Well not right now it isn't.

I suppose we'll just have to wait and see if the GM gets back and makes another thread.

So...uh, plane's discussion?

Oh well, might as well use the opportunity to dump pictures of fighter planes.

Why the hell do my picture uploads keep failing?

Anyway, re-posting some of the options given by the Planes Quest GM:

Company Profiles:

Advantage Flight Solutions
HQ: UAE
Budget: Large
Access: Global
ROE: Restrictive
Advantage is a big name player, and is traded on the stock markets. Top flight benefits make it appealing, but expect HR to talk your ear off about 'unacceptable casualties'

Showtime Flight Services
HQ: Australia
Budget: Moderate
Access: European Defense
ROE: Moderate
Showtime is the brainchild of Harold "Hog" Blackburn, a former RAAF pilot. You won't be asked to do anything morally reprehensible, and the parties are great, but the paycheque isn't great.

Executive Outcomes
HQ: Capetown, SA
Budget: Limited
Access: Former Soviet Bloc
ROE: What Hospital?
Executive Outcomes does the jobs no one else will take. Calling their aircraft flightworthy is a stretch, but you're only required to get the job done, no strings attached.

Air America
HQ: Virginia, USA
Access: American Defense
Budget: Excessive, suspiciously so
ROE: Variable
This sleek and all American operation works 24/7 to make the world a safer place for Americans. You get paid handsomely, but the moneypot almost seems too full.

Rusforce
Budget: A case of Vodka and a two for one Frozen yogurt coupon.
ROE: Liberal
Access: Soviet Bloc

Achmed's Discount Air Service
HQ: A cave, well furnished with rugs and betamax!
ROE: DIE INFIDELS!
Access: We offer the ENTIRE range of fighter combat aircraft from Cessna and Piper! For you, I make special price!
Budget: Two Camels and my third wife, but no more, you are bleeding me dry, how do I feed my children! What? Fine, Three Camels, my third wife and this watch, but that is my last offer! What? No! How dare you accuse me of cheating you, FOLEX is quality brand name watch!

Pilot Specialization :

General:
Air to Mud
Jack of All Trades
Air to Air

Specialties:
"Burner Bastard" Allows you to disengage at will from an ACM situation.
"Lead Storm" Cannon ata
"Iron Rain" Unguided munitions atg
"I got tone!" Heat seeking ata
"Paint Melter" Radar Guided ata
"He'll fly right by us!" Can be used to increase your decel rate, (ACM)
"Rounds on the Ground" Cannon Strafing
"Where do you think you're going" Interception and ACM engagement ability
"Mission ain't over yet" Fuel conservation
"Stop blowing holes in my plane!" defensive bonus Ground Fire
"Keep up with this" defensive bonus ACM
"Light up the sky" defensive bonus Flares
"Aluminum Cloud" defensive bonus chaff
"Lost in the Noise" defensive bonus chaff
"Dim the fires and stop the tires" landing roll bonus
"Radar Wizard" spot bonus radar
"Mk 1 Eyeball" spot bonus visual/identification

Bumping with the profiles of the five player characters submitted last thread:

Name: Sajjad Azam
Callsign: "Prophet"
Nationality: Pakistani
Age: 37
Flight Experience: 14 years in Pakistani Air Force
Aircraft: Mirage III
Specialization: Air to Air
Abilities: "I got tone!"; "Keep up with this"

Name: Jack Morrison
Callsign: "Flapjack"
Nationality: Canadian
Age: 30
Prior flight experience: fighter pilot, Flight Lieutenant, Canadian Forces Air Command
Aircraft: Canberra (Electronic Warfare variant)
Specialization: Jack of All Trades
Abilities: "Radar Wizard"; "Mk1 Eyeball"

Name: Panas Ivanov
Callsign: "Jackpot"
Nationality: Russian
Age: 31
Aircraft: Mirage III
Specialization: Jack of All Trades
Abilities: "Where do you think you're going?"; "I got tone!"

Name: Wang-Chu Perron.
Callsign: "Gato"/"Ekis"
Nationality: Mexico.
Age: Too old for this.
Aircraft: Blackburn Buccaneer
Specialization: Air to Mud
Abilities: "Light up the sky";Stop blowing holes in my Plane!"

Name: Tom Nicholls
Callsign: "Lofty"
Nationality: Australia
Age:22
Flight Experience: Cropdusting. Since age 15
Specialization: Air to Mud
Abilities: "Mk.1 Eyeball"; "Iron Rain"

Well finally my picture upload!

I am so sorry, my city had a power failure for 5 hours, or at least my section did.

If people still want to play, I will run it.

Achmed's Discount Air Service...

Holy Shit, is that a division of Crazy Hassan?

What is the max players?

Looks more like his evil twin to me. Do you honestly think Hassan would condone ruthless acts of any sort?

No, Hassan would be that strange guy in the black market that everybody whispers about who can get you ANYTHING, no matter how strange/rare/exotic/esoteric it might be, all delivered straight to you on camel-back. Delivery free of charge of course.

>>13013903
There also needs to be a Crazy Zaeed's Discount Unconventional Weapons Emporium, then.

>HQ: A cave, well furnished with rugs and betamax!
>betamax

I chortled.

Where is Sukhoi? She generally likes these threads, especially when someone talks rubbish about planes.

>>13013878
OP! I recognize the trip! I am willing to play!

>>13013976

If he's asking about the one that me and Sukhoi mentioned, they've got a thread running right about here-

http://s1.zetaboards.com/PlanesAndMercs/index/

That's where all the PAM stuff is compiled, lots of modifications to Mercenary Air Squadron mainly.

Get this shit outta here, plane circlejerks are not /tg/ related.

>>13013997
Hey, fuck you, this is a quest thread, and plane dumps can be RPG related.

>>13013878
I'm still here, anyway. I don't know about the others.

>>13013878
Oh SWEET!

Thanks for coming back GM!

I dunno about some of the others, but I'm here and I;m game.

>>13013974
You have to know how to summon her.

THE SU-27 FLANKER IS SOVSHIT AND THE F-35 JSF CAN FLY CIRCLES AROUND THAT OUTDATED PIECE OF JUNK!

Now, we simply wait.

>>13013997
Just make something more interesting, and we'll be sure to abandon this "circlejerk" of ours for it. Remembering the reception P&M has had from it's conception, though, I think you just might be shit outta' luck. So while we're waiting for something more interesting to come up... well, go have a good ol' cry, that'll relieve the bitter disappointment. And a chick flick and a bucket of ice cream, maybe? To soothe those insulted sensibilities of yours.

>>13014031
>Reception Planes and Mercs

Yup

>>13014014
What do we really call Lofty, though?
Rookie? Kid? "Hey, New Guy!"?

>>13014015
I hope you have made your peace with god.

I'm in. Being sick only increases the amount of time the internet takes from my day

>>13013997

>>13014043
Short?

>>13014062
"Short Stack"

>>13014036
The grand irony of this is of course that we no longer have the original campaign reports to enjoy, so the best we can substitute it with is a quest. I have expectations for this one, though, due to it's subject and source of inspiration.

Not to pile pressure on the OP, but I'll be monitorin'~

>>13014015

But it's true :3

>>13014049
By the way, I gotta complement you on your choice of the Piper Enforcer and the Dragonfly.

Solid choices, there.

Ruski's still here.

When last we left, you had chosen to work for showtime, right?

>>13014091
I thought it kind of fitting for an ex cropduster looking for a bit more adventure. Plus, how many hardpoints did you get on those wings? Pfft add 4 more is a fun design philosophy

>>13014100
Yup.

Interesting backstory note:
Jack Morrison's callsign was awarded to him when he was in the Canadian Air Command, for his almost unhealthy obsession with pancakes.
The man loves his flapjacks and maple syrup, which usually leads to him spending hours in the gym in order to stay within weight requirements.

WHEN PHANTOMS FLY, MIGS DIE

What is lofty flying?

>>13014128
Am I doing it wrong?

>>13014163

Can't hear you over my tone.

>>13014152
A-37B Dragonfly

>>13014102
I know a couple of prop planes you might also be interested in.

This one in particular, especially if you can get a cannon ball turret on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Rockwell_OV-10_Bronco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5q-s7ujJIw

Some one care for some entertainment?

How's my flying back there?

>>13014167
>F-14 in the background
You are not playing fair.

>>13014168
Cool Beans.

Ok, give me a couple minutes and I'll write up two contracts you guys can pick from.

>>13014186

Better get that hand welding looked at.

all it takes is a proxy fuse and your tail is gone.

>>13014177
Ooo now you're making me a little indecisive. However, the dragonfly has twice the bombload so I reckon I'm all set if I can get a dragonfly

>>13014109
On a related note, I have compiled a listed soundtrack just for sessions like this:

Solar Angels - Judas Priests
Don't Stop Me Now - Queen
Radar Rider - Jerry Riggs
Highway to the Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins (Naturally)
SWAT Kats Season 2 Theme
How Far to Paradise (Version 2) - Derek Jackson
The A-Team Theme (Full Version)
I'm On A Boat - The Lonely Island ft. T-Pain (For carrier-based missions)

Any other suggestions?

>>13014233
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_fJ5SSV_Vo

Hard as Iron - Judas Priest (even has sonic booms as part of the song)

>>13014208
Probably best.

Though the option is still there in case you need to do light ground attack AND carry a couple of paratroopers.

>>13014258
Rescue team? Maybe when we cash up I can get a couple of ex-kgb guys in case you fast movers get shot down

Well, "Breaking the Law" seems appropriate, being mercenaries and all. But since you're flying pretty aged hardware, this might be even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilmoBkcU7cE

Mission Contract #1
Location Colombia
Description: The Colombian government is contracting out a strike on an entrenched drug plantation and processing facility.
Threat level: Low-Moderate

Mission Contract #2
Location: Taiwan
Description: The ROC is offering a coastal patrol contract to protect their surface interdiction ships working to stop human trafficking.
Threat Level: Low

Mission Contract #3
Location Burma
Description: Amnesty International is organizing a direct action against a Burmese political prison camp, and requires both air cover and air support.
Threat Level: Moderate

>>13014272
Possibly. You can also use it for carrier-based ops.

I'd suggest getting the OV-10M for the upgraded engine, propellers and avionics.

I like #2, though of course the threat level is only low. So, #2 or 3 will do.

>>13014307
Oh god what-

"What heats up the daughter, the mother and the late granny too?
What eats an inch per hour out of your shoe soles?
What most effectively destroys brain cells?
What attracts more flies than poop?
What attracts krauts more than the lebensraum?
What attracts teenagers more than glue?

HUMPPA!"

>>13014363
Wow.

The first two contracts seem reasonable enough.

But the third one is SERIOUSLY tempting for me because I find it hilarious that we'd be hired by Amnesty International, also the chance that we might get in a tussle with the Myanmar Air Force (they have J-7s and Mig-29s).

>>13014363
If threat level and pay level correspond, go for Burma.

Generally just hog for the money, I says.

MiG-29's are going to rip us apart, aren't they?

>>13014363
>Amnesty International hiring a band of mercenaries to run air cover for a prison break in a dictatorial shithole country.

Steve?

>>13014410
... no. Just no. If we start to explore that possibility, only paranoia will follow.

Well, maybe paranoia and a whole lot of awesome, and a possible "thread deleted by CIA"-interdiction. But still.

>>13014410
Oh god... This thought had not occurred to me...

>>13014410

I don't get it. :(

>>13014363
#2 looks like an easy babysitting job, with maybe China coming around to play chicken with us.

#1 sounds like it should be easy, with a very lax RoE.

#3 better pay good, with the air threat and with so much chance for collateral damage to occur.

>>13014405
>Generally just hog for the money, I says.

Y'know I'm tempted to add The Beatles' "Money to the soundtrack.

>>13014438
Steve was the GM of the original Planes & Mercs Campaign. A damn good one at that. Known for some pretty awesome scenarios.

Ahh, cool.

>>13014450
When it comes to money, especially the Liberian situation in the original Planes and Mercs, I turn to one song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEbE3fGfF-o

>>13014438
Steve was the GM for the original Planes and Mercs campaign. His attention to detail and convoluted plotlines caused tg to come to the conclusion that Steve was secretly running CIA or some other national intelligence agency's (most likely Canadian Security Intelligence Agency) wargames, using his players to simulate certain case scenarios.

Personally I'm throwing in my vote for #3.

My character would be quite familiar with both the J-7 (Pakistani Air Force) and the MiG-29 (Indian Air Force). It might give him an edge in this scenario.

>>13014438
He's actually a search term on suptg

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=steve

>>13014464
And there was a lot of evidence dug up that suggested the guy was definitely linked into the intel world somehow.

Given the danger apparent in the third contract I was wondering if it might be too late to change my aircraft for a SAAB Draken.

I might just need the additional edge in agility and the two extra missiles.

Well, let's do Mission #3 then.

I'd rather avoid anything to do with china, I don't think they'd worry about using mercs as target practice in a military exercise. Burma sounds like it could be the trick though. Columbia seems like a cakewalk though

I'm seeing some scattered discussion, Burma seems popular, but there have been votes for the other two as well.

>>13014459
Y'know I completely forgot to add that.

List so far:
Solar Angels - Judas Priest
Hard As Iron - Judas Priest
Don't Stop Me Now - Queen
Radar Rider - Jerry Riggs
Holy Diver - Dio (I can't believe I nearly forgot this song existed.)
Highway to the Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins (Naturally)
SWAT Kats Season 2 Theme
How Far to Paradise (Version 2) - Derek Jackson
The A-Team Theme (Full Version)
I'm On A Boat - The Lonely Island ft. T-Pain (For carrier-based missions)
"Oh No You Didn't" (Mercenaries 2 Song)


>>13014524
Can I get a confirmation of the possibility of changing my plane, GM?

If the GM allows some changing, I'd like to go with the F-4M FGR Mk2 Phantom II.

My Specialisations would change to "Where do you think you're going?" and "Burner Bastard".

>>13014593
Given our final choice of company the GM said our options were limited to these (European Defense):
Draken
British Electric Lightning
Hawker Hunter
Blackburn Buccaneer
Canberra
Mirage III

>>13014593
Kind of locked in at this point to what you chose before.

Sorry. Maybe an upgrade later on after a mission or two.

Alrighty. Wasn't the Phantom II used in the United Kingdom too, though?

>>13014606
That general era of aircraft, yes. That is based on your starting company, and your funds. There are other aircraft from the region/time period that you could choose as well, I tossed those planes up as a guideline/list to make things easier to pick.

>>13014617
Understood.

But I am seriously nervous with the possibility of MiG-29s.

In any case, I suppose we've decided on the third contract. Can we get a list of available munitions and the like to choose are loadout for the mission?

Also, how much would a drop tank cost?

Also, I'll go with the Mirage IIIC in that case. Lower Max Speed, but HP and better Acceleration looks nice.

>>13014617
Okay.

The Canberra can be equipped with Red Top heatseakers; should I put those on, or should I go with anti-ground bombs in case we need to keep some Burmese vehicles away?

>>13014653
Given the threat level on this mission I suppose you and I are gonna be flying overwatch.

Based on funds, you have access to most munitions up to the end of the Vietnam era available to you. For the time being you can probably only mount western munitions until you get some cash under your belt to get universal hardpoints. Try to stick with a load out that your aircraft would have actually had (Magics for the Mirages, etc)

I'm not too picky, just don't put eleventy billion missiles on your aircraft, keep it realistic, in the spirit of planes and mercs.

As to drop tanks, you won't require them this time.

This thread is now about Su-30MKM.

Another question: the maximum load limit on the Mirage III is 10, which would equal 20 AIM-9's. I suppose there's some sort of hardpoint maximum in place though isn't there?

Well, I'm gonna go with the internal minigun, 4 napalm tanks and 4 rocket pods then. Delicious napalm. i'll TRY to keep it away from the amnesty people, i promise

>>13014686
In which case I'll invest my money on the best pair of AIM-9 Sidewinders I can find plus a Matra R530 for medium range.

>>13014701
4 Aim-9s or Magics + Centreline ordnance is a general Mirage III loadout.

>>13014701
Wait, how many missles can you have on a Mirage III, exactly?

My references say about three max, but there appear to be two more hard points used for drop tanks. Can they mount missiles as well?

>>13014727
In that case I'll take FOUR Sidewinders AND a Matra R530.

Okay. I'll just go with the same load-out as Prophet, he seems to know a lot more about these things than me.

If we could take 4x AIM-9L's that'd be nice, wouldn't it? :P

Dinner first now though. See you in a bit.

>>13014686
Canberra EW-variant with:
2x 7.62 machine gun pods
2x Matra rocket pods
2x AS-30L air-to-ground missiles
9x 500lb unguided bombs

Is that too much?

... gosh. So many MISS-9's.

Ah, well. I have my case of beer and my big plate of BBQ ribs, so come hell or high water, I'm ready for it.

On a side note I am now more motivated to get to assembling my 1/100 Dasault Mirage IIIC Tamiya model.

With regard to the mission I've found a map indicating the airbases of the Myanmar Air Force.

That way have a better idea of how long until we get company.

>>13014776
Aim-9Ds or Magic 2s at your pay level.

>>13014808
On that note:
Mirage III
4 x AIM-9 Sidewinders
1 x Matra R530

>>13014808
That's fine.

>>13014847
>>13014854
Editing accordingly:

Mirage IIIC with:
4 x AIM-9D Sidewinders
1 x Matra R530

>>13014867
Thanks.

Alright guys, I've got nothing but an anti-ground loadout and ECM. I'm going to depend on you guys to keep any fighters off of me.

>>13014808
Christ Lofty, that's one hell of a loadout. You worried about Ze Germans?

>>13014895
you and me both

I love it, two heavily loaded bomber/attack aircraft, protected by mach 2 lawn darts fighting for Amnesty International in the skies over Burma. And one of the bombers is loaded with napalm.

>>13014937
lots of napalm

>>Yes captcha, moral bargus indeed

>>13014937
>Mach 2 Lawn Dart

Best description of the Mirage III I can think of. Well played.

Just to sum it up, we've got four planes for this mission with:

"Prophet"
Mirage IIIC:
4 x AIM-9D Sidewinders
1 x Matra R530

"Jackpot"
Mirage III (Which version do you have, by the way?):
4 x AIM-9D Sidewinders
1 x Matra R530

"Flapjack"
Canberra EW-variant:
2x 7.62 machine gun pods
2x Matra rocket pods
2x AS-30L air-to-ground missiles
9x 500lb unguided bombs

"Lofty"
4 x Napalm tanks
4 x Rocket pods (19 rockets each)

>>13014956
Don't forget that the dragonfly has an integral minigun
1× .308 in (7.62 mm) GAU-2B/A minigun (mounted in nose)

>>13014895
>>13014916
I'll do my best, guys.

Thank goodness I got the AtA heatseeker perk.

Since I got a bomber, perhaps I should have gotten the "Iron Rain" or some other ground-attack perk.
But I plan on upgrading to a better EW frame when the money becomes available, so I guess it should be okay.

>>13015000
LOL!

Love the pilot's expression.
"Got Damnt!"

>>13014972
Well that's a given. Both Mirages have internal guns as well.

And I found the perfect representation of for your plane and loadout: http://hsfeatures.com/features04/a37dwa_1.htm

>>13015000

"The Wind in my face, thats what war is about, Hans."

>>13015028
legend. Cool cool all set to bomb some jungle then?

>>13015047
As soon as the GM and Jackpot get back.

>>13012833
You now realise that Ace Combat 7 has been delyed because they've been trying to get info on this plane.

>>13015000
Oh, beautiful.

"Scheiss, not again. Jurgen, hand me ze goggles."

"Nein. Too busy admiring ze view."

Something to tide us by in the meantime.

Bill and John!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wEURyjB3Lc
Episode II!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDHQjTxDRYk&feature=fvw

God I love Bill and John.

>>13014956

I'm using the Mirage IIIC as I stated earlier.

>>13015096
Never fails to entertain.

>>13015195
Gotcha.

Love this clip.
"If you shoot my tank one more time..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIrkAiQfhss

>>13015096

Oh god. I lol'ed.

>>13015248
Fucking Win.

I thought the tank was going to loose a round into the snipers position, but then, sonic boom and suddenly: JDAM OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE!

Real men fly slavshit only.

>>13015252
I'm not sure who my hero is, Bill, Tom, or the AGM-65...

>>13015293

Bill.

That made me think. Wouldn't it be cool if we could do these missions on a... dare I say... /v/idyagame?

>>13015347
Well, an RPG or campaign demands that the GM give subtle perks to the players. Thats hard to do in a videogame.

>>13015333
Bill is a true PC.

I wonder if the GM had another power outage.

>>13015373
Are we still conducting the "summon Sukhoi" ritual?

>>13015403
Might be. He's propably scouting a third-world theater at the moment.

>>13015403
When you have one city wide power outage, you're bound to have another. Also, since I"m finally up, I'll be joining this mission for a bit. Feel free to load my plane with iron dumb bombs, a Buckland Buccanneer. Use me as a bomb-bot right now, since I have errands to run, to strike at any AA, and have the napalm buy block off roads and create smoke cover.

Everyone is back? Not waiting on anyone?

>>13015417
no, just passing by, posting jets

>>13015493
Don't think so.

>>13015493

I'm here.

>>13015493
here

Here.

Allright listen up, this isn't an easy one, but I like your pluck and I think you lot are gonna give the Burmese a black fuckin eye followed by a swift kick to the gentlemen's berries.
So here's the situation, Amnesty has hired a group of ex-paras to run a snatch and grab on a Burmese prison camp located roughly near Hpasmng. Bloody hard to fly in that area, almost as hard as it is to say it. Looking at some mountains, valleys, rivers, and a whole lot of tree coverage.
Now, the Burmese aren't expecting this, and the paras have unit pre-positioned, but the moment those Frelons come a knockin, all hell is going to come loose. That's where you come in. You will be in communication with the paras. You keep the local militia at bay, and protect the Frelons until they are back in Thai airspace. No fancy heroics on this one, in out, beers in the mess hall. Got it? Questions?

>>13015652
"Are we clear to engage if any hostiles fire on friendlies? Any specifics on RoE we should keep in mind?
And is this at night, or during the day?"

What sort of resistance are we looking at? Anti-Air emplacements, enemy fighter planes?

>>13015466
Dude! Better late than never!

>>13015652
*raises hand*

"Yes, how far is the nearest Burmese airbase and what kind of fighters do they have stationed there? "

>>13015722
"Second question: Where will we be taking-off from and do we have an alternate landing zone?"

>>13015652
Radio contact with paras? likely direction the militia will come from?

(Out of character)

By the way, since Gato gave us permission, are we gonna be using him as an NPC on this mission?

In which case here's the potential armament for his plane:

Hardpoints:
4× under-wing pylon stations & 1× internal rotating bomb bay with a capacity of 12,000 lb (5,400 kg) and provisions to carry combinations of:
Rockets: 4× Matra rocket pods with 18× SNEB 68 mm rockets each
Missiles: 2× AIM-9 Sidewinders for self-defence, 2× AS-30Ls or 2× AS-37 Martel missiles or 2× Sea Eagle missile
Bombs: Various unguided bombs, Laser-guided bombs, as well as the Red Beard or WE.177 tactical nuclear bombs[9]
Other: AN/ALQ-101 ECM protection pod,AN/AVQ-23 Pave Spike Laser designator pod, Buddy refuelling pack or Drop tanks for extended range/loitering time


I think we ought to equip him with the two Sidewinders and then give him all rockets or a mix of rockets and dumb bombs.

>>13015810

Yeah, lots of rockets and some napalm. Sidewinders for personal defense.

>>13015706
ROE are standard fare, do not fire unless fired upon, or if directed to fire by friendly ground units. An exception is that threats to the Frelons may be preemptively engaged should they constitute a clear and present danger to the operation.
>>13015719
We have not identified any anti-air but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Information on the region is poor at best. Fighter support will likely be slow in coming, if the cross border raid occurs with enough rapidity you should be in and out before their fighter units go wheels up. Patrolling aircraft are a different matter though.
>>13015749
(Chiang Mai Airfield. Your aircraft have been pre-positioned)
>>13015767
Correct, you will be in radio contact, page six of your document lists frequencies, go-codes, and encryption. As to where the militia may come from, we won't know until they show up.

>>13015810
Can you put rockets in the internal bay? Either way you seem to know a lot more about arial weapons then the rest of us, so load him up

I think Prophet should be team lead. :P

>>13015845
Agreed. Also I think that we need a team name and mascott

>>13015845
No argument from me.

I think we have most of the information we need. Anyone think of anything else we should ask?

Not really. Make sure you don't forget your beer.

Or vodka.

>>13015873
dw mate I got a case in the co-pilot seat. nothing like throwing the empty cold one into the flames from your napalm

>>13015830
Gato
Buccaneer (I presume S.2)
2 x AIM-9D Sidewinders
2 x Rocket pods (18 rockets each)
2 x Napalm tanks

>>13015845
>>13015854
>>13015858
Well...I didn't expect this to happen.

I propose that if we're called in for air support Gato ought to lead and ground strikes with Lofty taking up the rear to clean up.

Flapjack ought to stay as back up as he'll be most useful as EW support.

As said earlier me and jackpot will be flying overwatch looking out for any aircraft.

Sounds good. Time for take-off?

>>13015873
That's the spirit!

Ok, the paras will begin their assault when you are 5 minutes from entry into the combat area. Good luck, and go give those Bastards a right proper bollocking.

>>13015912
just realizing that me and gato have only rockets for hard targets, flapjack is the only one with iron bombs. So lets hope they don't have anything we can't burn to death

>>13015933
Well I would like it if we got a map of the area of operations, but I suppose I can just use my imagination if we can't.

With regard to the Op, me and Jackpot will be flying a bit high for overwatch, naturally. We'll circle the area and look out for any incoming air threats.

By the way, I presume the paras will be ex-filtrating by land. Is that right, Harold? Will we need to escort them back to Thailand?

>>13015981

I'm under the impression they'll use the helis, and that we'll have to escort those.

>>13015963
I doubt we'll encounter anything that some rockets won't be able to take down.

It's a prison camp, there won't likely be any armor close by. The biggest threat will likely be light vehicles.

Maybe, MAYBE we might have to send Flapjack to flatten a building or two.

>>13015981
Negative, the paras will be using airborne extraction.

>>13016057
Well okay then.

All we need to do is get in, provide air support, escort the package back to Thai airspace and then land.

Trollface.jpg

"What could go wrong?"

>This thread

>>13016076
Oh, and yes, let's proceed with the mission.

>>13016084

No time like the present.

I may be out of ribs, but I still have beer. And by jove, am I monitoring this thread.

Sandbag Flight, this is dagger, we're engaging the enemy forces at the compound, light resistance so far! We've identified a short range air defense system parked on the road in, looked like a Gaskin, we didn't hit the crew, but we left a time fuse smoke flare, look for green smoke. Davis, get some covering fire on that building dammit! Right, if we need support, we'll call for it, or pop smoke.

Alright, sounds like I'll be flying high and in the back.

Just call on me if you need something flattened.

Nothing really interesting for me and Prophet so far, eh. Best we gain some altitude and keep circling the area.

>>13016217
>>13016223
>>13016240
"Right. Gato, Lofty circle on low altitude and stand by to provide air support. Keep a look out for enemy reinforcements."

"The rest of us will keep back and move when we are needed."

"Flapjack keep a look out for any incoming aircraft."

If I can have a d10 roll from everyone please, we shall start turn 1.

>>13016217
Should Lofty take out that SAM, or should I?

If any active radar comes on, I'll fire up the ECM.

rolled 2 = 2

>>13016274
Here goes.

rolled 42 = 42

>>13016274
Rolling.

>character thriert

I'm pretty sure the captcha is trying to tell me something.

rolled 4 = 4

Ta-da.

rolled 9 = 9

>>13016284

*Facepalm*

One zero too many...rolling again.

rolled 10 = 10

Oh yeah, we also need to roll for Gato.

Since I'm team lead I suppose I'll do it.

I hope he forgives me if I screw this up.

Prophet, you spot not only the smoke, but way out in the distance you can see something moving over the river, probably airborne.

>>13016298
>>13016322
>9
>10

Well...huh.

>>13016340
"All points, be advised, I spot multiple contacts moving over the river."

"Jackpot, you and I will investigate. Flapjack, keep ready on the radar and standby to activate electronic counter-measures."

>>13016367

"Roger that Prophet. On your six."

I'm just an observer here, since I love Planes and Mercs, but don't you guys think that the SAM might be something you should deal with? A Gaskin launches missiles.

*out of character*

By the way, Lofty are you still here?

>>13016390
It's got a time bomb on it, so long as we have the ground strikers stay clear until it goes off, things should be fine.

>>13016410
>but we left a time fuse smoke flare

Looks like they only marked it for you...

Goddamn. I had given up on /tg/ and now I find a variant of Planes and Mercs on my first day back in a month!

>>13016410
Which reminds me:

"Ground, status report on that Gaskin?"

"Has the bomb gone off, yet?"

>>13016415
OOC: Yep, we're going to have to take care of it.

Dammit, I am missing out!

>>13016410
>>13016415
>>13016426
D'oh!

In which case we should have Gato take it out since he's morel likely to avoid a hit.

Gm can we use that 10 I rolled for him?

>>13016410
Yeah sozza. Net died for a sec there.

rollan ( I think)

>>13016441
How does I roll dice? I've never actually used them on /tg/ before

You type roll+1d10 in the E-mail box.

Dammit, you guys are going to hate me, but I just got called in for an emergency shift, so I'm unavailable for the next eight hours. (2200 CST I will be back)

I will be on tomorrow (0800 CST) if you want to continue then as well. Tell me what you would prefer. Oh and if someone could archive this thread, I do not know how.

Prophet: You have radios, your wingmen know what you know, only one person has to spot something for everyone to have basic situational awareness of it. (I was debating rolling secondary spots with modifiers, but its a lot simpler to just say 'everyone sees it if one sees it')

>>13016445
Better make you d10 roll now.

Gato will likely take out that SAM, but you might be needed soon.

(I really should have re-read that post a second time. Oh well, first day as team leader and all that...)

tryin again

>>13016476

Hatin'.

>>13016476
Talk about a cliffhanger.

Oh well, this thread was approaching auto-sage anyway.

I suppose we should archive it for future reference. I've saved the first thread on my hard drive.

>>13016489
I figured as much... Unavoidable though. Hopefully people will gather at some point, don't even know what time zones you folks are in.

>>13016481
dice+1d10, man.

On a positive note, this has been a rather enjoyable thread/half-session.

If you guys are willing, maybe we can use the rest of the time to discuss future plans for the campaign.

>>13016498
>English Electric Lightning

There really is a pic of every western jet fighter in the world escorting one of those Russian bombers, isn't there?

>>13016498
>GMT +8:00, it's 3:34 am on a Saturday here.

Don't sweat it GM, I understand. It was an enjoyable session regardless. Looking forward to the next one.

rolled 7 = 7

ah so thats what I was messing up. good to know.
Well I guess I could start a low run on the sam with flapjack staying back in case any radars start popping up on the ground

>>13016523
Wow. You even posted a picture of one from where I live.

>>13016498

Not really hatin'.

Oh and yeah, dice+1d10, sorry.

Looking forward to the next session.

Oh, GMT+1:00 here. It's 20:37 or 8:37PM on Friday.

>>13016523
I don't know.

>>13016523
Well, you know the bears. They wander everywhere they can smell food in. Which means quite playinly everywhere across the globe.

I swear, there's a picture of a Sopwith Camel escorting one out of the airspace somewhere.

Should we swap out e-mails?

xxlebox yahoo com is one you can reach me one.

rolled 1 = 1

I'm on a lot, I mostly just lurk though. But you can bet if I see this thread again I'll be back

>>13016557
I mean, every western fighter?

>>13016536
Better your roll for some other action, I rolled a 10 for Gato-bot and I want him to be the one to take out that SAM with rockets since he's less likely to get hit.

From the sound of it you might need to do some close-support soon.

>>13016566
That's a tall order.

>>13016576
But it is possible.

>>13016567
Ah I did forget about gato-bot. Better to use mine on the militia when they appear then

>>13016583
Even probable. :D

Another for the bear collection

>>13016523
... for a moment I was wondering how the fuck did a bear wind up in Philadelphia, before my derp subsided.

Dammit I missed it!

>>13016567
>Better save your roll

So, on to general discussion.

What planes are you guys hoping to get eventually?

I was hoping to eventually get a Desert Falcon (>>13012601) for Prophet (a big part of why I wanted to go for Advantage Flight Solutions originally).

However, if we'll be sticking with European aircraft I suppose I'll be aiming for Eurofighter, the Rafale, or the Gripen.

>>13016620
>>13016567
>>13016536
D:<

>>13016620
I'm thinking Rafale for Flapjack, though I'm open to any suggestions.

>>13016620
I hadn't really thought that far. I'll pick and choose as I get options I suppose

>>13016643
We probably need to do a bit of research on the EW capabilities of the Rafale vis-a-vis other possible aircraft.

For that matter, we need to do some research on EW aircraft from Europe, period. The only ones I know of for that job are American.

>>13016697
Thinking of the EW-variant of the Hornet that Baron piloted in the original Planes and Mercs?

>>13016713
Well there's THAT, the F-111, the A-6 and now that I think of it the F-16 Block 60 that I want to get.

Come to think of it, I don't even know any Eastern Block aircraft that are EW speced.

I need to do more research...

>>13016654
If you're thinking of learning more air-to-air I can suggest a relatively cheap and available plane to train on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aermacchi_S-211
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault/Dornier_Alpha_Jet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Hawk

From there you can probably move on to any number of strike platforms.

>>13016775

I dimmly recall from my childhood that there was some variant of the SU-24 that was set up as a EW Bird, but I don't know if that was just made up for Flight Commander 2 or if its real.

>>13016775
i figured I'd keep the air to mud role as it seems to fill the group out pretty well, plus the traits. Maybe get a phantom II or something. With lots more napalm and cluster bombs. mmmm war crimes

>>13016796

HAHA nevermind, I suck cocks, It was the Tu-16H

Hmm...after some research it looks like the Panavia Tornado takes up an EW in the Luftwaffe.

>>13016851
It's too bad that I can't think of a European equivalent for A-10. I suppose you could eventually go for a strike aircraft.

>>13016878
OH, I know!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEPECAT_Jaguar

Dedicated ground attack platform will all this:

* Guns: 2× 30 mm (1.18 in) ADEN cannons or DEFA cannons, 150 rounds/gun
* Hardpoints: 5 total: 4× under-wing and 1× center-line pylon stations with a capacity of 10,000 lb (4,500 kg) and provisions to carry combinations of:
o Rockets: 8× Matra rocket pods with 18× SNEB 68 mm rockets each
o Missiles: Anglo-French AS-37 Martel missiles
o Bombs: various
o Other: AN/ALQ-101 ECM protection pod (found only on RAF's Jaguar GR.3/3A),[15] Joint Reconnaissance Pod, external drop tanks for extended range/loitering time
* Missiles: 2× AIM-9 Sidewinders or Matra R550 Magics on overwing pylons (Jaguar International and RAF Jaguars only)

Europe doesn't prioritize tactical-size EW aircraft. Heck, the U.S.A. is actually pretty unique in that they deploy EW air assets at both the strategic (AWACS) and tactical level (individual EW craft).

Most other nations don't have the military budgets for it, and if they do, the money goes into strategic level aircraft first.

Also, a mission from AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL? So that's where my donation money is going!

>>13016909
Well no wonder I couldn't think of any.

On a side note, I've wanted to get a Su-30MKI since I was introduced to it in the original Planes & Mercs campaign.

In character however, Prophet would likely deride it for being Indian. Heh. :D

I wonder if I might be able to get JF-17 as an intermediate upgrade?

Also, for the air-to-air specialists, you may want to consider the English Electric Lightning. Excellent performance for it's age (first introduced 1959) and definitely one of the best aircraft of it's time.

>>13016878
If you are willing to accept Warsaw Pact aircraft, there is always the Su-25.

>>13016896
or maybe a Kfir?
It's pretty cheap and can hold on its own in a dogfight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-21_Kfir

>>13016964
True, but I was thinking about this:

Showtime Flight Services
HQ: Australia
Budget: Moderate
Access: European Defense
ROE: Moderate
Showtime is the brainchild of Harold "Hog" Blackburn, a former RAAF pilot. You won't be asked to do anything morally reprehensible, and the parties are great, but the paycheque isn't great.

>Access: European Defense

I'm not sure if that's just for the beginning, or if it'll be strictly European for us.

>>13016956
I was considering that, but I was concerned about its supposed short flight duration.

>>13016956
>>13017023
Also, I have a model of the Lightning reserved.

I was planning on getting it after I started building my Mirage IIIC.

...

Now that I think about it, the more appropriate the callsign I took is.

>>13017023
Hm. If you really want to bend the rules a bit, you can justify getting one by saying you got it when Germany was selling off the former East German air force.

Oh, also, it depends on what you want from an "EW" aircraft. Most tactical level EW aircraft, like the Tornado ECR, are geared for SEAD, which is essentially playing playing chicken with SAM sites...

Early SEAD aircraft literally just were bait - they'd run active while everyone else in the flight packed radar-tracking missiles, and would try to bait the SAM site into launching so their buddies could take it out. Then they'd pray they didn't get hit.

More modern SEAD aircraft can cheat a little with jamming and other forms of electronic interdiction of course. Dedicated electronic attack platforms are still rare though and only available to air forces that have big budgets because the mission is so specialized. The EA-18G Growler is pretty much the only currently serving fighter that has a mission role completely oriented for electronic attack (jamming everything).

>>13017054
Doesn't look like they had any. But they did have MiG-23s.

And re-reading this thread, >>13014617 it seems like we might be able to get from other sources eventually.

I can't believe I missed this thread.

I hope to get a Phantom II soon.

>>13017686
Will you still use in an interception role, or will you load it up with ECM?

Just letting you know, I won't be available tomorrow till 7pm PST. If he runs it early, don't forget you have Gato-bot.

P.S. - it's Chang-Wu.

>chigboy and

>>13020160
I find that picture absolutely hilarious, and very apt for my character. Just add a sombrero and we'll call it done.

Except for the spelling. The last name is Perron.

>>13017482
Same here, I love planes and mercs.

>>13020160
Dude, you blinked during your photo!

>>13020864
To follow up that one: more Cat Shit One.

>>13020160
>>13020236
Man, now I just HAVE to look for a portrait for my character.

Here's Panas.

>>13019689

I wanted to just go all-round with it. Have some AtG and some AtA capabilities. However, is it exceptionally useful in an ECM role?

>>13025299
Not especially, no. It's simply a possible option with that airframe.

Armored crew can into planes and mercs :D?

>>13025292
<--- I did a Google search for Pakistani fighter pilots, first picture I saw.

At first I thought I hit paydirt, he's even got an F-16 squadron patch, which is what my character flew in the Pakistani Air Force.

But then I realized he was too handsome, and that would have given my character Gary Stu-points.

>>13025845
I'm still trying to find a close-up picture of a Pakistani fighter pilot that says: "almost-40-domesticated-family-man-and-father-of-two."

(Mustache is ABSOLUTELY required.)

Fortunately there's apparently a lot of pictures of Pakistani fighter pilots on the Internet.

This one looks promising. Heck, he's even standing in front of a Mirage.

The pilot is a little older than I imagined Jack to be, but I think it works.

So, was OP still going to run another session at 0800 CST, or did the schedule get changed?

>>13026047
I believe he meant PM, since he indicated 22:00.

>>13026078
...

>>13026084
Bwahaha!

>>13026047
>>13026078
>>13026081
Oh that is just priceless. With a pic to boot.

In all seriousness though, OP, are you going to be running the session now, or sometime later?

>>13026136
I'd like to run something this morning, although the get up and go is a little slow, still drowsy.

I'm available for a bit.

>>13026144
Since you're here OP, I'd just like to clarify something:

Gato gave us permission to use his as an NPC on this mission, but he did so AFTER the roll call and in them middle of mission planning, but before the briefing.

I assumed that his character would be in on this mission when we started it, but upon reviewing the maps, it seems that only the four of us who came earlier are represented. (I blame my missing this on the fact that, at the time, it was 3:00 am for me.)

So, will we be able to use Gato-bot, or should we re-adjust to our play strategy to make the correction?

So we got Prophet, Jackpot, and Flapjack with Gato as Gato-bot.

>>13026214
Gato-bot is a bit ambigious right now. We ought to wait until 22:00, Lofty will likely show up by then.

Also there's the fact that this thread is close to auto-saging. The GM will likely have to start a new thread for the continuation of this mission.

Oh, last night was 2200 when i got back, I meant 0800 this morning.

As to gato, we'll see, he might show up as reserve. Assume you don't have him atm

>>13026259
In which case, I suppose we'll be sending Lofty and his 7-roll to take out that SAM.

>>13026259
Alright then. Guess I'll be on station at high altitude, ready to turn on ECM if we get pinged by active radar.
And drop 4,500lbs of high explosive on unsuspecting Burmese prison guards.

>>13026300
All the while me and Jackpot will be checking out those unknown contacts up north.

>>13026368
You know, if Amnesty International, the Salvation Army, or United Way actually funded these sorts of mercenary strike teams to make the world a better place, I'd be handing over half of my paycheck every payday.

So....where'd everyone go?

Still here.

Still here, but now I'm going to work. Don't forget about Gato Bot

>>13026380
Same dude.

Who else is playing the game on Planes and Mercs?
http://s1.zetaboards.com/PlanesAndMercs/topic/3946852/1/#new

>>13026731
Went to sleep.

>>13027390
Now that I think about it, it might be a good idea to continue this quest there or on tgchan (http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/).

Of course, then we wouldn't be able to save the threads on the archives.