You still have a little hangover from the last night. Still you shrug it off easly and get to work. Your advisor reports to you...

-Coal shoartage prevents from forging new gear for chosens and swordsmen. Also cant advance forging without them and also most forges arent working.

-Prisoners dont make any troubles still the fact remains. You have to decide what to do with them?

-Lukas is nowhere to be found.

-Your advisor reminds you, you havent picked a wife yet.

>>16989599
> Prisoners dont make any troubles still the fact remains. You have to decide what to do with them?

Kill them. Waste of space and resources.

>>16989599
I've missed the last few threads. Did anything important happen, aside from winning the battle?

>>16989612

Give me a second. İ will post previous threads and an overwiew.

Previous threads.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16857518/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16859102/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16869061/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16882132/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16906033/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16947528/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16970602/

>>16989599
>-Coal shoartage
Do we know how to produce charcoal?

>-Prisoners dont make any troubles still the fact remains. You have to decide what to do with them?
Is there some exhausting work we can put them to? Nothing dangerous or unhealthy, just keeping them busy so they don't get any wrong ideas. Treat them well.
Make it clear to them that they're free to go home once the war is over.

>Your advisor reminds you, you havent picked a wife yet.
Let's just get this over with and ask the girl with the mask for a date. See if she's waifu material etc.

Overwiew.

-İnterrogated prisoners. Learned the knight who we captured is a hero.
-Had chat with him. He told us what he knew.
-Then we proceeded to feast where Cyrillia kinda tried to confess something but couldnt.

Also... COAL SHORTAGE!

>>16989628

-We suspect there are some coal mines, deeper into the windy mountains.

-Well we can use prisoners as workers.

-Date? Well need something detailed i guess.

>>16989639
>COAL SHORTAGE!

Aren't Cyrillia's people fire mages? Ask her if she has an idea how to solve that problem.

>>16989652
Charcoal is produced from wood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charcoal

>>16989652
>-Date? Well need something detailed i guess.

Well, what is the usual procedure in the Corvus Tribe when it come to courtship?

>>16989665

Hmmm. İ learned a new thing, thanks anon.

So we can produce charcoal but it wouldnt be enough at this state, still we can build a forestry upgrade and convert some of our wood income into coal.

Map of our borders.

Diplomacy

Aville= At war
Ilythia=Hostile
Quiran=Allies
Psyrim tribe Pyros=Allies
Priestking=neutral

>>16989713
I'd guess a little bit of coal is better than no coal at all.

>>16989713
It's not that much effort to make charcoal. Better to get on with that while scouting out potential coal seams than let the forges sit idle

>>16989788
>>16989794

You order forestries upgrade to be built, allowing you to convert some wood income into charcoal. This upgrade can be added to lumbermills.

So at the time buing only in woodshill this ugrade can be built. İt will take 1 week.

>>16989682

İt differs really. İts goes along the line when one man wants the woman and woman wants the man... You know the rest. Other than that northsmen are very loyal to their mates despite their frequent use of slave womans.

rolled 64 = 64

>>16989628
no. NO WAIFU FOR US!

and i supose its time to start raiding the shit out of Aville. i mean terror raids.

>>16989813
More labour is going to be needed to gather enough timber for construction and coalmaking. Can the prisoners be used in the sawmills to free up more men from the menial tasks?

>>16989844
'kay, so what does Cyrillia like to do in her spare time? She's been living in our city for a few weeks (months) by now, so we should have some idea.
Wouldn't want to invite her to a hunting trip, just to find out she's a vegetarianm - or something.

So before i advance this any last minute orders?

>>16989874

Yes they can be used. Though overdoing it will cause them to despise you.

>>16989882
I remember you saying that we will get Coal trade as soon as our port opens. Does this still stand?

For the record. I am against using forced labour on the prisoners.
I mean, putting them in inhuman conditions.
Having them work but be cared for ans human beings, that I can accept.

>>16989895

We still lack a port.

rolled 43 = 43

>>16989628
ok. terror raids and a barrage of diplomats aimed at llythia.
i think we have isolate them. them drive all thoughts of war from them, either destroy them or make peace asap. no half measures.

>>16989895
Just get them doing the jobs that are being done by free men that don't require much specialist skill. Hauling, digging, stuff like that. Treat them like any other workers, just watch them. If they behave, give them better rations and maybe they can be given more responsibility. If they refuse, no extra rations, no extra freedoms. We want to win them over, but they are still prisoners

Okay then advancing. Any last orders?

- We don't know what to do with prisoners
- We need more iron

Make prisoners work in iron mine. Everyone wins

>>16989933
Yeah, I think that would be good.

They would also need some acceptable place to sleep though.
Perhaps build them a bunkhouse?

Nothing too luxurious but still humane.

Also, we should keep watching them and their disposition just in case.

>>16989941
DON'T FORGET ABOUT THAT BERSERKER POTION!
You said we could develop it in two weeks!

Can we speed up the construction of the port?

Did we recover all the equipment from the battlefield. Did our warriors get proper burials?

Also, increase border patrols.

>>16989952

We cant speed up ports construction as we cant start its contruction yet.

Yes we gathered all our dead an give them proper burials.

İ remember berserker potion and bear cavalary too.

Anything else?

>>16989952
A bunkhouse would be a good idea. When they are working, allow them to make their own improvements to it if they wish. Perhaps even allow them to build their own place of worship

>>16989966
We can't start its construction?

I was sure we had started it already.

Oh damn, make sure to prioritize its construction then.

rolled 54 = 54

i still think atop of building we need to derive our emeny of their fighting spirit. make the war into a lose lose situation for them.

risky but it could pay off. im up for ideas

and i suppose we keep blackheart near us at all times. allies close enemies closer and so forth. so he can see what we are like. blah blah blah.

---------------------------1 weeks later

Stone querry : +3 stone
Lumbermills:+4 timber
Farms: +5 food
Animals: +5 food +5 fur and pelt +2 warhorses.
İron mine: +1 iron
Forestry: +1 charcoal -3 timber


Stone: 9(stone querry)
İron (high quality) : 5( iron mine.)
Wood: 7 (lumbermills)
Food: 23 (farming+herding)

Food consumption: 7 per week

Reports

-Berserker potion is near perfection but needs at least one more test to be sure. Your alchemists ask you if you really want to use that.

-Forestry is finished and now running. Our forges can start working again.

-We can now train 200 swordsmen or 100 more raiders.

-We can train 100 archers apart from swordsmen or raiders.

-Tamers you have tasked with taming bears are making great progress. Though you cant use them as mounts for the time being now you can actually train some warbears.

>>16990028
>-Berserker potion is near perfection but needs at least one more test to be sure. Your alchemists ask you if you really want to use that.

Hell yeah we want to use them.
Though it should be tested diligently and not hurried. If that means we need to wait a bit more, then so be it.

>-Tamers you have tasked with taming bears are making great progress. Though you cant use them as mounts for the time being now you can actually train some warbears.
Sweet!

Train swordsmen.


What's the word from the borders?
How are the prisoners doing?

Anything else interesting happening?

Get some archers trained. When they are ready, they should be assigned to scout the borders, looking for weak spots in the enemy defences, and in ours

rolled 74 = 74

>>16990028
Train bears. and swordsmen. increase border surveilance so nothing gets into our land without us knowing its coming.

get our trade up and running.

sorta wondering with the bears, would it be a good ace card to keep up our sleeve.. you know a ace in the hole as well as the berserker potion. keep them hidden until we need them

>>16990073
...I'm wondering about the possibilities of giving bears the berserker potion. If they are being kept as a secret weapon, better make them extra deadly

>>16990045

Aville tries to raise another army and preparaing themselves for an attack. Word from Ilythia says that 3000 auxillary reserve are sent to bolster aville and will arrive there in a month.

Prisoners are doing great. Actually they started to think being prisoner is not that bad. Though Joan is still pissed that you didnt let her take Blackhand as a slave.

No word from Pyros.

rolled 56 = 56

>>16990120
ok. soo.. they expect us to attack them.
lets not attack them. keep a strong defence.
do the unexpected. send a diplomat

should alter their perspective of us being barbarians or at least make them do a double take.

>>16990090
Oh, right, we should speak with Joan.

Let her understand that we have a plan with that prisoner and if all goes well then perhaps we will be able to turn this situation to our advantage.

Also, to pacify her, we should give her some kind of a reward.

.... I'll be going out now, will other anons be able to give good dialogue for her... or maybe OP will go through it on auto-pilot?

>>16990158
I am afraid they will kill our diplomat.
On the other hand, we can negotiate ransom for the prisoners

>Prisoners are doing great. Actually they started to think being prisoner is not that bad.
This is good. Keep treating them right.
Did we build the bunkhouse yet?

Training of 200 swordsmen and 100 archers started.

İt will take 1 iron, 1 coal and 1 wood.

Stone walls are finished. Now RavenHolm is surrounded by stonewalls.

Raven Hold
On going construction none
Stone walls
Great warriors hall
Great warriors hall
Apothecarion
Halls of knowledge
Spirit lodge
Hall of alchemy
Great forge
Stonemason
Carpenter
Basic farms
Market Place
Stone roads

Windfall
On going construction none
Warriors hold
Basic farms
Smithy
Carpenter
Stone roads
Archery range
Stables

Woodhill
On going construction none
Lumbermills
Carpenter with forestry
Mustering hall
Smithy
Stone roads
Garden of Peace

rolled 56 = 56

>>16990164
honestly i dont think they will kill the diplomat.
we have the upper hand, routed their army and have them calling for aid from big protector... so i think my would at least hear out the diplomat.

dont just ask for peace as for terms that favour us, so then they can barter that to a white peace. worst comes to worst they kill the diplomat in which case ITS ON

>>16990202
We should ask for heavy reparations if we sue for peace.

Well

-Alchemists wait orders from you to test the potion on berserkers.

-Also you are expected to fill the ranks of chosen. Chosen took some beating in previous battle and had some casualities. Same with berserkers.

-Also you wood income is low.

Also, am I the only one who think we should work slowly towards abolishing slavery?
Nothing drastic, some small reforms over few years so that there is a minimal drawback.

And if we ever do get around abolishing slavery and slave0trade altogether, we should inform the foreign traders well in advance (like 6 months) so that it doesn't come as a surprise to them.

Anyway, this is a long-term goal, nothing to be hurried about.

>>16990219
>-Also you are expected to fill the ranks of chosen. Chosen took some beating in previous battle and had some casualities. Same with berserkers.

How are we supposed to do so?
I thought the best warriors would fill those ranks automatically.

>-Alchemists wait orders from you to test the potion on berserkers.
Let them develop the potion a bit more till they are sure there cannot be made any more advances without testing it on live human subject.

rolled 94 = 94

>>16990219
increase lumber production, hold trials of combat to fill the chosen's ranks maybe even buff it over 100%
ask for volunteers to try potion on.

maybe get some prisoners to cut lumber. with an appropiate guard detail.

or go all in try berserk potion on yourself!
infallible. also send the diplomat.

ask for a volenteer. also with the pretext to trade prisoners, tribute etc

>>16990240
To be honest, slaves would probably be a real asset to the tribe right now. We need a lot of labour to free up potential fighting men for the borders

>>16990257

Lumbermill upgrade would increase our resource input. İt will take 1 weeks to upgrade.

You tell Bjorn to hold trials to recruit others into Chosen ranks.

You ask for volunteers to try the potion. All of the berserkers volunteer.

>>16990257

You also send a diplomat to hold a negotiation with Aville. You expect him to return in 1 week.

Anything else to orde rbefore advance?

rolled 36 = 36

>>16990332
maybe build trading posts in all the towns, and or infalstructure to support such.
and hows that dock coming along?

>>16990332
Send out prospectors to look for viable coal seams. We can't survive on charcoal forever

>>16990350
>>16990344

Windy mountains is our best choice but you know its.....

We need resources for dock. Until we get them.Not happening.

rolled 55 = 55

>>16990382
then get what we need for the docks happening!
not enough manpower? more slaves!
not enough resources? find them!
coveted by monsters? kill them!
found the resources? Take them!

>>16990404
Forget the docks, whats needed is coal. Without good metal weapons and tools, we aren't going anywhere. Trade can wait, set up an outpost in the windy mountains. It's going to be hard to find enough food up there, so we should probably improve our farms too

rolled 55 = 55

>>16990422
this man speaks sense

>>16990404

-----------------------------1 week later-----------------------------


Stone querry : +3 stone
Lumbermills:+4 timber
Farms: +5 food
Animals: +5 food +5 fur and pelt +2 warhorses.
İron mine: +1 iron
Forestry: +1 charcoal -3 timber


Stone: 12(stone querry)
İron (high quality) : 6( iron mine.)
Wood: 10 (lumbermills)
Food: 25 (farming+herding)
Charcoal: 2 coal

Food consumption: 7 per week

Reports

-Trials for new chosens ended. There are 60 worthy aspirants.
-Constructions finished. Also we can go for port now.
-Diplomat returned. Alone. He tells us that Aville tried kill them after accepting to negotiate with them. His bodyguards sacrificed themselves to let him escape.
-Forgeries up and running. Happy blacksmiths.
-You stop Bjorn before he plays a prank on berserkers.

Army

175 chosen=4 Chosen warbands
268 berkserker=6 Berseker Warbands
300 ranger=6 Ranger warbands.
380 swordsmen=8 Swordmen warband
145 raiders=3 Raiders warbands
100 archers=2 Archer warbands

rolled 11 = 11

>>16990461
they dare attack our diplomat?
Test berserk potion.
what was the story with the magic ore in the hills? progress on that?
speak to blackheart about his countrys attack of your fair and reasonable diplomat on prisoner exchange and a diplomatic resolution, and that its a shame you have been pushed into your current situation

get the port so we can have access to our allies. also let toll the bells of war

im not sure if im over eeacting but ill take any other suggestions

tell the prisoners their masters would rather attack the messenger than negotiate for their freedom

>>16990422
A port gets us coal

>>16990461
Start Building a port at once!

>Diplomacy
I think this gives perfect cause for war.

Send a diplomat (a woman diplomat) to Ilythia to try and convince them of the legitimacy of our war and to not reinforce Aville (I expect this of fail but it might slow them down).

Battle plan in a moment

rolled 55 = 55

>>16990538
i like the cut of your gib. do that
also.. we could always start raiding.. im just saying. nothing would frighten the peasents more aville more then raids, looting and some burning....

im just saying

>>16990509
>>16990523
>>16990538

-Can recruit 200 swordsmen.

-Also your blacksmiths also can upgrade your swordsmen with quality chaimails plus reinforced leather and reinforced kite shields.

-200 archer can be trained.

-You give order to test potion. Roll for random event.

-Your advisor reminds you that you havent picked a wife yet.

rolled 40 = 40

>>16990558
tell your advisor that if an appropiate woman is found i shall court her.

improve the armour and more armoured soldiers

rolled 68 = 68

>>16990558
Rollan

dont fail me

>>16990551
I think raids should focus on disrupting thier ability to control the borderlands. We can try and bring the peasents over to our side once we demonstrate the inability of their overlords to protect them

>>16990617

Your alchemist report you that test is a half success. İndeed potion boosted the savagery and strength of berserkers but after berserkers took it alchemist heard them start shouting.

-HORUS! İ AM COMİNG FOR YOU!
-DİE TRAİTOR!
-BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

And so on.

>>16990577

Your advisor prepares a list but intercepted by Bjorn and well... While Bjorn dealt with the list Lukas visits you. After some friendly chat he spills the beans.

-So you know, Cyrillia is young and she is single, not to mention she is kinda fond of you and you know all that stuff. So whydont you give her a chance?

>>16990538
175 chosen=4 Chosen war-bands
268 berserker=6 Berserker Warbands
300 ranger=6 Ranger warbands.
380 swordsmen=8 Swordsmen warband
145 raiders=3 Raiders warbands
100 archers=2 Archer warbands

Out of (above) I want to take:
100 Chosen
250 Rangers
350 Swordsmen
145 Riders

I'm not taking Berserker because I don't want to instill fear into the commoners (thus giving them a reason to fight). And the Archers are just too green.

I also want to bring prisoners that have shown to be willing to work with us (and Mr. knight). We should also talk to Mr. Knight if we are able to convince him to serve us we would be able to hold the land we conquer far more easily.

The way I want to do this fight is our Rider War-bands go about attacking Noble messengers and supply caravans (also they would be our scouts). We with the rest of our army pillaging and burning Noble manors one by one, freeing (or conquering) the towns and villages along the way.

rolled 22 = 22

>>16990664
continue the trials!

*eye ball him when he mentions the girl* go on.... (sorry no sleep catching up)

and i say START THE RAIDING! apparently with discression for "innocents"

and im gunna let someone else do the whole waifu thing

See if any of the prisoners can be convinced to help target good spots to raid or sabotage. Mustering points, trade routes, bridges, military stockpiles. Destroy their ability to wage war on us!
We should carry off any war materiel we can, and destroy what we can't

can someone archive this. i gotta go

>>16990422
we will get coal from the trade with caliphate
that's why we need the docks!

>>16990664
continue developing the potion

>>16990756
It doesn't feel right to rely on an outsider for such a vital resource. We should be self sufficient as much as possible

>>16990558
Right wonder full. In that case we should take:

100 Chosen
300 Rangers
450 Swordsmen (70 of the new Swords men)
145 Riders

Have the new archers and Swordsmen say at home and train (especially archers into rangers)

And Armor is always good (though it might slow us down).

>>16990697
I want to convince the Avillen commoners to join with us. Raiding them dose not help us (but go crazy on those nobles).

>>16990776
Cannot argue with that but at this moment we cannot secure our own supply of coal so why not trade with our allies?

Besides, it will bolster trade and make us richer in process

>>16990751
I got to go to.

>>16990780
>I want to convince the Avillen commoners to join with us. Raiding them dose not help us (but go crazy on those nobles).

you know what we should do?
Over the span of a month, we should regularly have dialogue with Sir Blackhand. Befriend him, have discussions on all sort of things, etc etc.
Make him respect us like no other.

I am not sure how this will play out but if we ever release the prisoners, we will have someone on our side from Aville.

I agree that we shouldn't make any raids. That will only work against us.

>>16990800
Whats wrong with the Windy mountains? We should look at exploiting whatever resources that we can from them

>>16990821
Don't raid the villages. But raid the taxmen, the sentry outposts and the roads. Show the peasants they're safer with us

>>16990828
We had deemed them dangerous on the account of them being haunted by some ghosts or some shit.

I think we are going to lose many men from our expedition if we send them there.

I think, we need some magic support to clear the place first.

>>16990846
Still.... we will provide a good Casus Belli for our enemies to continue the invasion.
As the things stand right now, we are the victim while the Aville is the aggressor.
And it is not like the Aville can turn these raids into propaganda tool, they can just say that we raided some villages somewhere and slaughtered everyone, raped their women, etc... And the peasants will believe them since there is no other information source. (Of course, they could be doing this even without our raids but at least now they would be lying completely as opposed to "deceiving the truth""

>>16990856
Ah, then it should wait. Lets just expand the lumber yards and iron mines we have

>>16990883
They don't seem to need any reasons so far. And by undermining their control on the borders, we reduce the chances of them actually pulling off an attack

>>16990908
Well, we are working towards inciting a civil war in Aville.

Anyway, I am not entirely against for raids either to tell you the truth. Just cautious.

>>16990886
Yep. Or we could ask for help from our friends from the woods.

Op, you here?

İ have returned.

-So we are now in for making friends with Blackhand.

-Also any decisions on waifu.

-We can also train war bears. 15 for now. Other than that we can make some constructions. Port will take 7 stone and 5 lumber and 2 full months.

How long 'til war bears become mountable?

>>16991187

-Tamers tell it they arent sure. No one tried this before and for all they know it could be impossible.

>>16991173
2 months!?

I am sure it was much lower in previous threads!
Like 3 weeks or something.

Anyway, train the warbears

>-Also any decisions on waifu.
Sigh.
Okay, spend more time with Cyrillia then

>>16991215
How do the tribe view inter-racial marriage? Will our children have less respect because their mother is not of our tribe?

>>16991173
Do some raiding on any military outposts along our border. See what can be done to clear out ghosts in the mountains. Send messengers to the villages closest to us in Aville, promising safety if they join us before all out war starts. If possible recruit any prisoners who seem genuinely happy with their circumstances to do this.

>>16991239

As long as child is worthy warrior. Worthy enough to lead tribe will respect him or her no matter what.

>>16991284

You want to neutralize any military outposts Aville may have at their borders. So how many soldiers we should mobilize than?

>>16991284
I would rather prefer that Aville gets change of rulership which is friendly towards us than trying to incorporate those lands into ours.

Bump.

>>16991491
Pretty sure we suggest everything that is to suggest.

>>16991360
The guy who suggested the raids should suggest the number of warriors. I for one, think we should better fortify our positions instead.

So will wait for your consensus.

>>16991564
Eh...

Let's go spend some time with Cyrillia.

I guess... send 2 raiders, 4 ranger, 3 swordsmen, 1 Berserker and 1 Chosen for the raid.... I guess?

And why is the port taking so long man?

rolled 56 = 56

>>16991564
Send scouts to locate and gather intel on the border outposts, specifically how many soldiers there are in each one. Station most of our army area surrounding Ravenhold.

I'm back

and will have a full plan soon

Back

I think we should attack in full force. As Ilythia is reenforcing Aville in a month I want Aville not to be any shape to capitalize on those reinforcements.

>>16991360
I would like to do my previous load out from >>16990685 and >>16990780
(reposted)
100 Chosen
300 Rangers
450 Swordsmen (70 of the new Swords men)
145 Riders

That said the plan as I imaged it is.
We would break up the army into:
Scouts - 3 Rider and 2 Ranger (mounted)* war-bands
Main Body - All the Swordsmen (with chain-mail and shields) and 200 rangers
Elites- 100 Chosen (mounted)*
* We take horses to improve mobility and they dismount to fight
** The shields should be large enough to make a shield wall with

The scouts would ride ahead of the main body and do four things; scout enemy fortifications and forces, deposit rangers to set up trap and ambushes, kill Avilles messengers and supply caravans (if they can), and liberate (or conquer) villages or towns that are too small to be worth bringing the main body to.

The MainBody would move to the nearest city or threatening army conquers and move on.

The Elites will be our reserve. We call them in if the scouts are having trouble taking a town or we need a some extra help for the main body.


When we take a town or village and if we have a prisoner form that town or village I we should return that prisoner as a act of good will to the people.

>>16990821
If we can convince blackhand we should install him as a new king of Aville.

>>16992140
>>16992297

OP is gone again it seems :(

>>16992370
Damn

At least it's a good plan. Though now I see it's a bit agressive.

Back again. Damn net.

>>16992297

So will you give command to another or lead this group yourself? Who will take the command in your absence if you decide to lead this group yourself.

>>16992497
I had assumed that we would be with the Chosen and we would go back a fourth to where even the fighting is the thickest (hopefully we can catch all the big battles).
The leader of the rangers would lead the scouts. (lukas was it)
The leader of the Swordsmen would lead the main-body. (a K something)
Bjorn and the adviser (the one who wants us to marry) would manage the home front.

>>16992543
>>16992297
>>16991284

You give out orders for mobilization. As preparations start a Chosen comes and tells you that Blackheart wishes to see you.

>>16992590
> As preparations start a Chosen comes and tells you that Blackheart wishes to see you.

Interrogate him and ask what he's done to Blackhand.

>>16992590
let's talk to him, but only a moment we are a busy war-leader.

>>16992590
Lets see Blackhand then

Sorry I've been gone so long guys. Exams and 4chan hacking have ruined everything for me.

I need to catch up. Is everything on suptg?

>Still not married

WTF guys?

Actually, I should have expected that by now.

I think Advisor Anon's internet cut out.

>>16993065
Damn

>>16993065
hopefully he'll be able to reconnect in time

>>16993063
and yeah we pretty much archived everything up to this point