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>"Luciana isn't with you two?" Sir Gregory asks. "She was going on yesterday about how much she was looking forward to sitting in on my so-called wonderful lectures, too..."
>"Melanie didn't tell you?" Marianne turns to him. "Reinhold kept her up last night so she ended up oversleeping."
>"...what."

>That look in his eyes... you never ever wanted that to be directed at you.


"What?" you reply innocently.
"Reinhold," Sir Gregory's voice rumbles, "you better not have-"

And just as you're trying to regain your ability to form coherent sentences in order to explain yourself, Marianne speaks up.

"It wasn't what you're imagining," the Princess says guiltily. "I should have known better than to make that kind of joke around you to begin with," she mumbles.
"...a joke?" Sir Gregory turns to her, freeing you from his deathglare.
"I don't know if you heard about that exercise in gluttony that Sir Vincent took part in last night,"
"Nicolette told me all about that."
"Very well," she sighs. "Anyways, Reinhold and Luciana bet on the victor, and Luciana lost. The conditions were that the loser has to draw a picture of the winner from memory, and I suppose that she spent all night trying working on her drawing."

As Marianne's words fully process in his mind, Sir Gregory covers his eyes with his hand and lets out a long, exasperated growl.

"Haven't even been back home for a full day and you're already doing shit specifically to piss me off..." he grumbles.


>apologize for ruining his mood so early in the morning
>marianne's the one who should be apologizing, you're an innocent victim here.

>>32558514
".... home sweet home?"

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>>32558473
>danger
>>32558514
"Welcome back?"

>>32558514
>apologize for ruining his mood so early in the morning
Someone better apologize to Greggy, and it's better not to leave it up to chance

>>32558514
>>apologize for ruining his mood so early in the morning

>>32558514
>apologize for ruining his mood so early in the morning
yeah, let's be serious for a second here

>>32558514
while mari's the one who SHOULD apologize, i get the feeling it's in our best interest to be the one to do it

>>32558514
>>apologize for ruining his mood so early in the morning
A happy Marianne means less hassle for Reinhold, and a less irritated Gregory means he's going to be less inclined to relieve it by going to bother Nicolette. It's in everyone's best interest to try and keep this from getting out of control.

And besides, it's not like we're ENTIRELY blameless. We both made our slightly tasteless jokes. It's cool. We're even.

so will anyone else be joining in on pgq exercises today?

>>32558576
>"Welcome back?"
This too.

>>32558514
>>marianne's the one who should be apologizing, you're an innocent victim here.

Sure is a lot of spinelessness in here

>>32558760
>We both made our slightly tasteless jokes. It's cool. We're even.
we made a halberd joke that all of 3 or 4 people understand that left everyone else that heard it confused
mari very well may have gotten us killed
that's not even

honestly i'd like if the whole day ended up with rein and mari constantly trying to embarrass/mock one another

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>>32558514
>>apologize for ruining his mood so early in the morning

Yeah.

>>32558760
>And besides, it's not like we're ENTIRELY blameless. We both made our slightly tasteless jokes. It's cool. We're even.
That and we are still responsible for keeping the girl up all night...

...wait, Marianne suggested that on her own.

Anyway, suck it up and apologize, I guess

>>32558576
Seconding

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>writing

While you're still in panicmode due to what happened, you do feel kind of guilty... and though it DEFINITELY wasn't your fault, there's no telling if Marianne cares enough to try and apologize to him for causing this whole stupid situation.

"Umm..." you mumble, "sorry for getting you all mad like this so early in the morning."
"It's nothing that YOU need to apologize for," Sir Gregory replies before turning to glare at Marianne. "It seems that certain people just like to try and get a rise out of me."


>[1/?]

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>>32559479

"I didn't mean to-" Marianne stammers.
"Whatever, let's just drop it," Sir Gregory replies, rolling his eyes as he walks over to the corner of the room and reaches for a bag that's sitting on a table. He then rifles through it for a few second before pulling out a dull metal collar. "Got any idea what this thing is?" he asks.

While you've definitely seen that kind of thing before, but you're -pretty- sure that it wasn't being used properly...

>[2/?]

>>32559841
"It's a sex toy of some sort"

>>32559841
"It's a metal collar"

>>32559841
"A toy for sailors who have been very naughty?"

>>32559841
"hey, someone gave me a collar like this a long time ago"

>>32559841
I grew up in a brothel, you don't want me to answer that.

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>>32559841
PTSD flashback imminent...

If PGQ was a full-fledged anime with a full voice cast who would you want to voice who for the dub?

So far, I've got:
>John DiMaggio - King Thierri (It's AQUAMAN, what do you expect?)
>Tiffany Grant - Marianne (Had some strong Asuka vibes in the early threads)
>Jennifer Hale - Nicolette (I keep picturing her as a much more hot-blooded femshep)
>Steve Blum - Sir Gregory (It was iffy in the beginning, but when he was being adorable with Elena it stuck)
>Kevin Michael Richardson - Sir Vincent (He's a big guy. He needs a big voice without a lot of ham)
>Spike Spencer - Prince Emilio (You can't tell me he doesn't speak like Shinji in a few scenes)
>Marÿke Hendrikse - Karel (With her range, she could pull off having a 14-15 year old girl sound like a 14-15 year old boy)
>Tabitha St. Germain - Melanie (only because she has the potential to go full Roberta if something happens to Nico)

>>32559917
This. This so many times.

>>32559934
>dub
nope.

>>32559917
This.

>>32559917
yep

>>32559934
>Jennifer Hale - Nicolette (I keep picturing her as a much more hot-blooded femshep)
Yes

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>>32559841
>>32559917
yus

>>32560011
>>32559982
>>32559958
>>32559938
I never realized how unsettling that little red dot in the clover is until now.

>>32559917
so much this!

>>32560052
>little red dot in the clover
what?

>>32560109
When you have a page set to auto update and someone replies to you the little 4chan logo gets a red dot in it
Its very unsettling.

>>32559841
>[3/3]
"That's one of the collars that we put on dangerous prisoners so that they can't use magic, right?" Marianne asks.
"Yup, that'd be exactly it," Sir Gregory replies. "Stick one of these things on someone and their ability to Invoke spells is removed."
"So, umm..." you speak up in an attempt to shake away the image of -certain things- that you were imagining, "...what made you decide to show it to us?"
"Eh, it's just a visual aid," he replies, twirling the collar around on one finger.


>ask him how that thing's supposed to make you unable to use magic
>keep quiet for now, he probably has some kind of point to make

>>32560198
>keep quiet for now, he probably has some kind of point to make
This. Sir Gregory doesn't really like people disrupting his pace.

>>32560198
>>ask him how that thing's supposed to make you unable to use magic

>>32560198
>keep quiet for now, he probably has some kind of point to make

>>32560198
>keep quiet for now, he probably has some kind of point to make

>>32560198
>keep quiet for now, he probably has some kind of point to make
just listen to our teacher

>>32560198
>ask him how that thing's supposed to make you unable to use magic

"That's way different from the ones they used at the brothel... How does it work?"

>>32560198
>>keep quiet for now, he probably has some kind of point to make
then once he finishes explaining we casually think out loud "none of the whores ever explained that to me"

>>32560198
We should probably keep quiet until he's made his point, but after the lesson it might be nice to ask him how the collars work.

If there's some sort of magic on them that prevents people wearing it from using Script, it might be plausible to use a bola or something with that same magic to instantly and non-lethally disable enemy mages from a distance. Unless it's a matter of being around their neck, which makes that totally impractical.

Do they stop Devil Children? Sealed King wielders? Would they stop a Sealed King wielder if the collar was placed on the Sealed King instead? Do they suppress magic in general, (which would make it plausible to use for decontaminating non-human animals from crystalline parasite infestation) or just use of Script?

We don't ACTUALLY need to know most of this, but it's interesting speculation material.

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>writing

>>32560412
>Would they stop a Sealed King wielder if the collar was placed on the Sealed King instead?
depends on if they're a dom or a sub

>We don't ACTUALLY need to know most of this
a bodyguard learning how to stop people from magicing isn't important?

>>32560412
Don't know if i'm remembering right but the king knows an anti magic spell doesn't he?

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>>32560198
Ooooooh, is that for Luciana?

>>32560539
He knows axe.

So yes.

>>32560539
only spell aquaman knows is fragment tomahawk

>>32560569
>>32560572
Huh.......then what the fuck was i think about.

>>32560539
If by "anti-magic spell" you mean "axe to the skull" then yes.

The wizard cannot cast if you disable his brain.

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>>32560593
the touman

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You're really curious as to how exactly that thing's supposed to work... but it's probably best not to interrupt him right now, you've already pushed your luck enough as it is.

Or rather, -Marianne- pushed your luck. But either way, you decide to keep quiet for now.

"And now..." Sir Gregory places the collar on the desk in front of him before heading back over to the bag that he removed it from. "...any idea what this right here is?"

He then brings out what looks like another collar, but this one's a lot more... clean looking? And VERY familiar-looking. What the hell.


>say what's on your mind
>try not to embarrass yourself

>>32560785
>look uncomfortable
>say nothing

>>32560785
>say what's on your mind

>>32560785
> Say what's on your mind
"That one is for very naughty sailors in need of a good spanking"

>>32560785
>Eye twitching intensifies

>>32560785
>>say what's on your mind

>>32560785
>try not to embarrass yourself

>>32560785
>>say what's on your mind

>>32560785
>>say what's on your mind
oh god yes

>>32560785
I'll repeat my earlier suggestion.
I grew up in a brothel, you don't want me to answer that.

Rolled 9, 9 = 18

>>32560785
>try not to embarrass yourself
>fail and
>say what's on your mind

>>32560785
>>say what's on your mind

>>32560785
>say what's on your mind

>>32560785
>say what's on your mind

>>32560785
"Sir Gregory, I'm sorry, but I fail to see how entering your magical realm is relevant to history and politics."

>>32560785
>PTSD

>>32560785

I refer to my earlier post
>>32559922

>>32560785
>say what's on your mind
childhood trauma go

>writing

>>32560901
I support this.

No I don't, please don't pick this.

>>32560785
"My imagination runs wild"

>>32560785
>"I'm pretty sure it's not what I think it is"

"I grew up in a brothel," you say, "and that definitely looks like one of the collars that they, uh..."
"Wh- what!?" Marianne gasps. "S- Sir Gregory, why in the would would you have something like-" she stammers, looking at him with an expression of pure disgust.
"It ain't like that," Sir Gregory rolls his eyes. "Though I guess I really shouldn't be surprised that those sick fucks modeled these things after whore shit..." he sighs.

Ignoring Marianne's obvious distress, he then places the two collars down on the desk in front of him.

"This's one of our prisoner collars," he says, pointing to the one that he brought out first, "and this one's a slave collar that thy use in Ancellotta. We got it off a refugee that washed up in a riverside town way out in the boonies."

>[1/?]

>>32561302
>[2/2]
This brings up even more concerns to mind, but you decide to keep them to yourself. For now, at least.

"A... a slave collar?" Marianne shrinks back in her seat.
"Yup," he nods. "And just like our prisoner collars, they're made out of Vilerinite so it's not possible to cast spells when wearing it. That's how they've managed to avoid a magic-based slave revolt."
"So that's how..."

You're not exactly sure how you feel about this, but Marianne definitely seems to be shaken up.

"...so, any questions before I go on to the main point about how fucked up all of this is?" Sir Gregory asks.

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>>32561595

So I'm guessing it just kills the Script before it even materializes?

The one that'd come up off the top of my head is if a revolt happens, which I'm guessing what most of this lesson will be about.

>>32561595
so this vilerinite stuff keeps people from using magic? will it work on contractors, demon children, sealed king wielders, dragons or elementals and just how much is needed to stop the magic?
could we use it's powder to make some type of anti magic weapon by covering them with it like a smashed bag of flour?
would jamming a small knife of the stuff into their lung cancel out healing magic used on them?

>>32561725
nope, works on normal people. of the main cast, it'll only work on Reinhold

>>32561595

By all means, lets hear the main point.

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found this arch
thought of you

>>32561595
Main point please...

>>32561595
Rattling off questions about all of the gruesome combat implications might be a little much given how squeamish this topic is making Marianne to begin with. If it's possible to ask the more specific things in private, we should endeavor to do so.

That said, things that we might be able to ask in public:
What sorts of magic does the material stop?

Where does this stuff actually come from?

Is being on the neck important in some way, or...
And stuff that we'd be better served asking in private:
...is the material used simply as collars just to prevent people from hacking off the limb it's on and regenerating it later?

Is it practical to use the material offensively in a form other than as an accessory? (A thrown weapon, lingering effects as a bladed weapon, etc.)

>>32561595
Nah, just let him move on

i'm
>>32561725
and i agree with
>>32561873
limit questions right now to non combat stuff

>>32561595
So Arch slaves wash up on our shores?

Hmmm that story sounds.........familiar

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>writing

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>>32561873

>Where does this stuff actually come from?

This is a pretty good question too. The one about using the material offensively in a form other than an accessory is a pretty good question too, though I would argue that could be a question that would be safe to ask while Marianne is here (it is her lessons, after all).

remember when reinhold had a collar in the op

>>32561595
"So... You are either looking for, or have a counter to vilernite and are looking or a way to use it against Ancellotta via their slaves?

>>32561302
why in the would would you have?

>>32562116
>Sir Gregroy
HA HA! TIME FOR REDOS!

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"Those collars, they keep people from using magic, right?" you ask.
"Yeah, I just got done telling you that," Sir Gregory replies.
"Would it work on Contractors or Devil Children too? Or a Sealed King holder?"

It definitely can't hurt to learn more about this stuff, after all.

"It'll block them from using magic that involves spoken spells," Sir Gregory says, "but it doesn't affect their natural abilities to use their elements," he shrugs. "Basically, if you loop this stuff around someone, they can still conceptualize Script just fine but can't actually invoke anything. So any attempts to cast a spell while wearing one of these collars pretty much just amounts to making graffiti in the air."

"Where does it even come from?" you ask. It seems like this stuff would have pretty high demand, after all.


>[1/?]

>>32562179

"Vilerinite, the shit that these things are made out of," Sir Gregory says as he taps the prisoner collar with his finger, "is actually Ancellotta's main export."
"It's the only reason that country isn't in complete financial ruin," Marianne chimes in.
"Yeah, the fuckers live on a huge deposit of the stuff, and its properties make it exceptionally difficult to create using magic," he sighs. "So they get money exporting this shit to other countries, thus countering all the profits they lose from the blockades that Marconetti and Krassato have at their borders."

Well that explains how they manage to not starve despite being surrounded by countries that hate them...

>[2/?]

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What if people could store mana and magic bullshit in those symbiotic crystal things? That could make it easier to kill them all, maybe?

>>32562379
they can die from overcharge them with mana

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>>32562379
>pumping magic into a symbiot in a setting where too much magic makes things sentient
we see no possible way this could go wrong

>>32562421
I'm still waiting for us to walk in on Karel going "Oh god my bracelet ate all of these swords and weapons, in this armory, what are we going to do?" and we just chuck our sword at it.

>>32562447
bracelets can only eat specially treated metal, and i doubt nik is going to pre treat the whole armory since his goal is to attain immortality by combining them with people

>>32562321

"And back to the main point at hand," Sir Gregory says as he picks up the slave collar, "most magical researchers believe that Vilerinite works because anything placed within a piece of it that's in a closed loop is considered as 'part of it' by the world itself."
"Huh? The world?" you're kind of confused by this.
"I thought that Sylvie was teaching you magic, didn't she explain that stuff to you?" he doesn't even seem to be annoyed with you, just kind of surprised that you're not familiar with what he's talking about. "...meh, I'll explain that to you later."

Once again the fact that you had no real education prior to coming here is made all too apparent.


>[3/?]

>>32562515
Once again the fact that you had no real education prior to coming here is made all too apparent.

Next day off Reinhold really just needs to go to town and sit in on a kindergarten class. It may end up being useful.... If nothing else when it's coloring time we can practice drawing

>>32562515
So... What? Giant vilernite web cannons? Wrapping vilernite foil/wire around houses, palaces, even entire countries?
Vilernite dust-clouds?

>>32562515
iirc it was mentioned somewhere but not in to much detail

>>32562562
We learned that the world has opinions when someone was explaining sealed kings to us. They mentioned that the world didn't consider theft as providing ownership.

>>32562558
Closed loop only, dust won't work.
And wire's too thin to actually work, though a net cannon would definitely be effective.

It's too rare to really be practical in that useage, but yeah.


>>32562562

I think I mentioned it offhand during the first explaination of Sealed Kings waaaaaaay back in the beginning of the Quest. I'm surprised that anyone actually remembered it.

>>32562558
god damn it why can't i find that pic of earth with a giant artificial ring around it attached to giant engines

>>32562515
This metal sounds like a dick, how many Vilerinite-based Metal Elementals are out there?

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>>32562606
>Vilernite chain-shots for use on high-value targets
Nullifies and eliminates with a bang!

>>32562515

"So basically, put the slave collar on someone and the world considers them to be a part of the collar, which is an object. And while literal objects like Sealed Kings are able to conceptualize spells just fine, the world doesn't recognize them as capable of Invocation."
"I already knew all of that though," Marianne says. "Were you explaining that for Reinhold's benefit, or was there an actual point to this?"
"I was just about to get to that," he rolls his eyes.

Yeah, he's still mad at her.


>[4/?]

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>>32562647
>Vilerinite-based Metal Elemental

>finally learn stone body
>turns us metal due to affinity
>because of genetic lottery turn into walking vilerinite
>wrap arms around bad guy
>suplex an elemental

>>32562690
>[5/5]

"Another of the world's... 'views,' as they're called, is that one living thing can't own another. Plants, animals, nothing of the sort," Sir Gregory explains.
"...so the world doesn't recognize someone as being able to own a pet dog or something? Or Elena's rabbit?" you ask.
"Nope," he shakes his head. "It's seen different by people, of course, but not by the world itself."
"Huh."
"So you can't own another living thing... but looping a piece of Vilerinite around a living thing makes the world see it as part of that same metal... do you understand what I'm getting at here?"


>yes
>no

>>32562776
>no
<shirou>Explain further</shirou>

>>32562776
>yes

>>32562776
>>no

>>32562776

So that's how you can own slaves, they are not seen as living.

Some rules gymnastics there.

>>32562776
So the world recognizes Ancellotta's slave trade as legitimate ownership? Yeah, that IS fucked up.

>>32562776
>yes

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>>32562776

Explain further.

>>32562776
i don't but rein might, anyone care to explain?

>>32562776
>yes

>>32562776
>yes
So they're tricking the world into acknowledging their slaves as owned objects via Vilerinite.

Aside from being bad and wrong, what does that allow them to do that they couldn't do otherwise?

>>32562844
when looped by vilerinite the world views you as vilerinite

>>32562815
More like in wrapping the person in it, they are hiding said person from the world. It's basically making it as if the person doesn't exist in the world, to an extent...I think

>>32562776
>>yes

>>32562776
yes

>>32562776
>You make the slaves objects instead of people in the eyes of the world?

>>32562866
>Aside from being bad and wrong, what does that allow them to do that they couldn't do otherwise?
Back in thread 113:

>"Yes..." Agnes sighs. "...and Celestino or Thierri couldn't confiscate Setsuranka from him even if they wanted to, as he's been recognized as her master. There's a few spells out there that can recall a named object to its user's hand, and the world itself doesn't recognize theft as a valid change in ownership."

So if the world really IS tricked into viewing slaves as inanimate objects, if these spells work on the Vilerinite collars, it should return the slaves as well.

Which makes successful escape next to impossible if the slaver is attentive, or if the escapee doesn't find a way to get their collar removed before the slaver notices they're missing.

>writing

>>32562963
Hey Arch, if anything in the circle is cut off from the World's "gaze", does that mean you could get away with things that the world does not normally permit within a circle other than owning living beings?

>>32562776
>"So they're pragmatists. They think that changing the 'world's view' of a person from living being to 'metal object' justifies owning that person as property?"

>>32563037

Like penetrating a sanctuary spell for instance?

>>32563037
>could get away with things that the world does not normally permit
I had considered whether wearing a Vilerinite ring would allow you to get through a Sanctuary (which is also enforced by the will of the world by determining governing intent).

But that probably isn't the case seeing as a Sanctuary spell has been mentioned to stop fired arrows and other inanimate objects so long as the intent behind those objects entering the field is a harmful one.

Crystal parasites aren't viewed as "alive" by the world either, which makes me think it might be worth investigating whether Vilerinite can be treated for consumption.

>>32563037
>>32563089
No, a person wearing vilerinite would still be blocked if they tried to enter an area protected by Sanctuary.

They'd just be seen as a "hostile projectile" instead of a "hostile lifeform."

>>32563124
is it wrong that I think that sounds awesome?
"You are not just a person, your a god damn projectile."
Also is the world god? Is the planet our higher power?

>>32563124
Wait, this means this can be used as a way to avoid Arnaud's life-force sense... Right?

>>32563161
The world is not God
The world was created by God, and is seen by most religions as carrying out God's will.
This doesn't keep certain people from worshipping the world itself as a god, though.

Guys. If we could make ourselves an object in the eyes of the world, without losing our ability to preform magic, Marianne could summon us whenever she's in danger.

>>32563192
really want to do this now, especially in the forever alone route
get a ring and only take it off when magic is needed, using bracelet to take it off so we don't even need to use our hands

>>32563192
>>32563228
"I'm just a sword"-route Unlocked

>>32563228
what forever alone route?

"They're using those collars to make the world see their slaves as objects instead of people?" you ask.
"And since that metal blocks the usage of magic, the people they enslave have no way to remove the collars on their own," Marianne mumbles.
"That's pretty much it," Sir Gregory replies. "They use this loophole to make themselves feel better about enslaving others, claiming that it's God's will or some such bullshit," he scoffs. "And there're a few spells out there that are able to recall an object to its owner's side, one of the conditions of which being that said object has a name..."
"So they can catch an escaped slave by using their name in the spell as long as they're wearing the collar?" you ask.
"No, it works on the collar itself," he shakes his head. "Each one has its own unique 'name' from what I understand, and since the slave's considered as part of the collar instead of the reverse..."
"Call the collar back and the slave's brought back as well," Marianne scowls. "Disgusting."

>[1/?]

>>32563228
>Marianne is being attacked by some jackass
>Summons Reinhold while he's in the "act"
>pic related
>Marianne scarred for life
>Reinhold has mental breakdown
>attacker feels too awkward to keep up the attack and goes home.
Another day at the office

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>>32563288
I would forget the pic...
also I finally get to use this.

>>32563192
We could probably sneak around the castle without Arnaud noticing...

Oooh, the possibilities of being just an 'object'STOP, LUCIANA, PLEASE!

>>32563284

Yo, there's gotta be a naming theme for this.

>>32563283
the one where we don't go for any girl kind of like what was being set up before we suddenly went for luci because rein is understandably fucked up when it comes to relationships

also, not trying to say luci sucks, i like her. but rein told basically everyone, including luci, that he wasn't ready or looking for a relationship with anyone, and i honestly think an all route crush would have been more in character

>>32563288
>>32563309
>Implying Reinhold faps

>>32563183
He doesn't sense lifeforce, so no.
it doesn't work on inanimate objects, though[/spoiler[

>>32563288
>implying rein will ever have sex

>>32563323
rein has plenty of practice being just an obect

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>>32563284
This... This can bring instantaneous teleportation to the common masses! It'd totally revolutionize mass transit and logistics!

An entire army could be summoned and mustered right at, or within, the border of a country to be invaded

>>32563340
...how do you think Reinhold shatters blades with one arm? (I'll give you a hint, he only does so many pushups every morning)

>>32563421

Yeah, but at cost of compromising your fighters' usefulness... unless they were able to quickly cast the collar away.

Oh does it have to be collar though? Wouldn't bracelet suffice?

>>32563421
I feel like slave-collar based transit won't go over well with the general populace.

>>32563421
>>32563448
There are other conditions beside needing a name in order to summon an object that make calling entire armies forth unfeasable.
Not to mention the cost of casting the spell itself.

>>32563457
Just make teleportation cylinders with doors on them

>>32563465
If we mixed our bracelet with Vilerinite, could we just change it's shape to not form a full circle around our arm as an off/on switch?
We'll be available for Marianne to summon while still not being too weak to spells targeting objects.

>>32563511
No

this is why i love /tg/
we discover a new metal and not only do we try to use it to turn ourselves into a summonable item, but we try to create a mass transit teleportation system

>>32563524
I don't think you have any authority on the subject

>>32563554
Neither do you, scrub

Your plan is shit

>>32563284
>[2/2]

"That's why it's so rare for slaves to actually escape from that hellhole," Sir Gregory says. "And since it works on the literal laws of the world itself, their royal family twists religion into it to keep the lower classes pacified about their fucked-up way of doing things."

Ancellotta already sounded like a horrible place to begin with, but learning all of this just made it seem several times worse.

Sir Gregory then spends the next two hours(!) going over the specifics of their Vilerinite trade and the different countries that they export to, also mentioning that both Marconetti and Granache refuse to trade with any country that does business with them (and naturally, they both get their own supply of the ore from elsewhere).

Though the deeper details just kind of fly over your head, you're able to understand the general idea of what he's talking about.. Thankfully.

"And that's it for today," Sir Gregory says as he puts away the collars. "Before I go to take care of Elena and the others' preparations, was there anything that you wanted to ask me about?"

>yes
>no

>>32563466
Those are actually a thing!
Only available to the filthy rich, though.

>>32563573
>>no

>>32563573
>Yes
"What are the military applications for such a material?"

>>32563573

Does the material rust? How resilient is it? Is there a convenient spell that could break the collar without breaking the person wearing it?

>>32563573
"so if i were to get a bracelet or ring of this vilerinite that were easy to remove, could marianne summon me to her side if she were ever in danger?"

>>32563573
"If I use magic to shrink a large metal sphere, then propel it through a pipe that ends with a Vilerinite ring at high velocity, will it grow to its original size, and if so, will it maintain its original velocity?"

>>32563598
question for another day, greg has places to be and there's likely plenty of applications
we should ask nik later

>>32563573
>yes
Could it be used on the Royal Guard so The King or the Princess would be able to summon us?

>>32563573
>>no

>>32563623
it's not antimagic, it's anti casting spell

>>32563573
>No
>>32563607
>>32563611
This guy teaches politics, and has loli's he'd rather be attending to. If we want to know this stuff, we can just find a book on it when we get off from bodyguard tonight.

>>32563573
>no

>>32563611
>>32563628

Guy, I think Marianne would be pretty pissed off at the implications.

>>32563623
Not how it works, it just fries the wearer's ability to cast spells, it doesn't have inherent antimagic properties beyond that.

>>32563640
while i agree we don't need to know about whether it rusts and we shouldn't take up too much time. a simple yes or no on whether or not our charge can summon us is a big deal and only takes seconds for him

>>32563585
>Only available to the filthy rich, though.
what percent of a mcduck would one of these cost

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>>32563573

>Nah, we're good.

>>32563347
>Doesn't sense 'lifeforce' as it is acknowledged by the world, but also doesn't work on inanimate objects
>And, um... Mr. Arnaud is Lightning, I think.
Man, is it something really convoluted like sensing the presence of their synapses firing?

>>32563573
The only thing I'm interested in at the moment is how to remove one if it ever becomes necessary.

Someone sneaking in with a Vilerinite collar, clapping it on a VIP, and then having a related party summon the collar back to them seems like an almost unavoidable kidnapping method that we'd be well-served by knowing how to avoid. Especially since there'd probably be a small time window to get it off, since the signal would probably be something like "at X time on the dot, re-summon the collar." in order to keep it from requiring traceable communication.

>>32563656
It's implicit slavery as far as they're concerned. We just spent two hours listening to how horrible it is.

IT IS A DUMBSHIT THING TO ASK.

>>32563682
>implying Scrooge need money for a teleporter

He probably has one in his office and twelve in his basement.

>>32563573
>NO

>>32563646
Maybe, but Reinhold is kind of a pramatist so I find it in-character to ask.

>>32563573
No

>>32563573
No

>>32563573
>yes
Can you make a sword out of it?

>writing

>>32563696
forcing it on someone or brainwashing them with religion and making it difficult to take off is vastly different from willingly wearing a ring of it for the sake of teleporting

>>32563777
It literally converts someone into an object in the eyes of the world.

How are you not seeing the implications of this regardless of intended use.

>In which Reinhold fends off misguided paternal wrath.
>paternal

You can say that for an uncle? Or did Gregory and Lisette...?

>>32563696
I think you're reading way to far into that. I can't see anything wrong with an accessory we could take off at any time, it's hardly slavery (implied or otherwise) if the subject can just take it off whenever they please. Granache clearly doesn't have some big moral compunction against using the stuff, they already utilize it responsibly.

I don't think it's a good idea just because it's not terribly practical to be walking around without being able to use magic and pinging as an object all the time, but it seems like you're blowing it way out of proportion.

>>32563573
>yes
If we made a mobius strip out of this stuff would it make the entire world see itself as an object?

>>32563813
"avuncular wrath" doesn't really flow off the tongue quite as smoothly.

>>32563748
We'd be able to summon a sword anywhere we went, even places where it's not usually advisable or legal.

Caught taking a shower and need to defend ourselves? Suddenly, sword. Accompanying the Princess somewhere that disallows us our regular swords on entry? That's cool, we can summon a sword out of thin air if we need one.

We could even call a shield or something.

>>32563811
greg started off by bringing out one of the ones that they use on people. if the stuff was inheritly bad they wouldn't use it for even that. it's a tool to them, one that their neighbors use for slavery, but not good or evil in and of itself

>>32563861
we can summon a sword regardless of what it's made out of as long as it's not people

>>32563861
This doesn't need us to make the sword out of super-expensive slavemetal. It's only necessary to trick the spell into letting it summon living things.

>>32563861
It doesn't have to be made of Vilerinite, you could technically summon any object you own.

>>32563861
>>32563748

No, you don't need for it to be out of this metal. The only special trait here is the 'envelopment' thing. Sword isn't enveloping anything.

Although giving that stuff shapechanging powers with Niklaus's crystals is something worth asking the crazy wizard later.

"No, I think I've heard enough about such things for one day," Marianne shakes her head. "Let's go, Reinhold..." she says as she heads for the door, but you stop her before she can get to far.
"I just had one question to ask," you say.
"Very well..." she sighs.

With a slight frown on her face, Marianne leans on the wall by the doorframe and waits for you to finish.

"What is it?" Sir Gregory asks.
"Umm..." you begin, "I know it might sound kind of weird, but would it be possible for Marianne to summon me in a pinch if I was like, wearing a ring made of that stuff?" you ask.
"...huh?" Marianne stares at you as if you've just gone mad.
"I understand your sentiment, I guess," he replies, "but it takes more of that metal than just a tiny ring to get the full effect..."

Huh, so the collar form isn't just so that the wearer would be unable to cut off a limb or whatever to be freed from the Vilerinite's effects.

>[1/?]

>>32564019

"And the summoning spell itself requires three things in order to work- the object summoned needs to have a name that the world recognizes, it has to actually be the property of the caster... and the final condition's where your plan gets screwed up," Sir Gregory says.
"Oh?"
"The summoning works based on substitution," he points a finger in the sir. "Meet the first two conditions, and then you need to provide an object of a similar size and shape to the thing you're trying to summon."

That definitely would be an issue.

"With all three conditions met, you'd end up replacing the fodder object with the one that you're trying to summon," Sir Gregory explains. "What's a decent example..."

Scratching his chin for a few seconds while he gathers his thoughts, he snaps his fingers when something comes to mind.

"Nico's grandfather left his glaive to her before she died," Sir Gregory says. "That thing has a name too, so Nico could cast Fragment Lancer to create a junk weapon and then use that summoning spell to switch that one with the glaive back home. That kind of thing."
"Oh, I see," you nod.
"Yeah, so you'd need something like a scarecrow on hand if you wanted to summon an actual person," he shrugs. "That's actually what those fuckers in Ancellotta use when slaves escape."

>[2/?]

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>>32564120
"couldn't marianna create a me sized chunk of ice and use that as a substitute"

>>32564120
So for our purposes, it has no real practical application.

>>32564146
>When in danger, freeze a suckuh, get Rein
Might be cool

>>32564185
>Might be cool
>cool

I have a tendency to put arbitrary rules onto spells and that type of thing.
Probably an effect of being a fan of Hunter x Hunter for like fifteen years now.

>>32564215
It's cool. Makes the magic more interesting.

>>32564120
>Before she died

>>32564120
>[3/3[

"So much for that plan," you shrug.
"Hey, I have to at least give you credit for trying," Sir Gregory pats you on the back. "But the Princess over there seems to be getting impatient, so I suggest you get out of here before she throws a tantrum."
"I'm not going to-" Marianne stammers before cutting herself short and letting out a long sigh. "Come on, let's get going already," she says as she grabs you by the forearm and drags you out into the hallway.

You didn't even get a chance to properly thank Sir Gregory for answering your question...

"I swear, that man..." Marianne mutters under her breath. "ANYWAYS, it's about time for tea. And I'm sure that you've already started to work up an appetite," she says, glancing at you.


>talk about a thing as you head to the courtyard
>nothing to talk about

>>32564238

>Nicolette's grandfather was actually Agnes's sister
>She was not known as the lancer because of her weapon of choice...

>>32564268
"so do you happen to know princess lucianna be joining us for tea today or do you think she's still asleep?"

Im just wondering when we get to see the picture, Im excited

>>32564268
"So do you think Luciana's ready for show and tell?"

Come on Marianne. Take the bait.

>>32564268

"I wonder if there's more to it than a coincidence that the ancelottan collar looked like whorehouse toy... maybe I should pay my old boss a visit"

>>32564238
/d/ sees no problem with this

>>32564299
She clearly painted Reinhold like he was one of those French girls.

>>32564268
>>32564302
This

>>32564307
nope, that's the kind of thing we keep in the back of our head and never say to anyone ever at all under any circumstances
until spinelle works it (and some other stuff) out of us

>>32564268
>talk about a thing as you head to the courtyard
"You really had me scared out of my wits from that comment about Luciana."
Laugh

>>32564322

I'm not sure what you mean. The point was to figure out where the boss got the collars, whether he has any sort of connection to the slavers.

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>>32564334
This kind of laughter?

>>32564336
i'm saying we don't mention to an already upset princess "gee the collars the whores i used to work with as a kid sure look a lot like those magic slave collars we just looked at"
it's something we either look into ourselves or bring up with someone more suited to looking into it, like nico, since busting up a magic slave ring may help her make knight and she's actually free to leave the palace for shit like that

>>32564361
I was thnking more genuine heartfelt laughter, but that works too.

>writing

>>32564381

Fair point. Marianne might have insights of her own though. But I guess you're right, no point in giving her reason to worry.

Hey arch, I realize you have no control over this, but the dropbox link doesnt seem to be working. Just a heads up

Wait I was just thinking about all this 'world' recognition stuff.

Devil children don't need to make script and invoke because the world recognizes them as elelmentals. I mean it's either that or half elemental but I think the worlds veiw is pretty black and white.

>>32564336
I think the point isn't that the brothel out in the sticks was using genuine, pricy slave collars, but rather that they looked the same because they were supposed to evoke images of actual slave collars. (Or vice versa, depending on whether Gregory's theory is correct or not. "Which came first; the collar or the fetish?" The world may never know.)

Ancellotta is (IIRC) the only place nearby where slavery is legal, and its slaves universally wear these collars. It's understandable that the collars would become symbolic of a master/slave relationship. Having a brothel worker wear one would be like having them wear a maid uniform, or a leash, or other classical symbols of servitude (only existentially more fucked up because of how the collars work.)

Sure it's possible that there was a whole slaving ring that went entirely under Reinhold's notice the entire time he was growing up there, but it definitely wouldn't be the first conclusion I'd come to.

>>32564467
That makes sense

>>32564471

Perhaps so, but is it such a common ware? The proprietor had to buy the collar from someone.

>>32564506
but all we know is that it looks like the special rare and expensive vilerite stuff, not whether it was actually mad out of that, or just cheap iron dolled up to look like it. for example, do you think every gangster in LA wearing a gold chain is actually wearing 24 karat gold? no, it's painted metal with maybe a little bit of gold plating

>>32564506
Leather and/or metal collars are not a terribly difficult thing to have a craftsman make to spec, even in ye olde not-medieval times.

>>32564544

You still have to be familiar with the original to craft a copy. But yeah, it's probably nothing.

>>32564579
Assuming, of course, it even is an exact copy and not just something similar enough t trigger Rein's memory.

"Your little joke back there with Sir Gregory really had me scared there, you know" you laugh.
"I bet it did," Marianne replies. "Consider it payback for earlier this morning," she says, shaking her head.
"Yeah, I figured that was why you said that," you sigh. "Speaking of Luciana, do you think she'll be showing up for tea?"
"It would certainly be nice if she did," she shrugs. "Luciana was never one to sleep the day away, so I'd at least hope that she's up by now."
"And maybe she's ready for show and tell," you say with a chuckle.

And then Marianne starts smiling in a most sinister fashion.

"I'm sure that she wouldn't dare to come around without -something- to show us," Marianne says. "She's too prideful to back out of a bet, after all."
"I take it that you two do that kind of thing often?" you ask.
"Only when I think she has a fair chance at losing," she replies. "It's always fun to see her squirm for a change."

>[1/?]

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Made it to the ACTUAL PSG!!!

>>32564467
Devil Children inherit their ability through a parent who has formed a contract with a "higher" entity. (It's not even necessary for them to be an Elemental; just something with a greater magical/spiritual 'weight' in the eyes of the world, and of the capable races, Humans are on the bottom rung.)

Elemental contracts are the only ones that give the Contractor the contracting entity's power directly (IIRC the rest just allow the Contractor to tap into the contracting entity's magical reserves while casting their own spells.)

We've been told that Devil Children are the offspring of Contractors in general, but I'm not sure we've actually seen any who weren't offspring of Elemental Contractors, given the Scriptless casting they've all had.

>>32564506
>"Hey boss. Long time no see. Sorry to drop in like this, but I need to know who supplies the props your girls use. The slave collars, mostly."
>"...what."
>"I just need to know. For reasons."

This would almost be a misunderstanding worth getting side-tracked for.

>>32564645
Christ you're familiar with a lot of Quests' lore. I'm actually really impressed. How many do you follow/participate in?

>>32564723

Yeah, his superior autism is pretty nice, makes most quests he follows pretty enjoyable.

>>32564627
>[2/2]

With Marianne's mood noticeably improved, the two of you finally make it to the courtyard. Not forgetting your usual routine, you open the door and check inside first to make sure it's safe before stepping aside so that she can enter.

The garden's as well-kept as ever, though you do notice that there seems to be less flowers than the last time you were here. Probably because the seasons have fully changed...

...and then you wonder where you'll have teatime once it starts snowing.

After taking a seat next to Marianne by the table, you let your mind wander while enjoying the quiet atmosphere. You'd almost forgotten how nice it is to just idly pass the time out here...

But then you're pulled back to reality by the sound of the door opening. And as expected, there goes Arnaud and his usual teaset balancing act.

"Good afternoon, Princess," the old butler nods. "And hello again, Reinhold. The two of you seem to be in good spirits."

>greet the arnaud!

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>>32563690
>arnaud uses lightning powers to detect faint electrical pulses that run all living things
this makes sense. and if he can use lightning magic to augment the electrical signals of his own brain and super speed his reaction time it could explain why he's the best swordsman around.
and now we know how to beat him. we just have to learn how to redirect vectors. and we already have a loli

>>32564749
>The two of you seem to be in good spirits.
well marianne seems particularly happy about getting to watch lucianna suffer/embarass herself, and i can't say i'm not looking forward to seeing my little wager pay off either

>>32564840
also there's no need to explain anything to arnaud since he already knows. and i mean ANYTHING

>>32564749

Good afternoon, Arnaud! What's the news?

>>32564749
"Good afternoon, Arnaud, you wouldn't by chance know if Princess Luciana will be joining us for tea?"

>writing

>>32564723
Maybe 8-10 that run regularly? A lot of this is just willingness to archive-dive to verify half-remembered things. I remember things the wrong way a reasonable amount of the time too, so I wouldn't rely too heavily on any of my non-cited speculation.

For what it's worth, upon double-checking, it looks like Devil Children are probably a phenomenon specific to elemental Contractors. The wording was a little ambiguous, but it makes more sense that it works that way.

>>32564467 probably was pretty close on his reasoning for Devil Children can do their thing, seeing as we were told (OOC, but still) something similar about Sealed King wielders. (That when they're together, the world recognizes the gestalt as being an Elemental.)

>>32564771
If electrosense really is how he does it, I'm going to be mildly upset that Archelon didn't name him Lorenzini. It's probably too Marconetti-y of a name for someone from Granache, but it would've been dreadfully appropriate.

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"Well, Marianne's happy at the prospect of getting to see Luciana embarrass herself, and Id be lying if I wasn't looking forward to the results of our little wager..." you say.
"Ah, the bet," Arnaud nods. "Melanie was telling me about that... it's a shame that I didn't get a chance to join on in on the wager," he laughs.

That's right, Arnaud does seem to enjoy betting...

"I must say, the castle hasn't been this lively since your father was a boy," Arnaud says, smiling as he places the teaset onto the table and gets right to work in pouring cups for both of you.
"I hope it's not too much trouble for you," Marianne replies. "I know that you have enough to worry about as it is, after all..."
"While that is true, I'm actually -less- swamped than before now that Melanie is back," the old butler laughs. "And it's nice to finally be able to see Elena and Emilio again... that little girl definitely takes after her father, she's every bit as excitable as he was at that age."

The thought of Celestino as a little kid... your brain can't even properly process it, he's so firmly ingrained in your mind as being impossibly old.

>[1/?]

>>32564958
Wait

Is HE older than celestino?

>>32564958
>[2/2]


"Emilio and that young bodyguard of his have already begged me to tell them about my dueling days," Arnaud says. "Too bad I'm not quite sure when I'll have a free moment to spare for them... ah-"

He then turns to the courtyard door as it swings open and Takamaru and Luciana make their way inside.

"I see that you're finally up and about, Luciana?" Arnaud asks.
"Yes... finally," Luciana sighs. "Sorry for missing breakfast, Marianne."
"It's fine," Marianne shakes her head. "You can always make it up to me later."


>greet the (other) Princess!

>>32565017
Of their little adventuring party, Arnaud was the oldest, then Celestino, and Nicolas was the youngest.

>>32564905
I had remembered devil children as being the child of a elemental in human form and their contractor rather than a contractor and a random. I didn't think to check the archives.

>>32565024

"good afternoon, o Crimson rose of Marconetti"

>>32565024
"So you were up all night thinking about me?"

>>32565024
"A single night, and already she's being kept awake with thoughts of me"

>>32565058
>>32565049
So cheesy, and yet so satisfying.

Calling it a night here, guys.
It was fun getting back into the groove of things, and I apologize if the long explanation of in-world minutae was boring for you guys.
Next thread will be Wednesday night, same bat-time, same bat-channel.

And on Thursday, I'll be starting a new thing that'll only serve to divert my attention from Princess Guard.
such is the folly of archelon


Thanks for playing!

>>32565132
Thanks Arch

>>32565132

Don't bury yourself under projects, Arch man! Turtle. Whatever.

Cheers for the thread!

>>32565132
Thanks for running