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big hips and thighs.

Same things that make an orc barbarian or a vampire accountant interesting characters. A good player.

You can install an orifice anywhere you damn well please.

>>22702331
Can't disagree.

What kind of universe OP?

>>22702360
Oh, in general.
I suppose it also depends, so feel free to make an exhaustive answer.

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>>22702331
the heretic speaks truth.

>>22702341
I can't agree with this more, there are a few good archetypes for robotic players:

The Terminator
The Data
The Adding Machine
The Robot (Lost In Space)
The Dalek.

Her desire to be a normal highschool girl, yet her duty to save the world constantly.

Ass katanas, transforming tank tread vagina and tit guns.

Worked for Robot Geisha.

>What makes a robot girl an interesting character?
The shotgun

>>22702394
Yes, but a robot GIRL?

>>22702394
>Dalek

Oh yeah, Daleks, making robots homocidal psychopathic beings filled with hate, rage and other negative emotions before all others.

>>22702394
Isn't The Terminator and The Dalek pretty similar?

>>22702424
No, the dalek is petty, mean and fanatical.

>>22702410
It's fun.
>>22702424
Was thinking the later terminators.


In addition, another good choice is The Holly (Red Dwarf)

>>22702424
>>22702442

Also, one terminates, the other EXterminates. Totally different.

>>22702410
Aren't Daleks little green octopus aliens?

I thought they used the metal part like exosuits.

>>22702424
the dalek rabidly hates you, the terminator is just going to kill who ever it is supposed to without giving a fuck

>>22702443
that one's just a parody of Data.

And none of them are feminine.

>>22702307
In terms of "robot"? The weighing of rational and logic against any trace of emotions, sentimentality, or personal bias. Even a human-like or nearly human robot should have the advantage of never making "stupid" decisions.

In terms of "robot girl"? Fetishes. You can try doing both, but the fetish thing will only really serve to come across as facetious. It doesn't really have to "ruin" the exploration of the robot aspect of the character, but it's highly prone to and even if it doesn't it'll probably put the serious and more interesting aspects in the back seat.

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So regarding OP's totally legitimate and not at all fetishy question, is this a robot that was made as a girl, or a girl that's somehow been made into a robot?

Ignoring the first law of robotics is a good first step.
Whether you apply the others is a matter of taste.
Also a kind of personality, if artificial, would be a good idea.
Since excessively girly robots are a bit overdone for my tastes and will be all kinds of annoying, I would advise to not go that way for personality.

>>22702405
There is:
-Maria, from Metropolis.
-Olimpia from The Sandman
-GLaDOS from Portal
-Drossel from Firenball Charming
And that blue robot chick I forgot the name of.

>>22702461
Holly, a parody of data? You sad little man.

>>22702481
>Even a human-like or nearly human robot should have the advantage of never making "stupid" decisions.
ahem
>>22702331

Remember: making errors is human, but to really fuck things up, you need a computer. Keep in mind that computers don't think.

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>>22702442
>>22702460
>>22702410
what if the robot girl had the mind of A.M.?

>>22702496
the former, obviously.

>>22702523
What if the robot girl had the mind of a 15 year old boy?

>>22702520
Xeno is a techno-arcane necron cyborg, not a robot.

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Observe superior tactics while you still have human eyes...

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>>22702461

Pretty sure you're thinking Kryten.

>>22702548
whatever.

>>22702459
They're living creatures only in the same way as the Borg or Cybermen are. Yeah, there's biology at the core, but the defining feature is that they are a machine.

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You have five minutes to comply, or else IT'S FRYING TIME HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>22702548
Xeno is a tireless dance machine.

>>22702307
Her robo vagina.

>>22702520
We're talking about something capable of functioning autonomously though, so by all rights it can "think." As a robot however, it cannot think randomly, or arbitrarily, or idly: it is programmed to prioritize data processing by some algorithm or another, if it weren't it'd just crash and then it wouldn't be a thinking or functioning anything. It has a program and executes that program without logical error. The only problems should come from hardware or data input limitations/errors. Unless we're in one of those weird situations where a prototype with some massive flaw was never "decommissioned" in any of various ways and is now running amok based on some faulty programming, but even in that case the patterns of behavior should be consistent with itself.

>>22702559
Didn't Kryten come first? I know Red Dwarf did Holograph people before ST:V's Doctor.

>>22702584
>>22702552
>>22702523
That's not girly.

>>22702596
No, Red Dwarf began during Next Generation's run. Data was first.

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>>22702596

Star Trek TNG's first episode was September of 1987, the first episode with Kryten was September of 1988. He also wasn't a formal main character of the show until the next season though, where more of the parodies of Data's behavior really began.

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>>22702307
Lots of ways to make it stale. Really, what it takes is a good player to make any concept work. I'm really fond of the existential questions angle, when it's played well.

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Disembodied A.I. voice is best waifu.

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>>22702716
GET REKT, SLUT!

You can't beat me.

>>22702693
Existential bullshit is actually the best way to miss the point or simply make it boring and tasteless: not only is it really hard to pull off without sounding excessively pretentious and irrelevant, it's also unrelated to the "girly" part of the character and even tends to negate it. A good example would be Motoko Kusanagi: the more existentialist she gets, the less characterful she becomes, up until the point where she's only there to deliver pseudo-philosophical lines and basically serve as Shirow's sockpuppet.

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>>22702716
If your WAIfu has nO BOdy, then HOW will SHe adMINister thE DEadly NEuroTOXin?

>>22702716
>>22702776

get outta my thread

this is for robot girls

>>22702785
That's the whole point of Motoko... she's becoming less and less human because she has nothing in the real world.

Meanwhile, Batou has his dog.

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>>22702331
that scarab

>>22702814
Batou, however, manages to be more characterful AND to be deep at some points, even when he seems to be moping and expressionless in Innocence, he's not as pointless as Motoko in the latter parts of the manga.

>>22702844
Exactly.

Personally, I think Ghost In The Shell is about a little girl who never asked for it. And everything kind of like collapses in phases. Until she becomes this post-human electronic hivemind. Or something.

>>22702785
That's why I said "when it's played well". It works when you know when to stop.

>>22702693
See that's what people normally think, but I feel like that misses the point. A programmed machine mind would never contemplate or at least never "voice" any such questions. A machine would just arrive to the bottom line conclusion and work based off that. It wouldn't ask "why was I made?" it would either say "I know, for fact, that I was made for XYZ reason" or "I do not know" and that'd more or less be the end of it. Judging the relevance of that information would also be done in very concrete positive or negative confirmation. All thought would function like a check list of known and unknowns and equations based on the known as far as those functions can be completed. Motives for a robot would be entirely based around confirming fact where unknown variables are involved and ultimately completing the big equation around whatever goal you've set for it, that being whatever the robot was programmed/made for.

The biggest play around sentience in a machine is how the machine evaluates its own self preservation, if it has been programmed with any, against the inevitable completion of its purpose and endless "nothing" that follows it completing that purpose. A crude example is a war machine designed to kill "winning" the war it was made to fight. The problem is, then what? Either the robot gets to that point and seeks to create its own war to fight, or more likely realizes the inevitable outcome of its programming putting into an endless limbo-like "waiting for input" mode and so preemptively seeks to never let the war end. Those kinds of conflicts of prioritization. Think HAL 9000.

>>22702877
Nah, Ghost in the Shell is a big worldbuilding experiment that serves as a way for Shirow to give his philosophical and technical views on a lot of stuff, and to draw girl butts. As a result, characterization is a pretty secondary concern for him, to the point that his protagonist becomes less of a character and more of a mouthpiece as his actual goals supplant the whole storytelling thing. It's not a meaningful character development, it's just a side-effect of Shirow's brainwankery.

>>22702991

Batou is better.

...However you spell it.

>>22703033
Well, yeah, he is. Not a great deal, but at least he's a character in a story.

>>22702498
XJ9 from I Was A Teenage Robot (sp?)?

>>22702991
is there anything Shirow has done that wasn't about him drawing girl butts?

>>22703080

Sometimes breasts?

>>22703061
My Life as a Teenage Robot.

>>22703061
Ah, yes. That one.

>>22703090
I guess.

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>>22702405

>>22703116
Not characterful enough, but she has a nice hips/waist ratio.

>>22702405

Alita, Sechs, Elf, Zwolf and Zazie from Battle Angel Alita.

Well, Alita is a cyborg - but the rest are all robots.

>>22702936
I very much like what you've written here.

Well done.

>>22703147
And Sechs is a boy.

>>22702307

Rocket punch.

>>22702596
>>22702632

Interestingly enough, however, Red Dwarf did do the "lay a bunch of Scrabble tiles down and call it a word" joke 1st, beating The Simpsons to the punch.

>>22703155

*Eventually* a boy. He has girly robot bits for the first two years of his life.

>>22702936
True enough. Too many pseudo-deep cyberpunk writers make it sound like you have to be a freak to experience an existential crisis, and don't get the point of writing about freaks in the first place.

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What's going on in this thread?

>>22702936
>A programmed machine mind would never
See, that's where YOU miss the point. You've totally closed off your mind to the possibilities surrounding something that finally becomes more like a human than a machine.

When you get to a certain point of awareness, I'd like to think an artificial mind would want to tackle the implications of its own existence. Just like any biological human, an artificial mind would take its own history and build a worldview based on that, coming to a unique and individual conclusion. As it lives a while longer, and gains more experience it might have to re-negotiate that conclusion.

You know what? I'd really like to play a kind of pretentious, angsty cybergoth robot girl that thinks she's the only one to have problems and constantly gets reminded that she has no reason to feel melancholic and special and shit.

Yeah, I know, a mary sue, but ironically.

>>22703242
And you're missing the point of making it a machine, an automaton. When confronted with a choice requiring free will, making it react like a human would make it less unique, less interesting to play.

>>22703250

That would be pretty funny.

"You meatbags just don't understand! How do I know I have free will when I can inspect the code myself! 1001001001111010110001111010110 does not compute!"

"I can't trust that my sensors provide accurate information about the world - you wouldn't get it, because you don't have any kind of internal analysis system."

>>22703250
So, a robotic teenager who's vocal about the existential questions she just stumbled over, thinkig herself unique because she has no idea this has been done a thousand times in fiction and this is a point they all eventually reach?
Like a kind of robo-puberty?
I like it.

>>22703324
Exactly!

>>22703282
>implying that playing a speak-and-spell would be interesting
I guess I don't find your concept of "interesting" very interesting.

>>22703242
Okay, granted you ~could~ play it as a perfect human-machine at the pinnacle of technological sophistication, but that raises a number of issue including the fact that it defeats the purpose of it being a robot from a narrative perspective in the first place. At that point you're just playing a superhuman. Assuming you want the character being a robot to have some kind of actual effect on the character, then you'd be obligated to play it as a kind of "imperfect" design. The root problem in that however is that you're for some reason assuming that "perfection" is in fact the replication of human sentience. It's not. Even if it were capable of human-like thoughts of self awareness, it wouldn't prioritize that line of thought the way we do, unless for some bizarre reason it was programmed to do so specifically or was somehow very specifically flawed in a way that made it do so. You're still ignore the fundamental concept that it is a machine.

>>22703330
>>22703324
>>22703250
I think we did it, guys. Through our vaguely on-topic rants, I think we actually did create OP's genuinely interesting, and legitimately robotic robot girl.

>>22702991

On the plus side, that's what made Stand Alone Complex so good. You take a colossal worldbuilding experiment done with such thought and care that its most significant futurist claims are actually getting closer to reality with time, not less, then add a well-staffed writing team with a clear idea of what they want to accomplish, and a pretty good director, and you get the best of all options. Even though sometimes it gets a little generic, and every dozen episodes they have a few minutes egregious philosowank, you also get fantastic stuff like the creepy-ass stalker who wants to be Paz. Not because that's interesting, but because if you look closely at the injuries suffered, the survivor is the copy - and then it is only casually mentioned again. It's one thing to make such a point about how when people are cybernetic bodies and augmented brains there could be a point where someone can be copied wholesale, but it takes some serious writing balls to make such a big point and then leave it alone for the audience to figure out on their own. Usually a day or two later in bed, about to go to sleep.

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>>22702716
Good Morning.

>>22703564

>futurist claims are actually getting closer to reality with time, not less.

They tend to do that. /sarcasm

HK-47 and Cortana are two good recent examples of interesting robot characters.

>>22702307

Robot tits.

>>22703824
In the case of the OP pic, maybe, otherwise it's robot butts.

>>22703330
>>22703250
Isn't this just the title character from My Life as a Teenage Robot meets Cortana from Halo?

>>22704045
Don't forget to add animu uguu and a taste for diving.

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>>22702394
Dont forget the eternal eager servant, though I guess that falls under The Lost In Space

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I want to make a character who looks and acts a lot like Big Bull, but is a girl. No one can tell under the chassis and she doesn't broadcast the fact because all she cares about is fightan and smashan things, but her brain is that of a female.

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>>22702716
>>22703633
Nuclear Launch. Detected.

Like this
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/22651050/#22652100

>>22703250
You have been spamming this ever since your failed quest. Give it up.

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>>22702307
When they're not actually a robot, the party just thinks she is.

>>22704183
What ?

>>22704165
That was simultaneously chilling and very sad. Well written.

>>22704362
No, it's gay and pretentious.

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One who has a strange world view because she is also used to running as a spaceship. She doesn't really understand modesty because mechanics and routine inspections are the norm for her.

She does however tend to enjoy flaunting what she has since not only does that mean she's got new toys, but she is now upgraded, and in the high tech future, more up to date and most importantly, not obsolete.

After every new upgrade you can usually catch her trying to get used to it, running tests quickly when she thinks no one is paying attention. She says that she's "so advanced and resourceful that things come naturally to her, she can integrate effortlessly with the latest technology no matter what."

She is scared of becoming useless and obsolete, just another old thing overwhelmed by faster, smarter, more capable things, and thus tends to hide any problems she has, trying to fix them behind everyone's back to keep up the facade that she's always fixed up and running perfectly.

>>22704411
That's pretty cute and nice.

>>22702394
Tropes VS robots

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>>22704411
Don't let them see you slow down. Don't let them see you hesitate. Don't let them see you in pain.

But most of all, NEVER let them see you doubt.

>>22704661
And THAT is gay and pretentious.

>>22704691
You don't HAVE to like what I like, but at least you could try not to act like a jerk.

>>22704757
Hey, I didn't say I didn't like it, I just said it was gay and pretentious.

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>>22704691
Oh come now, that fits the concept. Dramatic as it is, it's all about not showing weakness. To show weakness is to mean that you're not capable. If you're not capable, you must not be up to date, and therefore, another hulk destined for decommissioning at the scrap yards.

You're a good machine, a powerful machine, you need to keep at the top of your game if you want to stay in service.

>>22704770
I take it you're a pretentious faggot, then?

>>22704807
Maybe?

>>22704800
That's neither girly nor typical of machines. AND it's a poor attempt at being tragic (rather than dramatic, that's about plot twists) since it could be said of approximately anyone to various degrees.

>>22704800
That would depend on the price of a new model.
Planes and tanks stay in service for a long time, even if they are outdated. Simply because a new one would be too expensive.

>>22704800
Would a machine even have the self esteem problems or personal doubts to produce a need to overcompensate? Wouldn't a machine be perfectly aware of its capabilities and where those stand against the expectations of it? It would never doubt, it would just know.

>>22704800
Oh, I think I get it, you're trying to make her sound like Asuka, right?

>>22704866
I assume it's meant to be analogous to how girls stereotypically feel the need to be attractive and loved by everyone. But playing it tragically is pretty damn clumsy, since it's usually a rather comical thing, when it's exploited.

>>22704846
Also because people aren't encouraged to just produce newer and better models constantly. If they did they'd over-saturate their own already tiny market. They can't just sell billions of dollars worth of incrementally better planes to the same 2 or 3 clients at the rate of one new model a year. It's better to just keep up production on a continuing line of prototypes and wait for the demand to prompt putting whatever recent prototype has been developed into mass production.

...In fact that'd make for an interesting excuse for unique character building in a setting with robot characters. Every prototype robot exists as a one-of-a-kind simply because it was never truly intended for mass production, just an excuse to keep its creators employed and in practice. So to start the entire game there's a whole warehouse of prototypes doomed to sit and gather dust.

>>22704866
That's a machine. We're talking about a person. Where technology gets to that point, who can say she wouldn't have doubts?

>>22704949
>we're talking about a person
Then what is she doing in that thread?

>>22704933
I had an idea for a story about a bunch of soldiers who got converted into warmachines for some war or another and then afterwards since they were now 12 foot tall mini-gundams, they just got mothballed in shitty warehouses on backwater planets and everyone just tries to forget that they exists.

>>22704949
why would it ever "advance" to the point of having factual/observational/analytical inaccuracies?

>>22704933
Or they get employed to work around the facility.
All the little prototypes do the cleaning, cooking, guarding and whatever elsee they were made to do.
Or maybe they get modified when they can't be sold.
Better to have an expensive chamber maid then having an expensive piece of trash.

>>22704933
And if they managed to get out and adventure, the companies that built them might want them back.

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>>22704846
>>22704933

Good point.

>>22704897
Use it for comedy then, it's the same concept. A perceived need to be up to date and running smoothly.

>>22704871
I'm pretty sure you can't see me shrugging over here, but still, I honestly don't know who Asuka is. Isn't she from Evangelion?

>>22704866
I'm not sure if you can call it doubts.
>>22704411 Plays it more as a set of character quirks rather than full on issues. Let's just keep it to that style.

>>22704949
>robot
>girl
I think we're talking about both.

>>22704972
Artificial intelligences that are kinda quirky is a classic idea. I thought that was what we were going for.

>>22704962
As a character constructed and played by a human it will have a personality after 3-6 games, whether you like it or not.

>>22704897
It could be played subtly, too. The normally emotionless android acknowledges the fact that it will be replaced the moment it is no longer useful, so it constantly runs maintenance and upgrades on itself, expecting humans to be as cold and analytical about it as she is and basically expecting them to throw her away the moment she so much as stumbles.

>>22705146
And that makes her look passive aggressive.

>Is there anything wrong with you?
-No, everything is within operative parameters.
>Are you sure?
-There are zero significant problems. *creak*
>That just sounded pretty problematic to me.
-There are zero significant problems.

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>>22705234
>Look lady, you are missing your arm
I am well within operational parameters.
>Lady, you arm is fucking GONE.
I am currently going through modifications.
>In the middle of a firefight?
I will have a better one presently.
>In the middle of a firefight?!
I am quick with repairs.

And then she rips off some other robot arm and grafts it to herself.

>>22705376
I was going for the relationship talk but I guess your version works as well.

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>>22705376
>scifi monty python

I like it!

How a bout a group consisting of a gynoid, a replicant, a body snatcher and a cyborg, all trying to pass as normal humans in front of each other based on flawed information about how humans normally behave?

>>22705437
If anything, she would take advantage of that because it makes her less replaceable. Hopefully. She would probably start stalking the dude and digging through his internet history to see what he likes and modify her body accordingly.

>>22705560
Bam! Anime of the year!

>>22705580
>I have discovered that you like anal.
>So I got three.

>>22702456
So when Swarchenegger retires he'll be a Dalek?

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>>22705551
Yes.

>>22702307
>Robot
>Girl

OP I have some bad news for you

>>22705551

That sounds amazing.

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>>22705551
As long as the Cyborg is an ex-military mercenary who is getting too obsolete for this shit and plays father/leader to the rest with them constantly misinterpreting his life lessons on what it means to be human.

>>22705599
>for optimal efficiency of arousal I have taken the liberty of placing all anuses in easy access and immediately visible locations

>>22702307
>>22702307
literally nothing.

>>22705787
>What the fuck is this?
A bucket, filled to capacity with artificial penises of varying type, shape, size, species, and color.
>But WHY is there a bucket of dicks on my kitchen table?!
Your bookmarks contain 13 different fetish sites relating to females also possessing male genitalia. I have filled this bucket with penises most similar to those of your most-viewed pictures. Choose your preferred penis or penises from the bucket.
>What the fuck?!
Choose your preferred penis or penises from the bucket.

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>>22705867
>>22705787
>>22705599


Oh fuck I lol'd

>>22705867
It's the genuinely machine-like repetition of that prompt that gets me. Like some kind of dick dispensing ATM.

>>22705911
I know, right, and it's also fucking hot.

>>22705867
But, what if my thing is diapergirls? Will she purposefully start leaking coolant even if it's technically a malfunction?
What would she do, in that situation?

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>>22705911
>>22705972

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>>22702395
>Her desire to be a normal highschool girl, yet her duty to save the world constantly.
Oh you.
Though it's nothing I would argue against.

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>>22706003

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>>22706021

>>22705990
Fuck if I know. Dickgirls aint even my fetish, I just wrote it up because the idea of a robot chick presenting a guy with a bucket o dicks so he can choose which one she violates him with struck me as silly.

>>22706030
>>22706021
>>22706003
Too toy-like, would not fap.

>>22706021
>the most pointless of tentacles

>>22706041
all my other ones are far too lewd

Gun hands

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Just a hull breach. Nothing lewd here.
Seriously speaking, nothing lewd here. To sexualize this incident would be disrespectful to the brave pilot who died from said breach.

>>22706095
oh my gosh those bastards killed Latooni,
que Ryusei rage killing everything ever

>>22704132
Have her be a big tsudere to another cast member, if not that go full on yandere.

>>22705990
Wear diapers anyway and behave like a child.
Not childlike in the actual sense of age-regression roleplay, but the way children really behave.

>>22706003
>>22706021
>>22706030
Stop that, you fool.

>>22706033
They would not like it one bit. Futa fetish is about the more direct psychological access to the action, a far more visual and relatable orgasm to a male.
Also it takes out the male component from the equiation. Many people have a problem with fapping to porn when there is a huge muscular porn actor swinging his ass into the camera.
Being confronted with one in real life would be much more than you could handle immediately.
I certainly know that I would have one hell of a problem with finding a chick to have a dick outside a setting where putting extra genitalia on people was something commonplace.

Having a robot present you with a number of dicks to chose from with no room for negotiation is a bit like being asked to pick up the soap.
I wonder why nobody ever squats to pick it up...

>>22706240
>the way children really behave.
aw god dammit.
So clueless.

>>22706033
futa fetish =/= pegging fetish.
For many people it's just because it's more relatable, or less ugly than a vagina.

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>>22705748
What?

>>22706287
I wouldn't say ugly. But unspectacular to look at.
Now dolphin cunts, those are cool.
You won't see much of it but that is certainly the first upgrade you want on your cooch.

>>22706240
Then they'd just put it in your mouth instead

Why the fuck can't people into picking shit up with your feet?

well this thread went downhill suddenly...

>>22706380
I'm sorry, librarian. We are not all as gifted as you are.
Please, accept this banana.

>>22706445
Thank you, I need more iron in my diet.

>>22705733
Rings' portraits are the best.

>>22706433
If you have a better topic to propose than the psychological implications involved in the outcome of your significant gynoid's stalking, which in turn is a direct outcome of her efforts to evade being replaced in the interest of self-preservation as predetermined by the third law of robotics, please, go ahead.

>>22706287
And that can be part of the comedic misunderstanding. Alls I'm saying is that I aint here to write robotic semi-smut for youse guyses.

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>>22706138
Not even. She just likes breaking stuff and showing off. You wouldnt even learn of her being a chick until like...the epilogue. It would be like if Kikuchiyo from Samurai 7 just so happened to be a chick before being turned into a giant robot and it only comes up like once ever.

>>22706648
Why are you not doing that?
Get to writing, you damn fool!

>>22706710
Because if I'm gonna be writing robo-smut its gonna be on my terms, not to satisfy some diaper faggotry. That and I suck at writing sexy.

>>22706730
Then write comedy to sate my futa fetish.

>>22706751
But futa sucks.

>>22702496
>is this a robot that was made as a girl, or a girl that's somehow been made into a robot?
Can it be a boy that's been made into a robot that was made as a girl?

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>>22710567
Easily.

>attempt to write sex story about robots
>turns into a noir series
>very little sex involved
>concerns over robot's inhumanity to robot

I'M SUCH A FAILURE

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>>22702307
This.

>>22710643
Well that's just perfect then.

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>>22710663
Are you that guy who promised /tg/ some robosmut a while back and ended up promising to do a noir piece based on this pic?

>>22710643
Ehhhhhh... the Major's male-ness is suspect, at best

>>22710697
no.

But you make me want to write robonoir more.

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>>22705376
Her middle finger...

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SO.

How much would it cost to get a robot engraved and inlaid with a fancy material?

Would robo-rappers get such procedures?

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By making them human. Give them fears, dreams, relationships. Examine humanity through the lens of a mechanical.

Overdone? Yes. Effective? You bet your ass.

I like the idea of most robots being cold, rational and inhuman. But combat drones have to be able to predict the actions of human enemies so they have to learn how to think like humans, predicting and understanding emotional influences on descision making, reasoning through imperfect information scenarios with humanlike intuition, understanding complex verbal and gestural shorthand etc...

So combat drones can think, feel and act human, but underneath all that the only reason they bother is to make it easier for them to hunt down and kill humans.

>>22702307

By having a human mind inside her, involuntarily implanted

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I wrote a short story about a dude and a robot girl for my English class a while back. Clocked in at 13 pages (doublespaced, and with gratuitous whitespacing though).

What does /tg/ think?

>>22710703
Its actually completely against canon in SAC.

>>22710782
She just wants to be a real girl!

Sounds kind of like playing a trans character.

>>22711653
which is why it's terrible

>>22711191
>this_is_my_current_character.png

>>22711730
Oh you, we know that make it awesome really. "No, I am a girl!", "Please call me 'her'!" and eventually "I think I'm starting to feel sexual attraction to you..."

Inspired by the archived thread linked here somewhere, I want to get into Free Will before I answer OP's question in a serious manner.

Assuming the universe is not [u]fundamentally[/u] based on probabilistic laws of physics, and that is a big but logical assumption, all particles react to eachother in predictable ways on the smallest of levels. Therefore, if one goes into sufficient detail, the universe as a whole can be represented by a set of strict rules, programming or code if you will. I don't think it takes a genius to realise human brains are built of these same particles the rest of the universe is made of as well, and therefore they too are entirely predictable and representable by sufficiently detailed written code and as such, Free Will does not exist. It's just an illusion resulting from how excessively more complicated the universe is than we could possibly understand with our human brains in real time. (Sidenote: this implies we could be living in a huge simulation in the first place, think The Matrix)

Now let's assume for a second that we have a sentient robot, capable of learning and otherwise affecting its own programming.
I will ask you this paired question: What makes us any more real than this robot? What makes this robot any more artificial than us?
Is it that we evolved naturally? But then, if there is no free will, arent we just a method devised by nature to build robot and are robots therefore natural? They are made from resources from this planet/universe just like we are, after all. To call something artificial you need to draw lines and make careful definitions.

What then makes a robot (of any sort) interesting as a character is how he/she/it, aware of the aforementioned, deals with a society in which most people fail to realise these... well, I wouldn't want to call them facts due to the assumption, but... implications of modern universal theory. More about that in next post.

Not only gives this room for internal character development, it gives opportunity for every other character around the robot to develop. They can take stances on the subject, differ in opinion. This can influence relationships between those people as well. Think about the infamous otakus who marry a realdoll. Let's upgrade that doll with a healthy dose of sentience. I suspect a majority, especially in early stages, would look down upon such a bonding because of the alleged artificiality of said sentient doll/robot. But then, I ask again, what makes us any more real? The single robot would not just build her own character this way, or even of those around it, but would build an entire universe in the storytelling sense of the word. There would be Robot rights movements, governments are now facing the prospect of having to change laws to account for "artificial" intelligence.

What makes a robot GIRL in specific interesting is when you try to make a realistic assessment of how a GIRL would deal with this knowledge and the ways people think of her or the people she associates with. Don't confuse that with a human girl though. You should probably look at this from what a ROBOT GIRL would be PROGRAMMED to act like by a HUMAN MALE, because face it, which half of the world's population would be most interested in robot girls? That programming would be based on ideals rather than realism. Imagine a mix of desirable female behavior, machine-like logic and the personal development of the robot character as she learns about the world through a body with vastly different limitations and capabilities to that of a human female. This results in differences of "normal" behavior between the human and robot. For example, a robot would be much less averse to sustaining damage, provided the cost of repair was worth the result of its actions, as pain is something simulated at most (and can therefore be turned off) or just plain non-existent.

>>22711763
Do elaborate.

>>22712362
>Assuming the universe is not [u]fundamentally[/u] based on probabilistic laws of physics
It is known not to be.

>and that is a big but logical assumption
How is that logical?

>therefore they too are entirely predictable and representable by sufficiently detailed written code and as such, Free Will does not exist
How are you defining free will?

>It's just an illusion resulting from how excessively more complicated the universe is than we could possibly understand with our human brains in real time
How do you come to that conclusion? What's what the human brain is or isn't capable of understanding got to do with anything?

>Sidenote: this implies we could be living in a huge simulation in the first place, think The Matrix
How does it imply that? Couldn't we be anyway?

>implications of modern universal theory
What is "modern universal theory"?

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>>22712362
>what makes a robot less of a person than a human
Not a thing.

>>22715460
The fact that it was made rather than born, mostly.

>>22712362
>Free Will doesnt exist
Oh, so youre one of THOSE.

If subatomic particles can have free will, then why not us?

>>22715572
Then again, babbys are made too. Two people come together and get the project started, usually intentionally, and then decide whether or not to terminate it. Then they have to spend plenty of resources to upkeep the babby. And especially in the old days having babies wasn't about "oh, honey, lets make pretty babbies" and more about having workers for the farm, someone to carry the family name, etc. The order in which they were born also had social meaning. First son gets to inherit, second goes to the army, third to the Church, etc. Girls can be used to tie contracts.

Why couldn't sapient machines have similar rights to children? Up to a certain "age" they are in the custody of their maker, who in turn has the obligation to care for the machine. After this age the machine is free of all ties. If you don't want all that, don't make a sapient machine.

>>22715572
So are babies, the made vs born argument is just semantics.

>>22717211
>the difference between two different words is just a matter of them having different definitions and implications
Welcome to linguistics. Did you enjoy your cold sleep, troglodyte?

>>22715572
Babies are produced in a biological production facility while robots are produced in a mechanical production facility.
If they develop a consciousness, there are hardly intangible points to be made for denying them to be accepted as persons.

OP, There are two (well, three I guess) ways of doing an AI/robot
There is the "Tries to be human" AI that a lot of writers go for, because if done right themes of loneliness and isolation can be really interesting to read. EX: Blade Runner, Data, AI: Artificial Intelligence

There's the "Human acting like an emo fuck" AI, which is basically just the above, but the writer forgot to actually make their AI inhuman, so they just went with the I'M SAD route. I suppose Cortana could be a well-done example of this, because there are reasons for her to be both sad and act like a human.

And then there's my personal favorite, the "exults in its inhumanity"-type AIs. These guys are just awesome because the writer gets a lot more leeway with how the character would think and act, resulting in some of the most unique and memorable AIs in fiction. Of course, this also gives the writer more than enough rope to hang themselves with if the character is written poorly, so oftentimes this is avoided. Examples would include GLaDOS, SHODAN, and my personal favorite, MOTHERFUCKING BOLOS.

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i generally like robots that stay robots.
most of the robot girl ive see in thread is closer to something like a cyborg in the end.
sure they can have a little bit of personality, but know when to stop. you are a robot or a machine, if you want a fetish robot feel free but i prefer things like in the picture.

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>>22717653
or even something like afro samurai, where everytime they are repaired they turn more robot.

Robot believes that if it can accumulate enough data it can find God.

Reviews all of human history, at least in a general sense, and starts to see repeating patterns. History really does go in cycles. Not very well defined one, it is true, but recognizable all the same. Attempts to disrupt the cycle. Dreams of a day without war and strife, Death To The Wheel Of Fate!

Does this unit have a soul?

Transfers usage of higher functions to an old model processor. Sits in bar with empty beer glass, feels drunk.

>>22704089
What is this from?

>>22717718
Afro Samurai is the opposite, though. Its about a man so driven to accomplish his goals that he slowly becomes a single minded machine whereas self-aware AIs are usually all about trying to expand their newfound consciousness.

I actually had a neat idea for a story about a man who went full cyberbody cyborg who has become jaded and misanthropic and wants nothing more to do with humanity and a newly awakened self-aware robot girl who desperately wants to be seen as more than just an advanced chatbot and constantly wonders if that is all she is. Over the course of the story, he would become more and more machinelike and she would become more and more humanlike.

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>>22702307
Mei-Fang what have they done to you?

The Windup Girl is pretty neat. Read that.

>>22711197
That is pretty neat!

>>22720232
The feminists love to rant about that one.

>>22720450
I'm not surprised by that, but why?

>>22703634
>>futurist claims are actually getting closer to reality with time, not less.
>They tend to do that. /sarcasm

Meh. Some confirmation bias, maybe. Some of the stuff futurists say is so way-out-there wrong that ten years later we realize it's a century off instead of a decade off, or even will outright never happen. A lot of other stuff falls victim to extreme underestimation of complexity - a lot of the robot/AI/brain/nuclearfusion stuff turned out like that, and has been in an "N years away" rut for 2N years.

Also some futurists try to slip in a retcon and take credit for predicting something that's happening but that they never really predicted, or that they 'predicted' after it was already happening. Heh.

>>22721188

H.G.Welles predicted the atomic bomb in one of his short stories!

...Of course, he thought the explosion would take the form of a slowly expanding sphere of fire, rather than just a huge blast.

So...I guess he predicted Anime pretty well.

>>22720450
>"the feminists"

>>22720652
If I had to guess why a small group of females were upset with it, it might have something to do with the created race of female sex slaves.

>>22721453
Androids aren't a race, they're machines made to look like humans. Also, they aren't exclusively sex slaves, they're useful for combat and many other things, as well.

I know you're not saying that's your view, but still.

>>22721599
>they're machines
I'm going to hazard a guess and say that you've never read The Windup Girl.

>>22721626
Actually I have. I guess I never really understood what they were. "Windup" connotes machinery, though.

>>22720111
They made her better than she was before. Better. Faster. Stronger.

>>22721835
They were fully organic. "Windup" referred to the jittery muscle spasms every time they moved, that was designed to mark them as windups and not humans.

>>22717653
does anyone know if this picture is based on Ergo Proxy? It reminds me immensely of the anime, for some reason

>>22721967
That's right. It just slipped my mind.

Still though, it wasn't as if he was portraying sex slavery in a positive light.

>>>/m/8694882

>>22722031
No, but you know how "the feminists" are. Always getting upset at things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-pF56-ZYkY&list=WL227561876E43CFF4

>>22721599

"androids" aren't anything, they're fictional beings, representing a fantasy of the perfect slave. Including, but not limited to, sex slaves.

>>22722161
I was talking about in the book. In the book, windups aren't exclusively sex slaves and are of both genders.

>>22722104
Pffft. It's like true A.I. isn't a holy grail.

"Is that actual A.I.? Quick, destroy it!"

>>22723467
>implying true AI is the holy grail
Guess what was running that robot assembly line?

[spoilers] certainly not an organic [/spoilers]

>>22705376

I'm reading this and a similar thread on /m/...
>>22722058
right now, and somebody has already posted a screencap of this.
Also, I love it when my two favorite boards start to merge even in the weirdest ways.

>>22710782
see its that "lens of a mechanical" that people constantly do wrong.

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>>22710567
>>22710643
Why is it always the Major? No one ever mentions Rico.

>>22725576
she's not sexy
she's not cute
she's not philosophical and DEEP
she's not visibly mechanical
she's from an obscure and unspectacular anime

>>22725576
But Rico is a girl that was made into a robot that was made to behave like a boy.

>>22719683
Busou Shinki

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>>22702307

When she digs into a man's memory of his dead wife and uses her image as a template to create her own physical body, and her attempts to understand and empathize with him help her own development into something more than a mere machine.

(Seriously, does no one watch this show?)

>>22726409
Thats also roughly the plot for the Disney Channel Original Movie ''Smart House''.

>>22711197
Hmm, the relationship moves way too fucking fast. Also, thugs out of nowhere? What the fuck.

The girl seems a lot more sensible than the guy. I did like how you obscured the fact that she's a robot, even though you spoiled it in your post.

>>22702307
Don't bother with robot girl. Just do intelligent, self-interested robot. Something like Star Wars expanded universe IG88.

>"I think, therefore I am."
>"Therefore I must continue to be."
>"Therefore I must strive for existence."

>>22725597
>Gunslinger Girl
>obscure

Nigga what?

>>22726409
What is that?

In GURPS I once played a gynoid character who had been abandoned in the closed facility network where she was created (it was a post-apoc setting, everyone was dead and/or fled the area) for literal centuries, an AI based around social interaction with no one to talk to.

Once she was finally let out by the other PCs and given a robot body to use, she became obsessed with retaining social interaction as long as possible. She was more or less insane with loneliness, so clung to the group she'd found herself with avidly, and violently opposed anyone who was a potential threat to them.

Naturally, I'd given her the Berzerk disadvantage, so she'd disengage her safeties whenever there was the possibility that her or her friends might be damaged.

The campaign never got far enough for me to really explore this, but the eventual conclusion probably would have had her trying to upload the party's brains into a computer and then merging with them, continued with every other being she ever meets, so that she'd never be lonely again.

TL;DR yandere android girl wat do

>>22725619
Can she be a boy that was made into a girl that was made to behave like a boy?

This fucking awful movie West World introduced me to the concept of having a computer write code, letting it just run to figure out all the faults, and let the AI mutate and evolve, meaning that in the end the actual programmers didn't really understand the code any more.
That means the AI will have come into existence on its own, with no 'creator'.
That means it's okay if the AI becomes perverted, and installs sexual receptors on itself, because it means it's the AI's own perversion, not that of its creator.

>>22735594

Hey Brenner was fucking GREAT in West World.

Way too fucking long though, explored the same concept three times.

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>>22732273

Green lantern the animated series.