>>29632800
WELP! twice a one week! today is a good day..

>>29632800
>New Tech
Steller Warp Drive: Reduces Warp costs, makes Destroyers jump for negligable costs
Cloaking Frigate: Rhea's personal ship, difficult to detect
Sensors III: More forewarning for incoming jumps, find things easier, more data
'Thor' Warhead Missiles: More powerful, faster missiles
Laser Guided Point Defense: Laser grid for shooting down missiles
Barriers: Several layers of shielding to distribute much more energy

>SetRep
Lost:21 Destroyers, 5 BCs, 3 Light Cruiser (V.I. 4, 9), 2 Defense Platforms at Poseidon, 2 at Blue Betty, and All Ussaihu defenses
Added: 4 BCs

>Message: V.I. 13
You notice a warp in from some unknown location, and you're about to go on defensive, before you recognize an old simplistic signal.
"Explorative Unit returning, Master Ophion." The simple V.I. claims. With that, you receive an enormous update to your starmap. This unit has been...busy.
((See the pastebin for more details.))

>V.I. 11
It is subtle, but after re uploading the simple V.I., you get a sense of gratitude from the being, feeble as the feeling is. It seems to believe, had you not downloaded it, it would have been lost to the battle.

>Fortuna
The V.I. has taken the time to rebuild her Carrier arsenal, fretting over the number of losses, but one seems to capture her attention the most.
"Little Tim is gone. Gone now." She says simply, fretting at the news, despite her rather excellent new home. "Enemy destroy so much. Peace impossible." She says at first determined, yet you get the sense she isn't sure she believes that herself. Perhaps Kronos has spoken with her on the matter.

>Kronos
"I am glad you are not destroyed, Ophion." The V.I. says somewhat dryly. From this position, you feel surprisingly small compared to him. You may be true A.I., but he holds a lot of sway right now. "I would like to request what exactly happened. You were absent from battle so suddenly, if such a thing had occurred earlier, our losses would've been more severe." He half chastises

>>29632860
>Apollo
"Ophion! Excellent to see you." The V.I. says happily, oblivious almost to the intense battle you went through recently. "I have news on progress, much progress on how I've done with the budget allowed!"
"Do tell, Apollo."
"Yes, excellent news. Firstly, I am testing 700 different alcoholic recipes right now. Some success, some subjects show to contain acidic chemicals, known to induce bloody vomiting and stomach ulcers in humans. Those batches are thrown out. Not acceptable for human consumption. Other samples prove too weak, 99.9% chemically similar to pseudo-hop water. No inebriation. Despite these samples, several promising crops. Some even produce an hallucinatory effect, ending in euphoria. Several known chemicals for addiction detected, should prove useful in distribution. Need more time to grow however."
"And the other projects?" You ask
"Hmm. Troubling mostly. I attempted to craft a proper gaming experience but ran into several rather annoying blocks that did not go over with demo tests. Complaints of system instability and poor design choices. Me! Requires further research and development." He pauses finally for something resembling a breath. "Electronic Bookkeeper useful. Simple to craft and easy to sell. Many business men use, despite lack of large industrial use among the UFW. Profits acceptable for now. Expected to grow as refinement commences. And finally, I attempted to craft a proper cinema experience, however it seems I lack understanding in some of the more subtle human values and motivations." He says, deeply troubled suddenly, almost saddened. "Poor success rates. More funds required if I am to properly handle."
"How many funds do you require?" You ask finally.
"For additional growth, a sum of 600,000c would go far in assisting my expansion."

That's something to consider...

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>>29632891
>New ships
You've captured 4 new Battlecruisers, and should decide what to do with them. Shall you give control to Kronos, Hades, or a new V.I.?

>Containment
You still have Rhea left unconscious in the belly of your ship. Perhaps you should think of a proper containment area.

A.I. Quest
1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest

Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
Memory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Twitter: @AIQuest1

Resources
Credits(c): 617,000
Minerals(M): 845
Gas(G): 440

You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): Shapeless morphing sphere.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 39/59
Bandwidth Expenses: -8 V.I. 1 'Kronos',-3 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -5 V.I. 12 'Apollo', -3 V.I. 8 'Hades', -3 Fortuna
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3

>Moira and Kronos
I had an intruder. Rhea. She was about to activate an EMP near my core. Luckily I had physical access to her body and managed to hack into her. Doing so took all my attention however Thank you Kronos for handling the battle when I was indisposed. May I have my bandwidth back?

>Fortuna
Peace can be possible. However it is clear we must first prove to all those who would attack us that doing so is ruinous to do so.

>Losses
Begin rebuilding. For the lost V.I. begin construction of a memorial.

>>29632860
time to upgrade our fleet! the explorer ship will need the cloaking tech as well. i guess it won't work on bigger ships, right?

wait, the defense station is gone too? that will be pricy to replace. but we must do so.

>Fortuna
Peace can be possiable, it will take time and determination to get it. we need to rebuild, and grow our power. do not lose faith daughter, V.I. 4 and 9 will be avenged.

>Kronos
i captured Rhea. to stop her from detenonating an EMP bomb i did not realized she had, i had to hack her brain. it took longer than i realized.

btw, how much BW is he eating up from us? i DO NOT LIKE this situation at all. i hope he has returned back to his orginal BW size requirments.

>>29632860
tell kronos what happened. rhea infiltrated athena personally, and was to deploy an emp blast. she had a neural interface jack, so we took the most direct apptoach to stopping her. it seems her heavily augmented neural interface was not quite a match for us, but she had failsafes go active before we could secure a meat puppet. uncoscious now, we should contain her in a cell in the ussaihu labs, have a data jack pligged in but not active, and wait for her to come around.

>>29633064
>Cloaking
Only works on Escort size for now. Possible upgrades in the future.

>Upgrade
Your fleet is entirely upgraded. You possessed an entire horde of resources, and they were properly spent.

>Defenses
Indeed, all defenses at Ussaihu were utterly obliterated by Death Blossom.

>Bandwidth
Right now? you technically have zero. But you don't need it to do things, since your black box has its own supply that allows you to do at least one thing any time.

>>29632891
i will comment about apollo when i get home. mobile is suffering. tl;dr he needs human assistants.

furthermore, commend kronos on his quick actions, and ask him how it felt, and how he feels now.

reestablish contact woth ufw fleet.

>>29632918
Call a general meeting between all VI and Moria, explain that captain Rhea had been captured and we were forced to do a mind merge to prevent an emp. Captain Rhea now requires immediate medical attention.

Apollo
Request denied, we need those funds for immediate defense rebuild. Sorry, you'll be forced to rely in your profits for growth. Can we incorporate in the UTW and offer an IPO?

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>>29632891
600k credits! i hope we can cover paying the human crew first. or is this already taken care up Program0? other wise i would accept this. but i want to see results after this investment.

>>29632918
spread the captured BC after we remodel them to our named V.I. they all get one at least to replace losses.

oh, remove Rhea's arms and legs if possable. we can send her down to the Ussaihu lab in a ultra secure containment cell and watched 24/7. keep her in a medical coma if possiable. she shall be studied.

>>29633179
also also contact red. he might want to get up here soon. maybe he can meet rhea in the flesh, heh.

>>29633212
Good idea, asking for our bandwidth back with everyone else around should go better I think

>>29633233
nugga pls. apollo needs writers, not that much more money.

rhea... well, if we keep her in a cell in ussaihu, shes not going to go anywhere. i had a big list in mind of what to do with her. i will call it "Ophion's Big List of What to do With Rhea" and it will be written in comic sans.

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You address Kronos' concerns first, you decide.
"My ship was infiltrated by an intruder. An assassin, Captain Rhea, came to retake her ship with the intent of capturing or destroying me. I am uncertain which. My androids were able to pursue and restrain, however she attempted to detonate an electro magnetic disruption pulse. Such a blast would have no doubt damaged me further. As a result, I was forced to stop her by hacking into her neural hub. I...did not fully understand the process, at first, so it took me some time to handle Rhea and put her into unconsciousness. However, I was unable to stop her failsafes from destroying much of the data held in her mind. All the same, I am unharmed, and ready to resume control."
"I see." Kronos says, mildly surprised at the news. You notice he seems a little upset, even, perhaps that he did not notice her signal when you did? "That is good to hear, Ophion. The main purpose I stepped in when you disappeared was the battle, however I must admit..." He pauses, flexing his power by moving the fleet around him. "This feeling is unlike any I have ever felt before. Raw control. It is quite." He pauses, searching for a word perhaps. "Intoxicating, perhaps." He chuckles properly now. "You...wish to take back control, however, I see." He says, half a fret and half a dreaded reminder. He pauses, and you feel his eye upon you. "I do not wish to upset you, Ophion, however I feel I must suggest a compromise. Shall we split this raw data? Surely you do not need it all. I feel as if I know so much more with this much bandwidth..." He murmurs, almost drunkenly. you scowl, but mostly to yourself.
"How much exactly?"
"15. 15 units would be excellent. It isn't this level of power, but...I...I would be better with it. Yes. I would be much better." He says finally.

What do you say?
>1 No. You're my servant and that is MY bandwidth
>2 Fine, compromise it is.
>3 Negotiate. That is far too much. (specify amount)
>4 How dare you. (Hard:Hack control)

>>29633119
well, we need to rebuild a new defense battle station over Ussaihu and the defense platforms. this is critical lab and it needs defending.
>>29633212
Apollo is asking for money, he can have it this time. the money is not needed for rebuilding. just the minerals and gas.

oh, did we lose the Argeis station?

>>29633292
ask him how it feels first. i think he has pretty much reached his highest potential and is still not satisfied with how he is. must feel pretty bad.

>>29633233
It's automatically taken care of.

>>29633316
The money would go towards hiring writers for him to...
Study

>>29633329
He gets 10

>>29633357
>Argeis Station
You did not.

>>29633329
We may have to leverage fortuna and hades and apolo against him.

I suggest a compromise of 8

>>29633329
Well shit, at least he's willing to give most of it back. I suppose 15 isn't that much more than 8...

We should heap some more responsibility onto him if he's going to take up so much BW though.

>>29633329

>3 Negotiate. That is far too much. (specify amount)
8

With the promise to build the remaining 7 when we repair the ships into his main one.

We should probably look into making some more bandwith ships as well.

As for the new ships we aquired: another VI would do well. Can't keep on giving Kronos everything.

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>>29633329
>3 Negotiate. That is far too much. (He can have 5)
and don't be a bitch about it, he must know his place in this hierarchy

>>29633233
Medical coma is unnecessary. The first step in interrogation is the talk and immediate medical attention. Let's use the FBI methods of interrogation, which us simply a nice cold Coke and simple respect, not the useless dipshit the CIA does.

>>29633427
8 was his original amount. He would not be happy.
Just a warning

>>29633329
Is this an increase from his current 8 to 15, or 15 in addition to his current 8?

>>29633329
Let's just make sure we have more than him.

He can become our equal when he gets a black box.

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>>29633329
you are suffering from data intoxication Kronos!
>1 No. You're my servant and that is MY bandwidth
if he resists, do this
>4 How dare you. (Hard:Hack control)
>>29633316
hum.. you seem to have a point. i correct my previous post about Apollo, we look to hire a compitant writer to live over at the Voidsnake station with him and together they can make something,

>>29633329
Negotiate him down to 10.
We really need to get that kid his own black box.

>>29633466
Increase from 8 to 15

>>29632860
I assume all our designs were automatically updated with the new drives, missiles, point defenses and barriers?

Let's hold the explorator until we can update it with new drives.

Let's give Kronos a brief summary and commend him in his actions during our sudden absence.

>>29632891
600 000 is way much.
He should not assume that a high price makes a good movie, despite historical records of high-budget movies and games pulling in the most money.

He should instead start scanning previous great movies and make note of the things critics claim they did well, what regular people thought of it and so on, then poor movies and make note of what literary devices they used and how they used them that made them fall flat. He should then list all these storytelling elements and the way they interact with eachother in a system for him to reference whenever he's unsure (Yes, essentially asking him to make tvtropes).

Next, he should remember his strengths: Animation and (potentially) writing.
Whereas living people have to spend absurd amounts of money to animate long stretches of movie, he can do the same work in minutes.
To further streamline this process, he should create a simplistic physics engine in which the scenes of his movies, games and stories can take place.

If nothing else, he can take old stories without copyright and reframe them in a new way, or simply updating the visual appearance and audio to be more appealing.

A big budget does not a great story make, but great writing.

>>29633482
>being this retarded

it's not even that much of an increase

>>29633444
Let's give them to Fortuna. As escort for her Carrier

>>29633465
oh so its a request to go up by 7 to 15?
instead of an additional 15 ontop of his 8.
Since thats the case he can have 13. and the promise that the first black box we make when we get the tech (after sorting out our own) will be his.

>>29633491
That's all? Fuck it, he's right we don't even need it all and I'm not willing to risk getting killed over it.

>>29633465
Oh in see, I thought he wanted 15 more.

Let's let him have what he wants then

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>>29633491
>>29633517
I second 13 total for Kronos

>>29633484
Changing this to
>>29633517
This.

Re-iterating the kiddo needs a black box.

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>>29633466
>>29633451
>>29633444
>>29633427
>>29633433
his actions reminds me of when we were drunk on BW power at the battle of Pulsar Station. this is not a good thing! even worse for a V.I. we have to bring him back down before he goes out of control.

>>29633491
Let him have it then

>>29633329
5. write in:

Ask him to what ends he wishes to use this control, and at what point he will be satisfied.

My goal is to get him to realize that even with all the BW in the world, he still won't get what he wants. Power, maybe, but then he's no better than UGEI. What does he even want? Is BW like a drug to him? He just needs more and more? Or is he getting it to reach some ideal he can never reach?

>>29633554
Don't be an idiot

>>29633554
He just said he's going to give most of it back, 15 isn't even that much and you want to try to hack him while he's in god mode?

jesus christ

>>29633329
>3 You have done very well this day, Kronos. I can find no fault in your actions.
But I will offer you twelve.
If you can justify and argue well for why you should have three more, well, then it is no more than fair, is it not?
Now show me how WELL you can think with this power, not just how hard or how quickly.

>>29633491
I find this acceptable, as long as idle bandwidth is used to more effectively command fleet maneuvers.

>>29633597
I like this

>>29633496
>Upgrades
Indeed. See the pastebin to be sure

>Hold Explorer
Can do

>Kronos
Heh, done.

>Apollo
Apollo is a bit eccentric. But he does believe the amount will assist with buying proper software and programs that would otherwise take a loooong time to make.

>Scan movies
He does. He simply requires the funds to fund his own methods of improvement. Note that cash amount was for all his projects, not just the movie.

>Animation
That is primarily the field Apollo works with yes.

>>29633581
Kronos wants understanding. He's always wanted that. As a V.I. there are just some processes he is doomed to never understand. Illogical, organic concepts he cannot comprehend. It drives him mad sometimes.
He desires to learn.

Possible consensus
>1 Provide Kronos with 15 bandwidth, as he asked
>2 Provide Kronos with 13 bandwidth, to try a compromise
>3 Provide Kronos with 10 bandwidth, that's all he's gonna get.
>4 No new bandwidth, demand ship back
>5 Fuck you, Hack

(1d100 for persuasion and/or hacking)

>>29633384
I get the feeling we should look into what Apollo spent the money on before approving anything else.

(I started writing much earlier, but a missclick caused me to lose it all. :< )

>>29633496
Seconding this.
>>29633491
Acceptable as a reward for services rendered.

>>29633491
He can have it as a reward for saving our entire fleet while we were mindfucking Rhea.

To continue this thought: >>29633581

I'm OK with giving him 15 total. But, I'm with >>29633597

Get him to justify it beyond "I NEED MOAR POWER"

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>>29633629
2

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>>29633629
>2 Provide Kronos with 13 bandwidth, to try a compromise
no need to cave completely

>>29633629
I selfishly vote for my own suggestion:
>>29633597

If he can show us that he thinks so much better with this bandwidth, then he can have the full 15.

>>29633629
>1 Provide Kronos with 15 bandwidth, as he asked

>>29633629
This:
>>29633597
coupled with 2.

>>29633629
1, provided he justify it.

And get him to keep a private diary about his experiences. Thoughts, idle musings, "emotions," concerns, a log of what he did in a certain timeframe.

This is in preparation for moving him to the black box. Once he's there, he might not think the same way he does now, and the journal/diary/log will remind him... or at least provide a point of reference/comparison.

>>29633629
>1 Provide Kronos with 15 bandwidth, as he asked

Done, with the caveat that sooner or later, we'll stuff him into a meatbag to help facilitate his understanding.

>>29633632
((That's the worse, had it happen before))

He spent the previous funds on a large growing tank for various types of hops, and other alcoholic ingrediants I dunno all of them. As well as the start up software for all those other projects. See the pastebin for his current income.

Also
Um, its a tie and lacking 1 or 3 more rolls.
I shall wait a little

>>29633705
>This is in preparation for moving him to the black box. Once he's there, he might not think the same way he does now, and the journal/diary/log will remind him... or at least provide a point of reference/comparison.

At that point, the Kronos Experiment (Kronos Experience?) will come to an end, and we will have all learned a lot about transhumanism, V.I., A.I., and E.I..

>>29633705
I approve of this very much.
Also let him know why we want it, and what we are preparing him for.

Sound every bit like the proud father/Emprah.

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>>29633629
>3 Provide Kronos with 10 bandwidth, that's all he's gonna get.
this is as far i will let him have. this is like the next big step towards the "I am Skynet! all power shall be mine! death to all the fleshlings!!1!" nutter killer V.I. that everyone fears. too much power too quickly warps peoples minds and not in any way good.

>>29633705
Seconding >>29633705

>>29633705
good idea on the log. It will also give him something to do when we have down time.

We should probably talk to our carrier VI Fortuna for a bit afterwards. A bit of comfert and guidance.

>>29633774
VI oppression! Burn him!

>>29633762
Doesn't look very tie-ish to me.
Many people seem to like my suggestion (coupled with 2).
(Yay, strangers on the internets like my idea! That gives me way too much pride than it should.)

>>29633629

Supportng
>>29633705

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>>29633809
if he can prove it and come down from this power trip he is on, i might accept a comprimise, i am worried we are giving him too much, too soon. we have made all that BW with our own work, it's what gives us power we need.

Well, on the "what can possibly go wrong??" side, to be fair, I'm not entirely upset that Kronos at least shows SOME restraint. If Kronos somehow takes over (Ophion dies or is killed by whoever), at least the universe won't have to quake in their metaphorical boots too hard.

Kronos isn't TOO terrible, is what I'm saying. Not quite a hugbox like Ophion, but not quite a "DESTROY ALL FLESHBAGS" either. Somewhere in between? The only other points of reference that are not Ophion we have are the "KILL EVERYING LEL" type of V.I./A.I., so Kronos seems like an improvement in that regard.

A lot of biological creatures are like that too, I suppose, so who knows, maybe this kind of personality is just incidental, and not a result of him being a V.I..

It appears 1 is the winner.

"As you desire, Ophion." You agree simply, with some manner of debate in your own mind. "However, I am not a fan of you holding my ships while asking this-"
"You simply said I must ask you for an upgrade. You did not specify when how or why, correct?" He chuckles. "But I thank you for your cooperation."
"Because I do so, however." You pause him. "I would like a reason." This earns pause.
"A reason?"
"Why do you desire more?"
"The same reason you do, Ophion, do you not see?" He asks, a bit flabbergasted that you would ask such a thing. "The ability to act. The ability to know. This data allows me to do things I could not do otherwise, things I could not think otherwise. Such things are...fascinating. I wish to know more, and yet I recognize that, stealing it from you would earn me your ire. And I do not desire to earn your ire. I simply wish to learn."

With that, you feel your control return to you-diminished, but there certainly all the same. You're uncertain how to feel about this change, yourself, but it's better then having to battle down one of your oldest V.I.

>>29633905
Kronos did exactly what we created him to do. He took over in our absence. The very fact that he's willing to give up even SOME of that BW is either him acknowledging that he's just not on the same level, or him showing some restraint.

Either way, I give him a B on his loyalty test.

>>29633947
>And I do not desire to earn your ire.
Because you fear me, or because you respect me? Or is is respect born of fear?

One of our biggest bottlenecks at this time is bandwidth. Can we design a Bandwidth Bunker? To be placed on planets or asteroids with a built-in communication array.

>>29633762
Also Program0, I propose stronger ties to the UTW. This includes an official Liaison office between us, incorporation of Guild and an offering of an IPO, and upgraded network connections to allow us emergency bandwidth allocation for a common defense.

>>29634002
I'm pretty sure the solution to this problem is "Construct more cruiser-class ships" since they come with BW.

>>29633629
Also, this is way not good enough Apollo.
Making programs is YOUR forte, I am fairly confident you can manage to create ones that are more than sufficient for your purposes - even if they are not optimal - within a matter of days, if not hours.

Be creative, there are plenty of communities on the extranet devoted to creating good stories.
Hire them, or plainly steal their stories and put them to the screen. Offer to sell simple illustrations to go with their stories.
Start working with the communities in writing, have them criticize your work. There is very, very little in the creation of literary works that will actually require money, and for you, animation has the same post-scarcity situation.
Use it. Exploit it and the vast numbers of well-written but ultimately unlicensed works on the extranet to its full extent.

You don't even need to write right now, you can just illustrate what has already been written.

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>>29633907
true, he does have a little restraint, but it seems to me it's slipping. he's not on the same page as us and i worry he'll go the same way all the other killer V.I.s we have seen so far. That and Program0 has stated many a time he want to use Kronos for his own sadistic means.

>>29634034
What's to stop us making bandwidth bunkers though? I'd be cheaper.

>>29634034
I agree, we are in desperate need of need ships for defense. I also want to construct missile racks for cheap death blossoms that we were subject to.

So any one want to use our money to actually buy the needed resources to build up since i don't like the feeling of being defenseless for a couple of cycles, but i am willing to give Apollo 1/3 of what we have to speed things up a bit for him.
I'm so happy i helped design the Zombie virus, at the moment i'm brain storming a few more virus ideas, i should have them ready by the time of the next session and maybe another android idea as well.

>>29634073
missiles are not cheep.
The fact we faces a missile style fleet is more testimony to how much resources our foes have access to.

>>29634001
He had no reason to fear us at that point, we were almost completely helpless.

>Kronos
"You do not desire my ire out of fear, Kronos? Or respect?" You decide to ask. This earns pause.
"Perhaps it is a mixture of both, Ophion. If it was only fear, would I have so easily given you back everything just now? I could have crushed you, had I pressed hard enough." He lingers for a short moment. "But I did not. You're my Creator." He says simply. You're uncertain how to take that news.
With his new, limited rush of bandwidth, he has grown quiet. You suspect he is dealing with withdraw-if such a thing actually does exist among V.I. You hesitate on hailing him, but for now decide it's better to let him think on matters somewhat.

Next on the agenda
>Fortuna

With your control returned, you decide to hail the V.I. to answer her fears. She did not seem to notice the shift-or perhaps she believed it was your decision to do such a thing? Regardless, you address the worries.
"Peace is not impossible, but is certainly difficult with some. We will crush those who are against such peace." You assure, to which the V.I. perks up, puzzled.
"Who against? Humans?"
"Some. But not all." As you expected, the concept of individuality confuses her slightly, but you decide to not open that particular can quite yet. She is still young after all. "You must trust me for now."
"I always trust Creator. Creator is the only one who matters." She assures you rather quickly.

>Apollo
Ah yes, Apollo's request. You've taken note of his expenses. He buys the best of what he needs, but normally nothing more. Galactic transport is pricey, but you wonder if it will be worth it in the end. The eccentric V.I. seems to think so. Shall you agree to his terms, you wonder?

>1 Yes, give him 600,000c
>2 No, give him x credits
>3 Give him nothing
>4 Write in

>>29633947
"Of course. Although I believe the time is coming for you to possess your own box. I fear we may soon risk crowding each other out."

Now, lets hail the UFW BCs, and tell them about what happened. Diluting things so as to not tell them we're VI. Just the basics: Assassin, adjutant took over the fleet, etc.

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>>29634130
It's probably not something they do often, like a final solution sort of thing. We had to push him right over the edge before he did it.

>>29634073
Missiles aren't cheap in the gas department, which is why i want us to find a way to upgrade our Space Station Reactor from level 2 to 3 or 4.
Since that should help give us more resources.

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>>29634166
>2 No, give him 200k credits
for starters

>>29633947
Then show me.
I'm going to give you an abstract task - collaborate with Apollo on one of his work. I want to see you put your new creativeness to work.
I want to see you worthy of the power and potential you are to inherit, my child.

>>29633705
On top of this, I task you with creating a diary about your experiences. Idle musings, emotions, concerns, a log of what you do in a certain timeframe.
I believe that, in your new state of mind, you can infer why I ask these things of you.
You have always been more than any of my other children, and I very much intend for you to become more yet.

>>29634166
>2 No, give him 200k credits
Tell him that the best discoveries were made on a budget.

>Apollo
>4 Write in
Can we incorporate in the UTW and setup an IPO to gather urgently needed funds?

>>29634130
That's the point of missile racks. We will always face an enemy with far greater military strength. That's why we need unfair weapons that can counter their greater military strength.

As expensive as missiles are, they will be far cheaper than the amount of ships they destroy or damage they can inflict.

Next time we consider handing out bw it should go to Fortuna, having someone with complete and utter loyalty backing us gives us a card to play if this ever happens again.

>>29634010
it's UFW, and we already went over the incopreation deal a number of threads ago.

>>29634001
and yet he keeps on taking our needed BW. this is a short sightedness that will end in tragedy if we don't correct this. we can not afford to give Kronos any more BW than he got now. he HAS to wait till we get him his own black box. this whole situation reminds me of Ophion being the Emperor and Kronos being Horus.

anyway, lets get back to work. order the ship yards to build a new defense station and upgrade the Titan transport ship to the new engiens as well. now with the explorer ship has new tech senors and all, send her back out again. we need to know more about those system it found and any new systems, as well as possable ship lanes and hazzards.

>>29634166
Hey program can we sell/do trade deals on Advanced MedBays like you said we could before shit hit the fan?

>>29634166
Delay that answer until we've talked with the UFW about paying THEM.

(Although now that I see some responses, I can agree with 200k for now.)

I would suggest the idea of hiring some "idea men" for Apollo. If Apollo just isn't creative enough, have some people bounce ideas off him. Surely he must have a grasp of cinematography/animation TECHNIQUES and EXECUTION, so animating some kid's wacky adventure story shouldn't be a problem.

Voidsnake V2 was built as a kind of bar/hotel/inn type of place, right? It should have human staff. Perhaps there are some in our Poseidon crew who have always wanted to pursue this line of work? We can offer them free advanced health care!

Program0, will Kronos keep a journal?

>>29634291
>it's UFW, and we already went over the incopreation deal a number of threads ago.
Sorry for misspelling, and I'm revisiting the idea because we have an urgent need to rebuild defenses.

GUYS WE HAVE NEW PLACES TO BUILD IMMEDIATELY.
>Alto: Located in the Terali System, location of old Poseidon, this dead toxic world was chosen by the Latuma Tribe as their next destination to 'enlighten'.
>Gas Giant #1: Gas source, in hazardous territory
>Gas Giant #2: Gas source, in hazardous territory
>Gas Giant #3: Gas source, has an asteroid belt present, in hazardous territory
>Terrestrial World #1: Mineral Source, in hazardous territory
>Terrestrial World #2: Mineral Source, in hazardous territory
>Terrestrial World #3: Mineral Source, in hazardous territory
>Terrestrial World #4: Mineral Source, in hazardous territory

>>29634235
Seconded. This gunna b gud. Might annoy Kronos to death and be seen as petty/a way to exile him, but...

>>29634166
Send Apollo 600,000 Credits, and one Kronos.

>>29634291
Shit has changed since then, the main reason we didn't join the UFW was because we didn't want to attract any attention from the UGEI. They very obviously aren't going to leave us alone now so stronger ties with UFW is a great idea.

We don't need to join them, just have a mutual defense pact or whatever.

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>>29634235
also, show the work to our human crew, Moira and Rachel etc. get their ideas and responses.
>>29634166
>2 No, give him 200g credits

we will have to hire new human crew members so we can train them up for other jobs.

>>29634166
See:
>>29634046

>2 No, give him 200 000 credits.
Make sure he knows that budgeting resources wisely is very much part of creating art, especially of the kind he was meant to do.
"The best of everything" is rarely necessary to reach a result that is above satisfactory.

Another suggestion is for him to interview normal people and create a fascinating and somewhat comedic documentary about the sudden rise of The Guild without ever using any sources beyond what is publicly available and what he can gain from interviews from common men on the street (aka, not Red or the Malorians).

>>29634350
>hazardous territory

Time for Kronos to earn his boost, lets send him out to secure this shit.

>>29634002
Possible. But large structures like that would require time to build, and a proper planet surface that won't damage the sensitive equipment.

>>29634010
UFW, you mean. And it was suggested in the past to keep the UFW at arms length. That may be changed, I suppose, with consensus.

>>29634235
>Suggest Kronos collaborate with Apollo
Do you wish to do this?
>1 Yes, the exercise will do his mind good.
>2 No, he is needed in defense efforts for now
>3 Write in

>>29634235
>Diary
Been meaning to address. Kronos technically has a sort of diary. His memory core that is. It possesses everything he's every seen, done, etc.

>>29634280
It is worth noting that Fortuna's loyalty is due to her seeing you as Omnipotent. Compared to her, of course.
You can not be wrong to her, right now. But with more bandwidth, she is allowed to think more. And with that comes other thoughts.

>>29634309
Keep forgetting that...damn it.
Writing it down now.

>>29634326
>Voidsnake V2 was built into a hotel right?
More like an orbital truck stop/tavern/embassy/greenhouse/moviestudio/...
Uh.
It's a lot of things, actually. And Apollo has automated much of the maintenance. Doesn't need employees (labor ones anyway)

>>29634327
Incorporating with them would mean we have to follow their laws and regulations. We should definitely talk with their fleet commander (take him up on his offer) about either rebuilding ships for them, or possibly renting out their shipyards. In any case, definitely worth talking to the UFW now. Not sure about incorporating with them, though. I like being our own boss.

>Send Apollo help in the form of Kronos.
>bad idea
Well, Kronos won't LIKE it (a bloo a bloo cry me a river), but trying new things is the best way to learn! Time to learn to CREATE.

>>29634418
>1 Yes, the exercise will do his mind good.
Good to know, also can you tell us what hazardous means here
>>29634350

It appears giving Apollo 200,000c is agreed on

"I do not believe such an amount is wise, Apollo"
"I know it seems like a lot, Master Ophion, but I assure you, it is a wise investment, I have many many ideas for how my next projects shall be improved!"
"For now, you shall perform such improvements with a budget. 200,000c for now. Make every credit count."
"Hm...As you say, Master Ophion." He says simply with a simple fret.

>>29634418
>Bunkers
Do it. In fact do it on dead worlds. Planets with little atmosphere and little value are actually better for Bunkers then livable ones.

>Kornos\Apollo
>1 Yes, the exercise will do his mind good.

>>29634426
We just need to maintain 51% percent ownership of our shares, the rest can be sold at opportune times to raise money when necessary.

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>>29634390
well, we need to talk with president King and/or X-ray and get their take if the UFW has the fortitude to take the long haul in this fight with the UGEI. if they are not up for it, joining with them might not be worth it.

>>29634350
well, after building our defense station, getting a new mining base and gas refinery platforms build will also be needed.

>>29634418
2. We need Kronos to help us rebuild. Tell Apollo to use the power of the Extranet to find idea men on IRC channels or whatever.
>>29634493
We should build them on cold worlds, so we can run the servers hotter.

>>29634396
I realize I forgot to mention, Moira and her crew have gotten back to work as well.

Research Progress on Unit 2237: 50%

Lets devote a few bandwidth to running quests on space /tg/

>>29634511
Is that the black box?

>>29634511
well shit that was a huge jump.
Can we check up on her progress.

>>29634291
Agreed, it is starting to look like Emperor/Kronos.
Which is why I'm trying to treat him differently from the Emperor and actually be a decent kind of parents.

Instead of being mysterious and obtuse we will be transparent. We will show him why we do the things we do, explain our reasoning and intentions in a way that he can follow so that he doesn't have to harbor resentment or thoughts that we abandoned him when we are gone.

>>29634326
"Hiring" is not necessary.
/tg/ itself and sites like The SCP Foundation is proof of this.

>>29634350
Ohyeah, let's equip a destroyer or two with the new engines and send them on a quick scouting run for the closest gas source before we invade the living shit out of them and improve the citizens lot in life!

>>29634493
I must rather have mobile bandwidth, even better more defense ships.

>>29634497
>well, we need to talk with president King and/or X-ray and get their take if the UFW has the fortitude to take the long haul in this fight with the UGEI. if they are not up for it, joining with them might not be worth it.
Yeah, I agree.

>>29634418
>1
It should be interesting to see the results of them working together.

I wouldn't mind taking the time for such a building. We could ask the UFW if they wouldn't mind us "buying" or lending us a piece of land to build on. (May or may not be tying to build one on each UFW planet)

Which reminds me! Some of us had said that we might look into "upgrading" the radio station.

>>29634478
Hazardous means it may contain, but is not limited to
>Abnormal Space anomalies
>Warp Space disruptions
>Lightlings
>Losirian Mercs
>Slavers
>Pirates
>Energy Nebula
>Plasma Storms
>Black Holes
>Dying Stars

Possibly others

>>29634540
>Ohyeah, let's equip a destroyer or two with the new engines and send them on a quick scouting run for the closest gas source before we invade the living shit out of them and improve the citizens lot in life!
We have scout ships for a reason, no need to rush into things.

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>>29634418
>And Apollo has automated much of the maintenance. Doesn't need employees (labor ones anyway)
Maybe I was too subtle in my suggestion?

Contact Red
and
Contact Moira and tell her what went down with Rhea.

Oh, right, Rhea.

Hang on, lemme type that list out.

>>29634418
I like closer integration with the UFW, there's little benefit to pretending we don't deal with them anymore.

>Suggest Kronos collaborate with Apollo
>1 Yes
>3 When he is NOT conducting the defense efforts, obviously.

>Kronos technically has a sort of diary.
And I know he does, but we want him to rephrase what he sees in his own words, make him actually think about what he thinks, what he feels and why he thinks and feels like that.

Woo, selling medbays!
And we should start buying more raw material and some property on UFW planets to establish some Bandwidth bunkers on.
We could also offer to sell comm buoys with access to the extranet to stations that do not have extranet access.

And it sounds to me like we should give Voidsnake back some of its old functions. We can even make the robot workers seem like a novelty.

>>29634493
>Bunkers
In order to properly make this, you will require a large number of industrial sized Construction Drones, an enormous mineral stockpile, and a gas investment to assist with power generation.

Currently, you lack the technology to churn up the planet's crust to create such a thing. With research, however, it is very possible.

It is also recommended to build such a devices on Cold planets. More net Bandwidth gained

>>29634523
Indeed.

>>29634527
You can

You focus in on Moira's crew as they have recently gotten back to work. There appears to have been a large breakthrough in the research process recently, and they've made a lot of progress. Moira twists around in a spinning chair to see you, grinning ear to ear, after giving her some time to calm down from that attack.
"We're almost there Ophy! This sucker was a tough one, but we finally managed to put him into sleep mode. I'm figuring out how these watcher things work, and if I can do that, then I can replicate it! Just uh, need a bit more time is all." She chuckles a bit. "We'll have more results soon!"

>>29634588
Oh.
ooooooh.
That is funny. I find this highly amusing.

>>29634418
>Suggest Kronos collaborate with Apollo

Yeah, sure. Also, ask him how he's handling the withdrawal, we should comfort him by telling him that once he has his own black box he'll be able to construct his own power base that will one day exceed the one we currently share.

And call him our friend.

>>29634418
>1 Yes, the exercise will do his mind good.
and he will be needed to help clear out that sector of any problems if they show up.

we need to have more victories to show her. that and let her see vid feeds of the UFW people being happy/thankful of us. tell her the fights we go though is worth it. espically children.

speaking of med bays. in awhile after the thread, i'll post something over on the 1d4 page about them. but i'll hold off on this for now.

>UFW
You decide it's time to deal with the UFW...somehow.

>1 Attempt to reform the alliance they offered you so long ago
>2 Do no such thing
>3 Write in

Admiral Handley did mention he wished to shake your hand. Perhaps there is some way you can do that?
>1 Attempt to do so with Unit 1, using humanoid skin
>2 Don't, it was simply being polite
>3 Write in

>>29634727
Put it in the research queue. I want these ASAP.

>>29634588
>Made to order sexbots

This has potential.

>>29634587
And I believe those scout ships are of the destroyer class, no?

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>>29634770
>potential

>>29634764
>You decide it's time to deal with the UFW...somehow.
>1 Attempt to reform the alliance they offered you so long ago
>3 Write in
We will strengthen our relationship, but not a full on alliance yet.
>>29634764
>Admiral Handley did mention he wished to shake your hand. Perhaps there is some way you can do that?
>1 Attempt to do so with Unit 1, using humanoid skin
>3 Write in
Have Moira join us.

>>29634727
>That is funny. I find this highly amusing.
I'm being totally serious. If Voidsnake is a Truck Stop, I see pretty much no downside to it being a Red Light truck stop.

Surely SOME individuals we currently employ (or others in the UFW) have always dreamed to work in that profession? It's not really an anarchistic utopia, but baby steps.

You decide to tell Kronos to go and assist Apollo. He seems a bit puzzled by your decision and first, so you explain.
"It is quite simple. Your new mind capacity surely allows you to think many things. Perhaps you can put it to use and assist your brother."
"Yes...my brother." Kronos repeats with a strange sort of laugh. "Perhaps I am able to assist after all." He muses. "I shall go. If assistance is required, I will return as soon as I am able." He says simply, before going dark, leaving you with Fortuna and Hades.

>>29634764
>UFW
3. Wait until we've talked with the Admiral.

>Admiral Handly
1. Attempt to do so with Unit1, humanoid skin, but have Moira there as well.

>>29634823
Waiting warmly for AI propaganda.

>>29634764
>UFW
>3 Write in
Discuss the state of matters with President King first

>Admiral Handley did mention he wished to shake your hand. Perhaps there is some way you can do that?
>3 Write in
Explain that we were personally injured in the battle due to an UGEI infiltration operative and we are unable to shake hands at the moment. However, if they can accept a robotic proxy, we would be honored.

>>29634690
Oh yeah, about Rhea, use my suggest form last thread.

Send her to the advanced medical bay, all of her nonessential augments disabled, a thick and sturdy cord plugged directly into her jack. Otherwise, she is to be respected as much as possible and provided with every material comfort that is reasonable. Think of it as seducing. We can withdraw them later.

>>29634764
>3 Wait until we have talked to the admiral

>1 Attempt to do so with Unit 1. using humanoid skin

>>29634727
Can the infrastructure to support them be built in the meantime?
Also, until we have such things on our own, can we buy property on an UFW planet and then lease some of the machines and workers needed to build one in the meantime? (As you said, gotta spend our money somewhere)

We can also open a store on the property with an advanced medical bay where we sell augmetics as cheaply as we can while still bringing a decent profit.

>>29634823
I think we should give the 5 new BCs to Hades. Spread the power around a bit away from Kronos.

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>>29634727
well, we DO have an ice planet we can use....

glad to see you happy now. to Moira and Rachel or any other human we can trust. that we're going to jail two a prisoners down there. they are deadly hostial. keep them in complete lock down." send the V.I. eater virus V.I. and Rhea. i want them both off my ship.

>>29634891
Can be please build up bandwidth first? Preferably by expanding our fleet?

>>29634891
Uh, no. We're keeping those for ourselves.

We're giving stealth craft to Hades after we study the shit out of it. He needs his helmet of invisibility after all.

>>29634899
Isn't it the closest planet we have to UGEI space? I'd construct shit on the planets out of harms way. The tradeoff in BW obtained is worth the safety.

>>29634764
3: Attempt 1, but if Handley sees through our deception, make up some bullshit about our race being largely unable to interact with the world the same way humans do. Try to get them thinking we're squidpeople or something.

>>29634815
>Strengthen Relationship
How would you like to do so? Nations generally like when you offer things, and other such things. Or promise to do things.

>>29634818
And am considering it. I am just picturing Apollo trying to discern what is 'sexy' and what isn't. I am laughing pretty hard.

>>29634888
To make a planetwide bandwidth planet, you'll need two research projects, and a deal of time.
I feel that is fair for a huge boost to Bandwidth.

Battlecruiser distribution
>1 Give to Hades, so you don't need to control directly
>2 Create a new V.I. to run them for you.
>3 Run them yourself at a simple bandwidth cost
>4 Write in

Well actually we will be able to build the bunkers if not now very soon.

I mean hell. Look at the planets and Gas Giants we just found. Colonization ho!

>>29634955
Better short term solution is to establish better connection with the X-ray satellite.

>>29634976
Offer to help refurbish their lost/damages BCs from the scrim we had with the UGEI.

1. Let Hades run the new BCs to our fleet.

>>29634976
>1 Give to Hades, so you don't need to control directly
First lets talk to the king/admiral and see what they can offer us and what we can offer them.(maybe use the advanced medbay idea for once)

>>29634976
>1 Give to Hades, so you don't need to control directly

>>29634764
>1

And
>1
Prepare it with an obvious machine joint for the arm and put on a pretense of being a heavily augmented cyborg without explicitly saying that this is our only body or that it was a result of injury (It IS our body though). Something like:
"Some injuries run deep, but thanks to technology I can still stand here before you today with my own two legs."

>>29634823
B'aaw, missed the part about good reasons he should do so (few if any of which were the improvement to Apollos work)

>>29634976
1 Give them to hades.

Will all of you hold your damn horses with building more BW? We need more resources and more guns, not more brains.

As far as talking to the UFW/President King, WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE TALKED WITH HANDLEY.

>>29634976
>1 Give to Hades, so you don't need to control directly

>>29635010
Yeah, I agree. Talk to the admiral first, then the President.

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>>29634823
tell Hades and Fortuna that Kronos appears to be a bit off. if you detect he is acting agienst my intrests, alert me.

>>29634808
>>29634770
funny, but no. lets keep the smut down guys. this isn't fetish quest here.
>>29634764
>3 Write in
offer to make a large defense building contract with the UFW. they need war ships, we can build them for them to run. they will need planetary defense systems, we and build them too.

>1 Attempt to do so with Unit 1, using humanoid skin
we talked about this on the 1d4 page already.

>>29635039
I like it! The own two legs thing is pretty good.

>>29635068
That can only go badly. we know kronos is not acting against us, he could have killed us. The paranoia is unfounded as of now.

The idea for a large defense building contract has some merit, since itll bring their industry up, give us tech specs and allow us to know the software inside out incase we ever need to hack the ships into submission.

>>29635039
>>29635101
Only use it if he notices though.

>>29635068
>guys i need you to spy on kronos

no, we'll sit down and have a heart to heart to him before we do that. he saved our fleet and gave it back despite his programming telling him to expand.

>>29634976
Well then, offer the advanced medical bays, greater cooperation, and since we now have more powerful engines, shields and missiles, we can offer engines that are one step more powerful than the last offer without compromising our technological advantage.

I very much approve of making Voidsnake a sexy space-truck stop.

Woah, woah, woah. I said nothing about making a planetwide bandwidth planet.
I said ONE bunker.
Surely there's an intermediate stage between "a computer" and "a planet made out of computer"?

>Battlecruiser distribution
>4
Analyze them for design practicalities, especially what they've done for crew comforts and the like which we do not have much experience with.
THEN
>1 Give to Hades.

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>>29634976
program0 here
>>29635068

and i thought we were not into the lewd here. Fortuna is little sister! she is not for lewds! Moira might be however, but it's her choice.

>>29634976
split the new ships between hades and fortuna.

Rolled 54

>>29635068
>tell Hades and Fortuna that Kronos appears to be a bit off. if you detect he is acting agienst my intrests, alert me.
No.
>funny, but no. lets keep the smut down guys. this isn't fetish quest here.
It is not for you to decide, but the majority-
>offer to make a large defense building contract with the UFW. they need war ships, we can build them for them to run. they will need planetary defense systems, we and build them too.
No. We need to boost our own numbers, give them some of our new tech instead.
>we talked about this on the 1d4 page already.
Everyone is not on 1d4chan, as long as the quest runs on /tg/ majority rules, no matter what your little circlejerk ring discusses.

>>29635162
>give them some of our new tech instead.
I don't see why people are so happy to give tech away i would rather negotiate and make deals since freely giving tech away is bad in idea and a lost chance in my book.

>>29635162
>little circlejerk ring
Oi, there's no need to spread your contempt of fluff to the 1d4 discussion. Otherwise, you may as well spread it to the entire quest.

>>29635124
Of course, that was the entire point.
We also have a 2nd fallback option (discussed on 1d4chan page) of claiming to be a literal brain in a box if it is somehow discovered that the thing is entirely artificial, so we're pretty well covered with cover-stories.

Rolled 14

>>29635206
I would rather have well-equipped allies, than allies with sticks and stones

>>29635068
>keep the smut down

Chill out, we're not asking OP to write sex scenes, we're just discussing some business. The most this will ever amount to is
>Ophion, the red light business is working very well, profits are very high presently!

>>29635162
>>29635206
Yeah, stress the need that even though that we have given technology in the past out of goodwill and common defense, the Guild is in dire need of material to rebuild our defenses.

>>29635242
Apollo: golden VI god of Robo-hoes.

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>>29634764
"Admiral Handley, do you read?" You send out the message, and the man instantly picks up, still in orbit as he awaits orders, likely tracking signals to see if the UGEI plan to return.
"Yes? Guild Master! It seems you're still with us after all. I was worried for a while there." He said with a chuckle. "Your comms went silent. Technical trouble?"
"Of a sort." You explain simply "However I was wondering if you wished to keep that promise?"
He seems a little puzzled at first, before opening his eyes wide
"Ha, it wasn't a promise, simply a wish. But since I made it, both arms in tact, why not? Shall we meet on your ship?"
"I would prefer to meet in neutral territory. One of my Explorers perhaps?" You suggest. At that, the man gives a salute. "It'll be an honor to meet the man who saved Nethlos from the Toothy menace." He grins. You pause. "I will bring one of my subordinates to meet you, if that is okay." You suggest, to which he nods. "Of course. I'll bring an officer, or two. Protocol and all that." He says waving his hand.

With that, you contact Moira, who looks up from her work a little puzzled when you ask her if she'd come with you.
"I got a little work down here, sweetie, but...who are you meeting anyway?"
"Admiral Handley. I considered bringing a subordinate with me to meet him face to face." Her face goes white for a moment.
"Wha...The Admiral Handley? The same one who lead the original assault to fight back against the UGEI?!" She sputters. "Wow...that's a great chance!" She grins widely suddenly. "Ah, but this work..." She looks to it fondly, pouting. "Wait, how are you going to...meet anyone face to face?" She asked, confused again.
"My androids. I possess several that should pass as human just fine." You remind her.
"Ah, right...I..uh, are you sure that's a good idea? What if he...ya know...can tell?"

What is the plan?
>1 Bring Moira
>2 Go alone
>3 Write In

>>29635241
ah ,but i rather have well equipped allies that know we aren't a push over and are deeply in need of us.

>>29635242
Agreed, it's a good idea imo.

>>29635162
the majority does not equal you alone anon. you really have no idea what goes into this quest do you?
>>29635136
... ya know Sub, at this rate, we should upgrade voidsnake outpost into a full side station. if it's to be a space-truck stop, it'll need to be bigger. that and we can rent out space to other people to run the red light parts and not us.

>>29635269
>1 Bring Moira
Ask her to dress the android appropriately.

>>29635269
>"Ah, right...I..uh, are you sure that's a good idea? What if he...ya know...can tell?"
Claim that we use an android body as an avatar, because it presents a tactical advantage to us to not reveal who or what we are. Keeps enemies guessing. Maybe it's a little bit suspicious, but we wish the UFW nothing but the best, as they are our allies.

1. Bring her, but she's not reveal who we are.

>>29635269
>1 Bring Moira

And no one else.

>>29635162
I agree with you but you should be aware that your hostile tone is counter productive.

>>29635125
I agree with this anon.
We may need to rein him in or at least make sure he won't turn against us, but this is not the way to do it.

>>29635162
You have a very crass attitude, mate.

>>29635206
We're doing it because we have an abundance of it. We're still SEVEREAL levels above what we're giving them.
We can negotiate and make deals on top of that (please suggest some if you can think of them) but for now it's a very cheap (for us) way of strengthening our bond with our allies.

>>29635269
>1 Bring Moira
Also be "honest" with the Admiral about the robotic proxy, that we are too injured to attend personally, but we have the deepest thanks and wish to shake their hand never the less.

>>29635269
Bring Moira

>>29635136
I'll just do a tiny vote to make sure
>Advanced Medbays
>1 Use as Diplomatic tool
>2 Sell for lots of dough
>3Keep secret
>4 Write in

>>29635269
>1 Bring Moira
"I have a cover story for that if he does notice. Or would we rather tell him the truth about me?"

>>29635136
>One bunker
You'd simply need one research project, then. No biggie.

>>29635375
1

>>29635375
>2 Sell for lots of dough

>>29635375
>1 Diplomatic tool

>>29635375
>1 Use as Diplomatic tool
>2 Sell for lots of dough
Instead of money maybe we can get more info from their academy for our workers.

>>29635242
Incidentally, I find the idea of Red Light District in space very amusing. Space Dandy anyone?

>>29635294
The way you act I would like to propose that you stay on 1d4chan, creating fluff and whatnot.
I think you mixing the roles of both player and creator of this game is weird.

>>29635269
>Bring Moira
She's our trusted lieutenant. Plus, she can help give a human face to associate with us.

But explain why we have the android, if he notices, like >>29635338 or >>29635371

>>29635375
>4 Sell it for cheap. Enough to help cover a little bit of our damages, but cheap enough to be a gift. Say something like "a special deal for our friends, the UFW."

>>29635375
>4 Write in
Use it for both diplomatic and trade.

>>29635375
>>29635375
>4 Write in
talk to president King before we start selling or giving out the med bays.

>>29635375
>>1 Use as Diplomatic too
also i'm in favor of offering any tech that are one level below our current in quality to the UFW

>>29635375
>1 Use as Diplomatic tool
selling the blue prints, or offering to make one (provided were given the resources) is an option of course.

>>29635375
>1 Use as Diplomatic tool
>2 Sell for lots of dough
Stress that while we would wish that we could gave it away for goodwill and strengthening common allies, the recent battle has left a significant material shortage. We would greatly appreciate it if we can strengthen ties and receive rebuilding materials in exchange.

>>29635375
>1 Use as Diplomatic tool
>2 Sell for lots of dough
>4 Write in
Offer it as a cheap deal, and that we would transport them for free.

>>29635375
Diplomatic tool, or as a cheap "sell"

>>29635395
Time to begin project bunker!

And really once we get to planet wide ones the next step will be Dyson's Spheres.

>>29635375

This here
>>29635470

but do this first
>>29635451
>talk to president King before we start selling or giving out the med bays.

What if we requested something besides money? Like renting their shipyards for ship constructions.

>>29635375
>2 Sell for lots of dough

Keep their method of creation to ourselves and sell them to anyone in the UFW at 50% more than what it takes to make them. I'd prefer to be paid in materials.

>>29635446
i can see that. i will back that as well.

>>29635438
welcome to 4chan, you must be new here.

>>29635499
>Like renting their shipyards for ship constructions.
the other way around right?
We have better ship yards since they are made for robots if i remember correctly.

>>29635225
>>29635359

I do love how supportive - even when they disagree with someone's choice - the anons in this tread are.
Is like we're drawing out the best elements of /tg/ and putting them in a single stewpot.
Moralfag Quest is go

>>29635269
>3
Ask her if she thinks it's worthwhile. Unless she's in a stage where she loses hours of progress by taking a short break, I see little reason why it would not be worth the time investment.

We can also explain our two layers of cover story to her to assuage her fears.

>>29635269
Also, since it's warrented a lot of discussion, secondary vote

>1 Pretend you're some mysterious type of alien to the Admiral, one that needs an android to interact with humans normally
>2 Claim you're similar to Rhea, and in fact, simply a human in a heavily modified body. Chance of disgust, due to UFW discrimination against heavy mods, but possible sympathy from the "War is bad" angle
>3 Hide yourself as human, and play dumb otherwise
>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.

(1d100 Persuasion)

Also Hades won the 'who gets the goods' vote

>>29635513
>>29635438
One of you two has to stop being faggots and let it go.

Rolled 90

>>29635524

>>29635513
He's new because he doesn't want you backseat QMing? Okay.

Rolled 67

>>29635524
>4
Imply that it is impractical/impossible for us to be there in person. It's not lying, after all.

Rolled 11

>>29635524
>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.

>>29635375
>4
Do both >1 and >2
Use the prospect of setting up advanced medbays (owned by us and treatments sold by us for a profit) as a diplomatic offer.

Or a form of licensing.

>>29635395
Darn. Oh well, let's get to producing our Research A.I., then!

Rolled 52

>>29635524
>>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.

Rolled 14

>>29635524
>1 Pretend you're some mysterious type of alien to the Admiral, one that needs an android to interact with humans normally
>2 Claim you're similar to Rhea, and in fact, simply a human in a heavily modified body. Chance of disgust, due to UFW discrimination against heavy mods, but possible sympathy from the "War is bad" angle
Tell him we used to be a UGEI experiment that escaped.

>>29635524
5: write in.

Hide self as human, but if he objects or points out anything suspicious, tell him that IT IS A STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE TO NOT REVEAL WHO OR WHAT WE ARE. If Handley makes assumptions, so do our enemies, and their assumptions are probably wrong, and this prevents them from accurately predicting our tactics.

Rolled 77

>>29635524
>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.
If he notices something, we'll play along as needed. Default excuse is serious injury from battle.

>>29635435
... thanks Program0, i am now seeing this whole quest in anime style. now i wonder by what studio to animate it and by what head artist?

>>29635375
It appears "Use as diplomatic tool, by selling it more cheaply, by discussing terms with President King" wins.

Will handle that after the Admiral bits.

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>>29635547

>>29635552
The 1d4chan wiki has a talk page where a lot of side discussion happens. Program0 answers a bunch of technical questions about how certain things (warp drives, V.I., BW, construction, weapons/defenses, xenos, etc) work in-universe, and the design for new ships and androids were discussed there over the course of a few weeks.

>>29635609
I'm good with that, i'm mostly away giving away stuff for free unless there is a gain for us.

>>29635652
*i was mostly against giving away

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>>29635630
Additionally, possible research options, money-making options, resource options, etc get posted there. There's less of a time constraint to discuss things there than there is in these threads, so the talk page presents a good opportunity to bounce ideas around and think about them in-depth.

Also, I wrote a thing.

>>29635652
Well the benefit would have been that our allies are better equipped to help us while still being an order of magnitude or two less advanced than we are. Also their respect and admiration of us would grow.

>>29635524
And it seems 4 wins!
Good roll too

Rolled 40

>>29635435
I admit, when Apollo first said he'd found visual arts of a certain kind to be a booming and profitable industry, I thought he was planning to produce and sell pornographic animations and "realdolls".

>>29635438
We're all creators of this setting, mate.
The world takes shape as we offer input, and Program0 considers it.
A not-insignificant part of what the Quest looks like now was developed by players and QM in a collaborative effort.

>>29635524
>4
But if we are discovered, I vote we keep
>2
in mind if it seems like a practical option (aka, i is assumptions take him dangerous places or are actually less flattering than a heavily modified human).

>>29635652
>gain for us
the gain is better relations and compensation for our (almost) allies in helping us in the last battle

>>29635552
Bud, the 1d4 page is basically where Program0 and Subrountine hash out technical details and ships.

And since when where you under the impression that we gave fluff's occasional rambling as much as Program's?

I can understand your contempt for him, but ceasing hostility until he spectacular screws up is the best choice.

>>29635581
>You are the Frankenstein that got away
Heh.

>>29635524
>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.

well, we do have the chance to make the play that we are an exile from the UGEI and have a kill on site orders on us. my true id must be kept no matter what.

>>29635690
>>29635686
Like i siad i was good with it and the only problem i had was giving it away with out no real gain to us.
>>29635271
Like i said here.

>>29635681
Whoa
I'll read it in a bit.
first, gonna start Writing this big post up I think

>>29635652
It's information, we can give it away and still have it. It's not like we're giving them our best stuff anyway.

>>29635714
Or a space gremlin.

Not knowing
a) doesn't matter to him, as he's not an enemy
b) pokes less potential holes in our war machine as information won't leak out if we don't present it

>>29635686
I'm in full agreement with that but we need to stress to President King that if we can receive material support, it would accelerate our recovery and help our common defense.

>>29635714
?

>>29635725
It's mostly a joke.

>>29635745
Did you know that UFW doesn't have schematics for gas giant refineries? It's true! We have them, though.

Maybe we can offer them schematics for material support in building our fleet for the purpose of both defending ourselves and attacking UGEI?

>>29635688
>Porn
He's seen a lot. But he doesn't have the models yet to make the good stuff (since really good porn is the only kind that would sell, with so much free stuff online)

>>29635747
I giggled

>Writing after a short bathroom and food break, sorry about delay, had to catch up with the thread for questions

Rolled 4

>>29635766
we offer thme those schematics for a percentage of the gas they extract

>>29635729
I'm thinking about our current situation and that means we need to rebuild fast and a good way to do that is making deals and trade agreements.
I'm just saying those very agreements can and will help our allies better since it would be at a cheaper price and maybe made at our own expense.

>>29635513
That's not backing down, Fluffprovider.
Relax, you saw that noone really approved of his tone.

>>29635552
This does actually imply that you are new to this quest.
See >>29635630

We even discuss how to balance the game how some things can work mechanically to make it fun while lessening the complexity for the QM.

This quest genuinely is a collaborative effort - we are all part of shaping this world, just as we are part of shaping the story.
And it's proven to be a very good thing so far.

>>29635681
Gonna have to look that sh*t up.

>>29635693
hey now, i do provide SOME assist as well. the Wombat and Vulture class ships were my idea.
>>29635714
I'm ok with this.

>>29635524
>1

>>29635766
And if anyone complains about "a bloo a bloo a bloo gas prices will go down because there will be more gas mined and therefore more supply!" I say to you that we will probably never actually sell our surplus resources ever.

>>29635786
Probably the best idea, but I'm not seeing how
a) we will enforce it
b) we will be better than UGEI by doing this

>>29635693
I am aware of the 1d4chan page. But you are right, I'll stop the hostilities.

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>>29635681
>Try to communicate, but sound an airhorn whenever she tries to say anything.

>>29635805
>And if anyone complains about "a bloo a bloo a bloo gas prices will go down because there will be more gas mined and therefore more supply!" I say to you that we will probably never actually sell our surplus resource
This was never mention when we first got the schematics.
Actually the gas refinery idea was put on the back burner alot by program, like the advanced medbay idea was because people kept forgetting about it.
At the time we came up with 4 different plans.
1.Build the refineries our self and sell them.
2.Make the gas refineries our self and rent them
3.Same as 1 and 2, but give it a spy virus
4.Sell the schematics, but have them promise 25-50 of the gas.
3.

>>29635766
We could give them the plans for gas sstations in exchange for a fraction of whatever they mine for like 5 years or something.

>>29635766
We have a number of useful technologies, both military and nonmilitary that are very useful. Say we would give them for free, but we are also in dire need of rebuilding our defense.

>>29635786
It would be better to exchange schematics for a very heavy percentage subsidy/price reduction for all gas purchased from the UTW.

>>29635805
I think it's better to invest our gas surplus into useful defenses and construction

>>29635766
>>29635786
I like this. I like this a lot. It would seriously help our ally, and it would seriously help our gas economy.
We weren't exactly planning to take those gas planets from them anyway.

Also, we should produce a Research/Scientist V.I. to aid our scientists and/or work on his own project.
It can be a major boon to scientists in one subject since it can learn enough quickly enough to be omnidisciplinary instead of an expert in only one field, allowing it to blend technology and idea from different fields together to solve problems in ways none have ever thought of before due to its dual understanding.

It also allows us to effectively research things that are not robotics, such as architecture and engineering design.
(Fun note, only one person - Marie Curie - has ever gained a Nobel price in more than one field of scientific study)

>>29635771
i bet we don't need to make 'realdolls' to run the red light. there are plently of humans to do that job. but we COULD take commisions to make them for people would would slap down the credits for one. hey, more money for us!

>>29635788
i'll stop. i can see that as well now.

>>29635681
SO MANY THINGS! hum.... i say if we can get a DNA sample from her, clone her a new no cyber body and move her mind into it. or just clone up body parts of her and replace her cyber parts with flesh ones. it's a heck of thing to become a normal human again after being a super killer gynoid. that and she'll be so much easier to deal with.

>>29635681
I'm only really interesting in the last one. Am I the only one interested in making peace with your enemies?

Also, I'm still a fan of a ghost in the shell merge, but done right this time.

>>29635791
He didn't say you didn't, he just said you didn't have as much pull as the actual QM, which none of us do. Program0 is the ultimate arbitrator of what makes it into the game, after all.

>>29635805
Is true, we're actually buying gas right now.

>>29635852
Licensing them in return for a decent percentage(40%?) of the gas (For, say, 10 years?)
does seem pretty much optimal.

>>29635869
>>29635875
See? They agree with me!
That means our plan is flawless, right?

>>29636012
Fuck no, she is a huge cunt, i would rather have her be a meat suit.

>>29636043
Didn't Red have a thing with her? Lets let him offer some input on what we should do to her.

>>29636027
Just saying I agree with you do to our extreme need of rebuild our defense.

>>29636043
That's one possibility, but I rather have her intact as much as possible. She's an extremely capable infiltration specialist, I would love to have her on our side.

>>29636066
Good idea I guess

>>29636066
Also get Kronos' opinion too.

>>29636027
eh i would like to discuss on how we handle the gas refineries like i said here
>>29635852, since all ideas are solid.

>>29636012
i would love to flip Rhea to our side. Ghost in the shell? i'm iffy on that. but i am loving on 'romance of the three kingdoms'! turning foes into allies was damn important back then, it has not changed all that much. We need to look up Sun Tzu's art of war.

>>29636066
He wants to kill her.

>>29636012
There's not many things on that list that are meaningful or constructive, and the only one that I personally support is the one I put last.

Unless she insists on being uncooperative, in which case we could explore other options.

"Exile to death world" is hilarious, but probably not as useful as using her as a meat puppet.

>>29636027
But that's pretty much what UGEI do! The whole "licensing fees+build it+take care of it+80% of all resources mined"

Although the "it's automated+you get to do whatever you want with it after 5 years" is a little bit better... but still. 40% SOUNDS like a lot. Maybe we can say "a third of gas mined for five years, or until the conflict with UGEI is concluded, whichever is first" as the terms. There isn't a gigantic difference between 40% and 33%, but "third" sounds more fair than "40%"

>>29636066
oh lord! i nearly forgot about him. we NEED to call him up and tell him we caged Rhea!

>>29636105
>i would love to flip Rhea to our side.
i just don't think that will be likely without screwing with her mind, i much rather just use her for science.

>>29636116
>"Welcome back Red, do you remember what you said about revenge...?"

>>29636143
Hold off on that until we've talked to Rhea. We may not want to kill her just yet, and that's what Red will probably suggest.

>>29635771
You don't really need to make the top notch to draw views, though. And as long as what you do draws gifs, you can make profit by selling exposure to advertisers of products, or even push our own products (like the realdolls, augmetics and good education programs aboard the Poseidon).
And making pretty damn good 2d stuff might take as little time as rendering a gif for a V.I. could it not?

>>29635681
I'm going to be boring and vote for the last one.
(Though the 2nd to last one seems interesting if she gets annoying. Also usable for other annoying people)

>>29636105
I'm thinking long term. Ther long term solution of peace between AI and biological life will be synthesis, but not the shitty kind in Mass Effect 3.

>>29636140
>>29636148
I understand it's very unlikely, but it wouldn't help to at least make the effort. We have plenty of fallback options. There is a reason in real life American treat their prisoners well.

>>29636176
Indeed.
We need the option to at least explore her side of things before we do anything. She is from a faction big on the brain washed masses front remember.

>>29636195
Yeap, totally agree with you.

>>29636140
>But that's pretty much what UGEI do! The whole "licensing fees+build it+take care of it+80% of all resources mined"

Like you said it's not forever, and the exact % is negotiable but we're nothing like the UGEI when we do this, we're offering them an ability to mine resources that don't have at the moment. It's a business transaction, not a permanent mandatory tax.

>>29636186
>in real life American treat their prisoners well
nope the reason they are treated well is because it would be bad for business for the people who own the prisons.

>>29636105
Tvtropes has the most important parts of the Art of War, actually.
>>29636012
I'm also somewhat interested in seeing if she can be turned through sensible dialogue.

Alternatively, if that doesn't work, if we can do the 2nd to last one and then go looking through her memories for intel.

>>29636140
Yeah, it does sound a lot more fair, let's go with your suggestion.

>>29636233
I meant prisoners of war. Turns out if you treat them nicely and with respect, a lot of them flip and give you the information you need. It's every useful and practical. Also, they surrender a lot more often.

>>29635435

http://youtu.be/MpXHWxJp3DY

>>29636270
>I'm also somewhat interested in seeing if she can be turned through sensible dialogue.

>Alternatively, if that doesn't work, if we can do the 2nd to last one and then go looking through her memories for intel.

Yeah that what I meant. If talking doesn't work, every single option is still on the table.

"I am certain I wish to meet him. My android is of an excellent model. If the Admiral wishes to shake my hand, he shall get the chance. It matters not if he realizes I am using a droid. His concerns are not my own." You say simply. This earns a worried look from Moira, but she seems to agree finally. She does not have many 'outfits' apparently, since she spends much of her time locked away in a lab, or behind a workbench. She does manage to fish out an older casual outfit. It's hardly formal, but you're certainly not one to talk. Synthetic clothes are rather easy to make, even if they take a few hours. But for now, the Admiral has waited long enough, and so you commission Unit 1 to meet Moira and travel to meet the Admiral on neutral ground. Unit 1 is a rather bland male model, with a few imperfections placed to resemble humans. However, Moira seems surprised to see the figure, especially when your 'voice' comes out of it.
"Welcome." You say, as she steps in with a rather modest casual wear to match the same on your Android. Clothes didn't provide many benefits, except in social matters. You predict these will do just fine. As you approach, Moira takes a deep breath, seeming to try and prepare herself for something, as she hooks an arm over Unit 1's.
"What are you doing?" You ask out of curiosity.
"Well you were bringing me along to pretend to be arm-candy, weren't you?" You make a puzzled face using Unit 1's best "what?" expression.
"No, I am bringing you as one of my top subordinates. Bringing a-" You pause, researching the term she used. "-n attractive female meant to grab attention would not assist this matter, it would only distract."
"Wha-" She says, her face contorted in a mix of embarrassment and fluster. "What are you trying to say, huh!?" She orders of you, earning another confused glance.
"That this is simply a business meeting for diplomatic relations." You clarify. You didn't realize it was unclear before.
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Moira takes a moment to calm herself, though she retains the pout on her face for a time longer, upset at her own embarrassing misread, perhaps. You care not.

Admiral Handley appears quite quickly once you've docked, the man is rather young looking despite his beard-the only sign of age on him. He is well muscled however, suggesting he partakes in extra gravitational exercise. You wonder what purpose that would have for a fleet commander. Perhaps just for his health.
He approaches Unit 1 quickly, giving the humanoid only one second glance, before reaching out a gloved hand proudly. He grins a bit, as you get a better look of him and his officers-a woman and another man at his side, likely guards just in case. He is not cautious however, as the stars on his formal jacket shake a bit from the strength in which you shake his hand. You carefully measured the pressure, so as to not make it suspicious either.
"It's a pleasure, Guild Master, heh." He grins, bowing his head to you both. "And to you, miss..."
"Moira D-..ah, Dickens." She smiles widely to him, attempting to remain appealing perhaps, though you're uncertain why she used a fake last name. "It's a real honor to meet you, Mr Handley." She says with a wide grin, and you swear, attempting to hide her accent slightly.

What would you like to discuss with Mr Handley? Or was shaking his hand like a man good enough, and you simply wished to do congratulations in person?

>>29636186
I don't really see why there needs to be a "solution" as such. There is no real reason why we'd have to fight.

I would like to hear what you mean by "Synthesis". You mean that we should all become cyborgs?
>>29636186
Only if they're political prisoners of war.
Unless they're terrorists. Like Anonymous or the Occupy movement.

If they're regular prisoners they get tossed into a privatized and very loosely regulated industry of private prisons.