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The ground trembles beneath the stampede. Your drones run in all directions to avoid the oncoming wall of creatures as they mow a path through the jungle. The humans still don’t suspect any danger, and by the time they notice the incoming horde it will likely be too late.
The stampede passes, and your drones emerge from the debris of scattered and torn vegetation and survey the damage. Several holes have been bored into the thick layer of overgrowth and a path of mushroom trees have been overturned and crushed.

You are the Hive Queen, and at the moment the fate of the humans rests with you. A response from the incoming human rescue fleet was received earlier in the day, but the probe sending the signal was destroyed by something in the system. With the planet’s constant overcast you have no way of observing what goes on above you without placing a drone in orbit yourself, so for now you can only listen to the radiation with a single antenna mounted on the peak of the small mountain which you have made your home. The humans of the Union have set up a small camp near the edge of the jungle, and it seems the electrical current of their defensive perimeter has driven a heard of local creatures into a frenzy. If you do nothing you doubt they will be alive by the time the rescue fleet arrives.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest

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>>32206764
>Current armory
3 Thorn Launchers
2 Sting Casters

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 207
Metals: 35

>Hive population and upkeep cost
Queen – 5
Worker (17) – 34
Warrior (5) – 20
Thinker (6) – 18
Speaker – 3
Digger (3) – 12
Nutrient costs: 92

>Income
Nutrients: 50
Net: -42

Hive Structure
>Reservoir
>General storage
>Food storage
>Laboratory
>Infrastructure

Hive construction underway
>Algae farm

>Research underway
Unity Tech Interfacing 3/5
Human Tech Interfacing 1/5
Flyer dissection 2/5

Available research options
>Lightning gun
Very slow, potential of failure and destruction of sample device
>Human environment suit
Very Slow, a bulky looking, yet light weight suit composed of tightly woven fabric and small metallic plating covering the chest and forearms. The suit seems to react to injury to the user, and contains a number of devices the humans use to make up for their frail physical structure and sensitive biology. Study of this technology could offer insight into any number of research fields.
>Human technology interfacing
You have determined that the small device you retrieved from the human camp is some kind of artificial data storage. Physically it is worthless, but if you were to spend the time to develop a way to interface your thinkers with it the data within may prove well worth the effort.
>Unity Drone salvage
The physical components of the drone are quite interesting. Opening it up and taking a closer look would give you a much better idea of how the device works (grants small bonus against Unity drones, and unlocks weapon, armor, and propulsion research options)
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>>32206764
>>32206776

Yay!

Tell the humans they are brave to lure so much food towards them at once.
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>>32206935
hah, seconded
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I want to make a suggestion for a list of possible developments for our hive:

Harvester Sacks - A drone climbs in and is slowly digested, netting back a large lump sum of nutrients, and thus making recycling drones and dead workers much more efficient by gaining back more of the resources used to create them.

Leaches - Medical units that latch on to expensive and irreplaceable units. Leaches draw out impurities, poisons, and even hunt parasites with their 'tongues'. They close up when full, and become, essentially, bio-waste trash bags, which are difficult to puncture, and can be thrown away for safety.

General - A warrior implanted with the genetic material of an advanced thinker, giving it the ability to lead long distance scouting and hunting parties.

Electromagnetic Drone - Through a clever use of bio-electricity, this drone is able to detect metal minerals in rock and soil, letting you know where to dig for buried resources. Upon physical contact with a vein, they can tell how large it is, and in what directions it spreads, increasing mining efficiency.
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>>32206935
Ha.

But nah let's just save Lee at the last second. We can carve out a cave somewhere a bit distant from our hive to keep him safe and fed until rescue.
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>>32206976

Metal Supports/Shielding - By using an almost negligible amount of metal, you can line specific parts of your warriors claws with metal to act as supports against stress. These metal strips and linings aren't to make the warrior more deadly, or to give them sharper claws, but to prevent exoskeletal cracking should they have to block an attack with their claws, or strike an opponent with a shell harder then theirs.

Medic Drone - The medic drone contains internal pouches of fluids of varying viscosity that can be smeared through an aperture in it's claws, or injected through a proboscis. These pastes and liquids serve as anesthetics, antimicrobial medicine, hemostatic gauze paste, silk for tourniquets, and hardening cast pastes. It also has detachable spines that can be used as splints. The Medic Drones claws have been retrofitted for injecting and smearing paste rather than the scything and clubbing that it's contemporaries claws are designed to do. This drone is not without defenses though, as an overdose of anesthetics in an opponent would be lethal, and the pastes in it's sacs would harden and lock a predators jaws shut.
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>>32206976
Anon, we have to find something existing already in nature to research and/or mimic it.

>sticking Thinkers into ordinary drones.
Man why. Why why why. Do you even specialization?

Why put Thinker brains on the frontlines where they can die when they can add their brains to the warriors from a safe distance as a separate drone? Stupid.
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>>32206984

I'm down for waiting until it is inevitable that most of the camp will be thrashed so we can loot it. but we're not going to let them all get killed.
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>>32206776
At the human camp your speaker drone goes largely unnoticed. The humans appear to acclimate to new things quite quickly. You see Commander Grey for a moment discussing something with Lee, his arm draped across Lee's shoulders. Lee looks slightly uncomfortable, although his leg is still wounded, so you have a hard time determining a baseline.

>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede
>Say nothing
>Attempt to power down the fence yourself
>Speak with Grey or Lee (write in)
>Other
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>>32207017
Because brains are stationary, and this will extend their range.
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>>32206976
Please no. Let's keep the Specialization debates until after PLOT happens.

I missed the chance last week to suggest maxing out that Olfactory antennae adaptation for some worker models, so at least have the same patience I have.
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>>32207056

>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede
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>>32207056
>>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede
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>>32207056
>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede
and
>www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/460d99f6a63c4
Could we this?
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>>32207056
>Say nothing
Please.

At least wait a little bit until it's closer.
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>>32207068
>Do not suggest things! I didn't, so you shouldn't either!

NO.

Also: we should be careful how we tell the bipeds about the stampede. We shouldn't give away just how many powers we have.
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>>32207064
Do you have any idea how vast telepathy range is already? Not to mention ignoring the fact that we can relocate the Thinkers as we please to far off bases. Or set up telepathy relays for us all.

We do not need Overlords.
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>>32206976

-The electro magnetic drone is good, though the planet's (apparently very strong) electromag field would present difficulties in development.
-The Leaches are unnecessary, our biologies have already adapted to the environmental hazards here.
-Harvester sacks aren't necessary because we don't recycle drones that much
-Generals can be done better by just building a psionic relay

>>32207006
-Metal supports are...redundant.

-Medic drone is good, but you're not thinking alien enough with it. Give it flash-cloning/building chambers so it can eat the damaged limbs (or battlefield charnel) off of our bugs and then clone a new one to graft on.
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>>32206976
>Harvester Sacks
we're already pretty efficient without those, but why not?

>Leeches
Launch them at foes as bioweapons

>General
nah

>EMD
I don't think that's how bio-electricity works. You want prospector drones, don't fluff it that way.

>>32207006
>Metal Integration
we already do that, although further research to increase efficiency might be possible.

>Medic Drone
not as useful, since drones and broken chitin are so easily consumed and replaced. Maybe a drone that can release anaesthetics, stimulants, and antimicrobial paste?

>>32207064
not necessarily. Like with that time I argued for putting range extenders on Furnace Drones, the sheer range is simply so large, there's no need to add the extenders onto other units.

>>32207056
>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede
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>>32207150
I'm saying don't slow down the goddamn thread with that when we have PLOT.

I want the same thing you do but use some sense.
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>>32207056

Inform grey of the approaching stampede.
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>>32207056
>Speak with Lee
Humans should consume the electric worms, they're an efficient source of nutrients.
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>>32207177
>>32207150

Really now man, start up a new thread "Hive Queen Quest Discussion" and post them there. It's good to come up with ideas, but it does really bog us down.
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>>32207092
>>32207095
>>32207108
Why should we though?
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>>32207229
Why not?
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>>32207229
so that we don't get caught up in the stampede?

although the stampede itself and the trampling of mushroom forest might be a boon...
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>>32207022
you're voting for not telling them then right?
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>>32207160
>-The electro magnetic drone is good, though the planet's (apparently very strong) electromag field would present difficulties in development.

What difficulties? Says who?


>-The Leaches are unnecessary, our biologies have already adapted to the environmental hazards here.

Except for the cordicepts fungus that has already claimed one worker...


>-Harvester sacks aren't necessary because we don't recycle drones that much

Um... Care to count how many we already have? Think again.

>-Generals can be done better by just building a psionic relay

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS.
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>>32207056
>Inform Grey of the stampede
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>>32207264
We are not in danger of the stampede. at all.

terrible reason. they're ignoring us completely.

>>32207257
It is to our benefit that there be a bunch of unused human technology we can loot.
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>>32207169
>>Leeches
>Launch them at foes as bioweapons

YES.
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>>32207273
Why not just move a thinker so its in range.
>>32207225
I don't see that going down well with the anti quest portion of /tg/.
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>>32207273

Alright, if you're going to be like that then I'll cease to entertain you in polite conversation.
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>>32207273
Oh my god shut up with your stupid snowflake ideas already.

First, Thinker brains is not the same as a psionic relay.

And second, you don't put your psionic relay units into the same body as battle units.
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>>32207297
Not really. The bugs will probably trample all the equipment to bits.
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>>32207297
>It is to our benefit that there be a bunch of unused human technology we can loot.
Most of which will probably get crushed by the beasties.
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>>32207056
As you move to speak with the humans you can't help but look at their camp. Even in a trampled state, much of it may be of some use. You weigh the risks...
>Wait to tell them until they are almost here
>Tell them now
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>>32207347
>>32207357
Okay, there is that not insignificant risk.

Man I really wish Unity had left some human corpses behind instead of vaporizing. All we have is bones, nothing interesting to dissect.
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>>32207369
>>Tell them now
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>>32207369
Tell them now
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>>32207056
>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede

Preferably in a sorta joking manner like >>32206935
suggests.
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>>32207369
Oh so trampling won't be that disastrous! good.
>Wait to tell them until they are almost here
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>>32207369
It will take them a while to believe us so
>Tell them now
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>>32207056
>>32207369

>Tell them now
>Speak with Grey or Lee

>Lee or Grey
"Your kin is very brave to bring so many food to yourselves at once. Perhaps you will share the secret of this fence with us?"
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>>32207369
I want to maintain them as allies, but I REALLY want human anatomy research...

>Wait to tell them until they are almost here
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>>32207369
>Tell them now

I honestly would prefer these guys in our debt.
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>>32207225
I try to stay after the session is over until the thread 404s for meta discussion, questions and the like.
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>>32207369
>>Tell them now
Dont want their sensitive (and probably cool) shit to get stomped.
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>>32207169
>not as useful, since drones and broken chitin are so easily consumed and replaced.

This has nothing to do with that. What happens if we send out five or more drones to kill something and bring it back, and all but one of them are too wounded to carry it? Consuming or recycling them won't be efficient.

>>32207225
>Really now man, start up a new thread "Hive Queen Quest Discussion" and post them there. It's good to come up with ideas, but it does really bog us down.

No, we already have a thread for discussing Hive Quest; THE HIVE QUEST THREAD. We need to think of technologies now, and come up with a plan of what we want in the future and start making them before it's too late. Our offspring take time to hatch, if we only make them when we need them we'll be too late to use them. That's like waiting until your house is on fire to go out and buy a fire extinguisher.
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>>32207369
>The hive, which is totally trustworthy, and which you are 99% sure secretly took out at least 2 Unity drones and is lying to your face a bout this, after which you immediately erected this electric fence which you never had around your camp before this, is now suggesting you have to turn off your electric fence.

I can't wait to roll for diplomacy.

Also I see Grey is trying to feed his suspicions into Lee, turn him against us right under our antennae! Ballsy.
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>>32207369
>Tell them now
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>>32207398
At worst, you could scrap it for metals, although you hope something would survive.
(I'll roll for damage)
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>>32207446
Actually we're suggesting they move AND turn off the electric fence. Since I doubt the bugs will just stop outright once the fence is off.
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>>32207177
>>32207443

We basically want to avoid what AI Quest has devolved into.

Catching up on this week's thread, there was literally zero plot progression because it was all discussion about possible upgrades and progressions.

We should try to keep this streamlined and focus on the plot when there's plot
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>>32207369
>Tell them now
Jesus guys, let's NOT be a dick to our (sort-of) friends.
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>>32207446
They had a camp with buildings before so they didn't need a fence anon. Really if they do think we took out the drones what do they think a fence is going to do to us?
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>>32207518
>Jesus guys, let's NOT be a dick to our (sort-of) friends.

>friends
That's stupid.

Not telling them has its advantages. "Being a dick" isn't really a relevant concern.
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>>32207443
>Consuming or recycling them won't be efficient.
Battle units don't need to return to base to replace their armor chitin, they just eat the broken pieces and grow new ones.

As for wounded limbs and such, I'm not sure if those regenerate, or if there's anything in particular a medic can do about that in the field.

There was the cloning thing here >>32207160, but otherwise medical pastes are all we've got.

Last post from me about this, though. This can wait until the thread ends.
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>>32207522

They set up the fence because they're in the jungle now (because they think that there's still a Unity drone wandering around). Before they were out on the plains, which had few/no predators aside from the Flying Wings of Death.
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>>32207369
>Tell them now
You decide it best to err on the side of caution. Your speaker walks up to the two humans.
"You are attracting danger."
Grey looks at you, startled for a moment.
"What? What do you mean?"
Hmm... how do you explain the situation to the Commander?
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>>32207584
>>32206935

I still like this
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>>32207559
That is also a better reason for the fence then thinking it would stop us.
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>>32207595

Me too.
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Wait... Why do we want them to turn off their fence?
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>>32207595
thirded
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>>32207584
Well, I was hoping we'd go for the 'Way to be ballsy' approach so ....

If that's off the table, then I guess we inform them of the large number of regular bugs throwing themselves onto the fence and the ground shaking first.
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>>32207584
Yes go with, >>32206935

Might add an addendum about how they plan to kill then store so much of it.
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>>32207584
Let's point out how the worms are being drawn to the fence.
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>>32207584
I support this >>32206935 with adding there is basically a stampede coming through here.
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>>32207649

The wildlife is attracted to electricity, so it's drawing a stampede because it's a sci-fi grade electric fence of death.
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>>32207649
it attracts the wildlife because they all sense/eat electricity.
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>>32207584
Your lure-fence has attracted too many prey. The hive is curious of the secret behind such a potent trap.
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>>32207663
>>32207691
>>32207661

Yeah, supplement it with these.
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>>32207704
>>32207665

This, mention the worms. Make them understand that these organisms do not work the same way the do. Electricity might not be the deterrent that they hope it is.
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>>32207746
Nah, don't bother with the details. Let them believe us or not.
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>>32207777
Yeah, fuck 'em and all, but, won't we need them to turn it off if we want our speaker to get out of dodge in time?
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>>32207746
>>32207777
We can point out their fence is luring worms which are luring bigger predators who are stampeding their way.
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>>32207777
>Grey won't believe us
>Lee will

>mutinous schism in the camp as we try and flee the stubborn camp with Lee and whoever he tries to convince with the word of the Cassandra bug at his side
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>>32207584
"You lure much, much food all at once! It would be far too much for the hive to hunt."
"I'm still not following. How are we attracting-"
The zap of the fence frying yet another creature makes Trevor jump slightly. He turns to the fence, and the pile of writhing worms and small creatures reaching up in an effort to grasp the wires.
"Oh shit."
"Your weapons must be quite powerful to deal with so many. There is a large herd heading this way."
The two look at each other briefly before Grey slaps Lee on the back. "Remember what I told you, and keep Junior here out of danger." He turns to the others "Incoming! Get to your stations, and shut down the damn fence!"
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>>32207777

I concur. If they don't trust us...eh.
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>>32207811
Our Speaker can be reborn.

We can get Lee to open a gate for us anyway.

Lee would never betray us.
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>>32207829
hahahah!, time to hunt!
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>>32207829
>. "Remember what I told you,
"What was he saying?"
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>>32207850
Actually how have our Speaker's legs healed so far with the human splints on them?
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>>32207876
>>32207829

We didn't hear.

Damn I'm wishing we sent those spy-flies along with the Speaker. Any chance we could hatch some, QM?
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>>32207829
"I suggest you leave this place before the herd arrives. The hive can provide short-term shelter."
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>>32207906
>We didn't hear.
That's.... the point anon.

That is why those four words were in quotation marks. So that the Speaker would ask Lee them.
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>>32207876

We can speculate that he wants to keep the Speaker safe from danger since its the only viable contact the humans have to a friendly radio-capable race
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>>32207876
>>32207906
>>32207829

What if they're actually talking about us in a wholly benevolent fashion?

Like "Isn't that guy fucking great? Got us out of a sticky situation, he's like a native guide! Let's be sure to keep him the fuck alive."
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>>32207906
I am all for, ASAP, laying a clutch of tiny spy flies to deliver to where the Speaker can pick up the eggs and bring them into camp.

It's not like we'll have to feed them since we can't control them anyway, they'll just run about until they starve.
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>>32207921
While keeping Lee in a cave of his own / metaphorical doghouse as a pet is appealing, let's wait on that.
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>>32207921

No, we can't compromise the safety of the hive.
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>>32207829
Lee looks at you nervously as he takes out his pistol.
"Do you know what exactly they are?"
"Very big, and many of them!"
"Ok... well stay close to me." Lee moves back to one of the small tents, inside you note many more gravely wounded humans. Lee leans against a nearby tree, taking the weight off his leg.

The humming of the fence stops suddenly, and you note several of the rampaging creatures waver in their course. Two stop outright and begin to lumber about in a daze before slowly moving back out to the mossy plains. Most of them, however, seem to stay their course. You wonder of they know what they are even chasing now. Likely the ones behind are following the ones in front are running from whatever imaginary thing could be chasing the ones behind. It hardly matters. Nearly a dozen are left and will arrive at the camp very soon. Should you wish to prepare, or offer assistance now would be the time.

>Have warriors help defend the camp
>Offer advice (write in)
>Other
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>>32208059
Which is way more advanced than just dwelling in a cave like when Lee was there last.

Let's not reveal we have Creep/squishy walls/Infrastructure.
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>>32208073
>Warrior defense!
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>>32208073
No risking our precious children.
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>>32208073

Offer warrior defense in exchange for some of those funny looking human technology.

High-pressure salesmanship is a go
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>>32208073
>Have warriors help defend the camp

Preferably from out of site, but defense is top priority. We'll hopefully be able to get some nice samples from these things.
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>>32208073
>Have warriors help defend the camp
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>>32208093
>revealing our mastering of projectile weaponry
NO.
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>>32208073

>Other

Use the warriors/drones we dispatched to try to cause the horde to splinter or redirect its course. Have the warriors attack one side so they lean away from them, while the workers have dug a ditch (or some other obstacle) that the horde wants to avoid to push them further off course.
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>>32208120
>defense is top priority
...how so?

They'll be fine. They have lightning guns.

If we do get a few human corpses out of the deal it's actually a good thing.
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>>32208073

Alternatively, send in few workers to quickly loot any technology from any humans who get trampled or killed while the remaining humans are distracted.

We could have them be accompanied by warriors if need be to "help out"
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>>32208136

I have to agree with overly-paranoid anon here. This: >>32208159
would be good so long as we don't do any of it in sight of the humans.
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>>32208073
>Other
Ask for a power generator of theirs.

So we can lure some of them elsewhere. (And study it.)

Do NOT let them see our warriors.
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>>32208136
Who said anything about using our weapons?

>>32208073
Have our warriors turn up with no weapons and declare our intent to die helping our friends. Hopefully they'll hand us some spare weapons out of pity.

Naturally said weapons will disappear in the confusion of battle.
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>>32208186
Yes, they'll definitely lend us weapons we have no training in and can't actually hold.
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>>32208186
Warriors are equipped with weapons, would you just have them disarm themselves at the hive before going out?

Also risking our children at all for random xenos is also a poor move anyway.
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>>32208073
You decide it best to help the humans, or at the very least, attempt to mitigate the damage.

>Send warriors to help directly
>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede
>Other
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>>32208231
>>32208234
Fair enough.
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>>32208073
>Have warriors help defend the camp

Either A) With no weapons or B) Try to pick some of them off from a distance.

We can send out the drones to retrieve the corpses of the creatures for study/food afterwords.
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>>32208243
>Other

Get power sources from the humans and attract the stampede elsewhere!
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>>32208243
>>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede
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>>32208243
>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede
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>>32208265
Probably dont have time.
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>>32208288
Surely if we have time to send warriors to arrive at the camp, we have time to take a power generator a moderate distance.

Maybe not with the Speaker, but Speaker can deliver it to a worker that's out and about.
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>>32208243
>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede
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>>32208243

>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede.

Send warriors to assist...if they'll get there in time.
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>>32208243
I don't care what we do as long as we don't send warriors to defend directly.
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>>32208317
If we have time to move the generators why don't we just get them to move their camp out of the way?
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>>32208346
Worker drones are stronger and faster than a large group of humans carrying heavy equipment. Duh.
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>>32208073
>Have warriors help defend the camp
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>>32208243
>>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede
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>>32208346
I'm assuming because it would take too long to move their wounded.

>>32208243
>Send warriors to help directly
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>>32208073
whynotboth.png
send the drones to divert the stampede but move in the warriors to be in place to quickly defend the camp if that fails
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>>32208243
You already have a small squad of drones that you had sent out to scout the area. You don't have time to send any others out, so you will just have to make due. They run after the massive, lumbering creatures and catch up to them soon enough. They move quite fast, but your two warriors easily out run them, leaving your small squad of workers in the dust.

>Attack the creatures head on
>Shoot them from the side
>Attempt to tackle one
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>>32208395
>>Attempt to tackle one
I want to dissect it anyway. Only need one.
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>>32208395
>>Shoot them from the side

Assuming humans can't see us, if they do, fuck using warriors.
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>>32208364
Maybe the humans dont have extra generators to be throwing away.
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>>32208419
Maybe their lives are more important than power generators.

This is the one chance we have to get them to give us one willingly really. Since it helps save their lives.

Too late now I guess though.
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>>32208395

>Attempt to tackle one

Haha, just for the hilarity.

Then we shall ride it to direct the charge elsewhere. (Perhaps to around our mountain so we have all the resources we need for quite a while.)
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>>32208395
>Shoot them from the side
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>>32206776
>Net: -42
We really need to send a huge hunting/foraging party next chance we get.
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>>32208395
>>Attempt to tackle one
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>>32208395
>Shoot them from the side

Just need to lure a couple off and point them away from the humans.
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>>32208395
>>Shoot them from the side

Why would we even tackle them when we have shooting claw things
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>>32208468

We have farms in the process of being carved out as we speak.
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>>32208468
I get the feeling we're about to see a decent surge in available food. These big things are probably tasty.
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>>32208395
>>Shoot them from the side
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>>32208486
And we don't know their daily output yet or when they'll be done.

Better to have more than 5 days' worth of food if we want to keep growing, since that'll quickly become 2 days' worth.
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>>32208395
>>Shoot them from the side
Shoot ONE from the side
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>>32208439
They would probably die without electricity, at least in their own heads. I doubt they want to shack up with giant bugs.
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>>32208512
damn, you should've voted for tackle then.
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>>32208395
>Shoot them from the side
Your warriors move to the flank and take aim. Hopefully you can scare them into turning away from the camp.

Roll 1 d100, best of 3
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>>32208516
In the heat of the moment they could consent, given we promise to bring it back the next day.

We might meet some delays on that front.
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>>32208516
>I doubt they want to shack up with giant bugs
You never know maybe they are fa/tg/uys
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>>32208073
>Offer advice (write in)

Erect a fence elsewhere have our drones and diggers dig a hole turnthe stampede falls into hole we close it off they die of starvation we fucking profit
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>>32208551
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>>32208551
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>>32208551
Here we go!
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>>32208551
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>>32208560
I doubt it would survive in the first place seeing as all these monsters are going hell for leather after it.
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>>32208551
I hope we don't scare them off at all though.

I hope we just catch one or two to eat and/or dissect.
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Cool, i haven't caught one of these since the first thread.

Something VERY IMPORTANT that seems to have been overlooked.

It is entireley possible that ocean-fungus will have a 'budding season'. If those spores become airborne, we're fucked.

Every drone that goes outside becomes a timebomb.

The thinkers developed that filter lung, but that's not enough.

We need some sort of filter-gland to make us immune, even if they do get in our system.
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>>32208613
>turn on device
>run like hell, perpendicular to the herd's charge
>turn off device after they change course enough
>keep running, change direction
One drone has more mobility than a camp with wounded humans.
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>>32208647
>It is entireley possible that ocean-fungus will have a 'budding season'. If those spores become airborne, we're fucked.
I thought the same thing ever since the first Cordyceps drone exploded. When are those spores getting released? Probably during the global summer that's coming up.

...and that filter lung *is* enough, if we equip it on every drone that goes outside during that time. But that makes them so squishy and vulnerable.
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>>32208647

That's quite easy to do, just have to invest in research.

The more pressing issue is hiding/disguising/withdrawing our radio-antenna drone before we get somebody from space snooping around.
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>>32208649
>implying the generator doesn't need to be stationary
>implying one drone can out run the bugs
>implying it doesn't get attacked by other smaller but still nasty bugs that are nearby.
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>>32208647
>We need some sort of filter-gland to make us immune, even if they do get in our system.
No, we just have to have the hive seal the doors and lay low and live off our stockpiles/underground farms until the threat literally blows over. Like hibernation but as a hive.
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>>32208667

Only the lung itself is squishy and vulnerable.
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>>32208551
Your warriors open fire, placing a volley of chitinous rounds into the side of the closest two creatures. They let out a deep howl and shift their weight into the next in the herd with a thunderous crash. Several of the rounds simply bounce off, but you note some damage done to at least one of them. As they try to turn away from your warriors they bump and tackle each other in a mad melee. Several of the creatures eventually turn away, while one bounces off of the others and turns in the direction of your warriors!

Roll 1d100, best of 3
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>>32208752
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>>32208752
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>>32208752

Hah! Eat hot chitin, motherfucker!

What's up with everything here having armor that can shrug off rifle-equivalent round?
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>>32208752
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>>32208771
You mean the Enormous bugs and the mechs? The only other thing we shot with them got fucked up.
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>>32208771
These guys are supposed to shrug of flying death wasps without missing a beat.
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>>32208667
>...and that filter lung *is* enough, if we equip it on every drone that goes outside during that time. But that makes them so squishy and vulnerable.

A Set of external lungs grafted on the outside.... yeah, i don't need to list all the risks with that.

Even if the lungs are improved, if the spores get in a cut, or one swallows something...

We need some sort of gland to purge the spores from our system.

[X] vote to breed team of thinkers and dedicate them to this.
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>>32208896
>We need some sort of gland to purge the spores from our system.
That is probably impossible.
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>>32208752
You are caught off guard as the creature lunges toward your warriors. Is it just panicked or is it actually attacking? Regardless, the beast slams into one of your warriors with a loud crunch. Your drone just manages to grasp a piece of its thick shell before it falls off and under foot. You try to maintain your grip, but as you make to climb over the creature it slams into a tree, and your warrior with it. Your drone bounces off the thick trunk and falls to the dirt, rolling a short distance before coming to a stop in a bloodied heap. You can feel its thoughts drifting slowly about, alive but barley.
"H-hurt..."

The creature is turning around for another pass, but there are at least six from the herd that are still heading to the camp. Your injured warrior can hardly move, let alone stand and fight.

>Stay and protect the injured warrior
>Abandon the warrior and chase after the rest of the herd
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>>32208896
Game balance isn't easily circumvented with "i wish we could do this" ideas. I prefer to work with the building blocks we've been given.
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>>32208950
>>Stay and protect the injured warrior
Gotta protect our kids!

And dissect that elephant thing.
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>>32208950

>Stay and protect the injured warrior.

We don't want the humans seeing our warriors and their weapons anyway.
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>>32208958
You mean the blocks of "your tech is largely determined by your imagination"?
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>>32208950
>>Stay and protect the injured warrior
Targets: Eyes, Ears/antennae, Bottom of feet
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>>32208996
We can't invent poisons, we have to study something poisonous.

To create better filter organs, we probably need to study more infectious spores.

We need a concrete research path to follow. Researching one kind of spores got us the filter lungs. We need more data to upgrade it.
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>>32208950
>>Stay and protect the injured warrior

If the humans can't take down 6 of the herd, then they weren't going to go very far on this planet anyway
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>>32208928
We have insane biotech that can create organic fusion reactors and living space ships.

If we can't develop a chemical that kills spores and a gland to produce it, fucking laugh.
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>>32208950
>>Stay and protect the injured warrior
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>>32209027
I'm not saying that we don't. Maybe we just have to get the lungs to unlock the next level of lung upgrade.
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>>32209042

Are you special snowflake anon from earlier?

Anyway, we just need to research the spores first. Once we research a wide enough variety of spores to a sufficiently detailed extent we'll probably unlock a 'universal key' that'll grant us immunity to most of the toxins on the planet.

We can't just magic up an immunity gland without research though.
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>>32209089
More importantly, we can't just tell the Thinkers "we want this!" and get it.

we have to have a research subject, new spore varieties.
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>>32208950
>Stay and protect the injured warrior
You have helped enough already, you do not intend to sacrifice one of your precious children so easily. Your warrior raises its weapons and takes aim.

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>>32209127
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>>32209042
>We have insane biotech that can create organic fusion reactors and living space ships.
>If we can't develop a chemical that kills spores and a gland to produce it, fucking laugh.
Note these are completely unrelated. Our ability to create reactors has no effect on our ability to create glands.
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>>32209127
shoot the soles!
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>>32209127
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>>32209167
Based warrior.
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>>32209127
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>>32209187

I do hope that crits don't override outside the voting window.
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>>32209145
Not him, but I understand where he's coming from.

If your genetic memory gives you the ability to create organic fusion reactors and living space ships, why haven't we also been given the capacity for high-performance filtration?
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>>32209089
>Are you special snowflake anon from earlier?
What?

>We can't just magic up an immunity gland without research though.

yep, that's why i said [x]vote to breed team of thinkers and dedicate them to the problem.

The basic Idea should be simple enough. Expose spore samples to every chemicle/horemone we can produce until we have a mix we can use.

Something the spores hate, that we can handle
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>>32209209

For game balance man, geeze. Also maybe the genetic memory included space ships because those are important but not filters because our home planet doesn't have many airborne pathogens?
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>>32209209
>organic fusion reactors
He made that up.

That was a misunderstanding clarified near the end of last thread. We don't have fusion at all.
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>>32209209
can we even access that tech right now?

Also, we need to figure out the practicals of constant filtration: maintaining the filter, ejecting filtrates, adjusting the filter to suit the environment, and figuring out a protocol for when the filters are breached. We can do it, it just takes time.
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>>32209253
>[x]vote to breed team of thinkers and dedicate them to the problem.
That isn't going to work. Just keep studying samples of infectious things when we get the chance. We don't have any more right now. We exhausted all research into the ocean fungus itself.
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>>32209145
We create fusion with modafied glands and organs. They are very related.
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>>32209286
We can have it though.
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>>32209338
You mean the giant stomach?
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Standing over the injured warrior, your drone takes aim as the creature charges. A tree is uprooted and split into pieces as the massive beast tramples it underfoot, its numerous legs clawing at the ground as it carries its armored mass directly at you. You open fire in response, puncturing several of the eyes. The creature lets out a howl of pain and rears up, its carapace straining from the stress of its own weight and revealing a soft, exposed underbelly. You litter it with chitinous slugs, shredding the beast's belly and spilling its contents across the ground. It continues to lunge back, and eventually turns over, slumping to its back in a thrashing rage that soon withers into still silence.

The beast is dead, and your warrior is saved. The workers have nearly caught up and move to assist the warrior back to the hive.

1/2
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>>32209338

Fusion would be a very difficult thing to do with organic materials...
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>>32209399

Drag the corpse too!! Soooo many nutrients!
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>>32209349
There is no indication nuclear fusion is possible with biological organs. We don't even know nuclear fusion exists as far as I can tell.

>>32209338
Different tech trees entirely.

Also, we don't, in fact, do any fusion whatsoever, organically or otherwise.
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>>32209439
By that logic there's no indication nuclear fusion is possible with mechanical components either.
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>>32209309
>That isn't going to work.

What's the problem?

-get sample of spores.
-Store in secure lab.
-Expose to different substances and test results.
-Repeat until we get results or find something better.

Why are you even objecting. This is something important we need, with an obvious and simple sloution.
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>>32209566
Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure he's talking about your 'Get a group of thinkers and tell them to figure something out' idea.
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>>32209564

I'm not sure you understand nuclear fusion.
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>>32209566
>with an obvious and simple sloution.
There is none
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>>32209405
>>32209439
We used something to power faster than light travel. Also QuestDrone totally said we can make some sort of giant nuclear stomach thing last thread.
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>>32209664
It was just a giant stomach.
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You guys know it's not an either/or deal with the material base of our technology, right? Even our basic infantry weapons include inorganic materials, simply manipulated using organic means.

I suspect that as we rise through tech trees, things will become increasingly metalo-organic.
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>>32209633
I'm certain you don't.
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>>32209695
This.
So much this.
The line between organism and machine will begin to increasingly blur as we get more and more capabilities to expand and empower both.
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>>32209693
Well hell it doesn't matter if it was nuclear or not, if it can produce the same power that's pretty damn impressive.
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>>32209633
And I'm not quite sure you understand biology.
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>>32209664
For the last time, I already said that was a misunderstanding that was clarified last thread. You should have kept reading. >>32076425
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>>32209566
That's a nice goal. It's not reaaaally a plan. It's something that requires multiple steps over a prolonged amount of time, too. It's ALSO something that doesn't appear to be incredibly pressing this very moment.

Definitely a priority is to increase knowledge of the ecosystem and its dangers. It's something we're all keeping in mind, I'm sure.
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>>32209622
Yes, i voted to breed a group of thinkers and dedicate them to this project.... why is that a problem?

I really don't get what people are objecting to here.
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>>32209742
Could have missed it. it was a while ago and I have been doing a bunch of tests.
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>>32209751
You don't have a plan. You have a goal. We are already laying Thinkers once in a while to increase our research pool.

You see a research subject available that looks like it contributes to your goal, vote for it. Repeating your goal over and over right now accomplishes nothing.

I swear conversations like this almost make me stop liking open ended quests.
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>>32209751
It would be a waste of time and resources at this point.
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>>32209751
All you were originally saying is that we get a group of thinkers and tell them we want a solution. That is not how any of our tech has worked so far. We need to give them some specific material to research, then they'll give us results.
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>>32209399
The humans have set themselves up along the edge of the fence, lightning guns at the ready. As the howling in the distance becomes louder you note many begin to waver in their aim, including Lee, who is shaking slightly in his suit.

The treeline breaks, and a number of small creatures leap the fence, bounding in all directions as they flee the stampede. A moment later the perimeter explodes as the massive shell of one of the herd rips the cables from their anchors with a loud twang. The creature is met with a dozen arcing tendrils of lighting searing into its front and it promptly leaps to the side, annihilating several empty tents and a flood light before slamming into a small, dug out shelter carved into the trunk of a tree. It shakes back and forth violently in a vain effort to shake off the bubbling flesh covering its face. Several more tendrils leap into its side, slicing deep, burning gashes into its armor. Two more appear from the treeline, and a human disappears under one as it advances. A small crunch and muffled scream is all that would indicate if it has run over anything at all, and the two are quickly covered in arcing plasma.

Lee lets loose several bursts from his own pistol, and you note he is screaming in panic as he does so. His first shot arcs through the air before turning sharply and evaporating a large chunk of a tree, while the next slices off several legs from one of the advancing creatures. Another two enter the camp, mowing over more of the camp and several of the remaining humans before meeting the same fate.

By the time the last has fallen still in the clearing, you count seven out of twelve of the humans, not counting the wounded still in the tent Lee had been defending.

>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)
>Leave it, it's too big to deal with right now
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>>32209895
>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)
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>>32209895
>>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)
speaker can...observe the wreakage?
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>>32209895
>>Leave it, it's too big to deal with right now
Well.

I hope the body will be there later.

I'd like to subtly retrieve a human corpse while they're distracted.
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>>32209895

>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods.

Let's try to study that armor before we eat it.
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>>32209748
>That's a nice goal. It's not reaaaally a plan.

It's a solid start. Get samples. Test samples. Repeat as needed. If you want more, i think that'll have to wait for the first stage to testing to open more options.

It's ALSO something that doesn't appear to be incredibly pressing this very moment.

For all we know, the spores will go airborne in two weeks.

Of course, it might not happen this year, but we can't risk it.

Inaction could fuck us.
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>>32209985
>Repeat as needed.
Game mechanics do not seem to allow this. For game balance reasons.

We have exhausted all research subjects related to the ocean spores. Period. There is no more spore research until we get a new and more interesting sample unlike what we've found before.
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>>32209895
>>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)
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>>32209895
>>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)
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>>32210000
Hail the wisdom of the quads!
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>>32207904
So are our Speaker drone's splint-ed up legs healed yet?
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>>32209985
We don't even know that sporing seasons are even a thing with the ocean. General ecological research might tell us that, and covers many more potential threats. Focusing just on the one because it's spooky that a worker got taken over is understandable, but rash.
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>>32210000

To be fair, we could choose the action "Collect interesting samples of local fungi."

But...we don't seem to have 'turns' where we can choose our own actions all that often.
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>>32210100
I don't see how that's a "To be fair". That is only adding to my point.

Go, do that. This guy can just stop whining about how his idea of how the research mechanic works should be how it works, instead of how it has actually seemed to.
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>>32210074
Yes, sorry I keep forgetting to answer that...
>>32209895
>Salvage the creature
You send out your workers and they quickly move to the dead creature. Your warrior helps up his wounded brother and together with the workers, who even with their number struggle to carry the massive weight of the still bleeding beast. It takes several hours to get the corpse back to the hive, in the mean time the humans attempt to recover from the attack.
"The hell were those things?"
"What does it matter, just so long as they stay dead."
"God! Stevens!"
Several of the humans collect what little remains of there killed crew, and the rest replace the cables of the fence.
The fence remains powered off.
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>>32210100
We're caught up with the humans making a mess of things right now.

Searching for delicious researches is something I'd support. Man it's really piling up though, huh?
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>>32210000
>We have exhausted all research subjects related to the ocean spores. Period. There is no more spore research until we get a new and more interesting sample unlike what we've found before.

Has QuestDrone actually said this?

Is something stopping us from collecting spores and testing them?

Good chance some of the local creatures will have some sort or resistance. If possible, i'd expose the spores to samples taken from them. See if we get any results.
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>>32210186
Look at the available research subjects for research.

Do you see ocean fungus anymore?

No?

Jesus use your goddamn eyes.
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>>32210151
>+XXX Nutrients?
>new research subject?
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>>32210219
Yes, because the listed options are the ONLY options.

Other important or interesting things could never come up.
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>>32210249

Slow down man, he's obviously writing.

>>32210186
More likely the local creatures learned not to eat the ocean.
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>>32210151
>Several of the humans collect what little remains of there killed crew,
note to self: remember if/where they buried those.
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>>32210151
The day continues, quietly and slowly at the human camp, quickly and without incident in your hive. As night falls you note the humans don't seem to get much sleep. Lee approaches your drone with a small, half eaten brick of bland nutrients and sits on the ground.
"So how you holding up?" He asks.
"Acceptable."
"So what were those things, exactly?" Lee takes a bite out of his nutrient brick, breaks off a piece and offers it to you. "Some kind of pack animal or something?"
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>>32210321
"We do not know. This is the first time we have seen such large prey. We normally stay within the forest, but these beasts came from the plains."
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>>32210301
They're the only ones currently available yes. The only time research options have appeared is when we've acquired new material.
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>>32210321
Shiiiit. Our non nativeness is suspected by Grey and company ain't it.

How to answer...

"Yes. We have seldom hunted them."
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>>32210321

"Explain: Pack Animal.

Yes, they are "pack animal." Wander [where we saw them before, I think the plains], very dangerous. The hive does not hunt them, why did you?"
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>>32210321
"Yes, they roam in packs on the plains. They have formidable armor and are best avoided."
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>>32210378
>>32210387

Seconding.
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>>32210321
To be clear, these creatures were large enough to fit being the same as those big shapes we saw on the plains, right?
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>>32210406

While it's not been stated, yeah. That's an acceptable leap of logic.
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>>32210321
"Dangerous. They come from the plains. The Hive does not hunt them. They hunt... disturbances. Your lightning guns are powerful."
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>>32210436
>>32210387
>>32210378

All good.

Be sure to include the question.
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>>32210378
Maybe a little followup.

"A lure like you used, if smaller, would be very useful in attracting prey."

hint hint nudge nudge Lee
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>>32210462

Yes, that too.
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>>32210154
>Searching for delicious researches is something I'd support.
Let's try something we might have a limited time window on though, rather than ecology --

send workers to scout for the humans' life ships. Lee said the original camp wasn't far from where they touched down.
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>>32210462

Let's not ask them for that just yet. Or at least not so bluntly, be more sly about it.

We've got Unity Drone tech to acquire, I'm sure they include a generator.
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>>32210406
Yes, and judging by the direction they came from, they had originated near the plains.

>>32210321
"Pack...animal?"
"Yea. You know, like domestication or something. I mean, those looked wild but I figured you would have used some of them to carry stuff."
"No. They are dangerous and have thick armor. The hive has not ventured past the Jungle."
"Seriously? Never?" Lee seems genuinely surprised. "How long have you been living in this jungle?"
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>>32210506
>The hive has not ventured past the Jungle."
Damn it...
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>>32210506
Long enough to know not to venture past the jungle.
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>>32210506
The hive is young. The jungle provides all nourishment we require.
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>>32210506

"As long as I can remember"
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>>32210506
"We have hidden from those flying things for many generations, and the plains are far too advantagous for them."
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>>32210506
>The hive has not ventured past the Jungle."
fuck, anon, you shouldn't have said that.

"Why would we venture beyond the Jungle?"
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>>32210506
"Open air brings high danger. The jungle is sanctuary."

Also: >>32210533
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>>32210506
Couple days
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>>32210506

>>32210528
I like this one.
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>>32210536
>>32210546
>>32210577

Yes.
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>>32210506
>The hive has not ventured past the Jungle.
Why would you say this?
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>>32210349
Youuuuuuu

You did this!
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>>32210546
I would vote for this.
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>>32210524
>>32210546
>>32210615
>>32210634
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was trying to imply that we stick to forests, not that we've never been to the plains
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>>32210615

Eh, plenty of species don't expand beyond their native biome.

It is, in fact, a mark of advanc(ed/ing) civilization for a species to extend beyond its native biome. This slip up will probably serve to convince them that we're primitive.
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>>32210651
It's all good, Especially if thats the meaning. Just, you know, read the paranoia in the air.
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>>32210533
"As long as we have walked."
Would be more truthful.
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>>32210699
They called me mad. But it was they who were mad!

Mad about shadowruns.
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>>32210707

That's a good one, I like it.
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>>32210506
"As long as the hive can remember. The places past the jungle are too dangerous."
Lee takes another bite of his nutrient brick. "Well it doesn't seem much better here." He leans back against the soft trunk of a mushroom tree and absently looks up, as if looking for stars. With the power shut off the dim glow of the tree's soft fins are clearly visible in the night. "You know, when it isn't actively trying to kill you, this planet is kinda pretty.

"Lee!"
Lee looks back over to the harsh light of a lamp shining in a tent. Commander Grey is leaning out of the shutter. "I need to talk to you!"
"Damn, so much for that. I'll see ya in the morning, Junior."

...Junior?
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>>32210749

Time for espionage!
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>>32210749
Damn. We really need those spy flies. Probably more about us.

Well, next turn time! Allocate workers to life pods retrieval?
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>>32210749
I hope Lee has good luck with his Queen's mating advances. They must replenish their numbers quickly.
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>>32210788
Funny.

But our species clearly does not have sexual reproduction.
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>>32210749
Time for a new turn.
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>>32210785

We'll advocate them to searching for them. Perhaps we should research the Unity weapons first (We have a mostly intact drone that we're interfacing with actually) and use them to destroy any pods we don't steal. Alternately, perform field research...steal important/complicated bits, then blast the rest.

To cover our tracks, you see?
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>>32210749
Lee walks over to the tent and crawls inside. You note several shadows within, although you cannot hear them from this distance.
You note that most of the other humans are either drifting to sleep in their own tents and carved out shelters, or are on watch at the perimeter fence, which seems farther away than the humans seem to be able to see in the dark.
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>>32210844
>destroy any pods we don't steal.
but Metals!
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>>32210844

Allocate*

>>32210870
We're starting up a mine, covering our tracks is more important.
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>>32210860
>farther away than the humans seem to be able to see in the dark.
As if we have the opportunity to....

sneak closer and eavesdrop with our sensitive antennae.

I mean we heard that rumbling long before the humans noticed it. Our range should be large.
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>>32210870
destroy them by eating them.
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>>32210886
It may be possible...
They seem to have already started a discussion about something.
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>>32210886

I would approve. Get the nutrient brick (or a worm) to nibble on. If anyone asks, we just wished to be near our hive-comrade Lee!
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>>32210886
I 100% support this action.
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>>32210907
I'm realizing belatedly that one of our digger drones with their sonar-tier echolocation sensitivity would be good for eavesdropping at great distances too.

Something to consider for later. If no spy flies.
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>>32210886
I'll second this
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>>32210860
>Attempt to sneak to the tent and eavesdrop
>Don't, it's too risky (progress to next day)
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>>32210947
oh man is it "roll for stealth" time?
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>>32210947
>Don't, it's too risky (progress to next day)
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>>32210947
>Attempt to sneak to the tent and eavesdrop
Only if we can mantain a decent distance. Speaker drone is not very subtle. And not very hard to see.
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>>32210947

>Attempt to sneak!!!
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>>32210947
>Attempt to sneak to the tent and eavesdrop
Let's curl up near there and pretend to sleep.
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>>32210968

True, I support.

>>32210955
With our Mantis-shrimp colored drone, yes.
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>>32210947
>>Don't, it's too risky (progress to next day)
different drone
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>>32210947
>Attempt to sneak to the tent and eavesdrop
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>>32210947
>Attempt to eavesdrop

Roll 1d100, best of 3
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Rolled 93

>>32210987

We've stated before that we do not need sleep. This is a relatively viable excuse if we get caught though: >>32210910


>>32211005
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>>32210999
None are nearby, man. This is a one time convo.

Though we could lay maybe one or two as small as possible flier scout drones later yeah.
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Rolled 91

>>32211005
Worst case scenario they see and and stop talking
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Rolled 64

>>32211005
Here we go!
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Rolled 6

>>32211005
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Rolled 51

>>32211005
tempted to stop rolling to avoid critfail cuz a 93 but
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Imagine how it looks to them.

A monster, being friendly. Too friendly. Yet clearly lying to you about something. Hiding something.

And you swore you scouted upstream before and found it uninhabited. And Zoey and company found that weird organic pod in the wake of that big impact sound.
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>>32211010
Closeness with honorary drone Lee plan is a go.
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>>32211069

Fair, our only real hope is that they've been too stressed out by everything that's been going on to put 2 and 2 and 3 and 4 together. (Which is not an unreasonable presumption).

Intel Analysts who read the debriefings will connect the dots though, but by then we should be firmly established.
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>>32211069
In their diminished state, I'm not particularly worried about their paranoia. I've favored supporting them as convenient so far for the intelligence opportunites on factions beyond this "sphere" and possible tech opportunities.
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>>32211069
Meh. Just not seeing it anon
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>>32211169
I just hope one of their wounded is beyond saving and expires so we can nab the body without it being too squashed like the others.
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>>32211005
why not take one of the dead bodies the human's put in there morgan instead of skipping to the next morning?
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>>32211362

What? Waltzed up to the morgue and walk out with a dead body?

Are you crazy?
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>>32211362
>I have no idea wtf is going on here but I like it
Even not knowing what's going on, you're being very foolish if you think no one will be around to notice activity in the 'morgue'.

Or wherever they keep the bodies.

Also leaving camp would be suspicious and require going past the guards on perimeter duty. Duhhhh.
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>>32211005
You can't take it anymore. The nagging curiosity is too much!
Your speaker drone gets up, and it is only now that you realize just how loud the foliage is as it crumples under foot. Even still, you slowly make your way to the tent, antennae held low in an effort to make out their conversation. As you get closer the light from the tent's interior begins to lightly illuminate your drone's vibrantly colored carapace. You immediately regret making your speaker so incredibly brightly colored...

"I think he's nice."
"You think everything is nice, Lee, that's how you lost every credit you had last shore leave to those Taidarens."
"But they looked honest enough."
A woman's voice, hushed yet stern comes through.
"They can't physically make facial expressions! How are you telling me they looked honest? Taidarens can't even own property outside of Hydra, damnit!"
"Lee, just tell us what you think so far." Is that Seiner?
"I told you. I think he's nice."
"They. You mean they." Seiner again... "I think they are a gestalt intelligence that uses radio waves to communicate. I'm still trying to figure out how they adapt so quickly though. Have they said anything about it?"
"What? No. I mean, it's weird talking to...them, I guess. It's hard to explain. Like talking to somebody on the phone."
"Probably something to do with their intelligence. You're likely talking with most, if not all of them at once."
Grey's voice speaks up now.
"Look, after we crashed something fell from orbit. It was gone the next damn day after something chased us away from it. Did you see it when you were in their hive?"
"No."
"Are you sure?"
"Yes, sir, I am sure." You can sense a certain amount of aggravation in the statement.
You can hear Grey sigh. "Ok, Lee. Just keep an eye on that thing until the fleet gets here. This system is supposed to be secure. If these things are civilized, or god forbid space-fairing we have a whole other book of protocols."
"Understood, Sir." Lee makes to leave.
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>>32211424
Forgot to change my name from a different thread. I'm up to date with this one.

Also, its dark and they can't SEE to the fence. pretty sure the bodies are in a TENT or somewhere away from the others. if we sneak workers in and have them stick to the darkness, we could smuggle a body out.
>>32211400
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>>32211449
fuck just go in and admit we're space faring already
this is getting old
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>>32211449
hide and wait until Lee leave's, Then speak to him abit later.

" What will your people do to us if we exist when more of you come?
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>>32211449

>Then we have a whole other book of protocols

Evil insect mode piqued and ready for engagement. If these niggers think they can take on the Hive then they'll have another thing coming.
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>>32211449
Lee's figure moves for the flap of the tent, which you are standing rather close to...

>Move back away from the tent as quickly and (hopefully) as quietly as possible
>Lay down and remain still and hope Lee doesn't see you.
>Make something up and play dumb
>Other
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>>32211449
>If these things are civilized, or god forbid space-fairing we have a whole other book of protocols."

Welp

>>32211510

Nope
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>>32211449
Haha time to get caught!
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>>32211524
Hope someone has a good write-in.
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>>32211524
>>Lay down and remain still and hope Lee doesn't see you.
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>>32211449
>space-fairing
I LOVE the Space Fairs!
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>>32211524
Pretend we're foraging for food?
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>>32211524
>PANIC, COMMIT SUICIDE
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>>32211524
>Make something up and play dumb

We wished to know what was inside that food, It was rather easy to eat and wished to know the secrets of it.
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>>32211579
I'll second this
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>>32211510

I dunno about that, "A whole other book of protocol" is rather forboding.

>>32211524

uhh, these:
>>32211575
>>32211579

If that doesn't work: >>32211578
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>>32211524
>>Other
Stare at the suddenly very interesting electric worms on the floor.

or

"It is unbecoming to speak harshly of ones' benefactors."
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>>32211579
No, no.

We forgot to ask if we could use technology like they used for the fence to attract food.

Only we'd have it on a lower setting obviously.
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>>32211524
>Make something up and play dumb

Knock
"Is the one called Lee here? This one wishes to discuss the meaning of the word "Banging".
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>>32211578

We dooo have that self-dissolution gland in there....
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>>32211524
lee should be the hives wiafu
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>>32211579
>that food, It was rather easy to eat
It would be odd to only ask about it now. We first ate it in like thread 4.
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>>32211612

That's better...not particularly convincing though.
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>>32211593
it's not foreboding at all
these guys have given no indication that they harbor even the slightest ill-intent towards other intelligent species
yall are getting too carried away with shadowruns
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>>32211645
the ration he ate and split a small piece off for us.
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>>32211651
>these guys have given no indication that they harbor even the slightest ill-intent towards other intelligent species
They hid their own secret plans of conquest by correcting themselves when they called the Texas part of the "frontier expansion fleet". Claimed it was merely "patrolling this part of space".

They're expansionists like we are. they won't tolerate competition.
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>>32211663
I...know that. it's the exact same emergency-rations nutrient rectangle.
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>>32211663
Yeah, we first ate it in Thread 4.

>>32211651
I was actually arguing against the shadowruns people, but this has me spooked.

"Civilized or, god forbid, space-faring" would indicate that somewhere something bad is going to happen if they discover our tech level.
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>>32211686
Then the plan is simple.
We into space.
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>>32211651
Actually, they might. Kinda. It's possible they pseudo-annex upstarts. We know they've uplifted species before, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't massively favorable to them.

Now, we don't -need- uplifting, but we're not in any shape to engage in interstellar politics.
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>>32211449
>>32211524

Well. We might have to kill them after all.
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>>32211723
>arguing against the shadowruns people
Such a FOOLISH anon you were.
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>>32211737
We could pull the countless worlds under command of the swarm tactic if it gets to that point lol
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>>32211723
Well we ARE supposed to be ACTING dumb, and this help reforcens we are not the BRIGHTEST speices on the world. WE wanna be dumb as LONG as possible to them.
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>>32211686
>>32211723

they've got their hands full with the unity
a one planet spacefaring race would go down as a footnote
and if we tell them now they won't freak out when they see we have other incredibly advanced technology
that would scare them a lot more, thinking we went from stone age to space exploration in a few months
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>>32211746
Should have let the herds squash them. Told you.

>>32211760
>countless worlds under command of the swarm tactic
What.

>lol
Are you lost, little boy?
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>>32211760
At the point that I would be comfortable frankly admitting our advancement, yes that would ideally be a plausible outcome. That time is not now.
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>>32211777

That would destroy their valuable technology.
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>>32211771
>a one planet spacefaring race would go down as a footnote
Correction: it would be low-hanging fruit. they'd assume it'd be easy to nip in the bud early before it becomes a problem.
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>>32211777
Letting them get squashed would have meant we didn't get this bit of info that helps characterize their faction. If necessary, we should be able to wipe them out ourselves. I don't think it is though.
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>>32211524
Current favored options seem to be.
>PANIC, SELF DESTRUCT! (Rupture chemical glands to cause rapid decomposition)
>Hide in the darkness
>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.
>Other
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>>32211605
Voting for this.
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>>32211771
They'd most likely aggressively recruit a one-planet spacefaring race into their alliance. Especially if they thought that doing so could help establish a foothold in a contested sector.
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>>32211815
We already knew they were suspicious of us. Well, the smart anons did.

We already knew they were a people of rules and regulations without flexibility, for varying levels of advancement as they define it.

We already knew about their "frontier expansion" manifest destiny thing.

The only new information is that phrase, "god forbid".
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>>32211827
Ask lee about the food that was given as it has improved upon your body.
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>>32211827
>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.

I rather like the food choice myself.
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>>32211802
If they thought that way, they would have just wiped us out by now. After all, if a one planet space-faring race is easy pickings, a one-planet stone age race would be even easier.

>>32211849
k, we could join their alliance
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>>32211827
>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.
Specifically about the fence. If it's possible to make it less powerful as a hunting lure.
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>>32211827
>Ask Lee something
"Lee, the Hive would like to know about that food you gave to this drone."
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>>32211827
>>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.
Electric lures for food. Can we have some?
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>>32211865
>>32211874
Again, its the same food we got days ago when we first sent the speaker to the humans.
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>>32211867
>wiped us out
Not wiped us out. They would use us as a resource. Possibly conquered, strong armed into working for them, agree to their rules and limits. Stone age people aren't useful.
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>>32211827

"Lee, this one has been wondering...why did you hunt so much food? Would you be willing to assist the Hive with your...bait?"
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>>32211867
Nope
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>>32211777
Its called a bluff, faggot.
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>>32211827
>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.
I like the thing about the fence. We believe that through modification, it would make an effective lure for food.
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>>32211897
Well, we need an excuse. And food is a decent one.
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>>32211912
>>32211827
Seconding this
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>>32211912
>>32211918

Yes.
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>>32211867
On your first point, these are crash survivors on an alien world. They were never looking for a fight. Since then, they've got severely diminished by enemy action. They also didn't know about us. There's basically no reasonable way that they could have or would have wanted to "wipe us out".

On your second point, I'd rather not. Huge reduction in autonomy, potential expansion, and it'd make the Unity our enemies. I'd like to learn more about them first.
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>>32211862
>>32211865
>>32211874
Food is stupid.

Ask about sharing electric lure technology since they don't want it.

>>32211925
> And food is a decent one.
No it isn't. Tech we recently discovered a use for is infinitely better than something we ate days and days ago.
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>>32211912
"Lee... we would ask assistance in.. mastering your... bait."
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>>32211951
WHY would we ask them something about the electric right NOW?

Did they NOT just seem aggressive or WORRIED about us being advanced?
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>>32211951
And if Lee is all "muh regulations", comment on how his species' rules seem quite stifling.
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>>32211909
I feel confident in our ability to hide progress from them if this happens. Especially since we develop everything organically.
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>>32211909

This anon gets it.

Stone-age race means that we're a useless novelty. Enslavement wouldn't get political approval, enlightenment would fuck with us too hard, so we're mostly left alone.

A Space-faring race is an equal, but we would be in an incredibly weak position for negotiating the treaties they would want.

People are freaking out a bit more than is warranted though. They've got no solid proof just yet and we sure won't give them any.
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>>32211951
Sorry, allow me to modify my statement to appeal to your autism:
Food, in general and as a topic, provides a decent excuse- due to the fact they believe us to be primitive and primitives tend to wonder where their next meal will come from.
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>>32211966

Approving.

Lee waifu best waifu.
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>>32211970
This isn't being advanced. This is a perfectly primitive-compatible desire for them to share an advancement we clearly lack.
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>>32211980

And if we accidentally give them solid proof, well there are only 7 witnesses who are capable of fighting back.
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>>32211966
I do enjoy that.

Out of all the humans I like Lee the most.
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>>32211449
>how they adapt so quickly though.
Ah, yes.

Our inexplicable obtainment of vocal cords in a freshly hatched drone 2 days after meeting a human.
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>>32212015
Everything they have RUNS on power. If we learn that, then we may spook them into thinking we will attack them or something. i'm basing my thoughts here on them being spooked, and very scared humans. we can ask them LATER. Not right now, espply when it seems we are listening IN on them.
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>>32211966
Yes. Yesssss.
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>>32212069
And how fast we developed projectile weapons after seeing them.
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>>32211827
Lee emerges from the tent, and for a moment looks around himself wide-eyed as he exits into the darkness. It isn't until he nearly bump's into you that he notices you. He jumps instinctively at the sudden sight.
"Jesus, you scared the shit out of me."
"The hive could use assistance with hunting more food. Would you be able to tell how those devices call to the herd?" You blurt out, pointing a claw to the fence.
Surely even Lee see's through your lie. It's too obvious!
"Oh, sure. They just pump electricity through the cables. The're supposed to keep things away though, not call them closer. I don't think the commander would appreciate me showing you how it works though."

Well, it was a good question, you think to yourself.
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>>32212086
They don't know we have projectile weapons at all.

Only that we probably took down 2 Unity drones and left them a flaming wreck.
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>>32212086
Not sure they know about our projectile weapons yet. We killed the drones secretly. Shot the bugs and the flying things secretly too.
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>>32212086
It should be noted that they have yet to see your warriors or their weapons.
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>>32212094
>I don't think the commander would appreciate me showing you how it works though."
Sweet, dutiful Lee.

Always cockblocked by the superior officer!
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>>32212017

Indeed, and we will have the element of surprise.
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>>32212094
Oh right. No night vision.

Well that was a waste of worrying.
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>>32212094
So we are caught then? Fucking hell.

------

Ask Lee what will happen to us whenever more of his kind arrive?
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>>32212094
This is why Lee is best human.

Now on to the next turn!
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>>32212094
"You are certain you can not help us master your bait?"
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>>32212094

"Thank you Lee-kun. ~"
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>>32212137
tiss why I said we could STEAL a body at night.
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>>32212138
Are you sure you're caught up with this quest?

You seem so new and dim witted.

ADVANCE TO NEXT DAY ALREADY
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>>32212165
uguuuuu~~
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>>32212173
Yes and they're missing one the next morning. No nothing suspicious here officer.
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>>32212153

Yes.
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>>32212138
Caught? What the hell are you talking about?

>>32212174
Agreed.
>Advance to the next day >>32212094
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>>32212173
Stop.
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>>32212177
*pomf* what're we gonna do in da mushroom Lee?
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>>32212094
Lee walks off to a small hole dug into one of the trees and rests for the night. The tent is still active, but they appear to have moved on to some trivial holograms once more, judging by the soft glow.
Writing next day now.
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>>32212173
They have GUARDS.

They were too far to see us far within the perimeter but the whole point of guards is they can see far enough along the fence itself to cover it if we try to leave!
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>>32212174
Lack of sleep, its 3:31am here

>>32212241
>>32212217
>>32212215
Alright I'll stop with stealing the bodies. But just remember it was for science... and the hive
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>>32212094
>They just pump electricity through the cables.

We can do that. Bio-electricity, motherfuckers. Lets let the thinkers ponder this and then lay some battery drones.
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>>32212263
Technically we can just pump electricity from deep within the earth.
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>>32212263

We could, but once they're gone. Don't bite off so much while there are watchers.
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life pods time? life pods time.

Hope the Thinkers finish their human tech interfacing in time for it.
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>>32212239
Nutrients 155
Metals 35

>Eat giant beetle
>Save for research

>Current research update
Your thinkers report that they have made progress with the Unity drone, but have reached a block. They have designed a way to interface with the drone but require resources to produce a prototype. It will require testing, but they are optimistic as always.

12 Nutrients
5 Metals
>Yes
>No (pause Unity Tech Interfacing)
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>>32212263
We just need to find a creature with a battery in it. Like a space camel's hump but for electricity not water.

Then we can harvest electricity from underground and bring it where we need it.
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>>32212374
>Save for research

>Yes
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>>32212374
save for research, WE ONLY HAVE 1 guys
yes
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>>32212374
>Save for research
>Yes

I figure we can get the nutrients we need from normal hunting
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>>32212374
>>Save for research
>>32212374
>>Yes
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>>32212374

>Save for research

>Yes

>Extra: Lay 5 Thinkers
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>>32212374
>Save for research
>Yes

We can eat it if we get desperate later, I guess.
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>>32212374
>Save for research
>Yes
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>>32212405

Yeah, our research is kind of piling up...
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>>32212405
>>Extra: Lay 5 Thinkers
Anon stahp.

that will cost 30 nutrients.

as is, we will starve in 3 days. that will shorten our time to 2 days.

food first.
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>>32212427

Farms are en-route tomorrow. We can hunt if needbe.
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>>32212474
>Farms are en-route tomorrow.
I forget where QM said exactly when they'd be completed by.

And we don't have any idea how many nutrients those will provide per day yet, do we?
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>>32212490
I think it'll be a little while before they're up to full yield anyway.
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>>32212425
You can't have too many researchers.
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>>32212374
That farm needs to hurry up, really need to counter that nutrient cost of upkeep.
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>>32212536
But you can lay drones too fast before our food supply is either steady or buffered up enough.
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>>32212560

Eh, It really is piling up though and we can scavenge if needbe.

>>32212405
Supporting.
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>>32212591
Scavenge first, build a fat buffer, *then* commit to more drones.
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>>32212591
I'm pretty sure we already have a few in the works.
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>>32212374
>save for research
>approve prototype

150 Nutrients
35 Metals

Your diggers have made good progress towards the intended dig site, in another day they will hopefully begin to bring in a steady stream of metal alloys, in similar news the workers are well on their way to finishing the chamber for the algae farm, and should be finished in another two days, although it may take longer for a full harvest to come in. (Will produce 500 nutrients per day once complete. Can be upgraded later.)

>Research complete - flyer dissection
Your thinkers report with glee that they have completed the dissection of the predatory flyer. The creature is quite large, and supports it bulk in the air through a combination of air bladders in the wings and a series of methane fueled, naturally evolved ramjets. It would be a simple matter to create a drone with these, although it would make it rather large and totally remove its ground based effectiveness. Such a drone would be incredibly fast, but would have a poor turning radius, and would be unable to walk or climb, reducing it to purely an air based role. In addition, you have refined your methods of radar detection, increasing the effectiveness of your antenna.

You now have two thinkers idle.
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>>32212641
Could we not use millipede-like legs on the bottom of the flyer to grant it some measure of mobility in its 'hangar'?
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>>32212641
Items of interest
>Lightning gun
Very slow, potential of failure and destruction of sample device
>Human environment suit
Very Slow, a bulky looking, yet light weight suit composed of tightly woven fabric and small metallic plating covering the chest and forearms. The suit seems to react to injury to the user, and contains a number of devices the humans use to make up for their frail physical structure and sensitive biology. Study of this technology could offer insight into any number of research fields.
>Human technology interfacing
You have determined that the small device you retrieved from the human camp is some kind of artificial data storage. Physically it is worthless, but if you were to spend the time to develop a way to interface your thinkers with it the data within may prove well worth the effort.

>Boost current research (Unity interfacing, Human tech interfacing)
>Start new research
>Other

>>32212621
You currently have 1 refinery drone that will hatch the next day.
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>>32212641
Unity Weaponry

Accelerate Farm construction
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>>32212641
>>Research
benefits of giant beetle
Lighting gun
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>>32212641

>Extra
Disguise/Hide the Radar drone.

>>32212690
>Boost current research
Unity Interfacing.
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>>32212690
>>Human technology interfacing
>You have determined that the small device you retrieved from the human camp is some kind of artificial data storage. Physically it is worthless, but if you were to spend the time to develop a way to interface your thinkers with it the data within may prove well worth the effort.
This. We need to figure out exactly what their "different set of protocols" are if they find out we aren't rock-bangers.
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>>32212690
What about the giant beetle?

>>32212685
Find a millipede-like creature to research if you want that, probably?
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>>32212690
>Boost current research (Unity interfacing, Human tech interfacing)
I'd say boost the Human Tech Interface so we can speed that up.
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>>32212690
>Boost current research (Human tech interfacing)
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>>32212694
sorry lemme fix that

>>32212690
>>Unity Drone salvage
>The physical components of the drone are quite interesting. Opening it up and taking a closer look would give you a much better idea of how the device works (grants small bonus against Unity drones, and unlocks weapon, armor, and propulsion research options)

and accelerate Farm construction
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>>32212685
More efficient to just have workers cart it around. No need to make aircraft that don't require a ground crew.
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>>32212690
>Human tech interfacing
And maybe farm construction.

>>32212722
Fair enough.
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>>32212685
It would be able to scoot around on its legs, yes, but it would be about as effective as a modern airplane, so very slow and cumbersome.
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>>32212690
>>Boost current research
Human tech interfacing.

>>32212641
> finished in another two days, although it may take longer for a full harvest to come in. (Will produce 500 nutrients per day once complete. Can be upgraded later.)
So that's a lot.

Yet it really will be 500 per day every day once it's completed, and then 5 or 7 days for first crop to reach maturity?
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>>32212765
As long as it can taxi to its runway.
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>>32212690
>>Boost current research (Unity interfacing, Human tech interfacing)
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>>32212690
>Boost current research
Human tech interfacing

>Start new research
Human environment suit
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>>32212825
You can't do both.

You certainly don't want to dedicate just 1 Thinker to such a very slow research as the suit.
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>>32212738

Seconding.

Can we please hide the antenna though? Have some workers dig it into a superficial silo in the rock so it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb?
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>>32212690
Put both on our current research
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>>32212868
But if it's in a silo it will have rock in the way of its reception.

We have a guard, and the air is cloudy so nothing can be seen from orbit. We can bring it into the hive later if we need to.
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>>32212841
I certainly can do both. And getting an idea of what "very slow" means in terms of research timetables appeals to me.
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>>32212920

Just a superficial silo, the amount of rock oughtn't do anything to hinder its signal too bad.

Or shit, disguise it as a mushroom or something but I don't like the idea of it just sitting there.
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>>32212871
Your thinkers complete the human technology interface. Squishy veins and jellyfish brains are what it's made of.
Holographic recordings of human experimentation with biochemical weapons to destroy your people appear in your mind. You're concentrating on these images when alert pheremones spread through the hive. The humans have discovered your base! Artillery bombardment incoming!

>1 burrow to withstand the blast
>2 spawn fighters to destroy the artillery
>3 attempt to relocate your massive shell
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>>32212920
We don't need a signal right now, so it would be fine stuffing it in a silo.
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>>32212969
A ruselord already!

Man this quest is going places.
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>>32212969
>>1
hangon, we really left the radar drone there all this time, without Anti-air?
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>>32212969

Uhh, shit.

>2

>>32212974
We could make it retractable, usually stowed hidden in the silo but pull it out when needbe.
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>>32212969
GET OUTTA HERE FUCKING LIAR
>>32213013
>>32213013
not the same person
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>>32212690
Looks like most are for boosting Human tech interfacing.

>hide antenna
You dedicate several workers to the job. A small pit dug in the rock should offer it a decent place to hide from anyone passing the hive without blocking its reception.

>New drone designs

several frequent and popular proposals
>Small and fast winged drone for air patrols. Uses speed to boost cutting power of blades. Can equip Sting Casters, but larger weapons would prevent it from effective flight.
>Small, winged "sniffer" drone that forgoes defensive measures for increased maneuverability, speed, and greatly enhanced senses including radar and limited echolocation. Cannot defend itself.
>Other
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>>32212969
Nice try with the trip, but no.
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>>32212974
We didn't need a signal before either after we already transmitted the requested thing.

But we left it out all night anyway and listened for updates.

>>32213013
>>32213017
wow you fuckers are dumb. go to bed. even the euro dumbass didn't fall for it.
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>>32212969
Not the same person as REAL OP
!!JXBy03rxbrE - fake

!!tu02dh0DlTY - real OP
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>>32212969
Sure is some low quality bait.
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>>32213031
Well, you say we can boost Olfactory antennae at the cost of other senses.

What if we max that out as far as we can? What's the tradeoff? How many points can we put into Smell?
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>>32213031
Small and faster winged drone with sting Casters - 4 drones
Small winged sniffers - 6

This way we have some defense up and also a REAL early warning system.
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>>32213031
>Small, winged "sniffer" drone that forgoes defensive measures for increased maneuverability, speed, and greatly enhanced senses including radar and limited echolocation. Cannot defend itself.

But can we keep some pouches on it? Sacrifice some agility if we must. If we can get those bionades working then we can have a small bomber wing.
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>>32213076
6 drones*
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>>32213043

>Dumb
I thought it was us experiencing the story inside the Human Disc and getting a chance to influence it. Don't be a twit.
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>>32213031
>Small, winged "sniffer" drone that forgoes defensive measures for increased maneuverability, speed, and greatly enhanced senses including radar and limited echolocation. Cannot defend itself.

A jungle environment means that aerial maneuverability is of comparatively little benefit for combat. I'd rather focus on intel/scouting as our Warriors are entirely adequate for facing threats in my mind.
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>>32213076
we have 3 days of food, and you want to spend something like a days' worth on laying that many man? come on.

let's design things but not lay more than 1 or 2 until we get more scavenged.
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>>32213103
I.. did not do the math correctly on that one. Never mind.
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>>32213076

If you want your proposals to be taken seriously you should probably drop your name.
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>>32213096
>thought it was us experiencing the story inside the Human Disc and getting a chance to influence it
So that... sounds pretty gullible and dumb. It bypasses the whole problem of "humans never met us before" implausibility, but:

It didn't sound anything like QuestDrone's style.

The research had only 1 Thinker on it, no way was it complete, and they never had a prototype laid for them like the Unity interfacing did?

And the username was capitalized wrong, even if you didn't notice the trip.
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>>32213075
The drone would max out as many senses as possible, at the cost of all other aspects. It would be completely unarmed and its carapace would be too poor to withstand most attacks. It would, however, be decently fast and be able to detect most thing coming miles away.
Essentially a very small AWACS.
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>>32213140
Sounds good to me. If their range is good enough, they can map the whole planet.
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>>32213132
ya i'll just go back to the one I use for Warhammer threads.

>>32213140
How small are we talking about here? like.. base ball sized or Nickel sized?
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>>32213140
Maybe we can send a hunter killer drone for defense.
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>>32213140
So one or two of those would enhance worker scavenging if it knew the scents of prey previously caught?
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Why are all namefags so unintelligent?

See
>>32213159
>>32213160
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>>32213164

>Worrying about worker scavenging when we're about to get 500 nutrients a day
plz.
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>>32213159
"hearing/smelling things coming" is not what it takes for "mapping".

also what. did you just join?
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>>32213211
Because they're attention whores.
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>>32213159
Die monster! You don't belong in this world!
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>>32213211
I've found that just about everyone who feels the need to namefag on here when it isn't required has some form of autism.
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>>32213211

It's because only a very particular type of person would want to use a name on an anonymous image board.
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>>32213219
In like 5 or 7 days when you include whatever time it takes to grow the first crop.
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>>32213211
QMs are namefags too, so you can't generalize like that. Not all are like the ones you quoted.
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>>32213159
It's a small AWACS. SMALL.

And there's also the problem of predators flying in the goddamn skies. It would be a waste of our precious resources spawning them.
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>>32213267
spawning them in large numbers to "map the region", yes it would.

as scouts, however, and possibly spies to eavesdrop on the human conversations from a safe distance? or bloodhound trackers?

a few are worthwhile.
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>>32213160
About four to five feet in length.

Sniffer drone could find and track potential prey, keep tabs on potential threats (such as flyers) or serve as airborne scouts.

The flying warriors (I think the anon that proposed it called them wasps?) Would be able to quickly respond to threats, protect sniffers, and engage in hit-and-run attacks on larger, stronger foes, although there low damage output would limit them to the "thousand cuts" strategy in most situations. They would posses a high damage, but high risk dive bomb attack, however.

Sniffer 8 cost, 4 upkeep
Wasp 10 cost, 5 upkeep
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>>32213302
I really wouldn't call it small then per-say. I take back my thoughts on using them. If we can get them smaller then they would be great for scouting and spys.
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>>32213266
QM's have a reason to use a name. Anyone namefagging without a reason acts at best like a high functioning autist.
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>>32213302
I like the Sniffer. Not in love with the Wasp yet, I'd put off laying any of those.

2 Sniffer drones only. max Olfactory. Curious, does this mean it has max eyesight too? any better than normal?
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>>32213302
If we made the Sniffer 2 feet instead, I think you said that was the minimum controllable drone size.... what would we have to give up?
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>>32213345
Yeah, that's what I meant. They're using their name when they need it instead of as a username or some shit.
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>>32213264
This reminds me: how much worker labor is going to be tied up by running the farm, or will Infrastructure handle most of that?
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>>32213348
Vision on this planet is limited by constant fog, rain, or thick spore clouds. It would have normal eyesight, which seems better than humans at least, but it would primarily use its radar and echolocation abilities.
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>>32213302
I would say we make a Sniffer and they should always have at least two "wasps" with them for protection.
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>>32213374
>>32213345
I personally enjoy having a username on any site, but haven't made a real account as of yet on this sense i'm not on it enough. + changing the name at random is kinda cool.

>>32213302
Have we ever gone back to research that drone who was ripped from our control and spawned abunch of alien things? -Quest number 3-
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>>32213344
Four or five feet in length is basically human size. Humans are great for scouting and spies. It's also really small for long-range sensor equipment.
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>>32213429
we have radar? as in radio waves?

>>32213441
i'd rather be cheap right now and trust in its ability to run the fuck away when it detects a threat at a great distance.
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>>32213448

Dear god you're retarded.
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>>32213369
Everything would need to scale down in effectiveness, so it would have a fraction of the range of detection, and gusts of wind would pose a danger to it.
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>>32213448
As long as you're ok with people assuming you're retarded. Because that's the impression namefags like you leave.
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>>32213429

Sounds good to me. Lay two.
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>>32213466
Question: does the algae farm require Worker labor to run? If so, how much? Ballpark.
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>>32213448
>real account
Look at this pleb. Hasn't even upgraded to 4chan Gold yet.
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>>32213419
Infrastructure will provide water as needed, but harvesting at a reliable rate would require one worker per 100 nutrients per day, so with the current size it would need 5 workers to function.
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>>32213504
and we don't know how many days after the 2 days of construction it will take before the first nutrients we get from it?
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>>32213504

That shouldn't be much of an issue.
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>>32213486
Honestly i'm fine with people calling me names over the internet.

However I do wish somebody would answer my question as to wither we have sent drones back to the fungi infected drone that climbed up a shrome and blew up with spores coming out of it.
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>>32213489
I concur.

Their speed and early warning system is all they need to keep themselves safe.

Eavesdropping and scouting drones are go.
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>>32213530
why would we bother answering a namefags question
you aren't smart
you won't do anything useful with the information
go away
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We need to focus more on food. Even if we get the farm up in time it apparently will take some time to get a harvest in. We should get more drones, or at least dedicate our remaining drones to getting food.

>>32213448
Jesus Christ just kill yourself already.
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>>32213530
No, no we haven't. Personally, I want to wait till we're not dealing with the humans. Or at least not babysitting them.
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>>32213584
Thank you for answering me and good point. Hopefully OP adds that to research list.
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>>32213566
>We need to focus more on food

>We should get more drones

pfffhahaaahah. Nice contradiction mate.

The key is dedicating like 10 drones to go out hunting, not laying more first, which costs a bunch of nutrients up front.
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>>32213566

Peeling drones off of the work means that they'll take longer to complete the farm.

How about we eat the beetle and just acquire another one at a later date.
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>>32213614
Probably too late for that particular drone to be particularly informative. We could infect another at basically any time though, if we wanted. I'd want an off-base research centre set up though, just to be safe.
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>>32213525
No, this will be your first attempt at farming it, however in tests it almost immediately started growing like a weed, so your best estimate is around two days to start getting a small amount, and a week or more for the full harvest to come in.

>>32213530
When the body began spewing infectious spores, you elected to quarantine the area and have avoided it since with a very wide berth.

>Produce no new drones
>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)
>Lay 2 wasps (20 nutrients, 10 per day)
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>>32213626

That sounds good to me.

Oh, thread's about to drop off.
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>>32213504
I'd vote for 2 Wasps and 1 sniffer, and then rededicating drones to scavenging for food.

>>32213626
That's that I wanted but anons voted to keep it for study before I got here. It would solve a lot of trouble to just eat it.
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>>32213636
>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)
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>>32213637
>>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)
wait what?

you said it was 8/4 and 10/5 before did you double everything?
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>>32213626
The beetle is, for lack of a better term, the woolly mammoth of the planet. It would offer quite a decent boon, but hunting it would prove quite deadly.
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>>32213637

>Lay 2 sniffers

>Extra
Eat the beetle. We can get another one for research later. Hell, we might even be able to ask the humans for the ones that they killed at their camp.
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>>32213668
Well there's 2 of each.
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>>32213637
>>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)
Okay do this only.

we spies now

>>32213659
we don't need any Wasps. sniffers are good at detecting danger to run from before it's dangerous.
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>>32213637
>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)
Not too worried about them surviving just yet.
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>>32213668
that is total cost, for both.
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>>32213674

That doesn't intimidate this unit of the consensus. We have smarts, technology, and coordination.
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>>32213636
>>32213637
danke

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>>32213659
this for laying

Keep the Beetle, it may be useful we can eat the other's from the camp.
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>>32213618
How much up front do they cost again? I thought they were like 5 each and had a fast hatching time.
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>>32213677

Seconding that.

>>32213717
5 each, 1 (maybe 2?) days to hatch.
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>>32213717
2 days. and we don't have a lot to spare, we will be almost out of food in 3 days if we don't scavenge today or tomorrow and lay nothing.

it makes no sense to solve the food problem by laying more scavengers *now*.
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>>32213637
>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)
>Lay 2 wasps (20 nutrients, 10 per day)
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>>32213637
>Lay two sniffer drones (16 nutrients, 8 per day)

and lastly,
>Eat the beetle
>Save it for research
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You know, we could always ask the humans if they mind if we take the other giant beetles lying around their camp.
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>>32213712
Which could easily wipeout our warriors even with all that.
>>32213753
>Save it for research
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>>32213767
Okay we do that, but save this one. it's more intact and fewer lightning burns. Eat the humans' ones.
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>>32213753
save it for research

> Ask Humans using speaker drone if we may have the dead beetle's from the attack.
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>>32213753
>eat the beetle
>ask humans for one of the dead beetles
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>>32213753
>Save it for research
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>>32213753
>Save it for research
but
> Ask Humans using speaker drone if we may have the dead beetle's from the attack.
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>>32213712
Actual field experience should intimidate you.

We only took down ONE of the behemoths because we rolled a 99. this was after it squashed one of our warriors, our strongest, almost to death.
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>>32213753

Eat the beetle.
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>>32213753
>Save it for research, and ask humans for the smoldering, cooked ones.

I think that will be where we start off next thread, since we are already on page 9.

I'll stick around till 404 for questions, comments, feedback and all that good stuff. Feel free to pitch drone designs still though, I'll just save them for next thread.
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>>32213827
No questions, just thanks for running as usual. I look forward to next time.
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>>32213827
Bio-Generator Drone, is that currently feasible?
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>>32213753

>Eat the beetle
And ask the humans for theirs.

>>32213801
It was 2 warriors versus a mammoth, if we came at it with our full 5 it wouldn't be much of a task to take one down.
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>>32213827
shoot. no actions for this next day?

we tend to stay on page 9 a long time.
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>>32213827

Being on page 9 doesn't mean much on /tg/. It could still be an hour and a half or more before we drop.

You don't run often enough to cheat us of this!
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>>32213858
We had an 83 or something and our warriors still took significant injury.
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>>32213886

Look, if Cro-Magnons can take down mammoths with Atl-atls then we can hunt these fuckers with bio-engineered killing machines.

That aside, I'd wager that it'll give us somewhere in the hundreds of nutrients so losing X many warriors would still turn back a net positive.
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>>32213858
The only reason we succeeded was because we were lucky. Even with our full 5 there is a good chance we'd fail.
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>>32213827
you never described the beetlehemoth as a potential research subject to put Thinkers on. what's it say potential wise?
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>>32213946

Then we'll send ten at it and a swarm of drones. Or we'll drive them off a cliff, or we'll poison their food, or any number of things.
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>>32213927
These things are obviously considerably more formidable than mammoths considering that they can individually crush their way through giant trees and the fact that rifle-equivalent projectiles bounce off of them with frequency.

The mammoth comparison is a rough one given to us by the QM. The QM that also said that hunting these things would be significantly dangerous.
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>>32213856
>Bio-generator
Yes, and technically it is included in every drone. Technically speaking, all of them run on chemical based internal combustion engines that run off nutrients, including many things you have yet to make, such as ships.

>>32213858
Yes, but that was two against one, attacking an entire herd would probably go a little differently. They are herbivores as far as you can tell, but have the temperament of a hippo and the skin of an Abrams tank.

>>32213882
True, but I want to dedicate the end of the thread to drone making so it doesn't hinder quest progression, I just wanted to make sure that if anyone wasn't interested in that they would know what's up.
I would like to run more often, but if I did it would be spur of the moment things and I wouldn't be able to set up a regular schedule.
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>>32213994
>spur of the moment things
with twitter that works fine actually. several other quests don't have a regular schedule like HMQ and SQ. how much advance notice for twitter is 'spur of the moment'?
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>>32213994
Even a couple hours notice on the twitter might be enough. Not really sure what kind of prospective player base you have to run with. Doesn't -feel- huge, but it can be hard to tell.
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>>32213994
these herd creatures do they look more like the avatar herd creatures that ripped the humans to shards at the end of the movie?

Also what is the research information for actually researching these beetles?
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>>32213994
>Yes, but that was two against one, attacking an entire herd would probably go a little differently. They are herbivores as far as you can tell, but have the temperament of a hippo and the skin of an Abrams tank.
If that's the case we could send hundreds at and still fail.
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>>32213827

Can we design new weapons?

I'd like a larger rifle designed for hitting the predators of this planet where it hurts. Preferably the projectile would incorporate metal for penetrative purposes, and also be able to carry a payload (such as acid from the Refinery Drone) that it could deliver.
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>>32213953
Sorry about that. I'll fill out the research fluff next thread, but the gist is super strong armor research. A little tweaking with the genes and some added metal alloy and it would be on par with a heavy armored vehicle. Too heavy for a warrior, but useful for any big siege drone you may build, or to armor space-fairing drones.
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>>32214053

Or for larger warrior drones, or for armoring our hive doors with.
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>>32214036
No need for that. Do it proper predator style. Isolate weaker elements of the herd, old or sick, then take it out with superior firepower.

They don't have armor on their undersides right? We should turn the bionades into land mines.
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>>32214053
Ah. Something to save for later then. Low priority.

Technology is more interesting so far.
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>>32214036
Personally, I assume we'd either try to separate one from the pack and kill it alone or work on those human Zap guns, which seemed to work slightly better than our rifles.
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>>32214082

Exactly, there are any number of ways to take out non-sentient entities that they can't see coming.
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>>32214092
>separate one from the pack
and how would you actually do that? in a way that assures you or it won't draw the attention of all the others?
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>>32214082
If we knew more about how their senses worked, might be able to lay burrows in their paths, strike from underneath.
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>>32214108

Generally predators just wait for one to wander too far.

We have other options at our disposal. Tunneling, using explosions to scatter the herd, using electricity to lure them out or enrage them, developing a big-game-hunter/sniper rifle to pick them off from a distance, etc.
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>>32214119

well that means we research the beetle's sooner then later.
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>>32214134
no, we're not hunting the beetlehemoths.

not with farms coming online.
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>>32214082
Must of those tactics would fail due to them living in the middle of the plains.
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>>32214022
I would try to give at least a few days notice, but I often don't know if I'm working until that same day, and I frequently run two tabletop campaigns on the weekends.
Maybe one day I'll get laid off and can run all week.

>>32214037
Yes.
The major drawback of your species is that inventions are rare when only one in every few billion people are sentient. The thinkers can innovate and reverse engineer like crazy, but they can't for the life of them come up with anything new.

>>32214073
Yup
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>>32214082
>superior firepower
did you see what our firepower even did to their armor?
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>>32214169
Just 6 hours notice is more than enough honestly though.
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>>32214169

So, are you going to mechanically penalize us for our lack of sentient beings...or just let our imaginations run and write it off as our queen being particularly clever/in an unusual situation?
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>>32214156
we have the beetle for research still, + whatever ones the human's will give to us.

>>32214169
Question, Can we spawn more Queen's or something more sentient then thinkers? Maybe a inbetween or do our warrior's have that ability to be upgraded?
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>>32214158
Why? How the plains do anything to mitigate those tactics?

>>32214174
Yes I know. That's why we need more gun. Or traps or what have you. We know they can die, just a matter of making it happen.
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>>32214108
We induce a similar situation to what happened tonight. Set up some sort of electrical generator, preferably on a lower output than the fence. Once they start stampeding we turn it off and allow our warriors to attack one or two of them. Either ones that split off after we turn it off or those that look injured already.
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>>32214169

3-4 hours notice would be fine mang.

>>32214208
Just ignore whoever that is, he'll continue to shoot down legitimate tactics no matter what.
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>>32214205
>sentient
Don't. We don't need that trouble, at all.
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>>32214234

Don't worry, no one will ever listen/vote for his plans.
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>>32214208
Eh, it's not a huge priority. I DO support weapons research in order to face, you know, metal-wearing jerks from space if need be.

I think our next big step should be drastic expansion of our infrastructure though.
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>>32214234
Something like a lesser queen to help pump out babies and lead indepent mining outposts, but loyal as hell and still falls under our control?
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>>32214208
We still have Flyers to worry about and there's nowhere to hide.
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>>32214277
>queen

>but loyal as hell and still falls under our control?
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>>32214254

Well we've actually already got the drastic expansion of our infrastructure bit down because the farms are coming online and the mine will open for business tomorrow.

We're in the transitional stage. After the farm is online we'll need to boost our manpower massively.
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>>32214277

There's no need to have independent mining outposts when we can build psionic relays and have a massive psionic range anyway you fuckwit.
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>>32214310
Fair enough, I forgot about the psionic relays.

We are fucking zerg btw, ZERG
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>>32214277
We can feasibly create drone structures that are specialized to create a single pattern of drone as directed by us. We could also be delegating a lot more drone control to the Thinkers than we are. Part of it is that our environment is so wild and unknown.
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>>32214287
Oh you mean how various creatures have adapted to listen to each other when wary of predators?

Or do you mean the possibility of being eaten?

Either is a fairly legitimate concern but the lack of trees in a plain leads to questions on whether we care.
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>>32214333
Such amazing insights you have.
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>>32214333
Yes, however QuestDrone already stated that any other queens would be fully independent beings, and while we could ally with them as their 'spawner' it could go either way.
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>>32214296
Agreed. A significant workforce should be fun to play with.
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>>32214203
You will need to come up with anything new yourself, and it would take the form of a very hard research project to genetically engineer such a device from scratch.

>>32214205
Technically, yes you can spawn queens, however they are very, very resource intensive to produce, as they go through a larval stage in which they devour everything not bolted down before entering a cocoon. The queen would also be in no way beholden to you, and would be free to peruse her own path in life, make her own hive, colonize her own worlds, and potentially compete with you for resources. She would still recognize you as her mother and would by default be on good terms with you, but it would be more like dealing with a neighboring Feudal lord than a daughter.

>>32214254
Infrastructure (the gooey wall slime every insectoid alien race simply must have) will actually grow into new rooms as you build them. This will slowly increase upkeep cost from the current negligible amount to a potentially decent amount. I will let you know if when you need to start paying for it.

>>32214277
You are thinking of a remote egg sack, and yes I thought up just that to avoid the inevitable arguments over making queens They are essentially organic gene labs that you can transmit new designs to and have them lay remotely, so you can colonize other planets without ferrying millions of drones.
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>>32214369
Thank you for that information and also not calling me a fucktard within 3seconds. Well good luck and night OP.
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>>32214369
>so you can colonize other planets without ferrying millions of drones.

... Somehow I honestly never thought about how we'd actually colonize other planets. Glad you've got that covered Guide!
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>>32214369
Could we alter the Infrastructure so it is powered the planet's electricity?
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>>32214421

Now *that* would be a hard genetic engineering project.
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>>32214421
> so it is powered the planet's electricity?
what?

instead of food?
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>>32214421
You mean, like, natural electricity generation embedded in the Infrastructure?
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>>32214421
Hybrid infrastructure electro-algae? An interesting idea. Not sure if it warrants the effort when we can just farm for the food the infrastructure needs.
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>>32214460
>>32214445
Like the moss.
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>>32214476

Yes, like the moss.
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>>32214476
That is hardly necessary, since we FARM the moss.

So effectively feeding it nutrients from our farm is doing so. If you regard the hive as a single superorganism, it is feeding on electricity.
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>>32214335
Indeed. Thinkers can boost the effectiveness of drones by micromanaging their activities for greater efficiency.
If you control a drone, it has no effects.
If you and a thinker control a drone, it gets a buff.
If only a thinker controls a drone, it gets a penalty.
These apply to all rolls for any action taken by the drone.

>>32214361
I'm thinking on modeling it after Evil Genius, so you can just set and forget your workforce. I want to avoid time consuming micromanagement if it's possible.

>>32214395
All are welcome, and I know it's late.

>>32214421
Well, technically it is, in the same way that all things on Earth are powered by the sun in a non-direct way. (sun feeds plants, plants eaten, animal dies and fossilizes, becomes oil, ect.) Same thing, planet's electrical field feeds the algae, the algae feeds the hive.
I will say that cutting out the middle man is possible, but you would need to put a lot more research into it. Once you have had time to observe the algae as it grows in your farm you will understand more of how it works. It may not be cost effective though, since you can always expand the farm.
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>>32213429
>radar and echolocation abilities.
I asked about this--

radar? as in radio waves. we have radio transmitters in regular drones like that?
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>>32214537
Yes. Your recent dissection of the flyer actually helped with its implementation, as it hunts via radar.
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>>32214537

Well in a super-specialized scout we would.
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>>32214557
I thought it hunted via sonar. Thread 1 mentioned "infrasonic".

But the it noticed our radio transmissions.
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>>32214623
One of the humans explicitly mentions their radio sensitivity.
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>>32214623
Did I? If I did I was mistaken in my word use.
Honestly, it's one of the least unique animals on the planet, but yes, it hunts by making short, rapid radio bursts and using it like radar. It isn't the most effective radar out there, but it can detect movement rather well. It seems to have trouble distinguishing large objects from large groups of small objects, however. That or it just stays away from groups regardless and only targets lone prey.


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Human lightning weaponry
On a wasp
Used to hunt those big herbivores
They wouldn't even be able to fight back
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>>32214709

So could you give us a basic lowdown on our tech levels in basic things?

Like what are our specialties.

It seems that our warrior's armor is decent when we invest metals into them, but that they're really just meant to be en-masse combatants (which, of course, makes sense). We've only learned of 3 types of ranged weapons we have access to so I can surmise that ranged weaponry isn't really our specialty either...

What is traditional warfare like on the homeworld? Just hordes of bugs? How much do hives make use of tactics?

Do we have any stealth technology? I like the idea of a stealth/assassination drone designed to...be stealthy and has poison weapons and such.

Exactly how good are our sensors? Just because we can make an olfactory unit that can smell everything for miles doesn't mean it can make sense of all that info.

What sort of power systems do we use? Entirely biochemical? What's our experience with electricity? To what extent to we hybridize technology and biology?

etc.
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>>32214957
If we can fit enough juice in it to make it fire enough rounds for a small swarm to kill them, then it would totally work.
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>>32215030

A few strikes from the humans was enough to kill them. We could honestly just make a flying drone and let it use the pistol we recovered to kill a few if we felt like it.
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>>32215019
Hive-on-Hive warfare in space would likely be similar to other space combat. Hit the enemy first and hard enough to prevent them from hitting you, with the go-to weapon being the railgun, and the go-to plan B being swarms of fighter drones. On the ground it would have a lot more trench warfare, with millions upon millions of warriors smashing into each other and firing off weapons like madmen.

Standard tactics would typically involve bombarding any relay sites from orbit, while queens themselves would usually be left targeted both because they would likely be a blood relation and because it would decrease the chance of another hive targeting them directly out of reprisal. If a planet invasion was successful there would be no relays to command the drones, and any thinkers would be incredibly inefficient at mounting a defense by themselves. If relays were properly protected the battle could quickly become a meat grinder.

Your sensors are quite effective, but not infallible. If a sniffer knows what its looking for it is much more effective, while if set on a general patrol it may miss something in the massive frenzied mess of conflicting signals.

>>32215046
Without knowing proper weapon maintenance I would advise against it. The equivalent of a weapon jam for a CIP pistol could be rather unpleasant. Once you reverse engineer it, however, you will be able to manufacture them at will. You also have the Unity drone's weapons to study.
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>>32215201
>While queens themselves would usually be left UNtargeted.
my bad.
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>>32215201

So no infrared-dampening chitin mixtures and stuff like that for stealth, eh?
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>>32215251
No, not yet anyway.
Your kind's history with invention is few and far between, but once one is made it is almost instantly reverse engineered across the entire species. While you may have fewer inventions of your own, you will be able to quickly pick up just about any tech you can find and innovate it to suit your needs.
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>>32215287

Nifty. Also, you didn't address cybernetics.

Are you going to allow us to do anything with our physiologies, or are we going to need no manufacture actual CIP pistols out of metal and grease?
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>>32215321
They will be metal heavy just by necessity, but not fully mechanical. It works by ionizing the target with an invisible and harmless beam, and then releasing a bolt of plasma. Essentially replicating a natural lightning strike and directing it at a target. There is a chance of it leaping to other, unintended targets if it offers the path of least resistance, like when Lee shot up the tree.

When you start producing reverse engineered weapons they will be partially organic like your others, and can be grafted to warriors in whatever configuration you wish.
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>>32215321

I just want to know if they're a thing, really. irl there are just some things biology just isn't suited to as well as 'traditional' tech. It would make sense either for [the name of our race] to have developed cybernetics for those applications, or for them to have avoided them or stuck with biology for whatever reasons.
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>>32215381
Historically, cybernetics is a rare thing. I have no doubt you will be breaking new ground in that field as you uncover new tech. As a rule though, whatever can be made with organic materials is. Cybernetics just picks up the slack.
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>>32215377
So it's an electrolaser?
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>>32215409
pretty much. It has a low range and accuracy but high damage.
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>>32215377
>partially organic

can we make them fully organic?
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>>32215508

Why would we really want to?
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>>32215541
in case we have a shortage of metals
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>>32215508
They require metals for critical components. Where you draw the line between organic and mechanical is up to you, though. Even your warriors are partially made of metal, and you could argue that biotech isn't any different than really advanced nanotech. Definitions on what is and isn't a machine or not start to break down when dealing with genetic engineering.
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>>32215561

Nice to see a QM who knows that.

Your technobabble is strong, what's your job?
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>>32215594
Shipping. Trying to get in real estate.
I'm just a massive sci-fi buff, and love technobabble that sounds like it means something, especially if it's almost true.
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>>32215508
You really couldn't do that without playing hell with effectiveness. Different materials simply have different tolerances and properties.
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>>32215642

A pity space operas aren't as popular as they used to be, huh?
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>>32215642
How much do we know? Or, rather, how many textbooks of our species history and knowledge is crammed into the Queen's brain?

And the idea of space ships, fighters, and advanced technology being operated by insect-intelligent, well, insects, who are following orders from immobile dog-brained things amuses me.
It reminds me of the book Blindsight, in a way. The drones seemingly lack any understanding of what they're doing other than basic cause and effect, and the BugAutists can't innovate to save their lives.
Really, without a queen the entire thing just looks like the blind leading the blind.
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>>32215706
Not just space opera, but that very special place between space opera and hard sci fi where everything still makes sense so long as you don't have a Phd in physics, but Einstein is told to go fuck himself because FTL is just too damn cool.

The Star Carrier series hit the nail on the head with this, and his math is stronger than mine will ever be.

>>32215734
Or a DMV.
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>>32215734
Also, as to what you know of your past. You have the general overview of how things work, but no exact details. You know how to make a drone with wings, but not who the first queen to make them was. You know how to make a ship, but not when they were first invented.
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>>32215765
>Star Carrier
Well looks like I got a new series to read. Any other ones you'd recommend?
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>>32215765
>or a DMV
So, so true.

What does a Thinker look like? A larva-looking creature without any legs?

>>32215788
Genetic memory. Neat.
Do we know how any of the space-age tech we'll soon build works (beyond basic physics)?
Or is it more like blueprints and less like true knowledge?
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>>32215734
Given the human understanding of social interactions within a hierarchy, it would look that way.

But the reality for a eusocial insect species is much more interesting, and much less hierarchical. They may not share thoughts, but in their instincts and pheromonal method of communication allow them to coordinate massive projects, all without the need of a leader. One seemingly insignificant intelligence becomes an intelligence to rival a mammals, in their case. Bridges, life rafts, ventilation systems demolition, all a matter of a fast acting chemical democracy.

The term 'queen' for the reproductive caste is a bit of a misnomer, really.
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>>32215868

Although in our case, not so much a misnomer at all.
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>>32215825
Old Man's War is another favorite. It's like if somebody home-brewed Eclipse Phase into Starship Troopers and set it in the Distant Worlds universe.
Foundation series is great, as is anything by Azimov ever, but he's usually more on the space opera side of things. I would say the "sweet spot" is what you would get from a fusion of Azimov and Clarke.
And of course the obligatory Ender's Game

>>32215833
I picture a thinker looking kinda like a head-sized beetle. It's legs are actually noodly appendages that serve as biological data cables that it uses to plug into things it needs to control, like hive infrastructure or relays.

You know how it all works, you're just not sure how you know.

>>32215868
A lot of it isn't all that different from nature. The nomadic Arrow ants will assemble themselves into bridges, rafts, ladders, and each day will make a shelter out of interlocking ants to protect the queen, who commands it all through complex lines of chemical bonds handed down a ladder of drones. If the line is broken, the ants enter total chaos, a lot like your own drones.
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>>32215892
True enough. But it (decision making by means of psychic consensus) could be an option in the future, should the 'hive-mind' with a queen as the psionic anchor become troublesome.

But the need for something like that, if it was needed at all, would be far off.
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>>32215939
Man the Foundation series was great... Anyway thanks QD.
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>>32215939
>head sized beetle
Huh, smaller than I thought.
Can we make bigger Thinkers for greater.. thinking?
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>>32215974

Yeah, I disregard the 2 additional books he wrote later though. They get kinda...yeah.
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>>32215985

I think that among or basic units the Thinker is the only one we can't really modify.
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>>32215999
We can modify it. We just need to make a shower and a toilet.
Then think long and hard.
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>>32215985
Bigger brains don't always mean smarter. It's entire body is composed of a brain, and it needs to be fed direct nutrients because it lacks a proper digestive system.

>>32215974
Thank you for playing, anon.



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