>>24406353
Guess we could spend some time playing with Alison if she's still awake enough to want to do so.

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>>24406353
Let's suggest to her that she builds up it's intelligence. Challenge her to make it smarter than Gaviscon.

Then play with Ali.

>>24406353
Make sure she's trying to actually improve it, and not just squish its brain like putty. Tell her to try to make it smarter.

>>24406353
"Have fun Selene, be careful and be sure to tell me all about what you did with him later."

Show Alison all the different rooms in the Tower, play with her some, introduce Lin and Alison and then fob Alison off on Liz so they can have some bonding time.

>>24406436
Oh and tell her not to make Gav dumber, that's cheating.
Although I don't think you can drop his mind any lower.

>>24406476
You could easily make him mindless.

>>24406467
Are people really still being bitchy about quests? Disgraceful.

>>24406504
Please report and ignore. No need giving them what they want.

>>24406504
It's just kind of standard now, a thread will start, and some guy will come in and make a saged comment as if it achieves anything.

>Months later
>Selene and Alison watch a TV show about the traditional family
>Ask Max why their family is different
>Max tries to explain that their family is special
>They ask why they don't have a daddy in their family
>Max explains that she has a dick
>Pulls out anatomy textbook to help explain the differences
>They ask to see Max's dick
>They start touching it and fondling it
>They like the smell, the texture
>They start to nuzzle it

>she finds fap's lv1 mind boring
We could upgrade its mind further

Anyways... morality. We would have to further reinforce the "what is right and what is wrong" things with her as well as explaining how things are...
This also means getting Max a consistent morality view on mind magics. Obviously we will be discussing that with dad and liz but ultimately I am guessing its up to posters to actually cobble it together (due to the work involved not due to protagonist centered morality).
It does have to be consistent so its less us deciding and more us explaining what we have already been doing.

Additionally, we can go over SOME of the "categories" first and leave explaining others for later. Or we can explain in lower detail and then get more clear later.

Lets start by listing what we have and what we have done to them.
Constructs: Fap, gaviscon
- we built their minds from scratch
- we explained they are just property and owner can do with their mind what they will
- focus on the "artificial mind created for a task" when discussing ethics.
- Of course we aren't going to be mean to them though despite that (because torturing small animals is the first step towards becoming a psychopath)

Animals/very simple minds/Non sophont: Rats, Water dragon
- have very simply minds
- can be treated like constructs

cont.

Children: Alison
- Even though their minds are simple, they are going to grow up
- its healthiest if their minds grow on their own
- treat them like people (see future categories).

Simple adult minds: Breakfast
- Breakfast has a simple mind but she isn't like the animals/constructs. Her mind was messed up by enchantment and we are trying to fix it.
- Can be used as an example of the danger of enchantment (without technically lying)

Servants: Breakfast, Lunch
- Not sure if ready to broach this topic yet. Did she find out about our history? When we do get to it though use the following...
- Sometimes people try to hurt our family. To protect our family we have to hurt them back.
- If you have to you kill to protect your family, but sometimes you instead defeat them without killing. When that happens the nice things is to make a few changes in their mind so they are not your enemies anymore.
- Don't be mean to them / hold a grudge, now they are beloved pets.
- Don't tell them about how you didn't use to be friends or go discussing their past, that would be mean.

Family/natural friends: Dad, Max, Liz, Lin, Grandma, Selene, Alison
-Did you know that Max never went into the minds of any of those?
-Yes, max has the power to enter their minds and change things but that would be wrong, you don't do that to family.
-more (suggestions from other posters please).

>>24406571
And then Alison dares Selene to wrap her tongue around it, her tongue is already a foot long and she isn't even fully grown, imagine the blowjobs, just imagine them.

>>24406611
>blowjobs
pffffft
Imagine the rimjobs

>>24406572
>>24406585
This is incredibly convoluted and will only cause problems down the line when she starts seeing the gray between the borders. Try and actually explain to her the concepts of right and wrong rather than program her like an automaton.

>>24406652
We are already sexualizing a toddler and a newborn, so I dont see why morality matters.

>>24406672
I chose to imagine that any talk of Selene and Alison in a sexual way refers to them when they are all grown up.

>>24406672
Regardless of if we're good or bad, giving her an actual sense of right and wrong will let her make intelligent decisions on her own. Also, I don't see any sexualization of Selene and Alison. I see two posters having idle fantasies.

>>24406672
well if we didn't have morals we're no better than Nemesis.

>Selene is vampire lord + incubus semen + half incubus
>Max is half incubus
>Selene will be the most powerful at mind fuckery in the house.
>Remember apple getting possessive and passive aggressive? Imagine a master of mind fuckery doing that
>Max becomes exclusive with Selene.

>>24406652
>This is incredibly convoluted and will only cause problems down the line when she starts seeing the gray between the borders. Try and actually explain to her the concepts of right and wrong rather than program her like an automaton.
1. This is explaining the concepts of right and wrong. You can't just say "do right, don't do wrong" you have to define what is right and what is wrong.
2. What I posted is not my own moral code but what max has been doing thus far, what Liz and Dad approved of, and what max has already taught Selene.
3. Its not convoluted at all, its a simple and straightforward breakdown of our actions thus far and the moral justifications behind them... pertaining only to mind magics.
4. Please actually provide specific input and corrections.

>>24406672
Assume that all sexualization is towards their hypothetical future selves, currently Selene and Alison are just adorable, but in time they will be adorably hot, and fucking will ensue.

>>24406732
I wish you'd stop turning all of your posts into massive lists and multi-post essays.

It really makes everything you say seem tl;dr.

>>24406645
Femcock doesn't seem to like anal stuff all that much sadly.

>>24406732
You obviously don't know much about children. If you just lecture at them for ages they will lose interest and everything you say will be wasted.

We give Selene the basics, then if she asks questions about our past actions and such, we explain ourselves.

do we need to teach our girls that they must "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law without contradiction."?

>>24406645
>rimjobs
>Selene hates how more things taste
like that would ever happen

>>24406776
You obviously don't know anything about reading.
Because I explicitly did not say to just "lecture" her about the above. Rather I explicitly said we need to get a consistent view that we will reinforce over time when appropriate.
And to get that we need to start out by listing what we already did/our justifications

>>24406755
>Only two nights in Liz milks our prostate in the middle of the night
>We get her a feel doe so she can peg us

What?

>>24406805
>more
that should be most

>>24406732
There is no need to specifically go into every single person's situation to get across to her the concept of personal agency, and the respect it entails. Make her understand that digging in the minds of people who aren't trying to hurt her is wasteful, irresponsible, and wrong, and you solve everything in many less words.

>>24406755
To be honest, anything involving anal outside of perfectly idealized fantasies is quite dirty. Fingers and dildoes are one thing, but tongues and bareback dick are a completely different territory that carries a lot more complications.

>>24406808
Sorry, but your way of posting is just really boring. I just tend to skim over it. You really need to learn to be more concise.

>>24406837
>Tell her to respect people's mind and not dig in them
>Give her a pet mouse to mindbreak and toy with, tell her its ok to do whatever she wants with Fap.
So, why can't she toy with Alison's mind or Breakfast?

Also, keep in mind that she is going to become extremely sexually possessive of us and more powerful in enchantment then us.

>>24406925
There's a difference between your sister and a mouse. A mouse that would have just been used to alchemy experiments.

If you don't get that then just stop, nobody will take you seriously.

>>24406925
For Alison it's because it's her Sister, and she might fuck her development up, along with the standard gamut of concerns about mindfucking, for Breakfast it's because she's an amateur and could easily mess something up in Breakfast's head, not that I have any objection to altering her mental state.

It's a rat, we were planning on seeing what happened if we turned its endocrine system upside down, now it's a practice tool for Selene, it's an animal, not a person.

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>>24406799
Let me restate in a form that might more suite those unused to Kantonese:

Selene and Liz in particular, but everyone in general might be well served by recognizing that respect for the free will (such as it is) of another rational being is something that must be respected. This does not rule out the possibility of submission, but such things are only meaningful when the sub chooses their domination. Mind dickery is a powerful tool, and has uses tha are both ethical and unethical.

Frankly, if we can fit the time into our busy schedule, Max might be well served to read some basic ethics articles, so as not to become a complete monster.

Not to say that we ought not to engage in all manner of glorious debauchery left and right, but there are ways to do these things without hurting or depersonifying others, and we ought to do so when possible.

>>24406925
Because that's a stupid slippery slope argument and you ought to know it. toys and mice don't have agency, Alison and Breakfast do. Are you incapable of seeing how a wooden chair and a human chair have different protocols for use? Or do you ask a sofa for permission before you park your ass on it?

>>24406925
>more powerful in enchantment than us
Where the fuck are you getting that idea from?

We already have 4 boxes of enchantment. 5 is the maximum anyone can ever get without being inducted into high circles of the Scholomance, which Selene never will.

>>24406925
>So, why can't she toy with Alison's mind or Breakfast?
Because fucking with Alison and Breakfast implies screwing with a sentient humanoid's mind, not a test lab rat that was going to die anyway, or a minor, borderline mindless elemental. It's a grey area to some degree, but to be perfectly blunt, we do not care about or value a rat or disposable elemental. Breakfast and Alison are family, and are valuable to us, both mechanically and sentimentally. This is not a hard thing to understand.

Anyways, I started out making a long list to see what we have done thus far and for consistency. Now I can pare it down very concisely to:
1. its ok to mess in minds of "not people"... as long as they are yours (gaviscon, water dragon, fap, rat)
2. People with simple minds are still people (breakfast, Alison)
3. Don't mess with minds of people unless they are trying to hurt you.

if it ever comes up that she notices we are messing with breakfast's mind the explaination is that we are fixing damage she got... Ideally we do it discretely.
we also already explained that children should grow "naturally"

>>24407042
And that needs ACTUAL EXPLAINING.

>>24407084
>And that needs ACTUAL EXPLAINING.
No, it really doesn't. Anyone who didn't grasp that immediately is too fucking stupid to bother paying any attention to in the first place.

>>24407000
>>24407020
>>24407031
>>24407038
>>24407042
Why are you assuming that a baby a few months old is just going to figure this out without it ever being explaining it to her?
And are opposed to actually explaining to her the difference between a person and an animal?
She has been fucking around with anyone's mind who should could get her hands on because we never explained it.
Giving an inadequate explanation now will easily result in more such situations.

>>24407113
Stupid or a newborn baby growing up in a house full of mind controlled slaves

>>24407147
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post >>24407038

You still haven't explained how Selene is going to be more powerful at Enchantment than Max.

>>24407084
>3.
Are you intentionally omitting the concent clause because she's young?

Also, we should get dad teaching her enchantment once/if he comes back from his vacation, I think he has a better handle on the magical community's version of the relevant ethics.

>>24407158
You seem to be confused.
The problem is that there are people in the thread who honestly don't get it.

>>24407038
>which Selene never will.
Why not?

MrTT, you are BY FAR the worst tripfag in this quest.

You are just pure tedium. Relentless, soul-crushing tedium. Fucking essays on hypothetical situations that are worthless because the scenarios are going to change anyway.
Reading your posts is like pulling teeth and eating them.

Your pseudo-intellectual, monotonous posts are just awful.
And the language barrier doesn't help.

>>24406744
>>24406702
Im sure. Thats why they had a childlike innocence in >>24406571

>>24407194
Because we really don't want our daughter attending Scholomance when we can teach her magic ourself, but on the other hand, Femcock made it clear before that Scholomance's archmages would sun-nuke anyone who got access to their high circle secrets without actually being a high circle student.

>>24407204
People can retain childlike innocence while being sexually mature.

Though the story isn't realistic, Selene already knows we have a dick and Alison will find out soon enough. They might get curious about it eventually though.

>>24407200
If you think this is bad, you should see his posts on tgchan.

>>24407200
I stand by my post on the subject in a prior thread.

An encounter with Snapple is like a diseased leper in a jesters hat jumping out in front of you, doing a little dance and shitting himself.

An encounter with MrTT is like a guy in a suit stepping out in front of you and demanding you do your taxes.

>>24407084
>And that needs ACTUAL EXPLAINING.
This is not a hard concept to explain to someone. Humanoids are intelligent, sentient creatures capable of making their own decisions using free and critical thinking. Rats cannot. Borderline mindless elementals cannot. That ability to think critically is called "Free agency".

Aggressively (defensively is another issue altogether) infringing on the free agency of another sentient being is almost universally seen as wrong. This is why it's wrong to kill people, rape people, steal their possessions, lock them in rooms for inordinate amounts of time, torture them until you change their behavior, and many other actions almost universally deemed as "wrong" by developed societies.

As far as enchantment magic goes, it's just an extrapolation of the infringement of free agency. We can modify ourselves without doing anything wrong because we willfully consent to our own desires to modify our minds. We can help others modify their minds because they consent, and it's still not wrong. Forcing consent through magic or not seeking it in the first place infringes on free agency and is seen as morally wrong.

All further deliberations on the matter, aside from conundrums, can be extrapolated from the kernel of the concept of free agency. Make her understand what a sentient being is, make her accept that ethical premise of respecting free will, and the rest should fall in place.

>>24407165
>3
>Are you intentionally omitting the concent clause because she's young?
Not me, others. I was told my version is too wordy and to make it as concise as possible.
That specific sentence (#3) is a direct quote of "the only thing we need to tell her about enchantment ethics ever" according to several people. So I took it and added points 1 and 2 for slight clarification to make it as concise as possible.

>>24407275
Of course its not a hard concept to explain to someone. But I am saying we should actually explain it and I am countered with "no we shouldn't because only a retard would not figure it out on their own". See >>24407113 where he explicitly makes that argument

>>24407265
An encounter with me is like another diseased leper in a jesters hat jumping out and trying to shit himself, but just kind of farting weakly and tripping when I try to dance.

>>24407158
I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing when we say 'mind control'. I basically use the term for entrallment and more direct mental control. Breakfast isn't really mind controlled at this point, dad pretty much annihilated her mind and cobbled together someone new from the remnants. Lunch I would consider mind controlled because we left her previous personality and memory intact, but force her to constantly repress them and obey an imposed set of mental commands. Personally I would have preferred to kill the personality instead of shackling it, but it has been useful so I'm not complaining. Anyway, a house with one mind controlled slave, not many.

What day of the week is it inquest?

I was looking forward to Alexander time.

>>24407356
I'm hoping we can go see him when we're done playing with Alison and have passed her on to someone else. I'd like to actually see Femcock do one of the lessons in-game, rather than just as timeskip background stuff.

>>24407375
Well, we've already had a 'lesson'.
Well, if you consider getting cockslapped with 15dice a lesson.

Maybe just a preliminary lesson. Tryouts.

Ok, we haven't had one.

>>24407333
Well, fair enough about breakfast. Although we are also going to get pierre according to the consensus in last thread (which I am still against). She is what, 2 months old? how many slaves will we have by the time she is an adult?
And how clear is she about fap and water elemental not being people? Technically she is a plant-elemental, just a really really advanced one.

>>24407407
She's a spirit, not an elemental. Spirits are sentient beings capable of sustaining themselves, elementals generally aren't.

>>24407406
That just makes me wonder if Alexander could beat us with nothing but his rock hard erection.
I bet he could

>>24407458
He just has to do a short hop while spinning.
It'd be like getting knocked with a piece of rebar attached sideways to a lathe.

>>24407458
>>24407503
Alexander Lee looked on as a young first circle Lotus attempted to ring the bell with her dick. While her attempt was feeble, he saw in her the potential for greatness, he would school her in his ways, and she too would complete the trial of the dickbell, as he had all those years ago.

>>24407440
I thought elementals are beings of spirit. Also, elementals sustain themselves, they just burn out from excessive power draw (aka, powering a ward by themselves).

Liz is currently working on an incubator that accelerates an elemental's growth until it becomes a person. (at which point she hypothesis that they stop leaking power and it will no longer be possible to accelerate growth using her current method). If an adult sentient elemental does leak power though then her incubator would work even on dad.

>>24407532
That made me smile like an idiot

>>24407532
10/10

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>>24407532
i am laughing so hard.

You decide that now would be as good of a time as any to take Alison all over the tower, showing her every room. You show her the almost-complete spirit forge. You let her look at all of the rats. You let her take a look at her old garden plot, and she gives you pleased looks as she examines her old pod; you think she's still proud of breaking free. You show her the sitting room, the bedroom, the storage room, and even the gym. You introduce her to everyone that she hadn't yet been formally introduced - including Lunch, who hung back during the introductions.

All in all it took you about a half hour, and Alison still seems alert and awake, examining everything she can with those sharp blue eyes of hers.

What do you do now?

>>24407634
Let's go to the Lotus sanctum and see if Alexander is up for beating the shit outta us.

>>24407634
Study more.

>>24407634
Toss her up in the air a few times and catch her, play with her some, tire her out a bit, then fob a slightly tired Alison off on Liz and visit the Lotus Sanctum.

>>24407634
Play with her a bit to tire her out, then leave her with Liz and head off to the sanctum.

>>24407634
What day is it?

>>24407687
It's the night of Tuesday, the 13th of November, 2012.

>>24407532
This was it. Alexander was the last line of defence between the wendigo and the huddle of scared orphans in the bunker behind him. He could see where the other mages had blasted away chunks of the beast's flesh with unfettered energies, the slightly pink flesh still raw from regrowth. It had carved its was through dozens of young men and women, and now he was the last one standing. There was nothing for it. He'd have to give it the D.

>>24407703
Let's go to the LS then. If Alex isn't up for some training, then we can meditate on sorcery with Carl, or just hit the bells, or see if anyone's there like Dane or Sanjay or older students.

>>24407730
Alexander Lee: Dick of Justice

>>24407730
He dropped down into the specialised stance he'd hoped never to use, shifting the middle of his body slightly forward from the rest. Gathering his chi and extending his hands forward, he tried to ignore just how fast the wendigo was closing the kilometers between them. The chi was now becoming a speartip, a potent shaft of searing potency. The wendigo was still coming.

He tried to ignore the consequences of failure. That to fail was to be torn limb from limb and eaten alive. That to fail here was to allow his soul to be tortured for all eternit. Worst of all, to here was to fail an entire generation of Lotus mages cowering some three kilometers behind him. The wendigo could smell them.

Now the beast was three hundred meters away and closing.

>cont'd

You play with her for a while, tossing her up in the air, teaching her simple hand games, that kind of thing. When she's finally good and tired out, you head on down to the bedroom to see if Liz is still awake, only to find it empty. You end up finding Liz hard at work on the spirit forge.

"Hey," you say to get her attention. "I'm about to head to the Lotus sanctum. Can you take care of this sleepy little snowflake?"

"Of course I can," says Liz, happily taking her from your arms and holding her to her shoulder. You see her get goose bumps from her cool flesh and the cold plushy. "You go ahead, I can handle the girls."

You head out then, running out into the perpetual night of the Scholomance.

Roll Body for free running. You get a +3 for Strength, a +3 for Speed, and a +2 for Coordination. I'll consider the first twelve linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 42

>>24407888
>lost in the dark

Rolled 28

>>24407888
Go go Power Rangers!

Rolled 1

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>>24407887
> The chi was now becoming a speartip, a potent shaft of searing potency

Rolled 41

>>24407888

Rolled 42

>>24407888

Rolled 34

>>24407888

Rolled 8

>>24407888
Oh god oh god

Rolled 90

>>24407888
Rolling.

Rolled 34

>>24407888
Run Max, Run!

Don't trip....

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>>24407888
>>24407915

Rolled 37

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Rolled 98

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>>24407936
Phew

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>>24407915
Fuuuuuuuuuck

>>24407936
>>24407930
>>24407915
Thank fuck for the 12th roll, we (just barely) succeeded.

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>>24407936
One success at the last second.

This some bullshit.

>>24407915
Huh, for once it wasn't me.

>>24407967
It was the 12th. Count again.

>>24407967
Recount, jackass.

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>>24407887
At this distance, Alexander could smell the gore matted into the wendigo's patchy fur, the only remainder of powerful mages who'd tried and failed before him. It was a powerful, grating stench that announced death and doom to those who dared oppose that which it heralded.

He tried to close his mind to it. Now the chi was visible in its concentration, a blinding point of sacred light in the middle of Alexander's figure. The effort of maintaining the stance under the pressure was starting to strain him. His arms shook slightly, taut and stretched out towards the wendigo like rock-hard steel cables. The D only worked on contact. There could be no margin for error here.

One fifty meters.

> cont'd

>>24408070
See Snapple, you are fully capable of writing a Librarian X Wendy scene.

>>24408070
>This is the closest I'll ever get to the Wend x Librarian smut I want
>This is so awesome

>>24407915
>>24407930
>>24407936
It's not your best run - not by any stretch of the imagination - but you make it there comfortably by avoiding all of the big obstacles. You slide on in through the red door, discarding your shoes by the inside of the door, among very few others. You head out onto the main floor of the sanctum and find it extremely sparsely populated. Carl is meditating in the center of the room. Two masters are speaking to each other quietly in one of the side rooms. And... Sanjay is working on something in the corner.

What do you do?

>>24408127
Look for Alexander.

If he's not there go see what Sanjay's doing.

And then when he acts lie a dick go meditate with Carl.

>>24408127
Bummer. Well, let's meditate for a while until Carl is free to talk. We should probably ask him about Archery Masters (if Alexander Lee isn't teach us that too?).

>>24408070
Now the bloodshot eyes of the Wendigo were visible in detail, the only still element of the heaving and pumping figure tearing up the landscape. Muscles like the fingers of God slid around underneath scarred skin, pulling and propelling the deceptively emaciated frame at speeds no mortal could ever hope to defend against.

One hundred meters.

The gore-splattered teeth were bared in the middle of a twisted mouth pulled back in a horrifyingly unhuman scream. Alexander only noticed it in absence as the wendigo pauses for a breath. The sheer length of the howl had blended it into the background.

Fifty meters.

> cont'd

>>24408127
Hmm, look around for Alex. Maybe meditate on stamina with Carl if we can't find him.

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>>24408199
Keep going motherfucker.

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>>24408127
Look for Alexander.

>>24408199
Pastebin pls.

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>>24408199
...Proceed.

>>24408127
See if you can see what Sanjay's doing. If not, chill and meditate I suppose.

>>24408199
Continue.

Ive been (just barely) following the plot of these threads, but I've had a random curiousity since reading about the backstory of the MC.

So, if Max found out he was half succubus while under the impression he was physically male, then has he developed more into a female role since then? Is there some kinda TG transformation stuff going down?

>>24408372
Max is a half-incubus girl. Not a half-succubus man.

>>24408372
You got that post backwards.

Max is a female incubus, not a male succubus.

>>24408372
Half-incubus, and genetically female actually.

>>24408372
Max is half incubus, not succubus. She's entirely female as far as genetics goes, the dick is magic. When she was younger the magic dick hormones outweighed her natural ones and she grew up as a male. Then the tits kicked in.

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So, this is what I think Wendi looks like, except more planty.

Close?

>>24408372
The situation you describe has been demonstrated by our classmate Sam. I'm sure some helpful anon could provide you with the relevant threads for what that entails.

>>24408441
I imagine that picture of Cuddles that Technomancer did.

You look around for Master Lee, but don't end up finding him. You do get a look at some of the rooms branching off of the main room that you had never really taken the time to examine before. The rock garden, the koi pond, rough-hewn stone pillars standing in a lake of mist, an ancient buddhist shrine, a stone room lit only by slowly smouldering sticks of incense - the Lotus sanctum has a lot of crazy shit in it, and most of it is completely unlocked. Still, you don't find Master Lee, and everyone you do find in the side rooms is meditating, working, or in quiet conversation.

You head back out into the main room. You look over Sanjay's shoulder. It looks like he's drawing some kind of swirling pattern on the paper.

"Yes?" he asks calmly. He doesn't sound angry, just, well, disinterested, you suppose?

"Nothing," you say, and are about to leave when he continues.

"It's a design for the rock garden. I want to have the privilege of raking it to help me better understand chi and other energy flows," he says.

"Oh," you say. "Cool."

He just nods. It seems like the conversation is over now. You head over to Carl.

"Max," he says, giving you that same placid, genial smile as always. "It's pretty late on a school night to be stopping in. What's up?"

What do you say?

>>24408441
Max's path is clear. She must get enough levels of Durability to survive a Wendi blowjob.

>>24408441
Needs a bigger mouth and much longer tongue. A

>>24408461
Dang, seems like Sanjay has gotten pretty chill.
Ask him about Alexander's schedule, and if he has any input on our superbow plan.

>>24408461
"We're Lotus, motherfucker, if we need more than two hour's sleep a night we're doing it wrong."

>>24408461
"Well, it's not like I need much sleep nowadays, so late nights are pretty common. I was wondering if you knew anyone who specialized in archery? I recently built a bow to take advantage of my new strength, and I'd like to find someone who can help me learn to use it more effectively."

>>24408461
"I wanted to see Master Alexander, but he doesn't appear to be here.

I suppose now I'm going to meditate for a while."

Ask him about augmenting our effective health-pool. (not durability, before you say it)

>>24408481
He was always chill.

>>24408500
Don't call Carl a motherfucker.

>>24408437
Ah, so she was a boy and then reverted to a chick?

I am interested in this Sam character and related info.

>>24408461
Ask him if he knows anyone who could help us with archery lessons for our new superbow.

Also, if there is a bow master to learn from, we should probably make sure that if we're learning from more than one master, they won't get annoyed at us.

>>24408519
>He was always chill.
He was an uppity dick when we first met him.

>>24408461
"Nothing much, I wanted to stretch my legs and I was wondering if Alexander was around to kick my ass. I don't sleep much so my schedule is kind of weird.

I never realized how many rooms were in this place.

I've been thinking of picking up archery, I made a bow recently but I'm not sure if I should ask Alexander about it or if there are some Zen Archers who would be better at teaching me that."

>>24408500
No. We aren't a nigger.

>>24408524
No, Max is female and has always been female. She just looked masculine enough growing up that, combined with the magical dick, everyone got confused

>>24408524
She was actually a chick all along but thought she was a boy pre-puberty because penis.

>>24408524
Basically. A half-incubus girl is a girl who has male genitals instead of female ones. They are mistaken for boys in their youth because young children tend to be fairly androgynous anyway, it isn't until puberty when secondary sexual characteristics start to show that it becomes obvious.

The same is true of a half-succubus male.

>>24408524
Hmm, how well did you read the opening 2-3 posts of thread 1?

>>24408524
She was never a boy. She just had a dick from birth, but because secondary sexual characteristics aren't in children, her mom had no clue.

>>24408524
No reversions, unless you are referring to mentality. She was always a chick with a dick, its just that there was no outwardly obvious physical difference between a chick with a dick and a guy until secondary sex characteristics set in.

>>24408545
>The same is true of a half-succubus male.
The inverse is true, rather.

>>24408524
Sam of course was raised as a guy with girl parts from birth, since he was raised by his succubus mother, who knew what he was.

Max's mother didn't realise until Max's puberty made it obvious.

How do societies handle the fact that enchantment can allow their secrets to be revealed?
For example if another student mind rips from me the lotus secrets I know?
And if I end up finding a secret of another society, should I erase it from my own mind to be safe? share it with the other lotus? depending on which society it came from?

>>24408524
Well technically Max was always a girl, but has male genitalia so she was assumed to be a boy for most of her life.

When she hit puberty and started growing tits and got a letter from Scholomance saying she was magic she went full tomboy, did a lot of martial arts, that sort of thing, but was still very much a girl, just one with astounding abs.

Sam is one of our friends, he's a half-succubus male, has a pussy, we've fucked on occasion, we don't know too much about his family life but I think it's been inferred that his Mother stuck around to raise him and tell him about what he was early, unlike our Dad who was locked up under a tower for our entire life.

>>24408575
Sam explicitly said he was raised by his mom, the succubus.

>>24408575
>locked up under a tower for our entire life.
He managed to get through five years of Scholomance before that happened, the guy ditched Max's mother to go study.

>>24408569
>How do societies handle the fact that enchantment can allow their secrets to be revealed?
Do you even read these threads? Look at what happened to Lunch.

>>24408524
I think thread 95 is the relevant one for Sam info. Check the archive, should be the one after the "protagonist returns to Paris" description

>>24408509
>Ask him about augmenting our effective health-pool
that would be really good IF we can get it

>>24408614
I know Lunch had a spell virus to PREVENT secret leaks. That's not how they react if a secret was leaked but how to prevent it in the first place.

On the other hand, pierre revealed to us a secret technique of the hand already.

Did carl plant a spell virus in max? Would he admit it?

>>24408598
He was locked up in the tower for 15 years. Max is 16. He was locked up sometime after he returned to scholomance after knocking up Max's mom during the holidays.

>>24408569
Conditional mind wipes, assassinations, forcing the student in question to drop out, retaliation against the enchanter. There's kind of a range of responses depending on the society. Carl cat-punches people.

>>24408598
He knocked up our Mom when he was on summer break from classes, he got locked up the year we were born, he never even knew about us until we found him.

>>24408640
>>24408598
Our dad impregnated our mom on break, and then returned to school without knowing she was pregnant. He then got locked up for 15 years.

>>24408635
I'm not sure Pierre actually revealed a DD technique though. It sounded like he took some basic principles he was given and told to build his own spell. Or maybe he's really that incompetent. Not sure on second thought.

>>24408640
>>24408655
You're right, I misremembered.

>>24408655
No, he got locked up a couple years later, but mom hadn't told him we existed at that point.

>>24408645
Yes...
I am also guessing that depending on the secret and the society in question, a society's archmage might choose to steal the knowledge and keep it even if it means war with another society.

And I want to know in particular what retaliation plan the lotus have in place, whether they use a mind virus, and carl's general advice on this prickly subject.

>>24408199
Now Alexander completed the stance, pulling back his core in preparation for the D. Feet planted in a horseriding position, hands outstretched towards the target, body hunching slightly over to maximise the push distance. The point of chi was now painful to look at, but the Wendigo was no longer bothered by trivial concerns such as pain or even the loss of limbs. Only total destruction would halt its rampage.

Twenty-five.

Now Alexander pushed forward with all the superhuman strength he could muster, a force capable of turning aside mountains in days compressed into milliseconds for a single stroke. His arms pulled back towards his waist, turning outwards and forming fists. His spine groaned as it was forced to arch the other way, thrusting the point of chi forwards faster than the brain could percieve.

Five.

The wendigo never showed fear or hesitation as it bore down upon the figure barely visible around the searing tip of light. It reached out towards Alexander's face, a whirling scythe of rending claws coming closer and closer to his eyeballs, the razor-sharp tips now inevitably moving towards desctruction-

Zero.

> cont'd.

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>>24408703
IT'S HAPPENING.

>>24408698
I think we'll have to wait for our probation to end to be told that. It's kind of a question that looks really bad to ask though..."Hey boss, if I happen to sell some company secrets to the competition what's the worst you'll do to me?" See what I mean?

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>>24408703
Here it comes.

"I don't need much sleep anymore," you tell him. He smirks at that. "I was wondering if you could suggest any archery masters? Maybe a master of zen archery?"

"Master Lee is usually who I suggest for that sort of thing," Carl says. "And he's who I suggest now too. No other Lotus has been so devoted to mastering their physical chi and its methods of expression as him. If you can't find him out and about, though, we have a few other zen archers - mostly of Japanese traditions. You'll get less practicality from them, but more martial arts as a form of meditation."

"I kind of figured that was the case," you say. "What's your specialty, anyway?"

"Oh, I dabble," he says with a gentle smile. "I think I'm a bit better at living alchemy than anyone else here, though."

What else do you talk about?

>>24408509
Absolutely nothing will affect your health pool other than increasing Body.

>>24408703
Ooh! The moment Alex was feminized has finally come!

>romantic ewkshm
Captcha's got it!

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>>24408703
Lord Vivec looks on in awe.

>>24408766

Ask him if there's a way to get good at living alchemy that wouldn't require a university level education for the fine work.

>>24408766
He surely knows that Dane taught us some.

Tips?

>>24408745
Maybe I misphrased it. I was speaking explicitly on us being mindraped and then murdered or kept as a slave and wondering what the retaliation the lotus would take against having their secrets stolen in such a manner. And also wondering whether they have mind viruses.

Also I was trying to lead from that to the subject of us finding the secrets of another society. For example, once we use the mind drill on lunch.

We can always ask dad for general info but I think only carl can tell us what he thinks about the secrets of another society... However this might be something that is not worth mentioning until it actually happens. That is, if we find such secrets then bring them up to carl and ask if we should erase them from our mind or share them with lotus.

>>24408785
>Lord Vivec
>The man who has raped multiple gods on multiple occasions and even taught the Demon Lord of Rape how to love by giving him a blowjob and accidentally created a race of demons from it
>in awe at such paltry dickings
He no doubt sends his approval, but dont kid yourself

>>24408832
Awe is not an inherently positive thing, you know. One can be awed by stupidity.

>>24408766
Ask him what he does in his spare time, we've never seen him not be here. If he has any hobbies.

Ask if he has any suggestions for things to Self-Enhance that we may have missed.

Ask for a bit of advice on Living Alchemy and understanding the endocrine system and making use of different glands, hormones, and naturally produced chemicals.

>>24408766
Ask him for alchemy advice then. May as well gather all the knowledge we can.

>>24408850
Vivec has throatfucked bitches so hard they exploded and cockslapped the moon, nothing you can do would surprise him.

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>>24408703
Just as the wendigo was about to start the process of flaying the skin from his face, Alexander felt the spear of chi projecting from his waist make contact with the beast's body. The effect was almost instantaneous.

The first thing seen was a sizziling, searing shaft of pure energy projecting from the back of the wendigo and into the infinite sky. The sound was indescribable, an act of God centered on the pair that made the skies explode and the orphans in the bunker cry out as the roof shook and spat pebbles. The smell of charred offal filled the air. To its credit, the beast never stopped trying to kill Alexander. The beam flickered, and stopped. A neat circle had been bored straight through the wendigo's gut, centered on Alexander's pants. Then the second thing happened.

Tiny lines of yellow-hot energy spread across the wendigo's body, rippling out from the wound. The lines swirled, met and split apart again, turning into a beautiful mesh of golden wires that then turned into a series of cracks and then the wendigo was no longer a wendigo but something that looked like a wendigo and then it was suddenly breaking apart at the seams into ashes.

Alexander fell backwards, his energy spent.

> cont'd

>>24408902
>A neat circle had been bored straight through the wendigo's gut, centered on Alexander's pants.
>through the wendigo's gut

Well, he's got power, but not accuracy, it seems.

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>>24408766
Ask him how he's doing. Have a normal conversation with him. Treat him like a person for just a little while before the next supplicant comes up and begs the Carl to dispense wisdom.

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>>24408902
>This story is making me bleed pleasure

Share with Carl our fanfiction about Alex dicking a wendigo.

>>24408852
>>24408945
I second this. Let's just chat with the guy for a while.

>>24408960
no

>>24408960
> Implying that dicking is in any way shape or form similar to The D

>>24408902
Alexander woke up, and heard the sound of children. Then he opened his eyes.

The orphans were clustered around him, tiny concerned faces streaked with tears at the apparent death of their beloved protector. He tried to sit up, but the muscles in his back wouldn't move. He decided to keep lying down. Alexander spoke, the words coming from far away and through a throat like a corn thresher.

"You're safe."

> FIN.

>>24409038
Alexander Lee is the hero Scholomance needs.

>>24408945
Agreed, just chill for a bit, sit with Carl, maybe have some tea, and chat.

>>24409038
Love you

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>>24408902
I honestly expected him to fuck the wendigo into submission (what with being near unkillable) rather then merely killing the wendigo with an energy beam shot from his penis.

>>24408960
No

Alexander Lee: Dick of Justice is now available in handy-dandy pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Zj8p3Qx6

>>24409199
I'd love to see what the stat sheets for one of them looks like.

So many boxes. So beautiful.

You sit with Carl for a while he's an amazing listener - which is hardly surprising - and has some interesting, if cryptic, stories as well, always vague on the details. You come to realize, over the course of spending a few hours talking to him, that he, much like your father, makes an effort to keep current with culture and media, even if it would be easier to simply coast into anachronism and ignorance. He mentions, for instance, that English didn't really exist - at least in a form resembling what it is now - when he was born, and that Carl is more a translation of his original name than anything.

You, meanwhile, talk about your frustrations in balancing studying, socializing, independent projects, and personal augmentation. His suggestion is almost predictable, urging you to decide what your priorities are, then prioritize accordingly.

What do you do now? It's starting to get late at night.

>>24409269
See where we're at on the bell, then head home.

>>24409269
Thank Carl for his time, then, if Alexander isn't about still, head home.

>>24409269
>>24409291
Agreed

>>24409291
Ring. Dat. Bell.

With our fist.

>>24409269
Thank Carl for his time, for listening to us vent and yammer his ear off, show him a few pictures of Selene and Alison while putting on our biggest smile.

Then give the bells a shot before heading home.

say bye to the bells
dick carl
go home

wait what

>>24409269
Head home. But first ask about the zen garden's relation to chi flow and whether there's any kind of way to reduce the time it takes to recover from strain (unlikely).

>>24409269
Seconding:
>>24409291
>>24409301

>>24409269
Holy fuck, Carl's from the Old English period? Although it depends on what you'd call 'resembles modern English'. Chaucer is almost unreadable due to FUCKING FRENCH SCRIBES and GODDAMN CHANCERY, but if you listen to it it's not that bad.

>>24409376
Probably pre-germanic, if what he says is anything to go by.

>>24409376
For all we know Carl could be a goddamned Pictish warrior.

>>24409376
Isn't Carl more than a thousand years old?

>>24409376
At least that old, probably older. Although he has thrown a lot of weird hints about how old he is around in the past. Might be completely bullshit for all we know.

>>24409376
>Carl
>Chaucer
I could dig it.

>>24407532
My god what have I created

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>>24409269
Aww.. I was hoping you'd actually write out some of the conversation and stories instead of just fading to black.

>>24409444
Something beautiful.

>>24409444
Something wonderful.

>>24409376
Chaucer is Middle English.

He really hasn't given us much in the way of a hint with that, we know that he was probably born pre-1500 or so from this as I doubt he'd say that if he grew up with Early Modern English.

>>24409444
can someone cap this for posterity?

You thank Carl for listening, show him some pictures of your girls - you're not sure if he's being polite or is actually interested - and then head over to the bell to see how far you've come. You square off against it, then try to give it a nice, hard punch.

Roll Body to punch the bell. You get a +3 for Strength, a +3 for Durability, and a +1 for Shield. I'll consider the first eleven linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 27

>>24409479

Well, 'carl' comes from a word that just meant 'man' so he might be older if his name is just Man.

Rolled 31

>>24409479
GOD DAMMIT DESTROY THE BELL.

FOR SELENE.

Rolled 87

>>24409479
Time to break a hand.

Rolled 19

>>24409479
>critfail
>breakhand

>>24409444
I can't speak for anyone else, but in at least my case, a raging erection

Rolled 43

Fail!

Rolled 11

>>24409479
PAUNCHE

Rolled 59

>>24409479
SHINING FINGEEEEEEEER

Rolled 38

>>24409479

Rolled 79

>>24409479
Blah

Rolled 26

>>24409479

Rolled 77

>>24409479

Rolled 60

>>24409479
Rolling.

Three successes! Yay!

>>24409498
>>24409524
>>24409526
It was three successes to ring the bell properly if I recall.

Which means we did it.

>>24409498
>>24409524
>>24409526
3/11, could be worse.

Three successes, time to head home. Glad we didn't jar someone out of their meditation, but probably shouldn't punch bells this late at night...

>>24409547
I believe you'll find that 3/11 is barely shy of "average"

>>24409545
Yep, same as last time.

Rolled 93

>>24409479

>>24409573
Bit late there bud.

>>24409547
that is the minimum to actually ring the bell

>>24409563
Or perhaps they lost track of time meditating and we're just notifying them to the hour?

>>24409542
Meh, we are still weak.

>>24409588
Yes, weak, but adequate. We show the capability to overcome obstacles.

>>24409566
>>24409583
Yeah, thanks guys. Didn't realize part of my post said "tell me things I already know".

>>24409587
They accumulate successes until they stop meditating. You just wrecked some older students month long session.

>>24409498
>>24409524
>>24409526
It's not a huge, resounding tone, and it doesn't send the bell swinging, but the sound is clean, clear, and hangs in the air with that crisp, silvery note. You turn, grinning, to Carl, who gives you a big thumbs up. Sanjay appears undisturbed by the sound.

That's where I'm ending it for tonight. I'm having a hard time keeping my eyes open.

>>24409611
Good note to end on.

>>24409606
Not really, we already rang the bells before with three successes. We just showed no improvement since then.

>>24409611
Sanjay is getting pretty chill.

After we finish doing whatever we will with Pierre, how about we get to know Sanjay better?

Hey, Fem. You got enough energy left in you to give an update on Liz and Lin's sheets?

>>24409611
'night Fem.

>>24409611
Thanks for the threads, Femcock.

>>24409639
Probably should have brought that up a few hours ago...

>>24409634
In character, considering the comparative size of the dice pool between this hit and the last one, it's more like we find it moderately easier to do, but we didn't do it as well as we could have. We rack disiprin.

>>24409631
I dunno, making noise that late at night makes us a bit of a bell-end.

>>24409659
I did, in the previous thread. Then I had to leave.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance
This thread is now archived. Remember to vote it up.

>>24409639
Nope. Literally having a hard time keeping my eyes open.

>>24409681
Welp, that's fine. I was just curious about their progress anyway. Have a good sleep, Fem.

http://anydice.com/program/21a9

For the curious: odds of getting any particular number of successes based on dice pool size.

>>24409663
Well, I think we sent this thread out with a bang.

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>>24409707
Already got it handled (including the crit fail/success mechanic).

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>>24409733
And now, with helpful colors!

>>24409713
Unfortunately, the boring kind of banging for this quest.

No, there's no pun here, go away.

>>24409733
>>24409748
Anydice is easier to intuitively edit and share, but I guess it doesn't make graphs so pretty.

>>24409784
True. I think the pmfs/histograms are more intuitive anyway.

>>24409707
Damn, I gave up fiddling around with anydice trying to make it do dice pools when I was making >>24409733.

>>24409707
So each additional die is worth .31 successes, or slightly less than one success per three dice.

>>24409707
>adding this to the wiki
>these >>24409733 >>24409748 are uploaded in wikimedia commons and linked
Uh
What?

>>24411720
Well yeah. 70+ is a success so each dice has a 31% chance of being a success.

>>24411730
they were made right after we changed form all 1s auto fail and all 100 auto crit to 100 is +2 1 is -1 negative successes are crit fails.

>>24406353
every fucking time I see this thread I click it because sexy girl abs.

And then no one posts any cheesecake.

Come on guys.

Think Fem skips tonight like last Tuesday or if she'll just do one at 9pm ish?