As you mount your Mobile Suits up onto the Gaws, the captain asks what your flight plan will be.
He want's to know if you want to go straight to lord Garma, or if you want to stop over in California and pick up some other Mobile Suits instead.

YOUR ORDERS?

We getting our other suits or going to cali? Even though garma needs us we could use some down time to switch things around

also, beam rifles for everyone

>>9105046

For the record, the suits that you didn't take with you to Canada went back to California most likely.

>>9105078
Then i vote for a trip to cali

>>9105038

How long will it add to our flight time?

Also how pressing is Garma for more troops to arrive?

Also, FUCK YEAH! ZEONQUEST!

>>9105107

The trip to cali will probably mean that you wont arrive at Lord Garma's location near the grand canyon until early tommorow morning most likely.

>>9105107

Also, as for Lord Garma's situation, you haven't heard anything concrete, but it's been only about a day since you were last with him, so hopefully things haven't deteriorated too badly.

>>9105135

Can we send a quick communique to him?

Possible we can send some of us back to retrieve suits while we go and support him?

I'm normally against splitting our group so far... (I'm thinking the whole SPAAAACE thing we went through). But the Zanzibar Kai (Which should be ready right?) and the other MS would be a great boon.

>>9105184

Who would you want to be sending back, and who would be going to Cali?

Can't we call them to ship the suits and OUTER to meet us there?

>>9105200
That's an idea. How about we send benny? We don't really need insane anti air for this. all he has to do is say "MEET US HERE" and bam

>>9105200

I was thinking Bernie and maaaybe one other to keep an eye on him?

I'm thinking this was his first major engagement, so he might need time to wind down.

But then again, its just me thinking this.

>>9105206

But this has merit, as long as we can trust the crew to get it their in one piece... <_<

I'm for either Burnie going to get them, or them meeting us their. Either is fine

>>9105206
>>9105229
>>9105267
>>9105238

Okay, what will you be doing if the Outer Heaven isn't ready?
Also, what suits do you want them to send up to you then?

>>9105267

Think we can send Hovis or something with him?

Maybe Jolyne? I loathe to send out anyone alone. D:

>>9105302
Can we get a list of whats available?

>>9105302
Well they can send the suits in something else then, it'd just be convienet is all.

As for the suits, the Act, a regular zaku for bernie. I figure we get zol in the act and bernie in our badass Zaku's.

Before anyone goes "Bernie won't stand a chance in a zaku!" remember, all of our zakus are tuned to be a tad better then the norm, and the reason Rameriez died was because he was in the flashy, dangerous looking suit.

Also he didn't use smoke to cover his advance

As long as we get SOMEONE in the Gigan, that thing is a tiny packet of awesome.

Proposed new suit loadout:
David-dom
elane-dom
jol-dom
zol-Act
bernie- Zaku 2
hovis-rino
hobes-flipper or scout, whatever one

PS: send the beam rifles to cali, tell them to make them Dom usible

Am I the only one that misses the Zolomon antics in his Gouf?

D:

We need to up armor that thing... maybe we should ask Zol about it?

>>9105404
Normaly, yeah but it doesn't really have a use for us anymore. The only thing WB has are the 3 suits and that thing isn't really built for suit combat and their's no air for it to rape that the rino can't take care of.

>>9105421
I think the Act is faster then the gouf, but i really have no idea

Have him take whatever suit is faster, his problem before was not being able to keep up with us in the doms

>>9105346

You also havea Gouf Custom don't forget.

Okay, so you outline the plan to send Bernie and Jolyne back to the Captain, when you receive a priority signal from Ookawara.

"I could'nt help but overhear Lt.Cmmdr, and if you would be so kind, could the Pezun Dowdages get sent to California instead?"

"Why?"

"BECAUSE YOU'VE FUCKED THEM THAT'S WHY."

"What? Really?"

"Yes, Elaines entire front half is shredded and her energy distribution network is completely borked all over the place. Zolomon's shoulder is going to need a full replacement, and even if we ignore the fact that you need new Beam Emitters for your chest cannon, there's still the fact that you've managed to give your suit critical stress fractures on EVERY SINGLE JOINT."

"Uh. Okay then. How long will this take to repair?"

"3 Days. Minimum."

"I'm about to go up against the Gundam!" You protest.

"Not in these suits you aren't." Ookawar states.

Well, it looks like these suits will have to go to Cali regardless. Hmm.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9105462

AHAHAHa hee hee.... uh... Lets see um... Goufs for all? D:

>>9105421
We just need to get an EXAM system and some chain-mines/hammerguns/heat hawks and he'll be nigh unstoppable.

Though maybe not...I would feel horrible about Marion to say the least, not to mention driving Zol crazy...

>>9105462
Send the suits to Cali while we go straight to Garma, have some of the group head to cali to pick up the old suits and meet up with us.

>>9105462
In b4 when we get there we have new suits waiting for us

EL MUERTE GIGANTE RIDES AGAIN

>...we are so fucked....but I...I like it this way :3

Thank god we have unused zaku 2s

>>9105500
I like this idea, just send us they'll have some suits on hand we can use while they drop off the good ones.

>>9105483

Currently Available in your MS hangar:

2x MS-06F2 Zaku II's (El Muerto Grande and Zolomons old Desert Zaku IIRC)
1x Zaku Cannon
1x Gouf Custom
1x Act Zaku

You currently have with you:
1x Gashhia
1x Gigan
1x Rhinoceros
1x Flipper Zaku
3x Pezun Dowdages that need repair.

>>9105503

That's unlikely. Theyt have to be prepped for transport first, odds are you'll arrive before they do in all fairness.

>>9105534
Gouf act and EL MUERTE GIGANTE

Give Zol the Gouf, he loves that thing so much.

>>9105534
Stick David back in the Act Zaku and Zolomon back in the Gouf. Jo can probably stay in the Gasshia if we can get reloads for it, and Ruubens...should probably take one of the F2s.

>>9105549
I think he means new, new suits. As opposed to suits we've had before.

What is Garma's mission in the area?

Is this still gundam pursuit time?

... also Acguy.

>>9105563
>>9105571
>>9105573

Okay, so the line up would be:

You: Act Zaku
Zol: Gouf Custom
Jolyne: Gasshia

Elaine: Zaku F2?
Bernard: Gigan or Zaku F2?
Calvin: Flipper Zaku, most likely on Dodai

Hovis as usual in the Rhino.

Will you be picking up the suits personally whilst you drop off your Pezun Dowdages or not?

I wan't zol in that Act. That thing is fucking made for him even more then his gouf, faster more fluid...how does that NOT translate to a monster for zol?

jol did good in the gouf that one time, and we're so super sexy that even in EL MUERTE GIGANTE we can hold the gundam off.

However, how about we do this
Bernie- desert
Jol- gigan, gouf, geshia or her zaku cannon
David- anything
zol- gouf or act
hovis- rino, gigan
hobs is set
elane- whatever is left

>>9105617

Yes, it's only been a day since you were sent to canada after all.

>>9105619
lets take a second to talk about this, lots of options

>>9105631

For some reason, I thought it was more. <_<

>>9105619
Nah, our Bro Garma wouldn't have called us if he didn't need us. Lets get back there and send some of the others to pick up the suits.

hey zeonquest guys

I never read this thing of yours but I thought you might want to look at this image

enjoy

>>9105619
Stick Bernie in an F2 as well. Dude needs to get good with Zakus at some point.

And yeah, let's pick them up personally. I don't see why we shouldn't.

>>9105625
I too want Jol in a front line suit. She's being waisted on support and can aparently move faster then TIME

give her the gouf again

>>9105510
>EL MUERTE GIGANTE RIDES AGAIN

Suit with whom I have lived, suit with whom I will now die, serve right and justice one last time, seek one last heart of evil, still one last life of pain, cut well old friend, and then farewell.

If David is in anything besides the our good buddy, we are doing it horribly wrong.

>>9105645

That is pretty much what Char does to UC Zeon...

>>9105645
Trolltastic Zeon Assassination device? Lets send one to Amuro.

Well since we're getting the Dowdages repaired anyway, we might as well ALL go to California and pick up our suits...

Garma should be okay. :D

Right? <_<

So far we're still split on just going and using zakus there or going and getting the suits

Bernie is going to get the desert our our old suit, hovis is in the rino. Everything else is more or less undecided

>>9105534

My suggestions

David: Act Zaku (any chance it could power one of those captured beam rifles? I recall it was supposed to be a test bed for Zeon beam tech, so it might have the generator power to support one)
Zol: His Gouf, naturally.
Elaine: Probably Zol's old Desert Zaku, it's pretty heavily customized.

Jolyne: The Gasshia. It's proven it's worth I think, and it's a versatile MS.
Bernie: Gigan! Everyone wants to change him out, but he's an aircraft raping machine in it! I don't have any idea how many planes he's taken down, but it's a hell of a lot!
Hovis: Rhino, obviously.

>>9105677

I like it.

>>9105677
>Bernie: Gigan! Everyone wants to change him out, but he's an aircraft raping machine in it! I don't have any idea how many planes he's taken down, but it's a hell of a lot!

Whitebase has NO AIRCRAFT and it is to solid for the AA arms to have effect, save for the cannon

Up front Team:

David- El Muerto Gigante
Zolomon- Zol Gouf Custom
Jolyne- Gouf

Just a lil' bit back team:

Elaine- Gasshia
Bernie- Desert F2
Hovis- Rhino
Calvin- Flipper

Bring the Gigan as a backup and maybe stick a red shirt in it if we need the anti-air badly enough.

>>9105677
I'd like to see what zol can do in the Act, and jol is being waisted in that geshia. I say give the act to zol, the gouf to jol and have us take our good old suit

>>9105692

The Whitebase is an aircraft, and though obviously he's not getting through it's main hull, he can do a lot of damage to it's weapons/engines in that thing. Not to mention that they have actually DO have core fighters. Anyways, what's he gonna get in an F2 that's better than the 180mm cannon and minigun arm?

>>9105647

Okay, Bernie in an F2 as well. We can keep the Gigan on hand just in case anyway.

You, Elaine and Zolomon head down to California in one Gaw, whilst the others head towards Arizona, where Garma is.
In the aftermath of your victory in southern Canada, you're journey goes free from enemy attacks and you land after a couple of hours of travel.
The three of you dismount to allow the techs to pilot in your requested suits into the Gaw.
You are apporached by a general attache to the Test Team. You remember him from the numerous times you've worked with prototypes.

"Commander, could you sign here please?"

"What for?" You ask.

"It's to sign off for your Beam Rifle."

YOUR ACT ZAKU NOW HAS A BEAM RIFLE

Up front Team:

David- El Muerto Gigante
Zolomon- Zol Gouf Custom
Jolyne- Act

Just a lil' bit back team:

Elaine- Gasshia
Bernie- Desert F2
Hovis- Rhino
Calvin- Flipper

Bring the Gigan as a backup and maybe stick a red shirt in it if we need the anti-air badly enough.

You know what I want? a new pilot.

Who you ask? Well in canada when fighting bandit for the last time a zaku got its arm beamed off by bandit before we fucked him up. A RED SHIRT SURVIVED AN ATTACK FROM OUR RIVAL!

he has plot armor, we need him

>>9105703

I dunno, Jolyne has been our mid-range specialist this whole time, and the Gasshia is our best mid-range MS right now. Seems silly to change out her specialty at this late a date.

>>9105724
He's still up there though...

NOTE: MIP don't trust anyone OTHER than you to use one of their precious salvaged Beam Rifles in combat, and only the Act Zaku has the reactor capable of powering it.
If you give the Act Zaku to someone else, you won't be allowed to use the rifle.
At least until you can get Garma to countersign off with you.

>>9105712
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!

Who's one-shotting the enemy now, huh Feds?

>>9105712
Fuck yeah! How many shots does it carry?

>>9105712

EHEEEHEEEHEE

AHAAAHAAAHAAAHAHAHA

YESSSSS

>>9105732
Except, we've never properly used her as a mid-range specialist. Generally we've stuck her on baby sitting duty of the Rhino or providing long range fire. Her newtype ability is a close combat dream, let's give her a suit that can handle it.

>>9105712

Awesome! The Act Zaku was always supposed to be a beam weapon test bed, and with our capture of all that info and actual guns, I guess it finally is.

ALSO, I'd like to actually ask our team about their experience and opinions on the various MS we've used, see if they have any preference themselves.

>>9105732
Well she's done fine in mid range, but think of the few times she hasn't been in mid range

1) In the Z'gock she spun that thing like a top and did major damage to the fleat with little time. Those things were not made to move like that
2) in a gouf, she moved FASTER THEN A BERSERK GUNDAM and survived a CLOSE RANGE ATTACK
3) when ambushed by Night she used a slower suit to dissarm him with a limited CC weapon. SHE DISSARMED THE NIGHT FIGHT AMBUSHER.

trust me, if we put her front line, she might be as good a zol

>>9105735
We have pull, all it takes is a call

>>9105740
Well then we'll take the Act i guess.

>>9105773

This, we should ask our team, we got time right? :D

Little chat, some coffee, maybe a doughnut or two...

Some vindaloo....

>>9105765

She's always helped provide fire support, and done pretty well on it. However! As a compromise, we can ask her what she wants to try out.

>>9105744

20 shots. 1 clip only, needs 2 hours back at the base in dedicated apparatus to recharge. Pick your shots with this one.

>>9105808
Indeed. It's been awhile since we've shot the shit with our troops beyond a bit of a chat, hasn't it?

David- Act with BEAM GUN FUCK YEAH
jol- desert zaku? Zaku cannon? our zaku?
zol- custom
elane- geshia, our zaku, desert zaku, gigan
hovis -Guess?
hobes Again, guess
bernie- desert or el

>>9105824

So uh, no chance of a captured beam sabre too eh?

It's a Gundam!

So, who's up for shooting the shit with the team while we load up the suits/ moon over our new beam rifle.

>>9105855

>>9105879
I'm all for that. They need to be praised for their hard work in Canada. We didn't even get one MS kill.

Take this time to send combat data back about the new suits

Bright: Amuro! There's a Zaku advancing from your flank!

Amuro: What? It only has some kind of machine gun...

Lister: *Insert trollface* NO MACHINE GUN, BOY, NO MACHINE GUN

*BEAM*
*EXPLOSION*

>>9105879
Mos def, let's see where everyone is at in their heads, plan barbeques, whatever. No discussions on retiring or getting married allowed though.

>>9105879
Agreed, We need to connect with the team more, we work great together but they need to know we appreciate them and we probably wouldn't be alive without them.

>>9105815

You ask Jolyne about what type of MS she would like to pilot. She seems to think about it for a second.
"Well, I've gotten a fair few hours with the Dom Cannon down, so I guess I'd like to give the Pezun Dowdage a go when it get's back from the shop. I guess in the meantime, I'll stick with the Gasshia."

I guess that sorts that...

BRB Dinner.

We should talk with our infantry too, the got ambushed, napalmed, saved our asses and we haven't said a word to them

We're dicks

>>9105932

Oh yeah.... medals for everyone, and a talk about how grateful we are for them.

They are true badasses of the Zeonic Earth Attack Force.

>>9105932
Shit, they're still alive? Send the a gift card or something.

Oh, better yet, pick one who did something awesome and give him a plaque, then prep them for attacking White Base.

>>9105960

I have this image of infantry hanging off the back of our mobile suits.

... it seems so awesome yet impractical.

>>9105932
We have to write that book about them. They're good spotters, scouts, ambushers, and more.

There the reason we killed flea and shadow, and there the reason bandit didn't get a jump on anyone and kill them.

oh, Apologised, what happened to Foxbat? Last time Jol captured them and the command tank so did we turn them over to Military Intelligence?

>>9106021

I think shes still holding him. All through the flight.

>>9106050
They're dating

>>9106050
i find that image hilarious for some reason.

>>9106050
>Hold oooon
>Through the niiiiiiiiiiight
>There will beeeeeeeeee noooooo shaaaaaaaame

WHO THE FUCK PAINTED A RAINBOW ON OUR UNICORN?

>>9106071

Foxbat: C-can I get down now?
Jolyne: No.
Foxbat: I mean... theres no bathroom in here and I-
Jolyne: Shh, you're ruining the moment...

>>9106086
wait, don't those have a crew of two or more?

>>9106128
Jol was found in a bed with us and zol....

>>9106082
Next time we go into psychedelic nekkid newtype time, we have to sing that.

Hard Mode: No matter who we're with
Nightmare Mode: It's Char

>>9106128

Foxbat:....
Jolyne:....
Foxbat.... you know there's 3 of us in h-
Jolyne: Don't care.
Foxbat: You're a b-
Jolyne:*shakes the hovertank*
Foxbat: Nyaaaaaa

>>9106142
To be fair word of god states Zol put us there.

>>9106142
JOLYNE REQUIRES TWO MEN!

>>9106154

>>9106158
And then he laid down too?

The hell was going through his fro?

>>9106154
OH JESUS CHRIST WTF mode: It's Amuro.

On a related note is it possible for more than two people to be in the same Nekkid newtype time?

>>9106182
He was fucking with our heads.

>>9106189
>>9106154
I'M OKAY WITH THIS MODE: It's Garma

:3

>>9106224
>Newtype garma

>>9106224
I'm REALLY ok with this mode: Jolyne and Elaine

>>9106294
and zol

>>9106267
That would be orgasmic.

Speaking of all the females and androgynous males we associate with, whatever happened to our operator? Did she stick with the Outer Heaven?

>>9106333
Yeah

>>9106333

Yep.

>>9106350
>>9106343
>>9106333
Anyone remember her name?

>>9106369
....Bridge bunny?

>>9106333
Yep. I think so.

C-can we get one apologized? :3

>>9106369
Something Fairchild, I think.

>>9106392
Our operator looks alot like the bottem right

>>9106383
...Well this is embarressing.

>>9106459

When we see her, and try to remember her name, we can sureptitiously look at her name on her uniform.

... YEAH. David Lister! Master of Social Etiquette!

Fairchild?

>>9106477
Do Bridge bunnies even get nametags?>>9106419
Yeah, it was something like that.

And none of us look back to the archives

God we're classy

>>9106021

Hilarious as all this is, no you handed him off to Zeon intelligence.

Anyway

You check in to see how the Outer Heaven is doing. It's almost finished, just a couple more days and it should be ready.
You load up and head off to the battlezone, hopefully you wont miss anything overly vital...

>>9106507
>hopefully you wont miss anything overly vital...
FORESHADOWING

i'm sure the support team did fine

>>9106507
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!

Go straigh to Garma. I don't trust your ellipses.

>>9106507

<_<

Why you do this Apologized? D:

uh-oh, he's writing

IT IS THE MORNING AGAIN

YOU ARE GARMA ZABI

After a moderate breakfast you receive report that Nachtmaren arrived at Edmonton yesterday without issue.
You then move to the Ops Room in this old Federation Base you've secured for your activities in this area.

Char is already up in the room, looking at the Tactical map. Before you left for bed, you gave the order to run hit-&-run attacks on the Trojan Horse to try and sap it's moral, and you've yet to see an update.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9106507

Man, why are we going so slow? We need to hurry and not miss anything important!

>>9106507

GARma is safe till we reach Seattle. then his plot armor dissipates into a large ball of SIGE ZEON!

>>9106640

WELL. Why don't we load up into a mobile suit and see how its going for ourselves?! I mean, what could possibly go wrong with such a plan?!?

>>9106640

Run hand through hair
Hand our good buddy Char a cup of coffee.
See about updates. Personally. David has taught us the value of first hand accounts yes?

>>9106640
Style out hair, never stop

>>9106667
Yesssssss.....

>>9106669

Forgot my picture... <_<

>>9106640
ask for an update of course

>>9106652

or until we take direct control of GARma and commit suicide by attacking the gundam in a stupid fashion

You have a bad feeling, get your most trusted people to watch your back.

>>9106640
Do anything else that needs doing and get an update on the hit and runs as well as the time Nachtmaren are supposed to be back here (if Garma know their coming).

>>9106722
He just got word we landed in canada, this is happening a day ago

>>9106669
>Run hand through hair

The hair ruffles luxuriantly

LOCAL MORALE IMPROVED BY +1 POINT

>Hand our good buddy Char a cup of coffee.

You take a cup of coffee and off it to Char, he accepts it good naturedly.

>See about updates. Personally. David has taught us the value of first hand accounts yes?

"So Char, any developments since last night?"

"The Trojan Horse snuck down low, but kept it's speed up to provide defences against our hit and run air attacks. It's also trying to avoid detection by relying on the heavy Minovsky density within the area."

"Avoid detection? Something as brightly coloured as that?" You scoff. The irony of that is lost on you, and Char.

"During the day yes, but at night the dark still provides ample cover."

"Yes, I suppose so. How go the hit and run attacks?"

"With them so low, we're having difficulty making successful attack runs, that's mitigated a lot of the damage. Also, the recon elements nearly lost the ship a couple of times overnight. As you said, were lucky the ship is so brightly coloured, or we may have lost it completely."

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9106775
"perhaps we should attack it with wappa mounted infantry"

>>9106775
God we need to get zol one of those

also see if we can find out their path, set up an ambush or a shelling if we can plan it out

Hell why not both? quick ambush and pull out before gundam comes out

>>9106795

When you said that I took the song 'Strangers in the night' and replaced it with "Wappas in the night" and started giggling uncontrollably.

>>9106775
Well, why don't we catch it in a pincer, shell the enclosed area and break off before the Gundam can come out?

we should lure The White Base into a designated artillery ground. round up all the hildorfs we can and fire upon it. the white base only has 3 mobile suits. or better yet lure it into the grand Canyon then shell the crap out of it.

We need a cunning plan...

If we have an idea of their heading and if we can nudge them just so... Any chance we could put a moral obstacle in their way? Get a fake Feddie emergency beacon to come from a deserted outpost and make them suspicious.

If they go check it out, they'll find THE RED COMET

If they don't, we blow the shit out of the place and some of them might feel bummed they totally ignored feddies in need.

Rinse, repeat with a different flavor. EAT AT THEIR GOODY-TWO-SHOENESS

>>9106775
With White Base so low maybe wappas and jetpack troopers on Cuis could plant some remote/timed charges on White Base. Maybe time it for right after (or during) a hit and run air attack.

HER NAME IS ANITA FAIRCHILD.

GODDAMN.

What about that hole we made? Maybe we should have an AA dropped in the path of the base hide then when it pass overhead BAM destroy the engine.

>>9106916
THAT WAS IT!

Good job Anon. Have a Cigar.

>>9106823
>>9106795

Whilst the vessel is travelling low, it's also travelling very fast, apparently it's already managed to clip the cliff face a couple of times in it's haste.
Getting Wappas to catch up with it and stay on is going to be difficult.
Also, you only have a small unit of Mechanised Infantry and Wappas. If you DO mount the infantry attack, you'd want to make sure that you'd stand the best chance of pulling it off, as you wont get a second shot.

As for catching in a pincer, it's path is erratic, looking at it's suspected route thus far, you're not even sure if the pilot of this vessel knows where he's going.
Maybe if you used some kind of decoy emergency beacon? You'll have to ask Char about how viable that would be...

"Sir, I've got a communication incoming, it's from... the Trojan Horse?"

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9106775

Lets see.

Tell Char to catch some sleep or at least to relax a bit, hes the best counter we have to the Gundam.

See if we can update his Zaku to an F2 (unless Char's command variant[I think] is better. Possibly with better weaponry). Then ask Char if that'd help the playing field.

Give a speech to the troops going out on the next sortie against White Base.

KEEP MORALE AND HAIR UP. :D

>>9106960

We answer. Then my previous post.

>>9106964

>>9106960
Well I suppose we can take it what if they want to surrender or something.

>>9106960
wat

Also make sure to run you hand through your hair during the conversation.

>>9106960
Sounds like we should accept the call.

>>9106960
Listen, be polite. Don't antagonise them. Maybe we can get them to stand down.

>>9106960
HAIR DIPLOMACY, ACTIVATE

Let's say hello, keep cool, listen to what they have to say. We mention nothing about surrendering or whatever, unless they do it first.

Also we dont let Char take the mic from us.

<_<

>>9106960
Answer the phone with our manly voice.

>YOUR ORDERS?

DO NOT PERSONALLY MOUNT UP, atleast untill David comes back and can slap a fabulous fucker into keeping himself alive.

Thats about all i've got, more arty would be nice.

Speaking of which do we have access to any medium distance cruse missiles? Try to disrupt the White bases course and get it to gain altitude for straifing runs at its relativly underprotected underside/expose the engine damage we already did. Assuming it hasn't met up with feddie repair teams operating from jaburo.

>>9107133

Minozski interference will disrupt their guidance and getting a trajectory on a moving target..... maybe. But we'd need a hell of a lot...

The comms attendant takes the message and then relays it to you.
Apparently, they want a temporary ceasefire so that they can offload refugees who had to take shelter during the attack on Side 7.

On the one hand, this would me taking the pressure off the Trojan Horse for the duration, on the other it would allow you dictate that the ship stay in one location while it does so, allowing you concentrate your forces and encircle it.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9106964
Char's Zaku S seems to be customized to amazing levels. If he turned down David's recommendation on upgrading to an Act, then an F2 isn't going to be very tempting to him.

Anyway, answer them and be sure to flaunt our fabulous purple locks and the massive charisma bonus they give us.

>>9107194
Tell them were to land, we're going to send unarmed men to help them offload

this way they can't do anything tricky, we look like heros and if they try to fuck up our tropps, whoops seems like we were armed, White base is ours

Allow it we are not monster after all. Try to get someone to have a look at it so we know what their status is. I'll leave the tactical discussion to other anon.

>>9107194

We are a Friend to David Lister.

Say we will allow the offloading of all civilian personel, as well as any military troops who have surrendered their arms.

Give them Garma Zabi's personal approval that the civillians will be treated with all due respect, with regards to the civil treatment of noncombatants as outlined in the Antartic Treaty.

For realsies?

>>9107194
Suggest a mutual defence of the offload to ensure no funny business goes on.

>>9107234

We will also offer medical aid to those who have left the ship under those terms.

>>9107194

Allow them to offload refugees, we are after all the good guys here. Also set up our biggest guns to be pointing that way, we're not fools either.

Part 55?! Wow. I bet /tg/ got this far because they played it so smart, and not because this is a bad fanfiction for a shitty anime.

>>9107186

I'm not talking about targeting a moving target. Nor am I talking about little anti-sir missiles that need to be small to manuver.

Fixed target rocket fire still works in UC, the missiles themselves just need to be large enough for the guidance systems to be shielded.

Target the white base's route not it. Dopps can do the actual damage the missiles just need to make the mountain ranges its moving in too risky

>>9107217
>>9107247
>>9107234
>>9107250
These

we do the righht thing, they don't do anything tricky

>>9107267
Agreed. We use this chance to ensure that our forces are in position to keep tracking and harassing it.

>>9107194
Agree, tell them where to land, take care of the refugees, but do not go there personally.

>>9107194
Tell them just that.

We'll let the civilians off, but make sure they understand we intend to destroy them. Maybe hint that David Lister is a bit of a softy, but if there was nothing (for instance: civilian meatshield) protecting the White Base anymore, he might get serious.

Perhaps we might inquire to the "Crewmen by Necessity" they have. We know we killed off the intended crew, let's extend the offer to the entire crew.

This might be deal breaking, but I'm certainly in favor off letting the civilians off. We're the civil son of Zabi, not Gihren.

>>9107285

With orders that we will only continue on OUR EXPRESS ORDERS.

Not Chars, Not Davids, not even if the SPIRIT OF ALL ZEON PASTS RISE FROM THE GRAVE.

Garma's Authority and Garma's alone.

>>9107298

Perhaps we could tell them to go to position x and have DAVE LISTER Ace of the Zeonic forces there to make sure no funny stuff goes down.

>to make sure no funny stuff goes down

And then shoot out one of the white base's engines right?

>>9107298
we need someone with experience, i could see some green horn there fuck it all up by shooting and then it's all over

Char has a level head, so either him or us

>>9107316
He just arrived in canada, he's not going to be back for a whole day +

If we're going to assist them we send:

12 UNARMED TRANSPORT TRUCKS.
5 MEDEVAC TRANSPORTS

No escorts, nobody armed.

We do not harm civilians. We're Garma Zabi, and we approve this message.

>>9107352

Well, we don't need to say they can offload NOW, we could say in a few days, it takes time to prepare to take in refugees after all.

Is it possible we can get a Dopp recon element to do some watching and transmitting through laser comms.

This would make good propaganda, whichever way it goes.

We've got to have some deniability if things go to crap... proof would be good too.

you agree to the ceasefire agreement. White base states that it will launch a transport which will contain the refugees, and it will land nearby and offload the refugees before returning to the ship.

You give the okay, and then order several squads of Zaku's and Magella tanks to move up to the Trojan Horse's position. Once the refugees have been dropped you intend to hit them with everything you've got.

>>9107275
What's that? You're halfway through your journey to choke on a million dicks? Good job, anon! Keep at it! I'm sure you'll reach your goal one day!

>>9107428
THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WHAT WE WANT AT ALL

>>9107428
Send some spy planes and wappa infantry to ensure that it's just refugees and not anything tricky.

To: Commanding Officer Federation ship "Trojan Horse"
From: Captain Garma Zabi

In times of war, the darkest side of mankind is revealed. Our hate and desire often blind our sense of humanity. For all the evil committed in its name, I feel only regret and sorrow.

I will grant you your ceasefire on the following conditions:

1. I will designate the location for the drop and the allotted time of the ceasefire.

2. I will provide transportation, medical care, and all basic human rights required by those who leave your ship.

3. YOU will not betray this offer of humanity.

Specifics can be hashed out at your earliest opportunity.

Signed
Captain Garma
Captain Garma's hair

>Her newtype ability is a close combat dream

Not really. Think Dio with Rockets instead of knifes and a battlefield full of things waiting to be rocketted.

There's only so much slashan you can do but the upper limit of how many rockets we can send flying is only dictated by SCIENCE!

>>9107428

We need to radio them back Apologized.

This is a request to us.

We WILL abide by the antartic treaty, and we will provide them medical care.

But we will NOT let an unknown enemy transport leave the area of engagement.

Also. Acguy.

>>9107459
>>9107506
They're not going to land the white base, merely send off a ship containing refugees. We let the refugees go free then it's back to business.

>>9107506

Yes.

-countersigned.

>>9107508
Being able to move FASTER THAN THE MIND IS AWARE is not good for cc?

Riiiight.

>>9107508
No. She may be able to move at light speed, but that doesn't make the missile's realoading ability any better.

The gouf was able to bend like that in that time and zol's thrusters were able to go full blast, fireing more missiles before they're out of the tube? impossible

>>9107523
Who knows what they could hide in a transport. Contact them and insist that we provide unarmed transports to help the refugees evacuate the combat zone.

>>9107523
We're making the terms here, we could keep them on board and just bomb them if they prefer

They're doing it our way or they are NOT doing it

>>9107567
Thirding. All movement is with our trucks/ships nothing comes out of the White Base besides people, anything else is treachery.

>>9107573
This

YOU ARE NOW JOHN "BIG JOHN" KLAUSWITZ, LUGGUN PILOT.

You've been following the Trojan Horse since last night, off an on, you lost for a couple hours this morning before sunrise, but you find it soon after. Now though you're getting new orders.

The Feds have asked for a ceasefire so that they can get rid of onboard civilians. They'll be doing via an on board air-transport mission. It will be your job to escort the transport and make sure it's a legitimate refugee mission.

Around 2 in the afternoon, the Trojan Horse stops in an open area and launches it's transport.

>>9107428
We've been fairly easy on you in the past for doing omething completely different then we suggest, but this time I'm holding firm.

It's quite obvious no one likes this course of action. Recommend you read the above posts.

>>9107651
Please pause to review our past suggestions, we do not want this.

>>9107651
apologised, stop. No one want's this.

>>9107651

In before that air transport gets shot down by mystery fire for a propaganga victory for the Feddies. Either that or its filled with commandos.

>>9107428
>>9107651
Come on apologised, what the fuck man.

>>9107651
Apologized, you're a good quest runner, but you're completely ignoring us now. Please, either decide whether you want to continue this as a quest or as a fanfic; you're cheating everyone involved if you don't make up your mind.

Gonna let everyone know this now, if he keeps going im gonna image spam.

>>9107584
>>9107567
>>9107506
I love the smell of metagaming in the morning.

Too bad it's afternoon here.

>>9107722
Don't be a dick.
>>9107651
you too.

>>9107727
How is that metagaming?

A military vessel wants to dislodge something and needs our cooperation to do it, and we're not going to be suspicious as fuck?

>>9107655

FYI, it's because unlike 90% of Zeonquest thus far, this comes directly from the tv series, Episode 8 I believe. Unfortunately for anyone who's seen that episode it's impossible not to meta-game.

But yeah, I don't see why Garma can't lay down the law and refuse to give the Gunperry free reign.

It's an ugly ungainly thing in bright colours. You wonder if the person who designed the stuff for project V was colour blind.

You pull along side it and follow it.

"Where do you think they're going? Nothing around here but this lake." you Co-Pilot, a particularily gormless individual called Hawmenn asks.

You just shrug.

Captain Garma calls you over the radio.

"Can you confirm that they're carrying refugees Luggun 'Big John'? " he orders.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9107651
Oh for fuck's sake Apologised what the hell?

I really like this quest but this is just not cool.

>>9107651

I thought we agreed we wanted it to be done via unarmed ground transports provided by Zeon. I can therefore only assume that this is a ruse and that air transport is really a disguised GUNDAM. Time to bug out and warn everyone.

>>9107799
Is it really still metagaming if it's a sound strategic choice?

Show them we're not jerks while at the same time refusing to let our security be compromised. Maybe show off a little muscle in the process?

>>9107799

He is. He's basically told the Luggun to watch this Gunperry like a hawk. If they try anything funny, it sprays it with machinegun fire and he calls in the Air-Cavalry.

>>9107810
Confirmed for not caring ;__;

I haven't seen the original Gundam series.

My only exposure to it is 08th MS team and Stardust Memory.

But okay I guess... <_<

ITS A GUNDAM!

SHOOT IT DOWN BEFORE IT CAN TRANSFORM!

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>>9107799
We've already changed things, what with garma using a fuckin efreet as one example. We should be able to change this too

>>9107810
As John I'd suggest to whoever's on the radio that an airborne refugee evac is just screaming trap and that any commander with a minor amount of common sense would not let the Federation dictate how this goes down.

But I'm just a silent mouthpiece pilot so screw me.

>>9107849
Yeah but that was not what a single person in the thread suggested.

It's a downright bad idea.

Inb4 Garma tells us to shoot it down.

>>9107810
We said do it by ground and the Feds pull this. Inform Garma and bug out. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

>>9107810
Crash our plane into the transport

For justice

>>9107849
As someone who never watched the original series, no.

Garma has personally, with his own eyes, watched bullets bounce off of the Gundam harmlessly. This is not adequate.

>>9107810
Big John is a blood thirsty maniac

"THEY'VE OPENED FIRE! IT'S A TRAP!"

Fine, we do it this way.

They screw with us: under truce.

No mercy.

No regret.

We will have the Trojan horse a burning hulk.

A BURNING HULK

>>9107915

Yeah, even if it shoots the Gunperry down the Gundam, if it is inside, would be completely unharmed. Probably jump out of the flaming wreckage and blast the Luggun to pieces.

>>9107955
Also leaves WB rather undefended for a while when we hit it with EVERYTHING

What the fuck man. "Hey, look, I'll set up a quest thread and ignore everyone in it! That's a fine plan!"

Seriously, cut with this bullshit.

A BURNING HULK

WE HAD A TRUCE TROJAN HORSE.

A.

BURNING.

HULK.

>>9107875

Fearing that this may be some kind of trap, you fly in close an attempt to look in through the windows. You notice that the transport has taken some heavy damage already, probably from earlier fighting.
You peer into the windows, you see a motley collection of people, mostly old men, some kids in uniform who can't be much older than 14, even a woman with a child.
The child waves at you. Reminded of your own son back in Side 5 you wave back.

They LOOK like refugees, but you aren't letting them out of your sight until it's back inside the Trojan Horse that's for sure.

"It looks legit from here Captain Garma, although I'd feel a little happier with a stronger fighter escort."

"Unfortunately, all of our fighters are currently around the Trojan Horse. Once this ceasefire is over, I'm mounting a major assault."

"I think this transport COULD be big enough to store a mobile suit sir..." you comment.

You hear conversations in the background, but before you get a response, smoke begins pouring out of the cargo bay, and the transport begins to descend unsteadily.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9107955
Which is why we should have done this under heavy guard and scrutiny on the ground. So noone could pull any shenanigans.

If we try something the trojan horse turns us into paste with its mounted weaponry. If the horse tries something our pre-sighted arty turns everything in a 1km radius into scrap.

Honestly I've never seen any of this series so could someone fill me in as to the meta of whats going on here? Though honestly, even someone whos only millitary experience is watching WW2 films would be able to point and shout about how this is a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PLAN. You just don't let enemy air units launch off on their own on the basic assumption they are carrying refugees. Especially not in a war zone. Especially not in a limited time only ceasefire. Doubly especially not when your enemies forces consist of super robots that can probably fly and also hide in said air transport.

>>9107810
>YOUR ORDERS?

Sorry man, but when it doesn't feel like our votes have any real use at crucial times I just can't bring myself to care any more. Yesterday you barely gave us any choices at all and just wiped out several significant enemies without any input from us at all. Here everyone was explicitly saying "We say we will send unarmed transports over to evacuate the refugees" and you instead had Garma say "Okay get them evacuated however you want."

I'm out.

>>9107986
I haven't seen the series since its run on toonami. But simple logic tells me it's a trap of some sort, most likely involving the Gundam, and death for the brave men of Zeon.

>>9107986
THIS THIS THIS
GGundamfag here, never seen the original series. But this is a dumb ass plan, and OP is being an ass about it. You want to make a fanfic, don't do it with a quest

>>9107986

Yeaah... but what are we gonna do?

<_<

Apologized, please make this awesome.

We're feeling a little left out here.

>>9107978
It seems rather silly that smoke would just suddenly start pouring out like that. Have the luggan signal the transport and ask if they need assistance. If they do, help. If they don't, continue to watch them like a hawk.

>>9108036
>Yeaah... but what are we gonna do?

Voice our displeasure and hope Apologised comes to his senses before alienating most of the people in the thread?

I mean it's his thread and he can shit it up all he wants, but it's still shitting.

*Sigh*

See if we can't relay them coordinates for an emergency landing. Prepare rescue teams. Watch for anything else suspicious.

>>9107978

Since we seemingly have no say as per par of actual actions, all I can suggest is that we get a live visual feed of whats going on as well as radio people who count. Currently thats no one, so lets just get the video feed going, maybe the aircraft investigators can tell us what happened after they've crashed and burned.

>>9108088
>>9108075
>>9108063
Oh, stop being a childish twat.

>>9107978
>YOUR ORDERS?
OH? WE GET A SAY IN THIS? WHAT A TWEEST.

NO THANKS. I'M NOT PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING THAT AMOUNTS BEING A WASTE OF TIME.

>>9108026
>>9108018

You squawk out that the transport is currently on fire, it's on an open radio band so both sides probably heard it.
Then you switch back to a secure laser comm line.

"It's pouring smoke, and making for what looks like a crash landing. I'm now more suspicious than ever that this COULD be a trap."

"Boss! I'm getting communications from the transport that she's suffered a major failure caused by earlier damage and it's going to make a crash landing. He says that the refugees will be dismebarking if they survive, and the crew will return to White Base by rocket pack."

You call up HQ again for an update.

"Lt. Commander Char agrees with you Corporal, and he's currently flying over along with a wingman in the Kommusai. Hold your position."

This is problematic, as patrolling over the Gunperry will mean leaving Federal troops with rocket packs to their own devices.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9108110
Nah, I'm good. If he does turn it around I'll delete the post though. I'm not a total asshole

>>9108123
>and the crew will return to White Base by rocket pack.
No, no they won't.

Inform the transport that if anyone leaves the ship, fuck if it goddamn twitches, before Zeon rescue forces arrive it will be destroyed in the most violent way you can manage.

>>9108123
Why the hell are there TROOPS WITH ROCKET PACKS mixed with refugees?

Shoot it down. We are not fools.

>>9108123
Take evasive manouvers just in case they attack, don't leave yourself as a target. And STOP IGNORING US!

>>9108123

I believe whats going on is the difference between Canon and our own little AU.

Its just so... frustrating Apologized.

Can I suggest we put a hold on further actions and we discuss this like the elegan/tg/entlemen we all are?

Please?

>>9108148
Logically, to pilot it.

>>9108148
That's not necessary. Maybe it is an actual mechanical failure, and rocket packs would work better than parachutes for ditching a plane and getting back to your airborne base.

But letting them egress would be a terrible idea. A joint rescue OP in the name of cooperation fine. But just leaving a boatload of 'refugees' is a shit idea.

>>9108158
I'll second this.

>>9108139

I second that. Everyone sits tight until we've taken the civilians into custody. Anyone who does not will be shot.

>>9108158

I love this quest series. Its been entertaining. With that said, our input seems to account for less and less.

Some of us have seen the whole gundam series. Some of us have not.

And I GET the fact that its sometimes hard to see what is meta gaming and what isn't.

But our input should be heard, or at least acknowledged. C'mon Apologized, we've been through so much together.

Don't let it end like this. D:

>>9108158
Just an explanation as to why he ignored everyone in the thread would be nice. Maybe there's no good LZ's in a reasonable area or something.

But c'mon, don't just ignore everyone and then continue on like nothing happened while half the thread flips shit.

>>9108123
Apologised... just stop with the actions for a minute. I really agree with >>9108158 here in that we need to get this talked about now.

Save the thread and save the quest Apologized.

My time zone and life schedule have made enjoying Zeonquest very difficult, but I have still managed to do so, please don't make it all in vain.

>>9108228

Stop for now please.

We'll hopefully get an answer.

>>9108208
>>9108205
>>9108191
>>9108176
>>9108158

Seriously, apologized. At this rate Zeonquest will probably be killed by everyone being pissed off.

Derp thread don't go like I want it to so I'll bomb the thread amirite.

>>9108241
Alright anon

>>9108139
>>9108148
>>9108151
>>9108158

You order the Gunperry crew to stay with the ship when they land, and that under no circumstances is anybody to leave until after they've been checked by incoming ground forces for if they're spies.

The crew strongly protest, claiming that this would be a breach of the ceasefire. You tell them they can tell it to Char Aznable when he get's here.
That shut's them up

The Gunperry hit's the ground flattening a row of palm trees.

You circle overhead, asking for a situation update from HQ. They report that Char should be five minutes out, the ground troops 15.
They're bombarding the area with minovsky particles. to prevent the Trojan Horse from realising that you've breached the ceasefire arrangement.
You continue to circle overhead.

Suddenly, there is a flash of light.

>>9108257
It's more like he won't listen to anyone, and he ignored the people saying "Stop" so yeah, i'll spam the thread untill he at least adresses it, and if he goes so far as to fix it i'll delete all these image post

Just gotta see what he does now

>>9108267
>you've breached the ceasefire arrangement.

How the fuck have we breached the ceasefire?

The feddies trying to sneak troops in with the refugees broke the damn ceasefire. We're just being sane and military like in our security details.

>>9108267
STOP FOR A FUCKING SECOND AND LISTEN TO US!

>>9108267
How did we breach the ceasefire? We never fired, we've done nothing we haven't agreed to.

>>9108267

Oh Apologised.

Please stop.

I know its late over there in the UK, but after all we've been through....

>>9108282
You're not helping anyone though, you're not making a point, you're just shitting up the thread.

I may not be quite thrilled with OP, but I'm not going to throw a fit to make my point about common decency in discourse.

>>9108267
Stop posting for a second and listen to us Apologised.

>>9108075
>>9108088
>>9108102
>>9108113
>>9108141
>>9108157
>>9108167
>>9108181
>>9108197
You are an even bigger fag than Apologized.

>>9108267
>There is a flash of light.

GODDAMN IT NO
A TRICK TO MAKE US LOOK BAD?

I'm thinking Apologized is bored with the quest and wants to end it, but doesn't want to come out and say it; thus, he ignores us and tries to get those of us that have enjoyed his work so far to kill it so he doesn't feel guilty...

GODDAMMIT MAN, IF YOU NEED A BREAK JUST SAY SO. WHEN YOU'RE ON YOU DO GREAT; IF YOU'RE BURNING OUT JUST SAY SO; NOBODY WILL THINK LESS OF YOU.

>>9108282

Look. I decided to follow the events of the show. As a result, things are more heavily on the rails than they were normally.

Secondly, people said "yes, go with the ceasefire." so I went with the ceasefire: As it was presented in the show. I did this because these were events that happened in the show.
I recognised that this was an unpopular decision, so I decided to go "fuck it" and just go with whatever you suggested.

As a result, we are now well and truly off how it went in the show.

Now, I can only assume the exact arrangements for the drop-off were as follows.

1. The Trojan horse selects a site and stops there for the duration of the ceasefire
2. The Zeonic forces do not attack Trojan Horse and attatched units during this time.
3. The refugee transport is under constant escort and does not deviate from the flight path set out by Zeonic HQ until it reaches the designated landing zone.
4. The Tranport then returns to the Trojan Horse
5. Ceasefire over.

Any deviation from this is considered a breach of the ceasefire.

There, does THAT make sense now?

>>9108267

This isn't ignoring us, he's finally deviating from the Canon in the manner we suggested.

This is how Zeonquest ends.

Not with a bang, but Apologized trolling the hell out of all of us.

Feels bad man

I want him to keep going even if we are the main character of the quest there is no reason for the rest of our team to score MS kills. Even more we are not garma or john the fact that we have less to say in what they do is fine with me. I enjoy having a break once in a while.

>>9108343
Makes sense to me.

>>9108343
Thank God! I tought I was ging to have to quit the quest.

Thank you for giving us an actual reason.

>>9108343
>Look. I decided to follow the events of the show.

And what on earth made you think that was a good decision when everyone who posted was saying "Accept the ceasefire BUT..."?

>>9108323
JESUS WILL YOU ALL SHUT UP

Maybe he's just misinterpreted our wishes. If he REPEATEDLY ignores them (he's following up on the previous 'offense' right now), THEN there's a problem. Just sit back, relax, and let the music invade your senses.

>>9108343
I still don't like it, but it makes sense and I thank you for the explanation.

Now, would that have been so hard to have said before and avoided this shitstorm.

>>9108321

>>9108343

Absolutely apologized.

But we just wish you'd explain that to us before going ahead with it.

Sorry if this is aggravating to you man, but we'd just like some acknowledgment.

>>9108343
You gave us a choice. We had a plan, a fully logical and reasonable one that makes a hell of a lot more sense than the show. You then ignored said plan just to go with the show, the deviation from IS WHERE THE FUN COMES FROM. Quests in settings from shows or games are great in that you have "what if" scenarios. Nobody complained that the Gundam got lots of plot armor; you came out and said it, we thought that worked out well and everyone was happy. If there are conditions we have to work within for our plans, outline them before choosing to ignore everything we say.

>>9108343
You do realize by giving into these whiny faggots and their bitchfits, that when you don't let them kill White Base and Gundam, they're going to throw another hissy bitchfit and troll up everything, right?

>>9108343
You don't have to go the course of the show, that is the ENTIRE POINT OF THIS QUEST

just do what we ask when you ask our opinion

>>9108343
O.k. Now that that is out of the way please continue.

With all of that said Apologised.

I have to ask you, do you wish to follow the shows canon?

We all seemed to have more fun when it was just a guideline.

Ya know?

>>9108375

I was trying to keep my posts fast and short like people kept telling me to do yesterday.
As result, I probably went over certain parts that with hindsight I should have fleshed out.

It doesn't help that I feel like shit and have done all week, and have no idea what it is.

>>9108402
There is a difference between saying "No, it doesn't work that way" and "Ignoring a completely legitimate plan." This is the latter, saying "lol, I kill the gundam" is the former.

>>9108406
The point of this quest is to allow us to play David Lister/Natcharen the fact that he allow us to order around Garma and other pilots is a plus.

>>9108402
I'd never do that, and as I said I deleted the images. I'm not some troll, he asked us what we wanted to do then did something else, that is not a quest thread and that's way different from "Our underpowered suit wins the war because I say so!"

If we don't kill the gundam, fine there's a reason for it. Cease fire conditions that everyone is agreeing on being ignored? i draw the line

>>9108423
If you feel like shit take a break.

>>9108423
Apologised, take today off. We can restart part55 from scratch when you are feeling better; doing it in this state isn't healthy for you or the quest.

>>9108423

Maybe you need a break from this Apologised?

I have to admit, doing a thread like this on a regular basis may be tiring.

And don't worry too much about Cannon.

Sometimes cannon story isn't as fun yeah?

>>9108419

The problem is that were directly interfacing with the show now. It's also hard to NOT have to do these events as they directly concern Garma. So I sort of have to approach the episodes, which are linear in nature, in some kind of non-linear fashion with elements of choice.

>>9108343

I can appreciate and understand your reasons Apologized, but it sure seems different this time then when we were in Episodes 5-7. That time things differed from the canon, but because Gundam and White Base were still so powerful the end result was more less the same. Following the initial suggestions about using jeeps may have made this episode very different, but I think the end result would still have been more or less the same.

Unfortunately this issue is not going to go away, although how big of an issue it's going to be depends on how much of the OYW we've changed.

>>9108445

I getcha.

But it probably would have been fun to do some back and forth with demands from the Trojan Horse to get to where we are now.

But I understand your need to balance the linearity of GarmaQuest with Zeonquest.

Maybe therin lies the problem: We shouldn't show up and do PoV section during canon moments?

Maybe we should exclusively stay with David Lister and the things he can only personally affect?

>>9108445
So maybe we should just stay as David and only hear about what Garma does.

>>9108445
Yeah... But I thought we had made Garma a better leader? Wasn't that the point of like a good deal of threads? I mean, why would he make the exact same decisions if he's a (at least slightly) different person now?

>>9108480
This is a good point. If you're not going to give us a choice, then don't say "YOUR ORDERS." Just put a little tag "Cutscene mode, we'll get back to Lister in a moment"

>>9108343
This does not address our complaints and I'm disappointed by those who think it does.

>>9108423
Feel free to take a break, I would have no qualms.

However, this event has really shaken my involvement. Maybe I'm just one anon in the grand scheme of things, but I'm attached to this quest. I was the guy who gave the picture of our first logo, helped named the suit, called Elaine's fake mustache, and a lot more. It was great when my input had meaning. This, asking us for input but then not listening is very disturbing. If we have no ability to change things, tell us. Don't put "Your Orders" and then not do anything.

>>9108445
>The problem is that were directly interfacing with the show now. It's also hard to NOT have to do these events as they directly concern Garma. So I sort of have to approach the episodes, which are linear in nature, in some kind of non-linear fashion with elements of choice.

The thing is Apologised, Garma is now a different person to who he was in show and at the start of the quest. There's no reason to assume he would make the same decisions as he did in canon.

>>9108451

Typing that made me realize how much you can miss when your typing responses. You have my sympathies, Apologized.

I do like the small posts, but if the vast majority of what you're doing is just a transcript of the episode... what's the point? Don't screw with us and make us think we have a say, if this is really the equivalent of a cutscene.

>>9108445
>The problem is that were directly interfacing with the show now.

I'm not sure that's the wisest thing to do when the point of the Quest is to change the way the war depicted in the show tuned out, especially if we're going to be so intertwined with it.

But it's your quest, do what thou wilt - as long as we get a decent 'why' in the process.

>>9108445
Then do what you've done before. No one will get on you for doing cut scenes, I didn't mind the gundam fights because they never asked
>YOUR ORDERS?
so i knew they were going to happen a certain way without input

Don't put "Your orders?" unless you want our orders. and if that doesn't line up with the show, oh well you gave us a choice and we chose.

>>9108492
This is a good idea Apologised. How about we forget this thread happened and we pick it back up when you're feeling better?

>>9108488

What's funny is that in the show Char was only marginally faster on the uptake than Garma. Maybe it's not reflective of the characters, but just bad writing on the show's part?

Apologized, what the fucked happened to you? You're not even running a fucking quest anymore.

Fuck you.

>>9108480
>We shouldn't show up and do PoV section during canon moments

This seems like the best solution. Getting some radio transmissions that there's a temporary ceasefire on and we need to tail a transport from the ground is one thing, and can lead to some cool stuff.

But ostensibly putting is in control of the guy who makes the decisions and then going "But thou must!" is rather disconcerting compared to the rest of the quest.

>>9108533

Yeah. I guess.

I suppose I'll try again when I'm feeling better.

I wish I knew what was wrong with me though. I had the exact same thing over Christmas as well.

>>9108533

And besides, I really wanted to get those civilians out...

Frau Bow x David Lister.

Ohhhh yeaaah....

But seriously, thanks for stopping and listening to us Apologised.

Hopefully this will improve the overall quest...

>>9108624

Yeah apologized. Take a break.

Consider doing this once a week instead of three times.

At least until you're feeling better.

Ya?

>>9108624
Do short post, don't respond untill there seems to be a consensus and even if it screws with the time line, fuck it. Let's have fun again.

So how 'bout you delete this thread and we pretend this never happened?

Apologized, you got the process half right.

You did make shorter posts, and that's good.

But you also have to give a little bit of time for some input to be made by us players.

>>9108681

Retcon thread?

>>9108696
It was all "Big" John's dream while he was supposed to be tracking the Trojan Horse.

>>9108711
he did lose a few hours...

I say we keep the thread though, a good reminder of what can happen, also untill the end here, it was a fucking sweet thread

>>9108445
The big difference here is that Garma probably figured "what the heck, if they try to pull something it means fewer guys defending White Base when we attack".

The big divergence is that he's not going to be taken by surprise when the Gundam shows up. And he'll immediately pull his guys out.

Also, he's going to be launching an infantry assault while the Gundam isn't there to step on it. At the very least, White Base is going to take heavy damage.

I think the basic idea is to retcon everything after we stopping being Lister, let Apologized work that out in a different way. Feel better man!

>>9108766

This definitly.

Lets get back to form. :D

>>9108696

To be honest, given how little of this actually concerns Lister and the gang, then we probably can just ignore it.

>>9108711
"Hey! Hey, wake up! The refugees are leaving."

He roused from his slumber and looked at the monitor in front of him. It showed the Trojan Horse, several miles away, on the ground, immobile. Now would be the perfect time to strike it with every long range missile they had, but Garma's temporary ceasefire would see none of that. A set of hangar doors opened and three larges trucks slowly emerged, pulled several hundred feet from the ship, and stopped.

From across the way, a small cadre of Zeonic trucks and ambulances made their way to meet them. The trucks met, and those from Zeon encircled the Federation vehicles, before leading them away.

Several minutes passed before the visage of Captain Garma came on screen. His message was to the commander of the Trojan Horse, but it was relayed to all Zeonic forces in the area as well.

"We've complied with the terms of the ceasefire. These people will be given the best care possible. We are not monsters, sir." He sipped his tea. "And now, seeing as that business is done, the ceasefire is officially over. Fire at will, boys."

The pilots of the Big John smiled. "About damn time."

>>9108801

Alright.

So... new thread?

>>9108801
>Ignore latter half of thread.

Feels good man.

So do you think you'll be fine for tommorow or will the next thread be in a week or two?

>>9108821
Me like

Thinking about it, Zeon could probably get the White Base arrested for war crimes once the war's over due to their Gundam in the transport shenanigans.

Presumably they said there would be a transport carrying civilians, wounded, whatever and the soldiers in the cockpit would be the only ones. Therefore you would have to be an idiot to not have a condition in the ceasefire that any other soldiers than the pilots in the transport are officially surrendering. Therefore the fact that Amuro went in the transport with explicit intention to use the Gundam from it to attack the Zeon forces is a soldier faking surrender which is a serious war crime under the Hague Convention (which was signed before world war one).

Mental note: assuming we go with Garma lets the transport leave the ship option when this continues which isn't too bad an option, as soon as Dave finds out the details of what happens he has evidence gathered of what happened so that when the war ends, Amuro, Bright and whoever else knowingly took part can be tried for their crimes.

>>9109064

Yes. This. It would be hilarious.

>>9109064
>as soon as Dave finds out the details of what happens he has evidence gathered of what happened so that when the war ends, Amuro, Bright and whoever else knowingly took part can be tried for their crimes.

The problem with someone from Zeon accusing someone of warcrimes is a lot like the pot calling the kettle black.

>>9109183
...Oh yeah... that whole colony drop thing...

>>9109064
Found a relevant article in the Geneva convention:

"Article 37.-Prohibition of perfidy

1. It is prohibited to kill, injure or capture an adversary by resort to perfidy. Acts inviting the confidence of an adversary to lead him to believe that he is entitled to, or is obliged to accord, protection under the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict, with intent to betray that confidence, shall constitute perfidy. The following acts are examples of perfidy:
(a) The feigning of an intent to negotiate under a flag of truce or of a surrender;
(b) The feigning of an incapacitation by wounds or sickness;
(c) The feigning of civilian, non-combatant status; and
(d) The feigning of protected status by the use of signs, emblems or uniforms of the United Nations or of neutral or other States not Parties to the conflict.
2. Ruses of war are not prohibited. Such ruses are acts which are intended to mislead an adversary or to induce him to act recklessly but which infringe no rule of international law applicable in armed conflict and which are not perfidious because they do not invite the confidence of an adversary with respect to protection under that law. The following are examples of such ruses: the use of camouflage, decoys, mock operations and misinformation."

The important part being "(c) The feigning of civilian, non-combatant status;"
Seems pretty clear cut to me.

>>9109183
Fortunately, whatever actions have been committed by other people is utterly irrelevent in a court. Saying "But he killed three people" is not going to get you off for murdering a murderer. Especially if it comes from David Lister, known to be an honorable knight of zeon I reckon we could make this stick.

>>9109228

Wonder if the Antarctic Treaty built up on that...

>>9109217

And the whole nerve gas thing, and then later on the whole colony laser thing.

>>9109228

You see IIRC, the point of having the Gundam inside the the ship was to deploy it in the lake, and then have it flank the attacking Zeon forces AFTER the ceasefire was ended.

Now, under those rules, merely using the ceasefire arrangment to move your forces about to a more advantageous position ISN'T a breach of the geneva convention.
Because if it was then YOU wouldn't be able to move your forces to encircle the White Base.

At least, that's how I think I can see it argued.

>>9109064

This should be our new Quest in Zeonquest. Bring Amuro to justice for his despicable actions. Oh not to mention how the Gundam killed a ship full of colony refugees while under a cease fire agreement. That in itself would be a big rallying point against Federation forces.

>>9109228
>>9109183
>>9109217

Uh. Was the Colony Drop before or after the Antarctica Treaty? I don't know anything about the main plot of this aside from Zeon losing in the end, which I'd hope wouldn't happen in ZeonQuest.

But anyways, if it was before the Antarctica treaty, then it doesn't count, right? So then they can't pull anything on us about war crimes because we haven't committed any, right?

>Especially if it comes from David Lister, known to be an honorable knight of zeon I reckon we could make this stick.

Weren't we involved in Operation British though?

>>9109418

No, that was Strauss.

>>9109390
>Now, under those rules, merely using the ceasefire arrangment to move your forces about to a more advantageous position ISN'T a breach of the geneva convention.
>Because if it was then YOU wouldn't be able to move your forces to encircle the White Base.
>At least, that's how I think I can see it argued.

And that's wrong I'm afraid. The terms of the ceasefire would be something like "Soldiers fly transport containing civilians then return to white base. Zeon does not attack white base and white base does not attack zeon until this is complete."

This means that anyone who choose to remain in the transport is identifying as a non combatant civilian. Amuro does this and then engages in combat with zeon forces which is a clear breach of the article. Our actions of moving our men around is not against the ceasefire and the perfidy article of the geneva convention thus has nothing to do with them.

>>9109479

Well, I suppose *someone's* gonna cook out something about Minovsky particle killing babies then and smearing our good name with it.

>>9109496

Perhaps the Geneva conventions are no longer in place? It would explain the mass gassing of colonists that took place early on in the war.

>>9109561
Did both sides gas people?

>>9109578

I beleive so.

>>9109561

Just because they are ignored doesn't mean they aren't in place. History is as ever written by the victors, whoever wins is going to be able to shout warcrimes at the losers with their own actions swept aside and have them considered 'classified' until the people involved are old or dead.

>>9109561
Except I'm fairly sure that at some point in UC the geneva convention gets name dropped. Can't for the life of me remember when but I'm all but certain it does.

You can't talk me out of pushing for us to try this apologised.

Apologized,

Thanks for taking a break.

Making this quest part of your weekend was kind of ya but make sure you're alive and well enough to be useful to both yourself and us Nachtmaren enthusiasts.

Yeah ret-conning everything after we switched to Garma would be awesome if possible and since David wasn't involved it wouldn't seem weird ass or arbitrary in the long run.

Once you've got the stamina we'll be eagerly there ready to kick Feddie Balls.

>>9109643

I guess. But It's still all kinds of murky. Also, I don't think you'll have chance in hell with this if the Feds win in the end, given how corrupt they are.

At best they'll use it as an excuse to put Amuro in citzens arrest in Augusta, and from there the Titans use his test data to make the artificial newtypes.

It would also explain why Brights still only a captain.

>>9109717

I had thought it was his habit of hitting people... <_<

>>9109739
But his hitting people made them better people....mostly.

>>9109739
they are lucky he did shoot them, he would have been well with his too

>>9110177

bright slap.

guaranteed to make you a better person or your money back.

Warning doesn't work on Kai

>>9110226

It KINDA works on him. He get's slapped and then next episode he's volunterring to pilot the Guncannon.

It just doesn't work at full capacity is all.

Ok, what's going on? Are we autosaged yet?

>>9111054
Page 14 and falling. What the FUCK is going on? I sleep in, and there's some kind of huge debate regarding how the Quest is done? And it derails the story in progress? And it wasn't addressed during the discussion thread last Sunday? That strikes me as ODD.