Wait, you're bitching because who you boned in the last game won't have an important effect on the plot?

That's what you're bitching about?

I mean, what if they worrying about the more important choices, the ones more critical to the plot of the game, and make those matter, rather than "who you fucked"?

>>6683766
It's completely illogical.

Why would your love interest not play a vital part in the entire series? I thought we were playing Commander Shepherd, not James Bond.

It will be somewhere along the lines of "how's Liara doing?" when you meet somebody from the old crew, I guess.

I'm more pissed about going over completely to regenerating health. What was wrong with regenerating shields + health bar? And what's this shit about ammo count now? Did they pay attention to the codex that they fucking wrote in the first game?

>>6683774
It wouldn't play a critical part because it's not a love story. The romance subplots were all just that: subplots. They didn't have a major impact on the plot of the first fucking game.

Liara is part of a species of space whores.

You really thought she was going to remember you anon? She probably slept with the Krogan the night after, then slept with the pilot just for his sexy seth green voice.

>>6683785
She broke his pelvis?

>>6683766
There were "vital choices" in Mass Effect?
Because from what I remember the whole "choice" you had came down to doing one of two quests based on your responses which didn't actually affect anything except a arbitrary point pool for Renegade/Paragon.

It's a video GAME. Sometimes you have to sacrifice some plot/setting to add new functions or opportunities to a game.

>>6683774
This isn't a love story, for one. Romance will always take a sideline to the main plot.

>>6683779
Who knows. On the latter, I think people complained too much about the lack of management involved, and how certain easy to produce weapon combos let you do shit like fire a machine gun forever.

>>6683794

Had to happen somehow right? Crazy blue-tentacle-head sex is the way I'd like to lose my pelvis.

>>6683779
There's no ammo counter except on heavy weaponry that don't rely on slugs.

On non-heavy weaponry, however, you've got thermal clips. Once a weapon overheats, you can CHOOSE to expel and replace the thermal clip if you want to return to combat straight away.

Nothing worse than having your shotgun overheat when you're confronted with a charging krogan.

>>6683798
Killing Wrex totally had no effect on the game at all.

>>6683799
Naw, this is about getting perks from a completed savegame in the previous game. New players without that savegame get a brand new plot.

>>6683799
It's also a sequel, and the plot was always the best part of the Mass Effect series. It's supposed to be a TRILOGY. Characters carry through trilogies.

Apparently not in the Mass Effect trilogy though, because characters aren't important!

I think its a general sign that the small choices you made in the first game will have little to no bearing on the second. Even then I expect only choices that can be reasonably written around without nailing down the plot completely will be addressed.

From a player narrative perspective, the small choices matter since they shaped the player experience as much or more than the 'big' choices - of which there's really only one they have to address directly (the decision about the council). The others can simply be written around (like pulling a KotoR 2 and everyone from the first game is dead).

>>6683808
Did it?
Can you honestly say it had ANY effect on something significant?

Shepard.

>>6683800
Sure, when you're level fifty. For most of the game managing heat is a big part of combat.

There was nothing wrong with the health system, though. Nothingl. And now I wonder if there will be any difference in health for the various classes, or if they kept classes at all. What I'm mostly pissed about is that there's really no justification for the fact that before, a single block the size of a pistol magazine could produce several thousand high-velocity rounds, and now you have to reload every forty shots or so.

She slept with you on the premise that the world was coming to an end, now that all that is over, you can go back too being so ronery.

>>6683824
It will have significance in ME2, yes.

If you haven't played ME or if you killed Wrex, he won't show up.

If you have kept him alone in ME, there's a reunion waiting for you somewhere in there.

I hear Bioware saying that it's possible for Shepard to die at the end of ME2.

I get the feeling that they mean this in much the same way that the Council could die in the original ME, in that you will decide if it happens about 30 seconds ahead of time and all the other choices you've made in the game will be meaningless.

>>6683815
But the plot wasn't very good. In fact, it was generic as hell. Killer robots employing other killer robots to kill all fleshies. Also, three planets conveniently gurded by three lieutenants. And an ancient civilization who were superduper advanced.

No, what was good about the game was the characters, the dialogue and the design (apart from the side missions. Seriously, what the fuck?).

>>6683798

Most vital would be weather you saved the council or not, and then who you put in charge after.

>>6683840
More accurately, it's likely to be something along the lines of "Look, Shepherd - what you've done before is incredible, but this is completely different. You won't come back from this, you know that?"

Death will probably be the ultimate paragon option.

>>6683858
Save the council is the only vital choice. Who you put in charge can be easily written around.

>>6683861

ME3 Transhumanism saves the day, shep-copies for everyone!

All of biowares characters of late seem like the are written by robots desperately trying to understand human feelings and failing.

>>6683849
Pretty much, as much as I enjoyed the game overall - I spent a lot of time rolling my eyes at the 'omg evil synthetic intelligence is evil' stuff.

>>6683815
Plot was nothing special. Character dynamics and cinematics were the most important things in ME, and Bioware handled these very well.

Their marketing campaign was based around the fact that you could make choices... but they left out the fact that those were mostly choices about whether you wanted to be a nice guy or a prick. And since being a nice guy ALWAYS worked out there's no reason to be a prick unless you, you know, WANT to be a prick just for the hell of it.

Choices are fucking meaningless without consequences to follow them. I hope Bioware has learned this lesson (what I've heard about Dragon Age: Origins makes me think they have, a bit) but I wouldn't be surprised if they have another plot you follow very very closely with almost no variation based on your actions.

>>6683866
Well, it depends, there's four outcomes from the council thing:

Paragon saves the Council: "Welcome to the Council, humans!"
Renegade saves the Council: "Unconventional human tactics have led to victory - could you lead our military operations as well as join the Council?"
Paragon kills the Council: "Let's rebuild a council with humanity as the figurehead."
Renegade kills the Council: "Let's construct an all-human council to rule over Citadel space with an iron fist."

>>6683785
pretty much this.

and no, I don't want rule 34, thank you very fucking much.

>>6683825
Wrex.

>>6683861
But that's exactly what I said.

You pick up-right instead of right or down-right (assuming that you haven't gotten the skill you need to go blue up-left instead) right before the ending and he dies. Nothing else you do will have any fucking effect on the ending whatsoever.

>>I want my Liara.

Fat-faced boring as fuck bland bitch.

I'm getting the feeling after going through Dragon Age that a lot of the feelings we developed for characters in Mass Effect were projected onto them rather than inherent or intended.

I like Garrus and wrex as much as the next person, but with dialogue interactions limited to the ship & elevators & brief mission events, it doesn't do much.

>>6683861
>Death will probably be the ultimate paragon option.

Nope. Bioware has flat out stated that you won't die, at least story-wise, as long as you prepare enough. How prepared you are will determine who, if anyone, on your team dies.

>>6683887
Being a prick in a Bioware game has always felt incredibly petty and retarded.

>>6683887
Next time you play the game, imagine you're a professional soldier in the military, who has been raised to a position where they must make the ultimate choice.
Don't play "paragon" or "renegade". Make your choices based on how a soldier would react.

>>6683888
One sentence:

Other races are unhappy about humans being on the Council.

That covers all eight possibilities. You forgot to factor in Anderson/Udina.

>>6683908
Being a nice guy comes out the same way though.

>>6683914

That's what I did on my first play-through. End result - Shepherd was Gordon Freeman INNNN SPAAAAACE.

You know what I would like? 1) For my decisions to make a fucking difference in the end rather than simply filling a pointless gauge 2) for there to actually be different way to handle problems instead of doing the exact same thing, regardless of Paragon/Renegade status, moral compass, equipment and skills (VtM: Bloodlines should be an inspiration for more games).

>>6683926
No, it makes you think "Wow, what a nice guy. NOW FOR THOSE DELICIOUS 'YOU'RE NOT AN ASSHOLE' POINTS YES BONUS TO HEALING MAGIC!"

Bioware is doing it wrong. "Good" and "evil" should be incidental to your actions, not the deciding factor. Choices and consequences, bitches. Look at Fallout and Arcanum.

>>6683902
The player is always going to project, especially to fill gaps in the presentation. Otherwise we'd all be robots playing a game exactly as presented without any opinion about it.

Most of the characters who join you (aside from space redneck racist marine lass) were written to be likable. Whether any of them were intended to be as popular as they turned out to be is something else entirely.

So how would one go about doing a Mass Effect P&P?

A few of my friends have showed interest after I mentioned the idea offhandedly.

>>6683943
>(Deus Ex should be an inspiration for more games).

Fix'd.

>>6683902

But if so many who play it can project likeable personalities to them, I'd say that's pretty good writing.

I mean, if you like them then the creators have done their job, even if you fill the void yourself. That they can make you fill that void is quite a feat, although it may have been unintended.

>>6683953
Savge Worlds for everything. Add the sci-fi books if you want.

>>6683953
Eclipse Phase, keep the transhumanism low and allow psychic powers, maybe do some of your own to represent biotics. You have everything else there already.

Alternatively d20 Future. Or GURPS or something.

>>6683971
>(Deus Ex and VtM: Bloodlines should be inspirations for more games)
Compromise?

>>6683952
>aside from space redneck racist marine lass

stormtrooper.jpeg

Look sir, dipshits!

>>6683926
Its always kill a kitten or put a kitten through college. Never kill a kitten or kill a puppy. There's rarely any granularity to your choices.

I liked Williams. There was nothing wrong with her.

Cut it out you faggots.

>>6683982
Add Fallout and Arcanum to that list with RPGs specifically in mind and I think we have a deal.

>>6683982
Can we add some "Witcher" to that?
I don't remember any other game that stretched the consequences of your action in time so they kick you in the ass several weeks/months later (in game time).

>>6683995

>>6683995
You sure about that?

>>6684000
>>6684004
Gentlemen, I think we have a deal.

>>6683982

Agreed.

>>6683995

And that's what hacks me off about Bioware. Always black/white "help old lady across street" -OR- "rape and dismember old lady, wear her head as a hat". Very rarely do they even throw in WHAT A TWEEST "your good act caused evil to happen".

>>6683997
She racist.

Fuck you, bitch, it is racism. They're a different species but they're fellow sentients, and no, allowing a Turian to be on a ship that the fucking Turians helped design and build is not a security risk, and as a matter of fact I will order you to go kiss Garrus, and make sure you do it in the groin region.

>>6684010
Damn, beat me to it.

>>6684010
>>6684019

hey guys have you heard? you will be able to use your character from baldurs gate 2 in the upcoming neverwinter nights! this is going to be awesome

>>6684026
I'd do it.

>>6684032
HAHA. I remember that shit.

>>6684026
I never got the racist vibe off her. Seriously.

Hell even if she is so what, the first thing that happened to humanity when they started exploring space the in the ME universe was they got into a war with the Turians. It's understandable that there is some animosity.

>>6684046
Towards Turians, sure. Though if you have her in your party with any of the alien characters there's plenty of elevator dialogue that ranges from 'wow you're naive and have no tact' to 'you better be glad I'm here keeping Wrex from ripping your head off'.

>>6684046
Actually it's just leftover butthurt from everyone calling her grandpa a spineless bitch since he surrendered when he realized that Turian military ideology has no concept of collateral damage or anything less than total commitment to war.

That's why I consider having her die on Virmire to be GOOD END, since even though you told her not to die for any causes you know for a fact that her posthumous medal of honor is a big fuck you to all the naysayers.

>>6683785
Read that in Tex's voice

Liara is the damsel in distress. You rescue her, woo her, then she goes back to being a freaky little anti-social scientist.

Tali is clearly The Girl. Just pay attention to all her dialogue. She practically idolizes you.

>>6684138
But fucking you will kill her.

>>6684046
Humans? Racist? NEVER.

All of the other races seemed to be racist towards humans anyway, as evidenced by your first visit to the citadel.

>>6684138
Long term (for them) relationships don't really seem to be a thing with their culture anyway.

>>6684046
Have you actually noticed that she's the only human racist in the game? Granted, there are some aliens that are also racist, but they have better reasons for hatred (like war or genophage) than "I can not accept that God created aliens too. We were supposed to be his favourite species!" and "I DUN'T UNDERSTAND. ME SMASH".

She is a redneck and a christfag. Every time I've made a choise between her and Kaiden, I was glad that I won't have to put up with her shit anymore.

>>6684154
I always thought the point of this in the game was trying to illustrate individualism, and that humans and aliens are as generic as they are unique.

>>6684151
I bet you could fuck if you had a room with a controlled environment, with purified air, specifically for fucking.

It's not like all relationships have to be about sex anyway.

>>6684167
>only human racist
Udina. The political rally. And about a dozen others I can't name offhand.

YOU FAIL

>>6684154
It's only because everyone else has so little experience with humans, them having been inducted into galactic culture only 26 years prior. And the overwhelming sense they got from humans was not "we're smart" or "we're adaptable" or even "we're crazy," it was "get out of our way or we will fuck you up." Liara says everyone else sees humans as bullies who make a point of not laying all their cards on the table (where the fuck did that counterattack come from?!?) and it's understandable that the other non-council races would be pissed off upon realizing that humans joining the council is a very likely prospect even before all that Reapers bullshit happens.

To be fair there are plenty of minor character human racists. The reporter who jumps you with an interview in the Citadel trying to make you look bad (if you give non-human supremacist answers), the gang member guy from Earth, and your navigator. At least your navigator/XO had sense enough to not shoot off his mouth about it.

>>6684167
No, I did not notice that. In fact, that asshole human ambassador guy (name starts with a U) seemed pretty racist to me, going on about how OMG MEEN the aliens were.

I bet there were tons of human racists, but you only knew a few human characters in-depth.

>>6684183
Even in a sterile environment, you'd probably pass on various microbes that are harmless to humans but could be deadly to someone with no immune system.

>>6684160
I didn't spot anything to suggest anything at all about what kind of relationships Quarians have.

I'm fine with that because I'm not particularly attracted to Liara or Ashley.

>>6684167
AND HEAR WE FUCKING GO AGAIN, WHEN DOES SHE EVER MENTION SHE'S A CHRISTIAN OR THAT GOD DIDN'T MAKE ALIENS YOU FUCKING MORON, DID YOU EVEN PLAY THE SAME GAME I DID, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DID, SHE MENTIONS BEING SPIRITUAL ONCE IN A CONVERSATION THAT YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO PURSUE AND THAT IT'S BECAUSE OF ALIENS AND ALL THE OTHER SHIT SHE HAS SEEN SINCE JOINING THE ALLIANCE MILITARY YOU CUMSLURPING DICKGOBBLER AKLSJFBASJKDG BAKSDNGV BAS.DFJGASJBFASLDSBGADLK;GB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>6684185
Udina wasn't racist. He was a quite nervious man for a diplomat, and he had to work with what was basically a group of arrogant fuckfaces.

>>6684207
You could have like a cleansing chamber or something. I've seen those in scifi before.

>>6684207
He clearly meant the Asari, not the Quarians.

>>6684091
Eh, Wrex and Ashley talked military stuff.

>>6683737
I totally cockblocked the Asari bitch.
She was all "do you think there could be anything between us" and I was all "FUCK YOU BLUE ALIEN SCIENTIST THING".

Except I was pissed when I was being deliberately cagey and apparently I liked Liara which was a CROCK OF SHIT.

>>6684207
I meant the Asari.

>>6684220
She says she believes in God and she has an American accent. She doesn't need to state what Christian sect she is a part of.

The fastest moving thread currently on /tg/ belongs on /v/.

Fuck you all up the ass.

>>6684239
Because christianity is the only religion white america has.

Right.

>>6684221
Udina was "FUCK YEAH HUMANITY FUCK EVERYONE ELSE HUMANITY IS AWESOME LET'S RULE THE GALAXY" and anyone who says otherwise is obviously a lying cunt, or blind.

>>6684234
>>6684230
Oh, yeah, Asari are pretty loose about relationships. They don't tend to last very long.

>>6684231
I managed to seduce Kaiden on one playthrough. Despite NEVER ACTUALLY TALKING TO HIM AT ALL WHAT THE FUCK. I was highly confus

>>6684225
Decontamination chambers can't eliminate the microbes living inside your body. Even the tooth-unfriendly bacteria in your mouth could the the source of an epidemic that wipes out an entire Quarian ship.

The only possible way is a full-body condom for both of you, and that's just no fun at all.

>>6684255
Yes, I'm glad you get it.

Jews are a very small minority and wicca doesn't count.

>>6684097

I let her die because it was more important to destroy the krogan breeding facility than to get away with no damage to the ship. I still find it odd that you didn't suffer any consequences other than losing somebody.

>>6684256
I let Kaiden die.

Fuck, he was my bro. Probably because he reminded me of Carth, and probably because he was on Eden Prime.

>>6683785
If I were her, I would too.

Seth had consistently the best line delivery in the entire game. Even the insanely dorky line he gives after you rescue Liara.

Also, he saved the galaxy.

>>6684267
>Jews are a very small minority, so there's no way they can exist in my vidya gaems. Nope nope.

>>6684274
I always save the Salarian STG. Because those bastards deserve to live.

>>6684290
/agree

>>6684295
Volus

SPACE JEWS

>>6684290
>dorky lines
And speaking of, who the fuck wrote the dialogue? Some of the lines in the game are horribly badly worded and sound stupid.

>>6684220
She clearly tries to get you into her christfag faggotry at least once.

It actually explains a lot.

And stop deluding yourself, her father has next to nothing to do with her racist bullshit. She feels disgust to all the aliens, not just turians. So I'd say she's just a typical ignorant bitch.

also

adultswithimaginaryfriends.jpg

>>6684299
How do you do that?

I planned to because I felt bad for Wrex, and then before I knew it there were Geth all up in this motherfucker and I'm running to a comm tower to save Ash and talk to the antiradioactive lizard twat that doesn't realise he's a puppet.

>"what you did in the last game will greatly affect your new game"

So the council is dead, humanity is in charge of everything and ALL BOY TO THE IMPERIUM OF MAN

sweet

You can have a little spiritual discussion with Ashley, she mentions believing in god etc. And yeah she is racist, to an acceptable degree. Just new to the whole alien species thing racist.

>>6684323
To be fair quite a bit of the Normandy crew are like "what the hell why are there aliens on our fucking awesome ship? That shit is bananas, commander."

>>6683952
Ashley is not a racist.

1. Ashley mentions believing in god. Not God. Big difference.
2. Ashley is a military bitch. Humanity just finished having a huge war with the Turians. Of course there's going to be tons of fucking racist propaganda flying around, THAT'S WHAT THE MILITARY DOES.
3. She gets along perfectly fine with everyone else on the Normandy. She even made fun of Liara a few times during those incredibly long elevator rides.

>>6683825

Wrex.

>>6684332
You should have been given the option to keep Tali out of the engine room.

The Normandy is state of the art and nobody else has anything like it. It is valuable Alliance technology and giving knowledgeable foreign nationals access to its secrets is inviting trouble.

>>6684332

enough that I actually felt shitty about bringing them aboard because the ship's crew had done a lot for it and completely dismissing their feelings on their own ship felt like a dick thing to do

>>6684332
Which is perfectly reasonable given how these aliens include a retired policeman, a scientist and a FUCKING BOUNTY HUNTER who have no Alliance authority at all.

>>6684350
Ashley isn't racist, she just doesn't swallow Council propaganda is all.

Her analogy about the man, dog, and bear in regards to the Council is spot on. Anyone who disagrees just needs to look at the krogan and the quarians. Or better yet, the current conflict between humanity and the geth.

>>6684355
The whole sequence of events that end up with you having a ship full of aliens is incredibly contrived and silly, in true RPG fashion. The response everyone gives to the sudden change of circumstance, and that's the crew AND the aliens themselves, are pretty believable in retrospect.

>>6684350

lol, please

>>6684314
Oh, I get it, it all makes sense now, you're the teenage atheist version of the black guy who sees plot's against the black race where they don't exist.

>>6684373
A compelling argument if there ever was one

Fuck Liara, Kaiden, and Ashley. I want my female Shepard to hook up with Wrex. They would be the cutest couple of mass destruction ever.

>>6684362
>>6684355
It would all be fine if you just had the option to force Tali out of the engine room. The others really aren't that much of a security risk because they don't have the training or knowledge to steal anything. Tali however knows all about engines and she could easily take her observations to a private company and give them the information they need to build a tantalus drive core or stealth system of their own.

If that happened the Alliance would have lost its most significant technologal edge, not to mention it'd be out millions of credits. The Normandy and its technology ought to play a huge role for the Alliance since it gives it a big advantage. If that technology is ever given to another entity it should only be after we've made the most use of it first, and only in return for concessions in our favor.

Spess Romance?

on MY warship?

gtfo

Does anyone here actually care about the first Salarian in the group? Mortem the Doctor? With an "ends justify the means" outlook on your team medic, you know you're either fucked, or in for a wild time.

>>6684372

Agreed. I kept looking for the dialogue option, "Get these assholes the fuck off my ship before I'm forced to shove them out of an airlock." And/or, "Welcome aboard, here's your Compliance Collar. Put it on. Now."

>>6684385
I don't know if Krogans are interested in romance. Or even know what romance is. I think Krogan romance consists of pretty much a lot of really brutal fucking and some violence.

>>6684394

And I would be perfectly okay with that.

>>6684387
Normandy isn't the Alliance's trump card. She's a co-project with the Turian military AND technically she is funded by the Citadel.

Is the whole crew going to be in it? I wants me some Garrus.

>>6684391
Kind of an odd combination.

>>6684391
>Mortem the Doctor
>Mortem
>the Doctor
>DOCTOR MORTEM

Wow. Bioware....just wow.

>>6684409

Sheppard here

Garrus is a bro

Wrex is cool too

Who cares about Liara anyway? Tali's where it's at.

>>6684418
lol'd

She felt his claws curl around her waist, hardened scales digging into her skin. Wrex was careful not to tear her flesh, though his claws still pricked a few places uncomfortably. That was good; Krogan females may have hardier skin, but when a male and a female mated, a male would make sure she wouldn’t go anywhere by pinning her with his claws. Shepard was getting the same treatment; his claws wouldn’t let her go much of anywhere if she desired to. It was a natural impulse- if females squirmed too much, impregnation could be difficult.

And females typically did try to move near the end of a coupling.

Wrex growled a little, positioning himself and sometimes sliding his aching cock against her lips. He liked the little whimpering noises she sometimes made- Krogan females mostly groaned and growled, but apparently human females weren’t like that. At least not Shepard. He was getting used to her size really, because she didn’t have the bulk and build of his species of female. The movement sometimes frustrated him; and she would try to move and upset the whole ordeal by causing his cock to slide against her again. He was almost coated with her wetness, and the smell of it was driving him insane.

Finally, he dug his claws in to make sure she didn’t move, just barely managing not to draw any blood, but warning her enough against trying to help him. He felt her shudder and whimper again, but he said nothing. His eyes flashed with aggravation…he was more than ready to give her something else to cry about, but instead he was just coated with her sex, his cock was aching and his balls were hanging low, but with nothing to fuck.

He moved again, and this time, he found the right position. He heard her gasp a little as the tip of his cock pressed against her entrance. He felt his loins catch fire, more than eager as he found her. She was wet and more than ready, and his blood was racing at the thought.

“You’re mine, Shepard.”

His claws dug in a little more, enough to be a slight pain, forcing her back as he thrust forward. An animalistic growl ripped from his throat and he bared his teeth a little, his eyes flashing with a mixture of triumph and volatile sexual impulses. She cried out from the sudden intrusion, her walls stretching to accommodate his girth and size. She wasn’t a virgin but he still caused her twinges of pain. As he held onto her waist, he moved closer to her, burying his cock in to the base of his balls. He could feel her trembling and gasping beneath him, accommodating to the changes slowly. All the while he pinned her with his claws, refusing her the right to move.

In fact, he cast a quick glance around the room, lowly growling in his throat while she began to recover. It was an impulse; a way to make sure that anything and everything in the area knew that this was his. In fact, the signals he was throwing off now would make Krogan Warlords hesitate before trying to steal this female from him. It was an animalistic reaction, purely primal, but very effective.

Shepard felt…different. For one thing, Wrex was huge, and filled every part of her. He was thicker than humans with his girth, and that made pleasurable feelings surge to the surface instantly as he stretched her walls and touched her in ways that no other human could. It felt deliciously right, though she swallowed back the truth of what was happening. A part of her still clung to the rationality that this-should-not-be-happening. But she’d be lying if she said she hated that possessive snarl that ripped from his throat as he glanced around the room. She’d by lying if she said that the pain hadn’t gone away and she didn’t want him to keep going. She’d be lying if she said she didn’t like the feel of his huge testicles against her legs and rear.

She’d just be flat out lying if she said she didn’t like it.

“Wr-ah!”

>>6684430
>krogan
>impregnation could be difficult

>>6684407
The Normandy is a combination of turian engineering and Alliance technology. The Alliance footed most of the bill and contributed chiefly to the Normandy's signature features.

Ask yourself this: why would the turians design a stealth craft to begin with? It doesn't fit their military doctrine very well. Secondly, why is it the Normandy is an ALLIANCE ship.

It belongs to the Alliance, not to anybody else. The Council paid part of the bill in an effort to entice humanity to invite the turians into the project. However their contribution it is implied namely comes in the form of the ship's layout.

Regardless, even assuming the turians know the Normandy inside and out that is not an excuse to invite foreign nationals (or even random humans) on board the ship to learn its secrets.

Whether the turians have this technology or not it is still a huge boost to the Alliance.

Whatever she’d been about to say, whether it would have been a final submission to this act, or whether it would have been another protest, didn’t matter. He moved, pulling out of her channel until only the tip of his cock was still in. And then he rammed back into her, grunting as his balls banged against legs.

Shepard had no choice but to fist the blankets of the bed as he repeated the process, again and again. He held her to him whenever he pumped back in all the way, helping her to keep her balance against his body’s own inertia. Each time he came back she trembled and cried out again in pleasure.

The process was slow; Wrex took his time dragging his cock, soaked with her juices, out of her body before jutting back in with enough ferocity to make her cry out. He enjoyed the extreme pleasure coursing through his body, especially his groin. Each time she made a sound, his eyes flashed and he repeated the act, just to hear it again. He maintained his steady pace however, never quite going much faster. There was a reason behind it of course, the last bit of “logic” that was keeping him from pounding into her body without a second thought.

At least they both enjoyed the slowness; his balls gained a familiar aching sensation and her walls clenched around his cock as if to keep him. His claws dug into her whenever he pressed forward again, to keep her from slipping away under the force of his thrusts. Every second that passed between them, his senses became more aware of Shepard below.

His blood went hot and his cock started to thrust harder whenever he pulled back out, his nose picking up the smell of her sex over his body. He recognized that her reactions to his penetrations no longer even hinted at pain. And when she began to forget that his claws were digging into her skin, her body instinctively trying to worm its way back to him, he knew she was ready. Her own juices had lubricated her enough..when the time came that he would release, she’d be ready for it.

“I’m not pulling out, Shepard,” he growled, voice dangerously low.

>>6684437
Yeah, those bastards are virile as fuck. It's the females they messed with. According to the subtext.

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> Like turians, the quarians are a dextro-protein species of reverse chirality from humans and asari. The food of levo-protein races such as humans or asari is at best inedible and at worst poisonous; most likely triggering a dangerous allergic reaction. Quarians who want to taste something (other than the refined edible paste issued to all who leave on their Pilgrimage) can eat specially purified turian cuisine.

It would be highly unlikely anything from us would even recognize anything in her as something to infect.

That was the only warning she got. She couldn’t even get two words out as he pumped her again. But this time, the rhythm changed entirely. He didn’t wait a few minutes and then thrust back. He instantly thrust back in and repeated the motion. Her mind reeled and she gasped as he started to bang into her. He barely gave her time to think. He controlled every gyration in their coupling, every action, thanks to his claws occasionally digging in, pulling her back to him and releasing her so that she could move away a bit as he thrust out.

Her breasts bounced under her body as he pounded into her, while her mind started focusing on some of the most trivial things imaginable. She could feel his four testicles beating her skin as he pounded her. She could hear the results of their coupling; occasional splat noises that were created whenever his cock left and thrust back in. She realized she loved the feel of his cold scales against her heated skin. She whimpered whenever he growled or grunted something feral and unknown.

And sometimes he’d bite out, “You’re mine, Shepard,” and she’d experience pleasure beyond belief.

“Wr…ah..ex.”

GOD NO

The Krogan growled, the sound emanating from the back of his throat. His eyes narrowed a bit and he increased the pace, moving from serious heavy petting to fucking in a matter of seconds. His balls itched in a sense, and he growled as he started to release pre-cum into her body. The hot spurts of liquid came fast around her vaginal walls, adding further pleasure to the feelings arising in her lower body. Now, with the smell of his sex in her, he became more serious in his motions.

He was more than a little proud as she began to duck her head, closing her eyes in ecstasy. He would watch her and observe her reactions as he slid his cock in and out at a furious pace. He liked the way her breasts moved with his actions and the way her body shook. He liked the way she clenched the blankets and sheets between her fingers, her knuckles turning white. He liked the way she whimpered every few seconds, and he liked the way she cried out when he seemed to hit the right spot with a furious thrust in. He loved knowing that, as a male, she was his female, and their mating proved what dominance he had over her.

“Wrex…oh…Wrex…ah!”

Another growl tore from his throat. His balls started to ache with a familiar warning. But he continued to pound her, making her cry out. He wanted to hear his name, again and again move from her lips. He wanted to give her something to really scream and squirm and cry about. And he kept his pace relentless, surprising her with his energy and force.

So much heat…Shepard ducked her head once more and closed her eyes to the building pressure in her lower body. Her release would come soon; she could feel it building as he worked her time and again. Her mind was fuzzy with want and need, and she missed some of the things he said to her. Sometimes she began to count the amount of times his balls hit the back of her legs…

“…ard.”

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>>6684391

Being a guy that loves roleplaying the "cleric" or "medic" role in my group this makes me happy. Doctors know more about your body than you do, about time they use it to their advantage.

>>6684455
Okay good point.

Now that I think about it, if her body chemistry finds ordinary amino acids toxic....would spooging in her mouth kill her?

She cried out and missed it again, for the umpteenth time. But as he continued their pace, he repeated the words, baring his teeth a little proudly at the knowledge that she was losing her mind.

“Say it, Shepard.”

He was relentless. She shuddered and ducking her head, a whine building in her throat. “Hnnnnnnnn.”

“Say. It.”

She could barely think straight. But she tried. “I’m…ah…yours.”

“Damn straight you are,” he snapped instantly, eyes flashing. She was close. Her walls closed around his cock in desperate attempts to keep him still and get him to release. Her muscles almost begged him in a way. And that was more than enough to give his balls a reason to release.

He thrusted deeply into her, his cock moving into her womb and causing her to cry out. His cock jerked, his balls went tight and he snarled again.

“WREX!” She cried out in pure, white-hot ecstasy, her walls pulling him in as deeply as possible. Her mind reeled at the possibility of his sperm flooding her. She wasn’t certain of what to expect from it, and the idea of not knowing made the orgasm all the more pleasurable.

And he was shooting off in her. Hot splats of his sperm coated her cervix, her womb, and began to leak from between her lips. He never released her, nor did he pull out of her, growling and sometimes panting. Finally, he grunted and pressed a little more into her once the initial spurts of cum were out.

Shepard thought she had died and gone to heaven. She had never experienced anything like this before. It was hot and dangerous. Wrong but right. She felt feverish, but in a good way, and as the first waves of her orgasm began to subside, she felt another one coming on.

Wrex felt another release of his own. He growled again, baring his teeth as he dug his claws into her and forced himself in all the way. He felt the change in his prick; the slowly growing bulge near the end of his cock. It grew while he was in her, and stretched her walls even more, but at a slow pace so as not to hurt her. Finally, his balls clenched again and Shepard cried out once more.

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"Shepard."
"Wrex."
"Shepard."
"Wrex."
"Shepard."
"Wrex."
"Shepard."
"Wrex."
"Shepard."
"Wrex."
"Shepard."
"Wrex."

This time when he came in her, the sperm, and the collection of their cum together had nowhere to go, except for in. There was no escape, the bulge in his cock near the end not only preventing her movement away from him, but locking whatever he released into her body. This was yet again, Krogan biology at it’s finest. Females sometimes resisted matings, sometimes tried to get away, or sometimes accidentally squirmed during a release. Male Krogan, as their species evolved, developed a sort of plugging system to keep their seed where it belonged- inside the female. Naturally, the growing bulge would produce even more orgasms and cause a female to open up and accept the seed, but it also kept any of that potent sperm from escaping.

Ever.

And now was no different. Wrex treated her no different from any Krogan female. He buried himself deep in her and let loose while he prevented her escape. He was only gentle in the beginning to make sure that his bulge did not inadvertently hurt her too much. And as a human, she had to get used to having a Krogan- he was larger than any human male she’d ever had.

“Don’t move, Shepard.” It was the only thing he said to her, but she didn’t have much of a choice. Moving away during this process actually hurt. That bulge of his continued to grow in her, creating new feelings in her body, but when she moved away from it, tiny spurs on the bulge would dig into her walls. She whimpered and stopped moving.

>>6684455
Even just dust particles could give her an allergic reaction.

>>6684479
I imagine them doing that for like an hour...

"Well, I'm glad we had this little chat. I feel much better about life and the universe and stuff."
"Shepard."

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Sir, you seem to have been mistaken on the preferred gender of Shepard.

And then when he came again and snarled, she cried out again as well. His cock jerked and sputtered, his balls tightened and released copious amounts of his sperm deep within her body. Neither of them had any notion of what this could mean to them, though honestly Wrex didn’t care and Shepard’s mind was too far gone to pleasure to wonder about consequences, if there would be any.

Hadn’t the Genophage nearly eliminated that threat anyway? She couldn’t think straight, not even to answer that question. Especially not as his hot cum flooded her womb, her channel, and coated her cervix as her vaginal walls sucked and enclosed around his member.

Her body, apparently, wanted to keep all of what he gave.

They spent more than half an hour like that, locked together, experienced pleasurable spasms and new orgasms. But Wrex eventually snorted, his bulge shrinking, his spurs no longer digging into her skin whenever she tried to move. His balls hung hot and loose away from her body, and his general spurting stopped. He slowly began to pull out of her, shooting off the last of his biological advantages.

>>6684487
That's called asthma.

>>6684491
Not that shit again.

WE ARE NOW DISCUSSING TALI'S HIPS

>>6684458
The right number of testicles! This story gets an official thimbs up.

A sticky, white substance, almost like sperm, but much more thick, followed his progress out of her body. It was meant to act as a weak kind of glue, to keep a kind of plug around her vaginal walls while his sperm continued their invasion. With his cock fully out of her though, and the plug no longer there, a mixture of his fluids and hers trickled out and down her inner thighs. Wrex growled as he watched her collapse, an impulsive pride sweeping through him. His eyes flashed and his brow furrowed as she closed her eyes and panted for a few minutes.

“Funny,” he growled. “You didn’t fight it nearly as much as our females do.”

Shepard turned her head and glared at him.

“But that was only round one, Shepard.” His eyes flashed. “And I’m not done with you yet.”

>>6684479

I lol'd

>>6684497
It's called having an immune system that is very sensitive.

>>6684532
I love the way Garrus says that though. He sounds honestly outraged.

>>6684540
She doesn't HAVE an immune system at all.

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>>6684532
I know that if you have Wrex you can't get Grunt.
Which makes me sad.
I'd love to have 80,000 credits worth of testicles in my party.

>>6684546
>She doesn't HAVE an immune system at all.

She has an immune system, you tard, it's just not a very good one. It lacks the antibodies to fight off most viruses and it can overreact to all sorts of contaminants.

What I would like to see is both males and females of all the species that you meet and that actually have them. I don't know why but, I really want to know what a female turian looks like.

I also want to know what is up with those little mandibles. I kept trying to figure out if certain emotions cause them to change their positions.

>>6684409

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/garrus-gameplay-mass-effect/58767

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I'm fapping and crying at the same time.
I think I feel the Warp overtaking me. It is a good pain.

>>6684550
Plus, it'd be the ultimate KROGAN PAIN TRAIN team.

>>6684548
It's not so much her hips as the fact that her waist is like fucking nothing. She's skinnier in the middle than a Turian, and those bastards are practically nothing but spine around the waist.

>>6684558
There are no male Asari.

Or female ones too, I suppose.

>>6684558
I've always had an urge to grab a turian's mandibles and snap them off. I bet they'd be great if you deep fried 'em.

I am curious to see female turians as well. There was a female salarian in one of the books too, as well as some female batarians. Batarians... I wonder what their ladies are like.

I'd like to fuck a batarian girl to show her that humanity is superior.

It's all about the elcor ladies.

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What I find slightly interesting is that in humans if they immune system has nothing to fit it kind of gets bored and starts to attack the body. There are some immune system problems that are actually fixed by constant infection treatment.

>>6684582
It's not rape if they can't express the word no in ways you can understand.

>>6684564
Whatever.

I would lick her all over, every inch, and cum so hard. With her suit on.

>>6684577
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that maybe the differences aren't going to be so obvious. Hell, I don't think any of the other races qualify as mammals so I doubt they'll have BOOBS.

Except the Asari. Who are genetically engineered to be whores.

>>6684591
Yes indeed.

>>6684582
I'm still not sure how the heck that elcor serial killer hacked up the bodies.

>>6684570

That is why I added the, "and that actually have them" part.

>>6684558

To add to this I would also like to see a turian Confucianist or preferably Zen Buddhist

>>6684585
Quarians aren't humans though.

>>6684600
Seeing as they come from a high gravity planet on most other inhabited worlds/space stations they are probably very capable of balancing one two or three legs. Their limbs are probably VERY strong.

Let me tell you of the glory of the Enkindlers.

>>6684617

Please do

>>6684558

I also want to know what is up with those projections from their "calves".

>>6684617

And people bitch about Ashley being religious.

>>6684617
How are the Hanar going to react when they find out the Protheans DIDN'T build the Mass Relays?

>>6684589

"Nervous. What are you doing? Distressed. No. Please stop. Horrified. Don't do this. Please. Ashamed and suffering. Sob."

>>6684623
Yes, but Ashley wasn't AWESOME!

>>6684626
They won't find out because the existence of the Reapers is classified.

>>6684623
Proteans existed at some point.

God does not.

>>6684626
Clearly the Enkindlers are testing our faith. They have no reason to worry. Our faith is strong.

>>6684626

Well one of three ways.

1. Still worship the Protheans because they were the ones that helped them evolve.
2. Worship the Reapers.
3. Won't care?

>>6684636
Hanar aren't awesome either.

I don't get it. There was one hanar preacher. One.

You talk to him and he either leaves or he doesn't.

>>6684637

Wait, why is it classified? It's the perfect way to get public support for the new human regime (if that's the scenario used), and an excellent way to assuage public concerns regarding the disaster at the Citadel. "Evil alien robots from another galaxy" makes you look a lot better than "that's classified," since the latter just makes it look like you fucked up.

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>>6684641
that's stupid how do you know.

>>6684662

I hate you so much.

This thread needs more Krogan sex.

>>6684659
>Wait, why is it classified?

I don't know, ask the Council. I suppose that the Council feared knowledge of the Reapers would cause a panic and crash the economy. Why spend money or obey the law if the destruction of civilization is imminent and inevitable? Behind the scenes the Council is probably revealing the truth to other governments in an effort to get them on board.

>>6684637

I am not sure how they could at this point. All of the Citadel saw one attack the station. Its remains are probably still floating around inside of it.

>>6684662

But you know that pizzas are made by chiefs, it's what pizza's do.

Sadly, we only have the one universe, so we can't see a God making a universe.

>>6684683
Who the fuck would go from "wow Saren sure has a big scary ship" to "THERE ARE MACHINE GODS WHO WANT TO KILL US ALL FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"

Personally I'm hoping for a Hanar quartermaster on the Normandy or something like that. I want to be tasked to deliver a strongly-worded letter to a Hanar by another Hanar, oblivious to the fact that this is the Hanar equivalent of a devastating nuclear war. MORE FUCKING HANAR GODDAMN IT

>>6684662

That doesn't even make sense.

Wouldn't a better analogy be:

CHRISTIAN LOGIC

Person1: This Pizza tastes like shit, but I'm going to keep eating it in the belief that I will be rewarded for eating shit by the chef at some point in the future.

Person2: I too will keep eating shit, despite no sign or indication that there will be a positive benefit to me by doing so.

ATHIEST LOGIC

Person1: This Pizza tastes like shit, clearly the chef is shit.

Person2: Clearly, let's stop eating it and start on the Garlic bread.

Person1: No if the Pizza tastes like this, then so must the Garlic bread, in fact all of the food that we ordered must taste like shit since this Pizza tastes like shit.

Person2: Shouldn't we check first?

Person1: You really want to risk eating more shit?

>why Bioware?
Because WRITERS

>>6684683
All people saw was a large dreadnaught. The Council told everyone that Sovereign was just a geth ship.

>>6684706
thats why i killed them.

FOR TERRA

>>6684700

You're full of shit.

>>6684713

Aha! The Agnostic argument!

>>6684713

This is what some people actually believe

>>6684700

I think it would be better to have the thing that the two people are discussing be something that could be man-made or artificial.

>>6684674

I think I saw a version of this where Wrex was in a top hat and monocle. It made me imagine his gruff voice in a posh British accent (and not a cockney one, a real high-class one), which made me lol.

>>6684700

Atheist logic would be better outlined as 'this pizza tastes like shit. There is no evidence to suggest eating this shit will bring any benefits to me, therefore I will not eat any more shit, thank you.'

>man-made or artificial.

that describes pizza perfectly.

>>6684720

Or a godawful pun.

>>6684721

...Because no man is capable of creating pizza?

>>6684721

... I thought Pizza WAS man made.

Are you telling me that there are Pizza fields out in deepest italy where during the harvest they are picked by skilled italian workers and prepared for shipping across the world?

Better analogy: watchmaker thingy.

>>6684739
Of course there are, dumbass. What, you think Italians invented pizza by -themselves-?

CHRISTIAN LOGIC

Person1: These are fossil records of creatures that lived millions of years ago.
Person2: Lol, that's dumb. The bible says the earth was created 10,000(?) years ago so that can't be true.

ATHIEST LOGIC


Person1: These are fossil records of creatures that lived millions of years ago.
Person2: Neato.

>>6684743
Sorry, but that metaphor is a giant pile of horseshit. Try again.

>>6684739

I meant, artificial or naturally occuring.

Fucking hell, /v/ and /religion/ in the same thread. Get the fuck out, please.

Christian Logic: God made the Bible, the Bible is infalliable because God made it.

Atheist Logic: Nothing is set in stone. What was fact yesterday could be debunked tomorrow. All that matters is accepting when you are wrong about the nature of the universe.

I almost teared up when Leliana began singing that elven mourning song in Dragon Age.
I also popped a boner when she started complimenting Morrigan's features.

>>6684746

In the sake of fairness, when we say Christian in these things, we are referring to hardcore biblebelt retards, not the masses of Christians who understand that the Bible isn't a historical document and more a set of guidelines on how to be Excellent to each other and not be a Dick or an Asshole.

>>6684764
God didn't make the bible. It's written by a bunch of faggots who weren't even there. It's a third-hand account of vague events.

Interesting... Interesting... Even a Tali ass thread is susceptible to poorly constructed religious trolling.

And now the thread's gone to hell.

Why the fuck can't you faggots just ignore religious debates. They're ALWAYS trolling you.

>>6684779

Wasn't 90% of the bible lost and then rewritten by Constantine after Rome burnt anyway?

It's like 90 to 100% completely made up by some roman dude centuries after the fact.

>>6684764
God did not make the Bible, its a collection of written works that were approved by the Catholic church. There are other writings that go with it, some are around still, some are destroyed, and some were banned.

There is no one who thinks the bible was made by god or even written by him.

>>6684662

Wouldn't it be

Christian Logic: A great chief must exist to have made it.

Atheist Logic: I have never seen let alone meet the chief so therefore he doesn't exist. This pizza just came about from random or natural events.

>>6684793

Except we know that pizzas are made by chefs.

>>6684799

And it's pretty damn easy to prove as well.

>pizza made by chief
>chief
>CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF CHIEF

CHEF HAS NO I IN IT

>>6684799

and not chiefs

>>6684809

Well, sometimes the pizza is made by the head of the org, at which point, a chief makes a pizza, but it's not relevant.

>>6684822
the chief chef?

>>6684768

You don't seem to understand. If you believe in any form of a god you must be a bible thumping Christian. If you have any doubt that a some form of god exist you must be rabid Atheist.

It is impossible for to have anything in between silly.

>>6684784

This almost always happens because some people believe that Ashley is bible thumper. Most of their reasoning is just projecting though.

>>6684791

So it's more like:

ATHEIST LOGIC:

Person 1: This pizza is good. Clearly the chef was given instructions by the greatest chef in the history of ever, who also invented the concept of cuisine.

Person 2: Yes.

ATHEIST LOGIC:

Person 1: This pizza is good. Why do you think that is?

Person 2: It could be that the chef was skilled, or it could be the quality of the ingredients, or it might be the condition of the oven and the other equipment, and so on and so forth.

Person 1: Do you think the chef who made it was taught by the greatest chef in the history of ever, who also invented the concept of food?

Person 2: That seems highly unlikely, since I doubt anyone can be said to have "invented" the concept of food, but we'd have to interview the chef to find out.

Person 1: The chef has been dead for 2000 years.

Person 2: THEN WHO WAS PIZZA?!

>Your morality will affect your appearance, with renegade behaviour worsening Shepard's scarring and facial implants.

Yes! I'm ready to become Cyborg-Shepard!

>>6684793
Exept that it would be just ignorant, because you can walk into the kitchen and see the chef. Can you walk into the heaven or whatever and see God? I don't think so sistah

>>6684845
I lol'd

>>6684845

FUCK I MEANT THAT FIRST ONE TO SAY CHRISTIAN LOGIC

Pizza metaphors over.

Here is how it works:

Religion believes that because apples are edible, or because we breathe oxygen and the atmosphere just happens to be full of oxygen, OMG DESIGN
In reality, we all know the reverse is true. Religions simply confuse cause and effect.

>>6684838
>implying that there might be, somewhere, a non-rabid atheist

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So if you replace chef with some form of god and pizza with universe it doesn't work?

>>6684870
Hi.

>>6684872

That's generally the best way to attack an anology or metaphor.

>>6684872

Well of course not. God doesn't exist, and the universe does.

Of course, if you subscribe to soliphism, then the universe doesn't exist either, which means that not only DOES god no exist, but YOU are he, since you are the only real thing within the univers and therefore nobody else COULD be.

Ultimately, it's not what you believe, it's how much of an asshole you are about it.

>>6684870
There aren't.

If you are an atheist, it means you just find theist shenanigans silly, that is all.

If we'll ever get proof of God existance, atheists will be like: "Well, tough luck, he does exist, that's a curious coincidence"

And if there will be a proof that God does not exist, theists will always go: "That's not a proof at all, God is allmighty and his ways and bla bla bla bla bla". Religion has thousands of years of experience in making it deny-proof, so ignorant fucks would donate to Church over and over.

THREAD RUINED

GO HOME

>>6684913

> If you are an atheist, it means you just find theist shenanigans silly, that is all.

> If we'll ever get proof of God existance, atheists will be like: "Well, tough luck, he does exist, that's a curious coincidence"

That's agnostic.

Atheists would believe that whatever is proved to be God is just tricking everyone.

See, this is why we shouldn't talk about any video games other than dorf fortress.

It turns us into /v/, with all it's silly religious shenanigans.

>>6684975
You do have a point actually

While discussing lore in video games, we should be careful not to get too close to /v/ shithole.

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>>6684990

I'm not even sure how it made it this far. It started with the usual claim that Ashley is nothing but, a religious bigot. Then people started to project.

>>6684637
"Clasified?" Gigant srimp shaped ship attacks citadel . lold

>>6685067

I agree all the galaxy know about the Necrons !!!

>>6685067
I wonder how many extranet conspiracy theorists will be shouting about how the Citadel's attack was an inside job.

"See? They clearly got in from an internal mass relay disguised as a decorative statue! And then Shepard came through the same way? Coincideeeeeence?"

Apparently Garrus will either be a Spectre or head of C-Sec according to how you do the mission with that psycho doctor who grows extra sets of organs inside of people.