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You’re line is long and proud. You can remember your birthers ancestors swimming through the ponds of the ancient ling forgotten home world. The slight electric current in your housing pouch keeping you breast of your current short term host condition. Slowly drowning and suffering severe burns as well as acute blood loss. There is little chance of him surviving. You can try to heal him through all your beneficent grandeur, but he may suffer extensive brain damage due to lack of oxygen or you may breathe for him and attenuate the pain he is feeling for now, patching him up for a short while. There is a third option of leaving the pouch, and since you are in water there should be no problem moving around for some time until you will need a host, however you are not fully matured yet, so such stewardship will be limited.

What does your exalted stuff do?
Roll 1d100 for action.
1d6 for pedigree.
2d10 for surroundings
1d6 for situation.
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>you're line
>you're
I am line?
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Goa'uld quest ? I'm in !

(hey, how do we roll dice, already ? Haven't played for a long time here)
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Rolled 55

>>21566117
This host may still be of use to us.
Attenuate the pain, let him breath through us.
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>>21566117
Wait, are we Goa'uld or Tok'ra?
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Rolled 5

>>21566117
Rolling for pedigree.
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Rolled 3

>>21566117
One roll for the situation.
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Rolled 6, 9 = 15

>>21566117
And 2d10 for our surroundings.

>>21566170
put 'dice+ndx' into the email field. Remove the ' marks, n=number of dice, x=type of dice.
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>>21566170
This one I have not seen. The Gods smile uppon you today, for a boon you will be granted for it!
Furiously you patch up his wounds, making blood path elements stop or divert blood flow to attenuate blood loss, shedding burnt off elements, and cutting of nerve signals from parts to vital to cut off. The Host is mighty and strong, something you have worked diligently to ensure, for yours and his benefit. Something both your parents Ra and Egeria would be proud of. How proud your queen mother would have been is questionable considering you were able to escape the purge and pass yourself in a goa'uld holy receptacle, with no thoughts of subverting Ra’s rule but just your own survival. Still such thoughts do not distract you, and you are able to ensure the host body gents enough oxygen while at the same time not being enough to debilitate. The frantic pace at which you rework the anatomy and keep the host running sheds new light into the whole process of its life and in so doing you seem to understand more of it, and perhaps set a body to use some of them in the next kel'no'reem.

With new vitality the host half swims and half walks to the shore, however even in its damaged state it finds a way to tax the body even more continuously engaging in high intensity action. You may force it to rest or tap into your own reserves of power to lend it more time.

1d100 for rest.

2d100 for surge.
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Rolled 80, 20 = 100

>>21566427
If the host dies, then we will die, since we are not yet mature enough to survive outside the pouch.
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>>21566564
The power stored for your illustrious self is being consumed to further extend the hosts life and even mend and revitalize critical systems. The host is at first surprised at his resilience but soon continues on fighting and fighting well beyond what its limits were, into higher and higher intensity. It comes down even to a vicious melle, against a foe or foes that were stronger and more ferocious then the host, but your power and continued assistance made it so that the host was able to survive such trials. The host was soon back into the fight, crawling extending, watching, spotting, reaching, hoping, when soon even you felt the the earth shake and being thrown high into the sky. A massive shock threw the host and you spinning, so that even you felt the imbalance and disorientation. Once again the host lays down mangled, now into the dry wind, leaking slushy liquids out of itself.

Once again you are to heal it, only now you are less than able to do so due to the surge. However soon enough, the host is picked up and soon tended to, if in a primitive fashion. It is still allowing you to continue. Now the choice is simple. Hold on to this host by continuing to heal it even in your precarious condition, or use the respite to heal yourself and replenish your reserves of strength at the most likely expend of the host, and your recovery into a sacred tank awaiting implantation.
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>>21566887
Let us use this respite to heal ourselves.
The host is receiving some form of medical attention; so long as it does not die, that is enough.
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As your host is tended to you divert energy to your own needs, restoring your condition as the healing powers that kept your host alive ebb slowly into nothingness, his breaths shorter and shallower, his pulse slower and faint, soon enough his body expires. At least in the care of servants of the gods you can be relatively certain that in a few hours priest will come to reclaim you. You have about a quarter of a hour to a half of hour left to try and save your host, but success is highly unlikely. You could peer out of the pouch an take a look outside.

In any case another 1d100
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Rolled 97

>>21567161
Fools! Incompetent slaves! Their inability to keep this host alive will be punished severely!
Bah! Considering the incompetence of these servants, it's better to attempt to resurrect this host ourselves.
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With indignation you set on your attempt to restore your host back to life, revisiting old and new wounds alike and remembering that a lot of them are internal injuries that can not be healed very well without a hand device could not be healed. The host is dead and gone now even with such a implement of goa'uld benediction, however your will cannot be thwarted and seeing fit that this shall be another miracle performed by your glorious self you spare no means to mend the wounds and give the host life back again. once you are done, its heart beats on his own, and ragged breaths are drawn. You can even smell the incense from the priests readying the ceremony preceding your harvesting. The blundering idiots should better move on and leave you be.

In the host unconscious state his mind is racing now restarted to life by a functioning body yet still stirring back to consciousness. In its way it bumps with yours, seemingly able to do so when it should not.

Do you reveal yourself to it, cast it out or guide it back to where it should be?
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>>21567569
We are a child of the Tok'ra Progenitor, Egeria. I believe we should reveal ourselves.
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>>21567651
You are also a child of Ra psychotic mass murderer, ruler of the Goa'uld Imperium, killer and mindrapist of Asgards and doctor honris causa of the human psyche
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>>21567569
We should reveal ourself to the host, so it may know whom it owes his live and venerate us even more. Then force him to go back were he belongs.
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Reveal thyself how?

Dreamscape. Describe. And no you dont need to reveal yourself per say, just something to know the goa'uld in it is talking to it and it is closer than it should be.

Three words describing it should do it and a general background.
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>>21567691
So are you saying that we should guide our host's psyche back to where it should be?

Admittedly, SG-1 won't be kicking our ass for at least another 2000 years, so going straight Goa'uld is an option.
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>>21567727
Let's be Leviathan. Show us in the form of a giant underwater beast, either kraken or sea dragon, swimming in an endless expanse of black and blue, the waters of our homeworld, beneath us the abyss of time.

So: Leviathan, Ocean, Abyss
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>>21567727
A glowing palace of crystal in space.
"Your service to me has been rewarded, for I have returned you to life. But your mind treads dangerously close to where it should not. Return to the waking world."
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>>21567792
You cant speak. You can share from your memory. Thus why i need three adjectives since its going to be a memory/meat puzzle of various things you got from your genetic memory or your dreams.

It itself cannot do more than either act in said dreams or respond in kind, if it's puny mind can realize it.
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>>21567773
This goes.

Writing Update.
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In murky waters it can now see, darkness and chaos swirls around it everywhere as simple goa'uld and sealife run panicked as the predator runs them down slowly but certainly, and its eyes and forehead glow for it itself is now goa'uld and will not relent.

A Lord stays on the podium before its few followers. The storm is drizzling and lighting flashes. Darkened Clouds as the murky abyss reign heavy on the landscape doted with mangled corpses and discarded objects. The Eyes glow again, the same eyes.

Many images follow, of goa'uld implantation, damp and slippery entering the fresh cut pouch inside a juvenile warrior on a altar beside boundless waters.

Harvesting of goa'uld from seasoned warriors now dead, drowned in fog laden swamps and replaced into ancient reliquaries.

A human fighting against a invisible force and sinking deep in the water as a goa'uld takes it and its Eyes flash piercing the soul of this warriors soul.

Soon enough it understands, but it is uncertain what to do. It seems you will have to take the second step for it knows not how to back down or to move forward, and which of the two it should do.
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>>21568073
Make it move forward. Steps rise out of the waters onto land.
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>>21568152
thats nice.
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The Watters Ebb away, Steps are built by tireless faceless work crews, and nondescript lords appear and vanish with each word Arise, a rather gaudy one from a palace says, Advance another one bellows in full armour half chargin away with a army at its back, Speak commands a third impatiently in a temple or a mausoleum while overseeing progress of work.

The consciousness, still stunned would want to question you but is still wrapped in indecision about what will happen if he will do so.

A old lord sits and patiently asks, go on...

And so the torrent of the consciousness burdens unravel thinking of death, and heaven, thinking of what he has done right and wrong in his life and other such nonsense that matter to you little and are of less value. Some seem to be oddly interesting but do you really have the patients to deal with every little mistake and act of valor in a 200 year old veterans life?
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>>21568439
Why the fuck not. If its interesting we can at least look at it and amuse ourselves as long as we want. Understanding our host might come in handy. We can use that against him later on. If he survives, of course.
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>>21568439
Let's take a look at some of the interesting parts. We are uniquely vulnerable, and it wouldn't do to underestimate any potential threat.
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>>21568439
He depicts events of his lord being way more than 'slightly unhinged' as he seems to refer to it, and wading more into bonkers insane. You see him altering his lords command so that the domain of his lord and all in it may survive the various 'eccentricities' it has to go through as best as he could, but he fears he has either done to much or not enough. In any case this seems what has been heavily weighting on his soul and is the only thing he will come forward on his own. There are a a few other stray thoughts like lust, shame, anger and vengeance most likely tied to other memories, but sadly you are not his symbiont nor are you in the afterlife to judge him so you cannot access them at the moment.

How shall you respond?
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>>21568782
Some kind of comforting thought that he has done the right thing. Like have the lord on the throne nod in approval.

If the System Lord is beginning to become erratic, then the time may be right to initiate a coup.
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>>21568782
Improving upon the commands of his Lord is the best a servant can do. No outright rebellion and no slavish reliance that would cripple his own usefullness. Very nice. Show him an image of a pleased Lord.
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>>21568782
The Host is acquitted for his mistakes and allowed in its dalliance, even a small praise for choosing the correct way to act.

From more analysis on his shared dreams and memories as well as the coming exchange you find out the contact method to a very prolific human bounty hunter, a human assassination group and a criminal organization spanning across the stars, as well as find out that Sokar slaughtered half of Apohpis fleet.

Will you allow yourself to be known as his goa'uld or let him still think he is in the afterlife? And how do you intend to further proceed.

Consciousness beckons for him.
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>>21569306
Let him think that he is being called back to serve further. That there is still more work for such a diligent servant.
Let his consciousness return.

We are still immature, not able to take a true host.
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>>21569306
I think the whole point of this was so he could bask in our greatness? Of course we tell him that we are his Goa'uld!

Feel smug for what we have found out.
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>>21569362 here
I think we are just two players, for the sake of moving this along i change my vote for >>21569336
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Not confirming nor dispelling the assumption of this prime, you show him that his service is not over and that he must return to his service.

Soon enough the foreign consciousness leaves your mindscape and you set back into the usual tedious affair of being in a wounded jaffa. That would be slightly false as jaffa are always wounded or afflicted with something or somewhat that needs your express attention or they will soon die, according to your experience.

After a few days the warrior is healed and soon enough resumes activity. Happier than usual. You dont need to monitor the endorphins level. The larger amount of wounds, bruises and exposure damage when it can easily be avoided is usually a sign of a happy Jaffa. Or a punished Jafffa. The distinction is Academic however since as far as you know if the punishment was not death, the Jaffa is also happy of the outcome.

As night beckons in one of these days the host sets into the usual Kel'no'reem, you are able to oddly reconnect to the warriors mind, if you choose so.

> i think i'll be signing off here. might pick it up in the morning. Else in 18h. Reopening another thread Saturday, 14h GMT
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>>21569799
You type a bit slowly. Maybe go for smaller but faster replies sometimes. It will help bring in more players. Thats the only criticism i can give you. Otherwise being a goa'uld is fun.

For the situation:
Try out to connect to his mind. Its not like we have much other stuff to do. Monitoring life signs is rather tedious.
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>>21569904
>>21569799

And now we understand why goa'uld go evil or insane.

Hundreds of years being a disposable sapient life-sustaining equipment for rather reckless warriors.
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this is amazing i wish i had found it sooner
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archived
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21566117/
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>you're line is long and proud

nope.jpg
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bump.
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bump.
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As the Hosts balances itself and lets you restore and replenish the fatigue accumulated during the alert period, you contact its mind again, and soon enough it senses your presence.

Unknowing if he has died again or not, he is again immobilized into inaction, but questions again bout its head. Of mortality death and loved ones mostly.

Still while it seems to not discern yet you are his goa'uld it seems to be certainly developing into that direction, if some of Ra's diatribes to Egeria about the human mind is to be considered.

Truth or Masquarade?
What question what do?
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>>21580435
What were Ra's diatribes about the human mind about?
And what were Egeria's responses?

It'd help to know if this is pre- or post-Tok'ra.
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>>21580435
Truth. This is not death. We are the maturing Goa'uld within him.

The host would figure it out eventually, and at this rate possibly before we are ready to Blend with a host.
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>>21580480
Cold analytical responses and tendencies with likelihoods of decision and conclusion reaching, mostly on his experiences between Unas, Asgard and Human.

Egeria listened, quite fascinated. Not much else to do when Ra went on one of his myopic genius daydreams. You can either be enraptured or fascinated by it or feign high interest. Not knowing what the subject is when Ra throws a rhetorical question tends to have fatal consequences.
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>>21580536
Gah. Name.

I and going to make some brunch and be back in 15 min.

That is the time limit on your decision.
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>>21580528
Hm. Jaffa are actually forbidden from conversing with their unborn gods. But well, tell him. Better than him finding out by himself and trying to suicide because of RELIGIOUS TABU!
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Through great wisdom and benevolence, as well as patience, well mostly patience, you manage to reveal your identity to the Jaffa who is carrying you around in the most unusual dangerous positions and near death experiences. Even by your considerable experience you cant actively recall one who managed to tax his body so hard and so often, if you would not know better you would think its deliberate or suicidal.

As soon as you finish with the rather lengthy explanation of your identity, as well as some recital about your self, involving a lot of adjectives, although you are quite certain the effort was lost on the Jaffa as they like verbs a lot, you had to go into more tedious enlightenment and insurance that nothing will happen to ... well... your Jaffa.

In your conversation you soon find also the position of the Jaffa. Prime of Wadjet, shady vassal of The Great Jade Emperor Lord Yu Huang Shang Ti.


Would you like to probe more? The meditation session should soon be over and any more dalliance will harm the body more than aid it, since you are not actively performing your intended function of thinking immune system and health insurance policy.
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>>21580799
>Lord Yu
Aw shit.
One, we're working under that batshit insane System Lord.
Two, wait, what? What the fuck happened to us? We're the son of Ra and Egeria! How are we now under a completely different System Lord and old enemy?

No, don't probe any further for now. As much as it might sting our ego, the safety of our Host has to be our primary concern, until we are fully matured.
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>>21580799
Hm. Lord Yu is actually a pretty decent liege for a goa'uld. He's very much a moderate.

Get back to fixing his body. We can have another conversation about the outside world later and we want him at peak performance so he can continue to deliver precious intelligence.
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>>21580855
Well, yes, Lord Yu is a moderate, and he'd be a decent System Lord to work under. However, that depends on whether he's already fallen to senility or not.
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>>21580875
Yeah, thats right. Depends on the exact year. I think we should ask out host the date next.

But i was actually thinking of us being a more Yu-like Goa'uld (instead of Aphophis style tyranny). We have a bit of Tok'ra in us so its only natural.
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As you retreat your presence from the warriors mind you set back on the tedious work of repairing jaffa bodies and keeping them clean of pesky bugs and microbes.

However in a stroke of genius and luck. Mostly luck. But genius was definitely involved, you see the opportunity to improve upon your host in a unthought of manner previously.

You can see a way to link up some of your bloodstream and nervous tissue to his own, ensuring that you can use goa'uld devices through the Prime and affect the world, or you can reinforce the same portions with useless detritus of yourself to cobble up a pseudo symbiote presence inside the Jaffa, which will allow you to leave it and return to it at will, so long as nothing you cant deal with should not happen outside, without your host entering the realm of Sokar. The fictional realm of Sokar. You dont want to have anything to do with the real one and neither will your current host if you have something to say about that.
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>>21581079
[ ] Goa'uld Device usage through Jaffa Host (Usable only by Yu'rs truly, of course, and not lesser symbionts.)

[ ] Host Autonomy.

Choose.
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>>21581094
Host Autonomy is too dangerous for now but hold fucking on to that idea. The tok'ra have been working on that unsuccesfully for ages, it would be an awesome bargaining chip.

So, try the Goa'uld Device usage thingy.
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>>21581094
[x] Goa'uld Device usage through Jaffa Host
This is most immediately useful to us.
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>>21581152
Goa'uld usage allows you to use goauld devices for the host. You get however no sensory imput from the host.

Host autonomy is beeing done by basicaly ripping yourself to shreds and stuffing them insidee the Jaffa. You will be a tiny head for some time, but once you grow back to size you wont have to be a fucking medical device, if you dont want to, allowing you to do other stuff.

The problem of course is defining other stuff since you cant even to proper circles in the pouch.

In essence they are both nice. And currently worthless, and basically un-replicable except by you or another symibont who would study your work and be willing to maim itself en-twain into a cripple state for quite a long time all considered.
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>>21581152
You however do have to find a host or a body of water suitable for your illustrious self or dry out, of course.
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>>21581201
I still think we should get the ability use Devices first. Then we can develop Host Autonomy.
That way, when we use a device we can concentrate on the device and let the sub-symbiote take care of the host.

>>21581241
What we really need is a way of producing mindless host bodies. All the advantage of having a human body, none of the moral qualms from the Tok'ra and Tau'ri about taking a host.
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>>21581201
This makes me even more sure in my decision to choose Goa'uld Device usage. I mean, we are nicer than usual, but we are not THAT nice, or we would be swimming with the Tok'ra now.
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>>21581265
What i mean with that is that we won't rip ourselves to shreds for our host. Thats fucked up. They are worth less than us.

>>21581255
Robot body with a sacred tank and a mind-machine interface inside? Let's become a scientific genius.
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>>21581265
>swimming with the Tok'ra now.
We really need to know about the state of the System Lords, both in- and out-of-character.
Because, Meta-wise, if this is at any time during or after the return of Anubis, being a Goa'uld is looking to be a bad career choice.
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>>21581298
>Robot body with a sacred tank and a mind-machine interface inside
This is honestly the first image that came into my head.
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>>21581334
> Be Goa'uld
> Build glorious cylindrical robot body to ally with the Tauri
> Have minor problems with the loudspeakers
> Wonder why everyone is running away or shooting you when you arrive at earth for negotiations
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>>21581390
Well, the other idea is that clone new bodies whenever the old one suffers fatal damage, to cut down on sarcophagus usage and stave off sarcophagus-induced insanity.
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As the Jaffa walks about and eats his meal you have something else between your sharp mandibles.

Namely yourself.

It is a rather painful experience, but it is less so than some of your memories. Sometimes genetic memory from the aeons of evolution is something you would really like to get rid of. You suspect your mothers last brood did not get the full dose of memories right down to evolving from chnidrians.

In while under thoughts of the various greater pains, you manage to cannibalize enough of yourself for a faint conduit through the Jaffas body, enough to allow you to activate goauld devices and supposedly even allow you to control them, if you could have gotten enough for a dedicated back-channel - as of now the same conduit serves for both function alternatively. Use with caution, as you do not want to crush, tumorize or otherwise accident yourself.


Minimal Activity till recovery or Active Measures?
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>>21581390
>Tau'ri guns stopped by Goa'uld shield
>Have to use built-in staff weapon and zat to keep SGC from bringing heavy weapons to bear
>use Goa'uld anti-gravity device to conquer stairs
"I..DO..NOT..UNDERSTAND..WHAT..IS..A..DALEK?"
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>>21581406
Cloning is trivial for a Goa'uld, if i remember right.
The question is wheter our actual body becomes weaker as it ages. If yes then we will need to use the sarcophagus anyways. Maybe working on removing its insanity incucing side effects would be worthwhile...
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>>21581265
>>21581298

What in the blazes possessed you to think that as something nice?

your original thought was it will let you to jump out and posses a human for a little while even in your juvenile state, for some joyriding while it is asleep, and then bolt back in none the wiser. Perhaps better prepare for your ascension to System Lord, with getting a optimal start-off once you mature.
>>21581255
If you will get the chance, and will grow back to do it again to the same host.
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>>21581442
Minimal Activity until we finish recovering.
We need to heal.
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>>21581473
I second this.
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Saved. I have to go out for a while. Two hours or so hiatus.

I need a adjustable spanner, or i will get flooded.
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So, are we a Goa'uld that believes in enlightened self-interest?
We don't seem to be as self-centered and egotistical as your standard Goa'uld.
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>>21582920
I think thats still kind of unclear. OP deliberately made us Tok'ra related so we could choose our own path. How we are going to play this depends largely on us, i think. We are going to have a flair for the dramatic though. Its a mandatory characteristic.
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>>21581334
Could be fun, but I do quite like that leviathan theme we had going earlier.
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>>21583176
Well, there was a Goa'uld called Moloc, so Leviathan should exist/have existed. I'm not sure if its a good idea to steal other dudes names and themes. That might lead to trouble. Dalek is a non canon name, and it even sounds egyptian!
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>>21583339
I definitely think we should start developing cloning and robot technologies as soon as we get ourselves a real host. No other Goa'uld has done anything like it, in our genetic memory.
Not only would we achieve fame for doing something no one has ever done, it would make hiding our identity easier and therefore better to hide from assassins.
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>>21583627
Maybe we can then build some real power armor for our jaffa and replace those ridiculous helmets with something more practical, but still impressive.

Didn't Ba'al clone himself hosts? It was fairly late in the show, but that means its possible...
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>>21583721
>power-armor Jaffa
Anubis' Kull Warriors won't have shit on our Jaffa!

See, I know that the Goa'uld keep their Jaffa primitive to maintain control over them. But it also means that they are less effective against other System Lord armies, and against races that don't have such restrictions on their armed forces (Tau'ri, Tolans, Lucian Alliance).
Should we upset that tradition? Become a renegade Goa'uld?
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>>21583627
They'll know we're pimping if we show up with a bio-ship for a host.
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>>21583792
Not sure. The problem is that Jaffa know jack shit about technology (and its better like this, otherwise they would rebell like, right the fuck now) and other Goa'uld aren't to be trusted, so we have to do all the science ourselves or steal it from more advanced races.

We could of course try to create a privileged caste of jaffa engineers... Through telling them that they are superior and treating them better than the others we could maybe control them. Better keep it under wraps though, system lords will be on our ass soon.

The possibilities are endless:
>Power armor
>Replace Staff weapons with a non-retarded energy weapon in a bullpup design
>Build a better ship than the Ha'tak, those things suck against late game threats
>Robot army!
>Make sarcophagus function as it should.
>EGYPTEAN GIANT MECHA
>hover-tanks!
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>>21583339

When I was a kid, watching Stargate with my younger broher, we came up with a name for a system lord: Aponus. I think in some episode someone pronounced "upon us" with this grave, serious tone like it was a BBEG's name, and since then we've used that guy in RPG campaigns and stories. So I contribute the name Aponus to this quest.
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>>21583792
Kull warriors were like dangerous only once. Then they became canon fodder, like the Jaffa. I'd be cool to have seen a Darth Vader esqe Goa'uld. One that the troops loved, becaus she fought along side them in the front line. This Gao'uld wouldn't use the staff weapons for his Jaffa. He'd use actual plasma guns, stuff that shoots faster and more accurately than the staff weapon. However trades the power. Kinda like upgraded version of the P-90s used by the Tau'ri.
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>>21583956
We can fight on the front line once we have giant mechas or tanks. No way are we risking our ass footslogging around!
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>>21583956
>>21583900
>Jaffa would rebel in an instant
Yeah, that's a big problem with this whole system. We can't efficiently mass-produce power armor and rapid-fire plasma rifles without a technically skilled industrial base, but as soon as the Jaffa become technically proficient, they'll rebel.

We need to come up with a way to have a technologically advanced and proficient industrial base, while still maintaining our iron grip on power.
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>>21584063
Hm... Maybe the key is in keeping an iron grip on the biological technologies. Happyness drugs and a biological killswitch we can trigger selectively if someone steps out of line... Maybe we should develop that drug that enables Jaffa to live without symbiotes. Its far more efficient at keeping our tech caste dependent on us than the symbiotes since we can just deny them their fix. And if we keep them away from genetics they will be unlikely to ever be capable of replicating it.

Of course we also need to seggregate the techies from the other Jaffa and make them hate each other so they check each others power and compete for our attention...
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>>21584210
The problem is, what happens if the two castes realize that they can work together against us? Or, due to meddling by another System Lord not liking us rocking the boat (or, getting meta, the SGC), our Jaffa are provided with a synthetic version of the drug. Like tretonin.

We need something that's harder to remove.
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>>21586373
>We need something that's harder to remove.

Patriotism and freedom! It works for the Tau'ri, doesn't it? Give them something to believe in that is not service to false gods.
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>>21586625
See, that's it. We make a constitutional monarchy, make the Jaffa believe that they have some say in how they are governed, and they will be immune to the temptations of other civilizations.
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>>21586698
"For God-King and Country!"
Are we turning our Jaffa British?
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>>21586698
yes i like that we acknowledge that they have individual value and worth we just also want them to acknowledge us as superior we are the child of Ra and Egeria we have a god complex but we do care and it is obvious to us that the Jafa have value bend there use to us as slaves and tools. I also think we should let our host have some autonomy or if it isint to stressfull we should rotate ourself between our most trusted advisories plus that lets us read there mined to both nip rebellion in the but and truly grok various perspectives. These two techniques we just invented will relay help with that.
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>>21586809
On an Earth-like planet somewhere in the galaxy, a troop of Jaffa wearing pith helmets plant a flag...
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>>21586901
I can live with our First Prime looking like this.

>>21586895
Well, we're still an immature Goa'uld. We're not exactly ready to Blend with a host yet.
The question is, should we embark upon this experiment once we are a System Lord? Or should we try to assemble a secret empire at the outskirts of Goa'uld controlled space?

These ideas fly in the face of tradition, and the other System Lords will not look kindly upon us making waves with such radical ideas.
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>>21587031
I think the inner council and maybe starting some technical training can begin immediately but i think we should be minor and subtle until we are a system lord at witch point go full British,
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>>21587031
We could try to contact the Asgard, or one of the other "good" races. We don't have to do this alone. Though they would naturally be very suspicious of us, and our inborn nature isn't conducive to seeking help.

If we could acquire a proper ship, we could move to another galaxy entirely, if we were willing to play the long game. Or we could start by taking a system with no gate, because those are unlikely to be noticeable or part of any Goa'uld's domain. Our race doesn't tend to use resources well at all, as evidenced by its reliance on slaves with primitive technology. As the Tau'ri show, it's possible to do some pretty amazing things without access to naquadah, so even if the system we choose is mined out, we're not sunk.
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>>21587244
The only problem with trying to contact the other races are:
1. Asgard - they're more concerned with stability than anything else.
2. Tolans - Pretty arrogant and unwilling to help.
3. Nox - Might actually help, and their cloaking tech is second to none. We might be interesting enough for them to actually assist. Though their non-interference stance is going to be a big hurdle.
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>>21587244
he is right if i remember the show right there is a throwaway line in it about how the Prometheus uses like half the naqada by volume of Goa'uld ships and is of comparable strength (though the traces of naquadria in the reactor relay help cut the need for naqada in the reactor)
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>>21587539
We don't have anything to lose by talking to the Asgard. At this point in history, the Tollan might not actually exist as a culture, but if they do, they sure as hell wouldn't be in any position to help us. It's more likely that we would be helping them.

We should keep the Nox in mind, because if we're in serious trouble and we come to them in peace, seeking sanctuary, they will probably help us.
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>>21587539
The Furlings seem prey bro though pacifist which i think we are OK with. We don't want trouble but will finish it is my character interpretation of our self. Though finding them would be a bitch and a half
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>>21587672
We don't know where exactly in the Stargate timeline we are. We're not in Yu's Prime, we're in the Prime of one of Yu's vassals, Wadjet.
It's Wadjet that's going insane.

Until we get more information about what's going on in the outside world, this could be before Ra's death at the hands of Jackson and O'Neill.
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Omeyocan might be interesting but they would likely kill us on sight.
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So, it seems that we're all mostly agreed on attempting to create a constitutional monarchy, with us as its God-King, and that we're styling our Jaffa as British soldiers when we get the chance.

And our combat form is going to be a Dalek, and our command ship is a giant genetically engineered bio-ship, shaped like a massive undersea creature.
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>>21587031
Nice. we could even have them singing Men of Harlech.

Still do consider that we are a child of RA who used humans in his armies regularly. And if we want some kind of mechanics or healers you would be better served with humans since we can snake them at will, with just a few juveniles.


As for all the nice ideas about Power Armour and Plasma Rifles,we either need to seem something like that first or spend a lot, a really long lot of effort on conceptualizing the whole thing, i believe.

Kull warriors on the other hand never were cannon fodder, except in the video game episode.

Still we can always do the eccentric. Our position and parentage is eccentric, after all.

>>21587718
The Goa'uld killed a lot of them. I doubt they would like us.

>>21587539
>>21587672

Trying to go Ba'al on another human culture is viable though Goa'ulds will usually dislike us more than usual, but going with the Asgard is a sure way to get legions of Ashraks after you and have Ra after your ass, plus the real good change of Asgard simply killing us. We are Goa'uld.
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>>21588619
>offspring of Ra and Egeria
>"I knew I should have listened to Mother."

We may not be able to make power armor at the get-go, but the idea of making actual armor that can withstand at least one or two staff blasts before being penetrated should be an easy enough project.
And the idea of wanting a faster-firing, more accurate Staff weapon is a pretty simple concept to understand; we could then further refine it so that it is less unwieldy and easier to aim, though the Jaffa may complain at first at losing their primary melee weapon.

We're not going to get Kull armor and Plasma Repeaters right off the bat, but we can try to make more efficient armor and weapon designs.
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>>21588529
Maybe try to mix in some imperial japanese into our british empire.

Also try to improve the living conditions of the normal humans. If we dont treat them as slaves but rather as normal workers i am pretty sure they'd really love us and serve as a check and balance to our Jaffa.

Only problem i see is that our humans would likely need a long time to reach a decent tech level. We could circumvent this by genetically imbuing some of them with parts of the goa'uld collective knowledge. It should be possible since queens can actually decide what parts of their memories they give to their offspring.

It would also have a lot of advantages:
1) WE stay in a godlike position since our humans would never be able to tech it up without us.
2) They owe all their technological prowess to us and our "Inspirations"
3) Its far faster than the natural way
4) We can create super specialist scientists that focuss completely on a few pursuits
5) We can use knowledge as a boon we give to those worthy and take from those who failed the state badly.

Of course, the other Goa'uld would hate our guts even more if they find out that we are handing out Goa'uld knowledge like candy...
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>>21589900
i don't think we should genetically implant the knowledge the penalty for creating a harsesus is that ALL of the system lords WILL want you and it DEAD NOW. They dont like teaching the knowledge but the personalty is much less severe well night all.
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>>21590986
I agree that genetically implanting the knowledge is a bad idea for several reasons. We all saw how Jackson turned out when he got Goa'uld memories and knowledge.

Unless we get specialists from an already advancing civilization, I think we will have to accept that this will take years to accomplish.
Or we could find/develop some kind of direct neural teaching machine to give our subjects a full education and training in a fraction of the time.
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>>21582920
The impression I get is that we're the kind of megalomaniac who honestly believes he's acting in the best interests of the people beneath him. We're like Chairman Mao in a room full of Kim Jong-ils.
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>>21592384
>have massive population of peasant farmers and uneducated slaves
>want to industrialize and bootstrap a modern military
>hampered by traditionalists and other states that don't want a new modernized power

Yeah, I can definitely see the resemblance. And considering the lord whose Prime we inhabit is a vassal of Lord Yu, our population is also likely to be of Chinese descent.
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>>21592862
Well, i hope our Great Leap Forward works out better than Mao's.

>>21590986
Well, it wouldn't be a harcesus because we could control what knowledge we can give them. So, give that one dude only the mathematics skills of the Goa'uld. The other gets everything related to Naquada refinement. A third one gets military records and tactics. It could revolutionize education!

>>21592045
Though your point about Daniel is valid too. Might be dangerous. On the other hand we would need to train our first generation of scientists ourselves and i have a hard time imagining the Great Chairman Mao sitting in a room and teaching children physics. Taking the risky but short route relying on super science is so much more Goa'uld!
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>>21593246
>Taking the risky but short route relying on super science is so much more Goa'uld!
That would be our Father, Ra, talking.

I can just imagine this backfiring on us somehow, and then it's >"I knew I should have listened to Mother."
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>>21583339
Leviathan is actually a good idea for our name, especially if we go for a constitutional monarchy:

"This is the generation of that great LEVIATHAN, or rather, to speak more reverently, of that mortal god to which we owe, under the immortal God, our peace and defence."

Let's prove Hobbes right (besides being both the mortal and immortal God).
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Man, I hope OP didn't get flooded out like he was afraid of.
I really wanted to get to gathering more information concerning the outside world and the current political situation of the galaxy.
If the Tau'ri have already started taking down Goa'uld, then we're in trouble. Even more if Anubis has already returned.
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You illustrious self goes into deep conservative status trying to gather as much strength as you can to regenerate some of the expended mass.

When you wake is not because you have finished regenerating - you are halfway done, but because your host is getting again damaged beyond acceptable limits to keep your precious hide safe. You suspect it is a direct correlation between the situation the Prime is in. He may have managed to get his less than competent master to look the other way whenever he is leading something personally. Thus he must do everything of import in person.

This has the unwelcome side effect of getting itself burnt, bashed, impaled, blown up and generally thrown around like a rag doll. It might consider that every such action of importance is worth bargaining its life. Subjectively, you disagree. It is most likely not worth yours.

You again get to healing. The Body is now comatose and inactive. You may focus solely on repair or force a Meditative state to talk with your host while doing so.
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>>21593791
Coming home from work I am hapy to report that I squeezed and isolated the kitchen sink elements just right. No water leakage and no flood.


>Players going insane with speculation about meta that might have change due to cake.
>Players going insane with scheming and potting British style mixt jaffa human armies and constructing a becoming divine royalty

Average goa'uld delusions, as always.
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>>21593521
So we go with the monarchy form of Commonwealth, then?

Perhaps, then, continue with the idea of a constitutional monarchy.
We are the supreme ruler, the God-King, but the populace may select members of a legislative body, a Parliament. This Parliament then selects from among them a Prime Minister, who shall be our second in the realm of civil affairs, while the traditional Prime shall be our second in matters of the military.

The people within our realm will then feel that they hold some measure of control over their destiny, and, feeling that their future is now theirs to protect, will fight all the harder and be far more motivated than any other Jaffa. For they are not fighting for their freedom, they already have it; they are fighting to defend their freedom from those that would take it away from them.
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>>21594221
Focus on repair, we seem to loose efficiency in healing when talking to our host... And the primary goal is to keep him alive.

If he is comatose we are going to have to work pretty hard, and we are still damaged.
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>>21594221
Force a meditative state to talk with our host.

We must know what he is doing, tell him the advantages of delegation so that he stops putting himself (and therefore, us) in personal danger, and that he needs to get ahold of a hara'kesh so that we can do some good in keeping our divine self alive.
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>>21594257
We could split the parliament into a House of Angels (Jaffa) and a House of Commons (since we are sure to have many non jaffa subjects) to prevent them trying to dethrone us. Checks and balances, mate. For everyone but us.
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>>21594231
>Average goa'uld delusions, as always.
See, this is probably part of the reason why Goa'uld are so messed up.
They spend their childhoods as nothing more than expendable life-support units for front-line infantry grunts that are constantly getting themselves hurt, all the while having all the memories of being a fully motile and independent individual.
We're trapped in this little pouch with nothing but our memories and our thoughts to keep us company, and those lucky few that are able to communicate with their hosts, meet only intellectual dwarves compared to their own intellect.

It's no wonder that Goa'uld come out childhood with a God complex. They've never had to deal with anyone smarter than them until some Tau'ri heretic fills them full of lead.
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>>21594275
I voted for not contacting him. If we can still heal him at full power and contact him i second this, otherwise, not.
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You consider contacting your host, but right now the immediate damage takes precedents.

You take over breathing for the host to prevent brain death, not that there is a wealth of information inside or anything, quite little, but for you quite precious as a diversion from your own personality split echo chamber.

Then you proceed to deal with the immediate threats, internal haemorrhaging, ruptured bowels, even piercing the pouch so that you may take a swim to reposition the heart, so as not to be pierced by a ruptured rib. Quite a effort, but invigorating in many slithering ways.

Then once you reset into more or less normal keep things from not getting pear shaped shit with undigested chilly bits on top you contact its mind again on the brink of death.

You are really without much patience and forgo the usual antics in introductory etiquette you have developed, mearly wanting to know what your little... hmmh ...well what has it gotten itself in this time.


It seems it was negotiating with some humans mercenaries about staging a totally 'indigenous' rebellion in a rivals Goa'uld dominion to stall a offensive against his lord's dominion and its home.

It seems to have been informed that they could do more, perhaps even cripple a few landed Ha'taks for some extra favours, but the meeting got ambushed from orbit, and now most likely all are dead, and with them dead the whole thread will unravel.

You are now aware of said human looks and characteristics.


What do you call your host?
What are you going to do on your new information?
State that you will correct its mistake and revive his hope, and save his home.
State that you will save his life again and he must hasten to save his home.
State something else?
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Rolled 6

State that you will save his life again and he must hasten to save his home.
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>>21594553
We could do like the Goa'ulds did in night walkers and heal one of the dead humans if we can.
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>>21594454
>State that you will save his life again and he must hasten to save his home.
>Inform him that we can use divine technology through him and that he should try to use this fact to his advantage.

I dont think we know enough of the situation to give him strategic advice or something. We also don't know his name, so just call him Prime.
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>>21594454
>What do you call your host?
Do you mean our nickname for him, or his actual name?
Actual name: Xia Chu (seeing as we're a vassal of Yu)
Nickname: First or Prime

>What are you going to do on your new information?
State that you will save his life again and he must hasten to save his home, and that through us, he will be able to use divine weapons such as a Healing Device and Ribbon Device.
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>State that you will correct its mistake and revive his hope, and save his home.
I'd like to do this, but without knowing what we have available, strategic dispositions of forces, knowledge about the indigenous cultures of our enemy, we can't really begin to fix a problem of this magnitude.
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>>21594593
>>21594573
You are aware that they will amount to nothing against a fleet of Ha'taks

And if he cant pilot star craft he wont be able to suddenly know how to (those are divine too) just Kara and Hara'kesh and the Healing device. Two of them owned exclusively by goa'uld and one only by Ashraks. Mighty hard to get your hands on something like that.
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>>21594637
we can just heal a human and the rebellion he worked for goes on as planned, perhaps even make the human consider its reviving the favour they wanted to try and take out the landed Ha'tak's
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>>21594672
Of course they're nothing compared to a fleet. But having access to even one of the devices (seeing as he is Wadjet's Prime, may get him access to such devices) would be useful on a personal level.

>>21594683
I don't know if we can heal a human like that. I don't know if we're mature enough to take a host, rather than being carried by a Jaffa.
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>>21594672
I've got 88 apm, can I pilot star craft?
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Oh bother. Indecisiveness. Now that is not very Goau'uld like.

The option is simple.

Be bold and risk for reward.
Not care/pass.
something else.


You are goa'uld nothing good will happen for you without proportional personal risk.
And with that I am of to dinner, letting you stew in this argument, perhaps to pick up the result when i am done eating my soon to be cooked fried potatoes with cheese omelette and chilli peppers, or resume on saturday.

Long work shifts give one a hunger.


Also, I love the pith helmets idea.
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>>21594672
Still tell him, maybe he can macgyver something. He will need every edge he can get.
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>>21594835
Be bold and take the risk for a reward.
We will provide advice and knowledge, and the ability to use Devices if he can acquire them.
We need to know if he came to this planet via the chapa'ai or if he has a ship.

That we were ambushed likely means that we will need to foment a real rebellion of some kind in this rival's territory.
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>>21594835
I'm always for risk and reward, but i dont really see the difference between the two options we have.
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>>21594835
Definetly risk and reward.
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Fries are done.

So risk.

gimme 5d100.

one of three chosen at random by me.
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Rolled 93, 42, 13, 51, 71 = 270

>>21594977
ok WE are Brave and Bold
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Rolled 7, 14, 14, 39, 38 = 112

>>21594977
Well, lets see where this is going.
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>>21595084
And that gentlemen, is a truly horrible roll.
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Rolled 53, 89, 27, 7, 7 = 183

>>21594977
It would be terrible if we died already.
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>>21594835
Well, if you are truly to be thought of as divine, you consider, some miracles are in order.

Sure they may not be public, but considering that one possible witness is a prime and the other a human and likely some kind of important human, well important enough to wager the destruction of a couple of Ha'taks you think that is as good a audience as ever.

You punch out of your pouch and peer over the sides. Nothing much but rubble and bodies laying around.

You slither your way to the first you can determine has not pouch thus a human, and you dont even bother much beyond fixing immediate issues, simply taking over control of the unconscious form and looking around.

The feeling is exhilarating. The sensations exquisite, the rush of pain and receptors all relating differences in pressure, temperature and status is inebriating.

However you have to cut it short. looking around another potential human is under some kind of rubble and you move to clear it out, while dragging the body near your previous host, who is adjacent to another jaffa.


The pulse in it is faint and you can see it dying. Your host however is rather simple to repair, provided you can get to it back for intensive care before it gets into another shock of similar magnitude, since the only real damage is the large amount of tiny cerebral fracture beyond the haemorrhaging and broken arm.

As you fix it good enough to survive until something can take care of it you leave it to slump again while jumping outside on the Jaffa escort.
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>>21595682
You can smell the little thing inside it. A young thing, barely something you could call a juvenile. your underdeveloped pectoral fins contract in predatory instinct. You would gnaw on its bones and devour its flesh, but your intellect gets a better idea. You burrow through loosed and ripped armour enter the pouch and greet the panicked thing with your jaws.

It squirms and tries to bite back but to no avail, with it in your mouth you cross to your prime and drag it inside. It will not be able to make the difference between your engineering projects and a new pouch, considering that you have it masked as knife wounds.

You feel tired already. This is getting really really, bothersome, but you are magnificent, progeny of the greatest leaders of the largest goa'uld factions. Debatable but you are really not going to get into a philosophy and politics argument with yourself at a time like this.

Again you peer outside and jump out, and this time straight into the neck of the second human victim, stabilizing its wounds and rising up. You look to your former jaffa host as it opens it eyes only for you to bask in attention and reveal what is going on with a simple flicker, before it sleeps again.

Such a momentous task done, you dont even bother and simply go to sleep, feeling the body slump back to the floor.

Last amounts of reserves:
Continue Healing.
Data Mining.
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>>21595704
Continue Healing.
Data Mining will have to come later; we can't act on data if our host is dead or incapable of carrying out our directives because of physical damage.
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>>21595759
I think i'll second this. I am not quite sure how this will work out, though.
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I like how we've taken charge of the situation, and have already begun to treat even other Goa'uld as nothing more than tools for our master plan.
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Hm. OP is pretty unreliable. I somewhat doubt this quest will go anywhere like this. A shame. It had a nice beginning.
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>>21597135
But he did come back to it, at least. All we can do is hope that he doesn't flake out on it a few sessions in. So many interesting quests die that way.
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I was thinking.
We are now in the body of one of the mercenaries that was going to foment a faux rebellion.
What if we turn it from a fake rebellion to a real one?
We start the rebellion, use our knowledge to make it a real threat, kill this Goa'uld rival of Wadjet's and take his holdings.

The problem though with acquiring such power and resources is that we would come to the attention of the System Lords, or at least that of Yu.
That would greatly hamper our Great Experiment.
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>>21599686
if we do this we may be able to enlist the aid of our former jafa host in securing Wadjet's assistance or at least neutrality.
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>>21599769
Perhaps by telling the Jaffa that the best way now to defend his lord and his home is to funnel weapons to this rebellion, and to if Wadjet becomes suspicious, tell the senile fool that it was all his idea to weaken his rival by covertly supporting this rebellion?
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>>21595704
we should go hunting for data. Information about the rebellion is much more important than getting this slave back up on his feet. And even if it dies while we probe it's brain, we could allways return to Prime, kill our young cousin and wait for the next opportunity. I think that's what mother would've done.
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>>21595704
also: do we have a name, or will we pick one after we matured?
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>>21600538
certainly father would not so sure about mother.
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we need to mature quickly if we want to survive and we need to minimize risk to whatever we are living in until that point. To that end we need as much information as possible about what is going on around us. Get that there data asap.
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I've red this entire thread, and I still have absolutely zero idea what's going on or being discussed.
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>>21601046
Are you familiar with the Stargate universe?
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>>21600538
Ra certainly would have, but not Egeria.

>>21600969
I disagree. We are apparently mature enough to take a host, and the host that we are in is one of the mercenary humans who would have been able to foment a rebellion on a Goa'uld controlled world. There must be more of them, and in order to use them, we need this host's face to make them trust us.
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>>21601046
It helps a lot if you've watched/know about Stargate SG-1.
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Stargate_Wiki

You can use the wiki to look things up.

We are a Goa'uld, a parasitic organism that requires hosts to survive and interact with the world. We have the advantage of having the genetic memory of our entire line, giving us knowledge of advanced technology.
The problem with this, is that we also have the memories of being genocidal psychopaths who depopulate entire worlds and basically feeds our God complex. It doesn't help that the Goa'uld Empire collectively struts around the galaxy in the guise of gods in front of their slave races.

Ra and Egeria were known as two of the most powerful Goa'uld, controlling the most territory. Ra was also the Supreme System Lord, the de facto ruler of the Goa'uld Empire.

The Empire itself is extremely fractious, however. It is constantly in a state of internal war, with System Lords controlling their fiefs and fighting each other for more technology and territory.

The Jaffa are genetically engineered humans, designed to be tougher, longer-lived, and more appropriate hosts for maturing juvenile Goa'uld. They also serve as our front-line troops.

We are planning on upsetting the millenia-old tradition of acting as a god and keeping the Jaffa and our human slaves in a state of perpetual medieval technology and worship of us.
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>>21601395
Oh, and apparently we're going to be creating a pseudo-British Empire, styling ourselves as Leviathan, and following a near Hobbes-like political policy.

I'm thinking that this is what our 'troubleshooter' will look like.
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>>21603288
And this will be our first prime.
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Bumping with our inevitable fate. That dude in the upper right corner is O'Neill.
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>>21606773
Here's hoping we get to do this first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A-aTSUXQHs
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>>21606703
So we're not doing the gold-symbol-on-forehead thing?
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>>21608364
I'm not too keen on it.
On the one hand, not doing the tatoos on the forehead thing helps to let the Jaffa think of themselves as free, and less likely to rebel.
But on the other hand, they might want something like it in order to show their position and status in the commonwealth.
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>>21608431
We can use bioengineering to give our men the finest mustaches in the galaxy.
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>>21608442
The Tau'ri have their SG Teams.
Anubis has his Ninja Jaffa.
Raiden has his Lightning and Thunder Guards.
We shall have our Desert Patrol
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>>21608364
I think we should still do it. Its a visible sign of being a jaffa, the fact that not even the freed jaffa removed their tattoo shows that they consider it part of their culture. If we reform everything too fast that may also lead to rebellion. Luckily we have hundreds of years (hopefully).

It also helps to differentiate between jaffa and normal humans. It could come in useful to keep jaffa and normal humans seperated, should one of them rebell we can use the other to keep control of the situation.
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>>21608611
We could go with facial tattoos for everyone, Minamatar style.

position, exploits, affiliation, a lot of things.
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>>21608676
I don't know. I'd prefer medals and ribbons.
"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon."

But I do see the anon's point in >>21608611
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? ... !

Still up.
Definitely deserves a update between 10 hour work-shift and going to a friday night party.
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>>21610266
Ah, excellent!
I think a few of us are still here, or at least, leaving a tab open with it set to auto-update.
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Your energies are diverted to healing the host as you go into alternating nervous system hybernation. You are exhausted.


When you wake up halfwise up, you can see through the eyes of your host your former Jaffa , but in a more foggy, and diffused way.

You can hear it talking to these new humans, and you can hear yourself talking a bit back.

No, not you, your host.

"We should be dead" you can feel yourself saying.

The Jaffa replies with a tired old face "A Lord performed a miracle this day, in saving our three lives, for it is right what we do, and we shall proceed. Correct?"

"So it is convened." the other human replies.
"We will require additional payment for the extra service."

With this you can sense a feeling of dread and excitement mounting up in your host. Anticipation. Even in its current situation of having to limp on broken bones, it has to muster its entire willpower not to get giddy and laugh at some idea.

"It will be so. The price you asked."

Surprise your host now feels, like something is missing, but mixed with elation of success.

You are now certain that you can only take over a host in full fashion when it is unconscious, and perhaps talk to it while conscious, in a more direct way then meditation memory exchange. Theoretically.

The three motion to depart this forsaken rock and back to their affairs. A lot of work seems to be needing be done.

And they dont know even the half of it.

[x] Speak / Wait and then Speak with it.
[x] Wait for a Unconscious period.
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>>21610360
>Can only Assume Direct Control when host is unconscious
Damn, I guess we're still too immature.

[x] Wait for a Unconscious period.
We need to see if these mercenaries actually plan on following through with their end of the bargain.
If not, then we can learn while we stay hidden, then take control when this merc goes to sleep and take appropriate actions.
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>>21610360
[x] Wait and find out its intentions either through rummaging through its memories (if we can) or just waiting, then Speak with it.

Its not like they can remove us without endangering the host, so we may as well contact it.
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>>21610511
These are mercenaries, though. You're assuming that they'll have enough loyalty to each other not to just shoot the one that's compromised.
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>>21608478
Splendid
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>>21610540
Right. And they are anti-Goa'uld mercs. Strike my vote, i change it to [x] wait for a Unconscious period
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>>21610568
Thats hilarious. Have our national anthem for your trouble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=podh1wht9RY&feature=related
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>>21610611
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3CudvDgnYE
How about this.

Also Helmets.
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As you wait for the host to sleep, you find out that they, well at least these two are lost from their homeworld, not knowing how to get back.

They do know how to fight and considering the political situation, they can make a living by doing what they do best. Making a lot of trouble.

The rebellion is intended to start in two months, and used as a screen for them to destroy three pyramids, which should be occupied by Ha'tak's.

After which they will be retreating to their hold, or have no plans whatsoever with the rebellion after it is started and they have done their intended damage.

As you go through one short Tel'tak ride and several chapa'ai passages the host eventually reaches a place where it sleeps, well guarded if you would wager a guess.


[ ]take over and action
[] datamining
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>>21610360
Rest for now. Mercenaries are likely to be more concerned with their own safety than Prime was, so hopefully we'll have an opportunity to recover.
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>>21610862
Datamining is most important.
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>>21610862
[x] datamining

Instead of just destroying those Ha'tak's, could we steal them? Convince Prime to loan us Jaffa who can pilot a Ha'tak, sneak them aboard, and then steal them?
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>>21610768
Isn't bad either, though there is too much talk about freedom in it. What i like about "Land of Hope and Glory" is the line "Lord who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet."

It clearly shows whom they owe their freedom, hope and glory.
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>>21610896
We also need to find a way of contacting Prime when we do take control. Anything relating to communication devices.
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>>21610914
No freedom in it.

Just Resolute Stubbornness and Unwillingness to yield.

We might want that. Sure we cant be full on god like other goa'ulds to them, but fuck if another Goa'uld tries to take them from us.

Afganistan in Space.

They sure as hell wont be absorbed into a larger empire.

Diffrent culture and all that.
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>>21610896
>>21610993

Good points. Maybe we could even get the mercs in on it. Promise them loadsa riches and to leave their comrade if they help us out with the grand theft Ha'tak.
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>>21611057
Well, you are forgetting that goa'uld have no reason not to go ballistic on the planet if the population refuses to bend its knee. It's not like they have problems with genocide or anything as they showed with the tollans.

As soon as our space fleet is gone our population is doomed if there is any serious goa'uld attack.
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We should also learn where these mercenaries are from. Information about their homeworld, general level of technology, and what these mercs are good at.
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>>21611068
We'll have to be careful not to freak the guy out when we start talking. Hopefully he'll accept "an unfortunate side-effect of saving your life" as an explanation.
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>>21611677
Maybe instead of "an unfortunate side-effect of saving your life" we can go with "the damage to your body required a more 'hands-on' approach than that of your compatriot".
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>>21611677
Hm. The two mercs seem to be lost from their homeworld. We can use that as leverage, we have the huge memories of our race and extensive knowledge of interstellar travel. Should be a piece of cake for us to send them home; if they capture us some Ha'taks!
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>>21613018
The biggest problem I have is that it's quite a major change of plans and I don't think they'll be inclined to trust us, especially if we start bringing in our own people. I'm thinking we try to bring in jaffa to capture two of the ships and talk our host through capturing the third. Once he knows how to fly it, we offer that information in exchange for being beamed to safety.

>>21611112
True. We might need something bigger than a dalek in that care.
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>>21613345
Isn't giving them a whole mother ship a bit much? Like, maybe keep it at an Al'Kesh?
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>>21614342
If we can get them to agree to that we should, my worry is that their percived risk is going to go up a lot if they have to make direct contact with our forces and we really don't want them to panic right now.
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>>21615013
We may be egomaniacal, but we should be a little realistic; they aren't our forces yet.
We have to depose Wadjet first.
Senile he may be, but I suspect he won't go down easily.
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This has still 100 posts before autosage. More than enough to finish it. Bump.
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>>21617208
We can make it a lot easier if we 'deliver' one of the ships to him at c-fractional velocities. The main thing holding us back is that we don't have a proper host, but I think if we can control an unconscious human we can probably control a lobotomised one.
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>>21622566
Well, we will see. Wadjet seems to be terminally bonkers and his Prime (who is currently the one keeping his empire running and controls his jaffa) looks to be on our side. I think we are in a advantageous position to take over if we can get our hands on those ha'tacs.
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As you prowl memories at random you see the outlay of the most prominent peaks of recent events.

Basic language, agitation and provocation mixed with some very fancy group tactics that wold make any Jaffa blush with envy and a Ashrak a run for its money.

You can see the basic idea behind dealing with the Ha'tak's since they are your focus and easy to isolate. Heavy elements. Placed in various items from anvils to jewlery. And a precisely timed assault during, before or after the initial riot of the rebellion on the landing platforms, followed by frantic assembly and even more frantic extraction.

The humans are insane and ruthless in the extreme. They dont care about anything but mayhem and destruction. A weapon of destruction will be assembled in a most crude and primitive fashion under the Ha'taks and then detonated. They will use no Naquadah, so they may pass it right beyond guards into proximity of the target, where they will assemble it, letting the unsuspecting Goa'uld land his forces and then send them to their doom. Sunshine in a Can, as the host keeps calling it, indeed.

Select one of two.

Memories:
[]People
[]Items
[]Places
Timeframe
[] Recent
[] Historical


> Just had breakfast late in the Afternoon. sorry for the delay.
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>>21622927
Oh, its back. Didnt notice...

Timeframe:
Recent

Memories:
Places
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>>21623052
I want to add: From the description those dudes are a SG team. Which is bad.
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>>21623052
Seconding this.

>>21623078
Yeah. It's looking more and more like a regular Goa'uld career is not in our future.
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Location, location, location.

Such a trivial thing that is rather one of the elements of quintessential trinity of problems and solution.


You prowl its memories of places and things of import in its dreams and memories. Slightly distorted and not sharply accurate, but you only need a general idea anyhow.
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Rolled 79, 40, 1 = 120

give me 3d100
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Rolled 76, 75, 15 = 166

>>21623149
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Rolled 65, 80, 6 = 151

The first place you get to visit is the place to be attacked as it is the most prevalent in the mind.

Three close by pyramid platforms, at the edge of a quite large if feudal city, stout houses that could pass as miniature fortresses of stone and heavy wooden doors, some with iron grid reinforcements.
Two Large stone structure serving as Barracks, one opposite the city in relation to the Pyramids guarding them from untoward attention, and the other in-between the city proper and the Stargate field. Gliders and sometimes Troop transports are present at both of the two.


The second location seems to be a planet with another non goa'uld civilization. Nostalgia and somehow scorn is filled this memory, and your own curiosity as well as intention to correlate it and make it have sense for you stirs the human on the brink of wake-up. And he does wake up.

Eventually he gets back to sleep without getting more ideas than thinking he had some jitters about the mission. somehow he feels odd about it, but decides to go to sleep.

The other place you understood to be able to puzzle is a rather unassuming forested area with several primitive villages.


Would you try again, and if so retry to revisit locations or try another instance of the previous options?
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Rolled 21, 7, 7 = 35

>>21623358
3d100 again.
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Rolled 32, 11, 52 = 95

>>21623358
Memories:
Items
Timeframe:
Recent

Let's see what weapons and equipment these mercenaries have available to them.
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Rolled 19, 44, 79 = 142

>>21623374
I second this.
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The first equipment pack you see is their standard weapons. A tool of various tubular chambers of metals and wooden hand holds, and curved receptacles. Multiple small explosives with metal tips, intended to travel down the main tube, and a metal end that can be pushed over the tubes or retracted so they can hold it better on the shoulder?

Various other similar weapons of various similar death on various scales, all pride of some union with a lot of red iconography.

Another thing you make not of is a rather keen perversion of goa'uld equipment. Parts of dismantled zat'ni'katel in a bundle and then deploying in a starlike formation once thrown that will wildly shot on everything that seems to be a target for some time, two version of it, one that will send only one shot, and one that will shoot until no targets are in the area, with a active time measurement device for them to work until it expires.

They also have a few Transphase eradication rods.

That would be it for weapons
For odd gear, they have communication devices and the aforementioned time measurement devices- mechanical in nature, able to be turned in on command detonators.

Equipment that will let them breathe under water, and not care about environmental poisons and toxins, and ways to see in the night without having to shine light.

As you try to gain insight on transportation you again stir the man to wake up. This time however it is early in the morrow and he does not suspect much.

What do you want to experience more

[] Internal issues
[] External issues
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>>21623765
1d100 for any of the two.
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Rolled 45

>>21623765
External Issues.

Also,
>red iconography
Oh dammit, we got a Russian SG team!
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Rolled 40

>>21623779
seconding this, though internal would be interesting too, we need to figure out how to take direct control...

Russian SG teams are hardcore...
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The host hastily breaks his fast, with prepared food, dry, and very effectively packed, it seems in a metallic box wrapped green in material, followed by drinking some bitter fluid and then a rather stinging highly concentrated clear alcohol in similar fashioned flasks.


Afterwards he gets to zealously fiddling with its weapon. taking it apart, caressing every piece inside and out with cloth and brush, anointing it with ceremonial oils and assembling it back again. The humans are getting more and more bizarre.

Continuing that the host puts itself through a gruelling regime of physical torture doing continuously repetitive movement of various difficulty and repetition speed. You dont see much point to them but you are able to memorise the bare-bone basics of them if not able to gather the finer points of them.
It continues on with some mock fighting without weapons, against your previous human host. You hope she will not get to hurt or she will lapse into some sever issues. Issues that might prevent the competition of the mission they have in hand seeing your host is deferential to her.

The mistress however manages to handily defeat your host in the first bouts, as they progressively get more intensive.

Your predatory instincts awaken as you continue to be defeated, hit and thrown to the floor again and again.

[] boost host
[] do not boost host
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>>21623903
[x] do not boost host
We need to push down our instincts, preserve our energy reserves, and if we boost the host he'll expect to be at that boosted level all the time.

Also, our genetic memories lack knowledge of ballistic weapons?
This explains EVERYTHING about how stupid the Goa'uld appeared to be about guns in the show.
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Rolled 88

>>21623903
I think we shouldn't boost him, we are still in hiding and need to learn more about these strange humans before we reveal ourselves.

>>21623942
Well, were should they have learned about ballistic weapons? The goa'uld basically went from cavemen to space-faring by finding antique technology. They never had the need to really develop any kind of weaponry.
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>>21623942
Ballistic Guns are somehow only something certain warlike human culture are able to think about it seems.

If they advance to fast like Tollan or Ancient or are Alien, Ballistic guns are alien concepts to them. Replicator takeover impactors dont count. The only thing that comes close to it are drones, and they are more warheadless missiles. They prefer plasma, particles and others soft sci fy weapons.

It seems something to do with relevant warfare necessity and enemy parity that determine levels of operational competence in warfare tactics and technical applications.


It is the only thing i can think of so that SF shows and similar settings in order for them to make sense.
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>>21624006
I suppose that makes sense.
Still, we should squirrel away this information.
Weapons with no need for naquidah, easy to produce, easy to use, cheap (relatively), and still effective against Jaffa?
Perfect for the non-traditional Goa'uld that we are.
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[] Do not boost.


The fights continue until eventually your host manages to get into a good position and manages to get a hold of his smaller and infuriating opponent, decorum lost in the heat of battle. However, as he is about to wait for the final sign that he won this bout he finds himself flying to the air and while hearing a metallic, 'click' sound.

You feel a blade pressing where the neck meets the shoulder. Panic shoots through you and regret that you did not boosted your host. The thing is very close to your own self and quite able to end your life as well as the hosts, should it be used properly., you assume.

"This is not correct, officer-of-orders. No weapons" your host affirms, pulse racing.

"Since when was the world correct, platoon commander? Never go anywhere without a knife. You never know what you can do with some sharp edge.", the sparring partner replies, pressing the sharp line harder almost enough to pierce blade, hard enough to start parting a bit of skin, and then it lets off.

> gained introduction into humanoid form body combat


The whole strong point soon is abuzz with commotion as they start to mobilize for travel, your host imparting orders/


[] Internal issues.

[] External issues.
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>>21624222
[x] Internal issues.
Our Goa'uld must be thinking right now that there is a fuck-ton of information to be learned from these humans, even if their technology is low.

I've been imaging our Goa'uld as just as egomaniacal as any other snake, but that he has a pragmatic streak in him, like this guy.
"Yes, I am a god, but gods can be killed. There is no substitute for knowing ones limits."
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>>21624267
I personally am unsure what would be better, so i defer to your judgement. Second.
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Rolled 5

>>21624267
this sounds like a solid plan
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"Petr, Vlad! Go get Nicola and his stuff ready, and stop trying to scam each other and the rest of your squad out of the allotted pay."

Games, and gambling, using cubes, coins or having tokens assigned by change and collecting and using them in certain orders or simple dares. Should you want to learn you now know what to look for, or at least you should be able to do ok with simple issues of the whole idea.

Petr, sharp eye, able to hit almost any target from afar, with a longer weapon similar to the one you cleaned today, the metal deployable end replaced with a wooden immobile one and with a tube over it.

Vlad, less then normal criminal but with some semblance of honour. You still would not want to be in a room alone with it with a host outside of this group however, as you see images of large foes falling before him begging for death.

Nicola, revered man of knowledge, creator of the zat'tak abomination for lack of a better word, and the constructor of their weapon of destruction.

Your host paces about giving orders on how and who to do what. You are not very attentive to that.

"Ion, get your squad in the costumes and clear our way, we want to be in the deployment zone and we want to establish and maintain the appearances. Pass by Vastila and get some of those curious things and animals to. Should keep up as odd things we should have around.

Ion, one of your hosts under prime, or something like that. Of the same affiliation as your previous lady host. Former book keeper or something similar, who will now make to be a trader, so that they be able to get inside the targeted town.

Vastila, a peculiar planet for the host, sporting a non goa'uld primitive civilization who believe in some protective phantoms or something. Trinkets and strong ores to be had. Something to make them look like traders.
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The day soon comes to a end and they move out on another planet they seem to have another hiding place where they set camp, again.

Soon enough they get ready to sleep again, your host feasting on more of the dry food again. Dull stuff. Dry. Square things, some salty some sweet. A mix of vegetables that have been previously cut to pieces, boiled and then tread with some chemical to prevent spoilage spread over the salty squares, while some dark blue mashed and hard boiled fruit that did not need the chemical due to preparation on the sweet ones.

He again finishes off with a mix of the heavy alcohol and the Bitter dark fluid.

[]Alcohol
[]Bitter Dark Fluid
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>>21624455

And a 1d100.
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Rolled 95

>>21624455
>[]Bitter Dark Fluid
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Rolled 48

>>21624455
[x]Bitter Dark Fluid
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The bitter dark fluid is a boiled off essence of a bean in the mind of the host you see as something from his homeworld.
Able to lengthen alertness, raise blood pressure and stall the need for sleep.

You divert small samples of it to yourself and are quite taken with it. In fact you seem to be highly invigorated by it, feeling you could do something.. something more and not need to doze off this night due to the lengthy day you had prowling the Platoon commander's experiences.

You believe that with a lot more of it, you might be able to replicate its effects on the host, but you certainly would love to taste some of the real thing yourself some more. Preferably soon in the near future.

As soon as he prepares to go to seep you notice the sleeping arrangement he will be spending your night is right next to your previous lady host.

Once the host proceeds to do a final ritual before going to sleep, and touches his chain, you are about to make a decision.

[] Jump to your previous host - You can do this! You can do this! I CAN DO IT!
[] Stay inside. Take a JOYRIDE! Turn from side to side! This is what the gods proscribe!
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3d100 in any case.
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Rolled 72, 90, 64 = 226

>>21624627
[x] Stay inside. Take a JOYRIDE! Turn from side to side! This is what the gods proscribe!

Aw shit, is that what a Goa'uld is like on a caffeine high?
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Rolled 61, 2, 55 = 118

>>21624627
Great, now we're high.
>Jump
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>>21624627
[] Stay inside. Take a JOYRIDE! Turn from side to side! This is what the gods proscribe!

Where is our highly superior immune system now???
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>>21624650
>>21624666
Wait, this could potentially be lucrative. The Goa'uld have never experienced caffeine before.
This could be the start of our own interstellar Opium War.

We could call it...the Coffee Wars. System Lords pitting entire fleets against one another in order to control worlds that can grow coffee beans.
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Rolled 86, 12, 71 = 169

>>21624692
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>>21624697
Alright, time to conquer earth. Or just stay with the SG team until they are back home and then taking over the CEO of Nestle. Then be high all day erry day. We shall be the equivalent of a goa'uld hobo.
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>>21624692
Immune system must recognise something as damaging or hostile to attack it.

We just willingly ingested it and we are consciously control immune systems.

See the obvious? Plus i think that if we mange to give symbiont coffee baths the effects would be similar, due to lack of choice.
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>>21624750
>space hobo
No, this is what we would end up as, surrounded by piles of caffeine dust.
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>>21624776
>>21624756

Now i am wondering how cocaine and opium affect goa'uld.
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Man, we're really hitting all of the British Empire tropes with this Goa'uld, aren't we?
We've got the idea of a social contract between the God-King and the people, willingness to advance technology and industry even if it means social upheaval for the greater glory of the empire, and now we're developing a dependence on tea and coffee (caffeine) while plotting on how to get others addicted to exert political control (Caffeine Wars among the Goa'uld System Lords == Opium War).

What next, we develop a taste for fish and chips?
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>>21625002
Simple, we restyle Ha'taks and call them Ships of the Line. Then we perform gunboat diplomacy against other goa'uld and perhaps the tau'ri.
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>>21625002
Not exactly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T1pXsJp_go
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>>21624756 Immune system must recognise something as damaging or hostile to attack it.

It's a pretty paranoid fucker all around though.
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>>21625061
>Major exports of the Tau'ri to the Levia Empire
>recordings of football matches, coffee, tea, vindaloo
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>>21625188
Our soccer team shall one day compete in the international championsship on earth. We will cheat through inserting a Goa'uld clone of ourselves into every player, enabling them to perform on a superior level. Our team will be literally godlike!
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[] Stay inside. Take a JOYRIDE! Turn from side to side! This is what the gods proscribe!


You take control as he is unconscious, sensation fills your mind. No thoughts about various things your ancestors did or said, just endless analysis and cataloguing of your information, your sensations, your experience. Well, technically your hosts CNS, but that is a minor detail that gets a swift pushed to memories and not active thoughts.

Eyes dart across the room as soon as they open up. you are met with the face of your previous host and desire washes over your entire mind. Flashes of the Hosts imagination and fantasies translate and are correlated with pinpoint accuracy with your recording of her. The amount of thoughts you can dedicate just to dwell on information is frightening, being able to even give a good guess about relevant internal matters through her skin tone, her temperature as you slightly approach your fingers to her body yet stop half a motion from touching the hairs,

And then you turn sideways being meet with the back of a rather large slab of meat You want to fight it. You want to bury a blade or shoot it in the back, preferably between the shoulder blades as it heaves from its copious breathes you want to rouse it with a kick and fight it in its full might. Win or loose its going to be one hell of a fun. You touch your weapon, as it is right beside you. Cold, sleek, a bit oily mixed with particles of dust and grime. you really want to give it a try.


What do you want more.
[] Kiss the girl
[] Fight the beast
[] Try the gun


Dice 1d100.
>Back from taking a bath. Hope you can get some control on the situation and dedicate some runtime to some planning thoughts.
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Rolled 39

>>21625324
>Try the gun
It's still a bad idea, but at least we'll get to see how it works.
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Rolled 59

>>21625324

Hell, we are a god, why are we controlled by the baser instincts of a simple host!

Lets see, if we kiss the girl, she will kick our ass and likely find out that we are a Goa'uld.

If we attack the hosts comrade we are going to get in trouble and they will very likely find out that we are a Goa'uld.

If we use the weapon we will alert everything around us to our presence which could be our doom and the team will find out that we are a goa'uld.

Can't we control ourselves?
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>>21625376
They are all bad ideas.
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>>21625407
Well, you have caffeine. In the other host you would not have had it. Do the math.

I'll go make diner. Make up your minds till then.
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>>21625456
Are the others asleep? Lets change hosts.
I worry for our original host btw. I thought Goa'Uld hosts couldn't live without them, which is why we had the option of making our host autonomous (which we didn' take).
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Rolled 15

>>21625324
Try the gun, well away from here.

And okay, we should have taken the fact that caffeine is crack to symbiotes into account and changed hosts.

We will do that as soon as we can.
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Rolled 8

>>21625324
Can we try to override these feelings and change hosts? This is seriously a bad thing.
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>>21625722
how much should i bet we dont have a silencer?

No mater how far we shoot it, questions will be asked.
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>>21625764
We might be able to play it off as a flashback if we scream incoherently about Chechens afterwards.
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>>21625764
I doubt we could hide our presence.
If we can't, I think we should say that reviving the humans after they died required a large amount of our energy, and we were unable to escape from this host. We were forced into sleep to restore our reserves, but coffee apparently does more for a Goa'uld than for a human.
In exchange for cooperating with us, and helping us steal the Ha'taks instead of destroy them, we will impart the knowledge to pilot one to this host, give them one Al'Kesh, and remove ourselves from this host once a suitable replacement is found.
They have no reason to trust us, but we can provide them with the knowledge to make this into a much more lucrative endeavor.
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Rolled 10

>>21625324
>[] Try the gun

Combined with these
>>21625764
>>21625823
If we dont have a silencer claim we had a flash back to some major action we took part in.
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We could kiss the girl and jump host betting on our greed for more experience and get rid of coffee for now.
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Rolled 12

>>21626255
yes
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Something I'm surprised we never saw more of in Stargate: Mortar Teams. There were only what 4 episodes where they were used?
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>>21627251
You know what I was thinking?
Staff cannons. Why did it take the Free Jaffa Nation to think of putting WHEELS on their Staff Cannons so that they could be moved about easily?
Are the Goa'uld and regular Jaffa so lazy as to not even do the simplest of modifications to their stolen technology (beyond changing the aesthetic of the casing so that it fits in with their divine image better)?
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>>21627251
There where? When? I never saw them...

And it was indeed a shame.
>>21627314
I think they are having extremely light deployable supports. Think Tripod Machine-gun equivalent.
They certainly don't seem heavier than a browning or a DShK.

Anyway I'll call it a day for tonight. I am dired up in imagination.
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>>21627462
Alright. You may need to start a new thread when you continue. This one is near auto-sage.
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So, question to the others.
Does Leviathan rule because of his divine mandate?
Or does he rule simply because he is the best qualified for the role of Sovereign due to his knowledge and intellect?
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>>21627607
both the later proves the former
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>>21627607
I dont see any point to this line of reasoning. We rule and reign because we rule and reign.

We dont have to make up shit justifications until we consider a successor or a replacement, and we would not be very goa'uld if we thought like that.

Unless we are the Conan or Rob Baratheon version of a goa'uld
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>>21627462
>There where? When? I never saw them...
Apparently it was just the 2.
3.09 "Rules Of Engagement"
7.04 "Orpheus"

The other search results for the medical implement.
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>>21627607
I would say the second, he reluctantly assumes leadership because the jaffa need someone to look after them and he can't trust anyone else to do it properly.
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>>21627685
We do have to come up with justifications though, because we want access to all of those nice weapons that the Tollans and the Aschen use, and in order to get ourselves out of this technological and industrial rut that we are in, we have decided to bootstrap our domain (once we acquire it).
But the problem is finding a way to prevent rebellion by our Jaffa and human subjects while increasing our technological and industrial capability.

Creating a Hobbes-inspired monarchy commonwealth was the solution to that.
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>>21627780
Unless we simply pull a ba'al with multiple domains, and human companies.

Why have one Domain when we can have multiple. Preferably two dozens. With different systems.
Redundancy and flexibility all in one.
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>>21627846
I don't know; I think we could very well end up fighting ourselves for supremacy, until we mature enough that we can cooperate with ourselves without letting the standard Goa'uld instinct to backstab each other get in the way.
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>>21627872
So beyond delusions of grandeur, a even more unhinged vengace drive than humans, grandomania, and superiority complex bordering on godcomplex we are also have dissociative identity disorder.

We are one replicator and wraith away from a happy family, aren't we?
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>>21627914
You're forgetting pathological paranoia.

But yes, I think we're fairly stable for a Goa'uld.
Except for our caffeine dependency.
Mother would be so disappointed.
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>>21627974
we aren't dependent yet so i think if we kick the habit and become a dealer we will be fine.
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>>21628021
The Spice must flow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
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>>21628096
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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I dont think we will be starting opium wars.

Intoxication has to be voluntary. Our host drank some in the morning if I recall correctly and we went only on the bender once we sampled it personally.

I do not know how easy it will be. We may perhaps need some very good marketing and promotion apparatus.



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