im ready

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I am ready!

My body is ready.

I say we start out with what I suggested the previous thread.


Writing
Sending the expedition to build the shrine/outpost
Create what will be known as The Devouts of Groza, the men and women of the tribe who will apply themselves fully to the war god, spending their days training and growing more powerful in the art of war. They will be our sword and our shield, they will be our blade in the darkness.

We need a proper military, and training for our community to create a militia to rally around the trained soldiers.

bump

>>20990735
That's actually a good image for the thread's OPs. Doesn't show plenty of copper-age-related-stuff, but it's cool.

Ready!

>>20990791
And they shall know no fear.

Alright! Almost gave advice, but I have to remember I'm strictly neutral here! Now then...

Turn Report

Population: 271 (155 elders and children)
Food: 9/15
Morale: 6/15

Known Food Sources: Depleted deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, Crude Instruments, Rough berry liqueur, Tribal Militia

The leaves have begun to turn to their autumn colours and a chill has entered the air

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river

>>20991114

The harvest is good and the fishing plentiful, but between half the haul being sent downriver to the River Brothers, their fishing the salmon before they reach you and the stop on deer hunting, there is far less intake than in previous years.

Your wise ones are on the brink of a major breakthrough. Some members of the tribe have seen them drawing on the inside walls of the huts.

Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
E) Hold a cultural event (specify)
F) Craft specific objects
G) Other
H) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

Writing
Sending the expedition to build the shrine/outpost
Create what will be known as The Devouts of Groza, the men and women of the tribe who will apply themselves fully to the war god, spending their days training and growing more powerful in the art of war. They will be our sword and our shield, they will be our blade in the darkness.

We need a proper military, and training for our community to create a militia to rally around the trained soldiers.

>>20991156

second

>>20991156
Also, I think our Elders are a bit insane.

>>20991147
Writing
Build Chani's shrine [dunno where]
[add something here, 'cause i'm out of ideas]

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>>20991156
It's sounds ok.

D) Finish writing
G) Build Chani's shrine at her special place
F) Have a feast, morale is low!


>Hopefully I'm gonna be here today for longer. I feel like whenever I'm unable to be around, horrible things happen. Prisoners get slaughtered, parts of the tribe want to go cannibal, other parts want to kill the weak children.

Rolled 98

>>20991290

Rolled 46

>>20991324
Meant to say seconding this

Turn Report

Population: 271 (155 elders and children)
Food: 8/15
Morale: 6/15

Known Food Sources: Depleted deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, Crude Instruments, Rough berry liqueur, Tribal Militia, Crude ideograms

The leaves have begun to turn to their autumn colours and a chill has entered the air

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river

>>20990696
You have my sword.

But I have to ask:what happened to using a Bronze age pic for the OP?

>>20991156
Hell yes, warrior monks.

>>20991156
Snapper Groza chosen weapon is spears trying not to be a dick just thought you should know.

hey guys ready to play

>>20991363
It is a time of great celebration and pride within the tribe! In a great brawl before the shrine of Groza, the strongest men and women fight for the honour of being chosen as Devouts of the god, putting their mastery of fighting before all else in their lives. Only the toughest, braves and deadliest fighters join their number.

> How many will the Devouts of Groza number? These individuals will take no further part in ANY action the tribe takes, except from fighting. They will not hunt, build, fish, research or contribute anything, except as a fighting force.

Two more momentous events also occur at this time. The tribe sends a group of men and women up the river, along side Rina, to begin construction of a grand shrine to Chani, on her holy site. It may not be finished for some time, but when it is, it will be a place of great power and worship.

The Wise Ones reveal also that these two acts of devotion to the gods will be remembered for all time. In pictures with the meaning of words and ideas, they show the tribe how they have learned to record history and thoughts, so that others may learn what was never spoken by voice.

>>20991420
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
E) Hold a cultural event (specify)
F) Craft specific objects
G) Other
H) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

>>20991156
I'm generally okay with the idea of a dedicated warrior force, BUT you have to remember, we are only barely 300 able bodied people, a tiny tribe basically, still without dedicated labours. Only jack of all trades.
I'm not sure a tribe this size could sustain that kind of militia yet.

And don't you try and turn this into your death cult or something. Not on my watch!

Rolled 54

>>20991420
I suggest no larger than twenty or so people. Skilled fighters that the levies can rally around.

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>>20991420
No more than 10 for now. It will be a strike force, not meat shield.

>>20991420
I say no more than 20. Maybe even only 10 for now.
These guys will have to be well fed and can't contribute to the tribes progess, so we can't have too many of them. Ain't sustainable.
Also it should be enough to have a little dedicated troop, centered in the middle of our voluntary militia.

>>20991420

20

>>20991428

F) continue building the shrine
D) medicine
A) upstream, opposite from chanis area

I gonna have to say for the army no more than 20
but like 10 would be better and when we have more adults maybe the number will go up.

F) keep building the shrine
C) we need to make rope so gather tall plants
E) hold a party in the name of the love goddess Yeneth with flowers and fine foods

>>20991428
Appoint one clever individual (elder or otherwise) with a good memory to be tribe scribe/chronicler. make records of our customs and our history.

Perhaps also make records of the various spirits, too.

If we have a particularly good storyteller, record his tales, too.

share writing and our stories with the river bros, while we're at it.
>>20991456
>>20991457
Somewhere between these two. These guys are basically going to be kind of like the Weaponthanes in KoDP, I think.

>>20991487
seconded

>>20991490
we haven't discovered anything yet, that we could turn into ropes. might have to ask yeneth about where she found cloth.


>Funny how everyone said 10-20 warriors. Nice

>>20991420
I say 15

>>20991500
We shouldn't just give that away for free. It's valuable knowledge. If at all it should be bound to their further integration into our tribe.

>KoDP
Just what I was thinking of.

>>20991513
That what I was thinking get tall plants so we can make it into rope just by research.

>>20991490
This. We have a love spirit and we should use it!

Rolled 47

>>20991487
Seconding this

Rolled 21

>>20991490
Seconding this

Rolled 63

>>20991581
>>20991592
...Mother fucking reply function! Ignore the first one.

>>20991592
>>20991581
Wait what?

>>20991533
But a shared culture will only speed that process!

What we have are, so far as I can tell, are essentially rituals and feasts as the limit of our culture. Where are the Sagas? The Epics?

Stories have a more significant role in a society's development than you'd think.

>>20991605
I agree, spreading our culture is important, no doubt about that.
I'm just weary of giving away free knowledge. It should at least give us some benefit, like eating up their tribe a bit more.

Rolled 43

>>20991604
This stupid quick reply made me think my first post didn't go through so I reread everything and decided on the choice in the third one, not knowing that this thing had actually posted already.

>>20991635
The benefit is long-term, they will once become part of our society.

>>20991420
I say 25 people. About 10% of our population should be military

>>20991635
Look, if they know how to at least read we can keep in touch by letters, allowing our tribes to keep in contact while letting people get on with the shit they have to do day-to-day, as opposed to sending whole parties down, we can just use a mail boat.

Also it means we don't have to bring them up to speed once we assimilate them, and stops them developing their own written language we'll have to break them of.

>>20991701
Welp, those are points I can't argue against. If we can at least gain a small direct benefit (like snatching some of their work force for some extra manpower for a month) then I'm happy with it.
Just some icing on the cake.

>>20991756
I'm glad I was able to convince you without digging out my copy of The Science of Discworld II and going into discussion of how it might lead to improved scientific thought down the line.

>>20991893
Now we just have to convince the people to start weeding out the unfit children and we're all set for greatness!

:D

>>20991912
*glare* we're not going full spartan.

Rolled 52

>>20991912
God damn it, again with this!?

>>20991701
The ideograms are not enough for complex ideas yet. They are more like hieroglyphs, with each picture meaning a word. It's the very foundation of writing, but really, it's not even a language.

Turn Report

Population: 271 (155 elders and children)
Food: 7/15
Morale: 8/15

Known Food Sources: Depleted deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, Crude Instruments, Rough berry liqueur, Tribal Militia, Crude ideograms

Snow now blankets the land and the river has ice on it. The winter is cold and bitter, as always.

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river

>>20991893
Might come another chance to write a scientific essay to convince me.

>>20991912
Oh noes! The seed has sprouted.

>>20991912
OH GOD SEED KILLED SVENSSON.

>>20991925
>>20991923
The smiley was meant to hint you at the sarcasm in my post. I'm disappointed in you, I was the one that gave multiple replies to that guy.

>>20991944
What ever you say seed.

>>20991959
I absolutely reject your foul accusations!

>>20991944
*glare* I'm still suspicious.

>>20991931
There is no word from up-river, as yet, however it can be reasonably assumed that work on Chani's shrine continues apace.

Some of the tribe set out to poke around for tall plants, on the off-chance they could use them to make rope. Until now, the tribe has only tied lengths of animal sinew together, or used thin, green branches and the results have been... Less than spectacular. The find are likewise unimpressive, the reeds from the swamp upstream being unsuitable.

In Yeneth's name the tribe celebrates and makes merry, even as the snows of winter start to fall! The party after so long proves a great boon to the tribe's spirits, even with the lack of berry liqueur, given that no-one thought to gather the required berries that fall.

EVENT
You may have a chance to make an offering to Yeneth, as there has been some talk of asking her for advice.

>>20992004
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
E) Hold a cultural event (specify)
F) Craft specific objects
G) Other
H) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

>>20991931
continue work on our written language. Keep an eye out for a likely scribe.

see if we can pick out storyteller at some point, too. We need a great artist so we can lay down a culture bomb or two.

Have the Zealots of Groza keep training.

>>20992004
How many people are in the military now?

>>20991934
Yeah...Pratchett and Chums can really sum it up better than I can.

'Humans need fantasy to be human, to be the place where the fallen angel meets the rising ape'.

>>20992013
I would like to ask the priestess of Yeneth what a good offering would be.

F) Continue the shrine
G) trade with the tribe down the river
E)when we find out what to offer to yeneth offer it.

Rolled 55

>>20992074

Seconding

>>20992074
thirded

Also I think we should start studying god lore more intensively, so we can perform better magic besides healing.

>>20992074
Quarted


>Britfag, is it right to assume that we won't have to spend any action points to train our dedicated warriors? Would make sense to reduce action point use for dedicated workers, as soon as we have them.

things just got really quite.

>>20992074

fifthed i guess

>>20992074
I don't think we need to use more points for the shrine, it's implied that it gets built regardless of our input.

I would change that with researching a new, better form of rafts. Since we move fast on water, it would be wise to try to build kayaks or canoes, in order to make water transport even more efficient

>>20992329
I thinking if we can get cloth and rope we could make crude sail boats , and I think it will work like the writing system gotta keep working on it tell it is finished.

>>20992356
Ok, then I put my point into that, and the rest of the things you said in the original post

>>20992130
Actually, you'll need to use an action point to order them into specific training. I'd better add that to the Turn Report... Military summaries. Yikes, this is getting REALLY long..! I'll start next turn. For now...

Turn Report

Population: 255 (118 elders and children)
Food: 7/15
Morale: 8/15

Known Food Sources: Depleted deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, Crude Instruments, Rough berry liqueur, Tribal Militia, Crude ideograms

Snow now blankets the land and the river has ice on it. The winter is cold and bitter, as always.

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river

>>20992390
One day, late in the evening, the river almost seems to shine with light, casting eerie shadows over the village. Shortly thereafter, the workers return. Rina has decided to stay at the newly built shrine, serving her goddess. Chani seems very pleased with her new place of worship however!

> Can't remember if the tribe picked Hilde or Naveen as Yeneth's first priestess. Which we going for, the narcissist, or the lesbian?
Yeneth's priestess claims that the goddess likes beautiful things, particularly gifts that might be given between lovers. Practical things, such as tools, weapons or unadorned clothes have little meaning to Yeneth. She prefers things simply made 'just because'.

A small party, wrapped up thickly against the cold, prepare to leave the village to trade with the River Brothers.

> Will resolve trade after questions for Yeneth

Make your offerings to the goddess and ask your questions. Keep in mind, the goddess may not wish to linger and talk long.

>>20992445
I believe we went for the lesbian

Also we offer some of the carved wooden and fine trinkets. The most beautiful carved ones possible. And some pieces of wood with the newly created hieroglyphs.

>>20992445
We will offer a gift exchange between to lovers than Tyrm and his wife (I don't know her name). Trym giving her a set of pretty flowers and his wife gives a necklace.

Give her bone trinkets. And flowers.

>>20992390
>>20992445

Seriously, how many people are in our military now?
Are you purposefully ignoring the questions or what?

>>20992560
Sorry. The Devoted of Groza number just 10 men and women now.

>>20992620
Is that including the priest?

>>20992620
Huh, that number is a little too low, imo.
I wonder if Groza is pleased by this action.

>>20992652
We can still increase it as we go. Maybe with the next wave of grown-ups.
Also it's better than not having any dedicated warriors.

>>20992680
true
and right now we don't have any enemies

>>20992710
Also we might be able to call the lion tribe in, if someone decides to attack. Not sure though if they would join, don't remember if we made a pact like that.

>>20992807
They do owe us a favor in the future I believe.

>>20992807
I still say that joining the tribes via marriage with them as well is a good idea. They'd probably respect Gerin since he is a warrior and all.

>>20992445
Hey guys, missed tuesday's and almost missed today's (sorry, borderlands 2), but I'm here now!

Ask Yeneth where she got her name from. I don't care what we have to give her, I want an answer already.

>>20992934
Or Trym since he killed one of their best warriors in 1v1 combat

>>20992503
I was pretty sure we went with Hilde? I got the page up right here, and it seems she got more votes; you can check for yourself if you like.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/20920548/

>>20992525
Also, this kind of reminded me of something that's been irking me for a while- shouldn't we have better cultural gifts by now? Like necklaces, or ceremonial robes, or something?

>>20992952
> Finally, an actual question! Also, we're going with Naveen

Naveen accepts the offerings on behalf of her goddess and begins the incantations. It takes some time in solitude, but eventually, the goddess of love emerges from the shrine, looking somewhat ethereal and transparent, as though she were not truly there. She's dressed for winter as well, with thick furs around her. She accepts the offering s gratefully and agrees to answer a few questions.

To the first question put to her; where she got her name, she answers simply, "I was given it by the first humans I asked."

> Ask anything else?

>>20993053
WHERE were these humans?

>>20993053
What is the reward of being a faithful follower of you?

>>20993053
I did not know you wanted us to ask questions.

Are there any other tribes that worship you?

>>20993053
Ooh, and who did she ask and why isn't she with them now?

>>20993053
... care to elaborate miss?

>>20993053
Can we eat these humans?

>>20993292
*smack*

>>20993300
Seconded.

>>20993300
*bites hand*

Fine, what ever. When we start starving, besieged on all sides, and it's our tribe's darkest hour you'll be happy I'm around.

>>20993329
Yea so we have some one to eat.

>>20993329
We will eat you first. You won't be so happy to have suggested it, then.

>>20993343
Hey, don't look at me like that. I've done a lot of good for the tribe. It just so happens I also advocate death gods and just a tad of cannibalism and god killing.

>>20993354
like what? *licks lips*

Dear God this is infectious!

>>20993292
> Ignored and Refrek gets beaned on the head by a small pebble for failing to be funny.

>>20993088
"There are other tribes that worship me, yes. Love can be found anywhere you care to look, particularly when people do not have to spend all their lives fighting to live."

>>20993086
"That is simple!" she smiles beautifully, "Those who worship me are blessed in the greatest way possible. So long as someone can find love, they will live happy all their days and I help them to find that happiness. Those that worship me will have my blessing and happiness and contentment will follow them."

>>20993082
>>20993134
"The humans that named me are quite a distance from here," she smiles, "Down the river and along the edge of the great sea. I have passed by many other peoples on my travels and have spread my blessing to as many as I can." She looks suddenly upset as she remembers something. Even if she is a goddess of love, she is still a goddess and her upset is somewhat intimidating, "Some refused to heed me, or offered me nothing and so them, I pay no heed to, nor shall they have my blessings."

She looks as though she is ready to leave. It is likely you will only be able to ask a little more.

>>20993424
Wait, so she is a goddess of luck too? But the luck is contingent on love?

Lets see if we can get her to draw a math, and I have one more question

Where did you get that strange material you wear?

>>20993424
Will you teach use how to make such fine cloth like have?

>>20993450
Like you have?

>>20993424
We should contact those other tribes that worship her.
We will already have something in common so it will be easy to have good relations

>>20993446
"My garments were an offering by the ones that named me! I don't know how they made them." she lifts her dress slightly in one hand, regarding herself, "They give me many gifts like this, all in different and bright colours! It pleases me, so I give them my blessing of happiness! Likewise, that bowl was an offering from them too."

With that, Yeneth leaves, fading into nothingnesss.

What will the trading party heading down-river bring?

>>20993599
Time to see how far we can go down river before our rafts break. Also if we are going to go exploring we should wait till spring.

>>20993674
I think we should bring our new writing system along with some one to teach them the writing system and a written account of our gods to show how awesome they are.

>>20993728
Maybe a big wooden board with the writings on it or something like a tiny shrine.
A spot of influence we plant on their turf that they can admire.

britfag you asleep?

Well, I'm off for today, Brit seems asleep.
Thanks once again for the nice thread and see you on Saturday I suppose.

Good night

>>20993728
>>20993803
That's really more of a cultural exchange than trading... Pfft; semantics. As there's no other suggestions, we'll go with this.

Shivering from the cold, several of the Wise Ones board a raft, armed with knowledge. They bring with them the work of over a week of dedicated carving; a large, wooden board with the history of the tribe and its gods inscribed upon it in pictograms.

They are warmly received by the River Brothers, especially by Trym's new in-laws. The Wolfsbane and his wife joined the expedition and are welcomed like family, the hospitality extending to the Wise Ones too.

Though there is some initial confusion at the idea of the ideograms, the River Brothers start to grasp it eagerly after a few days. The idea of gods though meets with more difficulties. For some reason, the elders of the River Brothers all agree to have as little to do with the gods as possible. They reason that they have come this far on their own and need no gods to watch out for them.

The party leaves after a time, having made some headway in teaching the idea of writing to the River Brothers, but culturally, they have made little headway.

>>20993988
>>20994107
> I was only waiting for responses! This'll be it for tonight though. Have to leave you on a cliffhanger...

EVENT
As the winter drags on, the snow starts to fall in unusually large quantities. Great drifts pile up against the walls, the roofs groan under the strain of supporting the white powder. Even setting foot outside a hut means pushing through snow lying nearly waist-deep! The situation reaches its worst when a young man who went to fetch firewood is found dead, only his hand unburied by a sudden fall of snow from the roof. To make matters worse, the few lookouts brave enough to sit out in the snow report seeing a shadowy figure moving at the edge of the treeline, even coming into the farms, only ever showing up when the snowfall is at its very thickest. The constant snowfall shows no sign of stopping soon and then one day... The village gate is found open, held wide by an inexplicably deep bank of snow.

>>20994249
We have found the god of death, the master of the ice and snow, the cold hand in the night. Darkness all encompassing.

Also, I saw we invest in researching snow shoes.

I just couldn't resist checking again
>>20994176
>They have come this far without gods
Haha, they nearly starved to death and would have been wiped out by the copper tribe if we didn't best them.

>>20994249
Again with the shadowy figures around the village! Okay then, see you next time Brit!

>>20994249
That's all for tonight folks!

Next thread will be on SATURDAY at 16:30 EST, same as it always is! I hope you enjoyed tonight and will be there! Have a good one!

>>20994249
You have been hinting about something during winter I didn't know when it was going to hit us.