Reposting from last thread
Nation Anthem Ideas (Tunes):
Virginia: The Virginia Company
Arendelle: God Save The Queen (In Norwegian)
The Sunless Empire: Kuzco Allegiance Day (Disputed maybe Yzmopolis)
Pontificate: Hellfire
Sultanate: Prince Ali
Mirror Kingdom: God Save Emperor Francis
Olympus: Land of the Dead

So we now have a K/L/R for Tzekel Kan

We need to decide which gear will give what bonus to human characters that can operate them.

And we need some powers. Seriously. We've been needing powers for seven threads now.

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>>36129027
Can Yzmopolis physically resemble the super-science city from Metropolis, albeit with Incan instead of Art Deco architecture?

>>36128283
>>36128427


Figuring out the numbers on this guy's ideas.
So, basically for inter-party social mechanics, having a score of +1 to +4 between two characters doesn't change any stats except for the general party coordination score, which would be gained by taking the average of all the party personal scores and rounding (A party with four characters and personal scores of -2, +3, +4, -3, +3 and +5 would have a Party Coordination score of +2, the same party with scores of -2, -4, +3, -5, +2 and -1 would have a Party Coordination score of -1), and the Party Coordination score would give bonuses or penalties representing the general state of the party. Here's my basic ideas for the party-wide bonuses and penalties from top to bottom:
+5 - Party is totally in synch with one another, increasing the primary stat of each character by 1 and giving a +4 bonus to all party-related rolls. A party should generally not be at this level, as there should usually be at least two PCs who somewhat dislike each other.
+4 - Party greatly enjoys each other's company and are a true band of brothers. Gives +3 to all party-related rolls.
+3 - Party genuinely like each other. Gives +2 to all party-related rolls.
+2 - Party tend to work together well, most of the time. Gives +1 to all party-related rolls.
+1 - Party usually like each other. Usually.
+ 0 - Neutrality.
-1 - Party tends to stray away from each other.
-2 - Party members have a hard time working with each other. -1 to all party-related rolls.
-3 - Party members actively avoid one another and openly dislike everyone else. -3 to all party-related rolls.
-4 - Party members actively hate each other and can barely stand to work together. -5 to all party-related rolls, all primary stats decreased by 1. Dangerously close to -5.
-5 - Immediate dissolution of the party.

Note - 'Party-Related rolls' are any rolls that involve the entire present party, with the large bonuses intending to encourage PCs to do as many (char limit)

Fluff from like three threads ago:

>Does Kaa still have a territory? Because if that's still the case, I've noticed a potential three way stalemate. Louie's men use fire to keep Khan away, Khan scares the shit out of Kaa and Kaa's power puts even the highest stepping of Louie's monkeys to sleep.

fire fear sleep shoot!

>>36129079
Yes.

>>36129100
Having any 'dissolution of the party' type things just doesn't seem like a smart idea because you know there will be a THAT GUY who will work to get them there so they can go back to playing [INSERT HATED GAME OF CHOICE HERE].

That being said, I'd argue that even if characters didn't like each other, they should be able to work together at a +5 level. Asshole friends that work in synchro in a pinch are a thing in all mediums.

>>36129100

What about sync between only two characters? Do the bonus still apply but are toned down to only when the two are working together towards the same goal?

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Why does Kaa have territory at all?

His character doesn't strike me as ambitious or charismatic (hypnosis aside) enough to lead a nation.

Maybe serve as a second in command or notorious highwayman, maybe, but it seemed like he was perfectly happy with eating whatever he could catch in the movie.

>>36129100
Can you do one for Power of Love?

>>36129180
This guy is right though. It needs a little work.

>>36129194

Probably when Shere Khan took over the jungle, Kaa struck a deal with him.

So he hypnotizes some animals to make them feel like they are safe in his territory, and then he simply goes and eats them when he feels like it.

Shere Khan probably doesn't care because lolKaa, he can just eat him anytime. But they usually don't bother each other that much, so....

>>36129027

>King: Empress Yzma the First and Last
While Empress Yzma's dominion over the majority of South America would seem to imply that she is doing something right, you might be hard pressed to figure out exactly what that something is. Building on the foundations of narcissism, madness and wild unpopularity laid down by her predecessor and one-time protege Emperor Kuzco, Yzma's reign has so far brought more of the same, making the transition of power a relatively smooth one from the perspective of her jaded subjects. Despite all appearances however, she is much more than just a crazy old lady that's scary beyond all reason. Empress Yzma the First and Last is a consummate mad scientist with an encyclopedic knowledge of chemistry, alchemy, pharmacology and zoology. Even beyond her love of transforming people into bizarre and ridiculous things, she is also well versed in other cartoonishly super-villainous disciplines, such as lever pulling, deathray building, monster ranching, secret laboratory rollercoasting and, her most impressive feat to date: banishing the sun from her Empire. The true threat Yzma poses to would-be adventurers and the world is not what you know she can do, but what you don't know she will do.

>Land: The Sunless Empire
The first thing an adventurer would notice about the Sunless Empire is that it does indeed appear to lack a sun, having in its place something almost but not quite like a solar eclipse with a caricature of Empress Yzma's bat-like face at the center.

And that's all I'd had from my attempt at Yzma's K-L-R entry a few threads ago. Work drained me and I'm a bit lost as to how to describe her land. I know that under her rule I wanted to experiment with having a large population of chimera people and people with random animal parts, but my mind's been scattered to the four winds it seems.

You know, of all the villain songs out there I've probably listened to Yzmopolis the most; whenever I see it brought up I can't help but play it again.

>>36129100
things together as possible.

>>36129189
HOLD YOUR HORSES PARTNER I'M DOING IT.
When two characters reach +5 through an act of true friendship, they become inseparable together and gain the 'True Friend' condition, which can stack and gives +1 to all rolls. ALL OF THEM. Upon reaching +5 through an act of true love, the PC gains an inseparable lover who gives them the following, non-stacking bonuses (Can only have one true love) - +1 strike and +2 to the character's primary attribute.
The point of giving such strong bonuses is that, well, it's Disney, but also because they are inherently human (or animal) bonds that can be manipulated and broken, and the penalties when such a thing happens are quite significant as well, turning social dynamics into a large portion of the game.
If two party members reach -5 (-1 to -4 similarly only affects Party Coordination), they become True Enemies, giving -2 to ALL rolls between both players. This is a stronger state than a True Friend because someone hampering your movements is much worse than someone enhancing them.
>>36129180
In a party with 4 players, if one person has all -5s and everyone else was neutral, the Party Coordination score would be -3.
>>36128603
The 'hearbroken' condition could instead be separated to be 'hurt in heart', which happens when a friend rejects the PC or his/her ideals are damaged, 'torn in heart', which comes up when a True Friend is lost for whatever reason, when a love rejects the PC, and when an ideal is seriously hurt, 'broken in heart', which occurs when a True Love is lost for whatever reason or a True Friend betrays the PC specifically or when an ideal is shattered, and 'dead in heart', which occurs when a True Love betrays the PC specifically or a totally ideal-breaking event occurs that otherwise entirely destroys the PC's will. etc
CHAR LIMIT ETC STILL NOT DONE

>>36129194
Because he's memorable and iconic and antagonistic.

>>36129224
That doesn't excuse how much land Kaa gets.

That's my problem. It's a good chunk of the subcontinent.

>>36129231
Best part is, it's not even a real villain song, it's from the tv show.

And I have the same deal with Hellfire. Which reminds me...

>>36129247
Well, what else should fill it up then?

>>36129247
Yeah, there have bee suggestions to hand over most of his land to Shere Khan and leave him with a small but heavily centralised realm which he basically has complete and utter control of via hypnosis.

>>36129251
Yes, but it fits the setting so well. It's not a "Here's what I plan to do" kind of song, its a "I'm in charge and you can all just deal with it" song.

>>36129239
Even if that is the case, having any situation be a 'instant party dissolution' just seems like bad gameplay mechanic. If the players can sit down at the table, they shouldn't have to worry about their characters not being able to do the same in game.

>>36129269
Shere Khan should get it or Ursula has flooded it.

Or it could be one of Ratigan's overseas colonies, for that Colonial India feel.

>>36129272
Oh, I love it. Yzma is great.

>>36129239
ARRRGH ALL MY WORK HERE GOT DELETED. I'M RE-WRITING IT NOW. SPECIFICS ON BREAKING +4s, +5s and IDEALS

>>36129274
Getting a -5 Party Coordination is similar to having all the characters die together and being un-ressurectable. It'd mean that all the characters hate each other SO MUCH they refuse to even work with each other.

Side note: A true love does not have to come from within the party, but a True Friend does. If an act of True Love is performed on an NPC outside the party, it creates an inseparable bond between the two of you and grants all the True Love bonuses, while not affecting party coordination. have fun fucking elsa

>>36129309
Ratigan doesn't have his own land per se, just the mouse underworlds throughout the lands.
The mice are forced to spy for him and call him king, since there's not many left to oppose him with the deaths of Basil and Dawson.

>>36129309
If we need colonial India, then toss it to the EITC, that's what they're here for.

>>36129231
There's just something really, really satisfying about it and about most of Yzma's antics.

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Hmm, is this an improvement?

I'm opposed to giving any humans a foothold in India. Shere Khan would never accept that.

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>>36129100
>>36129239
>>36129342

FINAL SECTION ON BREAKING UNBREAKABLE BONDS AND SHATTERING UNSHATTERABLE IDEALS

Hurt of Heart - Can be quite easily snapped out of through a wide variety of mundane means, causes a -1 in any roll that requires concentration due to a clouded mind, and the character acts somewhat more introspective and depressed while afflicted.
Torn of Heart - Causes -2 in rolls that require deep concentration and -1 to all other rolls, MUCH harder to snap out of but can be done through serious self-determination and/or a combined effort of the party.
Broken in Heart - Causes a -4 to rolls that require extreme concentration and -3 to all other rolls, as well as -1 to the character's primary stat for the duration, and is unable to be cured except through the concentrated efforts of other party members - you cannot self-snap yourself out of Broken of Heart.
Dead in Heart - causes -5 to all rolls and -2 to the character's primary stats, as well as reducing one strike, making the PC almost useless while affected with this totally mind-sapping affliction. A character that is Dead in Heart requires exceptional action to restore them to a fighting state, potentially involving an entire extra quest focused around getting them what they need to get back into fighting shape. A NPC that would be Dead in Heart would be Elsa, as an example.

Thoughts? Pastebins? Balancing?

>Arrive in Vatican
>Lich Frollo begins singing
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeAxKpvXrSQ

>>36129505

I have no idea about balancing, as Crunch is not my strong point

However, I have to say that I fucking love it and that you are a cool guy for having this idea and even making all the detailed crunch for it.

10/10 would sing with

Also, I imagine that Elsa's stats would be through the roof is she has Dead in Heart and still froze all of Arrendelle + golems roaming around

>>36129505
Man, if she's still freezing everything she must be really fucking good at ice magic to keep it up with those kinds of penalties.

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Just going to repost this and see if anyone wants more songs.

Snow Anna:
'Do you wanna build a snowman?'
Sounds like something she would say
It's only speculation 'cuz
I've never met
Old Anna anyway-
You used to be best buddies
But now she's dead
I wish you would just cheer up!
'Do you wanna build a snowman?'
I really hope it's not a snowlem

*Elsa is non-responsive*

Snow Anna:
Okay, fine...

-

Snow Anna:
'Do you wanna build a snowman?'
Those Atlanteans sound nice!
I think some company is overdue
I've started talking to
the bodies in the ice-
(Hang in there, Al!)

It gets a little lonely
With only three people
And this dumb broken clock!
(Tic-Tock, Tic-Tock, Tic-Tock, Tic-Tock, CRASH)

-

*Knocking*

Snow Anna:
Elsa?
Please, I know you're in there,
The world asking where you've been
They say "you're a monster", It's not true
I'm right out here for you, just let me in
We only have each other
Plus Olaf too
What are we gonna do?
...
'Do you wanna build a Snowman?'

>>36129100
>>36129239
>>36129505

Created a pastebin for future threads.
We'll probably eventually refine these, but I think this is a really solid base for Social Mechanics that should totally come into the brew.
http://pastebin.com/wTLJWdtT

>>36129486
He should contest the territory immediately on his borders. Trying to push his luck and all.

>>36129637
Kaa? Nah, he's happy as is. Shere Khan sends all the little boys his way.

>>36129589

I love it

Frozen might not have been the movie with the best execution, but damn if I didn't love Anna. This hits right through the heart

You keep on rocking, Anon

>>36129634
OP ADD THIS PASTEBIN TO THE COPYPASTA

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>>36129342
>have fun fucking elsa
pfft. Not challenging enough. I'm going for Meg.

And you thought ELSA was the Ice Queen...

>>36129027
Darn you anon! That bloody song is stuck in my head now!

>>36129634
I honestly don't see the need for such a mechanic. It complicates things unnecessarily and changes the TN balance. Perhaps make it an optional rule?

>>36129589
I really liked these in the last thread. Please do continue in song or prose!

Have some Ice Anna snippets from previous threads:

>"How was my performance? Was I convincing?"
>"There are just so few people around these days who remember what Anna was like, and you knooooooooooooooooooooooow I can't just ask Elsa for pointers on being her sister 'cause then she'll just frump and grump and sulk and drop the temperature another few degrees."
>"Ice Queen? More like Draaaaaaaaaaaama Queen!"

>"I know that I'm not reeeeeeeeeeeally the Snow Queen's sister, Princess Anna of Arendelle, but I look like her."
>"And I'm kiiiiiinda made out of her."
>"So that's alllllllllllllllmost as good, and you should proooooooooobably listen to my advice before you try and go in there and confront Elsa."

>Fake Anna playing pretend with the frozen citizens of Arendelle, posing them at tables, behind the counters of shops, between the snow drifts walking the streets, humming "Do you Wanna Build a Snowman?"

>Ice Anna pulling a thick book off the shelf in the library and opening it, relating from it the true story of what had happened to Anna, Elsa and Arendelle up until the point one of the party members points out that the book is upside down, and a dictionary.
>Oh. Well, yes. I aaaaaaaaam an Ice Golem after all. Like I know how to read! That's just silly."

>>36129701
It's a homebrew in itself - If you don't want a mechanic in your own personal game, nothing stopping you from taking it out. I personally like the emphasis it puts on player interaction. It'd probably be more geared towards people who like roleplaying and actually talking to one another instead of just slashing through everything in a faux-DnD.

>>36129577
Her powers don't need roles. They are emotion based, so were basically seeing her Psyche

>>36129738
Seconded. I think it should be simplified but some sort of reward for alliances built on trust and friendship should be a central mechanic.

>>36129654
For some reason the fact he has Christopher Robin in his clutches makes that line a whole lot creepier. I'm pretty sure the latest relationship chart had him allied with the Coachman for some reason too.

Also voting Kaa established his kingdom on the village Mowgli was trying to reach just to rub it in Bagheera's face.

>>36129738
Okay then, let me give a bit better of a criticism as you seem to be missing the point.

This ruleset relies on a few assumptions I'm not sure are true: it assumes that the PCs can have their character relationship defined by numbers, when less often than not it's about the players, not the characters.

The bonuses are enormous and oft unspecified as to what they actually do.


Shall I go on?

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>>36129872
Here's the latest chart, most of it's still open for debate.

>>36129872
Hey now, Kaa's no pervert. He just prefers eating little boys.

>>36129930
>prefers eating the creatures a little boy can imagine up
FIFY

>>36129907
>It'd be somewhat at GM discretion based off the general shape of two player's relationship, changing whenever they reach a somewhat significant benchmark between the two, with increasing levels more difficult to attain. (I.E. you could get to +2 from just fighting together and working well, +3 from having a "you're a pretty cool guy" moment, +4 from an active decision to help each other and making the decision you like each other, probably would be where friendship/love split, and +5 from an act of true friendship or love)


It's already been stated we can further specify and balance later. It's a rough draft, not a final copy, and the number crunching is changeable. Also:
>The point of giving such strong bonuses is that, well, it's Disney, but also because they are inherently human (or animal) bonds that can be manipulated and broken, and the penalties when such a thing happens are quite significant as well, turning social dynamics into a large portion of the game.

nl pls, at least make valid criticisms

>>36129917
A lot of that is silly. Why are Frollo and Jafar allied?

Do you have a blank one? I'd like to take a crack at it.

>>36129930
No, the little boy is there to make his dinner for him and inflate his ego whenever he gets bored. All of Kaa's subjects are there to inflate his ego in fact.

>>36129998
Frollo's marked as hostile to Jafar on that map.
What confuses me is that Frollo likes Hans, but dislikes Grimhilde. Hans is a vassal of Grimhilde, though.

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>>36129998
Check it again, Frollo and Jafar aren't allied, they're openly hostile.
But sure, have a crack at it if you want.

>>36129917
We might benefit from a 'It's complicated' category for characters who are prepared to ally under the right circumstances.

>>36130037
That was more Hans being diplomatic, he's technically ruler of his own independent nation, and despite paying lip service to Frollo, he's under Grimhilde's thumb.

>>36129917
The Horned King despises Hades, man.

>>36130037
Hans pays the Church lip service in order to keep the Inquisitors away.

>>36130045
Problem is that a good chunk of the board would turn "Its complicated". Most of the Villains are capable of striking a temporary deal, even if the both have daggers ready to sink into their partner's back at the end.

>>36130077
Arrendalle was representative of post-christian Scandinavia, so it makes sense that Hans would technically be part of the Church.

>>36130074
I figured he wouldn't care about the souls, he only wants the bodies for his cauldron-born, leaving Hades all the souls he wants. Subject to change though, if people don't like that.

>>36130045
"Distrustful" more or less covers that; they're not friendly, but they'll get together if things are looking bad.

>>36129984
+2 is already a big bonus. +4 is insane. Social mechanics, while interesting, should not be added just to be obtuse or people will have their characters become unnaturally chummy with each other because >muh numbers.
Moreover, I'm just not sure why it needs to be in. We've already balanced around 3d6+attribute+skill+trait, so I'm unsure why more bonuses need to be added.

>>36130126
HK's endgame is to usurp Hades's position and get his hands on all the dead.

>>36130095
This is precisely why heroes rising up and taking them out right under their nose is so plausible a scenario. These people are so stubborn, so self-obsessed, and so overconfident that smart players might only need to speak the right words to the right people in order to topple one of them.

>>36130152
>Note - 'Party-Related rolls' are any rolls that involve the entire present party, with the large bonuses intending to encourage PCs to do as many things together as possible.

come on man all this was already covered

>>36130185
Sure, but most of the villains' endgame is to take over the whole world eventually. It's just a matter of patience and false friends.

>>36129079
That seems really doable. Really, really doable.

Would there happen to be a collection of all the fluff pieces somewhere? Things like the person talking about why you shouldn't go into the Shadowlands, the President's Fireside Chats, etc?
Or would I need to go digging through the whole archive to find all of 'em?

>>36130350
Unfortunately the latter until somebody gets around to compiling it all.

However, these threads aren't about possible villain-talk that the players will likely never see. It's about creating a game.

>>36129027
A little idea i had:

The sound of creaking wood fills the chamber as I move down the ancient wooden staircase. My lame leg slowly drags behind, but really, i don't mind. Its been that way for as long as I remember. As it slowly thuds against the ladder, images of the past slowly juggle through my mind, back when I looked down upon it, like it was a sin. Like i was a monster. I remember that night, when I disobeyed my father. How foolish was I then. I remember their screams, their sneering faces, their fainting women. But I forgive them now, for they have found penitentce in my father and his father. I remember how i was hit, and bruised and abused. I remember calling out for help, for forgiveness for my sin. I saw a girl in glittering clothes, standing in a ally. I then saw her run, as the crowds swarmed. It was only by some miracle did i find my escape, a small crack in the wall. There I saw the girl again, this time with another. I followed them deeper and deeper into the earth, my battered misshapen form skulking far beyond their sight.

Finally, i reached what seemed to be their home, a ancient crypt filled with life and color. I thought to myself, now was my chance to begin anew, to be reborn. So silly, i think now, that i would try and find baptism without the Lord. But then, I lost them, they disappearing into the crowd. But through what i now know as Gods work, i saw their shadows and whispers. The fool, the beast, the stupid ignorant thing! They cried and laughed. Suddenly, all around me, the devils looked and pointed. I cried out, No! listen! Hear my plight! But the sinners ears are as hard as their heart, and they laughed.

I quickly put my hood on as i walk through the halls, to my new life. I look back, as i fled through the catacombs, the dead and devils following me, staying a step ahead infront of the evil creatures thanks to divine above. I remember telling my father of what happned.

Cont

>>36130350

Good point. It would be nice to have it all collected together, as there has been a fair amount of pretty great fluff generated in all these threads.

>>36130211
Okay. Once more, since you seemed to have missed it before.
Why.
Why do we need this mechanic? There are few if no rolls that involve the entire present party except MAYBE, MAYBE MUSIC, so shouldn't it be just rolled into that, or perhaps a Power based on music? We've nearly got the core game done, so why bother with another kind of pointless mechanic like the debate we had over magic in the last thread?
We still need things done before we have a working game, so why tack on even more work because you have a half-assed mechanic idea that doesn't fit the crunch and would require an... interesting degree of player compliance?

The following things must still be done before the game is ready to play:
Power list for each class, complimenting each specialization (what are these?) (probably 3).

Setting-based powers, like something Barter based for Shadowlands PCs, or tech-related for Atlanteans.

>>36130350
>>36130445
I can hunt through in a little bit here, fluff is more my department anyway.

>>36130185
As the guy who's been providing book-based information on the Horned King since thread 2, I can assure you he gives not a shit about souls; he only cares to make the living miserable.

>>36130454
Since we have Tiers done, we also need descriptions of what each Skill does and a better description of each Attribute. Equipment also needs to be done properly, not half-assed as it is right now.

>>36130454
>Few if no rolls that involve the entire party present

i don't think you understand what that means first of all
hint: it's not "everybody's here"

and as for why - because it's an interesting mechanic that pushes emphasis into a more unique a disney-like fashion with a stronger focus on roleplay instead of trying to create DnD: disney edition? is that somehow not a good enough reason? and why does other mechanics not being done have anything to do with the creation of a different one?

>>36130389

That's a good point, and actually creating this game is always to be the first priority, but it's nice to have some fluff and flavor pieces on the side.

What exactly are the specializations? I am assuming they're not the classes, then what are they?

>>36130523
Rules bloat is my ultimate reason to reject this. We're in the final stages of the alpha, and promoting a Disney-like mechanic would be nice, if this felt like that at all. As it stands, it's another + a number mechanic with flimsy justification behind it.

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Hey um. I know it was debated on whether or not to include BH6 in this since the tech level is way advanced compared to the rest of the world concepts. But I think it could honestly be included in japan for a particular area. Perhaps that could be the real reason why three major villain groups are all vying for power over it. and with the tech level of atlantis i think its at pleast plausible. Just putting in my two cents is all. Mostly because I just got back from seein the movie and well...all the feels bros. all the feels.

>>36130039
Hmm, the trouble I'm noticing is that some relationships aren't equal. For example, I think Elsa is pretty much distrustful of just about everyone but Hades is neutral towards her. He couldn't care less. She's paranoid.

We need a bigger chart...

>>36130427
I remember the baptism, of not just me. Of paris. I remember the flames, the screams. And by god, the bells. The very bells of notre dame, singing their praise as sinners burned. And my father, he turned to me and said "My lamb, I realize now your purpose is not of that a devil. But tis a blessing in dusguise. Now look upon the flames and be reborn a new in gods light. Be reborn, touched by god."

The lights blind me as i exit the church, my tool strapped to my back. The guard now lies on his knees, my father sitting in the shade. I trudge over, the guards blond hair hiding his sin filled eyes. I look out and upon the crowd, their eyes all compelling me on. Sinners blood is for what they thirst, and so shall I open the tap.

The axe swings down, gods light and m own satisfaction giving it glorious purpose. I sweep the head from the basic, my heart pumping, blood following down my arms abd fire pulsating through my veins. I scream out in glory

"GLORY DEUS VULT PONTIFEX IMMORTALIS. TO MY FATHER AND HIS, BE REBORN IN THEIR LIGHT"

Quasimoto is dead
Touché par Dieu ia born

>>36130614
YES. We get it. The feels are real.
Its not showing up until the modern expansion. Get the fuck over it.

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>>36130614

We are really done with that discussion by now bro, sorry. Pic related.

Never ever make decisions based on movies that you like when you have just seem them, they are not going to be smart one

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So will a possible Eurocentric campaign involve joining the New Round Table?

>>36130652
He wouldn't have been pontifex or immortal yet, but the rest of the story was very good.

Fallacier's KLR
>>36127660
>>36127772

>>36130640
Yeah. Similarly, Cherno likely views Frollo as a useful pawn, but Frollo might not even be fully aware that Cherno is his true god.

Oh wow people are arguing.
>>36130605
I fail to see how my mechanic is a "+ number mechanic with flimsy justification behind it". Could you explain? I've specifically explained the reasons behind each bonus, and they're intended to push a certain feel into the game.

>>36130454
>The following things must still be done before the game is ready to play:
>Power list for each class, complimenting each specialization (what are these?) (probably 3).
>Setting-based powers, like something Barter based for Shadowlands PCs, or tech-related for Atlanteans.

Actually, the first launch is going to be whenever I can get my group scheduled.

They're all interested, and we're going to play the Headless Horseman adventure I set up.

I'm working on getting the stats for all my NPCs as we speak.

I'm hoping to record the thing, too.

>>36130703
I honestly feel that Cherno shouldn't feel anything about anyone. No one Evil is a threat because he is the god of Evil and them whether they like it or not. A God of Evil scheming after 'taking down' the one thing that's a threat to him (God) shouldn't be a thing that exists because it humanizes him. He shouldn't be humanized because he's EVIL INCARNATE.

>>36130759
>I'm hoping to record the thing, too.
Can't wait. I hope you have a neat rig and you guys aren't too fa/tg/uy

>>36130762
Hence he is Hostile to everyone (except some of the equivalent powers like The Firebird).

>>36130732
The issue with the mechanic is that it's poorly defined, feels house rule-y with how it's implemented, requires a level of cooperation on the players part to not metagame at all (which is quite difficult for most players) is added late in our development, makes certain assumptions about the players, adds very large, statistics-ruining bonuses at unclear times, and honestly just isn't necessary for most groups.

>>36130460
If you feel like taking that project on we'd definitely be appreciative, but don't feel obligated to do it if you don't want to!

>>36130759
Will you just be giving them powers or what? That's a core part of everyone's Will points.

>>36130833
Indifferent is better but as long as people don't go 'FROLLO A PAWN TO CHERNO ALPHA'. Frollo doesn't need a supernatural reason to be a dick; he already is.

>>36130837

Beast King I suppose?

> The King: King John of England
After disposing of the his elder Brother Richard the Lionheart and imprisoning Robin Hood and his Merry men, Prince John seized the crown and with it rule over the remnants of Animal-England. Although he is not a strong military strategist, King John is a master of politics and strategy, making key alliances and exploiting the abilities of his right hand man Sir Hiss to hypnotize those who would oppose into subordination. He is extremely greedy and is primarily concerned with wealth and precious treasures rather than expanding his borders.

>The Land
John rules over the land as a capitalist dictator, aside from the royal castles the land is littered with small impoverished towns where the animal citizens of his realm attempt to make enough to pay taxes. Those who cannot afford to pay their taxes are taken into slavery and forced to work in mines and other physical labour camps. Grandiose castles hold the nobility and those who are in favor with King John. Outside of the settlements and castles, the countryside's temperate forests are rapidly being exploited for their natural resources leaving few places for anyone to hide from the King's Regime.
> The Rule:
King John exploits all who lives within his realm through extremely high taxes and maintains his rule through the brutish enforcement led by his General, the former Sheriff of Nottingham and Captain Crocodile.
He has a large army comprised of trained Guard Rhinoceros, Wolf archers and keen eyed Vulture guardsmen surrounding his castles.
He also uses the hypnotism powers of Sir Hiss to keep those who would oppose him in line .
If worst come to worst, King John has amassed a large treasury and is able to bribe and barter to further his goals.

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>>36129486
Posting the latest official map based off this suggestion
Changes:
>I figured out how to do the line thingy
>India to Khan
>North east india to Kaa (with sea regions for direct access)
>Bagheera contests north India
>King Louis contests east India

>>36130837
Okay now just saying from observation but dude you have a fetish for statistics.

>>36130909
It feels weird for Frollo and Maleficient to have a border which isn't contested.

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>>36130640
>>36130703
Well, here's an alternate version of the chart if you want to give that a go.
>>36130683
I like 'em, I worked them into one of my fluff stories.

>>36130905
England is under the total control of the Horned King. Generally accepted idea is that Prince John fled to the Pridelands and is petitioning Scar to help him reclaim his birthright.

Nice ideas in case the Horned King is beaten and John manages to get the crown back though.

>>36130891

Eh, he can always treat them as fear-resistance and hero-moment points.

Tzekel-Kan's KLR
>>36128283
>>36128291

>>36130948
That border lies along a mountain range.

>>36130971
As the writer of that, I'd like to add his special rule: Paranoia. People of El Dorado are highly suspicious of outsiders, particularly anyone who looks like they're not from the region. Unless you've got a damn good disguise, a visit to a village will likely end at a sacrificial altar.

And don't try the god bluff. It won't work.

>>36131044
>Hades visits El Dorado
>They try and sacrifice him
>No really, I'm a fucking god
>Nice try, cigar butt. We're not falling for that again.

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No, seriously. What ARE the specializations here?

>>36131102
MAKE THIS HAPPEN

>>36130837
That's a lot of words that have very little meaning or substance. Nothing you just said has any real meaning except for 'stasitics-ruining', and you'd need to back that up with specific examples of how adding in specific, hard-to-get bonuses ruins any of the numbercrunching.

>>36130614
I've made the arguements. Anon's mind is set on this one.
Just wait till we go to space. Then we'll show em

>>36130891
I was going to talk to them about it. Since they're first level, unless one of them really wants to be a magic user, I don't plan on giving them any.

The three will/heart points I'm going to be using as re-roll options, for now.

>>36130954
Wouldn't having John having at least one last region holdout or castle in England (Nottingham perhaps) be more interesting?

>>36131199
We're running out of colors, you know.

>>36131199
The problem is that there's no fucking way John can possibly maintain a holdout. The Horned King simply outclasses him by orders of magnitude in every possible way.

>>36131199
It doesn't mesh with the Horned King's canon. The Cauldronborn are relentless and spread via Cauldron Fog. The only reason he hasn't marched across the Continent yet is because he has to physically transport the Cauldron Fog over the channel (it doesn't cope well with water). He dominates the British Isles with ease however. Cowardly John fled before him.

>>36131189
That's the idea. The Sci fi splat will be Star Wars, Buzz Lightyear, Marvel, treasure planet, wall-e, and the other space/Sci fi things.

>>36131303
Not Marvel and very little Star Wars.

You forgot Lloyd in Space

>>36130950
Archiving all the fluff may take a while, apparently I can only make 10 pastebins per 24 hours.
Anyone got any better ideas?

>>36131332
put it in a .txt doc and upload it to fileshare/mediafire/wherever?

>>36131331
>>36131303
What about the Muppets?

>>36131332
Google docs or 1d4chan?

>>36130950
After having a go, I decided to rate pretty much everyone evil with Neutral for the Horned King. Who would he be Hostile towards? I think maybe the Aurora, since it's not evil per se and it might be one of the few entities to contest him power-wise.

>>36131358
Meant Cherno, not the King.

>>36131358
Well, don't forget that it goes both ways. The Horned King might not be hostile to the Pontifex, but you KNOW that Frollo has a happy vision of the Cauldronborn all a-flame.

>>36131351
They're on Pleasure Island performing for The Coachman.

>IIIIIII've got no strings to hold me down

>>36131354
Google doc works, I guess, I'll give that a try.
>>36131358
Most of the beasts would probably be untrustworthy, the more good ones like Bagheera would actively hate him.

>>36131387
Same point. I think we had a bit of fluff that said that Hades wouldn't mind seeing Chernoblublub bite the dust.

>>36130950
>>36130039
>>36129917
There's an awful lot of red, to the point of it being slightly meaningless.

Maybe at an "at war," to distinguish abject hatred from full conflict or rivalries.

Like, for example, the Carnotauri and the Elite Hunter's club. Eternal rivals. Should be given some special representation.

>>36131244
Pretty sure there's more than ~30 colors.
>>36131249
>>36131269
Yeah, that does make sense. It's better to keep the Horned King as the absolute ruler, otherwise Madame Mim would probably have a bit before John would.
I was simply going on the fact that Mor'du had managed to maintain a foothold in Scotland.

>>36131409
Jafar probably isn't too fond of him either.

>>36131390
Or maybe

>IIIIII've got no limbs to hold me up

>>36131409
I meant more, would Cherno be hostile to people who he didn't have any sway over (je Bagheera or Rourke) or would he only recognize entities in his weight class, like the Firebird?

>>36131119
Specializations are per class.
Strongman: I heard Knight as in a mounted soldier be suggested, along with Champion for a armored footman, and a Brawler for a Brawl focused Strongman.

For Nimble guys I heard Acrobats, Thieves, and Sharpshooters.

For Smart guys I heard Sage (scholar?) Alchemist, and Mechanic.

For Sensible guys I'm not sure. Priests? Doctors?

For Charismatic guys, we have Musicians, Charmers, and something else.

Could Jafar and Queen La be allied? Is she Islamic? I know she's not East African but it might be a nice pairing.

>>36131136
You fail to justify why it needs to be in, instead of a vague suggestion to the GM that perhaps they should grant bonuses if the players are particularly in sync, or penalties if they're arguing. Why do we need to put in a mechanic for this?

>>36131468
>one plot hook could be trying to crash Jafar and Queen La's political marriage.

>>36131453
Charismatic: Musicians, Rogues and Diplomats.

>>36131480
Queen La's appearance in Tarzan involved her trying to take him as a mate because he was a perfect physical specimen. I don't think she'd be too terribly interested in Jafar even from a political standpoint.

It would make for interesting international dynamics though, as Rourke considers the former Atlantean colony of Opar as rightful Republic clay

So Cedric the Sorcerer and Princess Ivy Have rule over Enchancia right?

>>36131331
I only mention Marvel because people want to add Big Hero 6. While it's an animated movie it is a Marvel property. Also cause after Chernabog I think a good next step would be Thanos, but that's just me.

>>36131602
Tarzan was shot and killed by Clayton. La never met him. Just make her a closet muslim and have her union with Jafar be about uniting the Sunni Caliphate across Africa and the Middle East.

Nice call on Rourke though.

While the thread is hopping, I'd like people's opinion on the Beast Species statistics. Any complaints/questions? http://pastebin.com/ZNVPBJWj

>>36131657
I am utterly and completely opposed to anything that is part of the MCU or the main Marvel comic canon. They just don't belong in the same world.

I feel similarly about Star Wars but I can begrudgingly cope with a few references to it while the actual Star Wars setting is far, far away.

>>36131303
The villains from Lilo & Stitch also I assume?

>>36131716
And Jumba, who doesn't get a chance of redemption in this setting. he continues to be a mad scientist.

>>36131690

Those look pretty great

The traits are all available for purchase, or all already from the beginning?

>>36131660
Honestly she doesn't even need to be a closet Muslim. They're both pragmatic enough to do it fore solely political reasons.

>>36129027
>Jafar has the tin ear trait
Humiliate The Boy - Deleted Song From "Aladdin": http://youtu.be/W9vXZncjGvk

>>36131453

So they aren't anything oficially mechanic, only flavor choices? If you decide to focus on Brawl you call yourself a champion, if you get on a horse, a knight?

Also, for the Sensible guys... Empath, Doctor, and...dunno, Keepers?

>>36131986
I think they're attached to the species, and take up two of your three starting traits. If you want to exchange them, ask the GM.

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added a new color to the Alliance/War chart to help remove some of the red.
Yellow is 'don't like and would strangle for a bent pin, but will deal with if necessary.'
Red is basically 'HUNT TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH AND DIE IF IT MEANS I CAN TAKE THEM WITH ME!'

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>>36132084
Bretty good.

>>36132084
So why is the Coachman listed as hostile to the Shikigami? Why would they care about each other?

Also, I can't imagine Rourke wouldn't be at least distrustful toward the guy.

>>36132071

Got it, noice.

>>36132227
Shikigami doesn't care. Shikigami HATES.

>>36132227
the shikigami are hostile to everyone that's not a friend, since they're more a force of nature I decided to leave them as either friendly/neutral or KILLDIEKILL

>>36132084
Minor nitpick: Rourke would probably be Hostile towards Yzma and Tzekel-Kan, as both border the Panama Canal Zone.
Also, it's really weird for Frollo to be Allied with Hans and At War with Grimhilde when Hans is a vassal of Grimhilde. I suppose they might be secretly plotting together, but I don't think Hans is stupid enough to plot against someone who is effectively all-knowing.

>>36132227
The Coachman basically provides slaves to people. It's more mutual profit than genuine trust.

Take Jafar. He's a pretty fucking underhanded guy, but he keeps the money and goods flowing, so he's rightfully green with most factions.

What's a little spying or skirmishes between friends?

>>36132084
I think Kan should be hostile to Frollo, given that they're both zealots for their own religion and that Kan is the reason Mesoamerica isn't under the Church.

>>36132271
When I was moving colors around I only gave thought when I was changing the red squares, I also noticed that Maleficent and HK are Distrustful instead of At War as well.

>>36132304
I changed them to Hostile because no doubt that would be the case... if they ever met. But they barely know the other exists and have other, more important things to take care of than bashing in the head of a guy across the ocean

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So Alameda Slim has no place in this canon at all?
;_;

>>36132395
His pants are too big for this setting.

>>36132395
Nigga where you been, he got all the Southwest.

>>36132084
Looks fine to me.
>>36131394
Okay, I think I got all of the story fluff. Right now it's just in order of post, may need to be reorganized later.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8

>>36132395
We nerfed him out after he yodel-hypnotized the firebird and one-shotted chromobugle

>>36131432
I imagined that was because those were the Highlands and Cauldron fog would have trouble going uphill.

>>36132457
Or it's possible some kind of ward was put in place..

>>36132442
Is he really not in the setting anymore?
I wanted to play a COWBOY DINOSAUR, and that's the only place I can see it coming from.

>>36132523
Of course hes still here.

>>36132523
He is in the setting, it's just a part that's not really talked about much because there isn't much to talk about.

Unless you want to add in Rango as another honorary Disney film. It doesn't change the map at all since the plot was just to create a resort town.

>>36132523
No, he's still sitting pretty and happy. I've never seen a version of the map without him.

Honestly, Slim is the real success story here. The fact that the villain of one of the least-liked Disney films ever can be a major factor of the setting is pretty dang impressive.

>>36132556
More like we've talked as much as we possibly could. We've established his realm fairly well, and have set him up to be a actual threat. We actually have more fluff about Slim than Scar.

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>>36132574
Well, it obviously pays to be one of the few animated characters from the only other movie set in the West.

Plus, who doesn't love a Yodelin desperado who rides a dinosaur via exploiting Disney princess animal singing magic?

>>36132643
>Sing? Little-bitty snot nosed children sing
>Alameda slim yodels, and yodelin' IS AN ART

>>36132395
You know, i heard from a few threads ago, Slim has the four big American tall Tales heros as Rough riders, Johnny apple seed, Casey johns, Paul Bunion and Pecos bill. Maybe we should work on them a bit? Because together, I could see them actually being some what comparable to Hades Titans

So the Hand of Midas lives in the vanishing isle, which itself usually lives under the sea.

Seems to me that it's a pretty natural target for Rourke, if he finds out about it

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Changes made:
Maleficent now Warring with HK
HK Warring with Hades
Dinosaur made Hostile to any without ties to nature or Cherrybod (too scary to bite, basically)
Rourke now Hostile with Yzma and Kan, Distrustful of Coachman
Frollo Hostile with Hans (Yes he's Warring with his overlord, but as >>36130077 said, lipservice has been paid)

>>36132697
Pecos, I can see, but Johnny, Casey, and Paul are too nice to be bandit rough riders. Casey in particular - Slim ROBS trains, he doesn't ride them.

Does the Nautilus still prowl the depths of the seas?

Okay, here's another concept character:
Billy Slick
Size Large (Allosaurus) Agile Guy
ROBUSTNESS: 10/14
Agility: 12/12
Intelligence: 6
Sensibility: 6
Charm: 8

Skills:
Ranged: 3
Travel 1
Linguistics (Human) 1
Intimidate 1
Prevent Harm 1
Endure 1
Brawl 1 (+4 more due to racial traits)
Music (yelling harmonically): 1

Traits:
Impossible Strength: +2 to Strength cap
Bonecruncher: Ignore armor on Brawl rolls.
Bull Charge: +2 to Brawl when charging into combat.
Don't you disrespect me little man!: +3 to Intimidate if this character or anyone in their party has taken a Social Strike this scene.

Natural weapons: Maw and Smash
Powers:
Tyrant's Roar: Spend a Will Point to gain +10 to an Intimidate roll, and it affects everyone within a hundred meters instead of one target.
Ride'm!: No matter if it be some strange horse or a bony fish or an even bigger lizard, Billy Slick is capable of riding anything able to carry his massive weight.
Heroic Sights: When fighting with a Revolver, Billy Slick may spend a Will point to gain a +5 roll to hit a specific target (i.e, knocking the weapon out of someone's hands.)

Ideals:
Heroically shoot things.
Ride something, animal or machine.
Stop bandits and outlaws.

Goals: Ride a Tyrannosaurus Rex from Madagascar
Shut down the Old West Hunting League branch.
Deal a crushing blow to the Shadowlands.

Tell me what you think.
>>36132617
Sorry, I'm tired and all the stuff I should have done for this thread isn't done yet... i need to go back to editing 1d4chan...

>>36132755
Live-action Disney characters rarely get a showing unless they're filling a distinct niche. Might be in a splatbook, but Nemo's not a man for big world-changing events anyway.

>>36132784
I would imagine he is trying to liberate India from beast oppression

>>36132769
Did you make a goddamn cowboy Allosaurus?
That is.. I can't...

I think Yzma said it best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ke87AhXxag

>>36132748
True, but if you look at it from the view of the Rough Riders being the bandit-sheriffs of the west, it kinda works. Besides, Pecos Bill is bad ass enough on his own. Fucker wrassled a Tornado

WHERE IS THE SINGING
NEEDS MORE SINGING

MUSICALS

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>>36132686
>http://youtu.be/B00nfVc4FPI

>>36132821
Who knows how he draws and holds that revolver.


>>36132829
Music skill gives bonuses to your allies, and I'm working on some Powers using Music Song Combat.

>>36132697
You can also use Rico the bounty hunter, who was also from Home on the Range.

>>36132748
>>36132826
They're not all Rough Riders, the Rough Riders are Slim's personal guard. The 4 American Tall Tales are his border guard, basically, Paul Bunyan up north, Pecos Bill west, Casey Jones east and Johnny Appleseed south.

>>36132851
That makes more sense. I'd imagine (with the exception of Pecos) it'd be more of a "better you than them" situation, though.

>>36132851
I just can't see Johnny anywhere near Mexico, wouldn't it make more sense to have him West and Bill in the South?

>>36132875
Johnny never really made it out west, though I guess it would make more sense for him to be east, usin' apples and the good word to help deal with Facilier's shadows.

>>36132838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67rc96joOz8

>>36132851
Ah, I see.

Casey jones is the only man brave or stupid enough to run a train through the shadowlands to Virginia . They say the bastard rips down the tracks so fast, even facillier's friends have difficulty keeping up.

Paul Bunion: hes a woodsman by heart, and rumors say that he is human manifestation of the Aurora Borealis

Pecos Bill: Perhaps the most legendary, his exploits have ranged from digging the grand canyon to wrassling a Tornado. Hes next goal? Take down the Fire bird. And if any man can do it, that man is Bill.

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Atlantis/Frozen writefag here again. Managed to find a break inbetween midterms, and I managed to eke something out. You guys interested?

>>36132904
Bring on the fluff!

>>36132904
that is a dumb question

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What about The Thief and the Cobbler? Disney technically distributed it at one point, even if it's now universally regarded as the worst version of the film. Does Zigzag get a piece of the action, maybe as one of Jafaar's vassals? Or maybe One Eye, as a barbarian civilization Agrabah just about stamped out.

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>>36132889

>>36132838

Will the Queen of Hearts from Wonderland be making incursions into the real world?

>>36132904
We're always interested.
>>3613293
No.

>>36132904
My only suggestion is to turn up the lethality of Arendelle(the air freezes there) and add in Ice!Anna.

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>>36132919
>>36132920
>>36132942
>>36132932

Taking that as a yes, then!

--

A crisp morning greeted Thach’s squad as they walked down one of the access ramps leading to the base camp. A tent city had sprung up overnight, the fruits of the engineering and logistic teams’ efforts, servicing any and all of the soldiers’ needs. A long, open-ended canvas structure bordered one end of the campsite, allowing for trucks, jeeps, and light tanks to be refueled and rearmed. A cluster of tents toward the center served as the main camp hub, providing food, warmth, and shelter. Neat rows of smaller tents dotted the right side, temporary living for the work crews that had worked arduously under the light of the waxing moon.

Thach and her squad stepped to the side as a bulldozer rumbled down the access ramp onto the waiting snow. She breathed deep, savoring the slight warmth the sun provided against the cold snow. “Feels good to be getting some fresh air and stretch our legs,” she said.

“I’m just glad we don’t have to eat any more of what Cookie passes off as ‘food’,” Zoe shuddered. “One more day of biscuits and beans and I would have stuffed the man’s ladle down his throat. And all that lard—”

“Little bit o’lard never killed nobody,” Lahey chuckled. “Cookie’s a good chef, but his cornbread needs some work.”

“And that’s why I like you, Zeke,” Womack said, hopping down onto the ice. “Never heard ya say a bad word about anyone that didn’t deserve it.”

>>36132930
If she can link up the Cheshire Cat's shortcuts in time, she sends her forces through to the real world. She wants Alice back in Wonderland so she can use the girl's dreaming abilities for herself. Alice is terrified of going back to Wonderland though, so she's taken refuge with the Elite Global Huntsmen's Club, who have agreed because there's no shortage of strange beasts for them to slaughter while defending her.

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>>36132956

Bernadette Leroy looked across the whole squad, tilting her head. “Hey Captain—where’s our diplomatic tagalong?”

“Miss Beckett will be meeting us at the staging area—said she needed to make some ‘last minute’ wardrobe changes,” Thach said, using air quotes around the words “last minute”.

“Ten bucks says she’s wrapped up like a marshmallow,” Tyresse grinned, ducking his head to dodge an errant snowball.

Kavita sneezed, her cheeks flushed. “Cap, why’d you detail us out into the middle of the fucking tundra, anyway?”

“Cold bothering you, Kavita?” Thach called back.

“I was just wondering why we couldn’t have contracted out to somewhere a little bit warmer—like anti-piracy operations under contract with the East India Company or shipping lane security around the horn of Africa,” Kavita adjusted the rifle holstered on her right shoulder.

“Anti-piracy is only fun when you actually run into pirates—and even then, it’s more of a turkey shoot than a straight-up fistfight when you can just lance their ship with a bolt of lightning and break it in half,” Thach answered matter-of-factly. “Besides, aren’t you a fan of adventure?”

“I’m a fan of living to actually spend my paycheck!” Kavita turned to the Chinese mountain walking next to her. “C’mon, Pan, don’t you agree with me? Wouldn’t you rather be giving pirates the business than playing babysitter?”

>>36132959
I like the sound of that.

What about Oz?
Disney has made a few Oz movies and I feel like they would mesh well as one of the realms accessible from Earth.

I'm just thinking of a war between the Witches of Oz and the Queen of Hearts of Wonderland now.

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>>36132972

“I will manage.” The Chinaman grunted, hefting the enormous power pack on his back. “And so will you.” He patted the shorter Indian girl on the head.

Kavita sighed. “Thanks anyway, ya big lug.” Pan grunted in reply.

The squad’s ramblings had brought them to the base camp’s staging area, a patch of ice facing outwards to the city of Arendelle proper. Two trucks and a loose collection of soldiers awaited the six-man team, milling about, smoking, or making small talk. Lieutenant Jun Aramaki grinned as he saw the form of his commanding officer walk toward him. “Well,” he clicked his tongue, smiling. “I almost thought you weren’t going to come.”

“Please, and let you have all the glory?” Thach returned the smile, embracing her XO. “Got your team ready?”

“To a man,” Jun said. “We’ll be right behind ya every step of the way.”

“Good, good.” Allyson nodded.

Jun craned his head around Thach, counting the number of heads. “So where’s the, uh—”

“Uniform difficulties.”

“Ah.” Jun sealed his lips into a thin line, breathing through his nose. He rocked back and forth on the heels of his toes. “So, uh, great weather, eh?”

Thach smiled at Jun. “You’re terrible at small talk, you know that?”

>>36132982
It's unlikely, but we'd have to consider it carefully. Right now the other worlds are in sets of threes.
Three good other worlds: Wonderland, Neverland, Hundred Acre Wood.
Three bad other worlds: The Underworld, The Locker and The Other Side
Some of the more planar-aware villains are trying to take control of the good other worlds, like Facilier.

Where (if anywhere) does the island of naboombu fit into all of this? Substitutiary Locomotion seems like a pretty nifty trick to have on hand.

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>>36133006

“Yeah, well,” Jun nervously chuckled. “How’s your sister?”

“She asked about you in her last letter. Said you looked really nice in your dress uniform.” Thach’s smiled turned into a full-blown grin at that. “Really admired your ‘trim shoulders’.” She giggled.

“Trim shoulders.” Jun clicked his tongue. “Never gotten that one before.”

He would have gone on if it weren’t for the sudden interruption created by the entrance of what might have passed for a woman if she weren’t smothered by several layers of thick clothing. “My word, you people get up so early!” Catherine said, words muffled under a thick scarf. “I hope I hadn’t kept you waiting too long.”

“Not too terribly long at all, Miss Beckett,” Thach said. “Though I must ask what on earth you are wearing.”

“You look like a marshmallow with legs,” Jun interjected.

“What? We’re going up a mountain, aren’t we?” Catherine flapped her arms. “Who’s to say I won’t be needing a parka, a sweater, a thick turtleneck, and a scarf about my face—all of that over my thermals? Frostbite is dangerous, I’ll have you know!”

“Can you even pull your own arms down?” Thach had to hold herself back from laughing.

“It’s very difficult.” Catherine said dejectedly. “But no matter! Let us be off! To adventure and fortune!”

The pair of squadleaders watched the emissary waddle over to the trucks before looking back at each other. “She seems fun.” Jun smiled.

Thach shot her XO a look. “Don’t you even start.”

>>36133057
That one was kind of up in the air, it'd been discussed as a hideout for Prince John after being evicted from England by the Horned King, but I don't think it was ever put on the map.

>>36133059
Quick question: is Captain Thach Milo Thach's daughter?

>>36133059
>“Yeah, well,” Jun nervously chuckled. “How’s your sister?”
> “How’s your sister?”
>sister

Oh, those poor bastards. Somebody's gonna say something and get thoroughly iced.

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>>36133059

I'll be taking a break here, guys--gotta take a shower and maybe grab some dinner. Be back in a pinch!

>>36133121
I have a quick little idea
The fake Anna convinces the team shes the real one, and shit goes down because of it

>>36132748
Then they're sympathetic villain lieutenant guys. So mid-tier shonen/kung-fu movie villains, basically. But in the Old West.

>>36133153
She's made of ice, you know. Not exactly the most convincing of impostors.

>>36133168
Well, i assume they don't know much. Besides, she is claiming to be sister of the Snow Queen.

How the fuck is the timestream supposed to even theoretically work?
Characters like Elsa would be dead by the time Rourke was born.

>>36133211
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ugebzq3juE

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>>36133211
Time cataclysm. The times aren't relative to history but rather all shortly after the villains win-- even if it should be centuries apart.

>>36133015
So I just need to come up with two other planes to make three neutral realms?

How is a Queen of Heart controlled wonderland still a good realm?

>>36133078
I like that idea.

>>36133211
Generally there are two explanations.

- Various characters have devised means of becoming immortal (Rapunzel hair, undeath, Atlantean crystals, general magic).
- Time has been severely mucked with by all the magic and science being thrown around.
- Shut up and ride your dinosaur.

>>36133211
Chernabog threw everything out of whack when he gave God the boot. He crafted the most evil and chaotic world he could to help cement his power.
>>36133238
It technically was a good realm, but the Queen of Hearts has taken over since Alice is too afraid to set things right.
As for Oz, I dunno, you'd have to wait for the Cartographer and a couple of the other settings guys to get back on, I'm mainly here for fluff.

>>36131468
>>36131480

What if Queen La actually loved him whilst Jafar only cared for the political advantage

>>36133238
>queen of hearts wonderland
It's not the Other Side, or hell, or Davy Jones Locker.

>>36133255
*three

>>36133274
Why such binary morality?

>>36133350
Because those places are Very Bad. North Korea would be a Good realm by comparison if only by magnitude.

Also, this is Disney. Get a bit more youthful in your thought process.

>>36129027
>the Horned King
Sorry, I just had to give props for this.

Best Disney villain ever.

>>36133274
I personally feel that the only way you can enter wonderland is ethier by alice or deep sleep

which is why it would be so difficult to have in this, as wonderland would basically be a 1 in a million plothook or would only involve 1 player unless you pulled an Inception

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Atlantean writefag here. Back with snacks and fresh from a cold shower!

>>36133092

I've been debating this question for awhile. When picking names for the characters, I had two lists to grab from: XCOM soldier names--Zoe, Liang, and Bernadette were part of my last few playthroughs--and famous generals and TV show characters. Thach came from the latter, and it was only after I started writing that I realized that it was the same as the protagonist from the movie. All that being said, my answer to the question is I'm leaving it to the audience to decide if she's the offspring of the movie's intrepid archaeologist, though my position may change as the story goes along.

congratulations you will be turned into a skellington the painless way when we find you

>>36133482
Milo's last name was Thatch, actually. Close enough to leave one wondering, still.

>>36133449
>>36133490
sorry about that i had to re-kill the messanger

>>36129027
Is it too late to suggest new villains? I have a write up of a good one that I haven't seen mentioned and didn't type out until today.

Xanatos from Gargoyles

>>36133562
>Xanatos from Gargoyles
We're sticking to Disney villains at the moment with two exceptionsbut feel free to type him up and include him as optional content.

>>36133562
I'm not sure how I feel about a modern New York City when Radcliffe is supposed to still be in power over nearly the whole of east North America.
The mood should generally be fantastical instead of an attempt at cashing in on the success of Batman TAS.

>>36133562
cant
he already won

What happened to Phoebus, Quasimodo and Esmeralda? I assume Phoebus just got executed with the entire Gypsy population of Europe and Esmeralda was forced to marry Frollo (Who really shouldn't be a lich). I guess Quasimodo just got executed too?

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>>36133619
Gargoyles IS a Disney series
>>36133644
We have already established that time is borked, and gargoyles was fantastical as hell.

With that in mind:

>King: David Xanatos – All according to plan.
>For all appearances, Xanatos is merely a normal (if exorbitantly wealthy) man who controls a single city with a small but well respected army. Yet he wields power all out of proportion to his humble appearances. His supposed master, Govenor Radcliffe, allows him almost total autonomy and consults him on all important decisions, Doctor Facilier is said to owe at least two big favors, Queen Maleficient is rumored to bow and curtsey to him, and even Ultrapowerful entities like the Firebird have been seen inexplicably altering their paths to avoid destroying him or his projects, although none of these things can be definitively proven.

>Land: New York city – Crossroads of the world
>New York is accorded neutral territory, recognized by all world powers (at least the ones capable of rational thought). Representatives from the various empires can often be seen near the rebuilt United Nations building. Peace in this diverse environment is strictly enforced by the hulking Gargoyles- some are flesh and blood, some are wholly Robotic, and some are power armored humans, but all utterly devoted to Xanatos.
>It also boasts a technology level second only to Atlantis, and its lucky citizens enjoy a standard of living most normal people of the Villains Victorious world can only dream of, with numerous luxuries like running water, electricity and air conditioning commonly available.

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>>36133508

That "t" notwithstanding, I'm still leaving it up for grabs--keeps things loose.

That being said, back into it!

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It was not long before two trunks trundled up and over the ice, in the direction of the harbor-city of Arendelle proper. Thach’s squad was in the lead truck, Jun’s was in the chasing truck. The town came into greater detail as the pair of trucks steadily got closer and closer. The castle looked to be in remarkable shape—ice caked over the windows and snow had caused the roof to fall in in several places, but the castle overall remained relatively intact.

Catherine bounced in her seat as the truck rumbled over another small bump. He eyed the rest of the squad with her in the back of the truck. The French woman—Bernadette, was that her name, she thought—was thumbing through rosary beads with her right hand, lips moving wordlessly. The large Chinese man she knew as Liang was sleeping, seemingly unmoved by the bumps of the ride. Kavita had her eyes downcast, drumming her fingers along the stock of her rifle. Womack fished a pack of cigarettes from a coat pocket on his uniform. Captain Thach produced a lighter from one of her pockets, asking for another cigarette. The Australian girl—Zoe, she knew her name for sure—was looking out the back of the truck.

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>>36133888
>Rule: Xanatos is a merchant first and foremost and will be receptive to any deal or trade that benefits him in some way, and by the time he finises discussing a deal it will usually benefit him. He seeks immortality for himself and will do and pay much for even a small clue to attaining it, but is also deeply concerned for his city and its citizens and will not do anything that puts them at risk.
>Players on good terms with Xanatos will have a reliable place to buy information, sell artifacts, or arrange meetings with even the most powerful individuals. Players on bad terms with Xanatos will find the difficulty of their journey multiplied as supplies become scarce, neutral groups become hostile and even staunch allies have their power or loyalty undermined.
>Xanatos cannot be defeated directly and all outcomes of any situation he is involved in leave him at least as well off as when he started. Examples: if the players “kill” him, his corpse is discovered to be a robotic duplicate designed to study their abilities; if the players convince him to attack a mutual enemy they will find his army already prepped and ready to go; if the players steal a powerful magic item from him it will turn out to belong to the Horned king, who will stop at nothing to get it back; and so on.

Players who complain that he is a mary sue will discover their work/school schedule changed in such a way that they must leave the game

>>36133871
most likely...
wait frollos a lich now?

>>36133619
also in regards to Xanatos, since he pretty much won.
surely if anything hed be a fellow hero if this franchise was in the setting.
ethier that or his hideaway home is the location of The Hunters club and he merelt runs the club as an entreprenurial hobby.

>>36133871
Why would Quasimodo be executed? He's Frolo's favorite son.
Esmerelda still died, and Frollo is a lich because PONTIFEX IMMORTALIS FROLLO sounds better than Pope Frollo.

>>36133888
It's modern-day. The closest we have to modern-day is the Princess and The Frog. Moreover, we removed DOOM and DOOMTOWN for being too small and irrelevant, but especially due to being out of character, such as it is, for the setting.

Or, Cherrybomb just flies down and destroys him for being a smug shit.

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The pair of trucks rolled to a stop by one of the smaller docks, both squads dismounting quickly. Thach rallied both teams as they dismounted. “Orders here are simple,” she said. “My team will search the castle, Jun’s team will search the town. Anything shows the slightest inkling of hostility, you blast it. After we get done here, we’ll be able to bring in armor, establish a more permanent forward base. Everyone got that?” A chorus of affirmatives all around answered. “Good—let’s get to it.”

“My guys, let’s go!” Jun led his squad away in one direction, Thach led hers in another.

Kavita was on point as they started to shuffle across the causeway to the castle, Bernadette right behind her. Zoe, toward the rear of the formation, grimaced as she looked about. “There’s not even any birds out,” she muttered. “It’s a fucking graveyard.”

“More like a pet sematary,” Womack quipped, scanning the rooftops with his rifle.

Catherine gasped as they crossed the causeway. “It’s incredible is what it is.” She extended her arm and walked backwards as the squad crept along. “During the coronation ceremonies for the new royalty, this causeway would be packed with dignitaries from as far off as Corona!”

Ezekiel cocked his eyebrow. “Are you supposed to be our emissary or a tour guide?”

“I would have guessed cultural anthropologist,” Bernadette piped up.

>>36133919
Yeah, Chernoborg is his god now

And Xanatos runs the WORLD as an entrepreneurial hobby.

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>>36133888
are we stating that xanatos is secretly good or just plain bad here
because thats a huge point to consider if there is one safe zone for heroes

also are the gargoyles willingly doing this.
and most importantly is he still married to fox?

>>36133888
>>36133562
>>36133908
This has potential for the modern/sci-fi splat. Keep it around, and once we get to that bring it back up

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>>36133938

“Hold up.” Kavita stopped the formation in place right before the castle gates, a thin layer of frost covering them. “Pan, get over here—let’s see if we can force the gates open.”

“Roger that.” The Chinaman holstered the prototype’s nozzle and stepped forward to the door beside Kavita.

Kavita placed both her hands on the door. “Ready?” Pan nodded in turn. “On three. One, two—!” The doors pushed inward with surprising ease, the metal joints creaking from years of misuse. A small amount of dust flitted down from the top of the gate as the doors slammed back.

Another pair of doors presented themselves. “These must be the inner doors to the courtyard,” Catherine said. “And across from the courtyard should be the castle keep proper. The castle courtyard served as an outside assembly room for whenever the king and queen entertained—”

“Save the history lesson please, Miss Beckett,” Thach said. “Liang, Kavita—if you’d be so kind.”

I just realized that like 90% of the Disney Princes would get called mary sues by fa/tg/uys when this guy >>36133871 mentioned Phoebus.

>>36133989
Your character is a mary-sue in this world by definition due to your survival. You'll have few if any character flaws and generally be good at a lot of things, and even if you did have a character flaw by the end of your adventure it'll be overcome.

>>36133962
That'd be difficult seeing as he's contending with some real powers that can't be manipulated, and powers like the Other Side, Hades, Shishigami, the Animal Kings, Chernabog, the Dark One that just can't be reasoned with or manipulated.

>>36133989
well duh thats the entire point, every prince bar pheobus, alladin and (guy from frozen havent seen it) were generic romantic fuck toys

>>36134025
Kristoff was the guy in frozen. There wasn't one for Elsa.

Ryder wasn't a generic fuck toy.

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>>36133983

Unfortunately, the second set of doors didn’t relent. Pan gave two solid raps on the door. “Frozen shut,” he growled. He unclipped the nozzle attached to the power pack on his back. The pack itself resembled the offspring of a power transformer and a radio backpack. A pair of squat, short insulators jutted from the top of the pack. Thick, black tubing led from the side of the pack down to the “wand”, the repurposed nozzle from a flamethrower. The barrel had been cut down for only one pistol grip, a second, overhand grip placed behind the flared-out nozzle, shaped like the bell on a trumpet.

“Um, what’s he about to do?” Catherine looked on quizzically as the squad gave the heavy weapons specialist plenty of space, Thach pushing the diplomat herself back.

“Somethin’ I wanted to do,” Womack muttered.

“Stand clear!” Liang barked out behind him, right hand’s index finger locking back on the primary trigger. The insulators along the back of the pack slowly began to glow blue, plasma arcing between the gaps of their ribbed surfaces. The man’s left hand took a firm grip of the overhand grip. Pan inhaled, steadied his footing, and pulled back the valve.

>>36133888
>>36133908
This has potential, but I'd like to either keep it out of core for right now or somehow make the city an extension of Atlantis what with the level of tech we're dealing with.

>>36129194
With Kaa we decided to go more off his character from the jungle book story rather than from the movie. Rule of cool and all. Plus I mean he's a giant python with hypnotic abilities, he could be a great villain if he wasn't relegated to the goofy role he was in the movie.

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>>36134060

The world flashed blue and a bolt of lightning screamed out from the wand, impacting the frozen door and instantaneously splintering it. Liang throttled the overhand grip back as the bolt snaked its way into the courtyard, a thunderclap rocking the castle as he did. He smiled as the weapon spooled down, walking back to his comrades. “The path is clear,” he said simply.

“Well I’m certainly sure that R&D will be ecstatic in learning their latest prototype shall be the bane of doors everywhere.” Zoe chuckled as the squad moved through the gates and into the courtyard proper.

The years of neglect had shown clearly. Snow had piled considerably in the corners, creating slopes so high they reached the tops of the walls bordering the open space. The fountains so proudly on display had broken apart from years of misuse. The squad filed in quick and quiet, but immediately were halted by what they saw. “Mother of mercy,” Thach breathed.

Statues. Ice statues. Men, women, and children. They were scattered throughout the courtyard, stopped in mid-action. Faces set in terror. Some were buried in the snow that blanketed parts of the courtyard; others had been broken apart or were shattered. The squad filtered out in the courtyard, checking on the individual statues. “Were these...people?” Kavita asked, getting face-to-face with a woman posed like she was ice-skating.

“Oh man, this just took a really bad turn.” Womack grit his teeth.

>>36133935
Nah, he took Peter the Second as his Pope name.

If Xanatos is around
So is Shego out there somewhere?
All the Darkwing Duck villains ?

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>>36133962
>And Xanatos runs the WORLD as an entrepreneurial hobby.
Nah. Xanatos was a brilliant schemer when he was the only brilliant schemer around.
He's got actual competition in this setting, so he's probably only slightly ahead of the curve.
Again, I still don't think he should be used in the core game unless we make some drastic changes to New York and the circumstances of its existence.

>>36134128
Please, god no. We're so late in development for the core game...

>>36133971
>is Xanatos secretly good or just plain bad?
You never watched the show, did you? He's closer to lawful neutral than anything. He will keep his word and he will honor his deals to the letter, but even gods can't help you if you piss him off.
The zone is only "safe" so long as the players play by his rules. They can't even attack, say, their own personal worst enemy if they happen to walk by.

Either the original clan swore loyalty to him or he has been raising eggs he found on his own.

The man faced Lord Oberon without blinking to keep his family together, I think his home life is pretty safe.

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Pan growled, sneering as he prodded the statue of a servant who appeared to holding his rotund belly in pain.

“No way these things were carved.” Zoe carefully examined the look of terror on a woman’s face, body backed up against a pillar, extended arm having fallen off years ago.

“Bernadette, get over here!” The French woman sprinted across the courtyard at Thach’s call. Thach dialed in the frequency for Jun’s squad and depressed the transmitter. “Jun, this is Thach, copy?”

A moment passed. “We’re reading you Allyson. Got trouble on your end? Over.”

“Negative. We’ve just encountered these weird statues in the castle. They look way too detailed to have been crafted by human hands and they’re fucking everywhere. Over.”

“We’ve seen them, too. Like fucking Pompeii—this entire city’s been halted in a single moment. Over.”

“That’s the thing—some of the statues we’re seeing look like they’ve been...posed.”

“Posed?”

“Some weird shit’s going down out here, Jun. Keep on guard—I’m gonna relay this information to the Bellerophon. Over.”

“Roger—stay safe out there, Captain. Out.”

“You too, Lieutenant. Over and out.” Allyson then dialed in the frequency to the Bellerophon. “Bellerophon, this is Grizzly. Do you read? Repeating—this is Grizzly to AES Bellerophon.”

“We’re reading you loud and clear out there, Grizzly.” Admiral Swearengen’s voice buzzed over the comm. “What’s your status, over?”

>>36133871
>>36133935
Wait, so Quasimodo is alive? This pleases me.

Oh hey, she is in the castle! Neat. Gotta say, so far you're doing as well for Arendelle as you have for the Atlantean team.

Keep it up anon, you're doing the President's work.

>>36134195
Well, it's not definitive (because nothing is really, just go back through the threads -- i alone tend to get into an argument with someone about once a thread over something stupid) but at the moment the public opinion is that he's alive and a magicked servant of the PONTIFEX IMMORTALIS.

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A pause.

“Bellerophon copies all. We’ll be prepping a third team to check on the statues promptly. Continue your sweep and relay any other unusual activity. Bellerophon out.”

Thach let go of the radio receiver, running a hand through her hair. She looked to her left, seeing what appeared to be a mother and daughter set in ice, the mother clutching her daughter close, shielding her eyes from whatever horror perpetuated the atrocity. “This is some real horror story shit we’ve gotten ourselves into, Bernadette.”

The French woman sighed. “Like we’ve walked into a tomb, ma’am.”

The squadleader pinched the bridge of her nose with her thumb and forefinger, inhaling deeply. She caught her squad’s attention with a high-pitched whistle. “Alright, guys, stop oogling the statues—we gotta continue our search. Lahey—you’re on point. Take us into the castle.”

“Aye, ma’am.” Lahey nodded. “Let’s get goin’, fellas—on me!”

--

And that concludes that. Comments and critiques, as always, are appreciated.

>>36134195
Not only that, but he was tasked by Frollo to be the head executioner in the grand diocese. Quasimoto likes the arrangement, now able to get back at all the people who feared and hated him for his looks. At least, that's what Frollo tells him. He doesn't even need his gargoyle hallucinations anymore. Now he can see lots of people, and then without their heads.
Slowly he's becoming troubled, however, even with Frollo's stern chiding.

So I rewatched Atlantis recently and a thought just struck me. When Atlantis sank the earliest civilizations we know of wouldn't start making mud-brick buildings for another two millennium.

So who was Atlantis at war with that they posed a big enough threat for the king to attempt a Crystal-nuke on them?

>>36134237
Spooky, but good. Good mix of characters reminds you of the original Atlantis crew. I'll add it to the archive.

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>>36134298

Aliens, obviously.

But to be serious, I would assume, maybe, some Lovecraftian horror from beyond the stars like, I dunno, Hastur? Shub-Niggurath? Nyarlathotep?

>>36134298
Some other Antideluvian nation? Who knows.

>>36134398
Chernabog.

Or, another more ancient horror.

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A quick fluff piece, on that the PCs might actually get to experience.

The PCs barely hear the tiny yelp of distress, but they look down just in time to avoid stepping on a quivering cricket, dressed in the ratty clothes of a vagrant. He shivers in a huddled ball for a few moments before gazing up at them.

"Why... you're... you're not one o' them... the Shadow Man's slaves. Ya haven't made any... deals, have ya?"

The cricket hops to his feet and quickly scales one of the PCs, collapsing on a shoulder.

"Well, thank Walt I ran into ya, I haven't seen a friendly face in I don't know how many days! The name's Cricket, Jiminy Cricket, and I tell ya, it's been a tough road, tryin' to be a conscience to a world gone cuckoo! Folks under the Shadow Man's thumb don't even care what they do anymore, as long as they got a shot outta debt, and clearin' out Alameda Slim's casinos and saloons is just too much for one voice of reason to handle!"

The little cricket seems on the verge of a breakdown, and he chokes back tears.

"I... failed Pinnoke. Bein' his conscience was my first strike, so I tried recruitin' other bugs to lend a hand, see if they could turn an ear wherever they could. Evinrude... Cri-kee... all of 'em swatted down before they had a real chance to do some good in this rotten world. I hoped, prayed that Raymond wouldn't let me down, but the... the Shadow Man... he's determined that nothin' good should come outta his swamps..."

Jiminy begs the PCs on his knees.

"Please, please if you're decent folks, you gotta do somethin' about this moral breakdown! I'm just so... darned tired o' failin'! 'scuse the language there... but this is important! The more the world goes to pot, the stronger that... thing on the Bald Mountain gets! Ya just gotta help, ya just gotta!"

>>36134474
I like it a lot! 10/5 for being able to work in game mechanics and background details in a way that makes sense to the players.

>>36134298
I would assume another antediluvian civilization.

>>36134144
watched small amounts and know enough that hes basically god-tier villain.

its just that compared to every other villain hes argueably good

all he wants is to rule enough to have a great legacy. whilst that is a lot of villains motivations, he has the most kindest methods then most if not all of the disney villains.

thats why id thought his area would be more good considering him seeing the absolute horror from the others

basically its a case of
>would he plan to help heroes secretly so hed look good and more importantly have favours
>would his city be a refuge for escapees from other lands

with Xanatos City being 'the americian dream'

>>36134298 >>36134536
Civil war

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>>36134536

The only other thing that comes to mind are civilizations of Conan the Barbarian's times. Not sure where Atlantis would be relative to Hyperborea and Cimmeria, though.

>>36134580
Sounds a lot like Atlantis has been written, though Rourke's much more straightforward. Looks like New York belongs to Atlantis on the map too, so that might work out.

>>36134631
Maybe Xanatos should just be a person working under Roarke then?

>>36134650
If you want him pulling shenanigans in New York, he'd probably come into conflict with Sykes, who wants to run the city more ruthlessly.

>>36134650
what if xanatos was roarkes contractor the entire time? and he actually wanted the alantis tech?

did we ever come to a consensus on weapons?

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>>36134785
Most of the weaponry would be medieval-wild west tech

Modern/alantean tech would be in their appropriate areas but very rare

"WHAAAAAT!?"

Such a voice could shatter glass. And it did. Clayton would need to get a warranty on the new windows.

"HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CAPTURE ONE SINGLE LEOPARD??"

Cruella De Vil had founded the Elite Global Huntsman Club for a very specific purpose. However, it was clear that all the high-clearance members had goals of their own. Gaston and Clayton share a worried glance before turning their attention back to their -most generous- benefactor before the Englishman puts on a faux-smile.
"Now Ms. DeVil, I assure you that we are working 'round the clock to procure Sabor for you. We just ran into a few... complications when we-"

The woman slams her hand on the table in fury, her long, bony body wrapped in an oversized fur coat made of endangered white tiger, with an elegant cigarette holder between her fingers. The majesty of this finery was utterly destroyed by the hellish look on her face. "I have run into a 'complication' of my own! I was under the impression that you were the best in the world at HUNTING, not the best at MAKING EXCUSES!"

The Frenchman, not so well versed in subtlety, crosses his enormous arms as he regards Cruella with a look of hubris "No one hunts like Gaston! Just let me put a bullet in the beast from 200 yards and I-"

His speech was interrupted with a sharp backhand from the much thinner but just as tall woman. "You would ruin such a luxurious coat?? You idiot! I'm only months away from revealing my latest collection. I have made my entire fortune designing the height of fashion from only the finest, most exclusive of furs... and you know what none of them have? A BULLET HOLE!"

Clayton clears his throat, saving the man currently rubbing his hurt cheek from further tongue-lashing as the fur-crazed woman shifts her focus. "It's not beasts that plague us. Not exactly. It's this troublesome Queen La. She seems to have formed something of a... partnership with Sabor. A pact, if you will."

(cont.)

Should players get more Ideals as they increase in tier? I see Ideals are key to getting Lessons (our form of XP?)

>>36134897
Huntsmen's Club lore, excellent. It's been largely untouched on so far.

>>36134650
>>36134580
He's morally ambiguous. He would help people/heroes because he doesn't want Cheerybog to eat everything anymore than anyone else does, but wouldn't do anything overt enough to draw the ire of any other powers. He probably controls or at least keeps tabs on quite a few "hero teams" around the world., supplying, directing or... "replacing" them as needed.


>>36134671
>>36134781
Ok, find and replace Radcliffe with Roarke in my post >>36133888

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>>36134237

By the by, I just realized I'm missing a small bit of text that was sandwiched inbetween the last two posts, but it's in the pastebin and doesn't really affect the story that much.

The pastebin to the second part:
http://pastebin.com/0enrFJxh

>>36135014
He sounds tremendously boring and is a wish-fulfillment character in this setting.

>>36135048
Hang on a second, is that drawing by who I think it is?

>>36134897

Gaston rolls his eyes. How could a dumb animal do anything of the sort? In a rare bout of wisdom, however, he keeps his mouth shut.

"What I mean is, Queen La and her leopard men have been foiling so many of our hunting parties that it's nearly impossible to even track Sabor, and from covert reports it appears that she even allows her to prey on her own men when game is scarce. Traps are torn to pieces in mere hours, you see. All of our conventional techniques aren't working."

Cruella's eye twitches involuntarily. turning away from them to the large map of the Land of the Leopard. She yanks on the pullstring at the base to make it noisily roll back up, revealing a blackboard behind. Drawn upon the board with meticulous care using chalk is the face of Queen La. "Don't take me for a fool. I know precisely who you're dealing with. Queen and High Priestess of Opar. Banished from the Waziri tribe for an attempt at immortality. She has been a thorn in the side of this organization for as long as it has been in existence." she relates, blowing a plume of smoke at the image. She turns her head to face the two men. "When it comes to hunting animals, you are the best, yet you trip over your own fat feet when people come into play. Pathetic."

The two men try to keep an air of patience, though Gaston's brow is furrowing.

"Perhaps your focus should be set towards a different goal for now." The woman turns back to the blackboard, and after a few moments, taps her long, sharp fingernails on its surface just above the image. Without warning, she drags her nails down it, producing a noise so utterly detestable that both men needed to cover their ears. After too long of that, the fur-clad woman steps aside, revealing five horrid scratch marks through the chalk face of Queen La. "Eliminate this woman, and I'll triple your budget next quarter."

"T-Triple?" Gaston sputters in disbelief. Clayton just smiles even though his eardrums are still ringing.

>>36135052
i personally think it fits well enough given that hes basically evil Tony Stark, Plus he keeps the setting Nobledark, by heroes having unknown assistance.
hes definately not boring watching the series, but hes normal compared to other disney villans

>>36135102

"Poison her. Drown her. Bash her on the head, I DON'T CARE HOW YOU KILL THE LITTLE BITCH, JUST DO IT, AND DO IT NOW! But after you do..."

"Get."

"Me."

"That."

"PELT!!!"

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>>36135093

It is absolutely who you think it is. Maybe.

>>36135121
>hes definately not boring watching the series, but hes normal compared to other disney villans

"OH HE'S SO SMART AND HANDSOME AND EVERY VILLAIN STEERS CLEAR OF HIM AND FACILIER, MASTER OF DEALS OWES HIM A FAVOR AND ROARKE CONSULTS HIM VIA HIS PHONE BEFORE HANGING UP TO TALK ABOUT HOW DREAMY HE IS"
He's not an Ultimate Evil like Chernabog is and he's not a literal god like Hades is, so why should we care? He's a good planner, sure, but the people around him are devastatingly powerful. You've got Facilier and Roarke right next to him, two different kinds of impossible magic, and you've got the magical pirates as well. Why hasn't Hades or Chernabog or the Friends just splatted him out of existence yet?

>>36135131
Cruella, ever the patient angel.

>>36135102
Queen La wants the perfect mate, right?

Presumably she's won and has Tarzan as her consort, but what happens when she decides someone else is a more perfect male?

I assume everyone sees what I'm getting at.

No-one fucks like Gaston.

>>36135052
>>36135121
hes more of a background "lore" character on this world
plus its a homebrew, if you wernt expecting wish fulfillment then you clearly havent seen catastrophe

>>36135174
Just because the catgirls sank to that level does not mean that we have to live down to their example.

>>36135170
Sabor already killed Tarzan in their fight. Otherwise both she and Clayton would not be alive now.

>>36135174
I dunno, the threads have done a pretty good job of keeping on-topic and balanced, and there's nothing particularly cringeworthy yet, but my god that King/land/rule comes damn close.

>>36135225
and on that note we are at bump limit

>>36135225
Yeah. Xanatos was only really impressive in the show because he had no competition. In this setting he'd be outclassed in manipulation by a fuckton of people.

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>>36135145
>getting this salty

I could ask the same being about all the other villains
if it did went into full scale war, the only survivors would be hades and chernobog.
i could ask the same for falicer who literally only has his demons supporting him and even then he couldent do much with them.
look iyoure getting mad over some wish character, in a homebrew that is effectively a non-canon wish setting. i dont even care about xanatos that much, its just theres no generic suave modern businessman villain other then him, and hes got good lore potential.
calm down.

>>36135295
It's not the character, so much as how you made him fit into the world. Xanatos isn't as good as you think he is, and if he is, you better have a solid justification for that. For example, If Faciler (a man whos entire schtick is manipulation and debt) owes him, you need to fucking explain how and why in a way that is in character for them both.

>>36135295
Facilier is a VILLAIN WITH DEMONIC POWERS.
Xanatos, as you're suggesting, is a SUPER SECRETLY A GOOD GUY THAT EVERY VILLAIN KEEPS A WIDE BERTH BY FOR SOME STRANGE REASON
If he exists, why the fuck are the heroes needed? Why can't he with his super powerful gargoyles and powers of planning free the world from evil power? If it's due to Carnie Blog or one of the other villains, why haven't they just come down to New York and stomped over this insufferable prick who's fucking with their inferiors?

Roarke has the disadvantage of being just a man (admittedly with very high technology) and a tiny population who's scared and not really desirous of getting into a fight and have limited fighting experience outside of a small core group of mercenaries, and they lack supernatural forces or near-supernatural planning.
The Huntsman Club is just people living in the ass-end of nowhere with a bunch of dangerous animals that nobody else would fuck with.
Jack Sparrow is either in Davy Jones Locker or is basically all on his own, with one non-magical pirate ship.

Guy who wrote the Jafar story here http://pastebin.com/BRtSpNQm.

If I were to write something else, what would you fine folks like to see?

I was thinking of something with Yzma, Kronk, and Tzekal-Kan, but I'm definitely open to suggestions.

>>36130920
And for over simplification. If it requires maths that can't be done by a 6-year-old, NOPE.