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>>21565163
wtf did i just read

>>21565163
None.
But I want some.

>>21565185
>>21565207

I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit OP.

Wat?

>Dropped all points into a Knight Swarm.
>Have multiple lines of defense/offense.
>Opponent shows up with two tiered Rook cheese.
>FML.

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>own one of these
>carry it around in my jacket pocket
>think it's fucking cool as shit
>never tell anyone I have a pocket chess set, ever
>never leave house without it

I think I went maximum overaspie but I fucking love this thing.

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>>21565329
Clearly the good people of /tg/ should wear badges and challenge each other to a chess duel in public

>>21565329
That's so pimp. I think I love you, in the more heterosexual of ways.

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>>21565232
>implies he knows what's going on
>doesn't bother to explain it

Yo I've actually found the best strategy is to have your Hero Piece be an Illusionist King, and have your opponent believe it's your Queen. The GM can help with this, but it's right there in the illusionist class specs if your opponent pulls a babby.

Buff up your queen with dickloads of illusory goodies and rush her into your enemy's lines surrounded by a rook-ram. Have your king sneak around and assassinate theirs, taking his place before anyone notices, and calling for a full surrender. Slaughter everyone in the chaos.

>>21565329
I would love one of those as a Go set. be fun to play with my wife while we wait for food at a restaurant.

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>>21565163

>playing
>game is going well, my leading group of knights is pushing toward the enemy throne
>opponent summons a "Prince" piece to the board
>destroys half my army with some ability I've never heard of
>he has the "Additional Forces" sourcebook
>mfw

>>21565363
I've never amassed enough points nor got good enough rolls to remove that effect the king has by default where it can't move into check (can't remember what it's called). Everytime I've tried, whoever I'm fighting puts my king in awkward situations where I can't do anything, or distracts my attention to elsewhere on the field.

Okay so where do we start here? Rounds and turn-order? I;d prefer "Write down each piece's move, then move all together, resolve battles."

>>21565390

Shit man, why would you want to move the king into check? That natural negative modifier on all melee rolls is crippling. Keep them back and use them for the leadership aura, the buffs that gives are crazy.

>>21565377
Source books which add additional 'royalty' type pieces are such bullshit. Court Wizard from 'Tower of Mages' and 'The King's Castle' is okay, but that's it.

>>21565377
Princes are fucking easy.
Moves like any other piece, but only forward like a pawn.
What's so difficult about that?
I, on the other hand, really hate when people give the Rook the "once per game move like a bishop" power out of Clerics and Castles.

>>21565422
>Implying you don't use the Duke/Princess combo at every opportunity.

>>21565412
It's all about which class you get the king into. In some tiny bit of the core book, which I can never find, it gives rules on a king exclusive melee class which turns him into a never ending rape train.

>>21565390
Yeah, the trick is to really force your opponent to deal with the queen/rook bomb - even without real buffs, the illusory buffs demoralize the shit out of your opponents, and fortresses can't stand against a rook-ram anyways. She's a beast in melee with her base stats in any case - that way, your king can literally appear to be sitting back, doing nothing, and then by the first winter you should have theirs replaced.

I usually play chess at the local library. If things go bad, just cast Gateway to open a passage to any other games already in progress.

Best to negotiate terms with your new ally before sending your pieces through however.

One time I was losing badly to a guy exploiting the double-strike rule for all it's worth so I used Gateway to join in a game between some grandfather and his granddaughter.

With my help, he thrashed her, but I could tell his heart wasn't in it.

>>21565163
Summoner bishops you say? I have a related story.

>Siege scenario
>Two hours so far of carefully managing my resources while my opponent tries to make it through my wall of Rooks.
>He's got a summoner bishop headed to the front
>He's been building up this guy's power by sacrificing pawns to the dark gods since turn 1
>I'm scrambling for something to protect me, GM is rolling on the floor laughing at me
>His summoner arrives
>Completely botched roll
>Summoner is possessed by demons
>We're speechless as the GM makes some rolls and wipes half my opponent's forces off the board.
>tfw I swept through with my level 4 berserker knights and obliterated the rest of his forces

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>>21565454
>With my help, he thrashed her

>>21565450
You're thinking of the Scepter of Slaying. It's not in the core book, it's in "The Kings Castle".

>>21565444
Okay, nobility pieces are okay (awesome if you give them the vampire class). But princes, princesses, etc. can go fuck themselves.

>>21565451
>Implying the queen isn't already broke.
When they reversed the queen nerf last year, everyone should have seen this coming. I'm surprised we haven't seen a 5 Queen/Pawnswarm list by now.

>>21565482

>Nobility is awesome
Do you even Jester?

>>21565482
princess aint got shit on my all knight army.

Oldest strategy. Best strategy. Play hard or go home, I learned that from Sirlin

>>21565503
>>In before "Whaaa all Knights is cheese"

>>21565482
Dude. Princes can only go forward. Just jump them with a Knight you pleb.
The princess is a legit complaint though. If she's backed up by a wizard tower or two knights with the Courting upgrade, she's virtually unkillable.

Until they fix the pawn/queen shit, I dont wanna hear anything more.

Also Kings go from unbuffed pieces of worthlessness to overpowered zerg monsters in like 3 turns with the Knight/Queen trick.

You can't explain that.

>>21565510
A knight heavy list is a fluff list, you fucking asshole. You have no bishop or pawn support, and it's easily worse than real cheese lists like the aforementioned double rook line. lrn2play

>>21565537
I think you're reading the rules wrong. The knight/queen combo was fixed in the last FAQ. It was pretty clear it shouldn't have been working anyway but these guys are almost as bad as GW at foreseeing rules interactions.

>>21565520
>unkillable princess when backed by wizard tower or 2 courting knights

My Siege Rook and Tunneleer pawns would like to have a word with you.

>>21565503
>>21565510
>plays all knights
>expects us to take him seriously
I love you all knight faggots, I just drop a queen/rook/rook formation (fire amulets on all three for maximum effect) and stick a battle herald behind them. Enjoy having your whole force wiped out by one small section of my army.

>>21565543
Yeah, yeah, you knight fags talk a big fucking game but when you lose you're all "whatever it's just a fluff list anyway."

>>21565492
I like Jesters. you would think that jumping 2 in any direction would be overpowered, but it turns out it's pretty balanced in play. Personally, i'd put them on par with an un-leveled bishop in most situations except early game.

>>21565569
This kind of cheesy double rook bullshit is exactly what I was talking about. You double rook queers are fucking up the meta for everyone else.
YES I MAD

>>21565560
Oh shit, that's right! I forgot about Tunneling Pawns.
Huh. Gonna have to watch out for dwarf themed lists when I run princesses.

>>21565543
No, an all-pawns list is a fluff list.
Too bad I can't afford any other pieces now since ChessWorkshop charges like ten dollars for a single pawn.

On that note, anyone got any pieces for sale online?

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>>21565371
>Go

>>21565604
I remember the first time I dealt with a dude that ran a list like that. I called bullshit on it, but then he pointed out that freaking loophole.
I RAGED.

>>21565503
>>21565510
>>21565569

I am tired of you ass fucks.
Do what >>21565543 did and call it a knight *heavy* list, not an 'all knight' list. You can't have an army without atleast a king, and five pawns. It's been that way since second edition when they wanted to bring in a few things from the original game.
Fuck.

I know this is really aspie of me, but goddamn.

>nobody plays Imperial Pawns with just enough leader units to provide buffs from behind cover

Do you even bury foes under a mountain of your own dead?

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>>21565636
>purchasing and assembling individual pieces instead of just using the huge, premade, prepainted sets (which look awesome) that come with all boards and sourcebooks

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ok someone post the rulebook or the name of this game or i call bullshit.

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>>21565657
IT WAS A GLORIOUS DAY

>>21565681
It's Chess RPG, retard.

>>21565559
>Implying you perfectly understands the rules

I call bullshit, the manual is labyrinthian in it's content and half the shit it tells you just seems to contradict what has been stated earlier.

Example: "No win condition under auto-respawn kill."
>Opponent fields endless spawning cheap ass pawns
>Opponent's King sits at back.
>Does nothing but continue summons.
>Mobbed by death wave of one hit pawns.
>Lose Phantom Knights, Rooks, Attk Bishops.
>King is swamped.
>Can't move or take action.
>Dead.

Yes I mad...

>>21565681
We're just making this up as we go along, like Chapter Master. It's just a bit of fun.

>>21565676
>Not painting his pieces
I bet you just run generic bishop armies with no fluff, too.
Get back when you're willing to invest some time in the hobby.

Also
>2012
>Implying the premade and -painted sets aren't shit
ISHUGADY

>>21565646
No, remember in King's Castle, you can trade the mandatory five pawns for an extra knight, provided you have no bishops. It's under the "No clergy, no peasants" sidebar.
You DO have to still take a King and a Queen is practically mandatory even though she's technically optional. I haven't seen a serious list that didn't include one or an equivalent.

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>>21565681

>>21565636
>Plays pawns
Fucking pawn fanboys, man.
I don't even play against pawns any more because games always take fucking days to finish, fuck your shit.

>>21565705
ok then

>>21565604
>>21565642
Go ahead and be mad, double rook isn't even top tier and besides, it's fluff correct to have at least two rooks if you're emulating one of the old armies.

>>21565646
Do you ever Spoiler Webpages?

King Knight in feburary mother fucker. Yeah it's 90$ for the peice but IDAF.

>2012
>not running knights with enhanced or aerial mounts and forces of the kingdom buff from 73rd ed.

The fuck are you not on my rape train? 18 attacks per turn, per unit from seven foot away with +1000 roll modifier.

Plebs, the lot of yah.

>>21565699
Holy jesus, that's what Jesters ARE EXPLICITLY DESIGNED TO COUNTER. Are you running a Royal Court without one? Cause that might be your problem.

>>21565735
No, not double rook. Double rook ROWS. Two rows of majority rooks. If people in your area aren't running that, I'm happy for you.

>>21565706
No, I fucking love the hobby and everything about it. I just don't want to spend *hours* assembling small bits and bobs just so I can play a variant of chess. I have nothing against people who assemble their chess miniatures well, but I'm fucking tired of people who show up to games with badly painted, badly assembled pieces which look 50 times worse than the premade stuff I can get.
Hell, I can play with pieces I get from a few sets of *normal chess* with tiny little alterations to conotate classes and ranks. I want to play a RPG/Wargame based on chess, not Warhammer.

>>21565743
>>All Knights
>>Implying I'm not Gyphon Knighting all day every day.

>>21565743
>3 Bishops
>Shield of Unity
>your entire force is now a glorified christmas decoration

Enjoy circling until your shitty horsebirds have to land and then having your anus ripped open, faggot

>>21565769

He mentioned warhammer.

Time to fucking murder him.

Fun hater

>>21565744
Wait, what!?? No fucking way, I never saw that written down. I thought they were just moving spell immunity units? Or at best anti-magic barriers.

I dont have the manual anymore, threw it out. The guy I usually played with said he knew it all well enough anyway to make a decent game...

>>21565761
I said queen/rook/rook not that rows bullshit, you're officially raging over nothing.

Also, if you're having trouble with rows you just need a queen with delayed deployment and deepstrike (it's like, 10 extra points, nbd considering how much queens cost anyway) and you can wipe the whole line in TWO TURNS.

>>21565743
>73rd ed.
>+1000 attack roll
Did you come from the WotC 3.5 charop boards?
Stop making shit up, we're trying to have a serious discussion here.

>>21565769
Altering the pieces is why I play the game. I wouldn't even want to show up if I couldn't field my Bullet Time Bishop or my Waifu Queen and her elite guard. ITS NOT CHEESY TO RUN TWO WHOLE FUCKING KNIGHTS ITS FLUFF OKAY

>>21565796
Dude. I said I was running a knight heavy list. I'm not ragin over nothing. A delayed deployment queen would help, but it's really not in the fluff of a knightly order list.

>>21565769
>plays with normal Chess pieces
How's 6th grade?

>>21565738
>>Paying $90 dollars for King Knight.

"Guys we don't price based on in-game power we swear"

Fucking put my wallet into check mate, god damnit. I'm so sick of this game.

>>21565797

Mah nigger
>>21565783

What the hell did you think the range bonus is for? Knight A-10 runs for the win.

Sit there and sulk, I'll rip those damn things down.
>>21565779

Page 176
Page 413
Page 7

Knights of the kingdom buff.

Might as well be running king as muscle wizard for all the good it'll do yah.

Hey guys, what does /tg/ prefer?

a) An army identical to or based on the original game (*atleast* one king, one queen, eight pawns, and two of everything else), with additional pieces thrown in.

b) Completely customised/original armies (e.g. entirely bishops, knights and warlords, plus the mandatory king and five pawns).

>>21565723
>90 million pawns
>one singular fucker gets through to the other side
>SUDDENLY QUEEN OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE!!!!
>rape your defences before dying
>3 more pawns sneak through

Repeat until opponent is sufficiently angry (tears are preferable)

>>21565723

Hey, some of those armies are pretty damn fun to play. Unless you're just one of those HURR DURR BILLION ATTACKS bastards.

I always like advancing a double stacked pawn wall with to connect two rooks to enable their This Far And No Further rule, and shut down half the board until they breach the wall. for extra trolling, you can keep a pair of knights behind the wall to try and take out guys who can breach the line, and if a bishop uses excommunication to banish or convert one of the rooks, you can use the Knights Rally The Charge and try and push the pawns all the way to the armory before you opponent can react and hope you roll good on the promotions.

Yeah, yeah, I get my shit kicked in if I try and play competitively, but it's just a lot of fun.

>>21565818
Then use knights with lich-forged blades. You can drop two knights from your list and equip all the rest of your force with them with the regained points. Then it's just matter of starting the decay/necrosis combo and your opponent has the choice of either scattering his rooks or losing the majority.

Do you even try to make knights work or do you just play them 'cause omg knights are soooo cooooool

>>21565834
>>MFW Errata

Great anyone wanna buy a row of fucking gryphon knights? Ebay in 1 hour.

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>>21565783
>Shield of Unity
Wow

>>21565860
Okay first of all if it wasnt for Knights this game wouldn't even exist okay?

You fucking weird peices guys always talk a big game "Ohh we're so cool and creative". But there's a reason there are 5 Knight army books and it's because they SELL.

>>21565851
I only play original-type armies if we're specifically doing Classic rules, otherwise I run a variant on the king's gambit list that gets posted here occasionally.

>>21565860
This is why the game has gone down the drain, right here. People can't run fluffy lists any more and be competitive. If I wanted to run lich forged blades, I do a full necromancer list complete with zombie pawns and bone towers, but I'm not. I'm doing a Knightly Order list because I think it's cool not cause I want to run the best shit no matter how little sense it makes.

So, I'm just getting into this game, and I had an idea for a build. Would a Knight/Jester army designed around headfuckery work well?

So I'm thinking about starting chess.
What's a cheap, decent list for a beginner?
Don't want to spend too much before I know if I like it.
I was thinking of buying the Faith and Fury bishop army kit.

>>21565886
Let me guess, you brag about the "purity" of your knight list but switch which army book you're using every time a better one comes out.

You knight plebs, every fucking time.

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>>21565877
Fuck you, I have like a 75% win rating running my Pantheon of All build (all non-mandatory pieces are Bishops, for the uninformed).

I bet that's better than whatever shit you run.

>>21565913
Pic extremely related

>>21565914

Well, buying the core set helps, because honestly, you're going to use about half the pieces, and it includes the core rules. As for Faith and Fury, you're probably better off buying the specifics for your build, as any worthwhile list will only use about half of that.

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You all would enjoy this game, I think.

>>21565851
I much prefer customized fluffy lists, like Knightly Orders, Royal Court, and the Witch Queen. They make the game interesting.
The classic+pieces just encourages WAAC lists with not attention paid to the fluff, which, let's face it, is the main reason anyone plays.

>>21565886
this horsefuckery is the cancer that is killing chess

>>21565909
>implying being fluffy is the reason you're not competitive

I run a pure fire kingdom list that strictly adheres to the fluff and still kick ass.

>>21565936

Knightmares. Great, theres the 6th Knight army book. Fucking evil knights. (I know none of the nights are technically "good" but whateves)

>>21565886
I hate to say it, but yeah, Knights are the Spess Merrines of RPG Chess.

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>>21565936
Interesting

>>21565944
I bet you do it by using the bullshit Red Haired Rook rules, don't you?

>>21565942
Oh my god, you probably run special bishop snowflakes don't you.

>>21565914
>>21565929
The core set is good, but if you really want to start the game for cheap buy a basic box (king, queen, 10 pawns) and then pick up the auxiliary forces kit for the Faith and Fury set. Download the quickstart rules and you could start playing small scale games for as little as 50 bucks.

>>21565966
Don't act like Red Haired Rooks aren't canon for fire kingdom lists. I am fully within the fluff.

>>21565867

You haven't seen how bad it can get.

In 74th ed you gain another 4 foot range if you play flight of the valkyries in the background for the entire game.

ROOKS STRONG
KNIGHTFAGS GO HOME

>>21565992

Yep, I fucking knew it. Nothing to see here folks.

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>>21565968
nope.
My pawn collection is massive, though

>>21565913
All jump all the time? Yeah, try it out.

>>21566007
Oh come on, Red Haired rooks got nerfed three editions ago; they're only good against jester mobs and other bullshit lists, otherwise they just sit back and support the bishops.

>>21565994
Jesus Christ, I thought we told you to fuck off back to the WotC boards already. You know full well this game is only on its 9th edition.

Please. Fucking amerifat faggotry.

Everyone knows the only good ChRPG players are Thai.

>>21565997
Please kill yourself.

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OP here.
You fuckers need to stop arguing about lists and single type armies and just share some good experiences. Arguments like these are what's ruining the spirit of the original game which makes Chess RPG so wonderful.
>No Anon, YOU are the aspie killing Chess RPG


Not really. You guys are fucking awesome for making sure this thread didn't crash and burn. I'm quite tempted to make a basic game outline (not a full ruleset, just something which covers the basics of how it works and still leaves room for funny shitposting).

>>21566028
The Thai meta is still stuck in 8th ed.

>>21566030
Not my fault rooks are the best
Not willing to run a competitive list?
Don't expect to win.
Rooks are best, stop whining and wait for next codex, faggot.

>>21566028
Half the Thai ChRPG players know literally zero about the fluff. They might have good win/loss ratios but it's still totally against the spirit of the game.

>>21566036
I would help with this game

>>21566036
This is what I've been talking about the whole time. Fluffy armies are what make the game fun.

>>21566036
I would play the shit out of that game

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>>21566039

>Amerifaggotry
>Not admitting Thais lead world rankings
>Last 3 World Tour champions Thai.

Yeah brah. Totally behind.

>>21566042
The King is the best - always has been, always will be. The game is designed with the King at the top and there's nothing you can do about that.

Rooks are good, great even if used right. But they're supposed to support your build, not be the foundation. Some cunt with a pair of Jesters and a Baron is going to fucking annihilate you nine times out of 10

>>21566022
Well, they haven't had an update since 6th, so i don't know what anyone was expecting. They're totally back burner'd now. I would be surprised if we saw a new book for them before 10th edition.

>>21566058
>last 3 WT champs were 8th ed
>Thais not stuck in the 8th ed meta
Keep thinking that.

>>21566043

>Cares about fluff
>Skilled ChRPG player

Pick. One.

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>>21566059
>King is the best

>>21566025

No, you just refuse to believe the game evolved past 9th ed, I have the books right here oldfag.

You prolly don't even know how to runa muscle wizard king, griffon knights or A10 knight list.

Hell, you probably still think the age only runs on ONE board.

>laughingatyou.mp12

>>21565994
That seems fair though.

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>>21566103
>10 editions
>Still shit

Why not just play the best, purest game?

>>21566059
You know just because the Baron can wrap around the board on his moves doesn't make him that good against Rooks. You're going to need a stronger defense since rook have a rank and file move.
Barons are much better at fucking with bishops.

>>21566113
Because I'd rather not be jailed for triple homicide, thank you very much.

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>>21566036
Yeah you're right OP.

>>Playing Jesters day they're released
>>Use double hop to kill 3 units.
>>MFW "This shit's checkers it aint chess."

That was a bad ass edition.

>>21566113
>implying there's any skill involved in rolling dice.

>>21566113
Yeah Monopoly was good back during 1.6

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>>21566036
I agree, let me try to put this thread back on track a little...

>Late game
>My forces are scattered, his have been whittled down but he's got a strong core protecting the king
>Having trouble regrouping due to his alchemist king throwing smoke grenades everywhere
>End up with a queen showdown in the middle of the board
>Fate of the game pretty much resting on this
>He's playing witch queen, so his queen is obviously incredibly deadly
>I'd neglected my queen's experience early on and had struggled to catch her up in power
>Wind blows smoke cover over my Queen, blocking LoS
>Desperate, he tries an area attack
>Botched rolls, explosion drifts back over onto his Queen, remaining bishop, and three pawns
>mfw

Great game overall, the dice gods were really in my favor. Gonna play him again next week and keep a closer eye on his queen next time 'cause I doubt I'll get that lucky twice.

>>21566103
Griffon knights are in 9th ed you troll.
Literally everything else you mentioned you're pulling out your ass as if this was some kind of made up game.

>>21566096
In hat way is the King not the best piece? Two words: Divine Mandate.

I don't give a fuck if it takes 9 turns to set up, it can be done with literally any army, has no natural counter and King Rapetrain of the Rapelands is basically a guaranteed win.

>>21566163
>>Smoke Grenade, Go.
>>Why do you even play this game?

>>21566163
You pulled out a win against a Witch Queen without a wizard tower? Fuck man, that's incredibly lucky.

>>21566145

>Lack of skill in rolling dice
>Ignores the rook upgrade of dieapult.

Faggots.

>>21566169
>Implying a Necrothane won't use your own queen to kill you on turn 6.
I've NEVER seen someone actually get Divine Mandate off during a game. It's only good if your opponent has fucked up completely, and if that's the case you should have the game in the bag anyway.

Spoilers from the next rumored army book. It's the Jungle Savages from down south that they've been hinting at for years.

Get this rule: "King of the Jungle" There is no fucking king. For rules references purposes their "King" is the strongest unit left alive on the board, but you can't beat them through checkmate...

It sounds like pawns x10... way to cater to the meta game.

>>21566220
Wat

>>21566220
Are they all super weak or something? TBH that sounds like all the worst parts of pawnswarm AND knights.

You have to kill EVERY piece?

>>21566197
Like anyone ever uses that since 6th let the pawn's towershield wargear stop them. They only do decent damage on a 4+ anyway.

>>21566183
I know it. If he hadn't been worried about my forces regrouping (I still had a couple of level three bishops with doublecast and two level five death knights I was trying to get formed into a squad) he wouldn't have done anything so risky. He should have just waited me out though, honestly. Even with the death knights I'd have needed a fair amount of luck to pull a win out of that mess.

>>21566220
So...what, you'll have to just kill every piece?
Looks like Divine Mandate might be useful after all.

>>21566220
This is some gay ass shit. Fuck, my list doesn't have any AoE, how the fuck am I going to mow down a tarpit like that?

>>21566220
>Get this rule: "King of the Jungle" There is no fucking king. For rules references purposes their "King" is the strongest unit left alive on the board, but you can't beat them through checkmate...
>For rules references purposes their "King" is the strongest unit left alive on the board, but you can't beat them through checkmate...
>but you can't beat them through checkmate...

What is this I don't even....

Please tell me they aren't bringing back the Witch Doctor Bishop from 4ed. Remember? With the fucking retarded auto-resurrection bullshit when you sacrificed a pawn (which he just so happened to be able to conjure).

>>21566243

>Not locking down through Ice Queen, Bind Bishops, Castling.

Shiggy diggy doo wop.

>>21566220
Don't panic, wait till we see the points costs. They probably get like 5 dudes on the table total.

When are they releasing "Gods of Battle?" I heard the playtest was pretty successful, although the Norse faction is a little overpowered, especially compared to the Celts.

>>21566254
Yeah, 9 times out of 10 a death knight will still fold to a Witch Queen unless a wizard tower or tower of bone is backing him up.
Even with two death knights your odds weren't that good.

>>21566220
>>21566243
>>21566240

Don't let your jimmies get rustled, he's just trying to stir shit. I have the latest issue of White Rook here an they gave the lowdown on King of the Jungle.

>pawns don't count
>point costs through the roof for the rest of their pieces.
>the constant king-death means their morale rolls are a FUCKING MESS

Yeah you'll have to actually hunt down all their strongest pieces, but it'll still be a cakewalk for a well constructed list.

>>21566272
Nope, the whole codex is tarpits, with a sprinkling of heavy support.
16-43 units, more if the witch docters >>21566266 mentioned come back too.

I play Interstellar Anarchists. I firmly believe the Antiking is the single strongest piece in the game.

>>21566266
>MFW I totally forgot about the Witch Doctor bishops.
Fuck me, that would be gnarly.

>>21566286
I had a tower of bone bit it got taken out on turn 2 by a minelayer jester.

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>>21566113

>Horrible staleness
>Everyone runs racecar or anti-car hat hate

Warmancahordes is superior, and I don't have to buy all of those fucking expensive pieces.

>>21566290
>pawns don't count
Oh thank god. That would have been nuts.

>>21566303
Oh ok. That was a good play on his part. He shouldn't have rushed in after that, but I guess he felt safe and got over confident.

>>21566290
They've getting a unique bishop unit with a rule called "The king is dead; Long live the king" that takes the moral issue out of the picture, AND gives the entire army +1 Id.
Costs like 21 points though.

>>21566300
It would not be gnarly, it would be bullshit.

Imagine - Two aut-rezzing Witch Doctors running King of the Jungle. Do you see the problem here?

You could literally never lose. Every single match would end in a 15 repeat stalemate.

>>21566310
>like they won't just ratchet the prices up in 4 years and be on par with ChRPG.

>>21566326
Resurrection will work like the Ankh of Life, one use only.

>>21566299
>he thinks the antiking stands a chance against any king killer list

Say hello to my platoon of virus pawns and princess assassins.

>>21566310

>Running fourcolor on a 6*2
>Not superior Crimsons.

/tg/ doesn't know how to play Warmancahordes.

>>21566334
>playing king killer vs. anarchist lists
It's like you want me to make you cry. Princess assassin is overrated as fuck, FYI.

>>21566311
>>21566290
Ohh damn I must have misread that. Not trolling no purpose.

I guess you can still run like 3x War Elephant and a couple of Silverbacks and just go beast mode Timmy style.

>>In before "Wheres your witch doctor?!"

>>21566326
No, you could do it, but you'd have to take out both at the same time, because of how resurrection timing works.
Running a pair of Barons would work. Or even a Princess, provided you're running a Witch Queen.

>>21566317
Yeah, well, he'd neutralized my ranged support with all the smoke, so he had every reason to feel confident. He does tend to get cocky though. Two weeks ago I beat him with the old bishop/king bait and switch, so that should tell you what kind of player he is.

>>21566334
Oh jesus, fucking virus rules.
I swear the Plagues and Pestilences book was the worst thing to happen to 9th ed, and that's saying something.

I get why antiking has to exist but the fluff reasons kinda rub me the wrong way, you know?

>>21566333
Not if it's like Witch Doctor. They can res anything cheaper than they are all day.

>>21566362
What are you, some kind of IRL monarchist?

>>21566347
It's cool bro, when I saw the initial rumors I was about ready to put my army on ebay but then when I got the full story I realized it wouldn't be any worse than the bullshit in 9th edition.

>>21566356
>implying virus rules are any worse than the decay rules lich armies have been using since 4th ed
get over yourself, Plagues and Pestilences is hardly a blip on the radar compared to most of the cheese in 9th

>>21566356
Eh. It's not that bad. Anyone running a couple bishops doesn't have much to worry about.
It does seriously fuck over a couple of the fluffy lists that don't have them though. Like my Knightly Orders. Godfuckingdamnit.

>>21566356
But without it I wouldn't have my Site-to-Site Transport via Virulent Purge.

>inb4 Bishop fanboy

>>21566378
/pol/ plz go. Kings are cool.

>>21566389
I heard 10th ed is finally going to give us the Green Knights book and if it's true to the fluff they'll be immune to virus, decay, and a bunch of other stuff
they'll also be broken as FUCK but Knights players act like they're entitled to broken armies so w/e

>>21566390
>Site to Site
>Virulent Purge
You cheesy motherfucker.

>>21566391
>not playing militantly feminist double queen alternate armies

>>21566411
Ugh. There's a reason those aren't tourney legal anymore.

>>21566386
Decay's easy to beat with a handful of fortifications and the "Swords to Plowshares" rule, all you gotta do is turtle for a few turns and half his army crumbles. But fucking Plague Catapults? A AoE2 plate with Virtulent that DOESEN'T need a line of sight? Fuck this shit, it's like they intended to fuck over any sort of defensive list.

>>21566416
Yeah there is - misogyny.

>>21566425
No shit, it's an aggressive game.

>>21566407
I'll believe it when I see it. They still haven't caught up with all the updates yet, some armies (like Fire Kingdoms) still only have a 6th ed book. Fucking shameful.

>>21565641
http://nicoviewer.net/sm19227595

Double the japanese for you, my friend.
>Fucking GO guy zergrushing the shogi guys army.

>>21566416
Uh what? The FAQ was pretty clear that multiple queens is ok, it's just not worth it since their so expensive.

>>21566409
Oh come off it. It's no worse than a Baron with some extra lateral movement when they loop across the board from Jester's Hex (technically risky to use on your own pieces, but when have you ever actually seen someone lose a nobility piece from that?).

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>Playing the old 3e "Poleis" expansion with a friend.
>Horde variant, so pawns only cost half their usual rate and can be respawned 1d4 turns after they're destroyed.
>Set up a knight phalanx with oracle bishops for support. Thank God for Premonition, let me add 1 more defensive d6 to my knights whenever they got attacked, stacked with the bonuses from the phalanx position.
>Equipped with lances for extra reach.
>His face when waves of pawns died before they could even touch my pawns. Even when they made it passed the lances they couldn't break the shield wall.
>Even with my knights holding the line so well it took 4 hours before my royal assassin was able to take out his king.

Good game. Too bad the oracle bishop and the phalanx wall were nerfed into oblivion...

>>21566425
>Actualy using swords to plowshares
Nigga did you ever expect to win with that shit anyway? -2BS across the board is horseshit.

>>21566462
No, the nobility re-roll is usually enough to avoid any effects of hexing your own pieces.

>>21566475
I bet he was turtling with Conversion bishops like a bitch.

>>21566471
Oracle bishops needed it.
When they backed up a rook horde, most lists could just pack up and call it a loss.

Okay I shit you not guys this is a true story happened 2 weeks ago.

>>Go down to LGS
>>Gonna play a newbie, he's usually pretty cool but still learning
>>His army: "Standard All Knights" list.
>> 6x Gryphon Knights
>> 2x Knightmage
>> Proxy King Knight
>>Rest just Knightspam with Lichbane Swords (of course).

I go to put down my army.
>> 8x Pawn
>> 2x Bishop
>> 2x Rook
>> 2x Knight
>> 1 Queen (with a shit load of gear tbh I had a lot of points left over)
>> 1 King (no mount, no phlycary)

He fucking flipped his lid, calling me cheesy and that I don't even read the fluff and how can I have knights with bishops is that even legal?

I dunno maybe you guys won't get it but I know there's a couple of oldfags who are loling right now. We fuckin laughed him out of the store.

What are some tips on building a pawn only deck? I just love to zerg rush my opponents and fill the whole board with pawns but it's hard for me to deal with lnog range Queen and Rook attacks.

>>21566497

That's true. I feel like Poleis had a lot of good ideas but it just didn't mesh with the rest of the game. Gone are the days of royal assassins (what they call "assassins" these days are laughable), double dealings, and intrigue.

Has anyone tried out a campaign tournament yet? My FLGS had one last month, took the whole weekend. Building up your forces in out of combat turns, maneuvering armies, and then getting into the nitty-gritty. Takes about 10 players to do well and costs a fortune to run though.

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>Running themed Necromancer list.
>Necrothane, Witch Queen, Towers of Bone, Zombie Pawns, Deathknights, Priests of Hate.
>No upgrades, just extra models
>Proceed to shit all over some faggots WAAC multi-princess/barons and jesters list.
MFW he flips the table.

>>21566518
>I dunno maybe you guys won't get it

That sort of setup was before my time, but I at least know of it. I even saw some ancient neckbeard whip it out at a tourney once, got his ass handed to him because his opponent was running a Sultan & Genie Queen (back before the errata), but he was the happiest I've ever seen a player just because he was running a nostalgia game.

That guy you nearly played sound like a complete tool.

>>21566518
Holy shit, that's great. He probably had never even heard of the pre-1st ed White-Book days.
Were you running any upgrades though? Because otherwise you would have been down at least 25 points judging by his list.

>>21566531
>What are some tips on building a pawn only deck?

Don't, unless you want your opponent to throw shit at you. Pawn-only death swarms are only funny once, maybe twice.

>>21566518
>>> 1 Queen (with a shit load of gear tbh I had a lot of points left over)
Whoops just read that. Disregard the question about upgrades.

>>21566518
To be fair though that's a really strong list, looks like a Netlist maybe? Didn't something like that win a few tournaments?

>>21566531

>Deck
>Deck
>Deck

Go back to /VCh/ you mouthbreathing faggot

>>21566582
It doesn't even work that well. Sure you have a defensive web, but as soon as you take anything on a diagonal, you're fucked.

>>21566518
I've met some people who didn't realise that "Chess RPG" was based off of chess.
My jonnies got real ruffled.

>>21566602
It's a variation on the Knightly Orders list, but with Griffon Knights and Lich-bane.
It's not as weak against Rook-spam as the regular Knightly Orders list because of the Griffons.

>>21566602
That's the fucking classic list, newfag.
Jesus, it's people like you that are ruining this hobby. You don't know anything about the game you play.
I bet you think en passant is cheese, don't you?

>>21566576
>>21566592
2x Crossflame Scimitars and a Helm of Obscurity

:3 I can only fluff so much. I am but a man.

>>21566656
>Helm of Obscurity
Fucking hipster. That thing is broken as hell.

>>21566656
>Double Crossflame Scimitar
>Helm of Obscurity to limit the defense penalty of the scimitars.
You're a dick!
I'm stealing that.

>>21566677
Whats that? My Invisible, Bishop-buffed, Knightguarded queen cant hear you above how awesome she is.

>>Don't mind me just going to take all your piece. Yeah sure go ahead and attack me back let's see how that works out.

>>21566703
>>Bishop Buff
>> Knightguard

CAN you even take Knights and Bishops in the same list? That would cause all sorts of timing issues.

>>21566432
>tfw I play fire kingdoms
Every new edition just makes it more noticeable too, like when I still have to declare my king with a knight formation to get the bonus to morale and movement that every other "regal" army now gets for free and everyone's looking at me like I must be playing a different game. It's really bad now 'cause there's so many players who weren't even around for 6e, everyone just thinks I'm fucking playing 'cause of all the chivalry rules still built into the army book.

>>21566740
Confirmed for newb.

>>21566740
Look at
>>21566641
You fucking scrub.

Is there a Checkers equivalent to Chess RPG?

My brother has shown an interest in playing, but I want to ease him in and even the Basic Box might be a little daunting for a complete newb to gaming in general.

Are wildmage bishops ever getting a model?

>>21566740
It's not that hard but I see where you can get confused.

Knightguard triggers during the attack phase. Bishopbuff triggers during damage resolution.

So you choose which knight is going to take the blow, then you move onto damage resolution and if that knight is in range of the bishop he gets the benefits of their buff.

Now the trick to remember is in the new edition the OPPONENT chooses which knight within range takes the blow. It's a subtle difference, but it makes a world of a difference.

Of course most Knight players don't even realize this, because they never activate Knightguard because they never run any Royalty besides the manditory king, so, you know. Not saying all Knight players are noobs or anything, they just dont have a real reason to ever see that skill.

>>21566824
>take Baron
>chop off top half an inch
>glue upside down Virus pawn on top of it
>draw boobs on it

There's your Wildmage Bishop.

>>21566835
I meant an official model, smartass. Scrachbuilding is fine as far as it goes but I'm tired of people looking at my wildmages and thinking they're uncloistered nuns.

OK guys, don't quote me on this because it's just a rumor, but I've heard some exciting stuff about 10e. Most notably the addition of a new class: the Vizier.

PROS:
+ Incredible buffer. Can grant big tactical bonuses to both combat and maneuverability for your ENTIRE ARMY as long as he's within range of your king or king substitute.
+ Not too shabby in a one-on-one confrontation, unlike most buffing classes

CONS:
-Basically has to be attached to the king if you want to reap his benefits, which can slow your king down, and pretty much eliminates any possibility of getting any use out of him in combat.
-If he gets captured, unlike a normal piece, he will start working for the enemy instead of just leaving play.
-Somewhat high point cost. I guess you can't really expect across-the-board buffs to come cheap.

Seems like a fun new strategy, though. Very high risk/high reward, which I like. Of course, if you're up against a rushdown set who can check you quickly, you might be boned, I can't imagine it'd be very easy to keep both of them safe at the same time.

>>21566879

Didn't they do that once before? It was a Pawn transformation option. Or am I thinking of something else?

>>21566834
>>Knight players don't even realize this,
>> never run any Royalty besides the manditory king

Uhh speaking of which is anyone else really worried about the upcoming King Knight? I mean I know he's like 90 bux but do Knights really need to be tougher to kill?

He has all the same options as a standard King. Mount. Amulet of Life. King-attachments See >>21566879. And all the survivability of a Knight.

I mean wtf? King of the Jungle is one thing. Helm of Obscurity is tough but it has work arounds. This is just bullshit.

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>>KNIGHTSKNIGHTSKNIGHTSKNIGHTS

OMFG can we get ONE chess thread where we don't talk about fucking KNIGHTS?!

>>21566879
>If he gets captured he will start working for the enemy instead of just leaving play

Wouldn't necrosis lists counter this by making him revive as a zombie? My lichblade list maybe would get a major buff because of this if so. I could field the Vizier with no worry of him changing sides, which would give my zombie pawns some badly needed maneuver bonuses.

>>21566923
Have you seen his point cost bro? You'll have to sink a lot in to field one and then he's a total target for the opposing forces. Enjoy him only being on the field for like two turns and then a quarter of your army's value is gone.

>>21566964

>Knights are best unit in the game
>Most customization
>Best starting stats
>Low cost

>He likes rooks

>Stillbuttmad

>>21566967
Yeah I've already thought of three ways around his flip-flopping

>Fervent Loyalty
>Necrosis
>Spirit Warriors

There's probably others too. Everyone's 10e armies will be about figuring out ways to make their vizier die on capture.

>>21566964
Yeah let's talk about the other piece that can jump over shit

>>21567008
So...Jester Thread?

>>21566437
http://nicoviewer.net/sm19227732

>>21566967
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that zombie Viziers wouldn't have any of the benefits of normal ones, if only for fluff reasons. I'm pretty sure the amount of advice that a zombie can offer is... limited. A Vampire or Lich Vizier, on the other hand, might be useful for preventing him from getting captured in the first place, AND would prevent him from being taken if you lose him to Crusaders or any other holy army (that "no undead" rule can really bite you in the ass if your opponent is playing a tricky control style army). However, I'm gonna guess that it won't be that worth it for 2 reasons:

1. templating an already high-cost piece with a template which he won't be able to use most of the time seems like a waste of valuable points
2. If TVtropes has taught me anything, it's that Viziers are traitorous by default. I'm pretty sure that if the Vizier gets overwhelmed, he's pretty much going to switch to what he perceives as the winning side even if he IS a vampire or lich, which could really fuck you over if it happens in the early game.

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>>21567011
Jester Thread.

Fuck all your shit, double jump - best value in the game.

>>21566036
I would definately like to know more about Chess RPG game systems.
Especially since my 8 y/o old and I have started playing chess together

>>21565329
Holy shit I own one of those.

>reading the CW blog
>"butcher, baker and candlestick maker will be returned to the game in 10e as a special unit option"

Yesss, my peasant list will be viable again for the first time since fucking 5e!

TO EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD:

I have a protip for you all:

DO NOT PLAY THE DIPLOMACY VARIANT!

I don't know what brain-dead monkeys they got to playtest this crap, but it is COMPLETELY unbalanced and absolutely RIFE with abuse.

There's one ability you can get for your king simply called "You Owe Me", which effectively gets him out of non-mate checks FOR FREE as long as you have diplomats (and if you've built your army right, you'll ALWAYS have them). But that's not even the worst part. The worst part is a little ability called "Diplomatic Immunity". It can be applied to ANY royalty piece, and it makes that piece LITERALLY UNKILLABLE. Seriously, as long a royalty piece with Diplomatic Immunity doesn't attack any enemy royalty and you have Diplomats, it can do WHATEVER THE FUCK IT WANTS and you're powerless to stop it. And then of course, it can break immunity whenever it wants when it's time to come in for the checkmate.

So I repeat: DON'T PLAY THE DIPLOMACY VARIANT, because it's completely abuse-or-lose.

>>21567283
Dude, read the errata before you start bitching. Diplomatic Immunity only applies to pieces on their enemies side of the board, and is lost once they make an attack roll of any kind. It's no more broken then infiltration is, and you'll never see someone bitching about that unless they went and left their king open on a flank like a dipshit.

>>21567480

Don't forget, it also depends on what the GM states. Remember, it's ChessRPG after all. The GM is there to arbitrate and help tell the story of the battles that are about to occur.

I hate it when people forget about that.

>>21567514
>3e fag confirmed

>>21568273

Shit, they did away with the GM? Jesus Christ no wonder there's such a fucking power creep.

>>21568349
Na, there's still a GM, he just has a lot less say. He's more like a Game Judge or Game Referree rather than a Game Master now.

>>21568390
10e is confirmed to make a GM-free version possible with streamlined experience rules.

>>21567054
I do not play vampire royalty, because I am not a faggot.

>>21568423
>Knight Orders fag detected
How's your homebrew mary sue order going?

>>21568399
I heard the rules actually state that GMs are now optional depending on your rule configuration. I think you only have to have one if you're playing extended phases or classic now, feel free to prove me wrong on that one though.

>>21568463
Yeah, I play Knightly Orders. So what. My other army >>21566545
Eat my ass.

>>21568489
Technically, you need one for extended or campaign, because no player is supposed to be in charge of the landscape or world, but I've never encountered a game in which the GM didn't have an army. There's a certain amount of trust involved, but if the GM starts making bullshit calls in his own favor he would get called out pretty quickly. It's sort of a self-policing system.

Rookfag here.

I've always found Bishops to be unreliable/underpowered. Sure they can have some strong effects if you roll well, but all it takes is one botched spell and you're done. Why do people insist on playing that over stuff like Fortification Rooks? Walls so much better than swingy but unreliable spells.

Hey guys I'm thinking about taking this list to the table sunday, wondering if I could get some opinions on it:

1 x Plague King with Virus AoE
1 x Dark Queen
2 x Death Knights
2 x Bone Towers
4 x Knights with Lichblades
20 x Virus Pawns
2 x Death Jesters with Wraithbone Daggers

It's for tourney play if it wasn't obvious from the size of the army. Obviously it's Jump/Disease but I'm worried about facing off against Fire Kingdom with a list like this. Also, an undead army could wipe me but no one plays undead for shit around here.

>>21568597
I would probably drop two of the Knights w/ Lichblade and swap out the Dark Queen for a full Witch Queen.
The Witch Queen/Bone Tower/Death Knight combo is too strong to pass up and is really fluffy too.
I don't know about the virus pawns. Do you plan on just zerging the middle while the knights go up the flanks or what?
Because remember that virus pawns detonate when they are killed, and that CAN affect your own units.
Death Jesters are a nice touch. Probably overcosted for what they do, but they're fun.
Consider dropping one and taking a vampire Baron for additional shits and giggles.

>>21568673
Yeah, the plan was to use the Jesters as my king killers, with knights to back them up and the Queen as my heavy hitter. Virus Pawns are just going to swamp up the middle ground to keep my forces from getting rushed by Knights Orders and such.

Somebody archive this thread. It's amazing.

>>21568844
It's on suptg but needs votes.

>>21568844
Oh god yes

>>21568725
Um. Virus pawns aren't going to do shit against knights. Knights jump. Gyphon knights even more so.

>>21568984
I'm actually going to start putting together rules for this.

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>Playing some guy at FLCS
>Running my Diamond Sharks merchants-only list
>Faggot dezgra scum I'm playing against tries to attack
>Use the goyim power to buy up his entire army
>lock in his king with the pawn ring tactic
>spend the next four hours making automatically propagating geometrical patterns all over the field while I run over to the starbucks across the street

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

>>21569010
I'd play the hell out of this game.

>>21568876
I'll plus one it if If any kind Anon could point me to a ChessRPG gameing circle/resource beyond whats been posted here

captcha: bunatic Rodman
old job description, go figure

bump

anymore interesting tid-bits?

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Alright, so I found what I think is a nice little setup. A line of pawns, a few boomerknights behind them, another, shorter line of pawns, and then a few bishops geared up to the gills, with range, rate and overwatch upgrades. No points left for a queen, but behind it all is a Lich King.

The boomerknights strike-and-return anything that threaten the pawns, which tie down attackers until the bishops blast them to bits. Lich king animates fallen pawns instantly with his Sugar Skull and gives them counterattacks with his Grim Maracas.

Slowly advancing wall of doom. Simple, right? But I've only done causal play so far. How would it do against tournament lists?

>>21569010
I'll help if you want to get a group together to do this.

>>21569010
>>21569778
>>21569051
You don't see that that would ruin it.

>>21568844
It's nothing we haven't done before.

>>21569802
I don't know, I've seen a few threads about this and I think people would probably enjoy it if it were done right and if we're wrong we'll just have wasted a little time and the jokes can resume

>>21569678
Nice list against most but a few will have a decent counter. Example:

1xPlague Jester with Trickster Buff
10x Virus Pawns
2x Death Knights
1x Bone Tower
2x Bishops with Unholy Clergy
3x Wizard towers

The Plague Jester will jump around spreading the DISEASE debuff which will tick-down your Knights and the Trickster buff gives him extra evade rolls.

The Wizard Towers will forego attacking and create an Anti-magic shell for 1d4 turns on your king

Virus Pawns to suicide-rush your pawns and then you can't rezz them right away with King. While Death Knights run in being augmented by Bone tower to mop up your Bishops

The two bishops will use the "Day of the Dead" Ritual to convert most of your dead to life and then attack you with it.

This list isn't common though and doesn't work on anyone that Isn't magic-oriented or has Holy-Buffed Bishops.

>>21569678
I don't have my book handy but it seems to me that's not enough points for most tourneys, unless boomerknights have really gone up in cost or your bishops are crazy overloaded with gear. You could probably squeeze in a queen or upgrade those pawns to something a little more substantial.

The list will work well against Knight Orders and Rookstrong lists but Fire Kingdom master race like me will make you weep with our red haired rooks and great flame bishops.

>>21569919
Fire Kingdom is outdated and more and more tourneys are banning anything older than 7e

Ok, if you don't think it would ruin it. Here is the bare bones. I have to get back to work now. You may call me KnightFag.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DhTlBB9AbjlZcXgjDcvPyWAJmxL6BXlkDxn8rfwTNvI/edit