Battle brother Marcus Killian stood in the field behind the castle, the green grass growing around large stone squares set some distance apart. He looked up to the blue sky, squinting as if to see the craft that would soon come for him. He stood there in his full armor, helmet in his hands and sword at his side as he waited with the other newly knighted brothers, two others at his sides. He had said his goodbyes to his wife, that had been hard, he didn't know when he would return from Dekara.

There their training was to continue until they were fully accustomed to the use of their new armor, and then they would be given their assignments. In all likelihood they would simply return to their homes to defend Gallorn, but you never could know.

"I am anxious to see Dekara." One of his brothers said, waiting by the landing pad.

Marcus nodded. "As am I brother, it will be my first time on another world... compared to what we will see in our day it may not be much but still, I look forward to feeling that sun, walking the halls of the great fortress of our chapter."

They nodded, continuing to talk for a while before they heard the whine of engines, looking up to watch in fascination as an Arvus light transport swooped down towards them. It was the first time any of them had seen such a flying craft.

>>34197945
Aaaaand there goes all my energy tonight...

Sorry folks, I've got a Rogue Trader character to make and sleep at some point... I think I'll just bump the thread and chat if anyone shows up, but work was annoying and I have a headache and I don't feel like writing for a few hours this morning.

Idea, the chapter is open about its chimeric status... and often the brothers who run around with the rogue traiders will ask other chapters for single gene seed donations after paricularly valorus acts.

Black templars are probably the most common donations, but others trickle in.

This way they could always return a fallen brothers gene seed yet still pick up a wide veriety of heritages.

>>34198026
Perhaps they should contact the IF to get better equipment

>>34198151
Eeeehhh....

Some chapters would probably not be too upset, but then there are others who would flip their shit and declare a crusade over it.

So I think the current situation works alright. Gene seed harvesting is fairly rare, but sometimes you find a body after the chapter has left, or if you're fighting alongside another squad of a different chapter with Imperial Guard and the other marines all get wiped out.

So then you take one, but you don't just go up and ask if you can have it. They're scavengers, not beggars.

Bump.

>>34199477
What do you want?

>>34199646
Who are you?

Also what do you mean by that?

bump

What would interactions between the Tau (as a species, particularly the Water and Fire castes, not their vassal races or Kroot mercs) and the Conservators be like?

>>34200729
Hmm.

Depends on the situation really.

If it was just a 'show up and say hi' thing it would probably be strained civility, no reason to like them but also not hostile and generally hospitable, but certainly not trusting them.

Post battle where they fought together would be much warmer, all debts shall be paid after all, and if someone fought at your side you owe them a seat by the fire as well as food and drink during your victory feast.

Hey guys, I made some rules for conservators in Deathwatch. (More to come, I'm posting it in sections cuz I did a lot)

Conservators

+5 Weapon Skill, Peer (Imperial Citizens), Enemy (Mechanicus)


Additional Rules:

Missing Zygotes:

The consecrators share the same genetic flaw as their Imperial Fist progenitors, and do not have the Sus-an membrane and the Betcher's gland.

Members of the Conservators roll on this table for starting armor:

1-8 Corvus 9-10 Aquila

>>34201700
I like, though I believe Deathwatch has rules for the Mk V armor does it not? The Conservators only have Aquila armor in the amounts that they have salvaged from the dead of other chapters and were not initially issued with any.

>>34201700

Solo Mode Ability: Defenders of Humanity: The conservators have a strong stance when it comes to the protection of the people of the Imperium. Up to a number of times his rank, a Conservator may absorb all the damage directed to an Imperial that is next to him if he succeeds a challenging (-0) agility test.

Squad Mode Abilities

Attack:Improvisers:

Cost: 2: Sustained: Yes.

The members of the Conservators have had a long history of making do with handed down weapons and gear. As long as this mode is in effect, the space marine and all brothers in squad mode may ignore the Unreliable, Unbalanced, and Primitive weapon qualities as long as the weapon is of human make.

Defense:Protector:

Cost 1: Sustained: No

In combat, the Conservators worry about the safety of others much more than themselves. When in squad mode, a Conservator may direct an enemy to attack him next turn if the target fails a Challenging (-0) Willpower test. Improvement: At rank 3, the test becomes Difficult (-10) and at rank 6, it becomes Hard (-20)

>>34201721
It can be changed, this is just the rough draft I made to be tweaked with peer review.

>>34201740
Advances :

Carouse Cost: 100

Carouse +10 Cost: 200

Carouse +20 Cost: 300

Charm Cost: 100

Charm +10 Cost: 200

Charm +20 Cost: 300

Trade (any) Cost: 100

Trade +10 (any) Cost: 200

Trade +20 (any) Cost: 300

Good Reputation (Imperial Citizens) Cost: 800

Blademaster Cost: 500

Exemplar of Honor Cost: 800

Wall of Steel Cost: 700

>>34201781
Chapter Trappings

A letter: A farewell letter addressed to the marine, who it's from is up to the player and GM, but it's contents are sentimental and means much to the marine. He may jealously guard it, or he may be open about what it entails, once again, up to the player. A consecrator who chooses this trapping gains a +3 bonus to willpower checks, as thoughts of home and the letter's author keep his mind clear.

Local Sword: A sword crafted especially for the space marine by the local blacksmith. It's a simple weapon, but could be the sword that the marine used when he was a scout. Despite it's primitive manufacture, it's a formidable weapon when wielded against lightly armored foes.

1d10 +2 Pen 4 Primitive

>>34201799
Conservator pasts:

1. Rouge Trader Guard: The conservators often trade with Rogue Traders for equipment and supplies, and in return, they ask for their protection as they go about their business through their routes. You served upon a rouge trader vessel, and beheld new sights and experiences along the way.

2. Ork Slayer: The conservators' home sector has time and time again been under siege by Orks, and the consecrators have always stood time and time again defending it. You have lead your home village to victory against the green tide, and you are well remembered by your village's residents. Even becoming a local legend.

3. Chaos Loot: After a battle, the conservators often loot their fallen enemies. Sometimes, when the conservators are desperate enough, they will even loot from fallen servants of chaos. When you emerged from the scouts, you were presented your gear, which included loot from a fallen chaos marine. Although the tech priests freed the tormented machine spirit from it and blessed, it would still be a crushing blow to your and your chapter's honor should anyone find out your gear's origin. Discuss with your GM which gear is chaos loot.

4. Scav Runner: The conservator's home world has a nearby dead forge world named Chiron IV with some remaining machinery and equipment, which the conservators desperately need. You and a squad of your brothers were dropped on the planet in search of functional equipment when you stumbled upon a large cache of ammunition, a rare commodity for the consecrators. Your brothers rejoiced as you made a name for yourself as "Master Scavenger".

5. The Grey Warriors: During a major battle against the Orks, the consecrators had the luck of a nearby station of Grey Knights being sent to aid the fight against them. After serving alongside them, you managed to have a conversation with one of the enigmatic space marines before they left your home world.

>>34200774
Would they have even encountered them?

Unless they are on the eastern fringe they will never meet.

>>34201821
Primarch's curse: The Debt.

Level 1: (Legacy of Looters): The consecrator begins to feel inadequate to other, better equipped chapters. His insecurity could stem from his looted equipment, to feelings that he received less training than his squad mates and is holding them back. The brother suffers a -10 to all fellowship based tests when dealing with other space marines, due to the feeling of overwhelming self-doubt he feels from other marines. He also cannot use his chapter's squad mode abilities, as he feels they pale in comparison to the abilities of other chapters.

Level 2: (Guardian): The consecrator begins feeling as though his life means nothing, and starts throwing himself headlong into trouble. Every time an imperial citizen is attacked next to the consecrator, he must pass a hard (-20) Willpower check or use his solo mode ability to absorb the damage. If in squad mode, the marine uses 1 cohesion to use the ability.

Level 3: (Burden): The marine has begun to truly believe he is a burden on his squad mates and that everything given to him is wasted in his hands. He begins to eat less, offering his leftovers to nearby marines, and can only ever use a quarter of his requisition (rounding down) to buy equipment, letting his squad mates use the rest.

>>34201823
I don't know really.

We never established where in space the Asharn March is, other than 'not anywhere really important'.

So there's no reason for them -not- to meet.

>>34201845
And that's about it. If anything needs to be tweaked, just say so.

>>34201869
Most of this looks quite solid to me.

The issue with the armor is easily changed, I would say 1-8 Mk V 9-10 Mk VI as there are only perhaps ten at most Aquila armor sets, and one masterwork Maximus set in service of the chapter.

And the incident with the Grey Knights should be changed to when the chaos warband invaded, instead of random orks, as they deal with those all the time and the Knights would likely be uninterested in that.

Also, their swords are forged upon becoming a full battle brother, rather than being a scout. And they... are possibly being blessed by a holy Knight-given artifact. So they should be weapons which compare favorably to other gear, perhaps lose the primitive rating because they are master crafted weapons using advanced metallurgy?

In general though I think this is all very solid and I'm flattered you'd put this much time into it. You've really gone above and beyond in crafting original rules for them rather than just sticking a bunch of existing ones together and I think it's a very nice showing, thanks a lot!

>>34201937
No problem dude. The armor thing could be changed to just Corvus only, the sword thing was because I thought the swords they used were just made by average Joe blacksmiths, and the Grey Knight/Orks thing was a mistake on my part. All in all, Im glad you liked the rules!

>>34202055
The swords are made with primitive technology, but they're generally made by the most skilled smiths on their particular worlds and then potentially blessed by the titan stone, so while they are just steel blades they're among the best steel blades you'll ever find.

But yes, this all looks good to me.

>>34202078
I had a lot of fun making these rules for them, and I'm glad to see you approve of them.

>>34201854
I'd probably guess not. At least in any number.
They seem to be between Elder and Imperial space, with Ork incursions judging from the previous posts. Do the Tau launch probing attacks and scouts?
Though they probably have similar relations with the Tau as the do the Eldar. Unfriendly, but not hostile.

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>>34198265
>Gene-seed gifts!
Not so fast, brother.

>>34201854
Put them on the south-western galactic edge. I've never heard much about that area in the fluff. Right on the very periphery of charted space. It's on the very, very edge of where the astronomican light gets to.

Except in times of bad warp-weather. In those times, that can last for several years, they are utterly isolated. Record longest time of isolation is 21 years. It was a long winter.

>>34202078
The swords are made exactly as good as they can be. Damascus Steel cooled in specially made vegetable oil product. It's made with the greatest care and skill but at the end of the day it's still a metal plank with an edge.

As the tech-base increases as the generations pass so will the quality of their blades. When they are finished you bet your ass there will all be carrying master crafted power-swords made from some sort of home developed adamantium alloy and coated in synthetic diamond.

But those days are centuries in the future. For now it's steel.

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>>34203395
That would help with little supply shipments too and a only sort-of there presence for the Admin. Although that territory is arguably firmly Imperial already, and the Conservators are generally out of the way..
Somewhere in the Segmentum Tempestus, border of the Veiled Region? There's at least some Eldar activity there and a craftworld. They may meet splinter Tyranids there though, or be fortunate enough to be passed by as the fleet rushed to the Astronomican. In any case, the amount of activity in the segment would justify them being passed over for supplies by anyone aware of them.

Had a thought about going full knight; the conservators have bardic serfs that recite legends of the chapter or company they're in when in battle. To remind all listening the superiority of the Imperium of Man, whether friend or foe.

If a small crusade of Black Templars landed on one of their worlds I wonder how they would react.

Can't be easy to go from centre of everyone's attention to completely ignored.

>>34205217
Not bad.

>>34205219
Depends if the Templars won't go into full zeal.

>>34205219
Quick! Hide the psykers!
...greetings! You, er.. Want to fight some Orks? We got orks. And wheat. Mostly wheat.

>>34203669
Sounds alright to me. The occasional Tau interaction would be alright with me considering they're probably the only other race you could hold a civil conversation with besides the Eldar.

>>34205217
Maybe, though perhaps less serfs to each marine and more archivists of the chapter, appointed record keepers working in libraries filled with scrolls and tomes.

>>34205271
Yes, yeah, orks and wheat that's about it. Hmm? Saw something out of the corner of your eye? No no, no Eldar here, not a one, why do you ask?

>>34206305
But brother, I saw just something that looked like a Eldar behind that wheat.

Behind the mountain of wheat, a Eldar Ranger sits. Completely pale out of fear.

>>34207638
No... I didn't see it. Hmm, let me check brother.

The Conservator walks around the giant haystack, looking at the ranger, making a 'ssh' motion with a finger before toppling the hay over, burying him.

No brother astartes, no eldar here.

>>34207755
Oh, must've been my imagination then.

But that gigantic haystack is pretty suspicious. As if something was covered by it.

Under the mountain of wheat, a Wraithlord was sitting completely immobile. It was lucky that it feared not anymore after its fleshy form died.

>>34207833
Well brother, this is an agriworld, our primary export is wheat, and our secondary export is corn, the Imperium is ever hungry after all, it's good that we have such a large output.

A few hundred feet away a group of panicked aspect warriors are swiftly herded into a barn before the farmers outside begin loudly discussing the weather.

>>34207912
Ah right. Actually I'm quite thirsty from all of this. I heard your taverns serve some fine beer...did you heard that?

>>34207983
Probably another bloody Eld...er Rhino. Have you seen our rhinos? Amazing creatures, let me show you them! ...on the way to the tavern. Yes.

While the imagery is amusing, the Conservators wouldn't have much a reason to defend the Eldar. Instead they'd just encourage people to kill the greenskins first, then we'll get on with the business of Eldar and restoring an entire forgeworld.
Respect isn't friendship, and an Eldar on a Conservator planet that isn't Forgeworld Chiron is surely KOS.

Man, now I feel like I'm spoiling the fun.

>>34208400
All debts will be paid.

If the eldar helped the Conservators in a fight, even for their own reasons, the Conservators would be good hosts and offer them a place around the fire for the night.

It's possible that the relationship could grow into something more over time, but even as it is they wouldn't let their guests be seen by psychopaths in power armor, that would make them bad hosts.

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>>34208300
Delightful brother. And sorry for acting so inquisitively. Last crusade was against Dark Eldar and they showed us that they could stand up to our zeal. Have to admit, they showed us that they were no pushovers, though we did defeat them. Show then the wa...what is this strange feeling?

Forty feet behind the marines, something like a little girl with pointy ears and a human-like face was piggy-back riding something that looked like a Dark Eldar Incubi with enormous Daiklaves.

I don't know Drazhar, maybe daddy isn't here on this planet. The place however looks beautiful.

Responded Lofn to the Living Blade.

I swear brother, it's as if something dreadfully familiar was behind us.

>>34208400
Still they would waltz in to drink some March Beer in secret.

>>34208547
What? Familiar? The only familiar things you'll find on this planet are orks and scant few of them, we wipe them out whenever we can find them.

He made frantic hand waving gestures behind the other marine's back, waving the strange group out of sight.

Now come brother, let us retire to a one of our fine taverns that we might drink together, there are many brews worthy of a battle brother's attention there.

>>34208697
The Incubi noticed the what the marine was doing and before anyone could react, he and the little girl disappeared into thin air. In fact he actually moved so fast that it looked as if he disappeared into thin air.

Maybe you are right. Non-stop purging and zeal made me over-think too much. Lets go then brother.

Meanwhile in the tavern:

I tell you all, It was this big. And it had a lance that was even longer than any of its limbs. And what was worse than this thing having said lance was that the lance pulsed.

The Warp Spider answered the humans and Conservators around him and took a deep one from the mug.

You are lucky you are not Eldar. We have to constantly do this, do that, manipulate here and there. Sometimes our leaders simply shoot themselves in the feet, not to mention what every single one of us have to go through. I have nothing against you all, but sometimes I'd rather have you on our side rather than kill each other. As if struggling with the failures of our ancestors wasn't enough.

And he took another deep one. The Aspect Warrior was clearly drunk.

>>34208926
Yes, of course, should be a good night then.

--

A marine nodded. "Indeed, it is saddening that we seem to get more assistance from your kind than from our own brothers in arms, so many chapters look down their noses at us because of our misfortunes. Whatever the reasons, you fought beside us and it's only right that we show some appreciation for that." He said, drinking malt beer from a massive tankard.

>>34209016
Yaaa know whaaat? You hufans yhourselves ahren't so bhad. I ahctually feel ashhhaaaamed tfat ourrrr Fahrseehrs ahre dhoiiing thiiis khind of thhiiisnngh.

And again he took a deep one. Now he was bombed.

Bwwaaaat whaaat khan I shay? Shurvivhal. Adhed that Elhdrad khnows yhour Empheror's nhame and whont thell anhyone bhecause he hlikes to thoy evhen whit heees own.

Dhid I mhentioned his ghranddhaughter is onh thiis here phlanet? Shees halfh huumanh bhecause his own dhaughter fell in hlove with a Asshasshin. Thoshe Vhindichare onhes.

The Warp Spider was about to take another one, yet one of the marines gently took away his mug. One more and he'd fall completely unconscious.

>>34209190
Yes yes, that's quite a fine tale. Come on now, I think you've had one too many, let's say you go sleep it off.

The marine gently led the tipsy warrior to a hay bed and laid him down on it.

Now please don't try to manipulate the fabric of reality before you are at least sober enough to write a legible sentence.

Returning to the barroom, the door was closed just as the visiting marine came in.

>>34209342
And then the Inquisitor accidentally purged himself instead of the heretics. Can you imagine that? I say it was incompetence, while a part of me thought of it as simply silly.

Well I quickly threw this away as heretical thoughts and finished the work for the late Inquisitor.

The two entered the tavern:

Simple and comfy I say.

>>34205217

Considering the Remembrance, why not a have Company Bard?

Kind of like a skald; amongst his other duties, he's tasked with remembering all of the deeds and names of his Company and composing poems and songs about them.

>>34209493
Hmm.. Serf or Marine? Skald suggests marine to me, but bard or chronicler suggests serf.

>>34209493
I like that.

>>34209522
Would say the Skald would be a more combat oriented dude that works along the Chaplains by Barding into battle with both his power weapons and musical instruments. Deamons seeing someone like that would be stupefied, especially the Khorne ones when they see a marine that cuts down their own as well as he's playing his instrument and sings songs of courage.

The latter two would be serfs.

>>34209522

I was thinking Marine, but I don't know that Skald as a title fits the flavor of the Chapter.

>>34209635

This is what I was getting at: a battle brother like the rest, but his other duty is Remembering.

Dark Eldar guests might be a bit of a stretch though.

>>34209727
Yeah... Skald is more Yiff Marines isn't it? Maybe the Conservators will one day cause that Chapter to mimic that and create their own battle-bard skalds.

Chronicler sounds nice and stately for a marine title though. Bellowing the Epic of Garanius the Seedbearer, the Ballad of McFaber and many detailing the rise and struggle of the Emperor as they do what marines do best.
They do often have a permanent assistant serf called a "Bard" who records and stores tales the Chronicler devises detailing the deeds of the Chapter or Company. Occasionally providing backing instrumental tracks.

>>34210274
Oh yeah. Necron and Delfs are, at best after being forced to kill the same thing and not each other "Good. Now fuck off. I need a goddamn rest."

>>34210366
That said, Necrons dont seem to come into contact with Conservators, and would need a full blown WAAAAGH! from Chiron or a splinter fleet baring down to cause anything other than each killing the other.

>>34210274
That's Drazhar with Lofn. He's helping her find her dad. He's not like other DEldar. He simply kills as opposed to rape and torture.

>>34210274
It's a joke. Please tell me you didn't take everything in this thread seriously!

>>34210905
Eldar overfamiliarity jokes aside, how would the Conservators be thought of by the regulatory factions within the Imperium? Their psyker usage is highly unorthodox, and they're about as Codex-compliant as the Raptors are.

How friendly are they with the Eldar? In orbit around Chiron IV, do they turn a blind eye to Eldar craft for instance, or merely ground troops?

>>34211407
The Conservators simply put, avoid fighting them while the space pixie fairy elves don't go at them due to them being the only guys that shield them from Orks.

>>34211601
"We've detected a ship.. Eldar sir! They're deploying forces on the ground, near the munitions factory in sector 4!"
>"Ah.. Yes, I see the ship."
"Shall I relay the position to the gunnery crew?"
>"There is a major ork stronghold in that factory, isn't there?"
"S-sir?"
>"It is a pity our sensors are malfunctioning, isn't it?"
"Sir, they're working excellently even with the unorthodox repairs we've had to make, they're not expecting an attack, we sh-"
>"Our sensors are malfunctioning, and I expect they'll continue to be so until after that ork presence has been destroyed and that unidentified vessel has left. Understood?"
"Oh. Y-yes sir! I'll um.. go ask the Techs to take a look at them later shall I?"
>"That would be best. Carry on."

>>34212135
These guys are based.

>>34211407
They are so far off the edge of the map that the Black Ships never visited and in all recorded history this patch of space has had one Inquisitorial visit. It was by an elderly Inquisitor who was all but retired and was just doing something to pass the time and this was back in the days when the local forgeworld was more than just ruins.

They watch the elder carefully at all times but the sad thing is that they can't do shit about them even if they wanted. The chapter has very few ships and many are not in the best of shape. Most of the fleet, about half a dozen ships, is guarding the forgeworld and dropping laser beams on anything that looks too threatening. The remaining four ships are the interstellar ferry system.

All of these ships have had extensive repair work done on them in the past and most of them are in fact best described as the remains of several ships stuck together and haphazardly ressurected. About all that can be said is that they work. Not as good as they should do and maybe they go into battle looking like most ships look coming out of battle but they do work. More or less.

If they were to get into a fight with the eldar it would be bad. Even if they won the fleet would be fucked and getting a new ship in the next few centuries is unlikely. So everyone acts nice and polite.

>>34212255
But should they happen to find Eldar actively antagonizing Imperials, they'd still grit their teeth and go to war, yes?

>>34212677
They're Astartes.

>>34212677
I think it would depend on the stakes, which eldar it was and if the Imperials had started it.

>>34212858
...u wot, heretic?

>>34212858
>>34212941
I'd rule that it would have to be incredibly, incredibly extreme.

Like... the marines malevolent who tried to take supplies from the Conservator armory and threatened to shoot some guards, or even more overzealous than normal battle sisters who were on the verge of or actually did purge some villages.

Other than that, no.

>>34212858
>and if the Imperials had started it.
At which point they'd mediate instead of not fighting for Mankind, and ultimately side with the race and Imperium to whom they are sworn to defend, yes...?

>>34213030
And even then, they'd just be all "whoops! Forgot the feed the cat. I'm sure you guys have this under control." and leave. Rather than actually fight against the Imperium with xenos.
Maybe passively evacuate civilians.

As I said, they're Astartes. That kind of question is like asking if a slice of cheese will perform open heart surgery. The question is just.. No.

>>34213211
Exactly. It is after all within the prevue of a chapter to chose who they will and will not help, and indeed are not officially obligated to actually help anybody, they do so out of a sense of duty and personal tradition.

So legally there is nothing 'wrong' with the Conservators simply not helping, instead evacuating civilians and of course looting the field of battle when the shooting stops.

>>34213316
A military force that doesn't take military action against the enemy military force during an altercation? This is starting to appear less like grey spot heresy and more implausible.

OK, it would be like this.

The Eldar that are their neighbours are not antagonizing them due to the things with Chiron and so on. There may be some Eldar raiders that simply feel like being a douche is fun. Maybe DEldar on some occasions. The latter two would be considered target practice by the Conservators.

In case of Imperials, the more jerkass elements of various factions would simply have their asses handled by them if they did try to do anything on Conservator turf or in Conservator space. Since the March is their series of homeworlds, then they would go and kick the asses of those who'd mess with the people under their protection.

And just like >>34213316, they'd go and help or aid out of duty and obligation instead of this and that, but they wouldn't have to and instead go Salamanders on civilians or salvage stuff.

>>34213421
True.. True.. Definitely not putting their all in though, and not breaking out what -for them- are the big guns. Basically doing the absolute minimum under this situation and claiming its their undersupplied situation why.
But you'd really have to have pissed them off, and be fighting an elder craft that had assisted them in the past for them to even consider this.
Otherwise they act like the Space Marines they are fighting against xenos, because that is what is happening! And it is glorious!

>>34213421
Chapters choose where they war.

They could tell the Imperium that they are going to have to sit this one out due to ammunition shortage or something.

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>implying eldar would feast with filthy mon'keigh

I seriously hope you guys don't fluff this.

>>34214643
It was more of a polite meal

>>34214643
They always refuse. Its accepted. They know it means were appreciative, and we know they know that, and we're being noble as fuck. Plus they get to feel all superior.

Except one time, orbiting Chiron IV on a neutral ship. It was awkward.

bump

save from death

I'll just be adding some new stuff to the page, exploring the chapter motto and the mentality behind it, and adding in the Eldar connection.

While all of this is quite fun, the eldar are going to remain aloof at the 'present time' that the page represents. In future they could grow more open, but right 'now' they're all still very tense and nervous.

>>34205217
>Bards in 40k


YOU'LL UNLEASH GREAT HORRORS

Also, has anybody archived this thread? I'm on a phone so I can't.

>>34220867
It's early in yet, we'll get it later.

You know what I would like to see?

Something like that long story written about the reasonable marines, an Inquisitor, fairly levelheaded but suspicious, visiting the chapter and touring the March to investigate their situation and check in after so little word had been heard from the area.

>>34221177
Gah... that has a tendency to rapidly breed sue'nes. I liked investigation of the reasonable marines... but it kept showing off gray areas.

I would really like to see a fellow space marine show up and get very confused, then start to understand near the end.

>>34221003
Just be sure to catch it before it goes dead or somerhing.

>>34221450
Something like that, an outsider who's taking a long detailed look at them. Perhaps a sergeant or captain from a more affluent chapter instead of an inquisitor? I'd write it but I'm doing the story of Marcus right now and honestly... I would like to see other people write! I enjoy writing but I also like seeing people take ideas of mine and make stories that fit with them.

>>34221464
I'll keep my eyes on it.

>>34197945
They stood back, holding up their gauntleted hands to shield their eyes from the wash of wind and debris from the engines as the sturdy little craft touched down on the landing pad before them. The cargo hatch lowered with a whine and a moment later a pilot wearing the uniform of a chapter serf waved to them with a smile. "Right aboard sirs, we'll have you up to the ship in no time."

Marcus nodded, the man seemed confidant and cheerful enough, and he supposed that he would eventually fly in craft like this so many times it would become routine, even boring. He walked aboard, sitting down in some marine sized seats, expecting to lift off at once. It turned out the craft was depositing some cargo and loading up more as well. "Pilot, what is in these crates?" He asked.

The man looked at them. "Gear from a scav run on Chiron, some mechanical components, spare vehicle parts and... bolters and ammo." He said as the crates were swiftly unloaded by practiced ground crews, loading them onto a wooden horse drawn cart, loading large sacs of grain, packing the small vehicle's cargo bay. Eventually the tasks were all done and the three marines strapped in as the engines whined into life and they lifted off. They each stared out of the windows in amazement as the world below them shrunk and fell away.

They ascended higher and higher, punching through the clouds, the three brothers gazing with wonder at the clouds seen form the other side. Slowly the atmosphere fell away and they were in the void, something he'd known about but never really grasped properly. "Magnificent..." He said, looking down at the great blue-green orb of his homeworld.

>>34222604
One of his brothers, Blaine, nodded as well. "Never would have dreamed I'd see it like this. So... fragile looking." He said, gazing at their homeworld as they sped away from it. Some while later the third brother, Arden, pointed. "Look brothers, the ship!" They each craned their necks to try to see it through the small viewport, their enhanced eyes straining for a moment before they saw it.

The ship seemed tiny, floating in the infinite void, but as they grew closer its true size became apparent as the huge vessel dwarfed their own. They flew into one of the landing bays, donning their helmets as the craft touched down. One by one they exited through the airlock, stepping into the airless bay as several other craft started touching down.

Marcus turned and looked out of the yawning bay, his mouth dropping slightly. There before him was the world he had called home, he looked in amazement as he recognized the landmass where he lived. He held up a hand, covering it entirely. He looked at his HUD, making sure the vox was turned off, before he spoke. "Rest easy my love, I will see you again soon." With that he turned and followed his brothers to the airlock to enter the ship proper.

>>34221506
Sounds like a neat idea, I'll take a shot at it. Though I can't speak as to how long it might take or the quality. I haven't been on the top of my game lately. Any particular Chapter you'd like the visiting marine to be from?

>>34203669
>Segmentum Tempestus
>Veiled Region
Within its expanse is known to reside a number of greenskin pirates, a race of sluggish primtive creatures on a dying world and a few xenos mercenaries as well as traders. Unknown to many, Necrons are known to populate this region of space.

Love the wording of that. No exploration goes into the Veil, by imperial decree, and only the occasional trader comes out. Possible human colonies scattered, but no conclusive evidence of them. Closest it saw to action was the renegade Soul Drinkers chapter escaping to, and being apprehended/destroyed in.
So, overall a relatively safe place to border.

>>34222867
Awesome!

Hmm... I'm not sure. I would say not the Salamanders, it should be someone from a different enough mindset to make a bit of culture clash and have it be interesting.

Ultramarines could be fun, if a bit common, Space Wolves could also work but again they might have too much in common. Fists, Raven Guard, any might work really.

The Ultras or Blood Angels would probably be a good bet, although the Conservators are distantly descended from the Imperial Fists, so a detachment of them hearing about it could work...


How about an Imperial Fist detachment hears about a long lost successor chapter in the area, but not knowing anything more expects to find a normal chapter, not this... strange and understrength one, so mild to moderate culture shock and surprise ensues.

>>34222948
Cool, I'll need to read up a little on the Fists so I get them right. I'll get started on it and see what I can come up with.

>>34223108
Great! Thanks a lot I look forward to it. If you feel more comfortable with a different chapter it's no big deal, the Fists were just an idea. Ultras work just as well because they rule their own multi system fiefdom but in a very different way

>>34223129
It's not that I'm not comfortable with the Fists, just not that familiar compared to some others. It will be a good thing writing wise for me to try something different.

>>34223171
Sounds good. I'll try to continue writing as well, I really appreciate you taking the time to help flesh this out. I very much look forward to what you come up with.

>>34222754
A man in a ship's uniform was waiting for them. On his right shoulder was the emblem of House Mackyntire. "Greetings, honored Astartes, and welcome aboard the merchantman 'Deferred Payment'. If you will kindly follow me I will show you to your quarters." He said, leading them down a long hall, numerous crewmen standing by to unload the cargo when the various other cargo shuttles finished bringing grain up from the planet below. "We will arrive over Dekara in roughly two weeks if the warp currents hold to their current patterns, so you shouldn't get bored."

Marcus looked about as they were led through the corridors. "Does this vessel go beyond the March very often?" He asked, having grown up on the tales of adventure the marines aboard the rogue trader ships saw.

But the man shook his head. "We do, but it's nothing exciting, simply trading massed foodstuffs on regular runs. It's not exciting work but it's a stable income and the trade lanes are pretty safe so there are certainly things to be said about that."

The marine nodded, wondering how this ship compared to other vessels in the trade fleet. The merchantman was the most impressive sight he had ever seen in his life, but he realized now that Mackyntire must have far grander and more powerful ships on call if this was a peaceful bulk transport. They were led on through the passages, being pointed to the galley, a recreation area and finally to their quarters, which seemed to be a small cargo bay refitted for their needs with appropriately large and sturdy furniture.

>>34207912

I'm just imagining all these Eldar standing around a tavern looking nervous wearing beenies and plaid shirts and talking in comically deep voices about about how interesting corn is.

Silver Stars, Sons of Gorgax, and Crimson Axes all were declared lost with ambiguous status, first two due to lack of geneseed. Crimson Axes are the only ones confirmed of Imperial Fist heritage, if any. If genealogy comes up at all, it's a start.

>>34223828
Hmm, sounds good. They were a somewhat distant successor to the big names and were made from the cast offs of other lesser chapters.

>>34223823
Indeed that would be pretty funny. Generally they're all pretty cool with people who come to visit, they don't trust xenos of course but at the same time don't mind them too much so long as they don't cause problems.

It's kinda sad for them that the local Eldar are more helpful than some Imperial groups.

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Now I do wonder how the Conservators would react to the Knights Repentant.

Mind you, the latter are Great Crusade era Word Bearers that accidentally time-travelled to the 41st millenium. They are really nice guys, though they get loads of shit thrown at them due to being Word Bearers.

>>34226362
Nah, they'd like them.

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So been thinking more about the psykers in system... what if there is a under librarian assigned to each planet besides Dakar. They run around and a)make sure the people are free of taint and b) catch developing psykers, drug them, and ship them back to the university.

Actually, perhaps that job is given to a psyker from the university sent to each village. The librarian is more the middle management who provides a second opinion when needed, and manages interplanetary shipping of psykers.

>>34228765
That would be fine.

>>34226362
They would likely be greeted with open arms.

The Conservators are pretty welcoming, kind folk, they'd most likely not care about their origins and only see them as the brave loyalists they really are, and welcome them to their home.

>>34229569
Why ARE they welcoming? It'd be pretty understandable if they were wary as fuck about outsiders and were careful around other Imperial factions, not wanting to piss them off.
I dunno, they just seem a bit TOO sensible and nice recently. A healthy dose of paranoia and xenophobia helps that.

The veridian arrows, 7th company. Led by Sergeant Leapold Locksly, this company is viewed as a bit odd. Serving as a secondary scout company, they favor stealth and ambush tavrics. Wearing camo cloaks ober their power armor and carrying the battle brother standard heavy bows, these brothers are known for ending battles before they start.

It takes a really silly amount of skill to sneak around in full power armor, but some how Locksly's merry men have pulled it off time and again.

>>34229589
They have nothing to hide, except maybe the geneseeds.
Any open interaction could lead to a fruit basket of anmo. Plus, how often do you think they see other chapters? Each interaction is a chance to see the greater imperium. Also, you don't turn away guests.

>>34229589
They are reserved. They will let other Imperial factions enter.

In case of xenos this varies dramatically. They may be suspicious towards Eldar, but they will somewhat welcome them (depends on Craftworld). Orks and Chaos however...not to mention other aggressive xenos.

Also this >>34229676

>>34229589
Well they are, nearly to a man now, country bumpkins that learned the universe is impossibly big. The scale of the conflicts that are happening all around them is mind numbing... so when a guy is willing to shake your hand rather then shank you, it is rather nice.

And hey, as long as your here want to go on a scav run? They are really fun and don't have a high mortality rate at all.

>>34229589
Basically they try to be good hosts, and don't have the luxury of turning away potential allies based on silly things like 'the rest of the Imperium hating them'. They know what it's like to be disliked simply because of what they are, and in the Knights Repentant they would see a brother chapter, a force that does its best to fight for the people of the Imperium, not just its rulers, but gets nothing but mockery and hatred in return because of events beyond their control.

>>34228765
Given that all the Librarians took up teaching and they never recruited another psyker into the chapter after that they might not have any Librarians by the 'present'.

By now they might just have human psykers training human psykers.

Given that there are a few thousand psykers per planet they may have a psychic educational facility on each continent of each planet. Maybe each one is responsible for finding, recruiting, and training. They would also be responsible for hunting down and killing renegade psykers in their jurisdiction.

The chapter borrows combat trained psychics as it needs to. The PDFs also do so to a lesser degree.

Maybe they allow their members, once education is complete, to go out and live regular lives for the most part. Maybe every noble court has its own psyker as an adviser.

>>34230122
Well, the psykers that are gene seed compatible would probably end up as librarians, but the thing is that most of them aren't compatible just by random genetics, so they are trained as human psykers.

So they would maintain their cadre of librarians, in the hopes that one day they are no longer needed as teachers and can return to the battlefield, though they do leave on deployment for very serious conflicts, like assaulting a major ork stronghold, or repaying a gene debt.

>>34230122
They have a massive pool of potential psyker recruits, they have probably if anything an over abundance of librarians.

>>34230238
Most of them are only at the very edge of what could be called a Psyker however. Absolute shit tiers who'd get a slight headache if Khorne was right behind them and shouting.
Its a sparcely populated agri world, so their numbers should probably go down a fair bit to begin with, and then psykers of any power fewer, and those capable of being Librarians even less.

>>34230359
> slight headache if Khorne was right behind them and shouting

Nope. That would be exploding heads.

>>34230381
Hyperbole motherfucker.

>>34230359
But they have been breeding is the thing. A couple hundred years is what... 10 generations? Of psyker breeding with psyker. Enough population variance to prevent inbreeding, and the weak are culled by the librarians.

Population should be booming, along with the very small number that become linrarians. Still if they have 30 that is a massive abundance by normal chapter standards.

>>34230438
But this is a chapter playing the long game if any chaptervis. They could be intentionally going without Librarians to allow more psychics with gene-seed compatibility to breed.

On the day they reclaim the Forgeworld and set up their fiefdom to rival Ultramar they will have the capability to recruit maybe a hundred battle trained psykers into the ranks of the chapter without depleting the stock.

An entire companies worth or Librarians. And it's sustainable.

But this is centuries in the future before they can even think of even starting this project.

It's in the one day pile. This is a chapter that looks to the future with hope.

The Imperium looks down at them now with nothing but pity and contempt but when their master plan comes together they will go, in a couple of decades at most, from the least of chapters all the way up to revealing the First Founders.

One day.

>>34230438
encouraging psyker growth what are you a heretic

>>34230803
Look at the bright side. The =][= needs psyker savants. Probably Biomancers. IG would probably want to have Pyrokinetics to blast the enemy...not to mention that everyone wants Diviners.

>>34230788
But space marines can breed just fine... they just normally don't try to. Especially if they hang out playing school master that can torch your soul.

They have only picked up a dozen or so since the first ork war, but they have allowed for a real support structure to be set up.

>>34230803
Are you going to give us the las cannons to replace them?

>>34231276
Lascannons with wizard hats...

>>34232340
The beat kind... so sad I don't have a pic of that.

>>34229645
Also, what do people think of this idea?

>>34212255
For names of the ships the chapter owns I suggest:

These are the six usually stationed around Chiron IV and patrolling the surrounding system. Sometimes leave to pursue other threats if need is great enough.

Dorn's Fire - Battle Barge. No warp engines
Death's Wings - Gladius/Nova Frigate
Tear of Chiron - Nova Frigate
Bad Omen - Sword Class Frigate
Broken Promise - Cobra Destroyer. No warp engines.
Hammer of Dekara - Hunter Destroyer

These are the four they use as mobile apothecariums, the interstellar ferry service and the nearest thing they have to a patrol fleet.

The Unforseen Consequence - Strike Cruiser
Shrapnel - Strike Cruiser
Retribution - Firestorm Class Frigate
Clockwork Star - Sword Class Frigate

Unless someone has names that sound better.

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>>34233083
> Bad Omen

Lamenters here. Even we don't try to name our ships like that.

>>34233083
>Dorn's Fire
Bit generic and doesn't really say anything about the chapter. Dorn's heart maybe?
>Broken Promise
Make it the Unbroken Promise and It'll be squared away.
>The Unforseen Consequence
>Shrapnel
These names seem to imply something which makes them less generic as names. But the don't really feel like things I would associate with the Conservators.

>>34233055
Makes helps sense they'd have bow specialists considering how heavily they rely on them as scouts. Somthing similar was suggested earlier too. Now they just need a story.

>>34233221
Their ships were just what was lying around when the Chapter was formed. In a way, the lack of meaning IS meaningful.

I would perhaps suggest the Payment in Kind though. "You want peace? Too bad! Here, have bomb!"

>>34233055
A little blatant with the symbolism... but I like it.

Still carry their bolters into battle but they prefer to start off with their bows and only break out the guns if the battle goes loud.

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>>34233055
Reconnaissance Squad here. Nothing bad about it.

>>34233198
>Bad Omen
The ship that was eventually called the Bad Omen was one of the ones made from so many parts of other ships that its hard to say which one the majority of it was to start with and so hard to say which name of its predecessors it should inherit. For a long time it was called Name Pending. Then they listened in on the radio transmissions of the surface orks. Every time the orks tried to build some sort of space craft this Zogging Git of a ship would appear in the night sky and something heavy and explosive would land on their vehicle like a bad omen of a star.

>>34233221
>Dorn's Heart.
Sounds better.

>Broken Promise
Reconstruction was completed the day the Mechanicus officially gave them the middle finger. Is it named for the Conservators' inability to protect a forgeworld they had sworn to protect or is it named after the breaking of the ancient covenant between astartes and mechanicus? Both?

>The Unforseen Consequence
An in joke in the chapter. Their glorious Empire will be one to the mechanicus and the Orks.

>Shrapnel
"You're asking me to make you a war ship out of shrapnel. Shrapnel!" - Attributed to the magos in charge of overseeing the construction of a ship out of the remnants of lots of wreckage and spare parts.

>>34233649
Is Shrapnel basically a mini space hulk they wired up and loaded with ammunition then?
I like it... I like it..

Payment Rendered
The Price of Peace
Imperial Citizen
Marquis of Asharn
Dream of Tomorrow

>>34233825
Shrapnel was what they made with the remains of three Strike Cruiser, salvaged parts from a dozen other ships (some of them orkish) and a lot of duct tape and prayers. It was the ship they made after they made all the others and realized they might just be able to make one more out of the shit floating around before orbits decayed and all the useful bits fell into the planet.

It sort of works. Much of the ship is uninhabitable and some of the weapons are a bit iffy but its better than nothing.

>>34234022
>some of them orkish
I draw a line there. Recovering machinery the Orks have used, alright. But ork-made anything is just no.

>>34234099
>Were'ed this deck plate come from? Seems a bit rough.

I don't rightly know sir, you want to find another?

>No we're leaving system as soon as this damn thing is made. Pass me the welding torch.

>>34234099
A lot of it was hard to identify. Shit was fucked up.

what relationship does the conservators have with the Imperial guard (both local, PDF, and the foriegn regiments) and the Adeptus Arbite?

We should add more specific 1d4chan pages for all the smaller bits of fluff. Like the charicters, the martches themselves, Dekara university... ect. Will try to set some up myself when I am not on my phone.

>>34234673
Local PDF are almost chapter serfs of the Conservators. IG like them because they are actually willing to do joint operations on request. Arbiyes probably don't think about them much.

>>34234673
Perfectly civil with the IG and PDFs on the whole. They may be perhaps the least of the Astartes but they are fucking Space Marines, those who carry the Emperor's fury. And most never meet a single one, so meeting some brown ones that have a company that really likes bows and goes out of their way to save your butts are good in their books.
Local IG and the Conservators are called to take care of problems as they arise in the locale, as the hammer and spear of the Imperium, as it should be.

Y'know, fairly standard. I guess some might wish they got to meet the Iron Hands, or the Ultramarines, or maybe the Salamanders. They're more well known and more impressive, but they're still a Space Marine.
Like going to a zoo and the lion is asleep by the glass. Okay, maybe it would have been cooler if it did a Pride Rock roar on it's boulder, but its still a goddamn lion and this one is super close up which is nice.

>>34234831
>>34234673
Basically like he says.

The PDF are usually dressed in chainmail and plate and use every model of lasgun the chapter can get their hands on.

IG regiments would likely be pretty friendly, though it's unlikely they would know one for long as they tend to move around following the latest crisis. They tend to give gifts to those who fight alongside them, and are fairly cordial allies, even if you are wondering where your spare bolter ammo and expended charge packs ended up.

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>>34234673
They have no locally grown Imperial Guard Regiments. Astartes worlds are tithe exempt.

Their PDF are the armies raised by the nations of their worlds and coordinated by the Conservators into a unified whole. They see the Conservators as the greatest warriors that have ever lived but no longer as angels. Its hard to deify people you grew up with and who used to give you piggyback rides when you were small.

Foreign PDFs and Guard Regiments would see them with the same awe citizens who don't know better view space marines with. This wears off a little as the campaign wears on.

Imperial Guard Generals find them easier to deal with than more hardline space marines. They don't demand bowing and scraping like the Black Templars do and seem to give a shit about their comrades in arms which comes as a big shock if their only contact with the Astartes beforehand was the likes of the Iron Hands.

Although the Adeptus Arbiters has no official authority over the Adeptus Astartes or the citizens of its homeworlds I would like to think that the Conservators invited a few of them in to act as sheriffs. Pic somewhat related.

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>>34197710
Having read the previous thread again I'm imagining Chapter Master Ignatius McFaber going into battle in fucked up mechanical monstrosity.

It looks like a Penitent Engine, and indeed it probably started out as one they salvaged, but then someone got bored and tried to turn it into a suit of Centurion Armour. They then seemed to forget that they weren't making a dreadnaught and stuck a las-cannon on its left arm and a powerfist on the right. The whole thing is powered by four suit reactors strung and wired together. Its big and strong and deceptively fast. It also leaks radiation a little so its probably best not to stand too close for too long. Its of non-standard design but constructed from standard parts so its probably not tech-blasphemy.

No other marine in the chapter can wear it as it plugs into the interface sockets of his missing limbs and is wired directly into his eyes and ears. It also contains the mix of painkillers and stimulants the Chapter Master needs to take in barely sub-lethal doses in order to go into battle once again.

They are the moments Master Ignatius McFaber lives for. To stride across the battlefield once more, first into battle, dealing out punishment and striking fear into the hearts of His foes.

It brings the chapter great joy to see their Chapter Master on the battlefield. It is inspirational to see such a huge body count delivered with such enthusiasm.

It is not good for the Chapter Masters health. After each battle, when the drugs wear off, he crashes something awful. Given that he is not in the best of shape at the best of times he usually falls into a coma to recuperate. It takes him weeks to wake up and months to stand up again. But its worth it, he feels, even if it probably will kill him eventually.

I imagine it looking something like this but less retarded in that it has some metal in between the pilot and the bullets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3Z-MVoUg4

>>34236578
Hmm... except he is recovering, otherwise he would be replaced. I like the semi dread cobled together armor, but see it as an emergency measure.

>>34236578
>>34236741
Yeah, he is getting better, slowly. I think it would probably be a little less armor and a little more walking vehicle. He does wear it in some ways but rather than being a full suit, it's more something that he pilots rather than 'wears' like armor, still on dreadnought scale but more like a sentinel control system that he's been somewhat wired into.

I think it's pretty awesome what you've written up, I quite like it.

Also, where did the anon who was going to write the story with the Fist visitors go?

>>34236741
He might be recovering but he may never recover completely. He may be able to walk again unaided but even if they manage to find some good cybernetics for him Its entirely possible he won't be able to put on power armour again like he used to.

Not that this is ever going to stop him being Chapter Master. The people of the March like him, hes been around for so long that no can imagine anyone else guiding them, he is a very good organizer and planner and has made it abundantly clear that the only way he is leaving the job is in a box. Most if not all the brothers also support him because hes their Chapter Master and thats all there is to it.

In the meantime he has the Death Walker suit (unless someone thinks up a better name) so its not all bad.

>>34236947
I like it a lot. Maybe remove the 'out of action for months afterward' thing. There's very little that can sideline a marine for months on end, let alone painkillers whipped up by the village apothecary out of crushed herbs.

>>34237137
The cheapest and lowest tech pain killer is marijuana.
Just saying.

>>34237137
They are when one of those herbs is Deadly Nightshade and the marine is half dead already.

Its why the apothecarium doesn't let him go on every scav mission to Chiron.

>>34237268
I'm pretty sure they have advanced enough chemistry on their ships to whip up some opiates.

>>34236807
I'm here, at work currently so it will be a while before I can really knuckle down and write it out. It will get done though, internet connection willing.

>>34237296
I can see how it would be something that would relegate him to short deployments only, but messing him up for weeks to months afterwards seems a bit of a stretch. So in general he only takes the field in major actions within the March, and never goes on scav runs where he might get separated from the group.

>>34237321
They've had that on the surface of some of the planets since before the chapter turned up. The chapter just taught them how to make it better and then put laws into effect to regulate its usage.

>>34235007
I'm trying to work out if its a reward or punishment for an arbiter to be sent to the March

>>34237774
Maybe it's like Hot Fuzz. Starts as a punishment, but some grow to like it and want to stay.

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>>34236578
I'm imagining him as a gothic M.E.C. Trooper.

>>34237946
A Citizen was seen stealing onions? Let's fucking do this.

Wait. A thought. Fuel.. Is to be conserved. So, they're likely to use fuel efficient transport. And what's better than a bicycle?

Now imagine an unarmored Astartes on a giant bicycle.

>>34238075
Or... you know, just horses.

Which everyone on these planets already use.

>>34238110
Horses need feeding and stables. And they can't keep up with an Astartes for long. Not as useful for light single person transport now and then.
Giant Marine sized bicycles with bells that play hymns man. That's the way to go.

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>>34238110
Astartes tend to be really heavy. Also an astartes can cover a fair amount of ground and doesn't need to sleep for weeks.

Also they have those monster-rhinos.

>>34238262
About these.

I'm saying they're actually herbivores, who use their tusks and horns to dig for tubers and roots, or scrape edible bark off trees. Actually very docile unless you do one of a few things that can enrage them, like messing with their children or family members.

They've been long domesticated and are found on most planets in the March, having been distributed to all the others by the Conservators, and are used to pull large farming contraptions using the turning wheels to drive various devices, cutting and storing wheat for instance.

>>34238574
I like this. Friendly beast of burden. Makes great pet.

Space Wolves visit. Brag about wolves. Rhinos pick him up by hair. Mistook his hair for grass.

Brother Todburt tells Mr Clumpy to put the Space Wolf down. Mr Clumpy does and gets an apple like a good rhinos. Space Wolf shuts the fuck up about wolves.

>>34238691
It also makes sense because hey, they were made to be beasts of burden. The Conservators like always go "Hey.. I could use this to kill someone with" and uses it in battle because fuck yea resource management!

>>34238691
Let's not get out of hand with hating on the Space Wolves now. If the Wolves were to show up in the March they'd probably get along pretty well with the locals, despite being a little more raucous and loud they also enjoy a good drink with friends and listening to well told heroic tales while eating roast boar in the feasting hall.

>>34238971
I just like the idea of their wolves pissing themselves in fear when that small hill gets up and sniffs them to see if they're plant matter.
...so..how do Salamanders feel about large warbeasts again?

>>34239011
The Salamanders are pragmatic so I can see them being cool with them.

I wonder... Do the Rhinos like eating Ork?

>>34239148
Man... Salamanders might be the only ones willing to sit through 100+ hour telling of all a Conservator's gears history. Including no less then 20 balads, and a short bot of interpretive dance.

>>34239346
They're herbivores.

So... wait... orks are half fungus...

Hmm... I'd say not as they're primarily meat.

No problem crushing them to red paste though if they're angered.

>>34203669
>that tau empire
It's so cute, tiny, and adorable.

>>34239474
I know. Couldn't believe it the first time I saw it.

I mean... the empire of a powerful enemy seems like it should be... large.

The Imperium claims basically the entire galaxy as its territory and has the manpower to hold the front pretty much everywhere.

It always seemed like the Tau shouldn't be that big of a problem, more of a galactic speedbump compared to some of the other threats out there.

>>34239758
Thought they were just a speed bump, the only reason they weren't stomped out was Abbadon pulling his crusade shit again.

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What are the chances a troop of Jokaero take up residence in the system? Relatively safe, plenty of food, and hey a planet of junk.
Would produce the odd weapon every now and then, ride the rhinos, drink beer.
FIX THINGS?

>>34245436
Highly welcome.

Staggeringly implausible.

>>34246595
Not that implausible.

Jokaero go where they will and can build their own wierd ships.

>>34247034
Atop of the fact that the Conservators are in the ass-end of nowhere, aren't the Jokaero nomadic?

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Here's the first part of the story of the Imperial Fists visit.

Captain Argus of the Imperial Fists 6th Company stares out into the void from the bridge of his battle barge, Fist of Fury. It was his mission to see if there was any validity to the rumors of a supposed successor out in the Asharn March, a backwater area of space if there ever was one. The Captain wondered if this trip was truly warranted, chapters of unknown lineage not being a strange occurrence. Blaring sirens snapped the Captain out of it; he made a note to spend time in the Pain Glove for letting his mind wander. His helmet’s vox unit came alive with a static, machine like voice.
“Entering realspace in 5…4…3…2…1.”
The Fist of Fury emerged near Chiron IV, the former Forge World. Turning away from the image of the desolated planet, Captain Argus made his way to the hanger. Upon arriving he found the Battle Brothers selected to accompany him standing ready to depart. Despite being a reserve company, his Marines possessed all of the discipline of any other company.
“We are here to determine if there are fellow sons of Dorn present in this sector. If found, you are to determine the worth of their Battle Brothers; I shall judge the strength of their leadership. Now prepare to launch!”
The marines board the Thunderhawk and prepare to depart. The engines of the mighty machine roar as it lifts off. As it blasts out into space, Captain Argus brings up the solar chart for the system. A small green world nearby Chiron IV was the rumored location of the lost chapter. He selects the world and forwards the data to the pilot. It was time to see if there was any validity to the rumors.

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>>34248089
2/2

Captain Marshal of the Conservators was out for a stroll with his wife, Elaine, after his latest scav run. It had been rough; one of his boys had taken the blast from an Ork’s grenade. While he had showed immense bravery in shielding his brothers, it had cost him his leg and there were no cybernetics to replace the lost limb. The entire ordeal had weighed heavily on Marshal; it was his responsibility to see his men returned home safely and he had failed to do so. As he and Elaine walked, they found themselves at the lakeside. Its calm waters had always managed to sooth his nerves, and he sat by the banks to enjoy the time with his wife.
Unfortunately that time would be cut short. A massive ship blasted through the clouds, and screamed over the heads of the couple. Marshal caught sight of a flash of yellow and a mailed fist. He rose in a flash startling Elaine, even more so than the unexpected arrival of a large aircraft had.
“Please excuse me, darling. I must see what this is about. Return home quickly and let the others know of this. Tell them the chapter of our origin has arrived.”
With a quick parting kiss, Marshal runs as fast as he is able towards the landing site of the mighty vessel while Elaine hurries back to deliver the news. The Imperial Fists had come.

>>34247922
Yes. And their movements are as unpredictable as everything else about them. It's not like they follow trade or conventional wealth.

About the only thing that influences them is that they like fruit and nuts which, because agriworlds the March has an abundance of.

>>34248089
>>34248103

Sorry for the piss poor length of the first half, I'll try to have a more substantial part 2. Also sorry about the time it's taking to get this done, I don't have an internet connection of my own so I have to shanghai one when I can or drive somewhere with free wifi.

BTW, do the Conservators have Paingloves like the rest of Dorn's sons?

>>34249416
Seems not.

>>34250443
I won't be surprised if the Fists from >>34248089, >>34248103 will gift them a couple.

>>34249416
They're Chimaeric, not from any one Primarch.

The Conservators are what you get when a High Lord notices that they could have another cake in their budget if they rounded up all this spare wargear they've got lying around various planets and superfluous space marines, put them all in a barely working battle barge and throw them at the edge of Imperial space to guard the wheat for more cakes.
It's the same bizarre vague helpfulness by mayoral offices that results in civic planning, "revitalisation" of urban areas and the like. By which they mean in reality knocking down some abandoned buildings and meaning to rebuild them and one shitty "park" that's some low quality turf with no planned maintenance that ends up being colonised by homeless people. Sounds good, but rarely amounts to much and is done to make themselves feel better. The fact the Conservators are doing a good job it's a bonus.

>>34250587
I do however wonder how Chimeric they are. If they are Dorn's, then at least most of their geneseed's elements are IF one.

>>34250636
Oh yeah, they'll have plenty of Dorn in there, their Battle Barge is an old IF one if the name is anything to go by.
But at the same time, one or two in the background will be noticeably different pigmentation, one might be unable to use a Batcher's Gland and so on. It's doubtful they have many, if any, severely different geneseeds within their ranks. Black dragon bone growths for instance are unlikely to be in the chapter, but a couple marines might indulge in scrimshaw off duty as a calming exercise.

At a guess, they're largely IF, Ultra and Salamander derivatives in defending order with a few Wolfs and a spinkling of misc. Reclaimed.

>>34250799
>defending order
Descending order. Autocorrect, c'mon. Step it up.

Bump.

>>34250799
I'm thinking they would be still 70% Imperial Fists with 15% Ultramarine simply because it's so common. The remaining 15% made up of Salamanders, Dark Angels, White Scars and Iron Hands.

Blood Angels, Raven Guard and Space Wolves bloodlines would not be used due to the problems associated with those bloodlines.

They would still be harvested and stored in the gene-banks but Olney to ever be used if there is no other choice.

>>34248128
I enjoyed it anon, looking forward to more.

>>34252046
Im thinking you guys have misunderstood what being chimeric actually means. Being "chimeric" implies that somehow you have blended the gene-seeds together, something only even implied to be done with the Minotaurs, and perhaps at the Cursed Founding, and we all know how well THAT went.

It's the purview of Genetors, pretty much exclusively, and would only be seen as tainting holy gene-seed.

If I recall from your earlier threads though, you guys had it right, where the chapter recovered progenoids from another chapter, and used them. That means your chapter's marines are all gene-pure, but some of them are essentially UMs or IHs or RGs in a different uniform. Most will be the chapter's progenitor, of course, and only those marines can have their tithe sent back to Terra, lest the Mechanicus catch on.

>>34252519
What term would be used for a gathering of individually pure but different progenitors?
Also, I thought the Mechanicus was well aware of the... Chameleonic? nature of the Conservators, but so long they don't send back any seeds that they shouldn't have had when they began, they're good.

>>34252755
I'd imagine they wouldn't use ANY particular term, to avoid drawing more attention to it than necessary.

And other chapters, or the mechanicus being aware of their scavenging gene-seed is TOP SECRET. Even if it's a rational decision, the consequences of being caught at it would be DIRE.

>>34252755
The Mechanicus barely knows that this chapter even exists, and what little it does remember, it doesn't like. That's why the Conservators are so poorly equipped, they're not on good terms, and really far away.

>>34252770
Scavenging is top secret outside the Chapter, but them starting off as what was left lying around the Segmentum Solar isn't. Or at least to those who organised it.
Thus they're an... artificial Chapter. So what I meant by sending seeds back they shouldn't have would be ones that weren't in the original assembled missmatched Chapter.

>>34252755
I think it's one of those things where the Conservators would simply refer to themselves as Conservators, and not worry about it. There's no need to draw lines between their members, since it won't help their operations at all, and could cause schisms in the chapter if things got out of hand.

>>34252826
and given the records of which chapters went into organizing them were lost in the fire when the fire ants made a break through in sector 77... the mechanicum just assumes all the seed is the from one of the founding chapters.

>>34252858
Also, aside from the Apothecaries, the Conservator Marines probably wouldn't even know where their gene-seed came from, aside from some vague inklings if a given zygote wasn't working.

>>34252864
"No, I don't have a Salamander geneseed, I'm just black guys."

>>34252881
That's why I said "probably" :P

(and a Salamander who was born away from the radiation of Nocturne might not be coal-black, actually)

>>34252917
True, but an Imperial citizen or unaware Marine might not know that. All they know is the fire dude Marines in green have black skin. And there's a black skinned Conservator there, and Conservators were made of a mishmash of geneseeds. And would then ask.
And he gets asked a LOT.

He wears his mask when off world a lot now.

>>34252963
Well, would a Conservator be wearing green? Would he necessarily be black skinned?
Would he be wearing artificer armor and using a flame weapon?
Would the people living in these far flung fringe worlds really know all that much about the Salamanders, a relatively poorly known First Founding chapter?

Like I say, I'm arguing for the benefit of the doubt here, not 100% certainty, because this is 40k, there is no such thing. And, because I think that the Salamander's homeworld's radiation has a lot to do with them being black colored. Not being there would presumably reduce or eliminate the unusual color.

>>34253022
I'm liking the idea of one of the psykers becoming a Librarian. A weeks days after his transformation is complete his eyes start glowing red.

"Now friends, I know you all know about deamonic possession and things and I know this might look a little suspicious but just trust me, it's not what it looks like".

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>>34253022
Aw, you're no fun any more!

>>34253152
Haha, I'm lots of fun, bro. Im arguing for the amusingness of a Salamander of all people not knowing where his genetic heritage truly lies.

>>34253116
I support someone writefagging this. And then one of the Apothecaries has to come in and give all the Marines "the talk" about how some of them are a little different than others, but everyone's a Conservator at heart. 40k PSA time.

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>>34252881
Sorry, but I couldn't hold back.

Bump

The old PDF was basically the armies of the local rulers who were tasked with exterminating the ork population in their nation should they ever sprout. They were also charged with investigating any and all space/aircraft landings.

The national armies of the March Worlds still make up the majority of the PDFs but increasingly the role is being taken over by orders of trained fighters funded by the chapter from the taxes it takes from the rulers of the kingdoms and equipped with off-world imported las-rifles and basic flack armour. They owe allegiance to no man, save the Chapter Master, and defend the worlds they live on as a whole for the good of the people rather than for the sake of nations. Their numbers are limited by the amount of las-rifles that can be imported.

Although the chapter does not like having their PDF being beholden to a Rogue Trader, no matter the state of his moral fiber or firmness of his loyalty, it has little choice. They could have their PDF be totally free from outside interference and dependency, but then they would have it be only a fraction of its potential and their realm would suffer for this pride.

The national rulers see the introduction and increasing influence of these new orders as somewhat of a mixed blessing. On the one hand they are loosing some power but on the other they are gaining a chapter trained fighting force with laser rifles to defend them. Even taking into account the increase in taxes they are making a saving as each of the new orders is far more effective, numbers for numbers, than their old armies ever were.

The saved resources are then, at the chapters suggestion, used to build sewer systems and make proper roads and such things.

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Pic is how I imagine Kworum city looking.

Dun Kworum is the castle. Conservators had an extension built on to it so they could use it as their central Fortress.

>>34255858
Neat.
>>34256347
Neat.

>>34256347
That's somewhat more grand than I was expecting for some reason. But that's so damned amazing looking its canon as far as I'm concerned.
Digging the Mediterranean look to the buildings too, its too easy to assume a whole planet is pseudo-Medieval Europe.
Do you think they have Voodoo Orks in the tropics?

>>34256347
I approve.

>>34252917
He'd probably be more tan than most, but not full on coal black.

>>34255858
The Conservators are in the process of consolidating the armies into a united PDF, however it's a difficult and slow process. Largely because the nobles are annoyed that they're losing some of their power, but at the same time life has never been better for them.

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>>34257188
There has to be voodoo orks.

There also has to be voodoo-ish humans.

Also by this point the chapter has been in Kworum for about 200 years. They have not been idle.

In the first, maybe second but I think its first, thread it mentioned that they set up their new Fortress in the capital of the most prosperous nation on Dekara so they could keep a close eye on things a little easier.

They basically set up shop in the heart of not!Rome.

They have other fortresses now scattered around and on different worlds. At least one per planet, usually more.

Usually they set them up in the capital cities of the biggest empires and kingdoms they can find. Its partly to keep in touch with as much of the planet as possible but also to keep an eye on the most powerful national leaders to make sure they don't do anything really stupid.

>>34257450
I like this pic, I'll say this is their primary fortress on Dekara, the closest they have to a fortress monastery.

The other is still wonderful and can be another one of their forts on a different planet, this one is bigger and more advanced looking in my eye, so this will be Dun Kworum or whatever we're calling it, their massive citadel set up near the capitol of the planet.

>>34257395
More tan than most implies that there aren't any really dark skinned humans in the sunnier parts of whatever planet he is on.

People might just assume he is from those lands.

The red eyes, possibly glowing, might be harder to explain.

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>>34257520
Going through the last treads it would appear that

Dun Kworum is the fortress.
Kworum is the capital city.
The kingdom is South Thurnston.

Presumably there is a North Thurnston but it might only be a small nation that never really grew like its southern cousin did.

Not that it matters in the long run. In a few hundred years the Conservators will probably have blurred the boundaries between nations to the point where its not all that noticeable which side of the border you stand on.

A task they will have to do slowly and carefully if they want to maintain the willing and happy help of the local leaders.

So.. Dun Kworum is the military base for the Conservators, their main armoury, ship dock and barracks are there for any Marine without a home off base.
And the unnamed Fortress Monastery on Dekara is the Administorial, Diplomatic and scientific base. The Chapter Master lives there, as well as some Librarians, Tech priests and pretty much anyone who needs a full time desk job. Possibly the Chaplain. Marines severely injured to the point where the cybernetics available aren't sufficient or unavailable to replace them -run out of spare limbs perhaps- often stay here and meditate, pray and serve the Chapter in other ways where possible until repair work can be made. Not often, but it does happen.
Visitors go to the Monastery on Dekara, as that's where they have all the cool looking stuff and the Relics and whatnot. Decisions are generally made from there, but in an emergency the entire marine population can most to Dun Kworum and make use of secondary war rooms and communications to plan from there, or indeed aboard the Dorn's Heart.

That make sense to everyone?

>>34258280
I like it. We can all combine this into making it perfectly blend with each other.

>>34258333
>>34258280
Oh, forgot to say. We need a name surely for the home of the Chapter Master and spiritual centre for the Conservators.

>>34258499
The Sancus?

Plus is the thread saved?

>>34258543
I've meant The Sanctus. Forgot the t.

>>34258543
Yup, checked suptg.

Hi Archive browsers!

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>>34258280
>>34258280
Dun Kworum is where the Chapter Master has his office, the astropath has his office and where the decisions get made.

As a rule the rest of the chapter is fairly spread out between other fortresses or just sort of out there minding their own business between wars.

Tech-marines run schools teaching as many people as possible the next step up the tech-tree, they tend to be in the cities to maximize the available number of students.

Librarians are all out running their psyker training facilities, these are all in remote locations because if the unthinkable happens and it all goes very wrong they might be able to minimize the casualties. They are pretty much left to themselves as no one else can understand most of what they are talking about and so can not help them.

Chaplains I can imagine being more or less nomadic. They walk the roads dispensing wisdom to those who will listen. They don't have a hierarchy amongst themselves. All are equal in their faith.

Marines who have become too old and broken down to go to war generally find something else to do. Meditating and living the monastic life is one option, some open a tavern, some make tapestries and wall hangings. It varies. Availability of cybernetics is a big problem. There is a list.

Dorn's Heart is stranded in orbit of Chiron. Orks fucked up its warp-drive beyond any ability to repair. The other ships are mobile apothecariums.

Or thats how I see it anyway.

>>34258805
This.

There seems to be some confusion, Dun Kworum is the fortress monastary, or at least the closest thing there is to it. It's a citadel of sorts, a massive sprawling castle and fortified town build near the capitol of South Thurnston, who's capitol city is Kworum.

It's so named because it was initially a ruling fortress for an older generation monarch long dead and left abandoned, the Conservators have since taken up residence in the abandoned keep and have spent two centuries fixing the place up.

It's now a center for training and education, where the majority of the system's surviving techpriests are and where new ones are trained as best as possible, and it's where most of the recovered industrial machinery found on scav runs are taken to be set up and put to use.

Bump.

Anything distinguishing between the different planets? There must be some variability between them. Heavier ork presence, stuck up nobles, higher crop yields, traces of chaos, volcanism.

>>34261123
Nothing that I've specifically fleshed out.

If someone wants to pitch ideas for individual planets I'd be up for looking them over.

Also sorry for lack of OC, OP has misplaced hiscure disease potions and has been stricken with a nasty cold that is robbing me of my creative spark.

Been working ob the codex. But gonna be a while until I have stable net access on my computer.

>>34263322
Looking forward to it.

>>34223308
Marcus thanked the man and stowed his bag in their quarters. After that the marines helped each other out of their armor and put on some more relaxed clothing as wearing power armor for more than a couple days on end was an exercise in frustration and annoyance, and not something to be suffered through willingly if there was another option. They each chatted for a bit, having seen each other once or twice during training and on scout detail, but not having really gotten to know each other. Blaine was a farmer's son and had worked the fields until he was identified as a potential recruit. Arden on the other hand was noble born, the son of a wealthy duke who had found training difficult, but a welcome change from sitting about in the stuffy keep that he had grown up in.

Marcus talked with them for a while, each speaking of home and wondering what they might see in their service to the chapter, before he set out to explore the ship a little. It was pretty busy in some places, abandoned in others, the marine wandering with little direction or intent beyond seeing interesting things. A large part of the crew was handing offloading of grain and corn from the planet below, those not involved in the cargo loading were checking the ship over in preparation for the warp jump.

>>34264041
>wearing power armor for more than a couple days on end was an exercise in frustration and annoyance

That makes me think, why do we seemingly never see space marines out of power armor?

>>34264257
Dunno really. I mean it's probably made for being worn for long periods of time, but I hardly think that it's comfortable for long term wear, especially once you've been sweating in it, no matter how good the environmental systems are.

I recall one of the Ciaphas Cain books, where an inquisitor who used power armor described the smell inside as 'a mixture of anxiety terror sweat and century old flatulence'

>>34262578
In that case I'll give a crack.

>Six worlds, a moon, and Charon IV
>Of them Dekara is the most Earthlike
>All fall within a quarter G of Earth normal, Save Charon IV at just over two thirds

Dekara
A world coated in mountains, rich in easily mineable ores and fertile valleys. During it's time away from the imperium it never fell below iron age tech, but never rose to Renaissance. This meant, compared to the other planets, it had a relatively large population. Orks are still present, but are burned out by locals to near extinction at 'current times'.

Charon IV
Chosen for it's low gravity yet high metallic content. Not much else to say when the surface is nothing but rust.

Amakahd
A slightly heavier world, and colder. This is where the rhinos come from. The locals call them 'Tumults', and have been using them for farmwork for untold generations. Bamboo have taken the place of grass, which the Tumults heartily browse. A larger than average ork presence hides here, hunting the gentle giants when the locals aren't looking.

Sarsoo
A light moon world with many shallow seas and lakes. The inhabitants grow a lot rice, fight off nightmarish mosquito-esque bugs, and make nice little castles out of wood. Average orks.

Dusenatk
Tropical world. The inhabitants were much more 'primitive', able to hunt a large bird population, stagnating urbanization. Chief supplier of fruits and poultry, Average orks.

Unrelated, scans of Multiversity on /co/. Holy shit what did I just read?

>>34264339
Also... the suits the Conservators are using wouldn't be the most comfortable. They may have a full containment system for space combat... but saying they really fit is a stretch.

>>34264553
Blood-Tree
The colonizers of old tweaked this planet's terraforming in an odd way. It is just like any other save the removal of chlorophyll. Thankfully the old geneticists didn't go as far as foodstuffs, so the crops here grow faster than the weeds. Slightly lighter gravity, green stands out so slightly lower ork presence.

Endurance
The heaviest of the March, and the least populated. The people get by on what they can catch and what crops can grow against the weight. The fields are fertile, but geological activity has sent ash across the world throughout this epoch. Average ork presence.

???

And that's all I got off the top of my head. Was thinking one world would be an always active fight against the orks, sort of a slow war. Thinking back, six may be too few.

bump

>>34265072
Six seems the right number. Also looks good so far. I have to go to work soon. If thread is still here I may add.

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Dusenatk orbits at the inner edge of its sun's habitable zone; as such, it is far hotter than the other inhabited planets in its system. A tropical world, the inhabitants are much more 'primitive', able to hunt a large and colorful bird population roosting throughout the disrepaired skyscrapers resulting from long-term stagnating urbanization. Chief supplier of fruits and poultry, Average orks. On Dusenatk lies the Fortress Monastary of the Conservators Second Company.

Amakahd is very nearly a Death World, its elliptical orbit taking it across the far edge of the habitable zone out beyond the orbit of Harvest Moon. A slightly heavier world, and far colder, this is where the rhinos come from. The locals call them 'Tumults', and have been using them for farmwork for untold generations. Bamboo have taken the place of grass, which the Tumults heartily browse. A larger than average ork presence hides here, hunting the gentle giants when the locals aren't looking. On Amakahd lies the Fortress Monastary of the Conservators Eighth Company (or whichever Space Marine Company traditionally has the role of "mounted cavalry").

Between these two inhabited planets lies a third; Harvest Moon is a sepia-colored gas giant orbiting smack dab in the middle of the star Illustria's habitable zone, and orbited by four inhabited moons:
>[continued]

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>>34268114
Endurance
The heaviest of the March, and the least populated. The people get by on what they can catch and what crops can grow against the weight. The fields are fertile, but geological activity has sent ash across the world throughout this epoch. Average ork presence. On Endurance lie the Fortress Monastaries of the Conservators First & Tenth Companies -- new initiates are given quests that take them from one to the other and back with a couple other stops along the way to kill monsters and complete tasks.

Dekara
A world coated in mountains, rich in easily mineable ores and fertile valleys. During it's time away from the imperium it never fell below iron age tech, but never rose to Renaissance. This meant, compared to the other planets, it had a relatively large population. Orks are still present, but are burned out by locals to near extinction at 'current times'. On Dekara lie the Fortress Monastaries of the Conservators Third, Fourth & Fifth Companies, each of which forms one denomination of a globe-spanning monastic order tied to the planet's Inquisition-approved major religion.

Charon IV
Chosen for it's low gravity yet high metallic content. Not much else to say when the surface is nothing but rust.

Sarsoo
A light moon world with many shallow seas and lakes. The inhabitants grow a lot rice, fight off nightmarish mosquito-esque bugs, and make nice little castles out of wood. Average orks. On Sarsoo lie the Fortress Monastary of the Conservators Sixth & Seventh Companies, which have a kind of Shinto feel to them.

Blood-Tree
The colonizers of old tweaked this planet's terraforming in an odd way. It is just like any other save the removal of chlorophyll. Thankfully the old geneticists didn't go as far as foodstuffs, so the crops here grow faster than the weeds. Slightly lighter gravity, green stands out so slightly lower ork presence. On Blood Tree lies the Fortress Monastary of the Conservators Ninth Company.

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>>34268114
>>34268153
In addition to these inhabited planets and moons, a variety of other bodies orbit Illustria, notably an abandoned Mercury-like planet close to Illustria and riddled with labyrinthine mines long run dry and forever cursed by Daemons; it is into the depths of this forsaken mining planet that bold Conservators descend to recover ancient relics from the Dark Age of Technology. It is known as Hell's Crucible.

....

You know what? There should totally be three moons of Harvest Moon that are generic farm planets where nothing really happens:

>The Maiden
>The Witch
>The Crone

I just want to say, I'm loving these planets.

But since there could be some confusion, the March is more than one star system, it's not just a bunch of planets orbiting one star Firefly style, it's a dozen or so systems.

I like where this thread is going...

Bump

BTW, I propose to change a little bit the name for the Rhino mounts into something that wouldn't be confused with Rhino APC's. Maybe Rhinokeros?

>>34273243
But the confusion is intentional. They ride rhinos like other chapters... just not in them.

>>34273486
Oh, right...dang me.

>>34273486
I do like Rhinokeros as their full name, and they appear on stock lists as such. Often referred to merely as "Beasts" while on the front, Rhinokeros can pull the little artillery the Conservators have for days on end, shunt through blockades and -when properly armoured- become a living battering ram of pack protection instincts and ivory. Now and then one is captured by Orks, thinking they've come up with something brilliant.
But perhaps the true strength to the beasts is their loyalty. One captured by Orks will eat the food provided and do heavy lifting, but on seeing the brown armor of their keepers and likely the grey-green hides of their kin, will slam their kidnappers aside and rejoin the attacking force in stamping out any opposition. Their loyalty extends to protecting a downed rider in the middle of a battlefield, putting their wargear armor and natural plating between their rider and the for until they can be rescued, and indeed are clearly seen to pine after keepers that have fallen in battle or otherwise, similar to that of Terran elephants. There is more than one story of a Rhinokeros, enraged at the loss of a favoured keeper to attack an ork encampment with little to no support and dealing heavy damage before assistance can catch up.

>>34273707
Literal Rhino Rush.

>>34197710
Looking at the first section of the 1d4can page I'm noticing 2 things:
1) the writing is incredibly redundant. The idea of a "plan" bringing the Asharm Marsh "into the wider Imperium" is mentioned three times, as is the "their armour was cast off/donated" by other chapters.
2) Older suits of power amour are considered relics. It's an honour to actually maintain surviving Corvus suits since they haven't been made in nearly 10,000 years. Chapters don't just dump old shit when they get something new. From a fluff standpoint this just doesn't make sense, new chapters would be armed w/ MkVIII exclusive. Having them completely lack terminator armour, dreadnoughts, and possibly land raiders would be a far more fitting and logical choice.

>>34274673
They do lack dreads and terminators. Though you have a point about the armor.

>>34268114
>>34268220
>>34268153

I don't think that these should all be in the same solar system. I don't think that it would even be possible unless they were all moons of one gas giant.

The habitable zone isn't wide enough to accommodate more than two without their gravity wells interacting and one being thrown in or out of the zone.

Width of the zone could be increased if it was a much, much larger star but then you have additional problems with radiation.

Its more of a stellar cluster with the Charon system being somewhere in the middle and the others around it. They don't even need to be the closest systems to it, just the closest currently inhabited ones.

Also you seem to be falling into the Lucas Planet Trap of having just one biome and climate per planet. I know 40k does it sometimes but its still not good.

>>34268578
>>34275736
I was just about done making up a list when I misplaced a backspace. asdfg. This is nifty for inspiration: http://donjon.bin.sh/scifi/system/

>Illustria
(Gas Giant)
Dusenatk
(Rock Planet)x2
(Ice Planet)

>Star
(Rock Planet)
Amakahd close
(Rock Planet)
Amakahd far
(Rock Planet)
Asteroid Belt
(Ice Planet)x4

>Star
(Rock Planet)
Endurance

>Star
(Rock Planet)
Dekara
(Rock Planet)
Asteroid Belt

>Star
(Rock Planet)
Asteroid Belt
Charon IV
(Rock Planet)x2
(Ice Planet)x2
Asteroid Belt

>Star
Blood-Tree
Asteroid Belt
Gas Giant
-Sarsoo
(Ice Planet)

Star
(Rock Planet)
Hell's Crucible
Harvest Moon
-The Maiden
-The Witch
-The Crone
Asteroid Belt

Plus a number of un-inhabited but potentially useful planets. Like the maiden worlds the Eldar were surprised still exist.

>>34274673
The Conservators are wearing mark 5 "heresy" power armor, which... is old power armor stapled together.

Not generally the most revered unlike corvus.

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>>34275736
Dusenatk orbits near the inner edge of its sun's habitable zone; as such, it is far hotter and drier than the other inhabited planets in the March. Technologically the inhabitants were much more primitive before the arrival of the Conservators, most native societies and tribal groups were still in the bronze age with only a very few having discovered how to work iron. The habitable areas of the planet tend to be clustered around the poles where the seas are located and the climate tends to be less arid. At the poles the climate and biome tends to be temperate and even gets snow in the harsher winters. The further from the poles you travel the more intolerable the sun becomes, the drier the ground and the sparser the life until the equatorial Death Belt is reached. Nothing lives in that accursed place forsaken by gods and man.

The lack of life is not the same as claiming it to be uninhabited, if local stories are to be believed.

The Death Belt neatly divides the planets poles and separates them utterly. Before the arrival of the chapter there was no travel between the two. Since then tunnels have been dug.

Dusenatk is a chief supplier of sun loving fruits and poultry. Despite the abundant aquatic life in the shallow polar seas there is no fishing industry as nearly every thing that swims is extremely poisonous. The Apothecaries of the Conservators have taken an in the sea life as they may be able to farm them for toxic weapons or drugs.

The local orks are unremarkable in numbers although tend to be darker in appearance. They are also more common towards the equator, away from the centres of the PDF, and dwell around oases.

On Dusenatk lies the Fortress Monastary of the Conservators Second Company. It is a stark stone structure carved into the side of mount Jindaskaar, also claimed to be the location of the first human settlers to that world back in the days of the Great Diaspora.

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>>34275798
Amakahd was very nearly classified as a Death World, its elliptical orbit taking it across the far edge of the habitable zone out beyond where man was ever meant to dwell. A slightly heavier world than the Terran Norm, and far colder in winter, this is where the gene-spliced Rhinoceros derivative originate. The locals call them 'Tumults', and have been using them for farm work and the movement of heavy objects for untold generations. Bamboo, and descendent species, has taken the place of grass in many places, which the Tumults heartily browse. The bamboo contains a natural anti-freeze that can be refined easily into alcohol, which is burned across the winter months to fend off frostbite.

The long orbit of Amakahd results in nearly a full Imperial standard year of summer and almost three standard years of winter separated by brief springs and autumns. Only at the end of winter are the surplus foodstuffs aloud to be exported.

A larger than average ork presence hides here, hunting the gentle giants when the locals aren't looking. The orks grow dormant in winter but don’t die like humans do in the cold. Spring is the season of war when orks thaw out.

The most popular saying amongst the Amakahdi “Winter never lasts”.

On Amakahd lies the Fortress Monastery of the Conservators Eighth Company amongst glaciers that last all year round beneath the burning nights sky at the northern pole. It has an extensive underground network of tunnels. Some rumors suggest that it is planned to be used as a vast emergency shelter capable of housing millions for centuries in the event of planetary invasion. Or at least will be if they ever finish building it.

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>>34276100
Endurance is the heaviest of the March worlds, and the least populated. The people, shorter and broader on average than most, get by on what they can catch and what crops can grow against the weight. The temperature range is fairly close to Terran norm as a result of the world being slightly further away from a slightly larger star than Sol. There is little difference between seasons as there is almost no axial tilt. The fields are fertile, but geological activity has sent ash across much of the world. The geological upheaval seems to be natural and has been ongoing since at least early to mid M32.

Due to the ashfalls across much of the arable land the mineral content in much of the food is at near toxic levels and many health problems have resulted. Although the locals might be able to tolerate an arsenic rich diet most off-worlders can’t and exports are low as a result.

The ork presence tends to be what would be expected for a world with so much fertile ground although they do seem to be slightly larger than average, possibly as a result of the mineral rich soil.

On Endurance lie the Fortress Monastaries of the Conservators Third & Tenth Companies. The former city-state of Kedul’s Town which is becoming the planetary capital.

The Tenth, with no need to maintain a permenant base as the Third seems to be doing it so well on their own, remains mostly nomadic.

First, I love you guys. Why the hell didn't I come to /tg/ sooner.
Second, we just made space Cuba, and that's awesome. Tropico up in this.

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>>34276459
Dekara is world with a yellow dwarf sun coated in mountains and rich in easily mineral ores and deep fertile valleys born from a previous era of geological activity in pre-history. During it's time away from the Imperium it never fell below Iron Age tech for the most part bar a few isolated communities. This meant, compared to the other planets, it had a relatively large population and a slightly higher overall technological base to grow from. Orks are still present but, due to great efforts on behalf of the chapter and PDF, Slaughtered and burned to near extinction at 'current times'.

On Dekara lie the Fortresses of the Conservators First, Fourth & Fifth Companies, each of which were built in the capital cities of the three biggest and most prosperous nations.

The Fortress of Dun Kworum is the heart of the chapter and, whether the other nations like it or not, the effective seat of the planetary government as far as the greater Imperium is concerned. Which in all fairness is not that much.

The planet itself is pretty typical of any successful Dark Age terraforming project, which is to say earth like but lacking fossil fuels or fossils of any sort. This lack, suffered by all worlds in the March, has hampered industrial growth and technological development but has been mitigated somewhat by charcoal and alcohol.

Dekara has two natural satellites, one two-thirds the size of Luna and the other twice the size of Phobos. Neither have an atmosphere although the larger of the two has got sufficient mineral wealth close to the surface to make mining an economical possibility in the future.

Dekara is also the inter-stellar industrial hub of the March. This is because most of the industrial manufacturing devices acquired on scav runs tend to end up in Kworum. Its still comparatively little trade compared to almost all other worlds in the Imperium but it’s a start the chapter can build from.

>>34275736
Is mentioned somewhere they have 11 systems in their fiefdom I think. Which was stupidly big considering their numbers but within their rights. Including the system containing Chiron IV.

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>>34277016
Sarsoo, a slightly less massive world than Holy Terra and the moon of a brown-dwarf star which itself is in orbit of an orange dwarf star.

Sarsoo and its dead sun, Betenoire, are notably outside the traditional habitable zone of its sun. Betenoire still produces enough heat to help warm the planet to habitable levels. This has resulted in a curiously ubiquitous climate and lack of distinct seasons. The presence of so close an astronomical body has also resulted in massive tidal forces.

Given the geological stability of Sarsoo and the constant mass movement of water there is very little high ground. Most of the planet is covered in a tangled mass of swamps and marshy forests, most of which are completely submerged at high tide. All native life can either swim, fly for extended time or survive extended submersion in briny water. The native human population usually make do with floating raft houses and boats.

Orks are fairly rare as they drown in the ground before they can be born and are usually only capable of breeding on the high ground, which severely limits their numbers.

Fish and amphibians are the main meats and semi-aquatic herbs and fruit from the higher trees make up the rest of the local diet.

The predominant weather over almost all of the planet/moon is impenetrable overcast and fog. Because of the cosmological oddity the days are not particularly bright and the nights are lighter than on most other worlds. It’s a world of twilight and gloom.

The people tend to be pale. Very pale. Albinism is not uncommon.

On Sarsoo lies the Fortress Monastery of the Conservators Sixth & Seventh Companies. Unlike most shared planets they dwell in the same structure. This may be a result of the sparse building ground and the nomadic nature of the population.

>>34275798
>>34276100
>>34276459
>>34277016
I love all of this. Thanks so much.

>>34276763
That... is not a completely inaccurate assessment.

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>>34277429
Blood-Tree
The scientists of yore tweaked this planet's terraforming in an strange way. It is in nature similar to any other of Earth decent and many organisms can have their ancestry traced back to old earth species with relative reliability. Sadly, and no sensible explanation can be given as to why beyond the universal and oh so human one “Because we could”.

Much of the planets native plant life was altered to be radio and thermosynthetic to take advantage of the planets many volcanic vents and notably high radiation level.

Thankfully they left edible plants photosynthetic.

Given the lack of green in the all of the planets environments the orks tend to stand out quite a lot and are punished all the harder for it.

Blood-Tree aquired its name from the red sap that many of the tree analogues possess.

Fortress of the Conservators Ninth Company is found on Blood-Tree in the island of Molndurin the inland sea of the central continent. It is a trade and commercial hub and the chapter maintains its hold on this world by trade.

The nations bordering the inland sea, of which each nation has a different name for, enjoy a nice Mediterranean climate and are the centres of learning and wealth on the planet. This is changing as the other civilizations are being uplifted by the chapter, much to the annoyance of the older powers.

Of all the inhabited planets of the March Blood-Tree is unique in that it is a twin planet. The planet it is twined with, although obviously in the stars habitable zone, has entirely the wrong chemical composition for terraforming to be possible. It’s like a slightly cooler Venus. This difference indicates that they probably formed from different areas of the solar accretion disc and acquired their close proximity at a later time.

The lagrange point between the two planets is planned to be the sight of the Conservators first ship yard with which they will build a fleet to retake Charon IV in many centuries to come.

>>34276763
Maybe it makes more sense in america, but why is an order of noble knights fighting the darkness no matter how poor their equipment like Cuba?

>>34277995
Trade embargo with the biggest source of, well, anything. Lots of crops. Continuously repairing stuff other 'countries' would scrap. A leader that seems to never die.

>>34277995
Small, weak, outdated tech and not getting anything new because nobody trades with them and the nearest people who could be the best trading partner make a specific point of not trading with them.

Culturally no relation, but there is some similarity in that regard.

>>34277429
The fortress monestary being a sturdy wooden houseboat which contains;
Captain Gerald Fitzpatrick, of the sixth company
Captain Patrick Fitzgerald, the seventh company
One suit of Mk. V power armor
An assortment of furniture
One boltpistol
3 Bolt-rounds
The two captains respective swords
4 and a half large bottles of local alcohol
And an irate tomcat named Rogal.

>>34277995
Well they are brown... also favor the people over almost every thing.

>>34278093
Is the tomcat a mascot, or merely impossible to catch?

>>34276763
That reminded me of the Black Locks. They themselves lived in a cluster of star systems known as the Calico Stars that can be described as Caribbeans in Space.

Still fleshing them out by implementing all the elements from their threads.

I think they would like the Conservators due to them not being this strict. The fact they also like to drink alcoholic beverages would also be a plus from their point of view.

>>34278140
A little of column A, a little of column B.
And when I say captain, the seventh company, I mean he himself is the entirety of the seventh company. He doesn't seem to mind.

Thanks a flippin' lot for bringing this chapter to my knowledge, now I want to have a scout squad armed with bows and some marines from this chapter in my Imperial Fists army.

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>>34277870
In addition to these the inhabited planets and moons, a variety of other astronomical bodies of note exist in the Asharn March. Some of the most notable are:

An abandoned Mercury-like planet close to Illustria and riddled with labyrinthine mines long run dry; it was into the depths of this forsaken mining planet that bold Conservators descend to recover ancient relics from the Dark Age of Technology. Few made it back alive as the artificial intellect that dwelt in that accursed place did not enjoy its slumber being disturbed by those who would plunder its hoard of secrets and wonders. Hell’s Crucible they named it upon their return and never again have men stepped upon that world.

The fleet of the dead. What appears to be a treasure trove of archo-tech. An entire colony fleet from the First Stellar Exodus, wrecked and dead and hanging in space. It fades away as ships approach it and all anyone can hear is weeping or cruel laughter across all radio waves. And the nightmares. Never sleep if you are in any sort of close proximity to the Fleet of the Dead.

>>34278407
I'm beginning to see why the Mechanicus were pissed at the Cconservators. Not just a brand spanking new Forge World, but access to Hell's Crucible and the Fleet of the Dead for all that lovely archaeotech.
I wonder if the Conservators are able to tempt the AdMech with a few choice artefacts that the Chapter itself cannot use from time to time in exchange for a few standard issue weapons.

>>34279493
Granted the fact that Hell's Crucible contains all the horrors of a Dark Age machine gone mad and the Fleet of the Dead is intangible probably not.

>>34279493
More likely they funnel them through their trade partner, or add it to the 'list of opportunities'. That discreet call for disillusioned tech priests and such.

I only see them taking on those too treasure troves once Charon is cleaned up. So not remotely soon.

>>34279580
Even if they build their Empire to Rival Ultramar and make the mechanicus beg for the privilege of trading with them they probably shouldn't go to Hell's Crucible.

Nothing the Imperium has is up there with the sort of things a Dark Age A.I. could throw at them. Flesh eating nanotechnology clouds and frictionless, physics defying bullets are just the tip of the iceberg.

Do conservators ever wear purity seals or the like? I know they're not terribly Emperors focussed but they sure as hell are Imperium loving.

>>34278093
Is this a reference to something?

>>34282056
No. Superfluous decoration.

>>34282133
Huh. How do we tell between veterans and freshly inducted marines without going by the amount of superglued gilt and shinies..

>>34282388
Whoever has the most dented and scratched gear.

>>34282388
Service studs.

>>34278093
I'd originally envisioned the Sixth & Seventh Companies as having Japanese-style castles, but this is just so much better.

Instead of a houseboat, the Fortress Monestary is a swift & mighty seven-masted schooner with which Gerald & Patrick et al patrol the seas for monsters and pirates while shuttling freight and passengers across the ocean.

>>34283475
They will be fine leaders.

When they have someone to lead.

"Welcome aboard fellow space marine!"

"Greetings brother. This ship will take us to your fortress monastery?"

"This ship -is- our fortress monastery."

"I... see. So where are the sixth and seventh companies?"

"Right here lad."

"Emperor preserve us..."

>>34283586
They do have a crew of scouts I take it?

>>34283621
Scouts, or perhaps local seafarers. As magnificent as the vision is, I highly doubt two marines alone can crew a ship.

>>34283650
>it's just a dinghy
>the cat is all the more impressive for not being caught
>fuck that cat
>if I see it one more fucking time..

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>>34283475
>>34283586
> Japanese-style castles

Subarashi. This pleases Rising Sons.

>>34283792
>>34283650
Sounds good to me.

Also you know what this means.

That Conservators recruited from this world would, by dint of their heritage, carry marine-sized katanas, or other Japanese swords.

I have no issues with this.

I like to think that with all the gently whirring and warm cybernetics McFaber has, he's often seen in the company of a cat resting on his lap, which look more like kittens compared to the veteran marine. There's at least two dozen semi ferals around Dun Kworum who manage to nap in a helmet always on the day that marine needs to don't his wargear once more and ride out, hide in the middle of a Techmarine's project and refuse to come out, and regularly trip an unsuspecting marine as he walks the corridors.
But they're such a fixture in the citadel they wouldn't have it any other way now.

>>34284112
I do. I was joking about the dinghy, and marine katanas just are the worst idea to add to them.

>>34284139
As long as nobody claims katanas are the best swords in the universe, I have no issues with them.

My friend has one, it's alright, nothing wrong with it, it works for him, I like my longswords but at the end of the day it's a matter of taste.

>>34284272
Were already home brewing a chapter here. Besides, they're just the wrong weapon in every way. Katanas are to take down unarmored or lightly armoured opponents. Orks strap entire junkyards to themselves where possible, so you need a crushing weapon. Plus everyone in the 40k verse has the monthly production of a small steel mill worn as light gear.
I can see some use in a light blade for the local Orks who can't obtain armor, but that's about it.

>>34284272
Katanas are actually equal in terms of sharpness, yet they lack in the toughness department. Although you can quickly unsheath them with the proper technique.

In terms of attack speed, katanas are better.

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You guys do know they had broadswords in the far East, right?

>>34284369
If we did go that route they'd most likely use a japanese inspired two handed sword which... I forget the name of.

It's not that important though, don't want to deviate too much from the feel, but the differing cultures add even more diversity to an already downright chimeric chapter, since each marine from different worlds carries the martial tradition of that world with them.

As for the captains, I'll say they still live on a barge together, but actually have marines under their command, they just chose to maintain a more aloof air and only show up to lead directly when their presence is truly needed, preferring that their marines, who live in those wooden castles on the dry peaks, learn in their own way and keep the commanders in a position of mystery as the seldom glimpsed wise men.

>>34284411
That looks nice.

Also please let's not have this devolve into arguing about eastern vs western swords.

Thread is autosaging anyways so I guess it doesn't matter, but let's keep it civil, alright?

>>34284563
I'm just saying Easternish culture doesn't necessitate katanas. From what I understand that evolved from a lack of materiel, so they just had to use that materiel for all its worth.
Doesn't look like lack of steel is a biter here, so you could explore other, heftier, styles.

>>34284563
An eastern sword would be neat.
Its just that a katana is the wrong choice of sword against the opponents they'll likely face. Like bringing a dagger to a fencing competition. And well, the whole... demographic katanas attract and the counter-culture. We really don't need any of that.
A large Chinese sword might be nice, Japanese stiff gets a little overused. Plus we have the Rhinokeros eating bamboo.

>>34284663
>>34284637
Yeah, sounds good. It's just that 'katana' is the only eastern sword I know how to spell the name of... Really eastern inspired swords have a wide gamut that I'd be fine with.

Each world should have its own martial tradition reflected in the usual types of swords seen there. Sabers, rapiers, broadswords, bastard swords, flambarges, there's a lot of possibilities.

>>34284785
Somewhat unfortunately, all the swords will be of the "crushing using superior strength against heavily armoured opponents" variety. A rapier using marine would be an astounding fencer, but alas he'll not meet opponents where a rapier is the best choice. If marines are called in, the enemy is big and tough, and has big guts.
That said, there is still some wiggle room, plus there's always that one guy who prefers axes or a mace. But light pointers and quick slashers are highly unlikely. You need something that can cut through a Tyranids armor and smash it's internals.

>>34284865
As I see it personally, a marine with a rapier would be pretty deadly. A space marine has the kind of hand-eye coordination, reflexes, vision and precision of movement needed to consistently hit weak spots like eyes or the gaps in armor at the joints.

Just because they're strong doesn't mean that strength is their greatest asset, they're also extremely fast and very well coordinated.

>>34284932
That blade is going to break sooner rather than later though. The marine with a large metal plank is still chopping.

It's also.. I don't know.. Just weirdly non-metal, a rapier using power armor guy.
And that's important. How metal something is. Two grandmaster soldiers on a ship duelling to sharpen each other's skills as waves and spray batter the ship is fairly metal.

>>34285046
>Space marine rapier is not metal

Challenge accepted good anon, I feel the writefaggotry overtaking me.

It is a good pain.

>>34285118
Have him as that one guy in the company no one can work out how the hell he does it. Like, logically he should just not be that consistent. When other marines give it a go they end up snapping their test blades and go back to their greatswords and Chinese two-handers.
But he does and that's what matters and thats awesome.

Also for a normal human it's basically a zweihander.

>>34285118
Battle brother Arakin Donnel of the Conservators third company moved forward at a steady jog. Of course for an astartes, a steady jog outstripped the sprinting pace of most humans, and the marine was making swift time through the damaged cityscape. The marine's senses were sharp, his eyes flicking back and forth behind the impassive metal helm of his Mk V armor, the thud of his constant footfalls playing in counterpoint to the distant sounds of gunfire. For all his constant caution, the marine's soul was singing as it had not for some time, this was one of the few times he had been able to travel beyond the March, and he was excited.

Skyllian V was nothing out of the ordinary as far as imperial worlds were concerned. It's architecture was standard Gothic poured straight out of an administratum-approved ferrocrete mold. It's tithe was as vital as any other Imperial world, finished goods, weapons, and fighting men, industrial supplies, lasguns, flak armor in enough quantity to have a small surplus left over after equipping their own Imperial Guard regiments. Overall it was nothing too special compared to any other world. But for Arakin, it was a place of wonder.

The buildings around him were strange, the places he had fought before were large open meadows or barren rocky plateau, he had never seen anything like this before. The sight of this strange city was fascinating to him, and his keen eyes were taking note of various things he saw as he ran along, making mental notes to come back and examine them more closely when he had time. When there was not a battle to be fought.

Skyllian V was not a peaceful place today. Today it was infested with Orks.

>>34285188
It's going to be a fairly rare fighting style. Not a one of a kind style, but not the norm even from his world.

>>34285383
Yeah, probably should have been more clear. There's always that ONE guy in every company who uses some unorthodox style. Either rapier, scimitar, axe or whatever. Most just go for a variety on large one or two handers.

>>34283475
With the cultural blade or whatever of the planet being a bigass, wide bladed cutlass/Chinese broadsword sword of thing.