Kiritsugu von Einzbern
[ATTRIBUTES]

[8] Strength - B+ "You're no Hulk, but you're stronger than most."
[8] Agility - B+ "You're fast on your feet and quick with your reflexes"
[8] Endurance - B+ "You can take your beatings better than most people."
[7] Intelligence - B "You're damned clever, but you're no academic."
[3] Luck - D "You rely on skill much more than luck."

[7] Circuit Quality (CQ) - B [8 Prana per Circuit]
[7] Circuit Quantity (CC) - B [17 Circuits, one of which has been opened]
[-] Thaumaturgic Crest - N/A [6 Circuits, 2 Mysteries]

Magic Circuits Open - 17/17 +6/6
Prana Available - 256/256 [17 B Quality, 6 EX quality]
Wounds - 0/10

[SKILLRATINGS]
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[15] Academics (Mundane) [INT] - B+
[15] Academics (Magecraft) [INT] - B+
[17] Acrobatics [AGI] - A
[17] Athletics [END] - A
[18] Capioera [AGI] - A+
[17] Chuk Kun Do [END] - A
[13] Computer Use [INT] - C+
[10] Cooking [AGI] - E+
[17] Craft (Mystic Codes) [INT] - A+
[16] Craft (Bounded Field) [INT] - A
[16] Explosives - [INT] A
[17] Isshin-Ryu [STR] - A
[19] Krav Maga [INT] - EX+
[18] Marksmanship (One Handed Firearms) [AGI] - A+
[18] Marksmanship (Two Handed Firearms) [AGI] - A+
[17] Origin Magic [CQ] - A+
[13] Reinforcement [CQ] - C+
[14] Shinsendou [CQ] - B
[19] Stealth [AGI] - EX
[17] Tracking [INT] - A+

[MYSTERIES]

Contract Familiar: You invest 10 prana into a nonsentient creature whose attitude is friendly or better, making it your familiar until you choose to end the spell, or it dies.

Night Sight: You invest 15 prana into your eyes, and may see in darkness as if it were daylight until you dismiss the spell.

Suggestion: You implant a hypnotic suggestion in your target, making them more amicable towards the action requested. Costs 6 prana per individual you are hypnotisizing.

Flame Burst: An offensive fire spell. You strike an enemy with an unarmed attack, and they burst into flame for an additional would. Costs 12 prana.

>Field Too Long

>>24187585
>Check to see if Harry and Illya were followed from St. Mungo's.
PARANOIA

then
>Go visit Iri in the Laboratory.
and ask why she seems intent on shipping Hary and Illya

>>24187601
Pass Through Earth: You fill your body with some of your prana. You may pass through any earthen barrier for 10 rounds as if it were air. Costs 20 prana.

Time Alter (Double Acceleration): You create a false reality marble that allows you to accelerate your own personal time. This puts great strain on your body, but allows you to act twice per turn. At the end of your acceleration, you take a number of wounds equal to the number of rounds you accelerated yourself for. Costs 30 prana, lasts up to [END-Wounds] Rounds.

Time Alter (Triple Stagnation): You create a false reality marble that allows you to slow down your own personal time. This puts some moderate strain upon your body, but allows you to become almost completely silent. While stagnated, you may only take one move action or standard action per turn, but you gain a +6 to your stealth rating for the purposes of not being heard. When you dismiss the spell, you take 2 wounds. Lasts up to three minutes.

[TRAITS]

Grail War Victor: You have participated in a Grail War and laid your eyes upon the Holy Grail. You gain +4 to your Academics (Magecraft) Rating for information regarding them.

Overprotective Father: You gain a +2 to your [Martial Art] and Marksmanship Ratings when defending your daughter and/or her honor.

[PERKS]

Magus Killer - Your Stealth Rating, Marksmanship Rating, and [Martial Art] Rating increases by 2 when you're opposing a Magus.

Thaumaturgic Crest VI: You have a Thaumatugic Crest of [N] EX quality circuits, granting you [N/3] [Family] Mysteries.

Toughness - You have 2 additional wounds beyond your Endurance Rating.

Mixed Martial Arts - You are eligible to obtain an EX or higher rating in [Martial Arts] Skills.

Breathing and Walking - You take no penalty using [Magecraft] skills while moving.

Combat Clarity - You take no penalty using [Magecraft] or [Advance] skills during combat.

>>24187585
>>24187585
>possess a very specific set of skills. A set of skills that make you a nightmare to sealing designates who choose to go the down the route of the "Philosopher".
"This summer.
Liam Neeson is.
The Magus Killer."
As much as I hate when Hollywood whitewashes casts, I would totally watch that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJsqw-HD8us

>Go see if you can talk to someone at St. Mungo's about their werewolf containment.
As much as I want to know about the effects of Saber's wish, this is more important.

>>24187585

>Reminisce over the effects of Arturia's wish.

This is relevant to my interests.

>Go visit Iri in the Laboratory.

Kerry should be a good husband.

>Check to see if Harry and Illya were followed from St. Mungo's.

As the man said, PARANOIA.

Too stats an numbers heavy for /tg/

>>24187585


>Check to see if Harry and Illya were followed from St. Mungo's.
just a quick sweep thus is the life.

>>Research the nature of Harry's clearly Mystic Eyes.

>>24187683

Let the man have his stats, they amuse us.

>>24187585
So, I'm curious. If Harry's mysterious benefactor is always watching, would it be possible to say grab a nearby bird, make it a familiar and then write a letter to: "Harry's Benefactor. Always Watching. Little Whinging, Surrey, England." and see if it gets to him? It'd at least let us see how wide his web is weaved.

>Reminisce over the effects of Arturia's wish.

I really want to know this but all of the options seem important as well.

>>24187895

We have generally been able to choose more than one.

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>Check to see if anyone followed Harry and Illya back from the St. Mungos.

You go to your desk and grab your trusty Tomphson contender. You don't load one of your Origin Bullets in it, but pick up one of the silver bullets Old Man Acht gave you for that trip to romania, just in case that werewolf fellow is still on the loose. It would be a shame to put such a nice fellow down, but if his rampage threatened your family, you'd have no choice.

It's been a while since you last used one of your Origin Specials. That was back when England didn't have a strong tradition of gender equity dating back to the 800s, and when Mallory's Le Morte d'Arturia was the Le Morte d'Arthur. You're glad that your old compatriot got her wish. You're also a bit nonplussed as to why it didn't effect your memory. Then again, the Grail does touch upon the True Magics, so...

You lean out of the doorframe, and something catches your ears. Its subtle but there, like the first kernel of popcorn cracking in the pan, or a Christmas ornament shattering from a tree. You turn to the left, but nothing's there.

You step outside to get a closer looks as to whatever might have caused that crack, murmurring a small aria to grant yourself night vision. No one is there, that you can see, but you don't quite trust your senses - you've dealt with illusions and mundane trickery enough to know to never trust your eyes. You take a few more steps out the door, and there's another crack, behind you.

You feel something press up against your back - a gun? A mystic code? A strongly accented male voice - you place it from South Africa, if your ears don't decieve you.

"I thought it was only muggle -criminals- that used those metal wands of theirs," the voice mutters. "Drop it, Mr. von Einzbern, and tell me what you've got to hide."

>Field too long

>>24187931
Peh. Only amateurs put their weapons to their target's back. You...
>Don't comply... violently. [Roll 3d6, Krav Maga]
>Don't comply... stall, try to get some answers.
>Don't comply... with MAGIC! Cast Flame Burst [Roll 3d6, Krav Maga]
>Comply, bullshit him.
>[Other]

Rolled 5, 6, 2 = 13

>>24187941

We are Kerry. I think he would get the gun away from him first.

>Don't comply... violently. [Roll 3d6, Krav Maga]

>>24187931
>[]other

"Maiya"

>>24187931
>That was back when England didn't have a strong tradition of gender equity dating back to the 800s, and when Mallory's Le Morte d'Arturia was the Le Morte d'Arthur. You're glad that your old compatriot got her wish.
Saber Lily was Queen of England! =D

Stall him.

>>24187931
I believe that is that good fellow, Kingsley Shacklebolt. Also:

>Don't comply, stall and bullshit him to get answers.

>>24187931
>metal wand
It's called a "firearm" Kingsley. You probably should have done some research before you came after The Magus Killer.
>>24187941
>Comply, bullshit him.
I really don't wanna kill Kingsley if I don't have to. I'm hoping at some point he can declare that Kiritsugu has "got style".

Rolled 4, 4, 6 = 14

>>24187941
Don't comply... violently. [Roll 3d6, Krav Maga]

>dat magus killer bonus
>overprotective bonus because endangering Illya by trespassing on OUR LAWN

Hnnng, ass whooping time, we can torture him for information later. Also, do Harry Potter wizards count as magi?

Looking at this is making me miss the old make your own servant threads.

We used to have so much fun.

>>24188061
You could always start a new one.

>>24187970
Combination of this and stall. Stall him then say something like "non-fatal Maiya" so we can capture him and find out what's going on.

>>24188066
I just might do that

Wait, so is the grail not corrupt in this world? That guarantees Kirei and Gilgamesh are dead if it's the case.

>>24188027
This. Do this.

>>24187970
This. I assume Kerry kept her around given Illya's comments

>>24187931
>>Don't comply... violently. [Roll 3d6, Krav Maga]

Rolled 1, 1, 3 = 5

>>24188198
dam dice

>>24188214
I guess we're kicking Kingsley's ass.

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>>24188214
>2 crits

>>24187601
>[7] Circuit Quantity (CC) - B [17 Circuits, one of which has been opened]

I assume this was a copy paste error from Harry's stat sheet.

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You drop the Thompson Contender - it's not like you don't have three others in your jacket anyways, and at this range, your fists are just as good, if not better. Besides, one of the rules of hostage situations were to do everything you could to make the holder believe that they had power, even if they were doomed to failure. That way, they got confident, they slipped up, and you could more easily exploit their mistakes.

You do somewhat wish that you hadn't put Maiya to the task of breaking into government records tonight; you're fairly certain that this man's the same sort of fake that James Potter was. Would have made your life a lot easier if she could just kneecap him for you.

"Mind filling me on what a 'muggle' is?" you ask.

"Not important," the man says. "Albus Dumbledore wants to know a bit more about the man who lives across the street from Harry Potter." Your gun starts to float off the the ground, into the hand of the man behind you. "Like why he's got one of those firelegs the please men are supposed to be carrying around."

Albus Dumbledore, huh? You'll keep that name in mind for the future.

"I'm a Police Man myself," you lie. "That's my service pistol."

"I though firelegs were supposed to have a magazine..." he trailed off, "Though why you'd need to read when casting... oh I see what you're doing."

"And what am I doing?" you ask.

"Stalling me. Trying to think up a clever way out - but I should tell you, you've got no idea what you're-"

You cut him off with a quick hold, taking control of his weapon arm and neutralizing its threat. Your foot slams down upon his leg, and you feel whatever it was in his hand slip from his grasp and fall to the floor. His leg now broken, you push him into the stairs behind your door, and train one of your back up pistols on him. The African fellow seems a bit stupefied, and stares in shock at whatever he dropped.

>Field too long.

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>>24188295

You...
>Ask him to fill you in on what a muggle is.
>Demand to know who sent him.
>Shoot him in the other leg, just in case. [Roll 3d6]
>Ask him who Albus Dumbledore is.
>[Other]

Rolled 5, 5, 3 = 13

>>24188313

WHO IS ALBUS DUMBLEDORE

If necessary, shoot him again!

>>24188313
[]Other

"seriously? fireleg? What, are you from the middle ages? is your idea of a soldier still a knight?"

"Oh wait, GUNS were still AROUND back then, so you must be just retarded"

>>24188313
>Ask him who Albus Dumbledore is.

>>24188313
We know who sent him so no need to ask that specifically.

Carefully pick up whatever weapon he was holding us up with while asking who albus dumbledore is, finding out more about who sent him is more important than knowing about a nonsense word.

NC, I was gonna sleep, y'bastard!

Fine, I'll hang around... Until my video buffs, at least.

>>24188313
>Ask him to fill you in on what a muggle is.
>Ask him who Albus Dumbledore is.

Now that we have him down, no need to overly beat the crap out of him. Pick up his wand and look over it, and see if you can get some information.

>>24188313
>>Demand to know who sent him.
no need to shoot him we got him down.

>>24188313

Okay, I'll pitch in.

>Ask him who Albus Dumbledore is
>Smack him for non-compliance

>>24188313
>Ask him who Albus Dumbledore is.
>Ask him to fill you in on what a muggle is.

Holy shit, Nasuverse and Potterverse are existing as different things in one world.

What the fuck.

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"So," you say cheerily, "mind filling in me on what a Muggle is?"

"A person who can't use magic," he replies.

"You need a term for that?" You ask, reaching down to pick up whatever it was he was pointing at you. You are oddly disappointed to discover that it is, in fact, a stick. A stick that seems to be a sort of rudimentary Mystic Code, but a stick none the less.

"Well, yes..." the man says. "This may come as a shock to you, Mr. von Einzbern, but there is another side to this world, one that cannot know exists, hidden away from the mundane folk. A world of people who can perform magic." He speaks with great gravity. "Harry is a part of this world."

"A secret society that can perform Magic..." You blanch. "That's... completely terrifying. It would explain why the documents you forged for a toddler were all but perfect. If you can do Magic, things like that are almost trivial..."

"Yes," the man nods. "It would be horrifying to a muggle like yourself, to know that such difficult tasks are trivial to the privileged. But you have to understand that, that for the good of everyone, you cannot be allowed to keep this knowledge."

You stare at him. Yeah, that's not gonna fly; but, pretending that you'll go along with it might get you some more information.

"So..." You trail off, as if in askance of a name.

"Kingsley Shacklebolt."

"Yeah, so Kingsley, if you're gonna mind wipe me anyways, mind telling me who this Dumbledore character is?"

"He is a good man," Shacklebolt says, "And an even greater Wizard."

"...You mean Sorcerer." You fill in. You might not be all that good at researching, but you know the terminology... well, mostly.

"Well, yes, that's another term. Mage, Sorcerer, Witch, Wizard, all the same thing, just different words."

Okay, now you know that's wrong. You...
>Inform him that he is wrong, the terminology matters.
>Reveal yourself as a Magus by using one of your Mysteries.
>Ask him to continue on about Albus.
>[Other]

>>24188708

Late to the party, I think.

>>24188717
>Reveal yourself as a Magus by using one of your Mysteries.
"For the record, my title is "mage killer". Now, are you trying to harm Illya or Harry?"

>>24188717
>Inform him that he is wrong, the terminology matters.
Spill the beans that we are, in fact, a magus.

>>24188717
>Ask him to continue on about Albus.

We're a clever man, if he's from an organisation that doesn't distinguish between Mage, Sorceror, Witch and Wizard then it's obviously not the same kind of magic. We don't want to give him information about what we know.

>>24188717
>Inform him that he is wrong, the terminology matters.
FUCKING IRRESPONSIBLE ASSHOLES! THE TERMINOLOGY DOES MATTER! CAN THIS "DUMBLEDORE" PERFORM ANY OF THE TRUE MAGICS?!

>>24188760

Going with this one instead. Let's play it cool, people.

Destroy the stick.

Shit might be useless to us but we don't want to be magically shiv'd

>>24188783
No need to destroy the stick. Besides, if we're on the same side we can give it back to him.

>>24188717
>>Inform him that he is wrong, the terminology matters.

then show him
>Reveal yourself as a Magus by using one of your Mysteries.

>>24188798
Oh
We're not headshotting the guy?

Sorry

>>24188798

True dat. We wan no more trabble. No need to make folk angrier.

>>24188749
Short version, so you can keep up is this.
There are two types of "magic" in the Nasuverse. Magecraft, or Thaumaturgy, is the ability to reproduce what can be scientifically realized regardless of time and funds. The limits of Magecraft have changed with time, as science evolved and Sorceries from before became technically possible through science.
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Magecraft
The term "Magic" is reserved for the Five True Magics, events that are unachievable through the mere expenditure of time and resources, so no matter the difficulty, events brought about through such methods will never be seen as Magic.
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Magic

Basically, if "muggles" can get the same end result through science and tech, it's Magecraft, if the end result is something that should be impossible by our understanding of the universe, it's Magic.

>>24188839
>The limits of Magecraft have changed with time, as science evolved and Sorceries from before became technically possible through science.

To illustrate this, before the Wright brothers did it, someone being able to fly was a True Magic, the instant they succeeded at flying it became Magecraft.

>>24188880
Actually, it became Magecraft as soon as the Montgolfier brothers flew via hot air balloon.
The Wright Brothers achieved the first HEAVIER THAN AIR flight. What do they teach in schools these days?

>>24188916
>What do they teach in schools these days?
Not how to learn.

>>24188916
Derp, sorry I'm an idiot.

>>24188839
>>24188880
Just sayin' but that sounds pretty fucking...

...Okay, I guess this makes sense.
Since shit is shaped up by beliefs, If I got that properly as long as people think It's fucking dumb and impossible, the general population's "uh-huhIdon'tThinkSo" makes It magical?

>>24188966
>Since shit is shaped up by beliefs, If I got that properly as long as people think It's fucking dumb and impossible, the general population's "uh-huhIdon'tThinkSo" makes It magical?
You're wrong, I'm extremely sure.

>>24188760

Agreed.

>>24188966
>Since shit is shaped up by beliefs, If I got that properly as long as people think It's fucking dumb and impossible, the general population's "uh-huhIdon'tThinkSo" makes It magical?

Not quite, it's simply "If it couldn't be achieved in some way with technology then it's classed as a Magic." Bringing someone back from the dead is Magic, healing someone who's badly hurt could just be done at a hospital and is thus Magecraft. There's nothing metaphysical about it, it's just what people have defined them as.

>>24188966
Magic is more god of the gaps.

Nothing to do with belief, just arbitrary categorizations.

Like every other SCIENCE humanity does

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"Just a question before I give this back," you say, giving the stick in your hands a little twirl. "Do you have any intention to bring harm to any of the other residents of this household?"

Now, here's the neat thing about bounded fields; you can set them up to detect almost anything - from intrusion, to thoughts of malice, to whether they consider a specific person any enemy, to lies. Mind you, they aren't perfect - nothing ever is - but they're good enough for the vast majority of purposes. Such as posing an earnest question to a wounded man sitting on your stairwell.

"No," He says, "I was only sent here to observe you, and see why Mr. Potter didn't return to his family's home when he left St. Mungos."

There is no lie, that your fields can tell.

"Good," you say cheerily, "I'd have hated to have had to kill you. You seem like a nice, intelligent fellow." Your vision turns dark. "I mean, besides the whole breaking and entering unwelcomed into the sanctum of a Magus without any backup. That was all sorts of stupid." You sigh. "I mean, I'd have had to clean up before my daughter and Harry get done watching their movie and come running down the stairs for another one."

"You would have killed me in cold blood?" The man asks, a little bit frightened.

"In a heartbeat," you say. "I am the dreaded Magus Killer, after all. And, just so you know, the terminology is very important. I mean, for a second there, you had me thinking all of you and this Albus Dumbledore could perform one of the True Magics."

"You're a wizard, von Einzbern?" He asks, nonplussed. "And what is this True Magic?"

You...
>Inform the ignorant fellow.
>Tell him to do his own damned research.
>No. No. We're not doing this. No info dumps.
>Don't have a policy of letting burglars live. [Roll 3d6]
>[Other]

>>24189189
[Got to head to class. Might not be back for a long while.]

>>24189189
>>Tell him to do his own damned research.

>>24189189
>No. No. We're not doing this. No info dumps.
Nothing you need to worry about. And the reason Harry did not go back to the Dursley's is simple: they are assholes, he's my apprentice, and my family is fond of the boy.

now get out

>>24189109
I'm pretty sure I don't understand because that sounds childish as fuck.
>Did you hear, Gandalf? The ordinary folk can now fly. With the help of machines. It's just like our magic.
>IT'S NOT MAGIC ANYMORE, DUMBLEDORE. CALL IT MAGECRAFT
>But...
>MAGE. CRAFT.

>>24189189
>Inform the ignorant fellow.
>Other: Ask him if it would be possible to have a chat with Dumbledore.

If we give him some information, he might start filling in information of his own and why he wouldn't know the terminology. And if we can get a chat with Dumbledore, we might be able to find out why he has people following Harry and what's going on.

>>24189189
>No infodumps

Get out.

Those people are fucking amateurs

>>24189260
>I'm pretty sure I don't understand because that sounds childish as fuck.
>that sounds childish as fuck.
>a secret society of mages
Really?

>>24189189

>Tell him to do his own damned research.

>>24189260
Nasuverse magic is somehow very detailed and very vague at the same time. One of the core principles is that the more people know how to do something, the less powerful that magic becomes.

>>24189260
eh it makes sense. Magic is usually That Which Science Cannot Comprehend, so when science can now comprehend it people stop calling it magic.

>>24189189
>No. No. We're not doing this. No info dumps.
Harry is here because he wants to be here and my family likes him. now get out before I get irritated

>>24189189
>Tell him to do his own damned research.

>>24189189
Ha! He think he's in position to ask questions!

>>24189260
>that sounds childish as fuck.
Par for the course when it comes to nasuverse mages.

>>24189379
you know, part of me wonders if the whole "sex is the most efficient way to transfer prana" thing is true.

Seems like something a bored mage would say to a girl mage he wants to shack up with or vice versa

>>24189414
>you know, part of me wonders if the whole "sex is the most efficient way to transfer prana" thing is true.
It's not true in-universe.

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>>24189379
Wait what do you mean?
I only watched bits of Stay/night anime and that picture

>>24189260
>>24189260
Think of it as flying with brooms = magecraft, because 'flying with assistance' is possible, even if it's unlikely.
Flying because 'fuck gravity,' buck naked with nothing but the power of your mind? Magic. It's impossible.
Magecraft = Unlikely
Magic = Impossible.

>>24189414
Blood transfusions are probably equally effective, transmission of bodiky fluids and all, but they'd require much more equipment.

>>24189438
>Wait what do you mean?
Mages in Nasuverse are (almost) uniformly petty dickheads who care about nothing more than advancing their own research.

>>24189189

Let him stew in his ignorance.

>>24189458
>Think of it as flying with brooms = magecraft, because 'flying with assistance' is possible, even if it's unlikely.
>Flying because 'fuck gravity,' buck naked with nothing but the power of your mind? Magic. It's impossible.

That's just wrong, before the first hot air balloon flight, flying in any way was Magic, be it naked or riding a carpet. Flying in any way after that is Magecraft because you can fly with technology. You can't just make something a Magic by putting limitations on how you do it otherwise Projection would be a True Magic cause you're not using any tools to make something stronger.

>>24189483
if some one wanted to get into the Nasuvers what would you recommend? cause this thread has peeked my interest.

>>24189483

Though is should be noted that Kerry here is the exception.

>>24189531
Fate/zero anime.

Kara no Kyoukai.

And then go with whatever

>>24189438
>watched bits of Stay/night anime
>watched the F/SN anime
You poor, poor anon.

>>24189531

/a/ will tell you to read the VNs, so will I, but not everyone has the appetite for it, so I will just say go find a batch torrent of Fate Zero and spend a few days on it. Damn good show, covers most of the basics along the way.

Though playing the F/SN VN is the best option. I suggest you avoid the F/SN anime, however.

Kara No Kyoukai is also a fine choice. Its a movie series.

>>24189531
Play Tsukihime or Fate/Stay Night. You can get english patches at mirrormoon.org.

>>24189531
Tsukihime doesn't cover much magic (arc briefly mentions circuits in passing) so it stands alone pretty well.

Play Fate/Stay as well, it covers all of magecraft.

stay away from the animes that aren't Fate/Zero (BROSKANDER)

>>24189548
>>24189558
>watch Fate/zero

Only do this if you have no intention of playing Fate/stay night ever. It spoils the VN massively.

>>24189575
>stay away from the animes that aren't Fate/Zero (BROSKANDER)
Or Kara no Kyoukai. Kara no Kyoukai is a DAMN good adaptation of the books. It also has Best Shiki in it.

>>24189582

This is true. I tend to forget. That said, several non-VN inclined friends of mine have gotten into the Verse through Zero, so I do not hesitate to recommend it.

>>24189582
But the VN can be a pretty fucking boring shit for a first timer and I won't blame him for dropping that

>>24189624

Yes, this is what I thought. I loved the VN, to an extreme degree, but I will be the first to admit it can drag in many parts.

So, as I said, if someone wants a quick in to the setting, F/Z is a great choice, if they don't mind spoiling some, but not all, of F/SN.

>>24189624
The problem with the VN is that the first route, which you HAVE to play before the others, is Fate, the most boring of the routes. I mean, it's necessary because it gets all the exposition and shit out of the way to let Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feels do their things, but that doesn't make it any less dry.

>>24189678
>Heaven's Feels
I see what you did there.

>>24189697
it was truly a heartwrenching route

>>24189678

Opinions.

I really enjoyed Fate, especially as someone who was new to the setting. Though it does have a high amount of more mundane slice of life stuff, and if the central romance of the route doesn't click for you, it will be somewhat of a drag.

>>24189674
I like spoilers to my games.. I normal read the walk through guide cover to cover before I even play.

>>24189738
What.
Why would you do that

>>24189738

I do not know why, but I have a distinct urge to find and kill you now. That's not okay.

>>24189738
Heres a spoiler for you, it doesn't end well for anyone.

>>24189761
I like being prepared, and new things scare me and make me angry, I like games more for story.

>>24189775
Debatable, depending on Route

>>24189784

THEN WHY WOULD YOU SPOIL THE STORY

FOR THAT MATTER F/Z IS A SHOW

AND FSN IS A VN

BOTH ARE LINEAR

NO WALK-THROUGH NEEDED

>>24189784

That is so dumb I don't even know where to begin

>>24189738
One thing to keep in mind, these aren't really "games" in that sense. They're Visual Novels. You know those "choose your own adventure" books you probably read as a kid? They're like that. There's no real "gameplay", you just make choices as they pop up.
Also, losing is FUN in Fate and Tsukihime, because it gets you Tiger Dojos and Teach Me Ciel-Senseis, respectively.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn7v7vckNR0

>>24189836
Best Taig Dojo is Tank

>>24189836
intresting...

>>24189836

Several of the most memorable scenes in the VN are bad ends.

The Infamous Mind of Steel, for example.

Though I prefer Sparks Liner High.

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>>24189812
Well i wouldn't exactly call it linear seeming as all ends are canon.

Either way a surprising amount of people play through the game once and never realise that there is a second and third route

>>24189907

There is only one real way through the game, up until the final moments. Yeah, there are variations, but it is 90% linear if not more.

>>24189930
its linear in the same sense as the mass effect games

>>24189978

The Mass Effect games are largely linear, but F/SN is more so. Nothing wrong with that, as previously said I am a huge fan, but it is so.

>>24189978
Except ME decisions don't matter.
And Mass Effect was an actual game

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>>24189978
I like you

>>24190006

Lets not start that, okay?

>>24189978
I'd say F/SN is less linear. Because at least the different endings are, y'know, different.

>>24190027
but its true. you dont play them, you read them. They are very fancy books. Not insulting them, but that's what they are

>>24190037
I meant it in the sense of "Choices alter a given setpiece, but you still go through the setpieces"

>>24189812
F/Z is a light novel series. A Light Novel series that predates the show by about four years (roughly)
>The Visual Novels include some really minor shit they either avoid touching upon or simply leave half-explored

>>24190064

I know that, actually, but no one was recommending him the LNs.

>>24190060

I don't disagree. I just don't want that discussion here. It eats threads. Have you ever been to /a/ or /jp/ when someone asks that?

>>24190064
Don't know why I typed visual novel. Meant to type light novel.

>>24189189
>Tell him to do his own damned research.
Add some magic or something so he knows that were not a muggle trying to bullshit him. We don't want him to gamble and think he can get away with Obliviate'ing us when our back is turned.

It's been so long since I've read Harry Potter, I had to look up what the memory spell was.

>>24190094
Charm.
Obliviate is a Charm.
If we're gonna be autismal about terminology, let's be autismal about ALL terminology.

So what is the appeal of the Nasuverse, aside from the waifus?
I mean seriously, I've seen like 3 quests about it, and I thought it was just one of those CYOA things with porn. And then an anime or something.
What, exactly, is the draw of the setting?

>>24190145
It's delightfully convulated and surprisingly grim

>>24190120
I was under the impression that charms, hexes, curses, etc. were subcategories of spells in Harry Potter. Whereas True Magic/Sorcery (mahou) and Magecraft/Thaumaturgy (majutsu) are two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.

>>24190145

Well, it does have H-scenes, but they are terrible and more of a well known joke to fans than anything that draws people in.

Cool magic system, huge tournament of historical figures fighting to the death, vampires, immortals, all sorts of stuff. Its comparable to World of Darkness in scope and appeal, just with a Japanese bent.

>>24190145
Twists! Turns! Japan fucking up western myths!

its actually a pretty well written story with plenty of sheer awesome moments speckled about. The porn was thrown in to garuntee sales

>>24190120
It's been so long that I even forgot HP differentiated between different types of spells.

>>24190145
>>24190157
It's also fertile soil for powerlevel arguments despite a major theme across Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night being that straight powerlevels don't works and individual match-ups being more important.

>>24190145
There's some really cool ideas going on in it. Basically, Nasu is a massive fucking dork who created this deliciously complex setting. Then his pervert best friend convinced him to make porn in it. Fucking Takahashi.

>>24190204

cryinggilfags.jpeg

>>24190165
You're right, of course.
>>24190204
This too.
Basically, the Nasuverse runs on powerlevels, on it's surface. But when you dig under it, you get into a simple fact. What it REALLY runs on is Hard Counters. MEoDP are a Hard Counter to most vampires, for example.

>>24190221
Also our questrunner's namesake.

>>24190209
>Nasu is a massive fucking dork who created this deliciously complex setting.
How complex?
LOTR-tier?
BattleTech-tier?

>>24190145
Fate/stay night is about 7 humans and 7 servants. Each servant is a hero from legend who's weapons are the embodients of one of their legends (Eg king arthur has excalibur). They all fight to get the holy grail which can grant a wish. Shit gets grim,people get broken, Heck the character you play has been mentally broken since he was a child.

Tsukihime is about a guy who can see the death of nearly everything, and can kill nearly everything. He kills the wrong thing and it comes back to haunt him.

>>24190266

Shit man, there's not a fucking scale for this stuff.

Its pretty diverse. Just pick something and see if you like it.

>>24190266
World of Darkness Tier

>>24190319

This. It is by far the best comparison. In content and scope.

>>24190300
So it's more a storyline then.
Ah well.

>>24190337

Um, what were you expecting?

Are you the same guy who said he loves story?

Do I need to break out my pictures of Marcus Licinius Crassus punching people?

>>24190354
>Do I need to break out my pictures of Marcus Licinius Crassus punching people?
Can you do it anyway?

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>>24190371

I suppose.

To the other guy: Those two works are not the entire setting, by the way. There is a lot of stuff there to draw from.

>>24190402
Note to mention that Extra gets linked to CCC and CCC gets linked to Notes

as long as we're going hilariously off-topic and pushing this towards bump limit

what do ya'll think of Fate/Extra+CCC?

>>24190419

I didn't hear about that, but holy shit, it just keeps getting bigger, doesn't it?

>>24190433

I will be forced to go Gil because they made Archer into a slut, but it looks cool.

>>24190433
You mean Rock Paper Scissors, the Game?

>>24190433
CCC is Golden, although I haven't played it.
A.U.O. CASTOFF!

>>24190433
Word on the street is that CCC is nasu back on top form storywise.

They kept the combat from extra however .

>>24190450
Well its obvious that Archer is a slut. Everyone in the Nasuverse is a slut because Nasu!

>>24190458
>Word on the street is that CCC is nasu back on top form storywise.
YAAYYYY

>They kept the combat from extra however .
BOOO


I still think we should get a proper fate beat-em-up, GodHand style

>>24190450
You know you can get other costumes, right? You're not stuck with Gaybarcher for the entire game unless you want to be.

>>24190435
Yup. Although if we're gonna be technical, Extra and CCC are an Alternate Universe to the "mainline" Nasuverse, the same way Kara no Kyoukai is. But because the existence of Alternate Universes is canon, then that means that they're still part of the Nasumultiverse.
Confused yet?

>>24190450
EVERYONE in CCC is a slut. Except Lancer.
Including Gil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGPg3bq-5ZI
Translation: http://pastebin.com/WcdhaJ9s

>>24190450
>They made archer into a slut
You think he's a slut? get aload of this

Spoiler btw its the last boss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi-wLivfePY
Skip to 4.53

>>24190482

No, just pleased. Though I wish disco Kotomine had a bigger role in Extra.

>>24190477
>GodHand style
So, punishingly hard, but not unfair?
Bitchin'.
There IS Unlimited Codes if you want a Fighting Game. Unfortunately it's no longer available in North America.

>>24190482
You are purposefully overcomplicating it.

The Nasuverse is a mulitverse. Like the Marvelverse.

"main"series is Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya, Fate/zero, and Fate Stay

>>24190523
>Unfortunately it's no longer available in North America.
What system was it for?

>>24190506
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi-wLivfePY
Oh god, Kihara.
At first I thought Heaven's hole was a nickname /a/ made up. Until I saw that battle.

>>24190482
You would be shocked how little difference there actually is between most alternate universes.

Oh, granted, there's always going to be the odd one out. Well… actually, there are an infinite number of odd ones out. You see, the nature of the multiverse is that it's not actually 'multi' so much as 'omni'. Everything that could have possibly happened has happened, and more than that, it has happened an infinite number of times across an infinite number of universes. Therefore it is impossible for any universe to truly be odd, because any given universe is nothing more or less than the sum total of an infinite number of things happening or not happening in combination, and there will be another universe where the exact opposite things happened, and between them will be universes with all of those (again, infinite) things happening in wildly different or nearly identical combinations. And each of those will have an opposite too. And then there are the ones where nothing happened, ever, and the worlds where things have stopped happening. And there are an infinite number of those as well, many of them with subtly different definitions of 'nothing' happening, and sometime the nothing from one leaks into another and becomes something there because that universe has different rules of nothing, so what doesn't exist in one universe not only exists in another, it always has existed and always will exist, while in yet another universe it will never haven't not existed.

And just think: if you were one of my apprentices, I'd be quizzing you on this later. And people wonder why they traditionally don't last long.

>>24190527
Also Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, which is untranslated.

Guess Nero's gonna have to make a new thread when he gets back from class.

>>24190543
Fuck. Kiara, not Kihara.

>>24190521
In CCC you get to fight F/sn Kotomine and Rin.

Kotomine has Lancer
Rin has Archer

>>24190546
In any event, my point was, there are many, many alternate worlds. And many of them are strange indeed. I've seen worlds where life on Earth took vastly different paths; a landscape made up of monumental crystalline mountains constantly wreathed in emerald lightning, populated by formless energy creatures that fed on magnetic charges. I've seen worlds where humanity evolved more quickly; a race of psychics and superhumans who make our greatest achievements look as transient and meaningless as children's sandcastles... and who tear their world apart in wars the scale of which we cannot even imagine. Worlds where man never evolved at all, leaving Gaia wild, cruel, and untamed… but far more beautiful and vibrant, in her own harsh way.

I once saw a world of nothing but shrimp. I tired of that one quickly.

But a surprising number of worlds are nothing like that at all. They're just… exactly what you know. One little difference, maybe two. One person's life is changed, and that's a whole different world. Even though only a select few people are affected, it's still a world all its own.

And sometimes, that rarest of rarities… sometimes, that one little change is just the first few rocks that signal an avalanche, and by the end, the world that used to be so much like your own isn't even recognizable. They say that a butterfly flapping its wings can cause a hurricane on the other side of the world, if it hits the air currents just right. They're not wrong. Sometimes, it doesn't even take that much.

And sometimes not.

And sometimes both. Or neither. Or all of the above, repeating infinitely in a cascade of possible and impossible actions and reactions across all of time and space.

Isn't magic fun?

-An Excerpt From the Memoirs of Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg. If you found parts of it confusing, that's probably for the best.

>>24190552
92.6%!

>>24190546
Teach me, Zelretch-sensei!

>>24190537
PS2

>>24190537
PSP.

>>24190562

This pleases me. Kotomine is one of my favorite characters in fiction.

But yeah, we kind of killed NC's thread, huh?

>>24190578
>>24190580
EMULATION AHOY!

>>24190578
PS2 version never got an NA release. Only the PSP port, over the Store. And it's no longer on there, as of May 30, 2012.

>>24190578
>>24190580
Also arcade cabinets.
Only PSP port came out in America, though.

And Melty Blood is a better fighting game anyway.

>>24190583
He said he was going to class, thats why this whole thread went into a tangent anyways

>>24190553
Threads autosage at 300 posts. We still got a ways to go.

I'm just highly amused that the Nasu mages and the Potterverse wizards were so damn successful at being secretive they never even realized the other eixsted.

>>24190583
he said he wasn't gonna be back for a while. Classes, so give it about 3-4 hours, maybe 5

>>24190604

I know that.

>>24190607

I feel the timeline fuckery from Arturia's wish may have something to do with it.

>>24190603
>And Melty Blood is a better fighting game anyway.
Agreed.
Melty Blood is fuckin' bitchin', and I want official English releases god dammit! I WANT to give you my jewgolds Type-Moon, I really do, but you make it impossible!

>>24190618
Why would that have anything to.....

wait....
Her wish was for someone else to rule right? what if the grail chose Merlin?

And he set up a new type of magic. then didnt tell them about the other. for shits and giggles?

>>24190657
See>>24187931

>That was back when England didn't have a strong tradition of gender equity dating back to the 800s, and when Mallory's Le Morte d'Arturia was the Le Morte d'Arthur.

She apparently went back and did it all over again, knowing what she did wrong. And she didn't pretend to be a man this time around.

>>24190657
That does sound like something that fucking bastard would do.
Especially since OP has read Robe and Wizard Hat. So if we're dealing with THAT Merlin it's even more likely.

>>24190681
Actually, that's because Kiritsugu wasn't affected by the change in the timeline and still remember what Saber wished for. There's no indication anybody else knows.

>>24190681

I just realized this all means Shirou is living a completely normal life in Fuyuki with his real parents. Good for him.

>>24190696
Robe and Wizard hat?
I'm sorry but I've only started to browse tg recently, quest-scum and whatnot

>>24190752
unless Fate/Stay again has any influence, then Shirou's a demon and doesn't exist

>>24190752
ADOPTED BY KOTOMINES

>>24190779

I am also okay with this, hair aside SHIROU KOTOMINE has me pretty excited for those pinkos to translate more of Apocrypha.

>>24190759
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6859461/1/I-Put-On-My-Robe-And-Wizard-Hat
Read and REJOICE!
I could throw up an ebook version if you want

>>24190803
Ah, Robe and Wizard Hat.
I really should hate you for being lolrandom, but /b/tard Shirou is just so much fun.

>The blue haired lancer raised an impeccably refined eyebrow over crimson eyes. Which was blue. He stood above Shirou in his skin tight suit.

>Which was also blue.

>"Are…are you some kind of religious fanatic who's going to gut me and wear my skin to commune with the immortal spirit of Rei Ayanami or something?" Shirou babbled.

>Oh yes. His brain really went places when he was stressed out. Stupid places.

>However, unlike the flagrantly rude question would suggest, Shirou continued to look up at Lancer with wide eyes. Eyes which were clear of mocking while he stared up at the older man.

>The older man, Cú Chulainn or the Heroic Spirit Lancer, just continued to gape at the young man with a look of profound confusion.

>Shirou went from nervous to a full blown anxiety attack, thinking this silence meant a confirmation.

>"Oh god, just don't flash Rei-chan at me!" He wheezed out in a high pitched voice, holding his hands up to try and prevent the sight from potentially being burned onto his retinas. "I don't want to see Rei-chan!"

>The legendary hero of renown and timeless antiquity, merely continued to stare at the Japanese youth for a few more moments in silence.

>Shirou felt his hope rise. Was he going to be spared the Rei?

>The redhead began to relax from his mission critical levels of stress when no angry shouts, furious punches, or sharp, pointed denouncements as to the moral integrity, and positions favored by his mother followed.

>Perhaps…just perhaps Shirou was wrong? Besides the potential dead end of having several feet of steel shoved into him, this man didn't seem to be that bad. Certainly not bad enough to be accused of believing in Rei Ayanami as the next Messiah.

>That was crazy talk, after all. Yuki Nagato was the next Coming, after all.

>>24190842

/b/ is just tits and scams man, Robe and Wizard Hat Shirou is an /a/non who developed the ability to leave his room.

>>24190799
They translated some of it . Apparently shirou manages to fight of vampire mode vlad with his Keys

>>24190902

Brb, reading.

>>24190902
Wait WHAT.

What is this, and where can I read it?

>>24190920
>>24190944
i think he's referring to some spoilers that were posted on 2ch.

Spartacus gets killed by Vlad after assaulting the enemys camp solo

Shakesphere impersonated his master and convinced him to to do it (Gives him a speech about oppression , shakes thought that because of spartacuses EX endurance he was the most likely to survive IE the main character)

Karna + Siggy have an offscreen fight that ends in a draw.

Sems NP is a giant floating fortress that her team is living in.

Theres more i just can't remember

>>24190892
>an /a/non who developed the ability to leave his room
Truly his might is unparalleled.

>>24191027

I was hoping Spartacus wouldn't just be C-list fodder. Maybe he will go down memorably, at least, Fate properties tend to do those moments well.

I hate Heavens Feel worst route in the game.

Fate with the new ending is the most heart warming and feels worthy route every. UBWs good ending is also fucking awesome

>>24191207
Surpirisingly enough in CCC Sakura is in fact the best girl.

It's occurred to me, shouldn't we have given Harry the "To be a magus is to walk with death." line before starting his training?

>>24191320
nah, kid's smart he'll figue it out.

>>24191320
I think Harry's answer would be something like "Well no shit Mr. Einzbern, my origin is Death. I've poked death with a stick to see what would happen."

>>24191087
Spartacus will be C list fodder because he doesn't have legion of sycophantic nobels upholding his obviously bullshit story to make themselves look better, like 99% of the 'heroes' from Fate. Being able to sentence the medieval equivalent of investigative reporters to death has perks after all.

>>24191429
Literally, even. That's how he cut off Remus' tail, by poking its death with a stick.

[Posting from my phone cause my computer's battery is dying and I forgot my charger. Class is for another hour, and then roomie's birthday stuff. If this thread is still alive ~11 EST, we'll continue.]

>>24191706

Way things are going, we may well be in autosage. Oh well, do what you need to do.

>>24191706
In the future, try running quests when you know you'll have time to finish a thread, or at least put several hours into it. 2 hours really isn't enough for a quest thread.
That said, I await your return, even though the thread will most likely be dead by then.

>>24191806
>>24191782
Oh, well now that I've checked...
>208 posts and 10 image replies omitted
On the front page. Thread will probably last at least 5 hours, even if no one posts.

>>24191706
I don't think anyone would object if you started a second thread to keep going.

>>24191868

Indeed, though the archive will get distended, not that anyone will notice compared to, say 105 threads of Blatant Fetish Quest.

>>24191429
>"Well no shit Mr. Einzbern, my origin is Death. I've poked death with a stick to see what would happen."
Wait, I missed a thread or two. Is Harry's origin really Death?

>>24192446
Fuck yeah. That's why he has Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.
Here's the 'chive so you can catch up:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Harry%20Potter%20Nasuverse%20Quest

>>24192446
Yep, death. It gave us MEoPD.
I would have preferred infinite Library Archives, but oh well.

>>24190354
>Um, what were you expecting?
You know, the usual setting things. Multiple different sympathetic factions, a history of the world, interesting areas and people, no good guys, flora and fauna, little bits of fluff....
You know, the things that bring a world to life.

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>>24189189
>No. No. We're not doing this. No info dumps.

So Harry Potter's world is another kind of magic that lives nested within the Nasuverse?

Oh fuck the hell yes.
>>24190184
I've heard folks describe it as The Classic World of Darkness, occasionally pepper with the weirdness of Unknown Armies side-story elements, and fashioned by anime stereotypes.

>>24189147
Magecraft is pretty much this, yeah. It's stuff which is weird by most 'normal'/muggle standards, but is still 'possible' (Lightning is possible according to the laws of physics, so being able cause lightning to shoot from your fingertips is also possible.)

(Yes, I know that's not how it works. This shit would be so much clearer if Nasu were scientifically literate and knew how physics worked, but fuck it. Just handwave it.)

True Magic is pretty much stuff which is defined as impossible. AFAIK, there are only a handful of things which fall into this category: making Something From Nothing, Time Travel, Teleportation, Visiting Parallel Universes, and Creating/Transplanting the Soul. Some folks can attempt this, but they still don't fully get it.

Note: While we say there are Five remaining True Magics according to the wiki/ TATARI on byehost, the only English sources are questionably translated side materials published by a vague and possibly insane Japanese man. Take with a grain of salt.


Note:The Type Moon Wiki has a touch of a reputation of fanwank. While not a bad place to start, better information can be found on TATARI

http://tatari.byethost33.com/

>>24192472
>>24192634
Oh god I was the guy who made the joke of Harry Nanaya in thread 1. I can't believe this is happening.

>>24192806
Actually, normal people can artificially create lightning. We have been since the late-19th/early-20th century.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJqoRaphiEk

>>24189189
>Tell him to do his own damned research.

Good lord, if Kerry wasn't a family man he might have to purge these ignorant dolts on principle, I mean holy shit.

Also, HOW DID I MISS TWO WHOLE THREADS? Does OP wait for the INSTANT I decide to sleep to start these or something?

>>24192946
I mean more the "I shoot it from my fingertips to create a dramatic, devastating attack because I jimmy the Laws of Nature." Everyone who ever got static shock in the winter has technically generated lightning, but that's not on the scale on which that makes for an awesome fight scene is very different.

Nasu doesn't know how physics works in a detailed manner and his justification of "It's allowed by the laws of nature, so it is possible!" doesn't hold up when you do the math on how much energy a human would have to generate in/around their body to produce a nice, satisfying lightning-strike like a Hollywood special effect, but like I said, just handwave it. The wizards say they can generate flame in their hands because flame is a natural phenomena, so by golly they can do it.

There's a weird marriage of the belief-based paradigm, too. Certain styles of Magecraft don't work in certain regions of the world. This isn't due to a caster's proximity local leylines and other energy sources, but because to their magical school's philosophical system. (Apparently, Taoist magecraft runs on different principles than European magecraft, and so the the two schools aren't compatible. Dn't quote me on this, but reading the KnK novels and replay FSN kind of tipped me off to some of this.

Let's not even get into the non-humans in the setting and their powers (like how Arcueid's Marble Phantasm is less powerful in populated areas because "they're less natural" or some shit. Fucking Nasu, why do your worlds have to be as convoluted as they are cool!)

>>24193063
I know, I just discovered this by checking suptg earlier and seeing a new quest about Emiya Kiritsugu's daughter watching The Princess Bride. OP should consider getting a Twitter for this sort of thing.

Also, good on /tg/ Kerry is an operator, and knows how to not spill the beans

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>>24193235
>Kerry is an operator, and knows how to not spill the beans

>>24193235
"It's allowed by the laws of nature, so it is possible!" doesn't hold up when you do the math on how much energy a human would have to generate in/around their body to produce a nice, satisfying lightning-strike like a Hollywood special effect

Thats true, but if you had enough time, money, and science know-how you COULD construct a machine to replicate the effect, however inefficient it may be.

>>24193366
Point taken.

I guess I just wanted to rag on Nasu's weirdly shoddy definition of 'natural' and how it makes my inner scientist cry.

Polite sage due to natter

>>24193327
>Various glocks
>Moist nuggets
>Tactical cocaine
10/10 picture.

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>>24193327
>Tactical cocaine
Literally dying here

>>24192700

Well, those all exist, for certain. There isn't, say, a Nasuverse dictionary I could point you to, but the basics of the universe and its rules along with most of the major factions and players are detailed across several different works and the occasional appendices or creator comment.

So, just...how long ago did Kiri win the Grail War?

And has he come into contact with any other Magi in that time?

Because I have the horrible feeling that Arturia's wish completely changed the very foundations of magical society.

>>24193822

This is my hypothesis as well.

>>24193822
Sir, do you mean to say that kiritsugu and iri are the only practitioners of SCIENCE!! magic as opposed to bulshitius wandwavius magic?

>>24193882
Quite probably, yes.

In other words Kerry has most likely just dropped a 100-pound dire wolf, himself, into a box of kittens, the Potterverse.

>>24192700
>>24193570
>There isn't, say, a Nasuverse dictionary I could point you to,
http://tatari.byethost33.com/fuyuki/index.htm

Browse away, good folk! It is fairly comprehensive, though some of the translations read a little weirdly without context (I want to smack a mage everytime I read the words "phantasmal races")

>>24193822
How does this imply this? I thought Arturia's wish would have merely rewritten Briton's history, not reshaped the metaphysical buildingblocks of reality itself.

how does this work?

>>24193912
and he's teaching us magic.

This will be FANTASTIC

>>24193917
>how does this work?
merlin getting more bored than usual?

Merlin and Zelretch being drinking buddies for a few weeks?

>>24193917
Not to mention it shouldn't have any impact on anything that happened before her rule, like Crimson moo--

...Actually... When did Crimson Moon come to earth?

>>24193917
>how does this work?
Merlin actually setting a good example for others rather than being a perverted jackass.

Do remember that he's one of the most important figures in Potterverse history.

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>>24193959
Never been specified, but he had to have been dead before Arc was born, because pic related. And she was fully grown 800 years ago when she turned Roa.

>>24193959
>>24193997
I don't think we'll get a good answer if we somehow get the chance to ask Zeltrech either.

>The man shrugs. "Eh. I stopped keeping track of dates a while ago."

>>24193822
>>24193840
>>24193882
>>24193912
>>24193935
But Zelretch is our math teacher, so-
Wait.
Zelretch is master of the Second Magic, so he could still show up just to fuck with the locals.
Shit.

>>24193997
Hmmm... I just realized My mental timeline of the Nasuverse is all kinds of inconsistent and wrong. I thought Zelretch killed Crimson Moon 200 years ago after stopping moonfall, but that can't be right because of what you said, as well as Zelretch also helping out with making the grail war around the same time...

Excuse my while I go to >>24193917's link and try to learn what the fuck happened.

>>24194038
>so he could still show up just to fuck with the locals.
and Magical Girl Hermione indicates hes is doing just that.

Harry potter and the Clusterfuck of the Century

>>24194038
I assume his magic would have to work in whatever universe he's in, meaning he'd be limited to world where Nasuverse magic applies. He couldn't pop into, say, the LotR universe unless it was a LotR/Nasuverse crossover, because Magic Circuits aren't a thing there.

/tg/ - The Metascience of Crossovers.

>>24194038
Now here's a question: if Math Teacher Zelretch the local one, or from the original timeline? And if clock tower does exist, Is there one there as well?

>>24194140
>Magic Circuits aren't a thing there.
Given that magic circuits only matter to the one casting spells (with a few exceptions) I don't see why his circuits wouldn't be teleported with him

>>24194038
Zelrecht is one of the most powerful living human beings in existence and no one can fucking stop him. Rather than being a malicious shitheel, though, he just fucks around with his god-tier magic and uses what's left of his immense cosmic power sightseeing parallel worlds and being a mercurial (though polite) jackass.
He is the Nasuverse's equivalent of Doctor Who, if the Doctor were Chaotic Neutral and a vampire.

>>24194029
I'd imagine him being the kindly grandfather type who'd give you a cryptic riddle with a bullshit answer to make you work harder until you achieved what you needed to achieve.

"You want to know how long ago it was since Crimson Moon died? Why should I jut give you the answer and give you the easy way out? Now, that Granger girl, she's got access to the Forbidden Library...."

And then the next novel, Harry Potter and the Rod of Many Worlds, is written.

>>24194124
I try not to think too hard about timelines in this. I seriously doubt Nasu has a well-maintained timeline going for the entire Nasuverse, and he wrote the damned setting. I think he just goes on "this happened in the past, don't bother me with details. Now shut up and eat your seafood."

>>24194140
>>24194195
To be fair, most Mages use magic energy (aka prana) from outside their bodies (mana) and only in the direst of situations use the internal stuff (Od).

If Zelrecht visit a world where magic is caused by making deals with spirits, then the prana-from-outside breaks down.

>>24194397
>If Zelrecht visit a world where magic is caused by making deals with spirits, then the prana-from-outside breaks down.
>Implying he can't get Prana from other worlds
Rin does it with her copy of the Jeweled Sword.

>>24194397

(AFAIK, he also has a macguffin that allows him to drain prana from alternate realities and thus makes him OP-as-fuck, but that's another matter.

Zelrecht can only travel to Possible Worlds (to use a philosophical term), i.e. he can't travel to a world in which it is impossible (as defined by said world's laws of physics/magic/whatever) to receive visitors from other worlds. If we assume that alternate realities are splitting off from every possible event, then for every world which Zelrecht wants to leave his, is another world where he never does this. Likewise, for every world Zelrecht visits, there is a spin-off one where he never visits.

And so, while there are infinite possible worlds, only a fraction of these (an infinite subset of a larger infinite set) can ever be interacted with in any meaningful way.

And that, boys and girls, is why magic should be reserved for solving practical problems such as OH SHIT A WEREWOLF COMING AT ME KILL IT NOW

>>24194458
I get the feeling you could troll Zeltrech pretty hard if you pointed this out to him, leaving him desperately trying to get to worlds with the trait 'Zeltrech never visited' without making them 'Zeltrech never visited BUT THEN HE DID' for a good few years.

I also have the feeling that someone's already done this so it wouldn't work anymore.

>>24194522
Out-trolling Zelrecht? We should save this for our end-game

>>24193882
>>24193912
I don't think this tracks, because they've referenced the Clock Tower a few times, which is pretty much the central pillar of organized Nasuverse Magecraft.

If Kerry had accidentally catapulted himself into the Potterverse, the Clock Tower wouldn't be a thing.

>>24194847
>If Kerry had accidentally catapulted himself into the Potterverse, the Clock Tower wouldn't be a thing.
unless he didn't REALIZE he was sent to another 'verse.

Unless Kiritsugu has taken some more jobs killing people for them.

In which case a GLORIOUS CLUSTERFUCK AWAITS

>>24194884
This.

Alternately he's been taking jobs from Zeltrech, who is part of the Clock Tower IIRC.

>>24194522
>>24194634
I'm gonna have to vote against doing anything like this. If we successfully trolled Zelretch, the instant he realised that we'd trolled him would be the moment our lives would not be worth living any more. You do not fuck with the master of the Second.

>>24194847
I think the implication is that BOTH societies exist, but both are paranoid as fuck about the Normals figuring it out. Which, incidentally, keeps the other society from noticing, since they both are forced to assume that anyone who isn't THEIR kind of mage is just a regular dude.

Interestingly, this means there has probably been at least one instance of a magus and a wizard falling in love with what they THOUGHT was a regular old boring person, and eventually breaking the news to them that yes, their beloved is a WIZARD, only to be told that they are ALSO a wizard, but a different kind.

Odds are equally good that any families that resulted from this kind of union have decided to just keep this clusterfuck on the downest of lows to avoid both groups coming down hard on them.

>>24194969
Which raises the pressing question of how Hogwarts is going to react the first time Malfoy tries to bully us and we break him with our magically enhanced kung-fu fists.

>>24195004
You're suggesting we would do anything that could be traced to us. When he pisses us off (as he inevitably will) we'll do something like wait for his guard to be down and sneakily dotstab his wand.

>>24195004
>Kerry teaching us
>implying they can detect us
>Implying we'd be overt
>Laughing TrueAssasinanndCarboardBox.gif

>>24194969
I honestly would not be surprised.

Both the Potter folks and the Clock Tower have their heads sufficiently up their own arses that the IDEA of there being some other secret magic society they did not know about would just be ABSURD.

I would not be surprised if the Church knew though.

>>24195025
>dotstabbing his wand
Year two: His daddy buys the Slytherin team those fancy brooms. So we dotstab them.
Year three: Buckbeak is scheduled to be executed. So we dotstab the axe.
Year four: Triwizard Cup puts us up against a dragon. Which we dotstab.
And so on and so forth. Dotstabbing fixes everything. Like dickstabbing in TRoS

>>24195025
>>24195187
man, can we try not to kill harry that quickly?
Our Eyes are only rank E, and if they're like Tohno's we can't turn them off and cause brain damage the more complicated deaths we see. Dots are probably rank C or something

>>24194969
>I think the implication is that BOTH societies exist, but both are paranoid as fuck about the Normals figuring it out.

This is my default assumption as well. Still, another thought experiment won't hurt, and I kind of like trying to cook up alternate realities from the implications of a given historical event.

The idea of a Magus/Wizard hybrid is offly interesting, actually. I read up a bit on Kingsley Shacklebolt (I have NO idea who half of the Potterverse names are; I stopped reading after Book 4), and found that human-magical critter hybrids are surprisingly common. Half-giants, half-veela half-goblins - there's a surprising amount of interbreeding. (HP wizards are closer to /tg/'s ideals than we ever realized)

I think a Nasu-Magus/HP-Wizard cross could function quite well, if discretion is kept.

>>24195025
Hoo boy! This would be DELICIOUS!

>>24195050
I want to see the Church's reaction to this.

Shit, the last pope had his knickers in a twist over the fact that the Harry Potter novels existed; I wanna see Nasu-pope's opinion on actual HP-wizarding society.

I'm having visions of an old man having a shit-fit over this, and sending in his black-ops (Read: Executors) in to investigate.

A week later, the house-elves start bitching about how in the fuck their curry reserves got depleted so quickly...

>>24195187
This was a major fear. now, Harry here doesn't have Demon hunter BS physical skills, and I'd imagine abusing Killing Eyes starts to impact harry's health badly, so he has to be judicious. Still... I wanna see us wreck malfoy's shit with judicious dot-stabs to his precious toys

>>24195248
>and I'd imagine abusing Killing Eyes starts to impact harry's health badly
Well, as I posted in the last thread I'm 99% sure thats a quirk specific to Shiki(male)'s eyes because he's 'faking' it so to speak. His Eyes come from understanding death in his brain rather than actually being the Eyes, which is what fucks him up.

Also the Eyes can be turned off if you got them legit.

>>24195038
>"Aha Potter, the golden snitch shall soon be mi-"
Time alter, double accel
>How the fuck did you get over here so quickly?

>>24195749
We're not Kiritsugu's kid, we can't receive his Crest, which means no Time Alter for us.

>>24195782
...clearly, we must make Kiritsugu ten again

>>24195797
>[Illya's not on her way to getting Time Alter].
There was a reason old man Acht let him take the family name. Cadet branches are wonderful things.

So I guess the main question is, are we going to Clock Tower or Hogwarts?

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>No. No. We're not doing this. No info dumps.
>Tell him to do his own damned research.

You don't take your gun off the large african man, but you do take a hand off of your gun to reach into your jacket's pocket. You pull out a box of cigarettes, a special type, hand rolled in Singapore by a magus you used to be pals with. A single tap pops one of them out far enough for you to grab it with your teeth. Iri will probably have words for you later, but it's been a long fucking day, and you've finally found some answers.

You snap your fingers, and a little flame leaps from your thumb, lighting the tip. Kingsley looks just a bit more relaxed - you suppose that demonstration was enough for him. At least you don't have to go swimming through stone; that mystery is never pleasant.

"Yeah, I'm a magus," you tell him, "And if you're a magus, you should know the price of privileged information." You take a drag. "Blood, tears, and bribes."

"Ain't that the truth," he says. "Lot's of things seem privileged about you, Mr. Kiritsugu. Wandless Magic is quite an impressive skill for a wizard the Ministry doesn't know about."

"You pick things up here and there," you deadpan.

"Aye, that you do," Shacklebolt say. "Like carrying a spare wand in a wrist holster, incase you get disarmed."

He gestures at you with another one of those sticks.

"So..." He questions.

"So." You nod.

"Do you mean any harm to Mr. Potter?" He asks.

You...
>Inform him of your relationship with the kid as Teacher and Student.
>Inform him that the kid's relatives mean him more harm than you do.
>Ask him if he means your family any harm. You both already know the answer.
>Tell him to drop the stick, you're the one asking questions.
>[Other]

>>24195854

>Ask him if he means your family any harm. You both already know the answer.

It's what Kerry would do.

>>24195854
>Inform him of your relationship with the kid as Teacher and Student.
>Inform him that the kid's relatives mean him more harm than you do.

We're the pragmatist. If the truth can help avoid a fight, let's take it.

>>24195854
>Inform him of your relationship with the kid as Teacher and Student.
And our daughter likes him. So does the wife. therefore we like him.

>>24195884
>Inform him that the kid's relatives mean him more harm than you do.
>Ask him if he means your family any harm. You both already know the answer.

>>24195894
Second

>>24195884
>Inform him that the kid's relatives mean him more harm than you do.

If he's aware of Harry's circumstances (which he seems to be), he'll know exactly what we're talking about.

Don't want to give away that we're turning Harry into Magus Killer 2.0.

>>24195884
>Inform him of your relationship with the kid as Teacher and Student.
>Inform him that the kid's relatives mean him more harm than you do.

>>24195844
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgk-lA12FBk

>>24195884
[]other
My wife and daughter like him. his relatives hate him. Surely you can do basic addition

>>24195928

If we have to choose, Clock Tower, because I want to see Harry Potter meet Waver.

>>24195948
This.

>>24195884
>>Inform him that the kid's relatives mean him more harm than you do.
Never share more than we need to, and it'll be worth it to see how they deal with Vernon and Petunia's blatant abuse.

>>24195884
>[Other]
>>24195948
This.

>>24195952
And our Snape equivalent can be Fast Wheels Kayneth.

I wonder is he still alive in this timeline?