[Metaquest Post]

Made a few changes to Root of All Life.

Updated character sheet with Celestial Iron and Sanctuary.

Updated Realm sheet. Maths was mostly correct, except for my maths, since the cost of Church of Konig reduced due to Sofia’s presence. I recalculated everything myself just to be sure. Please check for errors of course.

Included in this is some of the *extras* such as the ogres.

[End Metaquest Post]

Which do you seek out first?

>Red
>Silver

And who do you take with you?
>Go alone
>Take with me...(who?)

Please limit additional party members to no more than 3.


And how will you find this dragon?

You have a good idea of their territory, and might be able to find their lair.
Or you could wait nearby for another sighting and confront them
Or you could use magic to find them (optional)

>Search for lair
>Wait
>Scry
>Other

>>34409584
>Silver
>Alone (It might not react well to Shahulzer)

>Scry

>>34409584
>Red
>Go alone

>Scry

>>34409584
>Silver
>Go alone

>Scry

>You’re in a relationship with Jal and Sofia. You’ve been spend a lot of time together, getting to know each other.
The physical side of your relationship is limited to kissing, cuddling and caressing, you’re not ready for anything more yet.

Maybe this should be mentioned in an early update, not everyone reads the charsheet, and its a fairly significant change.

>>34409572
What's the change to RoaL? Doesn't seem different from before.

>>34409572
oh, Ebonsong can shift to humanoid form? Nice.

>>34409625

And yes, what this anon said. It would be neatto have such things exposed in an update instead of hidden in the sheet.

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>>34409625
>You’re in a relationship with Jal and Sofia. You’ve been spend a lot of time together, getting to know each other. The physical side of your relationship is limited to kissing, cuddling and caressing, you’re not ready for anything more yet.
>pic related


I want the character development but it just leaves me with a pit in my stomach.

>>34409572
Have the dragons actually done anything harmful? Are there any complaints, or is there anyone who has actually interacted with them?

>>34409584
>Silver
>Take our resident dragon. He might know 'dragon etiquette' if something like that exists.


Some more things I thought about since last time: The cool-down on eating storms for for exp was a year, wasn't it? We should do that when we are out filling our storm-node. Could we eat storms that we have created ourself?

Can effects of spells and magic items stack? For example, would Sireyi benefit from having an item with Sanctuary on it while also casting it herself?

You’ve also been spending a lot of time with Sofia and Jal, getting to know them better. The two of them are very open to the idea of a relationship with you.
Whilst it’s clear to anyone who sees the three of you together, that you are in a relationship, you are taking it slow.
Despite Jal being a little pushy, the physical side of your relationship hasn’t progressed very far, you want to make sure that both her and Sofia are comfortable with you, and that you won’t come between them.

You also spend a lot of time with Mili and Vivi, watching them grow up, seeing them learn about the world. To the kids, you, Sofia and Jal are all *mama* with your names as suffixes – or as much as they can pronounce of your name. They call you “Mama Reyi”.

Ebonsong has grown a lot over the last year, she’s the size of a large horse, and too big to fit in your bedchambers, resulting in her sleeping in the stables, with a lot of whining.

Fortunately her control over her magical powers has also increased. She is able to cast simple spells, and can shapeshift, sort of.

Her best attempt at a human shape is that of a half-dragon/half-human. In this form she appears to be a 10 year old half-dragon girl, complete with wings, scales, claws and a tail. She wants to be involved in everything, and begs and pleads to come with you as you prepare to hunt down the other dragons.

“No” you say to her firmly “And that’s final” She stalks off in a sulk as you prepare to scry out the lair of the silver dragon.

Please roll 1d20+13 for scrying

>>34409664
Apologies, should be updated now

>>34409625
>>34409696
I was intending to include it in the general year description, I updated the character sheet early to be prepared. I didn't realise anyone read the character sheets outside of skill rolls, combat etc.

My apologies for hiding stuff, it was not my intent.

>>34409754
Another thing: How long does it take to create Celestial Iron? If its just a day or so, we could simply create a small amount once a month when no strenuous activity is planned, without needing to spend a significant amount time on it.

Rolled 13 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34409780

Rolled 12 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34409780
Finding dragon go

Rolled 5 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34409780
rolling

Rolled 7 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34409780
>and too big to fit in your bedchambers, resulting in her sleeping in the stables, with a lot of whining.
Why can't she sleep in our bedchamber in her human form ?

>My apologies for hiding stuff, it was not my intent.
I didn't intend to imply that nor did I thought you hid something, don't worry.

>>34409780
>“No” you say to her firmly “And that’s final”
Oh, I had thought she would accompany us by default until she got her own charsheet at juvenile.
I actually wanted to take her along.

>>34409817
>Why can't she sleep in our bedchamber in her human form ?

I'm guessing this has to do with the "sort-of" clause.

>>34409780
>she’s the size of a large horse, and too big to fit in your bedchambers
How small are those bedchambers? I know I could fit a horse into my room if I really cared and I'm not a Baroness. Couldn't we just get a bigger room (or better yet get the girl her own room close by)?

>>34409851
I thought that refered to the fact that she still looks very draconic.

It wasn't meant very serious, but it seems unfair to me that someone of the intelligence of a young child should sleep in the stable, like a horse. That isn't right in my book, so either she gets her own bedroom, probably necessary later anyway, or we have to find her a furnished lair in the dungeons of the castle or something.

Your scrying spell easily bypasses the basic protections this young dragon has taken. You see the silver dragon asleep in a cave, on a small bed of gold coins, he (she?) matches the descriptions given, a juvenile dragon perhaps 12ft long.

You widen the scope of the spell and see that her lairs layout is fairly basic: an entrance at the top that can only be entered by flying (or a very skilled climber), as well as several passages leading off into smaller caves that could be used for a smaller dragon to hide from a larger one.

The side passages may also be secondary entrances/exits.

Widening it further, you manage to locate the lair in the mountains. Since you’re going alone, going in through the main entrance would be easy, or you could try to locate the (possible) side-exits.

>Go in via the main entrance
>Side-entrance
>Other (i.e. teleport etc)

And your approach?

>Announce yourself openly
>Sneak in
>Other

[Metapost]

Ebonsong clarification

What I meant to convey (but didn't), was that she's too big to fit in your bed, and getting in and out of your bedchambers is tricky. She can change shape, but it takes her several minutes to do so, so she normally doesn't bother unless she really needs to.

She's at that age where she's big enough to be a target in a fight, but not yet tough enough to fight effectively against many of the foes you face. Taking her into fights at this point would be a bad idea.

The stables is a temporary measure, until you figure out permanent.

[End Metapost]

>>34409851
I can imagine her accidentally shifting back and causing damage in sleep.

I think she needs space in order not to destroy anything, and if destroyed less harm is done.

>>34409916
>Go in via the main entrance
>Announce yourself openly

>>34409916
>teleport
>Announce yourself openly

Need to show power in-front of a dragon.

>>34409916
>Go in via the main entrance

>Announce yourself openly

>>34409916
>Ebonsong clarification
Okay, that sounds reasonable and fair, actually.

>Go in via the main entrance
>Announce yourself openly

>>34409916
>Go in via the main entrance
>Announce yourself openly

>>34409916
Do dragons here have the Metallic/Chromatic enmity ?

>>34409780
>I was intending to include it in the general year description, I updated the character sheet early to be prepared. I didn't realise anyone read the character sheets outside of skill rolls, combat etc.
Did Isla get the Boot? She seemed to have a lot of support last thread?

>>34409916
>Main entrance
>Announce yourself properly

I'd prefer that we hail the dragon from outside, rather than bursting into her/his lair.

>>34409962
I am now very sad

>>34409962
But less so then Sofia/Jal, and dating three people at once is probably too much.
It can still be a thing, once we have a firmer relationship with them, and they are okay with Isla.

>>34409977
I counted even or greater support for Isla actually.

>>34409962
>>34409975
>>34409977
Who knows, maybe it won't work out with Jalfia. Dating two people at once isn't exactly easy.

>>34409988
Then you counted wrong. I counted with the actual voting, and Isla was off by at least one.
Some people voted for all three, so that might have caused the confusion.

>>34409962
>>34409977
>>34409988

Dosn't Isla want a lot of children?

To get to that level of relationship with her, we need to work on Sofia/Jal to be comfortable with that.

>>34409916
>Go in via the main entrance
>Announce yourself openly

>>34409996
That isn't at all necessary, dating Sofia/Jal doesn't preclude Isla, just for the immediate future we have a different relationship to develop.

>>34410000
I counted the votes for "Isla, but Sofia and Jal are okay I guess." as votes primarily for Isla. Because that's what they obviously were.

>>34410024
That was my vote. I wanted Isla, but was okay with the other two to avoid this.

>>34410024
There was 4 votes for Isla and 5 for Sofia (4 for Jal since one only voted for Sofia), even discounting those amybe ones.

>>34410000
Sofia - 1
Sofia and Jal - 4
Isla - 4
Isla/All Three - 1


Two of the Isla votes were okay with Sofia/Jal and the 'All Three' vote was made in response to someone voting for Isla, stating that they would also be sad if we don't date Isla.
So it's kind of a tie.

>>34410065
You missed a vote, it was pretty close to the end and didn't use greentext.

You teleport to the general area in the mountains and fly towards the young dragons lair. Once you are outside you announce yourself in a loud voice.

“I am Baroness Sireyi Valyenya” you say “Paladin of Velya, and I would like to speak to you, please.”

You wait for several minutes.

An unseen voice answers you “Who?” the voice is clearly draconic, and what living with two dragons, you think the voice sounds feminine rather than masculine.

You repeat your introduction.

“How do I know this isn’t some sort of trick of Harugrads?” asks the voice

“Who’s Harugrad?” you ask.

There’s a pause, and then the head and neck of a silver dragon rises out of the rock, right where the top entrance is. She must be clinging to the side of the rock, ready to flee up or down at a moments notice.

“He’s the red that says he owns this part of the mountains” says the young silver dragon “Don’t you know anything?”

“I didn’t know that” you admit

“Why are you here, what do you want?” She, yes, definitely she, asks.

>Who are you?
>Ask about Harugrad
>I own this land
>I seek an alliance
>You’re raiding my villages, this needs to stop
>Other

[Metapost, Borders: Your borders with baronies in Dornmer are clearly defined, your border with the orc tribes are not, as far as the Kingdom of Dornmer is concerned, you own as much of these mountains as you can defend. The common folk seem to think the border is where the hills stop, and the mountains begin – you are currently beyond that point.

Relationships: One at a time. Isla lost to Jal and Sofia by a very narrow vote. Isla will still be an option for next years vote, she is not ruled out. First you need to see how you get on with Jal and Sofia, then you’ll think about adding someone else.]

>>34410075
I didn't get a chance to vote yesterday. Add 1 more to all three

>>34410065
5 for Isla, you missed one. Nested

>>34409780
>Expansion

Aww yiss. Time for a baby boom!

>>34410075
>So it's kind of a tie.
Vote nestling, pah.
But to be serious, I have no issue with Isla myself. I personally just wanted to tr a relationship with the mothers of our children first. Once we have a stable relationship (or married) and the two are okay with it (and I see no reason wy not), I'm open to Isla.

>>34410077
>>Who are you?
>>Ask about Harugrad
>You’re raiding my villages, this needs to stop

>>34410086
I doubt we'll be considering having children with anyone that isn't one of our lovers, anon.
Which currently includes zero people.

>>34410077
>Who are you?
>Ask about Harugrad
>You’re raiding my villages, this needs to stop

>>34410077
>Who are you?
>Ask about Harugrad
>You’re raiding my villages, this needs to stop

>>34410077
> Who are you?

Politely requested as a courtesy, seeing as we've introduced ourselves.

>>34410077
I'd argue that it was a tie, actually. I am rather grumpy that she lost. Though I suppose I'll be okay with it if we automatically add her next year.

>>34410113
>I doubt we'll be considering having children with anyone that isn't one of our lovers
While I heavily dislike that expansion, and will vote against purchasing RoaL, if we do get it, I could see Sireyi using it to give some unfortunate pair that can't have children, or maybe peole in the position that Sofia was in, a child. Maayyybe.

>>34410103
>I personally just wanted to tr a relationship with the mothers of our children first.
And I personally considered that entire slog through the other plane to be an incredibly annoying waste of time. To me Isla is by far the most important, she isn't secondary in any way.

>>34410121
>I'd argue that it was a tie, actually.
It was not at all. It Isla tied with Sofia/Jal alone, even considering a nestled vote, which I would usually discount, several Isla votes said all three, even if reluctantly.
And I wouldn't go so far to say automatically, if she really is all that popular, than she has good chances I would say.

>>34410138
Others disagree. It is as it is.
But to be fair, I didn't njoy the other plane adventure all that much either. Sofia/Jal and Ebonsong are the good things that came of it in my eyes.

>>34410077
>One at a time. Isla lost to Jal and Sofia by a very narrow vote. Isla will still be an option for next years vote, she is not ruled out. First you need to see how you get on with Jal and Sofia, then you’ll think about adding someone else.
You sure you can't do all three? Please? I'm basically staying in the quest for her.

>>34410159
He just said we can do all three, just over time and not right now.

>>34410077
>Who are you?
>Ask about Harugrad
>You’re raiding my villages, this needs to stop
>I seek an alliance

>>34410126
>I heavily dislike that expansion
Noted, I'll keep that in mind when creating XP sheets in the future.

Just for clarification, do you have something against the expansion itself, or is it more the main power that you disagree with?

Personally, I have nothing against it and wouldn't mind using it to have children with Isla or another of our lovers, but I fear what people will do with it, or try to do with it.

>>34410159
Years go by quickly, anon.
We'll be dating her before the thread is through, most likely.

>>34410077
>Relationships: One at a time. Isla lost to Jal and Sofia by a very narrow vote. Isla will still be an option for next years vote, she is not ruled out. First you need to see how you get on with Jal and Sofia, then you’ll think about adding someone else.]
any chance we can have a revote on who do go after first?

>>34410172
>Years go by quickly, anon.
I just really, really don't want to put her second.

>>34410172
>Years go by quickly, anon.
She'll basically be heartbroken for a year though, which is not something the other two will go through.

>>34410175
None. Isla lost a perfectly fair vote, and we had already voted a long time ago to give Jal/Sofia a chance so its perfectly reasonable that they come first.

>>34410172
>do you have something against the expansion itself
I have something against the ideas that seem to sorround it , honestly.

>>34410187
Considering that Jal and Sofia are literally the mothers of our children, she is already second. Htough I doubt that matters much to Sireyi and the three who "came first", since Sofia and Jal already have eachother, so Isla will have plenty Seiryi to herself.

>>34410187
Best option for that at this stage is probably to stall things with Jal & Sofia until it becomes an issue. Complaining on the sidelines isn't going to win the swing vote, especially when a re-vote isn't being held.

Fuck yeah paladin of joy quest!

>>34410187
I don't want to either, but I'd like to think she'd understand that we wanted to cement a relationship with the mothers of our children.
At least, that's how I'm rationalizing it to myself.

>>34410209
I'm aware, that's part of why I voted for her.

>>34410213
Technically it was a tie with a miscount due to nested or vague votes.

>>34410209
No she won't. Not anymore than she had been for a long time. And I doubt Isla is so narrow she ca't see why Sireyi would take interst in a relationship with Sofia/Jal first, its pretty obvious.

>>34410220
>to stall things with Jal & Sofia until it becomes an issu
Why ? Seriously, why this pettiness ?
Stalling things with Sofia/Jal just means Isla won't get a chance at all, since Sireyi now has a relationship with them and will want to see that one firm, before making another one. The best option for Isla fans is to have Seiryi/Sofia/Jal develop quickly, so they will faster feel comfortable with a fourth partner.

>>34410237
>miscount due to nested or vague votes.
I hope thats a incentive for people to stop making vague or nested votes.
Your actual vote should be greentexted and the commentary should be normal beneath it, to make sure it won't be confused with the vote. Its not hard to do.

“Might I ask” you say “Whom I have the honour of addressing?”

“I” she says “Am Nicolvren” as she speaks she crawls out of her cave and walks towards you, towering over you.

“And what” she asks “Are you? I’ve never seen a winged human before.”

“I’m a half-angel” you say “And I don’t understand, you said Harugrad claims this is his territory, and yet you live here?”

“He’s slow and stupid and easily tricked” she says “He can’t find my lair and I always spot him before he spots me – he’s said he’ll kill any dragon that trespasses on his land.”

Hmm, you’d best make sure Ebonsong and Shahulzer know about that, Shahulzer can handle himself in a fight against another dragon, but Ebby...

“Both of you” you say “Have been raiding my villages, I need this to stop.”

“Your villages?” she asks “How can they be your villages? I’ve never seen you there.”

“The King of Dornmer made me Baroness of these lands” you explain “The people in it are my responsibility.”

“Well” she says “you clearly aren’t doing a very good job, if you’re not there when I go to collect a few sheep. If the humans there can’t protect their animals, and if you’re not around, then the sheep deserve to be taken.”

“Just because someone isn’t around” you say “Doesn’t mean they relinquish ownership – what if I were to sneak into your lair and steal your hoard whilst you were away, would that be ok?”

“Just try it!” she snarls, her wings rising above her to make herself look bigger.

“I have no plan to” you say “I was just making a point.”

Her brow furrows as she thinks about this, finally she speaks

“Fine, ok, what do I get if I stop taking your humans sheep?”

>I’ll help with Harugrad
>I was thinking more of an alliance
>It’s the right thing to do
>You’ll get hurt if you don’t
>Other

>>34410245
>why this pettiness ?

Calm down. Accepting the result of the vote - to pursue a relationship with Sofia and Jal - is hardly petty. How well that goes is not yet decided. Obviously you have ideas about it, but I think it's fair that everyone participating in the thread is allowed an opinion.

>>34410279
>I’ll help with Harugrad
>It’s the right thing to do

>>34410283
Saying you want to stall things out just because you dislike the winning option, is rather petty in my eyes.
I have no issue with people who want to persue another romance, thats fine. But lines like "the best thing is to stall unil it becomes a issue", doesn't sound like accepting to me.

>>34410279

>I’ll help with Harugrad
>It’s the right thing to do
>I was thinking more of an alliance

>>34410279
> Other: Appeal to Nicolvren's pride

"Do you really want to fill your belly by swiping domestic animals? You look like a skillful hunter to me."

>This probably leads to "I'll help with Harugrad"

>>34410279
How about a sort of mercenary deal. She gets some stuff from the villages (without retribution), in exchange she helps defend this part of the border against orcs. If she needs help against other powerful beings encroaching in her territory, we help her (if we're here).

If there's a fight, remember to use the lightning core.

>>34410220
>Best option for that at this stage is probably to stall things with Jal & Sofia until it becomes an issue.
I think thats the wrong way to look at it. Seiryi is now already in a relationship with the two. Going for Isla after that failed would just make her "second choice" after she couldn't get the first one. Its a lot better if Seiryi does sucesfully develop her relationship further with them and then still thinks of Isla and wants to involve her. That way its Seiryi putting her childrens mothers first, but still showing feeling for Isla, rather than taking her after the other thing failed.

>>34410279
>>I’ll help with Harugrad
>>I was thinking more of an alliance

ok, roll 1d20+19 for talking

>>34410279
>I’ll help with Harugrad
>I was thinking more of an alliance
>It’s the right thing to do

Rolled 1 + 19 (1d20 + 19)

>>34410393

Rolled 11 + 19 (1d20 + 19)

>>34410393

Rolled 7 + 19 (1d20 + 19)

>>34410393
Second 1 coming up!

>>34410319
For people who really find the vote unpalatable, there are three options. Demand a revote, accept the vote but attempt to win the majority in future votes, or submit utterly. I'm for the middle course, but if you insist that it's impossible then I will have to go over to insisting on a revote.

Rolled 4 + 19 (1d20 + 19)

>>34410393

Rolled 13 + 19 (1d20 + 19)

>>34410393
rolling

>>34410407
You could also just accept the vote and make the best of it ?
Attempting to win the majority in the future
has nothing to do with
sabotaging the outcome of the other vote.
Feel free to vote for developing a relationship with Isla in the future, but I don't see why that would require sabotaging the Sofia/Jal relationship. Isla is already second now. If thats so important to you, even though I don't really see why.

>>34410373
That depends on what stalling ensues. I don't think it's going to be earth-shaking, it'll just mean that things never really get past platonic - and telling Isla that the children were a priority is going to be fairly easy to swallow.

>>34410427
I have a different notion of "make the best of it" to yours. Why do you find that so offensive?

>>34410407
I don't see what your problem is, Isla already got Seiryis first kiss. I'm sure she can wait for a while so Seiryi can grow closer to people that are reallyi important in her life.

>>34410443
Its already past platonic, though.

>>34410454
I don't, I have no idea why you would think that. I just find trying to sabotage it because your favorite girl didn't win is a bit petty. I don't find it offensive at all.

>>34410407
Is your interpretation of the middle option to just try and win the vote on who to date next year?

>Success

“I can help with Harugrad” you say “maybe get him to stop hunting you.”

“And how will you do that?” she scoffs “You don’t look like you could scare him off.”

“I was thinking I could talk to him” you say “work out a compromise, this region is big enough for both of you, he doesn’t need to try and chase you off.”

She smirks “I’d like to see you try that” she says “The only thing he understands is force, besides, even if the territory is split, most of the humans will be in my part. Their sheep are pretty tasty.”

“Chasing penned animals is beneath a hunter like yourself” you say, appealing to her pride “I bet you could catch much wilder game.”

“True” she says “Very true. I am a great hunter.”

“And” you say “It is the right thing to do, taking what belongs to others is wrong.”

She screws up her face, trying to disagree “But they have so many” she says, “Are they really going to miss just one?”

“They’re not that bad at counting” you say “But if finding food is an issue...well I was also thinking about an alliance between us, you help me, I help you, that sort of thing.”

She considers this “Maybe” she says “It depends if you manage to convince Harugrad to leave me alone.”

>Right, I’ll be back after visiting Harugrad
>Talk more (about what?)
>Other

>>34410464
>Right, I’ll be back after visiting Harugrad

>>34410464
>>Right, I’ll be back after visiting Harugrad

>>34410464
>Right, I’ll be back after visiting Harugrad


I'm going to go pass out soon. Hopefully I'll be back later. If not thanks for running as always Pally.

>>34410461
When you're on to denouncing pettiness and sabotage, you're offended. And the quest information -

>The physical side of your relationship is limited to kissing, cuddling and caressing, you’re not ready for anything more yet.

- doesn't suggest that Sireyi's relationship with Jal and Sofia is particularly carnal.

>>34410462
Depends on what comes up. I don't intend to vote for some random about-face, if that's what you're asking.

>>34410464
>Right, I’ll be back after visiting Harugrad
>Tell her that other dragons might have to fly through this territory at some point in the future

>>34410464
>Ask her where his lair is.
>Mention that there are two other dragons with us, they are friends and won't try to take her territory. Briefly describe them.

>>34410464
>Right, I'll be back after visiting Harugrad

>>34410502
Not really no, I was just expressing my opinion on that practice. Just like you were expressing your opinion on this vote. I don't ask why you find this vote outcome so offensive, do I ? Because having a aopinion isn't being offended.

And kissing and caressing is not platonic anymore. Platonic would mean no romantic touching at all, since platonic love is defined as love without the physical.

>>34410464
>Ask her where his lair is.
>Mention that there are two other dragons with us, they are friends and won't try to take her territory. Briefly describe them.

>>34410502
There are levels between platonic and carnal.


That's not my intent, I meant more that the middle option is to include Isla once the relationship with Jal/Sofia reaches a certain point.

Because that's what my intent is, and I was one of the Isla votes.

>>34410522
If you don't care who comes first, then why don't we deal with Isla first, then Sofia and Jal. It shouldn't matter to you right?

>>34410546
>If you don't care who comes first
But I never said that. I do care that Sofia/Jal come first, because they have born Seiryi literal children. That makes a relationship with them a priority above any puppy crushes Isla might have, which are very adorable, true, but don't really measure up by comparison in my eyes.

I have no problem with involving Isla once our relationship with Sofia/Jal has developed to tht point.
Hell, given that they already have eachother too, unless Isla devlops feelings for them, it pairs up pretty well as I see it.

>>34410522
>I don't ask why you find this vote outcome so offensive, do I ?

Actually, it was asked, though perhaps you're not >>34410245 and didn't write

>Why ? Seriously, why this pettiness ?

As for the split hair, you're presenting my qualified statements as unqualified, probably due to skim-reading. To clarify, "never really got past platonic" and "not particularly carnal" are not the same as "never got past platonic" and "not at all carnal".

“It seems I need to talk to Harugrad” you say, rising into the air “I’ll be back once I’ve spoken to him.”

“You do that” she says “And don’t die.”

“There are two other dragons in my barony” you say, describing Ebonsong and Shahulzers appearance “They might pass through, but they are not going to try and take your territory or attack you.”

“I’ll keep an eye out for them” she says “If they don’t bother me, I won’t bother them.”

According to Nicolvren, Harugrad is a bit more aggressive than her, how will you find his lair?
You have a good idea of his territory, and might be able to find his lair just be searching.
Or you could wait nearby for another sighting and confront him
Or you could use magic to find him (optional)

>Search for lair
>Wait
>Scry
>Other

And once you’ve found it, how will you enter?

You could approach the main entrance, or you could try to locate the (probable) secondary exits.

>Go in via the main entrance
>Side-entrance
>Other (i.e. teleport etc)

And your approach?

>Announce yourself openly
>Sneak in
>Other

>>34410584
To me, it sounds like you have you're preferences, the other guy has his preferences, and you're trying to act morally superior

>>34410588
Your statement of "not carnal" was in direct response of it being past platonic.
And yes it is past platonic, even though its not carnal so your statement was either wrong or a meaningless qualifier that it would have to be carnal for the relationship to be serious.

The question after Why the pettiness, isn't at all the same as implying someone is offended. In opposite actually, it shows the other one doesn't assume you are offended, otherwise that would be the answer to that question.

>>34410535
I agree with the "levels between" comment, hence the qualifiers above.

>That's not my intent, I meant more that the middle option is to include Isla once the relationship with Jal/Sofia reaches a certain point.

Sure, but - what point? I don't think that's settled.

>>34410584
>hat makes a relationship with them a priority above any puppy crushes Isla might have, which are very adorable, true, but don't really measure up by comparison in my eyes.
Or you could describe it as recognizing the person who has always selflessly supported us appropriately, vs taking care of an accident that is already getting appropriate care.

>>34410606
>Scry, if that fails search
>Go in via the main entrance
>Announce yourself openly

>Announce yourself openly

>>34410606
>Scry
>Main Entrance
>Announce openly

Gulp.

>>34410610
I don't see how ? I just make my preference clear, and say why I have it. Morals don't figure into this discussion at all.

>>34410632
>selflessly supported us
Thats true for most of our companions. Also Isla is both being protected by us and she already had a crush on Seiryi. Thats not xactly low motives, but she doesn't support us selflessly, she does want to get kids here, as we know for a fact.

>>34410655
>I don't see how ? I just make my preference clear, and say why I have it. Morals don't figure into this discussion at all.
Then why have you been lecturing them on How They're BAD for having nested votes, or for wanting a revote. That they Deserve to loose for arguably being slightly vague, and now they have to just deal with it.

>>34410632
Feel free to do so. But Isla always had a crush on Seiryi, so its not exactly "selfless".
We don't "owe" her a romantic relationship just because she is a good friend. While having given someone children, even by accident, does carry a responisbility in my eyes, and setting wise, in the eyes of Velya.

>>34410622
I didn't imply that you were offended, I assumed as much from the terms you used. If they were merely rhetorical, I apologize unreservedly for believing that you spoke from the heart.

>>34410672
Are you smoking something ?
I think you might be reading a bit more into that than is completly healthy and rational.

>>34410655
>Thats true for most of our companions.
Most of said companions don't consistently take charge of the group to help out when we are otherwise occupied.

Please roll 1d20+13 for scrying

Rolled 1 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34410706

Rolled 18 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34410706

>>34410700
to me, this
>>34410273
>I hope thats a incentive for people to stop making vague or nested votes.
>Your actual vote should be greentexted and the commentary should be normal beneath it, to make sure it won't be confused with the vote. Its not hard to do.
Comes off as being a dick. As do several other of your "how dare you want to do X" statements during the thread.

also
>Are you smoking something ?
Does sort of make you sound like a superior twit.

>>34410738
shoot, mean to quote >>34410697

Rolled 19 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34410706
second 1 incoming!

>>34410695
Ah, I'm sorry. English, is not my first language, and I suppose, when trying to argue in writing, I may come acros a bit stilted when trying to be precise.

To make it completly clear. I am in favor of a relationship with Isla, but personally found Sofia and Jal come first, due to the children, which should grow up with a close family around them. Thats why Isla could wait, in my eyes and the others can't, I have no issue with someone seeing it different. Just with complaining about miscounts and the like to make Isla "first girl".

>>34410738
Considering we had repeadetly problems of miscounts because of misunderstood votes and nestled votes, I think thats a fair reminder.

And since I never said anything of "daring to do X" and at most asked, why do you want x, yeah, your statement was pretty random.

All this can be solved by accidentally getting Isla pregnant.

>>34410779
We may also get her pregnant on purpose, if we want.

>>34410762
>And since I never said anything of "daring to do X" and at most asked, why do you want x, yeah, your statement was pretty random.
No, you've been pretty negative towards people who wanted a revote due to vague votes. Or to people who believe Isla should be first, saying you can't possibly understand why someone would want that or care (which in English frequently amounts to calling someone an idiot, usually in a smug manner), while wanting the opposite.
So double standard, plus insulting your debate opponent.

>Success

Harugrads protections against scrying are more advanced than those of Nicolvren, and it takes you almost half an hour to gently pry them apart and see within his lair.

He is asleep on a larger hoard, and is sleeping deeply, there’s blood on his jaws and what looks like the remains of several cows nearby. He’s pretty big, bigger than Shahulzer, maybe 30ft in length.

Expanding your spell to view his lair you see that it’s larger and more complex than Nicolvrens, there’s side passages, what look like false hoards, side chambers and a number of traps.

He also has a main entrance that opens upwards, but his is a long twisted, tapered passageway that (for a dragon) seems quite tight at the end that his lair is at: another dragon entering his lair would be almost helpless against an attack.

The other end of the passage, opening to the sky, is large and would be easy for a dragon to move in.

You keep your approach as before: walking up to the entrance and announcing yourself loudly and waiting.

You have to keep shouting for almost an hour before a sleepy-looking red dragons head and neck pops into view.

“Who are you? What do you want?”

“I am Baroness Sireyi Valyenya” you say “Paladin of Velya, and I would like to speak to you, please.”

“Go away” he says grumpily “I’ve just had a lovely meal, and I’m tired.”

“I want to talk to you about the villages you’ve been raiding and-whoa!”

You jump back and take flight as he responds to your words with a blast of flame, singing you slightly.

(HP 54/58)

Lucky you move so fast otherwise you’d have caught the full brunt of that, rather than just the edges of it.

“Go away” he repeats, adding “Otherwise I’ll make you dessert.”

>Keep trying to talk
>Well, you asked for it (fight)
>Leave
>Other (what?)

>>34410806
>>Well, you asked for it (fight)

>>34410762
Well, I agree with you about the past votes, there's no point in going back over it once the QM is committed and I will gladly concede to you the substance of your vote. Sireyi's priorities should be:

#1: Her children
#2: Romance

But how much #2 needs to give up to #1 is still in play. (After all, as I'm sure you'll agree, it's not entirely clear that Isla will wait.)

>>34410806
>Well, you asked for it (fight)

>>34410806
>Well, you asked for it (fight)
>Whack him on the nose.

>>34410806
Would showing him our dragon form do anything?

>>34410806
>Other-ish

Stand outside of the line of fire and ask when we should come back.

>>34410806
>>Well, you asked for it (fight)
Doesn't means we can't talk while fighting.

>>34410806
>Well, you asked for it (fight)

>>34409625

What. You actually took the suggestions of the samefag that appeared after everyone else left.

Oh well. I guess it doesn't run contrary to mc's character.

>>34410860
Go away Velya, we paladin of Konig now.

>>34410806
Changing >>34410836 to this

>>34410779
>>34410786
Pregnancy occurring accidentally on purpose is a time-honoured tradition.

>>34410832
>it's not entirely clear that Isla will wait
If she tries to initiate dating on her own, sure why not. She has become more confident in the past, and if Sofia/Jal have no problem with it, and I still don't see a reason why they would, there is no reason to refuse her.
Hell, she actually has already taken the initiative, she made it pretty clear she wants to have Seiryis beautiful children too.
I don't think 1 and 2 are exclusive though, just reversed in the parings. With Sofia/Jal we got 1 first and now do 2. With Isla it will be the other way around.

I don't exactly expect Seiryi to marry Jal/Sofia in order to find another partner okay. It can happen long before then.
Its normal that a relationship in its early stages requires more time to grow than later, so once our relationship witht he two has advanced, there is defintily a lot of Seiryi for Isla around. Especially since they still have eachother to spend time with.

Seems this dragon needs to be taught a lesson. How will you deal with him?
>Halberd
>Lightning Bolt
>Spell (what?)
>Power (what?)
>Other

Foe
Harugrad (Adult Red Dragon, not wounded)

>>34410840
Depends on how he feels about other dragons

>>34410901
>Stoneskin spell

>>34410806
>Detect Evil
>Redeeming Touch
>??????
>Kek all the way to battle against the Orcish Horde With Dragon Air Cavalry

>>34410901
>Redeeming touch

>>34410901
>Lightning Bolt

>>34410913
>>34410917
Him being kind of a dick doesn't make him evil. We don't even know if there is anything to be redeemed.

>>34410901
>Stoneskin

>>34410898
Actually, I meant that Isla might move on. People sometimes do that.

>>34410928
That's what detect evil is for.

>>34410936
Sure, its possible. But I highly doubt that.

>>34410938
How about first making sure we have the time to detect put up a Sanctuary to make the touch more effective, and then give him the holy pimp slap ?

>>34410928
He isn't even being that much of a dick. Nicolvren is a bit of a trouble-maker and most beings are a bit grouchy when awoken from a pleasant slumber by a complete stranger.

Stoneskin/Redeeming Touch tie at the moment, couple more minutes to vote then I roll a die to break any tie.

>>34410901
>redeeming touch

>>34410936
I see no reason why we can't tell Isla that she has a chance with us, just that we are putting our children first atm. I'm pretty sure she will understand, and dating Sofia/Jal won't take literally all of our time, we can spend platonic time with her before then too.

>>34410901
>Stoneskin

>>34410901

Do we know in-character of any specific resistances or fighting preferences red dragons have?

Barring that, feed him some lightning.

>>34410901
>Stoneskin
You have to weaken powerful being before you use RT, IIRC.

>>34410901
>Stoneskin

>>34410928
Well that's why I'm saying detect evil, though. Even if the red is evil, he is clearly chaos aligned, and redeeming touch forces you to relive all your asshole moments in a bout of pure Epiphany. Can't hurt.

Well, okay he could roast us if we fuck a roll.

>>34410960
makes sense, so pop Sanctury, then detect evil and if evil Redeeming touch and if not ask when it'd be a better time to talk. or hell we could just talk to him in his dreams if we want.

>>34410901
>Stoneskin

>>34411004
We can use Cold Breath on him.

Stoneskin it is, writing

Also, roll 1d20+3 to see what you remember from paladin school about fighting red dragons as per

>>34411004

Rolled 15 + 3 (1d20 + 3)

>>34411031

>>34411031

Rolled 1 + 3 (1d20 + 3)

>>34411031

Rolled 8 + 3 (1d20 + 3)

>>34411031

Daily reminder to invest in eastern hemisphere. Er, intelligence scores.

Rolled 19 + 3 (1d20 + 3)

>>34411031
Here goes nothing

>>34410992
Well, I'll admit that Sireyi is significantly more charming than I am, but I can't imagine ever pulling that line off myself.

"Yeah girl, you still gotta a chance at a thi- well, a share of all this! I just gotta take care of my kids by getting into their moms' pants, you know? But I can totally catch you for coffee some time. Call me!"

Rolled 7 + 3 (1d20 + 3)

>>34411031

>>34411046
I keep forgetting to put +2 Int into the XP sheet.
Maybe I need to increase my own Intelligence score.

Rolled 19 + 3 (1d20 + 3)

>>34411031

>>34411031
You get my first ever roll for a quest. I'm sure I'll enter it wrong again.

>>34411048
>by getting into their moms' pants
Wait a moment. No no.
One way or the other, we aren't getting into anyones pants before we went to Hell. We absolutely need or Virgin bonuses down there.


Besides that. I am not firm on Sofia/Jal ahving to be our first time, I don't think thats a qualifier for how close that relationship is.
I want a close relationship, which doesn't need to be sex. Hell, when I made my vote, I even said that this is largely to figure out if Seiryi is more than a conquest to those two.

Ad besides all that. come on, Seiryi could totally pull that of.

>>34411074
Put 'dice+1d20+3' without quotations into the E-mail field.

>>34411087

it's called 'options' field now

Casting your spell you feel its protective energies wrap around you as you remain in flight, ready to dodge any assault.

“Really?” he says, hauling himself fully out of the tunnel, “well, if you insist” and then launches himself into the air.

A billow of flame emerges from his mouth and burns through the air you occupied a moment before, close, but it didn’t get you.

Next action?

>Halberd
>Lightning Bolt
>Spell (what?)
>Power (what?)
>Other

Foe
Harugrad (Adult Red Dragon, not wounded)

What do you recall from your days learning about red dragons with the paladins of Konig?

Fire breath (obviously)
Immunity to fire
One of the largest dragon types
Smart
Skilled sorcerers
Prefer to fight in the air
Proud
Unlikely to retreat or surrender, unless facing overwhelming odds/almost dead

>>34411101
I guess I need to update 4chanX, then.
It's still E-mail for me.

>>34411106
>Lightning Bolt
Weaken him first, then Redeeming Touch.
Powerful beings can resist it otherwise.

>>34411106
>Power (what?)
>Dimensional Anchor

Then we can force cage him

>>34411106
>escape artist up his ass

Rolled 14 + 3 (1d20 + 3)

>>34411087
>>34411031
Ah okay. I forgot to to preface 1d20+3 with the "dice+". Sanks boss.

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>>34411106

Well, that's going to be interesting.

Zap him.

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>>34411106
Dragonslayer Sireyi is about to become a fact

>>34411106
Can we force cage an adult red of his size, or otherwise hobble him?

Alternatively we can just drop a lightning bolt on him with all the finesse of Thor's hammer.

>>34411106
>Lightning Bolt

And make it clear that we're insisting that he treat us as an equal.

>>34411106
>Lightning Bolt

You guys did read the part about how he will probably not surrender ?
We might kill him with our lightning bolts.

Lightning Bolt it is, roll 1d20+13 and vote on extra Divine Energy used, average of 3 votes used.

>>34411162
A standard one? no. But you can use extra Arcane Energy to boost the size.

sheesh all this waifufaggotry let's just find a man and get it done with

Rolled 8 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411195

Rolled 8 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411195
5
We want to hurt, not kill.

Rolled 1 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411195

>DE extra + 3

>>34411189
We're committed to a show of force to demand that he take us seriously. If we give him that out - not submitting, but just assenting that Sireyi is no pushover, then this doesn't have to be a fight to the death.

How'd I know I was gonna roll a 1.

>>34411196
A women falling in love with a man? But that's forbidden love!

>>34411211
>then this doesn't have to be a fight to the death
Lets hope he sees it that way too.

On a unrelated note. Can we spend the next year, update trying to hook up Shahulzer with the silver dragon ? He needs a lair at some point, and a girlfirend might be good ofr him to be not so alone.

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>>34411226
Welcome to /tg/ dices

Also can we get it worked in to the fight that Sireyi jumps on top of his head, leans down in front of his eye and just fucking screams (magically assisted maybe for max pain) "EXCUSE ME SIR, BUT DO YOU HAVE A MOMENT TO SPARE FOR OUR LORD AND SAVIOR VELYA?" and then hand him a pamphlet.

>>34411206
>>34411208
>>34411209

Someone's getting grounded, and it's not the red guy.

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>>34411271

>>34411271
I love you.

You gather the energies of the storm within yourself and send a powerful blast of lightning at him, even as he breathes another cone of fire at you. You both strike each other full on.

The heat is intense, and painful. When the firestorm around you fades, you can see your skin reddened and burned, flakes of charged flesh falling away even as you heal, that hurt, a lot.

(HP 34/58)

You also see Harugrad, snarling in pain, one shoulder a charred and burned mess, his left forelimb hanging limp rather than curled up beneath him like the other.

“Oh” he snarls “You will pay for that, indeed you shall.”

“At least you’re taking me seriously now” you shoot back.

He circles, trying to gain height, though to what purpose you don’t know.

His flight speed is maybe half yours, if he pushed himself, and you’re far more agile, he can’t escape you.

Next action?

>Halberd
>Lightning Bolt
>Spell (what?)
>Power (what?)
>Other

Foe
Harugrad (Adult Red Dragon, wounded)

>>34411327
>Halberd
Right in the wing joint

>>34411327

>note to self: weave protection from elements into our future power armor

Stormwind. Slam him into a cliff face.

>>34411327
>Blinding breath

>>34411327
>>34411352
> Stormwind
>Ride the lightning and uppercut him in the face

>>34411327
>Gust of Wind, slam him to the ground again

>>34411327
>Gust of Wind

>>34411327
>Halberd

>>34411327
Actually no fuck it. I vote we do>>34411271
except instead of a pamphlet, we hand him a smite-fist. I don't care if it's stupid, because it awesome.

>>34411327
I'm seconding this >>34411271

>>34411379
It's funny, not awesome, there's a difference.
Fucking around with a guy that just took off 20 HP in a single attack is not a good idea.

>>34411327
>Aspect of the dragon
>Use Breath weapon alteration to cold and use breath attack

>>34411327
>Gust of Wind

>>34411401
Actually, do we need to use Apect, before we can use our breath weapon ?
It doesn't specifiy like it does with Shining Scales.

>>34411394
That's fair.

We'll still smite the guy, I don't see why it'd fuck us so long as the rolls go well, it may just end up as another roll. One for catching him, or an agi check, and one for smite.

I mean, the modus opperandi is to beat him up enough to not have to kill him, which is dangerous either way, I just wanna add some spice.

Gust of Wind to ground him it is, roll 1d20+13 and vote on extra Divine Energy used.

Almost forgot, DE is currently 29/35.

>>34411413
You don't need to, but Aspect makes it stronger.

Rolled 1 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411435
10 or 15 top

Rolled 16 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411435

>>34411422
Our fists are a lot weaker than our Halberd and have a significantly lower roll bonus, and dragons are even more dangerous at close range due to having so many natural weapons.

>>34411435
7

Rolled 9 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411435
second 1 incoming!

Rolled 17 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411435
7

>>34411458
I'll never get that second 1.

>>34411473
No, never.
It is somewhat disconcerting how most of the rolls thus far have had at least one natural one, however.

>>34411473
You rack disiprine, you must wish for 20 with arr you being then dice gods give 1

>>34411488
But wouldn't the dice gods see that as reverse psychology, Super master sensei?

Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>34411523
Lets test that out!

Harugrad flees higher, you see him making passes in the air with his one good forelimb and there is a burst of what looks like lightning surrounding him briefly, then it’s gone.

Well, no matter, he’s coming down now.

You draw upon your storm elemental heritage and a powerful column of wind centred on Harugrad blows straight down, forcing him to the ground. He flaps desperately, trying to stay in the air, but still he falls.

(DE 18/35)

He hits hard, rolling across the rockface before stopping. He’s down, but he’s not out.

He scrambles to his feet and roars up at you. His wings look damaged, but not so bad he can’t fly, were it not for your powers.

You keep the wind on him, making sure he stays on the ground.

Next action?

>Halberd
>Lightning Bolt
>Spell (what?)
>Power (what?)
>Talk (saying what?)
>Other

Foe
Harugrad (Adult Red Dragon, wounded)

>>34411538
>Halberd

>>34411538
>Halberd

>>34411538
>Lightning Bolt
>>Talk (saying what?)
Now are you ready to talk?

>>34411538
>Talk (saying what?)
>blinding breath

>>34411538
>Halberd+Smite

>>34411538
>Lightning Bolt (Restrained)
Don't kill him, aim for his bad wing.

>>34411589

I don't think he's wounded enough that a single lightning bolt would be in any risk of killing him.

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Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>34411523
You no understand, Gods do it for the rurs.

>>34411538

>>34411571
Miscopied.
Was supposed to be
>Talk
>We don't need to be enemies, I have no designs on your hoard, but if you fight me, I will make you regret it.


Lets not go into melee range, with the giant creature with massive claws and fangs m'kay ?

>>34411561
>>34411563
>>34411584
I don't understand the point of using a physical attack, really.
We've taken away his ability to close the distance, and you want to immediately invalidate that?

>>34411605
Our damage range on a single lightning bolt is pretty insane.
81 max without boosting.

>>34411538
>Talk (saying what?)
>Offer to talk about the silver dragon encroaching on his territory.
>If he doesn't talk, Lightning Bolt.

>>34411618
>81 max without boosting.
Shit, really ?

>>34411538
>>34411623
Changing to
>blinding breath

>>34411606
I do not understand, Mega awesome teacher dude.

>>34411538

Are you ready to talk now, big guy?

What I don't understand is, why waste our DE we need for healing on lightning bolt. Instead of using our cold breath weapon ?

>>34411538
Changing >>34411589 to Blinding breath.
Because I don't want to split the vote and make the terrible mistake of closing the distance.

>>34411662
Because our Cold Breath Weapons damage isn't known.
Lightning Bolt is crazy powerful.

>>34411664
But cold breath is super effective on reds. Plus its more for the slowing value than damage.

>>34411664
>Lightning Bolt is crazy powerful.
That seems like the problem to me.

>>34411538
>blinding breath

Blinding Breath, ok, Roll 1d20+13 and vote on extra arcane energy used.

Extra AE increases chance + duration of blindness

Rolled 11 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411687
We can restrict it's power, easily.

>>34411686
It doesn't mention anything about slowing, and *2 damage wouldn't matter if Lightning Bolt is three times as powerful by default.

>>34411696
10 AE

Rolled 14 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411696
> 10 extra AE

Rolled 20 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411696
10

Rolled 11 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411696
15

>>34411701
If your shooting out a fire breath you expect things to go on fire. Same logic here. Cold breath should at least be able to freeze water thus forming frost on the dragon's wings and lower its body temperature.

Rolled 9 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34411696

With Harugrad grounded, you decide to end this, you swoop down and breathe a gout of acid over him, and the same time you quick-cast a spell, trying to take his sight from him.

As you swoop in close he breathes another gout of fire at you.

You easily dodge the cone of fire his sends your way and hit him square in the face with your attack.

(AE 34/48)

He roars in pain, thrashing his head back and forth, scrabbling at his face with his one good forelimb, ignoring you for several minutes, allowing you to get your breath back.

(HP 38/58)

Once he finally stops thrashing his starts sniffing the air, trying to locate you, he gives another blast of fire in your direction, but it misses by a dozen feet.

Seems he can’t see, and with all the wind around, can’t locate you perfectly with his sense of smell either.

“I’m going to find” you he threatens, turning in circles “I’m going to kill everyone you ever loved!”

Next action?

>Halberd
>Lightning Bolt
>Spell (what?)
>Power (what?)
>Talk (saying what?)
>Other

Foe
Harugrad (Adult Red Dragon, wounded, blinded)

>>34411732
That's an assumption, and therefore invalid.

He isn't even weak to cold.

>>34411796
>Lightning Bolt (Restrained, aim for the wing)

>>34411796
>Detect Evil
>Sanctuary
Time for the holy pimp slap.

>>34411796
>Detect Evil
>If we detect, Sanctuary, if not Talk to him.

>>34411796
Holy pimp slap is a go!

>>34411796
>Talk (saying what?)
"Are you prepared to listen to me now?"

>>34411796
>Talk
>(With Angel Voice>Respect/Awe) Do you have enough yet ? This isn't even my final form!

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>>34411897
>This isn't even my final form!

>Detect evil

You can feel a strong and definite sense of evil from him.

By Sanctuary, do you mean Sanctify (Boosts Redeeming Touch)?

Sanctuary creates an area of protection around you.

It appears that Redeeming Touch + *Sanctuary* is currently winning

>>34411897
I feel like we should save that for when we get Seraphic Dragon.

>>34411817
I thought QM was using dragons based on the draconomicon? A red dragon has a fire subtype thus has a weakness to the opposing element.

>>34411935
Since Sanctuary is a full action, I'd assume they mean Sanctify.

>>34411935
I >>34411850
meant sanctify, yes, sry.

>>34411935

>Sanctify + Redeeming Touch

>>34411796

I think he needs some more tenderizing with lightning bolt before he becomes approachable, but if you guys want to try to teach him error of his ways, I guess that's fine too.

>>34411948
This universe has departed from standard high fantasy lore enough times that we shouldn't make assumptions about any of the creatures we encounter.

>>34411982
He still gets continued damage from the acid breath.

>>34411935
>Sanctify + Redeeming Touch

Ok that clears that up, please roll 1d20+13, and vote on extra Divine Energy AND Arcane Energy used.

Sanctify + Redeeming Touch

Example
*Roll*
1 DE
1 AE

Rolled 15 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34412006
12
24

Rolled 1 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34412006
15DE
20AE

Rolled 20 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34412006
1 DE
1 AE

Rolled 7 + 13 (1d20 + 13)

>>34412006

>15
>18

>>34411985
Yet his still using chromatic dragons with the same breath, same alignment/nature. An assumption of cold is effective against fire is relatively safe. Especially when lightning strikes still cauterize wounds, a cold breath should technically cause frost.

>>34412030
Again, these are all assumptions.

Chromatic/Metallic dragons are present in dozens of settings which almost everyone is familiar with, it doesn't mean that he didn't change anything about them.

I like to alter well-known monster's abilities/statistics/appearances to subvert expectations sometimes, we don't know that OP isn't doing something similar.

It also didn't mention cold weakness in what we know about red dragons, which is normally one of the most well-known things about them.
If it wasn't there, they might not have that weakness at all.

>>34412021
Okay this is just getting creepy now.

>>34412079
Not as creepy as the time all four dice were some variation of '13'.

>>34412076
Yet a cold breath would still slow down the dragon through lower temps and frost. This is my main point not the weakness. Even without a weakness the additional effects would still be in effect just like our blinding breath.

>>34412111
If the additional effects are actually there.

They might not be, or the dragon might have a high enough body temperature due to whatever reaction allows it to breath fire that the frost melts and the temperature lowering is negligible.

In the same way cold can beat fire, fire can easily beat cold, and we don't know which way it goes in this setting.

>>34412137
The effects of the breath scale to the amount of AE used and if aspect is up. This is in the pastebin. So the effects should at least show up and effect the battle, just like our blind breath in which we used 10AE. A greater amount would definitely show an effect.

>>34412137

Well, if Sireyi doesn't remember this trivia from her lessons, the only way to find out is to try.

You swoop down and touch him on the shoulder, pouring divine and arcane energy into him, showing him all the harm he’s caused over his long life, the deaths, the suffering, the mayhem, making him understand the consequences his actions have had on others.

(DE 5/15, AE 18/48)

He twists and thrashes, unwilling to accept what he’s seeing, and then goes still.

“Did...did...was that me?” he asks quietly.

You wait, wondering if it has worked.

“No, NO!” he bellows, swiping at you with his one good claw, trying to grab you, you fly back out of his reach.

“I am Harugard, I am the Burning Terror, I will destroy you, how dare you do that to me, how dare you make me like those puny crawling creatures called man. I will BURN YOU!!!”

Seems that didn’t work.

He’s blinded and grounded, you could kill him, or leave him and come back another day, but in his current frame of mind, he won’t talk to you, other than to threaten.

>Kill him
>Spell (what?)
>Power (what?)
>Leave
>Other

2 more DE or AE and that would have worked (final result 49 vs DC 50)

>>34412198
kill

>>34412198
>Leave
>Return when we recover and RT him again

>>34412198
>Leave
and come back another day

>>34412198
>Leave
>But stay close by, in case he tries to vent his rage against the population.

>>34412198
>>Leave
Damage his wings so he wont be able to fly until we return.

>>34412171
So what you're saying is you want to overcharge an attack that might have lessened effectiveness relative to the amount of AE invested for no valid reason whatsoever.

It also might just affect the damage and area, you know, the same as our acid breath attack from which you're drawing the information.

There's still absolutely nothing indicating that it would have a bonus effect aside from the modification of the element.

Actually, the fact that we get three possible elements with that spell while every other bonus effect takes it's own spell would indicate to me that we don't get bonus effects from modification of the element.

>>34412175
If there's one thing I'd remember about a dragon, it'd be the weaknesses.
We rolled too well to forget something so basic, so it's fairly likely it didn't exist in the first place.

>>34412198
I blame >>34412022 for bringing down the average DE/AE used.
Would it be possible to try again another day?

>>34412198
>Kill him

I dunno, we beat the shit out of him and humiliated him. Leaving him alone may invite retaliation on the various inhabitants of the countryside or the silver dragon if he is left to his own devices.

>>34412268
We should stay close by, 8 hours are enough rest to try again, and he probably won't be in any state to attack anyone by then. And if he tries, we can smack him down.

>>34412268
Okay then how about stay near by untill we recover then RT him.

>>34412198

Well, we *could* try again, burning rest of our AE and significant portion of our HP, but then we'd be at his mercy.

I'll second >>34412256 and return first thing tomorrow.

>>34412198
>Leave
>Stay close by to intercept him if he tries to attack in the meantime
>Go back as early as we have recovered our DE/AE
We can practically guarantee redemption with enough expenditure.

Leave by say close enough by to keep watch it is, guess you'll be spending a night sleeping rough.

>>34412378

Don't forget to set up Alarum.

>>34412378
We got the alarm spell

>>34412391

Also can we get Matthias (And Jianxi) take some soldiers and do something about those bandits so we don't have to do everything in person?
Or they could at least sniff out their main base of operations so we don't have to spend time >investigating.

Just try to knock him unconcious and come back later.

You fly away some distance and settle down to watch him, you’ll wait until your powers recover and then try again, you almost had him, you could feel it.

It’s currently mid-afternoon.

With your wind dissipated, and unable to smell you, Harugard bellows a few more threats, and then crawls back into his lair.

You cast a spell to warn you of anyone approaching, and settle down to wait. Dozing off in the warm sunlight.

You’re awakened by a loud roar, you jump up to see Harugard launching himself from his lair mouth into the sky.

It’s currently evening, and it hasn’t been very long, you’re fully healed, but your powers haven’t recovered much.

(DE 15/35, AE 27/48)

You watch him head through the skies in the direction of your lands, with a curse, you give chase.

What do you do?

>Follow and watch
>Attack (how?)
>Yell, get his attention
>Other

>>34412472

>Yell
>Looking for someone, big guy?

>>34412472
>Yell, get his attention
>Running away, I thought you had more pride than that!

>>34412472
>Sanctify and Redeeming touch
Lets just burn a bunch of hp

>>34412518

I wouldn't do that, Dave.

At least not unless he's crippled to the point where we are able to recover our strength safely.

>>34412472
We wll need to sacrifice at least 15 HP to guarantee redemption.

>Sneak attack Sanctify + Redeeming touch