Nice to see another thread of this. So what do we have to do now?

I imagine the main EVA Base is in Tokyo, while the principal Shatterdome is in San Francisco, where the first kaiju attack took place.

Where exactly are the Breaches? We did established one old Breach at the South Pole, but where are the current ones?

>>31764429
Pacific where it was in the movie, and one in the Atlantic

>>31764429
Somewhere in the Pacific and the Atlantic, I don't think it was stated exactly where the one in the movie was though.

>>31764373
Shatterdomes need to be on the sea to intercept kiaju. so...
New York
Miami
Probably Rio
Some coast in Spain.
The one from the movie
One on the coast of convict land.
Alaska
Seattle
West Mexico shore
west south America.
and eastern Russia

Nerv bases are just in any big city

>>31764533
>The one from the movie

Hong Kong.

>>31764533

What about EVA bases? They're a lot bigger then Shatterdomes, as they need to be underground and have a lot of storage and power facilities for the EVA units.

>>31764598
... The bottom of my post?
Eva=nerv base
The eva's have to be really close to a large power supply, the angles only attack large populated area, so do kiaju.
so by extension Eva bases would have to be in large populated cities. otherwise the kiaju could just walk right past the eva base in Georgia and destroy Washington DC.

Evas at major cities, jaeger at major cities that are ports and have tactical kiaju interception capability.

>>31764598
St. Petersburg, Russia (Vladivostok is a Jaegar Shatterdome)
Toyko 3, Japan (duh)
Hamburg, Germany
Alexandria, Egypt and Answan, Egypt (both of these Shatterdomes are quite small)
Pyongyang
Shanghai, China (Hong Kong is a Jaegar Shatterdome)
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

And probably a few other bases around the world. I don't know enough about India to assign anything.

I'd imagine countries like Africa, Southeast Asia, and Australia get attacked from the Indian Ocean as well. Kaiju trying to circumnavigate the globe and what not. In fact, Africa is probably a kaiju infested hellhole or a toxic wasteland.

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We should map the Geo-Fronts and Shatterdomes with little PPDC/NERV logos. Here are all the shatterdomes they had in the movie, just replace the Tokyo one with a Geofront and we would be good to go.

>>31764896

This is a good map. We need to add the Nerv Logo and the EVA units used at each Geofront as well to this.

>>31764943
Well we were going to have the game start with a situation similar to PR where all but one of the Shatterdomes/Geofronts have been shut down. Also it should be up the the GM what Jaegers/EVAs would still be around

>>31765007
You'd probably only have two Shatterdomes active. One in the Atlantic, and one in the Pacific.

>>31765025
NERV and PPDC would probably have bases at the Panama Canal, leave those the last ones operating as they can theoretically cover both breaches

>>31764896
nervs are
"Magi 06," is located in Beijing, China.
Matsushiro Secondary Experiment Facility is a secondary facility in Matsushiro, which neighbors Tokyo-2, on the site of modern-day Nagano
Nerv-03 (also known simply as "Nerv-Germany") is located in Germany (possibly in Berlin or Hamburg)
Nerv-02, is located in Nevada, USA (possibly at Area 51)
Nerv-01 is located in Massachusetts, USA.
Tabgha Base is the 7th Branch of Nerv, stationed in Mare Tranquilitatis of the Moon
Bethany Base is a branch of Nerv dedicated to the study and containment of the Third Angel, located at the Old North Pole
Golgotha Base location unknown

>>31765071
>Tabgha Base is the 7th Branch of Nerv, stationed in Mare Tranquilitatis of the Moon

How should this be handled?

>>31765071
And or course geofront at Tokyo 3

>>31765007

Doesn;t mean we can't fluff out the entire course prior to that, so where all the bases were before they were closed/brought offline.

>>31765087

We can ignore that which isn't as connected to the terrestrial conflict, so we can relocate several bases to more terrestrial locations.

>>31765087
Probably just don't mention it.

Shatterdome Locations:
>Alaska
>Baja California
>Hong Kong
>Los Angeles
>New York
>France
>Panama Canal
>South Africa
>Sydney
>UK
>Vladivostok


Geofront/NERV base Locations:
>Brazil
>China
>Egypt
>Germany
>India
>Japan
>Panama Canal
>Taiwan
>The Philippines
>Western Russia


At the start of the game all of the Shatterdomes and Geofront sites except for the ones located at the Panama Canal has been shut down, pending shutdown of both the Jaeger and EVA programs. Some of NERV's research only facilities may remain active, however.

>>31764373
more summary
>jet alone is a jeager
> blade wolf is also a jeager
> a pair of Arabian jeager pilots and an Israeli eva pilot.
>we've yet to build a system to play this game and that makes me sad.
>megas xlr shows up.

>>31765342
Shouldn't one of the NERV bases be destroyed due to Delta Dreamer blowing it up?

>>31765342
The Panama Canal isn't that interesting a setting, though.

Maybe it's a giant city now due to the Kaiju War Economy. With lots of immigrants from all over the world. Makes things interesting.

>>31765416

The Panama Canal with a Shatterdome at one end and a Geofront at the other, and between then living space for the personell of both bases.

Sounds interesting to me.

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>>31765402
Do you mean the Unit-04/S2 Engine disaster?

>>31765416
Its a very important strategic location considering Kaiju are coming up from both Oceans. It probably would have been developed into a Tokyo 3 esque fortress city.

>>31765441

Yeah, this.

>>31765416
How is it not interesting? There is both a Shatterdome and a Geofront there, and can deploy to both oceans.

>>31765441
Oh I like the idea of the incident that caused EVAs getting kicked out of America being the Delta Dreamer incident.

>>31765472
That was the NERV base located at area 51, the Massachusetts base was shut down, the US terminated its EVA program, and NERV was kicked out of the country.

>>31765478
I mean, the Panama Canal itself.

>>31765513
That's not cool, my great grandfather helped build it!

>>31765389
Don't forget Monty the rogue kiaju
>seporated from the hivemind
>can get on the internet with ocean cables and stuff.
>Total bro to humanity.

>>31765581
I'm just suggesting having it become some futuristic city so it becomes a bit more interesting.

>>31765619

Didn't we already establish that? Between the Geofront and the Shatterdome a whole city has sprung up to service both. Arguments and fights between EVA and Jaeger personnel are rare, but have happened, and mostly the two keep to themselves.

>>31765700
>Didn't we already establish that?

No.

>>31765711
Well we just did

>>31765711
Well we have now

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OK let's actually decide on a system to run this. Also which side would you be on? PPDC master race reporting

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>>31765342
Don't forget the antarctic base where Seele unearthed the frozen prehistoric Kaiju corpse.

>>31765949
Refluffing AdEVA would probably be the simplest thing to do.

>>31765949
The implication has always been that we'd just fuck with AdEva to run it.

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Should Pentecost and Gendo be in this?

>>31766146
Maybe if v3 turns out well.

>>31766237
They are still working on it?

>>31766254
You wouldn't know it thanks to their closed echochamber alpha to filter out criticism from people who know anything about game design.

But yeah, technically.

>>31766317
Fuck

just a suggestion: a simple idea game-wise would be a dice pool system like WoD (the simplest concept of stat+stat=dice, a roll is target number on dice+number of successes) then have robots add to/multiply the number of dice the pilot uses on their normal sheet. this keeps the availability of roleplaying outside of the robot, while having the robot add a TON of power to the character and keep things interesting.

MontyFag Reporting
>>31765342
Wanna Add Midway, Shatterdome Yorktown.

Course we can have the place shutdown to fit with modern fluff,

>>31765402
The "Delta Dream Incident" could happen at a later date, this being in response to a certain Dad getting to a certain level of Pissed.

And remember, he is in a Jaeger, and managed to solo it for THREE DAYS, if the original story is to be believed.

>>31766629
obviously, different bots will have different amounts of mental strain that the character must meet or exceed the requirement for, and they only add to/multiply the physical stats of the user.

>>31766228
MontyFag Again, and maybe???

We are creating Original NPC's of our own, so they aren't really necessary.

But they are both awesome in Antagonist/Protagonist way.

>>31766228
If you want them in, absolutely. I think Gendo has sorta been absorbed into the Delta Dream crew though, so might not be the director of NERV
Pentecost should be one of the few Rangers thats respected in both camps, a real living legend

>>31766781
>I think Gendo has sorta been absorbed into the Delta Dream crew though
Stop fucking trying to pull this shit

Pinoyfag reporting.

If you want to have both NERV and the PPDC in the Philippines, you put one in Manila and the other in Cebu. Which one goes where doesn't really matter, as both are ports. It feels more appropriate for me if you put the PPDC in Manila and incorporate Corregidor somehow.

Montyfag Reporting
Again...

Right The Jaegar Circus.

A group of out-of-date, scratch-built, or possibly Illegal Jaegar who randomly pop up around the Ring of Fire, assisting and generally be ok people.

They are not apart of the PPDC, yet somehow have the backing and resources to remain an indepdant fighting force.

They apparently have regular contact with Monty, and have regular fight alongside each other during large Breaches.

>>31766848
There really isn't much of a chance that he'll drop the whole Gendo thing.

Trust me, i've been trying since the first thread.

the only way we could counter-act this Gendo-Bullshit, is to Fluff a Father-Son Pilot Combo for "Delta Dream"

And make it GOOD.

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>>31767230
Gendo should still be the commander of NERV. I wouldn't change things unnecessarily.

The Delta Dream team could just be new characters.

loving the metal gear angle on specialized characters in the plot along with the conspiracy angle that can be taken out of the cockpit, as mentioned in the other threads. not loving AdEva's mechanics. loving the Dice pool idea that has robot stats adding to the character's pool mentioned earlier in the thread. theres a lot of good ideas swirling here, i just hope we can get it together in a single pot.

So in Pacific Rim what was the whole thing about alloys being inferior? They mention Gypsy Danger is solid iron, no alloys, as if that is a good thing.

>>31767620
Because Pacific Rim doesn't place much importance on realism? It's a movie about giant mecha beating up giant monsters.

>>31767586
Conspiracy is a must. The UN, SEELE, the Patriots, Hannibal Chau, and NERV are all in play.

I'll again reiterate the idea of giving SEELE points (that they can spend on covert actions) when characters accomplish tasks that are beneficial for their plans, such as selling certain kaiju organs to Chau. Which organs are wanted would be decided by a dice roll, I suppose, and perhaps their overall plans would be as well.

What I'm trying to say is that SEELE's plans should be almost unknowable and involve the players themselves in unknowingly accomplishing them.

>>31767676
Sure, but most unrealistic things have some reasoning behind them, like just being cool. The allow thing is just so out there, I don't understand why it is even a thing.

>>31767230
>>31767262
Right lets start from the top with the Pilots. Dad, Mom, and Son.

Nationalities? Places of Birth/Places that they call Home. And the Name and Mark of the Jaeger that Ma and Pa piloted together.

Possible name; Highborn Nova, Tango Margarita, Gentile King
And Mark 2 methinks

>>31767679
With the Metal Gear angle in mind, I think we've found our official cause of the disaster in the arctic, as well as a way to balance US EVA numbers
Someone mentioned that one of the few ways to reliably contain an EVA is freezing water, which makes Alaska the best place to prototype new models. However, one of these projects went awry and a US infiltrator was sent to contain the project. The full details of the operation remain classified at the highest levels, but what is know is that both the NERV research centre and the nearby Shatterdome were destroyed in a large explosion

>>31766883
That sound a bit weird to be a group of guys that are around.
What about something they are a group of monty groupies and counter kiaju cultists.
They won't to stop seele and the aliens so that the larger kiaju can be free and bro out like monty?

>>31767918
The US doesn't have any EVAs. Not since the Southwest blew up.

>>31767935
I thought it was the Alaskan NERV base going up that put the US EVA project on hold? Something to do with digging out an early breach or frozen remains of early Kaiju
>>31767920
Could be thats how they see themselves, but the hidden truth is that SEELE are funding them so as to keep at least a partial eye on Monty

>>31767620
The alloy was a sign of date of build. the other mechs were referbished with alloys and new computer based systems.
Gypsy was old but didn't need a huge amount of reworking after the hull rebuild.
So it was still solid steel and mostly mechanical motion with pistons and hydrolics not electronic based on motors hooked to computer circuits.
The emp would slow them down but not shut them down.

>>31768029
That'd be Antartica.

>>31768029
Double conspiracy, sounds good.

>>31768029
It was the Area 51 NERV base that went kaboom, taking out everything in a several hundred mile area with it. NERV was experimenting on the S2 Engine at the site with Unit-04, when something went wrong.

>>31768043
Steel is an alloy, they say GD is solid iron

>>31768063
Dammit. Oh well, its still a wintery base in the grips of a conspiracy fighting itself, it works for the reference I was making

>>31766738
are we doing anything with jet alone?

i really liked the idea of prime showing up with a hammer to bash in some kiju

>>31767846
Dad: Samuel L Johnson
Mom: Claire Johnson
son: Kyle Samuelson

Scandinavians that moved to the Us after the "dead" kiagu fish thing took out a European base after destroying unit 2

The jaeger name is Delta Dream, that why we are calling it the Delta Dream indecent, it should be a mark 3 or 4.
Marks lower than 3 were rare remember they where taken apart to make newer marks, Cherno was just old as fugg.

>>31768235
Jet should just have some teritory he stays in, hates kiaju, human abandoned him, he just wants to be left alone maybe make some of the outside factions on talking terms like >>31766883
>>31765588
But not have him just show up unless a kiaju gets to his territory.
Maybe he could live in Mountains of some continent.

>>31768369
Jet should live on a small island somewhere in the Pacific, semi regularly going out to attack Kaiju in the area.
Abandoned by humanity, but still as driven as only a machine made to save the world can, Jet marks his passing with three words
JET RIDES ALONE

>>31768449
Sounds pretty cool.
Would make for interesting encounters for forward attacking jaegers.

>>31768449
>>31768369
Hmmm, I think Monty would pay him a visit.

Sad Robots are interesting. Might even try to befriend the Angered AI.

Or maybe after Jet tries to kill him a few times, he'll just leave him alone.

>>31768281
I like the Scandinavian Idea, as well as the Move to the US, makes sense actually, with NERV still likely recruiting from the USA.

And as for the Jaeger, I was thinking that this Mother/Father Combo have been fighting Kaiju for a fairly long while, so them piloting a Mark 2 at the European Base isn't so far fetched. Hell, the Mom might have died in the same fight that destroyed the Base.

>>31768449

so then referring back to the map here>>31764373 jet should live some where between Hawaii and New Guinean.
That sounds good but i have to wonder, are we talking about jet alone or jet alone prime as i think they were different. prime being able to take out angels as well as kiju.

>>31768955
Lets say Prime, because I like the idea of Jet Alone forging a hammer from salvage
So it goes from Jet Alone, the first last and only Japanese Jeager, being sabotaged by SEELE to promote NERV's EVA program
Shortly after Jet falls though the wreck simply disappears, presumed lost at sea. Then the message JET RIDES ALONE starts appearing, most often written in Kaiju blood and bone

>>31768955
A hybrid might be best jet alone was kinda useless.
Prime was good but last thread we liked the first design more with the Castel in the Sky look.
So perhaps normal Jet Alone, with his prime hammer and cooling pipes out the back.
The look of the original with the capability of the second.

>>31768955
>>31768955
>>31769091
I like all of this. Make it so.

This guy is AI contolled right?

>>31769128
Basically.

>>31769151
What if he is pulling a Monty too? Plugging into the Web, hacking into NERV and PPDC to search for Kaiju Sightings and the Like?

>>31769128
yep, so does he ever meet any of the eva pilots and how do you think he feels about them considering that he was sabotaged to make them look good?

Actually i don't think we have any NPC EVA pilots of note, maybe we should fix that.

>>31769198
Runs his own early detection system perhaps?
Not as sophisticated but its only meant to go off if a Kaiju, Jaeger or EVA walk into his domain

>>31769198
OR, he is trying to find out why he failed. Why he was scrapped. Why the people he was built to save betrayed him.

And finds out NERV, and to a greater extent SEELE, was behind it.

>>31769205

I would figure that he would hate the Organization, not the pilots that are simply pawns to there schemes.

He wouldn't care about them, he wouldn't go out of his way to save them, but he isn't going to attack them either.

Unless they attack first.

>>31769198
Fine by me.

>>31769205
You could make that a plot point, eventually he finds out he was sabotaged and starts actually attacking Eva's not just being neutral.
As a Jaeger you could either help him get revenge, stop him, or help reconcile him.
As an Eva you can try to reconcile him or stop him.

If you chose to help him get revenge you will end up destroying an Eva and attacking a Nerv base, he will let you come into his territory and hang with him.
If you stop him you must fight him, killing him, or drive him away from his target.
IF You reconcile him it takes a while but he will become friendly and help you out once in a while.

>>31769248
so maybe one day he'll go after NERV with hate in his metal heart and a scrap hammer in his metal hands.

This entire concept has gone fucking stupid
>lel NEET Kaiju
>METAL GEAR!!
>JET RIDES ALONE
You fucked it up /tg/

>>31764864
So Jaegers have Shatterdomes
Nerv has Geofronts?

>>31769453
I kinda agree with this. Monty is too much of a joke character and Jet Alone is better left as a Jaegar NERV sabotaged.

>>31769469
Yes

>>31766228

Yes. Pentecost is the head of the PPDC, and Gendo is the head of Seele.

>>31769453
>>31769481
I feel the same. The concept of a Kaiju not connected to the Precursor hivemind that went rogue was decent, but it went into joke territory fast.

>>31769481
so just re fluff Monty as a kiju who was broken off from a hive mind and got into the internet off of his biological need to learn about our world to sabotage it, but becomes sentient after awhile and decided he likes our world so he fights for humans.

jet alone is fine as an angry AI and we can do things with it.

>>31769453
well lets hear a suggestion from you then as you clearly know the answer to make the setting better.

>>31769625
Even it being on the internet was okay at first, so long as it acts like a computer virus or hacker.

But if it just goofs off, then why bother?

>>31769481
>>31769625

Yeah. We don't want this project decaying into jokes and madness if we can help it.

>>31766146
I never browsed the rules intensely myself but doesn't AdEva have a bunch of sanity stats due to the fact that being a moody teenager facing freudian mind rapists was part of the EVA setting, I'm not super sure if that works well with Jaegers... Maybe it could be "Chasing the Rabbit?" like that one scene in the movie where Mako gets stuck on one REALLY bad memory?

>>31769651
he needs to act like a monster that got into the internet, at first messing with things and learning to keep a low profile but then later doing more daring things to disrupt us.

you could even give him an emerging self dialogue that has him wondering why he's doing what he's doing and if he really wants to do it.

>>31769469
Pretty Much.
>>31769641
As the dude originally behind Monty, I can see that ya, he might need some toning done.

I accept your idea, He fights for this world cause he likes it a lot better then the one he departed. So many interesting things to learn.

And I had an idea that he did act like a virus at first, generally fucking around databases, staling info and such. That would have been BEFORE he cut himself off from the Hivemind.

>>31769670

Yeah.. Jaeger Pilots have their mental traumas, though they come from service and are not usually inherent to the pilots.

>>31769670
IIRC AdEVA was originally a Dark Heresy homebrew, though I'm not 100% on that
Either way, it makes for an interesting contrast between the two. Jaeger pilots make one hard san test when they start the drift and it gets easier over time, plus they rarely have to re-test unless something drastic happens
But EVA pilots are relatively eased into, but the harder they push and the longer they fight the more the sanity tests pile up and get harder

>>31769453
Ya no Jet Rides Alone, but I like just plain Jet Alone (prime) existing somewhere in the world still trying to defend humanity.

>>31769762

Jet Alone was a Jaeger destroyed to clear the way for EVAs. I presume that was after Stacker left Tokyo with Coyote Tango.

The original concept for Monty was something like the computer virus angel, which would be more hostile than not.

I'm not entirely against friendly kaiju (in moderation), but I think there should be a black hat to Monty's white.

>>31769809
Then make one, fuck say that the Hivemind got pissed it lost its best Dataminer and created another. And this one doesn't go frakking Rogue, which would probably lead to a confrontation between it and Monty.

>>31767679

And of course how NERV and Seele react to the PPDC and vice versa.

>>31769809

I prefer the idea of a single rogue agent Kaiju, one that is simply a disconnected wild animal with above average intelligence and cunning. It isn't friendly to anyone.

>>31769939
I do as well. After all, let's say the humans win the war. The Earth can't support a giant animal indefinitely.

>>31769939
This would be ideal

>>31769861
I would figure a Bardiel analogue would make the best match for monty. With bardiel being the blue goop angel that took over an eva. where monty is a virus/hacker Bardiel-analogue would be more like a tumor/parasite, being able to take over evas and jaegers and giving pilots a mental shock and Mind unpleasantness. Plus with bardiel analogue might be the Engineers/precursors way of re-exerting control over monty.

>>31769939
So basically what Godzilla is.

>>31770093
There was a literal computer virus angel, but I can't remember its name

>>31770117
Iruel. The computer virus angel was Iruel. it was hacking the shit out of Nerv and was gonna make the magi go self destruct I believe.

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>>31770093
No, the Bardiel analogue is a goop that a Kaiju can spray onto an EVA or Jaegar, effectively puppeting it. The goop isn't a kaiju in and of itself, but a weapon.

And one that leaves its victims mentally scarred even after it is defeated.

>>31770215
Well damn... what about the Tumor Kaiju idea? One that functions similarly to Armisael, or closer to a shoggoth? We need a Big Villain to show up at the end of a campeign to POP out from the breach and an adaptive Super Tumor seems to be a cool idea.

Or do we wanna roll with Tabris?

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>>31770284
Tabris is a kaiju hybrid (like Rei) developed by SEELE.

While Rei was designed to study the hivemind of the kaiju through a limited version of it between the clones (think the Misaka Network from A Certain Magical Index), Kaworu was intended to be a kind of prophet for SEELE. Linked to the kaiju hivemind, but indirectly.

He betrays them, of course. With a MP EVA or something.

>>31770361
>He betrays them, of course. With a MP EVA or something.

And then a Jaeger has to destroy it. The first Jaeger on EVA battle.

>>31770416
Here I was hoping it would be through Bardiel Kaiju puppetry.

>>31770441
Who says that can't happen later?


I'm saying Monty should still be a thing. Maybe not NEET Super Hacker Kaiju that Humanity Needs, but he should still be a thing.

And part of the reason he became rouge was the fact that he was a LVL 5, and was smarter the your average Kaiju. A lot smarter.

>>31770441
Does it really matter what order it is? That's for the DM to decide.

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>>31770117
I've started putting together a preliminary timeline based on stuff I liked from the previous two threads. Still a lot of blanks to fill, but posting now.

>1960s
Following the prophecy of the true Dead Sea Scrolls, the ancient shadow organization SEELE organized an expedition to the Antarctic.

>1980s
After 20 years of searching the remains of a monstrous being were discovered buried under the ice, a base is established at the site. Seele establishes a front, the Biotech Firm Gehirn, and sends samples of the Antarctic creature now dubbed “Adam” to Gehirn labs across the world.

>1990s
Gehirn develops the MAGI organic computer system based on the brain tissue of the Adam creature.

>2000s
At the SEELE Antarctic site something is found buried several miles under the ice, the ancient breach now frozen and abandoned. It is quickly reburied and placed under heavy guard, SEELE moves to stage two of their plan.

Evangelion Project is started, with Gehirn attempting to clone a lobotomized version of the Adam creature. Utilizing technology originally developed for the MAGI system, a human could be "synced" with the clone's dormant mind, allowing the human to take control of the body as if it were their own.

>>31770552
We already said something about that up above. He's a rogue Kaiju, cut off from the Hivemind, and he's not friendly to anyone. Basically Godzilla mode.

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>>31770628
>2013
K-Day, the Kaiju Trespasser comes ashore on the California coast. After six days of battling the beast with conventional weapons, the US military finally attacks and kills Trespasser with a nuclear strike. The California Bay Area is totally destroyed, and contaminated with the toxic substance Kaiju Blue. Tens of thousands of people are dead, hundreds of thousands wounded, millions are now homeless.

After dozens of failed attempts, Gehirn finally succeeds in growing the EVA series prototype, Unit-00.

>2014
Three additional Kaiju attacks are unleashed on coastal cities of the Pacific and Atlantic, all three must also be put down by nuclear weapons. Jasper Schoenfeld proposes the Jaeger Program during a special UN general assembly session on the Kaiju threat.


Pressured by the sudden appearance of the Jaeger Project, Seele dissolves Gehirn and transfers all personnel and assets to the new agency NERV. Which goes public with the EVA program as its own solution to the Kaiju threat.

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>>31770654
>2015
American Jaeger prototype Brawler Yukon engages Kaiju Karloff and is victorious.

Japanese Jaeger prototype Jet Alone is deployed in Tokyo Bay to intercept Kaiju Onibaba. Disaster strikes as a glitch in the Drift software results in the death of both pilots, disabling Jet Alone and leaving Tokyo defenseless. NERV springs into action by deploying prototype EVA Unit-00, managing to bring down Onibaba. The incident is shrouded in controversy, with accusations of sabotage and incompetence thrown to both sides. In the end Japan terminates its Jaeger program, and orders Jet Alone scrapped. Mysteriously, the ship transporting the Jaeger never arrived at its destination.

The UN Security Council is impressed with both systems, and approves both. The PPDC received funding for 30 Jaegers across 5 production lines, and NERV approval for one additional prototype and 18 full production Evangelions.

>2016
6 Mark I Jaegers enter service.
EVA Unit-01 Finished

Unit-00 sent on secret mission through the Atlantic Breach by SEELE, it returns with a captive Precursor/Engineer codenamed “Lilith”. It is stored in statis at one of the new Geofront facilities, at the lowest level. Not even high ranking NERV personnel know of Lilith’s existence.

>>31770654

The Un, under pressure to close Hell's Gate approves both the EVA and Jaeger Programs. NERV maintains control of the EVA program while a new organization, the Pan Pacific Defence Corps is formed to operate, build and manage the Jaegers.

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>>31770722
>2017
6 Mark II Jaegers enter service.

EVA Units 02, 03, and 04 finished

While originally intending to operate both Evangelions and Jaegers, the United States abandons its EVA program after a disaster involving the NERV facility at Area 51. In the wake of an unsanctioned experiment involving Unit-04 and a prototype power source, the entire facility and everything within 100 miles is atomized. NERV was kicked from the country, and America’s remaining EVA Unit was donated to Egypt.

>2018
6 Mark III Jaegers enter service.

EVA Units 05, 06, 07, 08, and 09 finished.

>2019
6 Mark IV Jaegers enter service.

EVA Units 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15 finished

>2020
Heavily over budget, only one Mark V Jaeger is produced, the rest of the line canceled. An additional 6 Mark IV Jaegers are built instead, ending the first Jaeger production order.

EVA Units 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20 finished. The first EVA series production order is complete.

>2021
Just as it seemed Humanity might have the upper hand, the frequency and severity of Kaiju attacks begin to escalate. Casualties begin to mount for both Jaegers and EVA Units.

The PPDC opens the Oblivion Bay facility in the ruins of Oakland to house Jaegers wrecks damaged beyond repair, while NERV stores the shattered remains of defeated EVAs in Graveyard facilities in the deepest depths of the Geofronts.

>>31765949
If there's two breaches and Jaegers aren't exclusive to the Pacific theatre, should it even be called the PPDC anymore?

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>>31770767
>2024
An unprecedented 15 Kaiju emerge from the Rifts in one year, all stronger than the ones that came before. By the time the year ends, 12 Jaegers and 5 EVAs are destroyed. In addition to the losses mounted over the previous few years, only 2 Jaegers and 2 EVA Units are still intact.

The UN Security Council decides both programs have become unsustainable.

>2025
The present day, only the Shatterdome and Geofront facilities located at the Panama Canal remain active. The UN has diverted funding from both NERV and the PPDC to the Wall of Life project. In 2026, both organizations are scheduled to be disbanded.

>>31770628
>>31770654
>>31770722
>>31770767

This timeline is fan-fucking tastic anon, thank you so very much.

>>31770831
Jaegar Defense Corps?

>>31770831
Good Point. Might just be called that because that's were there original focus was.

>>31770831

Well, it was originally confined to the Pacific, and despite it's more global reach it retains the name to remind the Rangers where their war started.

>>31770831
Pan Planetary Defence Corps, done

>>31770886
This.

>>31770871
>>31770875

I like this.

>>31770836
Is it really a good idea to say that there's hardly any Jaegers and Evas remaining, and that the programs are being shut down, when the goal is to put PCs into pilot's seats?

Has this thread been archived yet?

>>31770910

A Final Strike to deliver an experimental weapon into the breach. Which is actually Seele trying to start Third Impact or something.

>>31770910
I pictured the game taking place during the high point of the war, before PPDC and NERV got desperate enough to team up

>>31770910
It gives the story more urgency and players would have different backgrounds of rangers/pilots to choose from.

You could have rookies like Mako and Shinji, washed up veterans like Yancy Beckett, or untested prodigies like Asuka. And, of course, being a Rei clone is an option as well.

>>31770981
This makes the most sense.

And with the timeline, you could pretty much start anywhere you like.

>>31771012
>And with the timeline, you could pretty much start anywhere you like.

Really, this. Freedom of choice. If you want the final throw of the dice, then you can. If you want to go solo in the happy time, you can.

>>31771051
>Start as pilots at the beginning of the Kaiju War
>MARK 1 Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots
>Start at the End, when the Breach needs Breaching
>OMG LAZORS AND FUSIONS GUNS AND OXYGEN DESTORYERS OH MY!

>>31771110

And Positron Rifles.

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>>31770910
Well I think so, It gives the GM a more manageable scenario with just one Shatterdome and Geofront to worry about, the number of remaining Jaegers/EVAs can be tailored to your group size. It also gives the group a small base to expand upon.

Over the course of 2025 the Wall would of course fail, and the UN would extend the programs. From there more EVAs/Jaegers can be built, the facilities expanded, R&D stuff worked on, and so on.

And of course every group is always free to start their game whenever.

>>31770910
Actually, this kind of works. It leaves it open to the one running the game which way the war goes at campaign launch.
One possible route mirrors the PR movie: the last Evangelions and Jaegers try to hold the line from one last stronghold, forced to work together despite their organizations' mutual dislike of one another.
Down another, the Breaches start letting through multiple Kaiju at a time, causing the plans for disbandment to fall through and the allied countries to desperately scramble for the resources to ramp production back up.

Both roads open up the possibility of desperately trying to return Jaegers and Evangelions consigned to Oblivion Bay to combat-ready status as a stopgap measure.

>>31771006
I know we're iffy about featuring canonical characters from either series but It might be an idea to try fluffing them out once we decide on a system, You know like those premade character sheets or something.

Plus I am not abandoning my imaginary Gendo v. Pentecost thingy

>>31771203

I imagine it's mostly one sided. Pentecost doesn't really care if Gendo dislikes him, and Pentecost would be known and respected even by members of NERV. Katsurangi would certainly see him as an inspiring figure.

>>31771203
Honestly, Gendo vs. Pentecost has been on my mind since I stumbled across the first thread.
One man's out to cancel the apocalypse, the other one's out to usher it in under his terms.

>>31771153
>Over the course of 2025 the Wall would of course fail, and the UN would extend the programs. From there more EVAs/Jaegers can be built, the facilities expanded, R&D stuff worked on, and so on.
I like this. Most Evas and Jaegers get wrecked, programs are winding down in favor of the wall (or whatever), when suddenly OH SHIT IT'S WRECKED! SCRAMBLE THE REMAINING EVAS AND JAEGERS! OH SHIT, THOSE ARE ALL WE HAVE TO DEFEND AGAINST KAIJU! GET NEW JAEGERS AND EVAS PRODUCED DOUBLE TIME! And then they have to team up and shit, and this is when the PCs come in: on the ruins of the nearly shut-down programs.

>>31771203
And we should start working on Orignal Characters for both NERV and PPDC, seeing as the only one we have really created was "Delta Dream". "Blade Wolf" was obviously a MGS Joke, and we have no EVA's to speak of.

Time to Fluff.

>>31771203
You'd probably have to adapt Evangelion characters to the Pacific Rim world. You'd have to push their birth years forward, for one.

Shinji is actually older than Mako. It's weird.

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>>31771153
What if, the wall doesn't fall? Lulling people into a false sense of security. At which point Sahaquiel or Shaquiel or whatever big spacey angel was named shows up to rain Kaiju eggs from the sky after elevating from the breach with a Organic Weather Balloon.

>>31771289

EVA Unit 009, produced in Tokyo and delivered to the Philippines under NERV's command.

>>31771274
That is exactly what I was thinking, it makes the perfect springboard for a campaign.

>>31771334
Umm...is that it?

>>31771289

Shrike Victor, a Jaeger produced in Austrlaia but crewed by New Zealanders. Statooned at the Sydney Shatterdome, and one of the few to see service alongside an EVA when it was detached to China to serve at the Hong Kong Shatterdome, where it battled a double event alongside EVA unit 014.

>>31771379

Just throwing ideas out there for other anons to pick up on.

>Santiago Pucci
A Brazilian who pilot Unit 15. Orphaned after a Kaiju attack on Rio he was adopted, unbeknownst to him, by two NERV agents who forced a rivalry between him and his foster sister, the one the deemed the winner would become an EVA pilot. After becoming a pilot he used his influence to move his "family" to America

>Michelle Pucci
A Ranger and co-pilot of the Mk. 4 Jaeger Emerald Shark. Originally from Brazil, she was orphaned by a Kaiju attack on Rio and adopted by two NERV agents and raised to be a rival to her brother. After unknowingly denied the "right" to pilot and sent to America she enlisted in the PPDC and tested to be a Ranger, half in an attempt to get revenge and half to spite her brother. She was certified and partnered up with her now best friend Trey Richard

>>31771334
What tech does it got going on? Progressive knife or... Hmm...
Should Eva's have any crazy "Special Abilities" like the Jaegers have? Or should they mostly be based around the equipment they use?
With the philippines being an island nation with lots of mountains and such, Maybe Unit 009 has an updated Positron Sniper Rifle.

>>31771458
>Should Eva's have any crazy "Special Abilities" like the Jaegers have? Or should they mostly be based around the equipment they use?

EVAs were made to have crazy special abilities. Just look at what Unit 01 can do when it gets enraged.

>>31771379
Thats the thing. Jaegers in pacific rim are built around having Diverse crazy abilities, while evas as seen in the series are not too different from one another. Unit 0 had one eye. Unit 1 has two and is purple with teeth, Unit 2 has 4 eyes for some reason and is big red and supposedly the Final Version from which all others will follow.

Nerv and the Evas seem pretty cookie cutter.

>>31771392
EVA 014. Created in Europe, Sold to the Russians, then Sent to Hong Kong on a Lend Lease Program. Suffered serious damage in Russia, and due to a lack of EVA Materials, replaced its Right Arm with a Mark 4 Jaegar Arm.

Seen as a Pariah by the rest of the EVA program.

>>31771392

Shrike Victor was known for it's two main weapons systems: The Shrike Talons, which were electomagentic harpoons designed to stab into Kaiju and reel them into the reach of the Jaeger, and the 'Ripper Blades' motorized blades designed to rip a Kaiju open from the inside out to minimise Kaiju Blue spill.

>>31771513

So a German/Russian/Chinese EVA?

I like it.

>>31771511
But these EVAs are based on Kaiju remains are they not? So shouldn't we bee seeing stuff like Otachi and Leatherback in EVA armor?

>>31771513
EVA 014 Codename Pariah Typically uses a Mag-Rail Rifle, while its right arm has a built in Chain Bayonet.

Red and Yellow Checker Paint Job.

>>31771513
can his nickname be the Won Armed Wonder (used derisively by EVA pilots but enderingly by jeager pilots)

>>31771442
I kind of like this angle. It might mean Nerv might be trying out ways to sabotage Jaeger Pilot relationships to discredit Jaeger program. Michelle might be an excellent pilot most of the time until she and Trey are deployed along side Santiago in 15. At which point the rabbit starts getting chased perhaps and Santiago risks going beserk.

>>31771602
The EVAs are cloned from an ancient Kaiju that was from the Precursor's first attempt at colonizing Earth.

>>31771602
It's all based on the ancient Kaiju found in Antartica, as well as Lilith (which is a captured kaiju prototype of somekind, apparently).

So the Kaiju that the Eva are based on are very thin humanoids with a mouth full of razor sharp teeth.

Okay, so concerning EVAs in this setting:
-Are they Kaiju-derived?
-Are AT fields still a thing?
-Are they still limited to 5 minutes of runtime while not on external power?
-Does the public (or anyone at all outside of NERV and their backers) *know* that the EVAs are biological?

>>31771691
Yes, yes, yes, no.

The third factor might be something that is solved during the course of the campaign. Have to capture an S2 engine from within the Breach(?).

>>31771623
Sure, Pariah might just be a official designation

Nicknames can be separate.

>>31771574
I try. I miss Monty though.

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>>31771651
True but still the idea of an EVA version of this would be pretty awesome

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>>31771717
Newt could clone a little Kaiju and call it Monty.

>>31771602
But that might be an idea.
>Eva Unit 13
>Based off of recently sampled Otachi Sample
>Basically has the wings that the MP Evas do.
>Has an override mode that allows Seele to take control.

>>31771623

"Hold Position!"
Shrike Victor halted in the shallows of Hong Kong Bay. They knew a Kaiju was coming, but iut had slipped contact ten minutes ago, and for all they knew it could be right on top of them.
"Look!" Pilot Rose Maddigan gestured to the distant shoreline, where a figure had emerged."
"So it seems NERV have decided to join the party." her co-pilot and long-time lover, Jacob Heke commented. "The One Armed Wonder deigns to give us an audience. Well, we'll show NERV how to kill a Kaiju, maybe they can learn a thing or two from us."
Before he could comment further, the sea heaved as a monstrous form emerged before them..
"Ready the Shrike Talons," Heke commanded. "It's time we gave NERV an example of why the world doesn't need their abominations to defend us."

>Any good?

>>31771691
Yes
Yes, but very nerfed. Sufficiently strong conventional weapons can break through them.
Yes
No

>>31771691
>yes
>kinda (much weaker)
>yes but that's to keep them near the shore
>yes

>>31771717
He's still around, but he's gone Godzilla tier to fit into the tone of the setting

>>31771741
you would think the jeager pilots would see a EVA using jeager gear as an admittance that jeagers are better.

also i used "Won" for a reason, as in "hey we won with his help"

>>31771691
Rangers and PPDC personnel in general would probably know they weren't full robots, since the rangers would see them getting beat up in the field on occasion.

>>31771754
I know its for the best. but still. He will be missed.
>>31771736
HE BETTER BE FUCKING ADORABLE, WITH RAZOR SHARP TEETH, A HUNGER FOR KNOWLEDGE, AND AN UNHEALTHY LOVE FOR CATS!!!

>>31771741
Good. OAW Should be A Mid-Close Range Fighter. And don't be afraid to CQB. CHAINS FOR DAYS!!!

>>31771731
>tfw no one acknowledges best Kaiju

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And speaking of Newt, who knows what kind of crazy shit he'll try to do when he gets access to the Evas.

Imagine him trying to drift with Unit 01. Or Unit 00.

>>31771841
seariouly guys it's WON Armed Wonder not ONE Armed Wonder. Won sounds cooler and it spells WAW

>>31771442
I don't know why but I read that as Emerald Spark, which is pretty awesome but Shark is cool too.

Whiskey Churchill

Great Britain based Jaeger, the first to be made after the first Eva went berserk mod.
To mock the Eva pilots while they were down this one was made with a more animist head piece having large jaw area with jutting scrap metal to imitate fangs.
Claws instead of normal hands.
On the front are large blood splatter like splotches reminiscent of those left after the berserk angle fight on the Eva.
When entering battle the two pilots are know to blare a loud unnatural roaring noise out of the cockpit.
Its very existence is both a swore spot and controversy in Nerv and PPDC

>>31771289
Unit 012, named König by its pilot. Produced in Germany, currently stationed at the Panama Canal NERV base, and piloted by Gretchen Hofmeister. Unit 012 is specialized for ranged combat, featuring six eyes and often sporting a mounted railgun, which is Gretchen's preferred weapon. Of course, Gretchen is one of the so-called "Neo Spartans" and has spent almost half of her life being trained to pilot the Eva. As such, she is proficient with both ranged and melee weapons, and is willing and able to engage a Kaiju in close quarters.
Gretchen Hofmeister and Unit 012 have two solo kills and five group kills.

Gretchen herself is fairly low-key, as Eva pilots go. She's just as damaged as most of them, but it mostly manifests in the forms of internalized anxiety and paranoia, rather than more outwardly visible symptoms. She spends her time training in the simulator or at the firing range, reading, playing chess (online or in person), and perfecting her methods of brewing alcohol in her closet with household materials. She's also pretty good at drawing, and can often be found on the roof, sketching the city after the latest Kaiju attack.

>>31771937
I actually pulled Shark out of my ass, Spark is much better.

considering that I don't really like NGE at all but I adore Pacific Rim, could I get in on this or would I be bugging people? If it's the later I completely understand, I don't want to rain on people's parade.

>>31772129
Contribute to the PPDC, we don't mind.

Just remember that NERV is here, and they be Dicks.

And anyone got a list of all these EVA/Jaegers we are making.

>>31772129
I'm not a huge fan of EVA either, though I like the design of some of their shit the show itself I can't stand.

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>>31772129
The only thing anybody likes about Eva are the girls.

we already have PacRim crossing over with NGE, but as a side note how would PacRim and XCOM work out? change all the ET's too being groundtroops from the breach or something? Just a thought I had, considering the PPDC and XCOM run kind of similiar and feel a lot alike in tone.

>>31772012
Emerald Spark is often the most ostentatious and most obnoxious looking Jaeger due to its over powering green paint job and a large crude drawing of an EVA Unit with crossed out eyes. Both Michelle and Trey proudly admit to personally painting the mural and often show contempt for EVA Units and NERV. It is highly theorized that the "dead" EVA is Unit 15, Michelle has yet to comment.

>>31772252
Pacific Rim is basically XCOM: Apocalypse with no UFOs anyway.

>>31772281
Weapon Systems?

>>31769641
so he's good guy godzilla. I'm ok with this, as long as he can't actually, you know, talk. That would be weird.

>>31772252
Well based on the gameplay ideas being thrown around games of this are probably going to play out a lot like XCOM

>>31772346
He can Hack the Interwebz. If He really wants i'm guessing he could Speak-and-Spell.

>>31772344
I'm not good at that part. I failed you.

>>31772403
Electro-Magnetic Detection System, Chain Blades? Maybe Some Harpoon Weapon...not to copy Shrike at all.

>>31772344
Chest based Plasma cannon? Or ball lightning generators? To really get that "Spark" part of the name in there?

>>31772429
>>31772507
A mix of these I think.

And do we have a Mark?

>>31772175
>>31772194
Cool. Also, I've never actually been in threads like these; are these characters we're playing or collectively writing or what? I'm fine with whatever, I just want to know so I can contribute properly.

>>31772571
You can write if you want, You can Fluff or Crunch, for we could use both.

>>31772571
I think our main focuses should be lore, possible campaign scenarios, and gameplay mechanics

>>31772571
And they are NPC's that can be PC's if someone plays this.

Except Monty. HE'S MINE DAMNIT

Question. If this is going to be a system/setting. How does playing a Jaeger pilot work? is it Two Players controlling one Robot? Or One player with two characters?

>>31772749
If its two players controlling each ranger team, the number of players required is going to go through the roof fast

>>31772749
The other ranger would usually be an NPC.

>>31772613
Okay then. Lets fluff Seele out a bit more. Their goal is still Human instrumentality, and they got a little more in common with the kaiju cult, as they are aware of the Kaiju Hive mind. How will instrumentality work in this shared universe? Cause the kaiju goal is just to eradicate human life.

Would Seele do some kind of indoctrination plot? Create weird "Kaiju Brain Spores" and start pumping them into air and water supplies the world over? People start getting headaches and hearing other peoples thoughts or alien voices?

Or does kaiju blue reduce people to tang as well as being uber poisonous?

>>31773024
I'd say Human Instrumentality would be replicating the Precursor Hivemind. But they evolved theirs naturally, so they can still exist as individual beings while being connected to it. When Seele tries to force humanity into a similar hivemind, it results in widespread tanging

>>31773108
Or maybe instead of tanging everyone gets brain hemmoraging similar to the solo Drift tests. Maybe? Just an idea.

Also just an idea, how would seele try to recreate this? A Drift field generator? artificial Kaiju built to plug people together?

>>31772537
I made her a M. 4 in the OP

>>31773190
A Mind Hydra...like that thing from 40K?

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>>31773190
>Or maybe instead of tanging everyone gets brain hemmoraging similar to the solo Drift tests. Maybe? Just an idea.
Well if you want to be more "realistic", sure. I think tanging is more fun though, and it makes it seem all the more alien.
>Also just an idea, how would seele try to recreate this? A Drift field generator? artificial Kaiju built to plug people together?
Some kind of wireless sync technology derived from the EVA program? I don't know, we can be like AdEVA and come up with a number of possible end game scenarios with a few variations on some.

>>31773315
Its a thing from 40K? What thing?
And yes I guess. If ou can get it to the adequate Freud levels of eva and HUGE levels of Pacific rim.

>>31773381
Yeah that was another thing i wanted to discuss. Since this is EVA we're dealing with, where anything that can go wrong probably won't because something else has gone much worse. What would a Post Apocalyptic "After the Bad End" Timeline be like? Like say... Third Impact happens, or Kaiju overrun the wall and humanity. Mainland cities are getting wrecked and the breach is still open, and even if it was closed now there'd still be a BUNCH of kaiju on our side of it that are roaming about causing chaos. What would it be like then?

>>31773455
Desert tribes that try to evade the gaze of massive kaiju? Lone and last resort Jaegers protecting heavilly defended cities? Flying Eva Powered Battleships?

>>31773455
Im guessing shitty. Supposedly our "Last Line" of Defense, the EVA's and Jaegers of Panama would be gone, and the Wall broken, I don't give us much of a chance.

Unless we go full Exodus, and somehow start throwing ourselves at the stars.

Our maybe that Jaeger Circus I wrote earlier can come into play here, at this point and time.Except it would need to be renamed.

The Last Circus seems more appropriate. Made up of both Jaeger and EVA's fighting for a doomed world, knowing that they are going to die, one by one.

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>>31773455
Well in a BAD END scenario where Kaiju start running rampant, it would be long before Humanity just gets overwhelmed. The Breach was expanding to allow more and larger Kaiju through each time. Once you get to the double and triple events it starts escalating exponentially from there. You would have dozens of huge Kaiju coming though at once only days apart.

>>31773516
Guessing those Cities wold be more like Bunkers at that point. And Flying Cities? Maybe, I guess they would be safe for a time, till Kaiju start mass-producing flyers

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>>31773516
>>31773564
As shitty as it was Rebuild 3 gives a pretty great visual of this scenario
>World fucked up beyond repair
>Cities all leveled
>Majority of humanity dead
>Last remnants of the good guys on the run, always on the move

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>>31772613
>>31772621
>>31772681

if that's the case, have two Jaegers. May be a bit silly, but we have a weird internet kaiju so whatever.

Santo Machismo: A Mark III piloted by an actual Lucha tag-team; they joined when Machismo was still being made and had a small say in it's design. It's head has a lucha motif (either in paintjob or actual build is up to others), it's mask color bright white like the lucha they named it after, El Santo. A symbol of national pride for Mexico, Santo Machismo is fairly nimble for a Mark III and is known for throwing/tossing kaiju about when it has the room to do so.

Buster Astro: Buster Astro was one of the first Mark IV's and was promising due to it's balance of speed and power, showing the usefulness of the Mark IV line. It's pilots are a 30's pushing 40's older pilot of previous jaegers and the child of his last partner; despite these circumstances, their stereotypical roles are somewhat reversed. The older pilot is somewhat bombastic and prone to speeches about humanity coming together and the like to the press, while the younger pilot is somewhat war weary due to having most of his life involved with the Kaiju War. (pilots can be changed for this; I was trying to go for a Tiger and Bunny kind of dynamic though I think I might change them to race car drivers or something to make them more interesting). Weapon systems for Astro include a rail gun hidden in it's left arm and an optional Cherno-esque big FUCK OFF punch fist which can equipped to the exterior of the right arm at the Shatterdome, based on intel received from the breach

>>31773642
Creepy were humans turning into giant ass MP Evas or something? I never really got to see anything clearly. and there was so much Interesting if Incomprehensible destruction. Weird Hourglass stone thing. Inverted Pyramids. Etct.

>>31773642
Yeah same here really. I figure with JaEVA we could at least refluff or rejigger the "after the end" setting rebuild provided into a better thing over all. Maybe throw in some hope or something. Maybe a more active wasteland?

>>31773762
I thought we were going with height of the war? After the end sounds like it's too bleak and dismal for any kind of hope left, on both sides. PacRim wise that means that there aren't any Jaegers left functioning if the blow up the breach plan failed.

>>31773737
I honestly have no idea. The third impact was aborted right at it started, but it still warped reality and killed a ton of people and torn apart the landscape. Maybe they were in the middle of tanging but reformed into those once it was aborted.

>>31773723
Haya, Lucha Jaegar is a cool Idea.

And nice to bring Astro onto this, though it does bring up the question on what would have happened to all the Named Protags if the Breach Assualt Failed...or Succeeded to some.

>>31773818
Height of the war is a possible option, but we are talking end game here. I'm not sure developing a post-end game is worth it though. The end scenarios should be pretty definitive

>>31773855
Astro was one I made up before the movie came out, I just wanted to shoehorn him in somehow; feel free to get rid of him if no one likes the idea. I am quite proud of Lucha Jaeger though.

>>31773818
Read >>31766883
Then this >>31773564

It could explain why there would be Jaegars in a Bad Ending scenario.

>>31773818
We have a timeline set up for a whole slew of campeign choices.
>Height of the War: Where Pilots are awesome heroes taking out monsters left and right. Kaiju are only JUST starting to edge out pilots and raking up kills themselvs.
>End of war: Big ending scenario and holding out against insurmountable odds. basically Pacific Rim's plot. Maybe big push to close the breach(es).

and the now proposed
>After the End: Breach wasn't closed in time now kaiju came out enmasse or an instrumentality event came out. Survival mode begins.

Again just an idea and I agree. it is utterly nutterly bleak. I was figuring something closer thematically to Eva was in order. And might not be worth it.. I mean... just look at Eva 3.33.

>>31773931
We could then also make another possible ending.

The "Breach Was Sealed" Ending but now everyone has giant mechs.

And the "Breach was Sealed" But they made new Breaches.

>>31773905
It doesn't make a lick of sense though. The maintenance required and the fact that Jaegers would be chewed up left an right, ESPECIALLY if they were scrap heaps maintained on the run.

>>31773931
The "well everything is fucked and there's nothing we can do" attitdude and 2deep4u nature of NGE are generally my main complaints with the series, so yeah, I guess I'm just not keen on incorporating that part of it at least. I'm one dude though, if others like it throw it in I suppose.

>>31773978
>we sealed one breach but opened up two more

Sounds like Evangelion.

>>31773899
Eh, its a Jaegar, Jaegers are awesome, and I haven't a doubt that it will be included in the fluff...somewhere.

>>31773993
I didn't say that is would be fun, and every Ranger that got into those things knew they were walking coffins. Either the fact that they were scrap walking, which meant they were basically Mark 1's but with even less protection from radiation, or the fact that a LVL 5 will probably kill them 30 seconds into an engagement. They know this. And the fight anyway. The Apocalypse is Here, Might as well Die knowing you Died well, instead of cowering in some hole in the ground.

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So apparently Unit 00 was send to steal Lilith from the Precurors through the Atlantic Breach.

Anyone want to fill in the details of that epic heist?

>>31773993
>"well everything is fucked and there's nothing we can do" attitdude and 2deep4u nature of NGE are generally my main complaints with the series
They're my complaints too. I mean its part of what made evangelion Evangelion, regardless. I was just holding out vain hope that we could make a "Dire Dangerous New World" setting work with the whole "Humanity Fuck Yeah" approach Pacific Rim brings to the table.

Short story shorter; It was just an idea. Figure I'd mention the whole post apocalypse thing since I kinda dug the way the ruined earth was presented in 3.0 even if the story was tripe and NO one was acting reasonable (which again is par for the course with evangelion).

>>31774252
I was thinking Lilith would be an actual Precursor, which Seele would use to try and replicate the precursor hivemind for the purposes of Human Instrumentality

>>31774252
Well considering it would have to be an Eva that goes through the breach since it has the Kaiju DNA key... Hm...

Wait does this mean humanity knows how to get into the breach WAY earlier?

>>31774256
3.0 was especially painful since the other two Rebuild movies fixed so much that was wrong with the series. Better pacing, better characterization, less doom and gloom

THEN FUCK YOU HERE IS 3.0

>>31774305
I guess it implies it. Maybe after the Lilith incident, the precursors stepped up security measures, which fucked up later efforts to closed the Breaches.

Or that could have been precisely SEELE's plan.

>>31774252
It was the sealed Antarctic breach, the one Seele discovers.
>>31774305
Nope, Seele keeps it secret. Hardly anyone in NERV even knows the true nature of the EVAs, even those that do don't have the whole picture.

>>31774252
>Seele/Nerves begins a reactivation experiment at the South Pole.
>Pump enough Tachyons or Quantum Particals or AT Field science mumbo jumbo to get the Ancient Breach to murmer to life.
>Sucess.
>Send Prototype Eva down into breach with high pressure equipment.
>Its essentially a Boiling Lake in the Antarctic.
>High Pressure Jaeger-esque exoskeleton.
>It passes through to everyone's surprise.
>No communication for minutes on end.
>Activity starts to mount. LOTS of signtatures coming through.
>Abort! Abort!
>Lots of fiddling later and panicked screams and maybe an entire Glacial Mountain collapsing upon it later. Breach lake is full of kaiju blue and the floating corpse of Unit Zero or something.
>A torn off Precursor colony building.
>Survivor corpse(s) inside or something?
>Alive or dead...
>Material for Lilith.

>>31774480
So essentially the polar melting/second impact occurs with the retrieval of lilith rather than the awakening of adam?

So far we have five Jaegers.

>>31771392 Shrike Victor
>>31771442 Emerald Spark
>>31771952 Whiskey Churchill
>>31773723 Santo Machismo and Buster Astro
And three EVA
>>31771968 Unit 012
>>31771737 Unit 013
>>31771513 Unit 014

We need more EVA with more fucked up teen pilots.

>>31774480
This sounds pretty good
>Seele procures Unit-00 for "Performance Trials"
>Returned to NERV in horrible shape
>Asked to also store this totally not suspicious at all stasis pod at the bottom level of the Geofront
>Which is now sealed off to all personnel, thanks

>>31774516
Don't think we are going to have anything quite as destructive as the second impact. Otherwise there wouldn't be enough industry to develop Jaegers

>>31774650
We also have "Delta Dream" Mark 4 Jaeger which may or may not have been destroyed after it took out a NERV R&D Base.

>>31774669

Well, the 'impact' isn't globe changing here. The amount of ice melted sounds like that shed from a glacier in a year, at most raising the sea level a foot or so, and even then temporarily.

But I bet the impact alerted the Kaiju creators and set them straight for Earth.

>>31774704
Right, We could work on Chinese EVA/Jaeger Hybrids. They might turn out interesting.

Like a trainwreck sort of interesting

>>31774717

Seele being the cause of K-Day?

I can get behind that.

>>31774717
Yeah maybe its this secret event that spooks them into opening the extra breach in the atlantic.
>Oh no those pink apes figured out how to open our space hole.
>Better clamp down and move in right away.

>>31774717
In the timeline this snatch and grab takes place after K-Day, probably helping disguise/distract the minor side effects of the ice melting.

>>31774754
Oh, even better. Without Seele interfering there would only be the Pacific Breach.

>>31774789
>Without Seele interfering there would only be the Pacific Breach.

I think this is a pretty key point. SEELE is making things worse and during the course of the game players slowly realize it.

>>31774751
It would explain why the Precursors suddenly remember Earth existing after giving up on it for millions of years

>>31774808
Hivemind Perhaps. Seele drags "Lilith" onto earth. and Lilith lets them know "Hey guys this place is good to go."
The rest goes. "We were thinking of waiting a couple extra hundred years or so but okay! Lets get this party started."

>>31774808
The "humans made the oceans poisonous" is a stupid excuse. It was fine for Godzilla vs. Hedorah, but the ocean really isn't so polluted it's like another ecosystem.

A better backstory is the Precusor colonization got fucked over by the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, so they had to pack up and go home. Then Unit 00 pops in and the Precursors are all like "Wait, the Earth isn't uninhabitable? Oh, well, that's great! We can start the colonization up again!"

>>31774801
>>31774808

Why not combine both? Seele reminded the Precursors about Earth by attempting to open the Antarctic breach,and then Seele by diving into the Pacific Breach to snatch a Precursor precipitate the opening of the Atlantic Breach.

>>31774789
I dunno I'd like to think slightly before. Or hell maybe keeping that part of the timeline vague or unknown just to fuck with conspiracies.

>>31774845

I like this. SEELE really fuck with humanity here.

>>31774833
Sounds perfect. I'll move Unit-00 coming online and the Lilith snatch and grab to 2012, K-Day being a direct result of Seele's interdimentional snooping. Totally their plan all along, probably.

>>31774872

When does the Atlantic Breach open?It happens after Seele's second dive into the Breach.

>>31774896
I'd say Kaiju #2 would open up the Atlantic Breach, and attack Ireland or something

>>31774896
I dunno. Maybe atlantic breach happens after the first Jaegers/Evas come online in the pacific and start kicking ass. Figuring if they open up another on the other side of the world they can spread human resources thin (Which might totally be the case).

>>31774924

Wouldn't they attack a major port city, the way Trespasser attacked San Francisco?

The EVA pilots have s slogan they use when talking about the Jaegers: 'Flesh over Steel'.

It is unknown what they mean when they refer to this.

>>31774948
I Think Trespasser hit San Fran mostly by Chance. Would be weird if they already knew where to hit before they even scouted the place.

Maybe they should hit Greenland or Iceland, the attack isn't reported for days due to the remote areas it hits, then it hits a major city.

>>31774947
I think both should open up in the beginning, so you have the European countries starting mech programs from the start

>>31774948
What would a good first Atlantic target be then?

>>31775026

Some of the European countries were making EVA?Jaegers for the Pacific, and when the Atlantic breach opens they retask their production to defending the Atlantic.

>>31774948
Well there are major port cities in Germany and the Netherlands if we must go with an Atlantic Rift. Plus there's New York but that's sorta played out.
>Atlantic Rift Opens.
>New Yorkers, Aw Crap. We Doin' the Cloverfield thing or...
>Kaiju go for somewhere else.
> Phew.

>>31775043
See the map in the OP
Germany backs the EVA program, while the UK and France go Jaeger

>>31775026
Hamburg Germany perhaps? the Neatherlands?
That way we get a segway into Unit 02 development and hell, a Viking Jaeger.

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This picture sums up everything.

>>31775044
>>Atlantic Rift Opens.
>>New Yorkers, Aw Crap. We Doin' the Cloverfield thing or...
>>Kaiju go for somewhere else.
>> Phew.

This so needs to happen.

>>31775064

Germany makes Jaeger parts and technicians, but they only run and operate EVA units.

>>31775068
Read
>>31768281
Probably Did for a time. Before his wife got killed. I'm Thinking it was a Mark 2 named Highborn Huscarl before it and the Base it was stationed at got wrecked.

If there are two breaches something came to mind.
If one is able be closed by the pilots or something... The second one would be much Harder, since well... The precursers/Kaiju might be way more prepared that time around.

>>31775188
Before He and his Son went "Delta Dream" Team

>>31775191
I figure closing one of the Breaches would finish both off, as it looks like their Kaiju production plant is pretty centralized. The two breaches probably originate from the same place.

Also just keeps things less redundant, having more than one "Close the Breach" operations would be tedious, even if the second is harder

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>>31767620
>"It's expensive, but the performance justifies the cost. Switching from metal to CNT composite let us cut the weight down down to only 430 tons without any loss of strength. Using dry adhesive 'Gecko Skin' on the feet gives equal or greater levels of traction to a heavier Jaeger when it's in contact with the ground. What this all means is that Werewolf is much faster than earlier models."
>"How fast are we talking here"
>cut to video footage of the Mk. 9 Jaeger running across the surface of the ocean
>"Fast enough"

>>31775018
Long journey, average town looks like this and it would destroy a town at most before it gets discovered.

Lots of hiding places among and under the glaciers.

Actually sneaking in one by one and hiding under the arctic could be an interesting approach. Imagine a protracted arctic campaign to remove kaiju. It would be a logistic nightmare to fight a campaign in the arctic against several kaiju hiding there.

>>31775247
Jaegers being heavy is ideal, half of their purpose is to stop Kaiju in their tracks through sheer bulk.

>>31775278

Whereas EVAs are fast and nimble.

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>>31775268
Forgot pic. Town is called Jakobshavn or Ilulissat in the local tongue.

>>31775299
Which is why they result in more collateral damage, they aren't designed around stopping the Kaiju from coming ashore

>>31775321
>>31775299
>>31775278
Wouldn't it be ideal to pair them up? Jaeger to hold the Kaiju down while the EVA punches it?

>>31775375
It would be ideal, but NERV and PPDC hate each other after Jet Alone.

>>31775375
Which is why we have NERV and the PPDC hating each other

>>31775391
>>31775388
goddomot homonoto

>>31775278
Hence the gecko feet. Rather than make it heavier, they just glue it to the ground.

>>31775461
But a heavier Jaegar means more force in its punch.