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Why is Fang such a cool dude?

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Recent Events Summary:

Your enemies are still lacking a vital component of their plan, a component which may provide you with a window of opportunity to save Sir Flint. While Hemmelus's proposition of an ambush using the power of Chronomancy sounds feasible, it's also risky, and you decided to run the idea by your allies before coming to a decision.

You decided to consult with Hecate. She told you that Hemmelus's plan was possible with her powers, and she then assisted you on a Dream Walk. You were able to locate Donovan's dream, calm his nightmares, and tell him about the plan.

The morning after your chase, you discovered Yi Fang on his way to calling upon a fair lady, as he put it. You cloaked yourself and followed him, and he ended up at the Black Lady's room. That didn't surprise you - but what did is when he offered to take her hand in marriage as a means to unite their countries.

Melody evaded committment, but now you've somehow been roped into a double date with Abigail and the two leaders.

The four of you made your way to breakfast, and were joined by Auriel.

You've spoken with Auriel about the plan, and reminded her of a need to learn Spirit magic.

Meanwhile, you brought Abigail to the Nemesis. Her hand is now fully restored, thanks to your powers - and then some.

You've informed Fang about the truth of your origins, and the plan to save Donovan using Hecate's powers. He took it rather well, all considered.

And now, the real war meeting is about to begin.

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Time to double date for the staff of winds!

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Ability Tree

GREEN abilities have been unlocked and learned.

BLUE abilties are unlocked, but are not yet purchased.

RED abilities are revealed, but locked due to prerequisites.

UNDERLINED abilities are active-use, as opposed to passive. Not all active abilities require mana.

All Revealed Ability Descriptions:

http://pastebin.com/xaDQ0HAy

Books the Main Character has read:

http://pastebin.com/dAXR00gP

Character Sheet including learned abilities and other important information:

http://pastebin.com/64VcuCVk

Ah HAH SM, did you think not putting "Shadow Quest ###" in the subject field would deter the great me? Why, you are mistaken!

>>30823921
because he is Bad to the Bone

My knobbing tongue is ready.

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Current Statistics:

HP: 81/81
Mana: 76/76
EXP: 6

Shards of Order and Chaos:

(Retribution) - Normal
(Maker) - Normal
(Silence) - Broken
(Peace) - Normal
(Breeze) - Normal
(Hammer) - Normal
(Ardor) - Normal
{Resolve} - Normal
{Humanity} - Resonant

--Summoned--

Wisp - 1 mana to order

--Automatons--

Vita (Shade)

--Equipment--

Utility belt with purse

--Inventory--

Aurora Water Gem (pocket)
Shade (pocket)

--Teleport Anchor--

Dobshire - Hemmelus's Tower, First Floor

--Current Location--

Dobshire

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Known Mana Pools:

Jacob's Field - entrance to Hecate's tomb - Spirit
Jacob's Field - Hecate's Chamber - Spirit
Palthair Mines - Magnock's Lair - Spirit
Archon - Spirit District - Spirit
Archon - Shadow District - Shadow
Archon - Earth District - Earth
Archon - Water Distric - Water
Haven - Shadow
Abbotsford - Shadow
Aurora - Water
Va'ad - South Generator - Earth
Va'ad - North Generator - Earth
Arland - Dryfeld - Water

>>30823955

i forgot.

>>30823975
Who wants to try the Wind mana pool and see what happens?

>>30823996
not me

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Daily reminder.

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>Last time...

<I don't have to permanently integrate them to dock them,> you say. <It's a carrier ship - this is what it's build for. It's shielded against he skysever, so they should be able to hitch a ride.>

Fang frowns. <But without the additional magic, they'll only be able to fly independently for a few minutes at a time. Enough to launch a salvo, double back, dock again...and I doubt that we could use all of them at once and have them all docking and un-docking from a moving airship in the middle of the battle. Still. A little extra is better than nothing. They're already prepared in case of a preemptive strike on Archon. Let me know when you plan on flying it there.>

<Do you really think Archon might be attacked?>

<I plan for the worst.>

You think about the situation as he moves off. If Melody used the staff of winds to shield his fleet, like he'd originally envisioned, you'd have a huge amount of extra firepower. But then, you'd need some sort of explanation as to how you found the staff...

Suddenly, the date you have coming up is of vital importance.

You were sort of looking forward to spending time with Abby. Relaxing, for just a moment. Trying to get all this out of your head.

No rest for the weary.

Dammit.

>con't

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"Hey, you two." Abigail walks up to the Archmage before he gets far. "The meeting's about to start."

"Lead on," Fang says.

You catch up to the two of them. "How are we going to present our battle strategy?" you ask.

"I'll do the mouthwork," Fang says. "I was discussing the matter with Vin, Vellik and Adavan. And Arcturis."

"I'm surprised he was willing to talk."

"I don't believe he has the best of relationships with his son," Fang says, "but I do think he'll kill to get him back. In any case, Adavan had several excellent ideas that I've implemented into a more specific strategy." Fang smiles. "I get the feeling he's done this before."

"Well, he was Hecate's general," Abigail says.

"That was sarcasm, councilor."

"Oh." She smiles. "I knew that."

Eventually, you arrive in the audience chamber you met in the other day - though the long table has been replaced by a slightly larger one.

Your alliance is already there, mostly seated. Fang and Abigail take positions at the table. You sit between her and Steward; past the robot are the various representatives from the Great Forest, and then up and around the other side are those from haven, then the Blackwaters, and then Duke Vellik and Obis.

>con't

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The doors open again. You don't need your eyes to tell who it is. Sandalphon strides into the room, leading Anahita, Raphael, and Charmeine, as well as the Prince Quas Deva, the blue-tinged, well-decorated Atlantian. The angel flourishes his cape, then sits down in his chair, folding his arms.

Obis stands from his seat. He has his serious face on; none of the flippancy or irreverance he showed at the party. "My Lord Flint. Highests, and Most High. Archmage. Lords and Ladies of Venia." He bows his head. "Kan-Abar, and I, owe you a debt for your cooperation that I cannot ever repay. My country is shamed by what it has done. I hope, that in this conflict, whatever grudges are incurred do not extend too far into the future."

"Not at all," Arcturis says, "considering Nulis will be held accountable. Kan-Abar is not at guilt, Prince Vin; its self-proclaimed leader is. Justice will be delivered. To you, and your countrymen."

"...thank you."

Do you have anything to add? Or do you encourage anyone else to speak?

>remain silent
>write-in

I know we asked about Steward's servers last thread to artifact and he basically told us that he wasn't interested.

However, I still think we should artifact Steward's Super Secret Weapon so we can maximize its power before the battle.

We'll already have the Nemesis and a second Artifacted war machine could make a huge difference.

>>30824082

No.

Save it for endgame avatar of chaos world altering shit.

Telling him how to make more of his kind is enough already

>>30824064
>encourage the Councillor Fang of Archon to speak up.
Up and coming leader, speak your piece to Obis!

>>30824064
>Do you have anything to add? Or do you encourage anyone else to speak?

you are up to plate again Abigail.

>>30824064
>remain silent
Nothing to say really. Let's get into the meat of things.

>>30824064

>remain silent

We don't have to chime in every time.

>>30824064
Councillor Abby is sure to have a few words of encouragement I reckon.

>>30824064
Abigail, I choose you!

>>30824064
I say we speak about, or encourage Abby to speak about, the whole this being the first step to setting aside differences for a new peace after this is all over.

>>30824064
>remain silent

Can't really think of much to say.

>Is everything okay, SM?

>>30824021
>>30824021
>You think about the situation as he moves off. If Melody used the staff of winds to shield his fleet, like he'd originally envisioned, you'd have a huge amount of extra firepower. But then, you'd need some sort of explanation as to how you found the staff...

Reposting from last thread:
>Honestly, the best thing we could do is ask Melody to borrow it.
>and be like "yeah, fang, i didn't trust you, so I was holding out. After all, you and duke vellik said I was getting worryingly good at this negotiation thing....."

We knew melody from before the negotiations, and fang didn't know we knew.

Mention that we found who had the staff after xile - we tracked the fake down ourselves, and wanted to *make sure* flint was cured before even thinking of unleashing the weapon that could free geb, much less airship fighters upon the world.

"yeah, sorry fang, i trust you about as far as I can throw you. Which is pretty damn far, but its not indefinite"

>>30824114
>>30824115
>>30824140
>>30824141
This is only going to make them seeing her in that armor even more hilarious.

>>30824154
Personally I think she should focus on assuring Obis in this way, rather than our ulterior agenda. But of course- I think she'll do both!

>>30824163
That seems kind of stupid and unecessary since we're already working to reveal her identity to him.

>>30824163
Or we could cement Fang and Melody together by having Melody be honest about something Fang already suspects, (which if confirmed means he knows she'll have the staff) and we can avoid all the complicated lying/smoke/mirrors by getting them to work together genuinely.

>>30824189
we have already revealed we are Erebus to Fang, or we are at least his remains rejoining and gaining power.

>>30824064
I don't know what to say but I feel like we need to make a quip to Sandals some time about eating an airship's worth of mass because we were so hungry.

>>30824220
That and the previous reasons are insufficient for creating a tale where one isn't required.

Question, is a full suit of conjurable armor like Abby now has something that is unique? I don't think anyone else has ever been mentioned as having that ability

>>30824230
"Ahem. So, Sandalphon. Have you noticed your forces are approximately one airship less powerful?"

"Well, yes, I-"

"IT WAS DELICIOUS."

>>30824238
The earth mage Abby dueled in Archon covered himself with rock as armor, but that's only technically similar.
I'd like to believe what she has now to be something... extremely unique.

<This is a good moment, Abigail,> you say. <You should add to that.>

"Well said, my Lord Flint," Abigail says. "I speak for Archon when I say that there shall be no undo debts incurred here, Prince Vin. Some might say that such a price is justified, or even necessary - but I disagree. This is our first step - for all of us - to make the world a better place. To end the long stalemates, and the tensions, to unite for one purpose. The conflicts we face today will be a crucible of our peaceful future. We will not abandon your country, now, or after this war is over."

Obis's face tightens. He seems to struggle for the words. Eventually, he settles for simple. "Thank you, Abigail."

"You're very welcome, Obis."

"Your words are well chosen, councilor," Raphael says. Everyone looks to the angel. You listen carefully - this is a man you need to win over. "I wonder, though. Do you truly speak for Archon?"

"I do." She looks at Fang. "Unless the Archmage disagrees?"

Fang shakes his head. "I couldn't have put it better myself."

"In your case," Sandalphon says, "that's certainly true."

Fang and Sandalphon suddenly lock one another into a staring contest. Abigail clears her throat. Fang sighs, and pointedly turns his head down the table.

All the Highest look surprised at that, but they don't comment.

>write-in
>remain silent

>>30824305
>remain silent

>>30824305

>remain silent

They need to see Abigail as the authority in Archon, I want this moment to linger for a beat or two.

>>30824305
>Try to resist calling Sandalphon an asshole
>Fail to resist
>Demand he give Donovon back

>>30824305
Either remain silent or speak up to get everyone down to business.

>>30824305
>remain silent
Eheheheheh.

Y'know SM, when Fang told us to protect Abigail... I just can't wait for her to show off her armor to him sometime. It would be such a lovely moment.

>>30824342
second

>>30824305
Maybe we can have Auriel speak up for Haven. Just so Raphael can see her conviction on the matter. Shadow should just keep quiet for now.

>>30824064
>Or do you encourage anyone else to speak?

Abigail usually has a way with words. If she's going to take archon's torch - then sandy and the others need to get used to her in a voice of authority.
Then again, fang is probably playing to his reputation here.

Anyway, i cant word very well, i've lost track of the lies and excuses and IC-everything in wake of the re-telling.

can someone link me to it?

>>30824353
I can see it now
FANG: what the he'll?
Shadow: you said protect her
Sperry I'm not that funny

>>30824305
>>remain silent
Secretly picture Fang as a dog being chided by its master.

>>30824379
That makes us the other dog, anon.

>>30824378
And auto correct strikes again

>>30824353
I hope she does sometime, because that also shows him that we got her hand back. I can imagine she'd be near giddy to show him at least just that.

>have a meeting
>everyone fails a spot check on abbys hand

>>30824447
She's hiding it.

>>30824305
"Gentlemen, please. This isn't a meeting to clash at, if you'd be so kind as to save it for the evening."

>>30824447
it's highly translucent

>>30824469
...He already turned away.

>>30824447
It's invisible.

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You want that moment to sit in their minds - Abigail ultimately being in charge of Archon's policy - and so you remain silent.

You notice that Melody seems quite interested in this, too. You weren't thinking about what you'd said to her earlier, but it's good evidence for your case that Fang is moving away from his well-worn stance as an iron-fisted ruler.

"Archmage," Arcturis says, "as we stated earlier...would you care to take the lead on our current strategy?"

"Certainly," Fang says. "If I might have the floor, Prince Vin?"

"By all means." Obis sits down.

Fang stands and moves to the end of the room. A map is already set up there - it's a relatively close up view of the border region of Kelvere and Arland. There's a valley south of Evinbrook between the Tairns and the Kanian Hills which, after the capital, is labeled the Kanian Basin.

"Our strategy lies on luring in and fighting their superior numerical force on our terms," Fang says. "We can use the territory south of Evinbrook - the basin - to create a favorable strategic situation."

>con't

>>30824447
they can't see it, she's wearing a glove.

Did the east coast storms take down more internet just now?

>>30824708
Mine is fine.

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He channels a bit of magic; you sense something flash with Spirit from in his robes. A colorful overlay appears over a map of the northern border of Archon.

"In red, outside of the capital, you can see the Kanian forces. This is a rough estimate of their organization based on what our scouts have been able to observe. They have two major blocks of troops, mostly demons, each one led by a demon lord. Behind them are three smaller units, a more even mix of Kanian spearmen, mages, and more summoned demons."

He taps the lower section of the map. "These are the ideal positions of our forces at the start of the battle, before engaging the enemy." His finger points out each color in turn.

"Black is Vampiria; Grey, the constructs from Va'ad.

"Green is Arland, Archon is in Orange.

"Duke Vellik's forces are gold. Forces from Haven, the Great Forest, and Felnoir are combined to form the Teal block."

He drags his finger lower. "Finally, the imperial forces are in pink, and the Atlantians in blue."

"Why," Sandalphon asks, "are we pink?"

"Gold was taken," Fang says. "Now. Our goal will be to lure and string the enemy force across the valley. Simultaneously, we will launch a targeted strike on the summoners in Kan-Abar.

"The green and orange arrows represent our first attack. Arland, using its mobility, will skermish with the demons, avoiding locking their lines together. Archon's mages will support from behind, with a large wing of the Black Lady's forces moving up the river and to the right." He taps the small grey block and the larger black block to the east of the Tairns. "Here, the constructs and the Lady's main forces lie in wait, hiding from detection on the opposite side of the river." He taps the large U-shaped arrow. "After attacking, we make a strategic retreat back down into the valley. If they don't follow, we continue to hit them until they do. Eventually, they'll move."

>con't
>I'm writing this as I go so updates will take a bit

>>30824732
>"Why," Sandalphon asks, "are we pink?"

>"Gold was taken," Fang says.

Perfect.

>>30824732
>why are we pink
based fang

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>>30824540
strategy: fuck kan-abar literally

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>>30824732
>"Why," Sandalphon asks, "are we pink?"
>"Gold was taken," Fang says

>>30824732
It's almost a shame Sandalphon has to die. The Fang/Sandal quips are fun.

>>30824732
So we're attempting what the Germans tried in WWII, something the Persians nearly perfected...

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"How can you be sure?" Anahita asks. "Won't they suspect a trap?"

"Maybe," Fang says, "but unlike us, they're looking for this fight. They have confidence in their superior force - they'll care less about the attrition. They'll be enticed by the opportunity to crush us on relatively open ground. That's the bait we use to get them out from their entrenchment at Evinbook. And if they don't move, they'll die by a thousand cuts as Arland's cavalry slices open their front lines time and again."

"Fine," she says. "Continue."

"At this point, we withdraw and bunch up to this fallback point." Fang channels again, and the positions of the blocks move. New arrows draw themselves over the map. "Arland and Archon hold position and engage in a heavier conflict. This is the most sensitive part of the plan. The Black Lady's smaller force will move up the river in a feigned flank attack. This is designed to split the enemy forces."

He draws a triangle with his finger around the northern green, orange, and black blocks. "We'll appear to be attempting a flank along the river with a smaller force, while making ourselves a wedge. In reality, we're baiting them into attempting their own flanking maneuver. They'll see the weak swinging arm from Vampiria and think to simply drive them into the river. At the same time, their vastly larger battalion will try to move deeper into the valley and swing down around us. I've predicted their movements with the red arrows.

"This is the most dangerous time," Fang says. "If we're too slow, there's a real chance we could be encapsulated. But I don't think that will happen, because we still have plenty of room to withdraw - and withdraw we shall, back right where we came from. The northeastern segement of the Kanians will see us apparently abandoning Vampiria to avoid the larger, more devastating flank, and press forward.

"And that," Fang says, "is when we make our move."

>con't

How much does Fang know about each force? Hell, how much do WE know about each force?

These aren't standard troops he's ordering. A good chunk of them aren't human. What I'm getting at is there may be a better way to distribute our soldiers if we learn a bit more about them.

>>30824889
> they'll care less
I was almost ready to jump on this because "could care less" is a stupid misuse of "couldn't care less," but then I realized that it doesn't mean that at all and I'm just acting on habit; the sentence makes perfect sense -- they'll care less because of superior force.

That moment when you realize that you've become an instinctual Grammar Nazi is a frightening one.

>>30824915

He's a 700 year old dictator, I'd imagine he knows a lot more about the specifics than Shadow does IC or we as player's know.

We should see how the other people in the room react to Fang's plan before we chime in ourselves. Hopefully SM plans on having some of the other miltary-minded characters chime in with suggestions or changes and then give us the opportunity to choose what we like.

>>30824915
I'd say Fang knows quite a bit, considering everything he's saying right now. Especially considering how he's holding the Imperial and Haven forces in reserve, as I think the next post will show them being the clinching pins on the Kanian forces- the hard strike forces.

Nicely keeping Havens and Sandalphons forces close together, with the Large archon block as well. Which I assume is part of the deeper plan.

So now that Fang knows, should we Servant him and Melody?

I mean, even if they're already really strong, it feels like every little bit could help.

>>30824966
Do it anyway. Shadow's always weird like that. Imagine the 'the hell, Shadow?' moment as Shadow interrupts this tense meeting with:

"No, that's wrong."
"What?"
"It's 'couldn't care less'."
"W-What?"
"You said it wrong. It's not 'could care less', it's 'couldn't care less'."
"Why are you bringing it up--"
"Because it's wrong."
"But--"
"It's wrong."

>>30824997
na.

hey sm how does it feel to know that over the course of the past 10 threads you have

1) nearly driven an anon to OD
2) found out a ship in the US Navy is actively following your threads

pretty fackin cool. keep it up

>>30825012
The days of the autism monster... Now I have to reread them again for the feelings.

>>30825026
and we discovered that an anon once shit his pants, refusing to go to the bathroom for fear of missing a vote.

>>30825012
"And while we're at it, 'irregardless' isn't a real word."
"Sha- John, how is that relevant to anything?"
"It's NOT A WORD."

Yes, I had to delete my post because of a simple typo. If I didn't, it would ruin the entire premise of Grammar Nazi Shadow.

>>30825049

oh fuck that actually happened? hahahahahaahahahaahaah oh my god i love this fucking board

>>30825049
A vote for the earth party, no less. Brown begets brown.

>>30824997We still cant really trust them, Fang because he's Fang, and the Black lady we really know nothing about.
That can be rectified if we take the time to talk to her more but at this point im against it.

It would be funny to do it as a wedding present though.
Really, the first person we should have Servant'd is Donovan, as soon as we figured out the whole Chaos demon feeding on his soul thing.

>>30825076
>Black lady we really know nothing about.
...reread the archive, friend. The most recent 40 threads should help that well.

>>30825066
"I refuse to participate in a united effort where the basic standard of proper speech isn't even upheld correctly. Without proper grammar, there is only anarchy. And with anarchy, how can we ever hope to achieve peace?"

>>30825076

Servanting Donovan has been discussed and shot down endlessly because Flint's power level would drop significantly as a result.

I do support Servanting Melody and Fang though - we can actually withdraw our power back from them if they misbehave, if you read the power description.

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>>30825049
>>30825072
>>30825073

EARTH PARTY STRONK, EARTH PARTY HAS NO LACK OF RESOLVE.

>>30825076
Servanting Donovan wouldn't have stopped the Shel'Kath from power the sigil with his light soul, word of god.

im not
>>30825076

but

>>30825085

lets be real we know her name, she was bffs with fang once upon a time, and she trained under hemmelus. that's all there is to it. there's kind of a gap in there that's unaccounted for; there may be a reason people don't like vampiria beyond the 'omg shadoe'

>>30825104
Personally, my only reason for not wanting to is that we have dumped quite a bit of experience in to other people lately and I'd like to develop ourselves as bit more

>>30825085
I just got done reading the entire archive from beginning to end. We've barely had 3 conversations with her. Theres people closer to us that are more deserving.

>>30825066
>>30825090
"And while we're at it, I would like to propose finding a new word to describe the beings known as angels. The current word sounds to similar to 'angle,' which can lead to miss-communication. I vote we begin calling them 'shitsuckers' as of today."

>>30825133
We're gonna have to rely on other people though, considering the PLAN.

>>30825138
"..Okay, maybe that last one was a bit too much."

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"While all this is happening, our southern forces, lying in wait, will begin to move north," Fang says. "They will engage and pin the wide, flanking arm of the enemy force deep within the valley, giving us time to consolidate.

"At the same time, the northern part of their army - which split off, seeing easy prey trapped by the river - will be blasted backward by Vampiria's full forces as it fords the river. The constructs shall create a firm cap at the north end of the valley. Without a larger blocker, she'll chew right through them and take out a good portion of their mages, as opposed to more replaceable demons. The empire and Atlantis will move from the south, keeping the demonic battalion busy and unable to support their human mages. With our continue retreat and subsequent reinforcement, we'll have them in this position - spread through the valley, disorganized, and trapped. The Duke, as well as the Great Forest Alliance, will play a supportive role as a reserve force, shoring our gaps and responding to any emergency situations."

Fang taps the paper. "Once we have them in this position, we let loose with the big guns. It will be important to keep the Demon Lords focused on this fight. From there, it's a matter of time. The strike team in Kan-Abar will move to take out their summoners, in particular, Nulis, who, if our intelligence is correct, is the direct link for at least two Demon Lords."

>con't

>>30825127
>>lets be real we know her name, she was bffs with fang once upon a time, and she trained under hemmelus. that's all there is to it. there's kind of a gap in there that's unaccounted for; there may be a reason people don't like vampiria beyond the 'omg shadoe'

Dis guy. i'd at least want to go take a look at the country she governs before committing to servanting her.

Sandalphon nods. "Your plan is sound. But perhaps the imperial forces could be split, helping to cap both the north and south?"

Fang shakes his head. "The constructs make a small block, but they're more powerful than you give them credit for. I want to be more cautious than that, besides. They can summon more demons - we'll be facing the largest battalion in the deepest part of the valley. On top of that, we have almost no time to train our forces in acting in any effective mixture. It's best if our armies keep together, with those they know best, as much as possible."

"What about the navies?" Auriel asks. "I'm sure we won't be sitting back and letting this happen."

"Councilor Xu?" Fang says.

Yong Xu stands. "Adding together our forces," he says, "our alliance has, available, all 4 ships from Archon, 3 from Vampiria, all 3 from Arland, 4 from the empire, and 1 from Haven - a total of 15. Kan-Abar, along with the airships they captured in Kelvere, has 8; and that's assuming they all arrive at this battle, which they won't. We'll have vastly superior naval firepower. We can't strike too early, or we'll overplay our hand. Once we get them where we want them, we'll bring up the others, and from there, it'll be a matter of running them off. Once we've established control over the basin's airspace, we'll be able to safely traverse to lower altitudes and lay down real fire support. That should help disperse them over the valley, as well, and keep the formations separated."

"Hmm..." Sandalphon rubs his chin, considering the map on the wall.

Do you have opinions, or ideas?

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>>30825107
>upgrade shit

>>30825179

the empire can only contribute 2 airships actually, I am pretty sure. Should we mention that?

>>30825212
>the empire can only contribute 2 airships actually, I am pretty sure

How come?

Known status of Empire ships:

Ring City/Empire/Ulund - 7 Airships
>The Velarion (docked, no dynamo)
>The Noiralev (wrecked)
>The Ragnarok (Nemesized)
>The Red Sun
>The Premonition (under repair, will be ready for battle)
>The Higher Calling
>The Way of Light

I count four.

>>30825179
Yeah, ask who's going to donate the 10 million shells we will be pocket-bombing them with

>>30825179
"What do we know about the demon lords themselves? Given their nature I would be surprised if there wasn't any clashes between the lords, despite their cumulative focus on a single goal."

"It might be best to think of the opponent not as a unified front, but another coalition as we are with each force divided depending on their lord."

"Finally, what kinds of demons will we be facing?"

>>30825179

"I have a certain aptitude for bringing down airships, as it so happens...If managed to bring several down just prior to the fighting, would that be more useful than my assistance on the ground?"

I know we're supposed to be part of the assassination team, but if we can set the stage for victory prior to our strike, we should do so.

>>30825179
I think Sandals is looking for a way to get some angels in on the Kan-Abar strike team so we should prepare for that.

So far I like the plan but the chance of getting pinned during that flank feint seems a little risky. It might be best to have our air fleet also come in from the west during that time.

>>30825212
For the sake of Fairness maybe.
Since were speaking of aerial battles, maybe A portion of the Flying/gliding units from the robots could be put to better use harassing the ground from the airships?

>>30825246

oh i must have misremembered. i thought the empire had 4 originally, and lost two

that brings up the question as to why Xu knew that though. I didn't know the loss of the Ragnarok was common knowledge, unless i haven't been paying attention which would be expected.

>>30825285

we should probably bring up the strike team thing we were talking about. Where do they play in? I thought the robits were going to join our assault on Kelvere itself, unless that's a different battle. im not entirely sober atm

>>30825285
Quoting my own post... yes, I realize that I am treating the various demon lords as the actual owners and runners of this whole business. They pretty much are if the summoners were retarded enough to bring that many in.

>>30825299
Im now imagining us pocketing one of the airships before Hypersonic Schattenkrieg'ing our way through the enemy lines all the way to Kan-Abar.

That would probably be dumb, but it's a cool mental image

>>30825299

No support for my post here? I think it would be a pretty good idea to secure the airspace ASAP - our combined Navies can and will keep the Demon forces busy will we surgical strike into the mages.

>>30825345
why would the demon lords fight each other when they have the unifying goal of wanting to be free to roam this world and pillage and conquer?

>>30825325
>i haven't been paying attention which would be expected.
>im not entirely sober atm

SM, driving the players to alcoholism.

>>30825306
I'd hope we can get them to leave it up to our forces on the strike team, if not only simply because that's going to let us get away with the Earth pool manaport idea which Fang expanded upon last time. Which we'll have to get to and touch eventually before this whole business. Might be a good idea to ask Obis of it's exact location beforehand.

>>30825345
>>30825285
I'll second asking anything we know specifically about the demon lords themselves, getting any known weaknesses out and obvious.

>>30825325
>the loss of the Ragnarok was common knowledge

Well, it basically vanished into midair because you stole it. The official story Sandalphon put out is heavily damaged and under repair. Abigail and Ila didn't contest that part because they didn't want to give away your abilities.

>>30825373

I was actually just thinking that we'd stealth onto one or two of the airships and then eat their Dynamos.

Sticking around to actually fight on-board would be a waste of time.

>>30825374
we are going with the strike team to Kan-Abar.

>>30825179
Ask where our heavy hitters like the Black Lady, Fang, Sandalphon, and Arcturus will be positioned.

>>30825393

I understand, but I don't see why we can't be an active participant in the battle while our forces are busy engaging on the ground.

It seems like Fang is going to send in the strike-team only after we have the enemy forces pinned and in disarray - if that's the case I think we could make a huge difference in the battle for air power.

>>30825380

pls its thursday and im in college. if im not drinking im doing something wrong

>>30825383
>>30825246

thank you for the clarification SM, and also the reminder about the velarion

since its basically a hunk of useless fucking metal at the moment, we could have the nemesis cannibalize its weaponry to add to our firepowah. It's not like the Ring City is using the thing anyway.

>>30825299
It would be great if we could SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK our way up to each enemy airship, pocket it, and then transport it back to the Nemesis for instantaneous cannibalization.

The Nemesis can presumably remain cloaked throughout the process, but someone is bound to notice an entire airship crew raining down from the sky.

>>30825424
>>30825393
>>30825374
>>30825393
From what Auriel said last time the Nemesis itself is remaining on the battlefield for the Chronomancy support, while the Strike Team is already going after the summoners from within Kan-Abar, via Yi Fangs idea to "abuse" our manaporting shenanigans.

I think we need more info on the strike force. It seems people think we'll have time for fighting in this main battle before porting over there when I'm not really sure since we have to coordinate an entire fucking army.

>>30825179
Also, ask about how we'll communicate between the forces when something inevitably goes wrong. Perhaps some of the shadow mages could function as messengers?

>>30825464

I'm the guy who keeps posting about the naval stuff, but I agree with you. I assumed that we'd have time.

If we don't and we have to support the strike-team only, that's okay too.

>>30825392
This. We can Pocket at least one airship, but we don't have any room for more.

Hopefully we can take out at least two airships, maybe three, in this manner.

>>30825449
That would make it a good idea for us to set our teleport anchor to the Nemesis right?

>>30825501
It doesn't work like that for moving objects.

>>30825501
Or an anchor to the edge of where the battlefield will be, since an anchor to the airship will just be to that space. The measure would be efficient for getting us out of Kan-Abar after the summoners get defeated, for sure.

"Do we have any specific intelligence on the demon lords themselves?" you ask Fang.

"We know some details on three," Fang says. "First is the most straightforward. It didn't use magic in the fight that was observed, but showed extreme physical strength and physical regeneration. Severed parts began to regrow on their own into lesser versions of itself.

"Second, a demon that apparently specializes in poison. My scouts had a teleportation prepared for a faster escape, which is the only reason one of them lived long enough to tell us what happened. The demon vaporized to gas. The veins of the man that breathed that gas ran black, and he fell dead almost instantly. The man that made it back to me was scratched by the demon. A similar poison spread through him at a slower rate. My men were unable to devise a cure; he was dead in 12 hours.

"We have reports from Lord Waterford on the third demon," Fang continues. "It seems to be balanced, if a bit more mundane - physically powerful, but more dangerous from its magic and the variety of attacks is possesses."

"Anything on the fourth?" Arcturis asks.

"No. It seems to have maintained a defensive posture in Kan-Abar itself. Every scout that has been sent failed to report anything useful or has not returned at all."

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>>30825479

Magical communication lines are standard for all armies.

Modern Venian armies have their command structures arranged in duplicate (or triplicate, for Kan-Abar) to mitigate the effects of sudden magical death. Battalions are fractured into smaller units which are each protected by one of several mages; essentially; the normal soldiers clash while the mages try to take on another out. Once a unit's magical support falls, the rest are quick to follow.

Siege weapons are only rarely used, and tend to be magical in nature. Airships and magic make quaint items like catapults and battering rams relatively obsolete.

>>30825525
>out of Kan-Abar
and closer to the important conflict, where the chronomancy and sigil-on-penta stuff will be happening.
>forgot to add

Guys.

We've got to transport a whole fucking army with this teleport thing.

We can't just have them sitting on a battlefield, that'll cause a lot of problems. What if they get attack before we leave?

>>30825537
Ila and Abby would be best to take on the poison guy since they're immune.

We are too but we'll likely be taking on that fourth one and probably another.

>>30825551

Uh.

This seems tactically awesome, but I think that if we do this too early in the battle, whatever army we teleport will just get buttfucked by the 4th Demon Lord.

>>30825583
Except we'll be with the Strike force, in Kan-Abar.

>>30825596
Which is where the fourth one will be.

It's been in a defensive position in Kan-Abar and only two are at the main battle.

Hello anons I've noticed some interesting things regarding Hemmelus' plans and just how much coordination they require on the parts of us and our trusted allies, so I thought I'd try to outline some of them in the middle of this mess of planning!

First measure:
-The D-Lords need to attempt summoning a Fifth in order for Sandy to lay the Sigil down in the first place.
>this means we can't kill the summoners too early if we want Donny
>>same for stopping the sigil itself, can't find it if he doesn't bring it out
>>>this also means that Sandy will wait for the right time the D-Lords summon at the battle, potentially putting our allies in harms way to ensure the D-Lords' have a chance to get him the final piece for Hyperions summoning.

Second measure:
-The Chronomancy attempt relies on Hecate and Hemmelus working together at the right time for the expressed purpose of giving us enough time to kill the summoners and our allies enough time to up their measures against Sandalphon.
>Hecate and Hemmelus will be working together so it may be good to get them on the same page and have them meet, since he'll be needing her power and be the one coordinating it.
>>this is assuming that our immediate allies which are essential for this measure won't be injured or killed while Sandy anticipates the right moment the D-Lords try to penta summon, so it would be a good idea to ensure that they (Hemmelus, Adavan) are well protected however we can.

I just can't help but feel like we're missing something here. Considering all the crazy shit we and our allies can pull off this seems a little too vanilla for a big ass war.

Third measure:
-We need to kill the summoners in Kan-Abar after (or just as) Sandalphon has arrayed the Sigil onto the Penta summoning and after the Chronomancy has been initiated as intended if we wish to save Donny and stop the Sigil summoning of Hyperion, and all within the time limit the D-Lords and Sandy have been caught within it.
>killing the summoners defeats the D-Lords. If we don't do it quickly enough then they'll do what they want, which is what we don't want. It has to be finished before the Chronomancy expires, although killing them as the Chronomancy begins is better, we just have to time it WELL.
>>if we take too much time and don't arrive at the battlefield before the chronomancy finishes, well, we won't be there when it does, and won't be present for intervening in the aftermath results. This is also combined with the issue of Obis dealing with Kullia, and brother.

Fourth measure:
-The aftermath of all of this, IF it succeeds the way Hemmelus plans it.
>The D-Lords are desummoned, many of our allied forces will likely have suffered losses, Sandalphon will be very very mad, and the world will know Hecate is alive.
>>Anything can happen.

Also don't forget to meditate our shards regularly in the upcoming days! They have passive stat boosts as well!

TOO MUCH STUFF GOING ON

>>30825624
We could visit the Shiprakers.

Unless anyone wants to add something now, I can start the next update.

>write-in
>remain silent for the moment

>>30825624
We're forgetting the Demon Lords let out a horrible curse when they die.

Which we don't know how to deal with.

>>30825655

Ask Fang when he wants to deploy the strike-team.

Do we have enough time to take battle actions prior to striking down? Even bringing down a single airship could make a difference.

>>30825655
I think we should get info on the strike team.

If that's what's coming up next than remain silent. If not bring it up.

>>30825615
>>30825634

>>30825655
If there are any extreme misunderstanding within these SM I'm far too tired to perceive them!
So if there's a large misconception there please indicate it...

>>30825624
The only thoughts I had was that it might be worth grabbing the Duke's cargo airship wreckage and feeding it to the Nemesis?

>>30825660

Do they still release the curse if they just get desummoned?

Flint actually KILLED a Demon Lord last time.

>>30825655
>expand on the strike team pls

>>30825668
>>30825692
>>30825669
All of these.

>>30825673

It sounds like you have a firm grasp of the situation.

The demon lords are needed for the sigil...so if you kill them early, it won't do you any good. The strike team must be precisely timed.

>elaborating on strike team

>>30825655
"SO FANG, WHEN DO WE RESCUE DONOVAN???""

>>30825743
>It sounds like you have a firm grasp of the situation.
I was hoping you'd say that that was the incorrect understanding I had! Because we've historically sucked at precision timing!

Oh dear god we're doomed!

So, lemme get this straight. Abigail has a super awesome power armor suit based on her hand?
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyVV5_orBo

The aftermath of this plan is going to be Melody, Fang, Abby, and Ila (well, mainly them) VS Sandalgong.

Can they take him?

>>30825807
...We'll have to get there fast when it comes to it.

"Archmage, what are your plans for the strike team?"

"The strike team needs to be made up of two groups," he says. "The first group provides a distraction that enables the second group to penetrate the central fortress and reach the summoners. In either case, it's going to be an extremely dangerous job. The fourth demon lord will probably be on-site in Kan-Abar." <At least until they sigil arrives at the battle,> he tells you privately. "John, if you're comfortable with it, I'd prefer to have you there. You're powerful and capable of stealth. You should lead the team that infiltrates the palace, along with the Prince Vin, whom I fear will walk to Kan-Abar even if you refuse to take him."

"You have me, Archmage," he says. "The fight against Nulis is my fight. I won't be denied."

"It seems to me," Sandalphon says, "that the distraction needs to be a group that, in the worst case, can deal with the last demon lord in a toe-to-toe battle." He looks at Fang. "I'm the only one capable of that."

What is your response?

>write-in

>>30825758

Not to sound like an idiot, but why wouldn't we kill a Demon Lord if we can?

Sandalfaggot is likely going to flip a shit and attack us anyways.

With Sandaldick dead, we should be able to take our time and locate Flint. Ring City needs Flint alive much more than we do, so he's not in any personal danger with one Demon Lord dead.

>>30825830
"How about we both be on the same part of the strike team, Most High?"

>>30825830
"Steward has 003 prepared to join the strike force. It should be able to hold off a Demon Lord."

>>30825830

Quickly check with Fang.

<Unfortunately, I think Sandalfucker is right. Have any objections?>

>>30825830
"Sandalphon, the ones going into Kan-Abar are to be assassins. They need to be stealth oriented at least at first. You may be powerful but the instant you step foot within a mile of the city every demon there will know you are there."

>>30825862
Very good point there, unless he can somehow hide his magical presence.

>>30825840
Because Hemmelus' plan is the One way that we save Donny AND take out the Sigil... it's the central point of why he suggested the Chronomancy in the first place.

Guys, Sandals wants on the strike team in order to keep us from killing the summoners until his plan is ready. We kind of don't want the guy behind all this to meet up with his conspirators if we do want to eventually take these summoners out.

On the other hand, removing Sandals from the main battle could give our allies a better shot at pulling off the chronomancy plan.

So it's really down to what we'd prefer.

>>30825830
"Since I obtained my Eclipse upgrade, Sandalphon, I believe I have a very good chance against a demon lord myself."

"And since I upgraded Abigail, so too does she!"

Don't say this.

>>30825886
From my perspective it's a gamble.

If we can get the other two reasonable Highest on our side I'd like Sandy to come with us even if it's a huge risk to our operation there since then we'd have just that one bitch Highest to protect the Sigil against our attack.

Sandalphon knows we'd oppose him being on the strike team...
He knows what would happen if it succeeded too soon...
Hmmm.

>>30825886
Take him out of the battle. If we get Raphael on our team, our plan becomes nearly impossible to stop.

There's no way in hell Sandalphon wouldn't personally be at the sigil. I bet anything it's inside the palace.

>>30825830
I find it strange that Sandy doesn't want to oversee the Sigil. This must mean he's either trying to get in contact with someone at Kan-Abar or he's just put keeping the summoners alive for long enough at the highest priority.

Putting Sandy on the strike team increases our chance of saving Donovan, but it decreases our chances of actually winning the war. We NEED to stop those summoners real quick after the Sigil activates and if Sandy stops us we've fucked the world over.

>>30825830

the entire point of sending in a stealthy strike team is so that we don't have to deal with the demon lord

why would you bring a tank on a spec ops mission that's straight dumb

>>30825941
That's a good point.

>>30825956
Were you not paying attention.

There's going to be a distraction team and a stealth team on the strike force.

Sandy is volunteering for the distraction team that will fight the Demon Lord.

>>30825927
>>30825886
So you don't think Sandalphon is the one that's going to array the sigil on the penta summoning?

Because if he isn't, that's big trouble.
If he is, then wherever he is he's going to plan to use the sigil.

It almost sounds to me like he wants to come to Kan-Abar, so the demon lords will teleport in the others to protect the summoners, attempt their penta and then sigil it right in Kan-Abar to summon Hyperion and take out the demon lords as well to appear as a hero in the last moment to the Kanian people.

If anything I suggest we project these suspicions to Fang for some of his input.

>>30825983
This is a very good point.

>>30825980

i thought we established that the robits giant mecha kaiju was going to be used for that purpose

>>30825830

"On the contrary, Highest. I hope to make you the center of the battlefield - I want you to be the hammer that breaks the spines of the opposing forces - perhaps we can place you at the forefront of the battle. And if you meet a Demon Lord on the open field, then even better."

"Leave sneaking to the Shadow Mages - it is our specialty."

>>30825830
<While that may be the case, are you capable of any sort of magical stealth? Do you have any way of shielding your presence? Like you mentioned, the worst case scenario is being forced into a confrontation with the demon lord... which will undoubtedly happen when we arrive in kan-abar with a walking beacon of light magic.>

>>30826000
I guess nows the time to ask steward if his secret weapon is demon-lord proofed.

>>30826000
We did. Sandy is trying to say he's the only one that can hold off the demon lord.

"Most High," you say, "with all due respect, we need to use caution, at least at first. Your power is formidable, but when we reach Kan-Abar, every demon within a mile of the city will know you're there."

"But that's the point," he says. "Let them come. They'll rush out to stop me. I'll empty the city. It'll give you a much easier time."

"I also believe that Steward has his own weapon prepared to join the strike force."

"Hmm?" Sandalphon taps the table. "I had assumed that weapon would be making up for his small numbers when his battalion caps the northern end of the valley."

Steward looks at you. "...I have reached a similar conclusion, John. I will need 003 to play the role I currently occupy in the Archmage's plan of attack."

You frown in thought.

Your own current battle strategy makes Sandalphon the best choice to accompany you to Kan-Abar...but he's the very man that wants to use the demons to power his sigil. If you got far enough, he might very well stop you himself from doing any real damage. Any help he'd give you would be superficial.

But then, if he's not at the battle...your allies could probably get away with a lot more, and their plans wouldn't be nearly as disturbed.

But there's more to it than that. You're positive Sandalphon would want to oversee the sigil personally - but he's offering to take himself out of the battle, right where the sigil has to be positioned. Like you, he must have some faster mode of transportation to make a quick exit from Kan-Abar. Or maybe he's even depending on the demon lord for that. If they can call each other, it stands to reason that he might hitch a ride...

You might be able to get the Most High to back down from coming along on the strike team. But who will replace him? And do you really want to, besides?

What do you do?

>>30826020
I see, I see. Hmm. I'll think some more on this, SM.

>>30826020

Replace Sandalphon with Melody and the Staff of the Winds. This achieves multiple goals.

1) Keeps Sandalphon away from the Sigil which is probably in Kan-Abar.

2) Prevents Sandalphon from collaborating with Demon Lords in the area, and spoiling our surprise attack. If he's part of our strike team, he might just fucking TELL the Demon Lords there's another force.

3) Melody is much stealthier than Sandalphon - and with the Staff of the Winds, and together with us, we'll be able to fight a Demon Lord.

>>30826020
"Why not Lord Raphael and Lady Anahita?"

>>30826020
What about Melody? Sandalphon respects her power, and she has shadow element.

>>30826068
But... that takes Melody away from leading the forces of vampiria, which is not a good idea, as the battle will depend on her there.

...although if it weren't for that fact it would be fucking perfect.

>>30826068
>>30826086
Without the Staff of Winds we can't keep Yi Fang's air bots going.

Melody is better with the main force. Especially since her forces play a large role in pinning the Kanian's.

>>30826020

ok so lets see who could we bring along to go toe-to-toe with a demon lord

Black Lady
Fang
uh
... well i guess it would take like 5 mins to get Leviathan put back together wouldn't it? take our half, acquire the keystone of atlantis 2+2

its an option but i am still p wary about reviving the guy

>>30826020
"How about Councillor Fang?"

Don't say this.

>>30826068
I thought we wanted her to bolster our airships, and I don't think the Staff is common knowledge yet.

>>30826108
Leviathan is literally a leviathan. I bigass water serpent.

He's less sneaky than Sandalphon.

Why not Raphael and Anahita?

Raphael has already fought a demon lord.

>>30826128
Well sandles said he didunt wanna be sneaky so THERE

>>30826068
No, Melody needs to say with the Min Forces and use the Staff to keep the Sever off all our fighters, assuming we can convince her to use it. That'd also leave the other airships, and any angels in the main battle free to fly while the demons cannot. Plus, like you said, she's stealthy which isnt really what we need for a distraction.

>>30826128
As Sandy pointed out, we're not looking for him to be sneaky, but be a distraction.

>>30826020
Take him along with us, I'm not sure why we're debating this.

We need his plan to work for just long enough for us to turn the tables, so if he wants to go to Kan-Abar, then he goes to Kan-Abar.

>>30826095

Put Sandalphon at the head of Vampiria's army, then.

>>30826098

Eh, this is actually a good point. I don't suppose we could just give the Staff to Yi Fang then? I still think we should Servant both Fang and Melody on general power boost purposes.

>>30826150
*main forces

>>30826157
>Put Sandalphon at the head of Vampiria's army, then.
Are you fucking retarded?

>>30826167

Well, shit. Just trying to bring up options here, guys.

I hate to see Sandalphon decide our own fucking battle strategy, even if our plan depends on him thinking he's in control.

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>>30826128

i thought we were looking at how to best get the city to flip the fuck out. bigass water serpent is kind of scary, and to top it all off kan-abar is right on the ocean. it's leviathan's turf

the demon lord guarding the palace is like 'what the FUCK its a Gyarados,' bails on the palace, and we sneak in while leviathan just throws a shitfit

mission accomplished

>>30826157
>>Put Sandalphon at the head of Vampiria's army, then.
Thats an even worse idea then taking Sandalphon with us. and they HATE each other.

>>Eh, this is actually a good point. I don't suppose we could just give the Staff to Yi Fang then?
I'll see this happening when She accepts his marriage invitation, by which I mean, no time soon.

>>30826020
Sandalphon is right, but.

"No matter how powerful the mage is, a knife in the back will seriously cramp their style. I understand that the angels you have worked with all have a great deal of experience commanding armies-and are respected more besides. Therefore I am not concerned about your lack of leadership over your own forces, you need someone with you, if only to watch your back."

And we can put someone to keep an eye on him.

>>30826020
Don't debate, if he crosses us, we can destroy him.

Honestly, most of our plans seem to revolve around things we haven't set up yet and we're being asked for a decision now.

>>30826194
No, it was a pretty good idea, but I just dont think we could get leviathan free, AND in fighting shape before the battle

>>30826068
This guy's got a point. We can't let Sandalphon make contact with the demon lords.

So why not bring Raphael and Anahita along? One for experience against Demon Lords, and the other as Sandalphon's lackey so he thinks he has a spy.

>>30826194
I'd say we should get the other half of Leviathan, and then release him at a critical moment, like when Sandalphon reveals "Phase Two" of his plan.

>>30826020
kinda want to bring him with us so that we can eat him when things inevitably go tits-up. Probably worth 60+xp

>>30826224
Because the sigil is probably in Kan-Abar, if he wants to go there. And if it isn't, that means that the sigil won't be as protected because Sandalphon will be with us.

>>30826230
Still not all that comfortable with eating a fellow Elemental Lord. He was a dick, but that doesn't mean he deserves getting half-eaten.

>>30826224

Supporting this version of the plan.

Keep Sandalphon in the main battle. Melody stays in the main battle with the Staff of the Winds.

We bring our stealth strike team - Raphael and Anahita cover each others backs and make a distraction for us. We don't need them to fight the Demon Lord to a standstill, just keep him busy.

>>30826248
>Sandalphaggot
>Elemental lord

>>30826206

there's a solution, im sure. this is why SM is kind of sitting back atm. i don't think he'd pull another 'lol you're just digging a deeper hole' again so soon

the revival of leviathan is really our last trump card that we can play on this one guys. all our power players have a role.

hecate is going to do the chronomancy thing

melody has a country to lead, and so does Fang

we're busy doing SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK

i GUESS Abigail with her new Fist could be distracting but because of her waifu status nobody would even consider that

we need someone supa stronk to basically be a big annoying powerhouse, and leviathan is the last guy we actually trust to do that

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>waiting patiently

>>30826248
Oh, I thought you meant Leviathan.

>>30826020
Alright. I've thought about that, SM. Oh yes have I!

If we take Sandalphon along with us, he'll make a great distraction- just what we'll need.
But it's also a signal to the demon lord and the kanian summoners to hide and or protect themselves, or incur the other demon lords- which may penta, which sandy may sigil. We'll be there for it if that's the case.

If he doesn't, he's going to interrupt things to wait for the opportune time, and then change himself to the battlefield where he'll use the sigil, the main battlefield where the chronomancy plan is being put into place.

That's why we'll fly to the edge of the main battlefield ahead of time and plant an anchor there- if he transports out of there, we do so as well!

>>30826206
Isn't it intriguing? We haven't even touched the Earth mana pool in kan-abar yet! Ahahahaha!

>>30826257
But the problem is we neither have him right now nor can we bring him up.

We need a decision now and Leviathan isn't something we'll have till later.

>>30826267
Meant to link >>30826254.

>>30826291
And he isn't a guarantee... Though we can totally confront the Atlantian nobles here about putting Leviathan back together again.

>>30826261

Not that most of these posts aren't very well-thought out and viable possibilities, just waiting for the main agreement to rise from the sea of thought.

>acifyan Hyperion

I'm not sure what that first word means, but captcha KNOWS

So few bullet points for our response:

>Don't bring Sandalphon
>Bring Melody or Raphael/Anahita
>Resurrect Leviathan

WAIT. Ask Vellik if he still has Magnock's staff. We can let Melody use it.

>>30826257
No, Im personally not considering Abigail because I want her and Illa in the main battle holding off that Poison demon lord from killing all our dudes.
The both of them are really their only defense if we're not there. if thy give it enough trouble, that might make it keep the other Lords around as well.

>>30826309
That's strange. That's one of the enunciation methods of an ancient hebrew word related to the verbs "collecting" and "distributing."

>>30826309
>Artifact Hyperion
Let's do it.

>>30826291

what, are we going to start the fight immediately after we convene this meeting? we can get him, I don't think that's an issue

i guess we could say to sandalphon 'why, lets bring Donovan the demon-slayer along. he's battle tested against demon lords.' just for the lols of it.

Then we have a 'plan' to go with, and we can dart over to atlantis to bring leviathan out once we convene

>>30826309
>acifyan Hyperion
>artifact Hyperion

>>30826333
YES!

>>30826346
>what, are we going to start the fight immediately after we convene this meeting? we can get him, I don't think that's an issue
We have a part of the gem, we don't actually know if we have all the parts of the gem needed.

Then there's dealing with the fallout of Atlantis being removed of their infinite water supply, and then discovering that it was the water lord all along.

>>30826333
That may work

>>30826345
>>30826347
Actually... What if we Artifact the sigil?

HONK HONK ORDER COMIN THROUGH

>>30826277
The thing is, we want the Pentarch to happen too don't we?

Because otherwise Sandalphon will never release Flint.

>>30826333
Doesn't that thing kind of cut someone's power in half?

>>30826340
>>30826309
So either we artifact Hyperion or we need to summon him ourselves and split him into pieces like we were so he can go on a journey of self-discovery to become balanced!

>>30826364
It does? Damn.

>>30826346
What I'm saying is we need something to turn down Sandals with NOW and all we have is a plan we can't even talk about that we can't bring up until LATER.

>>30826333
No, I'm pretty sure bringing Sandalphon along is the right move, regardless of where the sigil really is.

Like Melody isn't an option at all.

>>30826363
Well that's the point of being able to be anywhere he is! Neither of the ideas involve stopping the pentarch outright.

>>30826333
Though I like this much more than those!

>>30826370
Even if that happens, we can have Melody or Fang, Raphael, and Anahita all with us.

>>30826347
Well, We still have one Artification left... If we tried to use it on shade, and like, servant him, would that be enough of a power boost to let it keep up with a Demon Lord?

>>30826377
Why do we need to turn Sandalphon down now?

How can he possibly do more damage with us, then he would be at the Sigil?

>>30826390
Shade doesn't have a soul, which you kind of need for Servanting.

>>30826390
if we are going to artifact a robot lets wait for whatever is past heartstone titan.

>>30826402

By telling the Demon Lords that there is an infiltration group.

>>30826411
They're already going to suspect it. Sandalphon is very obviously a distraction.

>>30826390

non-sentient robots have no souls

not even sure if Steward and the other AI's have souls.

>>30826406
>>30826405
I thought it was worth putting out there. Oh well

>>30826411
There's gonna be at least one Demon Lord there already, and what one knows, they all know.

And I'm not sure how that's worse than him possibly fucking up the Chronomancy and the save Flint plan.

>>30826020
I have a GREAT idea guys!

UNPOCKET THE WATER GEM

TURN TOWARDS THE ATLANTIAN NOBLES

SAY OUTLOUD IN OUR SERIOUS VOICE

"Would you like to free Leviathan?"

SO.

As far as I can see, the plan should be:

>Let Sandy come
>get Leviathan
>get him to stomp around in Kan-Abar distracting both Sandy and the Demon Lord.

Sandy gets to think everything is going according to plan, we get to throw a giant 700 year old wrench in it and get him knocked out of the fight until Donny is saved.

How's that?

everyone DOES know that Sandals is going to back stab the fuck out of us of at Kan-Abar right?

It seems like the most popular choices are

>replace Sandalphon with the Black Lady

>replace Sandalphon with Anahita/Raphael

Anything else before I call a vote? Or do you want to discuss further? Did I leave one out?

None of these choices preclude trying to fix Leviathan in the meantime, or even taking some other strategy, but you need to tell Sandalphon something for the moment even if you have other intentions.

>>30826433
This is worth considering. Maybe the best way to fuck up Sandals plan is to just let him do what he wants and plan around him?

>>30826444
This might actually work better than using Leviathan as just a alternative to Sandy.

>>30826450
You left out having Fang or Melody along with Magnock's staff.

>>30826447
Since he needs the pentarch to summon Hyperion then he certainly won't be killing the Demon Lord he's fighting.

Which means he's expecting the Demon Lord to call in his friends to protect the summoners. It's obvious!

>>30826444

I'll support this.

Anyone else on board?

>>30826333

the problem with that is then we have two half-power melody clones running around. we need her strong in one location, not half-strength in two.

>>30826450

yeah i guess the leviathan plan can come after we actually say something. im down for a vote

>>30826444
>>30826455
I like this.

Throwing Leviathan at Sandy should suitably fuck up his day.

>>30826444
freeing Leviathan right now would not be the wisest move, it would totally fuck over the Atlantian's and forever turn them against us if they even suspected we stole their Keystone

>>30826469

The Atlantean's delicate feelings are not high priority right now, anon.

>>30826450
>replace Sandalphon with Anahita/Raphael
Just go with that, for now.

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>>30826462
This Guy Gets It

>>30826469

>damn you shadow, you freed our centuries-old leader from eternal torment. for shame

i don't think the water wizards will have a problem with the return of the water god

>>30826469
That's far from a priority.

>>30826450
Have Melody use staff to move Geb-nado to Kan-Abar

>>30826462
Well, uhhh.... shit.

>implying Leviathan won't immediately attack us when we fix him
Remember that part Hecate said about how the only things strong enough to split the gem like that were Hyperion and Erebus? Erebus totally did that to Leviathan.

Leviathan is a hell of a lot less reasonable than Hecate on top of having spent his 700 years suffering instead of in manapool sleep. Have fun waking him up and telling him "Oh no that was totally the OTHER Erebus that fucked you up. Sorry bout that."

>>30826486
uh the Atlanras was never owned by Leviathan, they just found half of him and built a nation around it.

>>30826495
Even more bad ideas.

>>30826495
As an aside, when we do free Geb, we should probably watch from a distance. Let Steward be the first thing Geb sees.

>>30826469
Maybe we should tell the Water guys we have the other half of the gem.

>>30826502

I'm sure he'll be pissed, but not as pissed as he would be if we kept him in there.

>>30826502
This is what im worried about. I feel if we wake him up, it should be in a controlled environment

>>30826462
Then since the Nemesis will have a jump drive installed in it within two days why don't we just switch the battlefield it's at to wherever (Kan-Abar in this case) Sandalphon is using the Sigil, and then have Hemmelus/Adavan who can be on it initiate the Chronomacy with calling Hecate from there?

>>30826518
>>30826524
So let the Atlanteans have the gem and let them decide. Be sure to warn them about Leviathan's personality.

>>30826518

NO.

Don't let Sandalphon know.

>>30826529
>>30826502

or we could just put him together in kan-abar when we get there

then he's infuriated and stomps around, catching the attention of the nearby demon lord, and then we continue our plan as normal.

>>30826462
If that is the problem than having a distraction team at all is a bad idea.

>>30826533
We'll suggest that to Fang.

We should skip our fancy dinner tonight with Abigail and free Leviathan instead.

Duty calls - Abby will understand.

>>30826444
I agree with this. NOT with what SM said.

I also want someone to keep an eye on Sandies. Someone trustworthy, sane, and able to get away if things go horribly wrong.

>>30826555
We need to go to that dinner party for securing Melody's aid with the airships.

>>30826549

We need the distraction team to even infiltrate in the first place, otherwise it's going to be crawling with demons.

>>30826555
Nah, we can supersonic to Atlantis for the double-date. Do both at once.

>>30826555

That's tomorrow night.

The discussion STILL continues.

I can continue wait.

Or do we want a vote now?

Possible options:

>let Sandy come, prepare a Leviathan

>replace Sandy with Melody

>replace Sandy with Anahita/Raphael

>>30826563
What I'm saying is that if Sandals is a big enough threat to goad all the demons to Kan-Abar than fighting them at all is dumb.

>>30826573
>let Sandy come, prepare a Leviathan

>>30826573
Caught between

>replace Sandy with Anahita/Raphael

and

>let Sandy come, prepare a Leviathan

>>30826573
I assumed Anahita/Raphael had strengths in commanding forces, and that's why Sandalphon would want them at the main battle- because they could actually do more good there than he would, logistically speaking.

>let Sandy come, prepare a Leviathan

>>30826450
Nah, I'm fine with Sandalphon.

>>30826573
I would kind of like to hear how our other allies think about this and what they'd like to bring up.

None of our ideas sound good.

on a side note Leviathan probably will not be happy with us after being locked away in two crystals for 700 years in constant pain.

>>30826573

>replace Sandy with Anahita/Raphael

And bring Leviathan too!

>>30826573
>let Sandy come, prepare a Leviathan
And
>Have someone keep an eye on him.

>>30826573
These all sound HORRIBLE

>>30826573
>let Sandy come, prepare a Leviathan

>>30826573

lets vote on it. i don't think any viable permutation of options could come up.

on the subject of anahita and raphael lets keep in mind that the empire is a largely military based society as we've seen. if sandalphon nixes anahita and raphael tagging along as a distraction, it aint gonna fuckin happen.

if we don't present a good alternative to sandal that he CAN'T weasel out of, then it's likely not going to work.

We need to play to things that sandal has no fucking clue about, i.e. leviathan.