bump

I still think the Chapter MAster, or at least a Daimyo should have a Kagemusha backstory.

Such is, though.

>>15052886
That looks cool, but... nothing like a space marine...

>>15052931
....Except that it's a Rising Son Chaplain.

>>15052952
Chaplains are space marines.
I'm pretty sure we established RS chaplains as looking normal except for the power naginatas and cowls over their helmets.

>>15052886

Except the first time I saw that was a request thread, and it was for a Buddhist chapter. The requester later went on to Bolter and Chainsword to work on an Eastern chapter as counts-as Grey Knights. Many ideas of which clashing over the nationality. I believe they left off on Chinese?

>>15053041
So it's not really associated with the Rising Sons.

So... You've created the Weeaboo Marines?

That's great. That's really great.

That's juuust...

Swell.

>>15053114
>Using weeaboo improperly.

Summerfag ho- oh wait, people have been doing that for years. Feels bad, man...

Muju drew that drawing when asked to draw a Buddhist Space Marine.

>>15053114
No, we created marines from a culture that resembles a mash-up of WWII era japan and sengoku era japan

Typical japanese faggotry + lame-as-fuck generic space marines + less-than-brilliant writing = THE RISING SONS

>>15053268
>nofun.jpg

>>15053268
Ashamed closet weeaboo that compensates for his self-loathing by lashing out at anything Japan-related detected!

>>15055581
>>15055603
>>15053213
>>15053170
You're white, and you created the grolious Nippon marines. Complete with katanas folded a trillion times.
GG, /tg/. GG.

>>15055643
And they are somehow out of place alongside space marines modeled after Romans, Vikings, Mongols, the Knights Templar, etc. etc. etc.?!
Is there a rule where we have to hate everything related to Japan because anime sucks? What fucking website do you think you're on?!

>>15055679
REMIND ME WHICH OF THOSE LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TO OTHER MARINES IN EVERY WAY.
REMIND ME ABOUT THOSE BOWS AND ARROWS THE WHITE SCARS USE, AND THE ULTRAMARINES' PILA.

People who point out that this thread is weeaboo is the same as those who shout FOR THE EMPRAH IRL, in public, without being ashamed about it.
They are both embarassing themselves without knowing it.

>>15055735
Gee, I'm so embarrassed that I have lost the respect of a bunch of weeaboos.

>>15055756
Weeaboo doesn't mean "anyone who likes japan."

>>15055733
You mean the scimitars the White Scars use? And the rune-covered viking-style axes the Space Wolves use? And the Roman-style leather belts the Ultramarines wear? Or their helmet plumes, also in Roman fashion?
What about the medieval-style helmets that the Black Templars and Grey Knights often wear?

>>15055756
I don't think you quite understand what weeaboo means. How long have you been here?

>>15055766
Answer the question. None of those are more than superficial changes to preexisting armor. And again, show me the White Scar's bows and the Ultramarines' pila.
Unlike this
>>15052952
abomination.
Scimitars were not Mongol weapons, either.

>>15055776
Five years. Long enough to know that it's no longer a fucking anime website, so don't try that excuse.
>>15055763
It means particularly pathetically obsessed Japanfags. It's like making Indian marines and giving them fucking turbans.

>>15052952
...Why in the fuck would a techpriest be wearing Japan-styled robes? It's not like they integrate into the society they're in. That kind of adornment would be seen as spitting in the face of Mechanicus dogma.

>>15055808
The picture you're referring to was somewhat else's adaptation of the Mantis Warriors. Somewhat of an inspiration of the Rising Sons' style, but we try to keep it strictly classic space marine style, with a few armor tweaks, as many chapters have. You know, SUPERFICIAL CHANGES TO PRE-EXISTING ARMOR.
And the Mongols did eventually use scimitars in their history. Their empire did span across Central Asia, Persia and the Middle East, after all.
Your butthurtness only seems to come from the idea of a Japan related space marine chapter. What's so horrible about Japan, again?

>>15055832
>It means particularly pathetically obsessed Japanfags.

Except that's not the case. Your hate for weeaboos has made you quick to judge anyone who takes interest in anything related in Japan. Get over yourself.

>>15055862
It's the awful way you went about it.
Seriously, RISING SONS?
What's next, the TOMAHAWK BRAVES?
The DREAM TIMERS?

>>15055918
>Seriously, RISING SONS?
>Seriously, ULTRAMARINES?
You pick the strangest fucking things to complain about. If this were inspired by anything but Japan, I doubt you'd be flipping your shit nearly as hard.

>>15055918
>TOMAHAWK BRAVES
GUYS
GUYS
I HAVE CRAZIEST IDEA RIGHT NOW

>>15055974
I would, because it would be full fucking retarded.
At least the ULTRA MARINES aren't the LATIN LEGIONARIES.

>>15055997
No, they're a pun on Ultra Marine and ultramarine,a dye used to make the color blue. That's better?

>>15055997
>I would, because it would be full fucking retarded.
Sure you would. Keep telling yourself that.
>At least the ULTRA MARINES aren't the LATIN LEGIONARIES.
Instead they're the ultramarine Ultra Marines: the Ultramarines.

>>15056032
To be exact, they were named after the acrylic paint used on the models.

>>15055918
Holy shit, we can't make our chapter name a cheezy pun, but you're okay with the 40k poster boys having a pun that's infinitely lamer? You're only butthurt because you think everything vaguely related to Japan is on the same level as anime-obsessed wapanese. Get the fuck out.

>>15056065
Name a single chapter that is a pun on its cultural basis. One.

>>15056073
Why the fuck does it matter?! Why are cultural puns so abhorrent, compared to puns referring to armor color and mary sue status?

>>15056073
Wow, you're really grasping for straws, now... You should thank your lucky stars you're anonymous. You'd never live this thread down.

>>15056073
1. Rising Sons isn't a pun. Puns are jokes, this name isn't a joke. Its a reference.

2. It doesn't matter.

3. Every single instance of angel, knight or templar is the same exact thing as Rising Sons. A reference to the source material for the fluff.

>>15056094
Because it just doesn't fit.
The rest are [insert culture here] in space but DIFFERENT. See the Blood Angels being Italian vampire angels or the Space Wolves being Viking werewolves.
You are making the JAPAN MARINES. If they had any substance outside WE ARE JAPANESE IN CASE YOU HAD NOT NOTICED, maybe it would be as retarded.

Christ on a fucking crutch people.

If I wanted to play fucking Nips in space I would play Tau.

I can't believe someone is butthurt enough to attack this idea. You 40kfags are cancer.

>>15056139
Tau are chinks.
Eldar are japs.

>>15056165

Fuck em, both of em are slant eyed gook cocksuckers.

>>15056176

And...

/thread.

>>15056128
>Rising Sons isn't a pun. Puns are jokes, this name isn't a joke. Its a reference.

Wrong. A pun is a play on words. In this case it is a play on the "Rising Sun", which is a cultural symbol of Japan. But instead of Sun, it's Sons, as in "Sons of the Emperor."
Seriously, stop posting. Every post you make gets dumber and dumber.

>>15056133
It's a fan chapter. No one's petitioning GW to make this shit canon. Don't like it? Hide the thread and don't participate, instead of shitting up the thread with your inane bullshit.

But... but... but my Japan obsession is unique and speshuuuullll!!!!!111

I don't see why things like the Emperor's Nightmares are absolutely fine, but when someone even raises a hand in the direction of an oriental influence the shrill cries of morons can be heard throughout the land.

>>15056133
>If they had any substance outside WE ARE BLUE IN CASE YOU HAD NOT NOTICED
>If they had any substance outside WE ARE FURRY VIKINGS IN CASE YOU HAD NOT NOTICED
>If they had any substance outside WE ARE VAMPIRES IN CASE YOU HAD NOT NOTICED
>If they had any substance outside WE ARE 'BLACK'SMITHS IN CASE YOU HAD NOT NOTICED
You are getting unbelievably butthurt over something so trivial. I think you might not be suited for 40K if you're getting this serious about it. I hope you get exactly this angry over things like Angry Marines, Pretty Marines, Meximarines, Reasonable Marines, etc.

Shit, there's that one Imperial Guard regiment that's basically just furry-hat Russians. Better hop on that.

>>15056195
...Why would you think a post arguing FOR the NIPPON MARINES would be me?

>>15056195
>implying that poster has posted more than once.

>>15056211
So, good gentleman, I propose we ignore the young heathen low-brains and the trolls, and continue fluffing the chapter. So, anything needs fluffing out or are we Cave Johnsoning it?

HALO DRAGONS are canon.

>>15056211
I actually was turned off them after everyone started working to make them as sooper speshul as possible.
>>15056219
You didn't read my post, did you?
Every one you named has some form of characterization other than BEING BLUE or BEING VAMPIRES. These do not. They're just the HONOLABRE SAMURAI MARINES with literally nothing else to them.

>>15056234
Shut your face, you pompous twit.

>>15056249
We read your post and discounted it. As you obviously haven't read about the chapter. And they are the children of the MONGOL MARINES and have "SRSLY THISN ISN'T Genghis Khan" as their primarch.

Be anusburned elsewhere.

>>15056249
>Every one you named has some form of characterization other than BEING BLUE or BEING VAMPIRES. These do not.
Holy shit. I see it all now. This recently-made chapter doesn't have much going on for it right now. I wonder what the point of these threads could be...

What's their major flaw?

>>15056283
Six threads, and still the JAP MARINES.
You don't seem to be trying very hard.

>>15056234
Writefaggotry, drawfaggotry, some more minor fuff add-ons. As the OP said.
Enough with the butthurt; ignore them. Let's focus on our SUPER SPESHUL NIPPON MARINES in peace. Haters gonna hate.

>>15056302
What the fuck more do you want from them? Christ, all you're doing is bitching about that they're based on the Samurai and somehow they're more one-dimensional than the canon chapters. Yet you've somehow forgotten to list what exactly makes the canon chapters so much less one-dimensional than this.
Seriously, man. Fuck off.

The shrill cries of WEEABOO are pretty retarded since /tg/ has been discussing this chapter for 5 threads already and no one's been particularly against it before. But I fear some of the more eloquent trolls do have a point. Let me clarify.

Even thought White Scars are pretty clearly MONGOLS IN SPACE and Space Wolves are VIKINGS IN SPACE, fluffwise, those chapters aren't really that close to the cultures they reference. There's a bunch of thematic references, like names and weapons, but the chapter fluff doesn't mirror the historical source material. I mean, the Wolves don't have a guy named Erik the Red or something. The Khan of the White Scars isn't a carbon copy of Genghis, he has his own story and myth.

In the same way, I think we should strive to distance the Rising Sons from actual Japanese history and myth. That means not carbon-copying actual historical characters to become Marine leaders. It means working more to adapt Japanese influences to 40k, and not vice versa. I think we need to be more subtle.

>>15056329
Jesus fuck, thank you.
Maybe this won't go the way of the Emperor's Nightmares and end up being "LET'S SEE HOW AWESOME AND DIFFERENT WE CAN MAKE OUR CHAPTER".

We still haven't decided how to represent the Ainu.
So gentlemen, what shall we do. Maybe make them the original colonists from Fenris?

>>15056352

Exodite Eldar. A minor settlement that has been nearly wiped out by humans, only scattered tribes remain on the planet.

>>15056329
I agree, but I like what we have so far. This is a non-canon fan-made chapter. A few historical references is not going to be the end of the world. And I was the guy trying to discourage talk of bow-bolters and sengoku-style warfare.
We need to remember that these are space marines first and samurai second. So while it might be acceptable to make certain officer marines a but more flamboyant with the samurai influence, the average marine should definitely resemble the average space marine over samurai. A few superficial add-ons would be acceptable, though.

>>15056352
As an aside, possibly make the Ainu the most likely to produce psykers. Not liked for the tendency, but tolerated because of their usefulness.

>>15056352
>>15056363
We don't have to represent the Ainu. See: >>15056329 Making some historical references here and there are all well and good, but we're not taking every single detail of Japanese history and culture and transplanting it into 40k.

>>15056381
But-but fluff! Tasty glorious fluff!

>>15056329

More flavor in favor of 40k would certainly help. For instance, those Katanas and similar?

Fuck those, nobody wants to see a Katana in 40k. Either go chainsword or similar 40kish weapon. Katanas are right fucking out.

>>15056381
>We don't have to represent the Ainu
We don't HAVE to do anything. One poster's opinion is just that. There's no reason to not be receptive to ideas since it can always be edited or removed later, much like 40K fluff generally is.

>>15056384
How about we try to make some original fluff, instead of using just Japanese history as a template? The Akechi Betrayal and Divine Favor stories are all well and good, but let's branch out a bit, shall we? Otherwise, we're going to find ourselves discussing how to shoehorn unnecessary shit like the Meiji Restoration into the fluff. It says their arch enemy is the Tau. How about we flesh that out? And try not make it too obviously history-based.

>>15056403
We don't fucking need Ainu.

>>15056411
Why not both? Its fluff after all. Theres no limit, especially since this is the sixth thread now.

>>15056393

I can accept a [Name] Pattern Powersword, which could look similar to a katana to an extent and be used by local guard units and Marine Scouts but it's not that important to me. It is an iconic weapon that I'd like to see, but it should not have any different statlines or whatever.

>>15056413
We don't fucking NEED anything. Take the stick out of your ass.

>>15056393
>Fuck those, nobody wants to see a Katana in 40k. Either go chainsword or similar 40kish weapon. Katanas are right fucking out.

No. Katanas are just power swords. They're nothing special, just artificial. The Rising Sons use chain swords and the like as well, but if someone's using a power sword, it's just shaped like a katana. Just like how the White Scars use power scimitars and the Space Wolves use power axes. Hell, the Space Wolves have a chain axe unique to their chapter!

>>15056420
It's completely arbitrary and adds nothing whatsoever.

>>15056393
>Fuck those, nobody wants to see a Katana in 40k.

Better tell the Eldar...

>>15056411
>>15056403

You see this shit? Shit like this is what makes fanwankery like this into utter fucking garbage. Yes, we could include every single event from Japanese history into making the Rising Sons worthy of nothing less than the second coming of Fat Man and Little Boy, or we could make it something decent.

Let's try that. Perhaps saying fuck the samurai idea except for penitent quests and similar. Going solo on a quest to restore honor or other shit would make sense for them to revert more to their homeworlds style. As it is now, all we have is something people will look at and go "Herp derp, ching chong ping pong" at.

>>15056426
Welcome to the world of fluff.

Seriously, do these guys have any major flaw yet? Every chapter has to have a flaw of some kind, be it a military one or a personality one.

Hows about a complete lack of concern for humanities safety and those in their personal care? A human looks at a Rising Son the wrong way, or doesn't show him adequate deference, and he might cop a bolter shell to the skull.

A civilian who doesn't step out of a Rising Son's path will be violently thrown out of the way, and the civilian populations under their personal protection live in fear of earning the displeasure of the Chapter.

On the subject of Ainu, I don't think we should be focusing on that. We really should be trying to get some original fluff ideas instead of asking ourselves, "What aspect of Japan have we not shoehorned into this chapter's fluff, yet?"

>>15056443
Sounds about right.

>>15056443

Oh just like real samurai!

OOH! Next we can go around the corner and play pikachu!

Dude, it's grimdark, nobody gives a fuck about anyone else at all. You want a flaw? Fine, perhaps they cannot harvest the second Progenoid gland and can only utilize the original glands.

>>15056443
>>15056470
So the White Scars have a geneseed flaw? Those usually carry over.

>>15056470
Actually I was thinking more of the French aristocracy.

>>15056470
That flaw in particular is rare for a Space Marine, actually.

>>15056443

Well, the Rising Sons are accustomed to ruling with an iron fist. They're all recruited from a highly disciplined warrior caste. Elsewhere in the Imperium, government and the military is separate for the most part, but in the Yamato subsector government _is_ the military. And they view the civilian populace with a mixture of disgust (filthy idle parasites that are no good in a fight), pity (they will never achive our level of greatness, we must take care of them), and weariness (if we didn't have to keep tending to these wretches we could focus on getting our war on and wiping out those xenos and heretics in the next sector over). They are instilled with a great sense of responsibility for their civilian charges, but responsibility means power. If they see the need for a curfew, they will enforce it no matter what. They (or rather, their PDF troops) will execute children that played outside for too long. Combine the disregard for human lives of the Imperium with the rigidity and traditionalism of Japanese culture. That's what you get.

Archived for the sake of archiving:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15052506/

>>15056448
>We really should be trying to get some original fluff ideas instead of asking ourselves, "What aspect of Japan have we not shoehorned into this chapter's fluff, yet?"

B-B-BUT MY GANGURO MARINES!

>>15056502
>highly disciplined warrior caste
>Yamato subsector
>rigidity and traditionalism of Japanese culture

God fucking damnit. LESS FUCKING JAPAN IN SPACE! How many fucking times does it have to be said?

>>15056443
How about the civilian population is expected to rise up in arms/do honorable suicide if their world is about to beoverran by enemy forces? Like, the Space Marines, the IG and PDF have fallen, now the civilians must pick up the lasguns from the dead or seppuku? And this is ingrained in the civilian mind as honorable? As thus, deserters and their ilk would probably be vilified or given the BLAM as soon as possible.
Also, the higher-ups don't care if a plan would inflict massive casualties on their side, as long as it brings a bigger psychological impact/casualty rate on the enemy.
And instead of katanas and power swords, why not make them be good at miniaturizing stuff, and thus you have a thinner, more slender kind of chainsword?

>>15056502

>Elsewhere in the Imperium, government and the military is separate for the most part

Do you even know dick about the 40k fluff?

>>15056517
But thats the whole point of them.

WHY AM I NEVER AWAKE WHEN THESE THREAD BEGIN.

Nepotism runs rampant in the Chapter. If the majority of Marines are recruited from noble clans, those clans still carry weight in the Marine's life after induction. An older marine from the same clan as a younger marine will side with and support him over a brother from another clan, indeed most companies are seperated along human clan lines. As a result the Rising Sons are a factional, scheming group, constantly trying to get one up on their rivals from their previous lives in their new one.

Recruits taken from the peasant class are treated poorly as a result.

>>15056517

You could make Spartan Marines (I believe the Minotaurs are the canon Spartan Marines from the rare snippets of fluff that exist about them), and their view on the civilian population would be exactly the same. In fact, wherever you have a warrior caste, this will happen. Nothing particularly Japanese about it.

Now, the fact that the subsector is named Yamato I don't actually like, I'd prefer to rename it to something that isn't a direct transfer of the source material. However, I don't want to go against the names of things established in the previous threads. I don't want to start everything over. One could argue that a Yamato subsector is fine in a galaxy that has a Gothic sector. If one culture works, why not another?

>>15056519

>the higher-ups don't care if a plan would inflict massive casualties on their side

Congratulations, you have managed to figure out what every other world in the 40k universe already does. Not give a shit about the population.

Seriously guys, this thread and idea needs less shoehorning of japan and more making it 40k.

>>15056536
HAVE NOT YET SEEN ANY ARTWORK OF SUMO-DREAD.

>>15056526

Quick, what's the difference between the Administratum and the Munitorum?

>>15056539

THAT!

NOW THAT I FUCKING LIKE!

>>15056547

The Administratum is made of the clerks and staff that see to the running of the Imperium. The Munitorium is a branch of the Administratum.

>>15056546
SUCH SHAMEFUR DISPRAY. ALSO
DATE MASAMUNE MARINE FUCKING WHERE. SERIOUSLY PUT YOUR GUNS ON.

>>15056556
The logistics branch to be more specific.

>>15056539
Alternatively, these clan lines might be based entirely on gene-seed, so that there is a sense of pre-existing sin or honor associated with your predecessor. You are expected to live up [or down] to the marine who came before you, regardless of your origin as a man.

>>15056570

That could work. Geneseed is only passed along inside of the same clan, which would force more flaws in the genetic material to come to the fore. Specifically, clans inside of the Rising Sons could each have their own genetic flaws like no Belchers gland or an inability to susan.

>>15056547

Well, I derped there. I meant the difference between the Administratum and the Imperial Guard.

I'm trying to get at the fact that while the military and government branches of the Adeptus Terra are integrated, it's rare that a planet is governed by the military directly. Usually you have a civilian government,

>>15056582

Those Marines who have dishonored the clan have their geneseed removed from the clan banks and given over to the few peasant/commoners who get inducted, making them a caste of their own, the clanless.

>>15056589

Cadia.

>>15056592

Rare. Not never. Also, Cadia is a special case being the gate to the Eye of Terror.

>>15056592
Cadia is the exception rather than the rule.

>>15056598

Krieg.

>>15056598

Other than the two previously mentioned planets...

Mordia.
Elysia.
Tallarn (Debatable possibly, however the government and military are so intertwined it's nearly impossible to see where one begins and the other ends.)
Atilla. (Ditto with Atilla.)

>>15056561
This is what I mean. Any marine that looks that I AM A SAMURAI should be rather high in the hierarchy. I think we should tone it down more than a little.

The Imperial Guard is ultimately run by the Departmento Munitorum, who have three seats on the council of the High Lords of Terra. It provides all the supplies, equipment, training, and also some of the representatives sent to worlds with an Imperial Guard presence. While they do not directly control the prosecution of Imperial military strategy, they have devolved power to different sections of the Imperium, at the planetary level, subsector level and sector level.

>>15056625

Krieg doesn't have a civilian government? Source on that.

Also, how about we list known planets in the Imperium that _have_ civilian governments instead?

Armageddon
Necromunda
Vostroya
Valhalla
Mordia
Tallarn
Rynn's World
Scintilla

Need I go on?

>>15056653

So, you list the worlds that have civilian governments as opposed to the military and integrated governments.

Seems like a short list out of billions of planets, but if only that few have civilian governments than I agree with your point that there are more military governments than civilian.

>>15056667

Those are just the ones I pulled off Lexicanum. Are you really that dense?

>>15056667

While you have listed 2 planets with military governments. Out of several billon worlds, that's not a lot either.

>>15056653
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rynn%27s_World Homeworld of the Crimson Fists. Not civilian run.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Armageddon It's basically a wartorn hell hole. No real government other than military. Not civilian run.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vostroya Run mostly by the Mechanicum. Supplies every first born son to the military. Not civilian run.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Krieg Entire planet devoted to war, no real civilians, just genetic breeding stock for the Death Korps. Not civilian run.

Need *I* go on?

>>15056676

Obviously the rest of the planets aren't run by any government at all and are meritocracies.

>>15056690

Ignorant of fluff confirmed.


>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rynn%27s_World Homeworld of the Crimson Fists. Not civilian run.

Rynn's world is not run by the Crimson Fists, but by a civilian governor. It's right there in the article.

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Armageddon It's basically a wartorn hell hole. No real government other than military. Not civilian run.

Armageddon is one of the largest hive worlds in the Imperium. Most of the hives are still intact after all the wars. It has a functional civilian government and has always had one.

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vostroya Run mostly by the Mechanicum. Supplies every first born son to the military. Not civilian run.

The AdMech is a civilian organization (though it has its own militia forces). Also, Vostroya, while a forge world, is not technically _run_ by the AdMech, but has a civilian government.

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Krieg Entire planet devoted to war, no real civilians, just genetic breeding stock for the Death Korps. Not civilian run.

Untrue. The Death Korps are replenished by cloning as well as the regular-born population of Krieg's hives. Also, it is run by a civilian governor, propped up by the military junta established by the loyalist forces.

>>15056690
Most Space Marine Chapters don't run their homeworlds, they just provide special status in regards to the Imperial Tithe and personal protection. Armageddon does have a civilian government, or at least used to until the Third war broke out. Vostroya might have a lot of veterans, but that doesn't make it military governed, just as the American governments after World War Two weren't military dictatorships despite the majority being military veterans.

The majority of Worlds are run by Planetary Governors, some are Guard veterans, others aren't. They however aren't overall military commanders of their worlds, with only some exceptions.

>>15056470
perhaps they cannot harvest the second Progenoid gland and can only utilize the original glands.
That would mean the chapter would die out pretty damn fast with every unrecoverable progenoid permanently reducing their numbers.

/thread

Sure is Rising Sons in here.

The Rising Sons make unpredictable allies. Their disdain for humans makes it difficult to get their cooperation in joint-military campaigns, and they are as likely to leave if they find the war unsatisfactory as they are to stay and fight. The only reason they are largely tolerated is because of their excellent relationships with most of the First Founding Chapters, and the deference they show to them in military matters.

A Rising Son will defer to a first founding marine in most matters, and are quick to ingratiate themselves in their good graces through gifts and pleasantries. They count social 'victories' as highly as military ones, and considered their playing host to Logan Grimnar on his way to take command of the Cadian defenses in the 13th Black Crusade as a great honour, lauding him with poems, gifts and the attention of the most beautiful geisha women brought from all over the surrounding system.

After a tactical squad rescued an isolated and under heavy fire Brother Corbulo of the Blood Angels and his sanguinary guard, it was deemed approriate to grant the sergeant terminator honours for bringing the bonds between the Angels and the Sons even closer.

bump.

>>15056887
Wait your the same guy who tried this on BnC and got shot down for just being space samurai and overloading it with things from the likes of wiki nippon.

Oh and Name dropping is a great way of making shit fluff

Rising Sons techmarines dislike working with Servitors, considering them too clunky and crude, and are instead granted apprentices from amongst the scout companies. These apprentices they teach the ways of the Machine God, grooming them until they are ready to be sent to Mars to recieve more formal training.

An apprentice splits his time learning the ways of the forge and the ways of a combat brother, often serving as a ready replacement if a techmarine is absent from the battlefield, able to perform minor repairs on broken equipment.

>>15057003
I've never been on BoC. Sorry to disappoint you.

>>15057003
Its funny that you think that is overly Japanese, since I was thinking of Used Car Salesmen and Corporate social climbers while I was thinking it up, and trying to find a believable reason why they would be tolerated for being anti-human.

One final bump and I'm out of here.

Well... What needs doing? Is everything getting rewritten or nothing or what? We also have to get over the fact that these guys are fucking Samurai means. More Space Marine then Samurai they maybe, but they're still Samurai. Yes, the fluff shouldn't be composed entirely of paragraphs ripped from the Sengoku Jidai page on wikipedia, but you can't just jump on any new bit of fluff for being Japanese. Let's fucking face it, you could say any bit of fucking fluff is Japanesy.

>>15057217
Yeah, that's been my problem. I've been trying to avoid the Japanese stuff, but everything I've written for it has been called weeaboo.

Just softening the heavy handedness and breathing depth into the chapter would be good. Short stories, sketches, stuff like that.

What are their chaplains like? Techmarines (I wrote that little piece up thread)? What is their attitude towards psykers and librarians?

Are they Inquisition friendly? (I'd say yes)

They're brilliant warriors, but suck ups and promote what I think is a fairly unique Marine Supremist attitude, that deliberatly places themselves fairly low on the list of Important Chapters.

This bullshit chapter is still alive?

Fucking weaboos. Chainswords arent good enough for you candy asses?

>>15057283

Well, it isn't exactly uncommon for Supremist attitudes to exist among chapters. A few that come to mind include the Marines Malevolent and Astral Claws (lol Badab).

I think the idea of the Rising Sons being Marine Supremists sounds like a pretty good idea though. Hell, why not have them be a downright xenophobic chapter? WE WILL NOT SERVE ALONGSIDE THOSE UNCLEAN ABHUMANS and so on?

We should also probably work out their relationship with their parent chapter.

>>15057397

>>15057413

Fuck off weaboo.

Why don't you go write up a Mongolian chaos chapter to go with this shitfest.

>>15057439

They're a White Scars successor. Their descended from Mongolians.

Also,

>Fuck off weaboo

Someone's getting awfuly butthurt about weaboos on 4chan of all fucking places. Nevermind the fact that the chapter is trying to distance itself from fucking weaboo. What are you, a fucking Koreaboo?

This chapter would make good antagonists in a story, or problem elements in the lore of a big war effort in Imperial Armour or something.

That's not a criticism either. I like what you guys have done with it.

GUIZE JAPAN IS SO WEEABOO WHY DO YOU WEEABOOS LIKE JAPAN SERIOUSLY FUCKING WEEABOOS

BRB MASTURBATING TO EUROPE

>>15057405
Supreme reverence and deference. They have a more polished, refined look compared to the White Scars, and have a greater appreciation for 'culture', but they most certainly see themselves as the sons of a mighty warrior rather than a savage barbarian. They don't fight like White Scars however and keep fairly close to the codex astartes, with only some minor variations.

The White Scarsd however considered the Rising Sons ineffective fops more concerned with politics and tea then with actual fighting. They believe they have an inflated sense of their own abilities and importance.

>>15057474

I hate mongolians too, I was actually remembering that south park skit with the mongolians breaking down the shitty wall.


With all due seriousness this chapter is not Codex worthy.

Whole chapter should die in a fire. Weeabo as hell blah blah. At least make their damn livery weeabo too. Black and Blue is far to hard core for a chaper that's last right of passage is to be raped by squid

>>15057493

Eh, it passes the time.

>>15057548

Pass the time with something worthwile or contribute somewhere else. Let this chapter die.

Does that mean they are notably eastern in philosophy? Eastern combat doctrines are a bit different than what Americans are used to because they are from the age of the sword rather than the age of the gun. Main idea is that you are the weapon, the sword/gun/whatever is merely another part of you that expresses your intentions to do harm.

Eastern culture used to be so awesome. I feel bad that we are effectively eroding it.

>>15057506

>>right of passage.

It's rite.

>>15057568
They're Codex Astartes.

>>15057568

Wasn't Japans interpretation of fighting against Westernism by gangraping young girls and then bayoneting them in the vaginas? And then implying this was benefical for Asia by herping about the GREATER EAST ASIAN CO-PROSPERITY SPHERE?

Its funny the cries of weeaboo, since alot of the new stuff being added is pretty negative towards the chapter. That of scheming politicians obsessed with status.

>>15057620

So now, they are arrogant aristrocratic fucknuts with powerkatanas?

How much lower can you get?

>>15057591

Actually, I never got why GW never played up the Tau as being THE GREATER EAST GALACTIC CO-PROSPERITY SPHERE or something. There's certainly hints towards it (brainwashing, sterialising and so on). It'd certainly make the Tau fit in more with the setting. Bonus points if you give them crazy war aims, like Japan had in WWII (such as their wish to own Cuba, among a number of other countries)

You just can't win with some people.

>>15057636

Make them ganguro marines?

How many Marines in this chapter, if it's over a thousand tsk tsk tsk

>>15057671

How about, Excommunicate Traitoris, or Expunged / Exterminated.

Hows that sound?

>>15057677
Its a Codex Astartes chapter.

>>15057677

Standard thousand. Bit of a weird thing to jump on though, since the other /tg/ chapters (Abyssal Jaws and Emperor's Nightmare come to mind) have over 1,000 (3,000 in the AJ's case)

>>15057695

Emperor's Nightmare have an excuse because a significant portion is always asleep, so if they didn't have a little extra they'd be consistently BELOW the 1,000 threshold. Abyssal Jaws, I dunno.

>>15057797

Abyssal Jaws always have a huge part of their force garrisoning their home world incase the Old One awakes.

Can we get some more drawfaggotry in here? Perhaps a dreadnought sketch, or colored sketch of an average joe Rising Ron (less samurai-looking) next to a high ranking officer Rising Son (samurai flair out the wazoo)? Or maybe a chaplain that actually looks like a chaplain?

bump

Hey, we got a decent rival in the form of these chaps:
>>15058985

(also they want to kill the chapter welp those dastardly necrons)

bump

>>15062857
I want some some fluff on this and it posted on the RS wiki page. PRONTO! What are you waiting for, Chinese New Year?

>>15063623

Mifune Toshiro walked slowly towards the podium, luminous lights beaming down upon him from above. As he approached the stand, he turned his eyes towards the assembled mass of space marines before him. They wore armour of finest Prussian blue and Payne's grey, with brilliant golden highlights. Upon their pauldrons they wore the emblem of their noble brotherhood, a rising sun of crimson red, a skull upon its face. Toshiro knew that, including himself, there stood a thousand battle-brothers in the vast auditorium; a thousand angels of death and destruction. Finally, he reached the podium. Slowly, he rubbed his gauntlet-covered hands upon its surface and, for just a few seconds, he thought of his predecessors,; his fellow chapter masters from millennia long past.
He began:

“Brothers... Sons of the Great Khan, proud harbingers of the Emperor's wrath and dear brothers in arms; soon we face perhaps the greatest thread our prestigious chapter has faced since its founding eight millennia ago.

“On that distant day eight millennia ago, our illustrious parent-chapter, the White Scars, gave birth to our chapter. While our brother-chapter from that same founding was lead astray by the heretical whims of the Tyrant, we proudly fought and died following the ways of our Great Khan.

“A billion xenos have fallen to our blades, bolters and bikes; a billion more shall soon follow!”

(continued)

>>15064512

Toshiro wiped the spit from his mouth, pausing for a few seconds to catch his breath. There had been no contact from Brother-Captain Katsuo's squadron since they went to investigate the disappearance of Baron Paral Von Hoskarl II, a Rogue Trader who had apparently discovered treasures on some Throne-forsaken rock. Brother-Captain Katsuo's last message was from just before he and his men entered the tomb. Soon after, reports of Necron activity began to pour in, as more and more planets were raided by the ancient malevolence, seemingly heading closer towards the Yamato subsector. It didn't take long for Toshiro to realise that the Necron were coming for them. Why? He could not say; perhaps they blamed Katsuo and his men for waking them from their ancient slumber. However, it mattered not; Toshiro would avenge the loss of his brothers.

“As I am sure you are all aware, the vile filth known as the “Necron” have began raiding planets in the nearby Shang subsector. These attacks were without provocation, as expected from xeno dirt, and left few survivors.

“We have studied the plantery systems which were raided and discovered that they form a path... A path heading straight for our home sector. We cannot allow this filth to pollute our beloved Imperium; WE MUST DESTROY THE NECRONS!”

>>15064530

Toshiro raised his fist as he yelled out, watching as the marines before them raised their own fists in defiance; the Necrons would curse the day they awakened from their disgusting pit.

“Tomorrow, Tokugawa, Date, Chosokabe, Shimazu, Uesugi and Takeda companies shall set off for their world and BURN IT TO THE GROUND!” Once more, Toshiro wiped the saliva from his mouth.

“Meanwhile, Oda, Hojo, Tachibana and Mori shall divide themselves among the planets of the Yamato subsector in the unlikely case that five companies cannot break the Necron.

“My Brothers, soon we shall avenge the deaths of those Imperial citizens who were consumed by the unholy blight and, more importantly, avenge the deaths of our brothers who have already fallen to the Scourge! FOR YAMATO! FOR THE GREAT KHAN! FOR THE EMPEROR!”

As Toshiro turned his back from the podium, leaving his brothers crying out for the destruction of the Necron, he couldn't help but feel that something would go wrong on that distant Tomb World; that he had invited doom upon both him and his chapter. He only hoped that he and his brother marines would wipe out the ancient evil once and for all.
“For the Emperor...”

Oh, you should listen to this while reading it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN1iSb4Yd3g

Or, this if you want to hear the best song ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzpjBdxz5io

>>15055862And the Mongols did eventually use scimitars in their history. Their empire did span across Central Asia, Persia and the Middle East, after all.

that's a weird way to word it. Mongols used saber type weapons, and it was Asians that brought curved single edged blades to the middle east. I dont know if it was the mongols that did it first or not, but there is a longer history of 'scimitars' in East Asia than there is in Middle East
>>15053041
This kind of thing gets annoying. When making Space Knights nobody will bother with if their armor is French or German or Italian, but if it's Space Asians then suddenly there's heated arguments about WW2 or something.

>>15053041Except the first time I saw that was a request thread, and it was for a Buddhist chapter. The requester later went on to Bolter and Chainsword to work on an Eastern chapter as counts-as Grey Knights. Many ideas of which clashing over the nationality. I believe they left off on Chinese?


especially when it comes to Buddhist Art, China and Japan share the same imagery.

Japanese deities and demons wear Chinese clothing/armor to show their ancient stature, usually in the Tang dynasty style.

>>15064745
>>15064784
That discussion's over. We really don't need to resurrect the shitstorm from the beginning of the thread.

Plus we have Necrons to worry about.

we need Prussian space mariens

OP of Terracotta Spider Necrons here.

Weeaboo marines are small time.
Stay offa our planets ya hear!?

Enhanced eyes surveyed the land before him. The air was stale and dry, the earth barren and sandy. The sun was dim; burning halfheartedly to cast what seemed like an eclipsed light over land. The marine took a moment to appreciate the feeling of being the only living thing on an entire planet. In the distance, he could make out the skyline of the ruins. He was close. The marine stomped his armored foot against the accelerator of his jetbike.
A voice murmured in his ear. “Status report.”
The marine tapped his vox bead, “I am almost there. Has the scan picked anything up?”
“Actually, it has.” His battle brother replied. “Five readings of life within the compound. There is too much interference to determine what kind, I’m afraid.”
A sneer escaped him. “I thought this was a dead world.”
“Perhaps animal life still persists.”
“Perhaps someone was fool enough to come here.”
“Do you think we’ve been tracked?”
“Has the radar picked up any drop ships?”
“Only remnants of minor warp activity. We assumed a recent warp storm or...” There was a pause on the other side of the channel followed by a curse. “I apologize for my poor judgment. If their ship is cloaked we will find it.”

>>15065686
“See that you do. I shall deal with the five down here.” He was within the ruins, now. Obsidian pillars black as pitch flew past him. His jetbike eventually slowed to a halt before a building as massive as it was ornate. Sleek and black, it featured golden inlays of mysterious runes of a language long forgotten and towering statues of an alien race that looked nearly human. If what he was looking for was anywhere on this desolate planet, it was here.
Stepping inside, he felt the temperature drop to frigid temperatures. He looked down the black abyss of the unlit corridor before him and sighed as he reached for his helmet. Through the lens, a green haze cut through the dark. It was deathly quiet, only the sound of his footsteps sharply echoing off the walls. And something else. Other footsteps not far behind him. The five other had caught up with him.
He spun around with frightening speed and raised his plasma pistol. He sent a three shot burst soaring down the hall. This was quickly followed by a cry of, “Brother Mitsutora is down! Target is hostile! Engage! Shoot to kill!”

>>15065693
The marine grinned and began his sprint down the hallway as bolt rounds zipped past him and lodged into the tight walls of the corridor exploding fist-sized divots into architecture untouched by life for millennia. He fired over his shoulder. He could see the opening to a room glowing with green light at the end of the hall. A bolt round struck him in the pauldron and blew out a chunk of ceramite. The force caused him to spin around. As he was forced to turn and face his assailants, his pushed off with his heels and sent himself sliding away from them, his pistol spitting plasma all the way. He could see one of his shots strike an attack in his midsection, downing him.
His momentum died shortly after sliding out from the hall and into the room. The plasma pistol was hot in his hand. He tossed the weapon aside, preferring not to have it explode on him in the midst of battle and drew his power sword. With the press of a rune the sleek, slightly curved blade hummed to life.

>>15065699
“Face me if you dare!” He roared. The first came charging from the darkness of the corridor, chain sword whirring. He was screaming a battlecry, but did not get to finish it. With the flick of his wrist, the fanatic was stumbling past him gurgling in his own blood. The marine grimaced. A new recruit, most likely. What a pitiful standard these warriors had. Before his body hit the ground the final two emerged. They had holstered their bolters, one drawing a combat knife, the other with a chainsword. “Do you accept my challenge?” He said with intensity. “One on one combat.”
The knife-wielding enemy glanced at who looked to be his superior, who in turn nodded. “We accept. I shall face you first.”
“Very well.” He grinned and threw his sword at him. The enemy died with a look of surprise on his face that never left him. His subordinate cried, “Brother-Captain Katsuo!” And reached for his bolter. Before he could even get his finger to the trigger, the marine had a melta pistol pointed at him.

>>15065709
A moment later, he turned from the puddle of flesh and metal, chuckling “Too easy…” Before him was a monolith with staircase leading up to his prize. An ornate gold-and-obsidian orb. He sauntered up the steps and wrenched the orb from its stand. An unearthly low hum quaked the building. He winced. If he were human, he would be writhing about on the floor, shrieking and clutching his head. He waited until the hum subsided before tapping his vox bead, “This is Akechi Mitsuhide. I have the orb, but I’m afraid I have woken a sleeping giant. Have you found their ship?”
“Yes, my lord. It has been dealt with. I trust you made short work of the loyalists.”
“I have. Returning to the drop zone.”
END

>>15065686
>>15065693
>>15065699
>>15065714

So yeah, there's my hand at writefaggotry.

bumpin this shit

>>15065714
AKECHIIIIIIIIIII!

One final bump before I let this die.

>>15065714

AKECHIIIIIIIIIII!

ITT: Summerfags, ass-pained closet weaboos, and buttfrustrated wannabe-trolls who moonlight as sagefags come and talk shit about surprisingly well-done Original Content instead of getting off their rear ends and actually contributing to the board.

There is a name for the cancer infesting /tg/, gentlemen. I can't decide between Laziness or Asperger's Syndrome.

>>15065825
I do hope someone can take the time to put that on the 1d4chan page...

>>15052952
That image is rage inducing.

>>15068642

Funnily enough, the Mantis Warriors are from the same Founding as the Rising Sons. Same geneseed as well (they're a successor of the Maruders, a White Scar successor).

>>15068565
I'm gonna vote for Laziness.

Carry on, merry gentlemen.

>>15068595

Added both stories to the wiki article.

Anyhoo, some things we should do:

1. According to 1d4chan, we don't have anything marked down foir Restrictions. Do we have free access to all the standard hardware of a Spess Mahreen chapter? One option, as a White Scars successor, would be for us to not use dreadnoughts (they scare WS's shitless)

2. We also lack a Founding Father. According to the original thread, the founding father wiped out an entire species of xeno, but that's all it says. We have nothing marked down for it on the 1d4chan page.

3. Do we really have to have fucking banzai as their battle cry? Seriously? That's pretty much the icing that makes the cake weeaboo.

>>15070372
>1. According to 1d4chan, we don't have anything marked down foir Restrictions. Do we have free access to all the standard hardware of a Spess Mahreen chapter? One option, as a White Scars successor, would be for us to not use dreadnoughts (they scare WS's shitless)

I think we're already set on sticking with dreadnoughts, having a few customized to be CC chargers (SUMO!). Also, Oda Nobunaga is encased in a dreadnought.

>2. We also lack a Founding Father. According to the original thread, the founding father wiped out an entire species of xeno, but that's all it says. We have nothing marked down for it on the 1d4chan page.

Since we already have Toshiro Mifune as the Chapter Master... Kurosawa Akira? Or is that too much?

>3. Do we really have to have fucking banzai as their battle cry? Seriously? That's pretty much the icing that makes the cake weeaboo.

Would HONOR AND VENGEANCE suit you better?

>>15065714
AKECHIIIIIIIIIII!

Okay, we need drawfaggotry of Akechi. Desecrated Rising Sons armor and some badass mutations. Perhaps two of his bottom teeth curl out of the corners of his mouth ala Oni. Or is that too heavy on the NIPPON! scale that we're trying to tone down?

>>15070744

>I think we're already set on sticking with dreadnoughts, having a few customized to be CC chargers (SUMO!). Also, Oda Nobunaga is encased in a dreadnought.

Shiiiiit, forgot about that. Okay, I have no idea about the restrictions. Artillary, maybe? I dunno.

>Since we already have Toshiro Mifune as the Chapter Master... Kurosawa Akira? Or is that too much?

Oh christ. Ermm, let's see what other people think. Personally, I'm for it though.

>Would HONOR AND VENGEANCE suit you better?

No. VENGEANCE AND HONOUR would suit me though~

>>15071039
Do we even need restrictions? Last I checked, this was supposed to be a pretty standard Codex chapter.

>>15071057

It is? The wiki page said they had Unique Organization and were Over Strength. Ah well, I suppose we don't have to have restrictions.

>>15071078
Some of that might have been left over from when we were bickering about how to organize them.
I think after having our recent epiphany that we need to tone down the Japan and amp up the Space Marine, it's best to make it a standard codex chapter with 10 companies of 100ish marines. Unless someone disagrees.

>>15071144

Yeah, I agree.

Okay wait no... guys... I have it. What if... the Traitorous Seven... okay?... what if... they team up with the homebrew chaos.

>>15072398

Which homebrew chaos? Personally, I don't think any of the ones that have been made/mentioned/currently in the process of being made thus far really fit. The Ivory Huntsmen would probably just snort at them. Then drink a fine wine and regail themselves with stories about how they hunted down the legendary Elephant of Secrets.

>>15072567
What about the Slaaneshi renegades? Did they get a name yet?

>>15072740

Not yet, but it looks like their op is back to finish the chapter off.

>>15072567
They could entice them. Apparently they have a super important Necron orb, now.
Perhaps Akechi is close to ascending to daemonhood. A daemon prince would be a powerful ally to have.

bump

>>15072567
Oh, hey, I like that name. Beats my old "The Whateley Society" idea. I guess I should write up some stuff on them, huh.