>>24113225
nod.

"Yeah, I'm ready, be sure and keep some more foci handy for a quick return journey though, I might just be over-thinking it, but I have a bad feeling about this."

Yep.

Tell Lunch to make some teleport foci sometime.

>>24113225
"Yup. If I need evac I'll text you, see you soon."

Make sure we have a pile of mind fuckering Foci with us before we go, we should have those in packs.

>>24113225
"yes and thanks so much for doing this all the time.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance

The previous thread is now archived. Remember to vote it up.

>>24113272
Also make sure we have five or six teleportation foci in case we need to port ourself to the Lotus sanctum after getting shot. Just saying it might not be the worst idea....

>>24113312
Do we even know how to teleport?

I know we assisted on the sunstrike and the fuckyoutengu spells, but I don't think we can do ourself yet.

>>24113225
Yep. Let's rock.

>>24113335
We can, we just havent been successful at it.

Did we know how to make a max illusion at our class introduction? Nope, but we did it anyways. Plus it's not that advanced a concept.

>>24113225
>>24113260
this

>>24113335
we know how but aren't good at it yet

>>24113376
I could argue that that was from putting more effort into enchantment than anything else, as well as having a bonus to it for being an incubus.

I just don't want to wind up inside a wall.

>>24113409
I'm more worried about the obvious dextra trap we're teleporting into. We've assisted in enough teleportations to understand the spell, we have two squares of conjuration.

You're going to type out a pre-made evac text. Your father, Lin, and Liz will be included in the recipients. Will you also include Dane, Hera, and Sam?

>>24113409
I proposed preparing for a last ditch survival effort. Basically, if your options are down to uncertain death and certain death, wouldn't you want the odds tipped even slightly in your favor when you take the gamble?

>>24113516
Sam + Hera no. Dane maybe.

>>24113516
Yes, especially Sam since he is going all Nightcrawler Society.

>>24113516
nope

>>24113516
Dane, but not Sam and Hera, I don't really trust Hera well enough for that yet.

>>24113516
Hmm, Hera no, Dane no, Sam I'm tempted to say yes, but if we do tell dad to text Sam to stand down if he gets us home first.

>>24113516
>>24113537
this
tell L+L and dad Sam and Hera are also on the list. And to let them know if they get us.

>>24113537
Wouldn't Dane take the time to check if this was a trap?

>>24113516
No, just the three from the tower.

>>24113516
Dand and dad.

Hera I don't trust at all. Sam is tempting, but he would probably just get himself killed if he tried to help.

>>24113590
Last time, Dane did try to teleport us out, but dad had already teleported us home.

>>24113599
dane*

>>24113516
If dad and the three Ls can't collectively extract us, we're pretty much done whether Sam and Hera get brought in or not.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to push our relationship with Dane. He's not going to risk himself for us, not if it means going up against all of Dextra.

>>24113516
Dane, not Hera and Sam. I don't trust Hera enough for this yet, and I doubt Sam would be able to react quickly enough.

>>24113537
I half expect our cum to start tasting like vanilla ice cream one of these days as a prank by Dane for making that crack.

Sure, put him on the list but don't expect timely help.

>>24113516
Maybe we could get dane to overwatch us. Have him watch over our arrival at the library with magic.

>>24113622
See >>24113615

Dane did try to teleport us out last time, but he was a bit slower than dad.

>>24113630
That would probably be expecting too much of him.

>>24113599
I'm pretty sure he'd only go as far as porting us out, but I could be wrong.

>>24113647
It's just scrying to make sure we aren't getting jumped.

>>24113630
Dane is a very busy man anon, don't expect him to make time for us without advanced notice if we aren't already in a life or death situation.

>>24113672
Have you seen how much time Dane devotes to prep work? This NPC has a life outside helping the PC.

>>24113516
just Dad and lin liz is working on her project

>>24113848
if we need help and they fail with out Liz she will never forgive her self for not being there. Liz goes on the list.

>>24113848
We're talking about an emergency text here man, who gives a damn if she's working on her project? If we need extraction, we need her assisting.

so is consensus Just Liz+Lin+Dad.
Hera is a no
Sam isn't strong enough and will likely get hurt too
Dane is to slow and we have asked to much already.

>>24113917
agree

>>24113917
I think it's okay to put Dane on the list, he won't be angry at us for an emergency text, if he feels like we owe him, he won't hesitate to call in a favour.

I find the image of a the nebulously gendered danger duo of MuscleWizard and TeleTwink to be simply too amusing for words.

Anyway, let's get texts off to Dad, Liz and Dane, then commence to jiggling.

>>24113917
Agree with one correction, Sam is strong enough. He teleports things for a living, we just don't trust him enough.

Best Idea, grab a scoped rifle and scout out the area before heading in, that is if theres a few buildings that we can use that are unconnected to the school.

Sounds like you want to keep it to just people living in your tower. Is that accurate?

>>24114097
the school is the whole cave.

>>24114125
Yeah sure

>>24114125
yes

>>24114125
flip a coin for Dane we seem ok ether way on him

>>24114097
its at the library people aren't stupid enough to fuck around there.

>>24114125
yes

>>24114125
mmhm

>>24114147
that was a yes

>>24114125
Sounds like a plan.

I have been looking at what we want to add to our basement. What dose everyone think of this list of what to do with the rooms form the top of the spiral down.

>>24114215
list her because Derp

1 play room for our daughters
2 library
3 Apocithary cabinants room
4 workshop
5 lab
6 rats
7 sitting room
8 storage
9 Spirit forge
10 parcour room
11 sex dungon
12 jail cells

>>24114232
Don't we already have a sitting room upstairs?

Also I don't think any of the underground rooms are big enough for a parkour room.

We should probably set aside actual private rooms for people at some point, it's fine with us all sharing beds at the moment, but people might enjoy their own bit of personal space as well.

You compose a premade emergency evacuation text. You stick Liz, Lin, and your dad in the recipient line. "If I need to get out of there, I'll just need to hit send," you tell him. "Keep your phone charged and on you."

"Of course," he says, nodding. He gives you a hug. "Feel free to ask for an evac if you're even suspecting it's an ambush. Don't wait for one to actually get sprung. I love you, Max."

"I love you too, Dad," you say, giving him a squeeze and then stepping into the circle. "Whenever you're ready."

He and Lunch both crouch at the edge of the circle and this time you actually are quite suddenly elsewhere. In front of the library, to be precise. Pierre is leaning against the door frame, checking his watch, and looks incredibly relieved when you arrive. He walks up and gives you a big hug.

"Oh, thank God you made it," he says in his French accent. It doesn't sound like the Parisian one you got to hear this weekend. You wonder idly where he's actually from. "I really need help with this spell. I still just cannot get it. Should we head in and get to work? I brought my notes."

What do you do?

>>24114302
Nod.

Attempt first seed plant before we get inside.

>>24114302
"Sure. Say, Pierre, you're from France, right? What part of France?"

Do this along with whatever shenanigans we are planning, I suppose.

>>24114232
also if we do this we should tell dad about the Spirit forge, parcour room & jail cells. Because they will require adjustments to those rooms all require adjustments to the wards for there conjuration effects.
>>24114282
the parkour room is supposed to be a room that we can turn on and make bigger on the inside with a variable parkour coarse, variable paint ball coarse and fixed form firing range.

>>24114282
parkour room.
exterdemitional space a city block of space

yea change the extra sitting room to a meal bedroom.

>>24114302
>>24114302
"Yea give me a bit to go over them, then we will get to work, so what temp foci do you have for this?"

>>24114302
Yep. Let's get to work. Read over his notes, ask about his foci.

>>24114302
"Sorry I'm late, been working on my own stuff.

Shall we?"

Walk in with him, hold his hand, initiate mindfuck so he can't perceive us as a Demon even with his Aura thing, we can also ignore his Mind Shield which is nice.

>>24114302
"Sure, let me take a look at what you've got."

We should wait until we understand how it works before we figure out a counter-enchantment to implant into him.

>>24114302
these >>24114327 >>24114344 >>24114362

>>24114302
"Don't thank grandpa, he's kind of a jerk."

THIS IS A JOKE, NOT A SERIOUS SUGGESTION.

>>24114344
Parisian are like the Texas of France they sound weird and smell bad, are rude and eat fumy shit and think too highly of them selves don't ask this.

>>24114361
this do it

>>24114404
this is fine too

>>24114344
He's from Quebec, calling it now. Nod and head in, wait until he's frustrated, tired and unfocused from working on the spell, then tap him on the shoulder to cast our seed spell on him (assuming that's the plan). The jolt of contact and his confused state should mask what we're doing if the spell isn't as subtle as we expect it to be.

>>24114419
>Parisian are like the Texas of France they sound weird and smell bad, are rude and eat fumy shit and think too highly of them selves don't ask this.

So true, a lot of French people, particularly in southern France, are pretty chill, but fucking Parisians are every single bad French stereotype given human form.

>>24114404
It's funny, but please don't make these jokes, some posters run with them to rile up the audience.

>>24114404
Exactly why I will vote against it, jesus don''t even joke man.

>>24114443
Son of a minister from Haiti or some shit.

Calling it harder.

>>24114443
>Pierre is Quebecois
Oh God. I've been against mindraping him already in case one of his buddies notices, but fuck that.

If he is, no mercy.

>>24114232
so are we all agreed on this plan?
If so we need to tell dad so he can plan for the conjuration effects in rooms 9 10 and 12 as well as the anchor points in the ceiling and walls in 11.

1 play room for our daughters
2 library
3 Apocithary cabinants room
4 workshop
5 lab
6 rats
7 meals room
8 storage
9 Spirit forge
10 parcour room
11 sex dungon
12 jail cells

>>24114494
That would explain the deep under current of demon hate the kid exudes. Now starting to hope you're right, it's more fun to break a missionary's son.

>>24114515
Sure, we should add rooms for our daughters when they're grown up, but that won't be for another year and a bit, so that can wait for a second expansion.

>>24114515
apothecary cabinets*
parkour*

>>24114494
If Pierre says Haiti I declare shenanigans.

>>24114534
Sex with the son of the Missionary position?
H-how lewd!

>>24114443
we can do this after we read the notes and ask him to tell it to us so we can see were he is having a problem

>>24114504
Well, I didn't see that coming when I posted my speculation. Fine with it, but didn't see it coming.

archive follower for this quest here. just saying i am slightly dissapointed that you guys did not invite the twins...

but had a great time on paris arc II.

anyway Good Luck guys!

>>24114553
corrections made on my if that's not a vote against i will note this on the wiki.

>>24114574
We're going to ask the twins for bondage advice, which will be a fine bonding experience with them.

Pardon the pun, but seriously, maybe they'll tie Max up and spank her.

>>24114565
That's a little earlier than I was proposing, but sure if you think we can easily get away with it.

>>24114603
or invite her and Liz to a secondary sanctum of theirs for sum fun tutoring.

>>24114603
Mmm, no, don't count on it. As much as I can understand some people wanting to see such a thing happen, others, including myself, will probably avoid it outright.

>>24114600
It is not a vote against.

>>24114652
But how can Max master bondage if she has not been subject to it?

We want to learn how to do it right for Liz.

>>24114515
I think the actual sex dungeon probably shouldn't be on the same floor as the dryads' playroom. Maybe we could make another addition later or do you just plan to lock everyone out of the sub-basement when it's adult playtime?

>>24114617
just make it the focus version so we can get this done with quick.

>>24114670
By binding elementals of course.

>>24114652
this guy has a point if for no reason besides that would make Liz see Max as less dorm and Max wont go for that.

>>24114673
it is not the spiral goes down a number of flights of stares each of those rooms is at least half a story lower down the spiral than the last.

>>24114679
the point is to make him not see us as a demon and trust us.

>>24114670
At some point Max can do some self bondage for practice since we can always foci burn away the restraints. A more fun approach would be to experiment on Lunch while we're learning (she secretly wants to volunteer, you know it's true), as long as we can keep it safe.

>>24114724
>Summon lust archons and practice bondage on them as practice for Liz.
Femcock pls.

Sounds like the consensus is to chat with Pierre and try to plant some mental suggestion seeds while heading into the library to take a look at his notes. Is that accurate?

>>24114750
yes

>>24114750
Yes

>>24114750
Yeah, go for it.

>>24114750
Sounds about right. As long as we can make sure it's subtle enough not to tip him off if we fail.

>>24114750
Yes

Also find out his nationality / regionality

>>24114750
Is he France, Quebec, or Other?

>>24114673
also we have sex in the open including bead sheet bondage. and each room branches off the spiral not is cut through by it.
also higher numbers are lower basement levels.

>>24114743
Only if she knows about it, all we have to say is, "Hey Liz, these twins in my society are gonna give me some bondage pointers."

>>24114750
chat yes quietly we are in a library and no suggestions just the focus version of our spell that plants enough of a seed we can plant the suggestion after he tires him self out with strain so her has no defense.

>>24114790
ask him

>>24114790
*Crossing fingers for Haiti*

But yeah, ask.

>>24114811
He already has no defence, we gave him faulty mind shielding.

>>24114743
True. Hey, you remember the alchemical camouflage there was on Pre-Lunch's family sanctum? The door the was blended into the wall? We might want to set up some barriers like that for both dungeons, make it look like the stairs don't extend below the parkour room.

>>24114750
That's right, but we subtle.

>>24114811
if we do it this way we can even use the focus version after we ask if he wants us to cast a spell to help him study.

>>24114839
*be subtle.

>>24114790
Only Pierre can tell you that. I expect he's from French Guiana.

>>24114831
I like this suggestion if i hear no objections it is going on the plans.

>>24114750
Whatever we do, remember to check the Librarian's reaction when we walk in to see we're we are on the bribe-or-die/what-a-nice-young-lady-you-are scale. Oh shit, the ecosystem spell books we barrowed were due be pack in two weeks, not one right? If not we might need to get Lin to return those for us.

>>24114961
In general I think Femcock is putting returning books alongside calling mom in things Max is just assumed to be doing in timeskips.

>>24114997
>things Max is just assumed to be doing in timeskips.
Right. Like wearing pants.

Rolled 49, 17 = 66

"So, where are you from, anyway?" you ask Pierre.

"France," he says, a little surprised at the question. "I thought my accent made it a little obvious."

"No, I mean, where in France?" you ask. "I've spent a few days here and there in Paris, and you don't sound Parisian."

"Oh," he says. "Thank you. I grew up in Champagne. Well, mostly, anyway. My family moved around a bit, but that's where I lived for the past five years."

"Where did you live before that?" you ask.

"Here and there," he says. "We moved around a lot. It would have been a lot harder if we didn't have the church. That made it easy to get resettled in new communities."

Roll Enchantment to try to plant a suggestion seed in his head designed to filter out anything that could make him suspect you of being his enemy. You get a +5 bonus from temporary foci. I'll consider the first nine linked 1d100 rolls. Since you know the back door to his mind shield, you'll be rolling against his unshielded Mind score.

>>24115061
We dont wear pants in the tower

Rolled 57

>>24115101
It begins.

>>24115061
We don't wear pants, or clothes for that matter, unless we're going out or forget to take them off after getting home.

Rolled 40

>>24115101

Rolled 22

>>24115101
dice

>>24114997
my theory is as long as we mention it regularly it gets done but if we forget we may have issues with Max forgetting.

Rolled 95

>>24115101
which failed

Rolled 91

>>24115101
Well at least his rolls were also shit.

Rolled 30

>>24115101
IT BEGINS

Rolled 16

>>24115061
I thought it was assumed we don't wear clothing at home at all.


>>24115101
his mind score is 2 is he retarded?

Rolled 13

>>24115101

Rolled 97

>>24115101

Rolled 100

>>24115101
gogo gadget RAPE

Rolled 19

>>24115101

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>>24115101
Watch as we fail miserably, but since he also failed, he doesn't even notice.

>>24115137
Ours was 2 when we started.

He's just kind of stupid, retarded would be 1.

>>24115137

faulty shield we taught him dude

>>24115141
we started at a 2 and we were a little so yes a little.

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>>24115148
>tenth roll

>>24115122
>>24115126
>2 vs 0, winner Max
Ahhh yeeeaahhh

>>24115122
>>24115126
>>24115147
That ought to do it.

>>24115148
>Roll 10

huehuehue

>>24115148
This was the tenth roll.

It hurts. It physically hurts.

Rolled 22

>>24115101
what about the 2 perm foci for the emotion spell? wouldn't that be the first 11?

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>>24115184
>tenth
>roll

>>24115188
No, those are for the field spell, not suggestions.

>>24115188
Those are specifically for the emotion manipulating spell, which is not what we're doing is it?

>>24115148
10th roll damn.

Hey FemCOCK, does this count under our emotion manipulation Foci or Mental Attack Focus?

>>24115196
>>24115180
>>24115176
>>24115166
are you fucking serious.

God. I.
God.

Damnit. I was just about to make up for the 1 I rolled a few threads ago.

Fuck.

>>24115188
yes this the seed is from the emotion spell and if not this counts as a mind attack right?

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>>24115232
You just can't win.

>>24115233
No this is to force him to recognize us as a non threat, not emotional manipulation or mind attack.

>>24115233
No. It's not projecting a field, and a mental attack is straight up breaking people's brains, not subtly influencing them. Mental attacks are for putting people in comas.

>>24115264
Maybe this is a sign, you know? That I should get the fuck off of /tg/?

Or just stop rolling in these threads. That could be it.

>>24115349
No, i think we just need some more sacrafices to the dice god.

>>24115401
GET THE GOATS!

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>>24115401

Then I offer them that which they approve of.

>>24115122
>>24115126
>>24115147
You plant the suggestion in Pierre's mind. It filters his perception to remove suspicious things about you as subtly as possible and steers his mind away from suspecting you of any wrongdoing. It won't make him forget that you shot someone in the face in front of him, but it will make him more inclined to listen to your side of it, and more likely to not notice or forget that your aura is unusual.

It's already working, in fact. You don't need to roll Soul to keep him from noticing what you just did.

What do you do now?

>>24115438
They only take musclebutts and dryad daughterus these days.

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>>24115349
It's a sign that you shouldn't even get out of bed. At least in dreams, you can be competent.
Or you can end up completely fucking up the order of switches needed to operate an elevator built into a bathtub while the random asian chick in it looks on is disdain and your dryad waifu giggles at you, before finally figuring the damn thing out and descending into a warped grotto full of other dryads locked in interpretive dance poses and their grovemother for a family dinner that gets rudely interrupted by a sapiant neon-green triangle of light that keeps shining over everything and forming mosaics on the ceiling.
My dreams get weird sometimes.

>>24115449
Yessss. Gooood

Look over his notes. Let's help him out now.

>>24115449
Let's read over his notes and check what Foci he's chosen.

>>24115449
Study his notes with him.

>>24115449
Go into the library with him, and take a look at the notes about his project.

>>24115438
Virgins, plenty of those around here.

>>24115465
At least the bathtub wasn't full of spaghetti, and the triangle wasn't singing godawful teen popstar songs.

>>24115466
>>24115468
>>24115471

this and have him just brain storm temp foci as many as she can write down as we go over it. ask questions find out if he got any help form any one else on this, and what parts.

>>24115542
It didn't sing, but it screamed sometimes when someone squirted it with the spray bottle. Which just got it squirted again. It was very badly behaved for a sapient hue.

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>>24115449
Do we even know anyone called Marvin?

You sit down with him and start studying his notes. Before anything else, you want to see how the Dextra Domini aura detection spell works. It's probably too late to do anything about it, but it couldn't hurt to shield yourself. Plus, you can't exactly help Pierre learn it if you don't understand it yourself.

Roll Mind to study the spell. You get a +2 from Focus and a +1 from Memory. I'll consider the first six linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 75

>>24115657

Rolled 76

>>24115657
>1

Rolled 7

>>24115657

Rolled 5

>>24115657

Rolled 30

>>24115657
OH GOD HERE WE GO

Rolled 9

>>24115657
boop

Rolled 30

>>24115657

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>>24115657

>>24115664
>>24115670
2/6, not bad.

>>24115664
>>24115670
2/6
Acceptable.

>>24115664
>>24115670
It's pretty obvious, actually, especially with what your dad taught you about people pushing out energy when socializing. It picks up on the timbre of energy being put out - or lack thereof - and gives people a color-coded aura accordingly. It's simple, effective, and not terribly precise. With how it's designed, it means that energy-consumers, like incubi and succubi, would show up more as blank spots than having an actual particular aura, unless actively projecting. This method must be inherently and entirely different from the method Dane used to get an imprint from you, or else he wouldn't have had anything to work with.

You're not sure whether or not this is the only Dextra Domini detection spell, but it should be relatively easy to fool it by just pushing out energy patterned after normal human girls, something which you consume plenty of on a regular basis.

What do you do now?

>>24115833
I guess we can try to teach it to him, but we have to take care to disguise ourselves before that. Explain the concepts to him, but save the practical for our next session.

>>24115833
Give Pierre praise, and a little human contact. Then tell him that as nice as it's been working with him, you're on a tight schedule and you've gotta run.

That's assuming we don't have the practice to estrogenize his balls - I'd love to do that now, but AFAIK we don't have enough practice and could seriously maim him.

>>24115833
try to show him his basic flaws and ask if there are any other techniques he knows about Dextra Domini use other things may shed more light on this.(and tell us what to look out for)

>>24115833
talk about it with him how it should work and what goes wrong for him.

>>24115888
We haven't even taught him how to use it man.

>>24115833
May as well go over it with him, ask him a bit more about how Dextra does its detection, see if we can get some more info out of him now that he won't be suspicious of us for asking.

Then try to teach him how to get it working.

>>24115888
I want to know why he fails at this like >>24115893
said also >>24115891
gets us more info
plus >>24115914 we haven't even tried and failed

we don't know how to safely do operation estrotesties yet

>>24115914
Wait, what?
What are we here for again? I think I've missed something.

>>24115833
>>24115870
>>24115893

all of this
>>24115891
because this seams to only detect two kinds of demon, how would it get an part imp or what have you.

>>24115963
He needed help with his project. Now that we're sure we can stop him from noticing we're half-incubus with it, we're going to help him.

>>24115963
To tutor him.

>>24115833
Teach him, except for some small step that will prevent results. He should forgive us if he figures it out on his own/has it pointed out by someone else (because of mindwork) thinking that it was a simple mistake by him or us.

When the spell Almost works, a little praise is not a bad idea. Then we can correct it later after we practice how to make our disguise seamless.

>>24115984
Ah, right. So let's ask him where he goes wrong, and steer him gently away from it and towards another point of failure.

Rolled 89

>>24115657
could we have the +1 and +2 in the email field for thes

Now that you understand it, you get to work with Pierre, trying to identify where he's going wrong with the spell and showing him how to fix it.

Roll Soul to tutor Pierre. You get a +2 for Calm. I'll consider the first six linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 80

>>24116085

Rolled 73

>>24116085

Rolled 88

>>24116085

I am >>24115891 and i don't get what you are tiring to say I agree we want any info on other types of spells especially because not all demons should show up on that so they must have others.

I want to use the excuse that if he can point out other techniques that DD use we may be able to incorporate them as well.

>>24115984
We do need to give Sam an email later with the details of how to not show up in it.

Rolled 24

ONES AHOY

Rolled 100

>>24116085

Rolled 16

>>24116085

Rolled 39

>>24116085

>>24116094
>>24116096
>>24116103
>>24116117
5 successes
Holy fuck, we're a good tutor.

>>24116118
>>24116117
Just checking which one I am.

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>>24116094
>>24116096
>>24116103
>>24116117
Our luck has finally started to turn around.

>>24116085

the dice like Pierre. its official.

>>24116117
The fuck? It's like 100 throne today.

That's the third one if you count that 100 we missed by one post earlier.

>>24115833

Femcock, does exploring this new enchantment technique with Pierre actually train up OUR enchantment, because we're learning new things - even if our better score lets us understand it better?

>>24116153
If that was true they wouldn't have let us implant that enchantment in him.

They just like fucking with him.

>>24116094
>>24116096
>>24116103
>>24116117
OK, the dice love Max tonight, apparently.

Rolled 74

>>24116094
>>24116096
>>24116103
>>24116117

thatl do

>>24116178
I hope so, considering how many successes we got it would be a shame to get nothing out of it.

>>24115101
>Champagne
>for the past five years
Well, now we know a city we can drop the sun on if we have to. Probably better to be more subtle than that, though. Still, important information.

Rolled 2 + 900

priaise the RNG!

>>24116199
I'd say there's probably a very good reason why mages don't just go around dropping magical nukes on the cities of their enemies all the time.

I for one don't want to find out what that reason is.

>>24116178
No. Your Enchantment is so high that merely being good at teaching an entry-level aura-detection spell does nothing for your advancement.

>>24116185
maybe they like frenchey?

>>24116194
ok really like frenchey
>>24116220
but altering the mind drill to recover deleted memories?

>>24116094
>>24116096
>>24116103
>>24116117
It's almost trivially easy to show him where he's going wrong, and he corrects immediately. It takes not hours, but minutes for him to get a working version of the spell cast. He completely ignores the fact that he can't see your aura and, instead, marvels at his own, and recoils at the sight of the librarian's.

"Thank you so much!" he exclaims, giving you a big hug and eliciting a loud shush from the librarian. "Really, thank you. I would have failed this if it weren't for you, and you set me straight so easily. I'm glad you're my friend."

What now?

>>24116199
What? Why would you do that that would draw the archmagi and anyone else with ANY business wit there or France in general.

>>24116220
I assume we know the ins and outs of it now though.

Rolled 1 + 900

>>24116269
Grab him by the shoulder and say "I'm glad to be your friend too Pierre-kun."

>>24116269
Congratulate him on getting it right, say our goodbyes but tell him we have to put some finishing touches on our own work back the tower, then send a text for teleportation.

>>24116269
Oh god. This is almost making me feel guilty for what we're going to do to him.

But let's take a peekaboo at the librarian's aura. I wanna see the beast.

>>24116299
Oops, should probably clarify, do NOT say tower, say base or sanctum or something.

>>24116307

>Take 10 million boxes of soul and mind damage

>>24116269
Return the hug, let it linger just a bit.

>He completely ignores the fact that he can't see your aura
Uh, did our spell cover this? It seems like it should be beyond the scope of magic as subtle as it was described. Can we maybe roll soul to try and discern if he noticed and if so his intentions?

>>24116220
We can detect auras now too though, right? We should use this aura detection spell and shape one of our own.

>>24116094
>>24116096
>>24116103
>>24116117
Hopefully this also makes Pierre like us more.

>>24116269
Tell him we are glad he is our friend. and that we would like to study sorcery with him later. But now that he is good we need to go back home and work on our project. Remind him to make permanent foci for his spell.

>>24116307
no we can ask him about it later.

>>24116340
The WHOLE POINT of the spell was to prevent him seeing differences in our aura as anything unusual, we don't need to check.

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>>24116346
He probably sucks ass at alchemy just as bad if not worse than enchantment.

>>24116307
>Oh god. This is almost making me feel guilty for what we're going to do to him.
Yeah, honestly, feminizing him is a horrendously evil thing to do and I respect that people have their fetishes but it's completely cruel and excessive.

>>24116269
(very quietly) "you did great" (give him a kiss on the check ) "I really gotta go work on my project, ill see you in class tomorrow good night" (text for a non emergency port out)

>>24116269
Well, we've got his spell, how to counter it, and him blindly ignoring pretty much everything we do. I'd call this a pretty damn successful night. Give him a friendly goodbye, port home, fill everyone in on GREAT SUCCESS, including Dad on how that spell works, email Sam on it so he's ready for tomorrow, and plan out Liz's punishment.

>>24116269
I'm going to get all teary eyed. I haven't felt so bad since I've had to dump my kittens when I was young. They trusted me so eagerly...

Tell him to look at our aura and let him think. Just give him a damn chance to realize where he is and how he should just go away before he becomes too involved.

>>24116379
You only think it's evil because we haven't heard any of his fucked up views recently.

>>24116375
true but we can still tell him that plus he already made some over last week. so he has at least one box.

>>24116395
Wow. Just wow.

You really are a fucking retard.

>>24116391
When we asked Sam before about aura masking, he said he didn't really care if a loser like Pierre knew he was a demon, and he was focusing on protecting himself from real threats.

>>24116395

no you silly girl that will end up with us dead. After all it has to be this way. with him either serving us loyally or mindbroken and sissified.

>>24116395
>Tell him to look at our aura and let him think. Just give him a damn chance to realize where he is and how he should just go away before he becomes too involved.

...and winning first place in the utterly fucking stupid ideas award is this guy.

Even Snapple can't compete with something that fucking dumb.

Please don't take that as a challenge, Snapple.

>>24116379
>>24116395

this >>24116397 and >>24116433 have it right

>>24116397
Evil things don't become less evil just because the person you're doing it to is fucked up. Making his balls spit out estrogen is not in any way self defense, not even under the doctrine of pre-emptive strikes. We could just mind-rape him into a complete incapability to willingly hurt us, and it would be both easier and more effective for that purpose.

>>24116395
No. Letting him realize our nature now doesn't save him from the eventual hardship we plan to befall him, and actually does potentially harm us.

>>24116458
Are you the same sage guy who kept bitching and moaning about morality a couple dozen threads back and shitting them up?

I thought you said you were leaving forever.

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>>24116364
b-but but.. that was defiantly Snapple he had a trip and everything
notsureiftrollorSnapple.jpg

>>24116381
yea do this we can text him in a few hours what he saw when her looked at the librarian

>>24116397
good point

>>24116269
>you set me straight
Heh.

>>24116448
Oh please. I decided to put off bringing up the Matter Annihilation Crucible plan I had after the whole Blood Rat thing.

And this one was a good one. A very good one.

>>24116458
But the plan we have now is, supposedly,fa more subtle, and harder to trace back to us

>>24116426
Even so, it's better to have another layer of defense.

>>24116395
>>24116379
he wants to send us to HELL because thats were we belong.....lets help him get to heaven (our living alchemy lab)

>>24116485
>>24116381
yea do this we can text him in a few hours what he saw when her looked at the librarian
yea thats just about perfect.

>>24116307
Which is why I dont want to fucking do it. Hes a misguided idiot who honestly thinks he is doing good and that he joined the good guys in a den of villainy, not an intentional asshole.

Hell, Im sure if we told him about the way they crucified innocent non-demons, he would feel a lot more conflicted about Dextra, though he would probably try to wave it off like anyone does with something that so utterly shatters their worldview.

>>24116458
>mind raping
>not more evil than messing with his balls a bit

>>24116397
I have and see >>24116549 for my thoughts on it.

>>24116549
He knows about the crucifixion thing though.

>>24116458
look operation estrotesties may be evil, unless we use it to make him loyal without mind magic, that i say it is less evil. but the mind rape part of the plan is perfectly moral he is a known aggressor who unknowingly said he would kill us.

the stealth plan allows a minimum mind fuck to convert him. as well as making the other options easier therefor safer for him and us.

>>24116505
Please, Elaborate.
I am holding my breath

>>24116269
Say congrats and ask if he needs help.with anything else before we head back

>>24116505
now you have to tell us this may have a salvageable trace of use probably not

>>24116567
I couldnt remember if he did or not. Regardless, I said exactly how it went down. He has deluded himself into thinking he and Dextra are the Good Guys and therefore anyone they kill is a Bad Guy. It will be hard to break him of this mindset but I personally would find it more rewarding than breaking his mind or balls.

>>24116549
Any time I start to wonder if Pierre isn't so bad, I remind myself of something.

>Pierre would strangle Selene to death if given the chance.

>>24116505
Spill the beans.

Even if it's bad, I find pretty much all your plans entertaining.

>>24116621
Nah, you're just going to get us killed with a stupid idea like that.

Get over it, Max is not the person to give Pierre redemption.

>>24116521
It would be except we're already fucking changing his mind, so any enchanter can tell we've been there. We've even got it targeted at a specific person so they can tell who did it easily. At this point we've forfeited subtlety so there's no reason not to put in an injunction against harming us and calling it good.

>>24116552
Not Breakfast/Lunch-style mindraping, just get in there and change things a bit, like we already did just a few updates ago.

>>24116582
I never said mindrape wasn't justified.
>the stealth plan allows a minimum mind fuck to convert him
Minimum mindfuck is sticking "I will not hurt Max or her friends" in there.

>>24116625
That's fixable with enchantment. We don't need to fuck him up for things he would do if given the chance. Liz would, sure, but that doesn't make it right.

>>24116625

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Fucker's DEAD.

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>>24116625
HHHRRAAAUGGH

>>24116661
So you think brainwashing him into a person who's views are in line with our own is okay, and somehow different from other kinds of mindbreak?

We're still basically destroying the person he is to create one we want.

>>24116625
Not if he actually interacted with her and realized she wasnt a monster looking to destroy man. He has been forcefed propaganda all his life, how do expect him to react when faced with “The Enemy”?

Shit, you are no better, trying to turn him into a faceless monster by making shit up about him.
>>24116645
I wasnt the one who said to tell him about our dickdemonic nature, you know. That was fucking stupid.

>>24116661
Give it up, we're not throwing away all our hard work because you have a boner for playing the paladin in a setting where playing the paladin will get us killed.

>>24116661
>>24116705
Oh jesus, we've attracted the bleeding hearts to shit up the thread again, I see.

I thought the last few threads had been too free of bullshit arguments.

>>24116697
One is a minimum modification for our own safety by directly removing the source of danger. The other is gender-swapping him out of spite/lust.

>>24116739
Either way, we're still destroying him.

>>24116727

As a bleeding heart, I take that personally. I want Pierre to be a cute girl, too.

>>24116585
>>24116617
>>24116636

Basically I wanted to get a big cauldron and enchant it so that anything you throw into it gets converted into pure energy using sorcery + alchemy. It would be an alternate power source to the constant use of spirits. Mostly because I find using conjuration to power 99% of our shit annoying.

Stage 2 was to incorporate this into Max's body. Get a miniature version and replace her stomach with it. Using living alchemy we would have to radically alter our biology to allow the use of pure energy instead of relying on the chemical energy stored in food. We would need to dramatically restructure her physiology to withstand this, but it would give so much more power.

Instead of being powered by the chemical energy in food, Max would be eat rocks or sand or something to fuel a little magitech nuclear reactor.

This would stack with our self augments, pushing power levels through the roof.

>>24116713
I think you have a pretty shitty idea of what a paladin is. Effectively neutralizing a threat rather than genderswapping him isn't being a paladin, it's being non-retarded. And we haven't actually done shit towards the ball-morphing yet, just thought about it.

>>24116752
Keeping him from hurting us doesn't destroy him.

>>24116776
>Keeping him from hurting us doesn't destroy him.
You're changing who he is. That is basically destroying the person he was so you can make him into someone who's agreeable to your views.

Really it's not that different, but whatever you want to tell yourself I guess.

>>24116621
>>24116625
>>24116621
I want to redeem him. But i wont risk us or our daughter for his redemption. We are trying to tern him but are also preparing to break him. Hell breaking his balls may save his soul. Make him see the error of his ways by making him face his delusion.

>Minimum mindfuck is sticking "I will not hurt Max or her friends" in there.
possibly but if he doesn't change his mind with that more mind break is justified.

>>24116705
when we asked him he said murdering non human babes was AOK that wont stop him. He has said nothing to change that impression.

>>24116727
Nah, I was totally fine with what we did to Lunch, this just feels incredibly malicious and excessive and in no way retaliatory.

And the last few threads were filled with dumbass arguments about blood rats and other retarded shit.

>>24116770
...You want to convert matter to energy.

Do you have any idea how much energy is contained in a thimble of dirt?

Fuckloads, explosive fuckloads.

>>24116770
Thoroughly enjoyed, thank you Snapple.

>>24116567
hell he probable begged to help

>>24116625
rip out his spine and fuck him with it?

>>24116661
to likely to back fire/get caught.

>>24116739
to risky its all or nothing

>>24116752
better than what he wants for us.

>>24116547
yes to all of this but we can't name him dinner, how does

>>24116770
couldn't we just do this with a golum body and stick a copay of our mind in ?

>>24116776
you seam to be the only person auguring for this course of action.

>>24116776
>Effectively neutralizing a threat rather than genderswapping him isn't being a paladin, it's being non-retarded.

Dane suggested the genderswapping, and I trust Dane to give good suggestions more than you.

>>24116770
Not to be a stick in the mud, but couldn't we just use sorcery to draw in ambient kinetic and electromagnetic energy (like the collar for example) to feed Max? Or just amplify her draining ability so ambient emotions or whatever count as food?

>>24116770
I've never seen so happy to see one of your terrible ideas to draw my mind away from shitty arguments.

Thanks Snapple.

So what do you guys actually do?

>>24116802
>We are trying to tern him but are also preparing to break him.
This is what I supported from the start. I always said the balltrap should be a last resort, but I never ruled it out outright. Im just kinda put off by how eager people are to skip right to it.
>Hell breaking his balls may save his soul. Make him see the error of his ways by making him face his delusion.
Im kind of offended at the suggestion that turning Pierre into a tranny will magically make him into a great person. It reeks of the whole feminazi MAN IS THE SATAN routine.

>>24116770
the first paragraph is dangerous and difficult but theoretically a good idea. Maybe even good form a practical perspective. On that question we should consult Hera she will get a kick out of it.

the rest is about a 1.3 on the heart of power scale.

>>24116770
Actually stage one of that seems reasonably feasible. I don't see much point in using a generator which consumes fuel over one based on a spirit ecology that doesn't, though.

Stage two is way beyond what's even remotely feasible, and we can probably get similar effects way more efficiently by bolstering our digestive system through meditation. Or just decreasing our need for food.

>>24116854
Matter Annihilation Crucible

>>24116854

Give him a little bit of praise, then leave. Take a little pride in how good of a teacher we've been recently.

>>24116854
Congratulate Pierre, say our goodbyes and tell him we need to go home and work on our own project some more, then send dad a text to teleport us back.

>>24116854
Congratulate him, and gtfo, apologize to the librarian for pierre's loud mouth.

>>24116854
(very quietly) "you did great" (give him a kiss on the check ) "I really gotta go work on my project, ill see you in class tomorrow good night" (text for a non emergency port out) text him in a few hours what he saw when her looked at the librarian

>>24116815
I think that's the point....
Now, i know it's a stupid idea, but how could we use that to directly eliminate fatigue?

>>24116866
We will never get the same levels of energy from food, even through augmented digestion.

The augment lowers our requirement. It doesn't suddenly make food more powerful.

>>24116854
>>24116883
apologize to the librarian for pierre's loud mouth.
do this

>>24116883
Wow, no, that's wayy too much deredere.

>>24116854
say our goodbyes, port out, and begin making a bed and an outfit for lunch, have Liz help, her having to wait for her lesson is a good idea.

>>24116770
Part one? Actually kind of interesting.

Part two is Heart of Power stupid.
>>24116875
Shut up, Snapple.

>>24116796
in this setting souls are real and define who you are for the purposes of this game you are objectively wrong.
IRL that is an open question and you have the safest operating assumptions.

>>24116854
Congratulate him then ask if there were any improvements he'd hoped to implement. It might give us an idea of how more advanced Dextra demon detection methods work.

>>24116916

its perfect, we are wrapping him around our finger with little effort that he'll be able to drop out and never become a threat.

>>24116910
I support this plan

>>24116952
I think that's playing it too hard.