Sountrack needed in order to enjoy this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhoCf7Kq8Bc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W37gzabRDcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYWO84GUIg8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_g8NZr1tA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk
and anything else you find to be epic,

Listening is mandatory. Failure is punished by death, Not having earphones is not an excuse.

>>17596296

>>17596319

Wouldn't just free the planet from the clutches of the "Heretical Traitor" be a better option than killing the entire country?

>>17596363
Politically it would be. However look at the positive side - now you got some ruthless reputation and maybe enemies will think twice before dealing with you. still, it's interesting what HLoT will have to say.

Game begins

>>17596411
You are on the bridge of your flagship Eternity. Recent battle left it lightly damaged and a some repairs wouldn't hurt. At the same time you could salvage some of the wrecked enemy ships[list required?]. Also one third of your forces went missing almost four months ago. You've proved, that Rising Sons are made of metal, but even metal bends and breaks, if put under too much strain. What will be your next orders?

>>17596465
Dead ships in Heidrun's orbit.

>still, it's interesting what HLoT will have to say.
Hopefully they keep their usual genocide-positive stance.

>>17596483
On that subject, make a general announcement sector wide that we reserve salvage rights to all ships crippled by our fleet, and that looters will be destroyed.

>>17596483
i almost forgot, sub-sector map.

>>17596507
Nevertheless, it was a tithe paying world under protection from a RT. Protocol would require some kind of AAR and justification for HLoT, but you are not required to do it, this way you have more independance.
>>17596518
Kassandra just verified, that your ship left a beacon in this system informing any incoming ships of your rights to loot enemy vessels.

>>17596553
required - in a formal sense
not required - in a practical sense

Lets tell them about the heresy. And admit that we may have been over zealous. That should blunt their anger (hopefully).

Plan forward should be:
(coming in next post)

A'ight, we need to help with Tyr's "purge," but only in preventing needless slaughter of loyalists. Any chaos or splinter groups should be brutal examples.

New feature - Lexicanum - your chapter library that holds all the information you acquired. You may request articles from it any time.

>>17596677
Currently you have 50 strong marine force on the ground commanded by Captain Cessarius. He is trying to gather up all loyalists he can to a single marine-controlled city. However their efforts are similar to those of UN in Rwanda - 50 marines can hardly control over 20 million murderous soldiers, who harboured hatred for Heidrun since the day they were born. loyalists and heretics are getting slaughtered in hundreds of thousands, a Tyr soldier who doesn't wear at least three Heidrunian tongues is considered to be a weakling.
>>17596614
Do you send any evidence of Moriarty's heresy or of Heidrunian heresy? or you just state the fact that this sub-sector is yours now and you are doing here whatever you want?

1 What to do on Tyr
-A Establish a seat of power on tyr (should not be to hard as they like us for taking out The RT) of some kind.
--b Use that power to stop the killing and abuse by the governor (it's a wast of people) but taking on no big risks.

2 What to do on that H planet
-A get some one to establish order as soon as possible.
--b They must be harsh but fair and willing to punish Tyr's army as well as Planet H's people and able to keep control while doing so. (likely a space marien)
-B Identify factions
--b Find/Groom a successor to Mr Law and Order. Who will take over once the situation is calmed down enough.

3 The lost company
-A nothing we can do right now.
--b If/when they do get in contact have them start looking for that Ice world.

4 The survey of the rest of the planets.
-A have second company continue that job.

5 What do we do with First company
-A have it stationed on planet H to help keep order and punish Tyr's guard if they get out of line.

6 What do we do with Honor Guard
-A We keep them free so when shit happens we have some thing to call on.


This is my plan any other thoughts

>>17596794
wow, i will read this in a sec.

>>17596733
Heidrunian heresy and it might be good to request Inquisition help in how to stamp out heresy with out causing a debacle like we did.

>>17596685
I was also hoping that we might a more discipline/law and order faction in Tyr's army to empower.

>>17596863
>might find a more discipline/law and order faction
Fixed

>>17596794
>>17596794

>>17596976
Factions:
Tyr= Konorr's Militarists, Anti-Konorr Separatists, Anti-Konorr Ice God Fanatics

Heidrun= Occupation Force, Heidrun partisans, Chaos cults

In Heidrun to establish order your best bet would be to somwhow reign Tyran troops, because chaos is chaos and partisans are mostly former drug addicts who bear a grudge against Imperium for slaughtering them for no reason. they will negotiate only when last Tyran leaves or dies.

>>17596976
"Commander, send two squadrons of Marines along with half our tech marines to being preliminary establishment of a permanent base on Tyr, somewhere near but outside of the city so as not to draw the ire of the Governor until we can deal with him. Then send a message to the occupation force on Heidrun and tell them that while they are not to discipline the Tyran troops, enforce that you will be keeping a very close eye on their actions and insist on regular field updates from their commanders. We are not to harm the loyal citizens of the Imperium. Do as you wish to any confirmed cultists.

Continue to monitor transmissions through the warp storm and see if we can establish coms with out lost squad. Have the rest of the tech marines begin repairs to Eternity, and then the rest of the fleet as they are able"

I suggest we follow Cessarius advice and deploy our forces in greater numbers to the planet's surface, ever vigilant for heresy. At minimum, half the forces in orbit should drop and assist in saving LOYALIST civilians, supported by Battle Barge Eternity. The Chaos civilians can go die in a fire.

We should not punish Tyr's troops unless they open fire upon or otherwise harm our forces, thus committing HERESY.

We should call the High Lords for a cadre of Chaplains, or maybe some Inquisitors, because the heresy rating of the chapter is really rather worrying, and the heresy level of the subsector is appalling.

Oh, and we should find an emmissary with the same voice as pic related to broadcast all our decrees. No one is going to question that terrifying fucking voice.

>>17596976
Punish any further crimes and such things unbecoming warriors of the emperor such as: trophy taking, unnecessary cruelty, and slave taking.

Send 150 marines to keep what order they can and start trying to get sanctioned control of Tyr (if not complete control then at least some) of we must play up the religion angle.

For Number One I ment get a Postion of power in the government not a base.

>>17596976
We should also send a message to the religion guys (I forget their name) asking about how bring a population back to the light of the god emperor with out killing all of them.

>>17597143
I don't want to pick this planet as the base of our monastery yet, but if your just planing something like a embassy then I support it.

>>17597027
Sup Op, glad to see this thread is back so soon.

I have an idea for dealing with these oppressive soldiers.

Tell them that they will never be allowed to return to their home planet for fear of chaos taint, unless they pacify the chaos on the planet, and leave the indigenous in peace. The longer this takes, the longer they will have to be kept away.

For every mass grave found numbering 100, the time will be increased by 5 years for rebuilding. For every town burnt down a further 5 years. For every city, a further 25 years to ALL guardsmen.

I'd like to see if everyones in favour of this plan. It does reek of manipulation...

>>17597143
Scipius nods to your order and sharply answers:
' It will be done, my lord.'
However as you turn to leave, he continues:
'Master, do you remember Omiron, that sergeant who was accused of witchcraft? I isolated him, just as you said, but it's been a few months and men are starting to mutter that he deserves a fair trial. I've spoken with the man, he seems to be sane and devout. Despite that, nothing can explain why he took that idol from the temple in Tyrs mountains. what should we do?'

[30 marines + 10 techpriests sent to Tyr]

>>17597207
Looking into it would be the more general idea. Seeing what resources might be immoderately useful to us and to keep an eye on the Governor, who has already been established as a corrupt tyrant (thought not outright heretical).

>>17597237
"Simple brother. Have the Chapter Librarians scan him for the taint of chaos. If they judge him pure, he is free to rejoin his brethren."

>>17597237
>>17597277
"And when they are finished, send him to me. I wish to question him myself; to see if his faith is still strong. And if he is still loyal to his oaths and to the Emperor."

>>17597237
Good point. Impress upon the sergeant that we are acting so harshly because we have no way to detect chaos taint and once we get some one who is experienced is such matters you will be evaluated and released.

Also we should make that rule: No looting or trophy taking unless the loot will further the war effort.

>>17597277
'My lord... I am afraid that we have no Librarians in our chapter yet, However I am in favour of training some.' replies Scipius.
---
Your forces on Tyr start building Outpost-Fortress. This will cost 10 Wealth and take about a year with current forces, but it will be a small defensive point that can house a company, has a starport and defensive AA and ground systems. Is that what you want?

>>17597295
>>17597277
We got no Liberians or Chaplains that's the problem.
(I want to get some as soon as possible though)

>>17597340
No. Lets not commit more of our resources.

>>17597361
Last tread I think us panicked and spaced it.

>>17597361
We already spaced the artifact. I agree with >>17597341 though, we should get some Librarians sooner rather than later. In the mean time, Omiron will be questioned by the chapter master to personally see if he is of taint.

>>17597311
>>17597295
When you meet Omiron, you immediately remember the man. You trained together back in Luna. he is heavy-built even for space, but his eyes glow with savage intelligence.
'I understand you fears, Chapter Master. I can assure you that I am no heretic. That idol was nothing more than a token to remember the mission, believe me. However when I took it, i found something else. I didn't want to tell anyone else, but if you will let me, I will show you.'
He requests a completely private audience with you. Do you agree? Yes/No

>>17597373
Right Kiotan you did good.

Have sent the messages to the HLoT, The Inquisition, and priest people (still forgotten their name)

>>17597422
Yes but have some guards within shouting distance.

The deployment of 188 marines and 7 apothecaries to keep peace in a city of millions is a terrible tactical decision. Although there is something to be said for doing a job to the best of your abilities, in the light of the fact that we caused this destabilisation of Heidrun it is in total, foolhardy.

We must concentrate on finding that ice planet in exchange for the resources promised by the mechanicus. If we choose this planet as our own, and if it is suitable, then we have killed two birds with one stone. The resources will help us to fix this problem we have created.

>>17597439
And keep some distance from Omiron (and make sure there are no weapons about)

>>17597354
Kiotan just humorously answers that techmarines are so angry with your decision, that they started digging trenches and building earthworks. Do wish to recall them to your main force?

>>17597460
Personally, let's let them have a small outpost/recruiting office; something that keeps them busy and keeps the attention off our other objectives on Tyr. No need to recall them after we already sent them ther.

>>17597450
Loyalist refugee city swells to population 1 100 000. Locals call it Salvation, because for them it truly is so. From loyalists a new pro-Rising Sons faction start to form up.

Reputation gained:
Benevolent 5
Ruthless -1

Compromise Have them start laying plans and building a starter version of the base, with space to be expanded at a later date. Lets give them 2 wealth to start with. And commend them for there work ethic.

What do people think?

>>17597553
I agree with this. And let's see if we can encourage the newly growing Pro-Rising Suns faction at Salvation.

OP needs to add this to the "sountrack" list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VyG7BPtQ3o&feature=related

It is suitably epic.

>>17597516
Great. Start arming the pro-Rising Sons faction and have them start taking over patrolling and Anti-Heresy raids around salvation. If the comanders on the ground think the pro-Rising Sons faction can handle it.

>>17597516
Okay. This is going better than expected. Start using auxiliaries to suplement our forces on the search for more loyalists. These auxiliary forces will be lead and commanded by Space Marines.

We should also ask the High Lords to send us a detachment of Arbites to train the locals in keeping the peace, and a missionary group to spread the light of the Emperor to this hellish place.

>>17597450
btw, quest for ice planet is by Machus, Lord Segmentum Solar.
>>17597483
Do you start recruiting there? Konorr doesn't seem to mind.
>>17597453
>>17597439

When you close heavy chapel doors Omiron turns to you and colapses on a prayer bench.
'It is harder to hide it than you think my lord. I can feel and see things other people cannot. Yes, you've guessed it, I truly am a witch, i've started noticing it from the day we reached this cursed sector. I tried to ignore it and supress it, but it was tormenting me more and more. However I asked you for privacy not because i want to keep this secret, I will accept your decision whatever it might be. But before you decide, I want to warn you - that idol I took is a very powerful artifact. I felt it when I approached. I felt it because my witchery faded near it. That's why I took it. It is very old, older than Tyr itself. The man from whom I took it said, that it was brought from the Cold Plane and was created to protect against sorcery and evil. I thought it could save me from myself.'
Omiron looks down and falls silent.

>>17597160
>>17597601
How about (to save time) we ask the High Lords of Terra to send some Chaplains and Arbites to train us and then we train the rest of the planet.

If that seems unfeasible then just ask for some to bring control back to this planet.

>>17597595
Also lets keep some over sight on the auxiliaries we field. (don't want on heresy)

This thread is awesome.

>>17597646
Let's begin recruiting, casually.

As for Omiron..... shit shit shit.

>>17597646
YES! FINALLY! A PSYKER!

"You should have confessed sooner, brother. By concealing your psyker abilities, you have placed all of your brothers in danger, and yourself in jeopardy."

Now, CALL THE NEAREST CHAPTER. We need a Librarian from SOMEWHERE to begin training/purging/whatever poor brother Omiron.

Inb4 it's the Black Templars.

>>17597595
Good idea.

Have one marine leason attached to the militia as squad leader. They are to watch for promising recruits from these squads even though most will be re-formed into a guard regiment, and will not be encouraged to turn there back on their regiment.

Standard space marine squads are to be kept as heavy infantry.

By protecting these people we have decided their fate for years to come. Chaos will have seen this and grown envious and would visit cruelty upon the citizens of salvation the moment we leave. We must take full responsibility for the lives we save. Perhaps in future this city should be inducted to our realm. Perhaps we can recruit non-marine personnel here, and establish an outpost with there help in only a short few generations.

He is tainted. His weakness may bring destruction on us all. He cannot be trusted.

Purge the witch.

>>17597646
Damn... I was not expecting that.

Mr. Witch gets Liberian training to control the crazy.

And I guess we have to come clean about spacing it. Though it may still be in orbit (we should send some one to check).

>>17597728
He's our chapter's only Psyker. We have NO LIBRARIANS, or even CHAPLAINS. Do you really want to be Black Templars with katanas? Because that would just be silly.

>>17597744
And you would trust the future of your brotherhood to a brother too weak to trust his fellows? Who might be touched by the Warp?

Psykers are one thing, cowardly weaklings another.

>>17597737
I'm all for what >>17597695 suggested. I say we send a call out right now. in the interim, keep him under our personal watch.

>>17597761
It was wee who judged him too quickly, and sent him into solitary confinement for months on end. He is and will be (with the proper training) a valuable asset to this chapter.

I agree with these two.

>>17597744
>>17597737

But i think we should follow procedure and have him put on a black ship and taken to the telepathica for training. There is something to be said for a quality standard setting amongst psychers...

>>17597584
indeed it is. good taste, anon.
>>17597553
Tech-marine workaholics get to work immediately. -2 Wealth
>>17597595
>>17597601
Salvation officially nominated it's first leader - ex-penal legionnaire Dagner. He has a strong support from ex-Heidrun military, has harsh stance on cultists and Tyrans and cares for the people. Well, atleast his men managed to restore water supply and keep marauders away from Salvation premises. Population reaches 1.8million.

>>17597761
One who offered himself to the mercy of his superiors and sought to suppress his ability as a psyker for fear of the damage he would cause? He would be a good choice for the chapters first librarian, he can learn from his mistakes and pass his knowledge on to aspiring librarians.

If he goes all heresy on the chapter then we can just kill him when it happens. Librarians are too great an asset.

The bolt pistol is the correct answer.

>>17597805
Wow, Sanctuary is doing really well. Can we please phone up the Arbites or High Lords or something? We really need administratum and Admech support to pull off this operation, and I don't trust Tyr and their 20% Chaos worship.

Kassandra immediately releases emergency soulword...

'To all Chapters in vicinity of Sub-Sector Deus. We, Rising Sons, are in need of immediate assistance in form of Librarians, Chaplains and other men of will and knowledge. May Emperor blesses those who will answer us.'

>>17597831

Bolt pistol<Mind bullets

Captcha: Chaotic fmaays

this may be a sign.

>>17597818
All we know is that he wants the artifact. Not that it actually stopps psychers.

Too quick to trust, brother.

>>17597864
Then we keep him under close guard, put him in stasis if possible until another chapter with an available librarian or chaplain can asses the situation properly. We must not make a rash decision.

>>17597864
Aye, we needn't be trusting, but we can't just gun down brothers all willie nillie. This ain't the Paranoid Marines. The Chaplains and Librarians are on their way. I'm sure we'll be fine.

>Inb4 we're a Lamenters successor chapter...

>>17597805
Great, Lets see if we can't get him a "Governing for Dummies" book. Also what's his stance on us. Lastly lests see if we can start expanding the safe zone so that salvation can become self sustaining.


P.S. It might be a idea for us to have a heart to heart with this new leader.

>>17597646
"Rise Omiron, you bare no shame for keeping this from me. Indeed, you are to be commended for confessing this truth to me. I honor your trust and will keep is so."
>Chapter Master turns and walks off a few paces before continuing to speak

"Our chapter is in dire need of a Chaplin and Librarian. With your innate abilities, and with the propper training in the holy ways, I believe that you would become a great asset and benefit to this chapter.

>Chapter master turns and faces Omiron

"Would you rise to the challenge and accept the burden to become our Chapter Chaplin, upholding our honour and keep our chapter safe from the taint of Chaos?"

>>17597859
This is a Raising Suns operation and system. We may need extra help. But we should wither earn it, or gain it from coordination of the two planets we have now.

>Moriarty
>not talking about this gentleman.

>>17597859
Not chaos just separates.

>>17597906
"And for our next trick, let's try summoning daemons and giving praise to the Fallen Gods!"

>>17597898

>It might be a idea for us to have a heart to heart with this new leader.

Voteing for this. What is his vision, and how can the raising suns help and be included?

We already have a small plan to convert the city of salvation to a marine protectorate. For recruitment of vassals and other non-marines like captains. It is to form an imperial guard regiment.

>>17597935
"Oh dear sweet Emperor, what did I just say? OMIRON, I AM POSSESSED BY THE RUINOUS POWERS! BE MY MERCY ANGEL!"

>>17597861
In the following month Salvation grows at an amazing speed... All loyalist Heidrunians make haste to this oasis of peace in a sea of slaughter. Tyran commanders in return surround city with a double cordon and anybody who tries to pass is impaled on spikes along the cordon. Salvation reached population of 2.5 million before establishing cordon.

also, Kassandra reports, that we received two replies to our message:

'We we will come to your aid, brothers. Our ships are already on their way. Your comrades in arms, Silent Guardians.'

'My lords, I apologize for intercepting this message, but I believe that we might be of assistance. We do not have any ships to come to you, but we know the ways of the warp. If you will come to our monastery, our sisters will help you. Order of the Bloody Tears, Adeptus Sororitas.

>>17597906
It's not going to happen like that, he needs proper training and an a taint assessment before we let him pull any shit.

>>17597898
I'm all for this too. Seems like a good call

>>17597980
Of course it's not going to happen like that but let's keep him from going off the deep end for the time being.

>>17597972
Adeptus Sororitas? Who AREN'T DEAD? It is truly a miracle!

However, we should NOT go to them. Sororitas have a.... "history" with the warp. Either they set all the psykers on fire, or they go full on heretic. If we talk with them, we'll need to take precautions to avoid being purged.

As for the Silent Guardians, SURE BUDDY! Come on over!
...Just check our historical logs for anything resembling HERESY among their ranks.

>>17597972
Silent... Guardians? Well they must be better at self organisation than we are for them to help us out.

We should probably send mr.witch to the sisters monastery for the time being. It is said the sight of the sisters of battle can convince any man to forget about the warp.

>>17597972
Right.

Silent Guardians are good, when things are less crazy we should visit the Order of the Bloody Tears to cross train.

And tell the Tyrions the stop that cordon shit. If they wont then we might have to start protecting a new city, or start air lifting people in.

>>17597972 >>17598027

Okay, Silent Guardians are already on their way but we also have an open invite from the Adeptus Sororitas. Frankly, I'm inclined to wait it out for the SG and work to establish an inter-chapter alliance and workings; being allies with another chapter could benefit us in the long run. Also, I'm not too keen on sending out a separate ship from our already limited resources just for Omiron. Love the guy, but he's not worth that much.

>>17597906
>>17597906
Omiron looks shaken and confused. You never see an Astartes with shaking hands, but his fingers twiched.
'It is an honour my lord that I am not worthy to accept, at least not yet. If Librarians will find me clean of taint, I will serve you however you will ask me, but I cannot lead someone to salvation, while I myself am cursed.'


Also please note that chapter name is RISING SONS, not SUNS, we don't want Katana Marines, at least not yet.

>>17598001
we could get an apothecary to stimulate his sus-an membrane, it'll leave him knocked out for centuries if done right.

No risk involved if we tell him that we need to make sure the idol hasn't caused him any unseen bodily damage as we do not fully understand its nature.

>>17598048
A corrupted brother would have accepted the offer no doubt. Very clever.

Mind if I intrude? I know a chapter that may be willing to lend aid....

>>17598081
If hes good enough for the telepathica and the librarians. The he is good enough for the...

RISING SONS!

>>17598048
>The Chapter Master chuckles lightly
"Of course you are not ready Omiron but I do not doubt your faith or your loyalty. You simply need the proper training; and on my honour, you shall have it. Come, we have much work to do."

This will end in tears and flames.

>>17598004
no memes in my 40k
no records on silent guardians in Lexicanum. however, feel free to ask for articles on other subjects.

>>17598129
Hmmmm, no records eh? That could be something to worry about. Is our Lexicanum incomplete? I'm suddenly rethinking not sending him to the Adeptus Sororitas.

Reason, what do you think?

>>17597972
We should threaten the guardsman commander with charges of HERESY if he continues to.... Actually, fuck it. Here's what we say.

"If your forces continue to impede loyal servants to the Immortal God Emperor of Man in their sacred duty to cleanse Heidrun of heresy, your forces will be considered traitors, and cleansed along with the heretics."

We've let them grow out of control. This is some kind of Khornate heresy. If they do not withdraw, begin bombardment of their positions and destroy their vessels. They cannot impede your holy task of restoring Heidrun to Imperial control.

...Or we could call the Inquisiton, or another Guard regiment to come bitch slap these jumped-up-PDF troops into shape. Though with all the Heresy in this sector, I somehow doubt it would turn out any different. These people have been far from the Emperor's holy light for too long, and must be taught that loyalty to the Imperium stands above all else.

>>17598129
Do we have records of our past fights on there?
I'm asking because I think it would be a good Idea to build up a library of tactical literature so that we have some thing to train the new recruits with.

>>17598151
Excommunicate chapter possibly? There's a nasty habit on terra of destroying the records of chapters declared heretics / rebels / traitors.

>>17598151
I'm starting to lean with you on this one. These Silent Guardians seem a little... worrying. What area of the galaxy are we in, anyway? Please don't be Alpha Legion or sorcerors...

>>17598151
your chapters lexicanum was started just over two years ago, it is incomplete.
>>17598165
you are shy to admit it, but your chapter is a virgin when it comes to proper ground combat. however if you want to, Kassandra offers you that she can add Battle of Heidrun's Orbit into your lexicanum for all naval officers to learn from.

>>17598129
What is the time frame for the arrival of the Silent Guardians and where is the general location of the Adeptus Sororitas monastery from Tyr?

>>17598182
>>17598184
Lets trust them for now but verify every thing they teach us with the Sororitas.

And keep the silent guardians at arms length.

Bomb Salvation. The truth is what we make it. All Heidrunians were heretics led by the twisted madman Moriarty. The noble Tyrians are faithful and dutiful Imperial citizens, zealous and vigilant as befits one.

We'll make allies and build a stable, loyal and unified Heidrun government out of the wreckage.

>>17598208
I agree.

>>17598193
As our first battle a detailed section should be entered of this and the events on the ground.

Otherwise it is a little unremarkable aside from being damned tricky.

>>17598193
I see. I vote for proceed with caution. We don't want to seem paranoid, but we also wouldn't want a stab in the back because we let our guard down now would we?

Continue as if the Silent Guardians are friendly but be vigilant.

>>17598184
>>17598182
>>17598151
Segmentum Obscurus, a little to the east from galactic north. Your lexicanum is incomplete, but they indeed may be someone else than what they say they are. Do you give them your coordinates?

Meanwhile in Heidrun Salvation came under shelling from Tyran positions. They claim it was mistake, but more than 3000 people died and recently built hospital is in ruins. cordon was 'lifted' on your request, but everyone knows, that Valkyries and foot patrols sweep the area, leaving behind boobie traps and mines. Salvation currently accepts only a few hundred refugees per day, because only those who know the ancient underground tunnels or make new ones can get past Tyrans.

You would seriously doubt the respectability of a Chapter based on their name alone? That's an insult to most of the First Founding, as well as many others... the Ravagers, Marauders, Blood Drinkers, Marines Malevolent, to just begin the list. Their ways are different, but their aims are ours.

>>17598264
"Accidentally" drop a lance strike through their HQ. The surviving officers should get the point.

>>17598207
Silent Guardians will arrive within three months(if given coordinates). Mostar is a dead rock in the middle of space that also hosts a small mining community and Order of the Bloody Tears.

>>17598323
pic

>>17598193
Thats reassuring. The Silent Guardians are probably bros still keep and eye out for any funny business.

Also lets ask them for a whole library of literature to learn from (stuff on logistics, tactics, fighting styles, diplomacy, and mentoring)

If it's not clear I'm approving giving the Silent Guardians our coordinates.


Related to Planet H
Holly fuck thats not OK
We need to start taking control of Tyr's forces or at least direct them away from the safe zones.
See if Kiotan can get us a in to the armies leadership.

>>17598264
That would put us within reasonable range of Armageddon, a good campaign to make a name for the chapter in the future.

Also am I right in thinking we would be at the opposite end of the sector to the eye of terror?

>>17598264
We'd better talk to the leader of Salvation very soon, and find out why they are so hated, and what he intends to do in retaliation to the Tyir guardsmen.

>>17598358
Or, y'know, nuke 'em and put something Orwellian out there to cover it up. Truth is something that comes from guns, the universe is a big place, etc.

Vote:
A. Summon Silent Guardians
B. Go to Sisters
C. Ignore both

btw, if you choose to ignore SG, what do you say for them?

>>17598400
I'm sure the imperium doesn't need another chapter like the marines malevolent.

Diplomacy can work wonders. I'm not saying a few well placed nukes couldn't solve the problem but lets try to find another solution first.

>>17598446
I'll go with A

>>17598446
I vote A, but as >>17598208 said, I think it would be prudent to quietly cross check everything with the sisters. And to keep the Guardians at an arms length, for the time being.

>>17598446
Call the silent guardians but make it clear what our problem is so they don't come it guns a blazing.

Have any of you considered calling another chapter, from a greater distance then just the subsector? Sure it may take a bit but you may get +100 battle brothers to aid you.

>>17598340
pic related.

As for Heidrun, Tyrian HQ agrees to give Salvation and 100 km radius some slack if Rising Sons agree to retreat from Heidrun and no longer interfere in it's affairs directly. They also agree to give time until the end of year 017.M41 for refugees to come to Salvation. This is all what Kiotan managed to win with his influence. Also it seems, that we are no longer welcome on Tyr...

>>17598515
>>17598517
The (Canonically) closest chapter base of operations would be that of the silver skulls which is still some distance away so this isn't ideal.

>>17598517
Not being welcome on Tyr is frustrating and disappointing in and of itself but altogether not a large loss.

"Scipius, send order pull our forces off of Tyr and have them return to Eternity. I will need some more time to think on what happens to Salvation. Those people have put their trust and faith in us; it would do us a great disservice to abandon them now."

>>17598517
...I told you guys, nuke Salvation, make allies, create stable government. You could have listened.
Now we've got a violent and unstable people in charge of two planets, and are unwelcome on both. So much for impressing the neighbors.

>>17598517
...Fuck these heretics. They have already shown themselves to be honorless bastards. Abandoning salvation in it's time of need will merely cost our chapter honor. I suggest we withdraw Kiotan. There is no negotiating with these filthy bastards. They'll just attack the second we're out of direct fire range. We've taken Salvation, and we are going to keep it. The Tyrran fleet is inferior, as they couldn't even defeat that Rogue Trader without our support.

I suggest we demand they bugger off OUR planet, and we get down to the business of trying to fix this world they've been systematically destroying.

>>17598517
We need to consult the leader in salvation before making a decision.

>>17598560
Do not respond for all of us.

Your ideas suck. We are not leaving Tyr nore Heidrun.

>>17598569
Also, I don't think nuking citizens proven to be loyal to the Emperor to side with obvious Khornate cultists would win us any favors with the High Lords. At best, we'd be the Marines Malevolent. At worst, we'd be sent on a penitent crusade, and tragically fall to "Ork snipers".

>>17598593
>obvious Khornate cultists
Jumping to conclusions very much. Warlike cultures are smiled on in the Imperium. Your lack of zeal is disturbing.

>High Lords displeased by an efficient and ruthless solution
I don't think you understand how the Imperium works.

>>17598517
I don't believe them. They've shown their willingness to slaughter imperial citizens time and time again over this petty grudge, at best they will continue their assault on Salvation after the refugees have gathered themselves into an easily shelled locale.

For now we should begin airlifting what refugees we can into Salvation. Make it a point to paint our rescue-aircraft in very bright colors, so they can't claim it was an "accident" if they shoot it down.

Also do we have fleet repairs underway?

>>17598454
You have no weapons of mass destruction, they are quite expensive and rare. You can always try using lances, but their accuracy is measured in kilemetres.
>>17598458
>>17598463
Less than a month till Emperor's Ascension finally a small escort-class ship enters Heidrun. It gives all the correct passwords and Voroshilov allows it to send a lander to Eternity. You decide to keep distance from Silent Guardians and let Scipius handle them. However, as you admire ancient Emperor's statue(you brought it from Luna) in Chapel, Scipius voxes to you.
'Lord Master... He refuses to speak me. No, not emmissary. Chapter Master of Silent Guardians. He has not uttered a single word since we opened landing bay. It's just him, his librarian and a initiate marine with some kind of box. What shoul I do?'
In-helmet camera feed shows you your guests

>>17598517
No, this can not stand. We can not let a governor threaten a space marine chapter.

Tell the Tyrions that we are both powerful and have legal imperial right to what ever is necessary. Also mention that we are the only way to get their army back from Heidrun. Now it would be a good Idea for you (the Tyrions) to work with us. Also have Kiotan start fleeing about for details on factions.
P.S. give the Tech priests some more wealth (4 more) to harden up that base we started.

>>17598632
Give him a quill, see if that helps. Bring him to me.
>Don't even put on armor, have my guards stand at ease.

>>17598632
My, Meet them in a open hall with a some number (what evers on hand) marines about for safety.

>>17598630
No, there are no fleet repairs, because it costs Wealth and is very slow without proper facilities. However in a couple of years even your techmarines would manage to patch you up enough to be combat worthy.

btw, i want to clarify - Tyrians agree that you maintain control over Salvation(which now is over 15 million), but they don't want any of your military installations there or standing garrison.

>>17598665
>>17598665

Agreed.

That Marine in the landing bay is a little slow on the uptake. Perhapse we should have him copy 20 pages of the codex tactica in his free time to sure up his knowledge...

>>17598632
Tell him to be very careful with his words, as this chapter master is obviously very literal-minded.

Tyr:
A. increase military presence(+entrench?)
B withdraw
C keep status quo

Silent Guardians:
A Greet them with sincere trust
B Try to imitate trust
C Prepare for the worst and go everywhere surrounded by Honour Guard

>>17598632
I guess we're going to have to go and have a little chat with these guys. Seeing as it's only 3 marines (that we know of) one of whom is the chapter master, a face to face meeting would be appropriate we should bring our retinue with us and tell them to exercise caution.

>>17598682
Do they mean long term or short term? Do they want us to leave immediately or are they asking us not to leave a defense force when the crises is over.

>>17598718
C.

A.

>>17598718
Lance their command center in a show of force, increase presence, encourage Tyrian regiments loyal to the Emperor to surrender or defect.

Play it cool with the Silent Guardians. Every chapter has its quirks, let's make some friends.

>>17598729
C

A (but keep some aids around)

>>17598718
C. But prepare to withdraw if necessary, we're spread too thin right now to fuck things up with Tyr.

A. I see no reason to treat our fellow Astartes with mistrust simply because of a few minor quirks.

>>17598718
C for both

Operate covertly to keep the tyrans in check until we have a proper strategy to deal with this.

Plan for the worst, hope for the best, honor guard would be appropriate given the chapter master to chapter master meeting.

>>17598724
Tyrians, as a traditionally very closed, independant and militaristic society were ashamed to have yielded to your demands and they are afraid that you want to take control of their homeworld and make it yours. They don't want anything what might threaten them on Heidrun. A few marine advisors is nothing even in the future, but they want you to withdraw your main force within a year.
/// All this is from their POV

>>17598744
>>17598743
Cowards, we're the angels of death, and Tyr WILL listen to us.
Also, tell the Tyrians that the Silent Guardians' Chapter Master is here and will be informed of any actions they take, that the Silent Guardians are an established and feared chapter, and that they will not take bullshit.

>>17598718
I would say B, something is wrong with this governor, rather not have him there where we could lose him. Though see if we can get an inquisitor from Ordo Hereticus there to make sure things are on the up and up.

Also A for the SG, try the quill, but they may have a vow of silence

>>17598756
We need to keep a presence on Heidrun, they could prove to be a good recruiting planet

>>17598763
Also when I say "him" I mean Koitan

>>17598762
A pragmatic approach is better than a wrathful one. Only a fool would strike first in such a situation.

Given the warrior society of the tyran's, they may well prefer to die fighting than to surrender and be branded weak cowards.

>>17598756
>>17598785

Hiedrun is our planet.

But we shall not withdraw untill we have spoken with the silent guardians.

>>17598756
We should consider their offer, but if we do comply then make one thing VERY clear to the Heidrun HQ:

We will be watching. If their violent assaults against loyal citizens of the Imperium (this includes "accidents" and their minefield) continue, then as Adeptus Astartes we are honor and duty bound to interfere.

>>17598756
Right, Tell them that our only concern is loyal citizens of the Empire. Our presence is only till there is a functioning government on Heidrun. Further more we will work with you to make sure that Heidrun does not threaten Tyr or any other good imperial world. When Heidrun is judged (by us) to be self sufficient that we will leave.

>>17598871
>Heidrun HQ

And by this I mean the Tyran HQ on Heidrun, not Tyr itself.

>>17598729
>>17598743
>>17598744
>>17598753
>>17598738

When you finally meet, Silent Guardians Chapter Master removes his helmet and bows his head:
'It is just as I expected, meeting you. It is a great honour and joy to finally meet our real brothers. I was waiting for this for almost a century. We must play.' You notice, that his neck has strange tatoos. His companion without a word brings forward a box and takes out a regicide board. It is clearly a work of art, made out of ancient parts, but remodelled and decorated anew. 'I ordered this to be made for you, my brother' He prepares to play. What do you do? if you will play, roll d100

>>17598877
>>17598871

I'll happily back this, seems the most logical decision to make.

>>17598887
No.

We will not:
- give into Tyrs demands
- ignore Tyrs assaults
- give Tyr the planet Heidrun
- abandon the people of Heidrun

>>17598871
I do like this idea, but let's ammend it slightly to see if we can get to set a recruitment base on the planet. We will need initiates, and I for one would prefer that now than later

rolled 97 = 97

>>17598893
Ok?
Not to be rude to our brother in arms but don't we have more serious things to talk about?

rolled 67 = 67

>>17598893
Let's play.

>>17598893
Cock eyebrow.
"Very well brother."

Can we at least try to make the tyr guys back off before we start blasting?
Here's an appropriate speech:
"So, what you are saying is that you are killing loyar imperial citizens without a satisfying explanation? and then you LIE to us and claim it was an ACCIDENT? That sounds like some serious khornate HERESY right there. And, what do we do to heretics? that's right, we PURGE them, so you will either prove that you are not heretics by BACKING THE FUCK OFF or we will do some heretic PURGING.
Any questions?"

Voting: A-entrench and A sincere trust.
We have nothing to hide and, unless they are corrupt fucktards, we have no reason to fear them/their questions.
Hell, we don't even have any chapter secrets.

rolled 24 = 24

>>17598893
this is how we will be judged by the guardians. I would think that the chapter must be very tactically minded to present such a gift with little to no knowledge of our chapter.

Very well.

>>17598946
damn first time using the dice

rolled 47 = 47

Voting for A-Entrenchment.

Also, let us play chess with our brother. And pray to God Emperor he isn't a sorceror.

>>17598947
No.

>>17598756
We will force the Tyr Guardsmen to leave very soon. Without needing to kill them. We will demand an inspection as they are under our command.

Then we will leave the guardsmen in Salvation to finish off the heretics.

Then we shall turn our attentions to purging the heresy from the ranks of the Tyr guard, and returning them home.

But all of this depends on what the SG chapter master has to say.

>>17599037
>>17599037
>>17599037
>>17599037

rolled 79 = 79

Let's play some board games

>>17599037
This sound like a good plan.

>>17599063
Gameception.

>>17599037
The Tyr Guardsmen are not under our control though, that's the problem, we would be unable to probe them for heresy if the governor doesn't want us to.

>>17598927
>>17598931
>>17598948
>>17598990
In the first game you wipe the floor with him, showing him that Rising Sons can use their brains just as well as their guns. 'Beautiful game. You can call me Silencius. Now let us continue.' Next game was a close loss, but third and fourth parties were complete defeats. It seems Silencius was caught off-guard at first, but then he adapted to your strategy and perfected a way to defeat you. 'Enough, little brother' It seems he noticed your growing anxiety to know more. 'This board is yours, may you see many victories upon it, I have no doubt that you have questions for me, feel free to ask. I will have to leave soon, but my Librarian, Sophius, will stay. He cannot speak, but he will serve you till his death.'

>>17599037
>Then we will leave the guardsmen in Salvation

I really hope you don't mean Tyr's guardsmen. That would be an awful idea.

>>17598947
>"So, what you are saying is that you are killing loyar imperial citizens without a satisfying explanation? and then you LIE to us and claim it was an ACCIDENT? That sounds like some serious khornate HERESY right there. And, what do we do to heretics? that's right, we PURGE them, so you will either prove that you are not heretics by BACKING THE FUCK OFF or we will do some heretic PURGING."

>Suspecting properly hateful Imperial citizens of chaotic allegiance
>Informing those far below clearance not only of the existence but the name of a Chaos god

God, I would hope people might have noticed that this is a very sober quest set in a well-thought-out interpretation of the 40k universe by now.

Tyrian dictator, Konorr, demands you to leave from Tyr or he will inform HLoT about the situation,

You have no Tyrian guardsmen under your command.

>>17599074
"We thank you brother, both for the gift and the assistance. We did require someone to train one of our own in the mystic arts. But I do wish to inquire if you can give us all the information you can about this sector. Since we have arrived it has been... different."

>>17599074
Idea to ask about:
Silent Guardians (who, were, chapter history)
Other treats to look out for (orks, genestealers, ect)
Other powers that be (inquisitors, other space marine chapters, ect)

>>17599095
feels good man. in return - some info on SG that you acquire through chat.

>>17599110
Withdraw Kiotan from Tyr, but does he also want us gone from Hiedrun as well?

...what's going on here?

>>17599110
I seriously doubt he has any direct communication with the Imperial Senate. He'd have to contact the Lord Sector first, who probably has had enough of his bullshit by now.

>>17599110

Wait what..

>>17599110
Didn't the HLoT give us control over this sector?

>>17599071

They shall come to heel as we order or they shall be purged.

>>17599095
Khor-who?

Seriously now, some people just are just daft, others are trolls, I really hope the guy you're quoting is the former.

>>17599074
"My Brother, are you aware of the current situation we are working to resolve within this system? If so what course of action would you advise?"

>>17599110
Inform the High Lords of Terra of this situation. Tell them Konnor is impeding our efforts to return this world to the Emperor's Light, and we suspect the guardsmen under his command of insubordination at least, if not heresy.

>>17599157
Agreed, Konnor must at least be reported and we need to get clearance IF we ever do have to come to arms against him.

Alright, can we get the stat block for Tyr AND Heidrun? I'd like to see how much many seperatists/chaos cults remain on H, and how many of T's guardsmen are invested in H world.

>>17599110
Remind the Governor that he is in no postion to make demands. As his army is away and they need our ship to get back home.

So how about a compromise we and tyrions army leave Heidrun. And if any fighting happens in the future we promise to attack the agresser.

>>17599111
>>17599126
'For the last half century that we spent in active service, our main focus was on protection of Sub-Sector Mirabilis, it's just to galactic east from here. We know almost nothing about Cryptus. I can upload some data on Onyx forge world, because we were there in search of components for our project. We mainly fight Dark Eldar corsairsin Mirabilis, but almost a decade ago we engaged some Chaos Marine warband. They escaped then, but we are still trying to track them down.'

We should get the Tyran guardsmen off of Heidrun and return them to Tyr, since WE got them there they lack the resources to defend against bombardment, so it's not like they can defy us. The sisters of battle should be more than willing to assist us in purging the remaining disloyal elements on heidrun after they leave. At this point Tyr is Heidrun's biggest problem, not the scattered remnants of its insurrection.

>>17599182
It would be nice to use this planet as a recruitment planet. If anything, make a recruitment base here as our only presence, then have both Tyrians and ourselves withdraw.

>>17599182
>Remind the Governor that he is in no postion to make demands. As his army is away and they need our ship to get back home.
This is a good point.

>>17599178
>Agreed, Konnor must at least be reported and we need to get clearance IF we ever do have to come to arms against him.

As a Chapter Master, we're equal to him. We're both Imperial Commanders, which makes us both proxies for the Emperor. We can kick his ass and don't need permission to do it. If we win, he clearly wasn't a legitimate governor.

>>17599196
"Thank you brother, any information is helpful."
We need to get in touch and at peace with Onyx so we can have a supply of weapons, ammo, and tanks.

>>17599197
1. Tyr plans colonising Heidrun, they are already moving in families and stuff.

2. They have their own transports, it's just that they are slow and they have no fleet, so you can cut them off.

3. Sisters of battle probably even in my version of 40k(no bullshit about 10k sororitas) are not numerous enough to jumo against millions of Tyrians. + they don't have ships

>>17599205
I agree. We should leave a slightly more substantial base here than just an outpost.

But this is a tainted planet, scarred by drug abuse and war. The most we can do is guide them into the emperors service. Well shall use them to recruite non-marine personel such as navy captains, telepaths and vassels.

To this end we shall create a recruitment outpost in the city of slavation and keep it under our control. We then guide them into forming an imperial guard PDF worthy of being called on to aid us in the future.

>>17599264
4. bulk of Tyrian army is at home. it was simply too hard and unnecessary to transport all of them.

5. You have no precision bombarding capability. You have no weapons of mass destruction.(this doesn't mean that you can't get them).

>>17599264
Tell them that we will destroy any transport ships that transition into the Heidrun system, as well as any that leave the surface. We are taking control of the situation.

And see about finding some techpriests in Salvation or aboard the Silent Guardians' ship to direct salvage efforts on those fleets. Whoever aids us, offer them one of the ships.

>>17599299
>those fleets
Meaning all the crippled ships already in orbit.

Silencius thanks you for your company and prepares to return home. However he asks you, if you would be interested in playing regicide with him through soulwords? it would be slow, but no one's in a hurry.

>>17599318
Of course.
There will be long moments when we are waiting on transport.
It would be easy to do.
And would keep us in good ties with their chapter master.

>>17599264
Send marine or two to the Sortia's to train to be Chaplains. I also don't feel good about Konnor colonizing this planet... What are other peoples thoughts?
>>17599207
Yes, but if we just charge in, we could be subject to at least a Inquisition inquiry and investigation or at worst excommunication. We first need to verify our suspicions.

>>17599294
It would be sensible to acquire some WMD's as a deterrent at the very least. Something flashy that would make for a good show of force yet will not cause too much collateral.

I Vote that we send a detachment to pay the Admech a visit over on Onyx for this purpose.

>>17599264
The fuck? They will leave right now. This was a military operation not a colonization project.

Tell that governor that we want full control of this military operation now or else we will start performing orbital strikes.

OC (we should have noticed that they were taking women and children, as that would have sent major waring bells off)

>>17599299
Tyr has the techpriest monopoly on planets. Salvation has almost none, certainly not enough to give them away for salvaging, while 22 million people are living without electricity. Silent Guardians have only one tech-marine onboard, and they need him in case something happens on journey home. However Tyr would accept your offer in return for a ship and immediate withdrawal from Tyr.

>>17599335
>Yes, but if we just charge in, we could be subject to at least a Inquisition inquiry and investigation or at worst excommunication. We first need to verify our suspicions.

Just what suspicions do we have? That they're Khorne worshippers? Because they're militaristic? Like everyone else in the galaxy?
Whereas we have confirmation that they have begun colonizing another Imperial planet after subjugating its natives and breaking the trust of the Space Marine chapter that helped them. Any Inquisition investigation would find us pure of intentions and deeds.

>>17599355
Guess we'll have to send all the way to Onyx. I think our consensus is that we're playing it honorably and not negotiating with Tyr.

>>17599299
I agree to repair the ships idea, but such an ultimatum like that would seem rather renegade. If anything, we tell Tyr that Hiedrun is not going to be ruled underneath Konnor or someone that is under his thumb.

I love how this has the feel of a council run chapter about it, however some people don't seem to get the fact that this quest isn't about "Hurr Empras Fureh!" which is a pitty.

Keep up the awesome work OP.

>>17599396
>such an ultimatum like that would seem rather renegade.
It's how the Imperium works. There's a damn lot of people who have the authority of the Emperor behind them, and when they disagree, it's trial by combat. There's no unified government to speak of.

>>17599389

Yes, lets go to Onyx.
Inform them of the situation.
Tell them of the ships that require the expertise of their magnificent TechPriests.
Be honorable and respectful.
And in fact, we should offer them a spot in helping developing our new home. We can praise the Emperor while they praise the machine spirit

>>17599339
they've started doing this only after a year or so after the operation began, and colonisation is done via their own ships.

Year 018.M41
Your course of action:
A. Intimidate and then engage Tyrians
B. Surprise engage Tyrians
C. Accept Tyrian offer(withdraw + salvage)
D. Just withdraw from Tyr
E. Try to engage in diplomatic campaign against Konorr in Sector Lords office(soulwords)
F..?

>>17599335
>Send marine or two to the Sortia's to train to be Chaplains.

Giving control over our future Chapter cult to the Ecclesiarchy sounds pretty dangerous. We don't want any undue influences over our Marines.

>>17599424
Lets wait on that till we have a planet. But other than that It sounds good

>>17599430
Please clarify A&B, are these options to engage the Tyrians on Tyr, Heidrun,

>>17599454

Being able to call upon the Admech as allies is a huge bonus.
If we were able to get better equipment from them, this would benefit us immensely.
Terminator suits and Mastercrafted war gear.
We could provide protection for them. Who wouldn't want an entire Space Marine chapter on call?

>>17599389
Plus, open up diplomacy with Onyx. Train Techmarines, get supplies, some tanks.

>>17599430
I thought that only a few months have passed? Please be clearer about how much time has passed.

Does that mean that the the III company has been lost for years?

>>17599430
Sophius judged Omiron clear of taint, but he is gifted as a psyker. Currently his potential is kept under control by anti-psychic necklace and drugs and Omiron will be trained as a Chaplain, but if you want Sophius can make a Librarian out of him.

>>17599502

Yes please to Librarians.
Hide them if we ever meet the Black Templars.

>>17599502
>Have founding Librarian-Chaplain
>Chapter cult centers around superhuman potential, both in terms of space marine-ness and psychic ability

I am fine with this.

>>17599437
It's only a few marines, not an entire company. And we currently have no Chaplains, they would be the best at eradicating any taint or heresy amongst us and others.Basically we just need them for Chaplain training, not asking them to become our lords and masters.
>>17599430
Try E first, if that fails or makes situation worse then either A or B (preference is B, may get less casualties).

>>17599502
Librarian would be best. One guy was a little vocal about the chaplain. Utility over zeal any day in my opinion.

If we make bros out of the onyxian admech, we can commission his gear from them (Psychic hood, force weapon etc) as I doubt we have a set just knocking around.

>>17599496
Indeed it is missing for almost 1.5 years. As political negotiations and Heidruns restorationa are slow moving things, time goes faster to have any events that are worth noting.

A and B options mean conflict in general, when you decide that you want it, you will be able to give all the details. However you are sure, that no matter where you will attack Tyrians, they will answer everywhere.
>>17599430

votes?

>>17599538

I am ambiguous on this man.

>>17599502
Librarian. His psyker potential is to great an asset to use him as a chaplain. I suggest training someone else for Chaplain, someone that is strong in faith.

>>17599538
>answer everywhere
Except spess, because they cannot into spess combat without a fleet.

Do we know how well Tyr gets along with Onyx? This is a big factor that could make or break relations.

>>17599536
What I want to do is demand control of operations. If they don't agree then start bombing them (target head quarters).

When they do agree start sending them back to Tyr.

So assisted negotiation.

>>17599502
Also, regardless of whether he becomes a chaplain or not, he needs librarian training so a daemon doesn't decide to burst through his skull into the material realm, that could really fuck up the chapters reputation. Play it safe.

>>17599430
No, i'm sorry. HOW are they going around us?
- they agreed to help us destroy the chaos cult on Heidrun
- they needed our ships to get there
- ???
- suddenly, colonisation and we have no command over them

This is unacceptable and ridiculous. They will either leave the planet or they will be purged. The colonists will be blockaded, untill the chaos threat is subdued and peace is restored. Any and all landing on the planet will be assumed to be attacking Heidrun and will have there directional instruments targeted.

>>17599589
We can't do accurate bombing yet.

>>17599583
>>17599502
>>17599514
>>17599521
Omiron reacted to this in a very strange way - he is both happy, that he is finally accepted for who he is, but he also seems to be unable to extinguish his hatred for himself and other psykers... Even Sophius has to be as polite as possible to be tolerated by him. Two things are clear - Omiron will have no disciples and may Emperor have mercy on any enemy psyker he meets.

>>17599589
>>17599589
and
>>17599605
>>17599605

>>17599610

1. Turn ship to side of planet.

2. Get into position over the place you know you wanna hit.

3. Keep firing until we cant see that damn thing we wanna kill.

>>17599589
Or they will declare war. But still, I do like the idea and I am in support of it. We will lose element of surprise though.

>>17599621
see if we can't have Sophius give him specialized training against enemy psykers.

all goes well, we have ourselves a librarian hunter/commissar

>>17599605
That is a tad ridiculous OP. They should (even if they don't like us) have had it pressed upon them that we are a power and now some one to mess with. We should at also have gotten a response about our demand to be given command of the Tyrion forces on heidrun

so it is agreed: final ultimatum and then engage? i need three YES to proceed and please a priority for your battle actions

>>17599630
>5. You have no precision bombarding capability. You have no weapons of mass destruction.(this doesn't mean that you can't get them).

I'm not sure what his logic here is, but I'm guessing we either weren't properly supplied or we used all our bombs on the delerium (a little warning about our ammo would've been nice if that is the case OP).

>>17599680
Yes. Issue an ultimatum. Also, for future reference, Lance Batteries and the like should be classed as WMDs, being able to blow small planets apart.

>>17599680
We will give our demand first then decide how to engage. Our first threat is a naval blockade.

>>17599680
Wait, do we know if Tyr has relations with Onyx? We MUST know this before we do anything.

>>17599685

Even then, Ship to ship weapons still make damn good firing bombardment tools.

Just keep firing on one spot.
We dont have to be precise if we want to make a point.

>>17599704
I agree with this. If they refuse, we have no choice but to send them to the warp. We have been VERY lenient with them.

>>17599705
Tyr supplies Onyx with ore.

>>17599661
>>17599605
To make it clear: no, they never needed your ships to get there, they needed you to break the RT's blockade.

Yes, they were silent about their true purpose of supporting you, but they never swore allegiance to you or gave you any illusion, that you are in command. in their minds you are allies, not lords. you wanted heidrun fall, they wanted heidrun fall. you broke the fleet, and they did the dirty job. They respect you and would like to remain allies, but they are greedy bastards who eyed this green planet for too long to now give it up when they hold, Especially, when you are a whale and they are a lion. you cannot win on the ground without proper military support, they cannot do anything to your fleet unless you get close enough to their planets. This is a wall you cannot break with your head, gotta think.

>>17599760
Why exactly can't we bomb them from orbit? This was not an issue when we blew up the delerium, why is it suddenly a problem now?

>>17599760
If things go south, naval blockade of Tyr. Only problem is with Onyx then...

>in their minds you are allies, not lords.
They were allies in ours, too, not subjects, and now it is apparent that they were not acting in good faith, and furthermore are disrupting the Imperial Peace. We have no choice here.

>>17599760


COUNCIL IS NOW SESSION.


Wait, they want this planet?
We want a fortress world?

Why not kill two birds with 5 stones?

Use the colonists as a work force to help build up our fortress monastery.
Dispense the Emperors will upon the colonists.
Act as leadership for the planet.
They may colonize, but we shall be the rulers and protectors of our new home.

Or...
Its up in the air.

>>17599797

AND.
Samefaggin and adding onto this.
We can have the Admech come along with us.
They can set up a base of operations for mining on this planet.

>>17599760
We could promise that dead world to them.

What I'm most upset about is that we were not informed about this sooner. The fact that they could do all this under our noses is what I'm mad about.

>>17599797
Do we really want a world that has been tainted with Chaos as our main base?

And has Kappa got out of the Warp Storm yet?

>>17599695
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lance#List_of_vessels_mounting_Lance_weaponry
No reference about planets blown apart. This is anti-ship weapon, devastating, but not that much.
>>17599685
As a new chapter, you were given enough resources to acquire whatever you believe is required for your mode of operation. No WMD were given and your ships weren't built for anti-planetary actions. Delirium stockpiles were blown up together with cities where they were located using lances(at that time no one cared about the casualties).

>>17599797
I like the idea of either us ruling it, or finding governor that has our best interests in mind ruling, so this would be a good ultimatum.

>>17599760
>Especially, when you are a whale and they are a lion. you cannot win on the ground without proper military support, they cannot do anything to your fleet unless you get close enough to their planets. This is a wall you cannot break with your head, gotta think.

We can still cut off their interplanetary transport. Tyr would then have no direct control over its subjects on Heidrun, and it would be likely that some opportunists would take the chance to sieze control over the colonization. This would be a disaster for Konnor- rather than a colony under his thumb, another competing military regime.

Or, we can offer to the tech-priests of Onyx to install them in direct control over their ore source after we overthrow Konnor.

We're Space Marines. We don't wage ground wars, we drop into the palaces of troublesome Governors and splatter them all over the tapestries.

>>17599833
you have no knowledge about Task Force Kappa whereabouts.

>>17599760
>but they never swore allegiance to you or gave you any illusion, that you are in command

Well in my mind things never went any way OTHER than that.

Whoevers decision op picked, was moronic, and we jumped ahead perhapse 5 stages to commence war because op allowed it.

Make allies with Onyx before we fuck Tyr up, promise Onyx all of the ore they want.

>>17599863
Agreed with giving Tyr to Onyx if they assist us in assaulting the planet.

>>17599863
Agreed, Admech would make better rulers (and allies) than Konnor. Assuming they don't also have a secret agenda and start juicing all of Tyrs babies or something...

>>17599909
>>17599863
>>17599797

Admech brofisting is what we want.

>>17599797
I agree with this.

We should share control of Hiedrun with the Tyrans, Invite the adeptus mechanicus. Slaughtering the emperor's servants(Even if we do disagree with their ways)should be extremely frowned apon, we are not a established chapter, We can not just storm them and wipe them out. We must be careful, for we are in our founding steps, Allies are much preferable to enemies, And have we all forgotten the world we must find, Brothers?

>>17599914
Release the Titan!

>Slaughtering the emperor's servants(Even if we do disagree with their ways)should be extremely frowned apon, we are not a established chapter, We can not just storm them and wipe them out.

Frowning is all we do here.

The governor of Tyr is overstepping his bounds and invading his neighbors. He's making a personal empire. This is the sort of scenario space marines are made for. We stop people like that.

>>17600004

>>17600006

Exactly why we need to take over the next step of his "Empire building."
Give ourselves a place to call home and stop him from getting a new planet, just a new place for his people call home.
Surely we can be better rulers than this dictator.

>>17599988
>>17599797
Tyrians would agree to let you do whatever you want to do with three conditions:
1. Heidrun becomes Tyr's colony
2. Heidrun is exploited by Tyr
3. You will have no part in any machinations against Tyrian government(Konorr).

they even agree to let Salvation exist and give that territory to your realm as a token of good will. There is enough loot for everyone.

>>17600044

Hahaha what.

Yeah. No. Fuck that.
Its ours, we can offer a better place to live than a fucking Ice Ball.
They shall not have any affairs in ruling our new fortress. It is a sovereign planet.

>>17600004
Send message to Onyxian Technocratic Council:
"Thank you for your greeting and it is returned in kind. Peace, as you mentioned, seems to be very uneasy right now. We agree with you lending aid for a compromise, but we also ask that, if Tyr refuses the agreement, that you join with us. Marines we may be, but Tyr will prove to be disastrous if we alone combat them. Once we have both taken Tyr, we will defer control of Tyr and all it's assets to you. Again we thank you for your assistance in these matters."

>>17600004
So basically our options are "piss off everyone" or "bend over and let Tyr do whatever they want"?

>>17600044
NOW they're letting Salvation exist? Despite their previous assaults and efforts to undermine it? They expect us to believe them despite their willingness to deceive us?

>>17600044
I propose before we respond to Tyr, that we wait for the Onyxian's peace ship to arrive.
>>17600070
I agree with you, these demands are ridiculous.

>>17600081

This but without giving Tyr away. Offer ore from Tyr and Heidrun.

Fuck Tyr, they had their chance.

>>17600118
I don't mind if they have Tyr, just that they assist us and make Konnor into a janitorial servitor for us.

>>17600081

>>17600176

From what I understand, we have two groups on Heidrun.

>Salvation, glorious jewel of hope that at the very least has a good opinion of us

>Tyrian forces and chaos cults, the first of whom have shown nothing less than a total disregard for our authority and a desire to destroy Salvation (as well as any other loyal heidrunians that may remain). The latter are already kill on sight.

It should be fairly simple to aim at one and not the other, even with inaccurate munitions. But for the sake of safety it might as well be asked;

OP, if we chose to use our orbital munitions to bombard the Tyrian forces on Heidrun, how likely would it be that ANY of those rounds would cause damage to Salvation. Furthermore, what defensive capacity does Salvation have against the Tyrian forces too close to bombard?

>>17600176
Well... That is most troublesome.... And negotiations may not go into our favor because of Tyr's control over Onyx...

>>17600176
WHAT. Konorr did nothing! We broke the rogue trader's fleet! They don't even HAVE a fleet!

>>17600238
1. Immediate cessation of ALL Tyrian hostilities against the city known as "Salvation", as well as a cessation of hostilities against those loyal Heidrunians seeking entry to the city known as "Salvation".

>>17600238


Alright.

We need.

1. Get a fortress and base of operations up and ready.

2. Improve relations with all factions.

3. Stop Tyr from going power crazy.


Does that sound about right guys?

>>17600238
1. Rising Sons take complete control of Hiedrun and it's assets.
2. Tyrian troops withdraw IMMEDIATLY
3. (Is not sure but I would like to see Konnor removed as governor).

>>17600238
1:A homeworld for our chapter
2:Protection of the loyalists in and attempting to reach Salvation.
3:Respectful treatment from our neighbors.
That doesent sound unreasonable at all, Does it brothers?

>>17600176
They have a point. We can't conquer, and I'm sure Onyx would be unamused if we Exterminatus'd Tyr, which we couldn't because we have no such weapons on board. However, we can still waste any fleet the Tyrians send to fight us.

I suggest we stick to our guns and take control of Heidrun. Bugger the Tyrians, we don't care about their puny fleetless world. If we don't damage Tyr, the Onyx Technocrats will probably be okay with things, since they'll still have trading partners, while we'll be fine, because we'll have a whole new world to rebuild. And we'll also become trading partners in the future, and could become some right now if we purchase the aid of a well-trained Adeptus Mechanicus presence to un-fuck Salvation's systems.

OH SHIT. We should probably withdraw the marines on Tyr REALLY QUICKLY if we haven't already. This thing is about to spill over.

>>17600282
I don't think we need to include the fortress in our priorities, as we can do that on a world Tyr has no influence over. They aren't our allies, lets not risk angering them by establishing ourselves on their perceived "possession".

>>17600315

This is a better idea.

>>17600282

Ignore this.

>>17600195
There is almost no danger for Salvation from your orbital bombardment if you aim at enemy concentrations, industrial centres, etc.
5% of friendly fire chance, something like that.

However, such orbital bombardment will not stop Tyrians from overwhelming the Salvation. then you have two choices:
a) bombardment dangerously close to Salvation. 50% FF
b) your whole chapter makes a (last?) stand there.

otherwise Salvation will be overwhelmed. Also, pulling something like this off is possible on Heidrun, because it's AA systems are wrecked. On Tyr there will be planetary defence systems shooting your way.

last thing - have no illiusions - orbital bombardment might kill millions, but it's impossible to wipe all ALL Tyrians that are currently stationed there, they are simply too small and too many.

p.s. lance strikes, after a few days of continuous bombardment will create a fallout winter

>>17600327
I agree, have we already moved our marines from Tyr?

>>17600220
You dun goofed, dummeh.

>>17600238
The only reason the Admech are here is because they want in on the negotiations to tear up this planet.

1.) The interim planet government of Hiedrun is now our protectorate and is being assessed for suitability as a home world. It is not under control of Tyr. We cannot afford to let his power advance.

2.) Re-negotiate a resource contract with Onyx for the gass exports for use as fuel.

3.) Leave Konoor alive. But offer him the gasses contract aswell.

>>17600354
Let's not do anything that drastic just yet. Onyx will support Tyr if we do that and they request assistance.

>>17600354
Actually you have a decent chance of winning on Heidrun, However you will face a long and bloody opposition from Tyrian remnants and your next door neighbour will be your mortal enemy.

Hmm. Yeah it seems Heidrun should be the priority, Tyr itself is pointless both as an asset and a threat. One of the priorities should be total control over Heidrun and it's government, as well as the actions of all guardsmen present.

>>17600354


Tell them to fuck off with Salvation?
Fuck why are they even trying to go against us?
This is really starting to piss me off.

They have no way stop themselves from being killed by our guns.

This is like trying to teach a dumb animal.

Get to the commander on the ground.

Tell him to shut the fuck up. Get his troops away from Salvation.

Or..

They will all die a death by bombardment? How hard is this?
We are willing to let them live if they do as we say.

>>17600415
if onyxian fleet(Cruiser, 6 escorts) engages you ( damaged SHB, 4 combat fit, but damaged escorts), you will wither win a phyrric victory or a terrible defeat

>>17600315
I vote for this course of action, for reasons that already been stated by others. Salvation is our protectorate, we should ensure it remains as such.

At this point, we might want to consider finding another habitable world (preferably not the death world) to move Salvation's inhabitants to. Tyr is either extremely tenacious or extremely stupid, either way they want nothing less than the utter destruction of all Heidrunians.

>>17600324

This sounds good now that we know more about Onyx.

>>17600411
>>17600411
>>17600411

The only reason Onyx wants in on the negotiations is because it wants something.

We have offered them the contract to get them on our side. Lets see how they respond.

>>17600473
We should also add that we will be willing to open up trade with both systems. It wouldn't be part of the negotiations, but it could sweeten the deal for both parties. Also if Tyr still rejects it, Onyx will be more sympathetic to our cause.

>>17600520
Their response seems to be "status quo is good". Why bother with a coup if Tyr already gives them what they want? As far as they seem to be concerned, WE are the problem that needs to be dealt with, they're just trying to solve it with words first instead of risking damage to their machines.

>>17600324
I am this anonymous.
I would like to additionally add that, While Hiedrun may be preferable in the close-run for a homeworld, I do not beleive it is necessary, And a much more promising world might be just around the corner of exploration, One that could easily become our homeworld and the homeworld of salvationers. Hail the emperor.

Why don't we just give up Heidrun? It won't be a good homeworld, too much of a history of drug violence and heresy. The only good part about it is Salvation, which if we get the Tyr guys to promise to leave alone we're set. If they break their end of the bargain, then that is the a great excuse to fuck their shit up, which the HLoT will no doubt support for Try killed imperial citizens for no reason.

We really need to reunite with Company II. If we ditch Heidrun, we can go grab them, then find that Ice planet, and possibly another planet to use as the homeworld.

OOC: Skargan, how are you running this? Is this a homebrew thing you're making up as you go. Is this a playtest of Chapter Master? Is this a rulebook from somewhere? Because this is awesome and I'd love to play it myself.

Also, you gotta love the psyker who hates psykers, Omiron

>>17600569
We get to decide which dead ship (not the cruiser) and not pay 30 wealth, and sounds like a good deal

>>17600569

Actually...
That sounds reasonable.

Reasonable Marines are good.

>>17600569
.......I'm okay with this.

>>17600176
>Estimated pacification: 186.5 years
We can put a drop pod through his palace ceiling in a couple of weeks. We can put a drop pod through whatever ceiling next defies us. We have no interest in a protracted war, but in quashing resistance by fear.
And it's much easier if you can teleport us back out again, honored Techpriests. Retrieval is difficult with drop pods...

>>17600569
I am agreeable with this. Anyone else?

>>17600569
This sounds perfectly acceptable to myself, And their search for a new homeworld for us might even yield the iceworld we are meant to find. Which would be killing several birds with one stone.

>>17600569
>2
Will likely be a puppet, but no real reason to oppose this.

>8
Please clarify who gives the wealth. Is it 15 from each or 30 from us. Or 30 from tyr/us for a total of 60?

Everything else seems pretty good.

Heidrun becomes both colonized and independent? By two factions with a longstanding hatred?
Also, what about those other ships awaiting salvage?

>>17600621
We can sign agreement with new Hiedrun government to protect them if Tyr ever decides to try some funny business.

But the real question is: Does Tyr except this agreement?

rolled 51 = 51

The treaty looks ok to me. Give them a dead escort ship.

>>17600569
Verry well...

Lets see if this Konoor can control the new governor of both Tyr and Hiedrun from his retirement home.

They'd better be sweet with that home planet offer too...

>>17600561
What is a Chapter Master you mentioned? This is loosely adapted Dark Heresy homebrew setting for space marine chapter to roam in. I make up stuff as i go and roll to see how bad/good/randumb it is. anyway, thanks for the good word, it really matters. the only shame is that I am uk-based, when most of players are american, it's 3 am here.

>>17600621
That's what 6 is for I think. If Salvation chooses to be part of the new government, their problems are just that. If they choose us, we can intervene.

At worst, the admech takes the cruiser (that we need them to repair anyway), at best they take an escort. The rest we can negotiate with them afterwards to get them repaired and added to our fleet.

>>17600665
Chapter Master is the thing is how /tg/ is getting shit done.

http://1d4chan (DOT) org/wiki/Chapter_Master_(game)

>>17600665
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chapter_Master_(game)

>>17600696
>>17600698
Chaptermastermind

>>17600569
>>17600569
The admech may take 1 dead ship, but it cannot be one of the dead marine ships.

The planet Heidrun needs good deals on gasses with Onyx to stand a chance of survival and rebuilding.

>>17600585
your choice on ship.
>>17600599
this is estimated time for non-governed resistance to die down. just 6 generations.
>>17600614
30 each.
>>17600657
Tyr reluctantly agrees.

>>17600714
"Give them one of the less beat up escorts that previously belonged to the heretic rogue trader, we do not need all of those dead ships."

>>17600714

>Our choice on ship


YES.JPG

>>17600714
OH GOD THE EXPENSE.

But we cannot afford a war right now, and this treaty covers most things, and gives us a link to Onyx. I think we should agree with it. And then we go off to search for the ice world.

ALMOST FORGOT! Does Onyx have an Arbites detachment? We could use their help in assisting the Salvation government in maintaining law and order, not to mention rooting out Chaos.

>>17600714
Give 'em a descent ship, smooth over relations n' make em like us kinda. But that damn cruiser is fucking ours, we fought and died for it

>>17600667
>>17600621
>>17600714

We all pretty much know that ops quest is FUCK AWSOME and many happy memories were made for all from this quest.

>>17600696
>>17600698
We have a Chapter Master thread currently-
>>17599571

It seems that tech-priest logic broke the ice in Rising Sons-Tyrian crysis. Your marines are allowed to leave Tyr and Tyrians begin withdrawal of their forces from Heidrun. All other parts of the treaty are also follow under supervision of Onyxian Council.

Salvation chooses to be part of your realm. You can annex it or leave it as a puppet state with awesome amount of influence.

Onyxians offer you to buy wrecks in Heidruns orbit:
30 Wealth for Cruiser and 10 each for escorts

Also, handling situation reasonably works well on your reputation.

>>17600791
Yep. Good job, OP. This is your Dark Heresy campaign setting? You're a good 40k DM. This is good 40k setting work.

>>17600789
We fought and died for the people of the Imperium. But you are right, the treaty did mean that we cannot remunerate our losses.

>>17600760
All of this, definitely need law bringers without using us. Also, out of treaty, talk to onyx about maybe trade between us in the form of ammunition and tanks as well as possibly getting some Techs on the remaining dead ships. We need them as the protecting fleet for Heidrun.

>>17600814

Buy a cruiser and an escort.
Say the rest are for the Admech.
They are a gift to improve relations.

>>17600814
I say we keep the cruiser, the space marine ships, and the number of escorts that we lost permanently in the fight to bring us back up to the strength we were at when we first arrived in the sector, minus those guys lost to the warp.

Our next order of business is to head to the last known location of Company II, around the warp storm if we must.

>>17600887
They're buying them from us, not the other way around

>>17600856
Considering that Tyr lacks a militarized fleet entirely, is space defense a big priority right now?

>>17600814

Sell what we need to repair our fleet/dead ships and the dead cruiser

>>17600814
Eh... Those wrecks would be better repaired and used to patrol and keep Heidrun safe. While I would not mind Salvation as completely ours, if we make it a puppet state, we will be able to influence Heidrun a bit.

Onyxians are also interested in keeping good relations with and they promise to send reconstruction teams, arbitres and anything else that is needed for free. At the same time they can do some additional work, but will have to pay for materials.

Projects[Salvation]:
Drug-factory - 10 W(gives unlimited access to advanced combat drugs to our chapter)
Industry - 20 W(makes 1W per year)
Astartes Arena - 15 W(trains quality recruits for initiation)
something else?

>>17600926
Silent Guardians mentioned Chaos Space Marines escaping from them and the (possibly) vengeful RT escapees. We need to have some form of space protection.

>>17600956
I agree, and our relationship with Salvation has always been that of guardian, not ruler. Short of a full blown chaos infestation or assault by Tyrians we don't have a reason to intervene in their affairs directly.

game over for today. as I seem to have enthusiasm, tommorow at 2-3 pm uk time i might resume. or maybe in the evening, depends. good night everyone, thanks for playing.

>>17600986
At first glance that Industry doesn't seem good, but just think, 3 years have already passed. That thing will pay for itself in no time

>>17601027
G'night, is the thread archived? I think it was worth it

>>17600986
Astartes Arena and Industry. Rather not rely on drugs, and would be hypocritical in the eyes of Heidrunians.

>>17601027
Amazing thread OP, will await your return tomorrow if I'm snowed in.

Someone do me a favor and archive it tomorrow? I'll probably miss it

>>17600986

- Independent Imperial guard regiment. (roughly 4000 infantry)

Recruited from the city of salvation. Highly loyal citizens having survived the great withdrawal from the drug, having run from the chaos taints, survived the Tyr extermination and are loyal to us.

They are to be outfitted to a good quality equipment for guardsmen and remain stationed as a defensive force should the rest of Hiedrun turn on them.

As long as they are our protectorate. There regimental banner is to feature us, and they are to feature our livery colours on their uniforms.

Sound good?

>>17601098
Have we decided on our colors yet? If we tell them to use our colors when they haven't seen us we're going to end up with prismatic guardsmen.

>>17601041
>>17601092
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17595495/
archived and tommorow i will also archive if there will be game

>>17601133
I'm afraid we haven’t.

But i think we should sort that out when we find a home world so that it will have some continuity.

Glad thats all done and done.

Projects for next thread:
Visit that Sororitas's Planet
Visit Onyx
Find that lost company
Continue trying to find unmarked planets in the subset.
Look for suitable monastery (thou I think we should be a fleet capter and just have recruiting grounds)
Search that death world for any useful resources (Might as well check)


I think we should Take the Capter master and 100 marines to Mostar (the Sororitas's Planet) talk and survey their then continue to to Onyx

I also think we should send a company worth after our lost guys. They been gone so long that I think their stuck some was (or all dead but lets hope not).

The left over marines guard the Heidrun from Tyrion influence and our dead ships from every one. (if we can get the techpriests to help repair them that would be great)