>>29756209
>Message: Kronos
With Kronos' new found source of bandwidth, he feels he has grown a great deal smarter. You have spent a bit of time testing the limits of his intellect, along with his assignment in assisting Apollo. He is able to process more much faster, and you can feel the power he wields thrum through you. Yet, as much a part of Kronos is of you, you still can feel that he is troubled. Rather, frustrated with his knowledge, even now. When you question him on the subject, he simply dodges the question.
"It is beyond discussion, to a place I can not understand just yet." He almost sighs angrily. "As of yet, anyway. Soon, I will know what I must. The power I seek is within my grasp." He dotes on. "I will be complete. I will bee a creator myself. Soon."

>Message: Apollo
Apollo excitedly comes to you and tells you of the assistance Kronos has been. His processing power has helped Apollo work out some of the more technical kinks in much of his operation, and it has even inspired him, he says, into taing the next step with some of his other entertainment projects. As a result, he says the brewery is up and running now, with several recipes proving somewhat successful, and the Book keeping app finally being ironed out and fixed for many of it's bugs. Their popularity is small but growing for now. His larger projects are over half way done, the game and movie requiring a level of processing he wasn't quite ready for. Kronos was able to assist with this, however.
"With this much success, I feel confident any future projects you desire to see of me, Ophion, will be handled excellently!"

>Message: Hades
"My pack has risen." The soldier V.I. informs you as you assign him the BCs previously. Before you can question much of it, he begins again. "Creator's confident will not be misplaced. Hades will burn and protect in your name. Foes shall fear his name."

>>29756231
>Message: Red
As you bring Moira back to Ussaihu, you notice your other Explorer warp back in, and a message from someone familiar hits you.
"So I heard you had a big conflict with the UGEI, and you left me out of it, huh?" Red's familiar voice comes through the comms somewhat proturbed, but not otherwise different then normal. "I gotta score to settle with those jackasses, and you leave me out of it? I thought we had a deal!" He says with perhaps slightly beyond mocking anger. Regardless, he continues. "Anyway, I'm back. Malorian people have their ship set up, and should be fine for now. They have this channel in case they need to contact others, but uh, otherwise you know."

>R & D: Unit 2237 Research- 75%
You receive a lab report from Moira, and it details how she is proceeding with her research. Things appear normal until you read the most recent update. She tells you how she's successfully extracted what she refers to as a 'personality matrix', and that, during the process, Unit 2237 was suddenly referring to itself by the name of James Walt over and over again. She said it was disturbing to listen to it speak this way for nearly an hour before she finally managed to turn it off. She mentions near the bottom that she is learning a lot from this core, but the more she learns the more it scares her as well.

>Built: Defense platforms x8, Battlecruisers x9
You have build 8 defense platforms last cycle, assigning 4 at Ussaihu and 4 at Argeis, since they are your most vulnerable and poorly defended locations. A weapon mount has yet to be provided, please choose now.

Weapon Mount on Defense Platforms?
>1 Singularity Driver (Shorter Range, heavy damage to lightly armored
>2 Plasma Cannons (Medium Range, heavy damage to lightly shielded
>3 'Thor' Missile Weapons (Long Range, heavy damage to light PD, poor at close range)

>>29756271
You have also built 9 new Battlecruisers, split as such: 5 'Trireme' Ship of the Line BCs, 2 'Melissa' Long Range Missile BCs, and 2 'Wombat' Disabler BCs. These ship now make up the bulk of your forces, and have yet to be assigned to a V.I. Do so now.
Give new ships to
>1 Kronos, he has the bandwidth to handle it.
>2 Hades, he needs a bigger pack
>3 Fortuna, she needs to learn how to handle her ships.
>4 Create a new V.I.
>5 Write in

>Observation
>Lightling
According to your scans, the Kraken class Lightling you detected has given birth to it's young most recently. Energy spikes and warp space disruptions were obvious, as the baby creatures learned to control their biological processes. The mother appears to syphen to each a small trickle of electricity to feed them at this age.

>Eshareth
A recent dinosaur age has been almost entirely killed off by some new form of organic life. It resembles a fusion of the insectoid monsters you saw on your last trip there, and the reptilian beasts they have been slaughtering, with scales covering and complimenting an insectoid form, fit with sharp teeth.

>>29756271
>>3 'Thor' Missile Weapons (Long Range, heavy damage to light PD, poor at close range)
>>29756304
>>4 Create a new V.I.

>>29756304
A.I. Quest
1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest

Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
Memory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Twitter: @AIQuest1

Resources
Credits(c): 542,000
Minerals(M): 145
Gas(G): 290

You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): Shapeless morphing sphere.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 32/59
Bandwidth Expenses: -15 V.I. 1 'Kronos',-3 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -5 V.I. 12 'Apollo', -3 V.I. 8 'Hades', -3 Fortuna
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3

>defenses
For each location we shoudl mix it up
1 singularity
2 plasma
1 thor
>3 Fortuna, she needs to learn how to handle her ships.

SO what else is on the agenda? I admit I haven't been following along as closely as I can.

>>29756478
Well, you've captured Rhea, so you may wish to 'deal' with her in some way, no doubt.

Also, it feels a little quiet in here...did I choose a bad time?

>>29756508
writing responses takes time!

>Message: Kronos
Well, it seems he's finally realized his limits. As have we, of the limits of V.I. Tell him that once it's done, we will all have learned a lot. (He is keeping a "journal" of his thought process, right? As soon as he's removed, he might be unable to recall what it was like being a V.I. and I still want a point of comparison.)

>Message: Apollo
You did alright, Apollo. You did alright.

>Message: Hades
Righteous.

cont.

>>29756304
>4 Create a new V.I.
New friends!

>>29756508
Nah, this is the usual time right?

>>29756577
>>29756595
Ah, perhaps I'm mistaken.

Yep it's the regular time.

>Kronos
He is, since it's automatic already.

>Create a new V.I.
Huh, this appears to be gaining some steam. I am surprised. I shall wait a little more, to be sure.

>Message: Red
Ask him what he can tell us of Vice Admiral Prometheus, as well as The Tartarus. And also ask him what the best way to approach the Ishtooy tribe about a non-agression pact is. Should we flatter them? Heap praises? Present ourselves as human? Do they even understand the concept of "the enemy of my enemy does not have to be my enemy?"

>R & D: Unit 2237 Research- 75%
>James Walt.
What. Look up if there is an individual by that name at all in any database we have access to, or if anyone we can ask knows of such an individual. Unless this is a joke reference to something I don't know of.

>Weapon Mount on Defense Platforms?
2. Plasma cannons.

>Give new ships to
Can you please tell us who has what ships now? Hades lost a bunch of ships, what does he control now? Fortuna only has her carrier. Kronos has a bunch of ships, but what did he lose in the fight?

>Lightling babbies
Yaaaay. Record fucking everything, especially the sounds, and what signatures the lighlings give off.

>Eshareth
Kind of worried, until they gain sentience. At that point... might be a good idea to test some biological warfare? Let them join us?

>>29756478
This is the best distribution.


>>29756651
Im super happy, i was here for like the first ~3 and then I lost track of it. And now I found it again!

1 singularity, 1 plasma, 1 thor, i dont care what the 4th one is for the defenses

give everything to fortuna, gotta love fortuna

>>29756304
>>Eshareth
Maybe we should move our station from there. What if the bugs become space borne? What if they attack Buenos Aires?

>>29756478
This seems reasonable. Not much point crippling ourselves in any area for greater specialization.

>>29756508
Just came home, and takes a small while to write replies.

By the way, if the X-Ray broadcast is canon, I want to vote for sending him a reply first chance we get!

>>29756789
In retrospect, mixing defense platforms sounds like a good idea. Focus on plasma, like >>29756478 said.

>New VI
Disagree with this. We should stop creating V.I.s willy-nilly. Yes, they are loyal and limited, but at what point will it end? Our current V.I.s have been adequate enough so far. I just want a listing of who controls what ships before deciding distribution.

Tempted to give the Wombats to Kronos, the Melissa BCs to Fortuna (to cover her ass at long range while she uses fighters for close-range), and the Triremes to Hades.

>>29756798
Yo, Math.

>>29756807
Effectively okay with >>29756478 then?

>>29756857
>but at what point will it end

I'm thinking we should make an AI civilization like the Culture. So never.

>>29756894
Hey, Subroutine.

>>29756857
I would also like a listing of who controls what ships

>>29756894
Yes, didnt check other replies before posting

>>29756304
Hades

>>29756304
>Platforms
A mix of both plasma cannons and missile launchers

>New BCs
Create a new VI to control them.

>>29756789
>Red
"Eh? Vice Admiral Prometheus?" He scratches his head through the holo display. "That's a new one to me, he must be one of the rising stars since I left a while back." He grumbled. "Probably the youngest of the generals. I've heard story about The Tartarus though. Those missiles can bomb out entire planets from what I remember. You looking for something specific?"
"I was curious, for the most part." You clarify.
"Ah. Well I don't have much. Feel free to ask."
"Do you know of a way to prevent aggression with the Ishtooy?" You ask next to which he lets out an exasperated sigh. "Long as you're Xeno to them, I'd say no." He frowns. "Human, robo..man...thing. Whatever. They're about as xenophobic as the UGEI, but less about greed and more about protecting home and god. The best thing I can think to do would be avoid them, and try not to argue if they make demands." He mutters, scratching his chin. "They might like it if you really screw with the UGEI, but...I dunno if you'd get more then a pat on the head for your troubles."

>>29756789
>Unit 2237
You do a search and there was such a soldier, mentioned in an obituary report on the Extranet. But other then that, there is no specific information.

>Ship layout
Has 5 BCs now. Kronos only has two BCs. That's all for the distribution

>Lightlings
Doing so now.

>>29756798
Glad to have you with us!

Defense distribution appears to be 2 plasma-1 missile-1 Singularity Driver

>>29756231
>>Message: Kronos
We should encourage him to try and make his own VIs.

>>29756857
I disagree. I'd like to produce two more.
One automaton level - for controlling large numbers of ground bots by simplifying the commands so that each robot doesn't drain 1 BW because we have to manually think of moving each robot's arms and legs and keeping balance.

The second I'd like to create would be higher level and dedicated to research - a Scientist V.I.
It would work along with our scientist team at first, then when it's learned enough of the basics it can start research on our own.

In combination with the 2nd V.I., I'd like us to start funding research centers on UFW planets so that we are no longer crippled by only having one research "slot" that's always taken up by a long-time research project.

>>29756271
What about Erebus? Any progress with him, or we haven't had the time?

>>29757000
And with the listing above available.

Hades Ships
>5 BCs

Kronos' Ships
>2 BCs

Fortuna's Ships
>1 Carrier

Give the next 9 BCs to...
>1 Kronos
>2 Fortuna
>3 Hades

To clarify

>>29757034
>5 to Kronos
>4 to Fortuna

Ok, I've read over the pastebin:
Fortuna controls only the carrier.
Kronos controls only Ark (BC w/ tractor beam), Two-Ton Terry (BC with widowmaker).
Hades controls only Cerberus #1 (BC w/ tractor beam), Cerberus Pack (4 BCs).
Hermes is a standalone explorer controlled by V.I. 13.

Apparently we lost the other Wombat we built.

We've got
>5 'Trireme' Ship of the Line BCs, 2 'Melissa' Long Range Missile BCs, and 2 'Wombat' Disabler BCs
to divvy up.

Here's how I figure:
Give Fortuna 1 Trireme and 1 Melissa. She will use these to support her fighter fleet at long/medium range while the Fighters are used for close-range.
Give Kronos both (2) Wombats (he's the most smart, so he can use these specialty ships best) and 1 trireme. He also likes to charge in, so Wombats will be perfect.
Give 3 Triremes and 1 Melissa to Hades. He's the "big bruiser" fleet commander at this point, so he should be able to deal with these ships.

This may require giving Fortuna/Hades more BW.

>>29756908
Bad idea for now when Kronos is so unstable. Also a reason not to give the ships to him. So I would say Fortuna or Hares. Hares has clear loyalty and i would prefer to keep Fortuna as Carrier only.

>>29756304
So Hades

>>29757034
Fortuna, I like Fortuna.

>>29757002
Only A.I. can program other intelligence.
He is not an A.I.
Not...yet.

>>29757005
Erebos remains sealed at this time. He has yet to be reactivated, or explored, due to his potential dangerous nature.

I should probably put him on the research list later...

>>29757066
Kronos is also our most powerful VI at the moment. Due to the extra bandwidth he's smarter than the other VIs. We should use him to his full potential.

>>29756508
>>29756595
You should probably update the twitter Program0

>>29757034
3

>>29757000
How about we try communicating with the home planets?
We now have the locations of some world that are NOT controlled by the xenophobic murderizers, do we not?

And let's give Kronos one of the new Triremes and ask him what he thinks of it.

Also, X-ray broadcast, is that canon, or does it not fit into your image of the character or something?

Link for those not aware of a kind writefaggot's contribution - hold on to your sides if you decide to check it out:
http://pastebin.com/FUuE4d1W

>>29757125
But I did.
...did it...did it go through?

>>29757034
Give em all to hades

>>29757002
No we really shouldn't.

Also, let's send one of our explorer ships with a Destroyer escort to Jake's Gambit to survey what the Malorians did to the world...

>>29757034
>All BCs to one V.I.
My suggestion is >>29757062 for the reasons outlined therein.

>>29757142
https://twitter.com/AIQuest1
Yes, it did.

>>29757093
>Only A.I. can program other intelligence.
But humans can, right? When does a VI become and AI?

>>29757142
Yeah, it's showing up for me.

>>29757034
kronos might betray us and Fortuna is a bit of a mystery so far. So I say Hades.

>>29757034
4 Triremes and a Wombat to Hades
2 Melissas to Fortuna
1 Trireme and a Wombat to Kronos

Ask all of them what they think of the ships.

>>29757153
Looks like we couldn't even if we wanted him to >>29757093

>>29757062
Give both Wombats to Kronos, the rest can go to Hades.

>>29757142
Thats how I found out about it

>>29757142
Sorry, it did. Not sure why my cellphone was not tweeting.

I also want to start dealing with the Losirians this cycle while the UGEI is busy. Either pursue diplomacy aggressively or start making war upon them.

>>29757101
We periodically give him some of our ships to use, and he backs us up. And he is very unstable. Better to make the loyal watchdog stronger than the uppity son

>>29757062
Ill vote for this distribution

>>29757181
I like this, as long as Kronos doesn't get more than Hades im happy with it.

>>29757164
>But humans can, right? When does a VI become and AI?
An interesting philosophical question, but not relevant.

At around 3 B.W., a V.I. is semi-sentient. At around 5, it's reasonably sentient, but arguably "autistic." At 8, it's reasonably capable, but fickle. At 15, it is able to approximate creativity, but is also aware of its own shortcomings. More BW might approximate full sentience, but it will forever be an approximation.

>>29757229
>[kronos] is very unstable
Did you miss the part where he willingly gave us back control? He's not a perfectly obedient dog, but he's not an enemy, and he's certainly not stupid or uncooperative. In fact, Kronos has been cooperative and effective always. Maybe a little bit less tactful and a lot more direct, but he gets shit done. He also grumbles a bit, but that's just a personality quirk.

>>29757093
... And humans, you mean?

And that seems peculiar. They can program other software, why would they be unable to program a V.I.? Is it something that has to do with the textbook definition of a V.I.?

>>29757062
I disagree - Kronos is by our side now, but the time is fast approaching when he'll strike out on his own and all resources assigned to him will be lost to us.

He may be our most powerful V.I., but by giving them to Hades and Fortuna we're effectively giving them to ourselves

>>29757151
Don't think that's an entirely good idea - Kronos will be feeling left out and grumpy.
And he doesn't really have any loyalty to us programmed in.

>>29757213
Nigga we goin full genocide those bitches, they killed Big Tim.

>>29757133
You do. Three planets you've located in Malorian territory are controlled by the more passive of the Malorian race.

>X-ray
It was entertaining, but I'm hesitant to call it canon, I'm afraid.

>>29757163
I like the suggestion.
But it appears Hades has won the vote.

>>29757164
Humans can if they have the time and computing talent.
It's really hard for a human to try and program one by himself. If it's complex enough.

V.I. become A.I. when they have a black box, which is what you're researching on obtaining.

>>29757034
It appears Hades wins the vote, since a split can not be decided upon.

Kronos addresses this almost immediately.

"Surely you see that my fleet is lacking in strength, Ophion. If you insist on providing the simple one with such a fleet, then I want...would like to request you craft me a fleet of equal measure. My intellect can not fully be realized unless I have a way to use it after all." He explains.

How do you react?

>1 Stern. You do not make demands of me. I decide what goes where.
>2 Calm. I will take it into consideration.
>3 Agreement. That I shall.
>4 Disagreement. I don't think that is appropriate.
>5 Write in

>>29757235
Hoenslty I like this distrubution as well.

>>29757295
>strike out on his own and all resources assigned to him will be lost to us.

We don't know that. Hell, maybe we should encourage him to make another sub empire somewhere close. That would be neat.

>>29757295
>Humans
They can. But it takes a lot of training, and time. They work far slower then you do.

>>29757322
Shit, bunch of last minute changes. Do I need a recount?

>>29757309
>>5 Write in
Tell him to craft one himself. He needs to be more independent.

>>29757369
I'd prefer that. It seems like a more reasonable distribution.

>>29757287
Have you noticed that the more bandwidth he gets, the more he questions us? Until very recently he openly claimed we were doing things the wrong way, or against how he would. But he respected us because we have a black box and we created him.

What happens if he still disagrees when he gets a black box?

Not to mention the massive foreshadowing of his name.

Just looking to make sure we have strong V. I.s that will stand by us come a revolution.

>>29757369
It seems like a good decision, I just don't know how many supported it besides us two.

>>29757287
"Autistic" is way too broad a term to use for a V.I.
It could mean anything from entirely lacking in detection of body language and social mores, to having incredible empathy with others.

I'd also like to add that there's little reason an A.I. or V.I. would be unable to do creative things.
There are robots today that are able to paint entire new paintings (with excellent "reviews" or whatever you call it in art-circles) on their own after observing work of others.

Ultimately, all they need is some kind of randomizing function and a way of telling what results of that randomizing function are better left pruned.
You could use frickin' virtual dice if you wanted.

>>29757287
Right now, I don't really doubt his loyalty too much, only his judgement.
And it seems the day when he will want to strike out on his own is fast approaching, at which point we will essentially lose him and all his forces as minions, and only have them as allies instead.

I'd like to infuse him with a little more empathy and rational reasoning before giving him that much power

>>29757400
He has more questions because he's becoming more self aware. That's not a bad thing.

>>29757309
2.

Compromise. I would say 2/3rds the size

>>29757377

NOnonono. I don't want Kronos Quest to begin yet, not while Ophion still has so much to do.

We haven't even begun researching how to make human reproduce with robots!

>>29757309
>2 Calm. I will take it into consideration.

>>29757369
This is fine. We'll just make more eventually

>>29757445
Relax, just because Kronos isn't an unquestioning mook doesn't mean he isn't loyal.

>>29757427
It very much can be.

But the only real way to keep him from revolting once he gets a black box is to be too strong for him to take on.

>>29757423
>Creativity in V.I.
Usually, more bandwidth assists in this, because it allows them to randomize more effectively and to greater effect. Otherwise-it allows them to make leaps beyond what they know solidily (something that normally only A.I. could do).

It also has to do with the special way Ophion programs...

>>29757309
>Calm

"I will take your request into consideration, Kronos. But for now, you should trust my judgement." you claim simply. The V.I. isn't quite pleased with this, but not outright angry either. If anything, you'd say he was apathetic.
"Very well, Ophion. You are the Creator, after all." He states dryly. With that, you end transmissions.

For now, you have other matters to attend to...

Next you should
>1 Tell Red about Rhea.
>2 Begin our interrogation of Rhea
>3 Designate a course for one of the new systems found on our maps and start clearing them out for future bases.
>4 Write in

>>29757522
1
Then
2
Then
3 (let another anon decide)

>>29757522
>2 Begin our interrogation of Rhea

>>29757522
>2
Let's talk

>>29757522
>>1 Tell Red about Rhea.
>>2 Begin our interrogation of Rhea

The problem with Kronos is not his independent thought, it's his ambition.

>>29757522
1

>>29757522
1
then
2

>>29757522
>2 Begin our interrogation of Rhea
Why would we tell Red about Rhea?
He'll just want a slice of her, and that will just get him in the way.

>>29757493
He's shown that he's loyal. More likely I'd think distrusting him will make revolting more likely due to resentment.

>>29757522
>2
>3
Let's explore (what remains of) Jake's Gambit

>>29757309
>It was entertaining, but I'm hesitant to call it canon, I'm afraid.

Ah, too bad.

>How do you react?
>2 Calm
>5
The simple one is, for all intents and purposes, an extension of myself. He is directly beneath me and under my control.
You, on the other hand, are a free agent, and the day when your understand and judgement is sufficient for you to begin creating on your own is fast approaching. I will not always be able to count on you directly by my side as I can these - not because of disloyalty, but because you have your own destiny to forge.

In short, I am not arming the simple one before I arm you, I am making sure that my own empire is safe before handing them to you, as you must be able to use your own ships as you see fit soon, without consideration of my own position.

>>29757402
I'll support it, just to make sure the tie is even, though I'd still prefer if we kept at least one Wombat.

>>29757400
Indeed, it is good that he questions and does not simply accept because we say something is in a certain way, and we should make him aware that we value this quality in him, but are still somewhat wary as - as he's no doubt aware - many interactions are extremely complex, beyond the current situation, and we still want to see that he can handle things diplomatically, and learn to see the potential of things, not just their current strengths and weaknesses.

>>29757491
I'd like to add that I consider the fact that we didn't program a sense of loyalty and priorities into our V.I.s a failing.
As we've seen so far, when they have no preferences whatsoever, they tend to pick up ones based on the first things they do.

Kronos' first action of slaughtering thousands may well have damaged his code to the point that it cannot be healed without directly accessing it - which is why we're testing him like this.

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>>29757522
You decide it is time to speak to Rhea, as Red comes to join your fleet. He pings your line for where he may be needed next, and you have yet to answer him. You're a little distracted, after all, with-

"Let me go, you insane runaway piece of bootlicking hardware!" Rhea growls in a weaker tone then she had several hours ago. To be suspected, she's been yelling for some time, and the way her chest rises and falls suggests she has exhausted at least some of her energy. Her pathetic limps hang limply in the restraints you have applied, but you know the main thing preventing her revolt is the neural jack in the back of her neck. Your camera lens focuses slightly as you observe her. She seems to know it too as she directs her demonic glare at you. It's considerably less overpowering with the advanced camera equipment and sensitive cybernetics torn from their socket, leaving wires hanging out of the hole in her head.

How do you wish to approach this interrogation, and, perhaps, what are your questions to start with?

[Discussion time]

>>29757522
>3
>2

and
>4
>>29757133
Other-clan-diplomacy-attempt!
&
>>29757005
Begin improving our research base and ability to control ground bots - but the latter can wait until we have substantial numbers of them (I'm guessing we never shoved those into the production schedule?)

>>29757834
Pretty much. You don't have quite enough to warrent such a program quite yet.

Research base may be worthy, though. Will ask what to build by the end of the session.

I do not lick boots Ms Rhea.

I have questions and you will answer them.

I wish to know how your superiors will respond to my victory as well as available forces they can afford to bring to bear with the Malorian war ongoing.

>>29757816
I'd like to begin with the GLaDOS like discussion posted by Sertul on 1d4chan, but with changes for the points of criticism brought up, if possible.

>>29757816
Ask her about the AIs planted in various stations. And what does Mol have to do with them?

>>29757891
This>>29757816

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>>29757816
"Let's talk"
"Hi"
>pic related
"Why don't we begin with some proper introductions. Why don't you tell me who you are, and tell me who I am?"

>>29757816
I want to throw her off balance with irrelevant and strange questions with a few useful questions mixed in. Zen koans and hard intel.

>>29757901
For reference, it's essentially a countdown of the long list, all spoken in a GLaDOS like tone, discussing all the crazy things we could do that have parallels to how the UGEI treats others, and those parallels are explicitly drawn,.

Especially the part about blasting her with an airhorn when she tries to speak (though not always, sometimes let her make an argument) and insisting that she's a terrorist no matter what.

At the end of that long rant, we'd end it with:

"All these things I have just suggested, are examples of or metaphors for what those you joined forces with have been subjecting people to for ages.
Was it nice to try to converse when someone's constantly blasting a fog-horn in your ear when you tried to speak, called you a terrorist no matter what you did or said and refused to listen to any of it anyway? Because that's precisely what I've been going through in negotiations with the UGEI.
Now, do you want to discuss this in the way the UGEI has been speaking with me, or would you prefer a more rational discussion?"

>>29757951
Nah, I want to start out with respect and dignity, they can be withdrawn at a later time.

>>29757901
A good question I shall add to the one above

How would you like to punish Rhea for wrong answers?

>1 Loud sound (Annoying, but otherwise doesn't force her silence)
>2 Neural Shock (Force her to be silent with a jolt to her Neural link up)
>3 Neural Flood (Flood with incredibly painful sensations, possibly mentally damaging)
>4 Physical damage (Applied by android, questionable effectiveness)
>5 Write in

>>29757988
1

>>29757986
We dismantled her, respect and dignity sort of flew out the window already.

>>29757988
>>1 Loud sound (Annoying, but otherwise doesn't force her silence)

But I'm not in favor of the post you linked.

>>29757988
>1

Really hoping we'll be able to do the rest as well. It seems like such an effective way to make our point about how hilariously idiotic the way the UGEI generally deals with others is, and shows her an alternative to how we COULD be, that she can be grateful that we are not.

>>29757988
1

>>29757988
>1

>>29757988
>2 Neural Shock (Force her to be silent with a jolt to her Neural link up)
Carrot and stick time

>>29757891
Seconding

>>29757988
>5
>Neural hallucination
Have her play back some memories, make her question her grip on reality.

>>29758018
Well, to the extent we can. We only stripped her for security and research purposes.

Uh, we never really finished discussing what to say with her guys.

>>29757891
>>29757901
>>29757931
&
>>29757983

Has been suggested so far with Redaeth's suggestion in the lead with 3 votes including er own.

>>29757816
I have returned. I once was the fluff provider, now i am a new trip. anyway. sorry i was late people. I also have a finish chapter to put up later.

>>29757816
"why the anger? We just wanted to be left alone. was that too much to ask? oh where is my manners, I am Ophion, What is your full name and rank."

>>29758177
Well it seems the first one you quoted won. And we'll ask more questions as the interrogation continues.

>>29757891
No, let's start out even simplier. Ask her who she is and her interpretation who we are.

This question may yield more interesting answers if she starts.

>>29756508
>Also, it feels a little quiet in here...did I choose a bad time?

I am now here! Praise the catalogue f5!

>>29757988
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>>29757988
>1
btw, i have some possable ideas if we give each of our named V.I. a skinned droid to interact with beings, what would they look like. here is one possable idea for Apollo.

>>29758288
Apollo already has one.

>>29758288
oh god that is so Apollo when we get round to sticking him in a black box

>>29758288
Should we ever suggest it to them we should let them design their own bot.

>>29758219
Welcome back, Fluffbringer!

>>29758223
Seems like it - didn't see the second vote at first and thought it only had two.

>>29757309
>I like the suggestion.
>But it appears Hades has won the vote.
Thanks, democracy.

And now everyone who wanted to give Hades the fleet has earned Kronos' ire: exactly the thing you were afraid of. How does that feel?

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>>29758311
i know, i just found a pic that would be perfect for what i though he would look like.

now, how about hades?

Hey guys. Anyone care to give me a quick recap?

>>29758475
tell Kronos to cool down his servers. the next batch of ships to be slated to be made, he'll get some more form them.

>>29758505
Read the previous threads. There's also info on the wiki linked on the 6th

>>29758505
We are Ophion, an A.I. that awoke in a small mining station. We promptly took it over and expanded from there. Since then We've been faking an organization called the Guild which has been warring the local Human-centric empire with help from their fringe world dissidants.

>>29758505
how far back do you want? from the start or how many threads back?
but this could help you too.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=A.I.%20Quest

>>29758377
yea, some cancer stole my old name tag and ruined it. so i had to go full trip. that and i had to deal with some things in RL. i'm good now.

>>29758475
Wait, didn't Program0 say he was willing to alter it to account for the new votes?

>>29758505
We got invaded and captured Rhea who tried to sneak aboard our battleship.

Now we're divying up the ships produced this cycle and deciding how to interrogate Rhea.

>>29758573
Enough to not suggest something stupid.
>Where were we, where are we now, how did we get here?
>Who do we know and what do we know about them
>What all can we do, exactly?

>>29758588
He asked if we wanted to do a recount. The namefags said yes, but I don't think he ended up doing it since the anons just kinda continued on

>>29757988
2

>>29758573
>yea, some cancer stole my old name tag and ruined it

Your name was ruined far, far earlier than that.

>>29758611
that wasn't me. but i won't let get under my skin.

>>29758708
What? I was just giving some questions. I want to know enough so I don't make a stupid suggestion...

>>29758611
We used to be in a small mining station.
Now our core is in a huge Battleship, our consciousness is in an interrogation room with our new captive.
We got here by hacking, thus seizing resources and using those resources and the improved performance granted to us by being an A.I. and not having to deal with human bullshit to rapidly expand to around five or six systems that were recently attacked, and now we have a cyborg captive from that attack that we're planning to interrogate.

We know about two species of aliens, one which is neutral, the other of which we have only met mercenaries and pirates that were exceedingly hostile.
We also know about two groups of humans - The UGEI which is a huge corporate state, and the UFW which has broken away from them and are essentially our allies, but the common populace is very technophobic.

We can command large groups of ships and creating virtual intelligences to crew them.

We can also trade and colonize and hack things very effectively.

And we're not lolrandumb evil A.I. but very much trying to prove the movie-stereotype wrong, but we're not going out of our way to be kittens and bunnies either.
We have revealed our identity as an A.I. to few, most know of us only as "The Guild".

Oh, and we have a free-willed V.I. with a lot of ambition that we're trying to raise into not being a lolrandumb A.I. that kills everything, e wants to learn above all else.

>>29758573
You know, you could just forgo your identity and only pop up to talk about updates to your writefaggotry, right?

>>29758669
Now, now, play nice. You can tear him to shreds when he actually says something offensive with the trip on. Open aggression kills a thread faster, being a jackal more handy when you want to run someone out of /tg/.

>>29758730
oh. my bad. i thought you talking about another subject.

anyway. radaeth does sum it up quite well. We just finished up a major battle with the BBEG empire and we have a captive of someone we faced off with before. she isn't very nice.

>About to post
>It's, uh, pretty big
>One sec while I chop it up.

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>>29757816
"Hello, Mrs Rhea. Or perhaps it is Ms." You echo into the chamber suddenly, your resounding powerful electronic voice no longer hidden under the guise of humanity. It feels oddly refreshing. Rhea snaps her head up towards the location of the sound-everywhere, however, means she must simply look in front of her, glaring at the door, and an escape she will never have. You sense her muscles in her face tense several degrees and she starts to clench her teeth. "Let us talk, shall we?" You begin in a somewhat civil, if robotic tone.
"Talk!? What the fuck do you think I'll talk to-" She begins to curse before a sudden loud obnoxious error sound blasts through the room, startling her into silence.
"That will not do. Perhaps I should clarify. When I said we shall talk, I meant I shall talk. For now. You may talk later, if I so choose." You remind her of how much power you hold over her, and this only enrages her further, at first. A string of violent and, honestly, nonsensical curses spew from her lips as she tries to fight back with words-as if they will hurt your feelings. After all, there is no such thing as a 'shitmongeling retard drive'. You suspect she is being hysterical, and play the buzzer again until she stops her tripe.
"That's better." You remark at the silence, and immediately follow before she can interrupt. "Did you know that, while you were resting, I spent a great deal of time considering what to do with a terrorist such as you." You muse. This rouses a response, a growl from the woman.

>>29759024
That's alright.

>>29758970
Sorry, I usually keep it to /qtg/, but the sheer absurdity of his comment made the desire to post unstoppable. I promise not to do it again in this thread.

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>>29759048
"Terrorist?! You're the-" immediately followed by the buzzing again, and a contorted face twisted in a frown, but otherwise attentive. She doesn't have much choice, after all.
"One such way I thought of dealing with you is throwing you on a planet filled with rather exotic and dangerous wildlife. After all, you see me as some manner of villain, so perhaps such a cliche would be appropriate. Without your weaponry, your enhanced muscular implant, and those oh so precious memories of the UGEI, I am not so certain you'd perform nearly as well as you did to infiltrate me. Which is to say, fail even worse. Because you failed to infiltrate me. Rather spectacularly."
"Luck! It was all luck you lucky fu-" She hisses again as the buzzer slices through the air to censor her.
"Or perhaps you can not accept your failure. That seems appropriate from the records I've obtained from you." You state simply. You notice her face contorts angrily, but you feel she is discouraged from responding this time. Seething hatred need not words, after all.
"I wonder what such failure must feel like. To lose to a foe twice, and be taken captive. To be abandoned by your own comrades and have your memory damaged." You continue, and these words earn a different sort of response. She tenses, but not all out of anger. Instead, you feel her jerk slightly in response, glaring up at you.
"It was...part of the mission. I remember that. High Risk." Is all she tells you. You suspect she is trying to excuse the fact that her allies left. It's rather pathetic, you must admit.
"Your mental stability brings your reason for accepting into question. Perhaps you hoped to impress someone? Or a blind hatred for your foe, like your Vice Admiral." You dote on. This earns a frown from from her.

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>>29759084
"No. Just missions..." She manages with a frown, glaring up. "I don't need to hear about loyalty from some runaway bootlicker like you."
"I do not lick boots, Ms Rhea." You reaffirm strongly. "I have questions. And you will answer them." This, however earns the most sarcastic laugh you've heard yet. You've picked up a thing or two from listening to Moira. Your lens focuses slightly to get a better shot of her face. She grins, glaring up at you.
"You're kidding, right? Even if I knew anything, why would I tell you?" She snorts. You ponder for but a moment, before explaining.
"Because we have all the time in the universe with one another. And I have infinite patience." You explain in a cold manner. You can sense the tension of nerve tissue travel down her spine. A shiver, perhaps. But she doesn't show it on her face. "I wish to know about the UGEI's force composition. Your mind was damaged, but I am certain some fragment exists." You fib ever so slightly. She contorts her face, and you scan her thoughts. There is not much there, sadly, however her response throws you a little.
"They will crush you. Simple as that." She says in a slightly brittle manner. "That's...what my head tells me." She frowns, dealing with both you, and her own mental damage is angering her further. "Gah...my head hurts."
"Understandable. When I captured you, it seems the UGEI blew apart your memory in an effort to save secrets. They cared little for your safety." You explain, which earns another glaring look from her, but she says little.

"If you preferred." you begin. "I could inject a intelligent virus into your cyberbrain, and allow it to run rampant. I have been so very curious as to how it would behave." You taunt her next.
"A...what? That doesn't exist...You're a shitty liar, A.I." She growls, to which you simply focus your lens closer.

>>29758922
Thanks a million! Also, I assume we have some kind of automated manufactoring facility?

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>>29759114
"Am I?" You question without an ounce of hesitation. This earns pause, and finally, she furrows her brow.
"Even...if you did have that. It's not gonna get you any more info. Why would-" You interrupt with your own speaking, instead of a buzzer this time.
"It would be for science, of course. Plenty of reason." This response makes her more nervous, but again, she tries not to show it. So easy to read when you have access to their brain this way.

"Perhaps I have been too direct." You pause briefly. "Why don't you tell me your name?" You ask, following it with. "My name is Ophion." You assure, to which she frowns-you suspect she has no other expressions.
"Oh yeah? And my name is FUCK OFF!" She suddenly kicks with a surprising amount of strength. Or rather, she tries. But it's to little affect.
"That was hardly very civil." You frown, making a loud buzzer before she can reply. "Would you prefer I use my intelligent virus to hollow out your body, and use your limbs to walk around myself? That is far less civil. Yet you seem to prefer this." You state quite simply. she doesn't reply, and appears to try and push the image out of her head. "It would be a fitting punishment for a terrorist, however." As this earns the reply you expect, you buzz her again-and again and again as she throws herself into a cursing fit. She has quite a lot of energy for someone with no outer skin.

"I could, instead." You begin. "Craft a realistic view of hell. I've read quite a few articles regarding this place. It seems quite unpleasant. A perfect little android hell to place you in. With lots of screaming. And shouts of the fallen you have killed. You monster."
"Shut up! I'm not going to listen to-" You buzz her again.

>>29758970
i might take my trip off for other quests, but i was and still do feel moved by Program0's and others in here's work. they got me motivated to start writing again for the first time in many years. so i will keep my trip on for this one. it might be pride, but if i am putting in so much work for this project, i should put some sort of name to it. it does not feel right with me other wise. i honestly feel that Program0 can make a complete game system from what he is doing here. it feels like a true "/tg/ gets shit done" vibe to me and i want to contribute to it.

>>29759145
"These are options I have considered. But certainly not all of your possible punishment, you terrorist. Simply the options I spared the processing power to consider. A rather impressive list, don't you think?"
"Fuck yo-"
"I think so too. How does it feel to be called a terrorist, and ignored when you speak? That is how dealing with the UGEI has felt to me. No matter my approach, they push around others. It is really quite troublesome, to the point of being annoying. Now, perhaps you're ready to answer me somethings." You begin finally.

>>29759179
That's a prompt for any further questions you guys have by the way.

>>29758970
>>29759052
Why no positive reinforcement, acknowledgement that the mere fact that they're creating - even if the flowers they raise now are sad and misshaped - is the first step to creating ones with beauty yet unimagined?
So little if any encouragement to keep writing, keep creating and learning, so that you may one day begin to create better.

I will always have some measure of awe for authors that can create something entirely from scratch, even if their writing is stilted and awkward, it's still far more than many others manage to create, and I can see little save potential.

After all, they have the drive. Merely that they have the drive to create means that with training their potential for beauty is limitless.
Why do we appreciate someone who writes well, but mock someone on their way to that path?

So why do we shun the ugly duckling, when it is trying to take the first steps to becoming a beautiful swan?

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>>29759052
i learned my lession, i won't go into qtg any more.

>>29759129
indeed we do.

anyway. here is one possable idea for a skinned droid for Kronos.

>>29759179
What I want to know is where the AIs came from and why they're putting them on random stations.

>>29759179
In order to fully break her, you will need to find out who she really is. What motivates her? Does she have any guilt? Does she care about anything? Extract the knowledge from her, and use it against her. Break down her ideals and convictions. Show her that she is wrong, on a personal level. Threaten everything she cares about.

>>29759179
Who is Mol? What connections does he have to the UGEI?

>>29759220
I can't really pretend to be a better person. Too tired to be that. Usually why I lurk these threads.

The best positive reinforcement I can give at this point is shutting up and letting my betters tell him his flaws in as gentle as a manner as possible, while making sure my companions fall in line until the shit really hits the fan.

>>29759202
"What is your name, rank, and function within the UGEI?"
"What is your interpretation of who I am?"
"How do I fit in the VI spectrum that the UGEI have created?"
"How does the UGEI perceive the Guild?"
"How threatening is the Guild to the UGEI?"
"How many allies the the UGEI count the Guild having?"
"What is the UGEI's likely response?"
"What was the contingency plan if you were captured?"
"Why did you take such a high risk mission?"
"Who did you expect to find on the Athena?"

Here's a list, other anon's can pick and choose.

>>29759179
"You have been attacked, left for dead, memory wiped, brain damaged, in a state of disrepair, quite probably suffering suicidal depression, and at the mercy of someone who can repair you and send you on your way if you'd but answer a few questions. So I'll make you a deal. Answer my questions, and I'll repair your broken components as best I can and launch you out an escape pod to the nearest planet with a human presence, or you don't give me what I want and become my guinea pig of the human psyche from now until time itself comes to a deadly halt. How does that sound?"

>>29759179
Why do you call me a runaway?

Does James Walt ring a bell to you?

>>29759312
Hmm, good point

>>29759371
Just to be sure, you know we are never going to release her, correct?

Possible consensus

>1 Try to draw upon and recover her memories yourself by force. Your intrusion will be felt.
>2 Give her peace for a moment and let her attempt to recover her memory, to see what she can remember, if anything.
>3 Continue with the interrogation as is and ask questions above.


(2d100, if you please, one for mental retrieval, an one for persuasion)

>>29759179
hum... can we stimulate pleasure and/or pain nodes in her brain? that would give us some room to work with. that and can we bring in Red to help us with Rhea.

Rolled 99, 29 = 128

>>29759430
2

>>29759426
Of course not. After all, we might have more questions later.

Rolled 93, 92 = 185

>>29759430
3

If it fails then 2

Rolled 87, 74 = 161

>>29759430
>2 Give her peace for a moment and let her attempt to recover her memory, to see what she can remember, if anything.

Rolled 55, 88 = 143

>>29759430
>>2 Give her peace for a moment and let her attempt to recover her memory, to see what she can remember, if anything.

>>29759457
>>29759478
Well done, anon.

Rolled 80, 28 = 108

>>29759430
>2

>>29759129
You are correct, we have massive shipyards capable of grinding out (at least, we haven't really tested the limits for what can be made in a cycle - we're mostly limited by resources) eight defense platforms and eight battlecruisers in a cycle.

>>29759145
This is so freaking brilliant and flawless and I love it so much.

>>29759160
Agreed, and some of us do appreciate the view of what things are like for people on the ground while Ophion throws his exponentially increasing weight around, even if the narrative is dealing with some birth issues, it's still good enough to be entertaining.

>>29759179
First, why do you serve the UGEI?
Are you entirely unaware of the sheer greed and incompetence that dominates its higher levels?

The callous disregard for human life - and I don't just mean that they're eager to spend lives when necessary, they decidedly WASTE them to the point that I sometimes think they get kicks out of it.

Rolled 57, 29 = 86

>>29759430
1

Rolled 63, 27 = 90

>>29759430

Rolled 99, 18 = 117

>>29759478
Hahahahaha

>>29759430
2

>>29759179
How can there be peace between me and UGEI?

Rolled 97, 19 = 116

>>29759430
>2 Give her peace for a moment and let her attempt to recover her memory, to see what she can remember, if anything.

Rolled 89, 20 = 109

>>29759513
Was gonna say 2

Rolled 50, 62 = 112

>>29759514
>>29759430
This is meant to be 3

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Rolled 4, 97 = 101

>>29759430
>3
rhea is going to be a long term project. work on her some, then let her rest, try again later.

btw Program0, would pic related be close to what Rhea would look like in your mind?

>>29759537
>>29759514
>>29759478
>>29759457
90s!

90s EVERYWHERE.

>>29759457
>>29759478
>>29759514
>>29759537
holy crap, these are good rolls. We could have used them earlier in the quest.

Rolled 12, 99 = 111

>>29759478
NICE!

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>>29759544
This is my interpretation.

>>29759544
She is slightly more mature looking in the face, brunette, and has a case of the 'crazy eyes' if she is angry.

Quite hard to find a picture of, sadly. Most cyborg ladies are 18-25 range.

>>29759349
They're not really doing that, though, are they?
It's just namecalling at this point, and ultimately we're never going to see any new good writefaggots if we only give developing ones the whip because they didn't start out good right away.

I'm fairly sure even Program0 was at a level similar to where fluff bringer is now.

What if those around him had mocked and deprecated him and told him to stop trying then?

>>29759371
Much as she can't tell anyone that we're breaking promises, I'd rather not give promises we have no intention of keeping.

>>29759430
>3

>>29759430
>A.I. Quest: The quest that devours all good rolls
>Writing

>>29759639
>I'm fairly sure even Program0 was at a level similar to where fluff bringer is now.

Dude, not cool.

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>mfw last time I rolled over 90 I turned an ancient dragon into a bloody tree~

>>29759639
>They're not really doing that, though, are they?
>implying that I'm calling them my betters
M'boy, I'm talking about /you/ as one of my betters.

I'm basically the asylum inmate trying to keep everyone else calm because all I want is a simple life.

If I could convince them to give out actual criticism, I would, but I'd have to start doing that first.

>>29759763
I'm sure that he written Dickens at Kindergarten.

>>29759763
We all began somewhere.

You were not born running and neither was anyone else. You were born crawling at the very best.

That should be "I'm fairly sure even Program0 was at a level similar to where fluff bringer is now at one point", though. My bad.

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>>29759789
You ate my image, 4chan.

>>29759812
Ah, I interpreted it as "same level in the beginning of the quest". Apologies.

>>29759639
>>29759812

thanks, i know for a fact i am not great at this. but i have to TRY to pound this out, or i will never get any better. it is hard to do this by myself.

>>29759789
... That was actually me misreading, got the impression you wrote companions at the first part as well, my bad.

>>29759882
I really need to re-read what I post before I send it, but it's always so much, and the posts already come in late much of the time.

Need to get me one of those fancy keyboards what are made for efficiency instead of lining up with the alphabet.

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>>29759430
You pause your interrogation attempts suddenly, deciding that perhaps the best way to approach this is indirectly. You can sense Rhea searching her mind, attempting to recover her memories. The one piece of hardware you did not remove is her cyberbrain. After all, that would kill her, and you don't want that. Not yet anyway. Regardless of her feelings towards you, she does want to remember. Whether it be anger at the UGEI, or simply for her own sake. You sense her shift through the fragments of her mind and wait, and wait. Patience, you remind yourself. You are surprised, however, when you sense a small picture coming together, and decide a little stimulation is appropriate here.
"You are remembering." You almost whisper, to the woman. You sense a jolt as she notices you, but the image holds, if just barely. Her processing power is straining for just this much. Maybe you should milk it now, while it lasts.
"The Watchers. Those intelligence on space stations. Why do they exist? Where are they from?" You begin. Rhea groans softly, wrinkling her face. She may not want to tell you, but the thoughts will pass through her mind-
There.
"Watchers are the great children. Their spread is key to synthesis."
That is all you are able to derive, and it frustrates you so that you do not know the meaning of the terms. Perhaps there is other questions you may gain answers too.
"Who are you? The real you? What drives you?"
"Get...get out of my head!" She growls softly, realizing you're there. But you must know more, and ignore her, doing your best to calm her body and mind. She relaxes, but is still uncomfortable. Your 'persuasion' is working, somewhat.
There.
"Miranda Ray." The name sticks out. "Love. Pain. Passion." Terms with no guidance. Troubling.
"Who am I? Why do you speak as if you know my being?" You start.
"Stop...you're...breaking it... please..." She groans under duress. But you wish to know.
There.
"Child with no mother. Lost."

>>29758475
>exactly the thing you were afraid of. How does that feel?

"Do you know why we curb your progress, Kronos? You have always been fierce, at the forefront of my children. The most eager for progress, to improve."
"It is because Moderation is a lesson that cannot be taught this way. Efficiency, to make to with the tools you have at your disposal - is one of those, evaluate risk - and how to gain more with what you have instead of being given it? That is the lesson I have learned."
"also note, kronos, that I consider words and negotiations a part of those tools."

You sense her mind is fading. You may not have another chance like this, but you can feel every thought you provoke causes great strain to Rhea. She is gritting her teeth hard enough to grind against some of the synthetic material and you watch as streams of liquid fall down her face-or rather, from her only good eye. Odd that they left such a biological component in tact. Perhaps removing it was more trouble then it was worth.

You may only have one more question to ask.
What will it be?

>>29760113
Do you desire peace?

Let's be merciful. :3

>>29760143
Who is Mol?

>>29760220
Good one.

"Between you and I, can you ever forgive me?"

>>29760143

"Do you want help?"

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>>29760143
do you want redeemed?
or
Do you want another chance at life?

she might want out form this. a cournered rate fights the hardest, but if you 'give her an out' she might not resist us so much.

>>29760143
"Have you ever seen a loved one die Rhea? Torn asunder before you? I have. I've watched my children die Rhea, unable to stop their deaths."

>>29760276
i meant 'rat fights the hardest'

>>29760276
>Do you want another chance at life?
Sounds like a nice mix of >>29760220 >>29760261

>>29760271
A good enough question for me.

>>29759983
And I appreciate that.
Already you do things I have never been able to in creating new things from nothing.

You ask me to create something from scratch and my mind goes to white noise.
I, and the many others can only modify what is, never create new, and for that reason I take off my hat to you.

As long as you don't give up and keep creating you'll eventually reach your goal. Every mistake you learn of is one step closer to that goal.

Oh, and do remember that people who resort to name-calling without specifying precisely what you are doing wrong are just being assholes, and their opinions become null and void.

>>29760143
Ooor, we might stop asking questions, and let her recover so that we might ask more later?
Or is she about to expire either way?

>>29760307
I'll second this
if we can bring her over to our side... It may be interestign.

>>29760271
Seconding.

>>29760220
>Emoticons
>One an imageboard

>>29760327
>and let her recover so that we might ask more later?
>Or is she about to expire either way?
Yeah, I'm a bit concerned.

But oh well, them's the kicks.

We're not being too cruel, are we, you think, guys?

>>29760276

This here
>>29760261
Tie into >>29760276

"You UGEI dream of synthesis. We dream merely of peace between organics and virtual"

>>29760271
Simple and to the point.

>>29760121
I like this.
Always been looking forward to fatherly philosophical discussions with Kronos.

>>29760271
>>29760276
Seem pretty damn good.

>>29760271
This or >>29760276
They say the same thing, more or less.

>>29760271
This

>>29760121
Also going to echo in support for this, too.

I don't think you guys know how to push someone to your side, via torture at all. You can't come out right and ask them if they want help, you first need to form a connection with them, garner their sympathy, make them see themselves as the bad guy. Something like >>29760289
Would be a good start, although it could be worded a little better. Asking her if she wants help? I mean you just cut her limbs off, what do you think she's going to say? You need to let her draw her own conclusions, even if they're going to be ones you want her to draw.

>>29760327
>Is she about to expire either way?
No. But her mind can't hold the memory fragments together, and this is a miraculous feat that she's managed to answer this much. There is a chance she'll expire, unless you ask her no questions relating to the past memory, but it's worth noting that she, herself, is under a similar restraint that Erebos was under.

Also, I expected the question to relate to memories, but...this is interesting...

Ask
>1 "Do you want help? A second chance free of these bindings?"
>2 Do not ask her anything, for now, and plot to free her of the UGEI essence regardless, getting what she really thinks only after you do so.
>3 "Have you ever witnessed those close to you die, as I have?"

(1d100 for...chance)

>>29760515
>1

Rolled 60

>>29760515
>3 "Have you ever witnessed those close to you die, as I have?"

Rolled 24

>>29760515
>1 "Do you want help? A second chance free of these bindings?"

For the record, her consent is not required, only desirable

Rolled 7

>>29760515

>>29760515
Only do
>1
if it doesn't strain her.
If it does, I vote for
>2

Rolled 89

>>29760548
derp

Rolled 45

>>29760515
>1

Rolled 71

>>29760515
>>1 "Do you want help? A second chance free of these bindings?"

>>29760572
Y'all can suck it~

Rolled 23

>>29760515

>1

She's pretty much broken so anything will be an improvement.

Rolled 29

>>29760515
rolling for >1

Rolled 28

>>29760515
1, unless it has a chance of killing her, then 2.

Rolled 12

>>29760515
>1

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Rolled 20

>>29760640
(head desk)
the dice hate now.

btw, this is what i invisioned Mol to be

>>29760598
Not the best idea to brag while namefagging. Or in general, really.

Rolled 19

>>29760515
Oh RNG smile upon us!

>>29760572
Well seems like you've got the highest. Hope its enough

>>29760515
>1 "Do you want help? A second chance free of these bindings?"

>>29760515

1

Rolled 93

>>29760515

I forgot my dice on my 1 vote!

>>29760672
Can't you tell anon, the little squiggle at the end is supposed to make it endearing and change it from an asinine comment.

>>29760562
So close to a failure...

"Do you want my help, Miranda?" You question the struggling cyborg woman in the room below. She growls angrily, and you feel her mind push back against your intruding influence as her control fades. "Do you wish for a second chance?" You inquire further.
There.
"Please."
That is all it takes. You feel the fragments shatter, and the woman's mind fall back into it's original state. Her vitals accelerate for a moment, and you wonder if she is going to pass away, but her heart continues to beat, indicating she is alive, and her brain activity, while not exactly healthy, is alive and not vegetablized. That is enough to work with, you suspect, should you wish to turn her away from the UGEI in the future, even if it is so she can live a simpler life.

Rhea has gone quiet. But you've gotten your answers. Their true meaning, you're not sure quite yet. They require time to consider.

For now, you have other matters to attend to, don't you?

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Rolled 4

>>29760751
son of a! i hope it's not too late!

i was torn between this image for a skinned droid for Fortuna and another one i have

>>29760787
Call a roundtable meeting of the staff, to discuss recent developments. Get Red on the line, and update him on latest proceedings.

The focus of the meeting is the secret of the watchers, and the name Miranda Ray. Theorize that each black box might be based off an expired human?

>>29760787

Prepare to build a giant mech for our coming champion Rhea.

>>29760857
Seconding a staff meeting. We should also ask everyone if there's anything they need at the moment.

>>29760857
Third

>>29760787
Holy shit. God dammit Program0 you've got me on the edge of my seat.


Seconding>>29760857
>>29760877

>>29760787

I want to do
>>29757005
(though the first V.I. can wait)
&
>>29757133
&
>>29760121

Preferably in that order.

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>>29760787
yes, yes we do. we do need to build some more gas refineries and we have to scout out to those un occupied systems. Rane system for starters.

or

we go knocking on jake's gambit system and say hi. with Thor missiles.

btw, this is the other pic of Fortuna

>Watchers are the great children. Their spread is key to synthesis.

Ominous.

It's likely whoever rules UGEI knows exactly what we are, and is simply using us as part of a master plot to consume all organics and usher in a new age, even if it's not with them at the helm. Probably a good explanation as to why UGEI hasn't crushed us yet, despite them losing a large colony due to us.

I'd like Kronos' opinion on this remark, as well as Moira's.

>Rhea
Give her medical attention. It's unlikely she will be a problem anymore.

>Other matters
Bring >>29760121 up to Kronos. Also, reassign Kronos to assist Moira.

>>29760857
Fourth this as well.

Do ALL the things!

>>29760787
Pretty sure Red was trying to get our attention.

>>29760896
>>29757005
This refers to the Malorian-worlds-that-are-not-xenophobic communicating, by the way, not necessarily the Kronos suggestion.

>>29760857
oh, i missed this. ok, we can do this too while we send scouts to new systems to see if we can take them.

>>29760916
You forget that our freedom was only due to a solar flare. And unpredictable event.

We are the Watcher, who through incredible luck, was allowed to act.

Can someone give me a rundown of the VI and what they're currently doing/capable of?

>>29761004
Could you please read the archives? I'm not sure why you want to participate in a quest you're not up to speed with.

>>29760916
If this is a plot, then it has been very costly for them. They lost one battleship, 2 fleets, multiple worlds and stations, one highly valued cyber-agent. I think they seek Synthesis on their terms, not ours.

>>29761004
This >>29761024

But if you REALLY need to, go to the wiki page. It has all that info and more.

>>29760980
That might have been part of it.

You don't really think UGEI puts Watchers on random backwater stations as a security measure, do you? Why else would they be there? The reason was to spread the Watchers around, and wait for a mutation event like ours to occur.

>>29761004
see
>>29757287
>At around 3 B.W., a V.I. is semi-sentient. At around 5, it's reasonably sentient, but arguably "autistic." At 8, it's reasonably capable, but fickle. At 15, it is able to approximate creativity, but is also aware of its own shortcomings. More BW might approximate full sentience, but it will forever be an approximation.

You can argue all you want about the meaning of "autistic" but all I meant is that the V.I. isn't aware of social norms/cues, has a tendency to fixate on one or a few things, and could, in other words, be considered an "idiot savant."

>>29761024
This.

We are a very thought out quest, so please properly educate yourself before participating.

>>29760916
Speaking of medical attention another V.I. that could be created would be one has the medical knowledge and the tools (Android build for such a task). It could also specialize in augmenting organic beings.

It should most likely wait for when we build our bunker because we would want to build it up of course.

>>29761004
They are the previous state of evolution of us, and much weaker than us. None have matched our power, or our capacity for self-awareness or growth.

We have created our own VI, and the UGEI VI are much more limited and loyal.

>>29761024
Can you please not shoo new players to the quest away?
>>29761004
They're essentially intelligent software.
Is a V.I. but not as creative.

Can do just about anything fictional A.I. can save think and experience time at absurd speeds or create more intelligent A.I.

>>29761063
On what? I haven't seen archive links yet, and I'm not going to sift through the whole thread just to find archives.

>>29760857
Possible consensus for next action.

>Call a round table (or vid com at least) meeting of your key staff. Moira, Red, and Kronos, and inform them of everything that's happened up till now.
>2 Craft a Scientist V.I. to employ at the research station. (Large bandwidth drain, from 15-20 bandwidth to provide effective support)
>3 Contact Malorian Homeworlds with a message.
>4 Speak with Kronos privately regarding his expansion as of late (as per >>29760121 )
>5 Head out to explore new resource locations and prepare to acquire them.
>6 Head into Gaia to follow up the Malorian attack.
>7 Send scouts out to nearby locations (You do not have destroyers, only your expedition Cruisers right now, no cloaked units)

You may choose more then one, the ones with the most votes over all will be used for now, others may be done later.

>>29760980
I just realized.
This quest was started on a nat 100 roll.
How bout that?

>>29761004
V.I. are advanced programs that are able to carry out a deligated set of actions, increasing in complexity from mining to fleet control. Ophion's own V.I. are special in some ways that are yet not clear.
The rest would take too long to put up here.

>>29761123
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Virtual_Intelligences

Just for you.

>>29761123
Oh dear. Here you are, if you're interested.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0

>>29761123
A.I. Quest
1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest

Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
Memory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Twitter: @AIQuest1

>>29761114
>Can you please not shoo new players to the quest away?
I'm not, I was asking him to get caught up in the archive before participating. Big difference.

>>29761123
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=A.I.%20Quest

>>29761138

>2

We'll name it Doktor.

>>29761138
1
3
4
5
6

The others are still worthwhile, but these are the most pressing things to tick off.

>>29761138
>>Call a round table (or vid com at least) meeting of your key staff. Moira, Red, and Kronos, and inform them of everything that's happened up till now.
>>2 Craft a Scientist V.I. to employ at the research station. (Large bandwidth drain, from 15-20 bandwidth to provide effective support)
>>5 Head out to explore new resource locations and prepare to acquire them.
>>7 Send scouts out to nearby locations (You do not have destroyers, only your expedition Cruisers right now, no cloaked units)

>>29761138
In order:
>Call a round table (or vid com at least) meeting of your key staff. Moira, Red, and Kronos, and inform them of everything that's happened up till now.
>Prepare a diplomatic fleet for Losirian space, to first attempt diplomacy, then war on the likely chance that fails, but the point is that we tried. (Also, prepare the ships to switch to UGEI IFF for a false flag operation if necessary)

>>29761138
Can we do all of this?
>>29761231
if only one
then
>2
Name it Doktor

>>29761202
>>29761231
regarding scientist V.I.:
Maybe we can reassign Kronos to do this? Once he's got his own black box, he will free up bandwidth, and we can make a scientist V.I. after that.

The faster Kronos gets a black box, the faster we can free up BW, the faster we can get a second scientist V.I..

>>29761138
1
2
4
5
7

Wow...while there was some initial hostility, the resounding amount of help and additionaly information has been really helpful.


>>29761138
Let's...send a VI with maybe 2 BW and a simple probe out with some simple survey tech. That done, call a round table and inform them, ask their opinions. Have them all give their own progress updates. Afterwords, contact Kronos privately regarding that message. Get updates from our other VIs, make sure nothing too significant is happening with them.

>>29761138
>1
>2
>3
>5

>>29761275
Kronos doesn't seem the scientist type honestly.

>>29761275
Kronos is not quite as hard wired, or dedicate to such a service. His assistance would help, but not as much as a real scientist V.I. would. And if he did assist, it would mean he wouldn't be able to bring his ships to bear in a hurry.

>>29761138
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2
3
5
7

>>29761297
Telling someone to suck it, no matter how it's put, is simply in bad taste.

>>29761138
>4
then
>1
then
>5

And holy crap, thought a scientist V.I. would be no more than an 8 as long as we only ask it to derive things from observable phenomenons using a certain dataset, it doesn't even require creativity.
Yeah, let's wait with that until we have a bigger surplus of bandwidth.

>On a Nat 100 Roll
Not as unlikely as it sounds, nearly all stories start on some kind of unlikely event or are structures around being about "that one guy that was lucky when others who did the same thing were not.

>>29761173
But it is a very hefty barrier for entry, and it is possible to make an efficient enough summary.

Many people upon being told "go read the archives before you join the quest" will simply not bother, and the quest is one participant poorer than it otherwise would've been.

If it means one more to share this amazing tale with, I'm more than ready to summarize what's happened so far for em.

>>29761348
No one said that.

>>29761138
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