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How does this work?

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>using fatal rules

>>24153803
Post their stats.

I'm >>24152865, this ought to be amusing.

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>>24153827
On one side we have a guy in a suit of full plate mail, holding a 6-foot 15-pound zweihander. His name is Helmin Waad.

On the other side we have a guy in a suit of full plate mail, holding a 2-foot 4-pound iron mace and a hefty wooden kite shield. His name is Laurence Houby.


I'll post their stats in a minute.

>>24153861
Oh, why yes sir! Right away sir!

>implying I'm curious about their anal circumference

>>24153921
My money's on Houby. Waad is going to take three steps and trip and fall on his sword.

>>24153992
and stab himself in the xiphoid process

>Using a d20 for damage

This fucking game keeps delivering

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Warning: These are their FULL stats:

Helmin Waad -- http://paste2.org/eEPMPGt9

Laurence Houby -- http://paste2.org/KH4a459U

Now listen up! The only relevant stats you need to worry about are in the sections labeled ----ATTACK---- and ----DEFENSE----.


That means the following links hold the important information for the purposes of this duel:

Helmin Waad short -- http://paste2.org/NOZdCxAX

Laurence Houby short -- http://paste2.org/wH2c6vIB

I already did all the mathematical bullcrap so you don't have to! Now I'll tell you the mechanics.

>>24154059
W-will they h-have sex with each other, OP?

>>24154059

Don't care about the mechanics - swing the zweihander at the bastard's knees, then stamp on him when he's down.

>>24154059
You fucking deliver.

>Manhood Length: 5.1925 Manhood Circumference: 3.79572
>Anal Circumference Potential: 3 Nipple Length: 0.25
>Areola Diameter: 1 Areola Hue: Difficult to identify
>Tongue Size: 2.5 Sexuality: Heterosexual
>Debauchery: 80

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>>24154059
Aw gosh darnit I made a mistake! Okay, easy to fix.

Errata: Laurence Houby's to-hit chance with his mace should be 3d10 + 7, not 3d10 + 8
[( 8 + 8 + 6) /3 ] = 22/3 = 7

..Huh. I thought the mistake would be more dire than that.

>>24154163
>He thinks FATAL, the most realistic and well-researched RPG in the history of mankind, represents real life accurately
You don't exactly get to pick what you swing at in FATAL. They give one example of a called shot, but are you sure you want to do this? Are you absolutely sure you want to mess with that business?

>>24154111
You know how dwarves make more dwarves? The male grasps his hammer and pounds on the rigid hardness of his mate until the sparks fly and a new dwarf appears from the residue? It'll be like that only without the dwarves.

>>24154273

...No, I guess not. Looks like it's going to be a D&D-like combat without full attacks or daily powers to speed it up.

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Let me explain how this works.

In FATAL, skills are checked against 3d10, plus modifiers. You compare that to a THreshold. In combat this TH is called Current Armor, or CA. It is almost exactly like Armor Class from D&D. If your 3d10 roll plus modifiers EQUALS or EXCEEDS the CA of the target on the location you hit, you hit!

But take note: if your roll fails because of the CA bonus your target gets for wearing armor, your blow hit and damaged his armor. This is going to happen a lot in this fight, I think.

But you don't just roll 3d10 and have fun. Oh no.
In FATAL, each round represents 3 seconds. Each of our fighters gets one attack per round.
At the start of each round, we roll Initiative. This is a d100 roll modified by a number. Helmin rolls 1d100 - 60. Yes, minus sixty. Laurence rolls 1d100 - 27.

We can cancel out those mods so that Helmin rolls 1d100 - 33 and Laurence rolls a straight 1d100.

After initiative, a fighter can launch an attack. Before you decide WHAT or HOW you attack, you determine WHERE your attack will land. To do that you roll 1d100 on the BPP chart and see what you get. Both our fighters are humans, so we use the human chart.

After that, you roll 3d10, add your modifiers, and hope it's equal to or above the CA on that target.

Any natural roll of 6 or less is a FUMBLE.
Any natural roll of 25 or more, that also beats the target's CA by 3 or more, causes GRAPHIC GORE. (That means we roll on the wound table, kiddies!)
Any natural roll of 30 is an AUTOMATIC HIT.

Got it? Good.

>>24154368
What we could do is houserule it with the BPP percentage as a to-hit modifier...I'll think about it.

>>24154368
>speed it up

You're not familiar with FATAL are you?

When I said that the knight is most likely to take three steps forward, trip and impale himself, that's an actual risk.

So apparently there's some manner of character-generator out there.

Is this true? Because I'd be interested in making a FATAL character for shits 'n giggles without having to figure trigonometry

>>24154496
> Helmin rolls 1d100 - 60. Yes, minus sixty. Laurence rolls 1d100 - 27.

>We can cancel out those mods so that Helmin rolls 1d100 - 33 and Laurence rolls a straight 1d100.

Depending on how the game handles ties those might not be equivalent.

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>>24154496
There's one more thing I messed up on. The damage for the weapons. I forgot to account for the fulcrum points of the weapons.

Adjust the damage for the weapons as follows:

Damage Hacking Zweihander: 4d12 * 1.30 (Strength) * 0.72 (Fulcrum point 22)
Damage against Plate Mail or Wood Kite Shield: 4d12 * 1.30 (Strength) * 0.72 (Fulcrum point 22) * 0.40 [-60%]

In other words, Zweihander Hacking damage is 4d12 * 0.3744, giving a range between 1 and 17 damage.

Damage Pounding Mace: [1d20 +3] * 1.14 (Strength) * 0.90 (Fulcrum point 10)
Damage against Plate Mail: [1d20 +3] * 1.14 (Strength) * 0.90 (Fulcrum point 10) * 0.30 [-70%]

In other words again, Mace Pounding damage is [1d20+3] * 0.3078 , giving a range between 1 and 7 damage.

>>24154637
You don't have to do trig, just algebra. I think the character generator is on /rs/. If not I'll put it up there. Be warned that it doesn't COMPLETELY make the character, it's for an older version of FATAL (believe it or not), and the program will cuss at and insult you in text if you push the wrong keys.

>>24154663
You are right, but it is more convenient than repeatedly subtracting heavy numbers *every single round*. I don't remember what happens in the event of a tie, but it's only a one-in-a-hundred chance anyway, yeah?

>>24154748
One in ten thousand, actually.

>>24154748
Wait, fucking FULCRUM POINTS? Oh god.

>>24154795
NOW YOU SEE

>>24154795
It's the perfect system that accounts for everything.
Everything.


Every goddamn thing.


You stare into the void long enough, the void stares back.

>>24154824
>the void stares back.
the void does a hell of a lot more than just stare back

it roles for anal circumference

>>24154824
>You stare into the void long enough, the void wants you to roll for anal circumference.
fix'd

>>24154748
>only a one-in-a-hundred chance

Well I was assuming that you couldn't go below 1. If thats the case, than in the original version the chances of a tie are considerably higher (anytime helmin gets <61 and Laurence gets <28). That's the where the major difference is.

Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if FATAL uses negatives, in which case they are equivalent, I believe.

>>24154824
How are the air pressure simulations? Humidity, sunlight, ecology, and dew point for the nature types?

>>24154824

I am quite amazed at how thurough but AWFULLY FUCKING UNREPRESENTATIVE everything is

>>24154789

I think it's 67 in ten thousand chance, since both sides could roll a modified 1, 2, 3 ... 66 or 67.

>>24154795
The folks that wrote this game but were actually a set of sentient supercomputers writing pen and paper games in their spare time to practice their linguistic skills.

>>24154909

It's the first edition of the TIME CUBE rpg, isn't it?

>>24154862
You're joking, but you don't even know.

You don't even fucking know.
You do not even fucking know how long that table is.

>>24154748

Best part about the fumble table?

You can fumble so hard that the Gods smite you dead.

This happened to an enemy that time we convinced our DM to run FATAL.

>>24154909
*weren't actually human but were
>Proofread carefully to make sure you don't out a word

>>24154868
That's why I'm still convinced FATAL is a deliberate troll game. You have all this extraordinarily detailed shit, the framework for which clearly would take a LONG-ASS TIME to work out, and then when somebody actually goes over the math they find out that the framework leads to stupid shit like a weaker character having LESS penalty to their weapon skills than a stronger but still too weak to wield the weapon character. It HAD to have been planned.

>>24154945
>Convinced to run FATAL
You mean threaten with a knife and gun right?

>>24154909

This explains why their ideas on human sexuality are so bizarre.

>>24154973
I wanted to run FATAL for an April Fool's Day session but that would mean cutting through the thick, overgrown wilderness that is the FATAL corebook.

>>24154976

He bragged he'd run anything at least once. We gave him FATAL. It was honestly a great night, just laughing for hours about how awful the system was.

>>24154843
>>24154845
>anal circumferencemind

I'm sticking around to see this trainwreck happen. Godspeed, OP.

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I need to go get some food, I'll be back in a couple minutes.

Also, I forgot three things. Two I can tell you about right now, the third I'll get to later.

1) To hit rolls. I forgot to consider the fighters' skills. Add +8 to each of their to hit rolls, thanks to their Weapon (General) skills being 8. This means Helmid Waad has 3d10+16, and Laurence Houby has 3d10+15.

2) Penetration values for weapons. Talk about a horrible rule. I was up til 3 am yesterday trying to figure out how it worked. Rather, I was trying to confirm it works the way it seems it should. Look here >>24153921 . See the Penetration line in the weapon statistics block? You basically subtract that from your to hit roll when attacking that level of armor. That means:

Helmin Waad's to hit against Laurence Houby is 3d10+16-10 = 3d10+6.
Laurence Houby's to hit against Helmin Waad is 3d10+15-15 = 3d10.

This basically means they're going to be incompetent and have to batter down each others' armor before they can even hurt each other, unless they get lucky with their attack rolls. I'm leaving this decision up to you guys: if we COMPLETELY IGNORE the penetration rules, the battle will be bloodier and swifter! If we include them, the battle will consist of hammering each others' armor until it's literally falling off.

I prefer the first option, but hey, it's your guys' call.

In the meantime, want to find out how I found the necessary Strength and fulcrum point for Helmin Waad? Sure you do. Here you go.

>>24153921
Zweihander weigh 15 pounds and are six feet long? How is this when a langschwert weighs like 7 pounds and has a five foot blade or so?

>>24155141
>ignoring rules

No. It's a set of rules which are horrible and playing it is supposed to FEEL horrible.

>>24155161
Because FATAL.

>>24155141
>penetration rules
>combat is now men beating each other with sharp metal sticks until their armor falls off
>welcome to FATAL

>>24155141
I'm in agreement with
>>24155203

>>24155203
Yeah gonna agree with this. It's got to be terrible. That's basically the point.

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>>24154795
Want to see how I found the proper Strength and fulcrum for the zweihander? Of course you do. Here you go.

>>24155161
Yeah. FATAL is of course extensively researched.

Have some anti-rage. Good article on two-handed swords, by John Clements. http://www.thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html

>>24155203

Seconded. The funnest part of FATAL is watching the rules fall apart.

Especially when you're solving the quadratic equation to see if people enjoyed having sex.

>>24155283
Awesome link, thanks.

>>24155141

We use all the rules or none of the rules.

This is a motherfucking FATAL fecht thread and we're doing this right.

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>>24155288
>>24155258
>>24155241
>>24155234
>>24155203
/tg/ has spoken. You guys are the boss! We go with it.

There are other mechanics for losing life points as so on which I will include as soon as they become available.

I'd like to try one practice swing for each fighter so we all understand how this works. First, Sir Helmin will take a swing a peasant unwisely standing next to the knight. The peasant is naked because that's how peasant men are in the southern Queendoms. Ready to take a swing and see how badly a big sword screws up the human body?

Roll 1d100 for the Body Part we'd hit, then roll 3d10+16 to see where the blow lands. (Nakedness counts as light armor, and there's no penalty to hit for zweihanders for that.)

Rolled 53

>>24155520
d100

Rolled 23

>>24155520

Hey batter, swing!

Rolled 6, 3, 4 + 16 = 29

>>24155520
3d10+16

>>24155579
A 53 hits the average man in the upper torso.
>>24155625
That's an easy hit. An average human has a natural CA of 10.

We assumed this was a Hacking attack, so, now you get to roll for damage!

The Zweihander deals 4d12 * 1.30 (Strength) * 0.72 (fulcrum point) to the man's naked body.

Roll us 4d12.

Rolled 10, 5, 9, 10 = 34

>>24155719

Damage!

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>>24155742
34 * 1.30 * 0.72 = 31 damage!

We almost always truncate fractions in our final results in FATAL.

When you deal damage to a person, you deal damage in 2 ways. The amount of damage you roll is subtracted from the other guy's Life Points. It's his hit points basically.

But you also subtract an equal number of Body Part Points from the part you hit. You get BPP for each individual body part by running a calculation. An average human has 20 Life Points, but his Upper Torso only has (20 LP * 3 * 0.29 proportion of upper torso to the rest of the body) = 17 Body Part Points.

When a body part's BPP is reduced to zero, that part is rendered FOREVER USELESS. (Book's own words.) Drop a guy's groin to zero? No more children for him. Drop a guy's arm to zero? No more arm. Drop their Upper Torso, Lower Torso, or Head/Face to zero? They're in the dead book now.

If you dealt only 17 damage, the man would lose his Upper Torso and be slain. The same happens if you destroy a person's Lower Torso or Head/Face.

If you dealt MORE than enough damage to destroy a part, it is severed.

So you just cut this man in half. I hope you're proud of yourself.

Next is Laurence Houby's turn. Same deal, hit a regular guy.

Roll me a d100, 3d10+15, and a 1d20! In that order!

>>24155719
Seems a lot easier when put into text

If you were good at A* level maths in secondary school, this wouldnt be hard at all.

Rolled 43

>>24155880

Rolled 77

>>24155880

>>24155885
Yeah. I'd say most of the work is getting all the stats together in the first place. I of course did most of that already.

Rolled 1, 8, 6 + 15 = 30

>>24155880

Rolled 17

>>24155926
Id bet it was harder than actually studying for a final maths exam.

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>>24155960
You're too kind.

>>24155911
A 43 would hit the lower torso, as seen in pic...
>>24155918
But that would have hit the left hand!

>>24155935
Natural 15, so no special effects, but the end result is much higher than 30. Easy hit.

>>24155960
17 + 3 = 20 damage.
20 * 1.14 (Strength) * 0.90 (fulcrum) = 20 damage.

Lower Torso BPP = (20 LP * 3 * 0.19 proportion) = 11
11 - 20 = FOREVER USELESS

Normally you can't deal more damage than the body part can take. It's just like GURPS in that regard. But since you die if your torso or head is rendered FOREVER USELESS, it doesn't matter in this case.

It WOULD have mattered if you hit the guy's left hand instead. Then he would have lost (20 * 3 * 0.01) = 1 LP and would have no longer had a hand. He would have had 19/20 LP remaining though.

Got a feel for the damage and to-hit calculations?

We're going to get this party started then.

>>24154868
He didn't say that FATAL represented them well. Just that it represented them.

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>>24154909
>supercomputers wrote this game
No, just a Huskie and his friends.

>>24156193

>taught Statistics

No. Fucking impossible.

Also, how would you like to be credited in a book forever for the distinction of coming up with the word mouth-cunt and for "graphic gore"?

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ARE YOU READY, /tg/ !?

ARE, YOU, READY?

LET'S GET READY FOR FATAAAAAAL

>>24156522
LETS GO

>>24156522

AWWWWWWWW YISS

>>24156522

I guess?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXZ2bTigdGY

The perfect song for a FATAL battle.

(Or a Rifts battle if you have a particular Gore inclined dm)

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Two Duchesses of the Southern Queendoms vie for control of the town of Goldenwurst. To decide the matter, they sent their most favored knight to battle in a duel to the death in the fields outside the town. The winner shall claim Goldenwurst for his Duchess.

From the west comes Helmin Waad. His sword is large. His armor is tough. His strikes are sure.

From the east enters Laurence Houby. He is a fortress of wood and metal. His mace humbles the land.

These two men entered the field, but only one would leave.

>>24156780

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLlbVW-VA0

This is the ACTUAL FATAL THEME SONG, as put out by Fatal Games. And it is so, so appropriate in every way.

>>24156785
What next?

>>24156193
>Burnout

Isn't he that one ultra aggressive twat from the review rebuttal?

>>24156785
inb4 maced anuses

>>24156841
Holy shit and here I was putting some Genocyber to play.

I feel enlighted.

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>>24156848
Well, we'll say the men are within combat range. So, first is initiative.

Remember, we roll initiative at the start of each round.
Waad rolls 1d100 - 60.
Houby rolls 1d100 - 27.

Whoever gets the higher initiative gets to launch their attack first.

Get a d100 going for both fighters /tg/! Say who you're rolling for! Pick your favorite and root for him!

>>24156850

I believe so. How the fuck could anyone actually play test this and not see how utterly broken it is?

>>24156884

>BODY PARTS BODY PARTS GETTING ME ERECT

The developers were nothing if not predictable.

Rolled 11

>>24156946
ROLLING FOR MY BOY HOUBY

>>24157020
GETTING MY BOY HOUBY KILLED

Rolled 35 + 27

>>24156946

I roll for mr. mace.

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>>24157042
/tg's RNG doesn't subtract numbers.

>>24156967
>BODY PARTS BODY PARTS GETTING ME ERECT
hahaha

Rolled 89

>>24157020
Or how about for the other poor soul since someone else did Houby

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>>24157077
>>24157020
Haah
Waad gets initiative, easily.

Waad gets to attack first! He needs to roll 1d100 to pick a place to hit, and then 3d10+6 to attack!

Or you could pick a place and do a Called Shot to it but then you're just a dick. I'm still muling over a house rule to make Called Shots somewhat workable.

Rolled 21 - 27

>>24157075

I think I found out a way that worked, but now I can't remember...

>>24157077

Looks like Waad is going to be the one awkwardly swinging his sword first.

Rolled 78

>>24157142

BODY PARTS TIME

>>24157160
Everyone refer to this picture for Body Parts (Body Parts Getting You Erect) >>24154496

A 78 means your blow will be aimed towards his right hand -- his weapon hand! His shield isn't in the way.

Roll Waad a 3d10+6!

Rolled 9, 3, 10 + 6 = 28

>>24157191

Rolled 5, 3, 6 + 6 = 20

>>24157191

Luke, I am your body parts

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>>24157207
>22+6 = 28
A 28, huh?

As it happens, his CAH on his hand is...

12 + 15 Clamshell Gauntlets + 1 Armor General = 28

The first hit of the combat actually got through! I can scarcely believe it.

I assume it was a hacking attack. (Remember, Waad can STAB with the zweihander, too!

Roll 4d12!
Multiplier is 0.3744 (considering Strength, Fulcrum, and Plate resistance) >>24154748

Rolled 7, 10, 1, 10 = 28

>>24157281

Oh god here comes the pointlessly obtuse math!

Rolled 4, 6, 2, 1 = 13

>>24157281
Is there even any reason to try to stab?
Stabbing with something as tall as you are seems not smart.

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>>24157314
>Is there even any reason to try to stab?
Well, there'd be a couple reasons.

First, the Kite Shield and Platemail Suit that Houby has reduces Hacking damage by 60%, and Pounding damage by 70%. However, it only reduces Stabbing damage by 20%!

Second, running can help give you a bonus to Stabbing damage. See the pic.

>>24157298
28 * 0.3744 = 10 damage.

Waad has 23 Life Points, and Houby has 20. Or should I say, HAD 20.

A roll of 78 means Waad hacked at Houby's right hand. Houby's hand has (20 * 3 * 0.01) = 1 BPP.

1 BPP - 10 damage = FOREVER USELESS.
How will Houby fap now?!

Houby LP: 20 - 1 = 19.

Looks like we've got some stuff to do!

>>24157455
What now?

Rolled 67

>>24157514
I guess we start rolling for the poor fuck who just got his weapon hand hacked off.

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>tfw you confuse Gonorrhea with Gangrene
>>24157455
First, the chances of Houby contracting gangrene.
He was struck by a hacking weapon, so there's a chance of him contracting the disease equal to (BPP lost / BPP maximum) * 100%.
That's (1/1) * 100%

Houby has a 100% chance of contracting gangrene from getting his hand severed. Sucks to be him!

Second, let's check for Smiting, in that last picture. The Zweihander is a Large Hacking weapon. It dealt 5% of Houby's LP to him last round (1 of 20 is 5%), so the chances of Houby being smitten are:

5% * 0.5 = 2.5%. We truncate fractions, so that's a base TH of 2.
100 - 2 = TH 98.

Roll a d100! On a 99 or 100, Houby is smitten down, to the ground.

Rolled 87

>>24157564
Then again. What is he even doing? I guess trying to knock him down bodilly with the shield? I have no idea. I don't thing swinging his bloody stump around is going to do much.

Rolled 74

>>24157605
Thats why i asked

>>24157584
rolled

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>>24157584
>First, the chances of Houby contracting gangrene.

THIS FUCKING GAME

>>24157584
>no mention of magical STDs

>>24157618

I am also confused how if a limb is chopped off, there is a 100% chance of getting gangrene. This guy make have taken statistics, but he definitely did not take medicine.

You know, its admirable how thorough some of this was thought out.

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>>24157564
We can consider that as the d100 for Smiting. Houby remains on his feet, but his right hand and his mace falls to the ground beside him.
>>24157605
>>24157618
Either of those work too.

So, Houby just got his hand cut off. I'd say he can drop his shield, reach down and pick up his mace with his left hand in just one round.

Alternatively, you can try Brawling or Wrestling with your off-hand, but keep in mind Plate Armor is a *little* stronger than your fists.

>>24157651
I was confused by it too, but that's what the Infection part says.

>>24157699
Can Houby shield-bash?

>>24157718
I'm looking all over for any shield bashing rules. I don't think they're in FATAL.

>>24157745
I thought someone said it had something for everything

>>24157699
Pick up mace, and hope our armor holds.

>>24157771
Whoever that someone was, it wasn't me.

>>24157776
Any objections to this?! Your actions will decide Houby's fate!

>>24157809
well, are there any rules for jamming the mace into the stub where our hand used to be?

>>24154748
>>24154748
>Cuss at and Insult you


Please tell me this is literal. Please say this would actually happen.

>>24157817
It will probably give me mega gangrene. Just pick up the mace

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>>24157817
>>24157830
Sadly, no.
It may be one of the Random Magical Effects but nothing you can do about it right now!

By the way, for losing a hand, Houby takes the following penalties.
-5% Bodily Attractiveness
-10% Strength (To only that arm? I think to only that arm)
-90% Hand-Eye Coordination (yeah, to that arm)
>>24157828
I'll prove it to you in a minute.

>>24157869
man, that 10% hand eye coordination is sure going to stop me using my non existant hand

>>24157776
Second!

>>24154945
>>24154945
>>24154945
Thats actually pretty funny.

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Alright. I can't find any rules for using your off-hand, like penalties to hit. I'm sure I need to just look harder.

Start of a new round!

Roll initiative for both parties! Because the book is confusing about whether or not Breadth still matters, I will say it does. And until I find off-hand rules, we'll assume everything's the same with Houby.

Tl;dr Roll 1d100 - 60 for Waad and 1d100 - 27 for Houby!

>>24158038
Im not sure why there isnt a minus for dice rolling here

Rolled 2

>>24158038
Let's turn this around Houby!

Rolled 26

>>24158038
LETS ROLL FOR MR NO MORE FAP

Rolled 48

>>24158074
whoops

>>24158085
>Rolled 2
... oh, Houby ...

>>24158074
>>24158091
Roll for Waad!

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>>24158085

Rolled 23 - 27

>>24158074

It's annoying you can't do "roll - X".

My Immortal, Chapter 4.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=bL1ONR9e5eI

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>>24158145
I'm counting that for Waad.

Waad = 23 - 60
Houby = 2 - 27

The areas on Initiative say nother about what to do here, so I assume Waad rolled LOWER than Houby!

Houby goes first!

Is Houby going to attack with his mace, or do something else?

By the way, both Waad and Houby have been lightly encumbered this whole time.

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>>24158145
yeah, it cant even be that hard to put in

>>24158244
Throw his mace, lets see how that works

>>24158244
Attack with his mace, he must avenge his fallen hand!

>>24158244
Bash him with our mace. I'll leave the rolling to someone else this time...

>>24158244
I think the only thing Houby can do is attack with his mace, using his off-hand.

Ironically, his off-hand is the only hand of his which is still on.

Does Houby have other options?
Break sword with mace, kick dirt in face, pray for a cure, summon a lemure?

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winner fucks loser, right?

>>24158354

You know what they say about BODY PARTS BODY PARTS, don't you? And now we have a severed hand.

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>>24158286
>>24158305
>>24158317
>>24158346
I think so. I can't find any penalties for using your off-hand, but hey, maybe Houby was Ambidextrous all along? Only now must he reveal his true power!

>>24158346
>Break sword with mace,
You can dry a Disarm but you're unskilled in it. Let me get you your stats for it.
> kick dirt in face,
Good luck kicking up dirt into a guy's face while you're both standing and wearing full plate armor with enclosing helmets
>pray for a cure
Houby's Piety Points are 11 of 100. He really isn't into the whole gods thing.
>summon a lemure
He has no experience in spellcasting.
>>24158380
>>24158354
Necrophilia IS a thing, you know.
By the way, I'll post each person's mental disorders next.

If you wish to attack, roll 1d100 for location then 3d10 to hit.
I'll get stats for a Disarm now in case you guys want to do that instead.

>>24158354
according to the sheets, Houby's Anal Circumference Potential can easily accomidate Waad's Manhood Circumference without tearing. However, Houby's dick would destroy Waad's anus with its girth.

Rolled 78

>>24158439
Im more thinking enraged mace swing myself, if everyone else is cool with that. SWING AWAY ARMLESS MAN

Rolled 5, 10, 8 = 23

>>24158439

One, you're a horrible but brave man, OP. I can't even get through character creation.

Two,
>our beloved John Galt is delivering on his promise to recreate the RPG The Riddle of Steel but make it better
What's this then?

Rolled 5, 5, 3 = 13

>>24158439
>3d10
To hit

Rolled 6, 7, 7 = 20

>>24158476
Rolly roll roll

>>24154223
> 3.79572
Somebody please tell me that this level of precision isn't part of the real rules.
Please tell me it is.

>>24158483

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/24111246/

Do you know the story of the Riddle of Steel and our One Galt?

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>>24158439
Oh yeah, you guys can totally do this Disarm thing. Disarm, dishand? Haha! Ha! Ha.
Ha.

Ha.


First you'd roll 3d10+15 (no -15 because you're not penetrating armor)

>>24158483
Current thread up right now! Go read!
>>24123669

Thread from yesterday. Go read!
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/24111246/

Riddle of Steel is coming back and we have hopes it will be better than ever!

>>24158511
1) Although you're told to truncate fractional values in most cases, this doesn't seem to be the case with the game's COMPLETELY OPTIONAL and UNREQUIRED sexual characteristics.

2) Those numbers were spewed by the FATAL Character Generator program, not by my hand. So the game's own character generator came up with that.

>>24158551
So after that 3d10+15 to see if you passed (against a TH of...I don't know, 25? 25 sounds good), you'd roll 3d10+([14+12]/2) = 3d10+13, and then compare all that other business.


OR

I can use the attack roll you guys did already.
>>24158466
To Waad's OWN right hand! Wow! What are the chances?
>>24158482
With a good to-hit roll...but not good enough to hurt him. Good enough to bash that gauntlet.


I'll let you guys decide now. Attempt a Disarm or go with the attack you already rolled?

>>24158608

Disarm.

MORE POINTLESS COMPLEXITY.

Rolled 2, 5, 4 = 11

>>24158646
I was going to say just whack him, but the man brings up a point - we are playing fatal, complexity is the name of the game, and we shall play it.

Rolled 2, 3, 7 = 12

>>24158646
I think bashing his armor to pieces would be more complex than disarming honestly.

>>24158646
Agree 100%.

>>24158682
Forgot to take the dice+3d10 off whoops. At any rate, just attack.

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>>24158551
>Consider the length in inches of the foe's weapon that is exposed beyond their fulcrum point
Alright. The Zweihander is 72" long. The fulcrum can be from 5-30, but is at 22. 72" - 22" = 50" of blade and cross-guard.
>Divide this by the foe's fist circumference and multiply this quotient by 2
Alright, fist circumference is...oh, I already posted that here.>>24157699
Fist circumference is equal to the length of the character's foot in inches. Helmin Waad's Foot Size is 9" (check his posted stats if you don't believe me, ctrl+F "foot"), so his fist circumference is 9".

>50" / 9" = 5.555556
>5.55556 x 2 = 11.11111
Truncate this to 11. This is a modifier for Houby. I assume this is positive? A bonus?
>Disarmer has initiative over foe
>modifier "-"
This is true. Houby has initiative over Waad right now. But uh, that's some modifier, huh? Just a negative sign. Don't know what that means.
>+1 for each inch of the weapon of the foe that is perpendicular to its handle
Perpendicular to its handle? Only the cross-guard counts for that, but I don't know how long that is, so I say it counts as zero.

>>24158682
It really isn't. The above attack hit his armor but didn't penetrade. You'd just roll 1d20+3 * modifier and subtract that from the Clamshell Gauntlet's Integrity Points (IP) of 15; see >>24153921
Since the maximum damage you could deal to his plate armor is 7, and the lowest is 1, well. Not as complicated as this disarm. But this too is easy, just finding stuff numbers and doing arithmetic.

So then, putting this all together, we get...

>>24158886

WORST. SEX GAME. EVER.

It could be as stimulating as all get-out, but if I have to know Trigonometry to jerk off...I can't, because I'd need at least all of my fingers for that kind of counting.

>>24158541
>>24158551
This is fantastic

Between this news and this thread this is the best time I've had on /tg/ in at least a year. Emprah bless you, OP.

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>>24158886
>So then, putting this all together, we get...

Servitor skull, are you taking notes on this?

I'll want a play-back later.

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>>24158886
Houby must roll 3d10+15 against his foe's unarmored CA of 11.

Clamshell Gauntlets don't say they do anything to hold your weapon in place, and there's no reason why you'd consider their CA for a disarm attempt, so Houby must roll 3d10+15 against his foe's unarmored CA of 11. Remember that any natural roll of 6 or less is a failure.

If that succeeds, then we Houby rolls 3d10 + 13 average of Hand-Eye and Agility modifiers + 11 modifier for disarmer, again assuming it's positive + 0 SP invested in Disarm skill.

Grand total of 3d10 + 24.

That the example tables go up to 24 makes me thing the +11 is indeed positive.

>>24158963
>Trigonometry
Man, if you can't tell the difference between algebra and trigonometry I'm not sure you've earned the right to jerk off.

Rolled 9, 10, 6 = 25

>>24159008

Rolled 7, 3, 9 = 19

>>24159031
25+24 = 49

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>>24159026

>having to pass math questions every time I want to jerk off

Rolled 6, 6, 7 + 24 = 43

>>24159008

Testing dice stuffs.

>>24159026

Dude, people out there can't even do basic math, and they're allowed to breed. I'm pretty sure I've "earned that right"

>>24159031
Aww snap n'wah. That's a success. Sadly you don't get Graphic Gore for a disarm.

>>24159046
THAT is the one that gets +24.
19+24. = 43

>The weapon is dislodged from the grasp of the foe, and the foe is damaged
The foe is damaged? What? How much are they damaged by? What the heck game, way to not tell me how bad they're hurt.

>>24159092
Please tell me we removed his hand as well. Please.

>>24159084

...That's why pandas don't mate properly in captivity! They don't have access to the free-roaming Chinese math problems they need to solve to earn the right to breed!

>>24159092
Yay!

>The foe is damaged? What? How much are they damaged by? What the heck game, way to not tell me how bad they're hurt.
Goddamnit, FATAL.

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>>24159142
Sadly, if you rolled a 49 or greater, that'd be the case. Unfortunately you did not. So, hm. I'm not sure how much we should damage the opponent by. It just says "the opponent is damaged." That's not very helpful.

I'm thinking we should just apply mace damage to Waad's hand...
But since the FIRST roll, the roll to hit, WAS a 25...


Think we should roll on the Graphic Gore table against Waad?


>>24159084
While we're on the subject.

>>24159210
Fuck this fuckwaad, GRAPHIC GORRRREEE!

>>24159210
So if we can apply the damage to his hand wont we dehand him anyway?

>>24159210
I'd like to see the Graphic Gore rules, but I bet there will be a more legit opportunity before the end of this combat.

Rolled 60

>>24154059
>http://paste2.org/eEPMPGt9
wait areola hue is a stat?

>>24159346
this is FATAL, how could it not be?

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>>24159263
Considering the results for >49 have us roll to affect either the hand, lower arm, or upper arm, I guess we'd just roll to see which part we hit?

Also, I'm okay with going to Graphic Gore. I feel slighted by this game. First I get a modifier of just "-". Not -0. Not -1. Just "-".
Then the game says "the opponent is damaged." But the opening to Disarm says the opponent in generally unharmed, so I have nothing to go off how badly to damage the opponent, or if armor matters.

So I want to just treat it like a >49 result.

Keep voting y'all. What do you want to have happen One of you sure wants GG, one of you wants to put it off til later.

>>24159346
Welcome to FATAL.

>>24159346
You could probably safely assume that the head of your character's penis is the same hue. Uh, unless there's already a stat for that.

>>24159404

I...I've never checked to see if the head of my penis and my nipples are the same color.

Goddamn FATAL threads.

>>24159388
I think the correct way is to treat "damaged" as a hit to the hand using the disarm roll. So I'll vote for whatever that implies....

>>24159433
I just realized that I have.

Goddamn FATAL threads.

>>24159388
If there's no other way to get damage from the "you deal damage" roll, then let's go for Graphic Gore.

>>24159474
Was it difficult to identify?

Rolled 2

>>24159433
Never thought to do that before either. Ya learn somethin' new every day.


>>24159459
ALRIGHT! What's one of the rules of GM? Don't get bogged down in the rules!

This is FATAL. The Dice Never Lie.

1-5 = Graphic Gore. Further 1d100: (1-50) = Hand, (51-80) = Lower Arm, (81-100) = upper arm.
6-10 = Roll (1d20+3) * 0.3078 for damage to Waad's right hand.

>>24159547
I loled.

>>24159570
Graphic Gore it is. Someone roll 1d100.

Here's hoping we get some hand revenge.

Rolled 18

>>24159586

I'm hoping for something horrible.

That’s it. I’m sick of all this “Anal Circumference” bullshit that’s going on in the d20 system right now. Anuses deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

>>24159606

Oh.

Oh god no.

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>>24159606
Have you seen the Ripped Orifice section?

>>24159603
Time for your introduction to Graphic Gore.

You know Dark Heresy's critical hits table? Rolemaster's critical hit TABLE table? Riddle of Steel's wounding chart? This is the same thing.

Normally, a natural attack skill check of 25 or higher that ALSO surpasses the target's CA by 3 or more results in Graphic Gore to the part you would have hit.

Graphic Gore can also occur when you Disarm someone really well (apparently) and often occurs when you make a Called Shot to a specific body part.

After the Graphic Gore I'll post Houby's mental disorders.

>>24159723
Oh, hey, it's even legit. Fuck yeah.
>Attack skill checks include ... DISARM

Rolled 7, 10, 7 = 24

>>24159723

I guess we roll for the chart?

>>24159723
As you can see in the last paragraph, there are some skills that directly add to your Graphic Gore results. They don't help your chances of getting it in the first place, though. The only thing that helps with that is Weapon Master.

I suppose Knights may have those skills but only if they were extensively trained.

Roll 3d10 on the Pounding: Hand table.

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>>24159784
>>24159782
24? Good roll. Look what you got.

>>24159784
See
>>24159782

I think...

>>24159802
We destroyed his hand! Revenge!

>>24159802
Justice!

(... oh god the text of those rules ...)

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>>24159802
>known more commonly as their asshole or poop-chute

>>24159802

Why is there a 1% chance of death per testicle squished?

>>24159888
Because FATAL is an extensively researched game that strives for realism.

>>24159802
>>24159808
>>24159826
>>24159846

So now we're just two one-handed assholes swinging at each other? I guess we win by default since we have a one-handed weapon.

>>24159888
Shock?

>>24159675

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself was born with an anus in America and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even envelop solid slabs of steel with my anus. God himself spent years creating the perfect anus, folding the large and small intestines over a million times to produce the finest anus known to mankind.

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>>24159929
>I can even envelop solid slabs of steel with my anus.

Please. Please no more.

I can't take it.

>>24159867
It suddenly occurs to me that "poopchute" would make for a great insult.

> cut someone off in traffic
> he pulls up next to you at the light
> "Watch what you're doing, shithead!"
> "Go stuff it up your poopchute!"

> player wants to mess with player who just joined the group
> using metagame knowledge to "randomly dig around the courtyard" where that player's treasured family heirloom is buried
> "Dude, why are you being such a poopchute?"

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>>24159929

>>24159926

But there isn't any added possibility of death from all the penis hurting.

Just testicles.

>>24160039

In FATAL, nuts bust YOU.

Gentlemen, gentlemen, we have been going about this all wrong. While physical combat is indeed full of signature horrible FATALisms, to experience the true breadth of FATAL fail you need to have a MAGICAL duel. It wasn't the Graphic Gore table that made FATAL infamous.

>>24159888
My brother once suffered a crushed testicle playing ball hockey. He went home and put ice on it, but a few hours later he was shaking and sweating and I had to rush him to the hospital. I guess it can cut off blood circulation and stuff? Or you can just bleed to death maybe (because it's venous blood so the vessel doesn't contract to pinch it off). Anyway, they rushed him into surgery.

Saved his nuts, though.

>>24159888
FATAL.

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>>24159929

>>24160139
>Saved his nuts, though.

Modern science has its priorities straight.

>>24160128
OP needs to do this after we resolve this duel

although I am unsure if 4chan will still be around when we finish calculating everything...

>>24160128
After seeing this, I'm in for any FATAL duel threads anyone wants to run in the future.

This is awesome, and horrible magical rules can only improve the horror of this experience.

>>24160128

But we don't have all year.

>>24159929
What the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch? I'll have you know I had the widest anus in the navy seals, I've been involved in many anal engulfings, and have 300 confirmed objects shoved up my ass.

>>24159867
Dang it Hilary can't you stay out of my fecht threads?

Alright, where were we?
Right, Waad is disarmed!

Now it's Waad's turn in initiative.

We'll assume the sword fell "several feet away" as per the 30-39 result. The >49 result is better, so, presumably it does better.

Waad could move over to his sword and kneel down to pick it up, but...could he do that within 3 seconds? I dunno, that's pushing it. I'll say it takes 2 rounds total to get his sword back. One round to move to it and kneel, one to pick it up and stand up.

What does Waad do? Go for his sword? Brawl? Wrestle?

>>24160267

Doesn't he have a backup weapon? A dagger maybe?

>>24153854
i know that feel bruh

>>24160267
grapple

>>24160267
used his gauntlets to slap his foe

>>24160260

Where's Dr. Assmarbles when you need him?

>>24160267
Oh, let's see some good ol'-fashioned wrasslin'.

No, wait! Kick him in the nards!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu6L9pG_E6o

>>24160267

Time to try out FATAL's grapple rules.

>>24160139
Sounds like an infection from a busted organ.

>>24160267
Go for the most crunch heavy and total shit part of any system

Mother

Fucking

Grapple

>>24160386
I don't think it could get infected that quickly. Think of it like a testicular torsion, plus the lingering trauma of getting a slapshot in the groin.

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>>24160260
Hahahah

>>24160128
We already have the Kobold we made in FATAL Friday. Problem is most of his spells required absurd ingredients.

Guess we could reroll the chant/ingredients, and make a new spellcaster. It'd be fun for a weekend project! Good idea anon.

While you guys figure out what to do I'll get some more numbers crunched and screenshots cropped.

>>24160299
Knights don't carry backup weapons, are you crazy?
I didn't expect disarming to occur.
Why, as a matter of fact, Helmin Waad never goes anywhere without his trusty...
...grappling skills!

I have no idea what the penalties are for one-handed grappling so I'll get back to you guys in a few minutes. Grappling's actually really dangerous. Look at the suplex's damage. If your foe isn't wearing a helmet you could easily kill a man with a suplex.

>>24160436
That's possibly even more wince-inducing.

>>24160260

I strangled 8 baby seals to death within the ring of my own anus. Whatever, whatever, I do what I want!

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Okay. Since I can't find rules directly stating it I will go with my instincts.

Wrestling will occur with both hands. But we don't have two hands anymore so we'll use what we have.

Wrestling is a 3d10 + the average of Strength + Agility. Counting the penalties for a lost hand, this means Waad rolls 3d10 + (22+3)/2 == 3d10 + 12

Houby rolls an opposting Wrestling roll of 3d10 + (9+6)/2 == 3d10 +7

Get rolling!

>>24160808
GO WAAD!!!

Rolled 1, 6, 1 + 7 = 15

>>24160808

For Houby

>>24160808
RIP AND TEAR!

>>24160844
Seriously n'wah? How do you still put the dice in the wrong field? Try again, this time with feeling!

Rolled 3, 3, 8 + 12 = 26

>>24160844

Silly anon.

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>>24160989
>>24160872
Waad got 26, Houbly got 15.

Waad rolls 1d20 and applies that maneuver!

Keep in that mind that by RAW, only human males are capable of rape and they can only rape females (of any species). Both fighters are male so rape is impossible.

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>>24161031

>Keep in that mind that by RAW, only human males are capable of rape and they can only rape females (of any species). Both fighters are male so rape is impossible.


I think we can make an exception for FATAL, can't we?

>>24161031
It's like the worst parts of tumblr and a bunch of Gor fanfic got together and made a terrible RPG.

>>24161116
>playing FATAL
>its rules say X
>"I think we can make an exception for FATAL"
What? Roll me a 1d20 already you lazy bum.

Rolled 6

>>24161130

Fine. But you hate fun.

...Is that what I consider fun? Oh god, I've been here too long.

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>>24161116
>you will never own a mustachio'd codpiece

>>24161161

>wrist lock

Jesus Christ, we're not resting until neither of us have any hands left.

>>24161161
I don't know about you guys, but I'm having fun. It took me since yesterday afternoon to assemble all this stuff.

>6
>Wrist lock - Foe's wrist is trapped in an awkward position
I imagine holding a hand with no wrist would be kind of awkward anyway
>and the foe may attempt to escape with a successful Wrestling skill check at TH 13. If failed, then Waad may break Houby's wrist, reducing Hand-Eye Coordination
With THAT hand
>to 30%, as well as administering
Not delivering, administering
>2d6 damage. Otherwise the grappler may continue their submission hold and administer 2d4 subdual damage per round, unless the foe escapes the lock, though the TH increases by 3 per round

So. I'm pretty sure this TH13 Wrestling roll has to happen now. You can't break a dude's wrist through armor in 3 seconds, so I think that has to happen next round. I can't really tell.

Someone roll Houby's Wrestling check! 3d10 + 7, and remember that a natural 6 or lower is an automatic failure anyway.

>>24160437
What the shit.

A suplex deals about half the amount of damage a fucking zweihander deals.

>>24161306
I mean, if you think about it, getting dropped onto your neck is gonna hurt like a motherfucker, no matter WHO you are. Necks are delicate.

Rolled 2, 8, 8 + 7 = 25

>>24161301
COME ON FUMBLE

>>24161306
The Zweihander gets bonuses to damage from Strength. Wrestling doesn't get a bonus to damage from Strength.
>>24161370
Easily breaks free!

Time for a new round. We need initiative rolls.

Waad isn't holding his sword so his DP doesn't apply. He rolls 1d100+20 I believe.

Houby rolls 1d100-27 as normal. Get to it!

Rolled 61 + 20

>>24161455

WAAAAAAAAAAD

Rolled 21

>>24161455

For poor Houby

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>>24161582
Geez Houby. You suck at initiatives rolls.

Okay. What's Waad going to do now?!

>>24161640

We don't have many options without both hands. More Wrasslin?

>>24161672
Well, here's the thing. You could Wrestle, you have an edge in that regard. (Armor doesn't seem to help against it...) Or you could get your sword and wield it one-handed. You CAN use it one-handed; you just take a penalty to your hit rates.

I've done the calculations. Waad can use the sword, albeit ineffectively, with a strength of only 133. Waad has more than that. I can do the other calculations as necessary.

In fact, FATAL's equations here are so bonkers that if you're too weak to effectively use a weapon, your penalty with using it gets LOWER the WEAKER you are. If you need 149 strength and you have 148, you may have a -9 penalty. If you need 149 strength but only have 120, you'd only have a -8 penalty. It's bonkers.

It'd take you a full round to go over and prepare to get the sword though.

Up to you. Seems most of the participants have left for the night.

>>24161751
Grappling seems like the best choice at the moment, since a lucky attack could easily bisect us. At least with grappling we have a chance to damage or cripple the enemy before being brutalized.

>>24161751
Go for the sword!

>>24161751

Go for the sword and go for the kill.

Or get killed. Either one.

Rolled 4, 7, 8 = 19

>>24161751
WRASSLIN'.

>>24161812
>>24161816
>>24161840
>>24161853

Well. Normally I let the dice decide, but I'll give you more time to discuss before rolling.

Anyone else?

And while you decide, what is Houby going to do?!

>>24154059
>Wait, what are the measurements taken in? Imperial? Metric? This matters, guys.

>>24161867
FATAL is based on the realistic standards of Europe so it uses modern American Imperial measurements.

Rolled 9, 6, 2 = 17

>>24161860
Does anyone still have useful hands? I'd say try for a throw, then use the time the other guy spends getting up to grab a weapon.

Hold on, does kneeling to pick up the sword provide our opponent any bonuses against us?

>>24161913
I don't think so. I've seen nothing about different postures.

Calculating some sword stuff. You guys got a decision yet?

>>24161945
I vote to go for the sword and hope Houby fumbles.

Rolled 10, 8, 1 = 19

>>24161945
My vote is still WRASSLIN'.

Whoever's not WRASSLIN' should dive for their weapon.

>>24161945

I'm still going with sword.

This reminds me of the time /tg/ made Spider, dwarf of steel in realms of antlasia, and put him up against a group of light infantry 3km away.
He was crippled when one soldier decided to toss his wooden sheild three thousand meters, hit Spider in the back of his knee, ignore his armour, and bring him from 40 to 3 HP.

Rolled 4, 4, 9 = 17

>>24161998
wut

>>24161998

When the fuck did that happen?

Rolled 5

>>24161998
Ah, Realms of Atlansia. Or was it Atlantiasia? That was a fun one.
>>24162022
Check the Archives for "Realms of Atla" and it's sure to show up. Maybe...2010? 2011?

Seems about even to me. The Dice Never Lie
1-5 = Wrassle
6-10 = Swoard

>>24162092
WRASSLIN' WINS

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>>24162092
Well that was easy to find.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17056372/

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23165116/

WRASSLIN'

Roll 3d10 +12 for Waad and 3d10 +7 for Houby!

>By the way, using your sword 1-handed at the weakest fulcrum point will give you a -7 penalty to all your attacks, counting the -10% Strength for losing your other hand. I feel that adequately covers any off-hand penalties I don't see in the book

Rolled 4, 3, 3 + 12 = 22

>>24162165

LET'S GO!