In a week after you receive instructions from Chen Gong, you finally set out with five thousand of your troops to rendezvous with Liu Biao's army to face Yuan Shu's force led by Ji Ling. You are informed that you will meet Liu Biao's army at Jing, and set out to face Ji Ling on the Chang Jiang River. Unfortunately, your forces are small and you have no sizable warships. It would be wise to make good use of your ally.

Before you set out, you have to time to buy some items.

>Stalwart's Spear: 300 gold (Spear, +3 War)
>Killing Edge: 300 gold (Sword, +3 War)
>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)
>Rattan Armor: 150 gold (+1 War, Very strong and light against blades and arrows. More injuries from fire however, and you look like a barbarian)
>Black Blaze: 100 gold (Horse, slightly fast and strong)
>Champion: 150 gold (Horse, +1 Lead, slightly fast and strong)
>White Mark 200 (Horse, +1 War, fast and strong)
>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better)
>Treaties on the State: 250 gold (+5 Pol)
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>On Stratagems: 150 gold (Int +2)
>Trickery and Deceit: 200 gold (10% roll when doing plots and ploys)
>Public Works: 100 gold (Pol +1, better city improvement)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)
>General's Fan: 75 gold (Lea +1)
>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570642
Awww yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbk65A8gOj4&list=PLA57AF5CEA0F8D4E7&index=2

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

Boosting 3 important stats. Charisma has proven itself to be important, but we also need to be boosting Leadership and Intelligence at the same time.

>>33570651
>better city improvement)
Could you expand upon this?

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)

Sun tzu we are not but we need leadership & Int

also I think if we have the chance we should recruit people who have a history with the south namely Wu

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570642
>Trickery and Deceit: 200 gold (10% roll when doing plots and ploys)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570651
>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)
Need more charisma.

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Ah yeah, time for Three Kingdoms!

>>33570686
Seconding this.

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570642
>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)
>Black Blaze: 100 gold (Horse, slightly fast and strong)

>>33570651

>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)

>>33570651
>>33570686
Boost as many stats as we can.

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570701
There will be kingdom building later on. Kingdom will have stats like in the Civilization threads that pop up. The item will make it more effective.

>>33570651
This
>>33570707

>>33570791
That'd probably be a good thing to grab then.
But I suppose we'll have to wait since 90% of the votes have already been done.

>>33570791
How much do we get for selling items?
We need a better horse.

>>33570651
>>On Stratagems: 150 gold (Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)
>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)

Sell our old armor to get to 400.

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

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>>33570813
>>33570791
>tfw being the minority

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Brothers, let's do this.
>>33570651
>art of war
>army banner

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

As we've seen, cha is important in making sure our interactions work.

>>33570651
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)
>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570791

Do we have a map?

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570813

I want to know if it boosts our subordinates as well.

If we leave the city improvement to Yu Fan or Yan Jun as I predict we will, then the item would be useless unless it boosts them as well.

>>33570977

I think that it might actually be a boost to our income.

>>33570878
Plus you know, the whole we will be working closely with our ally. That's going to be a Charisma (and maybe Intelligence) check for sure.

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33571003

That might be useful, but a confirmation from Raian would be needed.

The Pol bonus alone wouldn't be worth it considering our various needs and wants (LDR, INT, CHA, Faster Horse, Better Armor)

>>33571007

Also, the cha upgrades have the cheapest cost to stat point increases:
50 credits for 1 stat point.

>>33570651
200 for the art of war
that leaves us with 185. If selling our old horse gets us 15, we should buy White Mark. If not, Champion. It's like the banner, but better.

>>33570791
Hey Raian just a suggestion but maybe put a time cap on voting say 10 minutes?

>>33571071

Well, the way I see it, its pumping money into making our city a better place. I think such an investment is worth it, on its own and should be looked into.

>Also, raian clarifying.
>laughing cow cows

>>33571105

He probably already does that, he just doesn't say "Voting Over"

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33570651

>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

Let me tell you a story from Romance of how Zhuge Liang got 130k arrows.

Zhou Yu was intent on humiliating Zhuge Liang, and so asked him an impossible feat, gaining 100k arrows on his own, within ten days.

Zhuge Liang laughed, and say he could do it in three, and pledged his life to the order.

Lu Su was asked by Zhuge Liang if he may borrow boats and straw.

Moving forwards with the boats, covered with bales of straw, he calmly sat drinking tea as his non-combatant troops challenged the might of a million of Cao Cao's troops.

However it was foggy on that day, and Cao Cao suspected it was a Wu trap, to lure his forces out. So he simply ordered to have his troops shoot arrows at the enemy, as well as order more troops to aid in the shooting.

Calmly drinking tea, Zhuge Liang's ships accepted the arrows with no casualties, as they all were stuck in the straw. He turned his ships around to gain another side filled with arrows, and then reported back to Zhou Yu.

This mother fucker is the best strategist in the three kingdoms by far. If his prowess was martial instead of strategic, he would easily rival Lu Bu, perhaps even surpass him.
He can also read into people like a mother fucker, as shown exactly by the actions leading up to this incident, he would have no problem controlling Lu Bu's anger, he would most likely be able to tame him, and make sure he becomes a proper commander.

We need this man. Cheng Gong is good, but he is not Zhou Yu or Guo Jia.

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>Be top Sinaboo.
>Wank endlessly over Chinese history/lit.
>Live in China for like a year even though I was absolute shit at the language and fucking hate rice.
>Pine endlessly for a good san guo quest.
>Closest I ever get is Kongming's Sangoku quest or Stratocumulous' Retainer Quest.
>Finally drift off /tg/ for a few months.
>Miss ten threads of this.
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU-

>>33570642
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

We have a battle to fight

>>33570651
>Art of War: 250 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33570651
>>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)
>>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33571201
We'd need to sit on his front lawn for like a fucking week in order to just talk to him. that's time we can spend on other things than an overblown strategist.

inb4 folks get salty when interactions with other characters dont go well because of a lack of cha

Also, Raian, final destination?

>>33571201
your specially if we're going hard mode Wei soon.

Guys, you can stop voting now. The winners pretty much been decided a while ago.

>>33571201

Historical Zhuge Liang wasn't the best strategist. His Northern Expeditions were counterproductive and easily stopped. Liu Bei and Zhang Fei were superior battlefield commanders.

Lu Su, Lu Meng, and Lu Xun are our native strategists and Zhuge Liang isn't going to want to serve Lu Bu anyway.

Better to get a Pang Tong and Xu Shu instead.

>>33571251
inb4 folks get mad when we lose this giant fight because we wasted money on shit we don't need right now

>>33571251
>>33571282

We know for certain that our LDR and INT will go up by +2.

We are squabbling over whether our LDR goes up +1 or our CHA goes up +2.

This isn't a huge fucking deal. CHA is important for talking with our allies, convincing enemy generals to defect, and quickly placating captured enemy cities.

LDR is an important base stat, but we are fairly strong at it and getting a +2 bonus. A +2 CHA bonus will serve us better than a +1 LDR I suspect.

>>33571317
>deliberatly going MAD when not required

You people are bad at this.

>>33571244
>an overblown strategist.
Thanks to Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu's forces, Cao Cao's forces of a million were crushed.
If we are to stay in Wu territory, we must act as Wu does towards Wei, especially now that Wei has lost the thorn in it's side that was Lu Bu.

Either we must go on an offensive after taking Yuan Shu, or we must use Wu's natural moat as a defense against Wei's assault. After he takes Yuan Shao, we will have little chance to defeat him unless we immediately take up the attack.
And even that is unlikely considering he absorbs Yuan Shao's dying force into himself, and we will be exhausted troop-wise after Yuan Shu unless we pull some strategic bullshit.

>>33571281
>attempting to follow an RPG-style of the novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel by Luo Guangzhong.
Zhuge Liang in Romance, is an absurd bastard with almost super natural abilities, much like Lu Bu.

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>>33571201
he also started shu down the road to ruin

>>33571282
We're going on campaign against.

If we go by the previous one, this is probably a year long affair with multiple battles and character interactions.

With large pitched battles and multiple generals on our side, 1 point in leadership will have a minuscule effect.

However, in character interaction, there is only our cha stat and its a little abysmal right now.

>>33571201
Problem is that Zhuge Liang, while smart, also stuck with the three kingdoms plan which was 'civil war forever'. Honestly, I'd go for Pang Tong than Zhuge, or the strategist Liu Bei had before Zhuge. They are both pretty smart and lack the cockyness of Zhuge or Sima Yi.

Besides, if he is Lu Bu of the mind, do you REALLY want him near Lu Bu to manipulate to his whim?

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>>33571343
No, that was BENEVOLENCE

>this is what shufags want us to be

>>33571343
>Zhuge liang
>leading shu to ruin

Nigga he was the only thing stopping Sima yi from curb stomping Shu.

>>33571352
>also stuck with the three kingdoms plan which was 'civil war forever'.
But we are in a world where Two Kingdoms seems more likely.
Liu Biao and us, VS Wei, is most likely.

And in such a case, Zhuge Liang's strategies will be needed.
>I'd go for Pang Tong than Zhuge, or the strategist Liu Bei had before Zhuge
Xu Shu and Pang Tong will be essential in the long run. We cannot have simply one strategist after all.

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(Art of War and Gold Medallion bought. -300 gold. Also, 75 gold every 3 months has been much too generous and overpowering. Will be reduced to 50 gold for balance.)

You set on early morning with your army in tow. To your side, Lingqi grumbles slightly.

"It feels as though we are relying on Liu Biao for the next battle. What are the people to say when we cannot defend our own kingdom by ourselves?"

"We are using Liu Biao as he is using us. Liu Biao needs us in order to compete with both Yuan Shu and Cao Cao. In the grand scheme of things and the bigger picture, we should use Liu Biao's reinforcements to our content," you reply." Besides, you may have a chance to see your sister now."

"There is merit to Lady Lingqi's words, however," Zhang Liao says intervening. "If we rely too heavily on Liu Biao, he may use this to debt us in the future. It would be wise to show our strength in the next battle as well."

You nod to Zhang Liao. The army travels for a few days, before arriving at the Chang Jian river where boats are prepared. You traverse the waters to Liu Biao's territory, and after another few days, you see Liu Biao's grand army at the coast. Unlike your forces, Liu Biao's navy is much larger and had bigger warships on command. You make a note that in the future, you should improve your navy if you want to have a stronger standing in the South.

You anchor your ship at the coast, move out to meet with the commander in charge. A number of Liu Biao soldiers whisper and remark about your force, having heard of Lu Bu and yourself who has been his second most helping hand. At the beach, a man comes to greet you. He is a lanky man, with a wispy mustache and a small beard.

"Greetings," he says with a smile. "I am Cai Mao, General of the Waves and commanding this force. A pleasure to meet you, General Zhu."

>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly
>Greet Cai Mao in a friendly fashion

>>33571352

Fa Zheng? I prefer him to Zhuge Liang as well, but he's in Yi province.

Pang Tong is who I want to go for, along with all of Wu's strategists except Zhou Yu

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly
Let's impress them with our martial nature.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao in a friendly fashion

Do not piss of the admiral.

>>33571358
That Webm needs some context.
Zhao Yun had literally fought against 10000+ of Cao Cao's warriors, dived around the front lines to grab a fucking infant, and surviving all of that, as well as being an absurdly good leader of troops and warrior.
It's no surprise a baby wasn't higher on the priority

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

Oh shit, it's Cai Mao

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

They are our allies in this battle no need to be stern nor too friendly besides that 15000 is a great contribution to our cause

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect
>>Greet Cai Mao in a friendly fashion

As a capable admiral, we should know of his powress.

Greet him respectfully and thank him for coming to our aid.

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao in a friendly fashion
This man is a traitorous and ambitious bastard, we need to be careful but not be cold.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao in a friendly fashion
He's all smiles and pleasant. Might as well reciprocate.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao in a friendly fashion

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly
Let's not have them think we're a chummy push over.

>>33571457

Hes less likely to attempt to defect this time, since Lady Cai will not initiate a takeover of the liu household.

>>33571394
Zhuge Liang was the one initiating the campaigns north into wei, Wei was in a defensive stance for every one of them. Sima Yi did a grand job of repelling him at every opportunity. Sleepy Dragon was under the assumption that Shu was a naturally weaker state than Wei was and Shu would eventually be overpowered and swallowed up by Wei.

>>33571400
Cai Mao is a villainous cocksucker, treat him professionally and sternly. Let's not get too buddy buddy.

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

For someone self-centered like Cai Mao, this is definitely the best way.

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571400
Hmmm... honestly? I'd say be professional at first, followed up with some respect for his position. He is a great admiral, but he should understand that we can be more pleasant once Yuan's forces are repelled. Besides, we don't want to seem weak since it will look bad with our forces.. and we really don't want that as Zhang said.

Are we still planning on marrying our sister to Zhang Liao?

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571394
Zhuge Liang's Northern Expeditions basically set the Shu in a decline. Although it was Jiang Wei who went full retard in trying to follow his mentor's example.

You also overrate Sima Yi tremendously. Cao Zhen, Hao Zao, and Zhange He were all arguably more successful than Sima Yi in fending off Zhuge Liang.

Besides, Cao Wei and Sun Wu were the real contenders of that era. The Northern Expeditions were a sideshow in comparison.

>>33571550

I'd say Gao Shun.

Zhang liao does already have a wife.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao in a friendly fashion
Really don't want to be this guy's friend

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly
All business until we win. We don't want people thinking we depend on Liu Biao.

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

This guy is a snake

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571515
>See possible traitor
>Treat him coldly

You can't fail a social interaction this hard.

>>33571550

Yes, or Gao Shun.

Sister would be Zhang Liao's second wife, but that wouldn't really matter. Gao Shun is unmarried.

>>33571457
>>33571513

Hmm, if we befriend him, do you think we might be able to use him when Liu Biao dies?

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

I'd prefer friendly, but sternly is the wrong way to go.

I don't care what the meta knowledge says, you don't want to alienate the leader of the allied forces.

>>33571515
>Cai Mao is a villainous cocksucker, treat him professionally and sternly. Let's not get too buddy buddy.

We can turn him into OUR snake

>>33571589

Possibly but not too likely. Ma

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

We're here to win a war

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571620
No, we can't. We can waste time and then get backstabbed anyway. You people are stupid. Your fucking moronic +2 cha item will not let us use our second lowest stat to any effect.

>>33571621

Not just that, this is an opportunity to build ties with our allies so that we don't turn on each other when cao cao comes.

>>33571515
and he wasn't wrong from essentially day one the Shu/Wu alliance was the only thing holding off Wei when that broke it was all over in the grand scheme of things, Zhuge liang was trying to be preemptive in gaining the upper hand with his northern expeditions unfortunately they almost always completely failed thanks to Sima yi.

>>33571558
Fair point but I think we're forgetting that the Initial contention is that Zhuge liang is a massive asset to our faction which he is considering we're sorely lacking strategists at the moment.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571668

Zhuge liang isn't going to join lu bu anytime.

If you think he will, I think you misread his personality. Even Yu Fan had misgivings about joining and he joined Sun Ce happily.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly
Fucking shufags trying to turn us away from being a fighting general

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly
Backstabbers are kept at arms length, thanks.

>>33571703
Go ahead, why wouldn't Zhuge Liang, a man who wished to shape his lord to his own wills and ways, not wish for a master with the intelligence of a child?

>>33571738
Even Lu Bu greets people warmly friend.

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

We're a general, not an asskisser.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly
this please

>>33571400
greet cai mao in a friendly fashion

>>33571721
>>33571717
>>33571711
>>33571697
>>33571695
This surely doesn't look like any sort of proxy faggotry here.
Christ, we've already gone to 128 posts and we've only done two actions.
What the fucking hell?

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

so much samefag in this thread

>>33571753
Because Sleepy Dragon wanted to restore the Han? Who knows what Lu Bu even wants at this point.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

why are people falling over themselves trying to be an asskisser?

>>33571668
>Zhuge liang was trying to be preemptive in gaining the upper hand with his northern expeditions unfortunately they almost always completely failed thanks to Sima yi.

You are giving Sima Yi too much credit.

Zhuge Liang launched 5 expeditions, the first 3 failed with Cao Zhen as the Wei commander in chief. (Zhang He and Hao Zhao playing major roles)

Sima Yi was only in charge for the last two. Shitty supply lines was what really made Zhuge Liang turn back, which probably means the Northern Expeditions weren't viable in the first place.

Sima Yi also got Zhange He killed as well.

>>33571703
Why don't we just capture him and break one of his fingers every time one of his strategies doesn't work?

>>33571400
>Greet Cai Mao with praises and respect

>>33571703
no I realise that Lu bu is too contrasting to Zhuge liang in Ideology for him to join but he would be an asset regardless.

>>33571726
>>33571734
>>33571759
>>33571771

And this isn't proxy faggotry?

>>33571789
So Sleeping Dragon makes sure that Lu Bu thinks the han is a good thing.
There we go.

You're seriously underestimating how gullible Lu Bu is here.

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So, it seems this has once again become samefag central.. My body wasn't ready for this

>>33571827
>a quest on /tg/ plagued by samefags

who would've forseen this

>>33571703
no I realise that Lu bu is too contrasting to Zhuge liang in Ideology for him to join but he would be an asset regardless.

>>33571798
right Thanks for the history lesson anon!

Raian for the love of god put a cap on voting.

>>33571827

This would be mitigated if only Raian would post at the top of the thread:

"Only votes in the first 10 minutes count"

It wouldn't stop the samefagging, but at least the thread wouldn't be overwhelmed by samefags 20-30 minutes in.

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571400
>>Greet Cai Mao professionally and sternly

>>33571753

Because fundamentally, what Lu Bu wants is not very reconcilable with what Zhuge Liang hopes to achieve.

Zhuge Liang wishes for a three kingdom system to ensure peace. Lu Bu just wants to fight. Even in such a stalemate, he will choose to attack. That is not sugoi for such a system to work.

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You clasp your hands together, and bow to Cai Mao. You have heard that this man is the brother to Lady Cai, the mother of Liu Biao's second son who has married Lu Bu's daughter. You have also heard that this man has many schemes under his belt, and does his very best to retain high position within Liu Biao's retinue. You dislike his character, and decode to not act too friendly towards him.

"An honor to meet you General," you say sternly. "I hope that we will repel Yuan Shu's forces together."

"Hmph, yet, you bring an army so small and without even any warships," another voice says coming to the side of Cai Mao. An older man, with a bushy beard and sullen eyes rubs his beard as he looks over your forces.

"Come now, General Huang Zu. War is not always about numbers and weapons. The forces of Governor Lu Bu have proven themselves capable at the Southlands," Cai Mao says with a laugh and wave of his hand.

"Hmph, let us hope so," Huang Zu repletes back with a scoff. An unpleasant, and somewhat rude man.

>Ignore Huang Zu
>Throw a small slight against him

>>33571814
bitch did you just call me a fucking samefag. I'm 33571771 and fuck you for accusing me.

>>33571884
>>Ignore Huang Zu

Raian, please clarify what your voting time limit is. This thread gets taken to the bump limit so fast because of samefags voting 20-30 minutes in.

>>33571884
>>Ignore Huang Zu
who is this faggot and why should we care about him

Sure, so 10 minute voting cap then.

>>33571884
>other
>Greet him with proper decorum as the situation demands

We are not as petty.

>>33571811
>>33571861
>Lu bu is too contrasting to Zhuge liang in Ideology
Lu Bu's ideology in the novels was
"I want two things in life."
"Diaochan and power."
With slight hints of Might Makes Right.

But even in that he did not hold onto it very well.

>>33571878
Zhuge Liang once objected to saving the peasantry that Liu Bei wished to bring along with him.
But he knows how to manipulate people, how they feel, how they think and work. And Lu Bu, despite his low intelligence, is perfectly capable of reasoning.

>>33571884
>Ignore Huang Zu
We can smirk his way when we prove him wrong.

>>33571884
>Ignore Huang Zu
Why should we care? We'll prove ourselves in battle.

>>33571913

Killed Sun Jian, one of Liu Biao's most influential and high ranked generals.

>>33571884
>>Ignore Huang Zu

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>>33571827
Hey I just got here. If I wanted to same fag I wouldn't know where to start. Speaking of which why the hell do we work for Lu Bu? What year is it? Who are we really?

Aw fuck it.

>Abandon current lord and apprentice our self to Zuo Ci.

>>33571906
I feel sad that I lack the proper copypasta gif for this occasion.

>>33571923
This.
No need to do anything rude.

>>33571923
THIS

>>33571884
>Ignore Huang Zu

For God's sake why bother slighting an ally of ours.

>>33571884
ignore huang Zu

>>33571946
You might want to read the previous threads before jumping in with stupid suggestions.

Then again, considering the samefags in this thread it doesn't really matter.

>>33571884
>ignore Huan Zu
Don't want to start an alliance out on the wrong foot

>>33571923
Supporting this.

>>33571884
>Other, "Well fuck you too faggot."

>>33571923
Do this please

>>33571884
>Ignore Huang Zu

>>33571924
It's evident in his actions that he was of the Might makes right mindset

>>33571884
>>33571923

>Greet him with proper decorum as the situation demands
Better than you in every way.

>>33571946

It's year 195. We are serving Lu Bu because we decided to work under Dong Zhuo and rolled a 92 at the start.

We started as a Lt, worked our way up to Guard Captain in Chang'an and planned Dong Zhuo's assassination with Lu Bu.

We became Lu Bu's second in command, but Jia Xu kicked us out of Chang'an and we met up with Chen Gong.

We headed South and took over most of Yangzhou in a series of campaign.

It's the year 195, read the archives before voting on important decisions.

>>33571884
>Ignore Huang Zu
Fuck this scrub.

What is the barking of a dog to a tiger?

>>33571990
>>33571923
changing to this

>>33571884
>>33571923
This.
And why not throw some praises his way. He did beat Sun Jian after all.

>>33571923
Best option

>>33571990
>It's evident in his actions that he was of the Might makes right mindset
Indeed he was.

But it was also evident in his actions in Romance that he was a self-indulgent asshole who didn't really stick to any ideology or person unless it suited him.

>>33572004
Nah man, we're a relocated northerner. Trying to take the Sun tiger schtick won't end well.

>>33571884
>>33571923
Supporting

>>33571861

Read up on Siege of Chencang when you get the chance.

It's like Zhang Liao 2.0 except Hao Zhao was up against Zhuge Liang himself.

He fended off an army of 100,000 with just 1,000 men.

>However, Zhuge Liang was outwitted by Hao Zhao that when the former laid his hand on the entrenchment, the latter had already seen through his intention and started building interior walls within the boundaries of the original walls.[5] As long as the siege towers could not pass the first walls, the soldiers on top of the towers who managed to overcome the outer walls could not climb the second inner walls. Trapped inside the two gates of walls, those soldiers who descended from the towers became easy target for archery practice.

>>33571923
Do this

>>33572045
Remember, we're going Romance, not historical.

>>33572076

Really? Where is that stated?

>>33572076

Did the second Northern Expedition not happen in Romance?

>>33572089
>attempting to follow an RPG-style of the novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel by Luo Guangzhong.
Very first thread, very first post.
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/32664983/#32664983

>>33572090
I'm not saying it didn't, it's simply that a lot of things are changed.

Are most anons still down with this?

>If we can't marry Lingqi by 25-26, then we have to move on generics or easy waifus for the purpose of having heirs

>Marry off sister to Zhang Liao or Gao Shun asap

>>33572114

Sorry, didn't mean to sound snide. I'm genuinely curious as to whether they included that defeat in Romance given how much Zhuge Liang is hyped up in the novel.

>>33572141
>>If we can't marry Lingqi by 25-26, then we have to move on generics or easy waifus for the purpose of having heirs

No.

No we cannot.

We absolutely have to marry Lingqi.

Because if we don't, succession for our side is fucked and Liu Biao's side has a claim to our faction.

>>33572141
I think we should hold off on our sister for now.
Personally I would like to save her for Sun Ce/Quan, if we can manage to get them to defect.

>>33572141
No. Lingqi is a lost cause, and I personally have no interest in trying to waifu someone we need high average rolls to get.

Drop her like a bad habit.

>>33572164

Ah, shit, I completely forgot about that. Never mind, Lingqi for political reasons then.

We'll have to marry off both brother and sister soon then. We are going to need new family members.

>>33572180
I don't care for Lingqi, but I want Zhu Xing's sons to have a claim to Lu Bu's empire and not Liu Cong's whelps.

I don't want to have fucking Cai Mao and Huang Zu as our bosses.

>>33572210
So marry lingqi off to someone who'll deal with her bullshit and get a harem of nice generics for ourselves.

>>33572223
Why have both?
Sima Yan had over 3000 Concubine.

>>33572180
No she fucking isn't fuck we just can't do the Typical wine & dine Romance to her, Raian clearly stated we have to pay attention to her character & since she is a Tomboy archetype we fight & bleed alongside her or alternatively forciablly have our way with her or someshit and take responsability.

fuck their a whole bunch of alternatives but if we intend to give Linqi the kettle at least listen to Raians advice.

>>33572247
Because Lingqi is 'hard mode' which means frigid cunt and thus just a waste of turns

>>33572269
We'd probably get a spouse-combat bonus if we fight with her though, which will happen. A lot.

>>33572256
We could just, you know, ask Lu Bu since its ultimately his decision. tell him that we're the best son he's going to get.

>>33572223

That means handing the keys to the kingdom to someone else.

Do you not want to be the regent for our faction?

>>33571884

>>33571923
Supporting this. We're here to kick ass, not deal in petty shenanigans.

>>33572256
And then we roll badly and the turn we used trying to seduce her is wasted. Repeatedly

Great plan, anon.

>>33572180
>>Lost cause

The pastebin clearly states she's our second highest relationship. Also, we need to marry her if we're to become Emperor and Empress.

>>33572223
The question is who?

Zhu Xing is pretty much the default option because they would be scared off by Lingqi.

Marrying Lingqi off to the wrong person would also have negative consequences as we might become subordinate to them.

Lingqi is honestly the best option for continuation.

>>33572300

Hey.

+2 cha

>>33572300
That's were our skill comes in.

>>33572289
>implying a figurehead was never controlled from the shadows

>>33572323

Dude, the heir lineage would be the Lu Bu -> Lingqi -> our son

We'd be the ones controlling and directing until our son is of age.

>>33572316
Such a waste of money.

>>33572300

How many turns have we actually wasted on Lingqi without getting a tangible relationship bonus?

Honest question before I go archive hunting.

>>33572300
see this is why we need Cha

>>33572283
Fair point but where's the fun in that?

>>33572344
4 or so. We only got boosts in 2 interactions.

>>33572344

1 turn.

>>33572344
1. Every other time we've talked to her we've had a relationship boost.

"I assure you General, our forces will contribute to the war effort," you reply to Huang Zu who looks at you in a slightly annoyed expression. "You have experience in fighting Yuan Shu. I should hope under that we may find victory in the field."

Huang Zu looks away, apparently placated. Cai Mao laughs once again, and speaks up with a smile to overturn the slightly awkward situation. The man has a way with words, if nothing else.

"Come, let us discuss plans for the next battle," he says gesturing to you and Huang Zu in to the command office. Inside, maidens are quick to set up some wine and cups as you sit down with the other two officers of Liu Biao.

"We are meeting Yuan Shu's armies at the Chang Jian," Cai Mao states as he takes a sip of his wine. "The winds blow south during this time of the day, so Yuan Shu has that going for him. We are informed that Ji Ling is leading the troops along with Chen Lan, Lei Bao, and the young Sun Ce."

Huang Zu scoffs.

"The little pup is coming out to? I shall grant him a grave in these waters and see to it that he sees his father soon. It is I that defeated Sun Jian and killed Yuan Shu's best general," Huang Zu boasts.

"In any case, I have already developed a plan to defeat these inexperienced men who have never seen naval war," Cai Mao states. "We will begin with a swift attack at the center of their formation, feign defeat, and retreat luring most of their forces to attack. Those men who know nothing of naval warfare will smell victory, and sally forth their sails. We will keep our best warships in station, and make a counterattack once we draw them in."

The movements of the ships and next few details are slightly complicated as Cai Mao indicates them with toy pieces on the table. A petty snake or not, it seems Cai Mao knows his thing when it comes to naval warfare.

"Where shall you take command?" Cai Mao asks, turning to look at you.

>Participate as the lure force
>Take the right side
>Take the rear and reserves

By the way.
Zhuge Liang in romance also knows sorcery.

>>33572344
One, and that was because we rolled badly.

>>33572344
Just once.

>>33572344
Well the last time we tried didn't seem to yield much results. That and I think the very first time didn't turn out too well.

All In all I think we've interacted with her 4-5 times and her status is she "Appreciates" us, which is about the same as how several of our officers feel about us

>>33572339

I don't see why anyone would be against boosting CHA when its useful in so many ways.

CHA isn't just for waifu or shufags. CHA is for recruiting generals and strategists, convincing others to adopt your plan, and governing our territory.
Raian already said that we aren't exclusively a fighting general, CHA is an essential stat since we can't use advisors to make p.

>>33572368
>Participate as the lure force
"I have been reading Sun Tzu's art of war, I could also try to create dissent within their ranks by asking for a meeting with Sun Ce."

>>33572368
>>Take the right side

Guys, our men have little to no experience in naval combat. Participating as the lure force is going to be extremely dangerous against fucking Sun Ce.

>>33572368
>>Take the right side

Our forces is a fast heavy hitting unit.

Us acting as the lure would not work well, since I believe they would not expect me and my generals to so quickly attempt to retire from the field.

>>33572402
This.
LIVE ON THE EDGE

>>33572368
>Participate as the lure force

>>33572368
>>Participate as the lure force
We can't have them take all the glory, as Zhang Liao pointed out.

>>33572368
>>Take the right side

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Remember that Sun Ce's mother lives in captured territory.

>>33572368
>Take the right side
We don't have the men to lose to be the lure force.

>>33572441
On second thought, take the right side: >>33572368

>>33572368
>Participate as the lure force
It seems the most risky (I think anyway), therefore it will earn our considerably small force much more glory and prove ourselves in the eyes of our allies

>>33572368
>Take the right side

>>33572394
They'll realize this only when it's too late

>>33572368
>>Participate as the lure force

we should take this opportunity to try & net the Sun family, their history with the South would help us sooth our ruling of the south.

>Take the right side.

>>33572394
Yeah, but since /tg/ is filled with min/maxing retards, anything that doesn't help out WAR or LEAD stat is deemed as useless.

The only stat that I would say is useless to our character is POL, and even then I can see a few situations where knowledge of the political climate would be a very handy thing to have.

>>33572368
>Take the right side
Lure force is what our allies would want, but it could weaken us too badly.

>>33572368
>>Take the right side

Moderation is key here

>>33572456
Wei expedition soon friend

>>33572368
>Participate as the lure force

>>33572368
We will take the right side.


Also, everybody. I have a great plan. We find a way to kill Huang Zu and present his head to Sun Ce and tell him his homeland is waiting for him if he joins with the invincible Lu Bu. It could totally backfire and get everybody we know and love killed but it sounds metal as fuck.

>>33572368
>Take the right side

>>33572368
>Take the right side

Less casualties is better at the moment imo.

Also as a side note, we should totally give up Huang Zu to Sun Ce sometime in exchange for his loyalty and a place on his father's birthplace.

>>33572488

We can make up for POL by having keen political advisers like Yu Fan.

We can make up for intelligence somewhat with strategist, but it's useful to have high intelligence for obvious reasons.

LDR, WAR, and CHA are individual stats.

>>33572517
That's a terrible plan. Kill the Suns and be done with it.

>>33572517
We're in a great position to do so actually.

>>33572443
>>33572463
I don't think we'd get that much glory with being the lure force. All it'll do is deplete our already small force.

I say we
> Take the right side
We can still earn glory without stupidly getting our soldiers killed

>>33572517
Oh shit I like you

changing my vote to
>Take the right side

>>33572517
>>33572526

Are you fuckers serious? Don't betray Liu Biao like an ingrate.

Sun Ce's going to just Lu Bu the Lu Bu anyway.

>>33572533
By doing that you lose:
Sun Ce - Expert War general
Zhou Yu - Expert War strategist (Beats Cheng Gong by far)
Sun Quan - Expert leader
Every single other Wu General in Shu.

>>33572368
>Take the right side
Right side fits as way to get glory without needlessly getting our men killed.

>>33572368
>>Take the right side
We are good ground fighters. After this we will need to work on navel troops.

>>33572368
> Take the right side

We should let the forces with Naval experience take the key task, but we don't want to look like we're not putting ourselves in danger either.

>>33572508
I think he's still occupied with Yuan Shao.

>>33572531
Yeah, advisers can help with that, but if someone asks us during a private conversation about what we think of *insert political issue here*, than we'll be shit out of luck.

>>33572517
>>33572538
>>33572552

>The campaign went good for the most part, besides some ridiculous and bizarre plans being sent out there. As a note, doing really complicated plans that you would see in anime or something will likely not work in these situations

This is the exactly the type of thing Raian was talking about.

Don't propose "metal as fuck" plans because Raian will make sure you fall flat on your case.

>>33572517
Your plan is bad and you should feel bad also.

>>33572568
No, by taking him in we are guaranteed to lose everyone in Wu when he turns on us. This plan is utter idiocy.

>>33572568

No, the only Wu generals with Sun Ce are Huang Gai, Cheng Pu (who we want to kill anyway), Han Dang, and Lu Fan.

The famous Wu generals like Lu Meng, Gan Ning, Lu Xun, Lu Su, Ling Cao/Tong are all in our territories.

We harbor Sun Ce and we might lose those famous generals. Sun Ce will never submit to a Lu Bu. He is far too ambitious.

>>33572568
Not to mention Ce was an officer magnet, and we'd be sacrificing a ton of naval commanders too.

>>33572583
who cares if we fail. I'd rather do something cool that gets us killed than something boring that gets us 5 more china points in the game, emphasis game, we are playing.

>>33572517
Do you want us to become like Shu and backstab our allies?

>>33572607

And Zhou Yu as well, but we are not going to recruit fucking Zhou Yu when he's Sun Ce's sworn brother.

>>33572581
yeah but if we Intend to even stand a chance we need to get up in his shit as soon as possible.

>>33572583
oh you're still here?

>>33572613
>he wasn't around at chang an

Yeah, newfags should be silent.

>>33572368
>>Take the right side

We have absolutely no naval experience, we'd most likely just end up having our own troops wrekt by taking the most dangerous jobs.
Leave this to Cai Mao, he has soldiers to spare. We don't.

>>33572616
Yup it's the other kind of shufag.

>>33572555
>>33572583
We don't need to openly betray Liu Biao.
First of all, we simply need to make it so Sun Ce knows where Huang Zu is, he can take that from there. Second, under implied threat of his mother being killed, and the direct threat of Yuan Shu's inferior forces being crushed by ours, we give him a chance to escape.
Finally, we tempt him with an offer of being back in the Southlands. This isn't some sort of "Anime-style" plan, this can actually work.

>>33572630
Bitch i was at chang an. We lost a battle.Oh no. I didnt cry like a bitch. We learned that Lu Bu does not have good plans and ended up getting Taishi Ci.

>>33572641
Nah, it's the same kind of shufag.

>>33572648
Your plan is terrible. How could you come up with something so bad?

>>33572650
Xiahou Dun told me there are more than 79 distinct species of Shufag. You're going to have to be more specific.

>>33572667
Mind pointing out some of the flaws?

>>33572628
What are you talking about? Look, I've seen you follow Sominus quests. Raian has a similar approach when it comes to failures.

He wants realistic plans and he's going to penalize people if they do really elaborate, unrealistic plans.

He's not going to make sure something goes right just because it's cool.

I mean, that's been very clear throughout these 10 threads and his own Q&A. Another quest might make these plans work, but this isn't it.


>>33572613

I can handle failure, but I'm not going to intentionally choose failure because it might be cool.

>>33572673
Xiahou Dun has a hateboner for Guan Yu so of course he has that kind of shit classification. Over here in not-crazy land there are just shufags who lie, cheat, betray and then try to talk their way out of it by screaming BENEVOLENCE

>>33572682
It's overly complex. It requires everyone to do the things you want instead of something else. It points a giant fucking dagger at our own heart for no gain whatsoever.

You're bad at this. You should feel bad.

>>33572613
>>33572613
That is the play style that I normally enjoy, but there is Badassery in employing even the most simple of plans m80.

A simple pincer movement or a well-placed ambush can be extremely gratifying

>>33572689
It might not fail. Maybe not this battle. maybe not brazenly or in a way that tells Liu Biao we are totaly shitheads. But the plan could work. Our plan to get Taishi Ci could have failed too and it was, while not complicated, risky. We rolled high. I'm not saying we should do it if most people don't want to. But if enough people want to get Sun Ce we have possibilities. At the end of the day, its up to the group though. We can at least try to make Sun Ce defect.

>>33572689
and how is this not a realistic plan?

he could easily drown or take an arrow/sword to the back in the thick of combat, hell he's a glory hound that makes it even more likely to happen, we're merely helping the natural process a little.

>>33572713
It requires a single audience with Sun Ce, which would prove no danger to us.

Whether he chooses to act upon it and defect, is his choice.

No danger, aside from that Huang Zu may have a tiger after him.
But is that trouble really?

>>33572682
Not him, but here goes.

1. Sun Clan's powerbase is in the Southlands, he's historically more popular than us there.

2. Zhou Yu is his strategist and Sun Ce harbors great ambitions, we won't be able to control him. We are basically another Yuan Shu to him.

3. If we fuck up Huang Zu, the Liu Biao forces will be greatly diminished and we might easily lose the battle. This gives Yuan Shu the chance to roll up our territory.

4. If our treason is exposed, the Liu-Lu alliance is broken and Lu Bu should rightfully have our head.

5. It's overly complex and if any single part fails, it's going to collapse spectactularly.

6. There's basically no benefits here. Sun Ce is another Wang Lang in terms of trustworthiness, except 1000x more dangerous.

>>33572735
It requires Sun Ce to not rip apart our army after we present a giant weakness to him. It requires our own commanders to not try and reinforce said weakness. It requires Sun Ce to actually have a shot at killing this guy and not just routing his forces while he runs away. It requires Sun Ce to retreat after he rips apart one of our divisions.

No, your plan is terrible.

>>33572735
>A single audience with Sun Ce would prove no danger to us.

This is not true at all, if anyone sees us it could rupture our alliance, and there's no reason to think Sun Ce wouldn't just kick our ass.

>>33572730

The Taishi Ci ploy was relatively simple, and it was a Raian given option, not a write-in.

The penalty for failing the ploy was that we'd have to fight our way into the city.

The penalty for this ploy going wrong is Liu Biao turning on us and ensuring the end of Wu-Bu.

Sun Ce could also leak the meeting to Liu Biao's forces to divide our forces. He would then take us piecemeal by piecemeal and conquer both Jing and Yangzhou for Yuan Shu.

Even if the ploy works, Sun Ce is an ambitious warlord who wants his fatherland as his powerbase. The land that we are occupying.

Taishi Ci was just a different story altogether.

>>33572772
Yeah, we're likely to lose our head faster than Zhang Fei if we get caught telling Sun Ce where Huang Zu is.

>>33572772
Disguise it as a challenge then, we should prove am atch for him.

>>33572811

Or Sun Ce could just tell Liu Biao's forces to break our alliance.

He could take everyone's heads then.

>>33572825

Sun Ce is stronger than us

>>33572758
1. True you are correct. Which is why he and his family will be placed in Shochun, Yuan Shu's conquered territory.

2. Indeed you may be correct here, but this is also why we will be deployed along with him, and attempt to keep him pinned down to us through brotherhood, if it fails, then we can subtly kill Ce, and raise Quan by having him marry our sister.

3. One General can be worth a lot, but Cai Mao is just a worthy a one as he.

4. Treason? We simply told Sun Ce the name of the generals about to take his head, as well as how he would be welcome if he defected.

5. That's the beauty, after the audience it essentially isn't in our hands, it's in Sun Ce's. And if he dies failing it, there'll be Civil war in Yuan Shu's camp as those loyal to the Sun Clan try to protect or save Quan/Ce.

6. Aside from being being curbstomped by the superior forces of Liu Biao and Lu Bu, re-joining into the place of his ancestors, keeping the Imperial Seal, and having a safe place for Quan.

>>33572811
>>33572830

Indeed. Too much risk for very little gain.

>>33572840
B-but we need to spread our points around to every stat, anon

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>>33572804
What if we just gave him the Southlands but asked to borrow Jing Province and then never give it back. That plan couldn't possibly backfire.

>>33572844
>4. Treason? We simply told Sun Ce the name of the generals about to take his head, as well as how he would be welcome if he defected.

Go back to Shu with that shitty justification.

>>33572860
Shufags would cream themselves, for one.

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Your men are lacking experience in naval battles, and as of now, you only command a third of the total forces on your side. Remembering Zhang Liao's words, you think it best to take one of the wings of the formation, where you give results but not be in the thickest of the fighting.

"We will command the right wind," you say to Cai Mao. Once the enemy is lured, we will envelop them from the side."

"So be it. I shall lead the center, and General Huang Zu at the left. I will order Lieutenant General Wen Ping to act as the main task force in luring the enemy. Wen Ping is strong and brave, and I believe him to be up to the task."

You nod in reply. In a brief moment, you look to see Huang Zu who also nods but also looks slightly annoyed. It may be that Huang Zu and Cai Mao do not truly get along well, and the former wants the center. Regardless, you give pleasantries to the others and walk out to prepare for the next day.

On the morrow, you set out with your ships toward the designated battlefield along with Liu Biao's force. Along the way, you notice Lingqi near the ramparts of the main ship, holding her mouth and looking sullen. It seems she is seasick. You move to her side, as she groans in pain.

>Poke fun at her
>Pat her back and help help her down
>Tell her to rest instead of fighting for her safety

>>33572854
Sun Ce's one of the strongest generals of ROTK is my point.

Having all WAR would make us Dian Wei, not a commander in chief.

Raian also said don't expect to use duels to solve everything, so a more balanced approach is necessary.

>>33572869
There can be little pinned on us by simply saying the names of the Generals who are about to crush Yuan Shu's forces.

>>33572854
B-but we need to be an idiot warrior like Lu Bu, anon.

>>33572878
>>Tell her to rest instead of fighting for her safety

>>33572878
>Poke fun at her
then
>Pat her back and help help her down

>>33572878
pat her back and help her down.

ASK if she wants to sit this one out. Don't tell her like we're a concerned father. Ask.

>>33572878
>Pat her back and help help her down
Poor Lingqi
Ah, shit, that's a point, none of our troops are fit for naval combat...

>>33572878
>>Pat her back and help help her down

Would she take well to telling her to rest instead of fighting? Insulting her is obviously out of the question. Would patting her back be seen as condescending?

Fuck it

>>33572904
No, we just need to keep throwing points at our two worst stats and hope that'll matter in the near future. That way we can be equally terrible at everything.

>>33572878
>>Pat her back and help her down
We gentleman.
Les go.

>>33572914
This

>>33572878
>Poke fun at her

>>33572878
>Poke fun at her
Chin up Linqi.

>>33572878
>>Poke fun at her
>>Pat her back and help help her down

Get her a little riled up.

Then remind her that shes is one of our strongest. We need her well rested and at her strongest for the coming battle

>>33572921
>>33572908
Do not ask to do that.
Under no circumstances are we to ask if she doesn't want to fight. Unless she's pregnant.

Seriously guys, that is literally anti-Lu words.

>>33572922
>Ah, shit, that's a point, none of our troops are fit for naval combat...

Thankfully the lure option didn't win

>>33572878
>>Poke fun at her
You people are dumb. She's spent her entire life trying to be one of the guys. If you saw a bro being a little seasick, you'd poke fun at him. Then you'd probably help him out, but poking fun is essential.

>>33572878
>>33572945
This.

>>33572878
Yell at her and tell her that she can hardly expect to fight if she can't even stand up.

>>33572878
>Poke fun at her
>Pat her back and help help her down.
She'll probably puke on us but we'll shrug it off.

>>33572908
Really? This is the only obviously wrong option.

>>33572945
This. I like this.

We dON'T tell her to skip the battle.
Knowing her personality, she'll either take offense or just get mad at us and participate anyway.
We just, watch her back.
But we don't tell her that, or else she might think we're looking down on her.

>>33572878
>Poke fun at her
and then
>Pat her back and help help her down

>>33572965
I like this anon.

>>33572878
>>33572945

Supporting

>>33572878
>Pat her back and help help her down
I don't think poking fun is necessarily the best option, remember last time we were tried to take a jab at her it pissed her off.

>>33572945
>>33572962
This.
But still help her

People keep treating her like a delicate waif instead of one of our top generals.

>>33572878
>>Pat her back and help help her down

>>33572993
It'll be a good lesson for the ones that think continued pursuit of her will end well.

>>33572844
Someone mind countering my plan here?

As it stands it only holds to fracture Yuan Shu's best generals, and recruit us a large amount of generals, and an excellent strategist

>>33572878
>Poke fun at her (lightly)

Linqqi is proud of her fighting abilities, there's no way she'd except not fighting. She's obviously not the type to take uninvited physical contact well, given that we've never touched her like this before. However, her pride means she'll respond well if we goad her into overcoming her weakness.

>>33572878
>Poke fun at her

>>33572878
>>33572914
Seconding this.