>>25575996
>"Alright." She smiles. "So who was that on the phone, Sempai?"
"None of your goddamn business, bitch. Now get in the fucking kitchen and make me a turkey club!"

>>25575996

"Just a jerk who happens to be a friend of mine. Wanted to see how I was doing."

"He called this late?"

"Remember when I said he was a jerk?" I ask calmly which gets a small smile as we walk back inside.

Rin's standing in the kitchen scraping something unidentifiable off of a pan. "Taiga apparently decided to touch as little as possible while we were gone."

"How'd that work out?"

"She turned over some of the fish you were grilling, but these vegetables are a lost cause." She answers with a sigh.

".... Those used to be vegetables?"

"I THINK they used to be vegetables." Rin responds, prodding it with the edge of a spatula.

".... Taiga's that bad of a cook?" Sakura asks confused. "How does she feed herself?"

"In the last year or so since you started coming to my house, have you ever seen Taiga eat a meal that wasn't cooked by one of us?"

She looks at me, and clearly spends a minute trying to recall such an incident. Almost desperately clawing for a memory that doesn't exist.

[ ] Set up a movie.
[ ] Help Rin cook.
[ ] Taiga, Saber, and Ilya are alone together.

>[X] Taiga, Saber, and Ilya are alone together.

That cannot possibly end well

>>25576048
>[X] Taiga, Saber, and Ilya are alone together.

>>25576110
It cannot. We must stop it.

>>25576134
>stop it
It's like you hate awesome

>>25576048
This is our chance to discover what happened in the fire.

[X] Help Rin cook

Make it... a pork recipe. If possible, char siu.


MAXIMUM TRAUMA TIME.

>>25576048
>[ ] Taiga, Saber, and Ilya are alone together.
Hijinks go!
I'd joking suggest to ask Rin to set up the move in the meantime, but we all know how that ends.

Three quests at once. This'll be fun.

>>25576048
Hmm, I think I was throwing in with [X] movie before we got ba-leeted

>>25576048
>[ ] Set up a movie.

>>25576110
Taiga will be furious, Saber will be a red-faced sputtering lump of moe, and Ilya will be intensely pleased with herself.
Not sure WHAT they're talking about, but knowing Ilya thats the only way this will end. And I'm ok with that.

>>25575996
Just a quick heads up, the recap thread wasn't archived.

Here's a foolz link to it just in case you don't have one.

https://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/25370204/#q25370204

>>25576048
Yessssss, F/A. Its been so long I had absolutely no idea what was going on for a moment.

[ ] Help Rin cook.
We need to make sure this food gets done right.

>>25576204

>The recap thread was archived, I'm looking at it right now.

>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/25370204/

>>25576204
What? Yes it was. Bottom thread listed: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Grail-kun
"Fate/Stay Again, Abridged edition 1"

>>25576223
It's got all the standard tags too

>>25576048
>[ ] Set up a movie.

Shirou's mechanically inclined, sisters are culinary inclined, and the rest are hijinks inclined (Saber's there to maintain order... probably).

>>25576223
>>25576224
Huh, when I checked for it when the thread 404ed I couldn't find it.

Oh well, carry on then.

>>25576048
>[ ] Taiga, Saber, and Ilya are alone together.
This... THiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

>>25576248
If nothing else tonight, you can say you learned something

>>25576153
Come on guys, seriously. Burning pork is like smelling human flesh, and brings back the memory of the Fuyuki fire.

Don't you guys want to know what happened?

>>25576048
regarding "[ ] Taiga, Saber, and Ilya are alone together"

would choosing this mean we intervene or that we encourage shenanigans

>>25576289
>encourage shenanigans
Obviously

>>25576297
s'why I namefag. So everyone can see where the bad ideas come from

It's a shame about that Avenger phonecall. I just realized (only way after the thread was finished) that would've been an excellent opportunity to learn of Broserker's predicament.

Just tell him the following words:
>"You know, I don't think I'll ever forgive you for what happened to Berserker."

Alas, what's done is done and we play on.

>>25576395
I think he's currently at city hall getting permits for his advice business. Lotta red tape for Mad Enhancement liability

"So, uh.... Something might be happening that I should deal with."

"Uh... Alright." Rin answers as she continues to scrape. "Sakura, do you want to help cook?"

"... Sure!" She says with a smile after only a moment's hesitation. I meanwhile, walk further into the house.

".... daughter?" Is where I hear Taiga's voice asks as I enter hearing range.

"Yeah. He had a bit of a falling out with my Mother's family after she passed on. I only managed to get here to try and catch up with him when this war started."

".... So you haven't seem him since you were really little, huh?"

"Yeah. When I found out he had....." She hesitates for a moment. "But on the plus side, I apparently have a brother now."

I hesitate, realizing that I didn't really have anything to worry about. Then-

"Taiga, I have a question." Saber begins.

"Yes?"

"The other morning I went to wake Shirou, and he seemed to be having some sort of night-" I step around the corner like I never lost step.

"Oh, this is where you were at."

"Shirou?" Ilya asks, glancing between me and Saber.

"Nothing important, just got home and was wondering where half the household got off to." I hesitate, looking around at the awkward faces. "I'm interrupting some sort of girl-talk gossiping thing aren't I? Sorry. I'll get out of the way."

"Gossip?" Saber asks, blushing slightly. "I was doing nothing of the sort...."

"Then why's everyone suddenly- it was about me wasn't it." I sigh. "Right, don't mind me, just passing through." I say as I start to walk away.

Behind me, I hear Taiga start to talk. "... So, something about a nightmare?"

>>25576586

"Eh? Oh, nothing. It was probably nothing important, he was just moaning slightly."

"Moaning you say." Ilya states levelly.

"Yes, I could not quite make it out, but it sounded like a name."

"Moaning a name you say. Making out you say." Ilya continues.

".... Are you implying something?" Taiga asks.

"I'm implying we should hit him with a shovel so he's not as handsome. Solve all his problems in one go."

"That's not why I-" Saber suddenly stops and coughs. "You know, it might be rather rude to keep talking about someone behind their back like this-"

Welp, distracted enough. Shirou 5, Sanity Naught. I ignore the possibility that I have issues to-

[ ] Set up a movie.
[ ] Help Rin cook.
[ ] Go for a walk.
[ ] (Other).

>>25576592
>[ ] Set up a movie.

I shall keep insisting on this course of action.
Unless, it's down to /tg/ dice again...

>>25576592
>[ ] Set up a movie.

The sisters are having sister time in the kitchen, and Ilya seems to have things well in hand, so thats the only remaining task.

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>>25576592
Ilya is the best.

>>25576592
>[ ] Set up a movie.

>>25576592
>[x] Set up a movie.

>>25576592
>[X] Set up a movie
It shall happen!

[ ] Go for a walk.
Tempting Fate are we?

>>25576592
[x] Help Rin cook.
Seriously, when was the last time Shirou got to cook a meal in his own kitchen?

>>25576592
>[X] Set up a movie

This movie is going to happen even if we have to burn the world to do it.

>>25576709
Arc and Sacchin's parting, I think?

I sigh, wandering back towards the living room. I turn on the tv, scanning the headlines to see if anything new happened.

Nothing except the reward money from the recent disappearances getting bigger and something about a gas-leak in a Shinto office building.

I plug the DVD player in and start setting the features while I listen to Rin gently scolding Sakura and helping her learn to cook. Out of the corner of my eye, I watch as my student is slowly stolen from me.

I wonder idly if something like that was inevitable since Rin's both an able cook and a more competent teacher than me. Somehow, it doesn't seem to bother me as much as it probably should. I mean, as long as they're happy-

My thoughts are interrupted by a tapping noise at the window. Looking outside, I don't see anything. Maybe I imagined it?

[ ] Investigate.
[ ] Finish with the Movie already, Jesus.

>>25577187
>investigate

I'm betting it's Archer

>>25577187
>Investigate, but tell someone

Always use the buddy system. Fuck assassin

>>25577187
>[x] Investigate.
Don't you believe in fairies?

>>25577187
>[ ] Investigate.

Our curiosity must be sated.

>>25577187
>Rin gently scolding Sakura and helping her learn to cook

She's a better cook than Sakura? huh

Also >[ ] Investigate.
"Guys, it's probably nothing but I thought I heard something outside. Be right back'

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>>25577187
Let the investigation begin.

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>>25577324

[x] Investigate... but first, activate Inconspicuous Box Prana.

>>25577350
Oh god fairy TYPES that poor fool is dead
Anyways investigate

>>25577355

AND leave a box infront of the TV.

Folks will just assume shirou is being silly when they see it.

When they see shirou walking around later they'll all start wondering whether hes actually underneath a box or not.

>>25577187
I agree with >>25577221, but Assassin has fucked us up once when no one was looking. Let's call Rider and either bring her into the loop about Archer, or just let her know we're investigating something outside for a sec.

>>25577405
Wait. What if it's Rider that's trying to get our attention outside the window?
She wasn't in the roll-call of the preceding actions, so she might have snuck out while we weren't looking.

>>25577504
Good point, it might be Rider.
So if we walk out we'll either talk to Archer, talk to Rider, or learn we were too successful in seducing assassin.

If we're just in the main room fiddling with the dvd player, just call over to the girls in the kitchen

I glance around, and see Rider watching the sisters cook. "Hey, I'm going to step out in the yard. I thought I heard something."

"Alright." She answers with a nod as I open the door and look around.

I see a shrouded figure standing a few feet off to the side. "Hello Malik."

".... Berserker?" I ask, hopeful and confused as I take a few steps further.

"Sadly, no." The figure answers as it turns and I see the edges of a skull-mask. "I was merely confirming that you were the one he spoke of. A curious nickname indeed." I start to back away. "I mean you no harm this evening Shirou. I come not for my Master's sake, but for my own curiosity. The Keeper called you king, but you wear no crown and call no land your own. The girls surround you, yet you do not shower them in the affections you believe they deserve. You claim not to have a wish, but were chosen by the Grail. You jump at shadows, but stare fearlessly into danger. You, Emiya Shirou, are oddly fascinating. A Crownless King leading an empty life." He chuckles. "I wonder if our meeting was truly a coincidence.

>What say/do?

>>25577898
Holy crap, we actually have a chance with Assassin

>>25577898
"Well, being 'oddly facinating' is rather tedious when viewed from the other end. If I might ask, what fate befell he who referred to me as Malik?"

>>25577898
"You seem to be getting too familiar with Berserker. What have you done with him?"

>>25577898
"Empty? That's the exact opposite of what my life is."

>>25577988
Seconding. We might as well stay polite.

>>25577898
Welp. Looks like we seduced Assassin.
>The Keeper called you king
I forgot that Cain said that he was the keeper of all the stories.
>>25577988
I'm at a loss of what to say, so why not this?

>>25577898
"I wouldn't call it "empty", I've got more violence and more women than I know what to do with. According to most men my age, I'm living the dream."

"But more importantly, how do you know Berserker?"

All while positioning ourselves to dive heroically back into the house on the drop of a hat.

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>>25577898
>A Crownless King leading an empty life

And suddenly Shirou became Travis Touchdown.

To be really simple; he called his master princess and I'm her brother... royalty can be fuzzy

>>25578065
Great Saber, or greatest Saber?

>>25577898
>I wonder if our meeting was truly a coincidence.
"Forgive me if I'm confused as to why you think meeting me is fateful in some way. Seems I'm woefully short on information about why you seem to find me so interesting. Care to fill me in?"

>>25577898
Trace Rule Breaker, in an obvious, non-threatening manner. Offer to let him stay for movie night.

>>25578111
Yes, unless we end this conversation with stabbies, Assassin should come in

>>25578111
>>25578137
No.

No.

Fuck no. We can be civil, but he stays OUTSIDE. This is still the guy that is working for Zouken. Even if he's here on personal business, Zouken could command him to do something at any point. Hell, he might even be watching us RIGHT NOW.

>>25578198
This

>>25578198
Yeah, this.

"Well, being 'oddly facinating' is rather tedious when viewed from the other end. If I might ask, what happened to Berserker, anyway?"

"I do not know what befell him in this life." He answers simply. "I merely happened to hear the name he spoke to you coming from the lips of another."

".... I see. Why is it you find our meeting fateful?"

"Because you drew his eye as he drew mine. I had many things in life, but none of them were a thing that could not be claimed by another. Great wealth, many beautiful women, power and respect from great men. I lacked only one thing."

"... And that is?"

"A legacy. A name to be carried through the ages. I wished to place my mark on a mountain no other could climb, and paid dearly for my hubris." He turns to walk away. As he does, he pauses and speaks almost to himself. "I wonder Shirou, if you're the one to kill me."

Before I can react he vanishes over the wall and into the night.

>Actions?

I did say >>25576379

>>25578225
>Actions?

"Creepy..."
Then head back inside as if nothing worth mentioning happened.

Stare in the direction he retreated for a moment and then get back to that fuckin' movie

>>25578198
Which is why I suggested Rule Breaker.
If he doesn't want to hang around after that's cool. If he does, well, what the fuck is Zouken gonna do, he nuked the ref already.
>>25578225
Bah.
Go back to movie night.

>>25578225
Well unless we're going to chase after him (NO), head back in and work on the movie. Sometime soon mention to Rin that the Wards still don't work when they're needed most.

I think we might be dealing with the first Hassan. "Make my mark on a mountain no other could climb." Brings up imagery of the old man of the mountain and that very title fits quite well with Lancer's assessment. The massive boost in power is due to being the [goldtext] original [goldtext] assassin

>>25578225
[X] Set up the goddamn movie

>>25578346
>I think we might be dealing with the first Hassan. "Make my mark on a mountain no other could climb." Brings up imagery of the old man of the mountain and that very title fits quite well with Lancer's assessment. The massive boost in power is due to being the [goldtext] original [goldtext] assassin

Could be. Should we say what he said about himself to the girls? Together we might be able to learn his identity.

After a long hard moment of staring at where he vanished, I walk back inside shaking my head and put a movie in.

The household seems to gravitate together as the opening credits roll, and we slowly move from around the kitchen to the table to te living room as the film winds down to it's end.

After we put the second one in, Ilya settles on my lap and Rin and Sakura sit on either side of me. rider and Saber sit closely on my left past Rin, and Taiga throws herself beside Sakura to start watching the film.

We watch wacky misunderstanding after bizarre circumstance, occasionally laughing along to the onscreen antics.

Ilya drifts off to sleep about halfway in, and her tiny yawns spread to Taiga as well. I tuck the two of them in unconscious and am about to call it a night when Sakura kisses me.

>Actions?

>>25578927
What kind of kiss are we talking about? Mouth to mouth? On the cheek? Did anyone else say them?

>>25578959

>You're in the living room with everyone else, and it's the full on, wrap arms around the neck and go for it kind of kiss.

>>25578927
Coyly"Oh, what was that for?"

>>25578991
>You're in the living room with everyone else, and it's the full on, wrap arms around the neck and go for it kind of kiss.

Well.

Thats awkward.

>>25578927
>>25578991
[x] Counter attack.

>>25578991
>>25578927

oh shit gurl whatchu doin

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>>25578927
"Huh."

>>25578927
Freeze, eyes wide.

I... was not expecting that.

>>25578991
So Rider, Rin, and Saber are still awake. Rider will take it well, but I'm not so sure about Saber, and going maximum Shirou will probably make it worse. Look over Sakura's shoulder at Rider for help?

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>>25579030
>>25579028
>>25579026
>>25579016
Time for Shirou to do what he does best!

>>25578999
Alternately, [x] PANIC

>>25579043
>thumbsup.jpg

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>>25579052
Fail at romance?

>>25579052
Set himself on fire?

>>25579068
better advice than archer.

>>25579052
>>25579043
No, no, not go maximum shirou. Take this seriously. Maybe even pull her aside for some privacy to talk.

And if she tries to retreat, let's follow her. Or look to rider for confirmation before following her.

>>25579104
That was my first thought when reading that.

>>25578991
1. Return kiss.

2. Try to make eye contact with Rider and give her our best "NOT ACCORDING TO PLAN SOS MAYDAY PLEASE HALP" look. As much as we can do that with just our eyes anyway.

3. Assuming Rider doesn't directly intervene, break off the kiss before it gets out of hand (but not so soon that she'll be offended, of course). Our willpower isn't infinite, we need to be able to think clearly in case this situation blows the fuck up.

We can't really hesitate here and if we don't play this right someone's route is becoming Locked tonight

>>25578927
Whatever we do, it cannot be anything that can be a rejection of her or she'll go crazypants

>>25578927

[x] return kiss

The fabled 5 way?

... OH GOD THEY PLANNED THIS. THE SHARKS HAVE DECIDED TO STOP CIRCLING AND START NIBBLING.

GET OUT SHIROU, GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN BEFORE RIN AND RIDER AND SABER ALL COME IN FOR THEIR NIBBLES TOO

>>25579218
This is stupid.

>>25579209
3 way at most, imouto and taiga are out for the night

>>25579218
That is exactly what we WANT to happen.

If it DOESN'T happen, then we might be in trouble.

>>25579230
>Implying the fabled 5 way was with best Sis and Taiga

>>25579235
>If it DOESN'T happen, then we might be in trouble.
This. WE NEED TO CHECK FOR EVERYONE ELSES REACTION

>>25579209
I have a feeling Saber will justexcuse herself extremely red faced and embaressed

>>25579230
Sakura, Rin, Rider, Saber, Shirou.

5.

>>25579264
Pretty sure Saber won't jump in if we don't push her, which would leave us with Sakura, Rin, Rider, Sakura, and Shirou.

>>25579261

Summon rider's chain.

>>25578927
Break off the kiss. We need to talk, Sakura.

>>25579350

Are you nuts.

>>25579350
Yeah, this, honestly.

I can hear AC-Guy's insane trollish laughter in my fucking mind.

>>25579392

You sure hes laughing in your mind or in your ear?

>So, is there a consensus?

>>25579392
I hope that he doesn't have another panic attack from laughing so much.

Again.

>>25579411
Freeze up and check the reactions from the other girls.

>>25579411

[x] return kiss, hug sakura and look around at the other girls with panic in the eyes.

>>25579411
Among the sane half, 'KISS HER YOU FOOL' seems to be winning, with a side order of attempted situational awareness.
I really hope we don't need to roll for that.

>>25579350
No you fool!

Play it cool. She's much more fragile emotionally than any one else, so roll with it and gauge reactions. Just don't let it continue for too long or escalate, unless the escalation is another girl joining in.

Worst-case scenario, we can play it off with "she just came at me, I reacted on instinct!" if anyone gets seriously pissed off.

>>25579430

In before kubotitis.

>>25579392
>>25579411
this i think

>>25579411
Kiss her, attempt situational awareness

>>25579411
Roll with it, figure out how everyone else reacts, and probably tell her that we'll need to talk- quiet enough that it's private.

Cautiously, I return the kiss while glancing around the room wide-eyed. Rin looks equally confused and betrayed, Rider seems to be watching the scene with blank amazement and Saber's opening and shutting her mouth in silence while blushing heavily.

I get ready to break the kiss, but Sakura does it first, as she starts to pull me down to the floor. I find myself kneeling over her, as she looks me in the eye.

I try to find the words to say, but I see her blushing and looking away as she speaks first in a whisper I can barely hear.

"Senpai..... do you love me?"

>Actions?

>>25579527

>Actions?

Wake up and have a conversation with Rider about personal space.

>>25579527
"We need to talk. All of us... there's an elephant in the room and I - we've been trying to ignore it for a long time"

>>25579542
That sounds about right.

>>25579527
Run out to the shed, lock ouselves in and work on the bike.

>>25579542

[x] yes

Much better than the initial flight response i felt.

>>25579542
>>25579548
>>25579557

This. Also why did this happened when best sister is asleep?

>>25579536

If she's seriously fucking with us here, then she's getting booted out.

>>25579536
This.

>>25579527
"Well that's a stupid question if I've ever heard one.
Of course I do."

3 for The HEART TO HEART Talk
1 to run
3 wake up to bug Rider


Hue

>>25579620
>Implying we can't try waking up and if that doesn't work we are doing THE TALK

Rider seems to be too shocked to be running a dream on us.
Voting for >>25579542

>>25579542
I'll go with the cool kids

>>25579638

Oh we can.

Imagine the damage to sakura when we ask if shes a figment of rider's dream abilities.

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In the meantime, >>25579542

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>>25579536
God, this.

>>25579542
If it is a reality, then we're in a crucial moment, so we need to handle this carefully.

>Alright, consensus isn't quite clear and I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. You guys mind if we call it a day here and pick up tomorrow night if the thread's alive?

>You seem like you could use the extra time to think and my writing ability is going straight to hell over here.

>>25579709

Hell, we're just as confused.

We're just gonna wing it.

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>>25579527
Congratulations, this has scared the crap out of me, even more than any encounter with Gil, Avengers or Hashashin

>>25579709
You monster.

Well, by the time you get back we'll probably have a full-length speech ready.

>>25579709
Actually, consensus is >>25579542 right now.
Can we lock that in so we don't spend an hour tomorrow wondering what the eventual consensus is going to be?

>>25579732
What is Love?
Saber don't hurt me.

>>25579737
Yes please

>>25579709
if you wouldn't mind could you try a writeup for >>25579542 before crashing?

>>25579620
NO nononono, we CAN'T go full Shirou here and pretend we're dreaming. Density is our enemy here, so let's stop pretending we have no idea about anything and prepare for SERIOUS TALK.

>>25579758
Shirou doesn't get to have THE TALK now.

THE TALK gets to have Shirou.

Could we at least answer her before we go all round table on them?

>>25580151
The answer will likely be along the lines of "I really care about you all. I cant say I love one of you without saying i love the others as well"

>>25579709
FUCK YOU.

Anyway, >>25579542 is the sane option.

>>25580252
Pretty much this, we need to admit that we don't really know what love is but we think it's what we feel for all of them. We're struggling with the fact that we can't love any one of them alone because we'll always feel this way about the others as well.

>>25579542
If we lead with "The elephant in the room has just stampeded", I will love AC-Guy forever.

>>25582164

And then rider notes that it's not the only elephant trumpeting.

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>>25579542
This.

The BS has gone on long enough. Time to resolve this stupid harem BS and get back to the actual 'stop the horror of Avenger' plot

Ac-Guy has stated previously that he works with 'points' for the girls.

Apparently we have enough Rin-points to do pretty much anything. This DID come as a surprise to her, though, so some damage control is probably necessary.
I'm pretty certain Rider is okay with sharing at this point.
I have no idea how we stand with Sakura. Not pushing her away was clearly the right call, since it took her a LOT of courage to pull this off and refusing her would've crushed her confidence even further. No idea how open she'd be to the harem idea, though.
Saber is going to be the hardest. We haven't even found a way to keep her in this world yet, and until we do she won't even consider the possibility of being in love. I fear we may not be able to get her along right now. Or maybe ever, sadly.

Remember Shirou, be confident!

Whether this is actually a good idea or not is a moot point, as long as you make it SOUND like a good idea.

Whatever you do, don't second guess yourself.

>>25578225
Can we confirm if this Assassin is the same one we encountered at the Temple a while back? Because Rider was able to fight that guy off relatively easily.

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>>25578225
>"I wonder Shirou, if you're the one to kill me."
>"Could you be the one to finally finish me?"

>>25582391
Assassin took a level in badass recently

So, terrifying thought: what if this isn't just Sakura being frisky, and is instead some elaborate plot to destroy us with a drama-bomb by causing all our relationships to implode?

>>25582655
The only relationship that MIGHT implode would be Saber. And frankly I doubt she'd do that much imploding at all.

>>25582655
It could be Rider dream-testing us.

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>>25582655
If so, that plan is (hopefully) about to backfire horribly.

>Jokes on you Zouken, I was going for the Harem route all along!

>>25582718
An outside observer might assume it would torpedo our relationship with Rin, since obviously nobody except for Avenger, the metagaming bastard is aware of just how many Rin points we have stacked up.

>>25582239
>We haven't even found a way to keep her in this world yet

The UBW way is always an option: Rin supports her & it takes up ~80% of her power. Sakura's supposed to be as capable as Rin as far as reserves go so that covers Rider too.

>>25583107
She'll still have to go back to Camlann when she dies, though. And her body would stay the same while everyone grows old around her. Not exactly a fun prospect.

Would she still have her memory if we let her 'die' in the grail war, fade away to Camlann, she actually dies there and THEN we wish her back to life using our Grail-wish?

>>25583107
Assuming, of course, we haven't figured out the fix-the-grail plan by that point.

>>25583107

Sakura filled with crest worms was that capable. I'm not sure she'll have retained her full capacity now we've had them removed.

>>25584460
the crest worms were there to allow her to use matou magic, they didn't change her circuits... she just needs to relearn magic I think.

>>25584519

I thought they basically acted as extra magic circuits?

As I recall a good deal of her hax level mana capacity came from being a grail host. This Sakura is no one and is probably actually a bit worse than Rin circuit wise due to damage from the worms and the fact that she was considered inferior enough to Rin to get shipped off to the Matous in the first place. On the plus side though she would probably be far happier to support a servant because for her magecraft is forever associated with Zouken raping her via proxy and therefore is likely to be far less magically active than Tin.

>>25584750
>inferior enough to Rin to get shipped off to the Matous in the first place.
It's not so much as "Inferior enough to get sent away" as it is "Mages have a 1-heir rule generally and excess kids are traded t other families for kickbacks."

"Less potentially powerful than Rin" is, like, most mages ever. Rin is fucking nuts.

>>25584750
No, Daddy Tohsaka had a particularly hard choice to make with his girls because both of them were so naturally insane with magic that they'd have discovered it by themselves sooner or later.

The only choice he made was the older daughter, as that was really the only difference between them (aside from their origins. Rins is jewels, sakura's is magic numbers but that was somehow forceably changed by wormnigger).

A mage with two heirs so powerful has a heartbreaking choice to make because only one heir can inherit the family crest, it just so happened that one of daddy tohsaka's former allies (the matou family) didn't have a worthwhile heir (kariya ran away from the tradition and the other son was useless), so sakura was given to the matou family to inherit their crest and produce powerful mage babies, if not from one of zoukens grandchildren then from zouken himself.

*wars* in magi families have been fought over two siblings desiring the family crest as it represents generations of magical knowledge and ability.

>>25578225
Im telling you guys that this assassin is the original hassan the first man on the moutain

>>25585555
But the original Old Man of the Mountain was named Rashid ad-Din Sinan... Hassan-i-Sabbah founded them, but they became so powerful later. So if we're going with "the original Assassin", then he can be either of them: Rashid or Hassan

>>25585881
Him being ether one or some sort of combination of the two explains his appearance and his ability to use the phantasms of other hassans

>>25585957
Well, that, or it's actually the fate/strange fake assassin disguising herself as a man.

>>25585957

>his ability to use the phantasms of other hassans

Alright, that's one hell of an assumption. Care to explain your reasoning?

>>25579709
Throwing my vote in for the elephant discussion and thanks for this AC-Guy. This is everything I could have wanted for the glorious pressure blowout moment.

>>25586254

I'm waiting for this to somehow be a troll of some sort.

I'm with the Nowhere on this, I can hear the laughter. Something tells me we're either panicking for nothing, or this is about to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.

>>25586363
Maybe Hassan ambushed us with his Tally-whacker so hard we're having a fever dream? Oh well at least it's helping us get our houseplans in order.

Rolled 4

>>25586419
It bears mentioning that we went to see someone who has kidnapped and replaced us before with no one the wiser. Food for thought.

>>25586518
What if Bahsahkah found and smashed the real grail in a beat the "reaper" for an extra life gambit before escaping. Zouken finds the shards and mistakenly thinks from his previous failures that he may need a male host. So he sends Hassan to capture his Greatest foe. Us. Hassan knows what will happen and decides to drug us to give us a little happiness before we wake up to our horrific new reality.

Kirei is in the corner the whole time furiously Rejoicing!

Inform everyone that if this is a Rider Dream, we will be very hurt and disappointed with her, and if this is a dream given by someone else (coughAssassincough) we will be very angry. Then give it a second to sink in before we start The Talk.

>>25586684
But if it is a Ridah dream we'd be wasting the hypothetical chance to see how the storm blows. And if it isn't we've just pissed off Rider and Saber needlessly. It's a really stupid move man.

>>25586745
Everyone else's reactions have my fairly convinced it isn't, but I just wanted to cover that possibility. And I could definitely see it upsetting Rider, but Saber?

>>25586863
Because we'd be dishonorably trying to stick someone else with the blame.

>>25586893
That certainly wasn't the impression I wanted to give, but look back at all the shit that's happened that could make us suspicious. We had the fake Saber a while ago, we have Assassin who can make simulacrums and replace us with them without ANY OF US being aware, we had Arcueid faking being Lancer, and we have Rider's dream fuckery.

We know about Sakura not exactly being comfortable with sex, so this seems wildly out of character for her. We have every right to be a little suspicious. But we NEED TO HAVE THIS FUCKING TALK with the girls.

Updated timeline at the usual place
http://pastebin.com/afNEHk0R

My own mini version of an insane theories pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/fqxdzm9J

>>25579709
My vote is for >>25579542
Also some mention of said elephant currently stampeding.

Bamp

>>25588066

http://pastebin.com/kbk9L521

>And now back to work. See you guys later tonight.

>>25587176
Her raging lust has been in close contact with the source of it for a couple days now in a very high stress enviroment. Not to mention her usual lust dreams AND the how about a harem end dream that Rider snuck to her. Which she took to -too- well. Her dams just broke finally that's all.

>>25590896

Or she's True Assasin.

>>25590920
But Anon, weren't you there when we figured out that everyone is Hassan? We're doing our best to keep it on the down low but they're really pressing us hard now.

>>25590896
I'd agree with you if she hadn't just begged Rider to brainwash the slut out of her less than 24 hours ago, unless my mental timeline is fucked up.

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>>25591002
Day 11, [Tuesday] [2/10]
Afternoon, 41st Verse
-Sakura's a slut
Evening, 44th Verse
-What the Fuck, Sakura?

No, my timeline says we found out about her trying to get the slut brainwashed out of her like, 4-6 hours ago. So it was definitely less than 24 hours.

>>25590563
>[*Insert insane laughter here*]
I'm going to take that as a positive note.
Updating my paste to include your edit.

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>>25591129
>two species can play that game foul dogs

>>25583219
>Using the grail
no

>>25591988
Maybe once we defeat Avenger, it cleanses the grail?

Maybe Avenger's plan IS to cleanse the grail, and without casualties if things go well?

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You've made my week AC-Guy. Stay Fabulous

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>>25592415

>>25592415
>Realta Nua Rin x Mitsuzuri scene.jpg
That reminds me: I need to go through again with the Realta Nua stuff installed.

>>25592415
Wh-what is this?

>>25592960

Only Rin and best girl

>>25592960
The bit from Realta Nua that replaced one of the ero-scenes in Heaven's Feel, a lewd dream caused by Rider if I recall

>>25592960
The second best route that will never be

>>25593009
Of course! I just didn't realized Realta Nua added anything besides Last Episode and voices

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>>25593024
Wait, Realta Nua actually changed stuff? I thought it just added some voiceovers. Damn. Now I'm gunna have to go get my hands on it.

>>25593126
I do not know exactly what changed, but I believe for the most part it just added voices, Last Episode, and skips ero-scenes.

>>25593039
>>25593126

It wasn't "added" so much as it replaced an existing scene. All of the H-scenes were replaced with PG versions.

>>25593039
>>25593126

Where did you guys think the DRAGON scene came from?

>>25593206

Thought the anime predated Realta Nua?

>>25593206
I, being new to the Fate/Franchise, am not really sure what the DRAGON scene is. From what I gathered it's what appeared in the anime instead of the... prana transfer ritual in the woods with Sabre.

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>>25592432
Long hair Glasses Rin is best Rin.

An adult Rin is fine too.

>>25593232

Yeeep.

Basically, in the VN, Shirou, Rin and Saber had a kinky threesome.

In the anime Shirou got his arm bitten off by a giant CG dragon.

>>25593268
And in the UBW OVA, Rin taking his virginity is replaced with dolphins. [insert joke about dolphin rape here]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOJCQZHEESY

>>25593227
That is true, but the dolphin scene in the UBW movie was taken from the edited version of the scene in Realta Nua.

>>25593268
Anime Shirou has no manner of luck at all.

>>25593268
>>25593286
I'm glad I listened to /a/ and skipped the anime and went straight into the VN.
Shit sounds retarded

>>25593307
It was. Still might as well suffer through it for completions sake

>>25593307

It was hilarious.

For best results, try watching the dragon scene while the audio from the VN plays.

>>25593232
You mean this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdol1dMEtMY

>>25593307
Actually, the UBW OVA is pretty okay. Worth seeing after you've played the VN (it's almost impossible to follow if you haven't played the route) for the action scenes.

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>Ufotable will never animate F/SN

>>25593307
>http://pastebin.com/kbk9L521
>>25593286
>>25593268
>>25593232
But it's beautiful! Especially this version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdol1dMEtMY

>>25578225
We should do as >>25579542 suggests. be open.

Assuming we can get through The Elephant Talk without major blood loss, we should try and find a way and see if this is real, rather than an Assassin illusion. We already god screwed once, I don't wanna muck up again

Stupid mindfuckery

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>Heaven's Feel will never be animated

>>25593391
>The UBW OVA is pretty okay

AHAHA
HAHA
HA.

The animation is fluid, but at the same time it's terrible. I wish I had that image of Lancer from his fight with Archer at the curch, where his Gae Bolg is literally a line with a red triangle at the end.

And Lancer himself doesn't look much better.

>>25593391
>for the action scenes.
I found the entire thing unforgivable just for how badly they failed to convey the epicness that was taking place during Shirou and Archer's duel.

>>25593307
The two scenes above, and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8yWD07H1Iw

Those are the only scenes really worth watching.

>>25593399
BULLSHIT!
They can do a set of four OVAs after the inevitable remake (which adds an Ayako route) comes out!
Because that's totally gonna happen, eventually, after they finish the Tsukihime remake.
>implying the Tsukihime remake will ever be finished
SHUT UP YOU!
>I'm only saying what we're both thinking

>>25593478
After Tsukihime remake is Mahoyo 2 and 3, and maybe some more DDD.

Then, if anything, we'll be getting that Tsukihime 2 we were promised way back in Kagetsu Tohya.

>>25593478
>adds an Ayako route
Oh please, none of the remakes are going to add any routes.
Isn't it sad, Sacchin?

>>25593478
but they redesigned her. So it's not really a victory

>>25593511
>none of the remakes are going to add any routes.
Actually, Sacchin route being added back in has been confirmed. Repeatedly.
>>25593500
>Tsukihime 2 we were promised way back in Kagetsu Tohya.
This will only be sufficient if it is about Shiki and Ciel rolling around as for-profit vampire slayers.

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>>25593511
Begone, non-believer!

>>25593569
With the short stories that supposedly lead up to it, I got the feeling Ciel was still working for the church and Shiki had more or less become Arcueid's vassal/personal hitman in addition to being her lover.

But at this point, they can't have something as potentially apocalyptic as the resurrection of The Dark Six and not involve Shirou and probably Aoko in addition to Shiki, so I'm hoping the premise will be retooled into TYPE-MOON ALL-STARS KICK SOME ASS.

>>25593627

I would read the fuck out of that.

>>25593662
What if I were to add "Featuring Zelretch?"

>>25593627
>TYPE-MOON ALL-STARS KICK SOME ASS.
Including, through some sort of dickery, Counter Guardian EMIYA from BEFORE he had his mid-life crisis.
>>25593687
I would offer you my daughter's virginity.

>>25593627
>Skihi, Arc and Ciel Triple-teaming shit
>Aoko
>Shirou shows up rocking UBW, Rin with the Gemsword and Saber, and Sakura being a Grail Battery with Rider

World. Is. Fucked.

>>25593687
He's an easy one to blame for a mess on that scale.

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>>25593687

>>25593695
>I would offer you my daughter's virginity.

The contract has been sealed.

>>25593687
>>25593695
>>25593702
>Insert plot hooks and
>The world feels threatened and sends counter guardians to eliminate our young hero's
And now we have a plot

>>25593736
Joke's on you, I have no daughter!
And it's too late now, you're stuck mother fucker!

>>25593774
better get on making one

>>25593774
>I have no daughter!
Yet.

>>25593764
I was actually thinking "The world sends a Counter Guardian to aid our heroes", because the mental image of Shirou and EMIYA kicking ass together like some sort of crazy buddy cop movie appeals to me.

>Man, this thread went somewhere.... strange. I need to stop leaving you guys alone for extended periods of time.

>Can someone get me a consensus? I know there was something about wanting to get trampled by elephants earlier, is there a specific wording you want to go for?

>>25593801
>because the mental image of Shirou and non-suicidal EMIYA kicking ass together

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>>25593478
If they do make a remake, I really want there to be a route for the best girl, Taiga

>>25593850
Elephant in the Room just stampeded.

But in all seriousness, we need to tell everyone to sit down and talk this shit out before it becomes an apocalyptic disaster.

Saying "We love all four of you" in response to sakura's question is risky, but may defuse her breakdown for a bit.

>>25593850
See: >>25579542

Which seems to be the main consensus at the moment.

>>25593850
Elephant in room, commence harem strategy session, shirou defuses slutbomb(s) with scalpel.

"I care about all of you"

>>25593801
I was honestly thinking this would be the event that would cause Shirou to BECOME a Counter Guardian.

>>25593850
I think>>25579542 has been the consensus since yesterday.

I sort of forgot this wasn't just a general F/SN thread

>>25593850
we want >>25579542

with >>25588066
>Also some mention of said elephant currently stampeding.

>>25593869
Honestly, Ilya seems like the best thing that could happen to Taiga. She loved Kiritsugu, and Kerry's actual daughter shows up, and really needs some sort of Adult guardian/Role model?

It's like being Kerry's wife by proxy for her.

>>25593889
>>25593850
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzMEpbL3v3Y

SEIZON SENRYAKU

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>>25593695
>Counter Guardian EMIYA from BEFORE he had his mid-life crisis.
Reminds me of Hill of Swords.
That was a good read.

>>25593956
It's kinda so-so. Action scenes are pretty well done.
It's head and shoulders above his other long-runner, though.

>>25593904
As long as it can't possibly be interpreted as us calling Sakura an elephant.

Some people would have a fucking field day with that one.

>>25594081
Yes. Very much this.

We do not want to imply Pachydermity. THat will end with us DEAD>

>>25594081

We don't want to imply we're calling ANYONE an elephant. Basically everyone in the shark,uh... collective noun...

Basically all of the sharks could kill us really easily. Except probably Sakura. But Rider would probably be QUITE WILLING to pick up the slack, there.

>>25593850
Address the romantic Shark that has been in the room for quite some time now.

His suave Sicilian accent makes us swoon for his scaly embrace and dapper fashion sense.

>>25594113
>>25594159
But anons, we are the elephant, with a majestic horn to toot.

"So." I begin, seeing Sakura's confused expression. "I think it's about time we had a talk about the elephant in the room we've all been ignoring."

"Oh god, you're gay, aren't you?" Rider blurts out suddenly, and the four of us immediately turn to her.

"No. No, I'm not. What?"

"Ok. I was just.... for a second there it looks like that's where it was going. Never mind." She says relieved, going back to attentive.

I can't quite tell if that diffused the tension or not, I try to continue "So uh..... I'm actually not sure where to begin with this. We've left all this hanging for so long...."

I see Sakura starting to mist up, Rin's quietly beginning to fret, Saber is looking around embarrassed and confused, and Rider is simply staring as though waiting for a verdict. If I didn't see how tightly her hands were clenched, I'd never know anything was wrong.

>Choose one, or give a me D20 to salvage the situation.

Rolled 8

>>25594256
"I love you all."

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>>25594233
Quite

Rolled 19

>>25594256
"I CARE ABOUT ALL OF YOU!"

Rolled 12

>>25594282
c'moooooon no 1

>>25594276
Shit.

>>25594282
I love you forever.

Rolled 12

>>25594256
SAVING THE DAY
"What is love? I have feelings for all of you."

>>25593399
>>25593411
>>25593424

Isn't that from the PSP/Vita/Whatever version of the VN.

My amount of 'Do Want' is staggering.

>>25594295

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktbhw0v186Q

>>25594282

*Applause*

Rolled 20

>>25594282
Our hero.

Rolled 3

>>25594282
>not rolling a 1
I am disappoint

>>25594256
Rider is so the best winggirl. If we land the bestending we're going to have to get her and Ayako together just to repay everything Rider's done to help us.

>>25594301
It's just the animated OPs for the Vita version. The VN itself is exactly the same as the PC version except with remixed music.

>>25594321

OUR OTHER HERO

>>25594330

Thought the Vita version was Realta Nua, so with voice acting and no porn?

>>25594321
>>25594353

I AM A SUPERHERO

>>25594359
Right. Same as the PS2 version, then.

>>25594353
TOGETHER WE RESOLVE TENSE RELATIONSHIP MOMENTS WE HAVE NO REAL IDEA HOW TO HANDLE AND SPEAK LOUDLY

>>25594256
Damn... just when I was typing a padding speech for Sakura to buy time and segue it to the "Elephant in the room" conversation.

Welp, reworking the speech then.

Rolled 18

>>25594256
Box our way out of the house, into a bar and get blackout drunk.

>>25594392
Post it for posterity?

>>25594392
pastebin?

>>25594397
OH! MY! GOD! AC-Guy you have to note this down for the inevitable CP thread. We gotta see that kind of shenanigan GOLD.

>>25594256
So what was the break down? 2-6 Rin, 7-11 Sakura, 12-16 Rider, 17-19 Saber
1 is Assassin, 20 is Ilya

>>25594408
Obliging then...

>"Sakura, I completely understand how much this means to you. After all that you've been through and dealt with, conveying your feelings for me probably took every ounce of strength and courage in you."

>"Thank you for placing your in trust in me."

>"I can only promise that I won't refuse you in the future. For now, I just want to clear up everything to everyone here. Right now."
>*insert elephant in room conversation*

Grargh... feels sooo~ sappy and... bah...

>>25594434

I think "Bad Ends" could be an entire CP thread of it's own. Probably more than one.

>>25594282
WELL THEN!

Just make sure we thrown in something about how we can't pick just one because that would hurt the others, which is of course unacceptable, thus we pick ALL OF THE ABOVE. They'll immediately recognize that as trademark Shirou logic.