>>21365172
“Alright kids. I’m going to take care of some business. You guys stay here with Eregoj at the library. This should only take a few minutes.” Dad said, and then he just left us sitting in the Library.

Seconds passed, Eregoj spoke up. “So anyone want to hear about the story of how the Kanin people united to fight off the evil pirates?”

“Come on Roth, let’s get out of this snore fest.” I said grabbing him by the arm and pulling him in the direction of the door.

“Young lady, I must insist that you stay here. Your father made that much clear.”

I made a gesture I had seen some of the knights make at him. “You can’t stop me ghosty.”

“You know he’s going to tell your dad, right?”

“Not if we hide the crystal. Somewhere where he won’t find it. Can you get the crystal, Please?” I asked making big googly eyes at Rothas.

The crystal was hanging from a chandelier in the middle of the room. High from the ground.

“I still don’t think this is a good idea.” Rothas said as he flew up to the crystal and yanked it out.

Its not fair, it’s like everyone but me can fly.

“Don’t worry, we got this.” I said grabbing the crystal from his hands and sticking it in my bag. “There now we can have fun.”

We exited the library and were now on the streets of Teegee.

“So what do we do first, Roth? I vote for adventure.”

“Someone at the Rogue Trader might have some stories to share.”

“Right, to the Rogue Trader it is.”

We made our way over to it. We snuck in past Alice and we went looking for someone who had seen some adventure. We were just past the first few tables when we were stopped by familiar voices.

>>21365222
“I wonder how Jim’s doing right now. Meina told us she’d make him watch some of the kids also.” I heard Auntie Belle say.

“I hope she didn’t leave Jewel with him. You know she’s going to find a way to escape the moment he turns his back to her.”

“Got that right,” I thought as we hide under one of the tables.

“I hope the kids don’t cause too much trouble.”

“Nothing that we can’t handle, can’t be as bad as a giant psychopathic robotic war dragon. Now come on, this was supposed to be a day for just the two of us. The kids will be fine.”

I whispered to Rothas, “What was that about a war dragon?”

“I think it has something to do with that floating city they took us to.”

“Come on lets get out of here, it’s too risky.”

We snuck out of the Rogue Trader. As we were walking down the road we saw Mr. Fearghaile walking by. An idea popped into my head.

“Let’s follow him.” I said pointing to him.

Rothas rolled his eyes, “Why?”

“Everyone calls him No Fun behind his back. Lets make sure he has a little fun~”

“This can only end badly.”

“Partypooper. It will be fine, trust me.”

“I think trusting you will be the end of me. But lead on, someone needs to make sure you don’t hurt yourself.”

We followed Mr. Fearghaile to a small park where Mrs. Fearghaile was waiting with a picnic basket. We hid aways away behind a row of bushes.

“Do you even have a plan?” Rothas asked.

“I took this from my mother’s closet, it makes people act funny when they drink it.” I said holding up a small bottle I had pilfered from her collection. “You act as a lookout and I’ll put it in their drinks.” I went invisible, one of the few spells mom and dad had taught me.

>>21365285
I carefully made my way up to them. They had set everything up and were now sitting on a blanket just talking to each other. Boring adult stuff. I carefully poured half the vial into his drink then the other half into her drink and then sneaked back to where Rothas was waiting.

“See, no problem.”

“Yet.”

We sat there and watched for a few seconds and then they both took a sip of their drinks. Then Mr. Fearghaile tackled Mrs. Fearghaile and they rolled around on the grass.

“Well our work here is done. Let’s go spread fun to more people.” I said pulling Rothas after me.

As we left we heard Mr. Fearghaile shout out. “I’m going to ride you like a yellow taxi!”

“Hey, Rothas. What’s a taxi?”

“Not a clue.”

We were walking through one of the housing areas. When we passed by Olin’s house. The door was wide open.

“Come on Roth, lets go say hi.”

“Maybe Olin has a story he’ll share with us.”

“Maybe.” I said as I went inside.

The house was rather quiet and dark. I heard snoring coming from the bedroom. The door to which was wide open. There were a few empty bottle on the floor. Rothas pulled me towards the library.

“Don’t interrupt their nap.”

“I won’t, but it would be rude to leave without leaving a note that we were here?” I said, I could just about feel the glint in my eye. It was clear Rothas saw it when he sighed.

I pulled a crayon and some papers out of my bag. I wrote some runes on them. I had learned a lot about runes from mom. She had made sure I knew all of them.

>>21365301
“Here help me stick these in the books.” I said, thrusting a handful of paper to Rothas.

“What are these supposed to do?”

“Talk and fly and stuff. So the books can deliver the message when they wake up.”

“Close the door when we leave.”

“Of course. They really shouldn’t leave the door open. It’s dangerous.” I said sticking papers in books.

We ran out of paper and then we left. I closed the front door behind me.

We were walking through the market when I remembered that we still needed to hide Eregoj. “Roth. I don’t know where we are going to hide Erey. Any bright ideas, use your smarts and help me out a bit.”

“Uh... I got nothing. Sorry Jewel, drawing a blank.”

“Course. Mom always says that men always let you down right when you need them the most. Guess I’m going to have to take the reigns as she says.”

I went over to a well and dropped the crystal in to it.

“There that should be more than enough.”

We spent a time running around the city having fun. We were playing near all the churches. I had chased Rothas into an alleyway in a game of tag. When I bumped into another kid. A bit older than me.

>>21365321
“Sorry ‘bout that.” I said.

“Hey, you’re that daughter of the demon whore and that perverted freak. My Pa says you're the kind that’s ruining Teegee. I should teach you and you’re kind a lesson. You monsterous freaks.”

“Bugoff, I don’t have a problem with you.”

“Too bad. Cuz I do.” He said, punching me in the face. I didn’t even have time to dodge.

I went sprawling to my feet, a couple other kids gathered around. Rothas pushed his way through the gathering kids and kicked my assailant in the crotch. The boy doubled over grabbing at his balls. After that a fight broke out, me and Roth versus five other kids.

“CEASE!” My dad’s voice rang out. In the blink of an eye we were all floating three feet off the air. “It looks like there is a lot of talking in my immediate future. Don’t delude yourselves. I know all of your parents. This kind of behavior is not what Teegee is about. As for you Jewel, we will have a talk latter.”

He let Rothas down and dragged the rest of us floating along. We stopped by each of the kids houses dropping them off there. Finally It was just the three of us.

“Can I be let down now?”

“-Sigh-, Jewel. You can’t do this kind of thing. Yes, I suppose. There will be punishment in your future. I think helping Eregoj out at the library for a few months should be more than fitting.”

“About that...”

“I know.” He held out his palm and the crystal floated out of his bag and hovered over his hand.

Eregoj appeared. He didn’t say anything but he looked mad and hurt at the same time. I felt really bad about that. He had always told some of the best stories.

We took Eregoj back to the library and then went back home.

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>>21365172
You guys somehow got 32 threads about monster girl cuddling and horizontal tangoing?
That's kinda sad...

>>21365336
Meina had been teaching the other girls how to sew and stuff, talk about boring.

“Well I think that’s more than enough for today. Why don’t all of you go play in the pool. Jim watch them would you.”

“Lifeguard powers activate. Come on kids to the POOL!”

“Please don’t wander off this time. I don’t mind looking out for Jewel, but sometimes it’s nice to have fun without worrying.” Rothas said.

“Ouch kid. Also hardly wandering off. I had to talk to the council. I left you two with a responsible adult, you two wandered off.” Jim said, ruffling Rothas’ hair.

““Eregoj may be responsible, but he can’t do much to stop Jewel.”

“He could have. He’s apparently just a big push over. I already talked to him about that when I was looking for you two. He could easily have pulled the levitating trick I did.”

“OK,” Then he grabbed my hand, “Let’s go get ready for the pool.”

A few minutes later we were changed and out in the pool. Dad was sitting in a chair with a pair of sunglasses on. Watching us play and yelling at us to knock off the running and trying to drown each other.

>>21365373

There is more to it than that... It's gone from that to a weird sort of... group world-building project. With Adventure! Some people make it a little racy, but others just want to write in the setting we created.

>>21365373
Nah. Everyone else does serious work. Me, I just write smut to keep things light hearted.

>>21365397
I take slight offense at that. I just want to write in the setting we created also. I also want to make sure it stays stable and I want to make sure we can all get along in thread and canon wise.

>>21365389
Anya and Ciel were picking on Rothas again.

“Hey, Hey. What did you do with Jewel today?” Ciel said excitedly, nearly slipping with all her jumping about.

“Um... Did you kiss?” Anya said, blushing deeply.

Rothas was backing away from his sisters, looking for a way to escape.

I decided to try and help him out. “Rothas, eww. He’s like a brother to me. I would never kiss him.”

“See? We don’t do that kind of thing.” Rothas said.

“Aw... You two are no fun. Let’s go play with Destiny, Anya.” They swam off to where Destiny was doing backflips in the pool.

“Thank you Jewel, I don’t know how much more I could have taken.”

“You need to learn to stand up for yourself, you goof.” I said giving him a gentle push. “But no prob, and thank you for earlier.”

“You need someone to protect you too.”

“Now shush, any more of this talk and your sisters will be right back here giving you hell.”

Rothas nodded, and we went chasing after Destiny as a game of Marco Polo had started up.

The end... for now.

>>21365443

I didn't mean nothing by it, I was just saying that yes, sometimes that's the plot of some of these stories.

>>21365443
>>21365397
Alright, world filled with adventure and future monster girl concubines, I can see the appeal.
Not as much of an issues as I thought there would be.

>>21365473
Like I said only slightly. Ain't no big deal. I may just be overly defensive since a certain pirate.

>>21365524
I can see how being turned into a girl may be unappealing to some, but I would never force anyone to do it to their own character.
I just think it's funny anyway.

Alright, everyone ready for part 2 of no arm: Electric boogaloo?

>>21365584
Not sure how that came up. But I think its a great place to go. The goddess Tera gets a chance to screw Jim over some more. I'm freaking doing it.

>>21365611
Hell yes

Giovanni awoke with a start, staring up at a thatched roof. He moved his legs, which were sore beyond his comprehension, feeling the softness of bed sheets surrounding him. He was confused and totally discombobulated, not knowing why he was here, or why he hurt so much. He leaned himself up to get a better view of the room when he began to feel dizzy. He put his left hand down to prop himself up in the bed, except… he fell over. Face in a pillow, he raised his arms to push himself up and again, he fell over to the left. It all came flooding back to him, his experience on the table. He reluctantly looked to his left shoulder, and smashed the bed with his right fist. It was gone.

He cried out in anger as two people jumped into the room to try and assist him, trying to get him to lie back down.

“YOU BASTARDS! YOU TOOK MY ARM! YOU TOOK MY AAAAAAAARM!” Giovanni yelled as he thrashed about.

>>21365654

“We had too! It would have only caused you complications; we needed to do it to save your life!” One of them spoke.

Giovanni stopped thrashing around, he recognised the voice.

“You… you were the one who did it..” Giovanni spoke, pointing at the man.

He began to get up again as the two tried to restrain him. He gave a deft elbow to the jaw of the man to his right and head-butted the man to his left, who tumbled to the ground. Giovanni stood up, only wearing his woolen pants, all the stitching and bruising visible on his exposed skin. The man crawled to the corner of the wall near the door and was trapped by the encroaching enraged man. He once again began pointing down to the man; rage overtaking his mind.

“You took my arm. It was you.”
“We HAD to! You would have died if we had left it there!”
“I don’t know what you keep saying, nothing was wrong with me!” Giovanni shouted, tears forming on his eyes.

>>21365670

He was about to pummel the man, who had raised his arms in an attempt to cover his face when the door burst open. Evette had ran into the room, wearing a simple cream coloured tunic and green pants, her eyes red from days of sobbing. Giovanni slowly turned his head up to see her, and his anger melted away, and so, the only thing keeping him upright. He tumbled to the floor and Evette rushed to his side.

“Giovanni! You are alive! Oh, I thought I had lost you, I thought I had lost you, my love,” She wept, wrapping her arms around his neck.

Giovanni was confused; he did not know what had happened to him, or why he was in some house besides his own. The doctor had gotten up, and began to lift up his aide that Giovanni had elbowed.

“Even in this state, a man who is not to be trifled with…” The aide said, holding onto one side of his jaw.

Giovanni felt hands move to his cheeks as they turned his head to the lips of Evette, who gave him a deeply passionate kiss. Her Emerald eyes shiny with her tears of joy greeted him as she pulled away. She rubbed his face and held him close to her chest, slowly rocking him back and forth.

“Wh…what happened to me?” Giovanni said, the voice of a scared and tattered man replacing his usual solid tone.
“Sssh, don’t worry honey, I’m here for you. It’s my turn to protect you.” Evette cooed, running a hand through his hair. His tears running down her hand as she comforted him.

>>21365676

It was another week before the healers had given Giovanni clearance to walk freely amongst the people as his critical state had ended. He was not used to his new being, always reaching for things with his non-existent left arm, and all his shirts needed to be hemmed and pinned. Even his beloved armor was augmented for his new physique. He spent most of his time sullen and withdrawn from people, even after the towns people had heard what happened from the little boy. He was regarded as a hero and a savior, but he just meekly thanked them and plodded along his way, aimlessly wandering around the village. He felt pain in his left arm, “Phantom pains” as they were called in the old realm, and he wondered if they would ever go away as he made his way back to the home that Evette was staying at.
“How are you feeling today?” She spoke, grabbing his hand and giving it a gentle squeeze.
“…Better.” Giovanni spoke, staring down at the floor as he had since he began to walk around.
Evette’s ears perked up at his comment, half hearted as it was.

“That’s excellent, I’m so glad to hear that!” She swooned, standing up and planting a kiss on his cheek, catching a bit of the stitching in her mouth. She stopped for a moment, taking her free hand up to his face and tracing the various stitches down the contours of his skin. He had one above his eye, arcing down across his nose, another from his cheekbone to his jaw, and one on his chin. She followed them intently with her finger, then moved to her own face and said:

>>21365690

“You’re just like me now…” she spoke with a distant look in her eyes, remembering the moments she gained her own marks on her face.

This time it was Giovanni’s moment to be the comforting one. He moved his hand in hers to her face and smiled for the first time in a week.

“I’m not as pretty as you though.” Giovanni said, a painful wink accompanying his comment.
“There he is, I’ve been seeing a broken man for more than a week.” Evette responded, blushing at the comment.

It was the first time that Giovanni noticed the ring on her finger, the skin around it slightly rosed from what must have been endless twirling of nervousness while he was being “mended”. Giovanni gulped hard as he looked at the ring and thought to himself.

“Did she accept it then? Am I married? Would she want to be married to a useless, 1 armed man…?”

She noticed his gaze and opened her mouth in surprise.

“Oh! I nearly forgot!” she said, sitting Giovanni down on another chair. “It’s beautiful Giovanni, absolutely gorgeous.”

>>21365478
yup, most people write more about ADVENTURE then anything else, and aside from gearheart most sex stuff has been off hand remarks, not the focus.

going back over my stuff i see:
nearly freezing to death only to be saved by a lamia and later helped by a wolf girl
meeting a dragon and accidentally busting a slave trader while looking for sulfur
learning to use lightning magic/day at the beach
battle against orks featuring siege weapons
setting up a trade agreement in the far north and taming polar bear-wolf-goat things i named waste goats
purposefully getting struck by lightning to make my magic stronger
character description by sir gary
training new recruits gone wrong
training new recruits using the set from the show wipeout
battle with a fallen angel part 1
exploring flying dragon theme park and adopting a dragon egg
dragon daughter's adventure for a lair
one paragraph of fleshing out an npc
battle against a fallen angel part 2
golem balloon and the beginnings of an air force

>>21365699

There was a small silence for a moment until Giovanni spoke “So… is that a yes?”
“Yes. Yes yes yes yes! Giovanni, there has never been something or someone I’ve loved more in my entire life. I would gladly take the mantle of being your wife.” She proclaimed, still rubbing a thumb on the backside of his hand that held hers.

“You mean… not even after… with me right now?” Giovanni spoke.
“Giovanni. You saved my life six times over that night, and you nearly killed yourself in the process. By all accounts you should be a dead man, and I should have been a widow on my wedding night. But you pulled through, and even in your current state, I love you all the same.” She responded, a serious tone etching her voice, her eyes glinting in the sunlight that filtered through the window.
She hugged him as they stood up, squeezing him tightly as they came together.
“Do not worry my love, we will find something for you, even if it takes us to the ends of the world.” She assured him. “When we get home, I’m sure someone will know what to do.”

It was another four days before they began their venture back home once again. Giovanni and Evette were actually travelling with a small group of the Villages citizens that wanted to move to TeeGee. Seven elves and 6 humans were part of the little convoy as it made its way back towards TeeGee. Above all, Giovanni was just glad his sword arm remained… “Attached” to his body, though the inability to use his bow saddened him deeply. But the trek was without issue, and after one and a half months of absence, the Captain of the Guard saw the tops of the Castle he loved so much.

>>21365706

Aaaand done. For now.

>>21365717
sorry for interupting you by ten seconds

>>21365790

Nah it's cool.

Now begins All Hallow's Eve (to those in the Midwest anyway) so begin the Zombie Jamboree.

Any thoughts, comments, gripes, injunctions, prayers, incantations, cursing, hexing, wondering, philosophizing or other-worldly advice on my last little bit there?

>>21365930
Nope. Still thinking about how much fun I had writing about the adventures of little kids. I'm now wondering how much fun it'll be writing about the adventures of teenagers.

>>21365972
just remember that with dragons if the mother is a dragon you get a dragon rather than a half dragon (at least from what you proposed anyway, iirc), so if belle knocked up kuro that kid would most likely have to deal with all their friends growing up before them

>>21365972
If handled badly painful. If handled like we did the other one shouldn't be to bad.

>>21366035
We thought around that. Found the perfect match for him.

>>21366035
Dragons mature faster than any of the humanoid races, or that's how I've done it, and spending most of their time in a humanoid form slows down the growth rate.
(Humanoid body requires less food, so you won't feel the need to eat as much as you would if you were in dragon form. Transformations immediately bring back the appetite, even if you immediately go back to a smaller form.)

Of course, you don't have to follow this. It's just my take on it.

>>21366049
>Found the perfect match for him.
>him
i sure hope this perfect match doesn't happen to be ember. i see myself as that one dad that cleans his shotgun/spear/railgun when she has boys over

>>21366210
dragon biology does not into logic, that's why there are fucktons of different dragons with different breaths and different bodies, each one is unique. if yours just happen to age a bit on the fast side for dragons then that's your choice as their author

>>21366244
Funny you should mention cleaning your weapon of choice. I mentioned that to Lem and Fluffy and they had never heard of it. And no its not Ember.

>>21366244
Their parents are best buddies, so not Ember.

>>21366264
I apply my logic in strange ways.

>>21366265
I clean my guns, just not in that manner. Mostly because I have no children, or young sisters or nieces who live near me.

>>21366316
Or never dated a girl who had one of those dads or listened to country music

>>21366409
I listen to country music, and I've heard the song a number of times.

>>21366420
Ok then last time you didn't remember the song. Then again it was really late by my time and super late by yours

>>21366448
Sleeping while still awake.

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Have a small dragon.

I'm going to try and get something done this afternoon. I have a few ideas I'm going to try out, so this will either end badly or go well.

I just saw the sequence of pictures of sir Iris.

That was amazing.

Got family stuff to do today, so probably won't get any work done. As of right now only Alaric has spoken out for tagging along on the raid, which is planned for some time mid-Frostfall 3AA.

>>21369474
I'll tag along too, assuming there are no objections.

>>21371502
Can I be a nrf?

> Toroci v equipped s
My weapon of choice what ever that is

>>21365706
We getting automail?

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>>21367669
And another.

>>21371549
Probably.

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>>21374103
But what if it was a blade arm?

>>21374299
Then you wouldn't be able to rub elf ears.

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>>21374384
You speak words of wisdom.

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>>21374384

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>>21374384
>>21374403
>>21374428
>Rub elf ears with free hand
>Fight with other
Only casuals don't extreme multitask.

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>>21374507
But then you're only rubbing one elf ear.

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>>21374541
And what do you expect me to gently caress with an artificial arm?

>>21374575
That depends on just how fine the manipulation skills on the prosthetic are.

If all else fails, I'm sure Lily could think of something if you're having trouble figuring out what else to do with one.

possible limits to keep automail from getting too powerful

>hard to make
we're talking about making artificial nerves out of wire, this is roughly the equivalent to making a modern computer by hand, right down to every last wire. not many people will be able to make them (though attaching it may be able to be done by a skilled enough healer) and they'll take a long time to make, which will lead to them being very expensive, and rare enough that you may not be able to just buy them (leading to adventure)

>hard to maintain/fragile
when you exert yourself too hard your muscles tear some and your body gets to work healing them. when you put too much stress on a machine with lots of very small, intricate parts, those parts will break, but you won't have the luxury of natural healing, and considering the complexity of the automail you're options are to let it stay broken, pay someone (most likely lots) to fix it, or fix it yourself, which would take a lot of studying (i'm thinking a year or two bare minimum, that's with studying real hard and being a fast learner)

>no functions that aren't already present in a human arm
the brain simply wouldn't be able to command new forms of movement since it wasn't designed to use these new things, and didn't develop alongside them attaching something new during the formative years could produce results, but i'd avoid that for the sake of staying noble bright and not wanting to dismember children . however, simpler things could be made, along with minor attachments, though no new forms of control would be given (you could have a sword instead of a hand, or a concealable sword attached to the back of your arm, but "drawing" it would still have to be done by hand, no wolverineing them out)

>painful as fuck
you're clamping/soldering your nerves, that's gonna hurt to have done

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>>21375088
You could learn how to magic your arm into a blade, but you'd probably break it if you aren't extremely careful when doing it.
I think an Elric style blade wouldn't damage the inner workings, since your just modifying the shape of the casing slightly.

>>21375136
magicking the outer layer to have a blade on it probably wouldn't do much damage, swinging it around in combat and using it to parry blows would

you can put the inner workings of a laptop into a case with sharp edges, but if you take a hammer to it it'll still get messed up. if you want the durability for combat you're going to have to give up the delicate parts needed for fine motor controls

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>>21375172
>>21375136
>>21375088
>>21374665
>>21374575
>>21374541
>>21374507
>>21374428
>>21374403
>>21374384
>>21374299

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AN ARM. NO WEAPONS.

It's just going to be a replacement arm, no offensive or defensive magics, no inspector gadget style omni-tools, nothing. It's only function is going to be an arm.

>>21375088

Also, to address your quandaries here, this is what I had in mind.

>Hard to make
Yes, very. My plans are to utilize various different people to make it work. Gnomes, dragons perhaps, even the dwarves. Basically, no one culture could do it themselves, I need the best from everyone.

>Hard to maintain/fragile
Possibly, but definitely not fragile, its a damn metal arm. My idea is not directly JUST automail, its more of a... "raise inanimate object" spell woven into a prosthetic that works off of the users internal power. So it isn't super advanced robotics.

>no functions that aren't already present in a human arm
I just need an arm man. It's not going to be anything else.

>painful as fuck
I'm sure it will be.

>>21375389
If you want a new arm, the people in The Hole would be more than willing to take a crack at it. Wilhelm would fucking love to make a prosthetic arm, and considering The Hole is made of Outrealmer engineers and their apprentices I imagine he's not alone. Silver would also help, but how much of that is her geas I'm not sure.

Mind, making a prosthetic limb is tough stuff. You could make a (primitive) mechanical limb that works off the shoulder blades, or go for something more complex. That would probably entail wiring the arm up to the body's nerves, and would probably require magic of some kind.

Oh, and they're going to be very sad when they learn that they aren't allowed to stuff any extra features into the arm. They'd probably put everything from a knife to a fucking Cuisinart in there if you let them.

>>21375389
>>21375550
When replying to a post, I really should read all of it first.

Anyway, what you have sounds good. (Though you're going to disappoint/inspire a lot of engineers.)

>>21375389
i'm not putting the limits in just for you, you i'm not worried about. this is just in setting stuff to explain why not everyone has it and to help not break the setting by keeping someone from writing up the inspector gadget style stuff mixed with every weapon known to mankind

>>21375626
Like scissors of god slaying?

>>21375626

Thus why I planned on having so many different races work on it, lend their own expertise. Magic from Dragons, Mechanics from Gnomes, and craftsmanship of Dwarves, etc etc.

The cost is going to be ludicrous, but it will be done.

um, hey... I only just discovered this, and am currently reading through the old threads.

I was curious? Has anybody done any designing of the layout of the castle, lands, but most of all infrastructure of /TG/ held lands? I have some ideas for writing on the stuff, but want to make sure I'm not being redundant at all.

Infrastructure is kinda a passion of mine.

>>21375751

I like you. Let's be friends.

I've always wanted to sketch up the castle layout and the village that surrounds it.

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>>21375751
None whatsoever as far as I know. We just have a map of the local region.

>>21375751
southeast of the main town has farmlands and a river and we rely heavily on trade, but other than that i can't think of anything

>>21375751
You'll have to account for the fact that Teegee doesn't have urban planning so much as we erected a bunch of stuff in record time.

According to some of the older stuff, there are a few important places, like the Rogue Trader, the bazaar/marketplace and the University (calculated to be around 6-7 km away from the town proper) which itself has its own layout.

>>21375782
guess, I'll bring up my name... might take a while and be really shitty... jesus, where did I leave my old drafting equipment... not back in Louisiana? Damn... think it is. I'll just see about getting a cruddy architecture program perhaps? Or I'll just go old school with graph paper, pencil, and straight edge.

hmmm... this is going to be a really weird fusion of medieval architecture (cause that's what /tg/ was built out of) and Roman infrastructure (cause goddamn, could those Romans make simple, and super efficient, methods of getting materials from Point A to Point B).

Any objections? I want to finish reading through the threads first before I begin drafting anything of course, so I don;'t miss anything mentioned. But from what I've gathered from the wiki and google docs this is kinda how I've been imagining.

>>21375834
there's also gearheart's castle to the south and my new little valley/giant colosium in the dwarven ranges

>>21375834
>You'll have to account for the fact that Teegee doesn't have urban planning so much as we erected a bunch of stuff in record time.
well that won't do o_O; city planning is essential, otherwise you get disease, traffic blocking, abandoned areas, slums, and problems with both workflow and infrastructure.

Of course the initial structures would be as you said, but SOMEONE must have been considering these things once base survival was no longer on the mind as it were?

>>21375855
Cool. Bear in mind that the there were some ruins around from the begining that everyone built up at first.

>>21375871
>there's also gearheart's castle to the south and my new little valley/giant colosium in the dwarven ranges
hooo boy... Okay, making a list... and will probably add to this as I go on.

>>21375890
>Cool. Bear in mind that the there were some ruins around from the begining that everyone built up at first.
will do. As I said, not actually going to set down pen to paper until I finish reading the threads, obviously don't want to leave anything out. I got to head out now, but I'll be back later and try to figure this out, and will get some REALLY rough maps (like circles with lines drawn between them) done based on what you guys have just described to me.

>>21375878
Keep in mind that a good portion of the city was... retroactively condemned around 4 AA. I imagine that was a good opportunity for optimizing the city's layout.

Anyway, I am excite.

The family grows

Oglosh - Oglosh

>>21376038
Lee huh? you related to Salmon, your laugh sounds just like his

>>21376059
We grew up in the same spawning pool

>>21376030
A map after the 4 A.A. reconstruction would be perfect.

>>21376105
>had a pool growing up
lucky bastard

>>21376212
Be jealous of mine and GearHeart's kids.

>>21376240
>swimming in a recently made artifical lake.
Nope, sorry, not interested in stepping into four feet of slimey silt-muck.

Well, here I am again.
Intending to write more.
This time, I hope to at least minimize the number of fuck-ups, since looking back, I can see some of the mistakes I made...but since I can't retcon those, I'll have to explain them, I suppose.
and figure out which waifus are next...

>>21376134
Sounds good. <adds that to his notes>
4 AA was the orc invasion yes?

>>21376742
about half way through i believe yes

>>21376288
You underestimate the power of magic. Also the lake feeds the water to the pool. It would be silly to swim in the lake, there be monsters in there.

OOoookay... this is what I got on my list so far.

1) Main Town contains following:
--->Castle Waifu? (or did that get renamed following 4 A.A.?), which will need it's own designing and that is going to be a bitch to do... need to look up castle designs to figure out a base structure then expand upon it.
--->The Rogue Trader (probably quite near to the market, maybe a town square type of thing)
--->The Bazaar, probably straddling the major road that would lead from the trade road right up to Castle Waifu.
---->University area, probably a self contained community within eyeshot of the edges of the town but not directly connected to it. Will take a few more years of urban sprawl.

We're dependent upon trade correct? Road infrastructure will be important. I'd not be surprised if we went and upgraded to Roman road designs once we got help from dwarves or another architecturally inclined race.

Port/dock/thing along the river, probably an important warehouse area for trade. We'd also probably have a warehouse district in the city itself, not to mention the storage silos inside the castle proper.

-Outer Territories:
--->Gearheart's Castle (need more details on this one, but I'll find it eventually as I read)
--->Lyrik's Colosseum in the dwarven ranges, probably connected by afforesaid roads.

I think that's everything listed in this thread.

>Captcha: ngiiian steel, that gives me an idea for something but I got no idea what.

>>21377098
Now for some reasonable ideas...

Things we'll probably need in the city proper:
->Water purification, this is ludicrously simple with out level of technology. Water Treatment for the most basic contaminents is simple to do and easy to put in place, you just need elbow grease and water tightness.
->Warehouses
->Sewers? How deep is the water table? Sewers would be impossible with our tech level without, for example, dwarven help, and it would take a lot of work to set up after the fact, possible, just not fun.
->Urban areas probably follow classic Burg patterns. A mix of shop and living space, with shops on the ground floor and living areas on the second floor. Would probably be gratuitous numbers of bunk houses, and temporary living buildings given the amount of traffic /TG/ seems to receive.

Objections? Ideas? Other things we'll need?

>>21377108
I doubt we'd have sewers. The water table must be fairly high if we can dig out a standing lake, and we wouldn't have the resourses to undertake such a project untill after we've already built up a lot.

>>21377144
I thought the lake was a ways away from Teegee, though. GearHeart posted an edited map a few threads back that had its location.

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>>21377098
i vote star castle

also, no roads leading to the colosseum yet, was reached by flying but i set a golem to build a path after clearing away the overgrowth (dwarves live almost entirely under the mountain so they don't have much use of above ground paths, also ancient and possibly made by dragons)

>>21377322
that is quite possibly one of the coolest castle layouts I've seen.
What's it from?

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>>21377423
this
sorry, don't know what the actual place is called, just know star castles seem like good defense

>>21377490
Oh...thought it was used in some fantasy setting or something. The color and look of the picture reminded me of those rulebook background images.

>>21377144
The water table being high doesn't preclude sewers, it just makes them... difficult, to say the least. It's possible with prefabricated pipes of stone and concrete, I bet we could manage it with gnome and dwarf help

>>21376105
Lee-jinn, huh? Sounds like a reasonable sort.
>inb4 does this one have a soul

>>21377098
>>21377108
Checking back in from my exam revision.
Government facilities, assume policing crime=guardsmen & Knights, firefighters need a place, and at some point clinics aren't going to cut it, so you'll need a hospice/hospital/apothecary.
Would a museum be part of the University district, or private sector? Cause the way that adventure leads, it's going to need a LOT more space. Thinking Smithsonian or British here.
Sewers would probably run into the catacombs at some point. Need to make sure you steer clear of bodies and other underground hazards, lest you awaken something terrible. I'm sure they'd understand with the proper permits.

That's all for now, back to the reading table.

>>21377322
>>21377490

I'm going to have to say "No" for a very important reason.

Star Castles came about following the advent of gun powder and the wide spread use of cannons. Yes, we're trying to kick start that, but the problem is that the star shape is to maximize the number of kill zones and over lap of firing ranges for each cannon.

For traditional medieval warfare? It would be DISASTEROUS

All of those walls are VERY short, to provide the maximum amount of CANNON and MUSKET in a given range.

All of those corners are BEGGING for sappers and battering rams to tear them to bits. You know why you rarely see square towers on the outer edges of medieval castles and -always- see round turrets on the corners of the curtain and keep walls? Corners are structural weaknesses, very easy to break down. Rounding them out prevents that.

Now then... There's -nothing- to say the central keep, the base outpost, wasn't originally a medieval design, then we built a modified post-gunpowder period set of curtain walls around it! Higher walls, rounded turrets on the ends.

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>>21377665
I believe I said something to the like awhile ago. But that may have been in docs and not this series of threads. Can't remember my brain is fried. But you said it far more eloquently than I so not the point. The point is people will still most likely want a star castle. Map with lake gearheart on it.

>>21377665
actually we aren't trying to kickstart guns and stuff, we're doing our best to keep them from spreading. also, wouldn't any overlap of gun fire provide the same benefit to bows and crossbows. and couldn't we make the walls higher

>>21377665
oh, also, notice how only ONE side has any kind of town around it. During this period you also got the advent of people STAYING THE FUCK AWAY from castles due to heavy artillery. Military bases became about controlling an area around it, not directly defending a township (like medieval castles had been). This is, in part, why Cavalry became so incredibly important during the period leading up to, and following, the Napoleonic wars, because they were your fast action unit. Dragoons with pistols on horse back became a thing. Mobile Infantry who would ride with horses then dismount and take up a firing pattern, also became a thing. Towns built themselves AWAY from these, and military buildings built themselves away from them as well because for cannons to be effective with that pattern, you needed to have a very good line of sight for a long way away, if the enemy could reach the edge of the town that sprung up around your place, getting out of line of sight, they'd render your primary defense, the cannons, useless.

So while COOL looking, and something I'll take into account when designing the expanded walls, realize that there'll need to be some changes if the town is right up alongside the castle.

>>21377665
Quick note; we're actualy trying not to introduce gunpowder to this world more then is nessessary, both to keep from fucking up the setting and to prevent in-setting disputes down.

>>21377736
>actually we aren't trying to kickstart guns and stuff, we're doing our best to keep them from spreading. also, wouldn't any overlap of gun fire provide the same benefit to bows and crossbows. and couldn't we make the walls higher

not nearly so much. Arrows have far more versatility in range because you can "Arc" them. It's less important to have the kill zones because more of the time you're firing high into the air and the arrow comes back down ontop of the enemy. Arrows also have far less penetration power, so high, thick, walls are actually far more advantageous.

Now, I can still design a star castle, but it would be quite so cool looking.

Also, how wide spread is magic with direct applications similar to musket fire. That would entirely change the game. If we have a wide number of mages capable of hurling lightning, fire, and kinetic force all day, then a star castle becomes FAR ore viable.

>>21377736
>>21377766
understood. Still, the point remains. The moment we introduce it in full, somebody is going to figure out how to copy us.

>>21377797
unless we keep it hidden as an emergency type thing? Then I guess the star castle could actually be super viable...

>>21377783
I will posit the theory that the tech level of the lands in fantasy are always so erratic due to the most learned of peoples turning to magic.

As in, we have magic, we don't need guns, kind of way.

Also, is anyone going to answer my questions about museums or the male/female /tg/ browser ratio?

I just feel left out...

>>21377818
The only time it's been used is as a shock and awe defense against the orcs, so that could work fairly well. If we've got an army facing down the castle then we're probably screwed enough to break out the big guns anyway.

>>21377830
Sorry, what questions were those? I've been skimming this thread between dealing with trickortreaters

>>21377830
>Also, is anyone going to answer my questions about museums or the male/female /tg/ browser ratio?
>I just feel left out...
I'm curious as well. I like the overall idea on the museums personally but I don't know enough.

>>21377890
Yes, to the shock and awe thing, but that was a last line of defense tactic. If anything, I would suggest advancement into bigger bangs or chainshot, but the weapons testing would draw too much attention.

>>21377890
>>21377908
Ah yes. Earlier on I wrote a tourist pamphlet describing the more civilian sights of TeeGee, such as restaurants, fight arenas, theatre and movie complexes (shut up, it makes sense). One of the things mentioned was a Museum, that housed all kind of gewgaws, and that got me thinking in the line of "Hey we have all this new stuff, where do we put it?", would museums be granted new plots of land for storage should they grow larger?

Granted, the few famous museums I know of with large collections were either government run or "I am so rich" run.

The other questions was what 'generous' ratio of males to females outrealmers should there be. I eyeballed it at about 20:1~ish, since I have no idea how the internet works demographically.

>>21377964
Yeah, 20:1 seems about right.

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>>21377964
generally museums have storage areas that they move things in and out of over time. Not everything is on display 100% of the time, even the popular pieces. Like in the Louvre they have to move the paintings into storage not just for repairs and touch ups, but to let the pigments settle, since leaving them hanging up causes the pigments to slowly fall off because of gravity and time or something.

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>>21377636
I can see a museum being part of the University district. Actually, I can imagine there being multiple museums. At least one dedicated to Outrealm stuff, presumably with a 1:1 replica of an SR-71. Another would be home to all the loot and other equipment adventurers didn't want any more. Heavily guarded, of course.

Also, I've been to both of the museums you mentioned. Those things are humongous; just about the right size.

>>21377964
I don't seem to recall the theaters. Could you elaborate?

>>21378439
Well, this may be a spoiler, but there is a reason I was dropping questions about museums.

Let's just say in a world where magic exists, some things are worth more to the right people.

(Not black market, more Warehouse)

Also, the theatre and entertainment broad sheet!

>Experience the stage and theatre of the Old World, adapted for new release at the NEW GLOBE, Thespians and Bohemians to the masses.

>Enjoy premium cinematic viewing at THE TESSERACT, eight screens of quality filmography in one building. We repeat, the moving images will not approach you, even on 3D night. Sorcery powered film projectors are not that complex.

Just some things I put together.

>>21378439
>SR-71
>most beautiful aircraft to ever bless the Old World
>only a replica
and now i'm sad

>>21378439
And then one day a bored wizard with too much time and power makes it fly.

METAL ARM!

>>21378641
Make it shiny. So bright it burns the whiskers off your face.

>>21378551
Cheer yourself up, buy a plane ticket and go to the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Virginia. It's where I took that picture. To the left is the Enola Gay, to the right is a prototype Nazi aircraft, and you can see the Space Shuttle Discovery in the back. They also have a Concorde, among other treasures.

>>21378616
And suddenly Teegee gets a lot more tourism revenue. And assuming someone puts a working camera in the thing, aerial shots of Obsidos.

>>21378658
I was thinking more along the lines of a SR-71 shaped blimp. Making in go as fast as a real SR-71 would destroy the mock-up and kill the wizard.

>>21378616
oh god...

>>21378641
well that's figured out isn't it? Dragons+Dwarves+Gnomes+MAGICK

right?

>>21378715

Basically, yes. That is the plan.

I will flesh it out more as I write the process, and also what it looks like. I may also draw it for shiggles.

>>21378736
Make it a little more gearpunk than the FMA versions perhaps? That'd be my suggestion

>>21378775

I really like the mechanical plate armour though...

>>21378818
Mechanical plate armor with grooves and slits that show off the gears inside?

>>21378658
i live near castle air museum in california, for about 3 dollars i can bus there and back to see one

>>21378849
exposing the gears to the elements = bad

>>21378818
>>21378849
pretty much. Most likely it wouldn't be the wires and hydraulics that is apparent in the major thing.

Are there golems in this world? It might simply be easier to have something set up where you animate a armor piece and give it intelligence like you can other magic items and a telepathic / empathic link to the owner?

>>21378849

See:

>>21378866

>>21378874
right, and I hardly have a leg to stand on if I revert to rule of cool given my speachification against Star-Castles xD I concede the point.

>>21378870
I was actually thinking of a Harry Potter style metal arm, one that was magicked to move like flesh arms would.

As for golems, they do exist. Were mentioned in many places, like the things the Professor found, the floating city of Dragons, Sentinels of Obsidos.

But it looks like your mentioning something more like Iron Man suits.

Still surprised nobody has figured out what the Island of Obsidos is based off. WEST from the Europe analogue, heavy mists, lots of weird stuff in the ocean, vaguely triangular...

>>21378930
i missed the triangle part

>>21378930
no one guessed Atlantis?

>>21378930
Badly phrased, I meant the location of Obsidos.

The actual city is a mishmash of a bunch of things, like Myst, they Mysterious Island (Jules Verne, do you speak it?!), Uncharted, etc.

>>21378942
Look back at the Dwarven expedition west. They mention the first recorded attempts at locational scrying via triangulation.

>>21378870
>>21378930

That was actually sort of my plan. Create the arm mechanically able to manipulate things and have a range of motion exactly like a regular arm, but use magic to animate it and make it usable by the owner.

I want to use magic in this sense purely because I need magic to give it the ability to have some kind of tactile sensitivity so I can feel things with the arm.

>>21378954
oooh, okay... Myst, jesus, forgot it was triangular shaped... When you said traingular and weird stuff in the ocean I immediately thought back to how atlantist is supposed to be shaped.

>>21378950
Nope, I actually had plans for a sunken city, though...

Think again, what other weird sea tales do you hear?

Keep in mind that this island is not 100% geographically analogous to our world. I may have applied artistic license to cartography...

OK, fine, the Veil of the Ocean was based off something triangular that eats ships of Earth. Some call it Devilish. Anything else...the Maw of the Ocean is just a giant stationary whirlpool, ripped it out of piratical stories and Warcraft.

>>21378874
>>21378866
>Magic
>worried about the elements

>>21379012
Bermuda triangle seemed a little -too- obvious >_>;

>>21379046
Bermuda Quadrangle

>>21379111
The way magic works here, I'd say Bermuda Checker-board isn't an off guess.

Also opens up the option for me and others to post more weird sea stories.

>Gather 'round me bully boys, and I'll tell you a tale of the sea. Of salty winds and battered waves, of islands that move under knee...

>>21379167

The Sea you say, now we're talking!

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More little dragons for you.

>>21380484
if these are included will they be true dragons or more like drakes

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>>21380570
Mostly drakes. A few true dragon may chose to take such an appearance, Kuro and Belle can't fathom why.

>>21378930
I wasn't aware we were supposed to guess. It was kind of obvious.

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I know this is probably a little late, but...
How can we have a star castle if all we did was expand upon what was originally a standard, if rather large and ruined, medieval castle?
I always personally imagined it as medieval, with sections vaguely based off of or mixing Roman, Gothic, modern and other architectural designs. Basically an architectural bastardization that happens when a bunch of cultural enthusiasts decide they want to upgrade a castle in various ways.

>>21381005
Well I see it as we started with a temple thingy as I remember. Then we upgraded the thing like you said, then we built a star castle around the city.

>>21381005
That's more or less what I was thinking, too. Should be fun to imagine what the hell this would look like. I seem to recall that something similar had happened in Egypt after they adopted Roman culture, though. (If anyone could provide more details, I'd be very grateful.)

>>21381005
possibly have main castle be more your style with star castle style walls surrounding it

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>>21380627
So is this ok? Or is is so utterly horrifying that you can't bring yourself to reply?

>>21381263
it's good, you just didn't give any sort of question or anything to reply to

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>>21381030
To be fair, the Romans forced their cultural shit onto everyone they could. There was nothing wrong with existing calendars, for example, but we use the Roman calendar simply because Rome was convinced of its own superiority and that we should do everything the Roman way. We still feel the architectural, cultural, philosophical and other influences even today.

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>>21381286
I don't want to be the only one breeding micro-drakes.

>>21381398
i'll be breeding most kinds (though limited on aquatic due to lack of water space), i can see tiny ones in there

also something i plan to include in my next right up drake hatchlings eventually attack any other hatchlings in their nest so be sure to separate them before that happens

Alright. Me and my little band of newcomers will have a story by tomorrow night hopefully.

>>21381457
Kuro an Belle have a pool. So they could do that.

Never give girls tanks.

>>21381501
pool could work for the mini drakes, not the full sized ones, that's gonna take much more water. also it's not like TeeGee will use nearly as many aquatic drakes compared to ground or aerial seeing as we're land locked

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>>21381530
Mini drakes are mostly pets, though some of the larger ones could be used in battle.
But why would you want to make something so cute fight?

I came up with another enchantment, and some writefaggotry to go along with it. I fear that it might be a bit OP, though. Feel free to shoot it down if you think it might be too powerful.

----

An excerpt from Wilhelm’s journal.

Now that I’ve got the summoning aspect down, I think it’s time to move onto another aspect of the armor. I’ve outlined several sub-projects below that will lead to the completion of the project as a whole.

>Force redirection enchantment (Already made some progress there, shouldn’t be too hard to refine.)
>Runic wire HUD (Have yet to find a transparent material that works well with runic wire. Might have to scrap this one.)
>Powered exoskeleton (Haven’t found a material that works as artificial muscle yet.)
>Some method of flight? (I’d need a good method of propulsion, and a way to stay in the air. Extendable wings would be too large, research a gravity reduction/mass effect enchantment?)

>>21381608
I’ve decided to work on the force redirection enchantment. But before writing about what I’ve managed to do with it, I should give a short explanation as to what it actually does. As most anyone reading this knows, when two objects collide an equal amount of force is imposed on each object. This enchantment (by means of which I am not entirely certain) manages to redirect around two-thirds of the force imposed on the enchanted item onto the object it’s colliding with.

There are several applications for this, mostly in the realm of combat. It can be used offensively on a weapon or gauntlet, or defensively on armor. After determining that they would not tear my arms apart when worn, I chose to test it on a pair of gauntlets. I’d chosen James GearHeart as my testing partner, as he happened to be passing by. In retrospect, I probably shouldn’t have done so under the guise of a sparring match. After picking myself up, I explained to him that I was testing something and asked him if he’d let me get a punch in. Though suspicious, he agreed. To my credit, I did make him stumble.

Apparently he hadn’t expected the punch to be as powerful as it was. This means that 1) the enchantment works, and 2) I punch like a little girl. Anyway, he wanted a pair. He’ll be bringing me a pair of gauntlets in his size later; I look forward to the results from his field tests.

Also, he asked me what would happen if the gauntlets were to hit each other. I hadn’t actually considered what would happen, though I suppose there’d be a feedback loop. I’ve told him that he won’t be getting his force gauntlets until I’ve squashed the bug. On a related note, I have a new design for a grenade.

>>21381619
Though some runic trickery, I managed to tie a force redirection enchantment to the metal plates on the bottom of a pair of push boots. The push effect (runic in nature) is already toggled with a switch. It doesn’t mix well with the (non-runic) force redirection enchantment, so I rewired the switch to toggle both at the same time.

The upshot of this is that softer landings are now a possibility. It also creates a minor shockwave and a badass-sounding thud when the user lands.

----

Tested the new enchantment on a breastplate. It works as expected, taking less force than normal from the hammer blow I inflicted upon it. The armor wasn’t knocked back as far as it would’ve been otherwise, and any hypothetical wearer wouldn’t have felt as much of a blow. Also, extra stress was forced on the hammer.

I can see this enchantment becoming very popular.

>>21381586
mini ones probably wouldn't be for combat, but i'm not going to waste perfectly good drake eggs

>>21381608
hate to burst your bubble but i've had force redirecting stuff on my boots since around the ork attack

>>21381745
I was thinking of something along the lines of fire lizards from the Pern books, combined with the way dog breeds work. Then tweak the result a little bit so it fits in with the world better.

>>21381892
pern books?

>>21381922
Dragon Riders of Pern.

>>21381931
never read/heard of, gonna need a tl;dr of what you're talking about

>>21381950
No clue what that means.

>>21382034
too long: didn't read

I've heard of the series, but never read it. I understand the guy who wrote Eragon ripped heavily from those books though.

>>21382305
he ripped more heavily from starwars.

Okay. Short form.
1) Pern is a planet colonized by humanity
2) Every 200 years a comet trailing a microorganism called the Thread comes by and drops "Thread Rain" which devours the life forms on the planet. Because of this, all life on the planet is either INCREDIBLY mobile, or it is incredibly fast reproducing.
3) Humanity's colonies get knocked back to the stone age by the first few thread falls. But not before they genetically engineer a local species called Dragonlings for their unique 6 limb structure and reptilian appreance. They are capable of imprinting on another creature (the first to feed them upon hatching) and forming a telepathic bond with them. Normally this is with their mother, the "Queen" Dragonling, who forms the nucleus of a flock.
4) These are genetically engineered into SUPER SIZED forms, increasing their abilities to breath fire. They also had abilities to "hop" through space and time as a defense mechanism against the thread fall. These larger ones are called dragons, and have their imprinting mechanism altered to form on the first person they see and "bond" with upon hatching. Thus the Dragon Riders of Pern are born.

Almost all the plots in the series focus around the thread fall, which lasts sporadically for 50 years before waiting another 200 years to happen. Occasionally (something like every 20th time) it actually takes 400 years. The first book is actually about the last dragon rider with the last queen going back 400 years in time (an impossibly long and dangerous hop through space and time) to bring back the dragon rider veterans of the last thread fall. Apparently people thought the thread fall had finally stopped forever and stopped supporting the dragon riders after it took double the usual amount of time.

>>21382605
forgot to mention that dragons burn the falling thread in the sky before it hits the ground, usually patrolling high over settled areas and important timber/farm lands to ensure they're not utterly obliterated.

Thread, when it hits the ground, devours -everything- of organic value, leaving dead sand, stone, and gravel, and dieing Thread material which is worthless for growing stuff in.

that reminds me. What livestock and animal types do we have? If we have drakes, and other beasties, I'll need to come up with appropriate designs for all of them... not to mention the various living areas for each race. I know we're all super integrated, but simple mechanics and body types will mean that various races will prefer to live together when they've not taken spouses amongst other species. Probably have little, not exactly ghettos, but species specific living areas dotted around the city where their kind is MOST concentrated, where as the interspecies living areas take up something like 80% of the town.

Also for the idea for the way Castle Waifu is shaped, I think I can get behind that image... yes... I have an idea for the star castle formation already, one that won't be horrendously broken.

Also figured out a way for us to test and expand gunpowder weaponry without notice. Not exactly super safe, but better than nothing... anyway, will get into that tomorrow.

>>21382697
I remember we herded sheep. Probably have chickens too due to their small size. Also horses because knights need horses. No pigeons though, the harpy mail service literally swallowed up all competition.

>>21382697
There's a building used to house the frostsilk worms too, but I never put much thought into how big it should be.

>>21382605
was going to use an imprinting style thing after accidentally stumbling upon it. not first feed or first seen, but still only one master (for the most part)

>>21382697
i found waste goats up in the frozen north. think of them as a mixture of polar bears, wolves, and goats. we use them as livestock mostly, since they don't take well to war training, though it can be done

>>21381745
That was a push enchantment, actually. This works off Newtonian principles. (If I got any physics stuff wrong, feel free to mention so.)

>brasbusi tallic
I don't /think/ we have any brothels in the city.

>>21384778
I was under the impression we didn't need them.

>>21384778
Physics is based off of the science of 'Maybe'. Otherwise known as Quantum mechanics.

>>21384778
Depends, I wouldn't be surprised if we DID happen... though I imagine they're better run than the ones that exist today in the US at least.

Reasoning behind existence: While WE might not, by and large, need them, what with the concept of Waifu, traders passing through who do not subscribe to our philosophy would still be looking for such pleasures. Where you get civilization, you get the world's second oldest profession.

Reasoning behind Quality: You think ANYBODY is going to pull shit in this city? On this front? While I imagine crime is as prevalent as it would be in any particular city, I imagine that messing with anybody who came here, under the protection of our particular concept of live and let live, especially on something as delicate as sexual matters, is going to be hunted down and lynched at worse, and I imagine that given the dependence upon the reality of our philosophy holding sway, we don't mess about with people who threaten it's reputation. Hate crimes, sexual crimes, things that make people second guess whether or not we actually subscribe to our professed philosophy, aren't likely to get a second chance.

Also, question. Plumbing? It is not exactly hard to set up, and I imagine that we could have roman style aqueducts over the city, leading to the water purification building. We'd always in need of labor to work the pumps from the reservoirs up to the local acqueducts. Next post will be on how roman city water systems functioned, it made sense, and I think it would be appropriate.

>>21385337
Roman Water Systems:
-Roman Aqueducts always emptied into a single massive reservoir. These reservoirs, in turn, emptied into 3 pipe lines that could individually be shut off in times of emergency. These pipes were as follows:
--->Military: The first to be shut off. This pipeline powered the fountains that fed into the naval yards, the barracks, and other purely military installations.
--->Private Homes: The second to be shut off, I'd suggest switching this with the military line in priority. Water to individual villas and homes went down this pipeline.
--->Public Places: This one was almost never shut off, only when water rations were so important that these were turned on and off at regular intervals to ensure that the drinking water lasted as long as possible. Public Fountains and sometimes wells drew from this pipe line.

Waste Water, or Black Water, was often collected in chamber pots, and dumped into gutters in the streets, which in turn emptied into pipes that lead out to cesspools and similar containment areas. Waste water and similar drainage also empties out like this

In our case, I imagine that we have several large cesspits well outside the sit that in turn empty into what is called a "Drainage" field.

Sorry, as I said, infrastructure is a passion of mine, I do hope I'm not getting too micro.

>>21385388
No, this is actually rather interesting. Go ahead.

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>>21385470
Okay then ^^;

Alright, well I have a SUPER ROUGH mspaint map up. This will -drastically- improve over time I promise, but this is a kinda "general lay out" type thing. Most detailed part is Castle Waifu's curtain wall.

Also contains loads and loads and loads of information on reasoning behind placement of things and similar.

----
On Infrastructure.

Infrastructure is primarily 4 things.
1) Water Flow
2) Traffic Flow
3) Living/Work Area Distribution
4) Resource Storage.

When you throw in things like electricity, you also get "Power/Communications" flow. Due to our technological limitations, Communications and Traffic Flow are almost identical. Though I would suggest that somebody would have figured out semaphore, in it's most basic form of "raise/lower a single flag for Morse Code"

Traffic Flow, I think we should take a leaf out of the roman book. Roads. Roads are important, especially for a trade dependent nation. If we have to choose between pouring stone into making decent roads, and pouring stone into making housing, we should always go with the roads. Good roads mean militaries move quickly, they mean trade moves quickly, it means that people know where to go.

>>21385772
While Roman roads used "Mile Stones" I would instead suggest "Meter Stones". Roman roads had gutters, ditches, and paving stones. On the edges, they had a raised area that prevented most wagons from accidently falling off them and divided horse/wagon, or "Heavy" traffic, from pedestrian traffic (something we should definitely encourage because resource flow increases dramatically when normal people aren't getting in the way of the wagons carrying goods and materials).

Now, the meter stone will be simple. Every meter, in this raised edge, we simply set a seperating "brick" or stone, rather than on it's side so it lies flat, we set it on it's end. Every 1000 meters, we put a large stone, into which we carve information on distances, and possibly give a designation number. If people don't like the "raised" meter stone, I suggest we go with as simple "Alter Color" enchantment to make it distinct from the local stone used to make the roads. This will give MOSTLY accurate measures of distance between places, which is always important.

Different kinds of roads would have different levels of importance. Some roads, vital to trade and military, the primary roads of our territory, would be publicly maintained and at public expense. Others, would be military based roads, and come out of the Harem Knight's personal coffers due to their nearly exclusive use for connecting outposts, fortresses, and other military instillations (there would be incredibly few of these, and probably would need no great amount of maintenance)

Finally are private roads. Private land owners can maintain these roads and get tax benefits or something for doing so, since they expedite trade. The tax benefit is an impetus thing, as the people always need that extra little push to do something like this, even though it will end up benefiting them publically as well.

>>21385858

You guys want security? Prosperity? Infrastructure of all kinds is necessary. Rome owned their lands not through military conquest, but because they then IMPROVED the lands they conquered. Their military was a military of engineers, and when it came to holding, and maintaining, lands. There was no greater force in history. Rome only really began falling apart when they forgot this fact, and less and less money was poured into infrastructure. And if you look at China, the largest continuous empire in history, you'll find that EVERY time there was a loss of the divine mandate, it was due to a lack of expenditure upon infrastructure for canals, levies, and other necessities of agriculture, leading to flooding, famine, and general anger at the powers that be, apparently from the gods (cause the gods cursed people with famine and floods) but actually from their own stupidity for not maintaining the freaking necessities of life.


I can promise you, if we don't follow that example, if not rebellion, we'll get plenty of people saying things like "OH MY! LOOK AT ALL THIS FAMINE AND SHIT! I bet it's those otherlanders! Unnatural interbreeders that they are!"

Even if this stuff happened before, people will look for a reason, infrastructure put in place will be a -preventative- measure. Aqueducts and canals will prevent famine, leveis will prevent rivers from breaking their banks, good roads will ensure quick travel of news and relief supplies.

Anything else people think should be included infrastructure wise? And comments on the idea that the city's walls expand in little bursts?

>>21385858
I think having stones to mark every individual meter is a bit much. When would we really need to know a distence marked that exactly? Maybe every 10.
Other then that, this is all great. I'm looking forward to how you handle all the non-humanoid bodytypes the city needs to accomidate.

>>21386067
>Other then that, this is all great. I'm looking forward to how you handle all the non-humanoid bodytypes the city needs to accomidate.

10 meters makes more sense, and I meant for long distance roads, highways. And mostly that level of precision I wanted for one reason. We have goddamn magic. Divination specifically. Having that level of precision might be essential for early threat solutions and planing depending on how accurately "described" as it were, the results you want are necessary for magic.

As for non human body types, it's certainly going to be an issue. side walks will need to be quite wide, and I imagine that "perches" of one variety or another will be quite common everywhere. I think our water table is actually much lower than I originally thought it might be, if the river is a few miles off and doesn't run near the city (and even if it does, there are ways of preventing leakage, you just drive stone down deep enough to create a barrier to water).

Oh goddamn, we're going to need -canals-. Fuck canals. I hate canals, they add so many freaking levels of hateful, yet necessary, complications to defense and planning... each public area will need at least ONE fairly deep pool of water for merfolk and other types, plus access to canals... and then there's the Aqueducts above the city themselves needing to have some method of being cut off, though that's not TOO hard, we just make the primary resevoir the cut off, with pumps and water towers to store up water power and pressure around the city... not to mention cisterns and similar.

Thank you, or fuck you... not sure which... >ubs eyes and goes to the wiki to begin gathering a full list of races and various features that will need to be accounted for

>>21386309
Angels- Winged, larger road necessity given larger area taken up. Nothing big there,
Batpeople- Perches? Not sure, depends on structure of body. Do they have 4 or 6 limbs?
Coininoch/Scottish Rabbitpeople- No special considerations. Possibility of secondary walk ways that do not need direct access. Hop-Ways if you will.
Demons- Vareity of considerations to take into account, but most important being volume taken up, and any harmful materials produced by their bodies that need to be processed or can be useful in other industries.

>>21386472
Dragons- Jesus wept, okay... need more info. Are we assuming all dragons in the city have the capability to turn humanoid and size change? or will we be dealing with full scaly ones, 6 limbs, fire breathing, and MASSIVE because all of those things need to be taken into account.
Dryders/Spiderpeople- Possibility of high up "nests" and "cradels" and other prongs raised well above street level. I imagine that the majority of their homes would actually be basic latices that they then weave structures onto. Again, volume becomes an issue at ground level.
Dwarves- No prominent issues. Except in their stone working greatly improving our abilities to expand.
Elves- No issues.
Felim/Catpeople- No -known- issues.
Fey- I'm not even going to bother. From what I've read Fey can get around any problems on their own due to their inherent magical nature, up to and including locked doors and solid barriers. I seriously doubt anything I could build would do anything significant to improve their traffic flow.
Ghosts- See Fey.
Gnomes- No Issues.
Goblins- No issues.

>>21386477
Harpies- See Bat People, but known that they are 4 limbed, so not really any new issues. Possible second floor access on many buildings in the form of special doors and shutters?
Holstaurus/Cowpeople: Volume issues.
Kanin/Dogpeople: No -Known- Issues
Orcs: Volume issues, possible structural integrity issues given strength and roudiness. Probably want to increase the structural integrity of all outer walls, lamp posts, mail bins, and especially of any structure that is to become an Inn or is likely to result in brawling.
Lamia- Volume Issues, in the extreme.
Mantis- I don't even? I need to read up more before reaching these guys I guess...
Telidron- Once again, need more information, will reach them in my readings eventually. Probably same issues as Orcs and Angels.

>>21386498
Which reminds me. How many of these races were present at the time of 5 A.A. when any serious rebuilding would likely have been planned and in the process of being executed.

>>21386524
Of 5AA?
Angel
Batpeople
Demon
Dragons
Elves
Felim
Harpies
Holstaurus
Kanin
Orcs
Lamia

>>21386498
As for Telidron, big 7-8 feet tall six armed beings. I think thats the only important part.

>>21386817
Okay, that covers all the major ones, the city wouldn't have changed signifigantly... and looks like we have no major populations of aquatic or even amphibious species. So that makes designing this much easier.

So two questions?
1) Dragon population that we have, are we talking traditional or more anthropomorphized dragons? Or both with all dragons capable of taking on either form? Or both with dragons being one or the other? If we have the full sized traditional dragons, how big do they get? And are they all sapient? Different combinations of answers will produce different results.

2) Are bat people like harpies? With 4 imbs, legs and wing-arms? Or are they closer to dragons? Arms, legs, and bat wings growing from their shoulders?

>>21386852
gotcha, that's actually enormously helpful <chalks it up for another in the "Volume Issues"

Jesus... we're going to have to build our doors on American standards... eg: thin and easily broken, simply to get both their SIZE and their weight into accordance with one another... that or lots, and lots, and lots, of Adjust Weight spells... well, already planning on lots, and lots, and lots of "Glow" spells all over the place for lighting the city, so not exactly a big issue...

Our average door is going to need to be 10 feet tall, and we're going to be building stories on a 15 foot scale per story rather than a 10 foot per story scale given how many, well, incredibly tall members of society we have.

>>21386868
1) Dragons can shapeshift to a human or hybrid form.

2) From my understanding they are closer to dragons.

>>21386903
This is why I just said. Screw it castle from a demon. It's built to fit the more monstrous ones.

>>21386945
>This is why I just said. Screw it castle from a demon. It's built to fit the more monstrous ones.

So our castle was originally a demon's castle or temple, that the humans captured (or at least "claimed" but never used perhaps?) and then we found? Okay, that certainly could work... hmmmm...

>>21387003
is me by the way, sorry.

Also apologies for all the questions, but between class and other things, going is slow with the reading.

>>21387003
No GearHearts castle is. Way out near GearHearts lake. Its called Castle Demon Reach. Castle Waifu was an elven temple thing.

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>>21386309
>aqueducts above the city
Perhaps there could be lodging for the batgirls/harpies intigrated with those? I guess it would depend wether you ment smallish roof-top aqueducts or massive ones like in the pic.

As for the canal issue, I don't think we really need to go full venice here and have open waterworks thoughout the entire city. To my knowlege, merfolk aren't terribly common, and I imagion they'd rather live in a proper lake or river system then in a canal system that doesn't actualy connect to the sea.

>>21387009
No man, it's all good. More information means a better product. Ask away.

>>21387076
I agree as of 5AA there was 1 mermaid in the city, and only for a short time.

>>21387115
>I agree as of 5AA there was 1 mermaid in the city, and only for a short time.
gotcha, makes things way easier then design wise.

And I imagine a mix of rooftop and large, and yes, I was planning on doing double integration, "nests" hanging off the sides or integrated into the pillars. The top most layer however would be pretty much sacrosanct. We don't want it to be common nor easy for people to casually go up to those areas as water = life blood of any city.

>>21387169
If I might ask. I understand that we have a loose "Council of DMs" apparently based on a meritocracy for admittance (I'd assume that either proving through one's deeds or through a signifigant faction of the citizenry putting forward someone as their representative on the council would be the terms of admittance).

How does governance work? We have the Code of Bro (which is fairly vague as it should be, and I suppose enforced by the Harem Knights themselves or a subsidary body, maybe the BroGuards?) as our primary legal document I guess...

What about taxes? Is it voluntary only? or is there a levy of some sort? Or perhaps it's based on merit, with a multitude of ways to pay... if we don't actually have a form of currency yet, I actually have an idea for something that would be a good stand in if we're gungho about "those who do great things should get payment" rather than a pure capitalist system. I'll post it up if there's people interested (it would also depend upon the availability of magic)

>captcha: supreme uapples

>>21387754
We have a Horo.

>>21387754
Funny you should ask. Me and a few others hammered this out. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13ACKYH-gFRcfWXpAhcWWYPos6Tek9ssAAyzFpMIBOXc/edit

>>21387754
Also we are not doing magic credit cards we had that discussion already.

Taxes are not voluntary, Knights pay more. No to the idea of the broguards.

>>21387841
I prefer CRIMSON SCHOLAR thank you very much. Though gender flipped? I hope it's gender flipped, I'm rather lacking in femine traits.

And gotcha. Original idea I was about to propose was something along the lines of those smelling sticks in that one city from one of the later FF games (very specific I know) that you got for doing good deeds, and would with time fade. One faction I made for another group writing project used "Krona" awarded by the town leadership or other designated people. They were sticks with glowing marks telling of the deed, the owner, and the giver, and fading over time. But that's just a magic credit card really.

Either way, if we don't have our own form of currency, we do need one. A power cannot control it's economy if it is dependent upon foreign or uncontrolled currencies. Of course, you could always go the super liberal/libertarian route... eg: Anyone may print currency and back it with any valuable substance. Like some farmer produces wheat? You have a 20 bushel note from him. That's a guarantee for 20 bushels of wheat from him. It's not the most stable form of currency though.

Final route is to make coins from traditional forms of metals, stamp them, and maybe make sure they are all exactly one ounce in weight, does risk tax problems of course unless we enchant the buggers.

>>21387959
I thought occured to me just now.
Remember that .rar of stories A Witch posted a few threads ago? The one mentioning Horo?
That was you.

>>21387959
I'm not talking about you. Artorias has at least one Horo running around.

>>21387986
OH! Okay, sorry, was a little confused there...

>>21387980
I haven't gotten that far? I guess I'll find out.

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>>21387980
>>21388212
Oh great. You see what you did, anon?
You have to wait at least two threads before you stick someone into a porno. It's just common curtisy, man.

>>21388295
<face desk> -_- really? Gah, guess I'll see when I see...

Another entry from Wilhelm’s journal.

Earlier today, I’d realized that it would actually be rather easy to make a perpetual motion machine using various runes and enchantments. I immediately wrote down some blueprints and started building it. Approximately two and a half hours later, it was up and running. I admired it for a few minutes, proud of my accomplishment.

Then it and the blueprints disappeared into a void and I had a thought that was not my own. Translated into words, it goes something like this.

“What you just did was extremely clever, but I don’t want to spend years explaining to you why perpetual motion machines are a bad idea. So let me say this; DON’T PULL THAT SHIT AGAIN.”

Well, at least I have a supernatural entity of some sort on speed dial. Could be useful in a pinch.

>>21388927
Yeah I already thought about that one and figured the same.

As for the gantlets I don;t think the feedback would be a big problem as the stronger punch would knock back the weaker one before to much rune effect could go off.

>>21388970
Good point. Considering that only two-thirds of the force is repulsed, feedback wouldn't be a problem unless you intentionally hold them together. Even then, they'd probably be repulsed before they break apart.

>>21389250
To hold them together after impacting them with enough force to cause that would be impressive.

>>21384778
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/20722412/#p20730300
>It works by combining the super lightweight of mythril, split second boosts in my abilities, and by messing with Newton’s third law. When I jump, all the force that I would push against the earth switches direction and adds to the force the earth pushes against me, and when I land all the force that would be used to crush me is instead turned around and goes into whatever I land on.

>>21389425
You know, given a hammer I could rape reality with that.

>>21389823
which is why i haven't used it for anything other than jumping high/far and not dieing when i fall from dragon back. also, drake time incoming

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14 AA fall
My little drake army seems to be making some progress, finally. I spent some time going all over the valley and finding plenty of drake eggs, which was easy enough, there are plenty of drakes up in these mountains. The hatchings went well as well. The eggs would hatch into all different kinds of drakes of all different sizes and colors, some with wings, some without, and even a few with webbed feet for swimming. Unfortunately, at about six months of age, baby drakes get aggressive and start trying to kill any other ones in their nest, and since I had kept most of them together, most of the hatchlings and a fair portion of the eggs ended up being lost before we could get there to break them up. Rank E luck at its finest, that’s what I get for using a spear. I think the aggression thing is for population control and survival of the fittest type stuff though, since the ones that survived are pretty tough. I have started keeping each drake in its own room now (got plenty of room in the coliseum), though basic care does take quite a bit longer. I also headed out to find more eggs, but after grabbing so many for the first batch I haven’t found nearly as many. I do my best to keep from killing any wild drakes though, so that they can keep laying more clutches.

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>>21389958
As for the drakes themselves, they’re kind of hard to describe since they seem to have dragon like variability and each clutch usually looks different from every other. It takes about a year for the larger ones to reach riding size, give or take, with the flying ones taking a bit longer. The ones that are too small to ride I call mini drakes, and range from the size of a large dog to about the size of a human hand. I may not be able to use them for mounts but I’ve been working on training them for battlefield mobility for the sake of delivering messages and such, though if all else fails I could probably turn them into some kind of pet, I know I’ve seen nobles in Mirthterra and Serrid with them before. The rideable drakes range from roughly horse size to roughly minivan size, not counting tail and wings. Most drakes also have a breath weapon similar to dragons, with the vast majority being fire. I have seen a few other elements, but they are few and far between. Not even the clutch mates of these anomalies share their different breath

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>>21389974
The training of new riders has gone about as expected. Tons of bright eyed idiots come in through the gate I set up, hoping to become a flying knight, and then humiliate themselves and make me waste my time dragging their unconscious bodies back to be healed. While the ground forces have been making some decent improvements, flying drakes don’t ride anywhere nearly as smooth as a dragon once they have a rider on their back, so most of the new guys end up falling off. There’s also something I noticed about the drake’s behavior. While they’re trained to listen to who ever is on their back, most of the drakes will completely ignore their rider’s orders if Kari tells them to do something, and since she’s the one that was caring for them the most I think they may see her like a mother of sorts. I’ve started pairing off the younger drakes with people that have potential (like not falling off) as future riders so that they can develop the same loyalty to the people that they’ll fight beside. Depending on the lifespan of these things I may even begin pairing them off with children of the knights so we have a generation of riders being trained from childhood.

>daughter yanrov
why yes captcha, the eldest daughter of the yanrov family would be a good choice

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>>21389995
Most of my family has been helping out plenty as well. As I said before Kari spends most of her time taking care of them (or patching up the occasional recruit), and since the soil in this valley is fertile and the few hot springs keep it warm her medicinal herbs grow really well even without a greenhouse. Ana has a drake of her own and helps me deal with the recruits. I had Genz upgrade her ice hammer so that after being summoned up, the block of ice can be thrown from the end of the staff. It looses its magical hardness when it leaves the staff, but a big chunk of ice hitting someone in the head could easily knock them from their mount. Rydia’s been mostly avoiding the drakes and just dealing with her bank, saying that her dealing with them is like me trying to train a chimp. Ember’s been a big help with teaching the flying drakes just how to fly. Full-grown drakes don’t let themselves be trained so we didn’t have anyone else to teach them how to fly. I got the golem some gear and when it finished one path through the mountains I had it start digging out a lake. There’s plenty of water in the valley, but most of it is either too small or too shallow for the few aquatic drakes I have to really move around in, and I don’t need them getting all territorial over the one decent sized lake I have. The Hole has been trying to help out too by making an airship, but they haven’t had any real success. No useful success anyway. They managed to negate gravity on a ship, but it just started floating up and never stopped, and they managed to make an immovable rod, but once they turned it on it shot off into space after tearing them a new skylight

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>>21390006
As for me I’ve yet to go insane. After checking the voices the mind readers heard against every language known to either world, our greatest minds concluded that what the voices were saying was the magical equivalent of “smash face on keyboard, post results”. It’s just random gibberish meant to block mind readers without sending up the same red flag as not getting any response sends up. The glove has definitely made me stronger though. I can keep a good-sized chunk of ball lightning up pretty much non-stop if I want to. I also had Genz upgrade my armor again. I’ve got full on skinplate now. I’ve got my own drake too. He was one of the survivors of the original group, whom I named Logan considering he looked like a fucking wolverine when I pulled him away from his bloodied nest. He’s massive, nearly as big as Rydia (though considering the size of her father, I think she may have quite a bit of growing to still do), dull orange in color, but no special breath. I’ve also talked with Genz about having Logan’s scales enchanted. I want to see what enhancing natural armor does. If this works I may have to look into getting my own skin enchanted.
Note to self: Begun noticing signs of aging in Ana, suspect Kari may start showing soon as well. Must look into ways of slowing their aging in some way as well so I don’t outlive them.

>>21390021
and done for now

>>21389823
People have been trying to rape reality since reality was a thing. Reality has always raped those people and made them like it.

>>21389425
>Mjolnir and Aegis Fang's abilities explained by Physics
I fucking love you people. So much.

>>21390066
>aegis fang
this one is new to me

>>21390124
Hammer from Drizzt books. Works just like Mjolnir.

>>21390145
Except it poof'd back with magic when you threw it. I don't remember it having lightning powers, though. It was mostly just Dorfy, all brute strength, magic to supplement that, no real magical attacks. Which worked just fine, actually.

>>21390205
Poof back with magic is Mjolnir's thing too.

>>21390223
I'm probably too Avengers'd out right now. While Thor is fucking amazing in those movies, I hate Marvel's hammer design. Too much like a sledgehammer, not enough like a proper warhammer.

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>>21390238
That would be because it wasn't a warhammer. It was just a hammer, in some stories a club, with an overshort handle due to loki being a dick while it was being forged.

>>21389823
Lab Log 45;
Since Meina has been needing a more "Effective" weapon for a while I have begun work on a hammer for her. Why a hammer? Because they are awesome.

The basic form of the hammer is made of four main parts. Handle, Joint, Arm, and Head. All made of diamonds I grew using magic. Then I took a page out of a acquaintance's book and carved the weakness out of it. She was not lying when she said it was a hard and painful process. That done, I then carved in runes borrowed from the Coinrich and from Lyrik and Wilhelm.

The head has powerful push runes, and runes that screw over newtons laws on both sides and the handle draws power from the wielder to power all the runes. The joint is pneumatic and amplifies the force.

All the force from the hammer and all the force that would be pushed back onto the hammer is pushed onto what the head hits. I've also added a zero friction enchantment to the joint. Also had to add a lock spell so it doesn't bounce back on the wielder. Since there is zero recoil the effect is much greater. Also increased the density of the head.

The head now ways about 40 pounds. Twice the weight of my old sledge hammer at home. Meina should be able to easily wield it. I've also shaped the head to come to a blunt point to maximize impact per area.

After testing I have come to the conclusion I may have over done it. In other news the Lab needs a new floor as the test target was to weak, I also need serious medical attention; going to go find Lilly.

>>21390333
It may just be me, then. I dunno.

>>21390367
so i'm assuming this is going to go into the Hole's "private stash" rather than see the light of day

>>21390367
Lab log 46;

After getting the dust lacerations healed up I have added enchantments so that the hammer weighs only a fraction of its real weight except for when being swung. I wish I had the proper tools to measure the force output, but alas I do not.

I have modified the handle so that it only powers the enchantments when the user wants it to.

Added a series of runes that should vibrate the point at the same frequency as the hit object.

>>21390496
No. GearHeart doesn't trust just anyone with crazy dangerous stuff. He has a vault deep in the castle where he keeps anything he sees as SUPER dangerous. Slightly dangerous can go the the Hole, but certain things get locked up in a vault under a pool of lava.

>>21390554
Like the storm orb?

>>21390554
Which I really need to write about. It was only ever alluded to once

>>21390570
Yes that's were the storm orb is as is the copy of that one book,

>>21390554
>shovelcannon

>>21390663
Not sure if you mean since they handled the shovelcannon well my argument is invalid.

They handled it badly and is proof of my fears.

Or if your saying the shovelcannon should be added to my vault.

From the Journal of Hetros Jistin (occasionally known as Hetros Tate to a very, very close friends)

(Part 1)

I want you to imagine, for a moment, a world where the job you had wanted to do, and everything remotely similar to it, simply no longer existed. Where some dick with a magic wand and some control issues decided to summon you to his backwater dimension where everything you had was no longer there, and only your most basic, intrinsic skills were in any way valid.

When I clicked the picture, I was learning to be a designer of videogames. Flow, levels, mechanics, and everything that had been my passion, my joy, was suddenly so far beyond my reach that I might as well have been dead for all that I could do what I had spent almost a quarter of my short lifespan working towards.

Now, pile that ontop of the fact that everyone, and I mean everyone, I have ever known personally, is gone, and I will likely never see them again. My family? Gone. My friends? Likewise, gone. A weaker man, or perhaps, as I have come to think over time, a less cowardly one, would have taken his own life at that point.

>>21390890
All I had was what I had when I was pulled from the boring lecture hall I had been in while browsing through my laptop, taking notes intermittently, and then, suddenly, there I was. I had my clothing and personal effects I had brought with me, my laptop and external harddrive (I still have both, kept stowed in a tight container, so they're not damaged more than they already are). My water canteen (which was invaluable), my couriers bag, some pens, my cellphone (likewise I have kept stowed since), and my wallet (which had the only picture of my family members back in the Old World, I still have it, I've shown it too my children so they know who their grandparents are). I'm just glad that I had my jacket, the thick warm one with the winter inner lining, what with the freezing rains common to my university at the time.

When it became apparent what was going on, I felt sure something was going to fix this, it would work out, we couldn't panic, that would just get everyone, me included, killed. There were 3000 of us, so many... it was impossible to feed everyone, and there were many who were deliberately obtuse, panicked, or simply vile in what they wanted from this life. Me? I grew up in Louisiana, despite what you hear about "stupid bigotted southerners" southern Louisiana is something else. We have to be, hurricanes hit us too often to exclude potentially useful portions of the population for any reason, at least, that's how I was raised to think about it, and well, I was raised very liberally, so take my words on my state with a grain of salt.

>>21390911
Never the less, I grew up learning how to hunt, with a shot gun sure, but I learned how to shoot with a bow too. I got the help of somebody with more knowledge in carving wood than myself, and made a bow, the string was crude, made from torn clothing from people who were already dieing from one of a multitude of reasons as winter set in. At the time I still had some kind of hope at getting away, getting back home. The coming nights and weeks would crush that. The fact that I had kept my bowler hat certainly helped boost my moral, though I left it back at the camp each time I went out to hunt.

The first few forays into the forest were fine, I taught others to hunt, the patience of waiting in a blind, they didn't have deer here, but the strange, gangly, antlerless equivalents were certainly suitable as a stand in (though we learned very quickly to cook the meat VERY throughly after several cases of lethal and near lethal food poisoning). What came next I do not like to think about, let alone put to paper, but I have never told anyone, not my Waifus, not my children, not a single member of /TG/, perhaps those who read this after my death will look on it, and I'll let them decide if I've managed to redeam myself since.

>>21390920
Once I went out into the forest with three others I had taught to shoot with a bow and arrow. 4 others followed us in, I was the only one to come back. The three with me were cut down by arrows, one in the eye, he'd insisted on being called Anon, we'd thought it was funny, another was Zeke, a good guy, australian accent though he insisted otherwise, and then a guy who was an honest to god park ranger back in the old world, old guy, Theodore, insisted we called him Theo, he taught us a lot about field craft, starting fires, finding trails, though other knowledge (beyond general identifiers for dangerous animals and plants, bright colors and foreward set eyes), were the three to die around me. There was no sound, just dull thunks, the sound of metal cutting into flesh, it's not the sound they play in movies, I knew that of course, but still, it wasn't the sound of metal hissing, it was just a dull thud, and all three went down. If I had been less obscured by foliage, they might have gotten me too. Instead, I took an arrow through the arm. The pain was fierce, but distant, as my brain processed what had just happened, and my body decided it was going to act on it's own. THe edge of vision blurrs, the body tenses and pain exists, but is distant, addrenaline and other natural poisons flood the body, telling it that it is time to run, fight, or die. I ran. I ran hard, and hid in a hollow.

>>21390926
I don't know if the Elves left me there, or if they honestly didn't know I was there... but I remained there, the snow settling ontop of me, my tattered jeans and blood stained coat all that was between me. Perfectly still. Eventually I realized I would risk bleeding out if I didn't do something, rather than risk hurting myself worse by removing the arrow, despite the blinding pain, I used one of my long, warm, winter socks to make a tourniquet around the arm, pulling it tight.

I was there for several hours, too terrified to move, knowing the elves were still out there, knowing because of the deadly stillness outside, the animals knew predators were about, and avoided the place... and then I saw the next group enter... looking for us, laughing, joking, not thinking that we could actually be in real trouble. People had disappeared before, but their bodies had been found, usually they had fallen down a groto, or been gored by a predator. They weren't expecting intelligent foes. I could have called out, I could have warned them, but I was frozen, I knew, knew in my core (whether or not it was true) that if I called out, I would be found out, I would die. And so, I remained silent. I remained silent as they passed. I remained silent as they found the bodies and cried out, I remained silent as four more hisses, four more dull thuds, four more sounds of bodies crashing into the snow, filled the air.

>>21390938
It was not until nightfall that I returned, trusting in darkness (and in my inability to survive without a fire) to let me get back. When I returned, I told everyone what had happened first, but I changed the story. I told them I ran... and ran... and ran... and became lost. That I eventually followed my own trail back, and found the bodies. It had begun to snow again by the time I got back, no one would know the truth. I wasn't the only one bringing back reports of the elve's "hunt" nor was I the first. People clapped me on the back, told me I was lucky, or brave, to have made it back. I just felt sick.

I stopped going on hunts. No one questioned it. I taught others to use the bow, but I focused my efforts on the castle. I started to study, and test with other people the stresses of stone and wood. I began to help rebuild. I drafted designs, using what little we had in the way of pen and paper. I began to help build, learning more and more. I had once been a level designer, a game designer, and what was this but a level I intended to live in rather than play in. And most of all, I didn't have to be reminded, constantly, of what I had done, the people I had killed.

[end of part 1, part 2 on the Felim and the counter attack coming up later]

>>21390943
Not bad. Welcome to waifuville.

>>21391079
Thanks, was worried I was tresspassing into GRIMDERP territory. But wanted to craft a legitimate reason for my character to probably -never- and I mean -never- want to go adventuring.

>>21391145
The early days are full of grimdark anyway.
That's what happens when you drop a bunch of fa/tg/uys in a forest with no food or water.

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>>21391145
Grimderp has honestly been a problem for several of us lately, myself included. I need to get myself out of the proverbial kitchen with my next piece.

>mfw new item soon

>>21390554
Lab Log 47;

Tera stopped by. She made her displeasure over the name very CLEAR. Lilly thought it was funny, I still hurt. Meina was kind enough to help me off the chandler. Really need to get levitate down well enough to use it on my self.

Changed name of hammer to Meina's Gate Crasher.

Made the handle to adjust to appropriate length for the situation.

>>21391220
>proverbial kitchen
>new item
did someone say ron popiel's jumbo showtime rotiserrie and barbaque with self turning kabob rods and a hamburger rack capable of holding nine quarter pound hamburgers at once? because i think i heard someone say ron popiel's jumbo showtime rotiserrie and barbaque with self turning kabob rods and a hamburger rack capable of holding nine quarter pound hamburgers at once

Alright, so I'm writing more of my knight's origin story...
what do you guys think of Snow Ninjas?

>>21392018
They have to be egyptian catgirl snow ninjas.