>>31319644
>Millian, a bit embarrassed, looks at Regis questioningly. "Are they going to...?"

They're *always* going to, dear maid.

Claim the delicious shota while you still can.

Rolled 8

>>31319644
>Millian, a bit embarrassed, looks at Regis questioningly. "Are they going to...?"
Run

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>>31319644
>Millian, a bit embarrassed, looks at Regis questioningly. "Are they going to...?"
YOU STAY AND YOU WATCH.

Because we aren't archiving the last thread, I would just like to say

PRAISE BE TO EXALT MAKA, BIQUEEN POPETITS OF TIANNA, LONG MAY SHE REIGN

>>31319738
stay

>>31319731
oh no
They're both already ours

Regis shakes his head. "It's going to end there." He replies, heading out of the room. "I've seen it happen enough times."

>Let them leave you alone
>Ask them to stay

>>31319747
>They can stay if they want, we don't really mind.

>Let them leave you alone

Rolled 3

>>31319747
>Ask them to stay

>>31319747
>Let them leave you alone

>>31319747
>Ask them to stay
YOU STAY AND YOU WATCH.

>>31319747
>Ask them to stay
They have to get used to it eventually for when it's their turn

>>31319760
>>31319757
tl;dr do as you like, kids

>>31319747
Eh, doesn't matter.
They don't need to stay, nor do they need to leave.
But just for the sake of it:
Ask them to stay.

We want witnesses for our proposal, although they can leave later if they want.

>>31319747
>Regis is completely bored by our sexual antics already

Prime butler material right there.

>>31319747
>Ask them to stay
We're at least fucking the meido, and getting the /ss/ in on it too is a good bonus

>>31319747
>No option to ask them to join
Fine
>Ask them to stay

>>31319747
They can stay for now, but they should probably go once we start sexing Amata

>>31319747
>Let them leave you alone

>>31319794
We've also beefed him up to Body 2 already, I think. Kid's going to do great.

>>31319794
>>31319817
"How many barrels of lube will you be requiring this evening, m'lady?"

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>Who are we?
Maka, an exiled noble recently Exalted as a Zenith-caste Solar. She's in the western city of Tianna as a guest of queen Amata (DB), an old friend. Abyssals are targeting the city for conquest, Lintha pirates have infiltrated it with spies and agents, and half the island is controlled by paranoid Lunars. Fun times.

>Solar? Zenith? I don't know Exalted...
This quest is as newbie-friendly as possible, and I want it to work as a newbie's intro to Exalted. If you have ANY question, ask in thread. For the setting, google "1d4chan exalted".

>Archive?
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=zenith

>System?
Dicepool-like system. When performing an action, everyone rolls 1d10 when posting. the first X rolls are considered, where X is equal to attribute + ability. Yes, this means that the more people are posting, the stronger Maka is, up to a limit of her attribute + ability.

>XP?
Attributes cost [current score x5] xp. Abilities cost [current score x3] xp, except Zenith costing [(current score x3) -1]. Charms cost 10 xp, except for Zenith-based charms (related to charisma and physical/mental fortitude) which cost 8 xp. At the end of every "session" (thread) you will be presented with a list of possible acquisitions.

>Twitter?
@exaltedfag


Notes:
The previous thread was filled with discussion and votes on how to handle this. It was chaotic, more than a bit stupid, and the vote through strawpoll was obviously manipulated, but I did learn something about it. I don't know if that thread will survive in the archives, or if it should. In case it doesn't: nothing happened in it in-game, it was all out-of-game discussions, so if you're reading this from archives don't worry, you didn't miss anything important.

Also, sorry for not putting a title on the thread, forgot. This is Session 26.

>>31319832
"Fetch Silk for me would you Regis?"

>>31319747
>Ask them to stay
and why do I feel like YOU STAY AND YOU WATCH is how we're going to interrogate important PoWs?

>>31319833
Can we see what our options for spending experience are so we can decide what we want to buy? Feel free to post it in the now-defunct discussion thread instead to keep from cluttering up this one.

>>31319849
They are useds as bedding until we get what we want.

>>31319855
end of thread bro

>>31319849
With the charm some people are talking about, "YOU STAY AND YOU JOIN" is likely to actually get results.

>>31319870
EF said we'd do it at the start of this one because our thread was on the last page when the session ended last time

>>31319878
I really don't want Husband-Seducing Demon Dance for exactly that reason. I just know we're going to mind-control some people into doing shit for the sake of convenience or humor. And down that path lies the First Age.

>>31319870
On Friday, he said we would vote on experience at the start of the next (this) thread.

>>31319878
Yeah, we should not get that, or HSDD. Too UMI for my tastes

>>31319892

But the first age is fun!

For Solars.

And everyone mind-raped into agreeing with Solars.

"You can stay." You smile, patting the free space on the bed.

Nervously, the maid and the butler walk up to it and sit down. Amata seems endlessly entertained by their reactions.

"...So, what was your idea?" She asks you.

"I want to rule together with you." You say, turning to her. "We've known each other for a long time. I know you. I trust you. And... I'm a bit ashamed to admit that I also need you."

"Nothing to be ashamed of." She nods, caressing the silky texture of your tabard with gentle tugs. The fabric it's made of is so smooth and soft to the touch it's almost addictive. "Tianna has an already-established bureaucracy, government, and, in general, a fairly solid structure. It's better to expand something that's already there, rather than building from zero."

"I thought you had no interest in territorial expansion." You reply.

"Not for myself." She explains. "But if we're together? And I have my own personal sexy, charismatic powerhouse with her own pirate army, and her husband who eats Fae kingdoms for breakfast? Well, no reason not to get a bit ambitious, is there?"

"Speaking of which." You grasp Amata's hand and hold it in yours, and with the other hold Tia's. "...I and Tia would like to get married just after the festival for Dancing Smoke. Either here in Tianna, or..."

"Or in your new Manse when it will be ready, right?" She guesses. "Maybe it would be better to do it there? It would be more... your own thing. If you can wait."

"I waited a lot." Tia mumbles. "I can wait a bit more. I'll let Maka decide. there to hold it."

"On the other hand, doing it here could make a positive impression on the people of Tianna." She notes. "If we handle it well. I'd be the one marrying you of course."

"About that." Tia interjects, but you prod her in the side. You'll talk about that later.

>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.
>I'd like to marry her here in Tianna, in a grand ceremony.
>Other?

>>31320173
>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.

>>31320173
>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.

>>31320173
>I'd like to marry her here in Tianna, in a grand ceremony.

>>31320173
>>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.

>>31320173
>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.
we can have a much crazier ceremony there, if only because the gods and Exalts can do a lot more without random people running in fear

>>31320173
>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.
We already discussed this and the ceremony is mostly to satisfy us since we decided we're already married

>>31320173
>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.

Their marriage is something for them, not for Tianna.
The other marriage on the other hand can be a grand ceremony and all that.

Rolled 5

>>31320173
>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.
It won't be as grand a ceremony as in Tianna, but we can still invite the gods/lunars and other allies

The big ceremony can be the marriage with Amata

>>31320173
>Other?
I don't care so much about where we do it, I care about how. We need to get an astrologer to find out when the next solar eclipse will be, or at least a time when the sun and moon are both visible in the sky. Then, we need to be priestess-bride sanctifying the marriage in the name and light of both sun and moon, praying to our respective deities for their blessings.

Let's go full-Zenith on this.

>>31320173
>I'd like to marry her here in Tianna, in a grand ceremony.

Since the ceremony is just for show, it should be a SHOW

>>31320223
This is a good idea. I like it.
+1

>>31320223
We really have to do something big like this, we're a Zenith marrying our Lunar mate, it's going to be amazing

>>31320173
>>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.
I'm sure a nice private wedding filled with pirates, Lunars, Dragonblooded, and gods will put any 'grand ceremony' we would be allowed to have in Tianna to shame

>>31320223
Fucking this
whichever wins, put this in with it.

Rolled 8

>>31320173
>I think I'll marry Tia in our own new home, when it'll be ready.

>>31320223
that really depends on how long we'd have to wait. I'd be fine with a month or so, but any longer than that and I'd rather just do it normally

>>31320223
I could not support this sentiment more.

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>>31320223
YES
pic related, but with less lifeless craters

Rolled 8

>>31320223
I'm on board with this.

>>31320302
>implying we didn't make those craters fucking the shit out of Tia

"...I'll wait for our manse to be ready." You say. "Which... brigs me to my next marriage."

Amata slowly drags herself over you, resting her chin on your stomach. "...Is that an offer?"

You nod. "It is."

Millian almost falls from the bed. "You can't mean-..."

"I do." You reply.

Amata smiles and drags herself a bit closer to your face. "You're planning for yourself a serious harem of beautiful and powerful women, Maka."

"Yes!" goes Tia. "I'm so proud of her!"

You didn't feel a shred of shame walking around with no clothes in Freeport, but this is making you shy and embarrassed in a very weird way. It's so strange to discuss this with Amata and Tia.

"There are conditions, though." Tia gets all professional, resting her arms on your chest. "I'm first. I'm at the top of the list. Are you okay with that?"

"As long as you won't keep Maka all for yourself."

You stand upright, tossing both of them off you. "...I'm not a table, you two!"

Amata giggles. "...I'm alright with being your second. I know I can't possibly compete with the bond Tia has with you. That's something that transcends this life." She kisses your navel. "All I know, however, is this Maka here. And if I'm being allowed to spend the rest of my life with her, then I'm a happy woman."

"...Weren't you already married? I was worried that..." You mumble.

"...It's a long story. I... I'd really prefer to talk about it another time."

>Insist
>Move on

>>31320173
Not like it has a chance of winning but
>I'd like to marry her here in Tianna, in a grand ceremony.
Because having a big ceremony is important, and the bigger the better

Rolled 9

>>31320223
I'm down with this.

>I'd like to marry her here in Tianna, in a grand ceremony.
Also this, if we can combine the two without causing a fuss. Too many people still don't like us.

Rolled 7

>>31320425
>Insist
It really is super-important.

>>31320425
>>Move on
She can say when she's ready. We have all the time in the world, as Exalted.

>>31320425
>Move on

>>31320425
>Alright, but I DO want want to hear it eventually
We can respect her wishes, but we have a right to know if we're marring her ourselves

Rolled 3

>>31320425
>Move on
If it won't be causing any problems we can talk about it later

Rolled 8

>>31320425
>Move on, but let her know we'll always be willing to listen

>>31320425
>>Move on
But wee will need to go over it at some point.

>>31320468
Tia, stop. Now is not the time for watersports play.

>>31320425
>Move on

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>>31320425
>Amata giggles. "...I'm alright with being your second. I know I can't possibly compete with the bond Tia has with you. That's something that transcends this life." She kisses your navel. "All I know, however, is this Maka here. And if I'm being allowed to spend the rest of my life with her, then I'm a happy woman."
I'm so happy we chose to marry her

Rolled 4

>>31320425
>Move on

>>31320490
Best MILF indeed

>>31320425
>Move on

Rolled 4

>>31320425
>Move on
Am I sensing arranged marriage? A somewhat unhappy one? Maybe the reason she was willing to get Samiel out of his?

Rolled 7

>>31320425
gently kiss her, on whatever the closest part of her to us is now that we threw her

"It's alright. We'll have to talk about it eventually, but I'll wait until you're ready"

>>31320425
>Move on
I'm a bit worried about it being relevant what with the whole remarriage and such, but I trust Amata to be smart enough to not keep something important away from us just because it's an uncomfortable subject.

Rolled 2

We're voting on what to spend our XP on in the discussion thread, if anyone isn't in there:
>>31320487

Rolled 7

>>31320509
>arranged marriage
Could be, it might also be how the Realm heard about Samiel in the first place and I think EF mentioned that Amata has a pretty strong lineage especially for someone not from the Realm

>>31320625
So we get to save a classy, wonderful lady from a lonely, loveless marriage with lesbian orgies and massive brown tits.

It's the fuckin' love story of the year.

Sooo... time for a royal threesome?

"...Alright. When you feel like taking about it..."

"Don't be rude to the queen!" Millian defends her, even against you.

"I'm sorry, I'm sorry." You raise your hands.

"By the way, another thing I wanted to ask you." She stabs an index finger in your bellybutton, making you jolt in surprise. Her finger is incredibly cold, damn Air aspect. "You did it with my son, too, didn't you?"

Tia pouts. "She didn't invite me."

"I was worried you'd break him!" You complain, clutching your chilled stomach.

"So you did." Amata pushes you down. "...How was he?"

"Eh. It wasn't like that. It was more... he did us?" You think about it. "We wanted him to take charge."

"Oh, good." She nods. "I think he needed to-" She stops. "Wait, you and who?"

"...Dancing Smoke?"

"Ugh."

"She seems to have taken a liking to Samiel." Tia nods. Amata clearly isn't thrilled.

Millian and Regis are just looking at you three talking in a tangle on the bed. Both red as beets, but also rooted to the spot.

Amata, on the other hand, doesn't look too thrilled about the idea of Dancing Smoke having an interest in her son.

>Ask her why.
>Speak in favor of the relationship.
>Speak against the relationship.
>Keep a neutral stance.
>Other?

>>31320845
five in it so far. And we should grab Sam and Irene to make a full seven

>>31320851
>Ask her why.

>>31320851
>Ask her why.
>Speak in favor of the relationship.

>>31320851
>>Keep a neutral stance.
>>Ask her why.

It could go either way really.

Rolled 9

>>31320851
>Ask her why.
She's been kinda pushy about it, what does she want?
Also we should mention her baby with Yaraon

Rolled 8

>>31320851
>Ask her why.
I hope it's because Dancing Sun is a grabby bitch who wants people murdered for her wallet and ego.

>>31320872
I forgot to put my dice back on

Rolled 3

>>31320891
and then i put it in the wrong field. Brilliant I am

>>31320851
>Keep a neutral stance.
>Ask her why.

Honestly, DS just seemed lonely. The fact that she met a nice young boy who could go swimming with her in her magma was like a big 'ol christmas present for her.

>>31320851
>>Ask her why.
I think we shouldn't take stance before we hear her reason.

Rolled 3

>>31320851
>Speak in favor of the relationship.

Rolled 7

>All these people forgetting to roll
seriously people

Rolled 1

>>31320851
Forgot my dice

Rolled 1

>>31320851
>Ask her why.
>Keep a neutral stance.

Rolled 5

>>31320851
>>Ask her why.
>>Speak in favor of the relationship.

Rolled 6

>>31320851
>Ask her why.
>Speak in favor of the relationship.

Rolled 3

>>31320851

Maybe she just doesn't want a volcano god as a daughter-in-law?

Rolled 6

>>31320851
>Ask her why.
>Speak in favor of the relationship

>Not building as many alliances as possible through casual sex.
Amata, do you even ExaltedQuest?


>>31320912
If he's the present, does that make her the cake?

"...Why do you dislike Dancing Smoke so much?"

"I don't trust gods." She sighs. "In general. They want worship, but most of them don't seem to be interested in earning it. Most of them are just a step above being bullies. Some don't even make that step."

"...She is kind of pushy..."

"Pushy? She wanted human sacrifice." Amata points out. Millian and Regis shiver. "She did?" "And you left me with her?!"

"...She accepted the idea that she's not going to get it."

"In exchange for worship." Amata rolls around, staring at the roof while idly playing with your hair. "It always comes back to that."

"...Yes, but there's not just that."

"Oh?"

"...I think she's very lonely." You muse. "And, well. Samiel had a great first time and worked out some of his frustrations, and she has someone to soothe her loneliness. They both gained something from it."

"...I don't like it." She's still determined. "But Samiel is an adult... in every sense of the word now I guess. He's free to live his life how he wants to. I just hope he doesn't make any mistakes. Will you keep an eye out for him?"

"Of course. He'll be my son too, soon, right?"

She nods. "...Did he dominate her, at least."

"Completely." You grin. "I made sure of it."

"I should get him to give us a detailed, minute-by-minute account of the event." She ponders. You cringe instinctively. "Maybe in front of a crowd."

"You're evil."

"Look who's talking, Anathema."

>Talk about religion in Tianna
>Talk about the Manse
>Talk about the city
>Talk about Mikahil and his architect friend
>Talk about Samiel
>Talk about Irene
>Talk about Regis and Millian
>Enough talking for now

(short AFK)

>>31321067
>>Talk about Samiel
>>Talk about Irene
>>Talk about Regis and Millian
namely bringing them all officially into the harem

>>31321067
>Talk about religion in Tianna

>Talk about the city

Let's have the immaculate order situation dealt with BEFORE Smoke's festival.

Hate to have something ruin that public event.

Rolled 8

>>31321067
>Talk about the Manse
what options are we going to have

>>31321093
Regis is too young.

Rolled 2

>>31321067
>Talk about religion in Tianna
>Talk about the city
How are they going to respond to us and what can we do to prepare before hand

Rolled 3

>>31321067
>Talk about religion in Tianna

Rolled 3

>>31321067
>Talk about religion in Tianna

Since she just playfully called us Anathema, it gives us a nice way to shift the conversation to religion and how we can work on shifting people away from the Immaculate view as all Solars as monsters.
I mean, she knows two Solars and three Lunars now. She should be able to tell that we're not babyeating monsters. The question is just how to convince everyone else.

Rolled 4

>>31321067
>Talk about religion in Tianna
Amata seems pretty iffy on religion. We need to know she's okay with us starting a cult before we do.

Rolled 9

>>31321093
>namely bringing them all officially into the harem
I actually want them to be cute together, we're obviously going to sex them eventually, but I kind of want them to be together first

Rolled 9

>>31321067
>>Talk about religion in Tianna
We POPETITS?

Also the rest of the stuff should be dealt with in this order
>Talk about the city
>Talk about the Manse
>Talk about Mikahil and his architect friend
>Talk about Irene
>Talk about Regis and Millian
>Talk about Samiel
Samiel gets to be last because we just talked about him, other stuff is in order of importance.

Rolled 9

>>31321116
>We need to know she's okay with us starting a cult before we do.
We also need to talk about this
Oh have we also talked about our new pet Raksha?

Rolled 9

>>31321140
>Oh have we also talked about our new pet Raksha?
We have not.

Rolled 1

>>31321116
I'm against starting a cult for now.
Let's just settle into our new role as queen consort before we start preaching of Glorious Solar Supremacy.
(Actually, I think that's the name of a charm too. Then again tack "glorious", "solar" and/or "supremacy" to anything and you have an Exalted charm, just like that.)

Rolled 5

>>31321067
>"Look who's talking, Anathema."
Every scene with her makes me love Amata more.

>Talk about religion in Tianna
Especially with three Lunars coming to the defense of Tianna against Abyssals, the subject of Anathema is going to be coming up.

And if we're doing priorities lists:
>Talk about Mikahil and his architect friend
>Talk about Irene

Really, though, I wouldn't mind taking each of these in turn.

Rolled 7

>>31321149
>Let's just settle into our new role as queen consort before we start preaching of Glorious Solar Supremacy.
We can have a cult without doing that. A cult is of huge benefit to us, our skillset and caste make us a natural priestess, and it can be something as simple as people offering the occasional prayer that their (new) queen keep doing a great job, or shape up their act. Religion in Exalted is much more akin to making requests and occasional offerings towards an essence-using figure, rather than actual faith in the real-world sense.

We DEFINITELY want a cult.

>>31320425
>Marrying Amata
Why are we doing this, exactly? That would make Samiel and Irene our children.

We have sex with those two.

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Rolled 3

>>31321213
>Why are we doing this, exactly? That would make Samiel and Irene our children.
>We have sex with those two.

Rolled 8

>>31321213
Because the largest minority of people wanted this, apparently.

Rolled 7

>>31321213
No reason we still can't.

EXALTED

Rolled 7

>>31321221
The Largest Minority is generally called the Majority, anon.

Rolled 9

>>31321236
No, it's definitely not. The majority is >50%. The largest minority is when there's no majority, just one minority larger than the other minorities.

>>31321220
Aaaand it will be a very good piece of propaganda for the Immaculates to use when it comes time to bring in the Wyld Hunt or the legions and knock us over.

Decadent uppity god-queen who has sex with her own children?

Rolled 8

>>31321245
Which is a majority for most governmental and election purposes that don't use backwards first-past-the-post systems.

>>31321248
step-children. there is a difference.

Rolled 4

>>31321248
>Decadent uppity god-queen who has sex with her own children?
This sums up half of everybody with a bit of status in creation ever.

Rolled 6

>>31321263
No, it's called a plurality.

Rolled 9

>>31321248
I thought this is kinda common among the Dragonblood?
I'm probably wrong, I'm new to exalted though

>>31321275
what better way to keep the bloodline strong than to have grandkids with your kids?

Rolled 4

>>31321287
You're very wrong. They try to keep incests to cousins or more distant. Inbreeding is still a serious problem and carries HUGE stigmas.

Rolled 2

>>31321287
We're an ANATHEMA! doing it so it's wrong.
I still so go for it

Rolled 6

>>31321248
>children
Step kids
and it's only a problem if we keep fucking them
We probably will though

>>31321301
We're not actually related, though, which sort of dodges that bullet.

Now, if we start tanglin' with our grandkids, then it gets kinda First Age.

Rolled 1

>>31321316
Sort of, but I doubt the immaculate propaganda will care. We're fucking our kids, plain and simple, as far as they and the common folk they're preaching to are concerned.

>>31321264
>>31321312
They're not going to point out the difference if they're using it as propaganda.

Rolled 2

>>31321325
>>31321327
It's a good thing we plan on dealing with them soon

Rolled 3

>>31321126
This sounds like a good order for things, but make it
>Talk about Regis and Millian
Then
>Talk about Irene

Rolled 5

>>31321340
>It's a good thing we plan on dealing with them soon
For now. It's only a matter of time before more immaculates show up and the Realm starts trying to fuck us up. We need to be aware that all of our choices now are going to have an impact on how much material they have to work with when that happens.

>>31321340
>>31321362
Ideally we were going to convince the Immaculate Order that we're not a big priority as far as Solars-who-need-to-be-put-down go. The Wyld Hunt can only spare so many people with the Empress gone and the Great Houses fighting for succession, and there are 150 Solars out there now where there used to be 15 or so for the last couple thousand years.

This, however, is a sign of decadent-god-king behaviour and is the exact sort of thing they look for.

Rolled 1

>>31321461
> Solar carving out a kingdom in the West
> seducing dragon-blooded monarchs
> fucking their stepchildren
> not a high priority
The Solars who aren't a high priority are the ones like Mikahil, intentionally trying not to upset anything ands keep their cover. We're the opposite of that.

>>31321461
we are the Solars they try to kill. The ones who are drawn to lead, the ones who carve out empires and cause people to follow them, to love them. We are the Anathema that, if we fall to the Great Curse, could lead to the return of the First Age's level of oppression

Rolled 4

>>31321461

Well, it's not like we could ignore them forever. I'd have liked to avoid their attention until we dealt with the abyssals, but sometimes things happen and you marry the queen of an island nation and have sex with your step children

>>31321526
>First Age
>oppression
Heh, no. For one, everything was far better in that time, even with the occasional Twilight experiments. For another, the Immaculates you refer to believe that Dragon Blooded are the highest - and only - Exalts. They don't really know what the Celestials are, just that they are the opposite of what the faith teaches: individuals who gain great power because they refused their place in life.

Rolled 6

>>31321664
Bro, regardless of your view on the First Age, this is clearly the exact shit the immaculate order hates. And we ain't exactly Bull of the North powerful yet.

Rolled 8

The Wyld hunt is used to killing single Solars and Lunars that have no idea what they're doing, no equipment and maybe 2 or 3 charms. We have 4 Celestial Exalted and a bunch of DBs. I don't think they can spare the resources needed to take us out.

Rolled 4

>>31321729
They probably could if the could get their shit together long enough to organize a proper hunt.

So basically we're good.

>>31321729
they are sure as hell going to try
which is a good thing. Even if it's not as good as Orihalcum for us, the Wyld Hunt will bring us Jade christmas

Rolled 7

>>31321729
The only time they've needed to in recent memory was the battle with the Bull of the North, which they lost strictly due to intentionally-poor leadership at the top. We don't have half the resources the Bull has, and aren't likely to anytime soon. This time around, they would probably burn Tianna as a whole off the map entirely using airships with essence weapons.

If and when they get word of us, of course, which will probably be in the next few weeks, considering how high-profile we are.

Rolled 9

>>31321763
>they are sure as hell going to try
are they? The men and resources they'd risk on us could take out half a dozen starting Exalt and prevent them from becoming a danger.

Rolled 10

>>31321763
>just having five dudes with jade try to kill us
>not having legions of mortals, airships, and essence artillery with the DBs hanging out in the back in case we beat their mooks
You have intentionally-shitty wyld hunts, don't you?

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"...Say, Amata? The Immaculates worry me." You confide to her.

"There are some here in the city, yeah. Less in the countryside. Their religion is naturally supportive of my right to rule, so I've left them alone up to now." She admits. "Though the reason they're here is pretty obviously to provide a permanent connection to the Realm."

"They're in their payroll?"

"The leaders." she points out. "Most of the people of Tianna don't want the Realm to move in, at all. They've seen what happens when they do, what with Wavecrest being one of their client states."

"Wavecrest is really poor, though. They don't have a lot of industry or resources."

"Well, Tianna isn't very different. All the west is quite resource-poor. But the Realm still forces its own governors and taxes and rules. People don't like that."

"Like you don't have your own taxes." You prod her side, payback for before.

"Well, I do, but they're spent locally. Not shipped overseas to sponsor armies that will never protect me, or extravagant orgies I won't take part in."

"Better for you to spend your citizens' money on orgies you can take part of, right?" Tia asks. You wonder how seriously.

"My orgies are fairly cheap. This one, for example, is top of the line and costing me just food and board for you two."

"...This is an orgy?" Millian seems unconvinced.

"Give us time." Tia replies.

"...See, my biggest worry is that I think my duty to the Unconquered Sun is to spread His word. And..."

"...And you think it would upset things in my city." She guesses. "...No sense hiding it: it would. Even if most people here aren't Immaculates... by now, everyone knows we're close. If you started preaching, AND we married, it'd be..."

"...close to a state religion."

"Precisely." She playfully underlines her reply with a slap to your your backside, producing a sharp sound.

"Ow."

(cont.)

Rolled 6

>>31321786
Of course they would. We're already a danger, and expending men and resources on threats like us is the whole reason they have those men and resources in the first place. They would just dial it up even higher.

Remember, they can't FIND most starting exalts. They need to do stupid, overt shit that gets word of them spread. I wouldn't be surprised if we're the only known anathema with a confirmed location in the entire Threshold, at the moment, aside from the Bull.

Rolled 7

>>31321781
>battle with the Bull of the North
wasn't that an entire house legion? The guys that are completely focused on the coming civil war?
I don't think we have to worry about them

>>31321820
Two Tepet Legions. They were taken down by a Solar Exalt, an entire army of Icewalkers, and the entire nation of Halta. There may have been more stuff on the Bull's side, I can't quite remember.

Rolled 4

>>31321820
Yeah, that was a bit bigger than a Wyld Hunt, and is the reason why the Realm is so averse to committing resources to stop up and coming Solars.

Rolled 1

>>31321820
>completely focused on the coming civil war
That's an extreme mischaracterization of the situation, and the Tepet legions were going to steamroll him before orders from the top forced them into intentionally-suicidal formations to punish their legions.

We don't have the same power as the Bull, nor the same deus ex machina bullshit to save us from getting roflstomped.

>>31321872

>A Solar Exalt

He has an entire CIRCLE of Solars. He's got a fucking impressive force.

>>31321798
Amata's got a good head on her pretty shoulders.

Rolled 5

>>31321872
And entire circle of Solars, actually, including someone with Solar Circle Sorcery and warstriders. And they were STILL going to lose until someone gave orders that intentionally ruined the Tepet legions.

>>31321887
I couldn't remember if the Bull had his Circle with him. If he does, then it's entirely reasonable for him to take down two Legions, considering he had his own crack army of Icewalkers and an entire other empire backing up that Circle.

Rolled 9

The Realm isn't going to send a Legion to take us down

Rolled 7

>>31321922
Yup. The bull had a full circle, warstriders, Solar Circle Sorcery, a massive army of Tiger-Warrior barbarians, and so forth.

And he was STILL going to lose until the Tepet Legions got sabotaged by orders from the top.

>>31321798
>We can handle being crushed by buildings and fistfighting Behemoths thanks to our iron skin
>Smack on the ass still causes pain
Does Amata have some sort of anime martial art where her slaps bypass Soak?

Rolled 2

>>31321943
They don't need to. We're not that big of a badass yet. All it would take is one airship with downward-pointed cannons.

Rolled 8

>>31321949
we have to activate that charm

>>31321949
think it was more of a deadpan than actual pain

>>31321922

Well, as was said...he was going to get his ass handed to him until Realm Politics happened and buttfucked the Legions.

>>31321949

She's a (Likely) high essence DB. I wouldn't be surprised if she knows at least one Celestial-Tier martial art.

Rolled 9

>>31321961
Tia can fly, she takes us with her, we board the ship and get a cool ride.

"See, even if we keep the freedom of religion, having you preach the Sun openly in town, while being so close to me, would be seen... as unfair competition at best. So, yes, even with the best of intentions, it would upset the entire city. And don't think that just getting rid of the Immaculate ringleaders would fix things."

"I know." You nod. "I'd have to ease people bit by bit."

"Bo-ring." Tia has been stroking the back of your head for a while now, evidently believing you to be a cat or something. Or she might just be trying to find something to do to fight boredom: she doesn't seem interested in your discussion, and is apparently just biding her time.

"...The part that worries me the most, though, is that there's definitely some people who'd follow your preaching."

"...And then it would be a religious civil war between them and the Immaculates." That much is obvious.

"We'd win it." Tia points out.

"In a civil war, everyone loses." Amata corrects her.

You roll around, accidentally closer to Regis. Poor boy gets startled, probably intimidated by the very confident skinship the three of you are displaying, worried that you'll drag him under the blankets and rape him or something. With a gentle smile, though, you make him feel more at ease.

"Even if I started my own town around my manse, and started preaching there..."

"...the situation would just change to hostility towards the new settlement and anyone who migrates there." She concludes. "The way I see it... You can either win their trust over a long period of time, or start a very focused, delicate and risky campaign aimed at weakening and discrediting them while promoting yourself, or act by force and remove them, either violently or diplomatically."

"...You'd support me even in such a drastic course of action?"

"I'm marrying you, after all." She points out.

>Win them slowly.
>Focused campaign of persuasion.
>Chase them out of Tianna.

Rolled 3

>>31322000
Probably not. Seriously, we're just plain not that powerful yet. A medium-sized platoon with a half-dozen DBs, a fully-buffed complement of mortals, and high-end magitech will just plain end us. We barely survived kicking the shit out of a bunch of fae, and fae are - generally speaking - sub-DB in power.

>>31322027
>Win them slowly.

Rolled 4

>>31322027
>>>Win them slowly.
>>Focused campaign of persuasion.
A combination of those two. A long-term campaign of focused persuasion.

Rolled 6

>>31322027
>Win them slowly.
slow and steady

>>31322027
>Win them slowly.
We need to handle this carefully.

Rolled 4

>>31322027
>Win them slowly.
Let's take our time here, we're not in any super big hurry

>>31322027
>Win them slowly.

We have time. What we don't want to do is to go above the threshold where the Realm gets off it's collective ass and Wyld Hunts us and annexes Tianna because they obviously can't rule themselves if they let an Anathema marry their queen.

Rolled 5

>>31322027
>Focused campaign of persuasion.

Rolled 1

>>31322036
have you looked at Tia's stats? She's a murder machine

Rolled 5

>>31322060
Yeah, I like this. No reason to rush it, but also no reason not to exert some effort.

>>31322027
>Focused campaign of persuasion.

I am voting for Husband Seducing Demon Dance.

>>31322027
>"...You'd support me even in such a drastic course of action?"

>"I'm marrying you, after all." She points out.

MAKA HAS THE BEST WIVES/HUSBANDS EVER


>Win them slowly.

>>31322036
I am to late to prevent stupidity. Allas i am sadly going to post my too late reaons spewed without editing directly from my brain and in a haste in this thread too.

Although with heavy heart i have to say i do not like the way we handled this. I thought we had it figgured out on how we are going to proceed and were not going to change from last week from Federation to now on Monarchy and Marriage alliances.


So:

And damn i do not agree with what this thing has brought us too.

Haven't we had this basic divergence already in previous threads?

Vassals to Amata will not work for us as a Solar since we will eventually outshine her by far and its going to be painful once there is conflict between us.

Marriage limits our expansion enormously and will descend into dynastic policy.


The only way for us to expand fast and be able to bring Three Rivers and eventually others like the Island of that Captain i forgot his name is a Federation.

Full on Haslanti League Style.

We don't care if you are a monarchy, a Nexus style bullshit trader town of the Guild or effing Look Shy Mk2. Or just a Mortal council hall with hired DB and God blooded specialists.

All of these can be federated. But if we go with marriaghe others will want the same since its the only way to get in without being a junior memeber forever.
In a federation they can get over being a junior member faster than in a monarchy and it can happen to more than one.

Plus with a marriage at its core we make a main core thing kind of like the Habsburg/ Austro-Hungary empire.

Fuck that shit. I say we go with a Mix of EU style join up with common law and administration standards shared coupled with a British empire dominions if we beat or have to protect someone that can eventually graduate to junior federated memebers.

Rolled 10

>>31322094
>She's a murder machine
COMPARED TO US. She's a murder machine compared to us. Even she didn't walk out of that unscathed. And the Wyld Hunt doesn't play fair. They poison, use meatshields, grind down with attrition, and THEN move in for the kill. And that's when they're not also using artillery, air supremacy, and so forth.

We will not just be able to breeze past the Wyld Hunt. I'm not saying they're guaranteed to win - not by a long shot. But don't underestimate them. They're not idiots, and they are powerful, and they're very dedicated.

>>31322112
cont


The problem is that we really need Eclipse help to forge up the Bureaucracy of this to work right. We really need serious bureaucracy. But for our purposes this is the net superior choice as it is the one that allows us to get Gem the easiest way, and to forge a empire in the west that can have a chance to resist the Realm -and we are going to get noticed once we get Gem back


The only reason they wont move on Gem its because its fucking far away, but the Western Archipelagos they can reach with a navy so they will strike the Island because they wont let a solar have gem and the islands.


Trying to merge Federation and Marriage Alliance and Monarchy is working at cross purposes. One goes for stability the other one is for growth. You can not do the same things and if you do merge them you get the disadvantages of both while only common advantages.

Seriously Chose one or the other. Going for both is counterproductive.

And i think we have agreed long ago that we wont be vassals to anyone and wont accept any sovereigns over us. And wont force Amata in the same position.

Thus my vote goes to pure federation. We wait for our common acquaintance the scrawny eclipse and ask for him how we could apply our idea.

Also considering how big of a deal we made marriage out to be to Tia do we really want to cheapen the whole thing to a bureaucratic procedure , especially considering we are already friends and lovers with Amata?

>And now back to reading this thread again. This is my reaction to skimming through the first thread of the day, so yeah digest it with a grain of salt.

>>31322112
Please don't.
You missed it.
We moved to a second thread to get away from the argument. Don't bring it here.

>>31322027
>>Win them slowly.
Focused campaign will need, well, our focus. And i want to focus other things.

>>31322112
Your opinion is noted.

Rolled 8

>>31322036
To be fair that was one long ass extended campaign, most of the fights we went into we weren't at full strength, I think we were only not injured right at the beginning, other than that we were just waiting for our essence to refill and heading out

Rolled 7

>>31322027
>Focused campaign of persuasion.

>>31322112
>>31322132
Why are you shitting up the new thread with this, stop, it's over, you lost, deal or leave.

Rolled 9

>>31322112
>>31322132
Okay
Super late by the way

>>31321898
And, assuming that picture is accurate, almost as stacked as we are.

>>31322132
nah. what we need is a Sidereal ally

Rolled 6

>>31322144
>most of the fights we went into we weren't at full strength
That's the entire point of Wyld Hunt operating procedure. They try to whittle you down one skirmish at a time until you're out of Essence and already a little injured. They're willing to extend tons of resources and entire legions of mortals to get you to that point.

And then they buff up and alpha strike you into oblivion with the most powerful weapons they can find.

The Wyld Hunt doesn't - and never will - fight fair.

>>31322027
>Win them slowly.
Either other option will likely result in retaliation, and we have bigger fish to fry. Abyssal fish.

>>31322112
>>31322132
I feel sad for you since you wrote so much but nobody even wants to care right now.

>>31322173
...yeah, good luck with that.

Rolled 1

>>31322108
The absolute best

Rolled 10

>>31322186
hey, the Gold Faction is a thing

>>31322186
>What is the Gold Faction

Rolled 2

>>31322164
That's a plus, Tia's great and all, but a bit lacking up top.

>>31322173
Someone once threw out the idea that Millian was a Sidereal, I forget if they had reasons or if they were pulling shit from their ass though, probably the later

>>31322173
no, we ned to go Hard Mode
seduce Chejop

>>31322215
Pro-Solar sidereals, basically.

>>31322176
Are the Immaculate Monks dragonblooded or mortals?

Regardless, this is such a good spot for HSDD that more people should seriously consider the option.

Rolled 10

>>31322222
>Someone once threw out the idea that Millian was a Sidereal, I forget if they had reasons or if they were pulling shit from their ass though, probably the later
We had a reason at the time. Millian was everywhere, we were getting secret letters from M, and Amata had told us about a secret spy ally. It turned out M was Mikahil. So, no, she's probably not Sidereal.

>>31322231
>Interacting with the Ketchup

>you'regonnahaveabadtime.tiff

Rolled 1

>>31322235
Both, along with bronze faction Sidereals sometimes

Rolled 2

>>31322244
We thought Mikahil might have been one early on too when he first showed up

Rolled 2

>>31322235
>Regardless, this is such a good spot for HSDD that more people should seriously consider the option.
>Mind control the rival religion into forsaking their holy dogma in favor of us.
FUCK. THAT. That would just be proving them right.

>>31322154
This is not shit. Planing and development is my main enjoyment out of quests.

And such a project was my main attraction to this thing. For me this is the fucking gold and we just wasted it to get married again, with a member of our harem basically. Because, Fuck it!

I really dislike inconsistency and wild swing in quests.
>>31322159
No choice, one has to work, or wont afford power and net linkup.

Rolled 3

>>31322265
It's not shit because you had an opinion, it's shit because EF created this thread SPECIFICALLY not to talk about what you spent several posts ranting about, his one request was that we leave it in the other thread

Rolled 7

>>31322265
Listen, I agree with you 100%. I was all gung ho for a federation/deliberative, and it had been apparently decided before I even woke up. But SHUT THE FUCK UP. The last thread got retarded, and we need to let it die. The choice has been made, and we need to live with it.

>>31322235
A bit of both.
The combat monks are DB, but many non-exalted children go serve the faith as well as well as some regular mortals.

Also, do you not think that the Monks (or just DB in general) would have defenses in place against "Anathema trickery"?
Besides, it's not as if it's a snap of the finger. You have to do a performance. Meaning holding a speech, performing a dance, or something like that.
In the middle of them trying to murder you horribly.
I can't see any problem at all with trying to HSDD the Immaculates. No sir.

>>31322326

>In the middle of them trying to murder you horribly.

Not in support of the 'Seduce the immaculates' ideas but I find that this part is likely why Zenith's favor resistance charms.

Rolled 9

>>31322027
>Win them slowly.
Also so that we can get more powerful by the time the Realms takes a notice.

>>31322264
It would prove them right about what exactly? I am not really up to date on their dogma.

We have to do this one way or the other and there is seriously not a better spot for HSDD than this.

Also, HSDD is not automatic, we still have to roll Social+Zenith for it to stick. They do have a chance to resist.

Rolled 1

>>31322326
We'd have to be sneaky about it, pretend to be a whore and sneak in with the other whores and seduce them then, not that I think it'll work, but hey it's worth a shot

Rolled 9

>>31322027
>Focused campaign of persuasion.

Rolled 6

>>31322377
>It would prove them right about what exactly? I am not really up to date on their dogma.
That we're power-hungry mind-controllers who want to take over the world and violate everyone's free will and other rights. Using UMI in the presence of or against immaculates will just prove them right. Like, overwhelmingly.

Rolled 6

>>31322396
That's fucking retarded.

>>31322222
Maybe we should ask Tia about her suggesting to change Maka's gender on occasion for sexy times with Amata. Though there wasn't a charm for that listed on her sheet, was there?

Rolled 7

>>31322406
It's not like they'll spare us if we don't use a UMI,

Rolled 7

>>31322132
>Focused campaign of persuasion.

>>31322425
They're a level 3 hearthstone for that

Rolled 7

>>31322428
No, it will just incense the order even more if we do use it, and likely call in a Wyld Hunt MUCH faster. Also, it's literally lowering ourselves to exactly what they saw we are, which will hurt both future recruitment efforts and probably the way our allies see us.

Basically, it's just more problem than solution, and shady as fuck to boot.

>>31322406
I reject that frame. Also I have a problem with the notion that we should allow them to continue preaching that we are demons. To invert the frame, in real life terms they are like Nazi's and we are Jews.

HSDD (or something more focused than it) is kind of like the bomb of persuasive weaponry and we are at war. Why should we restrict ourselves to the equivalent of fists when we can do better than that?

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"...They think I'm a monster. And there's only one way to defeat that notion: show everyone that I'm not." You say. "Attacking them head-on... would just prove them right."

"You're not the brightest ruler ever, but you have your good moments, Maka." She ribs you.

"I just don't have all the experience you had." Beat. "'Cause you're old."

"Oh you little-"

After the short ensuing scuffle between you and Amata is broken off, you lie back down on the bed side by side. Tia then lies down by your other side, sandwiching you between the two of them.

"...If we're married, does that mean I had sex with my children." The thought suddenly hits you. "Both of them."

"Well, no blood relation:" Amata brushes it off. "Besides, still not at the same time, much less not at the same time plus their mother plus your husband all together."

"A shame." Tia shakes her head with disapproval.

"...Is it fine, though?" You wonder.

You feel Amata's tone going unusually cold and serious, taking a step away from her jokes up to a moment ago. "...Maka. I've spent years of my life in the Realm. I've seen... things, compared to which whatever orgy, whatever sexual deviancy you might have is NOTHING. I've seen, even done, things that make my skin crawl to this day."

You feel her arms gently wrapping you with their cool touch.

"Maka. You're a good person. You're honest, and you're kind. I trust you."

"Do you trust me?" Tia asks, pointing at herself.

"...Well, you seem to be even more of a pervert than Maka, but she trusts you, so I will too."

>Talk about the Manse
>Talk about the city
>Talk about Mikahil and his architect friend
>Talk about Samiel
>Talk about Irene
>Talk about Regis and Millian
>Enough talking for now

>>31322461

No, I with a right UMI we could get them on our side. We could have them keep the Wyld Hunt at bay actually if we play it right.

>>31322515
Because HSDD isn't just "a bomb", it's the equivalent of using BCN (Biological/Chemical/Nuclear), which might win in the short term, but destroy us in the long term.

Rolled 1

>>31322536
>Talk about the Manse
let's talk about what upgrades our Manse is going to get

Rolled 8

>>31322461
There's literally nothing we could do that wouldn't call the WH down on us except be killed, no matter what we do they're going to hate us, a UMI is a tool we can use to help us, it's only shady if we use it in shady ways, stopping a wyld hunt from murdering us Tia Amata and everyone we love? pretty good in my opinion

>>31322515
If the Jews dropped an atomic bomb on Berlin, most of the world would have probably been ok with genocide. We do the equivalent, and the Realm will spare no expense in hunting us down and killing everyone who ever spoke to us

Rolled 5

>>31322536
>Talk about the Manse
>Talk about Mikahil and his architect friend

I feel like we could knock these out at the same time

Rolled 5

>>31322515
Because UMI is literally mind control. If you want to use a real-world analogy, it's like jews kidnapping nazis in order to use drugs to brainwash them into being their willing servants. In doing so, they would be PROVING THEIR OPPOSITION RIGHT by being a fucking monster just like them.

>>31322536
>Talk about the Manse
which leads to
>Talk about Irene
because I'm sure she would love to build the defenses on that thing

>>31322536
>Talk about the city

Hm, administrator, sorceress, solider, probably an elder DB and spent time in the realm. Amata sure has many hats.

>>31322560
Actually, I kind of agree to that. I would like is something that does work like a bomb and we will probably need to get HSDD as a prerequisite to that.

(Also, there is that supersex charm, which I am semi-serious about.)

Rolled 2

>>31322536
>Talk about the Manse
Together we have about 4 new manses, what can we do with those

>>31322536
>Talk about the Manse
>Talk about Mikahil and his architect friend
>Talk about Irene
all of these can fit together pretty well

Rolled 2

>>31322536
>Talk about Manse
While we are being productive

Guys, i think this discussion about UMI is pretty much capturing the essence of exalted.

The bit about having power and what you do with it and taking the high road or the hard road seems to be one of the biggest neglected facets of exalted.

So now we have a choice: To UMI or not to UMI. That is the question.

>>31322588
Our goal is to stop them from summoning the Wyld Hunt. What you call mind control is merely a step up from persuasion.

Using mind control in the battle of wills is not worse than using guns in war.

>>31322536
>Talk about the Manse
>Talk about Mikahil and his architect friend
>Talk about Irene

I think these three tie together pretty well.
I'm sure Irene would be interested in helping when Mikahil and his friend build it.


>>31322576
The end being good doesn't mean the means aren't shady.
UMI is shady as fuck, and there are other ways of building up our power base without calling the Wyld Hunt down on us.
Such as not directly and openly antagonizing or brainwashing the Immaculates, for starters.
Staying harmless and low key (well, relative to other Solars) is our best chance, imo.
As long as we don't make any big waves, the Realm is too busy to care about us.

Rolled 8

>>31322584
Seconding this line of thought.

Rolled 9

>>31322682
Right. And my stance is that we should take the harder-but-honest route. Instead of taking the easy-button and mind-controlling the immaculate monks, we should approach the situation with honesty instead of shady tactics.

I think that fits how we've played Maka so far.

And yes, the question over whether to let power corrupt you is one of the main dramatic points of Exalted, and this situation is a perfect example of it.

>>31322687
>As long as we don't make any big waves

Like marrying the Queen and making Tiger Warriors?

>>31322685
>What you call mind control is merely a step up from persuasion.

No...it's literally mind control. EF has made it clear which of the social charms are actually mind control and which are not.

>>31322536
>Talk about the Manse
>Talk about Mikahil and his architect friend
>Talk about Irene
>>31322685
It isn't using guns in war. It's using a nuke in war. Which is something that is in fact, really fucked up

Rolled 10

>>31322687
>Staying harmless and low key (well, relative to other Solars) is our best chance, imo.
>As long as we don't make any big waves, the Realm is too busy to care about us.
It's a good thing we didn't marry a Queen, make an alliance with three Lunars, and plan to retake Gem, those would be some pretty big waves

Rolled 4

>>31322687
By marrying Amata and plotting against the Immaculate Order, we've already decided we're going to have the Wyld Hunt's attention, the only question is HOW are we going to fight them

>>31322685
No anon. Using most social charms is a step up from Persuasion
UMI is mind control. Whether you see it as good or evil, necessary or not, you erode and shape a person's being to your whim

Rolled 6

>>31322685
>What you call mind control is merely a step up from persuasion.
No, there's a very important distinction.

Social charms like Majestic Radiant Presence directly affect our ability to socialize. They give us a bonus, and enhance us internally.

UMI like Husband-Seducing Demon Dance directly affects others' ability to resist. They affect someone else internally, and are a fundamentally external expression of power.

One is making us better at being social. The other is inducing a change directly in someone else. The distinction is important, and shouldn't be downplayed, regardless of what our decision on the matter is.

>>31322729
We haven't married the Queen yet, the alliance with the Lunars wasn't exactly publicly announced (as far as the general people are concerned, we just stopped the barbarian raids) and our "plans" to retake Gem aren't even plans so much as a desire to do so.


But the important thing is staying low key compared to other Solars.
The ones who start preaching the Unconquered Sun on every street corner, beat up Realm tax collectors and generally act like asses because "Solar stronk!".

The realm has a priority hit list, and as long as we have at least one other person above us on it, we're good.

>>31322709

I mean, it is mind control, but it also is a step up from persuasion.

Hmmmm...I think we should put off this decision for now. EF said that we can buy charms whenever we want.

We should first investigate them to get a sense of how difficult it will be to get Immaculates off our back.

If we use a little brains, we might be able to subdue them with words by persuading them that the Wyld Hunt would destroy Tianna along with us.

If they show no compassion, then we have all the reason to now use an UMI.

>>31322884
it's completely different from persuasion
see >>31322766

Rolled 6

>>31322884
>If they show no compassion, then we have all the reason to now use an UMI.
I expect I'll still disagree if and when it comes to that - I would sooner kill them than mind-control them - but yes, let's table the discussion for now.

>>31322884
I don't think we should even interact with them directly.
I think it's a better idea to just change the general attitude of the population over time so the Immaculate Faith slowly loses it's foothold in Tianna and eventually just phases out peacefully.

If we try to talk to them, they'll go full Anathema mode and send for help from the Realm because Satan just showed up in Church.

Also, I don't think we should UMI anyone. For any reason. I don't think it fits with Maka's character.

Rolled 2

>>31322884
>Hmmmm...I think we should put off this decision for now.
It's for the best for now at least

>>31322884
>If they show no compassion, then we have all the reason to now use an UMI.

Or they could show compassion in that although the society may get fucked up by dragging us down, they are saving the souls of every man woman and child here from an abomination against the natural order and a demon clad in the flesh of a dead woman.

There is plenty of reason for the Immaculates to oppose us beyond being assholes. What with us literally being super mega satan to them.

Though I do support debating it later, not now.

Rolled 6

>>31322884
I fully expect us to be able to convince the monks in Tianna we're okay, it's the Wyld Hunt that I know is going show that I'm worried about, but that's for later

>>31322720
>>31322759
>>31322766

Sometimes that is necessary. Let's say we had the ability to use an UMI to turn hardened criminals into decent law abiding citizens. Using that UMI would be an expression of power and twisting them to our desire, but would also be a good thing to do, to turn evil people into good people.

If the Immaculates call the Wyld Hunt, a lot of people will die needlessly and not only on our side. We have a chance to change that future to our desire.

With normal persuasion we almost definitely will not be able to pull that off, the most we will be able to manage will be to turn the citizenry into our favor (which would summon the Wyld Hunt.)

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>>31322964
>Or they could show compassion in that although the society may get fucked up by dragging us down, they are saving the souls of every man woman and child here from an abomination against the natural order and a demon clad in the flesh of a dead woman.
That's a good point. Immaculate dogma is that celestial exalts - anathema, like us - are demons who stole the power of the sun/moon, ate the soul of a heroic mortal, and are now living in the body of that now-dead person to fuck up the world. Anything we say to the effect of still being the same person is a lie, and even when it seems like we're doing good, it's only to pursue some wicked plan.

From their perspective, they would be condemning the people of Tianna to mind control or worse by compromising with us.

>>31322996
So you're saying the ends justifies the means?

I disagree.

>>31322996
you underestimate persuasion charms and overestimate the scale of UMI

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>>31322996
I'm sorry, but I disagree. With normal persuasion, we can get ourselves to the point where we're getting +3 dice and +1 success on every roll, and every time we succeed we do 6 points worth of intimacy building/damaging. That's two normal charms away. That's huge.

On the other hand, UMI is literally mind control, and is not only an easy button but us directly doing away with someone's free will in order to reshape them into what we want.

I'll support the former over the latter 100% of the time, and I would sooner kill a person immune to persuasion than mind control them. At least then they could reincarnate instead of being less-than-a-slave.

>>31323011

Yeah. While there are plenty of asshole Immaculates...there are also plenty who are genuinely there to help people as best they can and believe they are giving rest to a tortured being.

It's why I'd rather not a direct confrontation with them. Still, we'll burn that bridge when we come to it, I imagine.

By now you're all three tangled in the bedsheets in various state of undressment - and considering your choice of costume, you didn't have to go a long way to get there. Especially considering both Tia and Amata are both very involved in the idea of touching and teasing you.

You're a bit surprised at Tia being so gentle with you though. You have to wonder if it's Amata or Millian and Regis doing this to her. You had the two young servants stay on a whim, but now you wonder if you should involve them all the way through, let them leave, or say nothing and let them decide if abandon the scene, be an audience, or be active participants on their own.

Meanwhile, you multitask, bringing up with Amata the subject of Mikail's "friend".

"Is he another... well, you know. Another Solar?"

"Honestly? I don't know. Might be, might be not. I think it's a she, though. Valeriana Kava. All I know is that she's a craftswoman with an interest in architecture and urban planning."

"Mikahil knows a lot of people."

"He sure does." She replies. "I think he used to be a member of a trading company, but he also travels a lot. I think he actively tries to get to know as many people as possible. Like he's gathering allies or contacts for some project of his. He has an enormous web of debts and favors in the entire West, probably all of Creation."

"Wouldn't be surprised if someone like him knew other Solars besides you." Is Tia's opinion. "I wonder if his Lunar already found him."

"Did you contact him?"

"I did just before coming here." Amata nods. "Been a while since I used that spell. He said he was in Coral. She'll contact this Valeriana and, if everything goes off without a hitch, be here in one week with her."

"Provided she says yes." You point out.

"If she doesn't, could Irene do it?"

"Geomancy and magical architecture aren't her forte. We have some books she could use as reference, though. She could try, if this Valeriana person declines."

>Talk about?

Rolled 8

>>31323069
Yeah, and aside from the chapters of the immaculate texts concerning exalts, it tends to be an overwhelmingly good and positive influence that puts out tons of helpful, correct information.

Rolled 3

>>31316853

The old thread is still up you everyone really wants to continue this conversation

>>31323031
Justice changes according to power.

Suppose you pass a beggar on the street and it starts clutching at your sides begging to not let him starve. Your reaction will be and should be different depending on how much money you have. If giving him money to eat means that you and your children will starve then I would say it is justified to kick him away.

>>31323096

Agreed. While they DO bully gods a fair bit when they act up...the gods kinda deserve it a lot of the time in exalted. Case In Point Miss 'I wanna have human sacrifice!'

>>31323098
Yes.
Please, move this discussion about UMI out of the game thread.

>>31323102
no. it is justified to tell him you can't help him because you're practically starving as well. Why the hell would you beat a starving defenseless person?

Rolled 4

>>31323133
Exactly. If there was a stronger Immaculate presence on the island, that shit would have never flown. Mind you, it's ultimately good for us that there isn't one, but, you know, context.

Rolled 4

>>31323085
>>Talk about Regis and Millian
Subtly encourage them to participate, but don't force them

Rolled 4

>>31323165
seconding this