>>5848416
SO GRIMDARK

I CONQUERED EUROPE FOR WHORES AND ALE!

Post your immediate family!

I really love this game. I really do.

It's just... I can't handle the weird real time thing, the armies, research, the length of time it takes to do anything, and the lack of options to play as my personal favorite wank fetish as the moors of Iberia-

But damn it, it's a fine game, and the closest I'll ever come to a Romance of the Three Kingdoms 10 set in the West.

So, uh, how many schizophrenics in your family?

>>5848451
I am reckless and vengeful. The most common disease in my family is depression but my previous marshal became schizophrenic. We are not alone!

What game is this?

I must know.

>>5848570

Crusader Kings.

>>5848584
Good?

>This is my sine... I will save you all, whether you like it or not!

This is my cosine...to kill you!
This is my tangent...to take your spot!

>>5848565
Marrying schizophrenics and spawning hunchbacks was the name of my game.

Also, playing as der Emperor? Is this the middle of the game, or did you start out as him?

>>5848592
I enjoyed it.

>>5848608
>This is my cosine

It's not. :|

>>5848624
I started out as Germany already. Adalbert is my second king. I was fucking scared that a poorly done succession would have thrown Europe(as I AM pretty much Europe already) into a sea of shit. Thankfully things went more or less smoothly. So far I've managed to stay the fuck away from that hell known as Jerusalem.

>>5848678
What's going on in Jerusalem?

Also, booo playing kings! I always love playing as vassals and counts, and working my way up, or just, playing through my family's fortunes.

Though maybe that's why I always find gameplay so slow...

I haven't played this game, only Victoria and HOI. But I love playing as smaller countries and doing shit that makes the situation completely different than history.

Better yet is taking something like Texas in 1836 in Victoria, and keeping it independent. Set's all kinds of things in motion that alters history.

Crusader Kings only stars in Europe/Asia Eastern world? Anything start in the Americas?

>>5848695
Jerusalem is currently at the hands of the filthy saracens, but my ally, England, is taking care of that and I am just giving off financial support through gifts.

In one of my earlier games, I played as the Duke of Flanders, roughly during the one hundred year war. I betrayed the french and became England's vassal, helping them to easily conquer France. With his support I though that taking Jerusalem would be a breeze, huge mistake on my part!

Well, TAKING it was easy, maintaining it was fucking hard. Bubonic and pneumonic plagues screwed up with me. Revolts and heresy all over my middle eastern provinces! Meanwhile James, my liege, decided that he wanted to conquer North Africa and you know of the huge blow on prestige that happens when you do so. His whole kingdom became a mess, when betrayer french dukes allied to Scotland. WHile all that happened on my side, the mongols conquered half of the world. It was a lost game.

>>5848765
That sounds like an AWESOME game to work to rebuild from!

>>5848793
Yeah man. It does. I can't wait to play.

"Oh no, my French/German/English kingdom has lost all of it's European holdings. Now I'm stuck in Africa. TIME TO TAKE OVER AFRICA!"

What is this game? It looks pretty fucking cool.

>>5848815
>>5848584

>>5848793
I had funner ones.

I was playing as the King of Castille, and I was mostly focusing in diplomacy why conquering minor muslin provinces. I tried everything to get Léon to ally with me(we were of similar power and together we could retake the Iberian Peninsula, just like in real History). But the little fag would decline all my offers.

Suddenly Léon decides to start a private crusade. I thought, "well, nice, if he won't ally to me, I will wait until he overstretch his dominion and then invade him, usurping the title of King of Léon.

Well, apparently my christian friend took awful strategic decisions and attacked one of the strongest sheikdoms around... Needless to say ,he was getting his ass kicked and some lesser sheikdoms jumped in the conflict, tried to conquer all they cloud, like hyenas.

Unexpectedly, Aragon, who had just conquered Navarra, started attacking Léon as well. I was like "what the fuck" and decided that I had to make some moves to establish a new equilibrium in the region.

But I didn't want to risk my armies just yet... So I financially backed Aragon and prayed that they would take Léon's lost territories back to christian rule. Oh god, what mess it became... Léon decided to fight to the last man. I swear they took, lost and retook Asturias like six times.

To makes things worse, my Briton allies decided to conquer Compostella, that was in the hands of what would become Portugal, further weakening the christian kingdoms(me being the only exception). I had to do something so I sent assassins and successfully killed the Sheik of Granada, stirring up a civil war within the muslin states.

>>5848815
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_Kings_(video_game)

>>5848807
Wow, you lost ALL of Europe to the Mongols? Damn.

>>5848831
Still, the emirate of Sevilla was growing too strong now by shallowing some of Granada's vassals. I had no more choices, i would have to dive deep into that pool of shit...

I took what was left of Léon and directed my attention to Sevilla. the battles were huge, relatively speaking, involving more than 15,000 soldiers but we eventually reached white peace. Meanwhile, Granada miraculously regained it' strength and was quickly matching me in power. I couldn't let that happen so I redirected my weary armies there.

In the end, I acquired a lot of muslin provinces and it looked like I would finally grasp some stability again. But Granada wouldn't give up no matter what. When a minor Sheikdom declared war on one of my recently conquered provinces, all went to shit once more. 5 of my muslin provinces declared independence and became vassals of Granada.

With that we reached a stalemate and I offered white peace. It was a huge loss for me because now Granada and Sevilla are potentially stronger than me and I can't do anything about it.

All my efforts were ruined thanks to the ambition of Léon... But it was dam fun.

Also, the Brits never lent me a single man. ****ing England.

>>5848831

Once I get this game downloaded, I'm gonna start playing.

Where/who should I start as?

I remember playing victoria as the Confederacy. I took over all all of North America, South America, Europe, Japan, China, and England. Then a rebel took over my capital, and the Confederate States of America became the United States of the Ku Klux Klan.

So I took over africa.

This all really happened.

What the fuck is with Paradox and their complete inability to draw portraits??

>>5848869
Start anywhere near pagan or muslin states. Waging war against them costs no prestige and does not require you to claim a title.

>>5848885
So, Africa?

>>5848940
Yeah, I think Ethiopia is Christian if you want to play as them? Just don't get swamped.

>>5848871
Awesome. Though, one time, I played as Prussia and managed to make a liberal left wing socialist Germany that proceeded to win the first world war, driving France into becoming a fascist state.

>>5848940
Nah. Iberian Peninsula, northern Germany, northern scandinavia or Byzantine empire.

On my current game of Victoria, I started as Texas. I had to cheat at the start, of course, to keep it independent of Mexico and the US.

But once things started rolling, things began to go well.

Things remained pretty status quo in the Americas. I didn't pay much attention to the rest of the world, but eventually Prussia took over Denmark.

Anyway, soon the US and Mexico went to war. Mexico concentrated all of it's soldiers in the Californian area, which the US quickly circled and started closing in on. Now, with all of Mexico's soldiers surrounded by the US, the majority of their land was open for the taking. I made a bee line for Los Angeles. Set up a nice border between me and the States, and then started moving down, taking over a completely defenseless Mexico.

Once the Confederates rebelled, they somehow allied with the UK, which drew them into war against the US.

The US took over Canada completely and made satellites of Quebec and Canada, which isn't the entire Canada, only a small area in the East. At the same time, Colombia declared independence, making Vancouver Island way over off the coast of Washington and BC it's own little country.

Shit is wild.

>>5848871
Wait, you can't do that in Hearts of Iron 2.. so, which game was it?

alt history = win

If only we can use Moors......................

Muslim Europe v.s the Buddhist Mongols!

>>5849029
Victoria
>>5849037
Fuck yes it is. I love the larger countries splitting into smaller regions, or countries that never even were. It's so new and exciting.

Facist California Republic motherfuckers.

>>5849048
Medieval 2, Total War, despite lack of fluffy events and detailed family system and better representation of alt history in general, had that. My Moors managed to sweep France, while the Timurids boiled North, then swept East. We met in the deserts of Cyrenecia and in the forests of Germany-

Once. Then the game ended because fucking Medieval 2 ends way too damn fast.

>>5849029
Victoria: An Empire Under the Sun. There's more than Hearts of Iron from Paradox.

>>5849037
Indeed.

>>5849010
That's pretty freaking awesome. God damn, Paradox makes such good/bad games.

>>5849029

Victoria.

>>5849086
>Medieval 2

Not good enuff.
I need a EK! (Emir Kalifs)

THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT ALT HISTORIES WE HAVE CREATED IN OUR GAMES

>>5849122
Jihadi Sultans?

I think there might be a mod for playing muslims, but it's half broken.

>>5849124
For Medieval Total War I and II

I always play as the Byzantines. I just love it. We would be so much better off if they had stayed together, but thats not the point.

So I liked to rape and pillage Italy, assassinate popes, cause mischief untold, you know the drill.
Then I decided to keep only enough troops back home in Anatolia that would be sufficient for keeping the stinky rag-heads out and then going whole-hog into Europe and make Rome come alive again.
Would usually work, but then the Mongols would do their thing and it was always a 50/50 then based on how many times we engaged in the field or in sieges.

In HOI2 I started as the US and collapsed it immediately on purpose. Once the confederates were around I switched to them.

Took over the entire Eastern third of the country for the Confederacy. Had a massive industrial capacity.

California had the west. Texas took over the midwest up the Canada and east to Chicago/Michigan. The US looked like a three colored flag.

Texas had shitloads of oil, so they did pretty fucking awesome, but never expanded outside of the territory they got from the old US.

California was facist to the extreme, and made inroads into northern Mexico, but they were stopped before long and didn't get much territory.

I allied with the UK before WW2 broke out, got some good navy tech, and then ended the alliance before Poland was taken over.

After a while I took Greenland and Iceland from Germany control, and got a few Scandinavian territories, but my European dreams didn't get any further than that.

>>5849124
EU3. Granada pushes back the Spanish, unites Iberia, and colonizes the New World.

Strangely, this caused the Venetians to flip out and conquer Russia. So, there's a cosmopolitan Caliphate in the new world as Venetian banker hordes start marching out of the steppes heading for Europe.

>>5849198
Conquered Russia?

>>5849184

Spain, Crusaders, and Timurids are where its at.

>>5849212
I don't fucking know how. Over the course of a century, Venice gets into a shitfest with the Turks, push them out of Eastern Europe, and break a peace with the Ottoman Empire having a piece of Greece, but mostly being on the other side of the Black Sea's strait. Then, the Rus fucked with Venice, and Venice hit back, hard.

Two centuries later, I glance over as my war with England was coming to a favorable end to see Venice squatting on a vast amount of territory. Something must have gone wrong. Or my room mate was hacking my save files while I wasn't looking? But anyway, Venice is just sitting there with a whole lot of bad boy, probably about to start marching on the Lithuanian blob.

>>5849249
Holy shit.

>>5849189
I'm thinking of getting into HOI2, but After I installed it (I have the pack with all the expansions) It looked even more daunting than Victoria. Is there a good resource for learning the ins and outs of it?

>>5849811
Haha, Paradox games' learning curve is fucking insane. But once you get into it...

There is nothing I love more than getting a huge army of the most elite soldiers I can muster, a ton of transports, and the most badass warships I can build. I then procede to sail around the world to attack the most random nation I can think of. One who I have had absolutely no diplomatic contact with at all.

There is nothing funnier than conquering all of Austrialia with Confederate Shock troopers wearing gasmasks, launching poison gas shells from their artillery while Ironclads at sea lend fire support.

>>5849811
HoI2 ends too fast, in my opinion. EU is where it's at (haven't played 3 yet). Like >>5849198, I as the Ottomans conquered the New World, leaving Europe to its devices. Spain tool over Western Europe, only to face Russia head-on over what was left of Austria. Instead of expanding into Europe, I decided to leave those two well the fuck alone, and moved to India and Asia. India Went well, Asia... not so much, but I did manage to Muslimize Japan.

Damn it you guys, you're making me want to play Paradox games stuff again... And I suck at all those games damn it!

>>5849962
>>5849962
Yeah, HOI2 is pretty short, even with Armageddon and CORE expanding. So I got into Victoria, but it's pretty limited.

So right now I'm downloading Crusader Kings, hoping to give that a whorl.

Maybe EU after I play Crusader's a bit.

MORE ALT HISTORY!

Which paradox game is best? Only have played Rome Total War and need a new alt history fix

>>5850169
CK -> EU -> Victoria -> HOI

And you can brought your country.

>>5850169
Well that depends on what you want. However, if you're still in the mood for Rome, I'd go with that Rome Universalis game that Paradox made.

Otherwise, Victoria for maximum fuckwithability, Hearts of Iron for best combat model, Europa Universalis for probably the easiest game to get into, and Crusader Kings for "MY KID GOT ANOTHER BITCH PREGNANT THAT STUPID FUCKER WILL NEVER BE A GOOD BISHOP" moments.

>>5850169
EU3 has more depth than HOI, with more economics and such. HOI has more detailed land and sea combat.

>>5850187
Brought?

I'm seeing a distinct lack in alt history going on here.

I started as the Zulu in Victoria and ended up with some larger South African holdings, but I didn't have the resources to gain colonies, and I couldn't beat the British war machine, so it was a meager existence. Not much of a change in the grande scheme.

Ck does a great job emulating the medieval world.

Oh yeah, as Texas I had some Oklahoma territory I'd swindled from the US. Set up the Cherokee nation as a satellite, but those fucking Americans conquered it fast.

Who here hates the video at the start of Paradox games and deletes it from all the games directories?

>>5850202
Crusader Kings events are fucking hilarious.

"A petty wrench claims to have sired your child!"

Stress leads a character to schizophrenia. "We are not alone!"

A peasant rebellion cause the food supply to the said province to cease. "That's great news!"

Hmmm... An alt history for me?

Well, I decided to play Persia in Victoria, with the aim of avenging 300 by taking Sparta.

This ended badly to say the least, as Russia decided to beat the piss out of me while I was barreling through Turkey on my way to Greece. in the end, I was (marginally) successful- Greece was under my iron heel, but rebellion was claiming a full quarter of my provinces.

Oh, and the British Empire collapsed in India as well for some reason.

Any way I can acquire this without torrenting?

>>5850342
Same. I dunno how to unblock Listen Port that says is blocked, even though I made sure it wasn't.

>>5850342
You can buy the games legit and give Paradox (A very tiny company that will really notice lost revenue) a bit of money from gamersgate.com

Although don't feel bad if you want to pirate the little 10 dollar expansion packs, they are usually nothing more than trumped up updates that the game usually needs.

>>5850342
Just search for Rapidshares. It will take longer, but it's generally more secure than torrents. Could be faster too if you can't port properly or if there are no seeders.

>>5850365
Or you could just buy the entire thing in one go.

Those guys deserve the money.

Lets see where can i start...

On a game in Armageddon (Boosterpack for HoI2) i was playing as prussia with a plan to unite all of central Europe under the Prussian eagle, this worked out quite well, Allied with Empire of russia, then me and russia pretty much RIP AND TEAR all over europe, they take a lot of eastern states while i take over Bourbon, European Soviets, Roma and Denmark from the Swedes

then a few years down the track Russias all "Hey dawg, i heard you are planning an invasion to USNA, so were gonna invade you"

the war between the Prussian Empire vs Empire of russia lasted a bloody Twenty years, a long mobile war, with some years one side would just keep going and going, when suddenly it stopped and the other would push forward again and again and again...

Millions of Prussians gladly gave their lives for the Kaiser and the Fatherland, Never Forget

>>5850397
I downloaded it, loved it, bought it. EU3 and HOI2 are cheap anyways, HOI3 is new but still buggy.

>>5850416
I don't like the bare Armageddon mod. Too few countries with too much power.

It's so boring.

One thing I love about Victoria is starting a big nation, then create satellites, save, and play as the satellite.

State of New York, hooo!

I've got an awesome Europa Univeralis III game going on right now:

In the first, I unified Italy starting as Naples. I then proceded to try to reunify the Roman Empire. I've got Italy, Greece, Switzerland, the southern half of france, and all of North Africa. I'm slowly chipping away at the Ottomans with the help of my greatest ally, the Hungarian Empire. Or they were my greatest ally until the broke our alliance, got into three wars, and dissolved into petty states. Our new best friend is Great Britain, with whom we've been beating France to a pulp every 20 years or so. Funny bits: England, Italy, and Hungary are all Calvinist, and the capital of Portugal is Manhattan. Russia never evolved, and is mostly a bunch of muslim successors of the Golden Horde.

All this and it's only the 1640s.

>>5850441
its actually meant to be a MP scenario with countries with equal everything (IC,TC, resources etc)

>>5850472
Fuck yes man.

>>5850485
Sure, if MP stands for BORING

>>5850416

How the hell did Russia survivve that long? In all of my games, Russia gets so goddamend pwn'd by the Kossacks and Swedes, it's not even funny.

>>5850502
ive seen some pretty interesting games with Arma

USNA vs Confederacy Start of game till end of game, by USNA finally surrendering

Australasia Vs PRC 8 year war, with almost all the fighting taking place in Indonesia ends in a white peace :(

>>5850441
Mod34 is spiffy, CORE is spiffy as well.

>>5850520
I gave em techs and resources and led divisions

However they did suffer a lot of rebels, which they ruthlessly put down

>>5850480
I remember starting a game as the Teutonic knights, and ending with nearly all of the world under Imperial German rule. I had so much badboy I basically declared war on the world.

I won.

In my latest EU3 game, I played as Burgundy. We beat France badly in the Hundred Year's War, and now control eastern france, most of Germany, the Netherlands, and Northern Italy. England is so catholic half the popes come from canterbury. Burgundy is the only surviving Calvinist state, so stability loss free wars with everyone! I also love the dichotomy of having a despotic monarchy with maxed out free subjects.

>>5850553
There's an AAR somewhere documenting one guy's game where he Conquered nearly the entire world as the Iroquois. He only fell short due to time constraints. He was on the one hundred and somethingth war of Iroquois aggression and had badboy off the charts. The best part is that one province nations would declare war on him due to high badboy.

EU3 game. STarted as the Americans the day afetr they won the war, changed the goverment to a monarchy of some kind. King Cyrus I waged war in Burma and Thailand, comming from the west.

But I was such a badboy that my allies, the french, declared war on me.

Not fucking funny.

>OP
What did you mod to make all your vassals not kill you or did you just use byzantine cheat?

>>5850597
One time I had just barely gotten beyond badboy max, in such a low amount that it was gone in two months. During that time, three tiny Indian kingdoms sent me warnings not to go to war. I was playing as a european nation.

Anyone playing a vanilla EU is playing an easy modo. Just saying.

>>5850761
People still do that? When is MMP2 coming out, anyway?

>>5850841
Oct i think

Any particular mods I should dl for Crusader Kings?

>>5850944
There was one mod that let you play as a muslim but I don't think that works anymore...

>>5850962
I think it also let you play as merchant republics.

>>5850899
>>5850841
http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=403

I once played Czech republic in HoI2.I the end war in europe was over in 1942, and Germany was no more. Western third of it was under french control, middle third (including Berlin) and austria was mine and poland got eastern third. and some other bits.

A word of warning for those playing Crusader Kings and/or its expansion: Treat it as an RPG, not a strategy/conquest game. You are role-playing as a dynasty or series of rulers. With that in mind you'll have a lot of fun. If you approach it as just a strategy game with some RPG stuff in the background then you'll have no fun and a lot of frustration.

I strongly suggest playing in character too. It's a lot of fun. I also enjoy aiding obscure relatives or favourite "pet" families that may or may not be noble.

Don't use the mods that let you play as Republics or other computer-only sides. They lack the proper limits and penalties and it ends up boring and too easy.

>>5852306
Do they let you play mongols? Because that would get super super boring.

There's an LP of a guy playing as Texas in Victoria here:http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Victoria/
He ended up as the Texan Empire.

>>5852345

I believe there was one. It did make it far too simple.

In one Europa Universalis game, I played as France and made the most retarded decisions possible. By the end of the 15th century France was no longer a nation, so I played as the strongest of the successor states. Brittany went on to found a huge colonial empire, while gaining almost no European territories to speak of. France was refounded by some asshole in Toulouse.

God damnit.

I downloaded Crusader Kings, made the .cue file, and mounted that shit. When I install it, it gets to 1% then fucks up because data2.cab is either missing or fucked up or something.

I see this shit all over the internet, but I can't find anything that says where I should download a different file or version.

Fuck this is infuriating.

Let's see. I do remember one fairly epic Victoria game, where the so-called "Great Game" between my British Empire and the computer's Russian Empire escalated into an eventual alternative Great War, involving most of the world's major powers. After years of trench warfare in the Caucasus and the Ukraininan Steppes, the Russian government finally collapsed, leaving me with miles of Russian territory I never wanted in the first place, and as a northern neighbor, a newly formed Soviet Union entertaining hopes of eventual payback. We never got to have a rematch before the game ended, but I did spend the remainder of the game setting up various buffer states and selling them whatever useless territory was left over.

>>5852714

Try buying it then, faggot.

>>5854739

The tension build-up can be great with these things. I always enjoy seeing a Pyrrhic victory happen.

I remember one of my early times playing victoria as Japan. So the westernisation came eventually and then shit hits the fan. I can't remember how but somehow socialists, communists and anarchist decided to fuck up the country with constant revolts and by 1890 or so it happened. Japan became the world's first socialist country.

>>5857543

Japan is a great choice to start with as a nation. Also for experiments. It can go many different paths. The communist/fascist route tends to happen if you make a bungle of some key moments or push things too fast.

Britain is another common choice. It is so massive and powerful that even if you make a mess of it you will still be a significant power.

Any good mods for CKs?

>>5859700

There was a Song of Ice & Fire mod.

It was very buggy.

>>5859737
Did it have a twincest option?

>>5859762

Dunno. I was to busy conquering the Trident and marrying my little sisters to Petyr Baelish and Oberyn Martell.

Played Victoria, only to convert into HoI2. California and Texas are independant, Germany is Market Liberal and Russia is a Paternal Autocrat.

California is a Paternal Autocrat, but I pretend it to be a fascist Republic.

>>5859762
Yes, but it was buggy. When you clicked it, you had a consensual sex in a missionary position with your lawful spouse.

>>5859700

Any links?

Jesus christ, this thread is still alive?

The game is all blurry for me.

The map doesn't look right, the portraits don't fit the cases, etc.

Every time I play CK as Scotland, the game will always end up crashing after a century (keeps crashing when I reload recent saves). I'd heard some rumors that some countries were less stable than others in this regard. Anybody else heard of this?

>>5860103

Have you got the latest patches? Check their forum for the latest update. I've heard the same thing happening with various countries. The patches solve a lot of problems. I've played for a long time as Scotland and it a lot of people have played through as it.

>>5859925

Sounds like you've buggered it up, mate.

Why is this thread still alive

>>5861101

Because CK and Vicky are fantastic games with great RP'ing or strategy potential.

>>5861245
Goes without saying, but the thread is 24 hours old.

Any games like this but Sci-Fi?

>>5861375

I think there was, or at least a mod for EU or something.

>>5861264
So?
>>5861375
Would love such a game.
The Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is a bit like that, but not quite. Excellent game though it is.

Try Shrapnel games for some similarly good games.

I'd suggest trying Dominions 2 or 3. Fantastic game and it has had great support from the developers and the modders. There are Warhammer Fantasy mods for it, so you can have Skaven wiping out the Empire.

>>5861436
yeah, AC is too Civ like, not what I'm looking for, which means GalCivII is out as well. Good games both though, yes.

>>5861462

There are sci-fi maps and mods for that, I think. It is also pretty easy to make maps and mods too.

Space Empires?

>>5861375
It's a bit hard to make one. Present sci-fi visions see impacts that don't translate well to the sort of traditional geography map based games that HOI and co. are.

anyone got a good torrent for vicky and revolutions? Shit can't be found in stores.

>>5861930

Yes it can. You can buy it easily online too.

Fuck, I love these games.

My personal favorite games are usually the ones with the byzantines going on a rampage, conquering my way to India or along the Mediterranean.
But currently I've got a game going in EU3 in which I'm playing as Granada and by now (1680) I have conquered France, the whole of Iberia and Italy and about half of Germany. Next on the list are Germany and Hungary to finally dissolve the fucking HRE and then I'm going to subjugate those pesky Poles and Scandinavians.

For HoI or Victoria I usually prefer China. Especially in Victoria once you civilize them you can start the UBER_industrialisation making all Europeans seem like poor shitholes compared to your lvl 30+ fully staffed factory cities
Shit is SO CASH

dalbert von Franken of Germany 09/13/09(Sun)19:00 No.5848416

it's the fucking 15th here.

never change tg, never change

>>5862704

level 30?!

JESUS CHRIST

>>5862915
I suppose I'm not the only one who strives to become christian first and foremost in EU3?

I loved the old paradox games (HoI3 was a delusion so far).

In CK, one of the most awesome alt histories i created in a game was starting with Frederick the II king of southern Italy, not getting him killed or executed, then allying with sicily, conquering dalmatia, northern italy, crimea, then greece, cyprus, and saxony.

Crimea was one hell to hold.

>>5863015
HoI3 will be worthy in 3 months plus mods

>>5863140
But still not worth paying for.

>>5863201
>>5863140
>>5863015

Is HOI3 really that bad? I liked HOI2 and their other games.

>>5863994

Hearts of Iron2: Doomsday with the Armageddon addon is the bets sofar. Hearts of Iron 3 was so horribly coded, it's a shitstain in the company's record.

>>5863015
here

this thread is still alive?

>>5863015
Fuck not that post

>>5850416
THIS ONE

>>5862915
Yeah, while playing as china you've got such a shitload of possible workers that you can upgrade all you want, that really rocks. You also get infinite cash if you don't raise taxes but instead use tariffs to get your cash.

@HoI 3: So far Hearts of Iron 3 is a huge bugfest, but they are working on fixing these bugs, once they finish that it can really be an awesome game. I heard they had a really crappy beta where out of 400 persons they hired only 20 signed up once or twice and out of these only 3 or 4 actually reported bugs.

/tg/.

i've downloaded the trials, and if i like these games, i'm gonna hate you for making me spend money.

>>5866838
OUCH. Now I pity Paradox.

>>5869192
Money well spent

Holy fuck this thread is still here.

MORE ALT HISTORY!

>>5869675
Prussian mobile war fag here, i got a few stories here, heres a short one

During this massive war with russia, i had managed to slice off a few divisons from the front line in eastern Europe to be sent to the Atlantic ocean to stop the USNA and its expansion to the Only island group there which was Owned by Bourbon

for over a year two divs one mine the other USNA would constantly invade, be pushed off, reinvade over and over again untill i finally gave up and let them have it

Pic related, a worthless waste of lives over a few islands deserves the highest honors for those who lost their lives obeying the Kaiser

Playing Victoria. Started as the US. Did some deals with the UK to buy the rest of the Northwest US territories they had. Made them states. Then made it into the Columbia satellite.

Started playing as Columbia. Hard at first. Really hard. Not really any attacks. Mexico was going to be trouble so I started influencing them some. When war broke out between them and the US I asked for a white peace and they accepted.

Soon I converted some Capitalists and started making some real cash. Eventually got some tech researched, traded it and some cash for Vancouver Island/Victoria, off the coast of Seattle. They added a huge pop boost which I quickly converted to soldiers.

Raised a little army. When the civil war broke out, DoW on the US, snatched some land, asked for a white peace. Since I had a lot of their Canadian border and West coast (well, not a lot, but some), they agreed and Columbia was now a free state.

Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca.

>Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca.

>>5869803
Hahaha, yeah I know. But being in the northwest, it's mostly farmers and laborers, who are mostly conservative. The capitalist though, are very very liberal, and so they vote, liberal parties win, and the populace slowly begins to liberalize.

Once the majority are liberal it will go to full suffrage. It's not really free, but meh.

>>5869842
Some free is better the no free

>Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca.

>>5869803
>>5869852
Newfags don't know about my classical liberalism.

>Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca. 

>>5869854
Your?

It's my country.

>Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca.  

In Victoria, how soon is the Manhattan Commune possible to make as the US?

I've tried creating it back at the earliest start point, but it isn't possible at that point.

>>5869897
No idea bro, i think that event is time tied though

>>5869925
>>5869897
I think only from the Civil War. It was supposed to be around revolts about the draft and trading with the south and all that.

HoI2, playing a USA that managed to become highly technologically advanced. In my little fantasy of this world, it's not too dissimilar to the USA in the Fallout games.

Basically, it's January 1945 and World War 3 has become a horrible and long drawn-out mess between the three major world powers: The Allies, The Soviet Union and the Empire of Japan.

The Allies consist of the USA, United Kingdom, France and...The Deutsches Kaiserreich, The German Empire, ruled by Wilhelm III, a puppet of the UK, formed from the ashes of Germany after World War 2. The Allies are making slow but steady progress against the Russian hordes, being massively outnumbered. American advance forces of M26 Pershing tanks recently captured the irradiated ruins of Moscow, while most of the front line that stretches from the Black Sea to the American held sections of Russia is held by the rest of the Allied Forces and is a giant stalemate.

America is nuclear capable. Tokyo, Moscow, Leningrad, Shanghai and Kiev are no more than ruins. Kiev has the honour of being the first city to be destroyed by a nuclear weapon mounted on an ICBM.

Field too long derp

>>5870020

The Pacific is under American control, for now, after a massive naval battle near the Marshall Islands that proved a turning point in the Pacific War. The American and Japanese navies were both crippled in the engagement, with the Hornet, Essex, Enterprise and Wasp all being lost in the engagement, and five Japanese carriers being taken with them. The American Navy is now focusing on a policy of swarms of light carriers instead of large vulnerable carriers after the disaster in the Marshalls.

The British are holding out in a small section of India and retaining most of Burma after losing their Raj to the Japanese. They have recently captured a province of the Kingdom of Siam, a Japanese Ally. There is still some hope for them.

The Soviet Union has captured massive swathes of Northern China from Japan. It remains unclear how this war may yet turn out.

IN THE GRIM ALTERNATIVE PAST OF 1945, THERE IS ONLY WAR.

>>5870020

And i posted the wrong picture. Here's the World Map.

lol, history.

>>5870024

Oh, and even in an alternate reality where Italy isn't allied or hostile to anyone, and thus has no distractions, they still suck. Check their little empire in Abyssinia. See those two grey provinces?

Useless Mussolini.

Playing Poland in HoI2. In 1936 annexed Hungary and Czechoslovakia in a bid to fuck Germany over in 1939. Italy declared war on me, Germany on Italy. It's August 19 1938, Poland and Romania are part of the Axis. France attacked Germany, Soviets - me. Only feeble forces of Yugoslavia, which attacked Italy for some fucking reason, stand between Mussolinni and my defenceless south. Nazis are slowly losing ground. I annexed Lithuania, Latva and Estonnia and gained a bit of ground in Russia. If I don't end up the war with Russia soon it will all go to hell. Thankfully I don't think Hitler will stab me in the back, seeing that he's got his hands full with Allies.

>>5870059

Not pictured is the fact that I also colonized some of Australia/Indonesia. Spain colonized most of it, and also moved their capital into Perth for some reason.

War ensued, and now I control most of Oceania. Feels good man.

>>5870070

Plus, rather amusingly, the Siege of Leningrad is being played out backwards. An outnumbered German force, valiantly holding against the Russians.

A German force. In the blasted radioactive ruins of Leningrad.

Sounds rather like Death Korps of Krieg...

I fucking love Alt History.

>>5870810
Me too. I also love grand strategy games. Its my ambition in life to play something like this eventually.

>>5870059
>>5870039

I like what I'm seeing here!

Currently I'm playing a HoI2 game as the Republic of China. After the dirty Japanese were driven out of China thy turned towards Communism and allied the USSR and while my superior hordes of poorly trained infantry where conquering the Third Reich in the name of the allies the US fucked up and pulled another Civil War this time Commies vs. Democrats. Commies won and now are allied to the USSR and the Japanese. within the next months WW3 is going to start and a giant shitstorm will ensue.
The game is heavily modded though to be more challenging.

Say, fine gentlemen, does this game have problems with Vista?

He beat Germany in 84 days.

>>5871335

What game is this?

Oh good, a Paradox game thread, just what I wanted.

I recently bought HoI2, and the learning curve is rather steep. Any tips on how to start out?

>>5871335
what kind of an abomination is that?

>>5872101
Be Germany.

They're big but wiht no Colonies to worry about.

YOu can focus on land war and rape the rest of Europe.

Due to early game fuckups you wil still probably lose in 45.

FUCKING YES!

I just got Crusader Kings installed properly.

Soon enough I'll be uniting the world under a single banner.

Fuck yes ALT HISTORY/GRAND STRATEGY!

I've been working on an alt history for the past few months.

When Jesus died on the cross, his followers got scared and decided to GTFO and move to Africa. Thus, Christianity never got a foothold in Europe. Since there was no Roman Civil War in 320, Constantine stays in the West, and East rome falls to the Sassanid (persian) Empire in the 380s. King Arthur is instead General Arturius of Dumnonia, The Balkans band together into a Thracian League (later empire of Thracia) which quickly becomes an economic superpower, and Rome loses its African colonies to the Sassanids. Oh, and the Viking Age starts 80 years early.

Map depicts the world as of 700 AD, shortly before the Viking raids begin. Red is the Roman Empire (still polytheist), green is Persia (Zoroastrian), the yellow country in Africa is Axum (the only christian kingdom), and blue is Thracia. In asia most countries haven't been affected by the changes significantly: purple is China, orange is Tibet, and magenta is the Gokturk Khaganate. I reused some colors for smaller countries but it shouldn't be too confusing.

whut? this thred is still alive?

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK YEAH!

Okay, so I start a new game of Victoria as Japan. Slowly build me industry. Nothing too major seeing as it's Japan.

Eventually the Netherlands would like to meet with me. I agree, and soon become a satellite of theirs. This brings with it and ENORMOUS boost to technology.

So now with this knowledge, I build my nation at an even faster rate. Midland Island is mine. I trade some claims with China and I get Okinawa. Gobbling up a good number of Pacific islands.

SOMEHOW, Texas becomes a dominion of the UK. This seriously fucks up the US.

The Mexican American war goes horribly for them. Mexico takes the entire west coast and moves east. Once the CSA arrives, Mexico pushes East more and takes the entire country up to Lake Michigan. Currently the CSA is still kicking it in the south, and the US is surviving in the Northeast.

The UK's inroads into India/Asia has netted them Afghanistan.

Eventually I declared war on Netherlands for freedom. I hit Amsterdam with 100,000 troops and quickly took over several of their home territories. I held them for close to 2 years, declining the Netherland's peace offers.

Eventually though, the attrition damage was getting to me, so when they offered a lot of Indonesian islands, I took the deal.

I'm sitting pretty as the 10th most powerful nation, but I'm still uncivilized, as I CAN NOT FUCKING INCREASE MY MILITARY RATING! GOD DAMN IT!

Jesus Christ we're almost up to 40 hours. This is incredible.

>>5872466

The funny part is there was an orthodox christian kingdom in Africa - Makuria. But they got ganked by Fatamid Egypt.

>>5872581
Uh, I believe you mean 44 HOURS. GOD DAMN GOD DAMN.

>>5872594

And Axum was historically christian. That's what I based it on. The Axumites are currently supporting the Arabs, who were recently conquered by the Persians and feel they are being oppressed. Axum is also sending pirates to fuck with the persians' indian trades. This has the effect of giving Thracia a better position in trade, which is part of the reason why it turned from a collection of buffer states to a huge economic empire in the space of 50 years

From one of my earlier Victoria games as Sweden (later Scandinavia) I recall the late game essentially boiling down to decade-long trench warfare against the combined armies of Imperial Germany and Russia. Hopelessly outnumbered, we'd just stack as many troops as we could in heavily fortified chokepoints (preferably single provinces) and decimate the enemy with shore bombardment from our superior dreadnought navy whenever they tried assaulting. Then they'd sue for white peace eventually, and we'd go back to selling them telephones, cars, airplanes and furniture until they decide to declare war again.

God damn Crusader Kings. I have no idea who to start as.

Who should I choose?

>>5872938
Come on, any suggestion.

>>5872993
take the smallest, lamest country and see how big you can make it

>>5873002
That doesn't help. I need names.

>>5872938
Assuming a 1066 start I quite like the duchy of Gwynedd in Wales. Becoming king of Wales is easy but expanding from there proves to be more of a challenge as you've got the supremely powerful England to the east and although Ireland's split up, most of the duchies there are about as powerful as a united Wales.

My favourite hard modo goes to the county of Salerno in 1066. About the only way to succeed is to marry into Apulia's bloodline and murder a tonne of male infants or overcome the superior (and soon to be part of Byzantium) county of Napoli to create a duke title for yourself.

Good times.

>>5873018

Navarra

>>5873029

My favourite run with Salerno was when I ignored everything nearby and sent my army on a crusade all the way across Europe to Prussia. 1000 dudes managed to carve out three provinces before deserting/dysentery consumed them. I used the shit holes up north to springboard a campaign against Lithuania and was crowned king after 23 years of toil.
Shit rocks ruling a mighty pagan army from a pissant little county south of Rome.

>>5848416
>09/13/09(Sun)19:00

>>5873070
>09/15/09(Tue)15:38

>>5873094
It's not summer any more. Good threads last.

Damn, I've always wanted to buy one of these games, but I can never seem to find them and they seem super hard.
Not that I mind hard games of course, but I feel the difficulty might just throw me off the game completely. Like Dwarf Fortress, I know it's a great game, but the super steep learning curve just made me quit after my third play.

>>5873204
For DF, follow the wiki or other tutorials exactly as they say until you know what you're doing. These games are a lot easier than DF. If you can't find them for sale, torrent them.

>>5873180
I was going to make a post bitching about the reposted thread and then discovered that it had never died in the first place.

>>5873283
I'm a moralfag so I'll just order it in from Amazon or something.
And fuck DF. Fuck it in the ass.

>>5873312
Speaking of which, which game should I buy?

SON OF A FUCK!

OK

So I've spent the last few days trying to find a copy of Crusader Kings online.

I downloaded one. TRIED TO INSTALL BUT IT WAS FUCKED.

It looked like all the others were the same, but then I found another one! FUCK YEAH! I installed it. IT INSTALLED! I started it. IT WORKED! Now, it was just Deus Vult, which I heard was playable by itself, so I didn't worry too much. It worked. But it had monstrous errors. Fuck!

I download the official patch from Paradox for DV. STILL ALL FUCKING FUCKED!

WHAT THE FUCK!

THIS GAME WONT FUCKING WORK!

>>5873204
You can buy them at gamersgate.com I'd recommend starting with HoI2 as from my experience its the easiest to learn of all of their games (Victoria really takes time to learn and Crusader King turns into a hell of micromanaging at some point) After the first one the learning courve is not as steep.

>>5872101
Definitely play Germany. Spend the first two years expanding your industry and then start building tanks and infantry (mobile if possible) and a decent airforce consisting of tactical bombers and close air support. Then go and rape Europe.
Or start as the USA and spend four years expanding your industry and then begin producing a huge fleet of Carriers destroyers and light Cruisers. Then rape Japan. Watch while Germany (hopefully) pillages and loots the USSR and land in France with a shitload of tanks planes and infantry and start freeing the shit out of them

I must admit that the games paradox makes are all among my all-time favourites I have literally spent countless hours playing them and still I am not tired of it.

>>5873479
Yeah unfortunately Deus Vult still has quite a few ctds and shit. Are you using the english language setting? I heard that part of the sources for ctds were coming from messed up translation for the german or french version.

I love Paradox Games. Pic is 1936 in a Megacampaign as Swabia > Germany starting in 1066. Highlights include the fact that the Reconquista failed and all of Iberia is Muslim. As a result, everything in the new world save the American Federation (British), Vinland (Scandinavian), and Gustavia (Scandinavian) was colonized by Muslims. Another highlight is the Union of Rome, which came into being when the Byzantine Empire fell to Communist Revolution in the late 1800s. The Byzantine crown has moved to its colonies in India now.

>>5873862
Isn't that the Mega Lets Play from Wiz over at the Something Awful forums? I read that and like it a lot!

>>5873880

Yup. Best LP/AAR I've ever read.

>>5873887
This'll be one of the ones I'll need to pay 10 bux to read?
(Damn, haven't seen that one since 06 in /b/ I think.)

>>5873918
You only need to register on some days. I have read the whole thing and never registered there. Just try it again at some point later.

>>5873918

You don't need to pay 10bux to read Something Awful, just to make an account. The thread is right here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2787274
If the beginning bores you, skip to Victoria. That's when Wiz's modding talent really comes to fruition.

In a recent game as Wales, I pulled off the biggest dick move of all time. My ruler's daughter happened to the cousin of my rival, England's, ruler's heir. So I married her off to him when he turned 16. Two generations later, I had nothing but inbred retards to stop me from conquering Great Britain.

>>5873987

Oh god, that's fucking beautiful.

Excellent example of longterm planning.

>>5873987

That's cold.

This thread is fucking beautiful.

Making History: Decided to show the game to friends at school, played reckless american imperialism.

Took Cuba and Mexico for the lulz, Nationalist Spain declared war on me. Invaded Spain, gave it back to the Republic, kept spanish morocco, left some troops there to keep an eye on europe.

The Japanese didn't even get off their boats in China I was already there discovering that the game doesn't support 3-way battles. (China didn't want to ally, because seriously, what could you need less than a superpower protecting you from another one that is invading you RIGHT THIS MOMENT)

Took Siam just to make a point, Germany declared a half-assed war on France without taking neither Austria, Poland nor Czechoslovakia.

Just as I wanted to declare war on them, (France didn't want to ally so I guess I would've had to ship everyone from spain ¯\(°_o)/¯) the british decided to declare war on me.

I stopped the demonstration there. Come to think of it, I just wanted to take central america in the beginning. Felt good, man

And we are close to 48 hours already. The sun never sets on the Paradox thread!

To contribute something meaningful with this post, I once lost a battle in EU2 with 1000 of my men trying to take an island with three rebel cannon and nothing else. And on the opposite end of the scale, I once conquered and annexed a nation with 12 infantrymen.

>>5874965

In EU3, I once besieged a fort with an army of 10,000 infantry. To my delight, I found it had been beleaguered by rebels for some time and was down to 20 defenders. So I went ahead and attacked. And damn if those 20 defenders didn't annihilate half my army without losing a single soul.

>>5875030

Fuck man, attacked the wrong people ., those fuckers were iron men.

They should have been given a heroes funeral

fucking geeks

>>5875199

So, you decided to come to the nerdiest corner of pretty much the worst site on the Internet to post that little gem?

Bump with more Paradox awesomeness, specifically the Soviet Union spectacularly failing to conquer Estonia. Now, the Winter War we have to accept as plausible because it happened, but losing Leningrad to the Estonians?

>>5875323

shut the fuck up geek

>>5875361

The mentally retarded can be so cute sometimes.

>>5875323

Haha, what could have caused that? Are they preoccupied with a war against Japan in the East or what?

Pic is a Bishop that's been dead for decades but still rules over his province.

>>5875323

Just defending against my Operation Barbarossa, I think. I may have launched it a year early. But you still wouldn't expect them to leave Leningrad completely undefended while at war with Estonia right next door!

My Polish empire in 1483 (1399 start)

But yeah, EU3: In Nomine is a bit too easy, especially as one of the larger nations. So I started playing Magna Mundi Platinum as Styria. Really love slowly turning the imperial demesne into core provinces. Just gotta hope that Brandenburg never manages to steal my crown, I'd lose more than half my territory.

>>5873862
>HOI2 in file name
>Megacampgain

Wait, what? How do you do that?

>>5875939
Also, starting in 1066? Is that a mod or something? Earliest I can start is 1936.

>>5875939
>>5876043

He started in Crusader Kings in 1066, converted the game over to EU3 in 1399, converted that to Victoria in 1800 (Vicky normally starts in 1836, he modded it to make it begin earlier), and converted to HoI2 in 1936. The game is absolutely epic, and I don't use that word lightly.

>>5876058
...wow

Just how long did this take?

>>5876099

He started in March 2008 and the HoI2 portion is ongoing, currently in 1940. He's taken a few months worth of breaks between new games.

>>5876099
870 years.

>>5873319
Holy shit this thread is still here?
Awesome.
Question remains, which is the best starting game for a Paradox noobie?

>>5876218
HOI2

Fuck.

50 hours.

ARCHIVE THIS THREAD. ON 4CHAN ARCHIVE AND SUPTG.

THIS HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF NON STICKIED RECORD.

>>5876218

EU3 is considered the most newbie-friendly. All recent paradox games have their own wikis with lots of starter guides and explanations of how the game works, and all of them have active forum communities full of helpful people on the official paradox forums to fall back on if you need further help.

OP here.

Wow, you guys are awesome. I am pondering about starting a war with England now. It is the only nation in the world who has the power to cause some trouble to me(though they are my allies). But that would probably make the game too boring... So maybe I should reorganize my vassals under, say, seven archdukes and raise the taxes to see what happens?

>>5876613

>see what happens

Some of the most glorious and terrible things in history were spawned from that phrase.
DO IT!

Video games that are the juristdiction of /tg/

Dwarf Fortress
X-COM
Dungeon Crawl
Paradox Games

this is why white people are virgins

>>5877025

You forgot Black Isle.