It was asked for, and so here it is- I am doing a Q&A thread for the next few hours.Questions about the setting or characters or whatever are welcome, though the ones I answer are up to my own discretion. Responses may be slow at times since my attention is split between several things right now.And so, let the show begin.
>>29761933Is it possible for reinhold to get a pet?
Would Gregory kill us if we broke Nico's heart?
>>29761933I'm really glad we're having this, thank you.What was the alternative outcomes of the duel?
>>29761933Alright, let's get this painful aspect outta the way.Are there any specific strategies used by non-mages/weak mages in impromptu fights against relatively powerful magic users?By that I mean do they stand a chance?
>>29761933Why is Monique a better character than Reinhold?
>>29762013One shot of bad end with us getting killed when?
What's our flag count at with the girls?This is important to us.
I think I remember you saying that if a fox lived for 20 years or so, it would turn into that person thing, due to magic build up. I also remember you saying that in nonhuman animals, the crystals could extend their life or magic or something. so my question was if the crystals could cause the little animals to "ascend"?
when can we learn a flight spell.
why are non-mages so useless in this universe?
>>29761933What's the deal with Celestino? He's at least 3 generations older than Thierri, but he has kids even younger than Marianne. What's his oldest children? What's the deal with him having kids so late, even?
What's the general plan for Reinhold?We've been shown repeatedly (especially after the duel) that Reinhold really can't guard Marianne against much at all unless his hand's being held by NPCs, and we're not doing good on the friend front either seeing as he's apparently still a 'dog' after however many threads it's been.Is him questing to actually get shit done (preferably magic shit) an option? Are we going to be managing the harem for the next hundred threads? Are there -any- drawbacks to wielding a Sealed King? What exactly is going on?
>>29761933Is it possible for Rein and the others to go in an adventure?Is it possible for Rein to become good at magic?Is it possible for Marianne to ever have any romantic feelings towards Reinhold?Does Agnes considering Reinhold as her greatgrandson mean he's Eschenwald now?
>>29761963While I suppose it would be entirely within Reinhold's character to pick up a stray puppy or something, I hadn't planned on adding any pets to the story or anything.Also, Marianne is afraid of dogs.>>29761984Depends on how it went down.Anything involving NTR would result in the worst possible murder, though.
>>29762026Did you see last threads? There's people who were arguing that Reinhold should always be apologetic whenever he does or says something that upsets a waifu. Archelon pretty much thinks anyone who doesn't want to play Reinhold as the bland, dull nice guy he is wants to play some "super badass alpha male".
>>29762125https://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/29738985/#q29745237
>>29762125This was already answeredHe was so busy ruling he forgot to roostAnd then had a bunch of kids
>>29761933Nicolette and Melanie-is the attraction mutual
>>29761933I'm pretty sure most people remember that you said that Luciana's original design involved her and BDSM stuff. That being said, that's only one character out of many. How was everyone else originally?Also, who is your favorite characterFamiliars when? ;_;
>>29761933What are Rein's assets?What armor and weaponry does he own?
>>29762186This times a hundred I want to know if we need to just stop the nico train now before it gets too far.As I understand it, even if it is, it's just a phase that only one or both are going through, is that the plan for them?
>>29762164You're projecting as bad as himWe apologized for worrying them, as in character, but we did not and shall not apologize for the duel itself.And nobody was arguing that Reinhold should ALWAYS be apologetic, just that it's in his nature to be very considerate.
I know you're being bombarded with questions, but can you describe what type of sword Reinhold is best with?
>>29762211>Familiars when? ;_;Tina? I'm sure it will evolve like a pokemon eventually.
>>29762186this. We need to know if we should stop Nicoplease let Melanie like her back arch, they're adorable together
>>29762220The phase thing was society's view.Maybe it's true love anon.And if it is (assuming meido reciprocates), nobody will step in because of Gregory.I think it's something we just have to sit back and watch, maybe encourage Nico a bit more since she's so nervous.
>>29762013>Reinhold loses but is in decent-enough physical shape:Karel shows up and tells Monique off, then offers his Flamberge for Reinhold to use for a fairer fight.>Reinhold wins:Karel shows up and tells Monique off, congratulates Reinhold for actually beating a Sealed King.
we know that there are dragons. fairies, and elementals living here and nekomata and kitsune in !Japanbut are there any other mythological beings that reside in this mythos like vampires, pegasus, liches, mermaids, or hell even lamia
>>29762162So did Karel get a bad reading off the crowd or something?Because despite what Marcus said, it seems like Marconetti really DID love Monique carrying on like a villain.
>>29762025Thierri has mastered exactly one spell, and he does fine enough.In an impromptu MAGIC BATORU, the general idea is to screw up the caster's concentration so that they can't actually get a spell off. It's not an absolute wash for a nonmagic user to face someone who concentrates on it.
So, in the grand scheme of the story you outlined, where are we? 10%? 20%?
will we ever get to go adventuring and escape being constantly overshadowed?
>>29762362What is the spell Thierri mastered?
>>29762364Ever tried sticking a sword up your ass?
>>29762373A million times this
Is there an in-setting reason for why the royalty are so freakishy powerful? It seems to run in the families.Post a power ranking of each named person, including some big opponents like that demon-blooded person (I forgot the name for those)?
>>29762303So the outcome we got was the worst possible outcome?How long would we had to have fought for either of those to happen? Did we just miss the deadline or was it because of our rolls?If it's because of our rolls, can you tell us which rolls passed and which failed?
>>29761933Can we ever graduate to longswords and then eventually greatswords? I think we need more sword by volume if we're to stay relevant.
>>29762396"Fish Talk", obviously.>>29762362Ah, thanks. I suspected as such.
>>29762039The idea is that in the event of you guys getting into a Bad End (either through dying yourself or letting the wrong characters die), I'd write up said bad end scenario and then do a Taiga Dojo-style thing that tells where exactly y'all done fucked up.Then I'd reset to the last point from which the narrative could continue.
how hard will it be to murder Monique without it being traced back to us?
>>29762373Nope, that's powergaming, anon.
>>29762362So if we're up against a mage our strategy should probably be to close the distance as fast as possible, preferably while throwing a knife into their throat or casting a spell, and sword them.They can't cast well if they have to worry that much about a sword in the gut.
>>29762452easy, just tell greg he said shit about greg's wife
>>29762464For fucks sake.Archelon, can you please just fucking define "powergaming" so these comments can finally stop?
>>29762464>powergamingNot smashing on you, directly, just that word...it's getting tossed around a lot whenever we ask about something other than the harem, and it's making me sad.
>>29762362Doesn't this mean that it's next to impossible to take someone with a sealed king on because it would mean breaking the concentration of a sword?
>>29762444So you said that Possession Mode was allowed because of that one Fire-Element Sealed King likes to experience the thrill of battle.Would he consider Monique's antics rules-appropriate?
>>29762362so the only way to stop a caster from using magic is to magically screw up their concentration?
>>29762444>letting the wrong characters dieDoes this mean that any plot-relevant character death results in a bad end, or are there people within the narrative that you have deemed potentially "acceptable" losses and would continue without?Or would it spoil things to answer this?
>>29762040I'm not going to tell you that outright.Though it's entirely possible to figure it out by following the story, I think.>>29762046Being infected by the crystals prevents an animal from ever gathering up enough magical energy within itself to reach that point.And if it were ever to actually do so, said crystals would burn out from the overload of trying to feed off of something with a soul.
May we switch protags to Monique? I'd rather be the guy with the Sealed King, honestly, and if Reinhold's never going to get one it'd be easier to just permanently switch POV. Also, since everyone relevant despises Monique other than the sword, it'd put a certain sense of excitement into social interaction that's been missing with the 'my poor baby/pet' that Reinhold seems to be inundated with on a regular basis.
>>29762545do you have a plan to keep Luciana in the story, or is she going to become a minor character unless we waifu her before we leave?
>>29762534Not magically, no. It's pretty hard to concentrate when someone's hitting you, after all.
>>29762444Are there other subtypes for magic types, or others that we do not know about?I notice without counting subtypes, Sun Side (Wind, Lightning, Fire, Light) have more types than Moon Side (Darkness, Water, Earth). However, if you account for the subtypes, Moon Side seem to have a lot more.
How far do you plan the events of each session? As in, do you know exactly the events you wanna cover, or do you fill in by context and some large plot arc?
>>29762574I'm pretty sure that would just turn into "The Grass is always Greener" syndrome.
>>29762100When you decide to do so, though it may not be the most useful thing to learn.
>>29762545Theoretically, can't you just make a ton of metal with magic and sell it for scrap? With Fragment Blader or even a less-magic intensive version. Not saying we'd do that, but it seems like the economy can't be consistent with historical ones at all. Or any IRL ones if you can just wish resources into existence.
>>29762607I dunno, it gives us a massive advantage over everyone who doesn't know one-high ground is a huge help in a fight, as is maneuverability
What are our assets?What is our inventory (weapons, armor, etc)?
>>29762545In conversations with Takamura, we've learned that he fights with multiple 'stances' and he identified Monique using a quick draw technique that he forewarned Reinhold of before the duel. Though we've been improving our magic and learning to blend casting with sword play, are there still robust options to improve Reinhold through martial means and technique as well?Can you tell us about some of the options that can be pursued for that?Can you quantify Reinhold's current fighting style with such language as well?Does Reinhold have rage?
>>29762628assets-waifus, waifus' parents, castle swag access, Arnaudweapons-broken swordarmor-guard uniform, magiced to prevent damage like full plate
>>29762596This is wrong. I dunno the pairings, but each element from each side opposes just one. And Ice/Metal are just sub-elements.Archelon can we become like EMIYA? GUTS? [A really badass swordsman, magic or no]?
>>29762607>Flight spell>Not Usefularch you better not tell me you don't think flight spells are incredibly useful.
>>29762616Now, this is just my take on it, but since magic can't (as far as current information tells us) produce a well-wrought item, base materials may be cheap, but actual worked items would be worth considerably more. The economy doesn't have to fit real-world models, quite simply because we have no way of accurately modeling an economy that was built upon a lack of scarcity.
>>29762675These are the ones we know now (from thread 19) :>SUN SIDE:>Fire (opposes Water)>Lightning (opposes Earth)>Wind (opposes Earth)>Light (opposes Darkness)>MOON SIDE:>Water (opposes Fire)>Ice (water subtype, opposes Fire)>Earth (opposes Lightning)>Metal (Earth subtype, opposes Fire)>Darkness (opposes Light)
>>29762675This is probably the best outcome. The Sealed King is essentially a Behelit...except, of course, the Behelit has some really nasty drawbacks...
>>29762738Wouldnt Metal oppose Lightning, like Earth does? It is a sub-element after all.
>>29762675Emiya?What If we find a way to make an Ultimate Fragment Blade?
how much cash do we have, and how many acres of land could it buy?
>>29762607can you give us the exact numbers of the armies of both kingdoms?
>>29762730There's a few. And there's actually a couple of books and articles about fantasy economies for tabletop GMs who want to make it something sensible and matter.
Light <-> DarkFire <-> Cold/IceElectricity <-> WaterGround <-> AirWood <-> MetalThose seem like the pairings to me, honestly.
DOES THE WORM TURN, ARCHELON
>>29762156>Is it possible for Rein and the others to go in an adventure?Depends on the wishes of the people around him.>Is it possible for Rein to become good at magic?At the moment, he's on the same path that Gregory was on at his age.>Is it possible for Marianne to ever have any romantic feelings towards Reinhold?It is possible.>Does Agnes considering Reinhold as her greatgrandson mean he's Eschenwald now?He doesn't formally have the last name.
>>29762828>Woodnigger whatWho wants to be a wood mage
>>29762738I'm pretty sure Gregory is probably lightning as well, his signature attack is a lightning spell
>>29762858Gregory is Wind.
>>29762844>It is possible.please no
>>29762857Probably Naruto lovers.
>>29762857HeyDon't insult Druids, some of my best friends are druids
>>29762896What about Ariane?
>>29762897CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER
>>29762186I am not going to spoil this.
>>29762857It's incredibly useful for archery and sneaking, if you treat it as "plants in general" like Jim Butcher does in his Alera books.
>>29762938I'm not sure he'll answer that or he should answer that, because if we know her element, we can deduce what Nico's element probably is and we need to save that occurrence later for maximum embarrassment
the secret to immortality is letting your body grow and not stopping it.what other methods exist?
>>29762958Nico's element is heart
>>29762949Okay, fair enoughCan you tell us what kind of steps we should take to find out without being pushy and demanding in-character?
>>29762949oh god that means noSorry nico ;-;
>>29762958Nicolette doesn't look like she's going to learn more magic anytime soon.
Rolled 3>>29762844>It is possible.Oh yeah!
>>29762211Marianne's the same as she always was.I had honestly expected Nicolette to be the ones that you guys actively pursued, but you kind of frenzoned her for a long while there.Takamaru was originally intended to be Boring Samurai, but he's gotten a bit more character over time because I rather like him.Everyone else is pretty much how I ended them to be from the start.
>>29762844A few threads back you wrote that the sealed kings were absorbing mana to gain the bodies back but it takes a long time, how close are the sealed kings to getting back their bodies?.
>>29762991nah, it means yes. Arch just wants to throw us off so its a surprise
>>29763012I'm wondering if Setsuranka's juuuust about there, and she'll wake up in Monique's possession. Awkward.
If the wielder of a Sealed King were to ascend into an elemental, what would happen? Would they still be the wielder of the King?
>>29763011>I had honestly expected Nicolette to be the ones that you guys actively pursued, but you kind of frenzoned her for a long while there.It's the /u/ boats archelon, they're here to sink the spear waifu.They'll probably succeed too;_;
>>29763011Is it possible to ditch Marianne without getting a Bad End?
If that isn't a spoiler - Who does Marianne actually see like people among the cast?
Archelon, you missed some earlier questions like:>>29762154>>29762244>>29762215I dunno if some are baity, but an acknowledgement of grievances would be enough. if people had the patience to see what you'd do post-duel I don't think there'd be anywhere near as much bitching.>>29762362How does this apply to contractors, sealed king users and people like Gregory, who can near instantly use spells?We're a soldier, so surely we'd have learned ways to fight mages?What is Reinhold's actual fighting style? He fights with a one-handed sword, and? Does he just fight sideways? What's the dagger used for?
>>29762857I dunno, there's some neat shit that Dragon Blooded have that's in Exalted.
>>29763011I'm confused now, what would we have done differently to pursue Nicolette? It seems like we hit every flag amazingly well. Also thanks for keeping Taka, he's one of my favorite characters.
>>29763011what bullshit plans does Celistino have for Monique now?I swear to god if the people joking about him marrying Luci to that ponce...
Archelon tell me about how warfare works in PGQland where you have mages, magic gear, dragons, lindwurms etc.
>>29762828Wood doesn't exist. And again, metal/ice are sub-elements. I don't think they'd oppose another full element
>>29763011Do you like cookies Arch?
>>29762844Mariannne x Reinhold isn't impossible.Best news of the week!
when nullspace blade
>>29762243Reinhold's used a single broadsword for his entire swording life, so that's what he's best with.>>29762308Vampires are a thing. Fairies are also a thing, and the ones who bond with trees instead of end up becoming something akin to dryads.Phoenixes are also a thing, though very rarely seen.The southern continent is filled with horrible things that eat humans, and also lots and lots of types of terrible insect people."Mermaids" tend to be elemental spirits of water.
I have to ask, I know you've been planning this universe for a whileEver consider other kinds of side stories from the one you wanted to make originally? Want to tell us about some of them?
>>29763104>kingdoms start an all out war>just as the two armies meet a dragon/elemental arrives and slaps everyone's wrist and tell everyone to go home and live in peace.
>>29763129Marie a shit
>>29763077>>29762154Too many of them and some are bordering on baity/spoileriffic.>>29762244Spoiler.>>29762215It's been answered in the first threads. Besides the obvious (crystal bracelet, sword - currently one loaned by Agnes, books back in Granache, money), his only notable item is enchanted clothes made to be more resistant to damages.
>>29763149>"Mermaids" tend to be elemental spirits of water.Given this, and that the former country that Granache and Marconetti broke off from was founded by Sivarios, a water elemental spirit, I assume that neither Granache nor Marconetti are landlocked?What's the geography of the continent we're situated on look like, anyhow? Mountain ranges separating borders, large bodies of water, approximate size/shape, etc?
>>29763172No, there's war in PGQland. Just not in our immediate region, or at least not right now.
>>29763077Daggers are almost always useful. It's a good backup if disarmed, it's a tool as well as a weapon, it can be thrown, and it's easily concealed.
>>29763129Just remember every time you look at our rank that Marianne's afraid of dogs.
>>29763203He got a pocketwatch too
>>29763011So Nicolette's your favorite?How popular are plays in the setting? Are they a common source of entertainment?Which interpretations did you originally want for Citrine, and are you happy with the current interpretation for her (being our 'sister')? How much are the other characters molded based on our input?
What is the full canine scale? Does it stay full doge (hound, purebreed, lap dog) or does it branch into foxes and stuff?
>>29763270True.
Would you actually do a Bad End or stop running if at some point in the story, most people decided Reinhold to resign as bodyguard and go adventuring?
>>29762323Karel is pissed about the entire affair so he has a kind of skewed perception of the things that he's heard.>>29762369Is around 50%, I think.The idea's to get to the end of the story around April, but I am terrible at estimating the amount of time that this is going to take.
>>29763253That's why we need to increase it all the way to human.And that rank down, even if by itself it's bad, along with the 'shouting rein's name for the first time' thing is still an advancement.Sometimes you've got to take a step back, to make a greater advancement later on.
>>29763330>50%Gotta work fast on those rank ups.
>>29763313See >>29762444
>>29763336>And that rank down, even if by itself it's bad, along with the 'shouting rein's name for the first time' thing is still an advancement.That's not a real advancement. It'd be horribly bad writing if it was. It has /some/ significance, sure. But you know. She shouted it because we were close to death. That's not unnatural to do for someone you know.
Arch, who are your least favorite characters? If they're all antagonists, who's your least favorite character on "our" side
>>29763366That doesn't answer the question at all.
>>29763313artventurehold would be the most ballin
>>29763330Arch, please define powergaming.
>>29763372It depends on where are we going too, >>29763303
>>29763372It was the first time she ever said his name, anon.Arch himself pointed it out. She acknowledged him as a person for a brief moment, of course later she goes back to her little rank, but it's pretty obvious that's just part of her "mask", just like her attitude.
>>29763149A few questions.How do weapon enchants work? Do we just find a dude and he enchants an already existing blade or does the blade have to be 'forged' enchanted and can't be changed after the fact? How widespread are enchanted swords? What types of enchants are out there?Can the crystal ever be used in a fashion to add on to our sword as needs require like this pic?
>>29763330>Is around 50%Are we on track for any end other than "no waifu due to indecision"? How much have we fucked up in that direction so far?
>>29762396You'll see in the future.Maybe.>>29762420In Marconetti and Granache, it's just because they used to go adventuring before settling down and accepting their kingly responsibilities. This isn't a continent-wide trend though, Sadaharu for example is not really a fighter.As for a power ranking, I don't really have one. And there's not one specific person who can beat all the others.But as a simple example, it is possible Arnaud can beat Gregory but he can never win againt Vincent. Gregory is capable of beating Vincent, but he'll likely lose against Arnaud.It's like that, mostly.
>>29763330>Is around 50%, I think.you didn't actually want us to pursue getting stronger this quest did you.
>>29763405And? Even dogs have names, but I don't think it matters. Just because the QM mentions it, doesn't mean there's a huge amount of significance. I think you're reading into something that may not even be there, since you're just speculating.She saw we were about to die, freaked out and yelled our name. That's it. That's a very, very natural reaction to do for anyone you give a slightest shit about.
>>29763492I think right now all the main girls are viable, but the advancement is like this:1) Luci/Sylvie2) Marianne3) NicoletteSo Luci or Sylvie'd be the least work, Marianne'd be quite a bit due to tsun (still worth it), and Nico was kind of neglected, but it's still viable with some work.
>>29763330ShitThis is a good settingI don't want to burden you, but if you end up finishing this quest relatively soon, you should run another in the same universe.
Would it have been possible for us to use the bracelet to forcibly hold the iceslab that was our sword's blade attached to the handle during the fight with Monique? Something like having it burrow pieces of itself into the ice while wrapping around our hand and the sword's handle?
>>29763547But Rana is such a best girlShe never really had a chance
Arch please tell me you are not actually planning on giving us a pseudo Sealed King when we combine our sword with the crystal.
>>29763547Lets not even bother with Nicolette. I know some of you guys like her, but we're halfway through the quest and this waifu-flag stuff is really grating on me. Especially the metagaming.Hell, lets not bother with dating anyone until there's some good character development. I don't want Reinhold to contradict what he said to Sylvie and Nicolette.
>>29763598She only has a chance if Archelon extends the quest a bit.Say, make our current "more or less 50%" into a 30%
>>29763547I agree on your order, but disagree with the worth of things Really want to drop Marie and start up Princess Adventure Quest with Luciana, Elena, Taka, and Andreas. Also, Nico isn't viable because she prefers Melanie.
>>29762531Anrasorana would think that Monique is an ass and then he'd challenge him to a duel himself.And then he'd win handily, both because of his own skill and because fire beats ice.>>29762534You can't Invoke a spell without actually saying the spell name.
>>29763528If that's the case, we'd better hurry up and pick a waifu.
>>29763601fluff bringer pls go
>>29763547I'd actually put Nico above Marianne right now, considering the former's little freak out when she thought we were going to die will probably make her think about her feelings a lot more. That and she actually admitted to us about having feelings for us. She's actually on the radar now.Marianne for intents and purposes is the little sister we never had until she admits her feelings might be something more.
>>29763528as a wise monk once saidit's not magic that revived me! but the sheer power of will!
>>29763650>freak outMarianne had one also, she was screaming Rein's name and crying, completely desperate.
>>29763627It'd be pretty damn irresponsible to take a little kid along. She's like 8.
>>29762162>is afraid of dogs>we're dog rankwaaait a minute...
>>29763524Well if that's the case then what does Gregory have that Arnaud does not besides youth?Also where does Niklaus and scary butler stand against them? Or Ariane for that matter?
>>29763633>You can't Invoke a spell without actually saying the spell name.If a spellcasting from a scroll is interrupted, does it waste the scroll, or are they only rendered useless upon a complete casting of the "stored" spell?
>>29763547>no tinaokay..
>>29763684She's afraid of real dogs, not figurative dogs.
>>29763680she's stronger than us by a mile
>>29763695Being crystal is suffering
>>29763680it's not that we take her along, it's that three weeks into adventuring we notice a bit of red following us in the crowd one day
>>29763619Please, this. Archelon really fucked up by implicitly encouraging the waifu/harem faggotry when it first showed up too.
>>29763684yepon top of thinking we're a dumb animal, she's afraid of us.
>>29763547I think we can all safely assume meido is off the grid love wiseWell, except for Nico
>>29763705also a childwith a childlike perspective and handling of said power
>>29763051Just makes me hate /u/ even more, Anon.
>>29763684http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
>>29763547But best girl Rana is still available, you know.The Rana train cannot be stopped.
>>29763733>When it first showed upI'm pretty sure it was part of the deal since the beginning anon.As in, it was the intended draw.
after the quest is over can you please put all of the info you have about your amazing setting into a pdf or something and upload it
>>29763688Gerhard loses againt Arnaud. Niklaus is a powerhouse in terms of ability (he's one of the few people in this world who has any grasp of the concept of gravity beyond "things fall down") but he's not really suited for a direct confrontation.Ariane is a monster, and is easily on par with her husband.
>>29763695Tina doesn't exist yet, remember? First we have to combine the bracelet with our busted sword, then supercharge it with enough magic (without exploding it) that it becomes sentient. Pretty sure that's the Tina route anyway.
>>29763705We lose one little duel by technicality and suddenly we're a hopeless crippleJeez
>>29763665Very true, but it's just as a friend, until she admits to it being more than that. For Nico, I think it puts things into perspective. Like the difference between her first crush and her second crush isn't that far apart.
>>29763767Rana goes to Andreas, since I think it'd be hilariousReya gets Marie
>>29763779>Ariane is a monster, and is easily on par with her husband.everyone's afraid of vincent, greg, and niklas, but no one ever suspects the little girl
>>29763738>implying she isn't going to cause a last second upset and win the Rein
>>29763753I've always wanted Nicolette, when we first found her I knew that she was basically perfect for someone like Reinhold.Then the quest grew in popularity and archelon paired her off so I'm in a state of not really caring.
Are there any plots or details you set up that wound up getting abandoned?
>>29763767I pray for Rana route but it won't happen, Anon.
>>29763779I was asking about what Gregory has that Arnaud doesn't but that definitely clears up a few things. Thanks Arch keep doing what you're doing
>>29763796no, it's more along the lines of elena saw a spell once and was able to alter it to fit her needs. she's a monster in the making
>>29763780Even if it doesn't become a girl, I want to do this. I want us to have a sword-companion. They're the best ones to have.However, I'm actually betting it'll become a girl based on the fact that the bracelet's done nothing besides experience our reactions to womenfolk and be in close proximity to females all the time. We have very little time amongst other guys - in fact, it's really only been on this trip that our guy-time has increased.
>>29763796no, she's a magical powerhouse and magic>greater than mundane weapon. Especially if you have flight, which she does, because then you just throw up a ward that diverts projectiles and win the game
>>29763808Not really, she said Rein's her second best friend.The freak out is mostly due to her friendship, she says that in thought herself during the scene.Both of them are due to caring about Reinhold, as a friend, even if they have the potential love (not crush).
>>29763796I think it is more the fact she learned a flying spell just by watching her bodyguard once and modified it.
>>29763769Not unless archelon says so he intended to have a harem thing. The playerbase in general was very different (and better) early on in the quest. Once the weapon shitstorm happened & popularity exploded, the waifufags took over. He just didn't care about waifufags.
>>29763816>ReyaXMarieActually, that makes a lot of sense given their interaction durning our duel.
>>29763839You're confusing your own taste with what is 'best'Nico's good, but she's not perfect by any means.If anything, Mari is the one who has guided Reinhold into actually questioning his own self.
>>29763865i want it to be a guy just so we have a guy friend to talk with besides arnaud. plus it is eating the magic of us, a guy, so that has to factor in
>>29763816Andreas cannot handle that level of spunk.
>>29763816>Reya gets Marieactually, this has potential, and gets one of the worst girls away from us. let's do it
>>29763839I pretty much feel the same as you at this point. I just stopped caring about what route happens because I know it'll just be decided by whichever side samefags the most.
archelon what RPG system would you use for a game set in PGQverse?inb4 DnD 3.5 because of caster supremacy
>>29762535There are certain characters who can die and things will still go on without them.There are others who will cause a Bad End if you let them dieThe two examples of the latter that I will give are Marianne and Thierri since they're pretty obvious.>>29762579You'll see.>>29762596Heat is considered a subtype of Fire, but this isn't a direct manifestation in the way that, say, Water and Ice are related.All the base types are accounted for, though.And it's not supposed to be an even split.
>>29763922really, Arch should do it by flags, since otherwise we'll just samefag to a stalemate at every option, like we've been doing
>>29763895>You're confusing your own taste with what is 'best'I think that's pretty obvious that it's my opinion. Like really, really blatantly obvious.Why? Because everyone's thoughts on waifus is their opinion. Your own analysis of Marie is your opinion and likely not shared with even the majority of the thread. So please, let's not get into the opinion game in a civil thread.
>>29763883Not necessarily a harem, but really the early part of the quest was ALL about waifus and social interaction.And with the hints at flags and VN, it's only natural to assume that's what he intended.
given that magic is based on the sun and moon, how does the planet's ring factor into magic
>>29763953That'll only work if Arch doesn't say he will and just sets a point in the story where he takes person with most flags as the prime candidate. But that'll cause a shitstorm of its own so it'd probably not a good idea. We'll just have to brace for the eventual samefagging when it's time to pick.
>>29763908I'd be totally cool with it being a guy, as it were.Hell, my ideal for that situation is that through all the time spent with Volker, the original sword had residual 'traces' of Volker's spirit or whatever imbued in it, ala 'ki' or whatever you wanna call it.And by fusing the bracelet into it, it'll latch onto those parts that were Volker and the time he spent with the blade and awaken as if it'd been asleep all this time, but remembering the time it spent with both Volker and Rein alike, as a kind of rowdy, batshit uncle type persona.
>>29763895Mari is also verbally abusive, vindictive, borderline sociopathic, and much further away from being ready for a relationship than Reinhold
>>29763943>You'll seeI DON'T LIKE THISTHIS MEANS STUFF IS GOING DOWN
>>29763779How far does the recent history go back to? What existed before Granache was established for example?How old is the continent at this point?Also were there any events of major note before the Sealed Kings event since that seems like this settings epoch divider (like BC to AD)?
>>29763895>If anything, Mari is the one who has guided Reinhold into actually questioning his own self.You're confusing your own taste with what is 'best'.We could get into a screaming match right now as to why that's merely headcanon.
>>29764028it means all the theories about Celestino trying to marry Luciana and Monique were true, and the next half of the Quest will be us on the run while Gregory covers for us with illusionsI can't wait
>>29764022>Borderline sociopathicShe's well adjusted, but she lacks social skills and is moody.That's been abundantly clear throughout the quest.>Verbally abusiveTo an extent, but she's never really insulted anybody (reinhold included) to the point of actual offense>VindictiveI'll give you that one
>>29763953what if we vote by vocaroo?
>>29763943How easy would it be to get a weapon enchanted? Or is Niklaus going to science something up just as cool or mutually exclusive to weapon enchants?
>>29763934Calling it right now, Anima.In fact I could fairly accurately stat most of the main cast right now in that system, the only hiccup being the spell-names and effects being slightly different due to the two settings each having spell-lists which won't quite mesh.
>>29764104powergaming, we aren't allowed to know
>>29762597There's generally a point that I'd like to stop at for the night, but I don't always make it there.And then you factor in my slow writing speed and it gets even worse.>>29762675EMIYA doesn't even want to be EMIYA, you know...>>29762816Don't have that exact information, sorry.
>>29764071But it's objectively true.Nobody else seems to notice Reinhold's problems and critique him on it.She, in her vindictiveness, has.She's not even my favorite by taste.
>>29764022>>29764080>VindictiveSo far I can say the same about both Luci and Sylvie as well. That smug-bitch smirking Sylvie did whenever trying to one-up Luci just was plain off-putting. And Luci's violent cruelty and own vindictive mean-streak is nothing to ignore either.
>>29764144>But it's objectively true.If you don't know what this word means, please don't use it. I mean, seriously. Let's not get into this right now.
>>29764144she knows we have problems because we fucked up DANCING and she almost killed us for it, so our issues came out. Nobody else notices because literally every time we've tried to tell someone, people scream 'muh trauma' and block it because it might get points with the wrong girl
>>29764145When has Luciana been violently cruel besides when people tried to kill her?
>>29764145I almost think we should have a side thread with arguing with people like you who spout their opinion and then immediately attack everyone else's opinion the second they post theirs. You really are just being aggressive and hostile for the sake of being aggressive and hostile, this isn't even a vote thread, why are you doing this?
>>29764134Do you just wait to spam that at any chance?>>29764145I didn't really interpret it as bitch-smirkingLuci's 'violent cruelty' was a justified action as a ruler, and she steps into that role well.Hell, she cried all night because she thought we'd outright hate her for it.
>>29764235I seem to recall that we told Nico and Sylvie as well.
>>29764144>Nobody else seems to notice Reinhold's problems and critique him on it.Except the other people who know of Reinhold's problems? Like Nico and Sylvie? once again, this is your headcanon that you're trying to spin into being fact.
>>29764145Sylvie, I'll give you. Luciana's violent cruelty came out towards people trying to kidnap and/or murder her and destabilize her country. Little more justified than the other two, and more than a bit sexy.
>>29764276They haven't said shit about it anon.This is the true, don't try to spin it any other way.
>>29764269We NEVER told them what happened, The only other person who knows is Melanie
>>29764141So are you going to be doing more stuff in this setting?Because we're 50% through the story and we haven't really seen shit and are unlikely to do so in the future.Seems like a waste.
>>29763964>And with the hints at flags and VN, it's only natural to assume that's what he intended.That came way later on when a bunch of annoying people went "hey, this is like a VN" for like 10 threads nonstop.
>>29764311>They haven't said shit about it anon.You mean except Nico telling us we're an indecisive idiot? Or even Lucy telling us about the same thing?Other people have told us plenty of our flaws, you are, once again, spinning your opinion as fact because you want to be hostile and aggressive to other people and their opinion.
>>29764243>>29764244Um.. I wasn't aware that my comment was aggressive, attacking anyone, or even being spam. Sorry if you guys are so thin-skinned as to perceive some random dude - who wasn't even participating in your little waifu 'debate', no less - making casual outside commentary as some kind of assault on your person, and the thread itself.Seriously, guys, you can't even handle something this basic without blowing a gasket?
>>29763780Turning the bracelet into a sword might also prevent Tina from ever happening.Though if a sword -does- manage to turn into a golem it'd probably have more reasons to hate us by then.
Have you thought about running a more open world quest with new characters after this one gets done? I really like the world you've described but we've kind of prevented from seeing both of it because of our job
>>29764355>Seriously, guys, you can't even handle something this basic without blowing a gasket?no, haven't you been following the threads
>>29764141I bet EMIYA doesn't dislike his reality marble and tracing, though.
>>29764313No..I'm pretty sure we told them. Shit, did we?
>>29764355>Seriously, guys, you can't even handle something this basic without blowing a gasket?Because the first one we replied to, the person we were having a conversation with, blew a gasket and tried to start a waifu shitstorm. You aren't that person are you? Because if you are, what you said came off as condescending, I'll drop it right now and just stop this before it gets any further if you meant no harm.
>>29764403I don't think we did, I think we just told them that we had a shitty day and then beat up Nicolette for it.
>>29764403nico, sylvie, and melon know we grew up in a whorehouse and that things were shit, but don't know any specifics. can't remember if luci knows even that much
>>29764388Touché.
>>29764355I was referring to the guy spamming power gaming, not you.>>29764354Holy fuck get your panties out of a bunch.I was never hostile to other people's opinions, but it's ridiculous to argue that anybody other than Marianne has been significantly critiquing Reinhold's issues.Nico and Lucy are commentated on the indecisiveness because it relates directly to them, other than that, they never made any initiative to actually change it.I never said Marianne was the best girl, or that she's even right as a love interest, just that she has been in sense guiding us. She's perfect for Reinhold in that she is actively challenging him to grow out of his old flaws.
>>29764455nopewe've discussed telling her OOC, but we haven't really had a chance to yet. Personally think we should though, and maybe a bit more than just "yo, I come from the brothel"we need to start working to mend this alleged trauma, not just bottling it up. Also Luci best girl
>>29764412Nah, man, I was literally just making a side-comment that while Marie may be vindictive, that's not really a trait that she alone has claim to. At best my insinuation'd be that holding her being vindictive against her would be fairly hypocritical when other girls have the same thing, or something equally detrimental, going for them. None of the girls are perfect, after all. Pretending otherwise is just silly.
>>29764540Give up on Luci, Anon. She's destined for Monique.
>>29764535The other anon's right though. She isn't the only one trying to get us to grow out of our flaws, its just that we as the players are ignoring them becasue we like to have the trauma card as an excuse to argue indecision
>>29764540luci's the one i'd vote as least likely to talk with about. whether you like her or not rein has spent less than 24 hours even within earshot of her. if we're going to talk about the shit in our past it should be with someone we've gotten to know betterpersonally, i vote citrine
>>29764535>I never said Marianne was the best girl, or that she's even right as a love interest, just that she has been in sense guiding us.My point is that they've all, been, guiding, us.The only way she has been 'guiding' this quest is in her animal ranking system, and that's a metagame goal to strive for. Other than that she's just the girl that we bodyguard for.
>>29764571God I hope not I'd go for the Luci route just to save her from that.
>>29764571>Implying Luci would stand for that after what he did to ReinholdCelestino wouldn't make it through the explanation before she starts chanting her funky stone hand spell
>>29762938That is a secret.>>29762958And that is why.>>29762971Vampirism is the result of a flawed attempt at attaining eternal life.Then the people who caused tried to refine the method and ended up creating succubi instead.Contractors and Devil Children age based on the "age of their soul" as opposed to that of their body. So basically, it's possible for them to stay eternally young as long as their inner selves remin as such.This is not in any way easy, as life wears on you.There was also an experiment a loooong time ago involving crystalline lifeforms that was an actual success. The completed form, named "Gran," bonds with a subject and augments their natural abilities while also stopping th aging process. The host can be killed, however, which results in the one who killed the old host becoming the new host.This is what Niklaus is ultimately trying to recreate, though he isn't close to his goal in ANY way.
>>29764571Considering that Celestino was apparently very disapproving of Monique, I doubt it.
>>29764571celestino will let her turn down marrying whoever, but whoever she winds up with has to benefit the kingdom, so she can say no
>>29764626I genuinely doubt Monique would live long enough if he had to stay with Luci. I mean, he has the sword, but she has waaaay better spells.
>>29764571I'm afraid that if we actually lock on to her she'll become rape-pushy ;-;>>29764582Regardless, Mariane still breaches that.That just lends more to the argument, that's she's been so far the best to combat it.
>>29764626Shit I'd pay good money to see a Luci get into a magic fight with her dad.
>>29764653>Gran..crystalline symbiote suit? Is it sentient?
>>29764626First of all, even if he tried to push Luci off onto him, there's no guarantee Monique would accept.I mean, he has sword waifu now.
>>29764668also, Monique needs to sleep, and Luci would be able to stay awake using the power of her hatredanyone have the adventuring party setup from previous threads? We're talking about Celistino trying to pair Luci and Monique enough for it to possibly happen, we should probably prepare for that
>>29764726We don't know if he wants to fuck a sword as much as we do.
>>29764726Monique is a socially climbing douchebag, he'd accept in a heartbeat
Archelon if you do another quest will it have waifu/haremfaggotry?
>>29764657>>29764661Mmmm dunno about that. The power of a sealed king might be enough to overlook his disapproval.
What happens to contractors whose elemental spirit that they contracted to dies?Besides the fact that if the spirit dies then the contracted person is more than likely dead too.
>>29764653>Then the people who caused tried to refine the method and ended up creating succubi instead.>succubiYou have no idea what kind of horror you've unleashed upon this quest.
>>29764801All is forgiven as long as they have dicks.
>Tfw could have been famous as the guy who beat a sealed king with nothing but DE HEARTReinhold's wet dream
>>29764778honestly, this is probably the only Quest I've seen where allowing a harem route would have less faggotry
>>29764145>Luci's violent crueltyWhere do people get this from? Because she ordered Takamaru to kill a kidnapper? The guy was dead either way.
>>29764837Let's not get into that, enough people are bitter enough as it is, reminding them that it was the worst possible outcome when the rolls were actually very generous for /tg/ dice is the last thing we need.
>>29762983That's entirely up to you guys.>>29763012Anrasorana is the closest to this point. Setsuranka is at least a hundred years away.>>29763049It's not possible to ascend into an elemental while in direct possession of a Sealed King because "the world" recognizes the combination of master and sword as an Elemental when together.However, a person would indeed remain the sword's master if they were to ascend while away from their Sealed King.
>>29764801SM directly added one to the plot of his quest and it went fineI'd hope our playerbase isn't dumb enough to run off and try to dick the first thing it sees with tits
>>29764873>I'd hope our playerbase isn't dumb enough to...you hope in vain
>>29764871Will it be possible to spar with monuqie?Or Have a battle with him with out his sealed king?
>>29764857Not that anon but the thing that popped into my mind was when she tried to bully Sylvie into giving up the Rein and the slapping Elena around. So I guess that could have been what they meant.
>>29764873Succubus waifu when?
>>29764947Why would you not want a sealed king fight? That's like, the best part of knowing a guy with a sealed king
>>29764952That's more her being pushy and manipulative than explicity 'cruel'.And Elena needed some reigning in, she messed up big time.>>29764959Succubutts are unfeeling monsters anon
>>29764873The gears are already turning anon>>29764959Case in point
>>29764873>it went fine...for some definitions of fine.>>29764871>because "the world" recognizes the combination of master and sword as an ElementalHow much research has been done into exactly how magic operates, anyhow? Is all the talk about "the world" treating things one way or another just like saying "here's how "the world" treats gravity, chemistry, etc."?If the world acknowledges a Sealed King's master as an elemental, could someone theoretically dig up the spell the original crazy guy used to bind the Sealed Kings in the first place, and re-bind a given Sealed King along with their wielder into a NEW Sealed King with two personalities?And how insane would someone have to be to actually think this was worth testing?
>>29764653>>>29762938>That is a secret.>>>29762958>And that is why.It's Heart.Mark my words, Nico's element is HEART.That's why she'd be embarrassed.
>>29764979So we have an even chance of winning, probably
>>29765029NicklausMake it happen
>>29765001>>29765002Peace, anon's. It was just a joke. Rana is superior anyways.
>>29763072Her father, Arnaud, Sir Vincent and the rest of the bigshots back at the castle.Also the rest of her relatives, Celestino's family (minus Giancarlo)...>>29763077Contractors are bad opponents to go against in general. But their innate magic is limited to a specific element, which leads to some advantge when you learn what said element is.(like Monique laughing when he realized that he could just freeze all of his opponent's water, regardless of how much was thrown at him)At their base, the holder of a Sealed King is about as dangerous as a contractor or Devil Child. The modfifying factor in this case is what sword they happen to have.
>>29765077Rana is an unfeeling monster anon
>>29764952She slapped Elena because Elena did something stupid that could have gotten her killed.It wasn't out of cruelty or anything.
>>29765083>Not Nico, Not Sylvie>Not Melanie, who's been her friend for yearswhat the fuck Marianne?
>>29765083How many animal ranks are there?And how far are we from human?
>>29765101I dunno I get the feeling she would do a lot of feeling if she got the chance.
>>29764952>when she tried to bully Sylvie into giving up the Reinshe wanted to see if sylvie was serious, since she was they agreed to be friendly rivals>slapping Elena aroundi count one bop on the head when elena tried to weasel her way in to the trip, and one slap when elena almost killed herself. neither is really violent, since mild fighting is pretty common amongst siblings (rein may react different, will address) and giving someone a smack when they do something REALLY stupid is a good way to make sure they're actually paying attentionnow as for the casual fighting amongst siblings, while i see it as normal, rein may react very negatively to it since in his childhood citrine was the one person that he didn't fight with and was very protective of. not just "no one hits her but me" but simply "no one hits her"
>>29765108So when's she going to roofie us?I can feel it coming.
>>29765131Nicolette and Sylvie are both related to her.I admittedly forgot about Melanie, of course Marianne sees her as a person. (insert joke here)
>>29765083So, a well-rounded party of Devil Children/Contractors would be extremely dangerous, huh?
>>29765142if she does we'll wake up with her crying her eyes out because she knew it wouldn't be real and she knows she fucked up our chances with herthen we kiss her, comfort her, and Fade To Black
>>29765101I'll unfeel you, anon.
>>29765057>nico's element is heart>goes to try to figure out what her element is>casts spirit field>suddenly surrounded by piles of disembodied heartsfund it
>>29765142>Y-You made me do this>Now let's hope this sword doesn't break in action like the otherBad end?
>>29765191hahahahahahaha you have no idea
>>29765210She already knows, my guess is when she cast it the first time she turned into a magical girl
>>29765191like the completely hypothetical one about to kidnap Luciana?
>>29765219[Panic intensifies]
>>29765187Archie please, the proper response was "Who?"
>>29765133>>29765219Seconding this question
>>29765133Too many.Too far seeing as the quest is about 50% done and we only just got her to call the MC's name. And went down in rank.
>>29765298>seeing as the quest is about 50% doneWe're not even out of the prologue yet.
>>29765298too many is right. If we wanted her to see us as a person we'd have to devote every minute of time to her, and fuck that
>>29765298Still, dog and wolf must be pretty high, considering the first's relation with humans and the latter's strength and all that.
>>29765311>>29763330>Is around 50%, I think.
>>29763093You got on her good side but not on her Good Side if you know what I mean.>>29763104Think Sangoku Musou/Dynasty Warriors, only with people like Gregory as the PCs.>>29763125Cookies are fine but donuts are preferable.>>29763163This setting was created for a specific story, Princess Guard is technically just a sidestory itself.>>29763240Granache has rivers and lakes, but is otherwise landlocked. Marconetti has a large sea at its northern border.The continent's about as big as North America... I really ought to get around to making a map of it.
>>29765328>too manyWe practically jumped ranks early on.We were a bit stuck on dog, but we jumped to wolf.I think we're just a bit off from going back to wolf, and then we can expect maybe one more rank before human.
>>29765337Eh. Look at how long we were at dog for and it took a major event like the party to go up a rank. How many events like that you think will happen when we go back to the castle? Only chance we will have of improving the rank anytime soon is probably if another attempt is made on Luciana and Reinhold plays an important role in stopping it. Not likely to be the case though.
>>29765340That's a vast contradiction.Like before I'm pretty sure Archelon implied this would be going on for hundreds of threads.
>>29765340Damn I didn't realize we were that far ahead.
>>29765340>The joke------------------->Your head
>>29765366I like the sound of this.This makes it sounds you're planning things.you cocktease
>>29765366>This setting was created for a specific story, Princess Guard is technically just a sidestory itself....Well isn't that something.
>>29765311this entire Quest is the prolgueArch is going to to do a multigenerational set of quests starring Reinhold's descendants. This entire thing is a character and backstory generator, figuring out everything from what the weapon we start with does to our elemental affinity to starting location. It also generates our companions. For example, Nico and Melanie are pretty far along the way to canon, so I'll use them. They have Niklaus magic/science them a way to have a kid, who will have heart element, use lances, and be damn good at housekeeping
>>29765434He did say before that the setting was already made for something else.
>>29765366will this specific story be on /tg/ ever?
>>29765370>going back to wolfor we go to something besides wolf. i see the animal ranks more like a digimon evolution tree than a pokemon evolution line
>>29765470I guess, but I feel like there'd be a lot less shitstorms if it was understood from the start that the protagonist is a nobody and is going to stay that way, and be incapable of affecting anything in a meaningful fashion.So people wouldn't waste time trying to actually get good at things.
>>29765370People are also assuming it's a linear progression. It could be branched.
>>29765366>The continent's about as big as North America...But you said we were near the middle at one point, and now our capital is a day's travel from the capital of a coastal nation?
>>29765366Arch, can you talk a bit about the advancement rate for the ranks and how does it work?And dog was so stuck it was sad.>>29765495Possible, maybe something more noblemaybe Lion.Dog>Lion>ManWould this be viable?>>29765470I do hope he reveals more of it during the duration or releases a pdf about it.Or maybe does a follow up quest.
>>29765366>You got on her good side but not on her Good Side if you know what I mean.So, what, we should have just hung out with her more?
>>29765328>>29765337So after being wolf, we need to be something with brains or speech. Possibly a crow.Then we need to gain the right to have opinions.
>>29765541Flirted and actually acted attracted to her????
>>29765497I kind of feel the same way, but I don't feel this is accurate.We're on the PATH to becoming someone like gregory. Like say, in twenty years time or so. But I think I mentioned this when we were offered to learn magic: we're not going to be good at it overnight. And if this quest completes in any reasonable timeframe then we will always be dwarfed by the people around us unless something happens like we find a sealed king.
>>29765546Honestly, I think we need to have a nice long conversation with Marianne about her issues. Our snapping at her was completely at the wrong time for the wrong reasons, but she deserves to be called out
>>29765546>>29765531Reinhold, the Lion would be a pretty nice penultimate step to 'humanhood'
>>29765531>Dog>Lion>ManSnoop Man sounds like a cool superhero.
>>29765539He will never be as much of a whiny , passive aggressive bitch that you're being.
>>29765581And Reinhold was a rapper all along.>>29765576Maybe Arch will have an epilogue like ending."10 years later..."
>>29765529A large sea is not the same as a large ocean; it's perfectly reasonable that he could be referring to a large inland sea similar to the Caspian.
>>29765622That will be a highly anti-climatic ending if we don't get any decent growth during the quest and forever remain a child amongst titans.
>>29765576It seems like being able to beat Monique would be the only meaningful thing we'd be able to do in the entire quest.
>>29765622>Epilogue is a rematch with Monique
>>29765606What? Come on, that post is literally nothing but bitching. It's something that like a sullen kid would write when he doesn't get his way.>understood from the start that the protagonist is a nobody>going to stay that way>incapable of affecting anything in a meaningful fashion>So people wouldn't waste time trying to actually get good at things.
>>29765665>We lose again>20 more years later>Son of PGQ begins
>>29765578That clearly is not what Archelon wants, since "apologize to Marianne" evidently meant "sweep the whole thing under the rug and don't grow any closer to understanding each other".
>>29765648I don't mean don't have development in the quest.But maybe he also shows us the result of our choices in the future, like 10 years later Reinhold is a great swordsmage married to Mari/Luci/Nico/Sylvie/Tina/Rana/Sword
>>29765541Meanwhile in the basements of the loveless.
>>29765580We could reach Familiar/Pet Rank. People need a positive bond with a familiar, right?
>>29765689You mean daughter. It's 100% canon that Spinelle is Reinhold's time-travelling daughter.
>>29765658Well, Monique is in the same boat as us, he's on the path to greatness as wellIt just so happens that he skipped to the front of the power battle line>>29765683Because greentexting a strawman doesn't add to the conversation and is much more akin to fruitless bickering. He does have a point if he thinks that way and you should address it instead of trying to greentext an insult toward him and hope no one notices that you're being extremely hypocritical
>>29763285>So Nicolette's your favorite?One of them.>How popular are plays in the setting? Are they a common source of entertainment?Plays are popular, yes. There are cheap ones for poor folks and huge affairs with magical special effects for the richer crowd.>Which interpretations did you originally want for Citrine, and are you happy with the current interpretation for her (being our 'sister')?You went with what I was hoping you would.>How much are the other characters molded based on our input?The way that Agnes acts towards Reinhold is because of the way you decided to have him act towards her. Gregory actually likes you because you befriended his daughter.>>29763303dog, wolf, SPOILER
>>29765665That would be shit.
>>29765696oh I don't care if it gets Marianne pissed at us until the end of time, nor do I car if it Bad Ends us and sets us back a dozen threads. She needs to get called on her constant bitchiness, and with luck she'll yell some sense into Reinhold too. Then we can both hate each other but move on with our lives
>>29765746Cmon, but can you at least tell us how far we are in the rank?Please Arch?
>>29765746Nrxt one is obviously llama or alpaca.
>>29765758>hate each otherYeah no, yelling at someone is not how you get them to fix their issues.I agree to talking with her, and showing his support. Being comprehensive of her esteem issues and all, and maybe asking if she can help him with his.But being a douchebag? No go
>>29765734no, Spinelle is clearly the female manifestation of /tg/ sent back in time to cause Reinhold to be completely unable to deal with the prospect of romance. In other words, she's the time-traveling child of Monique
>>29765839>In other words, she's gender-bent Monique from the future.Fixed that for you.
>>29765746Will we be seeing a lot more action in the future? I like the quest as is and all but Luciana's attempted kidnapping and the suspense during the duel were honestly some of my favourite memories of the quest so far.
>>29765900>In other words, she's Monique from the future.Better
>>29765900>In other words, she's Monique from the future.Fixed that for you.
>>29765924>>29765926... You're right. My bad anon's.
>>29765920that's becasue things actually happened and plot moved forward
I just seem to find myself making up Sealed King profiles, messing with elements/magic, etc.. Everything else about this arc I'm not really paying attention to, anymore, but those things really piqued my interest.I'm kinda done with Reinhold (especially since he's not getting a Sealed King, so following him won't teach us much more about them); I'm looking forward to when this prologue is over and we move on to other characters. Really nice setting we've got, so far, it's very engaging.
>>29765964I... Kind of have to agree. Reinhold is just too plain when it comes down to it. He's a regular guy in a world full of things so much more interesting than him and in this quest, he's not going to grow to be much more than he is already.
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>>29766011Arch said not long ago Rein's on the path to become like Gregory, powerwise.
>>29765745No, he doesnt have a point, he has an opinion and a conclusion he jumped to based on insufficient evidence.The whole point is that he's crying because he thinks his grand power fantasy is in jeopardy
>>29766029Unless Rein somehow starts acing magic and spells better than sparkles, that's not going to happen in the quest.
>>29766029yes, but that doesn't mean the quest will last long enough for us to come anywhere close
Hey Arch, two questions:When do we get to bust some heads? We've only busted one so far and I would like to see Reinhold in a real combat situation. Totally not because I want to go down the Yandere route with our beloved MC.Does Reinhold (as an independent action sort of thing) have a crush on Marie? I mean the whole Lucianna smells like Marie thing during the dance read that way to me.
>>29766057>No, he doesnt have a point, he has an opinion and a conclusion he jumped to based on insufficient evidence.Not him but if the quest is halfway over, he has more than enough reason to think that way and it's your opinion that he isn't allowed to voice that.
>>29766078It seems like Archelon heard Cosgrove's advice and rejected it as hard as possible, especially if being able to beat Monique would have been the only meaningful accomplishment in the quest.
>>29766078We'd probably get more noticeable results faster if we could come to some sort of consensus on what to do ever.Even then, Power creep doesnt really seem to be the point of this quest.
>>29766147>Does Reinhold (as an independent action sort of thing) have a crush on Marie?that's up to us
>>29763381All the characters are my children and there aren't any that I hate.>>29763410Enchanted items are widespread, though rather expensive because putting a permanent enchantment on an object can expend a person's entire magical supply at once.As for the sword, it wouldn't be able to "add on" to the blade for the reasons I already stated last thread, but it MAY be able to change shape.>>29763492All routes except Melanie's are open at this point, though this will change in the immediate future. (read: the next week or so)>>29763537This.>>29763551That was the plan.>>29763558The material of the bracelet isn't strong enough to support that much weight.
>>29766178>All routes except Melanie's are open at this point, though this will change in the immediate future. (read: the next week or so)is this because a choice is actually coming, or because we already fucked up and plot is coming?
>>29766170Power creep isn't making our PC stronger. At least use the proper term.
>>29766178>Melon route is LOCKED OUTShit better start saving some kickstarter dollars for them stretch goals.
>>29766178Maid route forever denied. You suck /tg/.
>>29766178>Melanie was an optionThat's surprising.
>>29766178>All routesCan you list them?I mean, just so we don't get confused, 'not melanie' is pretty broad.>>29766173>>29766147Did he actually say that? I don't remember
>>29766178Oh my, routelocks are coming soonCould the shitstorm possibly reach the duel's level?And now I'm worried if we'll have enough time to reach human in the animal scale
>>29766178What closed meido rout?
>>29766236acknowledged, but you understood all the same.
>>29766147We clearly aren't competent enough to bust any heads worth busting.
>>29763839So did I, I wanted female knight route very badly.Then once we got into shy magic girl, then princess from foreign country, she got really back tracked. ]]didn't help that once she said she like the maid as well the /u/ boaters came like sharks on blood. I really wanted Nico route
>>29766178Will we have enough time to reach human?If we don't how can we lock on Marie?
>>29766261Nicolette calling dibs
>>29766261Probably the fact that we barely acknowledged her existence.
>>29766178>though rather expensive because putting a permanent enchantment on an object can expend a person's entire magical supply at once.Why would that make them expensive? Expending the whole supply doesn't have negative effects for the caster beyond not being able to cast until they get some rest. And people do it anyway to build up their strength.Unless you meant that they require more MP at once than the vast majority of people have. I could see that making them cost big money.
>>29766178I love you arch
>>29766257>Could the shitstorm possibly reach the duel's level?even more shit will rain>>29766261i think it's that we just never opened it. we always hung with nico and sylvie and spent very little time with melon
>>29766257goodyes, and moreso?
>>29766279Being a Nico fan is suffering, Anon. Gregory father-in-law would have been awesome.
>>29766178Go Nico Go! Even if we can't have Meido, you can still succeed! I believe in you!
>>29766261I don't think it's anything in particular, but the gradual evolution of things made it kind of hard.I mean, we can't really go in earnest knowing that we'd be NTRing Nicolette.As much as I love suffering and drama
>>29766279>>29763839>>29763753>>29763051>>29763922Fuck /u/
>>29766317If we go Luci route, we still get him as a cool uncle, with Nico and Meido as sisters in las
>>29766279>>29766317>all this past tense for NicoSink the /u/boats, we ain't done yet.
>>29766332No, go away. You will be the reason why I can't have either of those girls.
>>29766356Luci route won't happen. I've accepted it.>>29766350Agreed.
>>29766356I prefer Thierri as Father-in-law, Gregory is Thierri's cousin so he'll also be around.
>>29766240Don't even joke like that. Waifufaggotry is terrible. All the shitposts about waifus and metagaming to avoid getting on a specific route is just terrible. >>29766246I hope archelon doesn't. archelon needs to stop encouraging this kind of thinking, even if we may end up going for one girl.Archelon I know you hate "powergaming" (I think you're abusing the term by using it so broadly), but is it possible to become an extremely powerful badass without learning more magic or getting magical gear?
>>29766057You're still posting that strawman about wanting to actually accomplish things beyond choosing what woman makes the mistake of jumping on our dick.
I think most of the /u/ boaters would be okay with Nico route, but they just want her to have a shot at her first crush first.At last, that's how I feel.
>>29766380On the contrary, I think Luciana is in the lead because of that kiss and Reinhold's absence of a knee-jerk reflex to say "NO BAD". That said, I would not mind Luci, Nico, or Marie.
>>29766380I'm continuing to try and advocate for it, but I'm starting to lose hope. People really want to try and 'fix' Marianne
>>29766401You're in the minority.
>>29766380Don't give up faith, brother.
>>29766408Because we totally have to be in a relationship with her to try that.
>all these people complaining about /u/ boatsi want nico to end up with melon for the simple fact that she flat said she's interested in melon more than us. if nico had said she like another guy more than she liked us i'd want her to be with him. this is simply not getting in the way of someone's crush just because we want one of the people involved
>>29763598Without love, it cannot be seen.>>29763688>Well if that's the case then what does Gregory have that Arnaud does not besides youth?Gregory is much better at magic than Arnaud is. Arnaud is a much better sworder than everyone is.>>29763692Scrolls are only used up when the spell is successfully cast.>>29763776Perhaps I shall.
>>29766429people seem to think so
>>29766429Didn't you know? Only the MC's dick can solve mental problems. Anything else is only a temporary measure.
>>29766394Apparently Thieri did.The right question is "will we be able to accomplish anything meaningful before the end of the quest" which is a resounding "nope".Learning spells/swordsmanship is just another worthless hobby like track or chess club.
>>29766433No, you don't and you wouldn't feel that way if it was a dude. Evidence: /tg/'s jealousy/u/-boats can go to hell.
>>29766433Meh. Nico route won't happen just because no interest was really given to her. The fact we found out she was interested in maid means it will never happen.
>>29766450>>29766448>>29766429>>29766408I honestly want Marie as the love interest because I think she fits best and I like her personality the most. Plus she's doesn't throw herself into his arms after just meeting him.
>>29766293Certain enchantments can only be cast by people with lots of MP.And even when this isn't the case, being limited to one enchanting a day period really limits one's output.
>>29766382I kind of see Mari as a little sister of sorts, I like Luci but Slyvie felt kind of weak, I don't know why she just didn't stick to me as the others did (or the ones that like Rein) Nico was my favorite but everyone wanted a bro character and since she was a tomboy they settled for her until Takamaru showed up, then Kareal, I felt Nico got the short end of the stick and as much as I want to believe, I really doubt she'll win considering Slyvie and Luci fans are strong and the /u/ boaters really want to pair her up with the maid
>>29766484I think the strongest parties are Mari's and Luci's.I'd settle for Mari, Luci or Nico, but I dislike Sylvie a bit, as well.
>>29766480I honestly can't stand Marie at times. She claims Reinhold is her friend but she only ever acts like it when he's not around. Every day we have to tip toe our way around her to not make her mad lest we be classified as a worse animal. That's not a friendship.
>>29766480I honestly think Marianne's more like potential family than a love interestwe've acted like a big brother to her since day 1
>>29766480I disagree and think she's the most boring choice. 'Tsundere' girls just bore the shit out of me at this point because /tg/ always goes after them.
>>29766484The /u/boat is what finally sunk Nico's chances, because anyone can push the /u/boat option while still supporting another girl.
>>29766537Tomboy's never get love. Only closest now is Rana but she doesn't really fit it as well.
>>29766520That's part of the tsun thing. She's tougher around him, but secretly she cares deeply.The whole romancing her would involve breaking her shell.
>>29766484I agree with everything except Nico. I wanted her as the love interest until she said she liked Melanie more than us. If we tried to romance her after she told us something like that it'd be a real dick move
>>29766408>People really want to try and 'fix' MarianneBecause archelon was okay with the playerbase shift of waifu/haremfags, this kind of shit happened. Marianne is now a "tsundere" whose ice cold exterior they just want to melt.As much as archelon hates what he calls powergamers, we had 1 or 2 shitstorms about gear early on in the quest. Waifufags have metagamed like hell in trying to keep a specific waifu from winning.Archelon when we go back to Granache are we going back to the old routine? I don't think you should. It was appropriate early on to get us in the scene of being a bodyguard and everything, but alot of threads didn't really go anywhere. It wouldn't be good for pacing, basically.>>29766433>this is simply not getting in the way of someone's crush just because we want one of the people involvedNo, this is your crossboard /u/ faggotry. Your idea of "getting in the way" is Reinhold being interested in Nicolette and trying to hit it off with her. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?>>29766480Her personality is awful, and you probably think she just needs 'fixing'. Instead of throwing her arms at us, she needs to be ranked up. Whoop de doo.
>>29766482It also limits supply, driving up the price, and ensuring that enchanters get a good pay for a very small amount of work by making it impossible for anyone to out-produce them.These mechanics are nothing but positive for enchanters looking to make a living off of their abilities. It only negatively affects the consumers and enchantment researchers.
>>29766178Actually I want to take this time to declare a truce throughout PGQ. The next week is going to be tough for us so we need to stay together to keep this entire quest from falling apart, if nothing else we need to agree on one thing:Let's all agree that no matter whose waifu wins, or no matter who ends up being the true girl, that all of our tastes are valid and we respect each other for them. Agree?
>>29766506I like Nico as wellI'm okay with a Luci route but I still hoping for Nico. Mari is kind of like family so it's a little weird. I don't like Sylvie for some reason even early on she was given a lot of attention because she knew magicI was in the minority when at the time everyone thought she make a great bro character and people just focused on her. Maybe that's why I disliked her?
>>29766401Melon and Nico are my two favorites, hands down, but honestly I'm just happy we've got a chance to see them both happy without needing them to engage in the no-holds-barred deathmatch that is the Reinbowl. This should be a great thing for the Nico and Meido camps, because those characters can get their happy end without having to break all the other girls over their knee first.
>>29766559A dick move to whom? How is that dickish?
>>29766568No. I declare war on /u/
>>29766559No it wouldn't. She's interested with us, we haven't done anything with her. If we dated her, we could easily hit it off. Melanie hasn't even reciprocated, geez. I swear it's like some of you people haven't been in a relationship before.
>>29766555It's just annoying to me. I don't get why people like the whole tsun thing. Such a headache.
>>29766578"You like someone better than me? Well let's just see about that!"
>>29766608> I swear it's like some of you people haven't been in a relationship before.Just where the hell do you think you are?
>>29766562You're bitching at an abuse victim for being an abuse victim, while the player character has used it as an excuse for his behavior.You know damn well that Archelon isn't writing Marianne as an irredeemable bitch.
>>29766577It's not great for me in the Nico camp, because I want Nico.>>29766613That's not dickish. That is generally how trying to win someone's affection works.
>>29766562She's an abuse victim that has self-esteem issues.Maybe she actually does need healing.
>>29766577>Melon and Nico are my two favorites, hands down, but honestly I'm just happy we've got a chance to see them both happy without needing them to engage in the no-holds-barred deathmatch that is the Reinbowl.>This should be a great thing for the Nico and Meido campsPlease archelon. Do a quest without waifufaggotry. This is simply unbearable. Do you see this kind of thought process some of the posters have when they play your quest? This is unbearable.
>>29766578alright let's put this in real life termsYou are bicuriousyou tell one of your female friends you have a bit of a crush on them, but really like this one guy.they then sabotage your chances with this guy to try and date youexplain how that is not a dick movenow, if Nico and Melanie don't work out, that's fine and we can try to get together with her. but not now
>>29766612because of the "challenge."
>>29766613You realize Arch himself said that it's probably a phase she's going through, right? That's how it's viewed in the world at large.And while that may not be entirely true, if it wasn't true, she would have long since made a move on her, having a girly crush for years and years to come past that point isn't going to make her a happy personShe was barely a happy person BEFORE we met her.
>>29766608But Nico's had this crush for years.Whereas she just came out with it to us.Something in that makes me feel like she really cares about Meido, /u/ or not.
>>29766559That's because we focused on Slyvie very early on because of magic.I felt if we did the oppsitie i imagined that Slyvie will be saying the samething, then again she's not a tomboythe tomboy never gets any love.
>>29766577The tomboy almost never gets to be the main heroine. I wanted to have Nico get to be the pretty, sought after waifu. Shoving her together with the maid and calling it a happy end would not satisfy me in the least.
>>29766632She needs a friend, not a boyfriend.
>>29766623>You know damn well that Archelon isn't writing Marianne as an irredeemable bitch.So what? That doesn't excuse the fact she's a bitch right now and some of us don't want to bother jumping through the hoops in "fixing" the tsundere so she'd be deredere.
>>29766178>>29766577QUICK ARCHELON, ERABE!1. Zepar2. Furfur3. Both
>>29766645If we sabotaged her relationship with Melanie you'd be right. But, using your example, if the female friend said she was interested back and tried to get closer? Not a dick move.
>>29766669exactly, if we try and get with her, It would feel like we were doing the exact same thing as Asshole Guard tried to do before he was rejected.
>>29766645It's not a dick move because they are not Mentok the Mind Taker. If I decide to date them because they made an appeal, that's not sabotage, that's called making a move.
>>29766664Agreed. But it doesn't really matter since the maid is clearly in a secret relationship with someone else.
>>29766664Agree, I was hoping for that route when she was first introduced but again shy magic girl...I might skip this week because of the ensuing storm.
>>29766669How are those mutually exclusive?I've met a couple that got together after one of them helped the other through a difficult time (it was depression), and through overcoming that hardship together they found love.Are you saying what they did was bad?
>>29766664Agreed anon. I had hope at one time the tomboy might win but not gonna happen now that /u/ saw the NicoXMelanie thing.
>>29766642We're not a prize, we're a fucking joke. Maybe if they're apart from us, Nico and Melanie might be able to suck less and have a meaningful part in the real quest.Since this whole thing is just a ridiculous bait and switch visual novel.
>>29766645If Melanie and Nico were dating, you would have a pointMelanie doesn't even know that Nico has a crush on her. This isn't going to help.
>>29766632she's an abuse victim which means she is in no way ready for a relationship. People who are sexually abused need months to years of counseling, and this whole incident was a couple of months ago. If Marianne is a love interest before the end of the Quest and there hasn't been at least a year of time skip, it will only end in tears because she will still be emotionally damaged
>>29763841The spy kid was meant to have a larger role once you got to Marconetti, but his time has passed.There were some more people at the party that you could have met, but that dragged on way longer than I wanted as it was.>>29763866She has her father's talent in learning magic, but she's still a little girl.She is NOT stronger than Reinhold. At all.>>29763934I honestly don't know.>>29763978[redacted]>>29764044>How far does the recent history go back to? Several thousands of years.What existed before Granache was established for example?>How old is the continent at this point?Millions of years.>Also were there any events of major note before the Sealed Kings event since that seems like this settings epoch divider (like BC to AD)?Lots and lots and LOTS.Like how the prince of a certain kingdom ended up summoning a freshly-reborn phoenix as his familiar, then proceeded to fight in several wars until finally falling in battle. His phoenix familiar then somehow sacrificed itself to revive him and caused him to gain its powers, including resurrection......but that's a story for another day.
>>29766664Agreed fucking /u/
>>29766645I'm failing to see how any of this is a dick move. Outside of the completely loaded term of "sabotage", there's nothing wrong with trying to win someone's affection, even if they like someone else. It would be different if there was some sort of committed relationship going on, but there isn't.
>>29766480I'd like Marie if not simply for the post choice marriage thing.>Reinhold why did you choose me over Lucianna or Sylvie?>I'm your bodyguard, this is the most effective way to ensure your safe from threats both foreign and domestic.>...what?>Yep.I'd enjoy the route lock-in for Nicolette>Hey Reinhold>Hello Sir Gregory>You're marrying my daughter.>O-okay...>You will also produce grandchildren>Y-yes sirOr the Lucianna surprise wedding.>Hey Reinhold my dad declared that we are married today>I'm okay with this.Or Sylvie true end.>awaken with a stabbing pain in our stomach and weight on our legs>"We'll be together Reinhold... foooorrrreeevvvveeerrr">Our sword was run through us with no effort>Sylvie slits her throat and we bleed out together
>>29766726And we're not emotionally damaged as well?If you guys think it's possible for the right bitch sucking our dick to let us get through all our problems, then it goes both ways.
>>29766702nobut us doing literally the same thing as the douche guard is not good for her mental stateplatonic is the right thing to do here
>>29766664Agreeing with this. It just makes Nico into a butch dyke instead of a tomboy.
I can honestly understand each girl's appeal, and I won't really be disappointed no matter who wins - but I gotta admit, I don't get this whole "dick move to prevent nico from seeking out her crush" thing.Like, seriouslyIt's one thing to use mind control, or to suddenly start romancing meido, but if we (hypothetically) showed romantic interest in Nicolette, and she willingly reciprocated, how is that in any way dickish?Imagine that we weren't all spergs on /tg/ at 1am 4chan time, and invert the situation with you having crushes on two people of your preferred gender, one stronger than the other, but both still pretty strong.
>>29763866>magic>greater than mundane weaponI dunno, we held up pretty good against Monique's sealed king. If it had been a normal magic blade like Karel's I reckon we'd have won it.
>>29766733Every single piece of history that you say about this setting is more interesting than this quest you're created.So I must ask. Why in the world did you decide to run -this- as the quest in your setting? WHY.Also, if you produced a set of history and magic-science books for this world, I would totally buy them.
>>29766733Oh wow. That phoenix story sounds awesome. When was the last major conflict for Granache? Also who was it against?And what happened?
>>29766707>>29766743>Decide to let Nico foster a long held crush on someone instead of stepping in >Somehow this is solely the act of /u/I would have done the same thing if meido was a boy.It's not 'shoving together' if she really feels it for her, and it was nice to see a potential romance subplot outside of reinhold.
>>29766726>>29766780They're both abuse victims.Maybe they can help each other, build their friendship even more, and then one day after going through all that and growing out of their issues together they realize they care about each other... more than just as friends.Beautiful, in my opinion, and not at all close to the guard deal
arch, is it possible to get alt epilogues for each waifu, so that people can actually reach consensus?
archelon, this isn't a question but I just wanted to say that I appreciate you.
>>29766805>set of history and magic-science books for this world>Nice old time-y pages, leather covers, 20 of each book in totalDid someone just say $200 donation reward?
>>29766805Because /tg/ only plays quests about waifus.
>>29766827You're right, it's not just /u/. It's also a great way to off a rival in the great waifu wars.
>>29766829I would be completely satisfied with that so long as he wrote one for Monique
>>29766827>I would have done the same thing if meido was a boy.Then you were never for the Nico route.
>>29766827If she really felt it for her, she wouldn't feel anything for Reinhold. The fact she's does means she's unsure. Had we shown interest in her, I would be willing to bet Reinhold would be her first interest.
>>29766829That's what the VN's for
>>29766853Monique mellows out, lives for a few hundred years, and then ascends to live on with his sword waifu
>>29766829Seems like a cop out.
>50% of a quest>100 threadHave we done anything on this fucking quest? From defending the princess to just hanging about, Rein could not be the princess guard and it be nearly the same shit except no girls lusting the dick of the replacement.Also Magic beats Swords cause sword users can't fucking fly and spam magic.
>>29766879I meant one with Reinhold and Monique. Together. In a relationship.
>>29766828Seems lame, in my opinion.
Here's a few questions. Are most adventurers monsters of combat? Like how does say Reya fair against most adventurers? Also how large is the power gap between half-dragons and full?
>>29766878If arch actually kickstarts this as a VN I'll throw all my money at him>>29766828This
>>29766805I imagine that Reinhold's story would sound pretty cool summarized up in the adventure quest.>Guy duels his rival. Rival pulls a sealed king outta nowhere. Guy starts laughing and making Ice-puns. Manages to inflict equal or worse injury upon the rival before passing out and losing thanks to rules-technicality bullshit.It really does sound kinda cool when you divorce yourself from all the bullshit that's happened in here.
>>29766873That's not how attraction works outside of Church Sermons, matey.
>>29766805Think of it like Familiar of Zero.Great setting, great potential. What do you have? Retarded harem antics, creepy otaku manchildren as the fanbase to support it. archelon is just trying to emulate his favorite japanese writers.
>>29766867I wouldn't mind it, but as I said it was an interesting development.>>29766873Or that she has a problem telling people secrets, as canonically stated.We came in and forced it out of her.And it's possible to have attraction for more than one person. Not to mention she explicitly stated we're the number 2 crush.But, I want to see that develop, and you want to see her relationship with Reinhold develop.It's just a matter of taste.
>>29766888Well apparently Arnauds pure swordness outswoles Gregorys magic so there is that.
>>29766873that is a completely unrealistic train of thought
>>29766913No, instead it's apparently a dick move to show interest in someone even if they're interested in someone else. God forbid they decide to say no to your interest or anything.
>>29766888>Have we done anything on this fucking quest?Yes, we have. Just because you don't care about the things we have done (instead of going out murderhoboing or whatever) doesn't mean we've done a lot of stuff.
>>29766925>It's just a matter of taste.Because you are a /u/boat or pursuing another route and are interested in sinking someone else.
>>29766888As much as it is a joke, DnD 3.5E would be perfect if you houserule magic to conform to PGQ a bit. It has the exact same trappings of Fighters v. Wizards, and Fighters only get ahead by learning magic and getting magic gear.
>>29766733>ended up summoning a freshly-reborn phoenixHow do familiar summonings work, exactly?"Freshly-reborn" implies that it takes the familiar summoned from a particular point in time and space, and "summoning" implies that it doesn't just bind a specific entity that you have chosen in advance.Is a summoning based on elemental affinity/potential? Reagents used during the summoning and/or the specific wording of the Script used in the summoning? Does it just transport the creature through space when it is summoned, or does it summon a creature from a set point in time as well?Has there ever been any documented instance of a familiar summoning 'stealing' a creature that another person had laid claim to in another way? (e.g. someone's pet, or even a familiar to someone either less powerful or less suitable than the person performing the second summoning?) Or are there protocols in place to keep people from binding a familiar that already has attachments of a sort?Are sentients permitted to be summoned as familiars? If not, what would result if a summoned creature was on the verge of a soul ascension, and underwent it after having been bound as a familiar?
>>29766828That just seems incredibly cliche and boring. Just because two people are trying to help each other doesn't mean that they have to suddenly fall in love with each other.
>>29766928Arnaud has magic, he just swords moreGregory magics more than sword
Are Nicolas, Arnaud and Celestino all the same age roughly?
>>29766896>date a girl who only knows him for a few days and has a crush for no reason>date a girl that has a 'puppy love' for him and has been like that since they met>date a girl that sees Reinhold as a second option and clearly wants someone else moredepth and sense = lame
>>29766929How so? If she was really all for Melanie, it wouldn't matter if someone else came along. She'd pursue her no matter what. The fact Reinhold came along and within a few months, is already someone she's interested in despite having a thing for Melanie for years should say something.
>>29764319This is not the only thing I will be using this setting for.>>29764383Was considering doing this.>>29764705It is not.>>29764778The call of the waifu is strong.>>29764787Nothing. They're still bound to whatever their contract happened to be (if its conditions were lasting, anyways), and they keep the power they obtained.>>29764801Succubi will not be appearing in this quest.I am well aware of /tg/'s tendencies.
>>29766908Really? If anything I'd say it makes the defeat sting even more, knowing that it was our ONLY chance to do something people could remember.
>>29766974Yeah I know was just showing that it wasn't as clear cut as just Magic>Sword.Not saying we should pursue pure sword. That's been shown to be stupid
Archelon, I have a serious questionIs there anything about this quest that you regret?
>>29766996If you were aware of /tg/'s tendencies, the shitstorms in this quest would not have got to the level they did.
>>29766996Yeah you already answered that question by now.So we're meant to see it as the adventures of a caged pet.
>>29766972this is my basic reason for not wanting Mari. I can see her as a friend, or family, but not love interest. Plus I think she'd still be pretty volatile if she wasn't sexually abused
>>29766917so arch is going to die before the quest ends
>>29766985>date a girl who considered you as more of an animal instead of a person.but muh true route.
>>29767007Hah. Arch cannot control dozens of people with minds of their own. Sorry.
>>29766963No, I just prefer that course of action.Like I said, it'd be the same if meido was a boy. I'm not all that interested in any girl over the other, i'm just going with the flow.
>>29767001Welp.Rein better start painting now for the rest of his life. Maybe after he is dead, his painting will have be more valuable and historical than dueling.Cause that the only way from Rein to be even fucking remembered in history from now on.
>>29767038Explainable in character due to her attempt to lower others to hide her esteem issues.Better than >"Oh I love you instantly for no real reason, marry me">"Reinhold-senpai, please notice me" and >"Yeah Reinhold, I like her more but I suppose you'd do as well"
>>29767039I'm not even talking about the shitstorm over which girl people want to win. I'm just talking about things like letting Reinhold actually seem like a threat to people in the setting or letting him grow stronger. This is /tg/. How could you not let them tweak gear and such or flat out say "I have fancy items in this setting. You are never getting one. Enjoy."
>>29766985the first one is potentially legit, same with the second. Unlikely but possible to work out. Being an obvious second option though? Red flag. It'll always be there in the back of your head
>>29766996You know archelon you should really avoid it. Waifufags have done more damage to this quest when playing Reinhold than anyone else, and Waifu/harem fags are inherently a divisive playerbase.
>>29767048I don't believe you, honestly, because it serves literally no purpose to do so without an ulterior motive.
>>29767082>>29767093I just detected 2 cliches and 1 red flag.Is Marianne 'soooo' cliché now?
>>29767082I believe Marie's strawman greentext would be >"Stupid Reinhold. I-its not like I wanted to date you or anything"
>>29767082>>29767093People's feelings change.
>>29767082Are you seriously saying none of the others can be explained away?
>>29767001Only thus far. Rein still has hundreds of years left if he keeps up with magic.
I feel like this thread has been cathartic.
>>29767116When someone thinks of you equal to a dog or a pet, don't try to get them in a relationship with you.Cause it will not end well.
>>29767118Wanna see Tina's?>"..."
>>29767082The others crushes are explainable in character as well. Starshadow or some other namefag did pretty good write ups as to their reasons for them.>>29767116>tsundere princess falling for idiot bodyguardyep, seems pretty cliche to me.
>>29767076No. There"ll be a timeskip epilogue where Reinhold has become a very powerful swordmage and is married to his waifu, or becomes a powerful swordmage and goes adventuring with his waifu.
>>29766996I think romance is fine, but /tg/ is very eggshell about all things waifu.
>>29767133Of course, but have we seen any literal translation of the guard ranking from Marianne's perspective besides Reinhold's voted 'woof' every now and then? I like to think of it as just a ranking system based on how willing she is to put up with the guy.
>>29767142So basically, every one of them is a cliché, except Nico who simply takes Rein as a # crush?
>>29764947This is entirely possible.>>29765029>How much research has been done into exactly how magic operates, anyhow? Is all the talk about "the world" treating things one way or another just like saying "here's how "the world" treats gravity, chemistry, etc."?It's said that magic is speaking the language of god to write in the book that is the world itself.Laws of physics are not classified in the same way that the views of "the world."Examples of the latter include that the world does not acknowledge ownership through theft, or one living thing owning another (this includes plants). Sealed Kings are only considered ownable because "the world" sees them as objects and not living entities.As for your second question, no. That wouldn't work for various reasons.
I wish we could keep drawing pictures of Nico forever
>>29767144And tg had absolutely nothing to do with that.For fuck sakes, if it ends like that, might as well just write it as fiction and not a quest.
>>29767116yes. There being other cliches doesn't make hers any less cliched-hell, it's still the worst of all of them. Sylvie's probably got an actual reason for liking us we could ask her about and Luciana's mentioned to Marie at least a few of the things she likes about us.Marianne is every other tsundere character, only she decided we aren't actually a person
>>29766757Or the crazy neckbeard end?>Bang golem>Fight golem>Do stupid shit with Niklaus>Learn all the magics>The girls leave us alone
>>29767131I think that's exactly why Archelon ran itAnd I applaud him for it. This is what people have been asking for and he went and gave the posters what they want.Thank you Archelon, no matter what happens with the quest, I will always respect you for going out of your way to do this for us instead of mocking us like *OTHER QMS* tend to do.
will we ever play/read "the adventures of Matthias in fluffy tails land" ?
>>29767144and said waifu will never be name, only referred to with pronouns and having no dialouge
>>29767133>>29767154I believe in this as well.She doesn't actually think of him as those, it's part of her coping tools, yeah, but it's partially a game mechanic.
>>29767184I honestly don't think he had anything planned with MathiasIf anything, he will be mentioned in the next quest Arch runs as a character of interest.
>>29767182Those are some fukken anime eyes right there.Looks like somebody hollowed out her eye sockets and filled them with jello.
>>29767167This, holy shit.We can't change anything. This would work infinitely better as a story instead of a quest.
>>29767126I said our chances, not Reinhold.Like within the quest itself, it was our one chance to do something other than worthless faffing about.And we weren't even allowed that.
>>29767154several times actually. The most recent was during the duel when she told us to back down because "even wolves know when they can't win"
>>29767122What! No one, ever, in the entire course of human affairs, has decided they actually liked someone else more than their pre-existing crush! It would be completely unprecedented for a woman to go with a partner who actively pursues them rather than to hold on to an unrequited crush forever!No, we must respect Nicolette's undying love for the meido, since her crushes can clearly never flicker or waver since she's never ever had another one.
>>29767222That bitch don't know wolves.
>>29767184Mathias is obviously the self-insert.
>>29767167>>29767217This was billed as largely social interaction from the beginning.I don't really know why it took you 100 threads to figure it out.
>>29767222>figure of speechdoesn't mean she literally views him as a wolf
>>29767157>Sealed Kings are only considered ownable because "the world" sees them as objects and not living entities.Does this mean slavery is magically impossible in your world?
>>29767215You don't understand dadit's moeNot that a baka gaijin like you would
>>29767222Figure of speech, dude. Also Arch being facetious with the meta most likely.
>>29767247archelon, if there are fox girls, does that mean there are dog girls?
>>29767182I guess this is cathartic in the sense that halfway through the quest he's telling everyone that they're fools for thinking that they'd ever do anything meaningful beyond medieval high school antics.Could have strung them on longer with them waiting for "the good part" until the end of the quest.
>>29767245like i said, that was the most recent. There have been several others. Luciana also implied that Marianne actually sees us like an animal back when she told her she had a crush on us
>>29767247>dog daysseason 1 was okay but i was disappointed in season 2. there was no real threat or challenge besides just play wars. even when they brought out the demon king guy he was just a pervert that was instantly put in line
>>29767184I would kill for a Matthias in Fluffland sidestory/full quest/whatever. He's the hero that Kinsen needs, deserves, and wants.
>>29767260I applaud you for making me reply; kindly return to QTG if you have nothing relevant to contribute besides your bitter opinions.
>>29767260I don't usually like gymnastics, but watching you jump through mental hoops is pretty funny.
How are the fish?
>>29767246i guess that magically, yeshumanly? no. and there's a kingdom to prove it.
>>29767260>past thread 100>stringing along
>>29767182Arc mocks his players all the time in irc, dumbass.
What is your relationship with your sister arch?
>>29767260I don't mean to be offensive but....Stop bitching. Archelon already hates us "powergamers". To be fair, the post-duel stuff did help settle the (IC) bullshit that happened in the duel. It just took a while for archelon to get to it.Archelon has actually said repeatedly he doesn't mind (and has even encouraged) waifufags but hates "powergamers".
>>29767292Matthias unlocked the harem end before he even left for Kinsen. Bitches gonna love his ocarina. And he's got some pretty good musical talents
>>29767321Siblings.
>>29767306tastes like chicken.
>>29767285The way she mentioned it, even calling it cute, reminds us it's just a teenager girl doing teenager girl things. She doesn't think people are really below her, but she does pretend that since lowering others is the only way to cope with her view of herself.Many threads made it clear she thinks of herself really, really lowly. Animal Scale is just her way of putting people on her level.
>>29767246Mundane slavery is possible, but trying to use a spell to call a runaway slave back to you will never work.
>>29767306They're alright. I've had better.
>>29767317>All the timeDo you just sit in there and just wait for QMs to say something out of context so you can run to QTG and post it?
>>29767351I don't even think they sit there anymore. Way easier to just make shit up.
>>29767292well we might get something like Monique or Elena Mode later
>>29765133That is a secret.>>29765136She would indeed.>>29765142Luciana is a dainty little flower, she would never do such a thing.>>29765479It's intended to be a comic, so no.>>29765531It's a linear progression.>>29765541You hung out with her and did bro things, while also spending a lot of time with Sylvie. This caused her to back off because she would never get in the way of her best friend's love life.Sylvie would do the exact same thing for Nicolette as well.>>29765529>>29765637This, it's an inland sea.
>>29767323Which is why I don't get why we weren't just hired to be the Princess's butler, since he seems to hate swordsmanship and magic in any way beyond telling us how much cooler other people can be and we'll never be allowed to become.We got our position through swording and our job is to protect the princess in a high magic setting. And yet actually getting good at any of those things is powergaming, and we only got one actual fight in the quest, which we weren't allowed to win.
>>29767369alright, just so we are all in agreement so it actually happensMatthias gets fluffy tails, preferably the queen's 26 year old sister for delicious Christmas cake
>>29767370Could you clarify once and for all the extent that this quest will go to, so that people who are still up in the air about what they want can either stay or leave?
>>29767386The only ways to 'win' were to get multiple crits or give up before the sword broke. We got the worst result from the duel for trying to win without getting the crits we needed.
>>29767386Arch, in this very thread, mentioned two other ways that the dual could have eneded, one of them being us winning.
>>29767386>This guy shitting out garbage quality bait>People keep biting>>29767409>>29767411Stop. You're right, but stop.
>>29767292When he's around, it's always mating season.
>>29767370>You hung out with her and did bro things, while also spending a lot of time with Sylviebecause the only options were to hang out wit her AND sylvie...the only times they were separated were when we sparred
>>29767370You're talking about the animal ranks when you say linear progression, right?
>>29767411You mean one sentence summaries anyone with basic logic could write?
>>29767157>ZA WARUDOAre there any particular branches of magic that consider those abiding by the views of the world? Given that Script is viewed by at least some parties as semi-divine, I could imagine that there could easily be a group bent on enforcing the "rules" that the mortal world sort of glosses over (even down to something as silly as how houseplants are a legal thing, for example.) I dunno, like some sort of penitent order charged with punishing those who have defied the natural order in a specific way in order to atone for something they themselves did to defy it? Just random speculative shit, but still mite b cool.>As for your second question, no. That wouldn't work for various reasons.b-but... muh mad science!>>29767336If this is the case, how are familiars handled? If you can recall a familiar to you via magic, does that mean that a familiar contract is considered a two-way street? I'm not sure how the summoned creature is intended to consent to a summoning, unless it's some weird thing where "the world" also entreats the creature to be summoned on your behalf before permitting the binding.
>>29767369is there a source for that cat girl, google gives me nothing
>>29767370>You hung out with her and did bro things, while also spending a lot of time with Sylvie. This caused her to back off because she would never get in the way of her best friend's love life.Did we ever get a chance to be alone?I think the ONLY time that ever happened was when we went completely off the rails and suggested crazy things like baking cakes at her house at night without telling her. Was that the only way to get more time with her?
>>29767462My first thought was Legend of Queen Opala, but I don't think there was a loli in that.
Arch, this thread has served its purpose and is now just adding paranoia and speculation to peoples already twisted shadowruns, its just going to cause more shitstorms when things don't go as people expected when the inevitable (and very near apparently) route lock happens, I hope your prepared to a massive flood of leaving players once that happens
>>29767480Honestly after those duel threads, I think we could stand to have a smaller playerbase.
>>29767480Here's hoping the shitposters drop the quest then too.
>>29765920There will be more action, yes.>>29766147He does not have a crush on Marianne.But Luciana and Marianne do use the same soaps and the like, which is why they smell similar to each other.this was decided very early on, but I can not for the life of me figure out why the hell I did>>29766235Plot reasons.>>29766243I stated this a long time ago.>>29766261You simply didn't spend all that much time with her.
>>29767475I'm actually kind of curious about this applying to all the girlsI mean, how many of these have we missed? Are they extremely obvious romance flags or did we fuck yourselves over by not exploring and playing it safe?
>>29767480I hope a couple dozen players abandon ship. This quest has already reached critical mass.
>>29767475As far as I remember, there was a lot of "SHE'S GOTTA BE OUR BRO" back then, so I don't think there really WAS a push for hanging out with her specifically, since we got that base level pretty easy.>>29767480>implying the All-Girls-Are-Best-Girls-fags aren't the eternal master-racethere's way too many people here, and if this gets way smaller, there's gonna be less people replying to shitposts
>>29767411Which was:>Forfeiting (no, we can not read Arc's notes to know Karel would try to prevent us at the last second)>Getting ridiculously good rolls since the fight was made to be stacked against us.That doesn't really refute who you're responding to, and even then that's just one half of the entire post.
>>29767519>this was decided very early on, but I can not for the life of me figure out why the hell I didSuch things are important, can't write a story without the little details. After all, girls wouldn't spend so much GOD. DAMN. TIME. AND. MONEY. on fancy soaps and perfumes if they didn't care about how they smelled.
>>29766178>All routes except Melanie's are open at this point, though this will change in the immediate future. (read: the next week or so)are we able to know which routes are closing?if we can't know, can we know if we are we able to stop them from closing?
>>29767480Route lock was a guaranteed way for this quest to lose players. Once the samefagging clears up, people will leave that their waifu wasn't picked and then others will take up a vendetta to try to ruin stuff for others. This is the downfall of any quest that gets too popular.
>>29767519How are the marine ecosystems? Any cool fish?
>>29767519This is a weird question, and I'm not sure if I should ask this, but the mention of them using the same soaps made me think of it.Have they got that weird psychic link thing goin' on that women have after spending a lot of time together? Y'know, where their periods sync up.
>>29767519Will there be a thread tomorrow?Also, how much longer can you stay here with us, you handsome turtle?
>>29765920>the suspense during the duelIt may have been hard on archelon, and steeped in constant shitstorm, but that night was fucking intense, the most so I've ever had in a quest. It beat even the illustrated classics from the old days, nostalgia goggles and all.
>>29767519Session after this 404s or should I just go now?
>>29767583You don't want to see the girls when there's a full moon
>>29767583but they don't spend lots of time together. before luci's visit to granache it had been over a year since they saw each other
>>29767537>implying Forfeiting at any of the various stages of the duel wouldn't actually be entirely different outcomes (At Setsuranka's reveal, after our hand got stabbed, after Monique got back up, etc) with different connotations for the duel>leaving out that Karel was going to come out regardless of what we did, and is therefore irrelevant as to whether we knew about it or not>implying we're bad at swording, Monique's insides were silly-putty and we'd have wiped the floor with him if his sword wasn't a demigod>implying we haven't gone from "how do i magic" to actually knowing some shit and even having a minor heal spell within less than two months>implying you aren't a shit>implying I'm even that guy, you're just so wrong i had to jump on the hook
>>29766394It is possible, yes.>>29766562There will be a bit of the old routine, though it won't be exactly the same.>>29766565Eeeeeexactly.>>29766568You're doing God's work.>>29766682I prefer the bunnies.
>>29767583What the fuck is up with that? Can I use vaginal wifi to surf 4chan?
>>29767478Puzzles and Dragons doujinhttp://exhentai.org/g/614834/c26a6ba689/
>>29767649>I prefer the bunnies.Hmm.... acceptable.
>>29766568Sure. I'll try to remember that buddy.
>>29767649hey Arc can you tell us a bit about some other nations like is their a NotHRE
>>29767642It's not that we're bad at swording, it's that swording itself is bad.
>>29767440why is Nureha so fluffy
>>29767642Really? You're >implying instead of actually responding to what I say? >>implying Forfeiting at any of the various stages of the duel wouldn't actually be entirely different outcomes (At Setsuranka's reveal, after our hand got stabbed, after Monique got back up, etc) with different connotations for the duel>leaving out that Karel was going to come out regardless of what we did, and is therefore irrelevant as to whether we knew about it or notThat's entirely meta speculation at the time of the duel, so it doesn't change anything. >implying we're bad at swording, Monique's insides were silly-putty and we'd have wiped the floor with him if his sword wasn't a demigod >>implying we haven't gone from "how do i magic" to actually knowing some shit and even having a minor heal spell within less than two monthsNot implying that. Strawman with your implying harder. Can >implying even be called a strawman? You're responding to what you "really think" I meant when I posted. >implying you aren't a shit>implying I'm even that guy, you're just so wrong i had to jump on the hookQuality posting overall.
>>29767649>I prefer the bunnies.inaba confirmed for arch's favorite character>>29767657thank you
>>29766562>Marianne is now a "tsundere" whose ice cold exterior they just want to melt.Err.. that's what we believed her to be from the very beginning. If anything, she's evolved BEYOND that rank after the reveal that her icy exterior is a result of being an abuse victim with major self-esteem issues.
>>29767740I don't think people quite understand what tsundere means now, compared to what it used to mean.
>>29767740"We" as in who? Because I didn't. I don't think she ever was a tsundere, it's just that some waifufags want her because they think she is one.
>>29767722Because she's the best.
>>29767740And that treats others as 'animals' only to hide her own concerns when she actually doesn't really view other people like that.
>>29767771She gives off all the signs of tsun.
>>29766805I got the base idea for Princess Guard in my head and decided to plug it into this setting and then ran it here because hey why not.And then things kind of exploded.>>29766824Maybe twelve or so years ago, there was a mercenary army that was stirring up shit near the southwest borders.Vincent, Gregory and the army took care of it, and this solidified their reputations in the eyes of the public.Gregory is VERY good against multiple human opponents.>>29766829What do you mean, like what happens with each cast member after the end?>>29766831Thank you.>>29766904>Are most adventurers monsters of combat? No, that's just the bigshots.>Like how does say Reya fair against most adventurers?Reya is fairly skilled, around the same level as Reinhold. He's not as good at killing stuff, but his defense is much better. This is enough to get most jobs done.>Also how large is the power gap between half-dragons and full?Not that large at Rana and Reya's age, but it gets exponential as they get older.
>>29767740>>29767771basically this. That said, the abuse victim and self esteem issues are why I think those waifuing her really need to not
>>29767649Hey Archelon, whats your opinion of all the fan art for PGQ?
>>29767722who
>>29767860Where all the fan art anyway? It was fucking booming in the first threads, where the drawfags at?
>>29767833But you won't complain if that option wins, right?Or if any other routes that you disagree to win, for that matter.That should be our main concern I think, I'll be cool with whatever's voted, I hope you guys are willing to do the same.
>>29767830I think he's talking about something along the lines of "How would Rein's life be if he ended up with ______". That way people who wanted to end up with different girls would get a bit of closure.
>>29767722>>29767776Incidentally, the current powerlevel of Reinhold & Friends reminds me a little bit of Scrub Horizon.And just to clarify, that isn't a complaint, the Scrub Horizon bits were my favorite parts of the last arc (except maybe NEET Princess, but her bits were short).I want to go dungeon diving with our friends. Just once.
>>29767882no, I'm not going to complain. Once we routelock, any complaining just serves to fuck up the thread and cause rage. I am going to make arguments until then, though. Hopefully they actually make sense to other people and don't just sound like an eloquent version of "your waifu a shit"
>>29766970I've explained this a loooooooong time ago, but I have no idea which thread.Familiar summoning works at the time of the bond forming, in which the caster calls a nonhuman entity to them with the same elemental affinity with less magical capacity than them.The spell is designed to call whatever is "most fitting" to the caster.In this particular instance, the prince summoned a baby phoenix that just happened to have reborn shortly before he cast the spell. Everything concerning this process is in present time, there is no time fuckery involved.And no, you can't steal another person's familiar.The reason why it's not done anymore is because dragon babies would occasionally get ganked, and that's kind of fucked up when you consider that dragons are people too in this sertting.
>>29767878There was that Marianne sculpture few threads back.
>>29767916>don't just sound like an eloquent version of "your waifu a shit"Haha. Well alright then, I disagree with your view on Marianne, but what you said in this post is pretty much spot on, whatever route is voted there's no point in ruining the thread.Let's keep PGQ clean of that kind of crap.
>>29767906at least she had many great reaction images
>>29767906Rein reminds me a bit of Krusty except without glasses, not that smart, and without the deliberate political maneuvering.Actually nevermind I clearly didn't think this one through.
>>29767771"We" as in everyone back during the very first two or three threads when everyone was outright calling it in advance that we were gonna get a tsun-princess to guard. If you didn't think she was, then you didn't express it at all during that time period, so you can't exactly complain that your perspective wasn't counted.
>>29767949Are we going to revisit the Spinelle issue anytime soon? I feel like that needs to happen before the waifu wars truly begin.
>>29767977I'm just uncomfortable trying to waifu Marianne because than we would be doing exactly what the previous guard had been doing.
>>29767830So that Gregory Musou Game comes out after the VN, right?
>>29767833Think is, I'd be happy if we romanced her as a result of a naturally progressing relationship between the two, grown out of friendship.I would find that romance option to be far more valuable than that of the other girls' routes.And I don't want us to "fix" her, for that matter. If anything I'd want us to "help" her recover some sense of confidence in herself. There's a difference between wanting to 'fix' someone and wanting to 'aid' them.
>>29767866Foxgirl from Log Horizon.She's the fluffiest.
>>29767977Reinhold reminds me of this derpy badass, actuallyGreat Swording? CheckRandomly Snarky? CheckCompletely Oblivious to anybody's romantic interest in him? Triple CheckHell, he even breaks his swords a lot
>>29767776too bad she's never going to winShiroe is a lolicon after all
>>29768015shit, didn't mean to quote anyone in this post.sorry.
>>29768015It's more about method and intent. End result would have us with her, but in a proper relationship instead of abusive and manipulative. Dating someone and trying to assault them are quite different, we would just need to make it clear that she needs to set the boundaries in the event and that we'll respect them. It'd have to be HER pace, not ours.
>>29768027that I'd be ok with. I don't like that a lot of people think that jumping into a relationship will help her though
>>29768033Makes sense. Arch IS a Slayers fan after all. He seemed plenty entertained when I suggested we go crystal chimera to style after Zelgadis.
>>29767986If I didn't, I didn't see a reason to since it's pretty retarded to argue about it anyway. I was just saying you don't speak for everyone, and shouldn't use argumentum ad populum.Anyway...I think we've all been kind of leaning towards this, but how about we go Arnaud's route? Can we do that archelon? What would that entail?Magic is essential for it's utilitarianism, but I think we should rely on our swordsmanship. Get a magic sword at most, but I think it'd be cooler to just have the best mundane sword money can buy. Partly out of spite after we lost to a Sealed King.
>>29768032also used goods
>>29768059If anything we'd need to have helped her make a lot of progress before a relationship would even be an option. Otherwise we're just asking for a horror show.
>>29766976More or less. Arnaud is the oldest of the three.>>29767005Plenty. I haven't handled several things as well as I could have, and then there's the general issue of my writing form being kind of crap.Also, this thing eats up ALL OF MY FREE TIME.>>29767034I really hope not.>>29767182Thanks.>>29767184Dunno.>>29767258There are wolf girls.>>29767307Pretty much this.>>29767336Exactly.
>>29768037Well the quote wasn't totally out of context actually, assuming we TRIED to waifu Marianne we basically would be a less intelligent version of Krusty. They both even have Berserker as a subclass.
>>29768092Arch says routelocks are comingso I think the plot itself may move things forwardand give reason for the friendship to become something else>>29768027Agreed 100%>>29768052True, I suppose
>>29768074Still best Log.Damn Minori/Akatsuki and their seductive loli bodies stealing Shiroe's heart.
archelon I just want to let you know that even if we all hate eachother for different reasons, if they hated you, they probably dropped the quest.
>>29768119>That feels when I'm both those first posts replied to.
>>29768101Can we get a Volker interlude? Or an interlude where Thierri, or Gregory were adventurers?
So the routelocks will be "the one with who you spend the least time will be out" elimination?
>>29768101>wolf girlsthis pleases my dick
>>29768101>Arnaud is the oldest of the three.Man, with all the ribbing Celestino's been getting about his age, I don't even want to know.
>>29768101Can we get more of Thierri? I want to hear about Aquaman's adventures.
>>29768133the sexiest
>>29767406Mostly social interaction with some action here and there. Shit will indeed get real at some point.Reinhold can get stronger (and has been). Just because he won't get to Gregory's level within this quest doesn't mean that he'l never do anything important.But this quest has never been about being The Guy, and I apologize to everyone who was expecting it to.>>29767453As for the rules, certain spells make use of them, and others are limited by them. Searching spells don't work if the target is "hidden," for example. There aren't any religious zealots who fight over these things, though there are monks who try and learn as much as they can about said rules.And as for the familiar question, the initial summoning is involuntary.
>>29768147 dat reaction image haha But yeah my theory is a few events + timeskip then plot would be a sensible sequence for this
>>29768248So, just to clarify for all the people who are over-focused on Reinhold's combat capabilities despite this not being a combat focused quest: Yes or noIf we wanted Rein to become a good enough swordsman to beat Monique despite his sealed king advantage without the need for multiple crits we'd need to devote more quest time to training with Arnaud?
>>29768275I don't think the time we could have focus on training would allow Rein to beat Monique without the said crit rolls.It just as simple as beating him and knocking him out before he pull out the seal sword.If not, you lose.
speaking about spells are there any really ridiculous ones like Reality Marbles or Necromancy
>>29768248Arch, how long until VN?I want to give you my money, all of it
>>29768248plz respond on what Arnaud's style is like? And how we could go that route? The impression I got was that Gregory is more balanced, but that may be because we haven't heard much about his swordsmanship beyond being a swordmage. Or being primarily sword with some magic for utility and to even things out (like wings so a mage can't just fly and throw fireballs at us from the sky)?
>>29767565I'm not going to say specifically.>>29767581horrible marine beasts.And also Leviathans, which are the marine variant of Lesser Dragons. They are horrible horrible things.>>29767583They don't spend very much time together.>>29767595If there is a thread, it'll likely be stupidly late.As for right now, I'm here for the next twenty minutes.>>29767719Not sure what you mean by "NotHRE.">>29767860I'm flattered by a lot of it.>>29767886Er... I think that'd be a lot to go through.>>29768001Maybe.>>29768018Hahahahahaha I wishdammit now I'm imagining how awesome that would be>>29768070Arnaud was mostly utility magic plus EXTREME SWORDERY, and Volker was the same way.And then shit went down (directly related to his current butler state) and he got much more magicy.
>>29768398>"NotHRE."He means a nation based off of the Holy Roman Empire.
>>29768248>But this quest has never been about being The Guy, and I apologize to everyone who was expecting it to.i really love PGQ, and i'd also love a "100% powergaming" bad-ass motherfucker (in training) quest but yeah, no need to mix the two directly
>>29768398Any chance of getting a map of the continent at some point?
>>29768166I was thinking about doing an interlude with Volker and Adrien's final adventure.>>29768218He'll be a bit more prominent.>>29768231Unf.>>29768312I would have laughed so hard if you'd gotten multiple crists in that fight and knocked him on his ass before he even got a chance to show off his fancy sword.>>29768313Negative Zone, the most powerful personal ability of the Old King with the title of "endless shadow." It creates a large field within which he absorbs ALL of the ambient magical energy released by the planet. Whenever he'd use this ability, things would die. Horribly.
>>29768426No, Alsiradna puts the kibosh on any empire-forming ambitions.And even if he didn't, the dragons who control the western coast would take care of it.>>29768487I'd need to stop being lazy first.I'm around for a few more minutes, if there were any final questions that anyone has.
>>29768565HRE wasn't a real empire though.I think he means:>germanic>smaller kingdoms inside an okay size kingdom>maybe have some 'not-habsburgs'?
>>29768565Is it possible Celestino's older and younger children, or is that part of someone else's story?
>>29768500>I would have laughed so hard if you'd gotten multiple crists in that fight and knocked him on his ass before he even got a chance to show off his fancy sword.That would've been extremely unlikely. Possible with the very swingy and crit-happy "best of 3" system, though.Now, I'm not shitting on you or the dice system, even. But next time you do another similar situation in any quest, you should avoid an encounter where you need multiple confirmed crits to win when it's extremely low. Or to choose the "trick" choice -- forfeiting. No way at the time, anyone could have predicted we wouldn't have to forfeit because of Karel Fiat.
>>29768565Please stop being a lazy faggot.I beg of you.
>>29768612as a quick add on to your thing, I don't think /tg/ has ever surrendered-we always try to be the fight to the last kind of idiots
>>29768565The Holy Roman Empire were hardly an empire in the strict sense, archelon. It was very decentralized. They even had a couple of semi-autonomous cities (Free Imperial Cities).
>>29768565You mentioned a comic, and the VN thing (both would be awesome), so I just wanted to state again: this has a lot of potential to become a succesful cross-media setting/franchise.I wish you luck in these endeavours, and as a fan, I hope to see more of this universe.
>>29768650I second thisI would buy VNs and if you get or are a good artist, comics as well
>>29768500>Negative Zone, the most powerful personal ability of the Old King with the title of "endless shadow." It creates a large field within which he absorbs ALL of the ambient magical energy released by the planet. Whenever he'd use this ability, things would die. Horribly.oh god i actually got a boner reading that
>>29768565The HRE was an empire in name only for a lot of it's reign, with kings, dukes, princes and counts within basically giving some tribute every now and then, or just doing what the Emperor wants if it suits them.It also looked like ass.
>>29768671>>29768650Agreed.
>>29768671>I would buy VNdepending on when the kickstarter is, i'd back it. i just don't have money right now
>>29768675sounds a bit like Satsuki's Depletion Garden
>>29768565>HRE>an empireVoltaireface.jpg
>>29768740That was my first though as well.Friendly reminder: Sacchin route never, remake is vaporware.
>>29768248>But this quest has never been about being The Guy, and I apologize to everyone who was expecting it to.At this point, I don't even care if Reinhold isn't The Guy. I just want to stop feeling so far behind other people that are around us. Had we beaten Monique, I'd have been fine with that moment to shine but we just ended up with the worst situation and the majority see Monique as a hero.I just don't feel like Reinhold deserves his position anymore I guess.
>>29768565what does (did?) rein's sword look like?which of the attached swords is closest/does it have any unique features?
>>29768752While it was true when Volitaire said it, it was a powerful empire at several stages of history.
>>29768765We kind of did beat Monique though, in every way that matters.
>>29768765>the majority see Monique as a hero.I don't want to start arguments again, but look. Most of the royalty of both countries think it was a shitty move, his own brother thinks he was a shit, the kinsen family think he was kind of a shit. everybody who matters thinks it was fucked up that he pulled a sealed king out in a non-magical duel. who cares what the general public who don't know how duels work think? even if it was a shitty thing to happen, it doesn't mean the quest as a whole suffers. good stories have bad things happening, if the protagonist won ever single encounter and had everything go perfectly the story is just boring.
>>29768603Is it possible what?>>29768643>>29768681>>29768752My ignorance of european history strikes again!>>29768612Yeah, I will definitely keep that in mind in the future.>>29768631Perhaps I shall.>>29768650>>29768671Thanks.Last call before I turn in for the night!
>>29768821Anon.We look like a bitch IC and OC.Especially since The Melty dude guy threated Monique (As if Arch would kill Monique) and didn't even let us resolve it ourselves, with a fight or even just talking to him about the duel.Is as if the fight happen and the consenquences of such a fight just...disappear.
>>29768842Are there pirates?
>>29768842What do you think about the fact that several people want to know whether or not you can fuck a sealed king?
>>29768842did you know that i love what you do?also, is inaba intelligent/magic?
>>29768603Is it possible to reconcile Celestino's older and younger children?sorry my typing is fucked up apparently
>>29768842If you ever need to know something just ask, /tg/ is the unofficial history board.Or rather was.General knowledge has gotten pretty awful over the last few years.
>>29768842honestly, regarding maps, you could post a hastily drawn MS paint sketch and some drawfag would probably neaten it up and produce a nice looking one>>29768858in what way are we a bitch IC? reinhold didn't tell gregory to go and threaten monique, he doesn't even know it's happened. do you think monique is going to blab about that? we're a peasant raised in a brothel who nearly took out a well-bred noble with a high ranking position who was in possession of a magical nukeblade.
>>29768821Yes and no. We physically beat him but his sword still gave him the victory. It's not a real victory, it's not a real loss. Either way, it's not satisfying.>>29768834To be fair, we don't know the exact opinions of the royalty of the countries or what the Kinsen family thinks besides the son. Although you are probably right in that they wouldn't approve. As for the protagonist not winning every encounter, I have no problems losing things if it results in growth in the long run. But it's pretty clear Reinhold isn't going to get anywhere near the level of what Monique could do outside of a duel within the quest. Our rival is already something we're not going to be able to touch. Maybe I'm wrong but that's just how it feels to me at this point and that Reinhold on the grand scheme of things will just be a normal dude with no chance to ever prove his worth.
>>29768842could we have just said fuck it and leave our job at some point like a few people wanted, or you'd have said something like "it's princess guard quest, you stay a princess guard, period" ? i'm just curious
>>29768842>My ignorance of European history strikes again!That's more than just European history since the HRE was a big part of the inspiration for elective federations later, including the united states.Although you should probably know the institution that dominated central Europe for a thousand years regardless.
>>29768909>what the Kinsen family thinks besides the sonking and queen fluffy thought it was like a grown man beating a child, prince fluffy is traumatized
>>29768842Thanks a lot for the Q&A and the quest in general.
>>29768922A lot of schools just skim over it.I remember in high school my teacher called it Germany all the time... and that rustled my jimmies
>>29768909not everything has to be satisfying. there's nothing wrong with losing occasionally, it's what makes winning feel good.I thought Monique's brother said that the kinsen family didn't approve, and it's clear that at least Luciana and Elena and Nico and Sylvie and Mari, all of whom are vaguely royal, did not like it at all. It's safe to say at least some of their more senior relatives probably feel the same.
>>29768842don't forget >>29768777
>>29768953>A lot of schools just skim over it.my public education in california never even mentioned iti truly wish i was joking
>>29768957I tend to not include the friends of Reinhold because it's obvious how they will feel about the situation. As for the Kinsen family, perhaps you are right. It was late when I read that update and don't remember it super clearly.As for not everything having to be satisfying - you'd be right if I saw it possible for us to win against the dude in the future but I don't. There's no reason to assume Reinhold will advance in skill faster than Monique at this point. If anything, Monique has greater potential to advance due to his sword being able to help him all the time learning how to use it best and get better.
what are some metal elemental creatures that could serve as a familiar, even if we don't get one
>>29768986Holy shit, seriously? This belongs in a feels thread...
>>29769001Anon...That be powergaming and that aren't going to happen under Arch watch. I bet that the sword will be the exact as always even with mad science.
>>29768999but we don't have to winin essence, Rein is just some guy. just 'cause we're the PC doesn't mean we have to be the strongest. a lot of castle members are stronger than us, why is it impossible that someone who we're not on good terms with could also outlevel us? I would have preferred to win, yeah, but this isn't a bad thing to happen. It's bad IC, but OOC it's fine, and if anything has given us an actual rival. If Monique lost every time he challenged us, he'd just become a kind of joke character. This has given him some actual presence as a character and an actual thread.
>>29769027i just said even if we don't get one, i just can't think of a whole lot of mythical creatures that are based on metal
>>29769027>even if we don't get one
>>29768777Closest to 45-47, I guess.>>29768866Of course there are pirates.>>29768874Y'all a bunch of deviants.>>29768875Thank you.And Inaba is smarter than most bunnies.>>29768878Probably not. His eldest daughters are kind of really awful.>>29768891Yeah, the years that I've spent here have definitely shown me that.You guys are honestly scary sometimes about that stuff.>>29768915It's Princess Guard Quest, for better or worse.>>29768936Ye be welcome.
>>29769001A Metal-typed Lindwurm, most likely.And now I sleep.It's been fun answering these questions.
>>29769053It's just history, what kind of fool would you be to know not the ethnic composition of the balkans and how it changed over time that led to the conflicts we've seen in the region for centuries.
>>29769039Anon, when the princess casual kill 3 people with magic and Reinhold had to kill 1 person with effort, then what the point of being a princess guard? it not about who the strongest, it about how useless Rein been at bodyguarding. His only talents is swording and art. Which one will get him remembered or will last beyond his lifetime?
>>29769039That's the thing - it just doesn't feel like Monique is actually our rival anymore since he'll just get so far ahead and join the ranks of those people who are completely stronger than Reinhold. I have no issues with him having a rival, him losing or him not being the strongest - I've said this multiple times. I have issues with the fact that there will be no one at his power level except perhaps faceless villains/assassins and that his role in the quest is rather laughable in the grand scheme of things.
>>29769053> there are pirates.Yarr! Pirate Princess Quest when?
>>29769067I just woke upfuckin' timezonesnight arch
>>29769070The Bosnians are the most rowdy anyway.
>>29769067night arch, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs implant their eggs into your head and eat out the back of your eyes
>>29769067night, arch, rest well.thanks for the thread, that was really interesting
>>29769084more like pirate prince and you should know who i'm talking about
>>29769077>when the princess casual kill 3 peoplewhen did this happen, taka is the one that minced three guys, luci got one in the stone grip and that was after we took off his arm
>>29769083He's actually always been able to take us out, remember, he's a magic user. The only reason we won is because magic was limited in duels, and the only reason HE won is that there's a loophole with sealed kings to let you magic a non-magic users. His power level hasn't actually changed that much at all, the only difference is that he can cast without a couple of seconds delay as he visualises and can dull pain without casting a spell on himself.
>>29769114Captain Jack Sparrow
>>29769114mari's uncle?
>>29769114>cavendish questGuessed it right?
>>29769120>dull painMore like delay mortal injuries. Pierced lung, broken ribs.. come on hahaha
>>29769053>Y'all a bunch of deviants.Where do you think you are?
>>29769120Which goes back to another problem - magic makes swording useless. Someone we were superior to is able to beat us just because of magic. Magic Reinhold will never be able to get unless we spend all our free time doing that kind of stuff from now on. Arch could have easily just made Monique get better at being a swordsman - the damn sword can probably mentor him at all times on his swordsman ship. Instead, he just got a magic power-up and calls it a day.Meanwhile, we can make water, sparkles and shoot some clay. I guess I'll just have to accept Reinhold is going to be a stepping stone above regular guards within this quest considering what other people can do. There's pretty much no situation where Reinhold will be a better guard for the princess than someone else at this point.
>>29769089Mainly because Bosniaks aren't really an ethnicity, they're just muslim croats and serbs or Turks that assimilated.Although, the real ethnic divide between the Serbs and Bosniaks is mostly related to religion anyway, with one side Catholic and the other Orthodox.Plus there are many sections of the Bosnian nation which are majority Serb or Croat which causes more problems again.It's a rather complex issue without a simple solution, and the solutions that would work well are too harsh for the UN to really support.
>>29769083>t just doesn't feel like Monique is actually our rival anymore since he'll just get so far ahead and join the ranks of those people who are completely stronger than Reinhold.It feels a lot more like he's our rival to me now that he's not just the guy we beat once and he's still mad about it. He beat us but ended up worse off than us. We should have some gain of power at some point, but Monique is definitely not powerful enough to not be a rival.
>>29769053Inaba confirmed for being almost twenty years old.
>>29769208"And the Eschenwalds and Gilbeaults had a long lasting rivalry spanning centuries"
>>29769178Reinhold is at the same level as Reya, Nicolette and maybe some others. Presumably, with the way Arch intends things, Luciana/Marianne/Sylvie aren't really stronger either.And, a SWORDmage can work, like Arnaud. It's a given you can't get anywhere without *any* magic. I think we should ask Arnaud to write us up a list of useful spells for a bodyguard who relies primarily on swordsmanship. And ask if the Fog spell can be used in the way we intend to.
>>29769229Dude, we can't custom magic.Not even to change the color of the magic.a 8 year old that learn magic from seeing someone else do it could though.
>>29768248Arch. VN. Now. Money.
>>29769256All the money
>>29769208I can't really consider someone a rival when, outside of a duel, he'd squash us like a bug. Before, I at least thought we'd have a chance against him in a real fight. Now? It's a laugh.>>29769229Nicolette I always understood is only at our level since she is insistent on using a spear. Reya you may be right but it's hard to say in a sparring situation where he's not using his full abilities which are more than just swording I'm sure. Luciana, Marianne and Sylvie I will rank as stronger just because of the magic aspect or at least strong enough they could win.As for swordmage, yeah I'm sure Reinhold can eventually be a good swordmage. But it won't happen within the quest based on the rate things are going.
>>29769247I never said anything about custom magic.What are you talking about?
>>29769274>outside of a duel, he'd squash us like a bug.I don't know about that. He had full ice magic through his sword. Sure, he had his lethal move, but he doesn't want to be a murderer either and we're never going to fight him lethally. Not to mention we have the ear of the princess and are on good terms with Gregory so if our rivalry got to lethal terms (which it won't) he'd still lose.
>>29769178we must become the ANTIMAGEthere must be magic nullifying equipment of some kind
>>29769339Arch said there was none.
>>29769326I know it won't happen but I'm speaking hypothetical. If they both threw down all out, Monique would wipe the floor with Reinhold. I can't really consider him a rival when he's that far above seeing the freedom the sword gives him with his ice magic. Reinhold basically was going all out in the duel while Monique was holding a crap ton back.
>>29769326he doesn't need to become a murdered, he can just pull a mari and freeze us in a big chunk of ice until we pass out
>>29769265i'd give him all of my $28.38. it's not enough to pay the electric bill anyway>>29769274>Sylvie I will rank as stronger just because of the magicshe could take us with her FISTS
>>29769361Like I said, Rein is useless as a bodyguard when he needs more protecting than the princess herself.
>>29769363Isn't her FISTS strength partly due to magic? If not, I laugh even more.
>>29769353shit when
>>29769373no, vincent made her learn FIST before she learned magic. magic wise she's only got a couple months experience on us
>>29769353then we need something a little different, and a lot more powerful. This is probably a thing for if Arch runs another Quest when we're given more leeway for powering up-so we draw a bit of power from each element and bind them as a contingency within an item, probably an amulet or gloves Whenever someone casts a spell, the contingency activates, releasing the opposite element they used and either minimizing or countering their spell
>>29769425>and a lot more powerfulPretty sure that's not happening, Anon. Arch has made it rather clear Reinhold is not going to be The Guy in any way.
>>29769425Anon.There been 100 fucking threads.Arch can do social.He can't do adventure or training. Heck, we don't even get magical gear for being the princess guard.Archelon hates Rein gaining power. We get what we scraped throughout 50% of the thread.If we get powerful, it be some timeskip at the end of the quest where we did jack at all gaining the power.
>>29769470that's why I said it was for another quest in this world, if it happens. This is a kind of weird and powerful magical combo that only The Guy (or The Girl, dunno who the real protagonist is) would be able to do
>>29769476Sorry, I mean what we scraped for 50% of the entire quest.Rein going to get slaughter out there by a fucking mage isn't he?
>>29769485We might beat some scrub mage but if we're thrown against a competent one? Yeah, most likely. Unless we have someone else save the day or help.
>>29769484Anon. Only NPC can be powerful.Arch doesn't trust the players with any kind of power on his setting.Just enjoy the ride of social and oh wait there an assisination attempt, oh wait, someone else who got so many tier of power over us solved the problem.They about to kill the princ-nope. She frozen them solid.
>>29769470He's not The Guy. But once he's off our hands, in a decade or so, he'll be Gregory level, and that's happy enough for me
The only good thing about the duel was it won us some points with Rana and lights a small hope for Rana route.
>>29769485no, arch said breaking their concentration makes them unable to cast, so rein's overly aggressive style would be good for that. a demon kid or contractor could be a threat, but still beatable. a sealed king without tourney rules will wreck him at this point though
>>29769511Yeah that's annoying. He's just teasing us with a sneak preview of the world hew rote and he expects us to suck his dick for even glimpsing his magical realm.
>>29769516Keyword >Off our hands
>>29769529Have you fucking seen how fucking fast the spell the princess cast on us were?
>>29769511you know we could have joined taka in hunting down half dragons if people didn't freak out over whether it would trip flags
>>29769529I still don't think it will be that simple. We'd have to get in range to actually be a threat and if mages were that easy to beat, in theory we should be able to walk up to Niklaus and wreck him. For some reason, I don't see that happening. Hell, Sylvie is a mage and knows how to fight them better than Reinhold I'm sure and she wasn't breaking Niklaus' concentration with spells much.
>>29769476>we don't even get magical gear for being the princess guard.What? Do you read? All our bodyguard clothes are enchanted to all fuck and we preferred to use Volker's sword over some gimmicky enchanted ones because they would break.
>>29769559Only Thierri is badass enough to do it
>>29769563We didn't knew that until we asked the GM himself a couple of thread ago.
>>29769485In a fight between Reinhold and most mages the question is one of distance.Can Reinhold close the distance on the mage while avoiding being hit, or does the mage do enough damage to stop him. If Reinhold closes the distance and starts swinging they'll probably go down. Obviously we aren't going to be able to pull this off against someone like Niklaus or Vincent, but against most mages if we get in their face doing our level best to separate their heads from their shoulders they are going to die.
>>29769575Pretty sure it was mentioned way back when our clothes were enchanted. I don't remember why we didn't get a new blade but I'm pretty sure we were told we didn't need a new one because ours was fine.
>>29769575And that was during the Monique duel shitstorm.
>>29769554slower than a dagger would have been, but iirc we were on the floor desperately trying to keep her calm>>29769559niklaus is in the monster range, you can't compare him with a normal mage
>>29769575>>29769586It was mentioned loooong ago guys
>>29769575We already knew both of those things.Arnaud personally told us he took care of enchanting our clothing to be protective, and Archelon mentioned that our sword was a tough piece of equipment pretty early.
>>29769592Psst. Anon. Anon.Elena cast a spell fast enough no one was able to stop her from flying away. Yes she did it by surprise but her bodyguard still couldn't stop or break her concentration in time.
>>29769612>she did it by surpriseexactly
>>29769649So we better hope no mage ever surprises us in a fight. I'm sure that will never happen.
>>29769656Or cast the ability to be invisibleIt not like it magic.Or set booby traps like invisible runes.
>>29769656we better hope no one surprises us in a fight, because a dagger to the side is just as dangerous and a lot less noticeable than magic script floating around their head. the only reason she got her spell off was because everyone was standing there in a combination of trying to calm her down and shock at her doing magic. if it was with someone whose safety didn't matter then the starry sky guy could have just punched them the second script appeared
>>29769476the quest is less than a month inhow fast do you think people get strong?
>>29769594Yeah. Their memory is shit or they're new. It was brought up by Arnaud right after a weapons shitstorm where Archelon tried to sweep it all under the rug.
>>29769698No, it's because Archelon wanted to fuck with us, so he made it so noone could touch an 8 year old just standing there. It was contrived no matter how you look at it.
>>29769705Pretty fucking fast based on Monique.
>>29769802>implying monique has gotten stronger at allhe found a sword, the sword has inherent powers. he himself has gained nothing.
>>29769810He did actually learn some new moves on his adventure
