“This is... I just don’t even know, Captain.” Burr sits heavily in the sensor officer’s chair. The pudgy man wipes the sheen of sweat from his brow with a shaking hand, “I just, I mean, my specialities are cybernetics and trauma. The ship isn’t equipped for this, Captain. I’m not sure ANY ship is. The base designed to prevent it wasn’t even equipped for it.”

“Surely you have some ideas?”

“I just don’t know. Kara and I will look at the information that’s been dug up, I’ll try to think of something. But from what I’ve been able to tell from what the Lieutenant found this was some kind of alien microbe they discovered that was naturally extremely hardy and nearly universally deadly... before they started trying to make it into a weapon.”

“I see. Anything else to report?” you ask, addressing the ground team now.

“I took the liberty of using the keycard on the vaults below, sir.” Ivanova responds, “It appears he only had access to one. I used a monitor to view the inside through cameras and found more improvised cryopods and a large number of what appeared to be biowar research samples they tossed aside in haste to climb in. I thought it best to refrain from actually unsealing the vault upon seeing that.”

“What should we do, sir? Course of action?” Rinn concludes, asking the question everyrone is no doubt thinking.

>Well?

==Command Staff==
Lieutenant Kateryna Ivanova - Executive Officer
>Second Lieutenant Dray Parson - Intelligence Officer (Cryo)
Second Lieutenant Robert Tynes - Steward
Chun-Fan Dai - Chief Engineer
Third Lieutenant Mardigan “Guns” Rinn - Weapons Officer
Dr. Christof Burr - Physician

==Junior Officers==
Ensign Fie - Communictions Officer
Ensign DuBois - Staff officer
Ensign Tremko - Staff officer
Ensign Rao - Staff officer

==Persons of Note==
>Dr. Eliphim Ketro -- Civilian Scientist (Cryo)

Previous Threads:

1: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15474877/
2: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15527576/
3: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15547424/
4: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15558914/
5: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15581324/
6: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15603188/
7: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15626860/
8: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15671288/
9: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15681393/
10: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15702140/
11: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15725852/
12: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15749179/
13: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15760403/
13-2: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15765549/
14: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15783485/
15: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15807704/
16: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15856771/
17: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15880596/
18: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15904452/
19: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15916825/

>Also, when archiving make sure to include the thread number in the title and a "Void Quest" tag.

I have honestly no Idea.

Obviously the virus won't get worse if we open the vault, so just open it. If we're lucky, the biowarstuff lying around there is part of the Decon-kit that was being talked about in the data we collected.

We also need to keep scouring the archives, and probably send down more drones already to establish a connection down to the core-Computer.
Imho, If we are to find anything, it's within the core computer. Can we establish a connection down there using massive amounts of drones to function as relais?
(At this point, human lives are at stake, no matter how many drones we gotta use, we should try it)
So objective for now, primary: Hack the mainframe, no matter how.

>>15949908
This, I gotta agree to that, simple as it is.


Also, one smiley and one smiley only for the whole thread:
Hi Verdi :)

-r, hi Vedi

stealthquest? stealthquest.


Do as the namefag suggest, open the vault, also ship down drones in massive amounts to establish a connection to the core, then: hack it.

Is there any difference in the suits of the unaffected that could account for their resistance to the weapon?

Remember to give Erella a proper funeral at a less strenuous time. I guess a void burial is now impossible, but we could simulate one with an empty coffin.

>>15949908
Thriding this. Also make sure to send them food and such thats not latent with virii shit, before they starve to death down there. Also i can assume Ivanova's not immune either, she is simply not out of the irradiated suppression zone.

>>15949936
>Is there any difference in the suits of the unaffected that could account for their resistance to the weapon?
Don't forget: Ivanova's suit is kickass.jpg, plus she's been in the radiation the entire time. The other two ensigns who aren't affected haven't actually entered the facility.

>>15949976
Makes sense.

>>15949952
>>15949934
>>15949919
>>15949908
>>15949952
4 votes in favour and one guy who can't read, I dare say we agreed on something.

>>15950005
If it helps, I'll second this as well.

>>15950005
SSSHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! You'll wake up the trolls.

>>15950005
>>15950021
Nooooooooo! Clearly, we must crash the ship into the facility... gently. The impact will kill all the germs.

I'm all for dusting off and blasting this place. I highly doubt that they would lock the cure in a vault. It's probably just more of the microbe.

Whatever we were supposed to find here is too well protected to bother. Burn it and move on.

>>15950079
We'll have to burn all the crew and equipment that's still down there as well seeing as they've all been exposed to a virus that can survive in a radioactive vacuum for thousands of years.

>>15950079
And kill a HUGE portion for the remaining crew of our ship? Probably causing a mutiny/rebellion? No thanks.

>Bioweapons facility
>our dudes have suits that are slowly getting compromised
>virus has already mutated once
>what do?
>open the vault with dozens of other virus samples!
>then send people in!
>why?
>dunno, just because why not
>whatcouldgowrong.jpg

Question: can we tell if any of the people in the makeshift cryopods appear to have keycards with them?

>>15950099
Seriously.

It obviously goes into some kind of stasis or hibernation. Nothing can survive that long otherwise.

This whole damn place confuses me. Did we ever determine why there was liquid blood still around?

>>15950047
I'm tired of this shit, because that was a completely sound plan. How large the ship is is mostly irrelevant as long as it moves slow enough. If the laws of physics operated the way you idiots think, each time you jumped, you'd be turned into meatpaste because the Earth is fuckhuge and you are small. But no, let's just keep going HURR DURR YOU CAN'T BUMP THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE BIG.

>>15950129
One of the other projects seems to have had something to do with extending lifespans or something (I think). It's part of what's keeping the virus alive (I think). Honestly if I'm remembering correctly then if we can find something to neutralize whatever is keeping all those liquids in liquid form then the virus should die within a few hours (maybe).

>>15950129
There's a second virus that apparently stops aging/death/decay. It's probably that.

>>15950047
>>15950021
>>15950016
>>15950005
So I'll say: 7 in favor of
> hack mainframe no matter how many drones we need
> keep searching for decon-instructions
> last resort for our guys on the ground: open vault and pray for something goid inside

And like 3 people opposed. There still is a very clear majority.

Okay, so, wait. You're seriously ordering someone in there?

Okay, whatever. Who?

>>15950141
>how large it is is irrelevant

force = mass x acceleration.

Our mass is HUGE. No matter what acceleration we apply, the impact would crush them.

And goddamn, it's just a joke now. Stop being so buttmad about it.

>>15950195
Parsons.

>>15950217
Or better yet, unfreeze Ketro and send him in there. He might actually tell us something before he dies.

Seriously: I do not advocate throwing away any more lives. Send a drone.

>>15950195
WE ARE NOT SENDING PEOPLE INTO THE VAULT!!!!! That kind of retardation is why we are here in the first motherfucking place.

>>15950195
I believe the other options are to be explored first, see the post just above yours.

If we can't find a deconset anywhere and if there's no help in the mainframe, then going in and praying for the best is probably the best thing we can try BEFORE nuking the site from orbit.

>>15950195
Wait, who said send a person in? So far the suggestion has been to open the vaults (though no one has said how to do this). Once the vaults are open the people down their can remote pilot drones into the areas that are to hot for the suits.

Alright, first off the radiation seems to inhibit the growth of the virus. Have the people who are showing suit damage back into the facility, the people who aren't stay outside. This time make sure that everyone keeps checking their suit integrity to monitor the progression of the virus (sadly that seemed to have gotten ignored last thread, leading to Erella's death, so it will probably get ignored this time too). In the mean time, we need to start looking for the cure. We have that card, we should use it. Remind everyone NOT to touch the liquids that contain a virus that we know eats through containment.

I have one other idea. For this I need a few answers:


a) can we release radiation inside our shuttles?
b) can we improvise an ad-hoc decontamination-station on a remote location on the moon? One that is on par with our own? Could we for example, strip one of our shuttlebays for the decontamination equipment?


If yes, then we could get a drone carrying the virus (rub it in with liquid to be sure) on one of the shuttles, have the virus be dormant, ship it to the remotely-operated decontamination facility we improvise on the moon, and then TRY OUT the decon procedure.

If we're lucky, it works and our deconequip is sufficient to get our guys back on board.

If we're not, then nothing happens, we lost decon equipment, but that won't matter.

>>15950195
Vedibere?

Is it possible to repressurize one of the rooms in the upper facilities to allow one of the cryopods to be opened? Also how quick would the radiation in the upper levels kill a person and can we get rid of said radiation in a localized area?

here's what we know about the virus:
corrodes OUR metal
lethal within minutes
immune to radiation
immune to vacuum
spread by: Fluid contact, other vectors?

Anything else?

>>15950279
I believe he said that the radiation in the upper levels could kill a human person within a couple of minutes, correct me if I'm wrong though

>>15950295
I believe a report by the scientists in the facility said that there was a problem with the virus in that it killed so quickly that it inhibited its ability to spread. there was plans to attempt to slow it's speed in the next phase but we don't know if they actually did that or not. It may be that the only thing keeping the virus alive is the effect of that anti aging/decay project.

Does the planet have an atmosphere?

You can't even keep acceleration and velocity separate, so you obviously don't know jack shit about impact mechanics, or for that matter, any physics beyond repeating some formula you learned in high school, so fuck right off. I'm not the one who keeps bringing the issue up.

>>15950334
It's a moon, and no.

Tell the doctor and his assistand to take a look at the other project they were doing in the base as well, and to see if the interaction of the two might be responsible for what's happening. It might be speculation but it's gotta be better than nothing.

Vedibere, is it possible to set up a makeshift quarantine room or use a shuttle to that effect? The message we got when we were first checking the moon out, before we decided to go in said that the cryopods of the research team were on the lowest level, which seems to indicates that they expected at least some of the team to be uninfected. If we could thaw some of them out it could be very helpful, but we really can't risk doing so on the ship, so is there any way to set up a temp quarantine room on the surface?

>>15950279
>>15950334
>>15950414
>>15950414

YOU

stop derailing by asking questions that have been answered multiple times in the last 2 threads! go read the archives.

However, I have a bad feeling you knew that and are simply trolling.

>>15950275
>>15950428
We have more or less the right idea, but before we try our luck with one of the pods, we should probably try to decontaminate one of our drones.

>>15950452
>>15950428
Wait, have we even tried to put this virus under a microscope yet to see what it looks like? Can we even detect it, or can we only detect it's effects?

>>15950507
That's a good idea. Let's get some scientific equipment and have our people look at it.

>>15950507
once we tried the deconprocedure we turn off radiation and monitor for the degenerating effects on our metal.

Thus, we can simply wait and see. I think our only expert moonside has died on us.

stealthquest indeed, eh?

I assume Vedibere is writing already: I look forward to reading whatever will happen next.

so it (microbe) has propably mutated with preservation gene. Cool. Now we have to find un-mutated sample and inject it with retrovirus modified to extract said gene. There. Done. Needed sample probably in sealed vaults.

>>15950534
>>15950543
There's plenty of equipment designed for this all over this base. We need info on the current structure of these two pathogens, there's plenty of available samples and equipment that can analyze those samples. Let's see if the equipment is still usable despite the radiation and then ask our doc what to do to get him the info on the pathogens he probably needs.

>>15950626
there are samples in the cryo pods that Ivanova told us about at the start of this session. They may be uncontaminated.

“For now I want you all searching for the decontaminant I’m going to be shipping down more drones to act as relays and try to hack the core.“ you reply.

“Yes, sir.” Rinn replies. He looks to Ivanova who signals him to go on ahead before gathering the Ensigns and heading to the lab floor.

After they are on the elevator up Ivanova clears her throat. “Ged?”

“Yes?”

“I am not sure it’s such a good idea to tap into the core.”

“I see. Is there any specific reason?”

She shakes her head, “No, it is just, well, I am sure you already are under the impression that Intel never took security lightly. There is no way to tell what steps were taken to prevent unauthorized access. Even in the event of a physical compromise of the base.”

“Such as? What do you think could be possible?”

“Well, in such a secretive place with such dangerous I do not think it out of the realm of possibility that there is a ‘final protocol’ on the reactor. I do not know the extent of your capabilities, and hacking is more skill and art than raw power when EIs are involved anyway. Just... be careful.”

“Absolutely.”

###################

Are we dealing with a VIRUS or a SINGLE CELLED ORGANISM?

if it is a mircro organism, our chemist should be able to help us find something to either react with its cell membrane (yay chemistry!) or something that will simply bind with the membrane and hopefully disable the cell.

If we can find the actual data on the damned thing, that is.

Eight hours pass, during which time you ship down a few hundred drones with some ‘specialty’ gear of your own devising. The search of the non-sealed portions of the labs concludes fruitlessly, at least for the ground team. Reams of data pass back to the two feverishly working doctors in medbay, though, and Burr assures you that while he doesn’t have a solution he’s at least up to speed on some of the particulars. The ground team is beginning to fray, however. Rinn and Ivanova remain calm and collected, but the relatively inexperienced Ensigns have become noticeably frustrated with the lack of progress and slightly snippy. The threat of imminent descending death can do that, you suppose.

There are bright spots, however. The entire team, both topside and in the labs, continue to show no new decay on the suits. Their onboard food, water, and power supplies will last another six days at the current rate, so there is that. And best of all....

The drone plan worked. You weren’t sure at first and when you started using field repair weld-spikes to bolt drones to the sides of the elevator shafts it seemed insane, but it worked. You now have a continuous and functioning link all the way to the computer core itself. And the lower level too, of course.

>>15950626
>>15950655
Before we start fiddleing with possibly uncontaminated samples we really should know what the mutated version currently looks like. I'll just redirect attention to >>15950636

>>15950719
err...
>if it is a mircro organism
should read as:
> if it is a single celled organism

my bad.

>>15950719
>>15950743
The scientists have always referred to it as a microbe.

>>15950727
thats the
>Wat do?

If so, I say we....

> wait for further info regarding solutions from Burr and his guys. We now have a deadline of 6 days, we can take SOME time.
> if there is no real solution, and Ivanovas warning is justified as we assume, then opening up the one vault, or probably opening all of them forcefully, is our second to last resort.
> once time is running up and we did not find another solution, we hack the core. At that point, all of our groundteam are dead meat if we can't make it work, so it's a gamble we can take at that point.

people agreeing?

Oh fuck we're hacking? I hate the hacking sessions. All that existential crap hurts my head.

Can't we just do something like >>15950428 suggested and thaw one of the lead researchers and get his passcode for the computer?

>>15950799
not using smileys is hard for me...

Anyhow, I agree.

>>15950827
wait, Vedi, have you read Bishops proposal of trying our own decontamination on a drone on a remote location on the planet?

If such a test is feaseable in the time we have, I say we try it as well.

>>15950856
>>15950856
so it's 3 guys in favour of trying decon right now.

>>15950856
This is possible.

It will also require you to completely rip apart one of your onboard decon suites.

>>15950916
not a pressing matter, but how many of those do we have?

>>15950935
see below, we have several as I understood last thread.


>>15950916
We have one in each shuttle bay and the cargo bays is what you said, right? So ripping apart one decon suite for a chance (even if it's a snowballs chance in hell to survive) of finding a way to get our guys out there: We do it.

>>15950935
Twelve, but only eight are completely functional.

To the guys suggesting that we keep looking for decontaminate materials in the facility:

The people of the facility probably tried that themselves a few times before either killing themselves or locking themselves away in cryosleep.

Assuming that, we could assume that the decon materials they had possession of were ineffectual against the microbe.

>>15951012
this needs not to be true. If they had nowhere to go, no un-infected place to go, then any deconset in the world couldn't've done them any good, as they would become infected again almost immediately.

>>15951012
Actually all evidence seems to indicate that they were caught with their pants down and the only way of neutralizing these microbes was pretty much just a prototype that they couldn't get to given the speed of the spread.

>>15950954
I have to say that I'd much rather have that experimental neutralizer or the data on it in hand before we go ripping apart one of our cargo/shuttle bays.

>>15951012
>>15951066

or, decontamination on an infected subject would be deadly to the person you were trying to save... or death would come so fast you didn't have the time to decontaminate them once infected

>>15950957
Forget that then.

Boy, for all this trouble, we'd better discover WONDERCURE: THE PANACEA or something.

Of course, considering this place researched lethal killer viruses, my bet is that we'll discover... lethal killer viruses.

I'm not sure I want to unleash this particular strain on anything, even an enemy world. It might just decide to travel through space to fuck with us.

Still waiting...

You can't have thought that dismantling an onboard decom suite, reconstructing it in a shuttle that was never intended for any such thing, shipping a bunch of cryopods across the horizon of a moon, then finally doing the procedure would be quick, did you?

It will take a day to a day and a half.

You know, given the ability of project SCION to apparently keep the cells in what should be a dead body alive despite the radiation. And given the radiations effect of neutralizing the ability of the NAMTER microbes to eat through containment seals. I have to wonder, if we pressurized a room with breathable air and unfroze one of the people in the crypods who wasn't already trying to rip their eyes out, would the effects of project SCION render that person immune to the effects of the radiation in the room while the radiation halted the effects of NAMTAR on their body?

>>15951204

good thing we kept the engineer that isn't safety first, huh?

so have we searched every non-locked office/lab on the base? besides the "samples strewn about carelessly in a rush to get into cryo" one, of course.

>>15951259
You've searched the lab, searched the bottom level, searched the living quarters, browsed Oversight, and Ivanova has done a cursory check on the researcher's offices.

>>15951279
Fuck it, you've got my vote too.
We can spare one suite if it cones down to it.

Though I'd really prefer to hold off until our search for a cure fails.

>>15951242
Well we could test that easily enough. We've there are people in those pods we have access to who were strapped down and would probably die even if we had a cure simply due to how far along the disease has progressed. We could try sealing and pressurizing someplace and then thawing one of them to see if it works. If it does turn out to be a viable option then then they could tell us things like access codes and such, as well as helping out with finding a cure.

>>15951279
....

Okay, your call. Timeskipping two days. I had thought you might want to have the ground team doing something during that time, but I guess not.

###############

Dai finally finishes converting the shuttles, calling them "adequate, but inefficient" and you set off. You've already transported all of the cryopods to the landing site so the loading is swift, and the launch to space even quicker.

The defrosting, however... goes less well. Within a minute of each pod being opened you begin to see the telltale bleeding. Even worse, before the post-thaw shock wears off the subjects are already clawing their eyes and shrieking, a horrific mimicry of Erella's demise two days prior. As Burr and Ivanova predicted, the decontamination -- even the flame and radiation -- seems to have little to no effect.

Moreover, just an hour after the first subject is unsealed you get a warning signal from one of the fitted seals isolating the "decontamination" section in the shuttle from the rest. Another three and a full breach has progressed. No corrosion of unisteel, metal, or glass but the complex super-durable polymers that act as flexible sealants around small areas are eaten through rapidly.

By the fifth hour after loading the pods into the shuttle there are no lifesigns remaining.

>>15951204
We agree, that's a horrible idea.

Let's isolate a sample of that infected blood/fluid, and start bombarding it with shit until we find something that kills it dead.

Do we have confirmation on virus/bacteria/amoeba?

>>15951316
then I say we got ourselves a middle ground.

So we keep searching and open the vault, and if there's still nothing, then we cannibalize the deconbay

>>15951399
FUCK.

It even eats through OUR shit.

Forget this, forget this planet. We've already lost people and now we're down a very valuable and limited resource.

Evacuate, get out, hit this place with the heavy lances until it glows.

>>15951399
Well, that's fucked.
Our shuttle is pretty fucked now too.
>>15951420
Seconding this, if we don't find SOMETHING that kills this we just lost a huge chunk of our drones, a good few tanks, more shuttles, two senior officers, and a couple of ensigns.

>>15951399
Saw that coming.

Does the results from that little test also disprove >>15951242 hypothesis then? Radiation only inhibits the microbes ability to eat through the seals, but they'll kill a living person no matter what?

Cut your losses, get the fuck out. You never should've messed with something you knew was this dangerous.

>>15951450
Before we do that we might as well

> breach the vault(s)
> hack the mainframe

we had 5 guys in favour of that, and before we hit the site from orbit, I say we explore all remaining possiblities

>>15951486
This. A thousand times this.

>>15951483
>>15951450
We do this and we lose Ivanova and RInn. That's two of our command staff, who are pretty much irreplaceable.

>>15951486
Indeed, if we're losing everything we might as well check every nook and cranny. There's got to be SOMETHING here we can use to halt this, and I know there is information we need to fight it here.
If only one of those idiots were not infected. Just ONE and maybe we could get something useful out of them.

Search everything and begin preparations to hack the mainframe. Any tricks we can use to help us along should be employed with our cyberware we should have a slight edge over last time.

>>15951539
Pretty much this. We cannot let these people die without looking over every single possibility of survival. They're too valuable.

>>15951482
Vedi I'd like an answer on this please. Did those people die before the were exposed to any radiation?

>>15951539
You got my vote on that as well.
I also want to add: We might want to get to turns with the fact that, just like in real life, this could've been a loosing scenario from the get go.

We have no redshirts to die instead of our command staff, and we shouldn't have sent such highly valuable personell as Ivanova down there.

A bitter lesson we might have to come to terms with, a tragic loss.

>>15951486
Fair enough. Get all non-contaminated personnel off the moon though. And isolate them in METAL BAWKSES until we're sure they're clean.

Actually, send down replacement suits for them to switch into, just in case. Leave the other suits down there to get scrapped.

>>15951486
I dare say, we have a broad majority for this proposal of mine.

Question, Vedibere

Ivonova may yet know codes for this place. If she was granted the blackout needed, shouldn't there be some part of her censor program that would let her act during times of life threatening danger?

Say send her into the mainframe, and cut the cameras/close the doors, and then fret while waiting for the major to happen?

>>15951570
This is true, but honestly I don't think Vedi would put us through that. We sent the best people for the job, because we can't send a throw-away team; we don't have the people. If this setting is super fucking realistic, then yea, this could be a situation in which there was no chance for survival, but why would Vedi put it in the game then? To teach us a lesson about not sticking our head in everything? That seems like the opposite of what a GM wants when he makes a brand new setting.

Sorry for the blatant metagaming, but I just refuse to believe, without it coming out of his mouth, that Vedi would be okay with us simply losing some of our best people to curiosity. If we lose people here, I'll assume it will be because we didn't find the answer.

>>15951611
>major

Magic, even.

>>15951539
Look.

When you say "Search everything" it's like saying "Look everywhere, but because you are looking everywhere in an enormous fucking base you won't be checking every spot as well as you could." It gives you an overview.

It takes TIME to search thoroughly. A lot of time. Just saying to search everything will never be as thorough as saying to search specific places unless you have said enormous amount of time.

A base this size, to search completely, would take a week or two at least.

After we glass this place, Vedibere, would you tell us if there was any purpose to this, or if it was just a trap for those of us too curious for our own good?

We've gotten nothing at all out of this mess.

>>15951622
As I understand Vedibere has been known to do such things. I support it, as it lends itself to a much better story, imho. Plotarmour is something I do not like.

>>15951611
When the shit hits the fan, when we did everything, we could simply say:
"We'll shut off all surveillance, as to give you private space and make your peace," this is a very believeable excuse, but it ought to be used next to last.

>>15951622

Vedibere has mentioned before that he won't hesitate to kill characters (or us) if we do something stupid.

Honestly, sending a team into a biohazard zone after getting that message decoded "it ate through our containment seals!"... fairly stupid.

>>15951629
Are there separate vaults near the labs?
I understand there are a very good few vaults down, the ones nearest to the actual workshops and microscopes are the ones most likely to stock what we need.

Depending on the answer to my earlier question, I may end up suggesting we give a stab at hacking this our self. Things seem really fucking dire and with data access we'd have both information and an exact location on where to aim our search.

>>15951622
I don't believe this situation was a losing one from the getgo. It was not illogical to assume the microbes that wiped out the people in this facility would have been killed after the final containment procedure had been enacted and 65000 years had passed. The man in the video we watched at the start of all this did seem to indicate that a rescue operation was possible.

>>15951651
>>15951649
>Vedibere has mentioned before that he won't hesitate to kill characters (or us) if we do something stupid.
>Honestly, sending a team into a biohazard zone after getting that message decoded "it ate through our containment seals!"... fairly stupid.
This is true, but then what does that make this place, a mousetrap? It was just a hole that we could lose resources in and nothing more? That just seems... odd.

It's realistic, but, I don't know, I kinda expected at least some sort of plot to exploring the station other than the whole "They were making a virus, and the virus mutated and killed them all."

I guess I won't be surprised if there was no solution after all, but I'll be disappointed.

I'll amend my previous proposal:

> breach the vault(s)
> if no result, give them private time, shut off all surveillance, give Ivanova the chance to do something if she can.
> hack the mainframe

we had 5 guys in favour of that, and before we hit the site from orbit, I say we explore all remaining possiblities

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there's like 7 guys in favour of that, unless someone says "NO!" to the amended version of giving them private time so Ivanova could do some magic.

>>15951629
Alright. Do any of the computers still function down here, or has the radiation scrapped them all? If one's working down here, it should have a map with labeled rooms. If there is a storeroom, there should be all kinds of chemicals, drugs, and so on. Maybe there will be a proto-cure or a stabilizer that will keep someone alive for a bit.

Idea: Can the frozen people be uploaded to EIs while still frozen? If so, we can save their knowledge.

>>15951701
Sounds good. None of the people saying "nuke it from orbit" are objecting, so I assume they don't mind if we take these extra days attempting to find something.

...

So, did we really just lose all the people who were in cryo by pulling them out when we KNEW that they would just die because we had no way of keeping them alive?

Fuck it. Why is it that the stupid ideas are the only ones that get used while the people who say things like "keep an eye on that glove, constantly monitor the progression of the virus" get completely ignored?

>>15951732
I think we just ran out of frozen people, or am I mistaken?

>>15951737
that makes it 8 in favour.

Oh my, I said it earlier and it didn't turn out to be a jinx:

We got ourselves a productive thread today :)

Deceptively simple idea.

Knowledge of what to do "in case of breech" should be pretty widely available. A report to x message might've been forwarded to the faculty, or if my experience of playing bad video games is anything to go by that information should be in the email on someone sort of important.

Way I see it, that stuff shouldn't be as well protected as the core itself. Worth a shot, maybe?

>>15951701
Supporting this.

>>15951732
EI's require a lot of personal, expertise, and equipment that we don't have.

>>15951758
>that makes it 8 in favour.
Believe it or not, I can count.

>>15951751
>>15951753
No, there's plenty more.

We lost 2 of 8(that seemed more or less okay), while we have more in gruesome condition.

The one vault we can open contains more cryopods as we know, so we still have people in pods to unfreeze.

>Everybody namefagging?
>>15950507
>Wait, have we even tried to put this virus under a microscope yet to see what it looks like? Can we even detect it, or can we only detect it's effects?

Could we have someone do this should we go through a timeskip again? Use a metal implement to put a sample on a slide and make sure nobody actually touches the damn thing.
Try exposing the sample to high intensity radiation in the visible, UV and IR ranges. If that does nothing crank the power up and see what sort of temperature it takes to destroy the damn thing, even if we have to get the material to a plasma state. Getting SOME kind of info on the upper limits it can survive would be useful.

Additional info: What sort of temperature can our bio seals survive?

Other than that agreeing with Bishop's plan.

HOW ABOUT WE DONT BREACH THE FUCKING VAULT WHERE ALL THE BIOLOGICAL SHIT IS?

HOW ABOUT IF, AND LETS SEE IF THIS MIGHT BE A PLAN, BUT IF, THOSE WHO ARE CONTAMINATED AND THE MICROBES ARE EATING THROUGH THE HEAVY ARMOR, GO TO TWO SHUTTLES.

TWO SHUTTLES.

THEY GO INTO ONE SHUTTLE AND STRIP OFF THEIR HEAVY ARMOR.

THEN THEY MOVE INTO THE SECOND SHUTTLE AND ARE CHECKED TO SEE IF THEIR UNDER ARMOR IS CONTAMINATED. IF NOT, THEN THEY'RE FINE.

IF THEY ARE CONTAMINATED, THEN THEY'RE STILL AS FUCKED AS THEY WERE BEFORE.

>>15951775
I believe it alright, I just find it beneficial to keep a tally running for everyone to see, so they can speak up. There's loads of people who seem not to read everything, so it's probably for the better to have a "so and so many people are in favour of idea X" so they can evaluate the possiblity of arguing it / the benefit of not speaking out or whatever :)

>>15951682
> I don't believe this situation was a losing one from the getgo.

It always was for one reason: the good ideas always get ignored.

Guys, instead of nuking the site from orbit...

could we instead task someone on the ground team to empty/prep cryo tubes? I figure they'd have to purge the main exo armor, but they might be able to hop into cryo with the inner part.

Freeze them and extract every bit of data we can via drones. If we ever run across some specialist that can come up with a cure, we return and reclaim our fucking crew members. (and drones!)

oh, and shouldn't our drones be able to recharge somehow down there? surely their is either an outlet or they can splice into something non-vital's power supply to recharge, should we decide to linger after freezing the ground team...

>>15951803
I thought you hated smileys? ;) :P

>>15951803
I appreciate it actually, it makes me feel like we're actually organized or something.

>This makes two people in favor of your counting the number of people in favor of something.

>>15951700
>>15951682
I think this is the case.

The only winning move would be to say "Nice base, I think I'll ignore it."

If there IS anything good here, we won't find it. It's probably hidden by some incredibly hard puzzle.

>>15951803
Also supporting this motion.
Running tallies are nice for those of us fucking off on something else while we wait.

>>15951823
I'm fairly certain they have to be naked for freezing, but if not this would be a good idea for when they run out of food at the very least.

I still say we should seal and repressurize one of the irradiated airlocks, and defrost a single cryopod to see if the person is immune to the radiation, and to see if the heavy radiation will stop the microbes from killing him.

>>15951866
I believe we killed all of the frozen people that were viable...

>>15951866
No more defrosting. It's essentially the same as killing them right now.

>>15951866
> see if the person is immune to the radiation

....

What? You do know that we can just figure that out ourselves without defrosting anyone, right?

>>15951782
So what makes you think that any of the people in cryo aren't as infected as everyone else on this station?

>>15951880
We don't want someone who is viable for this test, we want someone who is infected. If they aren't infected the SCION won't be there to possibly prevent the radiation from killing the person.

We need one pod with someone who isn't obviously ripping out their eyes, but are clearly in pain. We have one of our already contaminated officers in the airlock with him to keep him from killing himself before the radiation can take effect, providing it has the ability to halt the lethal effects of the microbes.

Vedibere, got enough?

I don't think there's much else we can do.

Why are people so obsessed with defrosting people? There is literally nothing we can do to keep them alive once they're out of cryo. Defrosting them is as good as putting a bullet in them.

>>15951936
Yes.

But.

In deference to the night crew, who are not here right now and are very much effected by what happens here, I will point something out: Your current plan blows goats. Yes, seriously.

I am going to go get something to eat. I will be gone an hour. When I get back I will begin writing.

I suggest you review everything that has happened since you entered the base and perhaps read some of the plans and comments in the last thread. I am reluctant to just kill everyone when several very poignant and excellent observations have been made but -- due to the thread being over at the time -- not actually taken up and formed into a course of action.

>>15951902
Really? Tell me how.

Because if these people can survive the radiation then it's possible that the radiation will keep the microbes from killing them just like it prevents the microbes from eating through the seals of the suits.

We're dragging this debate out longer than it needs. We've got a plan, let's just do it and move on.

Vedibere, a few questions.

1) Does our ship have the capabilities to heal people of radiation poisoning?

2) How harmful were the radiation levels on the highest level of the facility? Low enough that it wouldn't immediately kill someone exposed to it?

3) How durable are the under suits beneath the heavy armor to radiation? And do they themselves allow for breathing without external atmosphere?

4) If not, could we construct a makeshift airlock on the highest level of the facility?

Depending on these facts, I propose something similar to this:
>>15951798

We ask for a volunteer who has the contamination on them. They go to the highest level where the radiation is lowest (and possibly survivable?). There they strip off the eroded armor, down to the underarmor. Then they themselves are checked to see if the contamination has gotten any deeper than that. If they are fine, then we move them to a shuttle quarantine, with oxygen and food. If after however long it's supposed to take, (several hours or so, wasn't it?), they have no signs of infection, then we move ahead.

>>15951977
Brotier quest runner.

Guess we've got some reading to do.

>>15951977
thanks for the hint man, though I really can't recall anything in that regard

>>15951976
>>15951976
That is not necessarily true. Something has kept every body in this facility fresh for 65000 years. Their red blood cells are still alive! Erella said so herself http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15904452/#15910285

If the radiation can put the microbes that infect these people into a dormant state then we can defrost infected people and they can help us!

>>15952046
Neither do I, though I'll read into it now.

Can I ask a few of you players something?

Smiley?
Bishop?
Ketroxshipper?

How old are you? 13? 12? Because seriously, you guys have almost no critical thinking ability.

>>15952046
I think it's the fact that people seem to be forgetting that we have a card that gives us access to restricted parts of the base now. And we STILL haven't given Ivanova permission to go looking for more information.

>>15952050
>>15952050
defrosting people in the radiation is most certainly deadly.

Unless the radiation would keep the virus in check while the immortality-gene keeps them alive somehow. The liquid didn't boil.


What if it's a giant oversight on our part - the immortality thing protects them from the negative effects of radiation.


The people on the station probably didn't know, expecting to die due to the radiation they fled into the pods...


Let's open one pod in a not-so-highly-radiated-area

>>15952066
Ivanova used the card and discovered it only accesses one of the vaults. But you are right, it could unlock other things in the facility.

>>15952050
The red blood cells may be alive, but that doesn't mean a PERSON can survive in this soup of radiation and bioweapons.

>>15952056
wichever number I would tell you - you couldn't verify either way. I could claim to be thirty, or 18, or 21, or anything.

>>15952050
ARE YOU BLIND? THE FUCKING 2ND EXPERIMENT KEEPS THEM ALIVE.

AND IT ALSO KEEPS THE MICROBE ALIVE.

EVERYONE IN THIS FACILITY IS COMPLETELY, 100% FUCKED IN THE ASS.

Except for possibly our crew if we can save them before their infection spreads.

>>15952088
> The people on the station probably didn't know, expecting to die due to the radiation they fled into the pods...

Some of them were dying from the virus in the process of going into the pods. The radiation inhibits the virus' ability to corrode a suit or a pod, that's all we really know. It could easily still be lethal to a human.

If we exposed the entire base to Vacuum What would happen?

This is turning into another cluster fuck. Let's just go with the defrosting experiments and move on. We're just wasting time as it is.

>>15952130
That would be impossible for us to do, seeing as the majority of the facility is kilometers underground and is enormous.

>>15952130
The Base IS in vacuum. All has been vented.

>>15952088
>>15952088
Yes! Finally! This is what I've been saying.

>>15952100
That's why we test the hypothesis!

>We need one pod with someone who isn't obviously ripping out their eyes, but are clearly in pain. We have one of our already contaminated officers in the airlock with him to keep him from killing himself before the radiation can take effect, providing it has the ability to halt the lethal effects of the microbes.

>>15952143
Defrosting people will lead to one and only one thing: whoever is defrosted dies. That's all it would tell us, and we already know that, so defrosting anyone at this point is just a colossal waste.

Also, no more timeskips. That's what got Erella killed, that's what wasted days worth of resources, and it's just going to run the clock down and lose us the ground team.

>>15952128
No, wrong! We know that even after 65000 years in a vacuum these corpses still have living red blood cells.

The radiation cleansing would have happened after the people were in cryo and those that couldn't get into cry had died already.

>>15952158
>>15952088

No. The virus is on all the equipment. It's on the outsides of the suits, it's on the pods, it's everywhere in the base. If we open a pod, even if it's a person who doesn't seem to have the virus, they will die from it. Cracking open those pods gets us nothing but another dead person.

How are so many people here so fucking retarded? Seriously?

>>15952176
WRONG

who we defrosted we defrostet AFTER decontamination in a NON RADIATED area.


I saw 3 guys in favour of defrosting one in radiation. Let's try it. The radiation could be a failsafe, a deadmanswitch that triggered only after everyone was gone. Maybe they never expected the immortality gene to work in that way.


I say we try it, defrost one in Radiation.

really everyone? 34 humans left alive in the universe, we find a small number more, and now you're playing games with their lives?

this entire plan is the stupidest I've ever heard, even if it does work. think of the morale loss for the survivors (including your own crew).

the next step should be to hack the computer of the guy who had the key card, it's on the research level so it should be hooked up to the database, get a floor-plan and figure out which labs were doing what research.

>>15952196
insults don't help bro.

be constructive

>>15952202
His computer didn't have that information on it.

Guys, only the top levels of the base (the abandoned ones) were vented.

There is STILL AIR in the areas with corpses.

>>15952186
> No, wrong! We know that even after 65000 years in a vacuum these corpses still have living red blood cells.

Because of the anti-aging bug. It's not a "keep people alive" bug, it's a "don't let the stuff decay" bug. The main bioweapon kills people through other means, it doesn't care about damaging blood cells. The fact that those corpses still have blood means a grand total of nothing for the purposes of keeping the people alive after pulling them out of cryo.

>>15952221
/his/ computer didn', if it was hooked up to any sort of database on the other hand...

on top of that Ivanova may have been a spook, but she likely still has nothing on us so far as hacking goes.

>>15952201
Fourth in favor.

>>15952234
So we do that?
We see to it that one of the rooms (probably one of the vaults?) is pressurized and radiated and unfrost one of them.

It's a snowballs chance in hell, but if we don't do anything they'll just either die or be there for eternity.

OKAY, EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP FOR A MOMENT AND READ THIS POST.

ALL INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW:

>The microbe is completely lethal and effectively immortal after mutating.
>The radiation inside of the base retards it on a molecular level.
>Our fatality physically touched it with her under armor glove. After she left the radiated areas, it began to eat through her suit rapidly, ultimately resulting in her death.
>Rinn and the ensigns are experiencing decay in their seals. As far as we know, they did not touch any of the liquid. Hence, it can be inferred that the microbe is in fact airborne. Hence, it can be inferred that the entirety of the external layer of their armor is infected.
>Vacuum's effect on the microbe is unknown, as the previous test took place in a shuttle with atmosphere. I am NOT advocating a test in vacuum.

>continued.

>>15952100
>The red blood cells may be alive, but that doesn't mean a PERSON can survive in this soup of radiation and bioweapons.
Quite true. Given what we've seen it could have some incredibly nasty effects on neural tissue. Does it attack the brain through the optic nerves? Or does it spread through the body, reach the brain and only then the real fun begins?
Short of an autopsy it'd be difficult to find out but that would expose whoever does it to even more contamination. We still need more information and as Vedibere has said we need to narrow our search parameters to give our people a chance of finding something.

We're fairly certain lance fire can destroy these microbes, what weapons are the search party armed with?
>>15951784
As per my questions in this post here I'm thinking it might be possible to first render our people unconsious and then flash vaporise the contents of a decon chamber. This would include the biohazard suits they were wearing and the outer layer of their bodies. Each crewman would be horribly injured in this process but it could be surviveable given our technology. We'd have to talk to the Dr about it.

>>15952227
And radiation seems to send that bioweapon into a dormant state.

See where I'm going with this? The radiation puts the bioweapon into a dormant state. The anti aging/decay bug keeps the radiation from killing the person.

>>15952201
i just want you to think for a bit.

you've got crew on your ship and on the ground, crew who know what's going on, and will know what you're about to do.

junior officers who are likely going to talk about it afterwords, and even if they don't others on your ship are going to know that /something/ happened.

those crew members are going to see you risking lives in a manner that shows no appreciable benefit, they're going to wonder "is he going to do this to me next time? am I going to end up as just a guinea pig in the next hazardous situation we come across?e

>>15952278
> And radiation seems to send that bioweapon into a dormant state.

It stops it from eating things. It doesn't necessarily stop it from killing people.

>Re reading that particular series of posts I notice that Ivanova said that she had found technical data that was outside her area of expertise. We really should have someone take a look at that.

Think we did already, but just in case.

Couldn't find anything else of note, but I'll keep digging.
Anyhow, killing off SCION should be easier as not only is it man made here and should be better documented. but it should also be far less resilient (to something) as it wasn't a military weapon.

The hell were both of these being developed here anyway they have nothing in common, and SCION seems like it'd be more at home in a core system in the most expensive lab possible, while the plague is the one that would need to be hidden in the ass end of nowhere.

Either way, if we have the research data killing SCION seems most possible and would likely take far less time, which should leave the xeno plague a touch more vulnerable maybe even to the radiation. Also, the only decon/cure we'll find will be for that, as I can't see them having the anti virus to immortality.

I hate you all.

I found the solution in ten minutes of reading back threads.

>1. Vedi had Ivanova say something was weird about that high-level dude with the keycard being in the office.
>2. He was head researcher in Scion.
>3. Vedi said in this very thread that Ivanova only did a simple quick search of the offices.
>4. Someone fucking POINTED OUT that if we kill Scion the nasty-bug will die if it isn't already in a host.
>5. Someone in the very last thread PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER and already said that the guy was probably going for some sort of Scion-killer antidote thing he had stored in his office.
>6. Oh my god I hate you all.

Hell, looking back through we've never even searched the heavily irradiated part of the labs. Hurrdurr I wonder where all the testing went on and where the decontaminant was most likely stored durrhurr.

>>15952287
And if we sit around and do nothing they all die. We need to defrost those people. It's the only direction left, so let's just do it and move on.

I swear to God. Smiley and his retard brigade is going to lead to the end of this entire quest.

>>15952298
Exactly. We don't know one way or the other. That's why we need to do a test. These people are dead anyway due to how far the infection has progressed. Unless there's a cure that acts instantaneously they'd die before it could take effect. So why not try this out?

>>15952315
NO! FUCKING NO!

WE ARE NOT DEFROSTING ANY ONE ELSE. THEY ARE ARE INFECTED WITH THE MICROBE AND WILL FUCKING DIE AND GIVE US NOTHING.

>>15952287
they're military personell.
They have been trained for situations like that, for the psychological stress, for the strong possiblity of death, and the strong possiblity of extreme measures being necessary.

You're applying a wrong set of morals or ethics.
While I was with the military, I've seen drill do things to people you wouldn't expect. Being willing to beat up people if ordered, being willing to shoot people if ordered.


If it's our only option, we make that clear to those people, and we do what we must.

>>15952312
We also have the scientists Keycard that can open doors (probably) we havent managed to get access to yet.

>>15952352
read this thread or the archive, this has been answered over and over again.

The keycard only opens one of the vaults, any other door we can open.

>>15952317
>I swear to God. Smiley and his retard brigade is going to lead to the end of this entire quest.
I wonder how many times that has been uttered in history.

>>15952348
If you're not going to be helpful and just want to scream NO at everything, then go away.

Defrost them in an irradiated area.

>>15952312
I, uh, I like this plan.

Can we do this?

>>15952312
>>15952312
Fine, we'll check that out. But if we find nothing we are going to defrost someone in an irradiated room with breathable air and see if the radiation prevents the microbe from killing people.

>>15952312
this seems to be the best option, at least in my book...

>>15952315
you are so incredibly wrong on so many levels that i can't even begin to describe it.

first of all the people in cryo aren't going to die anytime soon since they're in bloody cryo, and the microbe is dormant in radiation, so the only people we need to worry about saving is the ground team, once we're able to save them then the people in cryo are bloody easy.

next up, we have a crapton of lab to search, the lab level being the one with all the important data, on things like the structure of the two bugs, which would give hints on how to destroy them.

talk to the civilian chemist he could check and see what would cause a reaction with the cell walls that'd unravel them.

finding a database on the lab level wouldn't hurt either, potentially could find a map/lab layout in the administration office.

but my bet is the computer in the lead of the scion project's office

>>15952312
also a good point.

You have my vote.

This is a research lab, right? You guys know what research labs [and medical facilities] generally have in abundance? CLEANING SUPPLIES THAT KILL SHIT.

Right now our priority is not to cure infected persons, but to sanitize our exo suits to extract our people.

1)Sodium hypochlorite [attacks cellular membranes and breaks them down] (bleach!)

we should be able to find this in storage areas (perhaps in solution, perhaps in a powder/concentrated form), this shit is generally used in a VERY diluted form to kill EVERYTHING. Up the concentration as high as we can and dip/spray/scrub the exo suits and a room.
2) Concentrated Alcohol (~62-70%+) [kills organisms by denaturing their proteins and dissolving their lipids]

-We have a STILL that is clearly producing powerful alcohol ON OUR SHIP. combine that with anything we find down there (search specifically around lab areas and in them, there should be scrub areas and wall-mounted dispensers with the shit) and we should easily find/produce enough to dip/spray/scrub the suits and possibly a small room.

while you digest that, I'll be checking out more cleaning supplies for more things to commit MICROBE GENOCIDE with.

You're all dragging it out longer than it needs to be. This is why we're in this mess in the first place, people wasted Vedibere's time with pointless questions and debate and obsessing over every little detail.

Just defrost the remaining scientists in cryo in an irradiated area. The radiation will keep the virus dormant, and the anti-aging thing will keep the radiation from hurting them. They can then tell us how to fix this mess and we can move on with the quest.

>>15952408
bleach isn't likely to kill tailored microbes, in fact if i was designing a killer bug that's the very first weakness I'd remove if at all possible (and handwavium says it probably will be in this universe)

>>15952312
changing my vote to this,

>>15952408
We already tried all of that at the very start of the thread. The virus seems to be immune to standard decon chemicals/procedures.

>>15952421
We can try it, but first we can search the head scientist of scions office and probably related labs and search for what the other guy who smiley referred to proposed.

Kill the immortalityvirus, have the bioweapon die.

However, that would NOT heal any of the incubated people, it would not enable us to unfreeze them, or am I mistaken?

>>15952408
>>15952408
This bug survives more radiation than that meltdown in Japan has produced and you think alcohol will kill it?

Fine, we'll try that too. Might as well, we've tried stupider things

Guys please stop reviving people that are likely to insta-die without at least having looked at the neural tussue of those who have gone before them.

>>15952312
Congrats. Let me find you a suitable reaction image.

Now that leaves the problem of sending drones in to search, but more importantly *where* in that area to look to speed things up.

>>15952421
I hate you.

Wow, the people who jump onto these threads early are really stupid. Defrosting people? In this mess? WTF?

We need to kill SCION, not condemn more people to die.

>>15952421
There are about a dozen posts above you saying why that's a terrible idea.

>>15952448
No, you have it. Killing Scion could save our crew, but it would do nothing for anyone with Namtar in their body.

Hey guys, it's simple!

Just get a garden hose, and put our finger over it so it sprays REAL REAL HARD, and then just spray this virus thing off of our guys.

Case closed.

>>15952448
no, you're probably right there, if they're infected they're probably as good as dead.

though we don't know how many of the ones in cryo are actually infected, nor do we know for sure that there is no cure.

still they're probably going to die.

>>15952461
Actually, there's not. We defrost one and keep him from clawing his eyes out if he's at that stage. If he dies, well, at that stage he'd have died anyway, so no loss. If he lives, then we can defrost others and they can assist us.

>>15952471
Well, saving the crew is priority one I dare say.

Let's just do it, search for a SCIONkiller, search the corresponding labs, thoroughly, use drones, use the people on the ground, search the office of the head scientist as well. He went there, probably for that exact reason. Rip out walls, tear apart the tables and whatever there is, we search thoroughly those two areas.

Detonate the clustereater.

Also, hack the mainframe. Wasn't that one of the earlier suggestions?

You should also review the last thread as Vedi suggestion. I am off to sleep.

P.S. Did you guys defrost several pods killing everyone inside? What the hell were you thinking? I understand one cryo but more than that? Come on.

>>15952493
Whether it kills SCION or NAMTAR it'll be of use.

Seeing if we can kill Scion is our NUMBER ONE priority.

If we can do that, then we'll be way ahead of the curve.

Now, if we can kill it, then a great, and I mean FANTASTICALLY great test would be to kill Scion on the upper level, where there is still live blood and stew. If we kill it there, then we're left with basic Namtar in a radiated environment. Now, Namtar is supposed to have what, 33 second life cycle?

If we can kill the Scion, then observe the Namtar in the irradiated zone, where it is dormant, we can see if it would be viable to try, and I mean it heavily here, TRY to unfreeze the infected in low radiation zones.

Now that would require a few big breaks though. The first being that we can kill Scion. The second being that while in the irradiated zone, without Scion, the Namtar would go through it's standard lifecycle and die. Third being whether or not those infected with Namtar would survive the process.

That's a lot of ifs. But it seems like a possibly solution if every one of those steps goes well.

>>15952499
Yeah there was a popular suggestion to test the decontamination abilities of our ship. Don't know why so many pods were used for that.

>>15952499
Apparently someone thought it was a brilliant idea to defrost some of the pods. And, as is usual for this quest, the stupid ideas are the only ones that Vedibere picks to use.

>>15952510
I'd say scion is by far the more important though, since it's technically the one that made namtar so bad.

basically if we kill namtar but not scion we'll be bringing scion back onto the ship where it will spread. now someone happens to have space-flu when scion was spreading, all of a sudden everyone on the ship is getting space-flu forever.

>>15952529
Nah, it's not that. He goes with the majority choice. And the retards yell loudest and drown out every alternative until people stop fighting and just go along with it.

>>15952431
Hey, it is something for our two ensigns to do, at the very least. If they're starting to lose their cool, sending them to search for specific things might help their mental state and give them some hope. Meanwhile our officers can search for the cure or do another plan.

>>15952529
No, they are simply the only ones butthurt people like you bitch about. You don't seem to complain overmuch when I implement good ideas, even if they have less support than bad ones.

In short: U mad

>>15952517
Hang on a sec. If we find something that can kill Scion that's great, that save anyone whos suit is contaminated but isn't actually infected. However, with anyone who is infected it won't matter if Scion dies because Namtat only has a short lifespan outside of the body.

>>15952569
Hey, Vedibere what's the maximum temperature the bioseals on our suits can survive?

>>15952574
yeah, and none of our crew have been infected (other than Erella but it's a little late to worry about her)

saving the people in cry would be nice, and we should certainly try to do so, but our crew are far more important.

>>15952595
I'm going to guess PLOT degrees Celsius.

>>15952602
I'd also assume not enough to withstand whatever solar+ levels of heat would be required to kill these germs.

>>15952569
So Vedibere, how goes making sense of the clusterfuck that occurred in your absence?

>>15952598
None of our crew are infected yet. But Rinn and two ensigns' armors are covered in the shit.

>>15952569
not sure if you're up to answering a question, but is it safe to assume that >>15952408 's suggested substances were not used in an attempt to decontaminate the people in those cryopods we opened, as they'd have been useless at curing a person already infected?

>>15952619
Ivanova's probably is as well, it just can't find something to nom through.

>>15952595
from last thread
>Depends on how hot it is. Let's just say they can resist up to "really, really fucking hot."

>>15952633
actually it's just that Ivanovas armor has never been outside the highly irradiated lab since exposure, the others were, the key thing about killing scion though, is that namtar is only viable for ~33 seconds outside the body, so kill scion and namtar dies off too quickly to make it through the suit.

>namtar is only viable for ~33 seconds outside the body, so kill scion and namtar dies off too quickly to make it through the suit.

We hope that's the case, but we can't be sure. We don't know that Namtar wasn't capable of killing everything in this facility even without Scion. Namtar might be capable on feeding on something the seals are made of and multiplying, which would be why it was capable of what it did to this facility. Namtar may have only needed Scion to survive the radiation and the centuries.

>>15952642
Thank you very much. Missed that among all of the other stuff in that thread.
Alright, this may seem overly simplistic but some someone on our ground team PLEASE just try heating a sample of this stuff to REALLY, REALLY FUCKING HOT.
If that's too out of the box I'm still supporting sending drones into the lab.
>>15952312

>>15952724
it was flat out stated that it was only viable for a very short period of time though i may have confused it's length of viability with how long it takes to kill someone after infection..

>>15952666
>>15952724
Have we taken a look at what Namtar/Scion actually looks like yet? Plenty of equipment in this facility. I don't know why we haven't taken a blood sample from one of those corpses and stuck it under a microscope to see what this bug actually looks like.

>>15952767
Thousands of tiny troll faces.

>>15952724
So we kill Scion and even if Namtar lasts for hours it still dies due to the fuck huge radiation levels. Still good.

I think Vedibere got Namtar from Ratman in reverse, since it fucking eats everything.

>>15952805
You think wrong! WRONG.

>>15952805
The letters can be rearranged to form RAM TAM, which makes sense because the disease kicks your ass like River Tam, as well as MANTRA, MAN ART, ARM ANT, and TAM RAN, which scares even me.

>>15952805
It's named after an ancient god of death. Incidentally that goes by the alternative name of Nergle.


At any rate, am I the only one who likens Vedibere to Alice?

I just want to get off this fucking moon.

>>15952862
Mantra! That's it, we pull everyone to a shuttle, pulls them out of cryo/their suits and have them all chant, so long as they maintain a low sonorous chant they'll live lon wholesome monk lives.

We've found the cure, everyone comes home.

>>15952891
Fanon or canon?

>>15952929
Canon, can't you see it?

>>15952271
This post made me think of something.

Can we have our Doctor on the ship remote control a drone to preform an autopsy? Or maybe one of the ground crew could do it while he instructs? Cause that guy was right, an autopsy could be very helpful.

>>15952891
>Ancient god
Correct.

>Alice
i'mokaywiththis.jpg

Alice is delicious.

>>15952993
That's exactly the Alice I had in mind.

>>15952993
are you writing?
I am not under the impression that we reached some consens

>>15952971
How would that be helpful exactly?

We would know how the virus kills people. Great. We'd still have no way to stop it.

I seriously doubt if the amazing scientists working on this thing couldn't find something obvious to hamper it, we aren't going to by a cursory examination of a body.

>>15953022
I don't think it's possible to reach a consensus in this quest.

>>15953037
I don't think it's possible for large numbers of humans to reach a consensus.

>>15953049
There probably aren't more than 20 people in here, and 20 people can sometimes reach a consensus. Just not here.

>>15953035
It would give us a better idea of who to choose when we defrost a person in an irradiated area to see if the radiation will halt the spread of Namtar while Scion prevents the from being harmed by the radiation.

>>15953106
Fair enough. Let's try it.

>>15953106
Or how bout we not defrost anyone just yet? I think looking around for something with which to kill SCION is a better idea at this point.

"I'm a war ship, Kateryna, not a doctor!"

yeah, I had to

>>15953135
If we want to save any of the scientists we will have to try it sometime unless we find a cure for Namtar. Killing Scion won't save someone who's already infected. We don't need to defrost someone until we've tried some of these other options, but if we can't get more details on Namtat from the computer then an autopsy would be the next best thing.

>>15953171
We already have bodies to preform an autopsy on because for some reason we already defrosted and killed 2 of the 8 who seemed viable. We don't need to defrost any more people, especially when it will probably just kill them.

>>15953202
The hypothesis is that if we defrost someone who is infected in an irradiated area that Scion would prevent the person from being harmed by the radiation while Namtar would be forced into dormancy by the radiation.

We don't need to defrost someone for an autopsy. We won't even need an autopsy if we can get info on Namtar and Scion from the computer.

>>15953171
Actually, killing Scion raises their chances of survival by a great deal in my opinion.

>>15953238
Not if they're still infected with Namtar. Killing Scion only saves our uninfected crew and gets our equipment back.

This entire side-quest has been a fucking complete disaster. Vedi can you start opening the quest back up later please? The sheer amount of stupid coming from the retard day shift namefags is sickening.

>>15953274
If they're infected with Namtar, we pretty much don't have any way of saving them, with or without Scion. Getting rid of Scion will let us salvage what we can from this mess.

>>15953276
It's because there are some whiners who insist on dragging this entire thing out into a pointless clusterfuck, and then bitch when things don't go their way.

>>15953305
If this >>15953236 turns out to be correct then the scientists can be defrosted and live as long as they stay in an irradiated area. They might be able to work out a cure for Namtar.

FUCK THE CRYO SCENTISTS!!!!! They are dead unless we have an INSTANT CURE!! We need to focus ALL of our efforts on killing SCION to end this shit-fest. SIck all of our personnel on the ground that are not tied down RIGHT NOW to tearing those offices apart, corner to fucking corner, top to bottom, looking for what the black-ops executive was trying to get his hands on as he died.

>>15953349
>FUCK THE CRYO SCENTISTS

If we could talk to those scientists we wouldn't need to waste time tearing this facility apart.

>>15953378
DO WE FUCKING HAVE A CURE FOR THEM RIGHT NOW?!?!??!?!? No? Then they are a fucking trap and are a worthless waste of time. The simple fact that the black-ops executive is in his office instead of where everyone else was at the time meant he was going for something to kill the thing keeping Namtar alive ie. SCION. Therefore it is SOMEWHERE in those goddamned offices, which is what we SHOULD HAVE HAD OUR PEOPLE DOING INSTEAD OF SITTING WITH THEIR THUMBS UP THEIR ASSES FOR 2/6 DAYS!!!!!!
Im willing to fucking bet money that that delay killed all of them.

> Limited time?
> adviceharbinger.jpg
> Let's have a 2 day timeskip!

>>15953421
And to all the motherfucking retards that were saying "LAWLNOTIMELIMITHURPFUCKINGDURP" in the previous threads, where is your infinite time now motherfuckers?!?!??!??!?!??!?!

>>15953410
That's not entirely true.
What we're looking for could be in the vault his card opened too.

Though I do agree with tearing his office afuckingpart, we should lend just as much focus to the vault if nothing turns up there first.

>>15953421
:D

sorry, only good response I got to that....

>>15953378
Maybe, maybe not. The ones who know the answers may be dead already. It is a definite possibility they can help us, but if we have limited time then I would rather focus on the computers.
If we can have someone try that access card on other doors we might open up a research or data storage area (ignoring the cryo-vaults for now, since they may be very compromised).

My overall thoughts are that we need to find as much possible about Scion, and focus on eliminating it (or what methods do so) since it seems to be the cause of Namtar's unnatural longevity.

Specifics: Attempt to hack computers (possibly mainframe if that is necessary)
Check keycard against other doors in the Scion research area.
If possible, get a drone camera up against a microscope and look at some of the liquids that haven't evaporated. If there's some water we'll start with that as it is the simplest (and easiest to detect oddities from).

>>15953432
If we hadn't rushed things and ignored all the people saying "keep an eye on the glove, check up on it, don't let it out of the radiation" then we wouldn't have lost Erella.

Time skipping is the same as rushing things, and rushing things at this point just invites disaster. Hell, it always did.

>>15953432
Taking the time to be careful isn't the same as a time skip.

>>15953410
>>15953410
Lot of assumptions there. There's no indication that killing Scion would have stopped Namtar from killing everyone in the facility.

Like I said before if >>15953236 is true then it won't matter if we don't have a cure for Namtar because they'll be able to give us the passcodes for the facility and we can go and get the one they were working on and get into their database without endangering ourself trying to hack it.

“Find anything?”

“Not yet, but...” Ivanova trails off, crouching and running her hand over a unisteel floor panel. Standing again, she turns to you and steps carefully over the scientist’s body. “I think I have something. Some of my scans are showing a possible false floor there. May I have the keycard? I think I saw a slot between the panels.”

“I didn’t detect anything.” you say, sliding the card from the receptacle on your drone’s side,

In response she shakes her head, “You probably just did not scan it from close enough. It is very well shielded, I did not pick it up the first time through either.” She steps back over and crouches down again, bringing the keycard to one of the lines where two of the plates meet. “Now, let us see.”

The key slides in smoothly and there is a brief humming before the entire plate pops up an inch, the movement and rush of air causing both of you to jump. Well, only proverbially for you, and more of a leap back into a fighting stance for her. You both watch silently as the plate rotates upward, revealing a small sealed compartment beneath it with a single uplink jack in the center. You move forward and drop a lead, hooking in and taking several minutes to defeat the security. It’s, well ‘good’ would be the understatement of the century. Still, you were designed for electronic warfare with other EIs and it is unable to resist you for long.

A sharp click echos throughout the room, causing you to turn toward Ivanova and nod. Your XO steps forward and, after seizing the handle, pulls the door open to reveal the treasure trove beneath. And what a treasure trove it is.

>>15953447
You go fuck yourself with a fucking cactus you worthless fucking retard.
>>15953461
I wasnt there when she died. I will hate myself forever for not keeping the faggots in check over this. We made a goddam promise to our crew AND ourselves, "We will restore humanity to its rightful place. We can do no less." When she died we FAILED a part of that promise, hell we almost failed when those boarders nearly killed the engineer. But we fucked up good coming here. And then i get on tonite to see this shit?
> Limited time?
> adviceharbinger.jpg
> Let's have a 2 day timeskip!
WHAT THE MOTHERFUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU FAGGOTS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Inside the compartment is sectioned into five segments covered in clear glass, the first one catching your eye being the cryofrozen compartment with lines of small vials within. Each is labeled with a number and name; SCION, NAMTAR, SHIVA, ADVENT, THRESHOLD, and MIDNIGHT among others. But the one that catches your attention is labeled “SCION K2X9-Terminant”.

It’s almost enough to distract you from the rest, but not quite. Another compartment contains several folders stamped “Auth: Principality/V-access req” surrounded by what are instantly recognizable as incendiaries. The third several pictures and pieces of jewelery. The fourth a folder marked “Research Notes; Auth: Angel/III” and the final a small device that looks like a small, handheld oval sphere with a black button on one end. On each compartment is a jack much like before.

You feel the tense pull of excitement at the new find. Excellent. You drift the drone forward and drop a lead, intending to unlock the various compartments, but Ivanova’s hand shoots out and snatches it from the air. Your servos whirr around to focus optics on her and she slowly releases her grip. ”I- I am sorry, Ged. I did not mean to. I...” she stands quickly, her voice hoarse as she continues, “I need to step outside.”

She quickly turns and darts out of the room, almost running.

If fucking dayshift just killed Ivanova that ENDS this quest. PERIOD.

>>15953500
What odd behavior.
I wonder if she's involved in any of this.

>>15953500
This guy was clearly more than just the head of the Scion project.

>>15953500
Looks like there's something there that we're not meant to see.

>>15953533
Probably old habits. Keeping outsiders from accessing secrets.

>>15953500
Need to talk to Ivanova. This is some heavy black ops shit here. It's like this guys was a plant for imperial intelligence.

>Secret intel base
>Floor with the Intel symbol and motto emblazoned as the first thing you see when you step off the elevator
>Searching high level researcher's room inside the base
>HEY GUYS, LIKE, I BET HE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH INTEL

Really? You think?

>>15953541
Agreed. If she wants to be the one to go through the contents rather than us I say let her.

Is this wat do?

Or is there more yet?

Read the notes/papers first to be sure we don't go and do something stupid like use the cure wrong?

>>15953571
Plaese tell me that did not just kill Ivanova.

>>15953582
Sounds like the smartest plan to me. Provided we can get them out of there without setting of the boobytraps.

It has information on her upgrades. She's the result of the Angel project. This is the perfect time to learn about her. Or we can follow her and be all; 'Dont worry babe, I still love you.' Then we bring in the vibrating drone.

>>15953598
This quest needs more people like this guy.

>>15953598
Wow, ok we just hit a damn brick wall. And at the same time we MIGHT have a shot of getting Ivanovas detcords to stop working so she can finally be free of the SEEECREETS! mode once and for all.

Check the oval thing first?

I'm betting the security will be a fuckton harder depending on what we try to unlock.check research notes first, if we get through forward that shit ASAP.
Then try the samples, and start moving it towards whoever can actually use it. THEN try the documents folder with the fire bombs in it we'll read those privately.
Lastly poke through his valuables on the way out, could be some nice bits in there, maybe even some fancy Intel kit like a laser ring.

>>15953598
>She's the result of the Angel project.
Holy shit... That makes so much sense

I vote we jack in and see what we can find about the SCION "terminant."

>>15953585
I'm personally just moderately stunned that anyone was surprised when it was revealed a head researcher in an Armada Intelligence base was affiliated with Armada Intelligence. It's like being surprised when a dog barks or a poster doesn't read.

I'm sure she's fine. Her programming is probably forcing her to defend secrets, so she just needs to step outside and take a breath while we tell her that we're not reading these folders or anything.

Get that terminant analyzed and reproduced and distributed. Find out if it has vaccine properties, or if it has to be injected after exposure. Hopefully the first considering how quickly the disease acts.

Treat the people in cryo when we've got enough of it. Maybe one of them has the authorization to open the files without those bombs going off.

>>15953623
We're going to have to make so much more of that shit it isn't even funny. Don't start giving it out like candy, work out a way to reproduce it.

>>15953609
Honestly I don't think we know enough about that to know if it would be best to free her like that.

Question now is: do we go after her or do we stay and try to crack all this ourself?

That 4th folder with the "Auth: Angel/III" might mean it's something that Ivanova is actually authorized to view, maybe?

>>15953623
> Get that terminant analyzed and reproduced and distributed. Find out if it has vaccine properties, or if it has to be injected after exposure. Hopefully the first considering how quickly the disease acts.

It's not a vaccine, it's presumably for getting rid of SCION, which is the anti-aging bug that's keeping NAMTAR going. It will help get rid of any hostless NAMTAR, but it won't save anyone already infected.

But we won't know until we find out more.

Also, we really need to do something about that bomb.

>>15953622
We're not the most intelligent of people sometimes.

"Just gently bump them."

I think it has to do with the degree of separation we have here. We're not ACTUALLY in a scenario where our every decision costs lives. If things go bad, we can just close the tab and do something else. So there's not much incentive to be perfect.

If these secrets really ARE about her, then it's iffy ground. On one hand, we could learn about it and then disable the security protocols in her head, freeing her up to be who she wants to be, and making her infinitely more useful to us. On the other, we might trigger a killswitch.

Considering that she led us to this system as best as she could, she probably wants us to read those files.

>>15953622
I know how you feel Vedi, and I think I know why you feel that way. You're the GM Vedi, so you work and work on the plot, setting, and characters, not to mention the actual writing itself. You spend 10 times more time working on this stuff than anyone does reading it, so what may seem obvious to you is very subtle to us, and what seems subtle to you is buried within the text to us.

I know. I've DMed a lot over the past couple years, and fell victim to the same thing. I would mention a plot-important object several times and my players wouldn't notice until the 10th time. Similarly I would subtly mention a plot-important object once or twice and no one would ever notice at all.

You know this setting forwards and backwards, but to us, it's an interactive novel, and we have to read the chapters a couple days apart. It's easy to forget.

>>15953644
NEVER follow an emotional women, she needs space.

This was just becuase we're about to learn things she'd rather (or is compelled) us not to know. Read away, learn what we can.

>>15953613
Seconding this order, save for the oval thing.

>>15953662
But sometimes she wants you to come after her. It's one of those very confusing things women do sometimes.

>>15953623
let's not assume things.

Have a drones set up to ensure she doesn't leave the base, give her a few moments then comm her and ask what's up and if she has any "feelings" that we should pay attention to in order to save all the crews lives, with emphasis on "all"

pop open the scion terminant first and have the drone move it far away from the vault before sending in a different drone to open up the other stuff, no need to risk the cure to our problems by keeping it stored next to obvious incendiaries and potentially other harmful traps.

>>15953623
>On one hand, we could learn about it and then disable the security protocols in her head, freeing her up to be who she wants to be, and making her infinitely more useful to us.

Who's to say that she'd be more useful to us? We know nothing of what those protocols keep hidden away. We have no way of knowing what shutting those down could do to her personality. We don't even know who she was before Intelligence fucked with her head.

Problem is that we don't know what exactly will make that bomb go off? Accessing the wrong thing? Accessing anything at all without doing X first?

>>15953498
Why so serious? U mad?

Man, the whole advice-harbinger is to be taken ironic, at least that's how I took it, and as such, I laughed. What's wrong with that?

Also note that I did not advocate a timeskip (but other things, such as opening the vault in the meantime).

Really though, why you so serious?

The reason she left is because she's supposed to protect any intelligence secrets.

Us going to read it activated her like muscle memory.

That's why she left the room.

If anything, send a communique to her saying, "Take your time Kateryina. I'm just going to spend some time in this office. Don't worry, I won't go through these files while you're gone. Wink wink."

Delicious files, you must read them.

>>15953613
This order seems good enough, less chance of blowing up anything too important.

>>15953688
> If anything, send a communique to her saying, "Take your time Kateryina. I'm just going to spend some time in this office. Don't worry, I won't go through these files while you're gone. Wink wink."

Or just don't say anything. Saying anything about that at this point might force her to come back in and try to stop us. So let's just get the SCION terminant and access the research notes to see how the hell to use this thing.

>>15953649
Ah, I see now.

Well, we've only got the anti-aging terminant, so we should isolate a sample of NAMTAR, hit it with the terminant, and then start testing our various treatments. Maybe one of them will work.

If not: Examine security footage/records/whatever to see if we can determine which people in the cryo-pods AREN'T infected. We should apply the terminant to the room and sterilize the area, making it safe to open the pods whos' occupants are clean. We can then evac them for questioning.

>>15953706
Might as well read up on the others as well.

>>15953688
>The reason she left is because she's supposed to protect any intelligence secrets.

What if we agreed to delete our memory of this stuff after after we used it to save our people. Think she'd still have a problem or might that actually allow her to help?

Can we even do something like deleting our own memory?

I think our immediate priority should be investigating that terminant, and if possible, replicating it.
Check any files related to it, and see how much we need to kill what amount of Scion, and start in on getting the Namtar de-scioned.

I'm assuming we'll have time to look at other encoded information while our trained staff looks at the chemistry side of things.
After the priority of dealing with Scion + Namtar's abomination love-child, I would like to look into the Angel project.
While research is going on, let's have someone (possibly Ivanova) gather together a microscope (there has to be one somewhere around here!), a small sample of liquid from a drink, and get a space set up to for testing the terminant after the research is done.

I saw we open everything we have access to. Examine it, ect. Hopefully there will be something about the spheroid in the notes.

Don't press the button until we know more.
Don't do anything to trigger the incendiaries.

>>15953684
Only the Principality clearance has the bombs on it. We can crack the rest safely.

That said: Are you using Deus Ex clearance style?

>>15953750
we should still move the PLOT! item to a safe distance before messing with anything else in the room.

doing it any other way is somewhat foolish since there really isn't a rush at this point in time, at least not a rush where 5 extra minutes will matter.

>>15953788
Fuck that, you "take time, all the time in the world, don't rush" idiots are what got us into this mess.

>>15953792
I agree, let's just "gently bump" that shit out of the way grab the vial and get the fuck out of here.

>>15953792

No, it was the people you shouted down other posters who got us into this mess. People had pointed out plenty of things, like the fact that we search this office, that we shouldn't leave the irradiated areas once exposed to NAMTAR, and that, hell, we really shouldn't have sent people down into this mess in the first place until we had a better idea of what NAMTAR could eat through and how fast. And they all got ignored and shouted down by people who were loud and impatient.

I'm a bit concerned about that black device with the button.

>>15953814
A million times, this.

>>15953816
It's probably something that sends the reactor into a meltdown.

>>15953814
First "you" should be "who."

>>15953816
Probably a pocket singularity bomb. Base self destruct. Probably one of several such options scattered through the base.

After searching the databanks one entry stands out, namely due to it's date.

Several hundred years after the lockdown had been initiated sensors catch what appears to be several figures in comically bulky red power armor. After watching several crates of weapons and supplies sift by, you see one large tank with NAMTAR decontaminent plastered on the side in large white script being drug out by these mysterious looters.

>>15953823
If it were, it'd be a nice way to end things once we leave this place. Keep this shit from spreading. All it would take is one ship to come here, for one person to come inside, get some Namtar on his suit, get back in his ship, set some coordinates. Then boom, this shit is set to spread across the stars.

No matter what, we need to completely destroy this place when we leave. I mean completely.

>>15953823
No, you're wrong.

The device clearly turns the star this planet orbits into a super-massive black hole. You can tell because the device is black.

>>15953814
>>15953820
I agree, smileyguy was the one riding the proposal of sending down people and drones, if I recall - and many, me among them in later stages, supported him, not expecting a superdupervirus that survived 64k years in ultraradiation.

I stand by that, but I also agree that rushing things is not the way to go. I say, we send Ivanova a little reminder, or a small message, "are you sure you know what to do to get the team back up?" or something like that, a little reassurance, a little bit of a reminder to keep her in line to us as well.

>>15953856
Ah, but this base is probably powered by a singularity. Which could easily be triggered to go unstable and devour the entire complex, just like one of our warheads.

>>15953816
>>15953823
>>15953840
>>15953856
Okay, so it's something really bad that we don't want to use right now. Moving on.

>>15953860
You also shouted down the people who were concerned about Erella's glove. And leaving the irradiated area. You were quick to condemn going over "minor details" then. And look what happened.

>>15953687
Why am i so serious?!?!?!? Because i ENJOY this quest. Vedibere is an excellent quest writer and its faggots like you that are fucking this whole thing to hell, and i would enjoy us not being killed or the quest falling apart because of idiots like you. Call me LAWLSRSBISSNISS or whatever, i dont give a shit.

>>15953875
ah, not entirely true, but I am willing to take the blame for Es death, if that will set your mind to peace.

I usually do not shout people down, you have to agree. I make proposals, or support proposals, and keep a tally of what the general opinion is.

I care more for the writefaggotry, than for the actual outcome of the quest, a tragic story can still be a good one, in my opinion.

>>15953883
I love you man. Our kind, we've got to stick together in this. Cooler heads can prevail.

>>15953890
> I usually do not shout people down, you have to agree. I make proposals, or support proposals, and keep a tally of what the general opinion is.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15916825/#15918802

You did in fact try to shout down people who were rightfully concerned about Erella's glove.

>>15953890
> I care more for the writefaggotry, than for the actual outcome of the quest, a tragic story can still be a good one, in my opinion.

And that justifies trying to make it tragic? When others might not want it to turn out that way?

>>15953890
>Being led on by VB for a month wanting to find out wtf happened to humanity.
>Really enjoy setting and character interaction.
>Waiting on the thread where we finally get to Sol.
>Have a singularities fall end instead.

Yeah, fuck no.

Also autosage thread is autosage.

>>15953905
I concede the point, you are correct.

>>15953913
Vedibere's better than that.

I too wouldn't mind losing everything, but finally crawling home on a flashdrive taped to a rocket engine only to read a data stream about what happened in the final moments as we use up the last of our energy reserves floating over the bits of dust and debris that was once our solar system.

So, what? Sentinels are Intel bases then?
Or is that just what they call anything with a few functioning guns left on it?

>>15953956
Anything that still shoots.

>>15953931
Yeah, even if we fail, a poetically tragic ending would be nice. Everyone's dead. We're low on power. Our hull is torn to hell. We limp on sublight travel for eons, heading straight for Sol, trying to find out anything. And when we get there it's gone. Enveloped by the sun going supernova, ages before we arrived. We're the last man in the universe. We have no mouth, and we must scream.

>>15953956
The sentinels were probably the defense batteries.

sen·ti·nel/ˈsentn-əl/
Noun: A soldier or guard whose job is to stand and keep watch.
Verb: Station a soldier or guard by (a place) to keep watch.

>>15953975
It was a capital letter affair, I dunno guess I just expected more.

DId anyone archive this?

>>15954001
Whoever does, I hope it isn't the person who misarchives them as VoidQuest 7-2, or just Voidquest with no number.

>>15954001
Someone should archive this before the idiot who fucked up the last few times does. Honestly, people seem incapable of getting both the title and tags right.

>>15953993
To the uber primitive Xenos these guns are better than anything else that they have ever seen.

>>15954015
Those guns couldn't even dent our tank. Those xenos fucking suck.

We should put them out of their misery.

>>15954012
#16 was probably the most annoying. No number, and no "Void Quest" tag. Apparently the genocide crowd cannot into archive.

>>15954030
That really grinds my gears.

Uh, guys? Was there a course of action chosen?

>>15954042
Duplicate SCION killer, disinfect base and our guys. TOP PRIORITY!

>>15954042
Who gives a shit?

What are we arguing about right now?

>>15954042
I hope so.

Vedibere, are you writing? Waiting on us?

>>15954042
I think the general consensus is on reading the research notes, specifically looking for instructions on how to deploy the SCION terminant.

>>15954042
Yeah. Investigate the non-rigged files, find a way to disarm the bombs, and the following:

Use the terminant to make the pod room safe again. Then we can open the pods of the uninfected.

Nobody is correct all the time.

Sometimes we should speed things up.
Sometimes we should be concerned about minor details.

Sometimes, we're going to pick the wrong one. It happens.

>>15954072
The important bit is we don't GETMAD at each other over such things.

>>15954076
Agreed

>>15954076
It's hard not to get mad at someone when you think they're doing things wrong and you know that you'll be stuck with the mess.

>>15954072
>>15954076
>>15954080
Oi quit that shit, this is VQ if I don't get to yell at someone my head is going to explode. This being reasonable shit has no fucking place here!

Where is Parson? Get that smug cunt down here!

>>15954070
We don't actually know if there are any uninfected. They could all be infected, just in different stages. And more importantly, we need to figure out how to use the SCION terminant properly and how to make more of it before we try anything with it.

>>15954111
And our crew is and will always be top priority.

>>15954131
Nah man, after we make more test it out on some of those screwed scientists first, make sure it doesn't just make things worse.

>>15954155
No, that's ridiculous. Thawing out someone just to watch them die as an experiment? We're still human, damn it!

We can just test it on the blood and stew on the top levels.

How are we gonna make more anyway?

>>15954176
I dunno, just put it in the replicator.

>>15954182
This isn't Star Trek you know.

>>15954194
So, just put it in the still.

And await some strange mutation becuase of it. Now all the people drinking from that still will be effected by some science fuckery that instead of being anti aging, it instead makes them younger. And female. Suddenly our spaceship is full of space lolis. Drunken space lolis.

The galaxy will never know what hit it.

You turn back to the secret compartment, dropping the lead once again. One by one you click open the four not rigged to detonate, leaving the cryofrozen compartment shut until you need to retrieve the tiny vial. Instead you go for the research notes folder, a quick browse giving you the most interesting points:

>Project SCION Date: 0
Project guidelines delivered. Average non-cyb life expectancy of current public gene mods @ 1000, private 2200. Directive plans to improve by 50%. Optimistic, likely only 30% to 40%. Additional measures requested as per -REDACTED- as well.

>Project SCION Date: 67
Reciprocal analysis of fundamental constituents remains elusive, but success has been achieved in the areas of semi-autonomous molecular reconstitution and selective bonding. Should allow for bonding with any alien or human subject.

>Project SCION Date: 93
Additional measures implemented. Deterioration from radiation, heat, disease, and unrestricted chemical attack eliminated. Researchers found small deficiency in protein structure during work, took steps to obfuscate as per -REDACTED-.

>Project SCION Date: 143
Project directives progressing. -REDACTED- progressing in parallel.

>Project SCION Date: 212
Unexpected levels of longevity achieved in smaller celled creatures. Projection estimates approach infinity @ 1. Team B assigned to curtail tendency in addition to primary objective.

>Project SCION Date: 285
Final stages. Unharmed by any level of radiation, hostile chemical reaction, or vacuum. Compliance with -REDACTED- also met. -REDACTED- assessed Longevity side-effects not yet addressed but not required for testing. Beginning tests in Project Lab 2. Vial of -REDACTED- constituted by Team B as per specifications of -REDACTED-. Vial stored in office.

Along with the dated notes are several test logs and charts showing a marked improvement in longevity with the new vaccine and trial data showing it overriding existing gene-mods for longevity seamlessly.

Hmmm.

You turn to the final clear case and give it a measuring appraisal. The leads on the bomb around it connect directly to the link-jack, making the implications obvious. But you’ve seen no reference to the “terminant” at all, nor any sort of application instructions or dosage. At least, not in the form of anything but that damn -REDACTED-.

>wat do?

>>15954218
Fucking black-ops assholes. Ugh so all of the info we need is REDACTED to hell and back eh?
There has to be more on this stuff somewhere that doesnt have bombs on it.

>>15954218
Check the Namtar files.

>>15954218
Perhaps we should examine the jewelry and pictures first?
It will only take a few minutes, and it might provide information concerning the key if we decide to hack the lock protecting the Principality files.

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>>15954334

I love this writing style, tone, setting, and characterization but man decision by committee, when at least some members of said committee are idiots and/or trolls, with harsh results can be a bummer.