Oh boy we just wont stop being great

>>35114739
Alright going to be typing for a while since including the dance and all that

>>35114768
Yay Lyann dancing. Gotta make the slavegirls dance. Well, not make, but I'm sure she'd be happy to dance for us if we asked nicely.

>>35114825
or subtly said we would enjoy her dancing

hey i cant find our MC stats in the PDF does any one know what page hes on

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You successfully craft some make up with elli, and after a few days, pick up the enchanted clock from Okaba.

You really don't get the common sense of this world, but it doesn't seems like Lyann or Elli are the smallest bit embarrased wearing the bright red bodypaint markings and the silk.

Your mom doesn't seems to think anything about it, either.

It's probably that. You know, knights wear armor, wizards use canes. Dancers clothing is skimpy and light, if any. It's their job's uniform. That0s all.

Well, Lyann does blush brightly as you, mom and Athena sit on chairs in the garden to watch them dance over the summoning platform.

Of course, Athena is in your mother's lap.

Everyone claps when the beautiful dancers come out to stage. Athena isin't sure why everyone's clapping, But it's fun to clap.

Lyann is quite embarrased about showing off all that practicing she did, however.

Over THAT, she is quite embarrased. Its fun to watch. Its cute

A deeply blushing little Lyann is cute.

Elli starts singing softly as she dances, guiding Lyann along. It's a much more tranquil and serene dance than the wild jumping and pseudo hunting you saw at the nomad's tent.

It really feels like an event for the whole family. Yup, definitively a family friendly event

Even tho the dancers are so very exposed, the silk floats to the right spots every time. It is not different from a straw skirt or any other clothing.

But still, it sure is nice to watch Lyann and Elli dancing. Elli has a charming, nubile charm, while Lyann has a very fresh and embarrased look.

It is a very enjoyable world, right now.

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>>35114964
Page 40. Bottom of the page.
Look carefully seems like it's "mixed".

>>35115068
ok thanks

>>35114964
Eldric Lightbringer
8 years old Human
Level 8 Wizard, 8 Scion, 8 Noble, 8 Ranger, 8 Knight, 8 Healer
74 str
130 dex
90 con
70 int
158 wis
42 cha
26 app

818 HP
232 MP

PDV 63/MDV 65
Armor 39/SR 15

+12 Elemental
+8 Divine

+40 Melee Weapons
+24 Ranged Weapons

Item Box 8 slots
armor prof: L, M. H
weapon tricks Off & Def
bonus poInts 48
Weapon Tricks: Parry, 5 others
Spell Tricks: Wall, Blast, Barrier, Cascade

(A) Elemental Magic: Can use elemental magic.
(A) Divine Magic: Can use divine spells
(A) Stealth: Disappear until you attack or use an item.
(A) Summon Mount: While mounted, your speed is three times as much as normal, your charge deals triple damage, and you gain +10 to melee attack rolls.
(P) Counterspell: Whenever you are affected by a ranged attack or spell, you can counter attack with a single target spell you know. You must still pay the MP cost of this spell.
(P) Sneak Attack: Whenever you hit a foe's PDV while using Stealth, you deal triple damage.
(P) Mettle: You gain +20 to Armor and SR for each enemy adjacent to you.
(P) Shield of Light: Overheal becomes an HP shield around the target, up to the Healer's Wisdom.

***

You are clapping together with your mom and Athena.
It was a very beautiful sight. Elli has to grab Lyann to force her to stay and gracefully bend over to greet the audience, so she won't just run inside, red as an apply.

Again, it's not about her (lacking of) clothes, it0s just stage fright. You really wish you had a camera

Danren also claps from behind the fence.

"Quite the lovely sight" -he says in a good mood. "I think this is a good time as any to introduce myself."

>>35115112
ohhh not this guy again

>>35115112
How dare he, this asshat

>>35115112
FUCK YOU GUY

>>35115141
either you clicked the wrong person. But just in case you didn't.

Fuck off.
>>35115176
samefag

>>35115184
uuhh thats 2 different people

>>35115141
>>35115176
>>35115180
Didn't he say he was dad's friend?

>>35115184
yeah im the guy who posted first here after it came up and first in the other one

>>35115227
He has said that yes and I do think King said Dad mentioned him. However I'm still suspicious as fuck.

Reasonably convinced he's going to make a move on Mom or Elli. Either way he can fuck off.

>>35115227
ya but he could have said something earlier but did not

>>35115112

"This is for you, ma'am" -he hands a letter to your mom. It's from your dad

"And this for you, champ. Happy birthday." -he hands you a small wooden box.- "I would open that when I'm alone, if I were you"

"How did you know it was my birthday?"

"Well, I'm your godfather" ~he winks at you

Your mom is confused between being happy for receiving news of your dad, and angry at her "neighbor" for deceiving her for almost 2 months

She decides she'll wait until she reads the letter.
But she doesn't invites him in

He apologizes for the decepton

"I will be just across the street if you need me. I'm afraid I really shouldn't socialize too much with you. I spent every day building a reputation as a womanizer and flirt, so it wouldnt be suspicious to see me talking with such a beautiful young woman, living across the street, but you never know." ~he bows politely

Your mom ushers everyone inside and then to the living room.

The letter explains that "Dan" is your dad's best friend. When you wrote to your grandpa, there was worry about the letter having been open before it got to him.

It could just be that a nomad got curious, but just in case...

Your dad asked Dan to go watch over the both of you. He was meant to pose as a womanizer and carefree guy so that noone would suspect him chatting with the pretty girls across the street later on.

1/2

>>35115141
>>35115176
>>35115180

Oye vey, just because he's potential romantic competition you guys instantly hate the dude. Have you no confidence in your own abilities to woo the women of your choosing? Besides, man didn't snitch to mom on our dungeon diving. That earns him points in my book.

I'd keep an eye on him (as I like to keep an eye on everyone), but hatred is a bit much given how he's been solid so far.

>>35115227
he is our dad's best friend.
We know this for a fact, he stated it.
GM also confirmed it.

I honestly have no idea why some people are acting like children about this. Our character is 37 years old not 5.
He hasn't done anything disrespectful. And He wouldn't even go inside his best friends wife's home because the man of the house isn't home * his friend our father.*

>>35115302
It's leverage he's holding against us. He's been flirting with Mom and Elli and if he was legit he would have announced himself and his purpose outright.

>>35115302
>>35115300
>>35115176 (You)
my opinion of this man has henceforth changed, I forgot who he was and now his intentions have been revealed, I thought he was some asshole we didnt like

>>35115323
If he's dear old dads best buddy here for totally legit purposes. Why move in next door and endear himself before revealing he is who he is?

>>35115362
He's also kind of intruding on what is apparently a family moment. He's rude.

>>35115395
that is also true, I feel like a dick now for jumping the gun but ahhh whatever lets see what he actually wants first, lets surprise him with our grown upness, and see whether his intentions are true

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>>35115343
Leverage only matters if you're being forced to do something you don't want to. Just because you have dirt on someone doesn't mean you have to use it.

You probably know some shit about your friends that could land them in deep shit if you squealed, yet I bet he don't see you knowing it as you having "leverage" on him.

>>35115365
Dad's probably paranoid as all hell. See, if he's high in the command structure then it ain't just you they'll aim to assassinate. They'll go for the family, demoralize him, or send him into a fury where he makes big mistakes (i.e. fight stupid).

If an assassin thinks the dude is actually watching over them, he'll factor that into his plans. He needed a legit performance out of the family to ensure any would be hitmen don't factor him into their plans, thus increasing the chances he can get the jump on them if they turn up.

This is of course, Stalin level paranoia planning but it is his family, he just might be that paranoid about this.

>>35115300
if this letter is true then dad has more cunning then i believed to be i want the hand writing checked

>>35115365
I refer you to read >>35115300

but the thing is.. OP confirmed this for us in side of MC knowledge.

OP I'd like to ask, I've noticed early on that You had Noble off for one of the threads.
Considering Thats our class and not a job. And it's the only one we have wouldn't it make sense that we can't turn it off?
That being said does having our class on suck exp from our jobs? I don't think it's in the pdf. But I didn't even look into it TBH.
So it would make the exp only slpit between wizard/healer/knight correct? instead of the 4 ways?

>>35115426
Overall my thoughts.

1: GREAT FRIEND OF DAD! that shows up and tries to get close to everyone before revealing, " I AM A GREAT FRIEND OF DAD!"

2: Sees his best friends kid in an adult dungeon. Instead of worrying or freaking out or being a responsable adult and warning his mom he more or less says GOOD LUCK KIDDO!

3: Notices an intimate family moment walks in for his big reveal!

>>35115300
Your dad writes her love to mom. and sends his congratulations on your 9th birthday.

He says that he's busy raiding the enemy supply lines, deep in the desert, so he won't be able to send letters for a while, and to not send any more letters directly.

You should hand them over to Dan, and he will send them to your grandpa. They will do the same.

He used to run with dad when dad was a shameless youngster back in the day, and then they signed up together for the army.

When he left, Dan stayed with your grandfather, so your mom never met him in person before. Still, your dad made him your godfather.

Your dad also suggest that you should not let him drink, because he has an habit of talking too much when there's any alcohol inside him, and he doesn't wants him telling mom about his younger and stupid self.

After that, dad reports on what's going on with the war.

The Alquian empire's Navy was defeated at sea by Eopolis merchant fleet, so they were forced to move across the desert.

This slowed them down considerably, but they still managed to reach the hill-cluttered region at the north of the desert.

After months of siege, the Alquian troops managed to break through thanks to hiring orc warbands as mercenaries, and the army of the Commonwealth had to retreat north towards the Yellowleaves forest.

Currently, they hope to enlist the aid of the elves against the empire.

From your classes, you remember that the Yellowleaves forest is a massive elven realm. They are extreme isolationists, however, so that sounds pretty hard.

>>35115476
Yeah, he's p. cool.
We should have a talk with him and say that while it's cool to finally meet him we need to act suspicious and stuff at him because stranger flirting with mom while dad away == do not like.

>inb4 guise lets get him drunk and hear stories about dads youngsters days
He'd end up spilling meeting us in dungeons as well.

>>35115533
i think we should say we were just suspicious of him since out of the blue we get a new neighbor after sending our letter
also i agree with the drinking

there was brief mention last thread of taking all three hybrid classes once we qualify...

I don't agree with becoming a thaumaturgist/paladin/duelist/noble

For one thing, the appeal of thaumaturgist is that it offers both divine and elemental magic.We're already going to be getting divine magic through paladin, and wizard gives better stat gains, being a base class.

keeping wizard also allows us to get to archmage, which has that 'shoot every target in sight with one spell'.

I'm somewhat more neutral on duelist, but it adds one good class ability...and offers nothing else. We get our fighting and magic through other classes. So the question is, is that class ability worth splitting our xp another way instead of dropping a class so we advance faster?

Wizard(archmage)/paladin/noble

This keeps our core abilities intact(elemental magic, divine magic, fighting) while allowing us to advance faster than our current wizard/knight/healer/ranger/noble split

hybrid classes are more appealing for npcs because they can't keep multiple jobs up.

>>35115597
alternatively we could go Healer/Spelldueler/noble
and that would advance just as fast, while keeping our access to our core skills. also, let's us try for bishop if you want that raise spell.

I prefer wizard/paladin/noble.

>>35115597
>>35115678
>Wizard(archmage)/paladin/noble
This seems a nice target.

>>35115476
We should tell mom he's allowed to be in the house.

As the closest person we know to the archbishop class, he's going to be an important part of our future adventuring party.

>>35115476
>noble split

So King would you mind going over this?
You stated basically your class would be up. and then jobs.
I think you also said basically for every year you live in a class it's level goes up. I understand that later levels would be impossible to just level from living. But we're a level 8 noble that's age is 8? while dungeoning and what not? ;-;
may want to look into that for next thread.

>>35115597
I disagree, and think we should go Wizard/Noble/Healer/Paladin until we can upgrade Healer to Bishop.
We are still the only one that's going to be able to get Archbishop without Temple and Church bureaucratic interference, and get there the fastest.
Not to mention, a a base Job Healer is going to give very large bonuses to stats per level up.

>>35115725
>As the closest person we know to the archbishop class, he's going to be an important part of our future adventuring party
thank you. I've been saying that for the longest.
no one seemed to agree with me on that..
doing bishop is a waste of time.
>>35115678
I agree with class choices.

>>35115678
Duelist please.

>>35115744
That's a long time to invest in a class we can't use in public. To gain a spell we can't use in public, because everyone thinks we're a wizard/noble.

I'd be against it unless we're not hiding our scion abilities. If we are hiding from our companions, then it slows our advancement for something we can't even use without breaking secrecy.

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>>35115462
>Considering Thats our class and not a job. And it's the only one we have wouldn't it make sense that we can't turn it off?
Yeah, you are right, ill remember that

It does, yes

>>35115466
>GOOD LUCK KIDDO!
He and your dad did some amazing stupid shit back in the day. And your dad kept writing (firs) and then telling him about how amazing you are. And who says he's not monitoring you through other means?

***

"Well... I think I am quite upset right now. Yes, positively angry." -says your mom "Both at this gentleman and to your father. Elli, please take the children upstairs. I need to go trade some words with the gentleman across the street."

"Ah, yes ma'am!"

Elli pulls you all upstairs. She and Lyann are still dressed up in dancer's garbs.

Right as your mother is about to reach the door, she looks back.

"Lyann, you looked really good out there."
"T-thank you madam"
"Please take a bath and clean the paint of, however."
"O-of course."

A few minutes later, you can see your mom crossing the street. She doesnt has to knock. Danren lets her in.

Looking at your godfather's gift, it's a thumb-thick pile of cards.

There's a little note: "One for each birthday I missed." -Uncle Dan

>>35115826
Man how did grandpa even know, We are being buttered up and it is working

>>35115826
based uncle

>>35115744
>to get Archbishop without Temple and Church bureaucratic interference, and get there the fastest.
So you think getting 2 more levels and then 20 levels in bishop to reach archbishop.
Will be faster then him getting 14 levels as a bishop?
When with scion, our exp rate is always going to be split at least 2 ways. wizard/healer or bishop.
making a 50% gain 75% to each job.
the exp will likely be split 3-4 ways.
And who says him going to a temple will be an issue? It takes moments. And worst case scenario we can do it for him, just as fast as we can do it our self.
So please stop.
If you see im wrong please correct me.

>>35115850
I mean god father SHIT

>>35115826
What are the cards? Any really good ones? We are in need of a good deal of high-level enchants.

>>35115826
>There's a little note: "One for each birthday I missed." -Uncle Dan
...favorite uncle.

Now review those cards and enchant that equipment for lyann.

>>35115897
>Now review those cards and enchant that equipment for lyann
the only thing we have for lyann is the crown i think.
And we've a few other cards.
But depending on the cards we may just use it our self.* the crown *
I don't think Lyann will be going into dungeons atm.

>>35115956
we said we'd sell the crown after enchanting

>>35115858
Yes, you're wrong. The man is 29, was on adventures for years with our dad, and was still only level 6 Bishop.
We're already halfway to Bishop after six months and will make Bishop in another six months and archbishop in a year after that, the expected timeframe of the time skip. And that's it we stick to dungeon-diving every other day. Once we can go into a dungeon every day, that rate should increase by 25% at least.

So yes, I think your calculations are very wrong.

>>35115974
>we said we'd sell the crown after enchanting
several people disagreed.

6 slot items are 'rare', if it get's enchanted right then that's high level equipment that you aren't going to find in a store without spending thousands of gold.

You only sell the stuff that you can't use.

>>35115824
We can use the passives and the actives by saying we're a thaumaturge to explain using Elemental and Divine magic at once.
No one else can see our Jobs, and our party already knows that we have a wide range of skills, some combinations that seem odd.

>>35115735
>So King would you mind going over this?
Not at all
>You stated basically your class would be up. and then jobs.
Right
>I think you also said basically for every year you live in a class it's level goes up. I understand that later levels would be impossible to just level from living. But we're a level 8 noble that's age is 8? while dungeoning and what not? ;-;
But it also gets exp normally. Its 10 after the time skip, btw
>may want to look into that for next thread.
okay


x2 Snake Card -- Weapon Only. (doesn't stack) +5% chance per attack to inflict [Poison] on the enemy. +50 STR 20g
1x [Marina Card] -- weapon only. +5% chance to inflict [Frozen] on hit. Frozen enemies cannot escape, they are slowed, and their defenses are lowered. 12g
x1 [Kavach Icarus] +10% chance to escape from any combat. If this is the first card on any gear, it adds +10 PDV and MDV, as well as +10% chance to escape from any combat. 20g
2x [Man Eating Plant] Weapon Only - You heal +10 HP on hit. 20g
2x [Ghost] Weapon Only - You heal +10 MP on hit. 20g
x1 Vanberk Card - Helmet only - +20 STR. Every attack has a +5% chance to grant +100% chance to critical for 2 rounds. 100g

>>35116101
:(

So many weapon only cards.

Save them for now, maybe we'll find something they'd be good for.

>>35116025
>"Oooh, what a lovely crown, nya!"
>"Can I keep it while we decide what to enchant it with? then we sell it and split that evenly"
>"I don't mind. Not my kind of thing. Even if it smells really nice."
>"Eh, it's fine with me too, as long as we get it's worth later. No reason not to use it ourselves, after all. It's not as if it will lower its value" -says Ardkill

>You keep the Wildflower Crown for now. Your party expects you to pay them 150 g for it later when it is sold, or more if they help enhance it first.

>>35116101
use our kobold card on the spear, then sell it to help cover the wildflower crown.

>>35116101
Sell them.

>>35116101
Damn, those are some nice ones.

>>35116101
We can use the Kavach Card on the anklet or crown and make it stronger with Kobold. We can use Man Eating Plant on the Dragon spear and make it stronger with the cobold.

>>35116101
>x2 Snake Card -- Weapon Only. (doesn't stack) +5% chance per attack to inflict [Poison] on the enemy. +50 STR 20g
>1x [Marina Card] -- weapon only. +5% chance to inflict [Frozen] on hit. Frozen enemies cannot escape, they are slowed, and their defenses are lowered. 12g
>x1 [Kavach Icarus] +10% chance to escape from any combat. If this is the first card on any gear, it adds +10 PDV and MDV, as well as +10% chance to escape from any combat. 20g
>2x [Man Eating Plant] Weapon Only - You heal +10 HP on hit. 20g
>2x [Ghost] Weapon Only - You heal +10 MP on hit. 20g
All of these, we're going to be doing some serious enchanting soon, might as well stock up. Even if we don't want to use a card on our own stuff, its a good idea to have a few to enchant onto dungeon drops for added gold

>>35115977
this is at a pace where we're doing dungeons.
Who is to say we can't start doing dungeons with him?

>>35116101
But it also gets exp normally. Its 10 after the time skip, btw
yeah I'm saying shouldn't it be at least higher than our age?

x2 Snake Card -- Weapon Only. (doesn't stack) +5% chance per attack to inflict [Poison] on the enemy. +50 STR 20g
Doesn't stack, but how about a kobold card?
also would this work on a staff to inflict poison via spells?

also I am just giving out what i think. and reasons for it. While I don't want to be a bishop. if majority votes that way im not going to push the issue.

>>35116158
>ou keep the Wildflower Crown for now. Your party expects you to pay them 150 g for it later when it is sold,

That's because our party expects to receive 150g for it. They don't care what we do with it, as long as they get their money.

>>35116101
keep the cards.

>>35116202
We got side businesses to account for the money. They'll get their take, and we will have a very nice head piece for our slave girl. Everybody wins.

Need to get that baking soda going. We could also go for hypoallergenic cosmetics, baking soda, and caffeinated cola. Those would be big money makers without disrupting the tech level too much.

>>35116202
Also rmember we got 56g from our past goods.
we also picked up quite a few things this last adventure. a few dozen iron or steel ingots.. and some other stuff. when we get our share. We can give them the difference or take whats left over.
+>>35116265
we going to make enough money to cover our gear costs. If they thought nice smelling soaps where good. cosmetics is going to make every noble on this continent rush to buy our goods.
we can make some cheap shit for commoners. and that good stuff for nobles.

>>35116101
As much as I want to use the Vanberk card on the Thorned Crown, we should save it for a piece of Heavy Armor Helmet, since the +STR would be more useful for a tank or off-tank.
It may be better to use an Icarus and Kobold cards on the Crown.

Snake and Kobold on the spear should boost its sale price to cover everyone else's share for the crown.

>>35116193
>Who is to say we can't start doing dungeons with him?
When he said he can't be seen too much with us.

>>35116459
>When he said he can't be seen too much with us.
in a dungeon. there aren't to many prying eyes.
lol
>tedytwh eyes
captcha

>>35116172
What had we used on the spear before? a Ghost card, I think?

>>35116193
I know, I didint think about it and was just keeping it even with the jobs

>>35116193
>Doesn't stack, but how about a kobold card?
I would say Kobold would double the STR bonus and make the poison automated (theres always a chance the target resists it, tho, but it would be cast on every hit)
>also would this work on a staff to inflict poison via spells?
I imagine so, same as above

>>35116265
Honestly, I think we should invent champagne
The bubble effect would be a hit

***
After a while, you hear your mom come back into the house. She doesnt seems to be angry anymore.

The following day, she mentions that Danren is "alright" but she's not going to be inviting him for tea any time soon.

A few more days pass, and you receive the anklets from Grummir. They look amazing.

The crystal has a golden shine thanks to the Amber details. They are a combo between jewelry and slave cuffs, with a bright large golden ring hanging from a little plate in the front.

You quickly dismiss the idea of any metal chain on these. They look way, way too delicate, albeit grummir assures you that they are hard as adamantite.

"It's really nice work, even if I say so myself."
"Thanks Grummir. I'll definitively ask you for other stuff in the future."
"No problem. Just make sure you put them on a pretty girl, alright?" -he laughs a bit

You've also gotten 30g from your sidebusinesses in these three weeks.

You also bought 6 more Kobold Cards. their cost is included in your gold gains

*Take the cuffs to Okaba and discuss about cursing/enchanting them
* Time skip to the beginning of the new semester
* Other

>>35116493
>*Take the cuffs to Okaba and discuss about cursing/enchanting them


Find out our options.

We should really practice curse manipulation ourself so we don't have to depend on okaba.

>>35116493
>*Take the cuffs to Okaba and discuss about cursing/enchanting them

>>35116493
>What had we used on the spear before? a Ghost card, I think?

yes


>>35116493
>*Take the cuffs to Okaba and discuss about cursing/enchanting them

>* Other
buy a basic cursed item to practice manipulating it for enchantment

>>35116488
>there aren't to many prying eyes.
Not in a dungeon but plenty in the Adventurer's Guildhouse we have to go through.

>>35116493
>*Take the cuffs to Okaba and discuss about cursing/enchanting them

>>35116493
Best thing about champagne is that all it really takes is thick glass bottles and a way to keep that cork locked on. Ya basically just let it ferment in the bottle, the fermentation reaction provides the CO2. It's easy really, but it requires the tech level be high enough to make said thick glass bottles.

>>35116493
>*Take the cuffs to Okaba and discuss about cursing/enchanting them
No curses, though. Because they all seem to be tailored to making sure slaves stay obedient, which we have shown time and again is what we want to do to Lyann.

>>35116493
*Take the cuffs to Okaba and discuss about cursing/enchanting them
We should also ask how Southern Enchanting will interact with the Northern Slot system.

>>35116602
Not what we want*

>>35116602
And remember that cursed items can't be taken off. They can't be physically removed without going to a Temple and paying a fee.
In fact, King, does removing a cursed item destroy it, like in some games?

Oh, by the way, before I forget

Incubus Card.
INT -30, Max MP +150 and MP natural recovery -20%.
If the user is equipped with an item enhanced with the Succubus card,
it adds Int +70 and MP natural recovery +300%.
Insertable on: Headgear
Weight : 1
Cost 2c

Since we are buying Kobold cards, a dwarven adventurer approaches us with "a sweet deal". He offers to sell us a super rare card.

Of course, you are aware that noone else in the world can read the fine print on it, so as far as he knows, it's utter trash

He has three of these

>>35116672
for 2 copper, buy all three.

then ask if he knows about any succubus cards.

>>35116672
Oh, so the incubus and succubus cards are like an enchanting set, only really worth something if you're offering both at the same time. Good to know.

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>>35116658
No. It just removes them.

The dwarf wants to sell us the three Incubus cards in 2g each

>>35116672
buy all three we can use that with a kobold and Succubus card on the crown. But we can just keep them for now until we get succubus card.

>>35116672
all these cards we get are being listed in our inventory right?

...don't want to just disapear in a couple threads because they were forgotten about.

>>35116729
Succubus Card.
CON -30, Max HP +1000 and HP natural recovery -20%.
If the user is equipped with an item enhanced by the Inccubus card,
it adds CON +40 and HP natural recovery +30%.
Class : Card
Enhances: Armor

"Uhm.... do you have any succubus cards?" ~you ask him innocently
"Eh? Im sure I can get you some. How many do you want? They'll be... 2... no, 10 gold each!"

>>35116739
>sell us the three Incubus cards in 2g
...at 10000 times their value

just buy one and put in a standing order for a couple succubus card.

We currently only have one helmet(wildflower) that can be enchanted.

>>35116739
Try to haggle down to 1G each, telling him we're a collector as well as a researcher, and we've heard that there are Succubus cards.
If he offers us the Succubus cards to go along with them, we'll pay full price.

>>35116819
>How many do you want? They'll be... 2... no, 10 gold each!"
Haggle...we can always go to the auction or another shop.

we want as many succubus cards as we get incubbus cards.

>>35116826
It's a Gold Dwarf. You know the favorite position of gold dwarves? rubing 2g together

The Succubus card is actually worth 800s, btw. The extra HP ~IS~ nice

>>35116819
3 cards, but we'll go no higher than 2G 500S.

Remember that the listed prices are just what they sell to a vendor; it has nothing to do with actual rarity or ease of finding them.

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>>35116826
It's called business amigo. You charge what the market will bear. If people are buying at 10,000 times value well that's what you sell it for and that's what you tell people it costs. It's strictly capitalism.

>>35116672
Our 'kings armor' was enchanted with a zenite card, but IIRC correctly it had two card slots? is that right?

we could put a succubus card on the armor and an incubbus+kobold on the wildflower crown and use both ourselves.

>>35116870
...haggle, but get an equal amount of incubus and succubus cards.

>>35116844
supported

>>35116844
>>35116869

roll 1d100, you want a 60 or higher

You do know that wearing even ONE card of either type "upgrades" the cards of the other type, right?

It just says "if the user is equipped with an item hacing X, then Y is better" it doesnt has to be 3X and 3Y

Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>35116924
no we should put the succubus on lyanns silk the incubus in the crown and enhanced them both with kobold cards. This way Lyann can keep save while still being useful.

>>35117046
also rolling

Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>35117046

Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>35117046

Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>35117046

>>35117092
>>35117095
which one is mine

>>35117046
>it doesnt has to be 3X and 3Y

yeah, but this gives us a pair to use for new equipment instead of only having an incubus card spare for new enchanting.

>>35117084
>no we should put the succubus on lyanns silk the incubus in the crown and enhanced them both with kobold cards.
This, I second this.

>>35117084
success. He is okay selling you the Incubus at... 1g 200s each, and then succubus cards at 7g each.

But he also cries that you are taking the bread out of his children's mouths!

Also, cleansed the way the cards are writen to make their effect clearer

x3 jIncubus Card.
INT -30, Max MP +150 and MP natural recovery -20%.
If the user is equipped with an item enhanced with the Succubus card,
it adds INT +40 and MP natural recovery +30% instead

x3 Succubus Card.
CON -30, Max HP +1000 and HP natural recovery -20%.
If the user is equipped with an item enhanced by the Incubus card,
it adds CON +40, Max HP +1000 and HP natural recovery +30% instead.
Enhances: Armor

>>35117151
And if there's a kobold on both pieces?
muh dick

>>35117151
buy 2 each, so lyann and ourselves can have one.

Didn't we promise to take Lyann dungeon delving? we can go with her on the easier dungeons for now to level her up

Also, dancer IS a magic class right? she is benefiting from the tutelage at the mage college

Also, early on we examined the scion class and found out detailed info on it. can we examine the villager class and the noble class to compare the two? since we said we can upgrade mom from villager to noble since she married dad, I want to know if the upgrade is worthwhile

also, question. does disabling a class only prevent it from gaining XP, or does it prevent it from functioning at all and you lose its powers?

>>35117151
24G600S for 3xIncubus and 3xSuccubus cards.

Next on the agenda is to talk to Okava about enchanting.

>>35117229
>Didn't we promise to take Lyann dungeon delving? we can go with her on the easier dungeons for now to level her up
incidentally, we can switch our sword to drain HP and use it on those easier levels. that way we have essentially infinite stamina.

Oh shit! we can farm low level dungeons for MP with the sword drain ability AND for the gem!
I mean shit, it can be not just us but our entire party. Right now when the casters run our of juice we leave. we should instead equip the casters with MP drain items and go into level 1 dungeon to just recover all MP. then go back to appropriate level to grind again.

>>35117229
Taking Lyann dungeon diving will have to happen during the timeskip.

>>35117304
I am fine with it being during time skip

also, we were going to ask lyann about the whole cursed bracelet thing and get her permission, right?
well, is it more prudent to ask her first before we waste a 200gp bracelet by cursing it and then she not wanting to accept the curse for power deal?

>>35117151
You walk away from eachother, each thinking the other a sucker
>>35117229
>Also, dancer IS a magic class right?
Yes and No
Not YET
I AM going to make a hybrid dancer/wizard class in the future, as well as an hybrid wizard/healer class, but for now we only have dancer/thief
I really really want to do that. Im just out of ideas on exactly how atm

>>35117229
Noble gets mainly mental stats, while villager gets physical stats and an inventory

And we really shouldnt be able to disable our class, that was my mistake

>>35117304
No, I said we would timeskip to it, then later timeskip again. We will do a little of it

***

You take the ankle cuffs to Okaba...

The prince is having tea on his room by the window, while a small group of girls admires him from the first floor.

Aura is laying on the bed without shoes, reading something without a care in the world.

"Oh, eldric, how may I help you? please come on in" ~he greets you politely and invites you to take a seat~ "Would you like a chess match?"

You show him the ankle cuffs (or wrist cuffs, really, same thing to be honest) and ask him what he could do with them.

"Well, what would you like me to do? should I talk about restrictions? they're for your slave, right? or should I talk about enhancements?"
"Enhancements, please"

The prince smiles a little

"Alright, first, you need to decide if these are for her ankles or wrists. If it is for the ankles, I could capitalize on it and add things like faster movement speed, healing per step, or extra agility. If these are for her wrist, then maybe extra attacking speed? or maybe strength, or armor."

* Feet
* Hands

>>35117229
>she is benefiting from the tutelage at the mage college
this was supposed to be a question. I am asking if we ruined her mage career or not

>>35117457
I meant a hybrid dancer/healer

So it will have 3 hybrid classes but no "pure" classes.

>>35117457
>I AM going to make a hybrid dancer/wizard class in the future, as well as an hybrid wizard/healer class, but for now we only have dancer/thief
>I really really want to do that. Im just out of ideas on exactly how atm
Can we say that she is the dancer/wizard class, and that it is temporarily using the basic danger stats until that one is finished (at which point her stats get retconned)?
Heck, we don't even need to see her stats since so far we are power leveling her in timeskip not going into dangerous battle

>>35117500
Why not have classes "evolve" into better tier classes once certain conditions are met?

>>35117457
* Feet
for a dancer the feet are more important beside being able to dance faster is good.

Also for Dancer Wizard how about Rituakist or spell dancer for the name. I'm not sure about skills but maybe something give's elemental buffs or drains the opponents and buffs their party.

>>35117457
Hybrid Dance magic... so... Ritualist?

>>35117457
I really think we should consult lyann on this.
although the leg stuff sounds better.

also, QM, what do you think of my idea >>35117280 to use the sword MP drain ability on level 1 monsters to restore ourselves and our ally casters to have longer work days?

>>35117587
Why limit classes to one word?
Magic-dancer can be a class name.

>>35117526

It's fine. I mostly want her to be a form of caster that uses defensive maneuvers instead of armor, so going to give her low STR per level (which defines accuracy of melee attacks) but high DEx (evasion), Int and Cha.

Other than that, probably the ability to cast without interrupting her dance, and maybe one more dance to add to her dancer repertoire. Im thinking in one that drawins MP from enemies affected and feeds it to her.

Off the top of my head, as much MP drained as she has APP, but this effect is split evenly amonst all targets.

>>35117603
I agree, let Lyann tell us what she wants. Though you are right in that the feet enhancements seem to be better overall, more generally useful, especially movement speed. For to go fast and DOOOOODGE when the situation calls for it.

>>35117457
Feet

>>35117662
we could always use player meta input to decide what lyann wants.
that is
>Go get lyann
>Ask her what she wants
>Perspective shift, players vote on what Lyann chooses

>>35115300
Now that we confirmed that he is dad's buddy and here on dads behalf... and he claims that his womanizing was a show... do we rescind the order to not let him in the house?

Actually, we should ask him why it was even necessary to put on such a show in the first place?

>>35117728
>Actually, we should ask him why it was even necessary to put on such a show in the first place?
Dad explained why in his letter.

>>35117728
>do we rescind the order to not let him in the house?
No.

>>35117728
He can stay across the street.

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>>35117603
Its doable, but you still lose time traveling from one dungeon to the other and then back. You only have a few hours every evening. If you had the whole day to do it, sure, it would be possible

>>35117662
>DOOOOODGE
*GETS THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY*
Conditioned Reflex, dammit Pavlov

>>35117698
That seems fine with me, really

"Ah... feet, please"
"Alright, let me see... these are really nice, I see... I cannot say this is certain, but how does this sound? healing as she walks, extra movement speed, and a small bonus to dodging?"

***
Heal 1hp per feet. Walk 30", heal 30HP
+10" move speed per turn (from base 30)
+5 PDV and MDV
***

"That is, without any curses" ~he says~ "I am sure I could squeeze a LOT more out of them if you'd let me add a small curse or two"

***THIS IS AN EXAMPLE**
Has to stay within 100" of you = Permanent Regeneration (10% of max HP healed by turn)
***
"I... will have to go back to you on that"
"Alright. Here, have one of t-"
"Master, no!" ~Aura stands up on a rush
"It is alright"
"As your bodyguard, I must protest!"
"...do not make me lose face."
"I am sorry, Master"

Aura sits back on the bed. She was surprisingly cool when Okaba was talking with all the girls, and she was eating under the table, and looked quite happy to walk around the nomad campsite with us

"This is a personal keystone. It will let you come back to my side and then to one more location you are familiar with. No reason to walk over just to ask a question and then back here, I believe"
"Thank you. I won't abuse it."

* Go back home and talk with Lyann, then come back
* Other

>>35117457

>* Feet
Healing per step and faster movement speed is a good combo.

>>35117728

yeah, we should let him in. He's the only person close to getting raise dead, he has an interest in protecting us.

So he's a likely future member of the party and we shouldn't be a dick.

>>35118002
>* Other
Ask about other minor curses before leaving to discuss options with lyann.

then

>leave to talk to lyann and return

>>35118002
Check in with our slave girl as to what she wants and what types of curses, if any, she's comfortable with. And the hundred feet thing, would that be a compulsion or would it result in damage being done to her if she exits the radius? That's important, some trap could easily locate her outside that radius and I want to know the risks.

Also, glad to see you got the reference.

>>35118002
* Go back home and talk with Lyann, then come back

>>35118058
I'm >>35118088. I like this idea, we should know more about the kinds of bans that can be levied on her so she is more completely informed on this issue.

>>35117457
>I AM going to make a hybrid dancer/wizard class in the future
Dervish?

>>35118002
>* Go back home and talk with Lyann, then come back

>>35118002
>either talk to obaka about curses or bring lyann with you to obaka to discuss it.

>>35118002
>>35118058
Can't refuse a summons as a curse with them being on the ankle.

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>>35118058

Lets see...
To potentiate healing
Has to stay within 100" from you
Results in: 10% of max HP healed per turn

To potentiate dodging
Small chain between the ankles.
Results in +20 Extra Armor and SR without losing agility or move speed, but she can't disobey you (if you specify that she cant. For example, if you ask her to hand you a book she can say no. If you say "I order you to" then she cant)

To potentiate movespeed
Bells (large penalty to stealth)
Results in +30 move speed instead of +10

Those are the ones off the top of my head. If you guys suggest some and I think they work, Ill come up with a proper bonus

>>35118002
>* Go back home and talk with Lyann, then come back
I honestly don't think the curses are worth it... especially as we keep on finding cool items as an adventurer and power leveling.

>>35118217
I think the can't disobey thing would work. I mean, its not like she'd disobey anyway. And I'm sure that if we abused this power nothing on the planet could save us from mom's wrath.

>>35118217
>To potentiate dodging
>Small chain between the ankles.
>Results in +20 Extra Armor and SR without losing agility or move speed, but she can't disobey you (if you specify that she cant. For example, if you ask her to hand you a book she can say no. If you say "I order you to" then she cant)

this probably the best but let's ask Lyann first

>>35118280
PS. aside from the worthwhileness of it, I am also concerned from a status standpoint. she will be more at risk in society at large if she is walking around with cursed shackles, as those instantly brand her as a slave to all lookers.

>>35118313
Why would she be more at risk?

>>35118217>>35118313
I like all 3, and she's already wearing a collar.

Perhaps some type speech curse, must address Eldric as something formalish.

>>35118292
will it be locked to our orders though? what if someone gets us under mental effect and we order her to surrender? what if we unthinkingly give an order with an unintended consequence and it ends up harming her later on? (get X for me, X was stolen, she has to chase the thief, sees thief join his posse, has to attack 50 guys because she can't disobey, gets murdered)

>>35118280
Eh, you gotta think of ways to make the curse not a curse.
>>35118180
This could mean she always knows where you are.

>>35118350
>I like all 3, and she's already wearing a collar.
she isn't wearing a collar, we opted out on it.

>>35118339
Socially, being a lower class citizen (or in this case a non citizen but a slave) makes you far more vulnerable socially. Police might walk on by if you are attacked, people might discriminate against you, etc.

>>35118217
The bells are fine, and make a good combo with hp per foot.

the chains would make it hassle to wear all the time.

The stay within a hundred feet is problematic unless we take her with us everywhere. If we do that than we have to never leave her side or keep the bracelets in reserve and give them to her later.


I'd prefer bells, can't leave a hundred feet, can't lie to us(immune to poison and disease), can't give birth(stops aging), death curse( for whatever enhancements we can milk out of it). but also not giving it to her for several years.

maybe also something like 'cant wear heavy armor'=increased resistence to elements

or cant attack unprovoked or cant enter someones house without permission.

>>35118217
>To potentiate movespeed
>Bells (large penalty to stealth)
>Results in +30 move speed instead of +10
As far as curses go, this is the best one around.

>>35118339
Thieves see a woman walking down a dark ally with expensive jewelry. Jewelry is magic!
Jewelry doesn't come off
>Chop let off
now its off.

>>35118390
>Socially, being a lower class citizen (or in this case a non citizen but a slave) makes you far more vulnerable socially. Police might walk on by if you are attacked, people might discriminate against you, etc.
Not really. See, she could easily be the slave of someone important, who takes offense at disrespect to his property. For that matter, she IS the slave of someone important.

>>35118088
Compulsion
>>35118180
define summons. Magically teleporting a party member to yourself.... actually I guess that for a "slave" yeah it would count as a curse, normally. Would make escape impossible, for example

You try the stone, and teleport home, appearing on the enchanting platgorm outside.

You arent sure what would happen if you try to appear where someone else is, but since you are the only one using that platform, it should be safe. Plus you are very familiar with it.

Going into the house, you find Lyann playing with Athena on the first floor while Elli is cleaning your room.

"Lyann. listen..."
You explain things as best you can. She listens to you with a serious expression.
"Eldric... no, master eldric. I am grateful for the way you treat me... no, the way everyone treats me. Everyday, I am amazed by how smart and mature you are. I only wish I could you more. I feel like I am being just a burden, or even worse, just a drain on the kindness and resrources of your family. Your mother is very kind to me, as is Elli. I love everyone in this house. If you told me I could help you by having my feet cut off, I woild be alright with that. Now please don't ever ask me anything like this again, alright?" -she is shaking visibly as she sheds moon-sized tears down her pretty face.

Athena isin't sure on what's happening, but she hugs the redhead and tries talking to her in her baby speech.

You look at her for a bit. Obviously, you know she's quite smart. And even if you and mom and Elli told her she's your sister, she's been thinking of herself as your slave all this time.

You hug her as tightly as you can.

"Please let me help you. I want to be useful" -she says
"A-alright" -you teleport right away using the stone, so she doesnt sees you cry

>>35118351
The thing is like a command seal, not an evolved geass. The curse must be actively invoked, and we aren't the type that gives her orders but rather requests.

It does, however, open up an interesting option. If it is indeed similar to command seals, we could use it in dire situations by saying things like "I order you to hit that monster as hard as you possibly can" or "I order you to run away with me" to boost a parameter beyond what it is normally. If used in this capacity a curse may actually turn into a blessing that saves our mutual asses.

>>35118217
yes to the bells

no the chains.

enchant the hell out of that thing with every curse/enchantment we can think off. Add 6 cards to it on top of that. Then save it as a gift for when she's 18.

>>35118398
>but also not giving it to her for several years.
Can a curse be added after the fact? maybe we can use it non cursed now, and when she is old enough, THEN add the curse for the "ageless" buff

>>35118426
What in the world has made you think that KoAND will play gotcha like this?

>>35118445
It could be more in terms of she is compelled to reach you, the more urgent the summons is the faster she would try move up till an actual summoning. Could be a movement speed buff

>>35118429
>who takes offense at disrespect to his property.
but that would be vandalism, which isn't quite the same as assault.

>Oh her owner might be important and will be upset at damage to their property
is less a big deal than
>Oh her dad/mom might be important and will be upset at damage to their child

Also, another issue is that criminals are made into slaves, so there is that stigma as well.

>>35118398
Can't give birth? Dude, if we do get romantically involved with her at some point it'd suck to not be able to have kids. Also, "can't give birth" could bite you in the ass hard. Stuff like this has to be specific.

>>35118217
No curses please, we're not treating her as a slave so why give her slave curses.

>>35118491
>but that would be vandalism, which isn't quite the same as assault.
Right, it could be much worse, because hurting a nobles property is a far more serious crime than simply roughing up some peasants.. It is MUCH safer to abuse random peasants than Slaves with high quality shackles.

>>35118519
I am with this guy. no curses on principle.
all the curses do is basically save us a little money. and its not like we aren't making a ton with both our business AND our adventuring.

>>35118519
>>35118559
/tg/ whiteknighting even when the girl explicitly doesn't want to be whiteknighted.

>>35118557
Right, but they don't KNOW if someone is a peasant or a noble at a glance.
Remember that we were mistaken for a peasant by our adventuring party

>>35118559
They give a disproportionate bonus, and some of the curses can be skewed as bonuses as well.

>>35118445
Since lyann is going to wearing this for the rest of her life and she has given us permission for anything we might put on it...we should get it enchanted as strongly as we can.

Still against the chains...as a dancer or a fighter it'll restrict her agility. It'll also be pretty awkward.

I'd say, whatever enhancements he gave to aura plus whatever we can think of ourselves that won't cripple her.

can't ignore summons, can't lie to us, can't disobey orders, can't leave 100 feet, death curse, can't give birth(we can always have it removed for a year), can't attack humans except in self defense.

That should be worth alot of enchantments.

>>35118585
its not white knighting, it has nothing to do with her gender and everything to do with the fact that she is basically like family to us. You don't curse family to save a few bucks when you are rich.

>>35118602
So far the only curse that I have seen that is remotely acceptable is the bells one, which gives the awesome bonus to speed at a penalty to stealth

>>35118585
We'll start bringing her to the dungeons so that she won't feel useless.


To potentiate dodging
Small chain between the ankles.
Results in +20 Extra Armor and SR without losing agility or move speed, but she can't disobey you (if you specify that she cant. For example, if you ask her to hand you a book she can say no. If you say "I order you to" then she cant)

Also I prefer this for the curse and bunos

>>35118585
didn't we pass on getting cursed items for ourselves because we thought it wasn't worth it?

>>35118351
How is that any different thinking from
"what happens if I ask her to let me bite her chocolate and it turns out im allergic and I die?"

But, you have to specify "I order you to..." only then she cannot disobey

>>35118390
Depends on the place/city/society.

>>35118398
Those all sound fine

>>35118426
You can get stabbed for your watch just fine, even tho it would come off normally

>>35118449
>"I order you to run away"
Yeah, that could happen, but I wouldnt say it lets her go into superhuman. It would however mean that she has to give her best effort on it, tho

>>35118463
>Can a curse be added after the fact?
Sure
>Socially, being a lower class citizen (or in this case a non citizen but a slave) makes you far more vulnerable socially. Police might walk on by if you are attacked, people might discriminate against you, etc.


>>35118490
heh, I had already been alright with the teleport, but sure

>>35118627
those sound like pretty good ideas, actually. And it is "cannot get pregnant" not "cant give birth"

>>35118628
>. You don't curse family to save a few bucks when you are rich.

These curses can get you major artifact level enchantments. Things like not aging. That's not rich, that's 'more gold than the kingdom has' and 'people kill to get their hands on this stuff'. We're not getting our hands on anything like this until the end of our career if we don't use curse-enchantments.

You also have to look at intent. This is intended for her benefit, not to hobble her.

>>35118449
I order you to live your life in the best way you can think of. To work towards your happiness, and health

>>35118445
How come cursing items makes them more powerful? this seems rather odd, where is that extra power coming from? is it being drained from the victim? could it have long term negative effects?

>>35118693
get enchantments.

get all the enchantments. everything aura has and more. We'll save it until she's of age and until we enchant even further with 6 cards.

>>35118693
>How is that any different thinking from
>"what happens if I ask her to let me bite her chocolate and it turns out im allergic and I die?"
Its not different, it is an entirely legitimate danger
>Here, eat this
>She is allergic
>She can't disobey because of curse

>But, you have to specify "I order you to..." only then she cannot disobey
That is a huge mitigating factor, I was not aware of at the time.

>>35118733
It's like taking a character flaw to get more points for character generation.

...except for items.

The curses cover the cost of enchantments. bigger curse, more points for enchantment

>>35118398
>death curse
whoa, what?
death curse KILLS her the moment we die
why would you do this?

>can't give birth(stops aging)
this is going to be a big hassle if she ever wants to

>can't leave a hundred feet
huge hassle

>can't lie to us(immune to poison and disease)
acceptable, but I am leery of mental domination type effects.

>but also not giving it to her for several years.
curses can be piled on later

I don't care if she's okay with the slave curses, we've been treating her like family from day one and suddenly slapping on a bunch of curses that remind people that "hey, she's still our slave" for minor benefits just seems wrong.

>>35118785
But that flaw is a secondary effect, where does its energy come from?

>>35118629
Plus it ain't like the curse will ever be a problem. We have shown ourselves to be so exceedingly nice to our slave we don't even order her around. We ask, like, "would you please get that book over there". Ordering her around is damn near unthinkable at this point.

>>35118693
Yes! Command Seal strengthening option! Never expected a superhuman boost, just a kind of one. On the pregnancy one, if the girl is already pregnant, will it still allow normal development or we gonna have a stillborn problem.

>>35118726
Yeah, but command sealing that if she isn't already down for it is a bad thing. For instance, Waver burned his seals on Iskandar specifically knowing those were things he was already set to do no matter what anyone told him or whoever got in his way. He essentially willingly sacrificed them for nothing, doing so to "free" his servant more than anything else.

>>35118816
>can't give birth(stops aging)
You can remove cursed items, at a temple I think

>death curse
Defiantly don't want this as a curse

>>35118838
From the curse. Deal with it.

>>35118832
>I don't care if she's okay with the slave curses, we've been treating her like family from day one and suddenly slapping on a bunch of curses that remind people that "hey, she's still our slave" for minor benefits just seems wrong.
basically this

>>35118693
Strongly in favor of the compulsion curse.

>>35118851
so, can we curse random enemies to create a fountain of power for ourselves?

>>35118842
Yes, we probably won't ever actually use the curses, but once we add them the temptation to is there forever. And I know some anons will fall to it, because some people are actually like that.

>>35118832
So essentially her wants and desires don't matter to you?

>>35118885
heh...
>City is powered by slaves
>Slaves just sit in a pub wearing cursed items that produce massive amounts of free energy
most efficient renewable energy source get

The can't get pregnant as a curse is a great version of birth control for overbearing fathers to give to their daughters. When they marry them off the husband would remove it.

>>35118832
These are not minor benefits, you can get effects that you would never be able to achieve on your own.

These are also not specific to slaves, they can be worn by anyone.

lastly, cursed items can be removed. We aren't going to force it on her or stop her from going to a temple to get it removed if she wants.

>>35118816
>death curse KILLS her the moment we die
>why would you do this?
We were never planning on letting either of us die. So it's not really relevant.

I'm fine with expanding the distance(maybe a mile?) but if she's also at our side, which she seems inclined to, then she'll likely die when we do anyways. Since whatever situation managed to kill us and she's weaker than us.

>>35118885
In theory, possibly. That would require a linked enchantment with multiple people

>>35118903
Her wants and desires are to be usefull to us. That can be perfectly accomplished without needlessly slapping curses on her.

>>35118927
I see how the death curse and the proximity one go hand in hand.

If we are using them I prefer we get both or not at all.

>>35118911
The problem you face is the type of energy we're talking here. The curse may provide a kind of energy, but if it's only use is to cover the cost of higher enchantments through curses then it's useless to others. And a curse that generates electricity would be something you'd never want to put on a person if you're a good guy. Who the fuck wants to be tazed 24/7?

>>35118947
How are the curses needless? They are extreamly powerful, and the only reason I can see not to put some of them on are either paranoid stories the QM has openly disarranged or a desire to not treat her like a slave. Which, as far as I can tell she wants to be treated like.

>>35118903
Her wants and desires isn't to have curses, its to please us.
You can respond to this sentiment with "it would please me to do bad things to you" and she won't complain because she loves us that much
Or you can respond with not abusing her trust and not mistreating her.

I'm not seeing a problem here except with practicality.

We asked permission and she gave it. We aren't going to screw her over.

I guess the only thing that's going to convince some of you is lyann going up to obaka and saying 'put whatever on it'.

Even those it's clear that she would die if she thought it would help us. We won't ask for that because we care for her, but she still gave us permission and won't resent whatever curses we put on it.

>>35118979
Also there might be a more efficient way to generate power without even involving people.

>>35118927
>We were never planning on letting either of us die.
It can still happen, especially with the violent lifestyle we lead.

We could fall in battle, with her 10 ft from us, and she could survive that same battle and live on...
or she could die instantly from the curse.

Also the 100 ft thing? how is she going to go to classes? she won't be taking the same classes as us forever you know.

>>35119006
>You can respond to this sentiment with "it would please me to do bad things to you" and she won't complain because she loves us that much
>Or you can respond with not abusing her trust and not mistreating her.
I fail to see how this is relevant. We aren't mistreating her by any stretch of the imagination.

>>35118989
>How are the curses needless? They are extreamly powerful, and the only reason I can see not to put some of them on are either paranoid stories the QM has openly disarranged or a desire to not treat her like a slave. Which, as far as I can tell she wants to be treated like.
I would remind you that the vote was 5 to 1 in favor of NOT getting cursed items for ourselves.

>>35119067
>I fail to see how this is relevant. We aren't mistreating her by any stretch of the imagination.
excuse me, some guys want to slap a fucking DEATH CURSE on her where the curse slays her the moment we die.
also, how do we explain the death curse to mom? remember how proud mom was when we rejected the death curse collar when we bought her?

>>35118733
Curses are much more persistent and powerful than normal enchantments. They are basically being used as batteries, so the extra power comes from the curse itself

Anyway, I think we are wasting a lot of time discussing this, and most people are okay with using at least the bells and the distance thing,

>>35118785
Right

Lets see... -50 to stealth, but +30 speed
100" feet "leash" but constant regeneration
must obey "direct orders worded as such", but gets +20 Armor and SR (basically subtracts 20 points of damage from any and all sources)

May or may not place extra enchantments and curses on them in 5-6 years, but for now this is it, right?
>>35118885
If you get them to wear a cursed item, sure. But thats honestly pretty normal BBEG territory

***
You appear in Okaba's room, rubbing your eyes dry.
He doesn't says anything, and in fact pretends not to notice, waiting for you to talk to him instead

After a while, you are calm enough to talk with him.
He listens to you calmly, and then nods.

"It will take me about 6 days or so. About that death curse... I have an idea"
"I don't think I want to hear it."
"Are you sure? I believe we could use it for an auto raise spell. It is powerful enough"
"Uh... so if she gets killed..."
"The "curse" would revive her so she can continue to be useful to you"
"How often?"
"I... don't know. I imagine once a day, perhaps."
"But if she has already used that, and then I died"
"Yes, she would die"
"Pass."
"Alright."

*Aura coughs*

"Ah... that sounds like a really good idea, master"
"No, I'm not placing a death curse on you"
"But..."
"Young Eldric has a point. So no"

1/2

>>35119057
>We could fall in battle, with her 10 ft from us, and she could survive that same battle and live on...
>or she could die instantly from the curse.
then it's game over and we see how horribly depressed she is from losing the person she loves in epilogue. Assuming she wouldn't trade her life for ours to stop us from dying. which she would. So a death curse wouldn't make her significantly more likely to die.

>Also the 100 ft thing? how is she going to go to classes? she won't be taking the same classes as us forever you know.

by not giving it to her until we go adventuring.

>>35119122
>100" feet "leash" but constant regeneration
What, NO! now she cannot attend half her classes in school anymore!

>>35118693
I would just like to say I am fine with cursed gear if we avoid the 100 foot chain and the death thing....we aren't killing our lil dancer just cause we went and did something stupid

>>35119122
>Anyway, I think we are wasting a lot of time discussing this
Probably should have called a vote.

>>35119134
>then it's game over and we see how horribly depressed she is from losing the person she loves in epilogue.
yes, she is sad, but continues to be there for mom and sister and ellie who all love her and she loves them, and our family has to deal with 1 loss instead of 2 losses at once.

>then it's game over
That is way too OOC meta thing to say

>>35118989
She doesn't want too be treated like a slave, where did you get that from. All she said was that she'd readily accept it if we did, which we have shown multiple times we do NOT want to.

>>35119080
>I would remind you that the vote was 5 to 1 in favor of NOT getting cursed items for ourselves.
There was never a vote on getting eldric cursed items except for buying one at the market to practice enchantment.

I, for one, don't wouldn't mind eldric getting a few bans if it gave him agelessness, immunity to poison and disease, and resistance to mind effects.

Seriously, I think it's a good idea as long as you're careful about which curse is powering your item.

and this is why i dent want her as a slave

>>35119185
Her guilt from how we are treating her? Oh, and this:
>And even if you and mom and Elli told her she's your sister, she's been thinking of herself as your slave all this time.
Seriously, if she didn't want to be a slave she'd just ask to be free. She's rather smart, she'd know the request would be instantly granted.

>>35119122
Can a curse ever be removed from an item. I believe people wanted to go with the Dune job line and that one relies on stealth. So we can remove the stealth killing curse if we do that right?

>>35119246
More probably, we can just make her another item with a different curse set.

>>35119134
Do you not realize that if we die in a fight, Lyann could escape with our body and get us a Raise?
That in an RPG world, so long as it's not a TPK, it's not game over? And you would throw away any chance of that for a bonus that could be acquired through other means.

>>35119134
>by not giving it to her until we go adventuring.
so she's not going to use this during the years we have left here at the college, which requires dungeon diving into the college dungeon?

>>35119134
>by not giving it to her until we go adventuring.
cursed items cannot be removed, except for through a ritual performed by a priest, which costs money and time.

She is 11, we are 8, we have YEARS of classes to go. we are both attending wizard college AND going on dungeon crawls

We promised we would start taking her with us on dungeon crawls starting with our second year

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>>35119143
I do not like the leash but I can live with it just sayin

>>35119122
I think 'cant lie to eldric', 'can't attack humans except in self defense', 'can't attempt stealth or hiding'

would be bans that are moderately powerful and can be agreed to not be evil or abusive.

i'd also like 'cant get pregnant' for agelessness. I want my immortal hero party...

Not like it can't be removed for a couple years if they want to settle down.

wouldn't mind eldric getting a cursed item either.

>>35119163
people would have samefagged and voted like mad for their opinion
>>35119246
I imagine so, if you also lose the bonus, of course. And it would probably take some doing. Its not an on/off button, its more like taking a engine apart and removing some parts
>>35119122
You go back to your house. Lyann is in the garden, practicing her own magic.

"Lyann, I'm back"
"Welcome back" ~softly. She looks at you timidly for a bit
"Are you mad with me?"
"No... I just thought you knew my feelings"
"I'm not a mind reader"
"I know..."
"If you are ever unhappy about anything, anything, which I say or do, tell me, please"
"..." ~she looks at you for a bit~ "Alright"
"You promise?"
"Yes. I promise"
"And don't call me master again"
"Yes, master"
"Lyann!"

She pokes her tongue at us and makes an ugly face. She seems alright now. For an evening at least, we play with her as children.

Elli watches from the window, sighs, smiles, and goes off to prepares us some treats for dinner

A few weeks pass by, and the new semester is starting. Now you can go into the school dungeon with Lyann whenever you want.

Do you want to part ways with Grummir, Miiyau and Ardkill? or invite them to come with you?

I assume we can just breeze through the first floors since the monsters will be very low level

>>35119372
fuck immortality only pussies afraid to die look for that shit

>>35119372
>can't attack humans except in self defense
really bad limitation
there are some really bad humans out there.

If we choose to attack some humans, as long as they don't attack her she can't help us fight them

>>35119389
They are more then welcome to come with.

>>35119389
Invite our regular dungeon party.
They probably don't get a chance normally to experience the college dungeon.

>>35119389
I honestly hope she keeps calling us master despite our insistence

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>>35119399
>only pussies afraid to die look for that shit
Damn straight! Usually has some grisly price associated with it like becoming undead or having to eat people's souls. Not worth it. Besides, dying is the last great mystery. What lies beyond death? Only one way to find out.

>>35119457
Although they will find out our true age.

>>35119295
>Do you not realize that if we die in a fight, Lyann could escape with our body and get us a Raise?
dungeons absorb bodies of adventurers, animals turn right into rations upon getting caught in a trap.
Not convinced this is a possibility.

It's also a very large bonus, that is very very difficult and expensive to acquire by other means.>>35119327
>so she's not going to use this during the years we have left here at the college, which requires dungeon diving into the college dungeon?
a dungeon for students that wouldn't require her to have high end magical equipment to survive. It would also take us time to gather cards for enchantment. So no, and it wouldn't endanger her survival to not have the bracelet right away.

>>35119337
>We promised we would start taking her with us on dungeon crawls starting with our second year
you've misunderstood. I meant adventuring as in 'leave town to quest'.

Not giving her the bracelet until she comes of age won't prevent us from taking her into the school dungeons.

>>35119372
>i'd also like 'cant get pregnant' for agelessness.
>Not wanting to get our QT pregnant

>>35119122
Oh gee, those three curses really are needless. We could have easily achieved those bonuses through other means.

>>35119389
> invite them to come

>>35119502
>Not keeping her at childbirth age for a long time, not just removing it each time we want a child.

>>35119461
Its Aura's influence.

>>35119491
>Not giving her the bracelet until she comes of age won't prevent us from taking her into the school dungeons.
ok see, that is silly for another reason

it takes some time, but curses can be added/removed after the fact. it would be stupid to spend all this time effort and money on it now, and only give it to her in 5 years.

use it now without the tethered curse, then once she graduates you can consider it... although i still think it is a really bad idea to have tethered as a curse

>>35119502
go to priest hey can you remove this please 9 months later put it back on

>>35119517
we actually have, the tethered thing is an upgrade to regen speed we had without a curse, the speed boost is an upgrade to the speed boost we had without the curse (base speed is 30, +10, curse adds another +20)

>>35119491
I would imagine they absorb the bodies if the bodies are left there long enough, like they would be in a TPK. Sans a TPK the survivor could mount an expedition to retrieve the bodies of his fallen comrades.

Of course, other murderhobos expect payment for this service. The more dangerous it is to retrieve the bodies, they more they will want. So you still want to avoid this situation if at all possible, your surviving buddy may not have the bank to come save your ass.

>>35119517
Not as powerful you couldn't. That is kinda the point of the curses.

>>35119597
oh and the damage reduction is also a boost (uncursed is 5 damage reduction, cursed is 20)

>>35119389
>people would have samefagged and voted like mad for their opinion
4chan prevents duplicate votes. so if they only make a single digit post, it can't be repeated for 5 minutes.

example: 5minute time limit, only post the number of your vote or it doesn't count.

1 -yes
2 -no

proper vote
1

>>35119399
>fuck immortality only pussies afraid to die look for that shit
Or wizards who want more time to research the mysteries of the universe.

We're not playing a hotblooded berserker. I don't think any adventurer who wasn't looking forward to death would refuse. There would be things they'd be willing to die for, but they wouldn't refuse continued life unless it required an untenable sacrifice.

>>35119468
>some grisly price associated with it like becoming undead or having to eat people's souls. Not worth it.
In this case the 'grisly price' is abstaining from having children until you decide to go to a temple to get your cursed item removed. Then you can even put it back on until you decide to have your next child.

>>35119651
To "stop aging" is not to be immortal. You essentially gain "timeless body". You no longer degrade or age on the surface, but you will still die of natural causes at the end of your natural lifespan.

There is a key, large difference between the two concepts that has to be bridged somehow. Merely giving up children isn't enough to gain true immortality, that demands a higher cost.

>>35119468
>What lies beyond death? Only one way to find out.
We DID die already, and we DID find out what lies beyond death, and this is a pretty nice world to stay in.
Or do you want to become a Nestle chocolate plantation slave just to see what it's like?

>>35119502
>>Not wanting to get our QT pregnant
>Not understanding that cursed items can be removed.>>35119533
>Not keeping her at childbirth age for a long time, not just removing it each time we want a child.

Or you could just keep it on forever. Or use the extra time to research a better route to immortality. Or enjoy the extra time until you decide it's your time.

Unlike 'cursed' versions of immortality, this is a lot more flexible.

>>35119468
You know, you'd think that if ANYONE was unafraid of death, it would be the guy that died and was reborn with his memories so he knows death is not the end.

Also, should have mentioned things like
-5 Dex +10 Str
-5 Str +10 Dex
Not at the same time, of course. And maybe there would be a hard limit to how many of those one can have. 3?

Anyway
***

We lock the ankle cuffs around Lyann's ankles as we prepare to go into the dungeon with Grummir, Miiyau and Ardkill

"It is nyace to myaet you, nya!"
"L-likewise" ~Lyann is distracted looking at Miiyau's ears
"So, this be the girl for whom the anklets were, uh? I feel I can be proud of my work, then!"
"Nice to meet you" ~says Ardkill

Lyann is a bit taken back. Everyone is a dungeon veteran but her. In fact, for her it is the first time she's ever gone into one

"N-nice to meet you. P-please take care of me!"
"Of course, nya!"

And thus, you took Lyann into her first dungeon.

***
Do you want her to be a thief, dancer or wizard for this? as thief, can steal loot from still living monsters. As wizard, can add damage, and as dancer can cast debuffs and makes the enemy softer just by being around.

>>35119491
>a dungeon for students that wouldn't require her to have high end magical equipment to survive
That's only for the upper levels where the monsters won't give us XP any more because they're too low level.
The college dungeon hasn't been fully mapped because the lower levels get progressively more dangerous.

>>35119695
>To "stop aging" is not to be immortal. You essentially gain "timeless body". You no longer degrade or age on the surface, but you will still die of natural causes at the end of your natural lifespan.
perhaps that's the wrong word then. But it's still the best that eldric has access too. and would give the most time to expand his art and influence the world.

It's not the immortality of lich, but it doesn't have the downsides either.

>>35119723
Wizard-dancer hybrid

>>35119651
limited time to research is he only reason people strive to do amazing feats of talents and the the mysteries of the universe should stay just that whats life with out the unknown

>>35119723
Let her be a dancer, she needs to see how a dungeon works before getting into the more active roles.

>>35119723
Well with that -50 stealth curse you guys just HAD to get, being a Thief is right out.

>>35119695
>To "stop aging" is not to be immortal. You essentially gain "timeless body". You no longer degrade or age on the surface, but you will still die of natural causes at the end of your natural lifespan.
that is how it works in dnd
but in most setting to stop aging means "no max age, you live until something kills you".
of course, that isn't immortality. since you can still be killed via violence, accident, disease, etc

>>35119723
>Dancer

>>35119782
good point, ha

>>35119723
>You know, you'd think that if ANYONE was unafraid of death, it would be the guy that died and was reborn with his memories so he knows death is not the end.


I agree, but I also think he's enjoying life and would to make sure he gets as much time with his loved ones and honing his art as possible.

>>35119723
Dancer, she needs to get used to this before we promote her to other roles. Still, what are the theif levels for. Are we going for courtesan or are they required for the mamluk line?

>>35119723
Has she gotten to level 10 as Dancer? If so, switch her to Thief.
If she still hasn't gotten to Level 10, stick to Dancer.

I'd like to go Mamluk, but we don't have the right equipment yet.

>>35119651
Oh I didint know about that, thanks for letting me know. Will doubtlessly use this info in the future.

>>35119695
this guy is correct

>>35119700
Oh you read the article uh? after reading it I cant buy nestlé shit anymore

>>35119751
Uhmm... im alright with it if the others are

>>35119782
Thieves dont do stealth here, they loot still living opponents. If you want stealth you need to go ranger

>>35119819
yup

Alright, so dancer/wizard hybrid? or thirf to unlock Courtesan? also, any name suggestions for the dancer/wizard hybrid? honestly naming its probably the hardest part. You know, needs me to be creative instead of just worrying about mechanics

Anyway, I think >>35119842 is right. Lets go with dancer for a bit

>>35119723
>You know, you'd think that if ANYONE was unafraid of death, it would be the guy that died and was reborn with his memories so he knows death is not the end.
The problem with this is that for the vast majority of people, death means the erasing of all their memories. and mental capacity, and starting over from scratch.
You now know that there is no heaven, you will just reincarnate, and almost certainly lose all memories of both lives and mental faculties, which is a death of personality, which is bad

>>35119723
Dancer please

>>35119877
>Oh I didint know about that, thanks for letting me know. Will doubtlessly use this info in the future.
it isn't foolproof, it checks for IP
it is possible (but time consuming) to change your IP for most people, as well as use their phone to vote
so realistically, a cheater will get 2 - 4 votes in.

Not to mention the ability to try to add a space after the 1

also, the block for posting duplicate posts is for exactly 5 minutes. so you need everyone to be prepared to vote fast, and have a cutoff of 4 minutes 59 seconds

>>35119877
>>Wizard-dancer hybrid
>Uhmm... im alright with it if the others are
oh sweet!
vote for it ppl

>>35119842
Courtesan, because Courtesan has the ability to steal Accessories.

Thief, till level 10 so we can work towards unni

>>35119877
>yup
appreciate if you could clarify, since we've been arguing over this.

...would a cursed item that extended the lives of himself and his loved ones be something that eldric is interested in.

>>35119877
the wizard/dancer hybrid you can call it spirit-dancer

>>35119877
We can do Dancer for this run, but we should get Thief, powerlevel it, get a level of Courtesan, then go the Dune line.

The main reason we didn't go Mamluk was because we didn't have the right equipment for Lyann.

>>35119877
>dancer/wizard hybrid
dancer-mage?
mesmerizer?
a name of a specific type of dancer? like, tap-dancer = fighter/dancer hybrid, ballet = thief/dancer hybrid, etc?

Grummir walks right in, followed by Miiyau and Ardkill.
You look back, and see that Lyann is standing still, hugging her dancing silks.

She is obviously scared and nervous.

You stretch her hand to her, and smile.
She looks at you for a bit, and takes a deep breath, then walks over to you, and holds your hand, following you into the dungeon.

Of course, your party just mows down the first few floors.
Low level monsters don't even slow them down.
It's a bit of an issue on floor 1, since Miiyau keeps hogging ALL THE YARN from the zenites

The floor 2 has kobolds
Floor 3 is goblins
Floor 4 is red kobolds
Floor 5 is a bit more interesting, with giant, colorful caterpillars.

Grummir just rams things against the walls, while Miiyau and Ardkill shoot bolts and stones at them.

Lyann gives them a -20 to defense, so your party members are pretty much bound to hit unless they are really, REALLY unfortunate against these low level monsters.

"Hey, that last boss dropped a half decent staff. Do you guys want to farm it?"

The last boss was a LVL 6 PAN, a large sized satyr that uses sleep magic.

*Farm it
*Keep going

>>35119988
>Theif

>>35120029
>Thief
>Dune

we just gave her a -50 penalty to stealth curse

>>35120075
farm

>>35120090
>>35119877
>>35119782
Thieves dont do stealth here, they loot still living opponents. If you want stealth you need to go ranger

farm

>>35119940
I still want to call for a vote.

>>35120090
Thief doesn't use Stealth.
As for Fedaykin, it's far enough along that we can get something with +50 Stealth item, or we take that curse off.
Fedaykin is the only one in the Dune line that uses Stealth, and it's the top Job.

>>35120075
*Farm it

>>35119877
Dervish for name?

>>35120075
*Keep going
Come on, let's farm the Level 10 Boss instead.

>>35120075
>*Keep going


also, since I don't know if you saw it...

>...would a cursed item that extended the lives of himself and his loved ones be something that eldric is interested in.

or even just getting a cursed item to strengthen himself in general...

>>35120075
i just noticed this but did you name the catgirl meow
also farm it

Guys, the 12G Staff that was on the Auction House was from the 10th Level Boss.

This 6th Level Boss is probably dropping junk in comparison.

>>35120075
>*Keep going

>>35120075
I'm from >>35120135
Changing vote to Keep Going.

>>35120075

Keep going.

It seems to be easy enough to farm with just the 2 of you at level 6 in a bit. Deeper will have better farmables.

>>35120075
has Lyann leveled already?

>>35119988
>appreciate if you could clarify, since we've been arguing over this.
I think he's right. Even if you know that death is not the end, you'd want to stay alive and enjoy your family and friends

>>35120018
That sounds sorta shamanistic, which is okay, buts its more of a dancer/divine caster

>>35120135
To be entire honest with you guys, I always planned to go sort of Suikoden or FFT, getting a large "Adventuring Company" with lots of friends/adventurers so we can get a lot of people and send them on missions later.

So we will get more nobles, more vilagers, more slaves. No need to have the few people we have right now do everything.

>>35120166
I dont think anyone would be uninterested on it

>>35120176
yes, yes I did

Anyway
>>35120176
>>35120135
>>35120118
>>35120109

Farm ++++
>>35120166
>>35120158
Move on++

You back up. The boss has respawned already
It is a large satyr.
Minotaur sized, really
Last time everyone just rammed it down
It was pretty easy since Lyann lowers its defenses by 20 points, and as a level 5 monster, it doesnt has much on the way of defenses to begin with

This time, you decide to switch to your sword, to quickly recover mana, while Lyann uses her slow step dance to lower its move speed all the way down to 5

A monster that was meant to run around casting spells, is not moving a single step per turn.

Its pretty unfair

Someone roll 1d1000

>>35120075
Time for plowing on through, Lyann needs to build some confidence.

Rolled 355 (1d1000)

>>35120339
>Someone roll 1d1000

Rolled 408 (1d1000)

>>35120339

Rolled 403 (1d1000)

>>35120339

>The people of the world are aware of the fact that they have levels and jobs.
>Priests at churches can change a person's job from one thing to another for them
>We know things that aren't common knowledge

can we spend some time looking up info on the subject so we can find out what differs between our knowledge and the common populace?
for example, do they know the description of their job like we do?
do they know about their ability scores?
we know already that they do not know about bonus points

Rolled 393 (1d1000)

>>35120339

>>35120364
Crystal Pumps (0 slots)
A pair of feminine high heeled shoes made of fine crystal. Usually, these are worn only on special occasions.
Appearance + 10, SR +5
Worth 1g

>>35120364
Googles (1 slot)
A pair of goggles designed for pilots in order to reduce vision impairment when travelling at very high speeds.
Worth 600s

>>35120380
Fedora (1 slot)
A trendy hat whose design is based on the old style hats that used to be worn by men enlisted in the military.
Worth 600s

>>35120381
Mirror Shield (1 slot)
A shield with a surface constructed of mirror that might reflect harmful magic.
Armor +5 / SR + 5
Worth 1g 200s

Pick one

>>35120549
Fedora

We gonna rock it.

>>35120549
Mirror Shield
Lyann will need it when she switches to Mamluk.

>>35120549
do you mean pick which one we got from killing this boss this time

or do you mean all 4 dropped when we farmed him 4 times, and we are picking which one woudl be our share?
because I would just sell all of those, maybe carding those we can first

>>35120549
>Mirror Shield

>>35120549
>Fedora (1 slot)
we need a headpiece to enchant with a incubus card while we put a succubus card in our remaining card slot.

>>35120580
our head slot is used up by the 6 slotted crown already
speaking of, have we enchanted the crown with the succubus, incubus, and kobold yet?

>>35120549
mirror shield and Crystal pumps for lyann

>>35120406
>for example, do they know the description of their job like we do?
They have a pretty good idea infered through centuries of observation
>do they know about their ability scores?
no

Fedora ++
Shield ++

>>35120603
which one we got from killing the boss. None of them are game changing so I dont mind letting you guys choose
It is a lvl 5 monster after all

>>35120626
Not yet. We can get Grummir to do it if you want

But its pretty late, my eyes are getting tired. Lets stop here for today. Ill try and type in the dancer/wizard tomorrow early so its ready for the thread

Take care guys