How does "Pyre" sound?

>>14948923
I DON'T HATE IT. IT COULD USE A LITTLE MORE.
MAYBE A SUBTITLE? THOUGH THOSE CAN BE PRETENTIOUS.

I AM CURRENTLY READING THE THREAD THAT THE WHINING TOOK PLACE IN, TO DETERMINE IF ANYTHING OF VALUE WAS ESTABLISHED.

I SUPPOSE I COULD POST A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE WORLD AS WELL, FOR THOSE INCAPABLE OF FINDING A GODDAMN 1D4CHAN ENTRY.

You want a deathworld?

I give you a death-nation.

Assholia. There I said it, the worst possibly setting ever created. Ticks the size of plates, rats the size of dogs. Malevolent semi-sentient metal, all metal is that. Everything is poisoned. Flesh eating fog. Spibears. You name something bad, Assholia has it even more worse.

>>14948972
YOUR POST IMPLIES TO ME THAT YOU ARE UNAWARE OF THE /tg/ HOMEBREW SETTING "DEATHWORLD".

LUCKILY FOR YOUR IGNORANT FACE, I WAS ABOUT TO POST A SUMMARY. INITIATING NON-YELLING EXPOSITION MODE.

The world of "Deathworld" follows the timeline of real life until mid world war two. In Deathworld, Hitler does not execute operation Barbarossa, therefore Germany never ends up fighting a war on two fronts. Germany takes and fortifies Fortress Europe, and Britain. Russia expands Eastward, and hostilities break out when both seize opposing coasts of (North) America.

In addition, the combat styles of the two forces have shifted: the thaumaturgical investigations of the Reich have borne fruit, and now battle-sorcerors and summoned demons augment their Aryan armies. Meanwhile, Soviet science has brought nuclear powered tanks and power-armor clad warriors to stand against their enemy's magic.

Neither side is willing to risk assault on a European front, so their skirmishes and battles are fought in the no-man's land of what was once the midwest of the United states, in the rainforests and mountains of South America, and in the savannahs and jungles of Afrika. (SPELT WITH A K BECAUSE FUCK YOU.)

(cont)

>>14949121

Not that these two superpowers stand alone, however, for forces are growing against them, as they grew in our time.

From the war-torn lands of what were once United States, the Constitutionalists are rising. The Nazi mages may pull support from the fires of Hell, but the Constitutionalists pull theirs from the very Earth. The bodies and souls of Americans, most impressively deceased Presidents and Founding Fathers, rise from the Grave, promising Equality in Death, and freedom from their oppressors.

Ever-running, and ever-planning beneath the sea lies Free Britain, a single super-submarine, holding what remains of the free population of England. From her watery home, the new Fae-Queen plots to re-take the surface, and avenge her fallen home.

Meanwhile, in the scouring cold of the Antarctic, rumors insist that New Australia has become a technological wonder, having sent men to the moon, and rebuilt their bodies in iron and silicon. Few have seen the city, hidden behind a scrying shield, powered by some unrevealed energy source, but one wonders if one day from the cold they shall march, and claim this world as well as the moon.

AND THAT'S ALL SHE WROTE. I'VE GIVEN SLIGHT TWEAKS TO THE ESTABLISHED PARTS FOR THE SUMMARY, RATHER THAN GO INTO DETAILS.

ALSO, THEY TALK ABOUT IDEAS FOR OTHER FACTIONS, WHICH, GIVEN THAT SAID IDEAS ARE A CORE ISSUE OF THIS THREAD, I DID NOT WISH TO PUT IN THE SUMMARY.

MINOR PLAYERS: THESE ARE IDEAS FOR LESS IMPORTANT PLAYERS ON THE INTERNATIONAL SCENE, FOR CHARACTER IDEAS AND ADVENTURE HOOKS.
FINLAND: GHOSTLY FREEDOM FIGHTERS AGAINST THEIR SOVIET OCCUPIERS. (ARE THEY MERELY GHOSTLIKE, OR ARE THEY TRULY, AS THE SOVIETS CLAIM, ANGRY PHANTASMS?)
JAPAN- EITHER AN UNIMPORTANT NEUTRAL STATE, GRORIOUS NIPPON MECHA, OR ANCESTOR SPIRITS.

FUCK FIELD LENGTH LIMITS.
(CONT)

>>14949375
I did suggest something about the Japanese on the other thread
i will go search it and post

>>14949375

-THAT ONE JACKASS'S IDEAS ON JAPAN, AND THE GUY THAT AGREED WITH HIM
Let me explain about this Japanese Spirit Warriors. The way i see Japan in the WW2 years, was on a country heavly focused on Honoring their Ancestors and specialized on Suicide Tactics. So in this setting, they actually could talk with his ancestors, maybe with some help of their Nazi allies. So while the ancestor's will (on most times) will not fight directly on the wars, maybe they will be able to Buff the living Japanese, entering their bodies or their weapons. And with the discovery of the Ancestors, the whole Suicide Squad thing will grown to be bigger than ever, since they want to live eternally with his dead parent's spirit. And the spirits of the legendary warriors will be placed on Mechanic Bodies, helping directly in the combat

~I like this quite a lot actually, especially if it's left ambiguous as to whether the Anscestor spirits are actually what they say they are or whether they're actually Demons that the Nazis have roped into helping out, a la Unknown Armies. Spirits possessing guns and helping their descendants out by aiming them a little more carefully, and all that sort of thing. The Japanese government probably has instituted some sort of programme to increase fertility rates, to make up for the rates of soldiers who die. Although, with the setting probably having been in a Cold War-type of arrangement for some time, the Japanese might have a problem. They've raised a generation of people who want to die nobly in battle so they can join their ancestors and are being denied that chance. The Japanese could easily be a flashpoint for a future conflict.

I HATE FIELD LENGTH LIMITS
(cont)

wow, sure smells like summer in here

>>14949394
Oh okay, you found it first

>>14949394

CHINA: NO REAL IDEAS. EITHER SUBSUMED BY SOVIETS, OR SOVIET ALLY.

INDIA: TAKEN BY SOVIETS, FACED RESISTANCE. PROBABLE DEVA INTERFERENCE.

JEWS: HOLY SHIT, WE SHOULD HAVE GOLEM-MAKING JEWS. BUT IF THE NAZIS WON, WHERE THE HELL DO THEY LIVE?

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT FOR SEEDS, PEOPLE. LET'S HEAR SOME IDEAS. I'M GOING TO CONSIDER "THEATERS" FOR A FEW MINUTES.

>>14949405
I say China should be a Soviet Ally, heavly focused on Infantry troops, with millions and millions of Chineses, with a major part of them being clones that work on a determined part of the army

>>14949395
MAY I ASK IN WHAT WAY?
IS IT THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO CONTINUE THE NOBLE TRADITION /tg/ GETTING SHIT DONE? (I AM FULLY AWARE THAT THIS TRADITION IS AS FALSE AS ANY OTHER ONE, HOWEVER THAT'S TRUE OF ALL TRADITIONS, SO IT'S MOOT)
IS IT THAT I'VE BORROWED THE SCHTICK OF SHOUTING MATSU AND MR. RAGE TO DISTINGUISH MY POSTS?
IS IT THE QUALITY OF THE HOMEBREW?
YOUR OPINIONS WILL BE NOTED. POTENTIALLY NOT ACTED UPON, BUT NOTED.

>>14949404

I WAS GOING TO TAG IT ON TO THE INITIAL JAPAN REPORT, BECAUSE I LIKE YOUR IDEAS, AS A SYNTHESIS OF THE EXISTING CAMPS BUT FIELD LENGTH PREVENTED ME.

>>14949422
SO CHINA IS CLONES, CLONES EVERYWHERE? I LIKE THE CORE CONCEPT, BUT CAN WE INCREASE THE PUNCH OF IT? MAYBE CHINA FINDS THE EPITOME OF CERTAIN JOBS AND CLONES THEM, OR ABDUCTS PEOPLE IN VARIOUS GOVERNMENTS AND CLONES THEM. IT'S NOT JUST THAT CHINA HAS AN ENDLESS ARMY, BUT THAT EVERYTHING IT USES IS EXPENDABLE, BECAUSE OF THEIR INSANE GENETICS SKILLS.

>>14949422
I will try to expand this,So you guys knows that old stereotype that Chinese are all the same, herp derp.
So thanks to Glorious Soviet Technology, The Great Chairman Mao, now turned into a machine like his Soviet Allies, wanted to create the Greatest and Biggest Army that ever existed. So Now, There are Chinese Clones everywhere, with the premisse of War.
They're originally only made for battles, but if they stay for quite some time alive, let's say 30 years, wich is ridicously hard, they can have a normal life.
So the Chinese instead on focusing on Great Tanks, Demons and shit, instead focus heavly on the use of Infantry. So the have Hordes of Snipers, Granadiers, Medics and shit

>>14949500

China should still have it's civil war going on. The way I remember it was, the radioactive severed head of Mao fights against Chiang Kai-shek. You could work clones into that and just have it be like a never ending meat grinder with running gunbattles flying through the streets at all times.

>>14949542
I do believe that the setting it's years after the WW2. So the fight was probally already resolved.

Do you really need to type in all caps?
I mean like, I'd help but all these caps is offputting.

>>14949561
Well
HE IS an Yelling Asshole

>>14949534
So I'm guessing The Chinese have no qualms about stitching together huge nuclear powered abominations out of a dozens of clones?

>>14949560

Why? You could justify it any number of ways. Maybe there was a temporary cease fire after a period of stalemate only to have conflict flair up again randomly before reaching the current fever pitch. At the same time this allows for bad ass Hong Kong style gun fights and a certain area of bloody house to house combat. Every setting needs a place like that.

>>14948972
did you just say fucking goddamned SPIDERBEARS? oh fuck me, GAMEOVER MAN GAME OVER WE`RE FUCKED MAN WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?

>>14949572
Just another namefag wanting to be MR. RAGE. Can safely be ignored

>>14949561

I don't have to at all. and if it gains me another helper, then I'll stop

Though then my name, as pointed out, becomes a misnomer. THUS, my new name was born! Glorious mechano-Hitler.

>>14949615
I selected the Yelling Asshole persona mainly as a grab for attention. I will admit, Mr. Rage was an inspiration, as was Shouting Matsu, but in the main, the goal was to imbue my posts with an energy to motivate people to post, and actually get this shit done.

>>14949592
Fine, by me.
Maybe some of the Chinese population isn't happy with all the Cloning and shit and Summon The Help of Chiang Kai Shek

>>14949659

>>14949670
So what does Chiang Kai-shek bring to the people to oppose Mao's clone hordes?

Does he have some sort of mystic Confucianism? Does he have the still-living warriors of the Three Kingdoms beside him?
Is his kung-fu too powerful for mere shadow-men to defeat?

>>14949670
My WHole deal with this, is
if we insert the Clone deal, i can't see how it's possible on how the Rebelds have a chance on actually winning.
Maybe with some secret help of the Aussies

>>14949713
And Mr. Magi
Thank you Again for this awesome work

>>14949713
I like this file, and its name.

As my roommate would say, I like both your jib and the cut of it.

So, let's give Chiang Kai-Shek something that lets him stand against Mao's Clone troops.

And I will personally suggest that Mao's main use to his Soviet allies is the workforce his numbers provide, rather than their direct fighting prowess. Because Soviets using Chinese to build railroads to help them cross America amuses me.

I was around when this started up and I had an idea but I was told by a couple people that it might have been a little too out there. Basically the idea was this:

Tibet has become a completely sealed spiritual sanctuary. The holiest of monks sit in secret mountain temples and meditate constantly, their minds and spirits on the fringe of godhood in their own lands but powerless else where. They practice a secret style of temporal martial arts, it allows them to strike at their opponents not where they are weakest but when. The greatest masters among the order can strike a man in his fetal soul, erasing him from history. The average student can strike at your body in the past when it was relaxed and out of combat, at most a week in the past. However the more skilled one becomes the less time they are able to spend outside the sanctuary of their homeland. Still, disciples leave every day on quests to bring justice and enlightenment to a world swiftly going mad.

>>14949727

Captured cloning facilities, stolen technology, captured scientists. I think it's most interesting if both sides have it.

>>14949726
>>14949727
How about this, With the help of the Aussies(Or Britain, wich really i don't see them just doing whatever fuck they do in their respective places) They actually managed to revive some of the legendary warrior's of the past, and Give him more strenght if all the Cybernetics(Or Fey Powar).

Incluiding this guy

>It's...It's...

>>14949801
Chiang Kai-Shek probably got help from the Nazis.

And historically accurate to boot.

In other words, he probably using Terra cotta soul infused soldiers and channeling the spirits of ancient Chinese warlords, and Toaist powered magitech.

>>14949842

This is a good plan.
Screw what I said here.
>>14949819

>>14949842
Forget my Aussies/Britain idea
go with this

>>14949819
I agree, but feel there should be a difference in their styles. So how about:

Chiang Kai-shek has captured cloning facilities that he has given to his Australian allies to augment. The Australians, led by Scottish Scientist John Hammond, have given Chiang a powerful weapon in his modified clone facilities: While Mao's cloning centers use a standard soldier, who must be alive, Chiang's may use DNA from people long dead. This has increased hositilies between Chiang and Mao, as Chiang steal the bodies of ancient heroes to clone for his forces, leading to his global title "Chiang the Graverobber". These clones, while not entirely the skilled heroes their originators were, are still notably better than Mao's troopers. However, the extraction process takes longer.

So Mao has more, cheaper clones, while Chiang has quality over quantity.

>>14949837
And King Arthur and his Knights climb up out of their hill, leading a horde of rotting, grimly determined but mute Crusader soldiers.

>>14949842

The general consensus backs this as the idea behind Chiang Kai-shek, so we can ignore my post >>14949903.

So, in essence, China is just another theater for the Nazi-Soviet war, with Mao's science facing Chiang Kai-shek's magic.

As the initator and therefore arbiter of this, I will demand that one of the Terra-cotta Warriors be Lu Bu, since the general consensus was the return of ancient Chinese generals to back Chiang Kai-Shek.

China: Clones versus Clay Men.

I like it.

>>14949950
I say we go with this

The Jews should be allied with the Britains

>>14949950

instead of the bodies of famous heroes he imbues them with the souls?

I dont know why I drew this....but something about this thread compelled me to.

>>14949807
I'm not opposed to the plan, but I want to work with what we have before we introduce new stuff. Your idea will be noted, if we ever get to Tibet.

Now, if there are no complaints, I think we've got a solid grasp of China, so let me re-cap.

China: With the help of Soviet Science, Eternal Chairman Mao has truly made a People's Army, for his soldiers, from the generals to the troopers, are clones. With cloning facilities working night and day in China, Mao makes a Endless Army, to fight Constitutionalists, Nazis, and whoever else it pleases Mao to kill.
The clones in his service fight with all they have, for it is said that those who survive 30 years of War are granted peace, and become true citizens of China, their clone status revoked, and brought home to tend factories and live their lives.

Not that their lives are much safer in China, for one warzone is drawn in jagged lines across the country itself. Opposing Mao's self-proclaimed Eternal Reign is Chiang Kai-Shek. Educated in summoning by his Nazi Allies, Chiang summons the spirits of China's ancient heroes and warlords, and gives them a home in his Terra Cotta legions. This tireless warriors fight to free their people and land from Mao's rule, as clone and clay fight on China's streets. Rumors say that Chiang Kai-Shek's Daoist priest-wrights are building even more impressive magitech, only now reaching the hands of his favored generals.

>>14950041
OH God
Zombie Roosevelt
I'm So Scared right now

>>14950071
One example of Daoist power magitech would probably be guns and cannons that shoot souls.

>>14950071
Now that China's fleshed out, let's tackle another issue. Either one of the minor powers, or the whole "name" business.
That one anonymous suggested Pyre earlier.
Maybe "Pyre: Living in a World on Fire" or some such? But as I said before, it feels pretentious.

So, we wanna talk about names, or places? Afrika, South America, India, Japan, and the Finns and Jews all need work.

>>14950080
Zombie? Why, Theodore Roosevelt should be a GODKING. Let the other presidents be mystical zombie-lords. Theodore has asskicking beyond the grave to do.

wait... so the Americans are... a nation of zombies?

>>14950116

How about, Free Fall: The Game of a World Gone Mad.

>>14950128

If you're familiar with the concept, we're more Necropolitans. We retain our intelligence and will, while forgoing life. Mainly this is because we sacrifice that life to raise up a Founding Father, as I understood it. So, I'd be undead because my life was needed for Washington to walk once more.

I remember in the first threads there was talk of Andrew Jackson being currently up and mobile.

Another way to think of it is that the Founding Fathers (we use the term to generally mean resurrected Presidents) are like the Great Old Ones, and we their Deep One servants (we've become the terrible madness-inducing ones)

The Nazis, who summon DEMONS FROM HELL whisper stories about us and our terrible godkings.

>>14950116
South American should be Guerrilla Shamans
but really i have no idea how to expand this

>>14950159
And i Like Free Fall
The Subtitle should probally change

>>14950236

Maybe Nazi experiments gone awry and elevated apes now fight a genuine 'gorilla' war for freedom?

>>14950327
Gorrilla War
Oh my god
i laughed at that
Well Gorrilas are not native on South America, but i think that could work

When we were first making the Constitutionalists someone suggested that instead of Zombie Roosevelt it'd instead be Roosevelt inhabiting Mount Rushmore. Like, all of it. A giant mountain of moving death. I don't really like the idea, but it's fun to think about.

With Washington, the idea was having him be all his modern reputation suggests, and more. He's America's iconic culture-hero, with hundreds of stories and legends about him. We wanted to sort of capture and invert that feel, making him the most mysterious and terrible of all the Founding Lords. He can't be bound for long, so an undead Senator (Lich, basically) has to sacrifice himself to allow Washington to inhabit his body for a bit before burning it to a crisp through the strength of his malevolent power. He speaks quietly, but where he walks, terror follows.

Of course, "Silent Death" Cal was always my favorite.

Some of ideas for Free Britain - perhaps every so often they show up, esp former colonies, surrounded by mist and fog and basically initiate a Wild Hunt? Could lead to tensions with the Aussies who've apparently turned their back on their Queen?

>>14950395
I Like the idea of the Founding Fathers being almost complete Alien to the whole world, incluiding the demons

>>14950395

Of course, that was a lot of the idea behind the design for the Constitutionalists. Take all the American stereotypes, jack them up to 11, then cast them through a dark and shattered mirror. The idea is for the Constitutionalists to still be recognizably, even offensively, American, but really warped at the same time. The Russians are all about SOVIET SCIENCE FUCK YEAR and FOR THE MOTHERLAND, with Nazi Germany taken to its illogical extreme as well, but the Americans are all about good ideas taken way, way too far, killed, and then resurrected in a shambling undead body powered by souls and dark science.

The biggest point of contention around the Constitutionalists was regarding timeframe. When should the game be set? As they're first emerging as a cult in the blasted wastelands of central America? As they've solidified control over the mid-west and have begun pushing back the Nazi and Soviet invaders? After they've completely dominated the North American continent and started conquering South America with vampire Jackson at its head? We could never really come to a point of agreement there.

>>14950518

How about this, Every State of USA will be a Zone of one of the Dead Presidents. While all fight for the USA, they rarely lives together, because just one of them living together already corrupts the land almost completly.
So they have like, 1 President for State, sometimes 1 President have a bigger area of control, like Washington and Lincoln, and rarely 2 Presidents live in the same area

>>14950479

That's how it ended up in the later threads, yes. They're completely alien to the rest of the world, and the Constitutionalists are perhaps the most "alien" of the major factions. Every single member is either dead or aspires to die, and America is basically a nuclear wasteland further dead-ified by sanity-blasting Necromantic magic. They don't see anything wrong with lining up hordes of zombies to salute the flag and groan out the national anthem, under God and all, and that's where the cognitive dissonance and the overall alienness really kicks in.

>>14950574

That falls into the whole "when is this thing set" problem. Personally, I like the idea of the Constitutionalists only really holding America's heartland, basically from Utah to Kentucky, because it allows the Soviets the West Coast and the Nazis the East and provides a lot of room for conflict without having to shift continents.

I like the idea that not all of the Founding Father's are in Human Bodies. Some are a Collection of Dead Eagles, Some Are Giant Decrepyt Statues.
They're Still Think, Talk, but aren't Humans Anymore

>>14950574
So is every single Dead President (up to a certain point in setting-relevant time) going to be present in some capacity? Because the more there are, the better the following idea works:

Having gained tremendous, almost god-like power in undeath through the adulation and hero-worship of the whole of American society, the Dead Presidents' return to the mortal plane was thought to herald a swift victory for the Constitutionalists. However, the old adage that power corrupts even the best of men was once again proven true. Promising Equality through Undeath but in reality a unified force in name only, the Constitutionalists have become fractious and divided, with each President a selfish lich-governor plotting against his fellows for further opportunities to impose their political views. It is only the iron rule of the Founding Lords and the unicameral, unipartisan National Council of Congress that prevents another Civil War, allowing the Constitutionalists to mount any sort of cohesive stand at all against Nazi and Soviet encroachment. A sort of eternal stand-off has resulted from this situation, a war as cold as the grave--while the Constitutionalists remain divided, the Nazis and Soviets retain their holdings on the east and west coasts, but cannot make any significant further gains. For should a threat arise great enough to force the Dead Presidents to end their squabbling and set their sights on international conquest, the world itself may be doomed.

>>14951057
Basically, the Dead Presidents collectively wield enough sheer power to tip the balance of power and conquer most of the known world, but will never unite of their own accord to do so. This means that the Nazis and Soviets can't push any further in, as the Constitutionalists are still powerful enough to keep them at bay while they fight amongst themselves, and if they were provoked hard enough they would retaliate.

Some corrections as well:
Lich-senator sounds better than lich-governor, and fits in better with what I'm trying to portray. What do you guys think, though?
Equality Through Undeath For All Mankind is the extended slogan. Has a nice ring to it given the feeling we're going for.

>>14951110
And the reason for the internal strife is that each Dead President has a different interpretation of the Constitution, kind of like different religious denominations. Each has a sort of separate cult, who summon their separate lord into existence on necessary occasions: to personally lead the charge or combat an opposing President, during the convocations of the National Council of Congress, etc.

Some random Writefaggotery, sorry for the possible bad english and text

That was George first time seeing that man in person. Since his death, George skills turned him into a captain and he was very proud it. Fighting for America, Having a good position on the Dead Army, that was all he wanted on all of his death. But he never saw one of them, the ones who leadered all of this resistance, The Founding Father's of America.

There are inumerous legends about them. According to some just looking in the eye of one of them is sufficient to make you melt. The Greatest Man on Earth and the Scariest.Everyone want to meet them but are Dead Scared about the idea of meeting them. But John not only saw one of them, but saw the most important of them.

In the middle of a battle against that dirty commies, George and his comrades were losing the battle. The enemy had enourmous tanks, powerful technology enough to destroy the America defenses, George for a second was worried. He did hold well the line but that was too much for him. He for a second, thought everything was over. And for a second he tought: What happens with the Dead after they die?

>>14951235
Then, it happened. The world felt heavier, in slow motion, and for a time the Soviets felt the same, and suddenly they knew that something was coming. And then on the horizon behind the captain he appeared. Wearing old clothes, with white hair, and carrying a bloodied axe on his right hand, he walked slowly, but surely, in the the direction of the warfare. And each step he did, the pressure the combatents felt was becoming heavier and heavier.
There he was.
In all his Dead Glory, The Original Father
George Washington

George never felt so terrified on all his life & death. The sole presence of the president was enough to make some soviet runs away, but they couldn't run from him, almost death incarnate. And with only a look all of the Soviet Soldiers died of shock. The soviets tanks tried to retaliate, but none bullet could reach the body of the founding father. And with only one movemente of the hand, Washington Axe, was sent flying actually destryoing all of the soviet technology and suddenly appearing on the president's hand.

The whole thing dured 2 seconds. 2 Seconds and a whole battalion of the Soviet army was annihilated. And the captain George could only look. He tried to speak something, but none words left out of his mouth. He tried to move, but his body didn't responded to him anymore.Washington approached to him, the only left in the battlefield and said slowly.-

- George Smith Patton Jr, you serve your country well
And for one second Patton looked at the president's eyes. And his whole mind was shaken. What he saw was one of the most beaultiful and horrible things he ever saw in his life. He remembers everynight, but can't explain to nobody. The sole memoirs of that make he cries of joy and fear. And then he the president spoke once gain.
Keep on Doing your best work.


Yeah
I'm really not a good write, but whatahell

>>14951244
And with those words, the president dissapeared. Patton mind was broken. He felt joy, fear, love, terror, respect and the principal of all: Pride to be an American. He was never the same, but god damnit he fought better than ever.


And it's over, only a quick text.
And i completely botched that

>>14951259
No shame, son. If you're brave enough to contribute meaningfully to /tg/, you've earned some respect. The main idea was pretty awesome anyway...now you're making me imagine an undead Teddy Roosevelt leading a massive Rough Rider charge, skeletal horses and everything, against a spearhead of Soviet supertanks and/or mecha.

"The iron men burned the edge of all Western civilization, Los Angeles to the ground. The demon 'men' have done far worse to to once beautiful New York.

Both will come to regret it. You have my word, men. I've fought many a battle while I had a pulse. I know how a man under fire thinks. I know how he feels. I even know of the pants soiling sensations from a bullet a mere inch from your ear.


I know war.


And I know how to kill these pussies. ARRRGHHHHHHHHgGHGHGHGHGH"


"And with that, son, the big man himself roused his noble steed and charged the bastards, leading the mad ash of the toughest sunsovbitches who ever came to this land. I swear boy, you ain't never seen a real fight until you seen Roosevelt punch out a walking tank while his mount digs its claws into the poor bastard inside"

"Wowee that's cool and all, but papa, horses don't have claws?"

"I never said he had horses boy. This is an old land boy. There are spirits here, buried deep, just waiting for the right man. They figure that man was old Teddy."

"I don't understand pap?"

"Bears son. Great big fuckin' bears. Who needs horses when you got yourself undead bears?"


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All very rough. Literally just wrote it up there before bed. Ignore the typos, wasn't sure on doing a story purely through dialog, or how confusing switching from Roosevelts prebattle speech to a solider recounting it would be but eh.

>>14951402
Thank you
my problem with writing for the Dead Presidents, it's i'm not american, so i don't know shit about them

>>14951402
"I bet they told you it'd be a cakewalk coming over the Bering and serving here in America, son. I bet the propagandist comrades did a fine job reassuring you of Constitutionalist decadence, of how the Dead Presidents are so divided by their own greed that they won't even lift a finger to help their own. Well, there's both truth and lies in all that. And Lenin damn the commissars, someone's got to tell you young pups what's what. Let's just keep all this to ourselves, though, shall we?"

"Pass me the vodka, son...I need a little reinforcement to tell the next bit."

"Ahh, that's good stuff...cold as a long winter back in the Motherland, and twice as bitter."

"But no matter what they tell you back in the Motherland, there are some things that freeze the blood in your veins quicker than standing naked in a Siberian snowstorm. Seeing your best friend torn to shreds by a Marx-damned Nazi demon is one. Receiving word that the Rule Britannia’s been detected within twelve miles of your transport ship out in the middle of the Pacific is another. And the worst of all is seeing an entire regiment of the Rough Riders come charging straight at you, with Roosevelt himself at their head."

So
Minor Factions, Anyone have a suggestion on them?
someone said about Gorilla Warfare to South America, but really if anything they should be Afrika faction

>>14951624
YES
ROUGH RIDERS UNDEAD GRIZZLY BEAR CAVALRY
10/10, I CAME BUCKETS, ALL THE REST

>>14951738
FOR AMERICA GENTLEMANS

Ok, really
what i don't get with Free Britannia it's.
They're Normal Soldiers?
They Have Fey Spec Ops Squads?
really whats their gimmick besides, they're in a submarine?
i know the Queen have Fey powers and shit, but how that transitions to the normal people

>>14951859

The normal people are just, well, seamen. Living under the awesome and terrible rule of their Dread Queen. There was some pretty good writefaggotry in, mmm, thread 3, I believe.

>>14951859
I think the whole thing about the remnants of the population aboard the Rule Britannia is that nobody knows very much at all about them. There's a significant amount of rampant speculation, and the higher-ups of the various factions have a certain amount of intel, but most people just know about the dangers that befall convoys way out in the open ocean, and the fae raiding parties and Wild Hunts that terrorize coastal communities the world over.

Also, are we gonna archive this?

If the whole Land of the Free and home of the BRAAAAAAIIIINS!!! (zombie America) thing is still not definitely in I would like to propose a different solution to the America problem. Have you ever read American Gods? Yeah. The Anericans have the gods on their side. Which gods? ALL OF THEM. Americanized versions, the gods that people brought over from the Old Country. The Faeries of England, the Aesir, the Pookas, the Chinese dragons, the forest spirits, everything that people believed in, with new American forms. Fighting off the Nazi demons and Soviet robots with the power of belief. But the zombie one is good too.

Also, Canada should be an uninhabitable wasteland. Very post-apocalyptic. With mutants. And Mexico should defend itself with drugged super-soldiers in service to the Cartels. Secret serums made out of desert plants that enhance the strength and destroy the mind. The carribean should be a necromantic stronghold.

>>14952011
most certanly yes
>>14952014
really, while i do enjoy American Book
i think the Founding Fathers one of the strong points of the whole setting.

The Cartel idea on the other hand is pretty awesome

So what's the name?
Deathworld?
Pyre?
Freefall?

>>14952060
I was thinking that the Cartels' land would expand through most of northern South America. And in the amazon... Who knows? No soldiers sent in there ever comes back with his wits intact. But those who come back, mad from the heat and bugs, tell tales of trees that walk, and rivers that come alive and swallow men like a snake swallows a rat. If they should ever decide to take back the land that humans burned, claimed for the use of cows and corn, nobody would be able to stop the fury of nature.

>>14952102
Did they even have Cartels in the 40s/50s?

Please don't just randomly add things that sound cool if it calls into question the accuracy of the setting.

>>14952014
Alright, grand census of what we have here:

Diabolist Nazi Germany, where battle-sorcerers summon aid in the form of demons from hell

Mechanized Soviet Russia, where incredible advances in science have given them nuclear-powered supertanks, mecha, power-armored crack squadrons, etc.

Mao Zedong's Soviet-aided Clone China, where legions of clone soldiers are given the promise of peaceful citizenship after serving 30 years minimum in the army
Chiang Kai-shek's Nazi-aided Sorcerous China, where legions of terracotta soldiers are magically animated and sent into battle

Necromantic Constitutionalist America, where the Dead Presidents vie for control of the continent and clash with invaders in the form of Nazis on the East Coast and Soviets on the West Coast

Aquatic Britain, where the remnants of the Old Country's population live beneath the surface on the giant submarine Rule Britannia under the Dread Queen of the Fae, who strikes out at the drylanders with fae raiders and Wild Hunts

Isolated New Australia, probably even more technologically advanced than the Soviets, but more focused on maintaining their holdings in Antarctica and expanding their reach upwards and outwards into space

>>14952149
Don't quote me on that
but if i understand it correctly
the whole setting it's years after the WW2

>>14952179
And Japanese Spirit Wizards, don't forget them

So my ideas were:

Apocalyptic Canada - a hellhole distorted by the nukes of the Soviets and the magics of the Nazis, Canada is filled with mutated beasts and insane wizards who make travel through there hazardous to say the least.

Central American Cartels (can be Renamed) - Drug lords who had there personal chemists make serums to increase the strength of their soldiers. They control armies of super-soldiers whose bodies have been twisted by drugs and surgery into something more - and less - than men.

Amazonian elementals - In the depths of the amazon, soldiers who have returned from the deep forest, addled by heat and bugs, tell tales of walking trees and snake-like rivers. If these stories are true, then who - or what controls these things? And what has stopped them from reclaiming the land for the forest?

>>14952297
It's possible we could throw elements of Canada with Britain in some manner just because of how closely tied together they were during WW2.

>>14952297
I say Shamans in Amazons controlling elements.
A Eternal Forest. The Soviets send a bomb there, later the whole forest grows back

And African tribalist geno-shamans who wage...

...wait for it...

GORILLA WARFARE

Oh, and for a name, how about "Fortress Europe"? That was used to describe the Nazis new kingdom, and it sounds as good as anything.

>>14952341
Shamans controlling the elementals sounds good.

>>14952346
>Gorilla Warfare
FUCK YEAH DUDE
CHEST BUMP

>>14952366
It sounds cool.
but really
We're expanding the world so much that the best we could name is
Warzone:Earth

>>14952346
Anyone knows how to expand this?

>>14950159
That's a good name, it could work

>>14950236
Alright, so let's target South America.

What we know: it's one of the main Theaters of the "War". It's been suggested that Soviets be stronger here than Germans. Personally, I like the idea of Germany holding Brazil, or what remains of Brazil. The Soviets hold another wide swath, and the natives fight them both as Guerilla Shamans.

Now, is there a large expatriate population? Forming a mercenary nation to the North? Something like, pic related?

How about this.
Up in the north, the far north, the last free scandinavians and canadians have been forced to live in the uncomprimising arctic from the threats of the soviets and the nazis.
In an effort to survive, they have called upon the spectral beings that haunt the frozen wastes to help them protect their new homeland.

Now, the arctic is an impenetrable fortress, if you somehow manage to navigate the maze of ice, the ghostly warriors will strike, their icy souls steeled with inhuman determination to drive out all intruders.

Basically, what I'm saying is that Scandinavia and Canada are hidden in the north, like the australians in the south, but they defend themselves with spirits and ghost soldiers, instead of hyper-advanced technology

>>14952618
..and that's what happens when you lose internet for 3 hours, you get left behind.

Ecstatic to see we've been progressing while I was incommunicado, however.

For now, I'm going to call the setting Spirit of War, at least for the purposes of archival, which I will attempt to initiate...in 15 seconds.

>>14952618
Dude you evapored for a while.
Germany will probally have atleast the south of Brazil, considerating the huge numbers of germans and itallians imigrants there.
The Amazon Forest, will be dominated by the eternal forest, where inside Shamans live controlling the elements.
While Soviet may have control over a shitloead of countries, they still have to fight Day by day, not only against Germany but against the Biological Super Soldiers of the Kartel

>>14952080

I am a fan of Free Fall.

Soooooo, all of this cam from a picture of soviet Obama...


How does soviet Obama fit into all of this?

>>14952877

An officer born in Soviet-controlled America, fighting for the MOTHERLAND! A likely direct line to any Soviet PCs or all-Soviet party. He hands them orders to fight/sabotage the Nazis, the Constitutionalists, or whatever.

Before i go to sleep.
i say in the Afrika faction, they not only goes around making friends with intelligent gorillas and shit, they use alot of other animals to help them, hunt and go to war, using Tribal Paintings that boost powers on them.

Some of the Animals are of course
Hyenas

>>14952877
One of the Great Generals of the Glorious Soviet Empire, on the American Front

>>14952904
>born in Soviet-controlled America
ohyou.jpg

>>14952877

That was the picture that originally spawned the setting.

>>14952950
Yes Hawaii was captured by the Soviets

>>14952904

Okay, that's pretty cool

Another question.
Who's allied with who? I can see the Chinese alliances with soviets and nazis and I assume that Rule Brittania is powered and fed by New Australian SCIENCE, but what other alliances are there?

>>14953543
Actually, Free Britain is powered by Fae sorcery.

As far as allies go, it's mostly just
Nazis - Chiang Kai-Shek
Soviets - Mao

Everyone else is fighting against both these war machines. They're not allies, but they're the enemy of their enemy.

Hmm. This thread could use a little more pep.

Let's continue our talk on South America. I like the direction we've been going. The main players in South America:

The Soviets: How specifically are they adapting to the South American terrain? What weapons have they specialized?

The Nazis: As above, but with sorcery. It'd be pretty awesome if the South American Nazi contingents went Aztec blood-magic to fight the natives.

The Gorillas/Guerillas: Shamans, elementals, and sapient animals all fighting to protect the secrets of the Amazon.

The Cartels (I liked it too much to reject): Drug dealers, mercenaries. Thanks to the Zimmerman agreement, and Cuban cigar-trade, the Cartels have established an armistice with both the Soviets and the Nazis. Bands of them can be hired to sabotage outposts on either side, and their super-serumed soldiers are not to be discounted.

So, let's play with these factions for a time.

>>14953645

I imagine Soviet forest tech would be more focused on removing forest rather than navigating it, so I expect South American setting would be filled with suits and tanks with giant saws and flamethrowers.

They didn't fight to win. No, that was impossible. They fought to hold the line just long enough to get the attention of those that could. They'd heard stories, stories of their heroes reborn as gods. They'd been visited by men speaking on behalf of dead presidents, offering un-life eternal for the chance to bring them back, righteous and unstoppable. And once half the state volunteered the other half had to join in; that's democracy.

No, they fought only to hold the line. Against forces this far superior to them they didn't have much of a chance. It helped that they were tireless, needed neither sleep nor sustenance, but what little ground they gained while their enemy ate and slept was quickly lost back to superior firepower. They held the line, and they waited.

And before long, their grim vigil was rewarded: On the horizon a pale glow began to appear. Abraham Lincoln, wielding the pistol that killed him and attended by the ghosts of thousands of freed slaves, marched over the horizon. As he came into sight he bellowed "You'll not see the sun set this day!"

President Lincoln, as you may know, cannot tell a lie.

>>14953645
From what I understand, the point of the Cartels is to boost their people with custom drugs and possibly dangerous surgeries.

Think Frankenstein's monster on PCP.

>>14954616
Awesome Writefaggotery
personally i would make Abraham carrying his Henry Rifle

>>14954821

Or Bane, but yes, that was my understanding.

Well, gentlemen, it's been a good day's work on this, but I have to sleep, so I can clean my place tomorrow.

I will probably try to start another thread Wednesday.

So keep to it, and get some more ideas out there.

>>14953645
Really
the Gorrila part, was transfered to Afrika.
>>14955691
anyway, good night, it was fun