>>29491175
http://pastebin.com/EBPnZfRz

In case anyone hasn't seen it yet

>>29491213
And here's the archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Saiyan

Somnius, I'm a bit cross at you for not archiving yesterday, I specificly reminded you when I went to bed!

>>29491175
turm up the Gs and buff up

Your ship is prepared.

It took only moments for Fita's parents to attach a space pod to the ship, as you requested. They also made sure the ship was properly stocked with enough food to feed a hungry saiyan and his crewmates for however long the voyage takes. They confirm that the gravity chamber is up and running, and that the ship is fueled up.

"Everything is prepared for your departure, my lord" the male tells you. "We are certain you will find the ship to your liking."

"In addition, we have locked down all of the other ships, as you requested" the female tells you. "Is there anything else you would ask of us before you depart?"

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29491175
Tell Mr. Sulu to chart a course for Namek, engage, then retire to our workout area (if there is one), REV UP THOSE G'S and lift.

>>29491385
>A.
That'll be all, thanks very much.
>B.
Instruct the crew that we are to be heading to Namek and then do some base form gravity training.

>>29491385
>B Straight to training, no rest for the wicked. And make sure to invite all the crew members so they can get stronger.

>>29491385
>A
Nothing else, you've been a great help.
>B
Tell Mr. Sulu to chart a course for Namek, engage, then retire to our workout area (if there is one), REV UP THOSE G'S and lift until something interesting pops up on our scanners. Like a sentient space cloud, or something.

>>29491385
working on anything special?

>>29491385
I think we should address the crew. let them know they worked for cold, so you don't exactly trust them, but now that he's gone, as long as non of them try anything, they're safe

or something like that

>>29491458
This, plus let them know the name of their new ship.

>>29491473
Which I think we should re-christen the NSE Enterprise.

A lot less abrasive than "Vanguard". Vanguard, in military parliance, implies that there's more where that came from and that we plan to use them.

You know, I think we could totally start a new empire now.

now that we have so many super saiyans, and we beat Cold, there isn't much left to challenge us.

since Vegeta was planning this already, im sure he has a plan set up. you don't just order hundreds of space ships made for nothing. once everything is set with Bardock and Earth, we could get started on the NSE

>>29491529
Why should we have an empire? Everyone seems happy on Earth as they are, and we saw what happened every other time we tried to make an Empire.

>>29491529
I don't understand why we'd want to, considering Freeza, Cooler and Cold.

>>29491529
>>29491551
When we spoke with Vegeta, the idea was to run it much more like a federation with a peacekeeping force at the very top rather than as a unitary polity.

>>29491551
well we can't just let some tyrant screw with all those other planets, and now that there's a power vacuum with all the cold family dead. Vegeta obviously wanted it, and I'm saying we're probably gonna be along for the ride anyway

>>29491593
this is exactly what I meant. empire doesnt automatically mean its gonna be evil, we could set it up democratically, more like a coalition to protect planets from people like Frieza, Cooler and Cold

>>29491385
>B.
Top gravity setting training in base form until we pass out for the entire trip.

>>29491413
>>29491417
>>29491422
>>29491458
>>29491473
"Working on anything special?" you ask.

"At the moment, we are deciding how best to continue making this planet more pleasing for the Saiyans" the male tells you. "We were supposed to work with an Earth based organization known as Capsule Corporation to transport some animals and set up an ecosystem here."

"But, with the Earth destroyed, we will need to give some thought about where to go from here" the female tells you. "We will contact you or Prince Vegeta if we come up with any ideas."

"That will be all" you tell them. "You've been a big help."

As they leave, you turn to address the alien you have dubbed "Mr. Sulu", a yellow skinned alien with small eyes. You tell him to set course for Namek, and he rushes to do as you have instructed. The ship takes off at once, and you soar at amazing speeds towards Namek.

>A. Sleep

>B. Eat

>C. Contact the others

>D. Train

>E. Timeskip

>>29491794
No. We've never trained under specific gravity levels, and we're much weaker in our base form.

We ramp it up until we feel the burn, then work at that level until it's not painful anymore. Then up the gravity. Work up to the maximum setting.

>>29491827
D

>>29491827
>D.

>>29491827
>C
"Got a new ship from Mars, be there pretty soon."
then >D
Start in base form at 50g, then increase the gravity until it's difficult to move. Then train until we can move normally. Then up the gravity.

>>29491827
C.
Make sure they know we got offworld alright.

>>29491827
>C Ask them to train with you, to see their capabilities.
>D >>29491828 what this guy said

>>29491827
>the alien you have dubbed "Mr. Sulu", a yellow skinned alien with small eyes.
das racist

>>29491902
also, hilarious

Are we not wishing Earth back until later?

>>29491827
>D.
>E.

>>29491873
>>29491879
>>29491882
You head to the cockpit, and open a radio communication with the two ships that the others are using to reach Namek.

"You're alright!" Spina says happily.

"Glad to see you're still in one piece" Salta tells you.

"Once again, you survive against all odds. We could make a drinking game for every time you survive something crazy" Fita comments.

"Thanks for the warning, I was able to get my family off planet, and Fluffy too!" Bulma tells you.

>A. Say something

>B. End call

Geez, this is still going on? You should really just put it out of its misery already.

>>29492013
Never!

>>29491995
We'll meet on namek and from there we can wish back earth and bardock. and if the dragonballs were distroyed, we need to wish those back. once we go back to earth, we can use those dragonballs to wish all life on earth was back to the way it was before cold blew it up. minus cold and his men obviously

>>29491995
"So, what's the status? What's the plan?
I take it we have to use the Namekian Dragon bollocks to wish back earth, and the earth ones to wish back all the life that was destroyed on it?
Also, how does that work now, with the earth dragonballs destroyed in the blast? We gotta wish them back too?"

>>29491995
>A
"Never let it be said I didn't do the least I could do."

"Anyway, this new ship's pretty incredible. I have Cold's former crew here to help work out any bugs with the new technology, but it seems solid. We may even catch up with you at some point."

>>29492088
this

>>29492088
Kami can make a new set, but if I remember right it takes a LOT to destroy a dragonball and they follow their creator if he abandons the world he's on.

>>29492056
>>29492088
these two have it right.

lots of wishes going around right now

>>29492153
>>29492150
>>29492103
>>29492088
>>29492056
"So, what's the status?" you ask. "What's the plan? I take it we have to use the Namekian Dragon Balls to wish back Earth, and then the Earth ones to wish back all life that was destroyed on it. But how will that work now, with them destroyed in the blast, do we have to wish them back too?"

"No, I still live, and the balls survive so long as I do" you hear Kami say.

>A. Say something

>B. End call

>>29492355
>A
"Good news? From Kami? That's new... and I like it. So, one on Namek for the planet back, one on Namek for Bardock back, and Earth's for all of life on Earth sound good?"

"Damn, why is it we always seem to have one left over?"

>>29492355
That's great news. I suppose we should set up someone as the guardian of mars as well. we can use the third wish for that

>>29492419
Sounds good to me.

we should not forget that we ned the namek balls to revive Bradock. earthballs don't work on him anymore, no?

>>29492544
so far we have

Namek:
Revive earth
Revive bardock
Make someone guardian of mars

Earth:
revive all native life on earth that was destroyed when it exploded

sounds good to everyone?

>>29492355
So king piccolo died and dr gero died? The androidcyborgs? Did they survive? Shouldn't kami be dead?

>>29492633
shhhhhh dont give Som ideas

>>29492633
>>29492573
>>29492544
>>29492541
>>29492452
>>29492419
"Wait, Kami...I think I remember you saying something about someone named Piccolo, and if he died..." you begin, only to be interrupted by the sound of a body hitting the floor.

"Well, Kami just died" Salta says.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29492573
also we might want to leave a message for vegeta on mars. he might be a little pissed when he returnes to earth just to find a few boulders drifting in space, and everybody gone to god knows where, not giving him an upate of what happened

>>29492665
Why did I open my mouth?!

>>29492665
>A
Why didn't you catch him?!
Why did you just let his body hit the floor?!

>>29492665
What about Popo? No way a planet exploding could kill him. Right?

>>29492665
so, when we go on about reviving earth, we should include it's native population and his guardian, if possible

i thought he is bound to the lookout. so he should reapear as soon as the lookout reapears

>>29492731
Namekian balls cant revive more than one person at a time so we need to wish the population back with the earth dragon balls


Namek:
Wish Earth back
Wis Bardock back
Wish Kami back

Earth:
Wish native life on earth back like it was before Cold arrived

>>29492729
He's probably on the ship too.

>>29492760
Before cold arrived? I hope this isn't some monkeys paw wish.

>>29492760
in DBZ wishing back one brings back the other.

Make sure we wish earth back first so piccolo isnt floating in space and dies again

then wish back Kami and him and Piccolo will be back.


But piccolo will be freed

whatever he was at like 200 PL right?

>>29492731
could we just wish back all life cooler and cold killed on earth as one wish? this would include kami, bradock, all the other life on earth, and we would still ahve 2 wishes back on namek ()for planet and guardian of mars

>>29492801
namekian balls cant wish more than one persona back. bardock was already revived with earth balls, so we need namekian balls for him, and since we need the earth balls back, we need to wish kami back with namek balls

holy shit its complicated when you have to explain it

>>29492801
>>29492760
i see
damnit

>>29492665
>A
"Oh, for the love of Popo..."

"Guess that's the third Namek wish accounted for."

>>29492800
everyone needs to remember this.

wish earth back, then Kami or else piccolo will die in space since earth wasnt there

piccolo wont be a problem at all once we get back

>>29492699
We already did that last thread.

>>29492828
Dragon Ball, the only setting where men can talk about grabbing balls without sounding gay.

>>29492867
wish earth back, then bradock, then kami
kami might be essential to repopulate earth, but damn, family gotta take priority

>>29492880
>>29492874
>>29492867
>>29492860
>>29492828
>>29492825
>>29492801
>>29492795
>>29492777
>>29492760
>>29492750
>>29492731
>>29492729
>>29492711
>>29492700
>>29492699
"Oh, for the love of Popo, why did I open my mouth?" you groan. "And why didn't you catch him?"

"We weren't exactly expecting him to just drop dead" Fita tells you.

>A. Say something

>B. End call

>>29492874
oh, k. did'nt stay to the end of it, MET can be a bitch for questing. thx for the update. also, how did cold die?

>>29492899
fair enough.


also, we should spend some time with Nail. poor guy must get lonely.

hang with nail then wishes. we aren't exactly in a huge rush right now.

>>29492907
"We can revive him on Namek. see you there I have to get to training"
then end the call

>>29492929
this

>>29492920
Twitching and pissing himself from us having fucked his central nervous system.

>>29492907
"Well, I guess we'll just have to deal with that later. Call me whenever you feel like it until we get there."

then end the call and hit the gravity room.

>>29492929
this
then gravity Chamber

>>29492929
>>29492980
>>29493064
"We can revive him on Namek" you say. "Call me if you like, for now, I'm gonna go train" you say, ending the call.

You exit the cockpit and walk to the gravity room. A computer sits in its center, from which you can set the gravity to whatever you wish up to 500 times Earth.

>A. Choose a setting

>B. Leave

>>29493128
Let's try taking it easy, we don't want to end up at Namek half dead.

A. 350x.

>>29493128
>A. Test x50 Grav.

>>29493128
50X

>>29493128
Go Low. 50x should be fine, no more than 100x until we know we can handle it

>>29493128
>A
Start low, work up.

>>29493064
damn, too bad the thread wasn't archived

>>29493195
this

>>29493128
low for starters. we don't want to die on the flight or have to power up too much and destroy the ship

>>29493128
i'd say, starting at ten, then gradually ref up the grav till we seem to slow down. then train till we no longer feel slow. rinse, repeat

>>29493195
>>29493227
>>29493257
>>29493284
You set the machine to fifty times Earth gravity.

You feel the change almost immediately, everything feels heavier. But....you are not slowed down by this, and you can stand very easily. Honestly, the red room at the lookout was much harder than this.

>A. Turn it up

>B. Something else

>>29493476
A.
Continue turning up the dial until it becomes hard enough to train under, then stop.

If I try and guess at numbers I'll end up killing us.

>>29493476
X75

>>29493476
x200

>>29493493
This.

>>29493493
seconded

>>29493493
This. And be sure to do it in normal form, it would be pointless to go super saiyan here.

>>29493493
This.
Train until we pass out.

>>29493713
Just short of that, if we pass out when gravity is difficult for us it could be a problem. Don't want to end up bedridden for the trip.

>>29493753
Yup.

>>29493753
The zenkai we'd get would probably still be worth it. Just look at the other times we didn't train until unconsciousness.

>>29493910
Even so, it isn't the best time for it. We want to be awake for Namek or whatever happens on the way there.

>>29494000
This. Also, Zenkai doesn't just work when we pass out. It works when we push ourselves nearly to the breaking point. That's how we can use the red room without passing out and still get stronger off it.

>>29493493
this

>>29493493
>>29493494
>>29493607
>>29493625
>>29493645
>>29493663
>>29493713
>>29493753
>>29493885
>>29493910
>>29493910
>>29494000
>>29494067
>>29494081
You continue to increase the gravity, but it continues to have no real effect on you. You bring the machine all the way up to five hundred times Earth's gravity, but still, it does nothing. It seems your training in the Red Room brought you to more intense gravity than this machine can provide.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29494201
>B
Turn off the machine, take a nap.

>>29494201
well.. shit
then it's back to the old pushup-squat-situp routine.
leave the gravitiy on, start training anyways, because what else would we do

>>29494201
I just had a crazy idea. Could we use our psychic abilities to convince our body that it's functioning under heavy gravity?

>>29494292
more importantly: if it works: can we switch it off?

>>29494201
Since we can't do much else on the ship, how about we turn Super saiyan 2 and meditate, try to adjust to the form and quell that god complex bloodlust. Unless we don't think we can avoid damaging the ship if we do that, I'm not sure how physically controlled that transformation is yet.

>>29494292
That wouldn't actually do anything though. Just make us act sluggish when we really aren't being effected.

>>29494237
>>29494254
>>29494423
Vote

>>29494423
The idea is that our body would be resisting its own movements, almost like wearing weighted clothing.

Except really, really heavy.

>>29494459
I'd go >>29494423 with a caveat: turn SSJ2 WHILE meditating.

>>29494479
The idea is ridiculous and would never work. We'd have more luck teaching ourselves to use ki to damage our own body.

...Huh. Still gonna go with super saiyan 2 meditation though.

>>29494506
...That's what I meant, yes.

>>29494423
cause transforming last time broke the ki proof room

>>29494592
Partly because we did that while enraged.

>>29494423
>>29494506
>>29494578
So, going SS2 wins, good luck

>>29494637
>good luck
...Don't you dare blow up the ship, Som. Dick move.

>>29494637
shit
whatstheworstthatcouldhappen.jpg

>>29494637
Oh and SUPPRESS OUR POWER LEVEL

Seriously we be shining like a beacon over the galaxy

>>29494707
>>29494722
>>29494774
The idea was to do it WHILE meditating. So either it won't work, because we're too calm, or we'll notice any danger before it gets too bad. Or it'll be a completely controlled transformation.

OR SOM could be a dick.

>>29494835
>OR SOM could be a dick.
...we're dead

>>29494636
>>29494592
>>29494578
>>29494506
>>29494423
>>29494479
With the gravity chamber not of any use to you, you decide to try to find a way to control your Super Saiyan 2 form.

You begin by powering up to Super Saiyan, the form so natural it's nearly instantaneous these days. You close your eyes and focus your power, unleashing all of the energy lying beneath the surface.

The entire ship begins to shake, tiles rise up from the floor and hover in the air, held there by your power. The rumbling gets worse as your aura goes from a strong gust to a raging maelstrom. The computer at the center of the room sparks, and explodes from the power you are emitting. The walls crack, and begin to break apart. Lightning adds to your aura, and the wall to the hallway crumbles. With a final yell, you complete the transformation, and the ship shakes uncontrollably.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29494870
>B
Drop back to regular form.

>>29494870
Hope no one noticed that

calm that shit down

>>29494870
Dammit SOM

Drop back down

>>29494870
You asshole. You completely ignored half the suggestion.

The point was to meditate FIRST.

>>29494900
Power down
Rush to the bridge.
Shout "DAMAGE REPORT MR. SCOTT!"

>>29494918
>Implying that would have made a difference

>>29494870
>Unless we don't think we can avoid damaging the ship if we do that
Dick move man. We should have know that IC it was still too uncontrolled, that's why that clause was there. I vote recon.

>>29494971
>I vote recon.
What should have happened was something along the lines "As you begin the transformation you feel the ship begin to shake, then stop as you fear damaging it."

Come on man don't be like this.

>>29494971
>>29494926
>>29494918
>>29494912
>>29494905
>>29494900
You power down immediately. The ship continues to shake, and you are thrown against a wall. You quickly regain your balance and run to the bridge.

"DAMAGE REPORT MR. SCOTT!" you yell.

The crewmen look at one another in confusion.

"Whish of us is Scott?" one asks.

"Oh, shut up!" Sulu yells. "The ship is coming apart. We have fifteen minutes, tops, before that happens."

>A. Radio the others for help

>B. Search for a nearby planet

>C. Something else

>>29495055
>B Fingers crossed it's Yardrat!

>>29495055
Fuck you, SOM. Fuck you with a rake.

I refuse to vote.

>>29495055
Recon

Dammit man the suggestion said not to do it if it that was going to happen

>>29495055
>B.

>>29495055
"ill fix it" get in the pod and gtfo.

>>29495090
Seconded, go back or stop here

>>29495055

Fuck off Somnius this is bullshit forced drama if I have ever seen it.

>>29495113
>>29495132
Vote

>>29495141
It's no longer a question of us getting fucked because of our choices. We're going to get fucked regardless of what we do, it's just a matter of how we get fucked. It's amazing, but as a QM SOM has somehow managed to get WORSE through time.

I for one refuse to continue playing the game if that's how it's going to be from now on.

>>29495164

D. blow up the nearest planet.

>>29495164
No.

>>29495164
No.

>>29495164
That was my suggestion and I knew you'd pull this if you were gonna be a dick about it that's why I explicitly said not to if it was dangerous. Why did you ignore that?

>>29495164
>B

>>29495180
This, but blow up all nearby planets.
Fuck this forced drama.

>>29495217
Because
1: You think for Frank, he knows only what you know. If you didn't know for sure it would be dangerous, neither did he.

2: You are powering into a form that impares your judgment immensely and takes a great deal of focus to reach, did you honestly expect you would have the clarity of thought to power down?

>>29495239
No.

If this game is going to survive the night, SOM needs to realize how close he's come to alienating the overwhelming majority of what players he has left.

>>29495315
>>29495239
>>29495217
>>29495210
>>29495197
>>29495180
>>29495176
>>29495141
>>29495136
>>29495132
>>29495113
>>29495107
>>29495090
See >>29495283


Next update incoming, B wins

>>29495283
We powered down several times against King Cold with no difficulty.

This is a result of you wanting drama, and taking any action to force it. Including selectively ignoring player input.

>>29495283
I think neither of those things were described in a way we could be sure about. Our perception of the risk of transformation needed to be informed that we fucking exploded every time we took the form, not just the first time. Because that wasn't made clear at all.

Nonetheless, we're all not having fun with this right now. Please, walk this back.

>>29495382
No, I told everybody in that stupid afterlife thing that that was their one do over, I am not holding everybody's hands anymore. You will accept the consequences for your mistakes. And for the record, an non did warn you this was likely to happen.

>>29495438
Have fun playing railroad quest by yourself then, I'm out.

>>29495283
>1: You think for Frank, he knows only what you know. If you didn't know for sure it would be dangerous, neither did he.

>2: You are powering into a form that impares your judgment immensely and takes a great deal of focus to reach, did you honestly expect you would have the clarity of thought to power down?
what now? does ho know what we know? then he would have known, like stated, that when shit begann to fall apart, he wold have to stop
does he have ic knowledge we don't have? then, as someone who has entered the state several time, would know about the possible damage and be carefull

please be consistent with your explanaition. if you take only a part out of someones suggestions and use this part against them, people will start screaming murder. at this moment, you could also have gone the big-asteroid-hits-ship-out-of-nowhere routine

>>29495438
Do you even realize why people are mad at you?

>>29495438
This isn't the same thing at all, it wasn't a boneheaded idea with obvious consequences, it was a disconnect between our perception and yours. One that was accounted for in the suggestion itself. This isn't hand holding its a fucking fair thing to do.

>>29495226
>>29495113
>>29495086
You order the crew to take you to the nearest planet immediately. They frantically enter commands into the main computer, and your ship changes course, flying towards a planet in the distance.

You reach the planet in minutes, and shoot through the atmosphere. you crash through several buildings before hitting the ground, your ship exploding and forming a massive crater where you hit.

You rise to your feet and look around. The debris from your ship are scattered everywhere, and you see the corpses of most of your crewmen. You can't sense the other ones, so they are most likely dead too.

>A. Try and telepathically contact the others

>B. Explore

>>29495554
>A. Try and telepathically contact the others

>>29495554
>B Explore
We're too far away for A

>>29495554
C. Blow up the planet

>>29495554
>C.
Blow up the planet.

>>29495514
The same reason they're always mad when things don't go their way.
>>29495551
Yes, it was a boneheaded idea with obvious consequences. You used a form that destroyed a supposedly ki proof room on a spaceship, when in the past you have been terrified to even use a Kaio-Ken on spaceships for fear of destroying them. And again, by the time shit was going bad, you were already partway into a form that impairs your judgement.

>>29495471
Later

>>29495379
You keep telling yourself that
>>29495591
>>29495593
Hey, where have you guys been?

>>29495554
>C. Blow up the planet

>>29495554
C. Blow up the planet.

>>29495591
>>29495593
>>29495619
>>29495621
And then there's these faggots. '

Come on just recon already. This wasn't what we wanted to do at all.

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>>29495593
>>29495591
>>29495619
>>29495621

>>29495554
Hold the fucking phone. We're not through with you yet.

You pick and choose from people suggestions to produce the worst possible outcome, then basically blame your players for being dumb. And when we challenge you, you get all fucking defensive and plow ahead with whatever it was you had planned this time. You refuse to even admit the possibility that you made a mistake. That you were wrong.

That's why people are pissed at you. That's why your quest keeps hemorrhaging posters.

>>29495610
>obvious consequences
Obvious in character. Obvious to Frank in the way the suggester said not to do it if it was the case.

>>29495668
To be very honest, a lot of the player decisions ever since thread one have been absolutely idiotic.

>>29495668
Going Super Saiyan 2 won the vote. Whether you guys realized the consequences or not is your own problem, I am not going to pull punches to make up for your lack of foresight.

>>29495684
Obvious in character yet you all decided to do it. You control Frank, you make his decisions, all he knows in character is what you know. You are his character.

>>29495610
Please ignore the blow up the planet and tell our wives we broke our ship

>>29495610
>keep telling yourself that
What, that we powered down several times against King Cold, and that it basically defeats your argument that we couldn't do it?

>>29495610
The problem is you fucked up the suggestion. It said not to do it if it was dangerous. Frank KNEW he caused damage every time he transformed. This is your mistake.

>>29495701
First to three voting hardly offers incentives to intelligent planning.

>>29495668
>You pick and choose from people suggestions to produce the worst possible outcome
No, that's wrong.

First to three is a shit system.

THat's all.

>>29495610
that's basicaly the same as a player says i open the door to the treasure room, but i carefully look for traps. if anything seems fishy, i leave it. and the dm goes you kick in the door because you are greedy for loot. 50k crossbowbolts hit you in the nuts.
tecnically, yes, the pc probably is greedy and wants treasure, because, why else would he be there. still, it is a dick move to circumvent the players precaution. that just takes the decision from the players and makes them feel basically irellevant to the quest. and this is the problem in this moment. it is not the usual "my idea was 10000 times better, why not choose it" crying and not the lolrandom crowd

>>29495715
"Going Super Saiyan 2" didn't win the vote. Trying to do it while aware that it could damage the ship won. And yet, you had us plow ahead through the transformation regardless of the consequences and contrary to what we fucking voted for.

>>29495715
>Obvious in character
BUT THE SUGGESTION ACCOUNTED FOR THAT. IT HAD A FUCKING CLAUSE NOT TO DO THAT IF IN CHARACTER KNOWLEDGE SAID IT WAS A BAD IDEA.

>>29495438
I pointed out we broke the ki proof room before. I've been in here since quest 1 but I'm europoor so I don't do much input. If som wanted to be harsh he could just state ship explodes and make us go to afterlife. You guys are all just too stupid to think back to Last thread even and then complain. Seems like too many of you have grown up in the era of quick saves in games. You fucked up deal with it. Bot what I wanted to see happen in quest but I get to laugh at you all cry atleast.

>>29495752
I gave up on that argument something like fifty threads ago. I'm TRYING to make the most of what we've been handed.

If SOM would quit acting like a petulant child who's been told he can't have ice cream, maybe we could un-fuck this whole scenario.

>>29495823
This isn't a videogame quicksave, this is a bug that bit us in the ass and needs ironing out

>>29495575
>>29495588
Vote

>>29495722
That was in the context of a fight and would very much be in your mindframe of wanting to crush your opponents in the most brutal way possible.

>>29495729
Frank knew, yet you fucking voted for it. Again, these are YOUR choices, not his. If he fucks up, it is because of you. I am not going to go around your decisions because "Durr, Frank wouldn't do that" If you guys choose to do it, then Frank would do it!

>>29495746
This is a valid point

>>29495767
The difference is, the example you gave is something you would have much more control of. Halfway through an extremely powerful transformation that clouds your judgement is not really a time you would have control like that.

>>29495796
And that translates too "We're not sure if this is a bad idea, but since we don't know for sure that it is, we're going with it anyway"

>>29495823
I'm going back to updating now, A won

>>29495832
Yes, the blame rests squarely on my shoulders. It has nothing to do with the fact that many of the players cry like children every time they make a stupid choice that has negative consequences.

>>29495832
Funny, I could say the same about this playerbase.

And I'm on your side.

>>29495823
If you could comprehend English, maybe you would realize that we're not angry at the outcome, we're angry at being brought here by an argumentative QM who selectively ignored part of the winning suggestion, and who stubbornly refuses to back down even after we called him out.

>>29495720
>>29495575
You stretch out with your mind and attempt to contact one of the others. It's faint, but you manage a connection with Salta.

"Where are you?" she asks. "We can't detect your ship anymore, and this connection is extremely faint."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29495864
>"Durr, Frank wouldn't do that" If you guys choose to do it, then Frank would do it!
...

Yeah, you may to reassess this policy /after/ the end of this thread, since QMs commonly slap down invalid player actions with "It's not IC", whether consequences are good or bad.

>>29495864
>And that translates too "We're not sure if this is a bad idea, but since we don't know for sure that it is, we're going with it anyway"
NO IT TRANSLATES TO "WE MIGHT DO THIS IF IT ISN'T A BAD IDEA. BASED ON IN CHARACTER KNOWLEDGE." IGNORING THE SUGGESTION WAS PART OF THE SUGGESTION

All you had to do was do an update saying "Frank thinks back to every time he has transformed and decides not to risk the ship."

>>29495908
A. Say something

"I've done something immensely stupid again."

>>29495908
C. Blow up the planet

>>29495908
>C.
Blow up the planet

>>29495908
>A I'm sorry honey, I fucked up and crashed on a planet, everyone is okay but It's gonna take a while for me to get to Namek.

>>29495908
A.
"The ship exploded and it most definately wasn't my fault."
B.
Try and invent instant transmission

>>29495908
>C. Blow up the planet

>>29495920
That would go against how I have run this quest from the very beginning. And if you want to get technical, Frank is known for making bad decisions.

>>29495943
>Ignoring the suggestion was part of the suggestion

Okay then

>>29495954
>>29495970
I don't recall giving a C option

>>29495864
Basically, the takeaway is this: we're not actually in control of our character, because all of our decisions and input will be run through the filter of SOM and come out the other side as shit. He dictates Frank's state of mind, his intentions, his abilities, and the results of his actions.

Why the fuck are we even here.

>>29495999
Do you just not understand the concept of conditionality?

>>29495992
>>29495980
>>29495945
"I'm sorry honey, I've done something incre- I mean, the ship blew up, and it most definitely was not my fault" you tell her. "I crashed on some planet and my crew is dead."

"Oh my God....what did you try to do in that damn ship?" Salta asks. "Nevermind, we're turning around now, we should be there in a few minutes."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29495864
>The difference is, the example you gave is something you would have much more control of. Halfway through an extremely powerful transformation that clouds your judgement is not really a time you would have control like that.
>Since we can't do much else on the ship, how about we turn Super saiyan 2 and meditate, try to adjust to the form and quell that god complex bloodlust. Unless we don't think we can avoid damaging the ship if we do that, I'm not sure how physically controlled that transformation is yet.
actually no, that's not the difference. both have the players take precaution against a certain scenario, and both have these precaution ignored. the statement wase clear about that point and emphasized that if franks in character knowledge would advise against this step, he wouldn't take it

you see what i am trying to say here? this is not me trying to insult somebody, i just want to show under what idea this idea was voted for, (at least as i gavi it my vote) and under what conception people were by this vote, and how harshly it differs to what actually happened. this is not a case of bad decisionmaking but rather a case of missconception

>>29496047
>B.
Blow up the planet.

>>29496047
>A Thank's honey, can't wait to see you all
>B Explore

>>29495999
>That would go against how I have run this quest from the very beginning.
Perhaps sticking to your guns on one of the worst parts of this quest's system isn't conductive to keeping it alive?

Oh well.

>>29495903
I don't see how anyone couldn't see it coming. Super powerful transformation that broke a ki proof room. It's extremely hard for us to control the power, even if we were being careful it'd be too much. No one remember king cold broke the window on his ship when he got angry. Nobody think how many ships we damage across the threads. Ships are flimsy as fuck. I'm going to bed this'll make a good laugh before my exam.

>>29496047
C. Retcon this unnecessary bullshit and go back to not fucking up the ship you fucking railroading spurglord.

>>29496076
Belay that.
>>29496047
A. Thank Salta
B. KI SENSE EVERYTHING.

>>29496047
>B blow up the planet

>>29496037
Yes, I understand the concept. But I do not consider "Som, please tell us if this is a bad idea, because we can't figure it out on our own" to be an acceptable condition.

>>29496056
Again, his in character knowledge is whatever you guys collectively know, he knows nothing beyond that. He is you. And it flat out said in that quote, that you have no idea what would happen, ergo, Frank would have no idea.

>>29496073
I made a rule about "Blow up the planet" sometime back.

>>29496094
I'd rather stick to my guns than cave in to a bunch of whining children

>>29496095
Glad to hear that, anon. Good luck on your exam.

>>29496111
Haha, no C option was given

>>29496127
There is a rule about that option

>>29496094
I agree, SOM chooses the worst possible times to put his foot down.

>>29496138
>Again, his in character knowledge is whatever you guys collectively know, he knows nothing beyond that. He is you.
...including meta knowledge?

Please don't open that can of worms.

>>29496142
I made the decision yesterday when everyone was telling me to retcon King Cold fucking up the planet to stop listening to the whiny bullshit and just have them either accept the consequences for their mistakes, or leave if they're not happy

>>29496138
>I'd rather stick to my guns than cave in to a bunch of whining children
So this is how you handle being called out for your bullshit. I was a fucking idiot for thinking you would get better.

>>29496138
That wasn't the condition and you know it. You just seem to brush off any legitimate argument against you as "whining".

>>29496174
Okay, fair enough. Besides Meta knowledge, kind of thought that went without saying, but fair enough.

>>29496201
You said it

>>29496210
I call it how I see it

>>29496193
No, I'm pretty sure you've been an asshole for longer than that. I also think I've hated you for longer than that.

The two are probably correlated.

>>29496236
And yet, you're still here. Which one of us is the jackass in this scenario?

It's you

>>29496263
Alright, can we get back to the story now?

>>29496122
>>29496076
"Thanks honey, I can't wait to see you all" you tell her.

You use your energy senses to see what kind of power levels are on this planet. Being in the middle of a city, it comes as no real surprise that there are power levels all over the place. None of them are significant, however.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

I can't decide which is more amusing, reading the quest or watching anon and SOM tell each other how to dig a deeper hole.

>>29496310
>B. Kill everyone on the planet.

>>29496224
My advice? Take a step back and re-evaluate how you see things. Drop the defensive attitude, and drop the vindictive DM versus player mindset.

Take it or leave it.

>>29496310
Thank you

>B Knock on the nearest door

>>29496193
Dude, this is getting ridiculous. The way your going about this is just making everybody pissed off and killing the fun.

Ask yourself this: Are you running this quest to let you and others have a good time, or are you doing this just for yourself?

So far, everythings pointing to the latter.

>>29496310
A. Look for a map. Or the tallest building full of sentients.

>>29496310
>B.
Kill everyone

>>29496336
Why the fuck not. It's not like anything else is going to work.

>>29496354
>>29496336
Vote

>>29496310
B,
Go Super Saiyan so we're easier to spot by the waifus.

>>29496348
To be honest, I'm having a good time, the arguments can be pretty distracting though.

>>29496354
Second.

>>29496379
Kill everybody

>>29496379
Knock on the nearest goddamn door.

Also,
>>29496348
Think about his question. Think about that shit real hard.

>>29496360
>>29496348
>>29496332
>>29496320
I'm done arguing, back to the quest

>>29496379
Seconding kill everyone.

>>29496391
All you've ever done is congratulate him. I'm not even sure you can voice discontent.

I actually envy you a little.

>>29496454
Thank you!

>>29496419
And I'm not. Your DM Vs Player bullshit is starting to really fuck this quest over. Learn to take some fucking criticism.

>>29496412
>>29496372
>>29496336
You decide to knock on the nearest door.

Rising out of the crater, you take a look around, seeing several pink skinned aliens with large heads staring at you. You ignore them and approach the nearest building, knocking on the door.

After a few seconds, it opens, and one of the aliens stares up at you.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29496419
Ok. I come back and this happened. Sweet. Life goes on. Mr. Sulu and mr. Scott will be missed. Let's check the locals. What langauge do they speak? Are the telepathic? Maybe we could communicate via mental images. Learn some 9f the local martial arts and fighting techniques incase it takes longer than 5 space minutes haha

>>29496484
You're welcome.

Also, fuck you. I hate you in the nicest and least aggressive sense possible.

>>29496454
If you starting looking at everything as "how do I outbullshit SOM" and view it as a game of trying to one-up, I'm sure you'd congratulate him too, for keeping it up so long.

>>29496503
>A Hey there, I'm Frank I've sorta crash landed on this planet, where is the nearest government building?

>>29496503
>B. Kill the alien.

>>29496503
>A
"You speak English, right? Everyone else does."

>>29496503
A. Speak with them.
"HAPPY JOY-PY, NICE TO MEETCHA-PY!"

>>29496503
B. Retcon back to the ship and quit with this passive-agressive ignore the players bullshit.

And I even put it under B for do something, In case your spurglordness was incapable of comprehending a third choice.

>>29496589
Seconded.

>>29496589
Thirding.

>>29496589
This

>>29496529
>>29496553
>>29496577
"Hey there, I'm Frank" you greet. "You speak English, right? Everyone else does."

"You mean the common tongue? Of course I speak it" he tells you.

"I've sort of crash-landed on your planet. Where is the nearest government building?" you ask.

"I can take you to it, if you like" he offers.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29496503
>A
"I am Frank, and I have lost the dwarves, the wizard, and my way."

>>29496668
>>29496589
Still voting for this.

>>29496668
>A Thanks! You guys are pretty nice
>B Follow him

>>29496668
>A
"Cool. I'll be stuck here for a little bit, so it'd be awesome if I could learn any martial arts techniques native to your planet while I'm here."

"Also, I'm about a million times stronger than any of you, so any training shouldn't involve sparring."

>>29496668
You forgot these.
>>29496589
>>29496604
>>29496620
>>29496633

Its okay, we forget things sometimes.

>>29496753
SOM has mentally filed the word "retcon" away in the same place the phrase "blow up the planet" and all its derivatives went.

>>29496769
So "Retcon blowing up Earth" would short circut Soms autism? Then I vote that.

>>29496819
This.

>>29496819
No, more like it just wouldn't register.

Too bad, really.

>>29496728
>>29496695
>>29496677
"Thank you, you guys are really pretty nice" you tell him.

He smiles and takes you by the hand, and suddenly, you are no longer standing in front of his home. You are now in front of a massive building, with several of the aliens entering and exiting.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29496878
>C
Blow up the Earth

>>29496878
>B.
Commit suicide.

>>29496878
>A Ummm... Okay then! Thanks!
>B Go inside

>>29496878
>A
"You really need to teach me how to do that."

>>29496878
Commit blowing up the planet

>>29496939
>>29496937
Second.

>>29496878
A.
"Gah! What the hell did you just do?!"

>>29496138
>But I do not consider "Som, please tell us if this is a bad idea, because we can't figure it out on our own" to be an acceptable condition.
We weren't asking you, we were asking Frank.

>>29496589
This. Have Frank wake up in the captains chair "...Well that was stupid"

But since we aren't going to be reasonable...

>>29496878
You have GOT to teach me how to do that.

>>29496878
>A. "Pease teach me to do that"
We got to Yardrat

Quit complaining people, Frank is obviously an idiot savant who caused a crash landing on Yardat and now we're (possibly) learning Instant Transmission.

>>29497127
>>29497094
>>29497012
>>29496939
>>29496937
"Umm...okay, thanks!" you tell him.

"You are welcome" he responds.

"...Please teach me how to do that" you beg.

"You mean instant transmission?" he asks. "It is not very difficult."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

I think I noticed a pattern, whenever we do something immensely stupid we are both punished for it directly, and rewarded for it indirectly. Think of pissing off Fita and going SSJ2, now we got to Yardat because of crashing.

Rolled 45

>>29497212
>A
You know what else isn't very difficult?
Blowing up your planet.
Now teach me that technique!

>>29497220
Balance in all things, anon

>>29497212
But it is incredibly useful. After I talk to your government can you direct me to a teacher? Or I'll just ask them.

>>29497226
Oh hush.

>>29497212
>A
"Good. Then it shouldn't take but a minute of your time."

>>29497220
More like SOM sees windows of opportunity to make things happen the way he wants them.

Illusion of choice, anon.

>>29497212
>A. "Really? Well, then it shouldn't be too much of an issue for you to teach me right?"

>>29497266
this is good

>>29497258
And your balance is shit. Do you even understand WHY people are angry about you?

>>29497298
Fuck dude, I couldn't have said it any better.

>>29497311
No anon, everyone else is a petulant, whiny child and wrong.

>>29497310
>>29497303
>>29497269
>>29497266
>>29497226
"But it is incredibly useful" you tell him. "After I talk to your government, can you direct me to a teacher? Or I can just ask them."

"I would be willing to teach you" he says. "It will not take long."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29497370
>A
"Good, then maybe I can get out of your hai... out of your way. I was kind of in a hurry before I crashed here."

>>29497370
>A Thanks so much dude! Do you have a name per chance?
>B After he answers go inside

>>29497370
>B.
Learn Instant Transmission.

>>29497370
Yeah actually lets just do that first

>>29497370
>A
No thanks, I don't need this technique.

Ok seriously if your pissed that's ok but don't botch about it so much you said your point leave it at thaf

>>29497368
Seriously, players just get in the way of telling the story, what with their plans and their ideas and their input. I'm not even sure why we have them.

>>29497410
>>29497415
>>29497416
>>29497429
>>29497449
"Thanks so much!" you tell him. "Maybe then I can get out of your hai-out of your way. I was in sort of a hurry before I crashed. Do you have a name, per chance?"

"Yes, I am Rareoad" he says with a smile. "Would you like me to teach you the technique now?"

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29497515
>A
no thanks

>>29497515
Yes

>>29497515
>A That would be great
>B Learn it

>>29497515
>A.
Yes, please.

>>29497515
>A
"Sure. More time I have to practice it the better, right?"

>>29497515
>A
nope

>>29497515
Yes

>>29497515
yes

>>29497515
>Rareoad
You cheeky little cunt.

>>29497580
...I don't get it

>>29497515
Fuck you SOM. Fuck you.

>>29497605
railroad

>>29497605
>Rareoad
>rare oad
>rare road
>rail road