>>34632013
Hey Dranzy. What silly shenanigans will we get up to tonight?
Will we daughteru heal-bot?

>>34632013


The old woman's smile had an energy, a vibrant glow that undermined how she had once appeared. The deep set leather wrinkles and ancient stare have been replaced with bright eyes full of vigor and beauty.
Echo had been hushed by Marcus while only you and he knew what transpired out in that wood.

Marcus stayed behind for the moment passing off the renewed woman to Saph's custody. The affair was done without drawing attention to the murder. He'd come after he relocated the door again.

Gertrude offered you a wink and Emilia put herself between the two of you. Though ignorant of what went on there was a certain murderous karma on the air, a tip to the sensitive that there's malice hanging about.

Saphira takes the woman off alone to speak with her and you're almost inclined to warn her against being alone with the woman. This danger, that merry predation haunting her feature. Echo stays away from her, Fox watching from the astral.

Regarding Gertrude in the Astral, you see a black blot in this plane of existence centralizing on one thing: A red hourglass with bloody sands ever so slowly trickling. As you stare, many eyes open up to stare back at you, snapping you back to reality.
Is it just you or does it seem that people know when they're being looked at in the astral?

Henry comes limping back with the little Hydra supporting him, taking him to an apartment assigned to her for further operation.


Eventually you arrive back at your apartment and Emilia's with you again as the two of you sit in an empty living quarter. She sits close to the door, ready to leave or ready to fight.
Leaning against the wall, she looks at you languidly, “So. Your... thing was out there. What happened?”

You tell her Donneth's report. What he was doing. How Gertrude got injured and he turned away. Roseanne's gone and Gertrude's younger.

>>34632119
Ask.fm suggests shades are on the menu. A shade of Asher summoned by Asher, to be precise.

>>34632119
As much as I don't see it happening. That'd be an interesting turn of events by Asher.

>>34632126


“Are you scared? Saph put the rule back on that we couldn’t hurt each other...”

“I'm more worried that they're going to let a freak like that walk around scott free. Roseanne relied on her, saw her as a friend.”

The two of you are quiet after that and you begin to wonder what's happening with Saphira. If Gertrude somehow gets Saphira... Or if she destroys the door on this side... You'd all be trapped with a killer bone. What's worse, you and Emilia are the most experienced people here. Could you honestly defend yourselves if she went truly berserk?

>[] Use divination to watch what's goin on with Saphira and Gertrude.
>[] Practice magic to try taking your mind off of things. There's something you've been wanting to try...
>[]Go check on Hydra and Henry.
>[] See what Echo's doing, she learned something during that trip, right?
>[] (Other)

>>34632177
>[] Use divination to watch what's goin on with Saphira and Gertrude.

>>34632119
>>34632150
Yeah, seriously
>implying Asher is not-shit enough to daughteru anyone

>>34632150
Ok cool.

Also
>Donneth's report
Name changed with class?

>>34632177
>>[] Use divination to watch what's goin on with Saphira and Gertrude.

>>34632177
>[x] Practice magic to try taking your mind off of things. There's something you've been wanting to try..
Programmable Wisps.
Fire halo.
Lava generation through either Geo+Pyro or Alchemy.
Ice board (chair)
Shade of a living person
Using a focus, likely a wand (yes, Dran said it would work and it would boost out magic)

Pick one. Any one of them would be damn good to get.

>>34632177
>[] Practice magic to try taking your mind off of things. There's something you've been wanting to try..
Shade time
Don't forget Saphira can sense when we divine her.

>>34632150
>[] Use divination to watch what's goin on with Saphira and Gertrude.
Whelp missed that last bit last thread

>>34632242
>Fire halo.
This sure to fuck us up the next time the clones come.
>>34632177
[] Practice magic to try taking your mind off of things. There's something you've been wanting to try...
Shade and Iceboard
Saphira was able to tell that we were watching her the last time we used divination.
I'm sure she doesn't want that

>>34632126
>hourglass
Shes not eating her soul all at once, shes using a soul drip to get around how big souls are

>>34632285
let he know we have an eye on her.

>>34632242
>Programmable Wisps.
Dran seems to not know how to handle that. He's been ignoring every suggestion of it.
>Fire halo.
We already have that from jail time practice / Luci shenanigans. Dran just refuses to put it on the char sheet.
>Lava generation through either Geo+Pyro or Alchemy.
Sounds cool, but not a high priority
>Ice board (chair)
Ok. Dran has a boner for it, so it will probably work
>Shade of a living person
Want. Want much want.
>Using a focus, likely a wand (yes, Dran said it would work and it would boost out magic)
Meh. We need to get a good focus before we even bother.

One thing you forgot is to test the range at which our summons can operate. We need to do that and we can test it simultaneously with other magic. Just send the ravens off.

>>34632285
>This sure to fuck us up the next time the clones come.
It can turn on or off and it's not a problem if we don't turn it on while in a closed space with the methane-leaking ones.

>>34632119
>Will we daughteru heal-bot?
If by daughteru you mean prepare as sacrifice to heal our eye than I can get behind it

>>34632177
Divination a shit. A useless shit. Voting for divination is a wasted vote. It will give us no meaningful info.

>>34632338
>One thing you forgot is to test the range at which our summons can operate. We need to do that and we can test it simultaneously with other magic. Just send the ravens off.
This. See how far away they can get before they stop working.

>>34632242
>Programmable Wisps.
explain

>>34632644
Basically, they're thoughtforms with air bodies. Kinda like golems made out of aerokinesis but programmed by summoning the same way Knight is a fire golem thoughtform thing. Anyway, the Wisps would be Asher's Fiend spell in remote control form so that he could hit things without needing line of sight. He summons a few Wisps, they home in on an astral signature, and then they self compress and detonate.

>>34632722
To be honest that sounds extremly ineffecient.

>>34632744
You can pre charge summons.

>>34632757
That would still be a one use thoughtform summon for one fiend.
I like the idea of charging certain items with spells more.
On ask.fm there was the example of gems

>>34632789
Just breaking the physical body doesn't kill a summon.

>>34632644
Probably as homing/tracker missile/bullets that might chain into a fiend or hound.
Shit we could use it with illusion and photo-mancy we could make holograms to send messages or as another mirage mirror in low humidity conditions.

>>34632789
>On ask.fm there was the example of gems
That was a Vein thing. She was putting hunks of her soul into the gems.

>>34632823
>Shit we could use it with illusion and photo-mancy we could make holograms to send messages or as another mirage mirror in low humidity conditions.

That's pretty dope.

>>34632848
>>It's basically the power of existence, truth, and lies.|||| So is it more like having gems with already defined "spells" in it? That should make it possible for us to reduce the direct burn in fights by streching it out over "peacefull" periods
Yes. Like a gem that's infused with Fiend for example.

You know what's better than these Wisp things?

Using Alchemy to make clouds of poisonous gas or acid or something and then turn that into an air golem thoughtform thing and just have it try to sit on the target's face.

Oh, you're a Bone and you ate all the magic out of my golem? Well good for you. Now the area is saturated with highly toxic gas. Hope you stacked obscure poison resistances instead of bullet/fire/other more common stuff resistance.

>>34632852
>Dranzy likes it!
Now just add Areo for whistles and we have Magic R2-D2.

>>34632894
Wouldn't acidic gas be much more effective?
Or rather that would depend on what toxin/acid we create

>>34632980
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride

Fun.

>>34632980
>>34632894
We realy are going for applied magical science.
In my opinion we should do some occult things to.
We still need sacrifices to heal our eye, I vote for Hydra as sacrifice

>>34633030
I think we got our own bonekiller

>>34633043
A sacrifice doesn't mean it needs to be a life. Sacrifices can also be inorganic things.

>>34633043
>need
No we don't. It just makes it easier.

And Hydra is more valuable as a lab monkey for when we start doing human experiments with Alchemy.

There's no way in hell Asher's testing out his magic body mods on himself first, and the less subjects end up dead the less subjects we need to acquire.

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>>34633030
>one of the most dangerous chemicals there is
>colorless
>can ignite asbestos
>fire created almost impossible to extinguish
>It reacts with water very violently to make hydrofluoric acid and hydrochloric acid.
Let's see Belila regen after getting covered in that shit.

>>34633190
Gas the Bones!
Magic war now!

>>34632177


You stare ahead at a blank television screen for a while, back against the apartment's painted white drywall. It brings to mind that you could see what's going on with Saphira and Gertrude. Might even put the blue woman's heart at ease to know that you have that kind of concern for her.
It's a matter of caution. If Gertrude turns for whatever reason and manages to take Saph out, well...

You and Emilia had best start running.

Flames lick off of your hands and coalesce into something of a window, a gateway. You focus intensely on Saphira, Emilia paying a bit of mind as to what you're doing.

“Watching” is all you say in return. She scoots over to you and the two of you look through the flame together...

Saphira sits across from the young Gertrude whom carries a wispy smile. They're having a little bit of tea to go along with the conversation. The view outside the window suggests that they're on the upper levels of the apartment.

“- I'm not judging you on why you did it. You were scared and saw her as a way to live. However I mean to tell you that we will need to forbid you from doing this to your own comrades in the future.”

“You are very agreeable considering...” Gertrude laughs, that energy still giving her euphoria quite plain as day. She dips a biscuit into her cup. “So, is this suggesting that I keep to notable targets? Because you haven't told me not to.”

Saphira lowers her head, fingers laced in thought, “This isn't the first time I've seen something like this. And at the very least you haven't fallen into madness, yet.” She shakes her head, casting off a deviation of topic. “This I so. Considering your circumstances based on your true age and use to our ranks I will permit this, and likely Marcus will permit this so long as you are under him.”

Gertrude shrugs, relaxing into her chair, crossing one leg over the other. “Well, I can abide by these terms then. Might I ask where it was that you saw this before?”

>>34633252


There's a sudden stone cold silence, Saphira looks up, her eyes flicking over to your observation for just a moment, “I rather not say, it's been a while. Just stay in control and we will have no problems, understood?”

Gertrude salutes with a sarcastic grin, “You're the boss.”

You end the scrying. Well, so long as she can't go after you. Emilia wiggles away, sighing heavily.
“That's unnerving, wonder what really happened anyway?”

You shrug, it's not really your concern anyway unless it's a threat to you. Better just leave it at that. “Keep an eye on her, and don't let her catch you alone, okay?”

Emilia nods, “Okay.” She smiles a little bit.

“What?” You raise a brow.

“Nothing.” She gets up and walks out of the room, “I'm going to go check on Hydra and that Henry guy.”

“I'll probably be here.”

You watch her as she leaves, switching over to astral perception to look at her.

The mustard-yellow of her aura is... Well it's more like an earth color now. Golden brown and dark yellow. It radiates down through her feet rooting her briefly with every step. Seems like something's going on with her again...

Let to your own devices, you decide to practice a few new ideas, heading up to the roof. Better than an apartment lighting up. A breath of fresh autumn air, a slight chill brushing against your cheek.
In the distance you see the lights of downtow Chicago and even have a stellar view of the ferris wheel at Navy Pier. Maybe you could go there sometime?

You take a walk around. No one should really be able to see what you're doing from street level and most people are asleep around this time.

>[] Summon a shade of yourself.(Experimentation)
>[] Try making an Iceboard(Movement cantrip.)
>[] Wisp Fiend Program... (Might be a bit too loud)
>[] (Other) Mind the neighborhood.

>>34633030
I support this 100%

>>34633281
>[] Summon a shade of yourself.(Experimentation)
There is no way that could go wrong

>>34633281
>[] Summon a shade of yourself.(Experimentation)

I want Wisps, but Ashershade can just cast Fiend himself. Fuck line of sight.

>>34633281
>>[] Summon a shade of yourself.(Experimentation)
This will probably turn out horrible.

>>34633281
>[] Summon a shade of yourself.(Experimentation)
But do that in our own room

>>34633281
>[] Summon a shade of yourself.(Experimentation)
>[] Try making an Iceboard(Movement cantrip.)
Both if possible. If not, just Ashershade

>>34633281
>[] Summon a shade of yourself.(Experimentation)
We realy need some plan to get rid of Gertrude.
Or just point her at our enemies

>>34633281
>[] (Other) Mind the neighborhood.
Determine the maximum distance at which the ravens are capable of sending us info and we are capable of giving them commands. We NEED to get concrete operation parameters on our summons, and the ravens represent a bare minimum as rank 1 uncontracted thoughtforms.

>>34633337
>>34633353
Or it will turn out amazing.

Oh, and don't forget that Asher shade is going to need a specialized contract.

>No self modification without permission
>>No attempting to acquire permission for self modifications which would alter your nature to the extent that the contract no longer applies
>No summoning other beings without permission
>No betraying information to outside sources

>>34633251
>>34633190
>>34633030
That shit ain't nothing. Want to watch cement and cinder blocks burn?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dioxygen_difluoride
http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2010/02/23/things_i_wont_work_with_dioxygen_difluoride.php

>>34633458
But what would the shade of ourself want?
Also that contract has to be as precise as Nora's was

>>34633514
>they try and set it on fire
>oh god my everything is melting

>>34633514
That stuff decays stupid fast.

>>34633575
4% a day isn't that much, and I don't think we are keeping it around

>>34633575
so?
It explosively reacts with water at -300F.
just put a little bit on their skin. they will be ash in a second. Also:

>>34633514
Would have to be maintained at extremly low temperatures to not dissolve.
Chlorine Trifluoride seems more practical

>>34633575
That's really a non-point

>>34633606
4% at -160°C

>>34633646
I need to work on reading

>>34633617
http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2008/02/26/sand_wont_save_you_this_time.php
Actually...you might be right. THe point is there are plenty of really fucking nasty chemicals that will absolutely destroy things utterly.

>>34633514
Or we could just use botox, you know, the most deadly and harmful substance discovered by man.

>>34633672
that is a fucking complicated chemical. really complicated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulinum_toxin

FOOF is literally 2x Florine and 2x oxygen
Chlorine Trifluoride is one chlorine and three Florine.

>>34633281
Hmm...we need a phylactery.

A receptacle for our essence to latch onto should the inevitable occur. Something that can be discreetly tied to us with mana.

>>34633742
I think something like that needs divine or atleast master in one of the prime elements.

>>34633742
>phylactery

...I like it.

>Saph is letting the scary lady go
The fuck is this? I have serious concerns about this and want to bring it up with Saph. For someone who claims to be good, she's seems way to okay with magic cannibalism.

>>34633704
qote from this article:
http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2008/02/26/sand_wont_save_you_this_time.php

"it’s bad enough when your reagent ignites wet sand, but the clouds of hot hydrofluoric acid are your special door prize if you’re foolhardy enough to hang around and watch the fireworks."

Yea....
Chlorine Trifluoride will fuck up anything. What do we need to unlock with our LIMIT points to be able to create it?

r>>34633742
aren't phylacterys a lich thing?

>>34633804
Should be doable with research and adept alchemy.
We realy need to test it smale-scale first though

>>34633767
And why did we abandon ice again? Shit was cash.

Maybe a fiend variant that uses ice instead of fire, for fire-based entities?

>>34633804
It can be stopped by regular ass metals though

>>34633786
Shes gonna be in our unit, we'll make sure an accident happens

>>34633281


With a deep breath, you decide to try out something a little different. Shades are the echo of the deceased. Just a reflection of who they were in life and an empty shell when compared to the real thing.
So in theory, it should be possible to summon a shade of a real person, right?

Might as well give it a shot. Reaching deep, you concentrate on everything that you define yourself as.

Your missing eye, amazing intellect, disdain for all things irritating, and magic. Can't forget the magic.

Forming a mirror out of ice, you draw forth the image, giving it form and life.

“Mirror, mirror, see my all. Summon forth a mirror thrall.” You whisper, a crude incantation as it manifests.

Walking from the mirror is a spritual body that looks every bit the same as you right down to an amused scowl. Letting up, you can't help but smile as you finish, nerves burning something fierce from the exertion.

“Okay, so-” You begin the little process of contracting the shade when it holds its fingers up to you, ready to snap.

“Hey asshole,” It says and you stare back in sudden disbelief. “Don't you know there can only be one of us?”
He snaps his fingers and fire fills your vision, everything goes dark...

>>34633844
It's gonna be our bone killer.
Bones aren't metal enough to withstand it

>>34633878
>we just killed ourselves
oh

>>34633878
Who would have thought.
Is it a bad end?

>>34633878
GG game over

>>34633878
Ha! I knew it would turn out horrible.

>>34633878
You are dead.
Please roll a new character

>>34633878


You blink your eye, the pain in your nerves still present from casting difficult magic. You could've sworn that your copy just killed you. What the hell? You look down, a corpse dissolving into your body. With a sudden startled yell, you stagger backwards, knocking down the ice mirror and falling on top of it as the remainder of the corpse vanishes.

What the fuck just happened? You touch yourself, feeling all over. You're alive. Heart's ticking, if a little fast and for sure you're breathing. Yeah, you're breathing. Okay.

>Burn: Medium(Light)
> Do you try this again?
>[] Um... Yes.
>[] No, enough dying. Holy shit.

>>34633878
Its like the prestige. Both of us were us, but we killed our self.

>>34633949
>>[] No, enough dying. Holy shit.
Fuck that

>>34633949
>[] No, enough dying. Holy shit.
Summoning shades of living people is stupid.
Let's go with the iceboard or prepare a sacrifice

>>34633949
Summoning shades of a living person who isn't us sounds fun.

>>34633949
>>[] No, enough dying. Holy shit.
Oh fuck. We just killed and replaced ourselves.

>>34633949
>[] No, enough dying. Holy shit.
I'm pretty sure the shade killed us and we are now the shade.
But since we are the same we don't know

>>34633949
>[] No, enough dying. Holy shit.

Well, an interesting experiment, but it's either been shown to be a bad idea to do this, or maybe we're just too much of an asshole to get along with ourselves.

And head off any existential crises that this might cause my reminding ourself that we're Asher, it doesn't matter because Lucia still loves us, we are still her champion, the rest is just semantics.

>>34634033
umm....are we a shade now?

>>34633949
>>34633949
Summon a shade of gertrude.

>>34633984
>>34633998
>>34634012
>Protip
You didn't summon a shade. Because a shade needs to be dead.

If you learn to exploit this there's a classic wizard spell to be learned from this phenomenon.

>>34634073
Did we rip our soul out of own body?

>>34634073
HOLY SHIT WE JUST DID BLINK

>>34634061
Yeah but I guess we pulled a Fara and took the body for ourselves soul and all. I guess we are still technically human if we took the soul and body. It could also made us easier to devour if our soul isn't all there.

>>34634143
Oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck, YES, FUCK YOU SAPH YOU AIN'T GOT SHIT ON US NOW

>>34634152
>>34634073
Or I guess not

>>34634143
We have a winner. You figured it out.

>>34634095
>>34634152
Dude. No. We just pulled a blink. A short range teleport in a random direction.

>>34634073
Looks like a way to resurrect ourself if we keep one in reserve and it can become us when we die.

>>34634191
HOLY FUCK YES PRACTICE DAT SHIT

>>34634194
>short range
>random direction
Sounds borderline worthless.

>>34634251
It's not even starting off random.

Practice will increase range and reduce the burn it causes.

Since the understanding's changed...

>Do you practice Blink?
>[] Yes.
>[] No, work on something else.

>>34634310
>[] Yes.

>>34634310
>1
FUCK YEAH

>>34634310
>>[] No, work on something else.
I want more offense. Want to do the blow out instead being blown out.

>>34634251
You sound like a boring person

>>34634191
More shit to do before Alchemy

>>34634310
Yes

>>34634310
>[] Yes.
How quickly can we make it happen?

>>34634368
The casting time will get lower and lower the more Asher performs it. That first cast took like a minute but it can get shaved down to less than seconds.

guys. we can use blink to get into melee range to fuck people up. don't our spells get more powerfull if we touch someone?

>>34634402
it's really only useful if we can cast it in under a second. Ether practice till we can do that or ignore it.

>>34634402
What happens when we technically kill ourself around saph?

>>34633949
Taking a breather to steady yourself after the near-death (Or was it actual death?) experience, you get back up and decide to try it again. You just.. summoned yourself, right?

A short incantation later and you create another double without the assistance of a mirror this time. It looks at you again, gives you a shit-eating smirk and blows up your head again.

After a moment, you blink and the body's vanishing into the new one again. It was faster that time, but it's weird. Just a moment ago, you were standing just over... And now you're...

You pause, considering the possibilities of this phenomenon. You were there, and now you're here. You moved from there to here.

Looking down to your hot iron nerves, the pain is getting to you, but you want to try it one more time.
Checking over the edge of the building, you see an empty alley. Not a soul down there.

“Alright, let's try this.” You grin, stepping up to the ledge, a sudden gust disturbing your balance ever so slightly.
Steadying yourself, you take a breath and focus on a spot. The double comes into being and you jump, without missing a beat, the doppleganger snaps, killing you in midair.

Your awareness shifts and no body falls, just a trail of ether on the other side flowing toward you. Sweat beads at your brow and pain sends you doubling over from the spell but holy shit you can't stop smiling.

You can teleport!

>>34634758
Summon Morgan. Invite her to a dance in celebration.

>>34634758
>Assisted suicide teleportation
Wizards: no sense of right and wrong.

>>34634758


A window opens up from above, and a man yells down at you, “Hey you fucking asshole, aint no fourth of july! People are trying to sleep!”

You look up at him and he seems to be taken aback. Right, the burn. You look at your hand, still glowing pretty bright. “Hey Morgan, can you help him back to sleep?”

{Certaintly Faust.} The Fae replies, she manifests before the man and kisses him. Right after her turns around and walks back off to bed like a zombie.

“You get that short term memory?”

{Of course. What am I, some kind of amateur?} She laughs as she vanishes back to the flow. You head back into the apartment to crash on the bed. You'll get that spell going faster yet. Wonder what happens when you summon other people?

You wake up morning of the next day, Emilia's doing some kind of yoga in the living room while the TV's on. Looks like she has it on the news...

>[] Watch the news with Emilia. You could use an update on general events.
>[] Go to the “Common” apartment for breakfast.
>[] Check up on the door to the woods.
>[] (Other)

>>34634868
>[] Watch the news with Emilia. You could use an update on general events.

>>34634868
>"Okay, Emilia, I'm gonna do something cool, and it might knock me out, and it'll feel fucking awful for you, and it'll be cool. Ready?"

>>34634868
Huh... So Teleportation works like in The Prestige, only we automatically take care of our double. I like it!

>>34634868
>[] Watch the news with Emilia. You could use an update on general events.

>news
we need to know the genral situation. also we may hear about fae related incidentd

>>34634900
This. Let's see if we can teleport Emilia

>>34634923
Until the original dies the second one is a doppelganger. The doppelganger autokills the original and absorbs body and soul.

>>34634977
that...that's very macabre

>>34634968
No. She's not cool enough to teleport.

>>34634868
>[] Watch the news with Emilia. You could use an update on general events.

>>34634977
>>34635012
magic full body transplant!
do wounds transfer?

>>34635099
Yes. Wounds and Burn transfer.

>>34634977
This is some D4C shit. Speaking of D4C, we gotta figure out how to do some of that shit.

New FIEND thing?

read when you want, will repost at thread end if I'm still awake.

Fiend Torrent. It's a Fiend variant requiring a source of water nearby. The idea is that the water is controlled, flowing towards the enemy in a tidalwave. Within is a mass of constantly freezing and unfreezing "snowflakes" that explode in spikes at random points before vanishing and making room for others. Depending on the size of the snowflake spikes, it could be used to chew away at heavy armor or sunder flesh at an alarming rate.

>>34634900
I really think we need to not kill Emilia (even if she comes back) with the way we are right now. We really shouldn't piss her off since she is useful.

>>34635149
Can't we not use ice for weaponry?

>>34635125
Even if the original got hit before the clone takes over and after it's summon?

>>34635163
>she is useful
Not really

>>34634868
>>[] Watch the news with Emilia. You could use an update on general events.
we have been out of the loop for a long time. current events would be good

>>34635149
>>34635186
we can't use ice offensively

>>34635216
She makes a pretty good meatshield and she isn't a terrible fighter.

>>34634977
So how is this getting added to the sheet?

>Blink(Summoning)[???]: Teleportation by creating a copy of yourself which then kills the original, absorbing their body and soul, resulting in displacement across space.

>>34635224
Damn.

>>34635192
Okay, here's how it works.

>Asher has a cut on his arm.
>Summons Doplleganger for blink.
>Emilia smashes his brains in.
>Doppleganger becomes original.
>Original still has a cut on his arm.

>>34635163
She was useful when controlled by an insane ice spirit.

>>34635275
Basically after the doppleganger is summoned, it's set up to become the original. with everything set at the point up to its summon.

>>34635283
She still has all the skills she learned when infected by Fara. She's learning more skills that she couldn't learn during infection.

>>34635324
thanks for clarifying

If you look into the magical properties of wood in Celtic mythology, you see that it's a perfect fit with Asher.

>Associations with air/water/earth/fire, sometimes more than one at a time
>"Spirit" as another thing to which wood can be aligned (Summoning)

Poplar especially is good for Asher as if focuses on Fire, Water, Spirits, and evocation.

>>34635431
There's also several types of wood that are good for working with fae, divination, and doing astral stuff.

>>34635431
>Celtic
Again with you.

>>34635266
Don't listen to dumb cunts that didn't read the pastebin. Asher has a penalty to offensive ice, but he can use it.

>>34635324
Unrelated, but did you decide on whether or not your reworking Enchantments to set their max grade to Adept?

>>34635508
... when did that change

>>34635530
When season 2 started

>>34635507
>The guy who can't tell the difference between Norse and Celtic
Again with you.

>>34635530
It's always been that way, But it means that Asher uses Ice at novice rank.

>>34635530
Weeks before the hiatus. Dran decided that it wasn't fair for us to have locked ourself into the worst way to do an oath.

>>34635550
It was before that.

>>34635560
No, it wasn't always that way. The original boost was a +1 to all ice no matter what, but ever using it offensively would cause it to change into a -1 for all ice.

Then we learned that we could do oaths the way we have it now, where the penalty only applies for the duration of the offending action, and you agreed that we could change it.

>>34635560
Hmmm...We'll need to up ice in order to do that Fiend Torrent thing, won't we?

>>34635643
That's kind of what I meant.

>>34635687
Upping Water is upping Ice.

>>34635687
Or just not use Ice for offense unless it's the only thing that can possibly hurt the target because, really, why in the world would we use the spell that takes a -1 penalty to all offensive use when we have a veritable swiss army knife full of deadlier shit?

And if we absolutely need ice damage, no other thing will work, why aren't we just using a summon? I don't understand why you like this Fiend Torrent thing.

>>34635702
's what I meant.

>>34635737
Because it's an AOE that has more killing power behind it than pretty much every other FIEND spell we have?

We should see about getting some more summons since we have some spare time, and we have Adept so we have a lot more options to choose from now.

Donneth and Morgan are both pretty useful, but there are some niches that they don't fill that well. For one we could use a good frontliner, something or someone who can handle themselves in melee and keep Bones and Veins from closing the distance on us.

>>34635800
It'll never have more killing power because of that penalty.
>>34635822
An Ifrit would be good for that.

>>34635800
It doesn't have more killing power behind it and it never will in the way you keep describing it. On top of that, it has nothing to do with the Fiend spell in any way beyond being AoE. It's more of hydrokinetic woodchipper, so at least think of a better name.

If you want it to work, don't make it use ice, make it use MF+Hydro(water only, maybe steam)

Also, that you keep saying Fiend in all caps is annoying and I wonder why you're doing that.

>>34635822
I don't think a 'frontliner' is ever going to keep a Bone off us. We need to rely on interference to keep a bone away since they can absorb any sustained magic. Positioning, distraction, impediments, sensory spoofing.

>>34635822
Summons aren't going to keep bones off us because they'll just eat our summons for power.

>>34635935
Maybe if we can make something that would be toxic to eat

>>34635961
Or that idea from earlier about making a toxic acid golem thing that will still kill them through mundane effects even if they eat the magic animating it.

>>34635961
We could just throw together a bunch of bullshit and have them eat it to ache the hell out of them

>>34635906
I'd rather have traps, positioning, impediments, sensory fuckery, teleportation, and some badass heroic fucker with a spear, than just traps, positioning, impediments and teleportation if a Bone decides we're a target.

The hope is that they buy us enough time to pull something off or get some more distance, and that the threat of them at their back keeps them from pursuing us incautiously. It's a stopgap measure, but still useful.

>>34635935
Definitely annoying, but they could still be useful against them.

And it'd still be handy against Veins, and against the menagerie of mechanical monstrosities that the government is using.

>>34636008
>>34635981
>>34635961
zombie thoughtforms?

>>34636036
You're missing the point here entirely. That won't work in any of the ways described.

>>34634868


You sit down against the wall while Emilia stretches and contorts her body in... enchanting ways. It's impossible for her not to notice you as she goes into downward facing dog, she wiggles her hips and you can't help but to bite your lip a little bit.

What the shit Emilia, weren't you fucking pissed just the other night? You squint your eye and focus on the television, passing glances over her nice tush and shapely calves.

The news line reads Sunday October 12th,2014.

The news features some shit about continued efforts by military personnel, Rentech industries, and even England and France to provide relief to the west coast. Seems that they're still keeping it under wraps.
There's word of a lot of accidents in LA and sudden boom of murders that's made Chicago have the second highest murder capitol in the states.

There's no word about Pahrump though before they switch over to local news.

There'll be a Fashion show throughout next week featuring Fashion by Revol Collections, Rentech Fashions, Marcel Marsouls, and Katrice Swan.
The newscaster makes mention that one of the highlights of the show will be the famous model Anna Swan, modeling for her sister's designs. You've heard of Anna Swan before. She's usually on the cover of fashion magazines that loiter about in grocery stores and convenience markets. She's a bit on the thin side though, like most models. Your eyes flick over to Emilia as she stands on one foot, rooted like a tree in the astral.

Yet Anna's face is something enchanting.

There's mention also of a Columbus day parade taking place tomorrow.
“It'd be nice if we could all go.” Emilia says out loud as she drops herself into sitting.

>>34636109


“All? You mean all of us fugitives and the creepy newly young vampire and the little girl thing with thunderthighs?

She looks back at you, nearly glaring, “Yeah, I think it'd be fun.” She pulls her feet in and rests her head against her knees, “We haven't really been able to do anything normal for a while, right? Who knows when we'll be able to relax again?”

Admittedly, she does make a good point. By the date, you'd spent something like three or more months in damn solitary confinement.

>[] “Wanna check out the fashion show? It's at millenium park, we'd get to see Anna Swan.”
>[] “I'll talk to Saph about the parade., that make you happy?”
>[] “Rather not deal with any big shit like that. I'm going to eat breakfast.
>[] (other)

>>34636130
>>[] “Rather not deal with any big shit like that. I'm going to eat breakfast.

>>34636130
>[] “I'll talk to Saph about the parade., that make you happy?”
We can use it as an excuse to have some fun, aka awaken people

>>34636130
>>[] “I'll talk to Saph about the parade., that make you happy?”

>>34636109
>Yet Anna's face is something enchanting.
Could you give a quick physical description of Anna?

And then give one of Violet?

>>34636109
>Revol
>Revoc
>Blumenkraz intensifies

>>34636109
>She's a bit on the thin side though
Worthless.

>>34636130
>[] “I'll talk to Saph about the parade., that make you happy?”

>>34636130
>>[] “Wanna check out the fashion show? It's at millenium park, we'd get to see Anna Swan.”
Anyone else get the feeling that models would be pressured into awakening, or is it just me?

>>34636130
>“All? You mean all of us fugitives and the creepy newly young vampire and the little girl thing with thunderthighs?
Eloquent as fuck.

>[] “Rather not deal with any big shit like that. I'm going to eat breakfast.

>>34636130
>[] “I'll talk to Saph about the parade., that make you happy?”

>>34636292
What's the deal with awakeings right now? Are we still getting brownie points with Lucy for everyone we awaken? Will this new group accept the newfriends?

>>34636492
Still get brownie points. And it's more likely that Saph would appreciate ones that're found or saved versus being the antagonist.

Hard to force someone into a shady group like this and it'd be best to keep exposure to a minimum.

>>34636573
I don't think we're still getting brownie points with Luci for just awakening people. It has to be something more than that. They have to be all "Oh Asher you da best I follow you anywhere!" and stuff.

>>34636633
We wear a mask, we do the whole blink thing but behind us right as we pull off the mask, it looks like we jump in and save the person.

>>34636658
That is so unbelievably retarded sounding...

>>34636658
I don't think anyone worth awakening is that dumb

>>34636130


“I'll talk to Saph about the parade, that make you happy?” You say, getting up with one last lingering look at Emilia's derriere. You smirk and find her at your back as you open the door.

“Didn't need you to ask for me.” Emilia slips on through going ahead, “Come on, we'll be late for breakfast.”

Most everyone else id finished eating when you and Emilia come in for the last servings. You catch Saph and run the prospect of hitting the parade tomorrow to help everyone settle in. Emilia brings up her own points about it and Saphira seems pretty convinced.

“All right, but I'll need to be clear that we only use our magic in public if absolutely necessary. That applies for now and the future.”

{That's no fun. Power should be used.} Morgan makes a comment through the astral.

“You will restrain yourself.” Saphira's calm posture doesn't change, her word at perfect room level.

Morgan doesn't say anything more, holding her silence.

“Faust,” Saphira looks to you, “Emilia.” A smile replaces her stern expression, “If you want to go out into the city, you're free to. I'm not holding anyone here, you know?”

Some of the others seem to get that message.

> You're free to go about town on an October Sunday...
>[] Sleep in, nowhere you'd rather be.(Next day)
>[] Go out somewhere(second selection)
>[] Check on Hydra and Henry.
>[] Check the door to the woods for more magic practice.
>[] (Other)

>>34636966
>Check on hydra and Henry.

>>34636966
>>[] Check the door to the woods for more magic practice.

>>34636966
Go mug a guy, we're gonna need some spending money for when we go

>>34636966
>Talk to Saph about her being retarded by letting the cannibal stay

>>34637009
If we need cash it'd probably be better to steal a pile of bills from an ATM or something like that. Morgan could probably pull that off in her sleep.

>>34637009
>>34637034
We don't need that at all. Part of the perks of the job was essentially unlimited cash.

>>34637034
Oh yeah, that would make more sense, have her rig it to fry the next guy who uses it too

>>34636966
>>[] Check on Hydra and Henry.
have donneth lead the way just to freak henry out

>>34636966
>[] Check the door to the woods for more magic practice.

Let's see about getting another Summon, maybe see if Lucia can put in a good word for us.

>>34637055
You and I both know thats gonna be lorded over our head later on

>>34636966
>[] Check the door to the woods for more magic practice.

>>34636966
>>[] Check the door to the woods for more magic practice.
Teleporting is good. But so is flight.

>>34636966
>>[] Check the door to the woods for more magic practice.
Can we practice chemical warfare now?

>>34636966
>>[] Check on Hydra and Henry.

Why do we have to go to the woods for magic practice? Can't we practice magic in the astral meditation place without incurring burn?

Is realworld magic practice better or something?


>>34637126
No. We need 1 more LIMIT before we can level Alchemy to the point that it can do transmutations outside air/water/earth/fire

>>34636966
>[] Go out somewhere(second selection)

>>34636966


You head up for the meyal door that shortcuts this urban environment with the woods that Zeitgeist's Saphira and Marcus had fled to. You open it and see forest on the other side, it's a surreal experience if you take the time to look at it without being rushed through.

It's changed locations again, and Marcus is nearby, staring at you. “Hey there recruit.” His casual word is unusual, his foul mood slightly uplifted. “Your monster did good last night.”

You'd almost deign to ignore him, you listen for a moment for the sound of water, you feel it in the distance, through the brush. “Did he?” You say in distraction, “Surprised to hear you say that when it caused a death.

Marcus shrugs, “Doesn't matter to me honestly. Saph's the one that cares about shit like that. Besides, all of the ones that lived managed to tap a bit into their powers. When you're with me you best be understand that you're just as likely to be killed as killed. Roseanne was destined to go with Eloc or Saph, it was her fault for choosing to follow that old witch.” Marcus actually throws his head back and laughs, “Anyone that can see the astral would that old bitch was something wrong and unnatural.”

“Yeah.” You say, kind of detached. “Saw a lot of weird shit around her, but she was pretty unassuming otherwise.”

“So what're you out here for?”

“Training.”

“Pretty damn dedicated aren't you?”

“Need to do something with my time. Especially with what you want us to do. Where's the river?”

>>34638136

Marcus points off to the distance, “About eight hundred yards that way. Careful of the wildlife, and try not to leave too many marks around here. Overwatch is determined that we're around here and I can only shake them so much in a day.”

“Right.” You start to head off, turning before a bit of brush, “Oh, and the Columbus Day parade is tomorrow. Saph wants us all to go.”

Marcus stares at you for a moment, but gives a nod. “Alright.”

You arrive at the river... Well, what to do.

>[] Surf on an iceboard.
>[] Practice blinking.
>[] Meditate on a mythos.
>[] Program Fiend Wisps.

>>34638158
>[] Practice blinking.

>>34638158
>[] Practice blinking.

>>34638158
>>[] Meditate on a mythos.

>>34638136
I'm starting to think we will never learn what astral Asher looks like
Oh well.

>>34638158
>[x] Program Fiend Wisps.

>>34638158
blinking

>>34638158
>>[] Program Fiend Wisps.

>>34638158
>>[] Meditate on a mythos.
>>[] Program Fiend Wisps.
honestly think its time we work on summons, wisps after if we have time
>can't decide on celtic or norse mythos

>>34638158
Blinking.

A short range teleport would be INCREDIBLY useful.

>>34638158
>>[] Practice blinking.

>>34638158
blinking.
its our "you smashed our head in? jokes on you there was a close of us right over there" card.

>>34638158
Would programming Fiend Wisps word help make it easier to program those chemical bonekiller things in the future? It makes sense that they would, since they'd really just be Fiend Wisps without the explosion part.

Or, hell. We could just leave the explosion part in and use ClF3 in the future since that shit is highly flammable and it'd be an improvement.

>>34638329
Yeah, if we could control where we were going. Which we can't.

>>34638158
>>[] Meditate on a mythos.

>>34638363
Actually you can. Explicitly, you can.

>>34638363
says who? Dota2 blinks are very controlled. I don't think I've heard of a blink that you can't control.

>>34638363
We can, actually. It's the fun part.

>>34638158
>>[] Meditate on a mythos.

>>34638158
>[] Practice blinking.

>>34638158
Fuck I really want Wisps, but Blinking is so cool...

>>34638158
>>[] Practice blinking.
after that maybe we can practice winking

>>34638411
Wisps are awesome. CiF3 is awesome. Blinking is awesome and can save our life.

You know...we really need a discussion on our future power paths. I feel like we are just playing as we go. We had a plan for alchemy right?

>>34638411
The wisps idea was pretty meh.

>>34638158
>>[] Practice blinking.
>>[] Program Fiend Wisps.
can we at least try to get these out of the way? I really want summons but can't til we get these down

>>34638158
>[] Program Fiend Wisps.
Blinking is cool in theory. Until you realize that Dran is going to make all the enemies have Blink spells of their own that are much quicker to cast and allow them to teleport much father than us.

And how many times are we going to "run away" Just seems like a waste.

>>34638458
it's not that there will be many enemies that blink it will be that they are stupidly fast. Fuck bones

>>34638158
>>[] Meditate on a mythos.
>>[] Program Fiend Wisps.
surf board later

>>34638388
Dungeon Crawl's Blinks are random. I'm sure I've played other games with random teleport abilities. Not that it matters in this case.

>>34638158
>>[] Meditate on a mythos.
>>[] Program Fiend Wisps.

>>34638458
Dran is going to have us die awesomly and then not be dead. idiot. Plus...I think that summons and exploding wisps and shit is more fun than lame things like alchemy. I saw we trade in our direc powers for mobility, survibility, information collection, and uber summons. Having 5x donnor and 3x fary would be sweet.

>>34638158
>[x] Practice blinking.

>>34638158
>>[] Program Fiend Wisps

>>34638420
No you can't.

>>34638505
Or are we ALWAYS winking???

>>34638498
>Thinks Alchemy is lame
>Wants survivability
Anon, one of the main reasons we got Alchemy is that it presents the opportunity to increase survivability massively.

It allows Asher to modify his body so that he's not just a squishy human anymore.

>>34638498
You are, in fact, the idiot. Alchemy buffs are survivability AND power.

>>34638498
I think this might be the dumbest post I've seen in Overlimit in a long time.

>>34638158
>>[] Practice blinking.

>>34638534
>>34638551
Well...sorta. In wierd ways that i'm guessing are hard to write for. Writing summons is awesome, as they are new characters. Writing for flashy wisp CiF3 bombs is also cool, but alchemy is barely defined in what it can actually do or what it's limits are. As a former QM, I would rather write for summons or blinky flashy wizard shenanigans.

>>34638435
>i
That's an l. Chlorine is Cl

>>34638592
We're not getting rid of Summoning, dude. It was decided at the very beginning threads that Summoning was getting DIVINE status. Back was DIVINE level was a thing.

>>34638592
>Constantly getting the abbreviation for chlorine wrong
>i'm
>wierd
>Complete non-understanding of how spells and cantrips function within the context of the quest.
>Claims to have been a former QM and thinks this has any merit in the conversation.

Anon, I'm getting empathetic embarrassment from you.

>>34638592
>alchemy is barely defined in what it can actually do or what it's limits are
Alchemy is a pseudo-scientific magical field largely to do with the alteration of things and effects and, as a result, the creation of magical items. If you said that chemistry was about physical reactions and the movement of pieces of matter, you could maybe say something like alchemy is about conceptual reactions and the movement of ideas, or something like that.

>>34638863
>and, as a result, the creation of magical items
It doesn't, though. I mean, it can make magical items, but we've mainly been looking at creating mundane substances that are in and of themselves totally unmagical, mainly because magical stuff is Bone food whereas they can't feed off of mundane hazards.

>>34638918
I seem to recall us debating a lot of things like magical transhumanism, superweapons, and there may have been something about trying to shrink boulders so we could drop them on people who would eat the magic keeping them from being smacked by several tons of falling rock.

Something came up guys, I'll be running around 15:00 tomorrow.

Sorry about this.

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>>34638996
It's all good. Thanks for running.

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>>34638996
Fine, see you then Dran

>>34638996
And it's gonna get cut off early tomorrow too, isn't it.

>>34638996
Think about the enchantment grade change thing before tomorrow. I wanna know what you decide.

>>34639055
Starting earlier because I have somewhere to be later.