>>35268387
>Blast Yurei's frozen prison open, and both of you can make a crazed run for it.
I... I guess?

>>35268387
> Blast Yurei's frozen prison open, and both of you can make a crazed run for it.

>>35268485
Let's not guess, perhaps there is a solution here we're not seeing.

Fenris is a representation of Ice. Kylie Griffin managed to wrangle him and use him to push Surt back into the cointainment unit, as surt represented fire the two forces exploded.

In any event, Fenrir isn't making a move to attack us. We make a move, he likely will as well. So we better decided why we'd be moving and what are we planning to do.

>>35268541
Okay, I'll be generous, give me a spot check.

> Roll 1d20

Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>35268557

>>35268387
>> Other

Negotiate?

Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>35268557
Generous you say. Not after I ghost roll.

>>35268584
GOD

DAMMIT

ANON!

We had a 14!

Rolled 15 (1d20)

>>35268557

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>>35268584
Oh my.

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Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>35268584
That doesn't even surprise me. I feel like a battered wife.

>>35268598
That's why it really isn't that generous to let us roll dice. It's even worse than normal critical failure.

Now all we know now is that there probably IS something we should spot, and we're not fucking going to be able to do that.

>>35268675
Like for instance, are all the frozen ghosts and Fenrir located within the tower?

>>35268584
You notice that there are two frozen ice prisons that are different than the others.

Firstly, they're larger.

Secondly, the ice is black, and there's that Red PKE crackling around them. So, unlike the others, it'll probably take more than just a single blast to open them.

One prison holds a short, humanoid figure in a black robe, he is hairless, and his skin is shock white. He's holding what could either be a blowgun or a flute.

The other, is a sphinx. You know enough to know what a lion with a female human face is.

You also notice that, right behind Yurei's prison is a woman with long blonde hair. She isn't as heavily trapped as the others, but you can't free her without blasting THROUGH Yurei, and hurting her.

You can maybe free the other two...but you aren't sure if you can get them free before Fenrir gets to you.

> Try to free the Sphinx.
> Try to free the white-skinned humanoid.
> Try to free the blonde woman. This WILL hurt Yurei...but you can apologize to her later.
> Free Yurei and run for it.
> Other

Unrelated, but Fenris is here this area must be linked to Central.

Where it possible, and not probably the most dangerous option of all to head directly towards Fenris' reinforcements and masters, it'd be interesting to exit through Central's containment unit airlock and pop out in New York.

>Sphinx
That isn't the same Sphinx that turned new yorkers into drooling wrecks is it?

>White-skinned humanoid with something in his hand
Thought it was the pied piper at first, both were really pale, but the piper had hair.

>woman with long blonde hair
Syren?

Hey I wonder if the manifestation of Watson and Sherlock Holmes is around here.

>>35268837
>Free Yurei and run for it.

>>35268972
>>White-skinned humanoid with something in his hand

Don't think XGB, think original series and JMS.

>>35268837
...So what, does the ghost roll just mean we saw a bunch of things we don't want to free?

I kind of feel like just freeing Yurei is still our best option, so that did the opposite of help.

>>35269014
That's not necessarily true, remember it's been stated they are here because they didn't show the same hatred towards the GB the rest did.

>>35269061
Or maybe, they are here because they tried to take over the place.
>>35268837

Still I feel
>Free Yurei and run for it.
is the best plan

>>35269011
I dunno about JMS, but in the original cartoon the Sandman fits the description.

http://ghostbusters.wikia.com/wiki/Sandman
>Short
>Humanoid
>Black Robe
>hairless
>White Skin
>Blowgun (sand blower)

He wasn't evil. . .just, misguided. He wanted everyone to sleep and dream a better dream I think.

>>35269011
The Sandman? I guess he could come in handy if he could be convinced to help us and if ghosts can sleep.

>>35269130
Yeah, he wanted to end all war and pain by putting everyone to sleep for 500 years in a dreamworld, maybe where they could resolve their differences.

But who are the other two then?

>>35269125
>>35269130
Free the Sandman. Our best bet at getting out of here is him putting Fenrir to sleep.

>>35269160
Or he puts us to sleep.

Then again, we ARE wearing a special ecto-hazard suit, so his sand shouldn't be able to get to us!

Yeah, get the sandman.

>>35268972
>Watson and Sherlock Holmes
Yes, please.
>>35269160
I dunno. Things have went awry in here when we assume.

>>35268837
>Enter Sandman
Exit light, enter night.

>>35269234
Well, we're wearing a suit at least so he won't be able to make us sleep unless our suit is breached.

If our suit is breached we're dead anyway.

Nevermind valhalla, if we die we're not gonna see the outside of this containment unit till the judgement day.

>>35269312
If we don't get out and help the others, that will be sooner than it seems.

>>35268837
> Try to free the white-skinned humanoid.

>>35269160
>>35269206
>>35269244

You recognize the pale humanoid from the case files from Central. That's the Sandman, or A Sandman at least. Either way, he wasn't listed as aggressively hostile, as far as ghosts went, and he probably doesn't want to be trapped in that block of ice. You hope.

Sadly, it looks like someone had the same fear and took precautions. Hence the black ice and red PKE field.

> Just try a regular proton blast. It's quick, it's powerful, and if you're lucky it'll break it open before Fenrir reacts.
> Try a boson dart. It's not as quick, and there's collateral damage risk, but it has a LOT of punch.
> See if slime does the trick. You never know, Posi-slime can have some really dramatic reactions.
> Other

>>35269413
>See if slime does the trick. You never know, Posi-slime can have some really dramatic reactions.
Slime does have a really good track record with us.

>>35269413
>See if slime does the trick
Let's get Nickelodeon up in this bitch

>>35269430
Slime is a sponge that soaks up everything around it.

We do that, we better hope ours is more positively charged that how negatively charged the glowing black PKE ice is. . .in the containment unit.

Damned if we didn't supercharge the stuff by soaking up the vibes from the Youkai party.

>>35269413
>See if slime does the trick. You never know, Posi-slime can have some really dramatic reactions.
Can't risk hurting Yurei.

>>35269413
>See if slime does the trick. You never know, Posi-slime can have some really dramatic reactions.
Boson dart is tempting, but we might break out someone else we didn't/wouldn't want.

>>35269469
I don't doubt that there may be people in here we wouldn't want to break out, but I'm wondering if there isn't a significant number who we would.

Thankfully collateral damage in this case amounts to giving someone a really bad ouchy, but you can't kill what's already dead. . .or never alive in the first place.

Well, without something big like say, total protonic reversal.

>>35269413
>Try a boson dart. It's not as quick, and there's collateral damage risk, but it has a LOT of punch.
Isn't that good? The more ghosts we free, the bigger the distraction.

>>35269460
You draw your wand and spray slime at the crystal holding the Sandman.

> Roll 1d20

Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>35269549

Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>35269549
3 2 1, let's jam.

Rolled 17 (1d20)

>>35269549
This is going to go g-

>>35269586
Welp.

Rolled 2 (1d20)

>>35269586
It's just one of those days

>>35269586
I didn't even have to roll this time, and yet the outcome was guaranteed.

Unless, seeing as what happened last time we rolled a 4, ghost rolls are actually good here or something?

Probably not.

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>>35269586
If we become a ghost, do we get to use ghost rolls as crit successes?

>>35269586
Well, there's a reaction, but it happens the second that the slime hits the PKE charged 'air' of the Containment Unit.

You are exactly sure if it was an explosive, inflammatory, concussive, anti-matter, or reconstructive reaction.

All you DO know is that there was a LOUD sound, and then you got knocked to the ground, HARD.

> Roll 1d20

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>35270008

Rolled 1 (1d20)

>>35270008
We're screwed.

Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>35270008
I know i'm gonna get screwed but still...

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>35270008
If we die, can they put us in the RX-78?

>>35270027
Okay, so it looks like your suit is still holding steady. Also, better news, it looks like Fenrir got hit with that blast as well. It's dazed. Not for long, as it's already shaking its head free, but you've got a moment to try and break the Sandman free again.

> Proton Stream
> Boson dart.
> Change plans, get Yurei, get out.
> Other

>>35270145
>Boson Dart
Cause I'm TNT!

>>35270145
>Change plans, get Yurei, get out.

This is terrible plan. We need go.

>>35270145
> Change plans, get Yurei, get out.

>>35270145
> Proton Stream

>Other
Fenrir is dazed, we have some time to hit him with the stasis stream.

>>35270181
>Icing an ice creature
Yeah, that'll work.

>>35270181
Would that work on it?

>>35270201
>Ice
It's like you didn't pay attention to Egon at all.

>>35270145
>Boson dart.
Maybe it'll stun Fenrir again and free some other prisoners? I have no idea.

>>35270145
Proton Stream

>>35270145
> Boson dart
Boson darts are meant for this kind of job.

>>35270205
It's NOT a "cold-beam" or a "freeze-ray". It is a particle stream of darkmatter that will light normal matter and walls on fire. However, due to it's nature it also soaks up PKE and strips it away, causing the remaining ecto-plasm to crystalize and solidify.

Granted, this air is so hyper charged with PKE and likely saturated with ectoplasm/slime it'd probably just crystalize midair.

>>35270145
> Boson dart.

>>35270145
>Boson dart.
Forget caution. Let's go madcap. How many more 4s can we roll?

>>35270269
Aside from 'all of them', I like this plan. I'm glad to be a part of it, let's do it!

You point your neutrino-wand at the crystals, centering on the Sandman's crystal, and you fire off a Boson Dart.

> Roll 3d6, highest roll plays

Rolled 4, 5, 1 = 10 (3d6)

>>35270335
Oh you evil man, let's do this.

Rolled 6, 2, 5 = 13 (3d6)

>>35270335
Let's get dangerous.

Rolled 5, 1, 1 = 7 (3d6)

>>35270335

Rolled 4, 1, 2 = 7 (3d6)

>>35270335
Let's try

>>35270354
Your world fills with searingly bright light and noise.
CRASH! Tinkle...tinkle....
You hear Fenrir roar...and then a fwooosh! And a semi-whimpering sound and a dull THUD.

You blink as your vision returns and you see the Sandman standing over an unconscious Fenris. His eyes narrow at you and he frowns.

"So," He says. "You finally pay attention to the suffering of others." His voice is a gasping wheeze. He shakes a finger at you. "You think this is as pulling a thorn from a Lion's Paw? You expect me to be grateful?"

"Maybe?" You say.

"No. I...am not." He says. "But I am in debt." He looks at the rest of the frozen ghosts. "Humility they said. The Great Ones, the Founders, our Patrons, call them what you will...they thought it would be 'Good' for us. Teach us a lesson." He nods towards the Sphinx. "Bastet treated it like a funny joke. She was not amused.

"But we accepted it. Accepted the decrees of Those Who Are. Accepted that we had...overstepped, and made errors. We accepted our punishment, and knew that we would be eventually returned."

The Sandman turns to you. "But you didn't stop, did you? You just kept piling them in, the wretched, the vile, the ones who respect no one but themselves. What could we do against the hordes? How else were we to survive but to bow and scrape, and agree to serve those that could crush us in our time of weakness, our time of penance?"

The Sandman points at you. "But then, one of Those Above freed us. Took the Djinn through hidden ways, and placed her back into the world." He sniffs. "Word is she escorted some others to another realm, destiny nonsense...hope she's happy."

he turns. "Do you know what they did then? They turned on us in fury! They locked us in here, beat us, abused us, tortured us. We who had accepted the terms...and now look."

(cont)

>>35270780
>letting prisoners riot
>thinking everyone should be in general population
>letting the violent offenders abuse the inmates who legitimately wanted to repent
As the wardens of this prison, we kind of fucked up really, really bad.

>>35270867
Yeah. Ghostbusters should definitely make a minimum security/safehouse section that the bad ghosts cannot enter.

>>35270780
Well shit, looks like there's a way out besides the Containment Unit door. Also, we've made the big ones real mad at us.
>Took the Djinn through hidden ways, and placed her back into the world
Well shit.

>>35270780
>"But then, one of Those Above freed us. Took the Djinn through hidden ways, and placed her back into the world." He sniffs. "Word is she escorted some others to another realm, destiny nonsense...hope she's happy."

>Hidden ways

Oh man, this is really fucking bad if there's a breach in our containment units. Even worse that somehow they're able to coordinate with each other through them.

>>35270867
>>35270883
We didn't design it this way, it just formed this way naturally around them.

We could create different containment units for separate ghosts though, but after all this information there is GOING to need to be major rethinking.

>>35270780
The Sandman gestures to the frozen ghosts and then sags. "The worst thing...the worst thing is that we know that Our Masters can free us. But they do not. They either do not care to know, or they do know and care not. There is nothing but the cold and the laughter of absent Gods and vile usurpers. All thanks to you."

"What do you want me to do about it?" You ask. "Free you?"

"Pah!" The sandman waves his hand. "And disobey my Command? I would be WORSE than the scum that fills this land. I have many WANTS mortal, and YOU can provide NONE of them."

"Should I free the others?" You ask.

The Sandman, again, waves his hand dismissively. "So they can lock us all up again? Torture us again? And make no mistake, mortal. There are PLENTY of us who would see no shame in making you suffer for a moment or twelve before we returned to our penance." He scowls. "You came for the child, yes? She's one of YOU, isn't she?"

You nod.

"Take her, and then go." The Sandman says.

"I think there's a host of ghosts waiting for us on the other side of that wall." You say. "They'd tear us apart."

"I find myself, 'strangely' uncaring about that fact." The Sandman says with a sneer. "I will keep the Wolf asleep, so that we are no longer tormented by it, but I'd prefer our solitude, so that we may await our...'parole' without the rabble hounding us."

He turns his back on you.

"What if I were to free someone else?" You say.

"I will not stop you." The Sandman says.

You blast the crystal holding Yurei and she collapses to the ground. Then gets up and embraces you in a hug.

Okay...now how are you going to get out of here? You can't just leave the Tower. The only way Yurei can get out is if she leaves through the Cherry Tree Gateway outside of the Tokyo Containment Tower.

> Just dive through the portal and make a run for it.
> Free one of the other Penitent Ghosts and see if they'll help
> Try and coax the Sandman to help
> Other

>>35270915
Not to mention, I do think an apology is in order.

We, the Ghostbusters as a whole, were wardens of this prison we created. We put everyone in here, from the most genocidal of spirits to those that accepted that it needed to be done for the greater good (Siren and a few others).
These were spirits who either honestly wanted to repent for their mistakes, or who helped the Ghostbusters take down some of the bigger threats, and we left them in here for the violent offenders from SUPERMAX to toy with.

And the Ghostbusters DID know this.
They knew Siren was in here. They knew that Stay Puft had reformed.
And they just left them in here because it was inconvenient to think of a way to get them out.

>>35270915
(Let me rephrase what happened with the Djinn. Some Gods, needed a djinn in order to take some designated mortals to another world so destiny could be upheld, evil defeated, and blah blah blah. So they removed a well-behaved djinn from the unit on a 'work-release' program, and ONLY her. She's in the other world with the mortals. There's no breach, just some, literal, divine intervention.)

>>35270997
>Free one of the other Penitent Ghosts and see if they'll help
Syren. She helped the Ghostbusters not just once, but twice, and both the Original and the Extreme Ghostbusters left her here to rot and get raped.

Anyone who says that the Original Ghostbusters holds the moral high ground compared to the actions of GBJ obviously forgot about her, just like the Ghostbusters.

>>35270997
> Just dive through the portal and make a run for it.

I'd rather not push our luck. One down, one to go.

>>35270997
Hmm, Sandman has no real reason to lie to us, so I think freeing someone else is bad. We're not in authority to negotiate with Sandman and he won't believe us anyway. The portal is risky, but it's our most definite way home.... Unless...
Is there a way to regain our psuedo-invisibility?
>Other
>Attempt to regain our Sneaking Suit power
>>35271062
Yeah, but that means that if a god wants to, our security is fucked. Some real Bad Dudes With Attitudes could just lift out Fenrir and kickstart the twilight of the gods.

>>35270997
>>35271072
I agree. Free the Siren.

Our defining character aspect is that we do what is right.

>>35271062
>So they removed a well-behaved djinn from the unit on a 'work-release' program, and ONLY her.
By they you mean the ghostbusters right? As in the gods asked them to do it?

Because if any gods did this, divine intervention be damned, that IS a breach.

This thing is meant to hold gods, dangerous gods, like Surt or Fenris.

if any being is able to just pull out a ghost from here, the whole system could fail.

>>35271072
I doubt she'll be up for a third time.

>>35270997
> Just dive through the portal and make a run for it.

>>35271126
You forget. There's a hole in the containment unit. We can take people out with us.

>>35271127
We do what is right for the greater good, at least.

>>35271006
Speaking of Siren, think that's the blonde ghost?

Also, I think the worst part is that Ghostbusters are capable of entering the prison whenever they want, especially if they have resources, and yet we just pretty much leave them be.

>>35271158
No. We do what is right. Even if it puts us at risk.

>>35271161
It's. . .really fucking dangerous for obvious reasons.

>>35271169
So long as us being in risk

>>35271169
>>35271179
*So long as us being at risk is what it takes for the greater justice.

Everything, for the greater justice. No matter the cost, no matter the sacrifice.

>>35271141
>I doubt she'll be up for a third time.
I suppose you have a point.

>help Ghostbusters bust Banshee, her own sister
>get busted herself and raped by Surt
>help Eduardo and Slimer stop Surt
>get left behind and raped by Surt and every other major busted ghost

Yeah, looking at that past record of Ghostbuster callousness, she's got absolutely no reason to think she WON'T get brutally raped again.

>>35271072

Yeah, let's free her. After we free Yurei, clearly so we don't hurt Yurei in the process.

>>35271193
Except we got the hole in the containment unit. We can waltz her ass straight out.

>>35271193
Man, Cartoon/Comic canon can get really fucked up if you think about it.

movie canon the containment unit is meant to be more like a limbo/abyss where ghosts roam around unable to interact with each other

>>35271139
>By they you mean the ghostbusters right? As in the gods asked them to do it?

Got it in one, actually. Well done. Egon was given the request, told the reasoning for the release, he agreed, and the business was compensated.

>>35271225
>We can waltz her ass straight out.
Eduardo had the same opportunity, and he left her behind so that he and Slimer could get out.

Egon went into the Containment Unit before, and he didn't even try to get her.

They even ghost the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man out of the Containment Unit once in order to showcase him for a TV ad, and to get paid, showing they were perfectly willing to risk the dangers of the Containment Unit and its hate-filled prisoners for $10,000, but they conveniently forget about anyone being tortured who doesn't instantly translate into cash for them.

>>35271225
Except she can't leave the tower, unless it's in the same Zone she was trapped in.

We learned this last thread.

>>35271225
Still have to rescue Sachiko, and if she comes out by herself Akira will get to busting.

Ah, but if we can lock Yurei to have her released, she can warn them about Siren so she doesn't get busted on exit.

>>35271332
Oh, this is true.

Then maybe the only way is to file a complaint to head offices after we come out?

We could attempt and leave through the head office's containment unit but we're currently time limited to get Sachiko out.

>>35271328
So, I'm seeing a few votes to free Syren? I'm not sure if that's a repeat or not.

Just a reminder, please remember that the exit to the Containment Unit is on the Outside of the Tower. Ghosts can't exit towers they weren't originally from.

That means that Yurei can't leave this Tower, and that Syren can't leave the Japan Tower.

>>35271328
>Egon went into the Containment Unit before, and he didn't even try to get her.
That was before the GBE though, I think, and it was the GBE who captured Siren.

He did go in to rescue the ghosts of christmas.

also remember there's a diffference in the tone of GBE, TRGB, the movies, and this quest.

The Real GB cartoon was meant more lighthearted, GBE took on a darker tone, and of course the movies where comedy-sci-fi[/spoiler

>>35271390
I want to free Syren because as long as the Sandman is free, he's not going to begrudge her keeping Fenris asleep.

However, I admit that the fear that she will be hostile to the Ghostbusters after being left to be horribly raped not just once, but twice, is a legitimate concern.

>>35271390
I'll vote to free Syren. It might not make it go away, but we can try to make it right.

>>35271390
Hrm. Idea. If they are in this area with Fenris, no one else will bother them, while Fenris is kept asleep by Sandman, yes? They will be safe here.

AND what did we just learn? Gods can pull ghosts out easily.

What are we about to do? Do the gods of Japan a huge favor.

We can beg them to help free Siren and Sandman and such once they are sorta in our debt.

>>35271390
I don't really see the point, since it's beyond our power to actually free her.

>>35271487
If it was that easy, Sandman would never have been caught in the first place. Surt probably walks through the towers, making sure everything is in order.

Also the gods probably can't do anything.

>>35271487
>Gods can pull ghosts out easily.
No, see >>35271254

The Gods contracted Central/Egon to allow their influence in/have him pull out the Djinn as part of a deal.

>>35271515
>>35271516
We can ask our gods who will be in our debt to have Egon pull them out. Or hell, ask Egon ourselves.

We can make this right.

It's what we do.

>>35271446
You blast open Syren's cell, and the blonde ghost drops to the ground. She gasps for air, and curls up into the fetal position, sobbing and babbling in gaelic.

Yurei holds up a hand to you and she goes over to her.

It takes a bit but your friend eventually gets the woman to uncurl, and the pair talk for a bit.

> Roll 1d6

>>35271531
Mhm, that would be beneficial to the greater good. So yeah, if we can do it somehow.

The question is how.

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>35271546
So basically, tough luck.

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>35271546
Daijobu?

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>35271546
PLEASE BE GOOD.

>>35271551
Central listens to good gods like the Kami, who will owe us.

Even if that doesn't work, we can go to them directly. They're good guys. If we point out what's been overlooked, they will do the right thing.

Or we will make them.

>>35271546
Wait, Yurei is talking?

>>35271590
Apparently.

I still can't wait for the Yurei/Sachiko Freaky Friday episode

>>35271546
>She gasps for air, and curls up into the fetal position, sobbing and babbling in gaelic.
Hmm, even ghosts can have surreal life sensations in death. Interesting.

I can imagine it's just how realistic they make their torments here.

>>35271551
You're oversimplifying. The reason Egon listened to the god was because it had a good reason.

It's not just "Egon listens to gods".

>>35271627
It's 'Egon isn't a fucking monster and will listen to reason and decency, plus there's the good chance the Kami will pay them'.

>>35271607
There are gods in here who have created hells, and demons who have come from hell. They know how to torment souls.

>>35271627
Misquote?

>>35271650
If he cared about that, he wouldn't have let this situation go on for like a decade.

>>35271590
Well...communicating...you think. They aren't 'talking' talking but you know that they're 'conversing' in some manner.

Either way, Syren gets up from the ground and walks over to you. She nods.

"I'll help you to get out." She says softly, in a voice that makes you want to forgive her for anything.

"Thank you." You say.

She nods. "I can try to make everyone think you're invisible with a spell, or I can come with you and keep everyone charmed." She rubs her arms. "The second one will be more effective...but..." She doesn't say the obvious part about how she doesn't want to leave the safety of a now controlled Fenrir and the Sandman.

Well, this is an easy choice. You think. No sense putting Syren at risk, and later you'll call central and get them to get her and these others into a better situati-

*Yosh!* A voice stabs through your mind. *Wow, this worked...uhh, Hey! Who's human mind is this? This one of the Ghostbusters that knows what they're doing?*

That's Sachiko's voice!

"Sachiko! It's Daisuke!" You say to open air.

*So, the answer is 'No.' Great.* She groans.

"What are you...How are you...?" You shake your head. "Never mind. Where are you?"

*Where do you think? I'm out in front of the big creepy mansion. Where are you? What are you doing in here anyway?* She asks.

"I came to rescue you." You say.

*Well, hate to upset you, but I rescued myself. With some help.* She says with a sigh. *Anyway, you should worry about Yurei. She and I got separated.*

"I've got her." You say.

(cont)

>>35271783
Key words are 'pay' and 'we will fucking make them'.

>>35271783
Egon is also dense and usually oblivious to things not brought to his immediate attention.

>>35271783
His hands may have been tied.

Also, the status of the containment unit varies from series to series. One cartoon is lighthearted enough to rescue a ghost for a tv add, the other has gods dwelling over the weak, while the movies weren't meant to be more than just a comedy about exterminators of the paranormal kind, busting pests and tossing them in the bin.

And then. . .there's Japan.

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>>35271809
>*Well, hate to upset you, but I rescued myself. With some help.* She says with a sigh. *Anyway, you should worry about Yurei. She and I got separated.*

Somehow I don't believe this.

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>>35271823
>And then. . .there's Japan
It's all about dealing with unforeseen consequences.

>>35271858
Eh, she's got the ghost of Kayako's mother helping her so...

>>35271895
>Kayako
Wait, maybe we should see if Kayako is here in Deep Freeze.

She wanted to repent, so the other ghosts would have put her here.
And the other powerful ghosts don't give a shit about Mae or her plans; in fact, some of them might consider Mae's plan to be encroaching on their turf.

>>35271950
Speaking of Kayako, maybe the containment unit would be a good place to separate her negative PKE from her own soul?

It would all be contained here, while we extract her.

>>35271950
She is far too powerful to be bound by them. She's most likely in the mansion with Sadako and whatsherface.

>>35271976
I think Sachiko already did that, since she's more competent than us.

>>35271809
*Oh good!* She says. *Wait, is THAT why all the guards and ghosts ran off? I told you it was weird! Yeah, no...no no we can't. Well, because they're the only ones who know how to GET out and Daisuke's got a cute...wait...can you still hear me?*

"Yes." You say. "I have a cute what?"

*Never mind.* She snaps. *Look there's a big ass horde of ghosts just waiting at the big creepy tower. Are you anywhere near that?*

"Kind of." You say. You explain to her your discovery of the connected Towers, how you kind of alerted everyone to your presence, and how you discovered the Penitent Ghosts.

"So, now I'm trying to figure out a way to sneak back without getting ripped apart." You say.

*Alright.* Sachiko says. *Let me know if you need me to help.*

"Hey," You say, suddenly suspicious. "How do I know you're you?"

*Umm, you and I met face to face when I was having an attack thanks to a bee sting, and we met Kali in a tacky sushi place that was by Hachiko's statue.* She says. *I also went out dressed as an american vampire slayer with Kali once, and the day you came back on your 'walk of shame' you were wearing your blue shirt with th-*

"Okay, okay." You say. "How can you help, exactly?"

*Well, Kayako and I can maybe cheat a little.* She says.

"Wait, you and WHO?"

*Yeah, Kayako's with me. Her mom is SUCH a bitch, she tried to screw us both over. Wanted to rip Kayako into Nothingness, and then take over my body for herself. Short version, we won. Though if mommy catches up to us...we don't want that to happen. Anyway, I think Kayako can do her phase through the wall trick.*

"What?" You ask.

*We used that trick to escape the mansion.* Sachiko says. *I'm looking at the barriers on this tower...I think me and her can slip a person through. Yurei, as well, no problem.*

Sachiko, if that IS Sachiko...can beat the Tower barriers.

You look at the miserable Syren.

Now your options have expanded.

(cont)

>>35272032
> It's too much to risk. Syren could be caught again, and there's no guarantee that Sachiko is the other person on the other end of that line. Best to stay with the plan. Let Syren make you and Yurei invisible again and go from there.
> You have a chance to do something right, something good. Free Syren who has certainly suffered enough to earn an early release. You're pretty sure that's Sachiko. Also, it'll make it easier for you all to waltz right through the hordes, with Syren with you.
> Other

>>35272065
> You have a chance to do something right, something good. Free Syren who has certainly suffered enough to earn an early release. You're pretty sure that's Sachiko. Also, it'll make it easier for you all to waltz right through the hordes, with Syren with you.

I am a trusting person

>>35272065
> You have a chance to do something right, something good. Free Syren who has certainly suffered enough to earn an early release. You're pretty sure that's Sachiko. Also, it'll make it easier for you all to waltz right through the hordes, with Syren with you.

It's time. By all the gods, she WILL be free. Even if we have to take on the entire army solo while the others get her out.

>>35272065
>You have a chance to do something right, baby.

>>35272065
>You have a chance to do something right, something good. Free Syren who has certainly suffered enough to earn an early release. You're pretty sure that's Sachiko. Also, it'll make it easier for you all to waltz right through the hordes, with Syren with you.
I... guess? Since we aren't really helping her right now, it looks like Kayako's not that fond of us.

>>35272065
>It's too much to risk. Syren could be caught again, and there's no guarantee that Sachiko is the other person on the other end of that line. Best to stay with the plan. Let Syren make you and Yurei invisible again and go from there.
Greatest chance of acceptable outcomes for all participants.

>>35272065
>> You have a chance to do something right, something good. Free Syren who has certainly suffered enough to earn an early release. You're pretty sure that's Sachiko. Also, it'll make it easier for you all to waltz right through the hordes, with Syren with you.
Fuck me but its time to do the right thing.

>>35272032
> You have a chance to do something right, something good. Free Syren who has certainly suffered enough to earn an early release. You're pretty sure that's Sachiko. Also, it'll make it easier for you all to waltz right through the hordes, with Syren with you.

She knows things that only Sachiko would know.

>>35272065
>Other
"Sachiko... You and Kayako are going to escort a prisoner out with you. I'll take Yurei. Then we make tracks for the cherry tree. There may be some difficulty with the other prisoner, though."

>Daisuke's got a cute-
Loves to watch us go, huh?

>>35272156
Are we sure they can get Syren out of here?

>>35272065

> You have a chance to do something right, something good. Free Syren who has certainly suffered enough to earn an early release. You're pretty sure that's Sachiko. Also, it'll make it easier for you all to waltz right through the hordes, with Syren with you.

However, OFFER first. Don't just grab her.

Right now, Syren is relatively safe since the Sandman doesn't want Fenris or the other ghosts to put him in ice again, and will defend her indirectly.

If she comes with us and something goes wrong, she's going to get gangraped a third time. It'll be the third time that the Ghostbusters failed her.
With the Ghost Roll sitting there and waiting, do you really want to take that chance?

>>35272201
Yeah, we should tell her the score.

Just got back, how do we plan to free Syren if she can only exit through Centrals door the way she came?

>>35272214
That is a pretty good point. But I don't know, is pussying out because we're scared of ghost rolls really a good idea?

>>35272065
>You have a chance to do something right, something good.

This is likely going to come back to bend us over the table and go in dry, but it's kind of our thing at this point.

>>35272214
Yes. It's time to do the impossible and kick reason to the curb!

>>35272239
Sachiko can beat the barriers.

>>35272239
I don't know, we seem to be assuming Kayako can improve the situation.

>>35272272
The problem is it would be screwing over someone else, who has been herself screwed over way too many times.

You know, for all this talk of the need for Siren being freed, we musn't forget that for centuries she helped her Sister perform many, many murders of young children and teenagers to give her beauty.

Did she do it as coerced or love for her sister? probably? Does she deserve what happens to her? Perhaps not, in the same way murderes might not deserve prison rape.

But she isn't innocent, that is for sure. Does sufficient punishment erase the guilt of a persons crimes? Of mass murder?

The treatment she endures here is unacceptable, but I hope we have more cause to free her from what to anyone else would be a life sentence for one murder, than she just having a pretty face and we feeling sorry for her.

>>35272318
That is a good point, also are we sure freeing her won't help free Banshee as well?

>>35272318
She's done enough good to balance it out. And we're suckers for doing the right thing.

>>35272065
>It's too much to risk. Syren could be caught again, and there's no guarantee that Sachiko is the other person on the other end of that line. Best to stay with the plan. Let Syren make you and Yurei invisible again and go from there.
I'm not sure about freeing her really being the right thing, or if it's really within our power.

>>35272340
Yeah, it's all about balancing out the wrong you did with the right.

I'd say even if the ghost of Hitler came back and saved the world and made up for all the wrong he did, even he should get a pat on the back.

>>35272419
I dunno about a pat on the back. But keeping him from suffering fates worse than death, yes.

>>35272405
We don't have to free her, we just have to get her out of here.

We can keep her under watched probation like we do the Alruane.

As for power, GB are basically judge, jury, and executioner concerning all things ghosts anyway. If anyone holds the power, it's us.

>>35272456
Eh, I'm pretty sure this was a bad idea.

>>35272602
We're going at it as a bad idea from two different directions.

Some of us are saying it's a bad idea because, if we fail, she's going to get fucked horribly again, while if she stays, even if we fail, she'll still be acceptably okay.

Others say it's a bad idea because we don't know how bad her crimes are.

>>35272649
Also I'm not sure if Kayako has any obligation to help us, even assuming everything is okay.

>>35272661
>I'm not sure if Kayako has any obligation to help us
It did sound like Sachiko was arguing with Kayako about why they shouldn't just abandon us here in the Containment Unit to make their escape.

>>35272142
You look at Syren. "Were you listening?"

She nods.

"Are you interested?"

She bites her lip. "I'd think you'd be a trick of one of the Dominators. Danglin' hope like that in front of a person like tha'. It be like them to do that. Make a soul hope...and then smash it." She nods. "But, I'm a fool like my sister tells."

Yurei takes her hand and gives it a squeeze.

She shakes her head. "If you lay me false, I'll...I'll stop trying to pretend that I'm not like Them."

You nod.

She takes a deep breath, and then nods. "Alright, so...you want me to start singing' then?"

"You can't just make yourself invisible?" You ask.

"Nae. I can't do stuff to myself. Just others." She shrugs. "Always how its been."

You go up to the wall. You have some options here. You think you have the trick of it now. Plus with Yurei to help you can get to the Japan Tower easy enough, but there are people waiting for you. So maybe heading straight there isn't the best idea.

> Head to the Japan Tower. The sooner you're free of this place the better.
> Go to another tower, heading straight towards a mob isn't a good idea.
> Other

>>35272678
>Other
"Can... can you sing through the portals? There'll be people on the other side and if we can make them fall asleep, then we'll have an easier time getting out."

>>35272649
Eh, the point of "how bad her crimes are" is moot, because Daisuke and the gang don't care about that. Not even Akira.

Any crime, no matter how heinous, can and will be forgiven, or the penalties lessened, even granted freedom, if they provide an adequate service towards their Greater Justice.

>>35272678
Well this is very high stakes.

It kind of feels like everyone would be high alert everywhere we go.

>>35272737
Why not think of a third option then?

>>35272737
>>35272780
Third option, you say?
>>35272707

>>35272678
>Go to another tower, heading straight towards a mob isn't a good idea.
Maybe we can cause an alert at a different Tower, and get the mob at the Japan Tower to move elsewhere.

And before we go, tell the Sandman we're going to talk to Central about cleaning this situation up.
We are the wardens of this prison, and it's shameful and a disgrace how we've let the situation in here get out of our control.

>>35272816
If we do cause a ruckus, maybe we should go alone, and not drag Syren there?

>>35272846
We could act as the decoy.
Have Syren do that invisibility thing on us, we'll go and do some stuff a different Tower to give Syren and Yurei a chance to get to the Japan Tower and meet up with Sachiko and Kayako.
Then we'll make our way there ourselves.

But the question is, how do we create the distraction without the invisibility breaking?

Or...
Could we just ask the Sandman for his powder?
Yeah, he doesn't have to help us, but what's he got to lose?
We win, he gets to see the Dominators of this place be foiled. We get caught, he gets to see a Ghostbuster die.
It's an obvious manipulation tactic, but it's valid.

>>35272948
He might not particularly want to see us die, he just doesn't really care one way or the other.

And might fear consequences from other ghosts if he helps us.

>>35272816
We totally need to fix this. They do NOT deserve to be here unless they're lying their asses off at us.

>>35272707
"Can... can you sing through the portals? There'll be people on the other side and if we can make them fall asleep, then we'll have an easier time getting out." You ask Syren.

"I don't know." She says. "I've never tried. Also, there's...no real way to know it'll work until after we go through."

"Can it hurt to try?" You ask.

"If it doesn't work, they'll hear me and they'll know somethin's gone wrong with Fenrir." Syren says. "We'll be swarmed, and with no way out. Even the Sandman can't stand up to a giant mob of 'em. They know how to stop us."

"Sandman," You address the other figure.

"Do not speak to me, mortal." The Sandman says. "I wish only to not be imprisoned, and not tormented. What happened to you, or the girls is beyond my caring. I am already planning for when your thoughtlessness brings more misery upon us. Ask me for nothing, for that is the only thing I will give you." He turns his back to you. It looks like he's whispering to Fenrir.

Whatever he's doing, you aren't getting any help from him. At all.

You turn to Syren.

> Go ahead and start singing.
> Stay quiet for now, but start the second we arrive at the Japan Tower.
> Stay quiet for now, and we're going to a different tower.

>>35272678
>Head to the Japan Tower. The sooner you're free of this place the better.
Kayako's mama is still hunting. We absolutely don't want to give her time to catch up.

>>35273156
>Stay quiet for now, but start the second we arrive at the Japan Tower.

>>35273156
>Stay quiet for now, but start the second we arrive at Japan Tower
Less chance for us to alert the wrong element
Caveat: Guns drawn, man. If this doesn't work we can't waste time with drawing our weapon.

>>35273233
>we can't waste time with drawing our weapon.
Should we go with Boson Darts or Slime?
According to the game, they're both good for mobs; the Darts because they're explosive, and the Slime for obvious reasons.

The question is which will work better against the ghosts here.

>>35273266
Slime explodes in the containment unit atmosphere, postiive charged slime + Negative PKE in the air = reaction

>>35273266
>Should we go with Boson Darts or Slime?
Slime apparently explodes on contact with the pseudo air in this enviroment. Like releasing anti-matter right next to us.

Boson darts, at least explode after hitting the target and not after leaving the gun.

>>35273346
>Boson darts, at least explode after hitting the target and not after leaving the gun.
but we should definitely make sure our gun is charged up so we can shoot right away when we step through the portal.

>>35273320
>>35273346
>slime explodes on contact with Containment Unit air
What if...we intentionally do that?
Like, set the Proton Pack's Slime Blower to crack open its entire slime reservoir as a kind of PKE bomb?
Sure, it'll mean we're out of a weapon, but it's one way to throw a melta bomb at the ghost mob.

>>35273399
>Sure, it'll mean we're out of a weapon, but it's one way to throw a melta bomb at the ghost mob.
It might also mean we're out of a suit.

It's already substandard, and it's the only thing holding our air in. Let's not crack it with an explosion.

>>35273412
I meant throwing it through the portal first.

"Stay quiet for now, but the very SECOND we get to the Japan Tower, start to sing." You say.

She nods and gently puts a hand on your shoulder.

Yurei grabs you arm and gives you a fierce nod of approval.

You take a deep breath and look back at the Sandman.

"We'll fix this. I promise it." You tell him.

He does not respond.

You turn to the glowing wall. Place your hand on the stones, and think of home.

You feel that tugging sensation and your vision blurs and when it clears.

You see a giant crowd of horrors who look a combination of being both angry, and very pleased. They completely fill the Tower's courtyard. A stadium's worth of creatures, ready to rip you apart.

Then Syren starts to sing.

> Roll 3d8, Highest roll plays.

>>35273399
>Like, set the Proton Pack's Slime Blower to crack open its entire slime reservoir as a kind of PKE bomb?
Not a bad idea, but we'd have to get time to set it up and I'd be worried about carrying it around when pursued by a mob.

unless we're setting it up here and then tossing it through the portal?

Rolled 3, 6, 6 = 15 (3d8)

>>35273428
DICE COME ON!

Rolled 1, 7, 2 = 10 (3d8)

>>35273428
Better get ready to die

Rolled 6, 4, 3 = 13 (3d8)

>>35273428

Rolled 1, 3, 3 = 7 (3d8)

>>35273428
>> Roll 3d8, Highest roll plays.

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>>35273437
On the one hand, it's less than 66% success rate, on the other, we got a three, which might be a good thing or might not.

>>35273437

...I like it.

>>35273437
i love you anon

>>35273437
*thumbs up*

>>35273494
Protip: use a reaction image instead of asterisks.

>>35273437
Half the crowd spins around and attacks the other half!

You look at Syren. She shrugs. "I'd thought it'd be more effective than just them staring at nothin'."

You smile and nod at her and you push through the riot.

"Not that I'm complaining, but why aren't Surt, or Chronos, or Stay Puff here?" You ask.

"The Dominators don't leave their Palaces." Syren says. "They're afraid someone would take them, plus it kind of upsets some people who are plannin to blanket the world in Darkness to meet those who're plannin to use Fire. You can only destroy the world once, ye see. Surt don't want to have rangarok if he's only got ashes to rampage in." She smiles. "The Dominators hate each other, they only hate the Penitent more, and well...you of course."

"I do think you need to rethink your choice of allegiances, my dear." A voice says.

Syren lets out a small gasp and she ducks behind you.

You are feet away from the Tower entrance. You don't see Sachiko immediately.

You do see a revolting looking figure, wearing a trench coat and a floppy rain hat. His green face looking half-melted and a mouth full of rotted teeth.

"I'm sorry to say that I've never been one for a musical ear." The Grundel says. "I much prefer the sounds of weeping and screams." He tilts his head. "I don't recognize you. You must be part of their expansion. Well, allow me to introduce myself."

"The Grundel." You say.

His face bursts into a giant smile. "My reputation precedes me then! How marvelous."

The sounds of the brawl all around you seems to just be background noise, all you can hear is the...sounds...that emerge from the Grundel's squelching upon itself.

"Yurei, Syren." You say. "When I'm kicking this ghost's ass, make a break for it."

The Grundel waves a finger at you. "I'd rethink that, Ghostbuster." He grins. "I'm not here to fight. I'm here to, much like dear Syren, negotiate my release."

(cont)

>>35273714
NO. I don't care WHAT he knows, the answer is NO!

>>35273770
No, no, let's hear him out.

After all, just because he leaves the Containment Unit, doesn't mean he's free to roam.

On top of that, after what Kali mentioned about Imperial Japanese Army actions in China, I think we need to dig up some of the work of Unit 731.
It'll help us verify their research if we have a subject to test them on.

Don't forget, we're Japanese; the Geneva Convention is just a piece of paper, and the Grundel isn't a human, let alone Japanese. He's just a gaijin youkai.
I'm sure we can dig up an old IJA uniform from somewhere. Maybe even get a PKE-active gun-toh to go with it.

>>35273770
I agree with this. The Grundel is pretty bad news, like beyond what we've made deals with.

It'd be like releasing Fenrir.

>>35273770
>>35273891
Doesn't matter.

We may need this info.

>>35273714
You bark out a laugh. "You really think that I would ever even entertain the IDEA of letting something like YOU go?"

"Kylie's little friend wasn't the only one." He says.

"What?" You ask.

"Your group stopped me, and freed little Jack," The Grundel nods. "But that was HARDLY the first crop, and there are MANY more...trophies." He chuckles. "So many crying mothers, and yet in the back of their minds, a small voice saying 'Thank God, that little hellion is gone.' Ahh, years and years and YEARS of that." He shrugs.

"It may be too late for most, but some may still be alive, and you never know when lightning might strike the wrong tree again, and whomever is unleashed might not have my...restraint." He grins.

You see a hand wave at you from the side of the archway, it's Sachiko and she has someone with her.

"Syren, Yurei." You say, not breaking gaze from the Grundel. "Go."

"Yes, Syren." The Grundel says. "We want to make sure that your little cheat works."

The girls walk through the mob, unmolested.

"How many?" You ask.

"Oh, over my ENITRE career? Or just the ones that might still be alive, or could be revived?" He chuckles.

"Don't joke with me." You snarl.

"32 in America, 68 in Europe, 6 in China, and...if I remember right, 1 in Japan." He says with a hideous grin.

"What?" You ask.

"I like to think of myself as a bit of a traveller." He chuckles. "Come now, you think America is the ONLY place where badly behaved children run away? My feeding ground is human civilization."

> 107 souls...maybe even lives...are at risk. 107 people who are trapped. 107 people who you can save. "Okay...let's talk terms."
> This. Is. The. Grundel. There are enemies of the Ghostbusters, there are the Gods and Demons the Ghostbusters have fought, there are the entities that CURRENTLY planning to destroy the entire world...and then there's THIS guy! You are NOT helping him. 107 souls or not! "Fuck off."
> Other

>>35273860
Do you know what the Grundel DOES? Having him walking about is not something we need to deal with now! Hell, the Japan branch of the Ghostbusters is probably young enough to be affected, so have fun with Akira, Star, Sato, AND us doing nasty things and possibly turning into copies of him.
We don't have TIME to deal with him right now. Hell, we will NEVER have time to deal with him because watching him would be a full-time job since he's essentially a smooth-talking criminal sociopath.

>>35273903
He's going to need a lot more than 107 souls.

Maybe if they pertained to the Tamamo-No-Mae dillema, but at this point those 107 are just collateral.

Sorry, close, but no cigar. well, not really.

>>35273904
Yeah, IF letting him loose or those 107 souls would help us against Tamamo we;d let him out in a heartbeat, but this is a poor bribe.

>>35273903
>This. Is. The. Grundel. There are enemies of the Ghostbusters, there are the Gods and Demons the Ghostbusters have fought, there are the entities that CURRENTLY planning to destroy the entire world...and then there's THIS guy! You are NOT helping him. 107 souls or not! "Fuck off."
> Other
"I SO do not have time for this. I know who you are, I've read your file. You'd give them back only to take three times that number when we're not looking. We don't have TIME for your garbage and besides, we have BETTER ways of getting them back than negotiating with the hostage-taker. We're the Ghostbusters, we don't NEED you."
>>35273902
Why hello, our words. I don't feel like eating you right now.

>>35273904
>Having him walking about
Alright, I guess I was too subtle.

I implied that we would take him out of the Containment Unit, into a ghost trap, and then torture him for information using the methods pioneered by Unit 731 and, if we can get them, the current methods used by the Russian FSB and Putin.
And then we continue torturing him, in a separate containment ward, for the rest of eternity.

>>35273904
I'd agree to it only if we can reasonably trick him out of those souls. I just finished getting caught up...

Why did he say one in Japan? Who do we know of that might be effected by the Grundel?

>>35273969
What good are the souls to us anyway? They can't help us prevent the apoc. We have no need for them right now.

>>35273961
That's some pretty serious karma, man. Not sure if that'd fly.

>>35273969
>Why did he say one in Japan? Who do we know of that might be effected by the Grundel?
Akira's brother.
It's why Akira is such a sadist when it comes to the supernatural, why he channels all of the war crimes committed by Imperial Japan onto the ghosts we bust when he can, because he wants to hurt them because the supernatural took his brother.

>>35273961
Are you the guy who keeps advocating for murdering people randomly?

>>35273903
>"You've got till I leave the tower to state why I should think about anything you want to say." With that, start walking towards the exit.

>>35273903
>"Get Fucked"

I don't know much about GB lore, but looking at this faggot's wiki page, I don't want to make a single deal with him.

>>35273961
Do the team have time to set something like that up though?

Also, I'm pretty sure Akira would just straight up fucking murder us if this Thing got away.

>>35273986
Akira would want his brother back, but I, personally, would never ever forgive someone who kowtowed to the person who kidnapped my sibling.

>>35273978
>That's some pretty serious karma, man. Not sure if that'd fly.
He's a gaijin on Japanese soil. The Kami won't give a shit.

>>35273991
I'm the guy who advocates to 'acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of the greater good'.

>>35274014
This very much.

Tell Akira what this means and we'll do an investigation later. But Akira would hate us forever for working with this monster.

>>35273986
Well shit.

>>35273903
>Other
instead of telling him to 'fuck off'. charge up a boson dart and fall back. actions speak louder than words and we'll have a boson dart ready if he makes trouble.

>>35274014
>>35273986
>>35274032
You guys forget, even Akira was smiling like a schoolgirl when we got the info we needed from the Alruan murders.

It's all about priorities, these 107 souls are not a priority for the greater good.

>>35274023
So does Daisuke and the rest, canonically.

>>35273903
>> This. Is. The. Grundel. There are enemies of the Ghostbusters, there are the Gods and Demons the Ghostbusters have fought, there are the entities that CURRENTLY planning to destroy the entire world...and then there's THIS guy! You are NOT helping him. 107 souls or not! "Fuck off."
I'm all for not letting the Grundel go. We do have a line.

>>35274047
True.

Also, this seems like the kind of thing we can call Central or branches that can afford those drone things to take care of.

>>35274054
Our line is the Greater Justice.

His deal does not satisfy this.

>>35274023
Yup, you're the guy who recommends murdering people because you feel like it.
>>35273976
They might make things easier on other Ghostbuster cells. Especially on those guys fighting the Nightmare King or whatever by ending nightmares the world over.
But, as the choice says: "This. Is. The. Grundel."

>>35273903
>Other
"No. I'll tell you why. Because 107 lives is acceptable losses. I'm not American, in case you didn't know. In the pursuit of Justice, there's going to be some blood. You'll have to do better than that."
Then go. We're running out of time.

>>35273903
> This. Is. The. Grundel. There are enemies of the Ghostbusters, there are the Gods and Demons the Ghostbusters have fought, there are the entities that CURRENTLY planning to destroy the entire world...and then there's THIS guy! You are NOT helping him. 107 souls or not! "Fuck off."

This

>>35274072
Aye it is.

And where his deal more pertinent to defeating Tamamo, we'd of let him go.

But it isn't, so he can get fucked.

>>35274072
>because you feel like it.
No, it's because those lives are expendable, and their loss is within the bounds of acceptable losses.

>>35274116
That is, for now. Let's see if he ups the ante when we flat out say no to 107 random souls of little use.

Maybe he has some particular souls that could be of use, but I doubt it.

It's too bad we can't intimidate or coerce him.

>>35274116
No, it's because you're taking the lazy way out.
Property damage? Fine, we're using nuclear reactors to shoot proton streams at the supernatural, shit's gonna break.
Panic and mayhem? That's not usually OUR fault so much as what we're fighting, but it is still inevitable.
HURTING people? No, fuck you. That's not okay. That's NEVER okay, ESPECIALLY not when there are other options. BETTER options.

>>35274149
I hope Akira comes back in here and makes him wish he was never born.

>>35274149
>we can't intimidate or coerce him
If we had Unit 731's paranormal research they used on Chinese spirits, we might be able to.

>>35274154
>That's NEVER okay
Well, no, Daisuke is perfectly fine with getting his hands a little bloody, and having the greater good justify the means.

And that's how everyone around him sees him, because of what he's done, and he's already said he's got no regrets when someone asked him if it was worth it.

>>35274154
I agree that we shouldn't do any wrong without cause, but

>HURTING people? No, fuck you. That's not okay. That's NEVER okay, ESPECIALLY not when there are other options. BETTER options.
It's only not okay when there are better options.

But Daisuke can and will hurt or kill people if it is what it takes for the greater good. We as a group have already accepted turning a blind eye to murder if it can help us achieve that ultimate victory against a worse evil.

If he had a choice to allow the deaths of the scandal happen again, instead of letting it slide by, he would.

We must always choose the better option whenever possible, but when it boils down to it Daisuke is willing to maek the hardest choices few ever could.

>>35274195
Technically, we COULD let him outside, and then proceed to do horrible things to him until he tells us what we want to know. But firstly torture doesn't work, secondly, I'm not sure if an abomination like that can even be intimidated.

>>35274219
Because it was worth it.

>>35274239
Too risky. I'd rather set up a complicated trap that makes Grundel THINK he's been freed but he in fact has not.

We can say "I cannot make that call on my own." And leave.

When we aren't super pressed with time, we can attempt to set up something with the grendel, if the others agree.

>>35273903
One thing I just noticed guys, would we be young enough to be effected by the Grundel? If so, we should choose our words VERY CAREFULLY.

>>35274290
He isn't offering anything of use to us. There's no need to further discuss this unless he gives us something else.

107 souls is NOT worth Grendel running about causing more problems. Not even 1000 souls

We have bigger fish to fry.

>>35273950
Oh, YEAH. Also, same as the kappa, boson to the face.

>>35274229
>We as a group have already accepted turning a blind eye to murder if it can help us achieve that ultimate victory against a worse evil.
Except we've never done that. Or are you going to start crying about the plant woman?

>>35274302
On this vein, wouldn't something equivalent to: "I care about those people you treat as nothing but a carrot, why should I listen to anything you have to say?

>>35274329
Yeah, that might be a good way of phrasing things.

>>35274219
>>35274229
I'm not terribly happy with that direction in Daisuke's character. Can't change it, so whatever. What I can do, however, is advocate avoiding the easy path of low effort. When there is no better option, that is when I advocate for putting the boot in, anything less is pure laziness.
Were Daisuke directly responsible for all those people who killed themselves for the scandal? Yes, but you cannot say with absolute certainty that he knew the consequences would be that drastic before the fact.
Did we kill those vampires in cold blood? Yes, but the one we had at our mercy announced intent go on an even worse killing spree after coming for us. There was no better option, no better way there.
Did we turn a blind eye to the plant woman? We, as the player character, were not there and had no real way to affect that outcome, so I'm going to say no. Doing anything about it after the fact is just wasting time, especially since we put out an APB on her so that any relapse is spotted and dealt with.

>>35274320
It's called accessory to 1st degree murder after the fact. And we are guilty of it for each and every one of it's multiple victims.

But we let the murderer go with a warning, because it gave us what we needed.

>>35274342
THANK YOU, I could not agree with this more.

>>35274359
>Baww! We put the plant woman on parole instead of busting her. Now we're going to use that leap of logic to suggest the team is okay with outright murdering people.

"Fuck. You." You say.

He rolls his eyes. "Always so dramatic." He sighs. "I suppose I'll be happy with watching the others rip you apart."

"Threats?" You say with a scoff.

He shrugs. "You learn to enjoy the simpler pleasures, and it'll be more pleasurable when the girls watch you die...and then after that when we REALLY get to work on you."

On the plus side, you can see Syren, smoke slightly rising from her body, lying on the grass that's OUTSIDE of the tower. Whatever Sachiko and Kayako did, it worked. However, it looks like it took a lot out of Syren.

On the negative side, the Grundel bellows out a low horrible sounding noise that a cross between a bass note and a belch. It's breaking Syren's spell.

The horde is now turning towards you.

You see the girls, Sachiko is holding up Kayako, and Yurei is holding up Syren.

"GO! NOW!" You shout and point.

The girls take off.

> Made a mad tackling run past the Grundel and through the Tower Threshold. That'll limit the amount of Ghosts that can come through...but remember that the Grundel isn't a weakling or a pushover, and you're on his turf.
> Start blasting wildly, and try to shoot your way out. It's not the fastest way out, but you've got the tech, might as well use it. However, if someone gets through and causes the suit to be damaged...
> Use that Slime Reaction. Rip off you pack and set it to overload, then duck. If that works, you'll not only be in the clear, but you'll have given everyone here a Very Bad Day. If it doesn't work, you're screwed.
> Other

>>35274359
>But we let the murderer go with a warning, because it gave us what we needed.
No. We put her on supernatual probation and told her if we heard any peep out of her, we'd come back and bust her ass twice as hard.

>>35274342
>We, as the player character, were not there and had no real way to affect that outcome, so I'm going to say no. Doing anything about it after the fact is just wasting time
Funny that that type of excuse doesn't really fly in any legal court in the world concerning people who hide murders, who, typically, are usually treated as co-conspirators

There's a reason the term "accessory" exists.

>>35274391
When you consent to helping a criminal, you consent to the crime.

>>35274404
Probation usually implies you were tried and convicted and then sentenced by the justice system, all of which we not only bypassed we hid the evidence of the crime. Nobody, not the PCOC or the police will ever learn of those who were killed or their fate.

The Mafia can hide one of their own who murders someone, tell them to lay low and make them never kill again or draw attention. That doesn't make them any more legal than we are.

>>35274399
>Slime Reaction Bomb
>Other
"KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAA"
Go big or go home.

>>35274399
>Use that Slime Reaction. Rip off you pack and set it to overload, then duck. If that works, you'll not only be in the clear, but you'll have given everyone here a Very Bad Day. If it doesn't work, you're screwed.

If that doesn't scream 3d6, I don't know what does. Lady Luck, be kind!

>>35274399
>Use that Slime Reaction. Rip off you pack and set it to overload, then duck. If that works, you'll not only be in the clear, but you'll have given everyone here a Very Bad Day. If it doesn't work, you're screwed.
Heaven or Hell, let's rock!

>>35274399
> Use that Slime Reaction. Rip off you pack and set it to overload, then duck. If that works, you'll not only be in the clear, but you'll have given everyone here a Very Bad Day. If it doesn't work, you're screwed.

LET US GO BIG!

>>35274399
http://33.media.tumblr.com/ffef59cb9faa589b3c57e56483a63537/tumblr_n9rctnUNw51rdqm8no8_400.gif

"Dance off, pal. Me, and you" (Oooooh, chiiild)

>>35274437
We're pretty much the Judge, Jury and Executioner for the Loud Ones. You do realize that right?
She offered a Plea Bargan and we accepted it. It doesn't mean we consent to the crime, and it doesn't mean we helped her with it. She presented information in exchange for a reduced sentence and we excepted.

Just because you want to turn this into some Grimderp wankfest where we run around murdering people because we can, doesn't mean it'll fucking happen. Because you're a fucking retard.

>>35274399
> Use that Slime Reaction. Rip off you pack and set it to overload, then duck. If that works, you'll not only be in the clear, but you'll have given everyone here a Very Bad Day. If it doesn't work, you're screwed.

again I shall vote for us to go big or go home. High risk seems to work.

>>35274473
Shit, maybe it'll charge the slime/distract, as well.

>>35274437
WE ARE NOT OFFICERS OF THE LAW.

We're people trying to do what's right, in the dark, with what humanity we have inside of us guiding us.

So here's our choice: kill something that has sworn to never take a human life again because WE ARE THE LAW, or let it go and save more lives because of that.

We made that choice. It's not fun making hard ones, is it? Stop focusing on what happened before and start focusing on what's happening now and what WILL be happening.

>>35274437
BIG SURPISE: the Ghostbusters dont' play by the rules of law and order! Someone call CNN!
So does that mean you advocate us killing Kali because she harms people too?
What about Kuzu? She's a kitsune, that means she's totally killed people in the past. You up for murdering her too?
>>35274473
I like you, you'll go far kid.

>>35274484
>>35274526
>>35274530
Let me ask you one thing then.

If it had been a human, not an alruane, offering the same, would we have treated him the same?

If a human cultist had been sacrificing those people, and cast a spell to no longer be able to harm anyone in exchange that we wouldn't bust him and simply watch over him, would that have been acceptable?

Why should the dead or supernatural get preferential treatment over the living?

>>35274553
What makes you think we would have treated them any differently? I think under the same scenario and circumstances we still would have let them go if they were human.

Oh god I can already see the fours

>>35274576
This.

We would've helped the person not get busted all the same. Hide them even.

Because we're not retards.

>>35274553
Oh Lord, this argument...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrxl3Op4rsI

>>35274553
Mortals play by mortal rules. Human cultist sacrifices people to his god, straight to the cops he goes.
But the alruane is NOT mortal, the cops would not be able to hold her plus there is no evidence of her actions. At least none they'd believe.
So, since we're the most organized guardians of the flickering candle that we laughably call 'civilization', the job of playing parole officer, arresting officer, judge, jury, and occasionally executioner rests squarely with us. And we, the majority, did not advocate putting on the black hood. Get over it.

>>35274599
And you know what else? We would STILL be fucking right.

We ARE the Judge, Jury, and Executioner when it comes to ANYTHING supernatural. It doesn't fucking matter if they were a ghost a serial killer.

The law isn't able to save the goddamn world, we are. And no, hiding a murderer from the police is NOT consenting to murder.

>>35274616
I concur.
http://youtu.be/urcqQC02YbY

>>35274630
If the human cultist left no evidence and there was no way give them to cops, it would've made sense to let him go anyway.

We needed that info and it's going to save the goddamn world.

You rip off your proton pack and do everything the manual told you never to do...except when you absolutely have to do what you're currently doing.

The crowd closest to you slows for a second. They know that tech can cause an ungodly amount of pain and trouble and they're not too keen on being the first ones to experience it.

Still you chuck that sparking, hissing, sizzling, slightly slimy mess at the Grundel and the thickest part of the crowd and you duck.

> Roll 3d6, highest plays

Rolled 1, 3, 6 = 10 (3d6)

>>35274728
DICE I BEG OF YOU

>>35274630
>Mortals play by mortal rules
>But the alruane is NOT mortal
I still feel that's a terrible double standard.

Especially if we want to listen to Rei about letting ghosts live in the mortal world, without living by our rules.

>>35274733
That is so mediocre that I'm too scared to roll.

This is how we die.

Rolled 6, 4, 1 = 11 (3d6)

>>35274728
Do the impossible!

Rolled 1, 1, 6 = 8 (3d6)

>>35274728

Rolled 2, 1, 3 = 6 (3d6)

>>35274728
Here we go

>>35274752
........welp we're doomed

>>35274749
>>35274752
Yep.

Rolled 3, 4, 1 = 8 (3d6)

>>35274728

gogo

>>35274752
You guys are morons

Rolled 6, 5, 5 = 16 (3d6)

>>35274728
The problem with going big is dealing with the consequences when we lose.

>>35274553
Humans have very different circumstances involving their abilities. Lets assume no longer being able to use their abilities and the imposition of something similar to Assimovian laws + giving us the info we needed (we did need it)?

Sure. Because the only thing we'd gain out of busting it was a gold star of busting it. This action gave us incredibly valuable info, stopped all but extraordinary murder, gave us their biometrics, AND set a valuable precedent for other spirits.

Plea deals are a thing in the law, if you care about that (I don't think we really apply as a legal agency). But go take care of your Dredd boner.

Rolled 6, 5, 4 = 15 (3d8)

>>35274752
Oh.... oh shit.
>>35274778
>>35274792
Double shit.
>>35274741
News flash: people are hypocrites.
Also, the supernatural CAN live in our world. There's plenty who just want to get along, same as every regular John Q. Human. Sure, they can't exactly reveal themselves because people are cruel to things they're afraid of and don't understand, but they can live in harmony.
So it's problematic whichever way you lean.

>>35274752
Sometimes bad shit happens. Time to run and see if we can get out alive.

>>35274778
GHOSTMASTER, I BEG YOU

>>35274778
>Rolled 6, 5, 5 = 16 (3d6)
Since there were no limits on how many rolls were counted, only 'highest plays' then this wins, right?

>>35274800
I think the likeliest thing is that it just fizzles out and a bunch of ghosts kill us.

>>35274752
>Do the impossible!
I can't but feel that anime series did nothing but lead to people doing stupid shit just for the sake of it being unlikely as fuck to work.

Not that the alternatives were particularly good either.

>>35274752
Well, first the good news. The bomb did exactly what it was supposed to do. In that it blew up rather spectacularly.

The mob that wasn't completely wasted by the blast, (you have a bad feeling that the Grundel wasn't completely in that category.) was certainly knocked for a loop thanks to the concussive blast.

The bad news is that just hitting the ground was not enough for you. You got knocked around like an empty tin can, and it takes you a while for you to get back up.

You're a ways away from the Tower Entrance, and then you hear the REALLY bad news...or bad sound to be exact.

Hiissssssssssss.

There's a rupture in your suit.

> Try to seal it.
> Find the girls and have them help.
> RUN.
> Other

>>35274808
We'll find out.
>>35274809
This quest isn't about likely, Anon.

>>35274819
>RUN

GET THE FUCK OUT!

>>35274819
>RUN.
No time to seal it, we don't have duct tape nor do we have a sealant spray.

>>35274819
See anons, it's fiiiiine.
>You're a ways away from the Tower Entrance
Thoughts here?
My vote is for
> RUN.

>>35274819
>> Find the girls and have them help.
because we aren't fixing our own suit when we can't see the exterior and we're running out of air.

>>35274787
>>35274795
Fine then.

I'm just incredibly pissed at the bias towards someone we're planning to let live among us.

When a man kills another man, he could spend a lifetime trying to appeal or get a plea and not get it till the day he dies.

But if a ghost who has lived for ages kills dozens or hundreds, if they just space it out, till it becomes old news and nobody remembers, they don't even have to worry about someone questioning them.

>>35274819
> RUN.
> Find the girls and have them help.
The girls are in front of you so you can catch up to them

>>35274819
Oh, and maybe yell out to Yuri for help while we run for our life?

>>35274819
>> Find the girls and have them help.
>> RUN.

Because we're going to the same destination. So we get help while still going fast.

>>35274819
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY3XiM7oGj0
>RUN
>>35274816
I think it was partially about trying to accomplish the impossible even when things seem hopeless. I found the bit about moving forward like a drill very helpful for depression, so maybe that's just my reading.
>>35274850
Welcome to every myth ever.

>>35274861
I concur.

........though I wonder why we didn't bring duct tape...

>>35274819
> RUN
> Find the girls and have them help.

http://youtu.be/CSav51fVlKU

This isn't exactly a mobile suit. Maybe if we get Yurei's attention, she can double back and slime us?

>We are the judge, jury, and executioner of ghosts, so stop trying to play Dredd
Even the side arguments in this quest manage to be hilarious.

>>35274963
Dredd has a tendency of shooting everything that gets in his way. We only shoot SOME of the things that get in our way.
Big difference.

>>35274971
This. Dredd has only one answer to what he does. We have several, one of which is JUDGE.

>>35274986
Dredd actually sends people to the contain- I mean, probation cube.

Just thought it funny that someone trying to argue that we should become the law was responded in a way that sounded like we were the law of ghosts.

>>35275015
*Iso cube

>>35275015
We are the law concerning ghosts. We're the only one who can be.
What we are not is the law concerning humans.