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What happens when the magical girl tries to wish out the warp from existence? I've tried convincing my buddies that since Tzeentch controls magic, it doesn't work, but they insist that the girls draw energy from their magical crystals or shit. What's worse, the faggot in question already pulled a galaxy-wide rez.

Can the Architect of Fate win or avert getting erased?
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>>22068390
who the fuck is the magical girl?
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>>22068398
Sailor Moon...
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>>22068427
Tzeentch tells her to fuck off of course
Tzeentch is a god, not some animu girl
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>>22068442
Tzeentch disguises himself as another entity and convinces her to work for him, while feeding her the idea that wishing the warp from existence is bad. Soon she become a sorcerer-girl.
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tzeentch waits till the last possible second and flexes his invincible plot muscles causing all her helpers/sacrifices/ offerings/whatever to turn into daemons and kill her, or tzeentch just drove her insane and she 'thinks' she can do all these things
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>>22068442
>Tzeentch tells her to fuck off of course
>Tzeentch is a god, not some animu girl

Yeah I know that, told them, then they came with some reference to the ~200th episode where they state that she is the incarnation of the creator god of the SM univer...

and they insist that she is much more powerful than him... Despite tzeentch being the god of magic... Insisting that he can't control her magic...
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As a general rule, to matter the setting, you should always consider the power of who or what is granting a wish before determining if it would grant a given desire. Unless your wish was coming from a power greater than the entire warp and all its chaos gods then it isn't going to happen. And even the emperor himself isn't that strong.
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>>22068506
You could probably purge the warp from a sizeable chunk of space, though.
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>>22068390
Simple, tell her how her spell works as planned.

That is every being in the Universe has their soul erased.

No Warp, no souls.
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>>22068503
>itsmagicidonthavetoexplainshit.jpg
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>>22068503
>Yeah I know that, told them, then they came with some reference to the ~200th episode where they state that she is the incarnation of the creator god of the SM univer...

Which would mean that Sailor Moon created the Warp as well. Which makes Sailor Moon responsible for billions upon billions of people dieing, warping or being tortured in pure agony. Every day.

And if they retort that she didn't create the warp... well, then she doesn't have the power to wish it away.
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>>22068503

Stop playing freeform.

If you're not playing freeform, stop arguing with people about fictional character power levels.
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>>22068535
>Which would mean that Sailor Moon created the Warp as well. Which makes Sailor Moon responsible for billions upon billions of people dieing, warping or being tortured in pure agony. Every day.
>And if they retort that she didn't create the warp... well, then she doesn't have the power to wish it away.

Awesome... Though I'm not sure authorship of a certain entity equals to having the power to dispell it.

>>22068529
They argued that she could... just resurrect them, despite purposefully not destroying the galaxy cauldron (river of souls analogue) in both endings...

However I support warp-tainted sailor moon.
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>>22068582
>Awesome... Though I'm not sure authorship of a certain entity equals to having the power to dispell it.

It doesn't. But if that's the logic they're using, turn it against them.

>>22068582
>They argued that she could... just resurrect them, despite purposefully not destroying the galaxy cauldron (river of souls analogue) in both endings...

If she resurrects them, then she also resurrects the warp. The material universe and the warp are two sides of the same coin. Souls and the warp are on the same side of that coin. Where there are souls, there is the warp. You cannot have a universe with souls and not have the warp.
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>>22068390
Chaos Gods are merely parts of Chaos, which is the Warp itself.
Time and causality are meaningless in regards to it.

In addition, it's not so much a singular thing as constantly, chaotically conflicting morass of that which is, that which is possible and impossibilities. Wishing it away is like, in the better scenario, like subtracting an arbitrarily large number from infinity. Futile. In the worse, it's subtracting an infinity from another. Undefined. Even so, the Warp should persist more or less unchanged, since a lack of definition is, ironically, one of it's defining characteristics.

If you imagine regular spacetime as a singular line, with a defined direction, every point on it corresponding to a single state in time, then the Warp would be a fractal maze of infinite dimensionality, connecting an infinite number of such lines.

This means, that the best you can do is cut it away from whatever universe you are in, presuming causality applies to it (see: Great Warding).

Even if you wished the warp away, it would still exist, by the merit of the fact, that nonexistence either implies or denies the possibility of existence, which the Warp is anyway. 'An ocean of its own impossibility.'

It's stupidly paradoxical by its very nature. If you took it at face value, it couldn't exist. But since it does, it can't *not* exist.
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>>22068614

The girl was standing before him. HIM! Tzeentch! He was flanked on the sides by his most trusted lords of change, their snaking heads, made in the images of his own dynamism, necks craning to see the confrontation of two titanic beings. One was the avatar of hope, light, and magic, and the other had her long golden hair tied into meatballs.

They stood in silence for what seemed like eternity. In fact it was eternity, given the non-existence of time within the impossible fortress, and as this non-time passed, the Changer of Ways admired his adversary as she withstood the shifts in the very laws of reality, by pushing at it with her inner light.

A wry smile spread across his beaked face, and he already enjoyed letting her into his inner domain.
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>>22068714
And lo, the Changer of Ways filmed his first porno
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>>22068582
>However I support warp-tainted sailor moon.

The incredibly impractical high heels and the fanservice of the short skirts makes it easy to get some Slaanesh influence in there too.
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>>22068753
It was Slaanesh all along. What a twist!
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>>22068811
Wrong! Slaanesh is obviously Sailor Venus (minus purpleness)!
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So who is Tuxedo Mask then? Emps?
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>>22068899
>So who is Tuxedo Mask then? Emps?
Pff. He wishes. Emps actually got shit done, what did Mask ever get done?
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>>22068907
Fuck Sailor Moon?
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>>22068390
It's funny because erasing the warp would mean erasing the means by which said which would come to pass.

>>22068503
...she's not?
SM is a Senshi with a particularly powerful Star Seed and the will to never fold, even when it'd be reasonable.

If anything, it'd be Sailor Cosmos.
Solution: Purify the warp with the power of all humans on earth and become a new, wholesome Warp entity.
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>>22068925
Isn't it easier to rez Big E?
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>>22068925
>Solution: Purify the warp with the power of all humans on earth and become a new, wholesome Warp entity.
>purify the warp

Which is not nearly as easy as you make it sound. Khorne, maybe. But Slaanesh is born from pleasure and excess. Not just sex and murder (and good luck trying to purify the former) but also the simpler pleasures like enjoying a good piece of music, or munching on a delicious fruit. Then there's Tzeentch and Nurgle. How are you going to purify change and decay? Both are the basic concept on which the universe is build, you can't get rid of these, and if you do you're ripping the heart out of the universe itself.
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>>22068966
I read somewhere that the Chaos Gods fear that resurrecting Big E will allow him to absorb them, essentially purifying the warp and creating a true god in power as well as in name.

Dunno from where it is though, but I suspect it's 1st ED fluff again that got buried because GRIMDARK.

But hey, SM, while fairly dark in its own right, is hopeful enough for something like that to happen. Hell, they blasted the Concept of Evil itself out of existence. This is not too different.

>>22069001

They are assholes in spite of embodying good things because humans are assholes and the Old Ones fucked up HARD before becoming hippies/dying out.

Working off of SM logic, most beings have a good core, so by uncovering it, you'd make the forces they power good as well.
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>>22069021
I see her mentally break down when she sees Nurgle's loving nature, as Nurgle loves everyone, the love which she'll feel as soon as she gets into his flabby embrace.
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>>22069047
addendum: CAN'T UNSEE! WHY AM I SUCH A PERVERT?
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>>22069021
>They are assholes in spite of embodying good things because humans are assholes and the Old Ones fucked up HARD before becoming hippies/dying out.

>Working off of SM logic, most beings have a good core, so by uncovering it, you'd make the forces they power good as well.
Cue moralfagging Sailor moon into believing she killed good things when she butchered the MoTDs, and a "not so different speech"...
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>>22069091
>>22069047
Excellent.
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Then, at long last, Usagi raised her head, staring straight into the demonic horror that has already caused innumerable men to descend into insanity. The dark god's influence fell upon her in vain, for her soul shone brightly like the clear night sky through her pristine eyes, bathing the eternally dark room in a hopeful mood-lifting aura. With conviction, she spoke.

"It ends here, changer of ways. You have toyed with good people, played them like they were puppets, and you the master, caused many to lose their lives and souls, for nothing but your personal gain!"

She pointed at him.

"This is unforgivable, and In the name of the moon, shall punish you."

The greater daemons screamed at the proclamation. None, barring the lords of change, were allowed before into the Impossible Fortress, and to reward this unusual act of hospitality with threats! Such impudence could not be allowed. Warpfire was ignited from a dozen odd directions, and demonic lightning crackled through the alien geometry, as the most powerful lords of change in existence prepared their vast might to put the challenger into her place.

A chuckle left Tzeentch's mouth, which then grew into laughter, mirthful and honest, though no sound was made: The god's response was sent directly into the minds of the assembly, and of the guest, who rolled her eyes in exasperation. Oh how many had she seen gloating about their invincibility, power and thirst for vengeance, before their just and eventual fall.
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The changer of ways wiped a single crystalline tear from his cheek, then started clapping, which echoed through the empty hall like cannon fire. "Bravo, champion of justice. Bravo! Might I ask you, what qualms do you have with me and my... siblings, yes? Because I am, my existence is, the hope in a better tomorrow, just as my brother Nurgle is universal love and equality, Slaanesh, the joy of life, and Khorne, the fire in your soul that drives you to fight on for what you believe in."

Kairos, the oracle picked up the thread. "The difference you percieve, champion of justice is less than you think. Our bodies may not be human by nature, but then, we are beyond it. We are emotions, YOUR emotions given existence in a universe of hatred."

Another lord of change, banished by a tau fire warrior continued. "Therefore, we ask you, to rethink your stance, because you are threading on shaky grounds."

To her credit, Usagi didn't flinch at the barrage of words, believing still to be in the right. "The love, the hope, the fire, and the joy... You have done nothing but to corrupt those ideas, and mutated, killed and tortured who you saw fit in their name, treating humans like lesser beings not worthy of free will, but as servants!"
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You could argue that destruction of the warp is simply according to plan. Think about it. It gets rid of Tzeentch's three biggest rivals in one go. Being the god of magic he could probably rebuild a new warp in time to suit his desires.
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Tzeentch beak shifted into a snake's maw in an instant of this non-temporal existence, only to show a wide bestial grin to the onlookers. Within the reflection of the saliva-coated teeth innumerable figures writhed and screamed in complete silence. They were dark blackened figures, and many were feminine. In some cases, their glowing red eyes cast tearful looks at her, others panicked and cowered at her presence, while a scant few threw whatever they could at her, causing magical and mechanical fire to bounce off the tooth-walls.

"This is the dark kingdom, kid. The one you so feverishly destroyed. Filled with servants drawn into fates they could not control, damned to be destroyed in your burning light. By your words, such atrocity can not be allowed, yet your deeds worked towards the exact same outcome."

He blinked, and new images burst out from behind the bird-like eyelashes. She looked into them. A young man in white looked back at her with distant eyes.

"Prince Diamond" Tzeentch explained. "Your meddling with the fabric of realspace ruined his life, his sanity and his people, merely because he didn't agree with you. Is it still justice that a man is not entitled his own choice? Because it certainly looks like what you do.
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Kyubey pretty much is Tzeentch, he even does his evil shit out of a fucked up idea of hope.
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"But, dearest sailor moon, I believe we have another guest here." Tzentch finished, leaving his disconcerting smile on. At the base of his throne, a warp portal ignited to life, allowing a shining metal-armored giant to enter through the pathway.

The new arrival was in stark contrast to the rather scantily clad Usagi. He wore massive plates of glinting armor, parchments and seals waxed on empty places praising the master of mankind, the God-Emperor. A symbol of book appeared on his chest plate, pauldron, and even his backpack. His aura radiated defiance. Fateweaver stepped forth ot announce him...

"My lord, allow me to introduce.. *ugh*" only to be cut down by his titanic sword.

The greater demons were on him within an eyeblink, sorceries and hideous appendages storming the lone warrior, who beat them back with great speed, skill and psychic power that betrayed the "brute in the armor" look one could get at first glance.
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>>22071457
Tzeentch would love such a cute pet...

...Albeit with more tentacles, maws, and claws.

Mind a request of chaos-converted Kyubey?
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>>22071573
>...Albeit with more tentacles, maws, and claws.
lol wut? He'd just turn him into a bird.
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>>22068390
If you wish the warp from existence, everything living, other than say, tyranids and necrons (...who aren't actually living), will die.

So the magical girl may or may not succeed, but if she does, she has murdered all existence.
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Warp lightning dissipated striking storm shield, daemonic limbs clawed at warded armor futilely, failing to get a hold. On the other side, the glowing sword the knight worked with had no problem penetrating the magical defenses the lords of change had. This fight was interrupted by tzeentch himself stepping into their midst, gaining the knight's attention.

"Aah. I was afraid you would be late, Lord Kaldor Draigo, Supreme Grand Master of the Ultramar... I mean, the Grey knights. Please allow me to introduce you my other guest from the materium, Usagi Tsukino. She's traveled a great distance to be here, so I guess she would appreciate if you didn't vanquish the welcoming host we prepared for this little... occasion. Is it right, sweetie?"

Sailor moon crossed her arms. "Don't even THINK you're getting away with.."

"I CARE NOT FOR THOSE WHO CONSORT WITH CHAOS, ONLY THEIR DEATH!" Draigo roared, raising his titansword to behead the girl, to drown her in his holy fury.
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>>22071716
>So the magical girl may or may not succeed, but if she does, she has murdered all existence.

Yeah and resurrects it by using her powers they claim to be infinite... Bloody wank!
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So, we got Tzeentch, Kaldor and Sailor Moon.
Throw Gendo in, please. You know he is just another avatar of Tzeentch.
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>>22071810
Please.
Tzeentch could NEVER be that charismatic.
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>>22071796
...ok, first of all, this is entirely your problem for playing free form. So everyone involved, including yourself, is equally a free form wanker. Magic sparklebutts the unicorn isn't actually worse than anyone else's free form character, they are all equally shit.

That being said, the warp is an inherent part of living things. If there are living things, there is a warp. If there is a warp, there are living things.
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>>22071831
...okay, a retarded Lord of Change who never grasped subtlety?
You know, Tzeentch only wanted to see what would happen if he made one idiotic?
> Cultists: "Great One, Master of unknown mysteries, we ask of you to help us rule this world!"
> Gendo: "THIS IS GENDO IKARI. HAVE YOU TRIED A BOMB?"
> C: "...a bomb? Isn't there another way? We kinda want to rule here..."
> G: "GENDO IKARI. A BOMB."
> C: "What... is wrong with you?"
> G: "GENDO! IKARI!"
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>>22071912
Tzeentch isn't the chaos god of intelligence, many of his plans involve people derping on a spectacular scale. "Brilliant" plans that end in retardation and mass destruction are entirely in character for Tzeentch, as Tzeentch is the chaos god of doing random shit and claiming "its all according to plan" despite the fact that there is no goal or whatever.

Also, Gendo didn't strike me as intellectually retarded, just emotionally retarded. Like most of /tg/
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>>22068390

I don't know cock about 40k, but I'd have to go with Tzeentch. The only scenario I could see a magical girl getting a one-up on Tzeentch as described would be if it happened with Madoka-style magical girls, and even then the wishes were facilitated by one of reality's sys admins.
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>>22071748
Tzeentch's chuckle echoed through the cavernous hall, causing sparks to leap forth from stalactites and stalagmites, which haven't been there before, illuminating the scene in eerie light. Suddenly the two guests were far apart from each other, though they haven't moved. It was Tzeentch's will and so, space came to existence.

"My My... So soon? You have no manners, you two. Absolutely no manners. I go all the way to pain-stakingly invite you two into my first ever audience to those who came from outside the immaterial realm, and you start wrecking my place?! Hmm?"

The god's stature changed into to a tiny bird that flew to the knight. "Does holiness your order is so fond of not include common courtesy, sir knight? Or maybe your nature is so twisted, so self-serving as ours in this little adobe?" he fanned out with his hands, laughing, encompassing the reforming chaos daemons. "You know, that would explain why you survived so well in the warp, Kaldor Draigo. That you and your petty knights and your order are... in the grand scheme of things, servants of chaos as well."

Draigo lashed out with his arm. "LIES! We serve the Emperor and only him! You of all the warp-spawned things should know better than that."
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>>22071942
Yes, Gendo is emotionally retarded. He is smart, a genius organizer and all that, but is a complete retard on an emotional level.
Which is something the Chaos gods could easily turn against him. He was willing to destroy mankind to see his wife, you don't think he'd side with them if they offered him that?

As for Tzeentch being a God of intelligence, I never said that. He's brilliant, yes, but he mostly does things for shit and giggles, and to sow chaos.
Kinda like the average player of GTA.
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>>22071956
Keep in mind, Kyuubei was a sufficiently advanced alien. He wasn't like, a pillar of reality like a chaos god.
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>>22071831
Of course. Why would he bother? That's slaanesh's turd.

>>22071843
whatever, really. it was an argument about a thought experiment involving crossing these two over, which ended rather well. But magic sparklebutts the unicorn? I... can't.. resist.

Uh.

My only regrets are not butchering the original pic hard enough.
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>>22071912
Guess who gets sacrificed first?
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The thing that confuses me the most is, when did Sailor Moon get magic wishgranting powers?

I think they're thinking of Madoka. That's probably what happened at the end of Madoka, she defeated evil and created the Warp.
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>>22071974
"Of course, of course. But that's just the justification, the surface. And what's behind the surface? Demon swords, Demonhosts, even full ordo malleus strike forces composed of nothing but jokaero, a sister coven slaughtered for their blood!" Tzeentch's feathers shone in bright blue with excitement.

"...oh my I didn't know you guys adored lord Khorne so much..." the voice quieted down, but the glow remained. "You have been away for a very loong time, Draigo."

"I.." the grey knight stammered "that's true. I don't even.. how could they become so lax as of late?"

"Again, dear knight, the surface. What I just shown you, is the surfacing of the underlying principles, the True form of your holy-doly chapter. Who knows... the next time you get..."

"Dont listen to him! He's trying to corrupt..." Sailor Moon's voice was cut off abruptly by the dark god's nod.

"Ah, yes. Much better. But anyway, who knows, that the next time you exit the warp to aid your chapter, you'll find them painting their armor blue and gluing horseshoes on them? Hmm? Of course it'll be good old Tzeentch. In fact, given the progress of the material universe, I find it quite likely. The cross shape of the necron ghost ark for example, looks like an outright homage!"

"Cut your lies, demon, lest I cut the tongue out of your miserable maw."

"Which one, Draigo?" Tzeentch laughed, and as if to punctuate his words, spit out a mouthful of tongues to a still broken body of a greater demon. The tongues burst to flame on impact, and vanished in steam. "You see, you can't..."
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Your friends are homos. Lose them.
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>>22073066
"...COSMIC LIGHT!"

The girl's voice cut through the silencing barrier, and was followed by a bright beam of light, sending the gloating god flying into a nasty set of spikes and jagged edges. Said protrusions receded back into the wall, and space-time itself contorted to cushion Tzeentch's impact, causing him to bounce back to his feet, a sizable distance away.

"Thanks" was the grey knight's response "he was getting quite annoying."

Sailor Moon was nodding. "Yup, it's time he learned when to quit!" She turned from Draigo to the grinning god, who started cracking his knuckles.

"You two make an Impressive pair... such shame I have to destroy you. But for all it's worth, enjoy your last dance." Warpfire ignited all across the throne room, spilling countless of horrors, flamers, discs, and rubric marines into the undefined space, expanding it to accomodate the hellish army. Tzeentch's form changed size to enormous proportions, and smaller lords of change seemed to grow out of every joint of his, their claws and eyes also spewing warp energy outwards.

For the two guests, things looked pretty grim, and dark.
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>>22073387
Fail less pls.
>>22073543
Then pink explosions happened. Sparkling pink explosions, and in the middle of them, a hideous yet attractive mass started writhing from excitement.

"Ooh dance party, and I wasn't invited? You break my heart, old chap."

"Not hard enough, slaanesh." Tzeentch dreadpanned.

Slaanesh then looked down, and noticed the two onlookers. "And what are those below? Playthi.. Hey! It's the grey knight grand ma.. UCK!" fortunately, it couldn't finish it's sentence, as a large axe materialized itself out of the prince of excess, scattering it in a titanic explosion, throwing both Sailor Moon and Draigo across the room.

The two, driven by an unknown urge, held each other's hands tight, seeing the other now as a sliver of order in the sea of chaos. As she got her bearings Usagi leaned close to old grey knight grandmaster. "Say... Would you like to see Tokyo?"

The space marine nodded.

When, in the next moment, Nurgle arrived, he only found Khorne and Tzeentch shouting at each other like madmen. But below that furious exterior, the master of puppets, the perfect actor, Tzeentch, was smiling.

After all, it was a pretty normal day in the warp.
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And, that's it folks
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>>22073567
Thank you, and again... thank you.
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>>22073567
UsagixDraigo my new OTP forever.
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>>22073567
>The two, driven by an unknown urge, held each other's hands tight, seeing the other now as a sliver of order in the sea of chaos. As she got her bearings Usagi leaned close to old grey knight grandmaster. "Say... Would you like to see Tokyo?"

Someone call a drawfag to draw this.
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Any drawfags here? Requesting hawt art of Draigo sniffing warp dust off of Usagi's tits.
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>>22072079
Keep in mind the Emperor was just a sufficiently advanced human and he shits all over the chaos gods.
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>>22072592

When Sailor Moon fully unleashes the power of the Silver Millenium Crystal, it grants her a wish at the cost of her life.

It just so happens that her wishes are usually something to the effect of "I wish the bad guys were stopped and we were all together and happy."
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>>22075588
>It just so happens that her wishes are usually something to the effect of "I wish the bad guys were stopped and we were all together and happy."
>and

That sneaky witch.. That's two wishes!
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>>22075739
And one of them negates the "sacrifice" requirements.
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>>22074038
seconded by writefag.
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