Get him more acquainted and comfortable with the other players in your group

>>33390339
... hm probably find a way to get them use to the people and get comfortable.

Other wise food, It gets me to chill. But you know them better than I. So I will leave the food part to you.

Share a pre-game blunt.

>>33390339
As someone who speaks autism, assuming that is what it is, you are going to want to speak quite literally, and break things down for him.

The guy I know with autism is an engineer so, I try to make normal talk sound like tech talk. He seems to think that conversations should follow some flow chart he has in his head.

When I say speak literally, try to think of words by their dictionary definition without emotion behind them.

Try to avoid assuming they know basic social standards and you may have to explain these to them, X happens when you say Y, for example.

This is all assuming that this is like the person I know. And yes I know 4chan missuses autism/

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>>33390339
Tell him to chew some gum while he or she is playing. That shit takes the anxiety away.

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>>33390474
...You're really perceptive, you know that? He is mildly autistic. The thing is, though, that he hasn't been making big gaffes or otherwise embarrassing himself, he's just got this strong impression of himself as a "pathetic, annoying, sub-human fuck" (to use some of his favorite words for himself) and he seems to work off the assumption that he's irritating everyone else and being a burden.
>>33390442
>>33390453
These would be better ideas if we were meatspace friends.

Troll answer: make him play something with Cha below 6 and pass his spaghetti for "in character".

Serious answer: As a person with mild social anxiety (and serious haphephobia) I'd say the only "easy" answer is proper meds. One basically drugs himself to the point where he stops caring. As you can imagine, while it will make (force?) the guy to feel at ease, it will probably affect his performance in a session, which may or may not be noticable. By proper meds I mean prescription stuff given to him by specialist, no over-the-counter stuff.
Weed and/or booze are sometimes good enough substitute, but also might make situation worse (hypotetically even drive him suicidal for a bit).

Other than that - plenty of patience, positive feedback and constant encouragement. Ideally not just from you and not just in D&D. Every little counts. You won't notice the difference for a while, but in the long run it's the best you can do for him. Also make him do things he's good with, stage situations where he's gonna succeed. And get him to know the players (if he doesn't already) people with anxiety function better if they feel being on familiar ground.

It could also help to figure out what's the original source of his anxiety, if you're on the "best friend" terms, chances are he will tell ya. Could figure something out from that.

Oh and if you're fine with lying to people for greate good, placebo effect might actually do plenty, just hand him some harmless vitamin pills passing them for antistressant or w/e. It's all in the head.

>>33390664
Use complements, and thank him if he does something helpful, but try not to bullshit it so he thinks you are going out of your way.

>>33390747
Prozac is a fucking miracle.

>>33390442
>Other wise food, It gets me to chill.
Could backfire terribly on (ex) anorexic/bulimic. But generally should work.

>>33390785
>Prozac is a fucking miracle.
Amen to that.

>>33390842
I don't know if it makes me altered like alcohol or weed, or if this is just how normal people feel.

Either way it is great.

Get him to a fucking shrink. You are neither his therapist or his mother. Yeah, it's not nice. But if you go out of your way just to pander to him, you are taking time and effort away from the rest of the group. And that's not fair on them. I'm assuming he is an adult, he takes responsibility for himself.

Speaking as someone with mild autism, I used to have a related thing where I would apologize for something stupid, people would tell me not to, I would apologize for that, etc.

I like the food idea, perhaps wearing a sweater, or a heavy coat could help this person? I personally feel more at ease in general while wearing heavy clothing

>>33390923
Probably good advice, but be careful there are some shit shrinks out there.

Also this doesn't mean you shouldn't be nice to him.

CBT, lots of reading on the subject, and vipassana and metta-bhavana meditation.

More important than drugs and professional help is a grounded understanding of the nature of the issue by the one experiencing it and growing the tools to examine and confront it properly. Therapy goes a long way, but is only a part of self-therapy. Not to mention middle class white girls with no mental health history, a mass of sociocultural biases, and a level personal and spiritual development and self-awareness usually found in bacteria aren't helpful at dealing with YOUR problems, in my personal experience.

>>33391033
I've found lucid dreaming to be quite beneficial and my psychologist agrees that it is a good thing.

Though it was a month before I could do it.

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>>33390923
He goes to a psychiatrist already. I don't take time away from the rest of the group to pander to him, I just spend a lot of time with him because I am also lonely and near-friendless.

>>33391033
>CBT
Made me freeze for half a minute wondering how the fuck is that going to help. But you're right. I've just spent too much time on /d/.

>>33390339
Booze and transsexual hookers.

Or, in the case that your friend is not degenerate, you could try giving him tasks that challenge him, but he is nonetheless able to complete at least 75% of the time. That fixes low self esteem.

>>33390339
OP, are you sure it's not a sexual fetish?
Maybe this dude gets a hard-on by being treated poorly and being demeaned by other players.

>>33390339
Compliment him, get a bit of alcohol involved, possibly ask him to go to therapy.

>>33391214
That is usually pretty obvious.

Trust me I am an expert on this subject.

>>33391235
We're on the internet, though. Plenty of "I swear I'm not gay guys" shota trap rape fetishists on here.
That and the foot fetishists. I'll never understand those guys.

>>33390339

Ask him if he's comfortable enough to talk about why he feels like that with someone else.

Go through it with him. Encourage him after and tell him that whatever sort of thing that caused it will not (probably) happen here.

If it persists despite your best efforts then seek the help of someone with more expertise than you.

>>33391276
>I'll never understand those guys.
What are you? Snake?

>>33391214
I've never met somebody less comfortable with lewd things than this guy in my life.

>>33390339>>33390664
huh... is your best friend me? that's about a 9.5/10 description of me.

>>33390664
>Pathetic, annoying, sub-human fuck
I've seen that before.
Was he raised by a single mother?
Is he bi-racial?
Does he have sexuality or sex identity issues?
These aren't the only possible causes of self-loathing, but I've seen a lot of people who get abuse for things like those.

>>33391320
Probably not. I wonder if it would make him feel better to know that people feel the same as him.

>>33391359
His parents shouted at him a lot when he was a kid because he couldn't into normal social cues and didn't give the right responses.

>>33391310
Being uncomfortable with lewd things is a bad sign. It can point to a troubled family (adultery) or past sexual harassment. He needs to discuss that with his head doctor.

>>33391392
That'll fuck you up. Fortunately that fixes itself when you get a girlfriend since she acts as a surrogate.

>>33391392
The autisms?

>>33391393
He has some issues with touching that are probably related to his autism, though, so that's probably the more likely culprit. He says being touched feels like he's on fire.

>>33391393
And that explains the purityfags.

>>33391412
3d pig women don't fix your issues

>>33391443
That'll cause issues too, no possible solve. But does not impair one's ability to play 2D turn based tactic games, so can be ignored.

>>33391447
The more partners a woman has had, the less likely she is to remain faithful. Purity is the opposite of cuckoldry.

>>33391498
Some of them do! But you're right, virtuous 3D women are rare.

>>33391535
only you can solve your own issues anon. No one else can fix you. OP is probably wasting his time even.

>>33391586
Not always. Support helps.
And by Support I mean head doctors, not tumblr. Never go to tumblr.

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>>33391586

Are you sure we're not just talking about you, OP?

>>33391639
why would he lie?

no one knows him.

>>33391639
You know, I honestly wish that I could just take some of his issues and have them myself so that he didn't have to have them anymore. I know that isn't how the world works, but I just get so fucking sick of just seeing him bully himself and not being able to do anything about it.

>>33391535
>purity=faithfulness
I can personally tell you that is false. Virgins can totally be cheating teases, and women who love sex are entirely capable of limiting their libido to one partner.

>>33391682
If it makes you feel better, there exists multiple combinations of sensory input that could be beneficial to him.

>>33391690
Outliers gonna outlie.

>>33391714
Nah, it just depends on how the woman in question thinks, not how much cock she's taken.
>But of course that would imply women can think, huh?

>>33391787
>Implying women's thinking doesn't follow statistical patterns

>>33391181
You are creating a codependency. That shit aint healthy.

>>33391851
Nonsense. Codependency is how two people pilot giant robots together.
Two people acting together on their path through the world is a viable option.

>>33391682
The fact that you are getting depressed about someone else's mental issues and projecting them unto you is not healthy. Break off the relationship till the fucker gets better. Or he will drag you down with him. You aren't fucking him, so you ain't losing shit.

>>33391820
I'd say it's a 50/50 split, and whatever past relations they had don't enter the equation. Maybe the cheater never stayed with a dude long enough to fuck, and the faithful started early and got dumped by shitty boyfriends; there are a lot of different real life possibilities. Bottom line is: cocks don't change thoughts.

>>33391787
> woman in question thinks
> not how much cock she's taken.
Mate, if a women has taken a boatload of cocks. Then her mind thinks along the line of a boatload of cocks. Otherwise she wouldn't have taken a boatload of cocks.

>>33391881
No, that is how shitty relationships happen. Yeah I got the mecha joke, but having your emotions depend on another person is a recipe for disaster. If you can't be happy on your own, your happiness with said person also won't last. Because you will keep wanting them to make you happy, instead of wanting to be happy yourself.

>>33391899
Seems selfish, but practical.

>>33391916
You mean how moe slice of life anime veteran enthusiasts from /a/ think in terms of cute girls doing cute things, as though their entire mind is a folder entitled "Anime reaction images"?

Or how the really obsessive homosexuals seem to have their sex drive motivating most of their thoughts and actions?

Or how people really deep into a cult internalise all the cult's views, and then think of things in terms of righteousness and unholiness?

I suppose it makes sense, but I didn't think "Woman receiving the D" was extremist enough to have all their thoughts ruled by the D.

>>33391937
Might as well be miserable together, then.

>>33391916
>sees no difference between a boatload of cocks one after the other vs a boatload of cocks at the same time
Faithfulness is determined by circumstance, not volume.

>>33391990
>miserable together
Mate, go see a shrink too. Now.

>>33392043
No u

>>33391990
>but I didn't think "Woman receiving the D" was extremist enough to have all their thoughts ruled by the D.
You'd be really surprised.

>>33392095
I suppose I wouldn't be. People are pretty impulsive.

>>33392054
Oh hell no.
You come to us for help, we give you advice based on what you tell us, and you reply to this particular piece with a "no u" because it makes you uncomfortable?
You want to help your friend out of his comfort zone, you don't get the privilege of staying in yours.
Go see a fucking shrink.

>>33392141
You know I'm not the OP, right dumbass?

>>33392095
Hentai=/=real world, bucko. Most women don't go nuts for nuts.

>>33391990
M8, go find a woman who enjoys a boat load of cocks and stick your cock in her a boat load of times. You'll feel better.

>>33390339
this sounds like a dude i know

>>33392167
And a lot do.

>>33392095
It's enough for men, I mean, everyone knows one of the douchey brosephs who exist to get laid. Men receiving the V to have all thoughts ruled by the V. It's just equality.

As for OP... If it's online, text one of your game-mates who aren't his "best friend" and have them give him a props or two, once a session or something, with a quick "he's really down on himself lately, if you could just say 'you did well today mate, looking forward to next week' to them after the next session I'd appreciate it".

>>33392174
Sounds like it'd risk STDs and TNB though.
>>33392167
The difference between Hentai and the real world is that women in hentai are ideal and feminine, whereas women in the real world have flaws and masculine traits.

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the fact this thread exists proves he is a burden, and his social issues are a self fulfilling prophecy. Keep telling people you're annoying and they're gonna believe you. Good thing your not meatspace friends, just walk away

>>33392152
Coulda sworn.
Eh, my advice still stands for whoever thinks that "miserable together" is a good way of life.

>>33392213
More interesting than miserable alone.

>>33392218
Then don't be miserable alone. See a fucking shrink.

>>33392262
Shrinks are not magical and cannot fix everything.

>>33391899
inb4 there's nothing wrong with OP's friend and OP just has Munchhausen's by proxy

>>33392196
>Sounds like it'd risk STDs and TNB though.
Wear a condom, what are you? 12?

>>33392276
No u

>>33392269
You're quite right, better to do nothing then.

>>33392167
But you don't know most women, anon.

>>33392196
You ain't no fuckin' prize either, m8.
>>33392190
Don't confuse a lot and most. Something like 100 million women may be a lot, but certainly not most.

>>33392043
Shrink's don't fix problems. They just talk about them until you maybe feel better, or maybe prescribe something. Or maybe institutionalise you.

>>33392304
And don't you confuse most with an objective fact. You wanna start talking figures, your ass better be having some sauce.

>>33392309
Go to bed, Tom.

>>33392297
Fuck yeah, doing nothing!

>>33392309
There aren't enough beds to institutionalise everyone who needs it, and there sure as fuck aren't enough beds to institutionalise petty, frivolous or edge cases.

>>33392309
Then you've seen shitty shrinks. Go to a professional psychiatrist with a good track record. Also go to those support group shite. Maybe see a fucking priest, they are good therapists too. DO SOMETHING.

>>33392325
>DO SOMETHING.

Alcoholism and painkillers go.

>>33392325
Protip: if you are able to do so, Exercise is top yes.

>>33392269
>it's not 100% success, so it's useless
That's not how life works, anon. Every little bit counts.
>>33392298
And I suppose you do?

>>33390664
>He is mildly autistic. The thing is, though, that he hasn't been making big gaffes or otherwise embarrassing himself, he's just got this strong impression of himself as a "pathetic
so aspergers, not autism.

>>33392342
Naw dude, Weed.
Can't possibly go wrong, solving your problems by killing your brain and goin' so slow that your problems can't handle it.

>>33392349
Bitch I'm on 4chan. I know most "women" are secretly crossdressing men with a gay submission fetish.

>>33392325

There are proper channels to identifying legit shrinks through their degree progress. They need legitimate medical degrees or psychiatric licenses in order to be a certified shrink, but there are those who practice without all the required work or ethical courses.

>>33390664
>Was he raised by a single mother?
>Is he bi-racial?
>Does he have sexuality or sex identity issues?
Why would he have any of those? They do kind of seem like they would go together.

>>33391412
A girlfriend is a surrogate mother?

>>33392355
we DSM-V now, anon

There is no assburgers, only the spectrum.

>>33392368
Ethics gets in the way of successful treatment sometimes.

>>33392373
I see a lot of people with the cray-cray having single mother syndrome, or some kind of sexuality issue.

>>33392325
>Go to a professional psychiatrist with a good track record.
I can just see whoever the state sends me to.

>>33392344
>Exercise is top yes.
That I can do.

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OP here. The anon who said I'm creating a codependency is probably right, but I don't want to abandon him, and I can't stand the prospect of being alone again.
Thank you for your help, /tg/.I guess I'll just have to resign myself to being useless.

>>33392397
Right, you're probably in "No health for whitey" America, aren't ya.
Well bro shitsux, don't know what you can do. You can't join the military with mental health issues and it's not like you can just get a job and pay for things over there.

Exercise always helps if you can do it.

>>33392373
>surrogate
For manchildren who got thrown out of their house, yes.

>>33392405
Just try to help with things like compliments or whatever other suggestions without making yourself dependent on his happiness for your happiness.

>maybe it isn't her fault she's not popular.gif
But it totally is.

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>>33392405
eh. that codependency stuff is mostly garbage IMO. if you're truly incapable of surviving without each other, then that is a problem because generally it's an issue to be totally unable to survive without SOMETHING, not necessarily just because it's another person. you shouldn't rely on anything that much, be it a person or a drug or what have you. if you enjoy each other's company, then you should feel free to associate as much as you desire.

if he's having real confidence issues though he should probably do something about that outside of your influence. it may eventually fade with time; i was the same way and i "got better" insofar as socializing and feeling not-so-much like a hunted animal got easier as i did it more often. i'm still mostly asocial, but that's just the way i am and i'm fine with it; my friends understand.

i get the feeling that i'm on the low-medium end of that social anxiety stuff though. some may never grow out of it with experience. it might just be so terrifying that it's impossible to stomach it. you might as well ask a snail to just "try a little salt"

just my two cents. stick with it. no need to abandon the poor fellow because he's a "social liability" unless you care deeply about some status bullshit, or if he's really fucking up your mood in a consistent and toxic way.

>>33392427
>you're probably in "No health for whitey" America, aren't ya.
Note quite nationalised healthcare England.

>You can't join the military with mental health issues
How can they tell? Not that I'm fit or determined enough anyway.

>Exercise always helps if you can do it.
I'm not fit now, but there's nothing stopping me getting fitter.

>>33392405
>useless
Did you even read a word we wrote?
Every little word of encouragement helps. Don't lay it on thick, but be positive, and make sure from time to time he still goes to the shrink.

>>33392496
>Did you even read a word we wrote?
OP's not posting Tomoko because of his friend, but because that's what he's like: he wants excuses to give up. He was hoping we'd tell him to kick the friend from the group, in all likelihood.

>>33392374
The APA can't just make a disorder vanish, and everyone already knew about the AS anyway.

>>33392479
Good man.
RUNS AND SQUATS, VEGGIES AND OATS.

Just be careful. In the UK, everything is illegal. Make sure your squats aren't racist or whatever.

>>33392522
>>33392496
I guess I was just upset because it feels like I'm not doing him any good sometimes, and I have this overdeveloped need to feel like I'm doing some good in the world. It's discouraging when months of being as positive and kind as I can is rewarded with my friend deciding that I'm just some kind of saint that descended from the heavens to be kind to him because I'm just so good instead of considering that maybe he has some good qualities after all.

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>>33392591
>TFW my knee is fucked.

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>>33392624
So, you wish you could do some good in the world?

>>33392591
That's okay, I'll just exercise in the countryside. It can't be offensive if there's no-one to see!

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>>33392644
daily reminder

>>33392661
I dunno, it's still probably offensive, oppressive, full o' invisible privilege and harmful in some way.

>>33392624
Yeah see this is why spending months being positive and kind because you need someone else to be happy isn't a good idea. You just need to have a good way of living and interacting with everyone, without needing them to reward you for it. That's the difference between codependency and just being a good person.

>>33392644
OP does seem to have a kinda girly attitude.

>>33392690
>OP does seem to have a kinda girly attitude.
This is 4chan; we all want to be the little girl.

>>33392405
Get a dog. No, seriously. Get a dog. Learn to train it and take care of it. That will take up such a considerable amount of your time that you won't feel lonely. Also, dogs love you unconditionally. So there's that.

>>33392702
I want to be the little girl so all these homosexuals will stop hitting on me. I could show them my vagina and be like "GUESS WHAT FAGS I HAVE A VAGINA" and they'd all piss off.

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>>33392624
have you tried being very direct

like extremely direct

if he's the autism he might not understand what you're trying (or not trying) to do. in which case being direct is a good idea.

if he's too far into the self-hate you might have to do something more extreme and/or be more patient and/or give up. though the last one is impossible to advise on considering we know very little of the precise context surrounding the given social interaction.

>>33392688
But if nobody can report it, that's okay. In the UK someone needs to see you for it to count.

Like that childhood game where you can't be caught moving.

>>33392690
Wait, OP, are you in fact a grill? If so, just fuck the guy. That'll cheer him up.

>>33392718
In my experience this does not work.

>>33392718
I can't speak for OP's friend but as someone with social anxiety I would probably have a legitimate heart attack if some girl tried to have sex with me. I start sweating and both my breathing and heartrate go up just thinking about.

>>33392718
You should fuck him regardless of gender.

>>33392738
He needs a confidence boost. A woman willing to fuck him will do that.

>>33392718
>fuck the guy who worships you like a saint
This the exact opposite of a good idea.

>>33392765
Hi 4chan. ^_^
You sure do like your gay sex

>>33392763
Well then it's a win-win. Either he dies and can no longer make OP's life hell. Or it will give him a confidence boost. I don't see any downsides.

>>33392771
Think of all the free shit she'll get. She could literally have a slave.

>>33392769
In his state he'll think she did it out of pity, which will only worsen his self-confidence.

>>33392778
We like whatever sex we can get.

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>>33392778

>>33392821
RUMIA I WILL MOLEST YOU

>>33392801
A slave who expects the world of her.
The higher the faith, the more painful the disillusionment, and the more intense the subsequent hatred.

>>33392763
>as someone with social anxiety I would probably have a legitimate heart attack if some girl tried to have sex with me
What could she do that would make you feel good? Flirt? Make flirty jokes about you being out of her league?

>>33392778
It's not gay if he's dyed his hair, wearing a skirt, even got contacts...

>>33392877
not that guy. try "be somewhere nearby and not obviously condescending"

>>33392897
Just admit that you like penises, 4chan. :3

>>33392877
Engage with me and my interests in a totally platonic and genuine way. No one to talk about my interests with really kills my self-esteem and makes me feel worthless.

>>33392902
This works. I just rarely ever am around girls so being nearby in a non-threatening manner (not sure how to define "non-threatening") would work.

>>33392907
w-when he wears the dress, h-he's a girl!

>>33392907
There's nothing gay about appreciating a girl's penis, so that's irrelevant to the discussion.

>>33392954
>>33392947
>he's a girl
>girl's penis
You guys, you're totally gay and you love cocks. :3

>>33392920
>No one to talk about my interests with really kills my self-esteem and makes me feel worthless.
Then the problem's just that you don't have friends who share your interests. Try blogging or online friends. Even online dating, if you can search the site for girls with whatever nerdy interests you want to talk about.

Easy way to find somebody interested: find someone who's already talking about the same interests on their own blog or whatever, and question them and bring up your thoughts.

>>33392973
>thinks it's gay to suck off your girlfriend

>>33392987
I have irl friends but it still sucks to not talk about SMT or 40k or whatever with them. As to the online thing, making the jump from messaging back and forth to "hey let's meet up!" is one of the scariest things I can imagine (not just as a social thing either, I'll be too paranoid I'll get killed).

So here I am on 4chan. Talking to strangers every day since I don't know where else to go.

>>33390339
You can't help him with social anxiety only he and his therapist can do that.

The only thing you can do is to try and make him realize that he needs to do that. And you don't do that by being gentle and cuddle him. If you do that he is just going to stay the same. on the other hand don't let him retreat further into himself. Drag him into the light or at least get him to the point where he can learn to help himself.

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>>33392987
yeah, that's the real curse. fishing for grills that care about any of the stuff i care about is basically impossible. it also doesn't help that i'm ugly. so it goes.
>>33392973
i should really find that escapist post, but it'll take me awhile and i'm tired, sorry.

>>33392644
Fuck off you little ferret.
>>33392690
Rewarded was probably the wrong word. I just want what I do to have an effect, you know? I want him to be happy. I don't know what you mean by a girly attitude.
>>33392709
I don't know how to be more direct than saying "you're wrong" and "no you're not" when he starts hating on himself.
>>33392718
I am not a girl, and he's said multiple times that he would turn a 3d girl down because he likes his waifu so much.
>>33392801
And you disgust me.

>>33393039
You won't get killed if you meet for lunch in a city centre. But never mind that anyway, just have online friends for the 40k, and people from the local game stores, and only bring it up occasionally with other friends with different interests.

You can be friends with people from /tg/ without them being strangers.

>>33393055
>fishing for grills that care about any of the stuff i care about is basically impossible
Look for any that mention those interests on okcupid. Otherwise just keep talking about the interests to guys and eventually you might meet a girl through them or an online friend might turn out to be a girl.

>>33393065
>he's said multiple times that he would turn a 3d girl down
but that's okay because
>I am not a girl
right?

>I want him to be happy.
cuet :3

>I don't know what you mean by a girly attitude.
I think you know exactly what I mean you little minx.

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>>33390664
Be direct and frank. I identify with a lot of the behavior patterns described in the linked post and find that stating simple facts (ie statements derived from first principles reasoning) offer great comfort. Were it me I'd say something like

>If we didn't enjoy your company we wouldn't invite you.

Simple, direct, and encouraging. If he's not a complete idiot he should be able to read the implication (we enjoy your company). Bonus points for playing on shared past experiences.

>>33393055
My fiance isn't interest in /tg/ related shit. So what. That's why you have friends, online or irl.

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>>33393065
well if it's an argument, you could just set up a logical chain that "proves" (not conclusively obviously) that he is not X trait. this is starting to get into pretty weird territory though.

if he thinks he's some detestable worm, just show him what an actual detestable worm is, and then "prove" that he isn't one. easy peasy

your friend sounds like he's kind of fucked up in the head though. got some serious self-hate going on or something.

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>>33393224
>>33393191
logicmind

>>33393143
I wish I had a local games store....

But anyways, you're a good person anon. Thanks for the encouragement.

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>>33393168
>loving someone automatically means you want to fuck them
You are the great tragedy of western society. You have misdirected manly love, and perverted it into something it was never intended to be.

>>33393266
2 posts with a 2 1/2 minute difference isn't really much of a coincidence.

Nice dubs though

>>33393291
>But anyways, you're a good person anon.
I know right. Vote Republican! You're welcome.

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>>33393329
thanks anon

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>>33393360
D'aww, goblin sharks look pretty cute when their jaws are inside their mouths.

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>>33393360
Are we having a NATURE RED IN TOOTH AND CLAW thread now? That's fine with me, since I got the advice I needed.

>>33393440
Into the fap folder it goes.

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>>33393440
That image is not supposed to be that fast. What gives?

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>>33393440
if it's not too much to ask OP, whatareyagunna do ?

>>33393470
>>33393440
Fucking snapping turtles man

They make sharks look like dolphons

>>33393440
>Are we having a NATURE RED IN TOOTH AND CLAW thread now?
Is this a good time to ask for input on my ancap druid concept? I still don't know which alignment is most appropriate, LN or CN.

>>33391359
>Social anxiety
>Describe as subhuman fuck
>Must be biracial or queer
>Those ling structures and assoc.

Dear /pol/, I know you want to help but you're drunk, please go.

>>33393440
OP, if you want to dump stuff, give me more Tomoko. fanart is fine, but really I'm looking for less common reaction pics. We've all seen "I'd be so hard" and "What is this slut saying?", but there's got to be lots of others between the manga and the anime.

>>33393678
>>Must be biracial or queer
To be fair, single mother was another option.

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>>33390339
/v/irgin here, visiting /tg/. I'm kind of the same way but online.

I don't think there's a way to make us feel better.

Extra attention may help though. I know sometimes that's what I want. To be liked and cool and receiving attention.

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>>33393488
I'm gonna keep being kind to him, because he's my friend. I'm going to get the other people in my group to start letting him know when he does stuff they think is good or cool in the game. I'm definitely going to try the logic thing. I'm going to try and make more friends at some point because Anon is right to say that it isn't healthy for either of us not to have anybody else.

>>33393688
Still, I don't want tumblr summoned by their foul rethorics and rustling rituals.
/pol/ must leave for the greater good of all neckbeardkind.

>>33393712
>it isn't healthy for either of us not to have anybody else
Even the closest of couples need friends besides each other.

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>>33393683
I don't have very much tomoko. How about "Converse with me"?

>>33393734
Transsexuality is a mental illness
Feminism is harmful to society because a woman's proper place is to loyally support and obey her man.
White people should support other white people, and not bother with equality or diversity.
Being fat is extremely unhealthy. Proper diet and exercise will make you a better person.
You don't have headmates, you're just doing it for the attention.
Supernatural is a shitty show, and Dr. Who was better before you were born.

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>>33393712
a nice considered response. good luck anonymous. may you both feel better tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow.

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>>33393795
Thanks, Touhou guy.

>>33393813
God damn it don't summon /pol/, they're worse than tumblr.

>>33393786
>Dr. Who was better before you were born
Before I was born Dr Who featured a villain based on Thatcher. Don't tell me that's good, commie.

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>>33393763
This is the stuff!

>>33393839
Sadly that's a fairly common one too. Funny, though and fitting for the thread.

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>>33393847

>>33393786
al8 i avi8 to the g8 to devi8 and bifurc8 the h8 to elev8 ur b8

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>>33393839
we_all_know_that_feel_guy.jpg

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anyway, good night /tg/

>>33393328
Armstrong is a faggot.

>>33393894

Oh hey, Kakuranger. Not a bad series.

>>33393813
Why do everyone imply Hitler is the leader to all white nationalists? He was an idiot. And he failed. He shouldn't be the leader. Only neo-Nazis think he is.

>>33393500
I think dolphins make dolphins look like dolphins, anon.

>>33393828
Noone is worse than tumblr. Not even Hitler was worse than tumblr. He, at least, could make the trains run on time. Do you think tumblr could.

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>>33393960
That was mussolini you ahistorical fuck

>>33393940
Right now, White supremacists are losing hard. They (you?) don't have a leader.

>>33391359
>Had a single mom for a while
>Biracial
>A bit of sex identity issues
>I also self loathe a lot

God damn it, you're right
;-;

>>33393960
I think tumblr is kind of funny.
/pol/ used to be funny but they got all serious.

>>33394005
>>A bit of sex identity issues
Trans I assume, since you're on /tg/?

>>33394043
Well, I don't really struggle with it or anything but yeah, i suppose so. Sometimes I like to pretend to be the grill when I'm fapping to porn and stuff. Nothing too serious because otherwise I find other men disgusting.

>>33394005
Shit son.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, you aren't alone. Plenty of women get inter-racially adulterous, and it leads to divorce.

>>33394055
>Sometimes I like to pretend to be the grill when I'm fapping to porn and stuff.
Who doesn't. Girls' clothes are just comfier anyway.

>Nothing too serious because otherwise I find other men disgusting.
Lesbian fantasies are okay too. You don't have to like guys to be a girl.

>>33394055
Well you're on 4chan. Lots of the trans-sex here.
Though, most of them are attracted to men, and there are many men on 4chan with a sexual fetish for the trans-sex, and they get REALLY aggressive and obnoxious with the sexual harassment.
Powerlevel your mental fortitude stat. The internet is full of perverts, and "sexually confused young male" activates said perverts' erections with the force of a volcano.

It might be better to lie about who you are, or what your interests are, if you're not comfortable with sexual harassment.

>>33394060
It's continuously baffling to me that interracial, of all things, is seen as bizarre and fetishy in some circles.

>>33394122
>Not expecting bigotry.

>>33394122
Interracial sex is my fetish.

>>33394139
It's not that I don't expect it, it's that the mental processes that lead to it are alien to me. What's so special about a white woman cheating on her white husband with a black guy, or any other such configuration?
It just feels really dull and unimaginative to me.

>>33394122
Most people prefer own race. Since interracial is rare, it becomes bizarre and fetishy.
>>33394154
Yeah I wouldn't mind trying an east asian lady, though I suppose that makes me a horrible sexual deviant.

>>33394185
Man, cuck fetish is the strangest thing and I have no idea why people are into that.
I also don't know why cuck is associated so strongly with interracial.

Shit's wack to me yo.

>>33393500
So serial rapists that kill other animals/their own young to use them as balls?

>>33394220
Man dolphins are wack yo.

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>>33390339
I know people on this site seem to hate TBBT, but I think a lot of their characters have merit as just how sad and a waste of skin some people can truly be. I think if you look past the laugh track you can see some really broken people and it will show you how in a way they tick and sometimes you just can't fix people unless they really want to and can learn to love themselves or at least accept themselves as they are. Oh and the real life version of OP pic. I'm referring to the character not the actress.

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>>33393786

-Transexuality isn't a mental illness, it's a physical state. If it's the RESULT of a mental condition that's another beast entirely, your comment shows that either you don't bother to think what you're typing or maybe you're just too stupid to define shit.
-Feminism (the real fucking thing, not the tumblr variety) actually enabled women to support their men, their country and their children. It only degenerated because you live in a culture that trivializes a lot of shit and spoonfeeds you artificial ideologies and lies. No, you can't take a "redpill" and still uphold the same values that said culture presents to you in the same retarded way for the same pseudo reasons, that's the whole point of looking at reality.
-Intelligent, honest, caring people should support other ok people, race be damned. I'm not impressed by stupid white people supporting other stupid white people, or stupid black, brown or yellow people doing the same. You don't impress me and should educate yourself before "supporting" anyone.
-Being fat is unhealthy, but being fit doesn't make you a better person. A lot of fit people are shallow assholes. A lot of fat people are shallow assholes too.
-I never said I had headmates, that means if you heard it, maybe you have some.
-Supernatural is shitty, and I haven't watched even one episode of doctor who, so I wouldn't know. Even if these are loved by tumblr, it's a poor red herring to distract from the fact that you're just pasting something that someone else posted.

We are /tg/, we deserve better quality bait than your shit. If you're going to violate board rules, than at least do it right.

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>>33394604
>We are /tg/, we deserve better quality bait than your shit.
And yet you fall for it. Well done, son. You are the retard.

>>33393786
>Transsexuality is a mental illness
>>33394604
>Transexuality isn't a mental illness, it's a physical state.
Both wrong. Transgenderism (it's not transsexuality or transexuality) is a psychological outlook, the same as sexual orientation.

>>33394840
Isn't it a preference?

>>33394902
Political orientation = preference
Religious orientation (denomination) = preference
Sexual orientation = preference
Gender orientation (gender identity) = preference

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>>33393712
OP, speaking as someone with both Asperger's Syndrome and clinical depression, there need to be more guys like you. You have no idea how much people like you help people like us, even if it doesn't seem like it at the time.

>>33393683
I got a little Tomoko... Here's some fanart a friend drew. Tomoko's not good at shopping for cute clothes! It's based on a line from a fanfic.

[Why are there so many?!] Tomoko silently panicked, doing her best not to have a breakdown in the middle of the store. Her hands shook, as she held up two tank-tops, trying to compare them, but her frantic and inexperienced mind not seeing anything between the relative merits of blue spaghetti strap, as opposed to black sleeveless high-neck.

>>33391990
>You mean how moe slice of life anime veteran enthusiasts from /a/ think in terms of cute girls doing cute things, as though their entire mind is a folder entitled "Anime reaction images"?
I actually know two women like that.
It's not pleasant the slightest.

>>33390453
probably gonna make him more self concious

>>33394604
Can you even into reading comprehension?
This post was clearly meant to just contain all the stuff that "triggers" tumblr to come over and start spamming&shitposting again

It was challenging/annoying this anon >>33393734

>>33394765
No anon, what you're replying to is the bait. Notice the No True Scotsman defence of feminism and the sarcastic ad hom about headmates.

>>33394604
Yay I summoned tumblr. ^^

>>33396414
Y-you monster!

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>>33394604
/co/ please become an hero

>>33390339
Get him laid.

/thread

>>33391881
When me and my best friend were in high school we were so attached that people made jokes about us being gay together to the point where we owned it. If someone called us fags as an insult we would laugh and say "Yea, and?".

Never got legit bullied because he at least was big and strong as fuck, and I made friends very easily.

I wouldn't say that kind of relationship is bad, as long as you're a man about it though. Extreme friendship and manly compassion is fine, as long as you don't require your bro to function as a person without him. Also tell him to get lost when you want to go wenching, trust me.

>>33391851
>>33391937
>>33392043
>No best friend detected.
Seriously, friendship makes life so much better, you should try it.

>>33393712
talk to him about doing a therapy group or something, it really helps. one thing i did that helped a lot was to just go to random stores and exert your right as a consumer. tell him to go ask some clerk about a product, but not buy it. tell him to go ask his hairdresser to explain what he did to his hair, tell him to get the baker to pack some bread up for him but reconsider at the last moment.

he will feel like hes being rude or not worth the effort those people are putting in, but once you push yourself to do it a couple times you realize your rights as a person and it can be really empowering.

>>33396995
fuck off

>>33397873
While I don't think you should purposely fuck with people, this makes a lot of sense.

I remember when I first started driving and buying shit as an adult. It was great.

Nothing made me feel more mature, stable, and in charge of my own life than driving down to food place and buying my own food with my own money.

Than later you get the same feeling by getting a house. Then getting married, having kids, etc.

But buying shit is the first step.

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>>33397926
no can do summerfag

>>33398002
>While I don't think you should purposely fuck with people, this makes a lot of sense.
yeah, it can feel a bit weird, but remember that they're just doing their job. it's best to find something that you have a legit interest in, though. what i said were just examples.
i'm a vegan, so i just "remembered" to ask the baker whether the bread was vegan after i ordered it. that is a very normal situation and realizing that no normal person is gonna feel like theyre being fucked with is the whole point of the exercise!

>>33393712
When you’re a sperg, spending your childhood struggling to comprehend social cues and being isolated usually leaves you thinking one of two ways; deluding yourself that you’re better than everyone else (the kind of person 4chan loves to mock, rightfully so) or believing every awkward social interaction is your fault and absorbing any criticism aimed at you. As a sperg with a case of the latter mindset I mentioned, a good friend helps a lot. It may not seem like it now, but just by playing with him and being nice to him you’re helping your friend a lot OP.

>>33397873
You know what? I'm in the same boat as OP's friend and I've had major problems exercising my customer rights. I've had several legit problems and I'd always feel great anxiety whenever I had to confront the other person. It got much easier with practice and in the end, it was much easier for me to start talking to people. Another thing that helped me was fighting the bureaucracy. If they live in a bureaucratic state, that's a skill that will definitely be needed and in my experience it also helps.

>>33399513
Be outgoing. Talk to employees, and ask them where to find what you're looking for. Usually they'll be happy to walk around the store with you and help you find something, because speaking with a real human bean is infinitely preferable to stacking product on shelves.

That's my experience, anyway.

>>33394119
>Well you're on 4chan. Lots of the trans-sex here.
and on some boards more than others, no?

>>33390339
This actually happened to me last weekend

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There is a really good Signal to Noise ratio here.

/tg/: Better advice than /adv/.

>>33405225
Indeed

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Here is the way I see it with someone who is prone to anxiety.

1: Coming down hard on them will only create a negative feedback loop in their head. Even if you manage to snap them out of the loop for a moment they will over-analyze a situation if just to justify a return to their entropic social spiral.

2: Make them feel a part of the group, not by putting attention on their character, but suggesting courses of action where the load is shared, and emphasize what the anxious player's strengths are.

3: Make it clear what sort of mistakes can be recovered from, and if need-be let their character fail, but let them recover. If there is someone riding them about a biffed die roll, correct that player immediately.

4: Show there's consequences for a mistake/foul-up, yes, but move on as quickly as possible to lessen the gravity of the error. If there isn't a focus on a mistake, then the anxious player will feel it isn't a big deal.

5: Players like this do very poorly in hardcore gaming environments. It might be better to play in narrative, low-lethality games.

Also I know this because I am socially anxious.

>>33403239
Prove you were OP's friend.

>>33392364
Killing brain cells? That sounds like Acid, which by the way is a terrific idea!

>>33390339
make everyone talk in an accent

>>33409462
Yeah... have someone who is uncomfortable and unsure of themselves do something they're not good at to make them MORE self-conscious.

>>33390339
I have serious social anxiety, actually, a therapist once told me it was more like a phobia and I can tell you that your friend wont get better. He will always be like that. You can't make him feel better and any attempt will just make him think even less of himself.

You anxietyfags are weird. it's like you say you don't like it, but suggest things to avoid it instead of dealing with the problem. I went from crippling anxiety to pretty good over the course of two years through intense research and meditation. I even got to the point where I worked in a restaurant without giving a single fuck.

>>33410798
see
>>33391033
Therapists are fallible. Go do some spiritual development and you'll find fear is the least of issues to confront.

>>33410972
inb4 arguing the difference between fear and anxiety.

>>33392373
In an ideal relationship each partner is a surrogate parent for the other and they both look after and take care of each other.

>>33411283
How can I possibly be a surrogate father for a girlfriend?

>>33411283
What does this mean for the children of single parents?

>>33408921
I cannot, but this same situation made me drop the current game I was playing
I felt I was useless

>>33390339
I had a guy like that in my group. We had to let him go eventually.

>>33412749
Ur mentally fuxt if you from a single mommy.

>>33393836
Maggie was a cunt.

>>33411283
Don't you have some blow and cigars that need attending to, Freud?

>>33390664
Teacher here, only compliment him when you mean it. He'll be able to tell when you're bullshitting him and it will play into his belief that he is worthless and wasting your time. When he does something good do not clap or make a show of it because that may not be what he's looking for in the first place. Talk to him in a calm voice at all times even when he starts to erode himself, be boringly consistent in telling him that he is not a waste of space and you genuinely want him to be there and it will stick after a few weeks.

>>33390339
The only thing I have anxiety over is if new players or a new group I find aren't so far gone down the usual road that it's nearly impossible to have a good game with them.

>>33411283
This sounds painfully pathetic and co-dependent.

>>33390339
When I run into people like this, I usually just boss them around. My intention was never to get them to feel better, but simply to get them to get a move on, but many of them seem quite happy to be given clear directives on how to act in order not to be annoying.

I certainly used to appreciate clear communication back when I was a socially retarded little shit.

>>33417687
Not really. You need father figures is all. I had several. I would have been more fucked if I had had my father around to be honest.

>>33420704
>You need father figures is all.
What happens if you don't have any?

>>33420785
Then you're fucked. Doesn't mean you can't be happy or live a worthwhile life, just means you'll have more (self-inflicted) problems along the way.

>>33420800
This sounds like a gross oversimplification.

>>33420800
What kind of problems? How to fix them?

>>33392304
100 million dick-hungry women may not be most, but it's certainly enough if you don't mind sloppy seconds.

>>33390339
Only advice I can give is for the friend is question to both A) take the right drugs and B) grow a fucking pair and learn to deal with his own problems.

>>33420800
Oh look, another middle school munchkin come to tell us what he read on the Internet.

>>33422154
Maybe he knows from experience.

I have a problem with one player,he can't think of doing anything other than full attack even when he isn't a fighter, he tried to do it with a wizard with obvious results, when I asked why he does that is because he didn't know what to do.
The other problem he haves is that he gets depressed when things don't go his way, or he doesn't get instant satisfaction.
Other than that is not like I don't like the guy but he is like a zero, he doesn't add or subtract anything to the game because he is silent unless you tell him to do something.

>>33422154
Touched a nerve?

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>>33390339

Don't stress too hard over, if you are cool it will help him out

>>33390339
Convince them to see a doctor. Seriously, everybody has SOMETHING wrong with them now-a-days. Whether it be anxiety/misc mental disorders or something physical like needing glasses, everybody has something.

Seriously, doctors op.

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>>33423972

Not him, but you sound like a kid.

Anyway OP, I might be older than the other posters here (28), but just be there as a friend for the guy. Just be cool, you're there to have fun, you don't have to take the burden of all of his social anxiety yourself.

I don't know the guy personally so I can't tailor my advice to him, but sharing your own personal issues might be helpful, misery loves company.

My engineer nerd friend, who had his own anxiety issues about six years ago is doing well, and I've been asked to speak at his wedding which is hella cool.

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>>33424135
>now-a-days

That's a bit of a fantasy, that everyone was better back in ye olden days.

History makes a lot more sense when you realize that people suffered many similar neuroses to what we have classified today. A lot more kids being diagnosed with autism? Well look at the nerds marrying other nerds. ADHD? Look at the extroverted folks marrying other extroverts?

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>>33424291
>My engineer nerd friend, who had his own anxiety issues about six years ago is doing well, and I've been asked to speak at his wedding which is hella cool.
How is he getting married?

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>>33428075

He and another player connected over similar hobbies, shared their own woes, and decided to make a go of it.

It's actually rather close to my own situation as well. With more women getting into /tg/ hobbies, it's only natural more couples meet because of it, so anytime some manchild whines about PC police or some stupid complaint, I start imagining them as the dudes in this pic

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>>33393836
I think you're referring to the single worst serial in the history of Doctor Who, which means you aren't going nearly far enough back.With rare exceptions, Doctor Who quit being good after the 4th Doctor and quit being tolerable after the 5th. See this guy? Overused though he may have been, he was an awesome villain. And I'm talking about the original Delgado version, not the annoying comic book mockery of a villain played by Ainley. Also, fuck Thatcher.

>>33393836
>Don't tell me that's good, commie.

As an aside, I love the kids who get really worked up about politics, they look and sound just like the types of people they hate ("man you're a fascist") but the great irony is that they are completely unaware of how they appear.

>>33390339
>How do I make my game more comfortable for this guy?

You cannot do this, not directly.

>I want him to have fun and not have to worry.

This you can do, and you've already yourself answered your question: do not worry.

In order to make your player *know* that his anxiety is something he should not mind, he must himself come to know this.

You cannot do this for him.

But you *can* show him what to do: namely, not worry about it.

So, do not worry about it. Run your games. Invite your player.

Have fun with your friend. Do not concern yourself about his problems, and, eventually, he himself will come to not worry about his problems -- and then he will be happier.

But let me reiterate: you can *not* solve the problems that belong to your friend -- just as he cannot solve the problems that belong to you.

>>33394604
>Falling for the bait

>>33429389
No anon, that is the bait. Jesus, just read it.

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I want to cum inside of Tomoko

I taught a girl with social anxiety taekwondo for awhile. She was like seven so it was hard enough already.

OP, you're a good person for trying to do this though. Since he's actually grown up my knowledge is foggy, but generally, try to validate his actions. Respond to him when he says something. Have NPCs listen and go a bit easy on him in combat. If the other PCs call you out say he's new and a bit scared.

If you want an excuse to go easy on him, have him play a "caster" or other support role. If he's scared of dying in game, play a tank or similar role. Not sure on system.

Good luck and I hope he's fine.

>>33428739
>>Don't tell me that's good, commie.
>As an aside, I love the kids who get really worked up about politics, they look and sound just like the types of people they hate ("man you're a fascist")
Wait, calling someone "commie" makes you look like a communist? Wut?

>>33434283
Call the commissar, comrade anon commited thoughtcrime!
that kind of thing.

>>33432719
Who doesn't?
And the best bit is her standards are low enough she might actually me.

pls no bully

>>33434380
I don't think pointing out the undesirability of a thought is the same as saying it's a crime.

Otherwise, saying so would itself be wrong, because it's also doing the same thing.

tl;dr you can't say saying someone's a communist is wrong because by the same logic saying that someone is saying that is wrong. If you follow.

>>33428233
Dear god that picture makes me want to punch someone

>>33434283
Guess this guy's never heard of mcarthy.

>>33420288
>>33428556
More people turned their backs at her funeral than will turn up at yours, and they were still invisible among those paying their respects.

>>33394978
>>33394978
>Gender orientation (gender identity) = preference

Funny

>>33436239
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>>33397827
>No best friend detected.
>Seriously, friendship makes life so much better, you should try it.
Not when both people are miserable and sustain each other's misery.

I have a best friend, and am all those you quoted. We are both happy chaps. We are happy alone and happier together. That's the point.

>>33410972
>Don't go to professionals
>just to spiritual shit, mang.

You are the worst kind of hipster.

>>33424291
>Everyone else is a kid
>but trust me, OP, I'm an adult.
>see, here's my age
>i wouldn't lie to you

>>33438086
Being 28 and posting on 4chan, even /tg/, one of the older boards, is hardly something to boast about.

Some good advice in here.

>>33434691
Punch a babe who didn't make you a sandwich?

>>33420288
>>33428556
Last post for Maggie!

>>33395006
Girls without an ounce of fashion sense who wear missmatched clothes are so cute

>>33393712
Is your group an online one? Is there room for more? You seem like a cool guy to play games with OP!

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>>33438086

I came here in 2005 when I learned about /h/. I got bored after graduation, but came back recently, now that I'm into wargaming.

I do usually prefer older more mature boards, but I do enjoy lewdness that most other boards prefer to keep private.

Not that you give a shit, because I'm guessing you're closer to the 4chan median age, but there's nothing wrong with that everyone is young once, just don't act like the kind of college-aged kid that gives others a bad name.

>>33438041
>Therapists
>Professionals
lel

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>>33450304

"I went to a therapist once and it totally didn't help!!"

>>33450453
Some of them aren't very professional, I have a restraining order on me by my ex-therapist, because she couldn't handle I became obsessed with her and started stalking her. I have no idea what she expected when she signed up for the job.

Dammit.

I saw this thread yesterday, and it got me thinking if I had some social anxiety myself.

The more I thought, the more it seemed that way. I just hope it's some sort of hypochondriac bullshit, but part of me doesn't think so.

I live alone, I have no social life to speak of outside of work, I actively avoid talking to people, etc.
Why the hell can I function perfectly with a computer with totally random people on the net?

I dunno, I think I'm just blowing this out of proportion. I hope I am.

>>33450453
"I went to a therapist one and it totally helped!!"