to skip the entire game. Jesus. Can there be more boring shit to watch than that?

I wouldn't even mind if not for the fact that these kinds of shitty runs take the place of BETTER, MORE INTERESTING run s that actually beat the game's challenges in unnaturally clever ways. I've stored on my hard drive one 40 minute run of BG1 and one 30 minute run, both of which were actually clever and inventive. They were replaced at SDA by a 16 minute run that only uses the above two bugs to skip the fucking game, no skill involved whatsoever.

Fuck I wish I could break the fingers of whoever the fuck it is that thought that kind of shit makes for a good watching. There should be some kind of limits to what kind of abuse you can do. You don't get to use cheat codes, why the fuck can you use stack underflow bugs? Both of those are obviously not part of the game as it's intended to be played, actually the codes are more okay because they were coded in on purpose while the bugs were clearly programming accidents.

Fuck how I hate SDA.

What's wrong with this image? It fits with the others well enough, could make for a decent half-elf image for a female main character.

The image in the OP just strikes me as very... pedo-ish.

>>4763502
Imagine a very immature 12 year old trying to write a romance mod. It's a bit like that.

It's fetishy, immature and the dialogue is just really bad.

>>4763502
>fall on top of her
>incest
>read image name

>>4763511
It's a lovely image, but it certaintly doesnt convey the whole "I'm a cute and bubbly 15 Year Old."

I never understood why people thought it was a pedo romance, though. A- she's 15 and turns older in the game. B-Medieval Fantasy.In ancient medieval times, let's just say 15 was already considered 'marriage material'.

And finally, it;s not like she's a slut whore. I'm nearly done with the BG2 portion of the story, and she's been pretty chaste. No make out sessions or anything.

If anything, she's VERY reserved- even for a paladin. I was expecting a through love making session after I saved her from Bodhi's fate.

Seems like I'm not worthy of her "Ye Olden english" moans, yet.

>>4763511
>pedo-ish.
>4chan

luls

Seriously, though, you can get away with young characters in most DnD settings because they're based loosely around Medieval Europe, where a boy was a man at around 14 to 15 years of age and a girl was a woman at even younger.

So even if the social expectations of a "woman" staying at home for the entirety of her life is ignored, you still get girls at around 13 or 14 years old that can be just starting their adventuring career. It'd make more sense if she were around at least one more-experienced adventurer (same goes for guys, you fucking strawman-tossers), but it's still possible without being "pedo" ish.

...But you meant the romances. Right.

Yeah, that's creepy.

>>4763515
What, do you immediately ravage her personal budding space with lustful, hungry hands the moment you free her from the prison?

That's not just creepy, that's some bad writing indeed.

>>4763525

Oh, I thought we were discussing the images themselves as material for Main Character images, not as still pertaining to the character Saerileth.

In which case I still think the default portrait's still a better choice.

>>4763537
For MC character images, they are all good, specially the OP pic. And the OP pic certaintly looks like a beautiful warrior-type 'fair maiden' kind of character.

Some of the others look to 'unreal beauty' for me, though.

Maybe for a real high cha elf maiden.

>>4763525
>A- she's 15 and turns older in the game. B-Medieval Fantasy.

You get this simulationist-badge made out of pure 24-carat simulationist-gold. Huzzah! :)

So, which romances are there and which do you guys recommend? I liked Imoens' portrait but apparently it is really bad so... which one, /tg/?

not OP, btw.

>>4763530
>>4763525
Protip: the whole EVERYONE GOT MARRIED AT PUBERTY HURRR myth is just that: a myth. Only the nobility could afford to do that, and for them it was more a matter of cementing allegiances and whatnot.

A boy wasn't a man until he finished his apprenticeship, and THAT was basically whenever he could scrape together enough savings/favours to start his own business or cultivating his own land (or land that he was leasing). The common folk didn't usually get married until they were relatively self-sufficient.

Women were generally married to older men, but that's just because if I was 25 and I had just opened my own smithy and I had a choice between a 25 year-old woman in a pre-cosmetics bad-hygiene society and a fresh-faced 15 year old I'd be plowing that adolescent girl's cornpatch like it was early spring.

ANYONE IS BETTER THAN JAHEIRA.

SERIOUSLY.

FUCK.

ELVES.

>>4763572
Common folk weren't self-sufficient, they were serfs.

>>4763579
OH NO MY HUSBAND IS DEAD.
NO. NOOOOOOO.
HOW WILL I EVER GET OVER THIS LO...
QUICK, HERO, PUT YOUR DICK IN ME.

>>4763579
Jaheira's only half elf.

>>4763596

More like

OH NO MY HUSBAND IS DEAD
FUCK ALL OF YOU
I'M AN ELF, YOU ARE ALL RETARDED CHILDREN COMPARED TO ME
OH NO MY HUSBAND IS DEAD
I MUST RECITE A PRAYER
FUCK OFF YOU RETARDED CHILDREN
LET US GO, I'M SORRY
FUCK YOU
I'M SORRY
SO WHAT'S THE PLAN NOW OH FEARLESS LEADER
FUCK YOU
I'M SORRY
FUCK YOU
FUCK ME!

>>4763565
Viconia's romance is quite well written; but it can really be a challenge. She's a drow, a hot one at that, but she's still going through the whole 'domination' thing. She wants to challenge your badassery ; and will use her feminine wiles to get at you.

Saerileth romance is not bad, but the ye olden english might kill thine fun factor- otherwise it aint bad- just a little oddly written.

I heard that the Soulafein romance mod is quite well written as well.

>>4763595
I meant 'self-sufficient' in the 'no longer financially dependent on their parents' way.

>>4763602

Imagine how much of an insufferable cuntbungler she'd be if she were a FULL elf.

>>4763624
Sand from NWN2 was a full elf and he was awesome.

>>4763627
>full elf
>he
>NWN2

There's the answer right there

>>4763616
That's...really pretty much it. Add in some Harper bullshit, and presto change-O, you'll eventually bed a angry half elf.

I didnt like the fact that she got over Khalid so fucking fast, though. It was like she already was eyeing your ass before hand."Oh, Khalid's dead? fucking finally, time to tap some bhaalspawn dick"

I mean, I know she's a DRUID, but FUCK- the moment she began hitting on you- it was like what? A WEEK afterwards?You could begin it even FASTER by buying her a fucking necklace.

"My husband's been dead for 1 day"
"A Necklace!"
"Well, he wasnt /that/ good.:

>>4763636

It can be argued she's also realistically written.

(misogyny lol)

>>4763636
I believe Aerie calls her on this if you're romancing both of them.

>>4763642

On the original topic of portrait graphics, does anyone have any decent BG2 style portraits for young male characters?

Been thinking of doing an Inquisitor-kit late-teen/early 20s dude. Van helsing before the badass kind of deal.

I want to use this as a portrait for a BG2 character.

How horrible a person am I?

fuck you fatguts J is far hotter than moe elf and tsundere drow bitch

>>4763725
Erm... sure.

Magic the Gathering has tons of great art and as already mentioned Lockwood has some nice ones.

You can just upload your own... I had flare/cynder/ssthista as my side characters for the last one. All of which were small dragon models ;o

Here's one without the classic boob armor.

>>4763702

You're terrible.

>>4763688

Erm... I would say just google image search "young male fantasy character" but make sure safe search is off. You can also just look up BG2 portrait packs and choose what you like best out of them.

>>4763826

Lineage II orc females make me happy in my pants.

Appreciate the portrait bump, got any male characters?

It's a shame she won't survive.

But, then again, who does?

The Nalia romance wasn't half bad.

>>4763662
Solution: Dick in Aerie's mouth, continue conversation.

Saerileth mod is not bad, it's just insufferable. It also has compatability issues with other mods, but that may just be some other one of the dozens of mods I have installed.
You want a bad mod? try Valen.

>>4763662

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA!

Time out there, pal.

You're saying you could date more than one character at a time?!?!?!


Also, on a side note, what happens if you decide to sleep with Aerie when given the chance?

>>4764179
If you mod the game, yeah.

And if you jump in the sack with her asap she freaks out the next day and runs off. Forever.

The game doesn't support multiple simultaneous romances as such, but if you have multiple love interests in your party they will start bitchfights over you and you will be forced to pick a side, blocking off some romance option for good.

There is a mod that removes this behavior, allowing you to have multiple romances going on at the same time. It also removes the gender restrictions IIRC, so you could potentially have your entire party consist out of your love interests.

>It also removes the gender restrictions

Ugh. Who on earth would ever want to date Anomen?

>>4764223

Tell me more about this mod. Like, what happens?

Also, what's THAT convo like?
"Was it good for you?"
"I NEED TIME GO AWAY AWREKJEGLKBASCAS RUN AWAY!"
". . .what?"

BG2 THREAD YAY \o/

I'm starting a new playthrough with a character I just beat BG1 with, getting five out of six stats into a natural 19. I'm going with a dual-classed Kensai 9/Thief X, but I'm wondering what weapon proficiencies and styles to pick.

My first instinct is to go with three stars in two weapon style + two in short swords and two in scimitars, because the best "normal" backstabbing weapons are swords and scimitars, but I don't know how two weapon style is going to mesh with backstabbing.

I've been considering going with two handed style + quarterstaff for the Staff of the Ram plus the lulz of sneaking behind a dragon and hitting him with a stick so hard he explodes, but that has the problem that I would have to use Rynn's Staff for like 80% of the damn game and my character would only fully "activate" at 3,3 million XP.

Also: Can you have a speed factor lower than 0?

>>4764260
>"I NEED TIME GO AWAY AWREKJEGLKBASCAS RUN AWAY!"

Pretty much this. Delicate flower and all that shit. I much preferred her when she was just a utility spell battery.

>>4764275

Two handed swords, two handed style, epic level thief ability 'Use any item', wield that Paladin only sword.

>>4764296

You can't backstab with Carsomyr, not even with UAI. You can only ever backstab with weapons a Thief can use without multiclassing/UAI.

The only two handed weapon that can be backstabbed with is a quarterstaff, and it has the added bonus that because the devs thought only mages would touch staves, some of them have ridiculously high base damage. Staff of the Ram is something like 1d6+10+1d8+4, all of which gets multiplied by the backstab modifier.

>>4764064

Played it for a while, got annoyed with the poor writing, finally blew my top when Nalia referred to the major-domo as 'Domo' - as if that was his name, and 'Major' a military rank in front of it. NO. 'Major-domo' is a job title, you dumb fuck of a mod author. It means 'head of the house' and he's called that because he runs the place in your absence.

I'm still amazed there was nothing going on with Mazzy. I liked her a lot, and there's no love interest in this game for small folk. And how can you not fall in love with a tiny girl who can loose 40 arrows per minute or something insane like that?

>The only two handed weapon that can be backstabbed with is a quarterstaff

And ain't that a funny mental image.

I liked the Tashia mod. Kinda hard to romance her and I think I ran into a couple of bugs but she's a good-aligned sorc with nice stats so she more or less earns her place in the party. A fuckable artillery platform, basically.

>>4764239
It's honestly just not fair that Anomen is the only female love interest possible in the original game.

>>4764455
Most two-handed weapons are unwieldy for precision stabbing with any sort of power. Spears are more often than not too long to get the proper balance of precision and force that a backstab, fluff-wise, entails, while heavy swords and axes and such are built more for swinging than stabbing.

Quarterstaves are built to be held at two points far apart from each other on the shaft, so you can put your entire body weight into a strike with the end of a staff and still hit the part you were aiming for.

And really, who's going to suspect the robed guy with the staff to up and shove it through your spinal column the minute you turn your back?

I quite liked the Nalia romance mod.
I rather enjoyed the Romantic encounters mod, even though I have a sneaking suspicion most of them were written by middle adged/under adged women. Still, for every bland one there was a decent one and a few really good ones.

My favourite of the girls was Jaheria, the way it came across to me was that she'd always liked the PC but never really considered it when Khalid was alive. Now that he was dead she felt guilty for liking you, felt like she was betraying him...

Which was fucking obvious in how it was presented. It wasn't her QQing about him being dead, it was her being torn between guilt and lust/love/etc.

Jaheria's story is about moving on.
Aerie's story is about growing up.
Viconia's story is about letting go.

Still Aerie annoyed me so I typically just stuck with Viconia and Jaheria at the same time. Good times!

>>4764516

That said. The Imoen mod is fucking horrible:

1) It's written by someone with minimal writing skill. Promises a lot delivers very very little. Which is a shame 'cause Imoen could make an intriguing love interest but, god. So bad. And no-one's written a better one.

2) It has only one correct navigation path, it has all these "OMG SO RANDOM! XD" options that it encourages you to say but if you do the conversation goes to hell. And I'm talking about the most stupid out of place shit, like randomly interupting a conversation to go "ALALALA IT'S RAINING FROGS!" so nothing clever or witty.

3) It uses the whole "IRENICUS RAPED IMOEN!" plotline that always annoys me. I've always been of the viewpoint that he didn't, wouldn't and would have no interest in doing so. He was far more concerned with his mind, I guess for some people they can't think beyond the flesh though...

4) It wasn't even that he raped her. He got some fucking Duegar to rape her. "SO RANDOM XD!"

5) You have the option to rape her. When you're about to have sex/kiss/such instead of being all romantic you can try rape her. Except even though it puts her in a position where there's no way she could get away she gets saved by a Dues Ex Machina rendering the whole option pointless.

6) She won't talk to you if either you or her are low on HP. And she'll bug you about having too much money.

>>4764492

Another decently enjoyable mod. I didn't like her endings though, plus the Author really went a bit kind'a crazy with it.

Still my only real complaint is that I had no idea when I was actually sleeping with her. It implied that she's sleeping beside you then later on with no fanfare apparently we've been having sex.

Still fun enough mod, really showed me how OP Sorcerers are.

>>4764334
>Mazzy
Oh god, RIP Mazzy romance mod. QQ

Is there a mod that lets you be REALLY evil?

>>4764509

They got their revenge in KotOR when the female characters were the only ones that got to date Juhani and the only option for male ones was that uppity twat Batista.

>>4764588
>Batista
Oh yeah. I hated that uppity hispanic jedi.

>>4764334
>>4764547

I was under the impression that Mazzy wouldn't be up for anything after the whole "my boyfriend got turned into a twisted parody of himself and tried to kill me." The whole "my poor Patrick" line implicated he was significant to her, or that's how I took it at least.

>>4764588
Wait.
There's a Juhani romance arc?
I assumed it was still on the "Nobody's gay in Star Wars" thing.

>>4764602
Because that was such a big deal for Jaheira.

>>4764603
There sure is. Don't take the word of one dumb moderator for that of the entire company. Bioware has even done gay male relationships before. Sky from Jade Empire (not Star Wars, I know) would go with either men or women, I believe.

>>4764603

I don't think it's a "proper" romance with a conclusion, just some extra bit of dialogue just before the final fight accessible only if you're female and have been nice to her.

>>4764625
Wait, some moderator put that out there somewhere? It's just something I've noticed in my long exposure to Star Wars material; all breeders all the time.

And you're right about Sky - playing through Jade Empire right now, in fact. I just died! Also, Silk Fox is the same way.

>>4764643
It was posted on the Old Republic MMO board. People were asking after gay characters and some mod said "there's no such thing as homosexuality in Star Wars." Which caused an uproar.

>>4764629
It ends with the player character and juhani pretty much flat out admitting to being in love with each other. It's about as final as the bastila one, and a lot less annoying.

SHIT! I just deleted my BG1 map, and my saves are gone! Quick, tell me the BG1 save format, so I can recover my files. =_=

>>4764762
.gam and .SAV

>>4764771

Hoh, I got them. Thanks.. I almost dropped dead there, even though I'm only through Nashkel Mines.. Game can be hard as fuck without archers.

Am I a heretic if I just don't like the BG1? I played the 2 first and the first seems too... basic/unbalanced.

>>4764782
It sure can.

Now enjoy more enemies spawning every time you save or load. I'd really, really recommend converting to BG Tutu.

>>4764798
It's low level 2nd Edition D&D and is far, far nastier than BG2 on top of that. Ranged attacks are king.

Fuck, I can't stop looking at the pouty jailbait in OP pic. Posting to speed up autosage.

>>4764798

I wasn't a big fan of BG1.

It wasn't bad but it didn't have the depth or variety of 2. Plus it was FUCKING BRUTAL and the lack of easy accessible Res combined with HAHA INSTA KILL lightning bolt/fireball traps was bullshit.

Fuck BG2 I need to replay the 'dales with full dwarven parties.

Shit's gonna own

Ok give me your original dwarf names from a good DF playthrough and Ima make an icewind dale adventuring party out of em

>>4764814
My first time playing BG my party was pretty much pure melee.

To describe it as a grinding rape machine would, in my opinion, be letting it off much too lightly.

>>4764849
>>4764857
Let me see if I still have my own all-dwarf save from IWD2 about.

I don't. Fuck. But I demand that your party be led by Khalid Oakdick, Beardking of the Kingbeard dwarves.

>>4764857
All you need is Urist

>>4763422
Sorry, can I rewind here? This chick seriously looks stoned. Multiple speeds of stoned.

>>4765130
You're right. The picture practically screams "...wait, what?"

>>4765143
"I'm the son of Bhaal."
"wait... what?"
"Bhaal, the god of fucking murder, keep up bitch."
"I... khkhk, that is so funny..."
"...bitch, put that shit out, Irenicus is watching I want to look professional."

>>4765176
It is far, far too late for that, child.

>>4765176
>>4765192
I laughed far harder than I should have.

>>4765106

I wish I'd saved that rant that was posted the first time Khalid was introduced. All I rememer is that it was in all-caps and full of amazingly awesome Scottish-style cussing and something called the "Olden axe of evil swords". Also he hated humans because they were tall 'n shit.

>>4765200
sup/tg/ does not have such on archive. I am saddened.

Anyone ever try the Chloe npc mod? At least until after meeting one or two of the plot centric NPCs in the game? I've never gotten past the thieve's guild. She's just too over the top mary sue annoying to have around.

>>4765258
Good fucking god no. Shit no. No no no no. Saerileth is bad, but this is a whole other level. Let me search up her background.

>"Anomen's Bane"

>Chloe is a female kensai NPC. She is romanceable by human, elven, and half-elven females (although Imoen must be in the party for the romance to succeed). If the PC is male or not interested in a romance or Chloe is not interested in a romance with the PC and Imoen is in the party, she will romance Imoen. Yes, as you may be pleased or shocked to hear, Chloe is a lesbian romance mod!

>Chloe is found in the Air Pocket-Plane in Irenicus' Dungeon (and is not compatible with Dungeon-Be-Gone). She has a big added quest, special abilities, flirts and lovetalks. She banters with every Bioware NPC at least twice. Unlike the Bioware romances, Chloe does not push herself onto you, in absence of rejection. Chloe will only romance a PC that interests her, and the dialogue choice to increase her interest might not always be apparent. She is not guaranteed to remain with the player at the Tree of Life, and may decide that her life is more important than yours!

>>4765258
I would have given... not my soul, but definitely any one person I know's soul for an option to rape that bitch. Wouldn't have even enjoyed it, but god she needed to be taken down a peg.

>Chloe grew up near Neverwinter in a small orphanage. She claims to be the bastard offspring of Akadia, goddess of air and speed of movement, and a mortal man. Though she has no proof of her heritage, her supernatural speed and skill certainly give it some credibility. Chloe is driven by some inner urge to improve her skills constantly, spending hours a day practicing whenever she can. You wonder how she manages to fight so well when most would be fatigued from this constant practice, but she simply gives you a friendly smile and says it's simply due to daily practice and not to her divine heritage. She feels a certain kinship to you and Imoen, due to your similar divine parentage.

>With any PC there will be a friendly "getting to know you" stage. Most of these discussions will center on the past, divine heritage, and philosophy. Chloe is aggressive, strong-willed, and intelligent. She doesn't believe in good and evil except as excuses for behavior, and she's more than willing to argue those notions. Any fans of the show Andromeda will see influences of the Nietzcheans on her personality. Deep down she's a good person simply because she has no reason not to be and it suits her needs, but don't mistake her generosity for others as being altruistic. Some people won't like her, because of her strong personality and her willingness to make her opinions known, but she's not Jaheira. She won't try to assert her leadership over you. She's more than happy being an advisor, not interested in the leadership role herself. Some players will find themselves frustrated by her lack of strong moral standing and her seemingly conflicting stands on issues. For instance, she might advice the PC to leave Hendek to rot in his cage or even to slaughter him for Lehtinan in the Copper Coronet, but if and once the PC decides to free Hendek she will advise the player to continue the destruction of the slavers by going after the dry-docked slaver ship. The motivation being, if you go to the trouble of doing an action like this that will make enemies, it's best to go ahead and destroy those enemies before they have a chance to destroy you.

>Players may be frustrated by her advice at times, but it will be consistently motivated by survival and flourishment. In the end, you'll find Chloe to be very charismatic, and reasonably intelligent and an impressive front line fighter. You'll love her, or you'll hate her, but hopefully you'll find her interesting enough to keep around regardless.

>Chloe will join the group with her own scimitar and short sword that no one else can use. You can give her other weapons to use, but her own weapons will likely always be the best ones she can use at that point in the game. Her scimitar she received from her mother Akadia (Akadi) and gives various immunities and defensive spell effects. Her short sword she received from Lathandar (Lathander) and it is attuned with the fire element and has various offensive spell abilities. At two points throughout the game (that includes the future ToB portion of the mod) her weapons will be upgraded automatically (no quest needed). Beyond that, find out for yourself!

>>4765292

>>4765313
>>4765305
>>4765295
>>4765284
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>4765284
>>4765295
>>4765305
>>4765313
Jesus FUCK.

>>4765282
I hear that a goddess shows up to give her a pair of +6 katanas at some point. That and the whole "I'm a kensai, but from a special village where they make super kensai that are better then normal kensai, also my mom was a goddess and some other god gave me my magic swords because I'm so awesome. Also I have 25 dex because I'm a half-god."

>>4765320
>>4765318
chloesucksmind.

>>4765314
No, Hiss brah, I'm with the rapist on this one. I know, she's a ginger, but someone needs to take a hit for the team this time.

>>4765318
>>4765320
>>4765323

Now you see. Jailbait paladin was just slightly creepy and annoying. Chloe is full blown, undeniable Mary Fucking Sue territory.

>>4763422
Holy shit I JUST realized who this reminds me of! It's the blond chick form scrubs!

Chloe threatens to kill Mae'Var, the head of the shadow guild, when they meet. He gives her 3000 gold because he's so scared of her. You have no option to tell her to shut up, she takes control of the dialog. Note that YOU can't walk into the middle of the thieves guild and threaten him without being killed.

>>4765370

She also kills Anomen as soon as he initiates dialogue with you. In dialogue death, with extensive, graphic description with the smug satisfaction of the writer dripping from every word. Not that I care for the spoilt little brat of a noble, but fucking hell.

>>4765401
I smell self-inserted power fantasy

Why do everyone who release mods for RPG's fail so hard at writing? I mean, if you actually care enough to make a mod, why do you not give a shit about its storyline and dialogue?

>>4765415

in before david gaider

>>4765406
I smell some hambeast's rotten schlick fantasy.

>>4765406
>>4765431

Pretty much.

>>4765428

Who now?

>>4765401
I think I'd rather have a party of 5 Anomens and a Female PC than this mary-sue monstrosity

>>4765415
Same reason Fanfics mostly suck. Knowing how to write well, specially romance, is not something everybody knows how to do, even if they could write at all. (George Lucas is a great example)

>>4765401
Sorry, wait, why does she kill the jackass now?

>>4765449

>Who now?

I'm not sure if you're construing your lack of knowledge of who he is to mean he's another no-name self-inserter.

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,46665/

http://weidu.org/asc.html

in before carthrage

>>4765497
Because he's an annoying prick. Which is true, of course, but she instantly detects this before he's even said a word, slices his head off and suffers absolutely 0 repercussions for killing a cleric of Helm.

In other words: creator didn't like Anomen, so cold blooded murder is on the cards.

>>4765509
Ok, see, I got that he was a lantern jawed mook, but she literally just spits the guy for no reason the second they meet? Jesus Christ.

>>4765500
Never heard of him, I meant. Though I have heard of Ascension. Did you mean that he is a shitty mod maker? Last I heard Ascension was considered favourably by the community.

Does the place where the mods are stored have a comment section? What comments does the Chloe mod get?

>>4765533
"WOW GREAT MOD, 2COOL U GO GURL!"

>>4765539
*sigh*

>>4765521

nah, I mean he's a great modder and bg2 has good modders.

It's the ones that introduce new characters that are fail and bad. The ones that do past characters making reappearances or expand on current ones - almost always good.

>>4765533
It's hosted in numerous places. It's also been around for a while and has already been torn to shreds by many, many people. The creator responded predictably; butthurt to the extreme.

>>4765469
I started writing a huge analysis of what was wrong with chloe, but errased it when I came to one conclusion.

She's a mary sue because she steals the spotlight. Sure all the demigod/magicswords/25dex/customclass/dialog-overpowernpc thing is annoying. But even if all that was removed and she was turned into a 18 dex barbarian, she STILL would be a mary sue because she steals the spotlight from the main character whenever the player opens dialog with an important npc.

>>4765548
I remember somebody did some insane shit with Irenicus in ToB. Writing wasn't stellar, which is a shame. You can never have too much Jonny-I.

>>4765552
Fuck me, there's a whole forum for the shitheap mod over at Spellhold Studios.

http://www.shsforums.net/index.php?showforum=11

>>4765548
This is true, though I've heard some favourable words about the more moderate original NPCs. Can't remember names, but there's some spell slinging, romancable chick who is supposed to be fairly innocuous.

>>4765553
The whore! Edwin, prepare your devilry. Korgan, fetch me my infighting sword, it's time for a purge!

>>4765548

I also want to add that for new character addons, you can tell very easily which ones are worth a try:

the non-standard race+class combinations. like that one half-ooze character. It's the ones that scream 'THIS CLASS AND RACE WAS MADE FOR BISEXUAL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT ACTION!!!!!!!!' you have to watch out for

>re: bg1 vs. bg2

I've used tutu to great satisfaction, and wouldn't want to play bg1 any other way again, with the possible exception of GemRB, whenever it gets ready.

Anyone here tried the Baldur's Gate Trilogy or another all-in-one-game mod?

>>4765565
Talking of mods, word has it that there's an Edwin romance mod. Anyone tried it out?

>>4765533
http://www.shsforums.net/index.php?showtopic=7369
Discussion over the renal bloodscalp-chloe encounter.

>>4764516
Oh yeah, the Romantic Encounters mod. I loved that. I think my two favorites were the ones involving the one High Priestess in Amn, and the servant girl in Nalia's keep, if you're a fighter.

>>4765586
WOAH. What now?

>>4765580
How about an Edwina romance mod?

>>4765582
> there may be some history between her and renald that we know not. even if the dialogue did surprise me, it shows her strength of character and confidence in her abilities. and frankly it may be just that behavior that intimidates renald. but i should let lucy answer this.

That's one defense. Also, the creator is called LucyTheBeast. Pic related, it's her.

>>4765600

ha ha ha! who would want such...a...who would want...

>>4765586
>>4765599
Porn dialogue, essentially.

>>4765599
There's a mod that adds in about 20 or so encounters, depending on what sex you are, with new or current npcs. Some of them end up with sex, some of them are purely romance.

>>4765610
I am not prepared to comment.

>>4765582
"there may be some history between her and renald that we know not. even if the dialogue did surprise me, it shows her strength of character and confidence in her abilities. and frankly it may be just that behavior that intimidates renald. but i should let lucy answer this."

Haha, oh wow.

http://www.shsforums.net/index.php?showtopic=14622
Why Chloe is a custom kensai which does not follow the D&D rules. Short version: It's a reference to one of her favorite books.

>The concept of the Yr'kai kensai is based more on the Renshai tribe from the Mickey Zucker Reichert novels than it is on the D&D kensai class. I could have come up with a fancy name for her class, but the overall concept fit more closely with that of the kensai than it does any other D&D class so that's what I went with. In these novels, if you're unfamiliar with them (which are based on Norse mythology), the Renshai is a master of ALL swords, and is considered to be deadly in any room where a sword is present (because of their great skill in disarming an opponent and nearly instantaneously wielding that weapon.) However, Baldur's Gate's game system is based on 2nd edition D&D rules, and is therefore limiting the weapon choices. Were Chloe to be proficient in all swords, she'd be using far more proficiency slots than the system allows, not to mention she should technically have a higher rating than proficient. So I had to limit it to one or two weapon choices.
>In the Renshai novels, dual wielding weapons well is a rare and highly respected skill, and is ultimately what any of these warrior people aspire to. Chloe, being based on these people, is no different. She sees wielding two weapons simultaneously as the ultimate show of her skill, and the ultimate means of offense. And knowing her character as intimately as I do (since I created her), I know what weapons she would prefer. There is no better slashing weapon than a scimitar that is widely available to the people of the Forgotten Realms world. One could argue that certain exotic weapons would be better, but being forced to choose one or two weapons, Chloe would not pick an exotic weapon, because if she ever lost HER weapon or it was temporarily forced from her, she would want a weapon that she could get her hands on easily.

>>4765632
You know what fucking pisses me off? Renal Bloodscalp was fucking badass. I loved that motherfucker the first time I played through. 110% motherfucking professional. Having a character that awesome lose his lunch money to that orangutang dyke is just... just... FFFFFFFFFF

>>4765643

>There is no better slashing weapon than a scimitar that is widely available

in before /k/rage

>>4765643
Why would you master all swords, when the only one worth its weight in lead is the godfearing cruciform broadsword? Heathen.

What is this Saerileth mod you speak of?

>>4765674
It is inferior, ignore it. The Imoen mod, however... Go download that shit right away.

>>4765688
Listen to this man, he speaks the truth and has only your best interests at heart.

>>4765674
15 year old paladin girl companion mod. She would be ok if the voice acting wasn't so bad and the writing wasn't so "15 year old girl :)". It's not so bad when SHE talks, but it becomes obvious in the player's dialog choices.

It's an average rating player companion mod.

Game needed fewer theives or at least a few more pure fighter types and clerics.

>>4765655
Within the canon of the FR world, that is a correct statement. FR scimitars are the "proverbial" katana of that world and we all know that katanas can cut through slabs of solid steel and are the reason why the west never invaded Japan.

>>4765717
What? Don't be silly, the west did invade Japan. They were driven off by the disciplined samurai and their katanas of doom.

FR scimitars are the "proverbial" katana of that world and we all know that katanas can cut through slabs of solid steel and are the reason why the west never invaded THE UNDERDARK.

Everyone knows that the samurai can channel his ki into his blade for awesome destructive potential that can kill at the slightest touch.

>>4765743
No, it was the divine wind that destroyed all the westerner ships and left the invasion force stranded that truly doomed them.

>>4765709
So basically it's what happens when fanfiction writers start making mods? God this sounds hideous.

>>4765758
Cowardly steel armor and shields are no defense!

>>4765688
>>4765696

You are both bad, bad men.

>>4765775
They must suffer as I suffered.

>>4763502
Duergar gang-rape of Imoen, the option to basically beat the shit out of her during dialogue options, raped until catatonic at Spellhold... really, it's a big rape simulator.

>>4765768

ONCE YOU HAVE HONED YOURSELF INTO A WARRIOR SOUL READY FOR DEATH AND FOLLOW THE HONORABLE CODE OF BUSHIDO THAT SHINES WITH THE WISDOM OF HEAVEN, ALL THE LESSER NATIONS WILL TREMBLE AT YOUR COMING

That’s it. I’m sick of all this “Masterwork Bastard Sword” bullshit that’s going on in the d20 system right now. Scimitars deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I’m talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine Scimitars in the Underdark for 2,400,000 GP (that’s about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my Scimitar.

Drow smiths spend years working on a single Scimitar and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to drowkind.

Scimitars are thrice as sharp as surface swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a Scimitar can cut through better. I’m pretty sure a Scimitar could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why the surface dwellers never bothered conquering the Underdark? That’s right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Dominatrixes and their Scimitars of destruction. Even in the time of troubles, surface soldiers targeted the drow with the Scimitars first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Scimitars are simply the best sword that the Forgotten Realms has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Scimitars:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)

1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)

2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Scimitars in real life, don’t you think?

>>4765808

Which is why Nippon is now the world's lead exporter of under-aged rape-comics, amirite?

>>4765786
YOU SHALL SUFFER, YOU SHALL ALL SUFFER!

Right?

>Imoen

I always suspected that belt she always had to be a girle of gender bender.

I was dissapoint

>>4766006
Boring Mode Engaged: It's an item that prevents her from dying in the starting dungeon. If she gets low on HP she spacks out and runs off. You then find her on the surface for the whole "I cast magic missl-wait, what do you mean I'm arrested?"

>>4766025

I had my hopes up, having skipped bg1 the first time around, though.

And yes, the belt's real function is boring..

>>4765800
Can you think of a better person for it to happen to? I don't think I've ever met someone who liked Imoen. Aerie and various others get their small niche crowds but everyone hates Imoen.

>>4763627
Best hireling

>>4763422
I like the Saerileth mod for Oblivion.

>>4766095

Wut?