>>22095383
i know i've read this HFY before

>>22095383
>>22095409
I have too. I think someone was working to make it a setting but never went beyond the premise.

>>22095409
>>22095461

I don't recognize this as a HFY concept, but I want it to be now.

I want to see some Elven mages fleeing in terror from marines with fully automatic rifles.

So basically my answer is, humanity will be dicks.

>>22095496

I want to see an Elven Star Ship gracefully sailing through the void, before some hillbilly humans ram their spaceship through it at high speeds while drunk.

I think last time the OP had the idea that our solar system/section of the galaxy was like a null-magic zone, where magic had no effect. Then I think he got shot down because everyone was like, "well why don't the aliens just destroy anything that leaves the zone" or something.

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>>22095609
"Fuck off magic users! This is tech space!"

>>22095641

Hmm, no, I like the idea that magic is in part linked to biology.

Human space isn't null magic - humans just have something in their brain structure that prevents magic from working.

So, what would you do with this setting? What are the major plot hooks that people ought to watch for? Opposing factions? How well are people accepted?

And I would think that our guns and equipment are able to be influenced by magic, just not our flesh.
On that note, what if we get biotech? Are we still effected?

>>22095641
Well, what if human tech is tough enough to fuck over even magic stuff?

>>22095678
This is a setting thread now? Awesome, I'm down.

What if magic also had a hard time affecting objects the more that they had been modified beyond their original form?

Like, a lump of metal is easy. A sword, well, that's a bit harder, but still no sweat. An industrial-sized machine has a lot of finicky bits, but if you push yourself you can break out some gears. A gun from the 17-19th centuries is pretty tricky, but doable. A 20th-21st Century gun is more difficult. A current tech gun has so much plastic parts, which are a non-natural material, that its a bitch.

>>22095731
But that makes Humans OP. Why not just keep it to humans are immune to magic, but their stuff is not? Why would intricate pieces and parts of a machine be any different than small pieces of metal anyway?

Besides, I just feel like I've heard this too many times before.

>>22095753
Aliens would adapt pretty quickly by making weapons that launched non-magic projectiles with magic.

>>22095753
So? I rather like the idea of humans having at least some disadvantage.

>>22095850

Humans have the disadvantage of not being able to toss fireballs.

>>22096118
What about grenades, rockets, and missiles?

You're all overthinking this.
Take Arcanum, but IN SPACE. And without the steampunk and the magic(k) being overpowered.

>>22096171

I was thinking more standard hard sci-fi suddenly rams up against Space Opera and they beat the shit out of each other.

My thoughts?
First Contact-era human scientists have a field day coming up with ideas on how to sidestep machinery problems with magic,a lot of disappointment about learning that humans carry a null field with them, and a subsequent investigation into it limits to find how to use it despite said null field (for example, a bubble in the centre of the ship separrated from the rest with a vacuum where all of the human element lives and stays, directing the machinery and repairing of the ship through radio, light frequencies, still-science-future-bullshit, etc.)

ALTERNATELY; that kind of social vacuum that exists in like all sci-fi ( where all the spaceborne humans have the values system of 2012 Americans, possibly made edgy'n'grim [equals 'P'] from pollution and overpopulation?) straight up evaporates upon seeing that the HFY in our veins protects us from everyone else's weapons and we SCIENCE everything between Sol and Orion.

>>22097525
>>22097525

I would figure that some races would determine that humans must have no souls, and are some sort of abomination that needs erasing.

>>22095383

This sounds like the most cliche'd plot ever.

What fucking sci fi story these days doesn't have humans as descendants of some ancients?

>>22097754

That's the point. Having humans being descendents of ancients is so cliché sci-fi that this turns it into fantasy. It embraces the hand-wave as being magic instead of trying to just ignore it.

Humans would look very out of place I imagine. All of our shit is cold hard steel, and the races see this as a true representation of our race. It doesn't matter what music we make, what art we perform, because all of it would pale in comparison to the stuff that magic can create. Humans wouldn't understand in the least bit, it would be like being color blind your entire life, and all of a sudden being told that there was all these wonderful vibrant colors out there. Sure, we know about it now, but it means nothing for us. Like you said, humans are blank. To them we would look like nothing but robots trying to immitate life very poorly.

One thing would be certain though, magic is static. You can only go so far with it, but technology seems to be limitless. Humans naturally would always come up with something to counter their bullshit. You can sling magic missiles? We can sling 40 caliber uranium depleted shells from a mile and a half away, shit like that.

Ultimately, I could see humans playing a very niche role. Every one needs a neutral party, and humans would fit it very well in this circumstance. We would kind of act like judges in an official capacity, or witch hunters or something.

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>>22095383

>What will be the result of this?

RETRIBUTION

>>22095753
Iron is immune to magic as is any material chemically bonded to it; iron is just fuck all rare and illegal in the rest of known space.

>iron
>rare
I know, work with me here

>>22098231

Let's just say that it's pure iron that fucks with magic something awful.

>>22098151
Ultimately, I could see humans playing a very niche role. Every one needs a neutral party, and humans would fit it very well in this circumstance.

There's this french comic "Sillage" or "Wake" in English. Pretty much this, except humans are psychic nulls and everyone else is either psychicly dominant or psychicly dominated. Also there's only one human.

>>22098249
and thus the cold iron in folklore

and we'll say that other elements conduct magic, so embedding material inside pure iron, ie steel, doesn't work either

>>22098283
>>22098249
The Iron Age was truely a harsh time in the lifecycle of any society, alas, humans are bound by biological iron as well and lack the capacity to form biomagical circuits

pity them for they must rely wholly on iron to survive the vastness of space

>>22098283

What about titanium? Or pure Tungsten?

I can't remember if it's pure tungsten or impure tungsten that is brittle as fuck, or hard as fuck.

>>22098293
I guess it would make sense that humanity's magic nullness comes from having iron in their blood.

>>22098279
Well, if there's only one human, this isn't really the same thing.

>>22098299

Pure tungsten is one of the strongest metals know to man.

its also very rare and very expensive.

>>22098320
>>22098293

This is interesting and excellent.

>>22098323
I meant filling the neutral niche slot.

>>22098231
Iron wouldn't be needed by other races if they can just magic-up a void shield and sail out into space on a boat of wood, crystal and copper.

>>22098320

I just want to say something about this because its always bothered me and I've.never shared it with any one else.

I've always really liked the water that has that iron taste to it for some reason, because it reminded me of the taste of blood, which I've liked since a child.

that's it, just wanted to get that off my chest.

>>22098331
So, by that logic, all alien species don't have iron in their blood

I've heard cobalt is a good stand-in.

Hell, what if cobalt is the antithesis of iron's nullfying effects and creates magic if arranged in the proper chemical chain?

>>22098350

Blood tastes like copper / iron mix more than anything.

>>22098355
>cobalt is a combat drug for magic-users

>>22098350
You'd fucking love the water coming out of the tap at my school, old rusty piece of crap school with old rusty piece of crap plumbing.

>>22098350

Humans should start extracting their blood and weaponizing it.

>>22098355

Cobalt is poisonous to humans if it gets in the blood stream. I think hemoglobin with a copper core can also work as well. I want to say iridium has shown properties of reverse oxygenation too.

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Wasn't this setting called Drowtales?

>>22098400
no, humans just never developed magic, they weren't nulls

>>22098350
It's cool, I like the taste of blood too.
Like, if I get a bloody nose, and it dribbles into my mouth, I don't find the taste unpleasant.

If it wasn't for disease I'd imagine drinking the blood of one's kills would be agreeable.

>>22098400
Drowtales, where humanity use cold war space suits, navigate space in rusty boxes which they defend with WW2 style AT guns.

>>22098400

Link to where that arc start? i googled ths site, but it seems to be a fantasy-setting

>>22098424
It is customary to paint your face with the blood of your first kill. At least in hunting.

>>22098433
You're not missing anything, it's basically the worst kind of HFY, except with drow.

>>22098470

But i want this shit now, and i don´t want to wade through a lot of fantasy shit before coming to the shit i want

It would be pretty funny to see the magic races try to use Mana Shields on their space ships in the first battles.

>>22098507
it's in the paid-for section

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>>22098537

The pai... what? But this isn´t even porn

>>22098231
How bout plastic/petroleum products being immune to magic? Oil is dead plankton/sealife , we could work with the "oil didn't form in most places because ALIEN BIOLOGY" premise, keeping it a human thing.

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Sorry if this was already brought up and I missed it...

If the aliens use magic to cast a fireball, does the human die screaming, or laugh and shiv the caster in the face?

>>22098511

>Pathetic apes, you will crumble before the might of the great Tel'Warjeki Ship. This ship has been in service for three thousand years, holds the most ancient and powerful runic wood that was ever known, and within her she holds the most powerful sorcerers.
>YOU WILL NEVER PENETRATE OUR MANA SHIELDS!

five seconds later a "Javelin" mark 20 uranium depleted railgun shell traveling at the equivalent of 56% light speed passing through their invisible mana shield and hitting the ship directly, the force creating a 300 kiloton explosion.

>>22098642
if the fireball hits the human before it becomes a raging inferno? laugh

otherwise die screaming

>>22098554

you know what, just looked at the forums, and they seem all about how awesome Drows are and how they would destroy humans, because warrior-lyfestile makes you bulletproof or some bullshit, worse that Avatar. Sorry i ever asked

>>22098642

I think the premise is it wouldn't do anything to us since the fireball was magically created out of thin air and controlled by magic forces. How ever if they threw a non magical stick at us with non magic fire we could get hurt.

>>22098655
nup, magic would stop DU unless it had an iron wrapper

>>22098673

Avatar and fanbases like Drowtales' are the reason HFY is so popular here friend.

>>22095383
so, everyone are special except us?
ergo: WE ARE THE ONLY SPECIAL PEOPLE IN THE UNIVERSE!
I like it.

>>22098679

What?

>>22098687
cold iron and biologically integrated iron stop magic, everything else is fair game

although I'm not sure how magic shields stand up to RKVs

>>22098701

Rockets packed to the fucking BRIM with Iron fillings / balls / shrapnel as submunitions would completely fucking ruin everything.

>>22098681

HFY?

>>22098723

Humanity Fuck Yeah.

It became firmly imbedded into /tg/ after the release of Cameron's Avatar film.

>>22098701

Says who? This is a shell using magnetic coils traveling over 50% speed of light, that's close to 149,896,222 meters per second, 149896 kilometers per second, 93141.1 miles per second.

I dont care what magic macguffin you pull out of your ass, nothing is going to stop it.

>>22098719
heh, oh my gods, we don't even need a dispersal explosive, the shields rip the container away from the warhead and scatter the submunitions naturally; we can tell which canisters hit when their radio transceivers go out from impact with shields

>>22098746
wall of force, mang

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>>22098668
>>22098676

So... the magicly created fire wouldn't hurt, but then everything around you (like your oxygen pack) would burn, and that non-magical fire would ruin you?

>>22098755
no, according to DnD rules, the fireball is a magical bead of fire, like a matchlight, until it hits and object and explodes

humans null magic b- wait, no, humans don't null magic, they just can't perform magic, iron nulls it

so if the bead touches iron, the fireball fails, if it touches anything else

BOOM

>>22098752
If railguns can punch through shields, they can punch through walls of force. Same principles, different causes

>>22098762


Good thing we put iron in basically fucking everything then right?

>>22098762

I don't know where you guys are getting this iron thing from, it came from one guy. Read the original post, it clearly states we are all unaffected by magic, and we are null of it.

>>22098762
okay, so humans can't create magical circuits because of iron in our hemoglobin

and iron, pure iron, defeats magical forces but not natural effects created by magical forces

>iron is immune to heat/chill metal

and now we know why elves use ironwood and mithril/titanium

>>22098765
no, magical shields give deflection bonuses, they resist puncture

walls of force are no-go barriers because magic says no passing through this defined area

>>22098762

no man, we null magic, read OP´s post goddamit

>>22098772
iron alloys only prevent formation of magical circuits, that is, the formation of mana patterns, once the spell is loose only pure iron can eliminate or disrupt the waveform

>>22098773
some of us like the iron thing and are running with it; feel free to keep the original version

>>22095383
Everybody gets incredibly depressed, because no magic = no souls = no afterlife.

>>22098782

Chill dude. The question is a valid and important one. Does something mundane, but created by magic hurt a human?

>>22098765
Magic defies physics, and says fuck reality. Its basically imposing your will on it. Wall of force = Nothing may pass it, so everything affecting by magic shall now.

Unless it has a good bit of iron in it.

>>22098781
and iron basically say FU to both, right?

>>22098747
exterior elements are stripped away, it seems
>>22098679
however, anything inside a package of iron is protected from the effects

our ship-to-ship boarding craft are now called Iron Coffins

>>22098819

In the OP it mentions zapping to ash. This implies lightning, any naturally created lightning or electrical current will hurt humans. How ever magically created lightning will not.

Since lightning is natural, but magic created in this circumstance it should apply to all other variables too. Fire, ice, what have you.

>>22098821
and walls of force are super expensive anyways

>>22098823
Iron Maidens?

Hurt durr wizards r alwyys superIOR lol

>>22098833
I think OP means disintegrate spells

with a lightning bolt, the caster uses magic to create and direct an electric charge, so... at most, the bolt is no longer laser-guided when targeting iron/humans

>>22098836
I'd imagine it would be both expensive and tiresome to keep up.

>>22098833
I'd say something made by magic wouldn't hurt a human. So a fireball shot at one would go off, and it wouldn't hurt them. The initial flames wouldn't either, but after stuff starts catching on fire due to the initial magical flames, then it would start to act more like actual fire.

>>22098844
Yeah, that's way better better

>>22098856
permanency is a costly spell as well

as for the cold iron take on OP's idea, see >>22098855

>>22098773
I am the OP and I support the iron idea.

There ya go.

>>22098855

That's still implying we could be turned to ash by it, which.the op clearly says can't happen. We are completely and utterly unaffected by magic.

>>22098802

Well, from the Magic Races perspective it does. There would be mass questions on this, but I think humanity as a whole would generally be "nuh-uh, souls =/= magic!"

>>22098844

I imagine Iron Maidens referring to an elite Anti-Magic mercenary force comprised of hot chicks in power armour.

But that's just me.

>>22098877
Well, aside from side effects. You could squish someone with a boulder you magicked up into the air.

Okay, so we have three versions of this idea now.
1) Humans are immune and cannot cast magic
2) Iron and iron alloys/compounds block magical forces and the effects of magical forces
3) Only pure iron block magical forces, but does not block natural forces created by magic, though guiding elements in the spell will fizzle; humans and any other species with iron acting as an integral component in the blood cannot cast spells, dragon-blooded humans may be the only ones exempt from this ban since dragons and dragon hybrids work because of natural effects caused by magical forces; iron is rarer than gold throughout the rest of the universe and a valued anti-magical resource.

>>22098879
Yeah, I doubt many would take well being told that they don't have a soul. So humanity would probably disagree with that.

>>22098896
I... Kind of prefer the first or second. The main idea is that humans can't cast magic, no way no how. Its both a gift and a curse, kind of thing.

>>22098877
lightning bolts don't zap you to ash though, a disintegrate spell does that; but this is a universe 3 conclusion

>>22098879
You know how when you read some news about the apocalypse, even when you figure out it's bullshit, you're still kinda worried?

Can we find a way to steal magic from aliens? Is it even possible?

>>22098871
I'm universe 3 guy, how do I know you're the op and not some trickster anon trying to sow discord?

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>>22098833

Maybe not... The zapping a person to ash spell sounds like Disintegrate to me. Pure magic to target. Fire or Lightning spells don't actually apply magic to a person. They conjure plasma and give it direction. Humans don't null plasma.

>>22098924
We'd fuck with that direction though. So someone tries to lightning bolt us and it misses, because it doesn't have a target, so it just flies in a general direction.

>>22098896
Universe 3 allows for Merlin to have existed.

That is why it gets my vote.

>>22098923
You don't. But as OP I was simply saying that I supported development down the "iron" line of thought. Am entirely undecided on the level of this immunity. And the idea of iron in the blood being an effect was also cool.

>>22098934
so... things like lightning bolt scatter randomly like a thrown weapon, I'd figure a point and shoot effect would merely have bad accuracy and scatter if they miss

spell-snipers get a whole new meaning

>>22098938
Fine enough, I just came out of the Pacific Rim thread and it was a disaster once people started arguing about arguing

we never got to finish building a hypothesis on how the giant monster could ignore apparent physics

>>22098950
You think they would practice aiming if all their magic instantly seeks its target? They probably just aim in the general direction of people.

>>22098950
meteor swarm still works normally though... unless it's targeting an area of metal sheeting, but then how badly could a cluster of meteors scatter?

>>22098962
yeah, but after they rediscover humans? spell-sniping, man

>>22098923
>sow discord
Humanity are ironborn, we do not sow.

>>22098964
Should meteor swarm work?

Meteors are largely iron.

>>22098973
Ironborn, that's probably what the dragons call us

And we'd probably be best known for slaying dragons in the past (compared to the magically vulnerable races), and dragons live a looong time

They knew where we were, heck, maybe they penned us up here on earth to dispose of later when they'd built their forces back up

Too bad magic can't detect iron, cause we have a crapton of it and dragons are slow to act

>>22098972
Yeah, probably. It would be jarring at first, and I would imagine the first battle would just be a hilarious flurry of misses from the mages.

>>22098974
spellcaster couldn't have known what they were made of, it's just a massed mini-fireball spell

that or flaming rocks devoide of 'star-metal'

>>22098984

That...

That actually makes sense, considering that almost ALL of our typical "Dragonslayers" are Knights in full plate armor, and if Iron / Iron Hybrids such as steel negate or dampen magic by a fuckload, it would explain why they didn't get fucking boiled alive by the Dragon-fire.

>>22095383
>Guess that's where all the myths of elves and angels and shit come from.
There're also myths of demons/fae/old ones/whatever granting humans magical powers. Unless those witches and wizards are actually aliens.

>>22098986
for universe 3 humans, once the discovery of iron=no magic is made, every soldier would carry a piece of scrap iron over his heart like back during the world wars

it'd become a tradition or even standard logistical doctrine over time

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>>22099011

>>22099011
half-bloods of the magical races like dragons in universe 3

I think humans would probably start out as fringe traders, who no one knows where they're from. Then it'd be stories, about how a human mage won a barfight with a seemingly effortless dispel and using a metal wand. Then more stories, about pirates avoiding attacking human traders, superstitions about how it's bad luck, because no one ever hears about anyone pulling it off.

>>22099016
Steel yourself just got a whole new meaning.

>>22099005
in U2, yes; in U3, those knights had to have inferior cold iron cast at great expense in order to be protected, hence why only a few such slayers wind up in the great sagas, cold iron could only be made by casting since a forge would embed carbon into the structure, allowing magic to conduct across the surface or, in the case of steel, through the metal via the embedded carbon atoms

OP's idea about Iron being rare is retarded.

But it would fuck with scrying for new planets or landing sites, fuck with teleporting, fuck your comunications... Hell, one misplaced ferrous meteor the size of a marble could punch right through your ship, and the sensors would never even spot it!

It's not rare, you would just avoid that shit like the plague!

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>>22099038
or was it the original meaning?

>iron yourself would have been the original in U3, but hey, words evolve

>>22099049
And doom should come upon the casting races should humans ever discover their map of no-fly zones

So they treat it as rarer than gold and try to gut the human's supplies through economics

>>22099046
and now we can melt iron by efficient convection

they're doomed

>>22098896
Well, I guess those plans for the magical decanter of endless water-powered steam rocket won't fly

>>22098984
I imagine that dragons are a "big kids on the block" sort of race in galatic politics. Maybe humans were created by a member of the other races long ago as a "dragon-fucking up" sort of weapon, but then his empire was conquered, the dragons threw a few meteorites at Earth to kill him and his crew but didn't bother doing a full scouring, figuring that his ideas were insane and not dangerous.

That would make it extra hilarious when a few million years later humanity shows up.

>>22099078
nah, touching iron doesn't prevent magical objects from functioning, they just perfectly block all effects, so it could still work, the casting races just have no idea what a steam engine is

>>22099078
>Well, I guess those plans for the magical decanter of endless water-powered steam rocket won't fly
>rocket
>won't fly
>rocket
>fly

ur so fanny

>>22099049
you can't teleport steel, all of the iron will be left behind... oh god, think of the humans

>>22099086

>Dinosaurs were actually a slave race that escaped their Draconic masters

Shit just got surreal.

>>22099091
or a rocket

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>>22099102

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>>22099098
Ew, I just did.

You kind of described Wake/Sillage. You should read it, quite nice

>>22099102
Rapotors, mang, fucking raptors; I told you about the fucking raptors.

>>22099113
But all of our iron is internal, we'd just mysteriously drop dead... oh, the poor diplomats who have to explain that one.

>>22099102

The Dinosaurs were just side-victims of a meteorite designed to wipe out the iron-blooded mammalian ancestors of humans.

>>22099102
Dinosaurs are kobolds

>>22099102
Dinosaurs were the first anti-draconic experiment race, but they were meteorited to death

>>22099139
I just wanna know where the last aboleth hid

>antarctica base just went silent

...fuck

>>22099167
The russian one digging into masisve lake under the ice?

>>22099167
Which makes me wonder, should we distinguish between magic and magic-like effects from the far realm caused by aberrations? one is blocked by humans/iron, the other is not

every piece of fictions regarding strange creatures and things man was not meant to know is now suspect

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>>22099128

Actually, it means humans, for better or worse, can't be teleported by magic. Our inability to partake of this time honored sneak attack technique is no doubt a comfort to the stinking yellow fairies.

>>22099179
it's always the russians, isn't it?

I bet they'll be the first teleportation accidents too in U3

>>22099186
That's SCIENCE Teleportation, not Fairy-Faggot Teleportation.

And it doesn't stop us from just loading up a grunt pod with thick as shit armor into a mass driver and then boarding them AND leaving a massive hole in their ship.

>>22099186
A comfort until we just decide to ram their ships with iron torpedoes filled with angry soldiers.

>>22099186
will still probably cause another war once the humans get wind of the incident

average citizen of earth: they teleported the iron out of them, how horriffic

scientists and aliums: actually everything but the iron in their bodies was teleported, they died instantly

average human politician: we should show those human torturing bastards a thing or two about how we treat terrorists

So with cobalt blood, would be have blue-skinned space Elves? That's like Elves mixed with those fucking Navi. That's terrible.

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>>22099198
>>22099203

Standard human tactics, if you can't get there, you get there anyway but leave a giant hole between here and there.

Also works on mountains and the sea floor.

I'm kinda sad that U3 is the only verse to avoid the negative qualities of HFY syndrome

If this becomes a setting, and is named, I vote wholeheartedly for "Ironblood".

>>22099217
>blue-skinned space elves
Outsider all over again, do they have beards too?

>>22099198

My point was that until/unless have startrek level bullshit science, we are the slooooow race. The E.T.s have FTL and Teleportation, not to mention perfect real-time comunication regardless of distance. (barring high-iron areas of interferance, of course.)

>>22099225
Naw, Elves can't grow beards.

Leaves lots of "blue-blood" jokes open though.

>>22099224
U3 guy here, it's as good as any and is vague enough to draw in the curious.

>>22099227
Yes, but take into account, that space-battlefields with humans will likely start to become littered with iron munitions. This, combined with iron in human ships, would make any battlefield go comm-dead for the E.T.s

Humans would probably take to being "stealthy" fighters.

>>22099224
Seconded.

So, if this happened, what percentage of humans do you figure would defect over to the "magic" side?

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>>22099243

Hippies.

Nixon was right all along.

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>>22099237

Let us pray they don't un-earth the old spells for creating magnetic fields...

>>22099243
People who liked Avatar.

>>22099227
Well, we can't teleport and our cold iron navy is mostly a defense fleet because it can't travel except by gravity-affecting magics (i.e. magical alcubeirre drive affects spacetime, not the iron on the ship); but we can use magical artifacts and affecting spells at least, but not healing potions or anything that affects blood directly by magic. Our drone fleets are directed by human consciousness via scrying/clairvoyance/etc ad make use of teleportation, just like everyone else.

Beware the human Dreadnought

>In U2 we still have magic gravity devices and artifacts, teleport is still deadly, potions and spells don't work on us.

>>22099237
so long as you can draw a straight line between caster and recipient, you can get comms through; the sheer velocity of human weapons and the by-sight range of alien combat that isn't using epic artifact weapons would mean that the actual combat zone stays pretty damn clear of interference

the strategic zone, however would be prone to comms-static clouds and it could become a viable human tactic if they can hold onto iron deposits and manufacturing centers to pull a minovsky particle effect against enemy forces

>>22099277
hell, humans are limited by how efficient the magical equivalent of the alcubeirre drive is; gravity damping doesn't work because iron won't be affected by the spell unless it creates a proper field instead of simulating it by magical force

>>22099277

Wait! What race was crazy enough to make all that stuff for us?

I remember the face of the Blueblood well enough. Lean, pointy-ears, unearthly beauty, etc. etc. And that damn smugness.

He kept going on about treaty lines, laws of the ancients - all the reasons our colony ship wasn't allowed here. We tried to explain to him that we had navigation issues - that we NEEDED to set up down on that planet, or we were going to starve. That we had women and children.

He looked all smug and "lamented the situation" but spoke of laws "going beyond the lives of a mere few." He said that he was showing "mercy of a most beauteous grace" but not having the ship destroyed.

Thankfully we knew more about them than they knew about us at that time.

Old Wu snapped first. He had taken his entire family with him and he just snapped. Leaped across the deck, flailing and punching the hell outta the Blueblood. Everyone was stunned, but the Blueblood's guards pulled Old Wu off of him. I remember the look of rage on disgust of the Blueblood's face. I remember how prissy he sounded when he said that he was going to make Wu's blood boil in his veins for this transgression.

I remember his shock when he proceeded to try this, and nothing happened. And I remember that lovely look on his face when Tgasa and Jensen stabbed through the Mana-shields of his guards with the iron pipes we had sharpened.

We set up the colony and the military moved in to protect us. I heard that the Blueblood in question ended up in a Sanitorium, or something like it. Still to this day will scream about the "Ironbloods".

It's probably not true, but I like to image that we were the first to be named that.

>>22099299
black market? disenfranchised members of the Draconian supremacy?

Hell, we'd throw the drake's stranglehold on power into chaos once we show up with our own brands of imperialism and philosophies of free agency

>>22099299
Real Politik

There will be some who benefit a lot from a strong humanity.

I used to love fair-tales as a kid. Knights, dragons, princesses - Mom would always call me her little princess, even though I always wanted to be the knight.

Mom's gone now. She was the assistant governor on Ophidus. The dragons don't really understand our way of government, so they decided that "assistant governor" was about as close as they were going to get to "princess".

Apparently, back during the time when the Bluebloods rebelled, Blueblood princesses of the defeated nations and planets would just let the dragons eat them as part of that whole "victory ceremony" bullshit.

I heard they had to restrain Mom, since she nearly choked the dragon General to death on the way down the first time.

Needless to say, I was very pleased to be one of the one to test out the new Armour. Iron-plated, jet thrusters - and, best of all in my books, the pure-iron lances.

Dragon killing ain't easy, but we had it easier back then, I think. The Dragons we killed didn't realize yet that their fire didn't affect us. Setting up an inferno just made excellent cover.

>>22099396

I got the first one - bursted right out of the flames. He was a big one, I recall. At the time I told the story like he tried to eat me, but I think he was just surprised, and I didn't have any control. Flew right into his mouth and put the iron right up into his brain. Came out of there covered in black blood and brain matter and as proud as I've ever been.

My unit killed twelve more dragons in that engagement. Saved the colony. We wore the armour back into town, swaggering all the way. I remember that the Governor's Daughter - the dragons had threatened the governor by claiming her as the settlement "princess" - had wreaths of flowers they put all over our armour. We started jokingly branding flowers into the armour - vines, with a flower for each drake we killed. I heard that it became something of a fad.

Yeah, Knights generally have one of the most dangerous jobs, but I'd say join up if you have the chance. If only for the feeling of listening to one of them just fall. Or, if you're like me, doing it for the princesses.

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>>22099182

Aberrations are actually quite rare, as this plane of existence is not a good fit for them. But they are really nasty, because few of their powers are magic... It's mostly Psionics!

>>22098588
I like this idea better, just because of my verisimilitude. Iron ain't rare. Just isn't. Stuff made out of dead creatures would fit into the whole "we're blanks because biology".

Also, the whole cold-iron thing comes from only one particular mythology family.

>>22099301
We were down on Tassarral, colony under control of Mosrian, one of those Drake Kings; mopping up after the Iron Maidens had cleared out the orbital defenses for the troop lighters. One of the Maiden fire teams had gone missing in some swampy glade to the south and my boys had been sent to investigate. So we're trudging through this muck, right, and Hartford complains of migraines the closer we get to the center, like he's some homing pigeon. I told him to buck up and complain once we made sure our boys hadn't been fucked up by some asshole knife-ear assassins and he gritted his teeth like we Ironbloods do.

Suddenly, Jameson jumps his loader, Allen Carraway, as I recall, nice boy, not much good for else than lugging munitions though. Carraway goes down with steel cores in seven places north of his liver. We'd nicked some mana-shields out of an abandoned armory near the LZ and gave one to poor Carraway, slowed the penetrators down just enough to lodge in his vitals and rip open his left subclavian; he didn't last three seconds, not that we had much time to tend to him while wrestling Jameson down.

>>22099519
Then she shows up, cackling like an ass, some half-dead blueblood that liked us less than she liked the locals, real nasty bitch. We knew mind control when we saw it, hell, pretty obvious with the way our media indoctrinates us with data over the years; every cartoon trains our kids to deal with this magic shit from day one, it's in our fairy tales for chissakes. Anways, Hartford goes ballistic, starts screaming and foaming at the mouth, and we think he's gonna go next, we're all gonna go and the last handful of us are gonna go down by our own comrades in the field. you'd think that but no, Hartford jinks between mad dog and braindead for a few long seconds while the vampire bitch keeps frowning harder and harder, well, if she had a lower jaw anyways, but frustration was etched into her face. Finally, Hartford gives her a thousand-yard stare that scare the bejeesus out of everybody, Jameson comes back sobbing and crying for Carraway, and Hartford just starts walking towards the deadblood calm as can be, just fixing that stare on her.

I tell you what, I never seen any blueblood that scared, she tried to move away but Hartford just followed her like some termie-bot from the twenty-nineties and twenny-noughts. Step by plodding step, he closes with this knife-eared abomination so panicked she can't even run away and guts her until she stops moving. Brutality is SOP with undead, you gotta be thorough, no idea where that magic is lodged in their body, so everything has got to be broken and pulverized just to be sure they aren't faking.

>>22099493

Not technically. While Cold Iron is mainly European, Meteoric Iron, at least, was accepted as magical by many mythologies. Many cultures also connected iron with the smell of blood, and then connected it to the idea of "life force" - iron being the "bones" or "blood" of the Earth.

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>>22099524
We recover and move forwards, Hartford isn't complaining about the migraine anymore, and eventually track down the Maidens. All of 'em dead by a stream, helmets off; none o' the stupid cocky fuckers could've been older than twenty. We report in and get told to wait for CASEVAC to pull out the dead, so we all set up perimeter and a couple of the boys nick the Maidens' helmets - better safe than sorry after that. Anyways, VTOL comes in on twin-fans and starts loading up the bodies; Jameson and Hartford are on the list too, psychological trauma and all that, Hartford was tougher than any of the boys and he got the worst aside from Jameson... and Carraway. So's I trot up to Hartford, who's protesting the pansy-hands chopper medics, and I ask him what happened. All he did was tap his head and give me a shit-eating grin.

Fucking asshole had a steel plate from a skull fracture back when he was on the Maidens. He'd figured out which way he had to look at the bitch so her line of effect was blocked out, can ya believe it?! Woulda done those boys in the glade some good if they all had some iron meshed over their fool heads, military-industrial complex covers up losses like that, a whole Iron Maiden team to one deadie, fuckin ridiculous.

might i say...

HFY?

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>>22099396
pic related to your story

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>>22099493
>verisimilitude
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means

>>22099551
Today, Anons, we did good.

I'm slightly concerned about the "Only Pure Iron" thing.

Because it's not that much of a weakness, considering that we have exoskeletons TODAY capable of allowing a man to carry the combined gear of three soldiers without any loss in speed, so what's to stop them from just, making power armor designed for anti-human engagements, and then coating that fucker with pure iron plating?

>>22099551
>smug elves being smug
we showed'em! right, guys? Look how hard we showed'em!
yeah.

Heh, I remember I was at one of the first formal dinners on the matter of "shared mythology" with the Bluebloods. It was one of the first academic meetings on magical interference in prehistoric Earth. Was a pretty loud debate - most of the human scholars pointed to Chetha presences, while the Bluebloods insisted that lots of ruins on Earth clearly matched ancient Alonalgar architecture.

Blueblood are a funny bunch. They aren't really a deep blue - well, not the ones I saw. It's kinda like how humans have red blood, but the paler of us look more pinky. They're sort of a really pale shade of blue... but some of them were varying shades. I think the reason so many of them were pale blue is because they don't get out enough.

But yeah, what I remember most was that Professor Yukuzawa was there. Yes, THAT Professor Yukuzawa. Anyways, some Blueblood started talking about politics or some such, and of COURSE the Tempest Disagreement came up. The Blueblood leader or whatever argued that there was no way the humans could hold onto the planet. He went off listing all the magical arts the Orcs... er, Urg, had mastered. He asked, more metaphorically, I think, what humans had that could counter all that.

So Professor Yukuzawa just sort of leans over to the Blueblood's empty drink, and then, without saying anything, just gives his hand a neat shallow cut and lets his blood flow into the glass. He then looks the Blueblood and says simple "Blood of Iron, and the willingness to have it spilled". He then excuses himself to go clean up his hand. The look on that Blueblood's face.... the utter horror. That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.

>>22099629
Cold Iron tends to be pretty brittle, it can't absorb blows as well either. There's a reason we use steel nowadays.

>>22099629 see >>22099553


But that's the FUN part!

>>22099629
The inability to cast spells and the limited effect of some potions and the uselessness of others hurts us in community integration.

>>22099629

Wait, why would they want armour covered in Pure Iron???

>>22099562
1. the appearance or semblance of truth or reality; quality of seeming true

I was going to make "MUH VERISIMILITUDE" joke, but thought better of it and then derped and replaced muh with my. Sorry about that.

>>22099650

That's what I was saying.

You design power armor that can work for anti-human operations, but when engaging Magic factions you just place a layer of cold iron plating over it.

>>22099551
Yes indeed, I would say HFY.

>>22099661
In U2, yeah, it's a little OP; in U3, Knights aren't as effective because of the direct versus indirect magical phenomenon

>>22099657
alloys and composites aren't as effective at blocking magical effects in U2 and U3, non-iron atoms can 'conduct' and store magical force

you'll never see a magically enhanced cold steel blade

>>22099658
hydrocarbon chains could work, but them humans aren't magically resistant

I mean unless breathing in smog and being exposed to artificial products affects that aspect, but Nixon would be mad at us for going that route

having it be a pure element and a common one prevents Avatar-fags from making moral statements about the human/non-human dichotomy

both sides can be in a morally neutral position

>>22099712

I am now imaging what Nixon's face would be like if he finished watching Avatar.

>>22099712
hell we could link the decline of magic to the development of the Iron and Steam ages

the more iron we took out of the ground, the more we disrupted magical leylines and released the Earth's magical potential or soemthing

actually, that'd be a good reason for making iron rare, it causes advanced entropy of magical reservoirs

but that means we nailed our earth-spirit to a railroad track and ran her over with the train

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>>22099727
something like this?

>>22099735

I'm reminded of that writefaggotry about Mother Earth hating all our predecessors because they loved her, and loved us because we tore at her flesh for things we wanted, and how she was disgusted by the rest of the cosmos for taking the path of weakness.

>>22099741

More furious and internally debating whether or not he should have Cameron and the rest of the Hippie Menace assassinated.

>iron rare at all


pls no

>>22099742
The bluebloods are horrified, not because we use iron, but because we turned our Earth Mother into a psychopathic monster and intend on doing the same to every other magically dense planet we find, all while not realizing the full extent of our industry.

We are cthulhu to the elves

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>>22099742

This one?

Ever seen an Urg? It's the strangest thing, but I swear to you they look like what I'd call a mix between a werewolf and a pig. That's why the soldiers started calling them "orcs" or, if they had a really lame sense of humour, "porks". On my ship we called them "Greenbleeders". Copper in the blood and all that.

But yeah, the Urgs are very firmly entrenched in the Draconic Supremecy. And it suits them fine - they are quite happy to be mercenaries. But they do their own fighting too - they're highly territorial.

But you shouldn't think that they're all muscle, no brains. They can work magic just as well, if crudely. But they are cunning to quite a degree.

But I figure tactics like that have their worth. Like in one of the first engagements, we ran into one of their big ol' hulks. Those things are hard as hell to take down - just sheer mass. Plus these greenbleeders were getting smart, and were deploying tons of chaffe to take the brunt of our barrages.

So that's when Captain Sukov, who was notoriously short tempered, gave that order I'll never forget - "Fuck it! Fuck it, let's ram 'em!"

I knew that iron-plating the prow was a good call.

>>22099761

I feel that she is happier this way than she would be the other way.

>>22099735
>but that means we nailed our earth-spirit to a railroad track and ran her over with the train
I've heard of fantasy settings basically portraying humanity as Snidely Whiplash, but...

>>22099753

The Internet is exceedingly useful for this. Just track the people who claim they want to be elves or some shit.

>>22099783

What if Nixon found HFY?

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>>22099753
?

>>22099243
Almost everyone.
You see, creating black holes with science is fine. Creating black holes with magic is awesome. Why? If you use science, then your tools are powerful. If you use magic, then you are powerful.

>>22099735
serves that hippy bitch right.

TAKE THAT, NATURE!

>>22099776
The bluebloods don't think that and humans have no idea what the words 'planetary psychosis' means

>>22099800

Yeah, well, the Bluebloods are faggots and their shit is gay.

>>22099794
Humans who defect to the magic side don't become magic, they just get magical friends.

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>>22099788
??

>>22099809

Now I imagine the first Human-Blueblood war erupts after Bluebloods discover the internet.

>>22099812
>implying the ancients didn't do any genetic experiments
>implying they can't just find some nonmagical way to implant something in humans
>implying even if they can't, the humans who want the power wouldn't teach them

>>22099812
and magical tools and possibly, if the drakes, devils, or angels find them sexy, magic kids

>>22099794
If you create black holes with magic, you are a lazy person from a lazy race.

If you create black holes with science, your race worked at the secrets of the universe, tearing it apart in their quest for knowledge. Black holes are only the tip of the iceberg for you.

>>22099827
But would you be human anymore>

>>22099809

That is actually a compelling argument to me.

>>22099841
Have you seen their harvest festivals? It makes the Americans blush and peek through their fingers and the Moslems scream jihad. Shit is literally gay as hell.

>pansexual technically, but still I'll fuck anything and I think it's totally gay

>>22099858
>Humans in the Ironblood universes
Angry Puritanical Prudes with Space Ironclads

Oh, it's pretty awesome, but... we haven't come very far, have we?

Gentlemen.
Why all this fighting? Why couldn't we all make peace with each other, offer technological, magical and cultural assistance? Why won't we open lots of trade routes? Exchnge goods?
how else am i going to swindle THE SHIT out of both parties involved?

>>22099865

Son, there is a fine difference between homosexuality, and pure faggotry.

Go ask a normal homosexual male what he thinks of Peacock gays.

>>22098896
U2 and U3

making very important distinction between what counts as Spell-like and Supernatural to humans

Also, Wall of Iron no longer exists.

>>22099869

Because.

Space Elves

>>22099839
How much is your humanity worth? Does it worth immortality? Does it worth an ability to be everywhere you want to be?
>>22099833
>lazy person from a lazy race
>implying the aliens haven't been perfecting their magic for eons
Just because you get an easy start, doesn't mean your development is shit.

>>22099865

By the future, however, won't the older generations have died up?

Won't the next generations be generations of the Internet?

>>22099878
I thought we hated the drakes and the elves are just horrified of us and drakes are willing to oblige so long as the elves soak up some incoming firepower

>>22098400
Has anyone tried 'fixing' this story and turning it into a proper HFY without the pervy shit?

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>>22099893

>Fixing
>Drowtales

>>22099893
What is this thread for one-thousand?

>>22099891
You seriously underestimate 1) the grip of the christian faiths; 2) the pervasiveness of religious interneters; 3) the wrath of the third world

>>22099892
First contact ought to be a peach for whomever tries to colonize us

>We come with the authority of Dracon Htheriz't to claim this celestial sphere under the might and will of the Supremacy of Dragons

Did he say dragons?

Is that an elf?

More importantly, is that elf male or female?

I come from 4chan, who gives a shit?

*all shrug and proceed to rape the elf whilst recounting the sagas of the great Wat Do*

>>22099941

Humanity - driven by our desire to meet all the races of the galaxy - and then fuck them if possible. Or if not possible, find a way.

Guys, I don't think that by the time we meet our aliens, we'd be humans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

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>>22099735
Also, bearing iron weapons means you intend on facing down a proper caster and killing them

Casters are the equivalent of techpriests in the verse and dragons thusly elevated to demigods

Carrying iron outside of controlled warfare means to stand loud and clear away from the blessings given by magic users and the semi-benevolent rules of the Drakes

Anti-establishment Barbarians carry iron, not civilised people; even the Urg avoid using iron and its derivatives

>>22099972
not unless the blueblood settlers drop onto our doorstep

see >>22099941


hey, the reason why we haven't detected them on radio, THEY DON'T USE RADIO, THEY USE MAGIC MIND BEAMS

If a mage became covered in human blood, would this affect their ability to cast?

>>22100018
how dispersed are the iron particles? and no, the mage use his own biology to charge the necessary chemical chains in his body for casting

>>22100018
"What are you going to do, Bleed on me?"
"YES."
"Oh fuck, oh gods, STOP THAT, fuck!"

>>22100027
what'll they do when they know we can BUILD chemical chains in our laboratories?

artificial magic, mang

So if we can link the alien races here to subconcious memories expressed through fantasy races - particularly those with similar expressions found world wide - what other races would we find out there aside from orcs, elves and dragons?

Likely some sort of darkness/underground-dwelling race, but not dorfs, since the modern dorf is really mostly Tolkien.

>>22100027
hmm, a thought occurs, do magical artifacts use a body's natural magical chimeristry to gather the energy to work or do they gather it by ambient effect?

>>22100027
>>22100029

I am now imagining some Mafia-equivalent force out there gets a human hitman / right-hand-man / Head and his "kiss of death" is just him biting his lip and forcing the blood down someones throat to fuck with their magic for a while.

The trick about it is, is that it will eventually pass out of them, but until that happens their magical powers would be severely fucked and they might just end up committing suicide.

>>22100046
various monstrous humanoids and all sorts of half-humanoids

>>22100052
Obviously those guys will take various iron supplements and iron injections.

>>22100052
there'd be an ingestion period too, but yeah
it'd be like a disease that hits your hard and fast and then leaves inexplicably

sort of like the human's curse ability in Morrowind III

>>22100061
can't you get iron poisoning?

>>22100061
blood doping becomes something of a combat stimm for military types

>>22100071

Well yeah, but, they could also just sorta have a little cocktail of Iron supplements hidden under the tounge or in a tooth and squeeze it / release it into the other person when they are doing the thing.

>>22100052

Oh god fucking dammit.

You got me thinking about how the Bluebloods / Dragons / Magic fucksticks would react to a doujinshi that involves excessive amounts of nosebleeds / bloodplay.

>>22100056

I think that archetypes should be looked at.

Bluebloods fit the archetype of the "fair folk" - elves, fairies, angels, nymphs, kitsune, etc.

Urg are the prototypical ogre or brute - orcs, ogres, cyclopses, Oni, trolls, etc.

Dragons are dragons, East and West.

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>>22100109

On the left: Humanity
On the Right: Filthy Fucking Xenos

>>22100109
"W-wait... humans can SHOOT IT OUT like that? By the Gods, how horrifying!"

>>22100120

Later, Bluebloods are facing down a group of humans. One little human kid starts to get a nosebleed. Blueblood leader sees this.

"FUCK. OH FUCK, WE'LL GIVE INTO YOUR DEMANDS, JUST DON'T START SPRAYING BLOOD EVERYWHERE OKAY?!?!"

>>22100115
What about stuff other than straight mythology? Like, lizard-people? The Dinosaur people! Or I guess that's sort of linked to the Draconics

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>>22100120

And then Humanity Weaponized Thorny Devil Lizards.

Except huge.

Like, Komodo Dragon huge.

They could supplement Old Fashioned Guard Dog units, because Dogs never go out of style.

>>22100137
there was supposedly a race of raptors that were on their way to becoming a thinking species, maybe they made it out amongst the stars as proper kobolds

>>22100146

Yes. Space Kobolds.

>>22100145
Giant Lizards become household pet of choice.

>>22100115
I'd angels up there with dragons, in their own territory and their own government, busy fighting the devil and demon nations

dragons take the middleground politically and slowly cut in on every business venture the three kingdoms offer them to get at the other guys

and then the humans show up, get curious, and the religious ones start signing up to go to warfor their favorite religious icons; the angels and devils happily oblige, the demons eat a few and shrug when the remaining psychopaths still help them out

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>>22100145

Wait fuck, No, I didn't mean Thorny Devils, I meant Regal Horned Lizards!

Boy do I feel silly.

>>22100173
two factions of elves had signed up with the devils and angels, urgs take contract work from the devils occasionally but are shunned by the angelics

>>22100183

Those are the lizards that shoot blood out of their eyes right?

>>22100173
Are the western stylings of demons and angels really a global thing?

>>22100191

Yes.

>>22100115
Aren't mermaids and aquatic humanoids pretty common around the world?

>>22100202
with and without fish fangs

>>22100210
I like the fish-fang versions.

>>22100214
even though they don't have lips and can't give head... me too, Anon

Race Profile - Draconics.

"Draconics" (the name they refer to themselves isn't well pronounceable by humans), also known as drakes, dragons, dracs and other, less favourable terms.

Draconics take the appearance of, roughly, giant winged lizards. There is a wide variance in appearance among the various Draconic races, with size, scale colour and body structure all be mutable.

It should be noted that in most situations Draconics do not actually fly. On their homeworld, gravity was low enough for Draconics to use their wings for gliding - they can only fly in other similar environs.

Draconics are the leaders of the Draconic Supremacy, a Galactic Hegemony that includes members of many other races.

The Draconic Supremacy is, and has always been, a feudal structure. It is ruled over by the Draconic Emperor, with each Planet having a Draconic King (The Draconic King, in the case of allied races, does not actually have to be a Draconic). The Draconics put a high emphasis on lineage and bloodlines - the concept of the human "democracy" was rather alien to them.

>>22100290
Draconics have become, perhaps by dint of them being larger than most other species that encounter them, a culture that places high emphasis on war and warrior-culture. They are also highly advanced in the study of magic. Draconic Star Ships are extremely large, but tend to be undercrewed compared to other ships - much of the running of the ship is done through magical automatons. As well, Draconics, even with size taken into account, demand much more in the way of living space. It is not uncommon for Draconic Spaceships, particularly their flagships, to be the epitome of opulence, burnished in gold, with massive crystalline domes covering carefully transplanted and magically maintained gardens.

Many Draconics consider it the destiny of the Draconic Supremacy to rule the entire galaxy, and that their culture is necessarily superior. The Draconic Supremacy is notorious for the brutality with which is crushes rebellions, and the humiliation with which it burdens its fallen foes.

Race Profile - Val'alatelle

The Val'alatelle (most commonly referred to as Bluebloods), are a race of humanoids with heavily resemblance to humans. There are many differences, most of which are internal, but many of which are external. The features of a Blueblood are generally elongated - with pointed ears and dark eyes of a single colour. Bluebloods also have blue-coloured skin. In most cases this is a very pale blue, but variation is noted amongst the various Blueblood races. In general, Bluebloods with more exposure to sun have a deeper shade of blue - Blueblood communities found on hot planets with much sun exposure have been noted to have skin of a violet, deep purple hue.

Many Bluebloods belong to the Draconic Supremacy and many consider themselves to be the Cultural Heart of the Galaxy. Even in War, Bluebloods will not participate unless they can do so with elegance and grace. It is said that Bluebloods don't understand the human concept of "artist" - for to them, regardless of their occupation, all are artists.

Bluebloods also consider themselves masters of diplomacy, but this is rather a fallacy. Most diplomatic advantage they gained was due to the military backup of the Draconic Supremacy, rather than any innate talent.

In war, however, the Bluebloods are not to be underestimated. The have long studied war, and consider each battle a performance to be executed with perfection. Blueblood forces are thus often very professional and expertly trained. However, they are able to be put offguard by unorthodox tactics and unexpected shifts in battle strategy that deviate from their idea of the "Laws of the Art of War".

Race Profile - Urg

Urg are muscular, hairy humanoids with features that have been described as "porcine" by many. A good deal of Urg belong to the Draconic Supremacy, where they work often as conscripted soldiers and mercenaries. Many Urg, however, live outside of the Supremacy, often as pirates and raiders.

The Urg culture is based heavily upon toughness and the perception of toughness - and on the ideas of survival of the fittest. Although their society glorifies physical violence, they are also quite adept at magic, particularly of the destructive kind.

The Urg are adept at Space combat, building massive and imposing ships laden with magical artillery. They tend to believe in the quality of quantity and seek to smash foes with masses of magically propelled solid projectiles.

>>22100194

This is a fair point, but I think Bluebloods encompasing "Ancient civilizations," like Elves, Faries, Atlanteans, whatver AND divine beings like Angels and Spirits is a bit too much.

Even if the exact concept of western-style angels and devils doesn't qualify, the idea of purely supernatural beings on a plane above humanity (as opposed to monstrous creatures like dragons and demi-humans like Elves) is surely universal enough. Pantheon gods such as in Egypt, Greece and Nordic cultures, Japan's good old Ten Thousand Kami and Oni, Angels and Devil, Tribal gods like Anansi the Spider and Coyote, enlightened souls that transcend flesh and time like Buddah or the Dalaih Lamah... I think these kinds of things are in enough of a vein to justify a race of their own separate from Bluebloods.

Also, a Beastman race would be a good choice.

Race Profile - Do'Lu

The Do'Lu are an enigmatic race that has not had much contact with humanity. They are a short, pale race, adapted to living underground in near total darkness. They are said to have excellent Dark Vision, and excellent hearing as well. The skin of a Do'Lu is said to be extremely hard "like stone" and difficult to puncture.

The Do'Lu are mostly isolationist and were easily subsumed into the Draconic Supremacy. The Do'Lu are masters of magic, perhaps the most adept race in total at the art of magic. Their homeworld, at some point, had its surface reduced to an inhospitable Waste, the Do'Lu surviving by moving underground and utilizing magic.

The Do'Lu do make nominal contribution to the fleet of the Draconic Supremacy, in the form of amazingly advanced Sphere Ships. Facing the Do'Lu is never easy, due to their cunning approach to utilizing magic in battle.

>>22100410
Hmm. What other ideas have ye?

Race Profile - Hristare (Needs More)

The Hristare are a humanoid race that can be over-simply, if adequately, described as "lizardmen". They tend to be wiry and quick. Hristare are carnivorous and have sharpened claws and teeth. Common Draconic science places them as a "lesser cousin" of Draconics, but current research indicates many problems with this theory.

The Hristare are generally a gregarious race, living in packs and clans.

The Hristare are entirely subsumed into the Draconic Supremacy. Their agile nature makes them often used as scouts, especially in dangerous areas. In space, the Hristare often use smaller ships and pack tactics to cripple foes, allowing the Draconics to assault with little resistance.

>>22100449

Honestly I haven't read much of the thread yet. I just wanted to read the bottom few posts first to see what the current topic was and I chimed in because I had something resembling a worthwhile thought.

I'll get back to you once I do some reading.

Race Profile - Orae (Needs More)

The Orae are a icythyoid-humanoid race. They have a humanoid upper half with manipulator-limbs, and a long, muscular tail as their lower half. They are entirely aquatically developed and can only survive for short periods out of water. They show a remarkably tolerance to variations in water, however, having been shown to be able to comfortable exist in water of varying acidity and salinity. They have sharp fangs, having evolved as undersea predators.