>>22241236

"First I want someone to please explain what the hell is going on." Taiga says in a voice calmed by shock. "Shirou has Super-Powers, we're surrounded by demons, and apparently we're on lock-down because of what? An evil wizard? Where's Rin been taken to?"

"Nee-san was taken?" Sakura asks, surprised.

"Nee-san?" Taiga says, looking from Sakura to me.

It's at about this point that I realize Rin was the only one who knows how to cast a spell to erase memories.

>Actions?

>>22241244

I think the plan we had was as follows:

>Step one: Give Taiga the cliff-notes version of events thus far, up to and including the whole 'magic' thing.

>Step two: Have Kirei call up the Pope and/or Hogwarts, let them know all the shit is hitting every fan.

>Step three: Have Berserker and Lancer set a defensive line to protect the others, and then Shirou, Rider, and Rainbow Dash break the line and go save Saber. We know they go to Temple, maybe we can beat Gil there and save Caster too.

I'd personally add comforting Sakura and Ilya, but that's just me.

>>22241244
Copying my post from the last thread:
Broken Phantasm signal flare from the bell tower or something. We need Ciel here.
Also sit Taiga down and explain this bullshit.
"You know that dangerous stuff I told you I was involved in? It got worse. A lot worse. I was betrayed by someone I... trusted, to use the term loosely, and now Saber is in great danger.
Oh, Saber is a Magical Girl, by the way. Her power is Swords."

Also, welcome back. Did you have a nice Christmas? Get any groovy presents?
I got a lava lamp. Yeah, go ahead and be jealous, I understand.

>>22241244
IT LIVES!

We can't pursue in this condition what with noncombatants in our midst and shadow beasts everywhere.

Bring Taiga up to speed (get Illya to help), justifying this as The Secret Kiritsugu wanted you to keep.

Also, give sakura a hug, because she's better now and need some encouragement

>>22241244

Introduce Taiga to the magi 101.

And intro Taiga to imouto.

>>22241244
Whatever we do we need to reassure Sakura that Rin is in no actual danger. We might want to call Archer a lot of foul things at the moment, but we do know that he doesn't want Rin to come to any harm.

Plan of attack after the night:

If Lancer agrees, should it be safe to let Lancer and Rider go after Saber while Shirou goes after Archer?

Assuming Gil doesn't bring her back in the meantime.

>>22241292
Ignore my post, as I endorse this man. If the two acting Servants can protect the vulnerable ones, teaming up with Rider for a joyride on her magical pony of pain sounds like a plan.

I particularly like the idea of giving comfort too - she's a big girl, but he still needs her little brother to be nice to her

Fuck yes, Fate/Stay again!
I have a list of notes I made on the last threads. Should I just post it all here?


Oh, and I want to quote this post from the last thread for a potential plan:
>Gentlemen, I propose a three-step plan.

>Step one: Give Taiga the cliff-notes version of events thus far, up to and including the whole 'magic' thing.

>Step two: Have Kirei call up the Pope and/or Hogwarts, let them know all the shit is hitting every fan.

>Step three: Have Berserker and Lancer set a defensive line to protect the others, and then Shirou, Lancer, and Rainbow Dash break the line and go save Saber. We know they go to Temple, maybe we can beat Gil there and save Caster too.

Gil's on a motorcycle, so it is possibly that if we go with Rider, we can save Saber, Caster, and her bro-tier husbando before Gil gets there. Otherwise Caster's going to be pissed at us for sending Gil out after her, assuming she's still alive. We don't need one more enemy/one less potential ally.

>>22241292
>>22241355
Oh, well. I should have read the thread first. I'm apparently a faggot who can't waste time reading posts.

>>22241355
This seems sensible.

We've got a villain tag-team of Gilgamesh, Archer and Avenger - the more people we can have on our side, the better. Doubly important in getting a Caster servant - they can hack the Grail.

Avenger did a LOT of that already, so anyone who can counter-hack the Grail is a good ally to have.

>>22241347

>Assuming Gil doesn't bring her back in the meantime.

He isn't planning to return her at all.

Assuming he's even thought it out that far.

>>22241389

He did mention to look after Saber until he comes for her.

So he might bring her back if hes somehow not ready.

>Alright, I think we have a solid plan of action.

>Typing.

>>22241355
Fuck it, I'll post my notes from the last thread(s) anyway for future topics of conversation when AC-Guy's router inevitably dies.

About Avenger:

>Illya knows about Avenger, ask her EVERYTHING about him.
>Avenger keeps implying that Shirou is helping him somehow, and that we have some sort of connection through Avalon or something. Avenger also commented on how he's being non-linear.
>Ask Illya if she can, using her connection to the grail and the 3rd magic, see if we are in fact connected to Avenger and how/why.
>Avenger apparently gave us something, and he wants his "gift" back.
>Someone or something blocked out memories of Avenger during the fire 10 years ago. We need to get them un-blocked.
>Rin had a half-finished sentence on why Avenger looked like us, we need to tell her at some point that we have no clue.

>>22241459
Zouken:
Archer said he killed Assassin last thread. Zouken's crest worm is not longer inside Sakura, and Zouken's body has (probably) been blown up along with his home.
Zouken's still alive probably, just hanging on by a thread. It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.

Shinji:
Oh, remember this?
>"I get her." Avenger says with a smile. "I'll need some help for what I'm planning, anyway. The boy I recruited before simply isn't going to cut it."
Remember when Shinji called us after we beat his ass? "I found another way to get what I wanted from life, so I'm leaving."
Remember those tribal markings on the archery range? The ones that Rin said were imitated, as if a pupil did them?
Shinji wanted to be a magus, and now Avenger is stringing him along.

Archer:
Talk to Rin about the jewel, and how we heard Archer say "trace...off", which is our trigger.
On a separate note, wasn't Shirou's trigger Trace on, not Trace off? Or is this just like Alturia instead of Arturia?

>>22241459
We need to prep up a guilt trip speech for Archer, too. He's still attached to Rin, and Avenger said that he'd 'take Rin' if Shirou didn't turn up for the duel.

I think he plans to use a Magi's body for the next Grail. He already has Shinji, as far as I can tell, but Shinji's weaksauce circuits aren't enough.

Make Archer really wonder if having Rin become a hollow husk of a Grail-doll is what his ideals are worth

>>22241492
Doesn't he use "Trace on" to start the projection, and "Trace off" to end it?

>>22241511
Did he? I don't remember hearing Shirou say "Trace off" at all, but if he does say that to end projections it wouldn't be the first time I've forgotten such details.

>>22241511
"Trace off" is Archer-code for "I'm shooting a machine-gun made of swords at you now, prepare your anus" as far as i can tell.

Wasn't there some plan to try and steal Lancer last thread, or am I misremembering?

>>22241551

Our Shirou uses trace off.

I remember VN Shirou using Trace ON.

>>22241607
*checks previous threads*
Oh hey, you're right. Shirou uses it in the sixth verse.

"Alright," I say, rubbing a temple as I think. "Let's start at the top." I turn to Taiga. "Alright. First of all, magic is real. It's an actual thing."

"So what, you're a Wizard?" Taiga asks confused.

"Kind of. I don't really have the level of skill or power you'd probably associate with Wizards, but that's beyond the point. The gist of what's going on is there's a sort of competition between Magi over some kind of powerful magic that grants wishes."

"Like a Genie?" She asks, trying to find something to latch onto.

"... Close enough. Anyway, the Magi are teamed with heroic spirits." I point at Rider, Lancer, and Berserker "To help them compete. It's complicated, but they're basically various heroes and legends from the past."

Taiga does a double take. "Really?" She hesitates, and appears thoughtful. "So what just happened?" She asks, gesturing around.

"Man, if you figure it out, let me know." I respond with a sigh. "Archer did something to betray Rin, and then other people got involved while we were trying to sort that out."

Taiga nods appearing lost in thought. Kirei looks at me. "Is this wise?"

"Well I don't know any magic to alter memories, so it's not like lieing or covering this up is an option."

"Generally-"

"If you seriously suggest killing Taiga to keep the secret, I will slap you."

Kirei sighs dramatically. "Not what I was going for, but fine. What do you plan to do now?"

>>22241771

"First off, since you're the overseer, you have some way of contacting the church and the Magus association?" He nods. "Might be a good idea to let them know that things are kinda spiraling out of control here."

"Honestly, I think any 'corrective measures' they may take would be far more disruptive and terrible than the way things are already playing out." Kirei responds, leaning against the wall and frowning into space. "It's something to consider though."

I turn to Berserker and Lancer. "Do you two think you could hold the Church?"

"As things are?" Berserker asks. "Certainly, assuming Avenger doesn't manage to flank me. With Lancer's help...." He trails off, looking questioningly at Lancer.

Lancer merely shrugs. "I don't want to die either, so of course I'd have to help."

"Onii-chan, are you planning something?" Ilya asks, concerned.

"Onii-chan?" Taiga asks, giving the two of us a look. I opt to ignore her for now.

"Caster has Saber, and Archer took Rin." I say to her. "If you all are safe I need to go after them."

"Alone?"

"Actually, I was planning to take Rider." I respond, motioning over my shoulder at the tall blind-folded girl.

"Me? Why me?" Rider asks surprised.

"Well, 'Rider', I figured you had a mount of some kind we could make a run for the border on." I respond, looking out the window at the black semi-wall outside. "Either intercept Archer or get to the temple ahead of him."

Sakura walks over, slightly unsteady, and looks at me.

>>22241778

"That's Dangerous, Sempai."

>what say?

>>22241785
Of course it is. I'm Emiya Danger Shirou. It's right there in my name.

>>22241785
There's a fine line between daring and stupid, Sakura. Charging out there to confront Archer one-on-one? Stupid. Charging out there to snatch Rin out from under his nose with Rider's help? Daring. Sometimes, when your opponent has you in a corner, you have to throw aside forethought and do something just a little bit crazy. Don't worry, I promise I'll be okay.

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>>22241607
>>22241670

>It's a subtle detail, but in the original, 'trace on' was a part of analysis magic that Shirou used to learn an object's form, and to use various types of reinforcement.

>'Trace off' was in the VN, for when projection magic was used. Think of it like this: 'Trace on' is like tracing a picture, and understand/improving it's form. 'Trace off' is like drawing an entirely new picture, from knowledge of the subject you're drawing.

>Many translations didn't notice the subtle difference, or didn't realize the intended significance of the change.

>>22241785
"I can't just abandon Saber. Or Rin. And even if I didn't care about that, we really need their help to fight Avenger.
It's a tradeoff. More risk now for an easier fight later."

>>22241785

"This war is dangerous, Sakura. We'll not be safe until this is over.

And I am not leaving Saber or your sister out there."

>>22241785
"I'm going to need a better explanation than that, Sakura. If you're only saying that because you're worried about my well-being, I appreciate the sentiment, but we're not exactly playing a friendly game of cards right now. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about this. Rin is in serious danger, and time is passing too quickly as it stands."

>>22241771
>"If you seriously suggest killing Taiga to keep the secret, I will slap you."
Fucking Kirei. he probably will consider it. Watch him!

>>22241785
"Yes, it is dangerous. So are the people who want to hurt Saber and Rin.

Right now, a leftover from the last Grail War is speeding towards Caster, the woman who helped heal you. If I help her now, she can live on to save Rin, too. We need all the allies we can get to stop this madness, but that means I have to take action.

Stay strong for me, Sakura, and I can bring you your sister back."

>>22241785

"Yeah, sometimes being the hero sucks like that." with a straight a face possible, before smiling. "Besides, I can't abandon friends like that, especially not after I promised to protect them."

>>22241785
"I agree, but if we don't do anything and just wait out the night like Avenger and Archer-- Er, Rin's Archer-- want, then we'll lose Saber to Archer-- Er, last war's Archer. Plus, I pretty much sent Ar-- 4th war's archer after Caster. If she survives and wants revenge, I doubt she'll make things any easier for us."

"having two archers is going to be confusing. I'm just going to call last war's Archer KinKaiser to keep them straight."

>>22241862

Thats a little harsh.

>>22241847

Fascinating.jpg

>>22241870
I can't help but wonder - is this a GM's means of saying to us "Youre all gonna die unless you're more cautious?" I don't think AC-guy is the type who hands out hints like this unless we're fucking stupid, but I can't help but wonder - is riding in on the magical pegasus with the S&M goddess as your only support really the best idea?

At any rate, have Sakura keep an eye on Kirei. Make sure she knows he's not to be trusted

>>22241785
If I don't do it, then who will, Sakura?

>>22241909
Except we're talking about the Nasuverse here. If you always pick the safe choice, we're going to hit a dead end.

>>22241785
"Wait, is there something specific I need to know, or is that just a general statement?"

>>22241909
By all means he's pretty obviously telling us to get an explanation from Sakura instead of ignoring her. The information we get from Sakura will surely tell us with a clear conclusion that what we are going to do is in fact a bad idea.

>>22241930
>Leap into the street

Ugh, I thought this was dead.

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>>22241847
>>22241847
>'Trace off' was in the VN, for when projection magic was used.

Actually, it was only ever used for an incantation for Reinforcement magecraft. He never said "Trace, Off" for projection, although he did use "Trigger, Off" for Nine Lives Blade Works.
同調(トレース)、開始(オン)
構成材質、解明
構成材質、補強
全工程(トレース)、完了(オフ)

For Projection, he ended his magecraft with "All Cut, Clear Zero".
仮定完了(オールカット)。是、即無也(クリア・ゼロ)

>>22241938
>>22241909

It could also just be Sakura not wanting us to get killed.

>>22242001
Which is why we need to ask for clarification. Then if she's just telling us not to get killed we can unleash the bravado.

>>22242017
>>22242001
Being paranoid but daring is the best course of action in the Nasuverse.

>>22242017
Alright then. >>22241931 followed by any of the suggestions that explained us going.

>>22242001
We could invite her along. Maybe we should jokingly ask her if she has any combat training - perhaps get her to make a dish she's not good at and offer it to Avenger or Archer.

This would probably lead to a Bad End involving rape by Shadow Tendrils, but it ure would be funny

>So what's the consensus here? It went from decisive courage to sudden paranoia rather quickly.

>>22241983

>I could site sources and info, but I'll just go with this: Translation is rather imprecise, since it's more important to get meaning across that the actual literal words.

>The point is, the two forms were intended to be similar, but different, spells.

>>22242043
Seconding this. Does she know something here?

>>22242052

There's no translation involved..
>トレース、オフ
only comes with reinforcement.

Technically speaking they're the same spell for Shirou anyway, and his incantations are basically superfluous.
His only spell actually begins with "I am the bone of my sword". Projection, Analysis, and Reinforcement are just fragments of UBW.

>>22242052
The paranoia is mostly us being a bit silly. Question Sakura about the intent behind her cutting into the conversation, get any information we can on the dangers of flying with Rider, and then we can make a decision from there.

>>22242052
Sorry, I'm tired, and tend to be paranoid/cautious when making serious decisions while in such a state.

Ask if Sakura knows more than about this situation, because otherwise I intend toGAR the fuck up, climb on Rainbow Dash and rescue Caster and Saber from Kinkaiser.

then we regroup, and plan how we take on Archer

>>22242099

I am actually inclined to go with vanilla UBW in dealing with archer.

>>22242052
>It went from decisive courage to sudden paranoia rather quickly.
Welcome to /tg/ questrunning! If you don't start your update quickly you won't get it started at all!

>>22242117

Courage.

Shirou's not going to run.

>>22242146
The focus of our paranoia is not to do or to shy away, but the manner in which we will do.

>>22242159

Theres no real other way except charging up the steps of the shrine.

>>22242170
Dude.
Belerophon.

>>22242176
Bellerophon can only be used by Rider, learn to noble phantasms. You need a ridiculous Ride skill to even use pegasus without the golden reigns.

>>22242176

"Ha-HA! All I have to do is swoop in and save saber, and she'll definately agree to be mine!"
>WHOOSH~
"Did I just get passed by a Stripper on a flying horse?"

>>22242195
Could Saber ride the Pegasus?

>>22242176

Servants cannot pass through the forest surrounding the shrine.

You still need to charge up the steps, even if you're in the air.

>>22242195
We hold the fuck on, dude. What, you don't wanna have your arms around the tall beautiful woman?

>>22242218
No, B rank is insufficient for phantasmal beasts.
>B: Can ride on most animals more skillfully than the average rider, but will not be able to successfully ride on monstrous/holy-ranked creatures.
Medusa's Pegasus came from the Age of the Gods and is on par with a dragon, and probably can't be rode with even A rank.

>>22242238
Assassin's dead, isn't he? Then we can just Bellerophon our way up the steps.

>>22242218
No, her riding skill is too low to ride divine beasts

>>22242052
Well, we're not going to reach a decision at this rate. You need to call it at some point. Going by
>>22241931
>>22242001
>>22242017
>>22242032
>>22242043 and
>>22242057
We've generally decided to ask Sakura if this is a "general" it's dangerous! or a "I have specific information that you don't have" it's dangerous!.

>>22242250

Yes.

Still the only choice is to charge up the steps.

>>22242052
Do it! Let's get moving, try to reinforce Caster.

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>>22242243
>What, you don't wanna have your arms around the tall beautiful BLOODSUCKER

>>22242250
Yeah, he's dead. Archer WTFpwnt him. No one cares about Assassin ;___;

>>22242217
Poor KinKaiser. He's just not prepared for the Sentai villains who dress like bondage models.

>>22242243
I think we'd need to sit on her lap. We'd have to trust her to pin us into position, but I think we can manage.

Besides, with Rider, you know your frail virgin body doesn't have the strength to last that long

>>22242283
You're intelligent, but inexperienced. Your statement indicates... two-dimensional thinking.
We fly in at several hundred feet up.

>>22242251

Her riding skill applies if shes doing it by herself.

If hes a passenger, say, with rider and not in control of the beast, that should be doable.

>>22242298
>dat pic
...I'll be in my bunk

"Sakura?" I ask, placing a hand on her shoulder. "Is there something I should know?"

She hesitates, and then trembles slightly. "I just.... I don't want you to get hurt."

"Neither do I." I respond. "I don't want anybody to get hurt."

"Sempai...." She begins looking away and figiting slightly.

I sigh, and pull her into a hug. "I can't just abandon Saber or Rin. Unless you expect me to abandon them after I promised to help?"

"Wha- Of course not!" She answers, shocked.

"Then I guess it falls on me to be a hero then doesn't it?" I ask, resigned to my fate. I turn and begin to walk away, looking at Ilya as I pass. "Keep an eye on Kirei." I whisper so only she can hear. "Don't trust him." She gives me a very slight nod.

As I begin to open the door I hear Sakura. "Sempai?"

"Yes?" I say turning, as rider continues past.

"Come back safe."

"Of course." I return, as I step outside into Kirei's back yard. "So how are we getting there?" I ask Rider, who smiles.

"Like this." She responds, cutting her hand and drawing something on the ground. "Avert your eyes." I do so, and a bright flash happens. I turn and....

And....

"You have a Pegasus?" I ask, finally gathering my thoughts.

She smiles, and after helping me past my awkward, fumbling attempts to mount it, we take off into the sky like a shot. I hear some kind of a screeching noise, and I see shadowy forms rising up beneath us.

[ ] Try and out run them.
[ ] Mid-air combat.

>>22242431
[X] Try and out run them.

We're in a hurry, let's get to our location. Though I would definitely not be opposed to throwing some swords behind us at whatever is pursuing us.

>>22242431

[x] GOTTA GO FAST

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>>22242384
Alright, then its time to kill your boner.

Prepare for GIGA-WORMSLUT.

Her specialty are handjobs.

>>22242431
>[ ] Try and out run them.
As much as I love me some dogfightan, now is not the time.

>>22242431
Run

>>22242431
[x] Try and out run them.
Though some chaff wouldn't go amiss. Unlimited Cutlery Works?

>>22242431
>[ ] Try and out run them.
Come on Lancer/Berserker! Help out!
...Fucking hell. They're going to follow us and kill us in a guerenteed bad end. RAMPART PARANOIA TIME!

>>22242431
RUN, FUCKING RUN.

>>22242431
>[ ] Mid-air combat.

If Rider goes full speed, we'll either end up falling to our death, or we'll get caught because she slows down to prevent us falling.

Lets Ace Combat this shit.

>>22242431
Ancient Pegasus + Bellerophon + Rider's skills = you better have an anti-fortress noble phantasm, son.
Either option is certainly our victory, but let's flaunt it.
[X] Mid-air combat.

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>>22242456
>>22242456
>>22242456
>>22242456

Ah, shit, wrong image.

There you go.

>>22242469
I know this board doesn't have ID, but I'm changing my vote to Midair Combat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvdEq6bDt9U

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>>22242431
Sprung from cages on highway 9,
Chrome wheeled, fuel injected and steppin' out over the line

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>>22242431
Providing the shadows are after US (and not Sakura, Illya and Taiga), I say we [X] Try and out run them.

Fuck you, Shadow-Things. I've got a Goddess by my side! Nothing can stop me from reaching the finish line!


If the Shadows re attacking our little group, then we engage, but not a moment before

>>22242485
>dogfightan on a Pegasus
>LITERAL aerial jousting
>not posting the ultimate aerial joust music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiskH1UE4c

>>22242431

Why fight?

[x] RUNNNN

>>22242503

We JUST went over that the Nasuverse rewards heroism.

Never forget: choosing not to fight gets you eaten by landsharks.

>>22242500
That was my second choice. My third was Bunker Shot or Comona. It was a tie.

I lvoe every Ace Combat OST. Even Assault Horizon.

>>22242510

The shadows are servants.

>>22242510
But we've ID'd our prize - rescue Caster and Saber, then regroup.

Every second we delay by fighting Shadow-Beasts is a second Gilgamesh could be murdering Caster and taking Saber.

>>22242510
And even tragic or horrific events happening to your servant are a good sign, so long as you yourself do not suffer any injury!

>>22242510

We can't fight everything here to the shrine.

Mission piriority is the rescue of saber+issei

>>22242510
But there's a difference between suicidal choices to avoid dead ends and suicidal choices that lead us into dead ends.
Fucking hell if I know the difference, but >>22242533 is what we're going for. We can't waste time.

>>22242553
>Fucking hell if I know the difference
As a general rule, acting stupidly heroic when a girl is involved is expected of you.

>>22242532

And? Bellerophon is as defensive as it is offensive, Rider slams Arturia into the ground with it so long as she doesn't use Excalibur.
Bring an anti-fortress Noble Phantasm or you're fucked.

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>>22242525
My only problems with Assault Horizon were the lack of Strangereal, and the sheer IDIOCY of the CRA system.
Have a Flanker, because Flankers are fucking awesome.

[X] Try and out run them.

Yays after weeks of catching up on sup/tg/ im contribootin

>>22242565

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Gae_Dearg

>>22242578

Gimme my 4,5,0 remaster, not that which is AH.

>>22242580

Gae Dearg only applies to a magical defense. It would still merely be a B rank spear strike to a dragon-level pegasus. It would bounce off his skin.

>>22242563
>acting stupidly heroic to save Saber, Caster, and Souichiro-bro-sama
Okay, we're safe then.

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>>22242587
Indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrQrkZtg-mo
The singer? It's Mary Elizabeth McGlynn, the English voice of The Major.

>>22242598

And Issei.

He stays at the shrine too

"Go!" I yell to Rider, and she nods as we take off across the sky.

"Where to?"

"The Temple." I respond. "We know where Caster took Saber, I have no idea what Archer's planning."

She looks behind us, and tells me that the shadow-things were starting to dissipate. Apparently they can't go too far away from their summoner.

It takes us mere heartbeats and we're crossing the river. We arrive almost to the temple itself, and suddenly Rider veers off-course.

"What's wrong?"

"There's some sort of boundary field around the temple, hostile to spirits like myself."

"The stairs." I respond. "Only gap in the defense." Rider nods and takes us in low and fast. we dismount inside, her Pegasus opting to hover in a low circle over the courtyard. The entire place is quiet and still, only noise made is a couple of crickets somewhere by the waters behind.

"Where do we look?"

[ ] Inside the main temple.
[ ] Search the courtyard for clues.
[ ] The Pond out back.
[ ] Inside the residential areas.

So, how are we gonna play saving Caster from Gil, when we're the one that pointed him at her?

>>22242624
[X] Search the courtyard for clues.

We're at the courtyard already and if there's been a battle here we might see something.

>>22242630
Very cleverly.

>>22242624
Search

>>22242630
Honesty is the best policy. She'll find out, and it's not like we don't have just as much reason to be pissed with her as she will to be upset with us.

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>>22242612
>mfw the US government destroyed the vast majority of their F-14 fleet upon their retirement in order to make it harder for Iran to get their hands on spare parts for he F-14s THAT THE US GOVERNMENT SOLD THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE
Smooth move guys.
>>22242624
>[ ] Search the courtyard for clues.

>>22242624
>[ ] Inside the main temple.
>>22242630
By beating him to the temple.
If Gil beat us here we're fucked. He's got us trapped if he's at the stairs when we escape, unless that barrier is only one-way.

Hmm, Archer did kill Assassin, so we should've seen something on the way in. Even if it's just a Kaladbolg made explosion

[X] Search the courtyard for clues.

Rolled 3

>>22242624
Check for signs of battle then head for the temple.

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>>22242630
Pretty much. It got him out of our hair, but we need to save Saber, and Gil will run off with her if we don't. We save Saber AND Caster AND Souichibro (AND Issei, if he's in danger).

>>22242624
[X] Search the courtyard for clues.

We're gonna Scooby Doo this shit. Roll perception, bitches, I'mma Investigatin'!

>>22242624

Id say residential area.

>Searching the courtyard?

>DC 15 Magecraft.

>[x]Search the Courtyard

Rolled 12

>>22242684

Rolled 18

>>22242684
Rolling

Rolled 10

>>22242684
We don't got this.

>>22242678
Oh right, archie did say he maimed souichiro. First place caster would go

Rolled 9

>>22242684
SERVE US, O DICE GOD

Rolled 11

>>22242684

>>22242692
Nubum saves our fails

4 fails 1 win.

Well, depending on our base magecraft, which is probably shit or possibly even negative.

>>22242707
And here I was expecting to roll a 1.
Thank you RNG.

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>>22242647
>destroyed the vast majority of their F-14 fleet upon their retirement

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Rolled 3

>>22242725
Don't invoke it's name! It hates its name invoked!

>>22242694
This would seem logical, but I'm not one to turn down the opportunity to investigate further. more info == more power, in this game

I close my eyes and get a feels for the area. "Something's.... off." I say after a minute, trying to find words to place on my disquiet.

"How so?"

"There's magic here, but it's.... it's like two different people are both trying to paint the area with different colors." I respond after thinking about it for a long minute. I let my instincts guide me over to the stairs, and look down. "What do you make of this? It looks like some light scratches...."

Rider leans in curious, and takes a sniff. "Blood." She responds after a moment, running her fingers along the edge. "It feels like a magic circle, the kind used to summon servants."

"You're sure?" I ask.

"Positive." she responds, swallowing heavily.

.... Was.... was she salivating? "Alright, that's weird. Maybe Assassin's Master summoned him here?"

"Maybe. Or Caster was summoned here." She shakes her head. "the blood felt fresher than that though."

>What now?

>>22242783
Fuck off, dice!

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>>22242630
>So, how are we gonna play saving Caster from Gil, when we're the one that pointed him at her?

With MAXIMUM TROLLING obviously.

>>22242784

Residentials. Check for innocents.

>>22242784

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

I'll bet you dollars to Dragon Dildoes that Captain Rape-Worms helped Archer take out Assassin, and this whole fucking thing's a trap.

Fooking Archer set us up by meta-gaming.

>>22242784
[X] Inside the main temple.

Oh yes, let's follow Heaven's Feel exactly. Past True Assassin's summoning and into the bloodbath

>>22242784
>[ ] Search Inside the main temple.
>>22242809
>>22242815
...Fuck.

>>22242784

Urgh. Zouken's still in the game.

Fucking dick sticks.

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>>22242784
Ah, Rider. Still terrifying in your own oddly endearing way. Bloodplay an't my thing, woman!

Make a quick joke about promising to cook for Rider if she controls her drooling, and then ask "how Fresh?"

Assuming nothing happens after that, head into the residential areas. We *may* run into Issei, but with any luck we'll find the people we're after

>>22242809
>>22242815
>>22242827

Hassan's a bitch, who cares.

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>>22242784

[x] Shout for Caster / or and Saber

Read the mood guys, whoever is behind the eerie silence here knows that we are here already. So we can also straight out invite him to come out instead of entering a fucking temple with hostiles at night.

>>22242815
Not quite, we've got Rider with us this time. Assassin only got Saber due to an affinity match up in his favour. Rider beat his ass. One of my favourite scenes in the game.

>>22242784
Residential areas.

Rolled 12

>>22242827
Fuck this shit.


Rolling: how well we roll determines how well Shirou that SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE

>>22242848
...Y'know why not?

>>22242848
This.

>>22242784
Main Temple.

>>22242848
Changing vote for this.

3 temple, 3 residential, 2 holla ?

>>22242815
Problem is, we don't have Saber, and my emotions may be getting in the way here, but I don't wish such a fate on Rider.
Regardless,
›[x] Check the temple

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Rolled 11

>>22242848
You know, I like this plan.

Protect us, goddess of S&M and magical flying horse-birds! I'm gonna cast Summon Nearby Baddies And/Or Allies

[X]Shout for Caster and Saber

>>22242848

We didn't get an "eerie quiet" though.
We got "quiet + distant crickets". The mood of storytelling says that what we should infer is that we are too late, and NOBODY is here.

>>22242900
My Hero sense says after Zouken, but Bellerophon is awesome so before Caster and Gil

Residents:
>>22242804
>>22242832
>>22242862

Temple:
>>22242815
>>22242877
>>22242897

Shout:
>>22242848
>>22242870
>>22242872
>>22242889
>>22242898

>>22242898
Please only roll when ACGuy asks for it.
You're kind of being annoying.

ya know, it's probably within Shirou's abilities to move AND shoot...er, shout

>>22242952

you lost me

>>22242945
Noted.

I am a bit drunk right now, and wondered if SHirou would notice something like a summoning as being Plot Important. Thus, leaving it up to chance.

Still, I will refrain

>>22242897
As discussed before, Rider has her awesome mount out, which grants all sorts of amazing bonuses to her.

Besides, she's someone very much in touch with her dark side. I don't think she'll be quite so easy to corrupt

>>22242972
weird, I'm sure I hadn't dropped my pants

>>22242988
Heh, Rider Alter.
Either "Great, a palette swap. Was something else supposed to happen?"
ooooor
Gorgon. run

After a moment's hesitation, I turn to Rider. "What if we just yelled?"

"What do you mean?"

"I mean what if we just yelled? Yelled for Caster or whatever to come out?"

".... Would that work?"

"I have no idea, but this place it starting to weird me out. I mean, can't you feel it?"

Rider gives me a weird look. "No, no I don't. You talk about the mana flows and weird feelings, but all I'm getting is that it's dark and quiet."

"TOO quiet." I respond. Turning to the temple. "OI! You can come out now."

I'm greeted by silence.

"Caster? Saber?" I ask the shadows cast across the yard, raising my voice slightly.

"Well, that was productive."

"It was." I respond. "The crickets stopped."

"Crickets?" Rider asks confused, while I feel a stabbing pain in my chest.

[DC 16 Don't Die check]

>>22243008

Or White Rider.

Rolled 7

>>22243014

Shirou? Dying? Pff.

Rolled 18

>>22243014
FUUUUUUUUUUU

Rolled 1

>>22243014

OHSHIT

>>22243019

God DAMMIT dice.

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>>22243020
YOU ARE A SEXY FACELESS GOD OF ROLLS!

Rolled 9

>>22243024

FUUUUUU

>>22243020
PHEW Saved the day AGAIN.
>>22243024
YOU MOTHERFUCKER

Rolled 17

>>22243014

>>22243024
oh
gg guys

>>22243024
C-c-c-critical failure

>>22243024

Whelp.

It was a good run while it lasted.

>"It was." I respond. "The crickets stopped."

>"Crickets?" Rider asks confused, while I feel a stabbing pain in my chest.
KI ki ki kikikikiikikik KIIIII!

>>22243024
Whelp...
Wait.
Avalon?
Maybe?

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Rolled 11

>>22243018
I'd be okay with this!

>>22243014
SAVE US

Soooo, I'm new to quests. Crit fail cancels all success?

>>22243057
A lot of good Avalon did in 40 dead ends.

>>22243057

Avalon only works when in a contract with Saber.

I am not up to speed with this roleplay thus far but it is apparent that Saber is not with Shirou and in need of saving. Probably Rule Broken, which destroys the contract and makes Avalon a trinket.

>>22243060
Unless a crit success cancels it out.

>>22243060

Yes.

Unless you have a crit.

Rolled 19

>>22243024
I hate you so much.

>
"Crickets?" Rider asks confused, while I feel a stabbing pain in my chest.

WHELP! Does Rider know CPR? Cuz I think I recognize the onset of a heart attack

>>22243059
Oh wow. I mean she's pretty damn good looking normally but that...
She's fuckin' gorgeous.

>>22243060
In this specific quest, yeah.
Different quests work things differently.

>>22243065
It still works when not in a contract with Saber, it just is not as effective or powerful in that situation.

please look away while I roll 20d1

>>22243065
Yeah, Archer Traced Rule Breaker. And threw it at Saber. Because we let Caster Rule Breaker HIM in the first place.

>>22243079
so close!

Rolled 8

I have failed /tg/

I will now commit sudoku.

>>22243084

It has no effect at all, actually.
From Fate/Complete Material III World Material
>Q: Archer's greatest defense is "Rho Aias", but if he were the same person as Shirou, shouldn't his greatest protection be "Avalon"? In the Rin route, Archer knew that the holy sword's sheath was inside Shirou, so wouldn't the Heroic Spirit form of the Shirou that "knew" that the sheath was merged with him be Archer?
>A: Avalon’s power won't work if Saber's not connected to it. It's a different story during the Grail War, but all it does when Saber isn't around is make Shirou's magic attribute into "sword". Also, after the Grail War is taken apart, the line between him and her will be gone, so it's best to think that his image of "Avalon" also disappeared.

>but all it does when Saber isn't around is make Shirou's magic attribute into "sword"

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>>22243090
Pretty dumb move on our part all things considered. NOT our proudest moment.

I reach out and grab rider by the arm and roughly yank her sideways. she opens her mouth to yell at me, but it cuts off when a knife hits me in the fore-arm where her heart was a moment before.

It hurts, more than a little bit.

"Fuck me!" I gasp, jumping backwards as the second knife barely misses my face.

"Not till we're married." Rider responds. I shoot her an incredulous look. "Right, bad time for jokes." She responds apologetically. I feel a second knife hit me in the shoulder while I'm distracted. "Shit, TERRIBLE time for jokes." She says as we both turn our eyes forward and I pull the knife out of my forearm. Luckily as sharp and smooth as the blade is, it comes out rather painlessly.

Standing halfway across the courtyard is a man wearing some sort of tattered shawl, with a bone-white mask on his face. the mask seems to depict a skull not quite human, twisted in a insane smile.

He looks at us, and all I can do is sense killing intent.

[DC 16 Combat check]

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Rolled 10

>>22243014
>>22243079
GOD DAMMIT! ONE OFF! ONE!!!!

I shall chance one last roll, on the off chance of a 20!

>>22243080
I know, eh? She's still a goddess even when an anti-Hero, so imagine her without the regret and rage clouding her.

I'd get down on my knees and worship her ardently, in more ways than one

Rolled 5

>>22243097
Then how did Kiritsugu use it to save Shirou after the 4th grail war? Saber was gone at that point.

>>22243107
KILL IT! KILL IT!

Rolled 8

>>22243107

Cast the dice once more!
Apparently it was just a flesh wound.

Rolled 19

>>22243107

Rolled 16

>>22243107
Time to not die.

Rolled 8

>>22243107
DON'T FAIL ME NOW

Rolled 10

>>22243107

Fuck, archer was right. Hormones are gonna get us killed.

>>22243108
>>22243113
>>22243114

Well this isn't looking good.

Rolled 20

>>22243107
>"Not till we're married." Rider responds.
SHIROU DOES NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF "JOKE". WE SHALL FIGHT FOR YOU, FUTURE WIFE.

Lets kick this guy's ass.

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Rolled 19

>>22243052
Oh yeah, I totally called that likely situation

>>22243121
The crit demands that we turn our Shirouswag upon Rider!
All hail the mighty crit!

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>>22243107
Well, that wasn't as horrifying as I thought it would be.

Rider believes in sex after marriage? Who knew.

I'd roll, but I saw a few 19s and I'm not gonna risk it.

"Who are you, stabby man, any why shouldn't I skewer your ass?"

Rolled 9

>>22243108
Thank GOD you did not link to >>22243107
>>22243115
As the Sexy faceless god of rolls, I appoint you as a demigod of Sexy faceless rolls. As long as you're not >>22243024

>>22243113
>Then how did Kiritsugu use it to save Shirou after the 4th grail war? Saber was gone at that point.

Avalon wasn't used to save him, it was just given to him. Kiritsugu probably used normal magecraft to save Shirou, as he wasn't dead.
Kiritsugu may be a pretty shitty magus but healing isn't extremely complex, especially when he was taught by the Einzberns, a thousand year old white mage family.

Why did Kiritsugu give Shirou Avalon? Who knows. Maybe he planned on having it save Shirou, and learned that it's powerless without Arturia.

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>>22243115

>I'll give you this one, since the other guy rolled before I asked.

>>22243121

>PFFFT- What's that? A thinly veiled excuse for my favorite reaction image?

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>>22243140

>>22243140
I bear my tripfaggotry proud. I will own my failures and successes.

>>22243121
Can we bring this guy into the fold? I think a Nat 20 deserves some cred.

And yeah. We're aiming for an "everybody lives" route, but a Rider is fine too. Woman's got a fine sense of humor, at the very least

>>22243158

BASED AC-GUY

>>22243174

Might be worth a point or two on the hidden affection stat.

>>22243174
We might need a temple of followers and priests instead of demigods if everyone gains some right to be sexy faceless gods/demigods of rolls

>>22243192
hidden? If we get some downtime with her, Sakura's gonna have to beat her back with a stick

>>22243207
guy that rolled a 1 can be the choir boy

>>22243216

The one I get to molest?

>>22243211
>Sakura's gonna have to beat her back with a stick
Or we take the favored solution of shy quiet (and secretly kinky) girls in harem anime. Can you say "threesome"?

>>22243221
...Of course.

>>22243221
Rejoice!

I stare at the man.

"Who?" Rider asks.

"Given the fact that he's capable of hiding from us magically? I'm guessing an Assassin." I respond.

"I thought Archer said he killed him?"

"He might've lied. Also, this wasn't the Assassin last time I was here. Did killing him open the slot for him to be re-summoned?"

"Grail wars don't work like that, else they'd never end." Rider answers. The three of us spend a long moment staring at each other, when I suddenly feel an urge. I project a trio of knives- his knives, as they're made for throwing- and launch them. I'm rewarded with clangs as the hit the blades he sent through the air.

"What?" The man hisses, looking at me more intently. "Master, we should withdraw. This is a battle we won't win easily."

"Perhaps they can be reasoned with." a voice responds.

A familiar voice.

Zouken steps out of the shadows behind Assassin. "Hello Shirou. Perhaps we can take a moment to chat?"

>What do?

>>22243231
Rider reaaaally doesn't want people to remember that time she "mana-drained" Shirou

>>22243235

SHOOT HIM IN THE FAAAAAAAAAACE!

>>22243235
...Should we bluff/threaten and say he has until the 4th war's archer arrives? Try to get what he knows about Caster and Saber?

>>22243235
Jam a blade down his throat.

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>>22243231
>Can you say "threesome"?

Because they certainly can

>>22243235
Hey, Rider? Sakura's free and the source of her misery is right there

>>22243235
"Rider, say hello to the cause of all Sakura's suffering."

>>22243245
>>22243254

You people do remember that does nothing to Zouken, right?
His soul worm is elsewhere.

>>22243235

"No."

Then broken-Phantasm him in the face.

>>22243245
>>22243254
NO. and NO.
>>22243258
...If this wasn't blatant metagaming then I'd say THIS.
(...wait, is it metagaming? Do we know that Zouken did it?)

>>22243235
"You're a dick and I'm probably going to kill you for what you did to Sakura, but I suppose I can put that off for a few minutes.

Talk, now. What's happened here, when did you get Assassin?"

>>22243258
um, maybe I should delete this. I didn't think everyone else would go with stab Zouken. It's probably a bad plan

>>22243257

Oh, hello boner. Fancy meeting you here.

>>22243258

Agreed. Let's sick Rider on him. She can use her Mystic Eyes on him and turn him to stone, right?

>>22243269

IT'S CATHARTIC.

FOR US AND SAKURA.

>>22243235
Conjure Caldabog and brepare to Break the fucker in his face.".

"Sakura chatted with me well enough about her home life. Eat shit. I don't nogtiate with monsters."

>>22243258
>>22243267
THIS. Let the creature Sakur summoned with despair mete out suffering in kind.

Also, fuck assassin. No one likes assassin

Cooler heads, prevail! QUICK!

Can we stop and think about this?
We're walking a fine line here.

>>22243276

>Agreed. Let's sick Rider on him. She can use her Mystic Eyes on him and turn him to stone, right?

Only affects people with a Prana rating below B. B can be petrified if they do something wrong, A is only diminished.

If Tohsaka has A (she's not petrified) and Shirou has B (he gets petrified if he loses his concentration), Zouken sure as fuck has A as a 500 year old magus.

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>>22243235

"I don`t think so. No negotiations with a guy that has a HAPPY HAPPY FUN TIME Torture chamber beneath his house.

Rider, kill him, I´ll try to fend off Assassin on my own for a short time. After Zouken is fishbait Assassin will be a piece of cake together. "


It`s risky, but there is no fucking way we`re letting Zouken alive or even give him the chance to get away.

Did Rider have a catalyst or was she summoned solely as a similar person to her master?

>>22243235
"All I care about are where Caster and Saber are. Unless you can tell us something relevant, this conversation is over."

If he has nothing to contribute, then >>22243267

DOES SHIROU KNOW ABOUT THE WORMRAPES OR NOT

OR IS META BASED ACTIONS ALLOWED

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>>22243272
Why? We know he rules the household with an iron grip, and we know that Sakura suffered scary-as-fuck domestic abuse there. Plus, parasites in the nerve endings are never a sign of a loving gradnparent.

Why shouldn't we attempt to kill this fuck? Even if he doens't survive, we could dispatch Assassin easily enough.

FIRST:
WAIT A GOD DAMN MINUTE BEFORE FIGHTING ZOUKEN!
SECOND:
Do we know IC that Zouken planted the crest work in Sakura?
THIRD:
KinKaiser is on his way here, we've lost too much time already. we need to ask him where Caster and Saber are, then GTFO

>>22243235
" A quick moment"
Prep to maim in an instant

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>>22243235
if you and I have something to talk about you better make it quick

>>22243309
Because in the time it would take to kill him, KinKaiser will arrive and kill us? We're on a VERY tight schedule.

>>22243308
We know Sakura was abused. I don't think we know about the worms, but we DO know that she was abused thanks to Kirei.

>>22243309

>Why? We know he rules the household with an iron grip, and we know that Sakura suffered scary-as-fuck domestic abuse there.

At Shinji's hands. Shirou never knew anything about Zouken, Kariya, or Byakuya.

>Plus, parasites in the nerve endings are never a sign of a loving gradnparent.

For all he knows, that's how matou magic works. He wouldn't be wrong.

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>>22243318
This.
As much as I want to murder the FUCK out of Japanes Rapeworm Clint Eastwood we can't take him down right now.

"No." I respond more calmly than I feel.

"Why not?" He asks, surprised.

"I know what you've done to Sakura." I call the swords to my hands as I begin to move. "I don't negotiate with Monsters."

Assassin moves between myself and a very surprised Zouken, throwing more blades.

[DC15 DIE MONSTER Check]

Rolled 13

>>22243335
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

Rolled 9

>>22243335
YOU DON'T BELONG IN THIS WORLD!

Rolled 16

>>22243335

Well, I'm still not sure if Shirou should make such a conclusion based on what he knows, but let the battle commence.

Rolled 14

>>22243335
KILL MAIM BURN

Rolled 18

>>22243335

>>22243326
>>22243306
This is probbly the best action. Get the information we need, make false promises when necessary, then murder the fuck out of Zoen and his Servant.

>>22243308
We know that Sakrua suffered domestic abuse at sShinji's hands, that there was a history of sexual abuse, and that a magus put evil parasites into her nerve-endings to endanger her health and leave a kills-switch in place.

letting Shinji live never was this useful. he told us all we need t know to fuck this bastard up. even if it doesn't kill him, it sets him back some. Fuck assassin.

We can infer enough. The Matou are not kind wizards. Fuck him up.

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>>22243345
>>22243349