Luciana's gotten up from her seat and is talking with Marianne, presumably about the book that she's been reading. While you feel kid of bad to interrupt their conversation, you feel even worse about blowing up at Luciana like you did earlier.

And if she's going to be your girlfriend, she probably ought to know what caused you to act the way you did. Even though you really don't like talking about it.


>take Luciana into your room and tell her there, you should probably get some privacy for this
>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows and it'll probably be better for Luciana if she knows that you're not just dumping all of this on her alone
>ask them what they prefer
>[OTHER[

>>30006800

>ask them what they prefer

Betamax

>>30006800
>>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows and it'll probably be better for Luciana if she knows that you're not just dumping all of this on her alone

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>an unruly wolf again

I don't read this, but it's always good to see Reinhold climb up a rung.

>>30006800
>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows and it'll probably be better for Luciana if she knows that you're not just dumping all of this on her alone

>>30006800
>>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows and it'll probably be better for Luciana if she knows that you're not just dumping all of this on her alone

>>30006800
>>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows and it'll probably be better for Luciana if she knows that you're not just dumping all of this on her alone

>>30006800
>>take Luciana into your room and tell her there, you should probably get some privacy for this

marriane doesn't know about spinelle.

>>30006800
>>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows
Are we gonna explain some of the stuff we left out with Marianne or does she know the general idea of the subject?

>>30006800

>ask them what they prefer

>>30006925
There's really no reason at this point to not let her know, though. If nothing else, it will explain our reaction from when she froze us to the wall.

>>30006800
>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows and it'll probably be better for Luciana if she knows that you're not just dumping all of this on her alone
Is it "So if we are going to be together,I should tell you why I am like I am. I don't mean to be rude or anything but it's kind of heavy..." time?

>>30007007
yes.

>>30007007
Yes.

>>30006800
>ask them what they prefer
Let Luciana know that Marianne already knows pretty much all of it, and then see if she'd rather we tell her in private or if she'd prefer to have her friend there for moral support.

We don't just want to dump this on them both without fanfare, and there isn't any particular reason we should feel compelled to have Marianne sit through the whole song and dance a second time seeing how unpleasant it was for her the first time around.

If we plan on telling the whole story, on the other hand, we should probably tell Marianne that before starting. Let her know in advance that we're going to be explaining everything this time, and that even if it's something we think we need Luciana to know before moving forward, we left it out from our first summary of our background for a reason, and we don't want to worry her with it more than is necessary. Unless she really wants to know.

She's more likely than not going to want to hear it regardless, but it's better to let her know that she's in for more this time than the last if she still wants in.

>>30007052
I like option 2.

>>30006978
okay BUT only three people needs to know about spinelle MAX.

>>30007095
so far only citrine knows about spinelle right?

>>30006800
>>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows and it'll probably be better for Luciana if she knows that you're not just dumping all of this on her alone

I like this, with the second part of this: >>30007052

>writing

>>30006800
>>tell Luciana right out here, Marianne already knows and it'll probably be better for Luciana if she knows that you're not just dumping all of this on her alone
>[OTHER[
Ask Marianne if she'd mind if you told the story of your past again. Don't want to force her, but mention there are some other details you haven't mentioned yet, that you'd like to tell both of them to know. Like Spinellie.

>>30007186
yes

>>30006800
>take Luciana into your room and tell her there, you should probably get some privacy for this

Whether or not Marianne knows is completely irrelevant you fucking autists. It's a personal thing.

>>30007254
this is going to be a stressful day for all parties.

>>30007253
This. We shouldn't just blurt shit like that out without warning.

>>30007288
I'm certain we'll use tact in this explanation.

Is 4chan kill or did we seriously go 17 minutes without a post this early on?

>>30007621
we've gotten a lot better about shitposting recently

>>30007621
There's really not that much to discuss.

Relish the consensus.

>>30007621
We did.

I wasn't going to say anything, but yes.

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>>30007636
don't jinx it

>>30007621
Don't complain about a lack of shitposting.

Yeah, my laptop went retarded for a while there.

>back to writing

>>30007621

1. This Quest has gotten slower since the end of the whole duel shitstorm,
2. PGQ always gets slower when Arch is writing,
3. There's rarely much to discuss at the start of a thread unless HAPPENING in previous threads,
4. It's only been ~20 minutes,
5. >>30007677

>>30007621
I'm trembling in feel right now.

You know... Maybe we should have gotten the girls to sit down with Citrine and had her tell the full molesty story. Kind of like an ironman feels competition. Last woman standing that still wants to deal with reinholds emotional issues wins the reinbowl.

Sigh... Reinsight is 20/20

>>30007720
I'm also an a quiver in anticipation. I wonder how'll she'll take the news. At least she will understand.

>>30007621
How fast is it normally? This is the first thread I haven't had to read from the archive.

>>30007803
if only i'm optimistic.

So when we go to Sylvies room to speak alone and we tell her we are marrying Luci and she pushes us down so she can have a little Chinhold of her own we all agree to let her do it right?

>>30007792
Sylvie probably would have jumped up and gone LET ME FIX YOU REINHOLD like she did when we tried to insinuate about the trauma before.

Actually, thinking on it, I think that was the point where she lost a lot of her following, but that's purely conjecture on my part.

So.. any ideas how we can get out of this Luci business before route lock?

Haha, I'm just kidding, we route locked over three threads ago.

>>30007710
Well, I'm pretty sure that after we got emotionally blackmailed into Luci route with a 'date Luci / be asshole when she's the most vulnerable' option (this on top of emotions running high in the anti-Monique camp; players being frantic about the idea of losing Luci to Monique and so greedily wanting her for themselves, regardless of whether they REALLY wanted her or not), partnered with general pissed-offedness over the whole 'people can't get over that Monique has a Sealed King'.. pretty sure that Arch drove off a substantial amount of posters.

Now, you can take that as a positive, or a negative, s'entirely up to you. But that's pretty much the gist of how slow things have gotten on the player side. People might say it's because "the waifu wars finally calmed down," which is kind of true, in the same sorta sense that Japan 'calmed down' when America double-nuked it.

>>30007828
Twenty to thirty minutes a post. Assuming something isn't going on where archelon is.

>>30007828
Over three thousand posts and three threads in one night is the record so far.

>>30007860
Please stop

Just like Japan would not have prospered from immediately jumping back into a war after it got nuked, this quest will not prosper from trying to reignite the waifu war.

>>30007828
There's usually a post every two to three minutes, unless you're asking how often Arch posts, in which case his posts are about twenty minutes apart, although he seems to have sped up over the past few days.

>>30007845
>....she pushes us down...
Nope. MAXIMUM PSTD.


>>30007792
That sounds like a pretty good idea, but It's more likely to work only with whoever we route-locked with.

>>30007860
I guess it wouldn't be PGQ without shit posters. Thanks anon I almost had hope for humanity there.

>>30007901
What is reinhold gonna do? Resist her rape strength while hes blubbering all over the bed?
Bite the billow Reinhold

>>30007887
As if the waifu wars will ever start up again - that's the whole point of the Japan analogy, anon. Anyone who wanted to pursue it either just gave up due to being utterly demoralized by having no say in things, or was roasted into a nuclear-baked s'more by the Luci route-lock event and is no longer with us.

>>30007867
>>30007899
Well, so long as he isn't as slow as Blackjack, I think I'll be okay.

>>30007874
That...That's pretty impressive.

>>30007942
>Goes full PTSD mode
>Pulls out the Emergency Knife
>Accidental murder.

>>30007940
I'm sorry that you find an explanation of why there's fewer posters to be shitposting.

While I cannot alter your wrong and misinformed opinion, I would like to remark that I did state that these turn of events are neither good nor bad, but wholly subjective as to how you wish to perceive them, yourself.

However, that does not negate the fact that, for better or for worse, this is pretty much an accurate description of what happened.

And I'll leave it at that, before you continue to shitpost about other people shitposting.

>>30007845
Ya, he would go full flash back and wreck her shit. But part of me really want's her to go full yandere and not take no for an answer.

>>30007944
I still maintain that this is a 95% positive result.

Even if I never get RanaxReinhold

>>30007874

Pretty sure the duel saw something like ~5000 posts total.

>>30007953
>That...That's pretty impressive.

It is, but Archelon is far from the only QM to have ever done it.

>>30008001
Like I said in the first place, I'm not gonna try to dictate whether or not it's good or bad - everyone will see these turn of events differently, and that's perfectly alright. I'd have liked a Marianne route, but that's just not in the cards and bitching about it certainly isn't going to change anything and will only make shit worse.

"Luciana? Marianne?" you call out, your expression far more somber than usual.
"What is it, Reinhold?" Luciana asks.
"What, is something wrong?" Marianne says.
"Well," you sigh, "if me and Luciana are going to be together, she should probably know why it is that I am the way I am."

Yeah, you should get that out of the way as soon as possible before she tries to push you down or something.

"...oh," Marianne says, placing her book down. "Yes, I suppose you should."
"Hm?" Luciana turns from you to Marianne. "Is this related to why you yelled at me for flirting? That's okay, I know you said that you wanted to take it slow..."
"Yes, well it's not just that he's shy," she replies. "You can go ahead and say it here, it's not like I haven't already heard this before."

"Actually, I didn't tell you -everything- either, Marianne," you say.
"What do you mean, that wasn't 'everything?' You mean there's even more than what you already told me?" Marianne asks, seeming more than a little bit unnerved.

Yeah, this is why you didn't want to bring this up.

"I figured that it would just upset you to hear about -everything- that happened to me, so..." you sigh.
"No, I understand," Marianne replies. "It's not like I can blame you."


>[1/?]

>>30007982
>>30008000

This VN needs something kinky to spice things up a bit
Cross your fingers for flashback to shouta rape or atleast yandere bondage

>>30008063
>*sad music starts playing*

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>>30008063

>>30008063
welp choo choo i guess.

>>30008063
>>30008091
>>30008114

COME ON SHOUTA BONDAGE
COME ON CITRINE

>>30008063
>She just though he was shy
So what happens if Luciana hears about all this and goes: "This is not what I signed up for." Not everyone is emotionally prepared to date someone with ptsd.

>>30008063
IS IT FINALLY FLASHBACK FEEL TIME?

>>30008063
New soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y983TDjoglQ

>>30008063
It's raining

>>30008063
I want this. Let's do this! Flashback!?!

>>30008166
Do you really want a flashback to Reinhold being raped?

>>30008151
Luciana is pretty strong man, i bet she has some stories with her half sibling too.

>>30008151
We'll cross that bridge if and when we come to it. Maybe she'll surprise the haters and not back down.

>>30008063
>why it is that I am the way I am."
what the fuck? why do we sound like a My Chemical Romance song?

>>30008172
were the fuck do you think you are? of course he does.

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>>30008172

Does anybody else feels Arch is pacing everything way too fast for Reinhold? I mean, were just a few days ago "Not prepared for a relationship" and now Rein is all about "Luciana is YOURS, damnit!".

It just feels way too odd and out of character, specially considering Reinhold's backstory.

>>30008172
If you do that, you'll have a dozen anons derail the thread choices in order to hunt her down and make her finish what she started

>>30008151
this breaks the Reinhold

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>>30008063
oh boy here it comes

>>30008172
Where do you think you are m8

>>30008063
KINKY SEX TRAIN
ALL ABOOOOOOOARD

>>30008172
We were promised a DESPAIR flashback at some point.

I want suffering. I need it.

>>30008202
its ESPECIALLY because of Reinhold's past why things are like this.

>>30008202
No. It's been explained before.

>>30008151
We wish her a happy life and move on to next waifu. i am pretty sure that will not happen though.

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>>30008151
>Everyone dedicated to Luci route now
>Share tearjerking PTSD backstory
>Luci gets off the ride while she can
>PGQ's face when

>>30008151

I don't think either of the girls in the cast would run away from something like that.

>>30008202
>Does anybody else

The answer to this question is always "yes, and we've been over this".

>>30008202
I can see where you're coming from. On the other hand, we really only have so much time. It's like a movie or tv show speeding things up so that it'll fit within the allotted runtime, I think. That's why I haven't really had an issue with it anyway.

>>30008243
We would have no one to turn to. No one to love us. Just us alone in misery with our bracelet~

>>30008243
>goes for Monique instead
PsionQuest ntr tiem

>>30008243
But anon, that is how you get on Marie route... Routeception.

How much magical energy do you think semen contains?

>>30008275
Actually, I'm will to bet that the situation would cause most of the other girls to go after Reinhold even more fiercely.

>>30008202
The general idea is that Rein learned that he actually cared about Lucy when he was about to lose her. It was only in that great moment of drama that he learned how he felt. Lucy also echos some of the ideas that Cirtine said to us awhile back that was posted in a few threads back IIRC.

>>30008275
>yfw Marianne stays there to confort Rein
>yfw Sylvie's okay with it too
>yfw Nico invites everyone to her harem
>eventually Luciana sees the error of her ways and joins
Happy Ending!

>>30008243
I would be ok with it since the only thing I like about luci is her hair

>>30008275
>Bracelet turns into a fleshlight
>The tears start
>Luciana said we could use the picture on lonely nights...
>Feel really weird, yet satisfied, the next morning.

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>>30008297
All of it

>>30008315
The start of a healthy relationship!

>this is what the girls hear as Reinhold tell his story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ONvvPC-SM

>>30008275
>Sylvie won't take him back
>Nicolette's lost interest
>Marrianne is too uneasy around him
>Rana's not interested in Reinhold, she's only been teasing him, she was never serious
>Tina stays a bracelet
Wow, Reinhold life would be true suffering then. I'd eat that despair up.

>>30008347
>Meido is moved by this commoner's life
>Meido route unlock

>>30008347
We can always fall back on Spinelle!

>>30008275
i am really hoping for that anon to deliver tina smut part 2, part one was so fucking hot.

>>30008344

>and this is what Reinhold hears in his head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zqYSezqwo

>>30008347
>>30008358
>And meido is snatched up by Nicolette before we can act
No escaping the suffering train anon.

>>30008372
I have other stories on my backlog before I consider a part two.

>>30008236
>>30008237
I don't see how that makes sense.

>>30008257
>>30008260
I understand that Arch only has so much time, but still. I mean, I preferred Marianne and all that, but even with her It would seem too cramped up.

>>30008344
Agree.

>>30008309
I guess such a harsh moment could had push Reinhold into having a quick change of heart for Luci. Yeah, makes some sense, but does that mean he can actually come to regret this, seeing as he made such an abrupt decision?

>>30008372

"I hate you" gave me chills

>>30008360
she's married.

>>30008391
It wasn't a change of heart. He was always attracted to Luciana, the marriage scare just made him realise it.

>>30008407
Niklaus. We'll husbando Niklaus.

>>30008389
oh man, do you at least have a proper account on pastebin? want to read more of your work.

>>30008421
I can fap to that!

>>30008421
>Niklaus falls for a new maid after Mellanie's taken by Nico

>>30008389
>>30008434
Where can I find this story

>>30008434
I do not, but I'll certainly make one upon finishing some more stories. My older works are on FA under the name 3dFag.

>>30008063

"I figured that Luciana ought to know about this stuff if we're going to be together," you say, "but if you didn't want to hear it, Marianne..."
"No, it's fine," Marianne replies, shaking her head. "If nothing else, Luciana won't have to deal with hearing about this by herself."
"Umm, now you're kind of starting to scare me," Luciana says, laughing nervously. "It's really that bad? I mean, I've killed people before... it's worse than that?"

"You've killed-" Marianne stares at her friend, you guess she hadn't been told about the other night's misadventure.
"Considering that I'd rather talk about the time I killed a guy for beating Citrine up when I was nine than talk about this..." you say.
"Oh. Oh my... I suppose I'd better take a seat then," Luciana says as she walks over to the couch and sits down.

After Marianne takes a seat next to Luciana, you clear your throat and begin speaking...


>[2/?]

>>30008421
>>30008450
>"Now Reinhard, I know this might not be easy for you, but there's something I need you to do for me."
>"...why do you have a black wig? And a maid outfit. And I don't even need to to wear glasses."
>"No, I'm afraid you really, really do."
UNSETTLING END.

>>30008421
Yeah! If the meido is a lady of lilies then we'll just be a man of... something. Roses, maybe?

>>30008463
http://pastebin.com/qgVnMMbA

>>30008498
Thanks

>>30008474
Can you hear that?

It's the sound of their psyche shattering.

If all else fails Reinhold can just move to Kinsen and get fluffy tails with mathias

>>30008474
i am so using AKU's voice for the narration part of this.

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>>30008474

Here we go.

Inb4 Marie realizes we snapped because we had sexual contact with her and not the ice magic.

>>30008474
>Reinman killed a nigga at age 9

damn Reinman

>>30008498
Welp time to read it again.

For like the fifth time.

>>30008516
I ripped open a portal in time where my waifu is law!

I like this. thank you for that.

>>30008467
aight, thanks man i'll check it out.

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>>30008474

>>30008309
>The general idea is that Rein learned that he actually cared about Lucy when he was about to lose her.

See, all I can see there is that he doesn't actually love her or like her 'that way'. Basically this is a child wanting something because he thought there was a chance he couldn't have it - not that this is Reinhold's fault, it's the anons who voted that way because THEY'RE the ones who're childish about 'I want' attitudes like this.

>>30008531
Oh great. More reasons for her to feel bad about herself.

>>30008574
Do you know that phrase "we only know something's value when we lose it"?
Well that's more or less what happened, he already liked her (it showed a lot on previous encounters) but he couldn't admit it until he snapped on the thought of losing her

>>30008531
Would we get DIRE WOLF rank then?

>>30008579
>Luciana's weirded out
>Marianne stays there to comfort Reinhold
>they ''tend to each other's wounds''

>>30008592
Again, I'm not seeing it. This is more in-line with 'I want her because someone else was going to have her' in my opinion. I'm pretty much 100% certain that if it was Sylvie that was going to get married off to Monique then we'd be with her right now instead of Luci.

>>30008531
>she finds a magic that makes her butt less fondlable.

>>30008615
Luciana actually got more development.

And the marriage thing was already solved dude, why the hell would they keep going if there was no marriage danger anymore.
Your point is flawed as fuck

>>30008621
If we use metaknowledge, we could actually arrive at the idea that Niklaus is basically already working on this based on the Bernard interlude.

Getting your wandering hand impaled by magical reactive butt-armor and bleeding out would be a hell of a way to go.

>>30008615
I want to say that you're wrong right now, I really do. But I think you're right. Why couldn't it have been Nico, instead?

>>30008615
>kidnap scene
>talks
>dance
>pre duel kiss

>>30008626
>Your point is flawed as fuck
Then you're simply not seeing the point being made. The point I'm making is that this relationship is born purely out of impulse and selfishly wanting Luci to ourselves. We ran the risk of losing one of our toys to someone else, so no it is our ultimate favourite number one toy that we've always loved even though before this we treated it with about the same amount of affection as all our other toys.

This isn't love, this is pure, full-on wanting her to ourselves, so we'll enter a relationship with her so as to guarantee that nobody else will ever have a shot at her.

>>30008666
Your post is literally built of 'Waaah my waifu didn't win.'

>>30008607
Marianne route go?

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>>30008474
Well shit
everything is about to get to shit

GRAB ON SUCKAS
WE ON THE >RAPE TRAIN NAO
NO BREAKS

>>30008654
>kidnap scene
>talks
>dance
All the other girls have had equal degrees of development with us, most of all Sylvie, who we then b.s.'d to avoid getting involved with because we knew she was going to pine for us and hold out for us and therefore it was guaranteed that we'd never lose her to some other guy.

>pre duel kiss
Was Luci being Luci and pushing her personal affections onto us. Reinhold would've reacted precisely the same if any other one of the girls, such as Sylvie, had kissed him pre-duel. Just because Luci was the one who did it doesn't make her 'the one'.

>>30008666
She fit more dude, I was going for Marianne myself but when the vote came it made sense.
Reinhold's past interactions along with his reaction made it seem like going with her was the most sensible thing, IC.

>he didn't want anybody else to have her
Which is a thing that people in love tend to do
you know that right?

>>30008474

"I never knew my parents," you begin. "I was found by the owner of a brothel in Cateno at his doorstep when I was just a few days ago, I have no idea why they decided to dump me THERE of all places, but that's how it turned out."
"So does that mean that you were..." Luciana gasps.
"No, the boss never sold me or anything like that," you reply. "He even beat up a few guys who tried to, uh, 'purchase my services,'" you say, shuddering. "I was mostly stuck cleaning up the mess that was left after, uh... you know, along with serving food and drinks to the better customers and pretty much whatever else they didn't feel like doing themselves."

Luciana's already upset from the little that you've just said, but Marianne's doing her best to keep her calm so you continue talking.

"I can only really remember doing this stuff when I was four, that's about as far back as I can remember," you say. "I'd help out wherever I was able, and the top girl there, Spinelle..."

Just saying her name makes you want to vomit.

"...she was always pretty nice to me up until then, so I didn't really understand just how awful my life actually was back then."
"That's the name of..." Marianne mutters under her breath.
"So I'd get beaten up whenever the Boss got drunk, which was pretty much every other night, but Spinelle would always hug me and tell me that it would be... god damn it," you say, shaking your head. "Anyways, I could handle it, you know?"


>[3/?]

>>30008666
or maybe. and stay with me on this one; this is all how YOU see it.
wheter or not it isnt or is, is a matter we will find out later on.
for now, all youre doing is making people believe youre shitposting. which is a shame because i can see some credibility in your post.

>>30008621
Dammit Marinne, why are you trying to deface a national treasure?

>>30008474
I dunno how to feel about this rape thing...

Arch wasn't the first to establish this history right?

We established it first?

I'm a bit confused as to how the 'shitty past' thing happened. Thought it was originally just "I was a bastard in a brothel"

>>30008723
>"That's the name of..." Marianne mutters under her breath.
UH OH.

>>30008666
see >>30008260

I'm sorry that it didn't go the way you thought, or take as long as you think it should, but the medium we use (quest threads) basically HAVE to function at an accelerated pace or they risk getting bogged down forever. It'd be like leaving Namek to go to Namek. Oh, and to get there, you have to travel through Namek.

>>30008723
Typo.

>when I was just a few days ago

>>30008701
Not really. The fact that you can't come up with a better rebuttal just tells me that you know I'm right but don't want to admit that you got suckered in by your own greediness.

Here's a fun fact: This scenario actually happens plenty of times in real life. People end up wanting someone even more just because there was the chance that someone else could've had them - even if they don't love that person, just the knowledge that said person was pining for them, wanting them, and they didn't need to do shit to reciprocate was enough. But the moment that person might become someone else's? SHE'S MY TRUE LOVE! I MUST HAVE HER!

>>30008723
>"That's the name of..." Marianne mutters under her breath.
Fuck, fuck fuck fuck

>>30008745
No damn you! Now he's gonna delete it and repost and you just wasted like five minutes you bastard!

>>30008723
Unless social conventions are very different in this setting, I very much doubt that the princesses would do anything but laugh at Reinhold when he starts talking about how awful it was that he was raped by Spinelle.

>>30008734
No, it was Arch.

>>30008734
It came up for the first time when we met Citrine, it wasn't a player made thing, Arche mentioned it.

>>30008723
Shit, she was his mother figure too...that really makes things a bit worse.

>>30008723
>"That's the name of..." Marianne mutters under her breath.

GETTIN' REAL TIRED OF THIS SHIT

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>>30008723
>"That's the name of..." Marianne mutters under her breath.

>>30008744
>>30008729
The thing is, all these 'shitpost! SHITPOOOST!' accusations are based on the premise that I'm upset because "muh waifu." Personally I couldn't give a shit about waifus or who gets what. I'm just pointing out that the way that this played out is fairly bleh and reeks of insincerity.

>>30008734
All Arch baby. I never wanted this back-story, but I'll play it right man.

>>30008761
Shhhh. Everyone is always understanding in waifu fantasy land.

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>>30008723
"That's the name of..." Marianne mutters under her breath.

HERE WE GO

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>>30008723

>>30008746
Actually I didn't bother with rebutting your argument because you've ignored all the ones that have been made against your statements thus far, there's no point using logic and reason when the target will just ignore it.

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>>30008626
>>30008666
I'm pretty sure he means it from the position /tg/ had at hte moment, not Reinhold. Rein obviously loves her storywise, is is talking about Luci being an abject of desire for /tg/.

At least that's how I see it.

I still feel bad for not getting Marianne Route.___Very bad___;_;___

>>30008746
>see someone you love being take her away
>well I'll be okay with that
He wouldn't flip out if he didn't like her a single bit
But really mate: if you're about to lose something you realize what it's truly worth. It's like so basic, your entire point is claiming that it can't be love, when you said it can also be love...
You're just trying to find something to complain about

>>30008761
Don't talk shit 'bout muh trauma.

>>30008737
>>30008748
>>30008766
>>30008777
>>30008786

Didn't we apologize to Spinelle out loud when Marianne froze us to the wall? I think she's remembering that, not that she knows her.

Unless that's what you are all referencing, in which case disregard me, I suck cocks.

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>>30008723
half surprised Rein didn't snap at Marianne for making it harder to speak about this via interruption

>>30008722
I just kinda got it as Reinhold's more of a passive guy in terms of relationships, especially due to his past.

I mean he wouldn't actively go for one himself, especially due to his history.

Basically whoever softly advanced past confession first in a "lock" situation would be the most likely girl for Rein to be with.

He couldn't make his mind, someone had to for him

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>>30008723

>>30008778
i can get that man. chill.
but if youre half as smart as your post makes you to be, youll understand that it will to nothing but an esclation that will bear nothing but the fruit of rage.
this is 4chan after all.
of course people wont like it when you disagree with them.

>>30008806
See, THIS guy gets it. I'm not talking about Reinhold, I'm talking about the way the vote went. I even specifically stated in a post that my remarks aren't being made on Reinhold's judgement being clouded by 'I want her because I don't want someone else to have my things', but that of anons being childish like that.

>>30008823
Then she would have said "That's the name he/you...".

>>30008833
Not really dude, see the posts from that day:
"I'm not even on her ship but I'll vote for it because it makes sense in character"
It still makes no sense, the two main reasons were:
>end waifu wars
>make sense ic
otherwise they already were on her ship

>>30008723
"That's the name of..." Marianne mutters under her breath.

WHO MARRIE WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?

>>30008823
You wouldn't say that it's the name "of" someone/something if you were referring to something you overheard. It'd have been something like "That's the name you..." or "That's the name that..."

When you say something's the name OF something, you're attributing it to a specific thing or individual.

Much the way that, if Millien came up, we'd say "That's the name of... [that one slightly less dick-ass noble we met!]".

Her saying it like this means it's a name she's attributing to an actual person.

It's possible given Giancarlo's proclivities and the fact that we've heard that his wife seems to share them that Spinelle could've married up and out of the brothel as well.

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>>30008823

It could be both, but it's more leaning towards she might possibly know who she is.

It is either
>"That's the name of the woman he said when I froze him to the wall!"
or
>"That's the name of... [person she knows]"

Again, the latter is more possible. I feel she would've said something else if it was the former.

>>30008850
I'd be inclined to agree it made sense IC if it wasn't prompted by 'fuck we might lose the Luci route? Grab flags quick!' reaction.

Anyway, this shit is gonna go nowhere but towards escalation like >>30008831 pointed out, so I'm done.

>>30008202
>>30008574
>>30008615
>>30008666
This is not helping the thread will people please stop responding to this person. He's phrasing his arguments as nicely as possible so that people wont report him for intentionally derailing the thread. But at the same time he's intentionally derailing the thread.

Please stop arguing it's not going to change anything.

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>>30008723
>"That's the name of..." Marianne mutters under her breath.
Getting outta here before the suffering really hits.

>>30008833
It felt right at the time for the players. It was an in-character decision. They comforted Lucy after the whole big ordeal and where given a difficult choice. They could either confirm the feelings that both Rein and Lucy had displayed multiple times in the Quest or leave her alone in her most vulnerable moment and deny that their were feeling between them again. At that point, it didn't even seem like a choice it was basically unanimous . It made sense in character and if you feel like it's too fast, maybe it is, but neither do I think that makes the characters invalid.

>>30008842
>>30008867
>>30008883

Ah. In that case: disregard me, I suck cocks.

>>30008888
Just a tidbit here:
>>30008574 (You)
>>30008615 (You)
>>30008666 (You)
Are all me.

>>30008202
Isn't.

Let it not be said that I can't take responsibility for my own posts. That being said, I don't take kindly to your accusation of 'intentionally derailing the thread' as if I'm trying to malevolently ruin things just by having a discussion in a place renowned for having tempers run high.

>>30008926
Pics or it didn't happen.

>>30008867
>spoiler
That said, it's probably unlikely that this is the case, given that Marianne was the one to notice it rather than Luciana.

>>30008926
It's cool. Whether or not you suck cocks remains to be seen. Shit's still up in the air for now.

>>30008823
>>30008883
>"W- what?" the Princess stares at you as if you're mad. "Who is Citrine!?"
>"Citrine... you're the only one who doesn't hate me... spinelle said that she loves me, but then she did that... why did she do that... and she won't stop..."

>>30008723

"So I didn't know just how bad I had it because it was just as bad as it always was, and then when I was around seven, Citrine ended up getting taken in as one of the working girls too because of a shipwreck or something... she'd never tell me what exactly happened with that, so I stopped asking after a while," you say.
"So those rumors that Marius Lanzmann's wife was a..." Luciana gasps.
"She's not one anymore, though," Marianne says, turning to her.
"I- I know that, she seems to be a really sweet girl," she replies. "I'm just kind of surprised that people as cheerful as Reinhold and his sister could have come from a background like that."

"Yeah, that's thanks to Citrine," you say. "She pretty much declared that I was her little brother within a month of when she started working there, and she'd take me out to buy candy and generally try to cheer me up whenever she wasn't, you know..."

There's something else that makes you sick when you think about it.

"This is also around the time when Volker and Adrien would show up... their boss would rent out the entire place for himself and Citrine was too young for him so those two would just kind of hang around and tell me stories about their adventures and all that stuff," you say.
"So Volker and this other guy didn't, um-" Luciana mumbles.
"No, they weren't interested in that kind of thing," you reply. "So they'd just kill time while their boss was with the other girls, and that usually resulted in me and Citrine getting treated to food and stuff."


>[4/?]

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>We're finally gonna learn about MUH TRAUMA!
Excitement.

>>30008934
Go ahead have this conversation on QTG all you want.
>>30001739

>>30009007
No need to. I already stated in my post here >>30008886 that I'm done pursuing the topic. I just wanted to establish what my posts were, and that my intent was never to derail.

>>30008992
so we dont mention the rapey rapey?

>>30009055
I think the rapey rapey happens later

>>30009055
I'm guessing that rape is imminent.

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>>30009055
RAPE SOON, FELLOW ANON

>>30009055
FTB

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>>30009095
>mfw tumblrtards got super mad about this episode

>>30009116
i didn't really see why, it's was just mother and daughter skinship.

>>30009156
It's clearly molestation. But, why tumblrtards think depicting something means the creator endorses it, even when it's the villain doing it, is beyond me.

>>30009116
Really? I thought it was delightfully fucked up, personally.

>>30009156
Oh you...

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>>30009055
It is coming!

>>30008992

"That was probably the happiest that I'd ever been up until that point, but Spinelle got jealous that I was spending time around other people and being happy without her, I guess," you say, placing a hand over your face. "So maybe a day after Volker and the others left for one of their trips, she called me into her room and pinned me on her bed while claiming that she loved me more than anyone else..."

Just remembering that shit makes you want to vomit.

"W- wait, you don't mean that she-" Luciana shouts.
"Yeah, she did," you say, shaking your head. "And she kept on doing it whenever she got a chance for the next five years or so, until I finally ran away to the army."
"Oh my God, that's just..." she gasps, tears streaming down her face. "Marianne, did you know about THAT!?"
"I... I had an inkling due to certain things that happened nesrly a month ago," Marianne replies, holding a hand over her mouth, "but I didn't know the details of it all, no..."


>[5/?]

>>30009116
>filename
NOPE

NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE

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>>30009202
>Suddenly Gregory and Aquaman kick the door down
>Holding a cake...

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>>30009202
>whenever she got a chance for the next five years or so

Jesus fuck.

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>>30009202
>"Yeah, she did," you say, shaking your head. "And she kept on doing it whenever she got a chance for the next five years or so, until I finally ran away to the army."
Jesus Christ, he's had more sex than all of /tg/ put together

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>>30009202
>5 Years
Fucking hell man

>>30009251
You're horrible. Say more horrible, wonderful things.

>>30009202
Five goddamn years, it's a wonder he's not more fucked up.

>>30009202
Dump him Lucy! he's used goods!

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>>30009202

>next 5 years

That's a whole bunch of /ss/

>>30009202
Guts got raped once.

Reinhold got raped around a hundred times.

So Reinhold has the latent power of 100 Guts.

My logic is flawless.

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>>30009288
What if the single rape unlocked Gut's potential and every rape after the first lowers it exponentially?

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>>30009202
Time for tears and heals! Finally!

>>30009202
And suddenly all the fun flirting and teasing from Luci stops.
I'm going to be sad.

>>30009202
>5 years

This is the sort of thing which makes serial killers. Reinhold is *far* less disturbed than he should be, by all accounts.

>>30009288
Guts beats 100 soldiers, so Reinhold can beat 10.000

>>30009288
but he didn't cut monique in half along with several pillars and the floor of the arena, he just broke his ribs

He can't be full guts yet. Maybe he needs to lose an eye.

>>30009307
Well, technically, he might qualify as a serial killer. We don't actually know our kill count.

>>30009298
>>30009288
Gentlemen...it is time for rape science.

>>30009276
Meh, repression is a hell of a comping technique.

>>30009307
well it explains his blood lust from time to time.

>>30009288
>>30009307
he did kept most of his cheerfulness even because of that fact. Does that means Reinhold.

Still, Reinhold seems to have that inner Berserk inside, from the little we have seen of him fighting.

>>30009322
ohboyherewego.jpg

>>30009307
>Reinhold is *far* less disturbed than he should be
I, uh. I wouldn't necessarily say that. He definitely has sociopathic and self-destructive tendencies, though admittedly that could be due in large part to how /tg/ plays him.

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>>30009202
...that's a LOT of /ss/.

>>30009202
>He actually did get raped
A long time ago when we got our first hints about spinelle, we thought he just got molested then the boss put an end to it.
We told people who thought he was raped to shut up. We didn't believe them.
;_______________________________;

>>30009288
Reinhold hasn't yet seen his loved one raped.
Monique == Grifith

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>>30009322
The most powerful and dangerous branch of science.

>>30009304
it's actually what he needs, it just takes time.

>>30009307

Reinhold had an outlet. I mean to get as good as he did, he spent ALL DAY practicing sword forms and mastering the Eschenwald style he learned over like a week until he was arguably better at it than Volker, who had an actual teacher for most of the time. Then once he joined the military he just did more TRAINING, and probably did it instead of going to whatever whores the other army guys did. Even as a royal guard he does TRAINING out of pure habit and is as good as nobles with personal tutors who probably started way younger than him and grew up with better nutrition and exercise.

He's probably not that mentally healthy, shit even just accidentally grazing someone's butt sent him into a PSTD flashback, but he's at least focusing on something.

>>30009335

Self-destructive, yes, but sociopathic?

>>30009356
Goodbye arm

>>30009377
See the scenes where he tries to murder the kidnappers

>>30009377
He's controlled by /tg/, anon.

You can't get more sociopathic than that.

I feel like, under the right conditions we'd go full on THIS CHAIR IS AN EYESORE. THIS CHAIR. THIS CHAIR. THIS CHAIR.

>>30009322
Well lets just start of with an arbitrary number like 1 rape per 5 days: 365 counts of rape. Which is a lot of fucking rape.

>>30009421
That's rape-dungeon tier. I wonder if Spinelle ever got pregnant.

>>30009370
it will be funny if the dummies somehow manages to get sentient and treats Rein as the death god.

>>30009377
>>30009335
>>30009402
>Reinhold confirmed for hearing the voices of /tg/ in his head
>Reinhold is actually the craziest motherfucker in this story
God forbid we meet Spinelle again. His trauma+the /tg/ voices in his head would drive him into a vicious murder spree that would make even Gregory afraid.

>>30009429
>Rein's already a daddy
Goddamnit son, when are we meeting the kid
he'll come seeking revenge for 'abandoning' his mother

>>30009429
>I wonder if Spinelle ever got pregnant.
If only Reinhold was older we could make jokes about Karel.

>>30009202
Only way this gets better is if we're dropped as damaged goods

E.g. Lucy is reconsidering and can't just straight drop Reinhold so let's it go a little before trying to stop this softly


I dunno, would be interesting to see"I want the world to burn" Reinhold

>>30009429
I think Arch mentioned that birth control is a thing in this setting. So probably not.

>>30009421
>1 rape per 5 days

She did it whenever they got the chance. She has a bedroom geared for sex and Reinhold never went to school.

She may have done it multiple times a day.

>>30009411
MONIQUE IS AN EYESORE. MONIQUE. MONIQUE. MONIQUE.[/SPOILER]

>>30009429
That reminds me, arch, are there things like magical contraceptives? Cause otherwise I have no clue how Greg only has 3 kid.

>>30009453
>but Marianne comforts him because she knows what it's like
>Marianne route is a go

>>30009454
If she LOVED Rein so much she feasibly could have gotten pregnant intentionally.

>>30009429
nah, it was a middle class whore house so they had womb wards.

>>30009421
That's one full year of rapes!
See? I can do math!

>>30009453
no

>>30009468

If she heard he was going to the army she may have TRIED to get pregnant just to force him to stay.

>>30009464
probably

>>30009202

"Th... this 'Boss' person never put a stop to it?" Luciana asks as she tries to dry her eyes with a handkerchief.
"Spinelle was the top earner at the brothel and Citrine didn't get all that much in comparison, so the Boss just dismissed it as jealous gossip when she told the first time," you say, shaking your head. "And after a while, I just kind of gave up on expecting him to do anything about it... he even caught her once when she pushed me against the wall not too long before I ran away, and all he said was 'don't damage the merchandise.'"
"That's disgusting," Marianne says with a cold glare.

You then continue your story with the next few awful years of your life. You mention Volker's death, the time you hunted down and killed a guy for beating Citrine up when you were nine, the time you killed a guy who tried to mug the two of you when you were ten, the day you finally listened to Citrine's constant pushing you to run away because you were on the brink of slaughtering everyone in that place aside from her... all of it.

And by the time you're done, you feel like you're going to vomit and both Luciana and Marianne are bawling.


>[6/?]

Monique better never bitch to us ever again in front of those two.

>>30009468
Probably not with her line of work though.

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Spinelle becomes a random encounter later on.
Calling it the fuck now.

>>30009467
No she doesn't
she was at most molested once

Reinhold dealt with 5 years of rape


Those aren't the same

>>30009468
Enh, Spinelle seems just as twisted as Reinhold should be.

So maybe but pregnant whores don't make money.

Let's not go into fetishes please, we're already in rape territory.

>>30009446
>Reinhold torn between accepting his son and killing him so as to finally move past his trauma.

>>30009459
I just used 1:5 because simple math. I would assume between work and Citrine trying to protect him that it wasn't a daily thing.
>>30009475
Yes. And that's terrible

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>>30009488
Yes!

>>30009488
>by the time you're done, you feel like you're going to vomit and both Luciana and Marianne are bawling
Feel bad that they're crying on his behalf. He needs to try and cheer them up somehow after this.

>>30009488
>you were on the brink of slaughtering everyone in that place aside from her... all of it.
HAHAHAHAHA THAT'S MY BOY

>>30009501
The kid would be like 5 tops. Don't think that is much of an issue.

>>30009480
well he kind of bolted and left to the army only telling Citrine

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>>30009488

Well, that's a good way to ruin breakfast.

>>30009498
She doesn't know what is constant rape, no.
But she's more likely to be understanding and care for someone if she knows at least what being molested is like

I can't wait for gregory or someone to come in to see both the princesses in tears and reinhold sitting with his head in his hands trying not to throw up

>>30009544
>You then continue your story with the next few awful years of your life. You mention Volker's death, the time you hunted down and killed a guy for beating Citrine up when you were nine, the time you killed a guy who tried to mug the two of you when you were ten

Jesus Christ, Rein is hardcore.

>>30009545
>"And that is the story of how we all lost our appetite."

>>30009488
So dies this mean Reinhold gets to go back before the quest ends just to buy and destroy the brothel?

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>>30009488
>And by the time you're done, you feel like you're going to vomit and both Luciana and Marianne are bawling.

>>30009494
we will fucking murder a bitch.
THE bitch.
spinelle if i wasnt clear.
we will murder her if we meet her.
yes.gif

>>30009556
>on the brink of slaughtering everyone in that place aside from her
yes, yes he is hardcore

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>>30009464
>Implying contraceptive methods didn't existed during medieval times.

>>30009553
>Monique comes in
>"I WILL DEFEND YOUR HONORS, PRINCESSES!"
>The both magic him to death

I want to hear about the time he hunted down killed a dude aged nine

seriously, how do you even manage that? when I was 9 I couldn't overpower a full grown man with both arms tied behind his back

>>30009575
>Monique comes in
>"That's fucked up Reinhold, I'll defend YOUR Honour"

>>30009571
Yeah, there were hollowed out animal guts that worked semi-effectively as condoms.


The more you know.

>>30009585
I'm guessing it involved a knife.

>>30009553
>REINHOLD
>YOU HAD ONE JOB

>>30009590
>"No, your OTHER honor."
BAD END.

>>30009585
Probably snuck into the dude's house and stabbed him in the neck as he slept.

>>30009488
This is such a great start early in the morning!

>>30009571
That image makes me uncomfortable in an extremely profound way...

>>30009585
It does not take much strength for a knife to stab a man in the neck.

>>30009585
Anime.
Reinhold's retarded strength.
Plus knives/daggers/swords.

>>30009585
never underestimate a street urchin with a knife

>>30009548
I've dealt with molestation
E.g. a girl grabbing my ass and generally making me extremely uncomfortable and a bit unsafe

Drunk huge girls are scary when you're drunk too


I'm sure that is nothing compared to actual held down and taken rape