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Okay.

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>>26517017
Maybe this is a god? Or mash ups of animals are normal due to wizards fucking about?

>>26517017
>>26517037
So we've got... Gryphons and flower-based weaponry. Nae bad.

>>26517037
I'd say that the players are wizards in a dystopian world. Like Shadowrunners but all wizards and sorcerers.

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>>26517116
Wizard based dystopia. Totally works.

Guns don't shoot bullets. Instead, they're a kind of mechanical spell casting devices that releases prepared spells (usually by applying force to spell components) when you pull the trigger. This means a gun can be used to cast a single firebolt, but also allows for "healing guns", "summoning guns" and so on.

>>26517215
I want to go further than this:

We are all islands. Each of us carves our own realities out, and bears them in our heads, in our senses, and in our lives. We could barely even interact, except for the Device. The Device is used to throw a personal reality into someone else's reality. You can make yourself real by shooting someone in the head.

Of course, the Device looks very different based on the reality it comes from. It may be the beak or claws of the perfect hunter, swooping down upon their prey - anyone and everyone else. It may be the gun of an agent, who turns other actors into scenery. It may be a singular bridge, across which the savages are herded into civilization. Or it could be anything else you can imagine.

>>26517295
I like the direction, but it's a bit too metaphysical and weird for a setting, if it's literally a giant mess of individual realities clashing and getting forced on people. There must be a middle ground between this and >>26517215

>>26517215
I like that. Would work well with the Dystopian Wizard thing.

>>26517295
not sure what that would mean. Kinda confusing...so does everyone see your Device as something else are is your Device hardlined into reality by your will?

>>26517017

Magic has mutated most of the planet's fauna; gryphons are to the setting what birds are to our world, so there probably are gryphons that look like eagles, gryphons that look like ravens and so on.
As a side note, not everyone sees what magic has done to the animals as "mutations", with the belief that it has just accelerated their evolution being very popular inside some circles.

>>26517359
Simple:
>You're safe in the city, man. This is the real world. It's not like the Sea.
>You go out there, you don't know what you're getting into. Dreams. You'll start in yours, yeah. But they'll find you.
>Dreamhunters. The guys with Devices. Try all you want, they will find you. And they'll force you into their dreams.
>Once you're theirs...you're not coming back.

Shadowrun + Inception + Points of Light = ???

>>26517169
So maybe theirs a fuckton of different City-State type things each with their own guild? Like the world is endless due to the Wizards fucking with reality too much and we have just crazy ammounts of Guilds fighting each other for dominance.

>>26517037
clearly there is an oversoul dimension of pure abstractions

>>26517295

It's just a bunch of pretentious mumbo jumbo. Does it even makes sense to you, or are you just trying to sound deep?

>>26517359
Well, if everyone is their own reality, we're probably talking far future or lovecraftian mindfuckery.

So reality-on-reality interactions should be the thing that the system handles, somehow, and the interface for that would be the Device. Maybe that's what lets you create and isolate your own reality? PCs would be whoever happens to have these Devices, and within their reality (e.g. if no other Device-bearing actor opposes it) all that is desired is done.

This may or may not end up like the legendary Time Wizards, if this direction is what is taken. Or possibly like a sufficiently high-powered game of Exalted.

>>26517426
So, what happened? Reality just broke down outside the cities, leaving only the metaphysical soup of the Sea?

>>26517455
I like this idea. Maybe make it uncertain, where some claim the cities were forged out of chaos, and others say the sea is a wasteland, brought about by too many people trying to make their own tiny personal cities.

>>26517501
behind the curtain though it should probably be that in a city you simply have enough people all simultaneously observing the same dream that it coalesces into reality instead of abstractions. The Dreamhunters are trying to create new cities, better cities, but they need more souls to live in them.

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>>26517428
YES. Ok so let's say there is three types of high-level Wizards. Guild Lords, Cosmics, and Tower Wizards.

Guild Lords are man with god-like power. Petty, selfish, and completely crazy. Each one is different but even the ones who try and protect their people go about it the wrong way (police states and the such).

Cosmics are Wizards who just decided to leave. They up and flew away from reality and if you meet one it's like meeting an Lovecraftian God rather than a man.

Tower Wizards are guys who just said "Fuck you guys" and left society. They built there own massive "towers" (basically anything you can imagine as a stronghold) and study the universe. They're the most "together" of the group and might actually help you if you have a good reason.

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>>26517455
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>>26517426
>>26517359
>>26517295
>>26517215
>>26517116

So, what we have so far is "safe" cities, where you can conduct business and interact with the real world.

You go outside of the cities, and you're in the Sea. Unreality, where you shape your own world around you. If you find someone else, you can attempt to engage with them by means of a Device, forcing your reality upon them.

Definitely a wizard-based dystopia.

Players are bounty hunters, entrepreneurs, or what?

>>26517536
I think players are the only ones allowed Devices. The Guild Lord of whatever only let's certain people have them since he can control the entire reality of people who don't. It's a sign of status.

>>26517526
>The Dreamhunters are trying to create new cities, better cities, but they need more souls to live in them.
Of course, the Dreamhunters also need to make sure those souls all share the same Dream, lest the city collapse into the sea.

>>26517426
Yes, yes, a thousand times, yes!

>>26517565
OOH OOH! I like that! Maybe to give flexibility each player get's a Device and basically are freelancers for Guild Lords.

>>26517536
Artifact Hunters. They have the innate ability to take things from the Sea and bring them back to the City. Unimaginable magicks are discovered this way, but every time they tread farther into the sea to get more powerful artifacts they get closer to the dreamhunters

So could you kill someone by "shooting" him with a reality where he died five years ago in cancer, or...? I'm not quite sure I follow how this works.

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>>26517589
I like this. You're basically the only ones who can go in the Sea because you have a Device. The reason most people stay in cities no matter how shitty it is is because they physically CAN'T leave. The city is the only place they can exist.

>>26517614
That sounds bizarre and awesome, but I think you should just have two uses. One is to keep yourself real in the sea and the other to use spells.

Granted spells can be anything in this setting. That could easily be how you do things.

>>26517619
occasionally the players will find lost souls and have to escort them back to the city with their devices

>>26517619
This. This I like. There's one point, however...

>>26517589
I had first suggested the Dreamhunters with the idea of them being humans with Devices, that basically grabbed anyone who dared venture out.

While it's interesting if PCs are the only ones with Devices, we need to make sure that there are still other humans (or humanoids) with them. Otherwise, there's a much more limited interaction with NPCs, and the idea of forcing someone else into your reality becomes much less a part of the system.

One thing to bear in mind: How does the party maintain a single reality?

>>26517619
So what is outside in the sea? Abstract chaos? Creatures for various dimensions? Nothing?
I am incredibly confused.

>>26517648
We really need to put some limits on what spells can do, and what kind of spells a PC can master. Especially if this is supposed to be playable. It's really hard to make it interesting if everyone can do anything, then it's just like kids at the playground, going "NAH, YOU DIDN'T KILL ME, I HAVE A HUNDRED BILLION LIVES!"
"BUT MY GUN KILLS YOU A HUNDRED BILLION PLUS ONE TIMES!"

>>26517665
players aren't dreamhunters, they are Artifact Hunters

Difference being purpose. Players retrieve pieces of magic, dreamhunters capture souls for reasons unknown read : making new cities

players will have to go into the dreams of loners lost in the Sea to find the artifacts, and be harrased by the dreamhunters which should be immortal be destructible meaning that they reform when they are killed

>>26517667
Maybe it's just like a pool of random universes/dimensions/realities. Like Rifts if the Rifts would sometimes just collapse with you in it?

I guess the point would be you don't really know what it is, just if you don't have a Device you cease to be. There's still things that live out there, creatures who've gained the ability that Devices give man do to excess magic/dimension goo/plain ol wizard did it.

>>26517667
The Sea is, simply put, mutable space. With enough will and a Device, you can shape it to be whatever you want. You can exert control. A "gunfight" between two people in the Sea is effectively a battle of will that ends with one party having control of the other, be it the end that they are dead or servile. Out in the Sea, some do mention... entities. Things not bound by mind or reason. Whether there are sentient spells, extradimensional entities, or elementals... that is up to debate. But what it certain is that they are dangerous.

>>26517715
Hmm...then we need like a point based system. You have to have a theme for your spells that fits your "Devices Reality" also.

Let's say the Devices just create the same effect Guild Lords use for their cities but concentrated in one person. Mixing Devices (being in a party) is like Drifting in Pacific Rim maybe?

>>26517753
So it's basically Psychonauts, the RPG? I can dig this.

>>26517716
Ah, okay. It was starting to sound like Dreamhunters were some sort of native life form.

Carry on, then.

Is everything in the Sea a -hunter of some kind?

>Dream-hunters
The bandit-kings of their own small worlds. They snatch any they can and force them to serve in their fantasies.

>Artifact-hunters
They retrieve items and magic from the Sea and bring it back to the cities. It ain't a pretty job--hell, it's downright ugly--but they do it well, and it pays decently.

>Body-hunters
Those unfortunate enough to lose their Devices in the Sea. If they aren't found within a few days, their bodies will starve and die. Their consciousnesses, however, will live on, haunting the Sea. Hunters who don't keep their wits about them can sometimes be forced out of their own bodies, as the Body-hunter seeks a new lease on life.

>Bounty-hunters
Well, darlin', someone has to deal with the Dream-hunters. They're just bad for business, you know?

>>26517753
So like fights in the Sea are like mindfights in old comics? People affecting the world and shaping it? So let's say some guy who grew up in Fantasy Detroit, another was a chef or grew up in a kitchen, the two guys they're fighting are from like Cyber-Aztec would have a fight in some run down kitchen with Aztec/Industrial feel to it?

>>26517715
How about, since the Devices serve as defense against the sea, they also serve as defense against other Devices?

It should be easier to impose smaller changes than larger. Death should be very difficult. Turning a person into a tree should be a little easier. Making them like you should be even easier.

Maybe your reality should be a list of traits, and Devices can inject or remove those traits? With none, you are as the sea - a blank soul cast adrift in the chaos of un-reality. More traits give more reality, giving you more to affect with the Device (like hp), but Devices have a certain resistance (so players can't just give themselves a million hp), and adding or removing traits can damage that resistance.

>>26517767
What about Devices having different powers depending on what spells they're loaded with? That would allow PCs to switch powers between adventures. Of course, a spell still requires willpower, and it's not like you can just buy Devices in a store. Instead, "spell bullets" have to be carefully prepared by skilled mages, and are often loaded with memories, emotions, rare components and even souls.

Watch your back
Think Straight
Converse Spells
And never make a deal with a Arch Mage.

>>26517810
I like this. I love this. Makes fights so fucking dynamic!

>>26517839
Maybe a combo. Spells are like customizers. You have to keep your Devices "reality" straight so you can't throw crazy shit in, but a few of the right components can keep your portfolio diversified. So to speak.

>>26517768
Sort of. Like another anon stated, it's pretty much a fantastic combination of Shadowrun, Psychonauts/Inception, and the Points of Light default setting for 4e. There are places that normal people exist, small Cities in the midst of a massive Sea. These are the places that the players find employment. Objectives and missions. Some of them can be solved inside Cities, but for most of them they must enter the Sea. From the Crystal Cliffs to the Blazing Woods, the landscape and the... fauna in the Sea can be dangerous, but if you have a Device, you at least have a chance.

I'm not sure if I'd say that normals can't leave the cities, or simply that they would be like a level 1 commoner stepping out into the Blood Marches of Nazarog and getting gutted by the indigenous vermin.

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>>26517873
I liked the idea that just the fucking around Wizards did means you NEED a Device to run around. Makes it feel even more Dystopian.

>>26517873
Getting Persona 4 vibes. Which is good.

>>26517883
Here we see what happens when you have no Device the Sea.

Kavinsky is a perfect soundtrack to this game.

>>26517912
We need some NPCs. Let's think of the biggest five Guilds and their Guild Lords!

Maybe a few Cosmics and Tower Wizards?

>>26517889
Seconding this.

So where do people get food, energy and so on? Is The City literally a huge city, or does it have farmlands, wilderness and so on as well?
Or have people found an alternative to food?

>>26517810
I like this alot.

Whats a name for the setting?

Dreamhunters sounds cool. Mindbreakers maybe?

>>26517797
>Body-hunters
I like this one. Gives a vague sense of horror to what happens if you don't have your device.

>>26517889
Basically. It's sort of like a mixture of that MacGuffin from the Inception movies, a Caster from Outlaw Star, and a sheriff's star. Owning a Device sets you apart from the sheep of the cities.

I can certainly imagine things going very much in the way of Shadowrun in the assignments and interactions of player-characters in this setting, though replacing Mr. Johnson with the guild mages of cities, which in turn take up the position of the megacorps.

>>26517941
Depends on the Guild Lord. Some just use magic to create food. Makes it be completely in their control first off and people doing favors literally means they get more food.

Others might enjoy having Farmlands cause Wizards be crazy yo. Like I can see one having his Guild City be all 60s Retro Sci-Fi and making those food creaters from Jetsons and another having a Medieval Fuedal City with farmlands.

>>26517941
Probably works like mini-Ravnica. Condensed farm-halls, ruings being "reclaimed" by wilderness despite never truly losing the city-like aesthetic

So if we were to throw mechanics onto this, would every player have a domain and a style with a constant clash to assert one's domain and style where your domain gives static bonuses and penalties while your style lets transfer bonuses to your allies

So as a party you would try to only have one or two domains, such as tropical/forest/urban but everyone has their own styles so you can adjust to what you are fighting

LIke say you are fighting a speed lizard, you'd have the schizo teleporter take over in style so that everyone can outrun the fucking speed lizard, but if there was a giant iron golem, you'd instead let the muscle wizard play some dubstep and throb the entire dimension so you hit oh so much harder

Are Devices legal?

>>26517995
Depends on which form of reality you find yourself belonging to? I imagine in The City they'd be legal, but worth a lot and prone to theft.

>>26517995
Yes, but very restricted. They just don't hand out one to anyone.
Of course, they is probably ways to get your hands on one anyway (which could make it possible to make PCs who aren't connected to any of the guilds).

>>26517797
Fuck yea. I feel like the fights are really gritty. Like uh...Drive or Hotline Miami or some other Exploitation Flick that's just too realistic for it's own good. You're beating people with magic baseball bats but it's still a freaking baseball bat. Most fights start with sneaking up and the death of a guy cause straight on fights can leave you stranded with no spells.

>>26518014
Well their would be tons of Cities I'd think. Multiple Guilds usually are in one, but if you have a fuckton of power you just make your own City.

>>26517810
YES

>>26517990
This sounds awesome. What system should we use? D20?

>>26517990
I like this.

What kind of mechanics should it have? A dice pool system, where the tenets of reality fill your pool (so the more traits you impose locally, and the more traits shared amongst people, the more dice you have)? Or should it be a roll against type system?

I know that this is a setting thread, but we really, really need someone to tackle the crunch so I can play the shit out of this.

>>26518077
>dice pool
Only if it's something like TBZ or L5R. The WoD dicepools are shit.

>>26518029
I don't know I really like that. I do like the idea that one guy put that battlegrounds in the Sea are made by the participants Devices though. That could be a good way of knowing someones around. Your teams reality is changing.

>>26518074
nah, something with dice pool to make the modifiers easier, I think

Legend of Zelda RPG would work nicely I think.

>>26517990

I want to be a speed lizard

That is some kind of chameleon man in a lab coat right?

Are there non-human entities? Maybe "mind ghosts", ideas, dreams, nightmares and memories given form by either a Device or chaotic nature of the Sea itself? Maybe they sometimes form accidentally when an area is stabilized by a Device? As in, a stray bit of emotional energy gets caught in your reality "bubble", and suddenly you've got a pure Obsessive Compulsive Disorder elemental to deal with? That would add an extra level of danger.

>>26518093
nWoD is good.

Have a system where you have certain things your Device influences and make those add up to Dice pools.

>>26518119
>Maybe "mind ghosts"

>>26517797
>>Body-hunters
>Those unfortunate enough to lose their Devices in the Sea. If they aren't found within a few days, their bodies will starve and die. Their consciousnesses, however, will live on, haunting the Sea. Hunters who don't keep their wits about them can sometimes be forced out of their own bodies, as the Body-hunter seeks a new lease on life.

>>26518124
I was talking about nWoD.

>>26518104
I don't know IF I really like that I meant. I think the battles should be absurd with the spells. Granted a good Operator team would just slit the bad guys throats before they knew they were there cause fuck man magic costs shit.

>>26518119
I like that

Want to use your Device? Well let's see what you create

Oh look at that! A sprout of Good Feeling fairies appear to heal you all back to full health!

Really?

Nooooo. You ran into a Phobia! and it's mighty fucking angry right now!

>>26518139
Hence why I said it was good. I like nWoD.

Granted I haven't played many Dice Pool systems so I'm just DnDing with my systems right now.

>>26518149
>fuck man magic costs shit
Oh, yes. All my yes. I'm just treasuring the thought of a party getting chewed out by their contractor because they kept casting FUCKING spells on the FUCKING job, when they should have just FUCKING taken the FUCKER out! This magic costs money, damn it!

Should you have two healths? Device and Physical?

>>26518155
TBZ's dice pool setup is nice because you can influence your target number and the number of dice. Meaning that it's actually possible to emulate having any skill whatsoever.

>>26518166
we could take this to a whole new level

Dare you enter my magical realm?

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>>26517928
I might crack a shot at this, though the name's for a character that I'd probably play if I were ever to get into a game in this setting. Let's see what happens.

Larua. Something of an engima -- the one thing that leaders of Cities seem to share -- Larua has long since shed of a human body, if it ever had one in the first place. Appearing as a humanoid with eight arms and four faces that seem made of porcelain. Dressed in heavy robes, four of the arms are always held close with the hands held in static poses that hold symbolic meaning in the Cult of Spectres that is dominant in Larua's City, Solace. It speaks with four voices in a eerie harmony, its words often coming with a blue haze that comes from its four unmoving lips and forms images relevant to what it is discussing. Its goals, however, are simple. Relics of the future dead.

Solace is a somber city, sheltered in a simple tower that rises out of a still lake. There is no method for leaving to city by foot, much less crossing the inky water that forms Solace's foundation, though that rarely stops those with Larua's blessing from enter or leaving the city. The architecture of the circular column seems rife with ornamentation, a mixture of funerary motifs and those of drama. Its citizens are well-known both for their respect for the dead as well as brief auguries, even among those without Devices.

>>26518133
I was thinking more about something that's not the remains of a human mind, but instead just a tiny sliver of it. Imagine how dangerous Paranoia, Fear of Dying Alone or Traumatic Childhood Experience would be given flesh, but without any reason or real sentience to guide them.

>>26518124
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>>26518093

I was thinking crunch-wise, your character sheet would consist of a list of positive and negative traits. Each trait that is "in reality," or present and active in the scene, gives you a die. So having a homogenous group makes them powerful - until the world shifts.

Those traits are your spells. Using them is rolling them. Resisting effects would probably be rolling traits that aren't present.

There should be a limit on the number of traits possible. I like 6 for an arbitrary average.

>>26518159
So the guy with the Device would be using his fucking gun most of the time....WAIT GUNS NEVER WERE MADE! Like maybe they were but the world fucked up so bad no one remembers how anything really works if it isn't magic. So any non-Device is a melee weapon or a bow or something. That way the MindRunner (I'm calling the PCs that till otherwise noted) can have a gun Device but has no idea guns are real things. Like he watched Lethal Weapon as a kid but thought those were just weird Devices.

>>26518211
Why not 8? 8 is perfectly symetical and perfect and can be divided into 1, 2, 4 or 8 equal groups.

>>26518190
I'm thinking of the Wizzards Guild. It's not pleasent

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This is probably the most creative /tg/ thread I've seen in months. Keep it up guys.

I could imagine throwing my party against an elderly man with Parkinson's, and having it be a major challenge.

>>26518201
What if those come from decaying Body-hunters? Over time, the mind fragments and splits into component parts.

I'm really trying to avoid native inhabitants of the Sea. Everything there should come from a person's mind.

>>26518222
>MindRunner (I'm calling the PCs that till otherwise noted)
It's already been noted as Artifact Hunter

>>26518239
fucking earthquakes man, so OP

So this is a setting where the player can physically change the environment, and where combat is as much about willpower as physical violence? Personally, I'd use FATE for this.

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>>26518239
>I could imagine throwing my party against an elderly man with Parkinson's, and having it be a major challenge.
mfw

>>26518247
Aww that's a boring name for a system! I think we should get a broader one seriously though. Having Artifact Hunter, Bounty-Hunter, plus whatever else Guilds might have freelancers run for them should have a distinct name. That's not Freelancer cause that's boring.

>>26518195
With this, I guess I was learning a bit more away from guilds and rather having Cities be relatively self-contained. They are built out of a powerful mage's willpower. I doubt they're really want to share that space. Hence the usage of those with Devices, to act as their hands outside of the city as well as against other mages. Rather than guilds, you end up with domains that are directly sculpted by the mage that created them.

Just my two cents. And I could still totally see guilds, but as much lower-power things.

>>26518240
They're not "native" to the Sea, they're stray thoughts that once belonged to a human. They are, however, incapable of reasoning or thinking like a human, since you need a whole, complete mind for that, and not just a single motion or idea. Some could be the remains of dead people, others are just drifting dreams that leaked out of people's heads.

>>26518235
Because I have a big lego 6 next to my desk, so it was the first number I thought of.

8 is fine. 12 is fine too, as it allows more groupings. But there has to be some kind of limit beyond "We stop playing when the player's brains melt."

Or, maybe not.

>>26518277
I was thinking that High-Powered Mages just run the Guilds to keep the city completely under them. Like they run the city but they have guys under them for the stuff that's not fun. PCs would call them Guilds cause you need a name for a recurring system.

>>26518247
Artifact Hunter is a terrible name. So generic and uninspired. You need one that sounds exciting and evocative.

>>26518240
I sort of disagree with not having Natives to the Sea. Especially as a magical distopia, to limit yourself only with humans and the minds they possess, well... limits you. I'd prefer to up both the dystopia and the alien-ness of the Sea a bit. As I suppose shows in the mage that I offered up being a little more out there than just a man in a robe and a boner for power. When you have the mental willpower to not only sculpt that massive of an area of the Sea into a static domain but also to keep it that way for any appreciable time, you're already slipping off the scale from a human to something... stranger.

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Imagine a world where this little shit was nothing more than an average thug.

>>26518303
Since the PCs run around the Sea a ton maybe something with Sailor in it? Mind Sailor? Spell Sailor? Sea Runner? Sea Drifter?

>>26518325
What are you talking about man? He was a fucking Guild Lord.

>>26518276
That wasn't the name for the system, it was the term for PCs.

Can some mental illnesses make someone more powerful? Say someone with OCD can have a rather powerful, orderly view of the world. Or what about others like dementia, autism, or schizophrenia?

And what about mind altering drugs? Perhaps an old artifact hunter who has gone mad uses hallucinogenics to create incredible realities

>>26518326
Too fruity. And it's not like we're going for a nautical theme, seems it's more -punk and psychology themed.

>>26518303
Hunting Dreams

>>26518319
You can still have horrifying things in the Sea.

They just all come from someone's mind.

God help us all if someone with H.P. Lovecraft's imagination got lost in the Sea.

>>26518301
So you have high-powered mages [ Lords / Nobles ] who create organizations [ Guilds] to police their mentally-sculpted domains [ Cities / Domains / Islands ] that rely on a mixture of self-policing cities and Device-wielding soldiers of substantial will-power [ xRunners / Seekers ] ?

>>26518346
It's a terrible name for the PCs. It's really just one step less boring than just calling them Adventurers.

Wow I just had a disturbing thought...so the City you are in makes the afterlife you get when you die. And if you die in the Sea you just cease to exist.

This is a very Nihilistic setting.

>>26518350

I imagine a lot of illnesses would provide some sort of bonus to offense, but would suffer penalties if their realities are forced to crumble.

>>26518222
Why were guns never made? One of the three core pictures has a gun in it.

Though I suppose that's technically a Device, the fact that a Device can take the form of a gun implies that guns exist.

>>26518369
which is why most people don't go to the god damn Sea, there be monsters out there where the map doesn't go

>>26518369
We don't know what happens if you die in the Sea.

That's the other half of the setting.

>>26518364
Yea. Then you'd have Cosmics (Mages who just left to live in the Sea. Lovecraft more than Lords).

>>26518362
But also think about the possibilities you have when also inserting as a rarity strange, non-Human things. Things that cannot be understood nor predicted. Be they extradimensional things or simply the Sea given form.

>>26518376
It was but I'd say the fucking around mages did means it exists if the Guild Lord wants it to exist. Like the idea of a gun is only real in certain parts.

>>26518326
Gold Dreamer
Dream Sailors
Sea Navigators
Cartographers

>>26518376
Guy who came up with the magic guns idea here. Actually, I reasoned that guns had never existed in this world, and the devices just happen to look like the machines we would call "guns" in our world. It's fantasy, it doesn't have to make perfect sense.

>>26518399
Hm, maybe change Cosmics to fit the vague-feudal feel of the other titles? What would you call a Noble that refused the stability of his Domain? An Exile? Ascetic? Hermit?

>>26518401
I'd say that certain parts of the Sea are more "concrete" than others. So like those ruins with the Artifact you need to get. It stays there, maybe because of the Artifact, but it stays there and things have grown there.

>>26518420
Just call them Seamen, as it seems you're going for flamboyance.

>>26518420
Pyschographers?

>>26518401
Those things can come from within the human mind. Jung came up with some interesting concepts that might be worth exploring.

>>26518430
Exile sounds good. You know what it means pretty well. Hermit could be those Tower Mages that the post at the top talked about. Tower Hermit maybe?

>>26518438
I prefer a more mundane name. They are essentially grave robbers and tomb defilers. A simple name can help make people forget about that.

But I am a fan of simple names for things.

>>26518438
I kinda like that...not sure though

>>26518449
We need super-slang for this. Like Shadowrunner slang.

Exiles gets shortened to X's.
Guild Lords/Nobles/Ladies is changed to Big G's.
Stuff like that.

>>26518472
I'd go for Sailors then. The mess around with the Sea. It fits.

>>26518489
Agreed. Sailors is nice

>>26518432
Certainly. A place or an object with enough power would likely stabilize, basically placing its own interference with the Sea to create sites. From ruins to constantly-reenacting plays.

OP here! I'm pretty impressed with what we've created.

>>26518474
Shorter than Exile, Lord, Domain, xRunner, and Guild?

>>26518539
More like it's a slang code for Sailors to know only. Keeps peasants and Guildies from hearing too much.

One thing I like about this setting is the implied friendship and cooperation between party members. It would be absolutely impossible to maintain a party otherwise. Supporting each other's realities is a way to bring a bit of the safe harbor of the city with them.

It's a pleasant thought in an otherwise terrifying nightmare of a world.

>>26518566
>Friendship protects us against the imaginable horrors of the sea
Cheesy, but I love that kind of shit. Especially in a dystopian world.

>>26518566
Yea. Like a starting party (if we're keeping with the "Sharing Device-Realities is like Drifting" thing) would know most of how the other guys grew up. You'd make a connection that will hurt when it's broken. Can you think of sharing a Reality with someone when they die?

>>26518587
It's the happiest thought you'll find haha.

>>26518566
Reminds me of Fetters, from Nechronica.

http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=Nechronica

>>26518625
It just occurred to me to mention, the Fetters are described under Madness.

>>26518597

Parties could be composed of siblings, childhood friends, and spouses.

>>26518392
>>26518369
>>26518401
If you die in the Sea, what's left of you becomes a fey.

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Let me try my hand at this NPC creation.

The Grand Noble Rizmarc the Benevolent came to power during a rebellion against the City of Arches ruler Pain Lord Nix. Nix was not a benevolent man, quite obvious due to his Pain surname, and ruled harshly and swiftly. His Pain Guild were bullies and Nix plain didn’t have time to deal with things in the city instead studying for long periods of time. That was when Rizmarc attacked, a long time member of the Pain Guild he found himself unable to quiet his concience and had secretly trained and outfitted his own rebel group with Devices. When he attacked it was quick, brutal, and well..Nix’s surname-ful. When he reached Nix’s underground study with his closest allies Nix only had this to say. “Someday you’ll be just like me.”

He wasn’t lying. He instituted a new rule, his rebel allies making up the new Guild and the Pain Guild becoming slaves and stripped on their Devices. The peasents of the city rejoiced. Finally a Lord who will protect us! Like all men Rizmarc slowly succembed to the power. At first it was small, a curfew for young people to stop muggings. Then he shut down the Council of Nobles that ruled the city. Then he lowered the curfew. Then he started scrying the entire city 24 hours. He never stopped, new laws “for protection” are put in every day.

Rizmarc the Benevolent hires mostly to find objects to increase his power and tortures the Pain Guild daily to find out how Nix became so powerful.

>>26518798
Eh I'd like it if your last thoughts just become sentient. Like "Becoming Fey" sounds like there's a place for you afterwards. I'd rather you're just excess thoughts that a Fey may eat.

>>26518824
Anyone who wants to keep talking send me an email. We can get on skype or something for it and finish it. Email in the info

>>26518824
I said "What's left of you." Not "You."

I'm thinking the original fey. Capricious, inhuman creatures. They inhabit the Sea, without devices, and enjoy tormenting hunters.

After all, their only way to reproduce is to kill. From the corpse of the human, a new fey will be born.

>>26518886
Actually that sounds great tbh. We need more things to kill and die from in the Sea.

>>26518879
Why not just keep the thread going? We have a while yet until autosage.

>>26518899
I agree, but I also think that they all need to come from humans. I really enjoy the horrors all potentially coming from PCs.

If you lose your Device, you'll give rise to a Body-hunter. If you die, you'll give rise to a fey.

There needs to be a way to get the truly cosmic horrors out of a person's mind and into the Sea. Thoughts?

>>26518935
I suppose you'd technically BECOME a Body-hunter, since their entire gimmick is stealing bodies to get another life. That's still you in there, just driven mad by near-death.

Fey are new entities born from your death, though.

>>26518905
I just wanted to make sure we have a place to keep this going since it's dying down a bit.

Anyone know how to make a Google Doc editable by other people?

>>26518953
God this settings grim...BUT FRIENDSHIP WILL PROTECT YOU!

So do you think that Sailors should be ex-Guildies or something?

>>26518935
How about a persons mind simply breaks if their reality gets forced out too aggressively. The mind tears open, creating a flood of creation through their device. It exists at the very moment of mind breaking trauma. It washes and engulfs others and makes them feel what it feels.

It is best to avoid these abominations

>>26518980
In true sailor fashion, they can come from anywhere. All they need are the guts to venture out into the unknown

>>26519001
Yes! Possible backlash that the Dream-hunters have to be careful to avoid. Keeps their numbers slightly lower and means that those who do exist have to be careful motherfuckers.

>>26519013
Devices are rare...so hmm...it'll be fun at character creation learning how the players got a Device.

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>>26519001
>Witches

>>26519038
Its an exclusive club, but members come from all walks of life.

As for obtaining a device, it can be issued to you by a guild, it can be a family heirloom, it could of been buried treasure. Or maybe you stole it from someone.

>>26519062
Holy fuck this is Magicka Runner

So what haven't we gotten down besides NPCs?

We've got what players do in the game.
We've got what the players fight in the game.
We've got how Cities work.
We've got how the Sea works.
We've gotten what NPCs are if not who.

Crunch and how Devices work is all I can think of and that's basically the same thing.

>>26519114
It's really more like When the Magicka Runners Cry at this point, really. Hence the Erika dress.

>>26518369
>so the City you are in makes the afterlife you get when you die
Where is that?

>>26519325
Each powerful wizard has his own city, sometimes multiple powerful wizards will be in the same one. Since they basically make the rules for the reality in their city the afterlife is there puppet also.

>>26518809
I like this but I think that he should be keeping Nix alive but trapped because Rismarc doesn't know how to keep the Reality from collapsing so he just uses Nix's reality. Like he's using Nix as a big human Device.

Are we going to have mechanics too? If we keep this stored somewhere like >>26518954 suggested we could continue building on it

>>26519662
I'm starting a Skype thing right now. If you wanna join add Booshcocklepie to skype

>>26519703
Sorry, I reject Skype on wiretap grounds.

Regards from /g/

>>26520008
So you have email?

>>26520079
I did until lavabit died. I'm in the process of setting up my desktop as a mail server.

>>26519473
Which in part is why Nix's last words are that Rismarc will be just like him. Because even while Rismarc is assuming control, he's still living within the shell that Nix created. Those ideas, though thoughts are still there and when power went to his head, it was Nix's instincts that crept in.

>>26519448
I would also stress that multiple Nobles in one city would not only be rare but really shaky ground. Sort of like the Drift connection that was mentioned earlier, when two Nobles create a city together it is a reflection of both of their wills. Dissonance between the two would be potentially catastrophic and just as dangerous as living in the Sea. Perhaps moreso, as with the Sea it's simply a given that you're in the Chaos Primordium. As opposed to living in a city and suddenly you have a mindquake because the Noble's minds clashed in how to resolve an issue.

>>26520109
Man I'm thinking of big splits in the middle of a city, multicolored cities, and shit like that. Just both minds competing for control but understanding any big push could shatter it.

>>26520312
Hey go ahead and join the Skype conversation about the setting! We'll just finishing stuff and fluffing it more! Soon crunch will happen!

>>26520397
I've sent an email, although I don't know what I can do without Skype. Short from convincing everyone to switch away from a proprietary VoIP client/service/protocol

>>26520408
As long as it has an App I'm willing. Mess around on my iPad much more than my pc and my pc is a hunk a junk.

>>26520459
Sorry, I'm pretty sure that there isn't an iOS (or any mobile) app, at least for the client I use. Any XMPP-compliant client would be able to communicate, however.

I don't have an iDevice, though, so I can't test any to see if they're any good or not. If you don't want to go through the trouble, you really don't have to, but searching something like "XMPP VoIP iOS" should yield some results.

I'm perfectly happy communicating solely through email and Google Docs or whatever other document-sharing service we might use.

>>26520574
Sounds like group emails might be good. Maybe google hangout?

>>26520858
I don't have a Google Account, so it would have to work with other emails.

As far as organizing projects goes, Trello is a pretty good choice (that I only learned about recently).

>>26520887
If you want, I could set up a Trello board right now, although we'd need a working name for the project

sage for double posting

>>26520915
Sent you an email bro. Lets just email from now on so we don't scuttle up the board with each other

A place like Renaissance Europe inhabited mostly by humans, human offshoots, and talking arthropods. There are short, stout, grouchy little crabmen who are master shipbuilders and architects. There are also comparatively frail gypsy moths with psionic powers. Humans have evolved into three different subspecies, the wise Non of the west, the barbarian Thals of the north, and the nomadic Altu of the south. Crude firearms exist in this world and are beginning to phase out bows and arrows. People are sailing out over the ocean to explore newly discovered lands and colonize. Rumors of beings long thought legend such as giants, sea monsters, and titanic flying beast from high in the sky draw adventurers from near and far.

The human subspecies derive their names from the last syllable of archaic human species, Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal, and H. Sapiens Idaltu.

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The Domain called Renhala is a simple place consisting of little more than a quaint farming village nestled at the crook of a still river. The people work their fields to provide a bountiful harvest every year, blessed by perfect seasons. Food is supplemented by hunting in the woods that ring the fields and fish from the river, and it seems like there is rarely a week which passes without a merry if simple festival.

The Noble of this Domain is simply known as Elder, taking the form of a wizened old crone who is always happy to see company or settle disputes between villagers. She rests in the small longhouse in the center of the town, seemingly always stirring up a bowl of stew. Though out of the corner of your eye, sometimes it seems that her shadow doesn't quite match her body. Though that's liable to just be a trick of the eyes. After all, the longhouse is thick with woodsmoke and the scent of that fine stew. Who cares, after all? Just sit down and rest a while.

Vote for the thread on SupTG!

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Kas is a dangerous Domain, a land of damp, dark jungles and overgrown ruins. The land seems caught in a perpetual state of dawn, a blood red sun coloring the clouds on the horizon while a large moon above refuses to be defeated. And that spirit runs through all that survive within it. Predators wait in every shadow, waiting for prey to make a single mistake and reward their patience with a kill. Others take a more brutal approach, forcing their way through the jungle with savage strength and uprooting prey wherever it might seek shelter. For while Kas is a land of predators, there is certainly prey eking out an existance. Kas' subjects are a hearty group, broadly built and sturdy. Green skin helps them blend into their surroundings, and tusks not only show prestige among competing males but act as a weapon of last resort against predators.

The Noble of Kas is unknown, though the savage tribes that live in the jungle all revere the Great Serpent, said to be a massive snake who's end is his beginning that dwells beneath the roots.

>>26516977
>You can vote down any picture, three votes and its gone.
Given some amount of time any pic will be voted out, since at least 3 guys will hate it

>>26524420
It makes sense for a single thread though. Sure eventually that'll happen but while everyone's throwing out ideas only a few vetoes will happen.

Makes sure it's not super fetishy.