>>36305126
>>36305132
That sounds good.

Rather than factories, just a warehouse where we stock the materials and then turn them into the finished product.

I imagine some loss of mass happens in the process, of course?

Anyway, starting

>>36305158
A side effect of doing it this way would be that production does not scale per worker - it is entirely supply limited. So you would have a situation where a handful of people in the orphanage know how to craft the chemical, then at the end of every day after supplies are delivered go to the warehouse, cast Earth and Water once, and go about their business. 3 second workdays.

>>36305192
that's a hell of a lot better than strangling chickens all day every day. and much better than any job I can get

what do they do for the rest of the day? we gotta have classes for them to attend so they don't get into trouble

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>>36305224
Okaba signed them up into the university remember?
Also, come think about it, they should have a lab in the orphanage so they can demonstrate how to make it manually first. Remember it doesnt work if you cant make it by yourself first, so you still need a level of skill

>>36305192
I dont have a problem with that, but I wonder if we should first supply materials for containers.
***
The Scarlet Ember begins moving away from the docks, the rockit on it gently pushing it away and out into the open sea before it begins elevating into the skies.

"I'm already missing grandfather" ~says Stella. She had taken a liking to the old man, perhaps because he always scritched her behind the ears when she met him at the door in the evenings.

Maybe she could feel the old man was trustworthy. Who knows?

Mako quietly watches as the city building's grow smaller and more distant. She's taken off from docks before, but this is the first time she has so many friends on the docks and on the ship. She holds Eldric's hand softly, staying quiet.

The ship starts turning south and east as it rises, heading towards the Opal mountains. It will be a 2 days trip until reaching the city.

The crew busies itself checking and double checking, making sure everything is properly secured in place. It is their maiden voyage, after all.

"Uhmm..." ~Okaba looks at the working
"What is it, master?" ~Aura is nibbling on a kebab she bought on the docks before departing.

We'd ask "where does all the food goes to", but honestly, it's rather obvious

1/?

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I mean, aren't her horns larger now? how many calories does it takes to grow them? are they bone? probably no, right?

"I was thinking which kind of spirit would be good to bind to the ship, and what it would take. A demon or an angel... both would be more fitting on a warship, right?"
"Yes?" ~Aura doesn't really gets it, but she nods
"Which sort of spirit do you get for a merchant ship? if they are just a mess or a group of instructions, can we make our own?"
"So... you finally want to make a little demon?" ~says Aura with a smile
"No, no, not a demon. The Lady said those are corrupted instructions, right? like a enchantment that didin't work"
"Aww"

Uhmm... should we tell Okaba that they were talking about different things? ...maybe not

Well, let's leave these two to their romantic comedy sketch, and go see our rooms.

Mako is still holding our hand as we walk around.

Obviously, its a much nicer ship than the one we used to get here. To begin with, this one is fully intended for civilian use, so it has wider hallways and the rooms are smaller, being actual rooms and not repurposed barracks and warehouses.

Of course it has warehouses, three of them, in fact.

Incidentally, we were all (except Okaba and Aura, because wings) given feather fall rings, just in case.

Well, they're called Rockit Rings, but, you know... WE are calling them featherfall rings, and hopefully it will catch on.

Still... how DO these work? the rockit imbedded in the rings is pretty tiny, so how does the mass ratio works on it?

2/?

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>>36305476
Come think of it... maybe this much rockit is enough if you just want to slow down somebody's fall, right? it's not like you need lift and thrust, but... hanging by a single finger would hurt, right?

And that is assuming it doesn't gets ripped off, which would just be horrible.

"Eldric, what are you thinking about?" ~asks Mako

Right, we stopped walking at the entrance of the room to look at the ring on our left hand.

"Ah, I wanted to try jumping off the bed and see if the ring would work"
"T-that sounds fun!" ~heh, she looks so cute when she smiles like that

You probably want to know, so I'll tell you right now... it didin't work. The bed is not high enough, it seems, but jumping off the desk did trigger the ring for a second. And it didin't feel like we were being held by our finger. It's more like our whole body slowed down at the same time.

Maybe a field?

Ugh, we should have asked to be shown a tour of the shipyards while we were in Eopolis. Does the rockit creates a field around the whole ship? then it's less of a Zepeling and more of an UFO?

Well, it's apparently cheaper to make these rings, than to make lifeboats, but we should make sure all passengers give theirs back at the end of a trip. Otherwise, it could happen to become something like a guest stealing the hotel's towel as a souvenir, or a mug, right?

Anyway, the trip back was perfectly peaceful. We arrived on Opal city as planned, and loaded as much beer as we could in one of the ship warehouses, after turning it into a freezer.

This is our ship, and we want to use it to distribute beer around the continent, so doing this much should be fine, right?

3/?

>>36305646
I actually thought we'd use the crew's item boxes for transporting beer. As long as it was chilled beforehand, it wouldn't change temperature, and I thought the beer would stack, meaning it wouldn't require much in the way of item box slots to transport.

>>36305737
But maybe the crew keeps all their personal belongings and work tools in their item boxes, not leaving much space?
These are regular workers, and are unlikely to have power leveled to get the massive item boxes that Lyann, Zoe, and Stella have.

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Of course, the destination ports will need their own freezing boxes to keep the beer cold, unless we make chilling cans... but that would probably be too expensiv-- wait... we don't need to think of them as disposable.

We could make chilling mugs, right? and heater mugs too, for hot cocoa and such. Well, they would be a bit expensive so most people wouldnt be able to acquire them, anyway.

For now, we make some smaller freezer boxes to act as fridges once we unload them. In the future, they can move the cold beer from the ship warehouse to these fridges and keep them chill that way.

After saying goodbye to Honoria (she is staying for a week in the city before going to Albion), we climb back onboard the centipede carriage, and head home.

"These don't have a driver, right?" ~asks Stella
"Right" ~Okaba is sitting crosslegged as he reads a tome
"How does it know where to go?"
"Oh, we are unconsciously steering it. It actually works better the less you think about it."

So... if we worried about falling off a cliff, would it head over to a cliff? agh! now we got to try and NOT think about cliffs. Dammit actively trying not to think about something it's hard!

"Can't you do the same for the rockit ships?" ~asks Eldric
"Too many people on board, either for the passenger or the military versions, too many minds." ~says Okaba
"Can't you restrict it to the crew on the cockpit?"
"Probably, but then we'd still need a crew and that sort of defeats the purpose of giving the machine a spirit in the first place"
"Oh, right"

4/?

>>36305646
>Well, it's apparently cheaper to make these rings, than to make lifeboats, but we should make sure all passengers give theirs back at the end of a trip. Otherwise, it could happen to become something like a guest stealing the hotel's towel as a souvenir, or a mug, right?
could make a deposit for the rings, when you turn the ring back in you get your deposit back.
with the option of keeping it if you wanted to (might as well sell people featherfall rings)
unless we are worried someone could reverse engineer the rockit? is that possible?

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>>36305948
Binder is a "neutral" job. It can bind/create either

>>36305813
So, the centipede carriage is actually steered by our subconscious.

How does the chair work? is it guided in the same way?

Well... alright, that could work. Someone simply thinks "I want something to sit on" and the chair responds. And we tell the carriage "We want to go to X" and it goes there. A passenger ship would have too many people, right? and so would a military ship, but...

Are we basically going to end with truck drivers depending on their GPS and such in this world, too?

I mean, that could work, right? and the more used they get to it, it would work better. Right?

"Well, what about a cargo ship? with just a few crewmembers?"
"That... would probably work, but it wouldn't really be a spirit. It would just be a larger version of the carriage"
"Honestly, I think that's fine"

It's fine, isin't it?

Should we
*Ask Okaba to design a ship that will follow the subconscious of just 1 crewmember?
* Let him keep researching into making a truly self-aware ship that really knows what its job is?
* Other

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>>36305995
>unless we are worried someone could reverse engineer the rockit? is that possible?
Well, is what the Alquins are trying to do with the remains of the rockit ship they shot down during the war

brb

>>36306017
Both sounds fun for different reasons and different purposes.

He said you could limit the control mechanism to just one room. so why not limit it to one fancy chair? Have a star trek style bridge with the person sitting on the captain chair being the only one who controls where the ship is going.

I still want a completely self aware "AI" for a ship though because that would be awesome. although that might basically be an advanced golem.

>>36306033
They shot down a rockit ship? and we let them keep the remains instead of mounting an assault to capture it back?
well that is not good.

>>36306017
>* Let him keep researching into making a truly self-aware ship that really knows what its job is?

>>36306017
>* Other
Ask to help in the research for a truly self-aware ship.

We're just coasting by in our classes, and we should really try to apply ourselves more in actual research.

>>36306091
we are already performing actual research with him on enchanting in general. ever since we showed him the ring.
so... would we have done it anyways?

>>36306121
>we are already performing actual research with him on enchanting in general
It seems more like we're just some junior assistant, since it's Okaba that does all of the heavy lifting in regards to research, while we just help out a little when it comes to fabrication.

The Ring and Spectacles, for example, was us just showing him the Ring, and then him doing almost all of the research to actually reverse-engineer the enchantment and then to enchant a set of glasses with it.

>>36306017
>Let him keep researching into making a truly self-aware ship that really knows what its job is?

If you do that, you want to allow it to have a golem of some sort it could shift its mind into in emergencies, like a crash.

Like the blue steel mental modes.

>>36306142
>The Ring and Spectacles, for example, was us just showing him the Ring, and then him doing almost all of the research to actually reverse-engineer the enchantment and then to enchant a set of glasses with it.
That happened before we decided to work together

>>36306153
speaking of golems, a golem can swap out its energy crystal for an upgrade.
but what happens to the old crystal when that happens? if the old crystal can now be used again to store magic, than that means you can alternate 2 crystals for a golem, constantly making it stronger (of course, the cost of that is that you don't have 2 golems and one crystal is basically going to waste)

also, with their mp harvesting tech, shouldn't the vamps (forgot name) have a bunch of 1 million MP golems

>>36306159
If we're going by what came after that, then there's really only the Sbastian spider and the icebox.

The icebox, we came up with the idea in general, but in terms of the enchantment, that was almost all Okaba.

As for the spider, we just gave it to him and asked him to take a look at it. We didn't do any research to assist him on that.

Were there any other projects we collaborated on?

The idea of mixing Northern Cards and Southern Enchanting keeps coming up but it always gets ignored, and hasn't actually come up in conversation with Okaba.

>>36306200
Supposedly we specifically said we would work on researching cards with him.
any actual such research done was off screen

>>36306241
>Supposedly we specifically said we would work on researching cards with him.
I must have missed that, then.

It would be nice to get an idea of whether we're making any progress, or some indication that the research is being done. Right now it seems like nothing is being done on that project, since we have no feedback on it.

>>36306278
I agree that some feedback would be nice

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>>36306061
You want to actually have the captain work!? B-but what about the bridge bunnies!

Also, it sounds dangerous, having only the captain directing the ship. What happens when he gets up for whatever reason? does the ship fall like a rock? hover in place?

and a golem... right, but honestly i wouldnt trust a golem to do a long trip on its own
>>36306153
>>36306090
>self-aware ship

>>36306091
arent we already doing that?

>>36306142
>some junior assistant
well... he respects us, but we are pretty busy dungeoneering, remember? we are more adventurer, less researcher

>>36306153
>Like the blue steel mental modes.
so... they would be girls with awesome legs, which for some reason werent as central to the anime as they were to the manga? (imho, the manga is WAY WAY better. Anime a shit)

Dem legs, man, seriously

>>36306196
when you remove the crystal off a golem, you effectively "kill it" unless its a personality matrix type of crystal, in which case its personality and experiences are kept in the crystal

And Asmund's family has a LOT of golems and undead that basically are all plugged to the mana network so they cant just pour it all into a single golem without shuting down their city

>>36306200
alright ill bing it up now

<- I like this pic a lot

>>36306310
>he respects us, but we are pretty busy dungeoneering
So, we're a part-time junior lab assistant.

>>36306033
What? You mean they didn't rig the thing to self-destruct in that event? Someone wasn't being very competent, I hope it takes them a good long while to figure it out. Last thing we need is kidnappers with airships waiting right outside the window.

>>36306310
>so... they would be girls with awesome legs, which for some reason werent as central to the anime as they were to the manga? (imho, the manga is WAY WAY better. Anime a shit)
>Dem legs, man, seriously

If that is what helps you remember the series, sure.

My point is if you give them sentience, instead of being a complex program you need to give them ways to express independence. Don't want it to be slavery that inly ends with the death of the ship.

Besides have a Golem Mode will let them easier interface with the crew and passangers and take actions to preserve themselves better in cases of accidents. Also will likely aid in personality developement.

Do golems dream of automaton sheep?

We should hit Okaba with a clue stick at some point. I wonder if this setting has actual clue sticks, or banhammers

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"Well, why not a mix? a smart ship subtly assisting its crew, and a crew to fix and handle anything unexpected"
"Uhmm... well, I guess it could be a branch off from our current research. Didn't you want us to look into enchanting cards?"
"Yes, but..." ~Eldric looks down
"Let's not tackle too many projects at once. lets see what we can learn about the cards first, and switch to the assisted ship on the second semester?"
"Alright"

*sigh* At least he didn't mess our hair, because then he would be fully treating us like a kid.

Anyway...

As we stop at home, Zoe runs in and Stella bows to Okaba as the carriage takes off.

Dad isin't home right now. he's joined uncla Danren's adventuring party to help with the house's income.

Elli welcomes everyone with a hug.

"Aaah... the young master is back " ~she cooes happily as she hugs Eldric and Lyann
"Elli, you don't have to call me young master anymore..."
"The young master's the young master" ~she says without letting go

She's wearing a frilly maid dress and apron, and her hair is collected into a soft looking bun behind her head.

She looks cute with her hair pulled up.

Well, Athena comes out with Zoe, and joins the hug.

"Ildric, welcom! Ildric!" ~she says happily
"I'm back"

Holding our hand, Athena walks back into the house.

A week later...

"...uhmm... these are the cheapest card sets you could find?" ~asks Okaba as we come back with a [Plus] and [Minus] card set, having 5 of each. The plus and minus monsters are low level constructs, and their cards grant a rather minor bonus

[Head slot only][Plus]
+5 damage on ranged attacks

[Arm slot only][Minus]
-5 damage from ranged attacks

If you have [Plus] and [Minus] equipped at the same time, you also receive +5 to ranged attack rolls, and +5 to PDV vs ranged attacks.

>>36306574
We did tell Dad how to level effectively, right? One of my to-do list is to get mom and dad agelessness amulets, upgrading them to true agelessness once the both pass like 50k hp. Having two members of a 3 way relationship live 1/10 as long as the third member is just asking for tragedy.

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>>36306554
>If that is what helps you remember the series, sure.
I saw the series, but I had been reading the manga for months before then
I fucking hated the series

***
"Alright, let's see... the ritual circle would normally enchant a circle with a minor (+10) bonus to intelligence"

We place the [Plus] card on it, and pour some mana into the circle. It slowly dissapears as the magical circuits are imprinted unto the card...

And the result is... a [Minor Intelligence Bonus][Head Only] Card

So... we overwrote the card, for 200MP and 6g on enchanting materials

Is this a failure, or a disguised success?

"Let's see what happens when we enchant the Minus"

And the result is that the Minus is now a [Minor Dexterity Bonus][Arms Only] card which grants +10 to dexterity.

Placing them on a cheap helmet and gloves thanks to a fellow (dwarf) researcher... they don't give any extra bonus for wearing them at the same time.

"So, we overwrote them completely" ~says Eldric with a sigh
"I wonder if it would work better with better cards?"
"What do you mean?"
"Well, these cards only had one enhancement each, right? what id we tried with cards having 2 or more? would all of them be replaced? only one? only the first, only the last?"
"Maybe we should question what are cards themselves?"
"Maybe... they come from living creatures, after all. Even dungeon monsters drop cards sometimes"
"That sounds like it will take a while"
"Indeed"

At this point, a familiar knock on the laboratory door.

"Master, lunch!" ~says Aura as she brings over Okaba's lunch. Lyann is with her, bringing over our own lunch

1/?

>>36306796
Try to put a seriously powerful enchantment on the cards. Like regeneration or something that would otherwise only be powered by curses. If it overrights the cards, and still only uses one slot, that's a massive, *massive* improvement.

>>36306826
*overwrites
dunno how that happened.

>>36306796
By the logic of this world, it's possible that kobold cards are the most powerful. They seem to have unlimited capability.

>>36306826
My understanding is that it works something like that
>Enchant item with regeneration
>Cost to enchant is X days and Y mana Z skill
vs
>Enchant item with regeneration using a curse
>Item must have curse beforehand
>Curse is specifically used to feed the enchantment when performing it
>Cost to enchant is X/10 days and Y/10 mana Z/10 skill
where 10 is the multiplier from the curse in question and variest

Now, if you are suggesting a card might be cheaper to enchant... well, we just need to perform the +10 dex enchantment on an item directly and see if took up the same amount of mana and time and effort as enchanting the card with that enchantment.

Also, something to test is. enchant an item with +10 dex, then insert into it a +10 dex card.

>>36306991
No, I think enchantments work by each item having a capacity determined by its rarity, with curses functioning like added capacity, allowing you to put more and more powerful enchantments on a single item.

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"M-mast-" ~Eldric chops Lyann on the head gently
"Don't you start, too"

Well, while eating, we talk about it with Okaba.

"What powers the cards? some sort of pre-programmed sequence creates cards at random when a creature dies, but only when a monster dies, right?"
"Right" ~answers Eldric while chewing on his pork chops.

Lyann is sitting next to him, having her own lunch, incidentally

"So, does whatever powered the monster, its mana, now powers the cards?" ~asks Lyann after sipping some juice
"That sounds feasible, but not every monster has mana, yet they all can drop cards" ~says Okaba
"What about golems? they use MP as HP, right? and some jobs use HP and MP, so they are interchangeable, up to a point" ~she says
"Uhmm... now I want to try channeling HP into a enchantment" ~says Okaba

Lyann's intellect has been waking up this semester. Stat-wise, she was already a genius, but she was too meek and mousy to speak up her mind.

She's blooming, isin't she? in lots of ways

"But, that still doesn't tells us what the cards actually are. And I'm not going to buy something like "they're the monster soul" because we did once get 14 [maneater] cards thanks to the herbalist skill, so... I doubt that plant had 14 souls" ~says Eldric
"Well, let's start by conforming what we know" ~says Okaba as he finishes his lunch and walks over to the blackboard

2/?

>>36307034
>with curses functioning like added capacity, allowing you to put more and more powerful enchantments on a single item.
this is most definitely false. curses as fuel massively reduce the cost in mana and time to enchant an item.

>I think enchantments work by each item having a capacity determined by its rarity
Maybe, I don't think so

we should ask okaba about both before we do the experiment

>>36307102
>this is most definitely false
[citation needed]

>>36307089
>"What powers the cards? some sort of pre-programmed sequence creates cards at random when a creature dies, but only when a monster dies, right?"
that same sequence also creates items with a southern enchantment already on them out of thin air.

>>36307115
>[citation needed]
look up where we had okaba make the cursed bracelets for lyann

>>36307148
that doesn't support your case. at all.

>>36307089
King, can you please clarify about okaba style enchantments

for curses, is it:
>A curse is placed on the item, this reduces the skill, time, and mana it costs to enchant it with something like regeneration
or
>Regeneration has a fixed cost. It just either doesn't work at all or works at a reduced capacity. later a curse is added to the item which provides it the power it needs to run / run at full capacity

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"This is what we know" ~he starts writting bullet points on the blackboard. The prince has a pretty awful blackboard handwriting, but its still readable

*The number of enchantments on items depends on their rarity, with rarer and better items being able to bear better and more enchantments

*A "good item" could handle 2 lesser enchantments or one medium enchantment. We could say that 2L = 1M

*Better items can handle one more medium enchantment by quality, so a Legendary item has room for 6 Medium enchantments.

*Greater enchantments each use as much room as 3 Medium enchantments, however

*Basically 1G = 3M and 1M = 2L

*Curses basically add extra "enchantment slots" to an item, and work in pretty much the same manner.

*So a legendary item could, in theory, have 2 greater enchantments as long as it also had 2 greater curses. Also, curses decrease the cost of the enchantments they power, by three quarters.

"So far so good?" ~he asks us
"Right" ~answers Eldric
"My ankle cuffs have regeneration and double movement speed. Since they also have two greater curses, does that mean those enchantments are not using any slots, then?" ~asks Lyann
"Right"
"So I still have room for 2 greater enchantments, 6 medium ones, or 12 lesser ones."
"Right again"

Lyann nods, and chews on her lunch some

"Wait, did we really need to curse her ankle cuffs, then?" ~asks Eldric
"It made the enchanting process cost 1/4 as much as it would have otherwise. Neither of us had the money to afford their full cost at the time, Eldric"
"Alright"

3/?

>>36307260
>>A curse is placed on the item, this reduces the skill, time, and mana it costs to enchant it with something like regeneration
>or
>>Regeneration has a fixed cost. It just either doesn't work at all or works at a reduced capacity. later a curse is added to the item which provides it the power it needs to run / run at full capacity

These are both correct, really

Regen, the way we applied it on Lyann's anklets, would have been massively expensive

Or, it would have been a much lesser bonus, like "per hour" instead of "per step"

>>36307316
>*So a legendary item could, in theory, have 2 greater enchantments as long as it also had 2 greater curses. Also, curses decrease the cost of the enchantments they power, by three quarters.

this should say 4 greater enchantments

>>36307357
>Both
oh. heh.

>>36307376
Thanks, I was rereading that section wondering if I was crazy or stupid.

>>36307316
Question. what effect does adding enchantments directly have on the number of open slots on a card.

>>36307402
You mean on the plus and minus cards that got overwritten? I was wondering that as well. It could be that bigger enchantments make cards cost more slots.

>>36306574
Oh, forgot to ask - would enough time have passed so that we, okaba and mako have finished learning thief? If so can we start learning warrior?

>>36307316
Dose a kobold card still affect the overwritten cards as normal?

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>>36307402
"we dont know" because we are just trying it out

***
Okaba turns the blackboard around to keep writing on the other side

* Greater enchantments can power an item up to by +200 to a single attribute, but it costs 10000MP to do so, which normally means sacrificing a crystal, as hardnly anyone has ever had 10k MP
* Medium enchantments can power an item up by +100 to a single attribute, but it costs 1000MP to do so, and multiple copies of the same enchantment do not stack so we cant have an item with three copies of +100 Dexterity, for example
* Lesser enchantments can give up to +20 at a cost of 100MP

"And this is why using a curse its so important, because it makes it so it costs 2500MP instead of 10000." ~he explains
"Wait, you used 5000MP enchanting my anklets?!"
"Yes"
"That must have used two rather expensive crystals, no?"
"Yes, but young Eldric was really excited about making this gift for you, so I couldnt really say not to his face"
"...thankyou"

Okaba cleans both sides of the blackboard

"Alright, so now let's see about cards. So far..."

*Plus and Minus are common, as far as cards are concerned
* A lesser enchantment wiped them and overwrote them

"And that's all we know, sadly. We could try cataloguing cards by rarity, but determining card rarity would imply either making a better version of young eldric's rings and my googles to see the slots a enchantment uses on an item, or the number of slots a enhancement uses on a card"
"We COULD also just try with several different cards and learn how many enhantment slots every card has, the hard way" ~says Lyann

>>36307608
This is assuming that cards have limited enchantment slots. Let's try putting a medium enchantment on a plus or minus card and seeing what happens.

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>>36307478
sure

>>36307508
lets check, would make applying greater enchantments much much cheaper, technically, or maybe double a greater one for a effect larger than anything we've seen before

Greater enchantment goes up to +200
if a Kobold doubles that, we have something greater than it has ever been seen before

>>36307608
>"we dont know" because we are just trying it out
time to experiment.

>>36307608
>* Medium enchantments can power an item up by +100 to a single attribute, but it costs 1000MP to do so, and multiple copies of the same enchantment do not stack so we cant have an item with three copies of +100 Dexterity, for example
try and stack a direct enchantment of +dex and card enchantment of +dex
... actually, try it with a card's native ability before rewriting it.

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>>36307649
>if a Kobold doubles that, we have something greater than it has ever been seen before

>>36307608
I feel that I should point out that Aura has 175 int, so she's probably a genius as well.

>>36307649
>Greater enchantment goes up to +200
>if a Kobold doubles that, we have something greater than it has ever been seen before
SCIENCE!
i guess we need to acquire a 10,000 mana crystal for this experiment then.

... actually no. for the experiment we only need +101 to be doubled to +202 thus creating something greater than before.

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>>36307728
I suspect so does Macha, yet neither one can get laid
Seriously tho, just because you are smart, it doesnt means you are interested in science. Maybe she's just awesome at writing lewd stories?
>>36307637

"This is assuming that cards have limited enchantment slots. Let's try putting a medium enchantment on a plus or minus card and seeing what happens." ~says Eldric
"Alright" ~says Okaba

Paying 100MP, you apply a +20 Dex to a Minus card

Then, by paying 1000MP out of a crystal, you apply a +100 Dex into the same Minus card.

It replaces the previous enchantment.

"Well, that would have happened on a regular item, as well" ~says Okaba~ "Lets try applying several different lesser enchantments into a card"

The result... each enchantment replaces the previous one

"Alright... so a card can have only 1 enchentment, regardless of its type?" ~asks Eldric
"It would seem so"
"Let's see what happens when we attach a kobold to it

The result...

Yup.

It doubles the +100 Dex into +200

"We should try with a greater enchantment one" ~says Eldric, Lyann and Okaba at the same time
"We could use my mana crystal to fuel it up. It has around 19k mana by now"

*Use Lyann's crystal y/n
if yes, which attribute do you want to have the card enhance?
*Start grooming another crystal for it instead. Start grinding on the low level floors just for mana for a month or so
*Other

>>36307928
>*Start grooming another crystal for it instead. Start grinding on the low level floors just for mana for a month or so
Better that we don't waste one that's got so much MP stored already, that would be better used for a golem.

>>36307928
>*Use Lyann's crystal y/n
Yes, with the assumption that we're going to be getting a writeup for the spellchanter very soon, since it seems that class and the healer/wizard/warrior hybrid you introduced earlier are going to be very very important to our research.

As an aside, I think spellchanter is the wrong name for that job. It has very little to do with chanting spells and everything to do with crystals. Maybe Crystal Mage, instead? Crystallomancer? Truly, Truly, Outrageous?

>>36307996
Oh and let it enhance Int.

>>36307928
>*Use Lyann's crystal y/n
>if yes, which attribute do you want to have the card enhance?
Yes, Int.
Son of Akasha means that a 20k crystal takes about 6 days of effort to make. So it's not that huge a loss.

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>>36307728
actually, on second thought, its funnier if she's actually thinking of theoretical math with an indle expression, and everyone just assumes she's thinking about food

Something like

. o O ( 1 = 0.999999999….)
"Aura?" ~asks Okaba
. o O ( ...if you cut the surface of a sphere up into faces, edges and vertices, and let F be the number of faces, E the number of edges and V the number of vertices, you will always get V – E + F = 2...)
"Aura!"
"Yes Master?"
"I just asked if you wanted a cupcake"
"Yes please" ~starts om nom noming on it

>>36308145
Truly the most misunderstood of anyone in the cast.

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>>36307979
>Start grooming another crystal

>>36308126
>>36307996
>Use Lyann's crystal y/n
>Yes, Int
>>36307996
damn you i wanted to do the truly outrageous joke
I remember taric being described as a earth mage, or was it a gemwizard?

.o O (If I blew really hard into a tetrahedron with flexible faces, I could round it off into a sphere, so in that sense, a sphere can be cut into four faces, six edges and four vertices. And we see that V – E + F = 2. Same holds for a pyramid with five faces — four triangular, and one square — eight edges and five vertices," and any other combination of faces, edges and vertices...)
"Aura, what are you doing?" ~asks Eldric
"Thinking about blowin-" ~she starts
"Forget I asked"

>>36308332
>I remember taric being described as a earth mage, or was it a gemwizard?
Gem Knight.

>>36308332
>aura goes on to develop calculus, linear algebra and quantum theory. In her head
>no one ever knows

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>>36308399
>ditzy girl who's actually a super genius

Goddamnit now I got another fetish. Right when I think this board couldn't corrupt me any further...

>>36307928
Are there greater enchantments that grant MP?

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>>36308399
thats_the_joke.jpg

Until one day she just sayd "aha!" and dissapears into a cloud of pure math, ascending to a realm of theoretical numbers and experimental language. And she still can't figure out the location of the male-hood

>>36308496
that sounds pretty normal, really?

>>36308651
yes, up to +200 but its not "pour 10k MP, get +200" its "pour 10k MP, get 100+1d100"

Alright, roll 1d100+100 to see how much int bonus it will grant us. Rounded up towards the closest multi... i dont know the english word... number divisible by10

>>36308781
dice+1d100+100

Rolled 5 + 100 (1d100 + 100)

>>36308781
Multiple of 10.

Rolled 86 + 100 (1d100 + 100)

>>36308781
>>36308795
sigh.

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>>36308795
apparently that doesnt works? so just roll 1d100 and we'll add the 100 manually

We'll keep the best of 4 rolls

>>36308841
It does work, I'm just an idiot.

Rolled 60 + 100 (1d100 + 100)

>>36308841
no, it works, that anon just messed up rolling dice.

Rolled 17 + 100 (1d100 + 100)

>>36308781

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>>36308827
oh, so its actually the same in spanish and in english

>>36308830
190

>>36308827
110

>>36308857
160

>>36308879
120

+190 is pretty good

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>>36308914

"Alright... Eldric, do you have any good head gear items?"
"I have this flower crown I've been keeping..."

We insert the [Greater Intelligence] card and then a [Kobold] card into the crown...

+380 Intelligence

"Ah... that's nice" ~says Eldric
"My poor crystal" ~says Lyann with a sigh
"I'll help you farm it up again"
"Alright"

***
btw what do you want to get Mako for her 10th birthday?

>>36309199
A collector's edition Eldric Plush doll and the complete mundane collection

>>36309199
>what do you want to get Mako for her 10th birthday?
Did Okaba get a chance to reverse-engineer the Party Chat enchantment from that one helmet we got?
Maybe put that enchantment onto an amulet so she can talk with the party and Eldric wherever they are?

>>36309199
Most ideas I could come up with are practical, which I don't think a girl like Mako would like.

But...we could get Grumnir to repeatedly craft a single style of runic head, chest and arm armor until they're all legendary with 6 slots.

Maybe make a guitar? Or an instrument from her homeland (we'd have to ask ami and mai if she plays anything)?

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>>36309199
Ask her or her shadows what she'd like. Something cute and mundane would be optimal. The gift of gear is something we give her already.

>>36309282
Yeah, I could see that working.

>>36309314
Also viable.

>>36309199

***
>>btw what do you want to get Mako for her 10th birthday?

set of high quality brushes? idk but the day ends in massive fireworks
>>36309282
and a little Mako plushy holding Eldric Plush doll hand perhaps a magnet/Velcro

>>36309282
This feels too narcissistic.

>>36309444
It was never our idea to make plushies, Lyann did that on her own! Hmmm... now that I think about it, maybe Lyann's already planning on the plushie deal for her present. We need to get the gang together and hash this all out, try not to accidentially give her duplicate presents.

>>36309199
This is good, but to me the takeaway is that we can get stuff like agelessness, regen, doubled movement speed and various other effects on cards.

Pure stat bonuses are actually on the weaker end of items we can create with this.

Two additional experiments we should try are putting an enchantment on an item, then enchanting a card with the same thing and placing the card in the item to see if the effects stack. Also, enchant two cards with the same thing, put it in two different items and see if those effects stack.

Spellchanter and Son of Akasha just became super important to us.

>>36309538
Would agelessness+kobold make true agelessness?

>>36309587
Even better - would True Agelessness+kobold remove the 'cannot be resurrected' clause?

>>36309199
i like an Asian style hair pin you know the long ones they use to stab their hair buns

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>>36309307
IIRC, yes, and no.
He can invite people to chat as long as theyre in his party, but he can only invite people he can see

Also, looking for funny-name math problems for Aura to start misunderstandings with, i couldnt find any better than tha happy ending problem. Help? I mean, the couch problem can easily be misunderstood, too, but its not as inherentlyfunny named as the happy ending problem.

As for Mako's gift, I liked the idea of plushies. A plushie of everyone, with velcro on the hands so she can organize them however she wants.

>>36309538
>putting an enchantment on an item, then enchanting a card with the same thing and placing the card in the item to see if the effects stack.
it doesnt

>>36309538
>Also, enchant two cards with the same thing, put it in two different items and see if those effects stack.
also doesnt

>>36309587
dont think so, not a numerical value

>in b4 kobolds are all math geniuses, too!

brb

>>36309635
So a legendary item could theoretically have 8 greater enchantments on it with no curses, and those enchantments cannot stack at all.

So let's see, you'd need 16 slots for primary stats+kobold (including mp), which would be three items. You could then put 2 greater enchants on each item, for 6 effects like haste, regen, etc. That leaves you with 2 slots left on those items. We could do much the same with runic equipment, it would just take 4 items.

So yeah, we need to start farming up 10k crystals and getting grumnir to work fashioning accessories.

>>36309810
We also need to test what happens to a succubus/incubus card when its enchanted. Maybe there are classes of cards as well.

>>36309635
Can't help you with math problem names, sorry.

>>36309635
Would Regen+kobold give 20% health back a turn? Double movement+kobold means quadruple movement?

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>>36309635

For her 10th birthday, Mako got from...
Aura ~ A cooking set
Ami ~ A pair of legendary monk knuckles
Dad ~ Six pairs of cute white leather sandals, with adjustable straps. Non magical, but she needed extra shoes
Eldric ~ A set of plushies of everyone, with velcro in their hands
Ellie ~ A hand made cooking apron and little chef hat
Honoria ~ A legendary metal helmet, silver, and sort of pointy
Mai ~ A bath set with perfumed soaps and oils (funny enough, we make those)
Mom ~ A lot of warm clothes
Okaba ~ Cleared up a large in the orphanage for her so she didint had to live in the dormitories anymore. Also so he could surround her bedroom full of alarms and sensors.
Stella ~ Hand made Cake
Zoe ~ Ate the cake, apologized and was forgiven. Agreed that Mako could scratch her tummy all she wanted (which she normally wants to do, but Zoe doesnt allow anyone but Eldric)

>>36309810
what? hold on let me check
3M = 1G
Good = 1M
High = 2M
Exceptional= 3M or 1G
Fine = 4M, or 1M and 1G
Runic = 5M, or 2M and 1G
Legendary = 6M, or 2G

Curses can give 2 more Gslots, sot up to 4G enchantments. How did you got 8?

>>36310091
>How did you got 8?
6 card slots + 2 inherent enchantment slots

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>>36310091
>Ami ~ A pair of legendary monk knuckles
A girl after my own heart

>>36310091
What about a gift from Lyann?
Or was the plushie set from both Eldric and Lyann?

>>36310154
Speaking of which, could we just put in place a standard operating procedure where we put the hp/mp drain switch on any legendary weapon we get and allocate it to one of our party members?

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>>36310109
aaaaah, right

But when you place a card on something, the card bonus is called a enhancement, tho

>>36310091
A few more months went on like this, with every day being peaceful and fun as Athena started running around everywhere, and running into people all the time.

Mako moved to the orphanage room, with everyone's help.

We helped Lyann to farm up her MP crystal again.

We kept researching cards with Okaba.

There are lots of "nyaa~ nyaa~ and ah ah!" sounds coming out from Elli's room pretty much every night now, so we are really NOT surprised at all when we find Zoe and Stella sitting outside one night.

"What are you doing?"
"There's a kitty inside!" ~they both say excited
"No... that's... that's just Elli playing with dad"
"Really?"
"Yes, really. Just go back to bed, alright?"

Also, mom is about to give birth to our newest siblings, and uncle Danren is acting as her doctor.

"Any day now, so you should apply for a license at the university soon" ~says uncle Danren as he comes out of her room
"Alright" ~mom says from inside

"Hey champ, how are you doing these days?"
"I'm fine, uncle. Thank you for asking."
"You are about to have 2 more siblings, you know?"
"I know"
"Are you going to take care of them?"
"Of course I will!"
"That's my nephew" ~he messes our hair gently

***
Incidentally, anyone remembers the names we got for them?

>>36310250
I assume so, since Lyann is the one making the plushies.

A question: how does learning a t2 job from another nation or class work? Like, say a slave gets healer 20 and wants to learn bishop, is that as simple as going to the priest and having that their job switched to that? What if they are in an area that has bishops but they want to learn worldsoul, is it just a trip to the priest again?

>>36310379
>But when you place a card on something, the card bonus is called a enhancement, tho

Alright, but that seems kind of pointless, since the enchanted card enhancement seems to function in all ways like a normal enchantment.

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>>36310250
That one was private, maybe i'll type about it on a sidestory one day

>>36310421
It would not be available

>>36310464
is just to keep track

So... nobody remembers the babies names? should I rename them?

>>36310501
>So... nobody remembers the babies names? should I rename them?
I don't think we ever named them, and I can't seem to find any discussion about the subject in archives. So go ahead.

>>36310501
>It would not be available
But we can change their jobs to that?

>>36309635
what about enchanting a card with both a curse and a bonus?

>>36310501
>So... nobody remembers the babies names? should I rename them?
the issue is that you only mentioned them once.
repeat them in game and we will remember them

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>>36310608
yes
>>36310648
only one thing at the time. It may interest you to know the illustration on the card doesnt change, so even if you curse a card, it is impossible to tell, for normal people

Nevermind, found it

A few weeks after that, mom gave birth to Elysia and Fredrick, our newest baby sister and brother.

<Elysia Lightbringer>
<1 wizard/1 noble>

<Fredrick Lightbringer>
<1 healer/1 noble>

Well, the house sure is lively with so many children, now.

Elysia has blue eyes and golden hair, like mom, while Fredrick its more like dad and ourselves, and has light, honey-colored eyes.

Right now, all they do is sleep, of course. Mom is staying home for a while, but there's no such thing as a maternity leave in this world, so she has to go back to work at the end of the month.

Of course, thanks to healing magic, she's perfectly fine already. In fact, she was tired, but perfectly healthy right away after the birth.

Well... right now, she and Elli are taking care of the babies in turns. This include breastfeeding, cleaning them, washing them, etc.

Zoe and Stella are doing their best to help, but... honestly, they lack life experience, so mom only allows them to watch most of the time, unless its about stuff such as fetching things or the like.

On the other side, Athena is clearly jealous. She used to be the baby, and now there's two more babies. Well, it's not as if mom abandoned her, but she has to share mom and Elli with the twins, now.

"Ildric, don go there!" ~she says when we try to go into the room to check on our baby siblings~ "Ildric is mine!" ~she pouts
"Alright"

Well, it's fine, isin't it? Athena can hog us all she wants for a while.

1/?

>>36310756
>It may interest you to know the illustration on the card doesnt change, so even if you curse a card, it is impossible to tell, for normal people

So we could do some sabotage by cursing cards destined for a rival's military or nobility.

>>36310897
yea, but it sounds like we can do a lot of collateral damage this way.

>>36310897
we could also destabilize the market by introducing the notion that some cards might have different results than what their icon indicates.

>>36310943
Sort of. I can't imagine people would card weapons or armor in a dangerous situation, so what this would be doing is forcing them to go to a temple to get uncursed and then throwing away the now worthless item.

>>36310993
>>>We can harm enemy military and nobility with this
>>That causes collatoral damage
>Not if we use harmless curses
if we use harmless curses than it won't harm the enemy nobility and military

>>36311154
>removing powerful items from circulation isn't harming them

sure, bub, whatever you say.

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>>36310756

Since mom and Elli are busy with the twins, we try and organize everyone else to help around the house.

Lyann is the most helpful of our sisters, obviously.
Either she or us do the cooking
Stella and Zoe usually do things like sweeping, airing sheets, or going on errands
Athena is playing on a toy kitchen, within our sight, so she plays to help Lyann with the cooking.

In case you wanted to know, Lyann is a great cook, actually.

Well, we are still going to classes, of course, so we can only help in the evenings.

Dad looks extremely happy every day.

Well, life right now its pretty nice, isin't it?

We are talking with Honoria in the chess club, when we spot Aura and Dawn running about.

Is Dawn dragging Aura into her pranking, again? what are they up to, now?

We approach them slowly...

"But, doesn't that hurt?" ~asks Aura
"Only the first time, a little. And some don't even feel it"

Yeah... this time we're not jumping to conclusions.

"Alright, but, why does it have to be on all four?"

No... we are not going to give in to prejudice! no!

"It's the best way to do it" ~says Dawn

Alright, I give

"What are you girls up to, now?" ~says Eldric with a resigned voice

Dawn has a line with a 4-pronged hook at the end, each with a worm on it... seriously, I knew it wasnt what it sounded like, but what in god's name are you doing with that at school, now?

"Dawn is taking me fishing"
"Why is Dawn taking you fishing?"
"We wanted some peace and quiet to argue about the happy ending problem, we-"
"No... I'm sorry I asked"

1/?

>>36310756
so did we try the curse+incubus/succubus combo yet?

Can we replace Greater Enchanments with EVEN MORE curses?

>>36311187
>so did we try the curse+incubus/succubus combo yet?
can you elaborate on what specifically you want done here?

>>36311366
Put a curse on one or both of those cards, see if the reversal effect they have going affects the curse.

>>36311366
incubus/succubus combo reverses all/negative effects that they normally give alone. I don't think we've checked if it reverses other cards or enchantments/curses yet.

>>36311398
>Put a curse on one or both of those cards
A curse wipes out a card's current enchantment completely and replaces it with the curse.

also, what does >>36311187
>Can we replace Greater Enchanments with EVEN MORE curses?
mean, I don't quite get it.

>>36311410
>incubus/succubus combo reverses all/negative effects that they normally give alone. I don't think we've checked if it reverses other cards or enchantments/curses yet.
ok wait. let me see if i get it
>Step 1, put curse on helmet
>Step 2, put succubus card in helmet
>Step 3, wear it along with an incubus carded item
is this what you want?
or do you want to place the curse on the incubus/succubus card itself?

>>36311426
>A curse wipes out a card's current enchantment completely and replaces it with the curse.
No. That's an assumption you're making, and you've been completely wrong before so I'll happily ignore you.

>>36311426
Use the Greater Enchancement slots to put EVEN MORE curses.

>>36311445
we could try both and see which is actually useful?

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>>36311187
doesnt work, either of those

>>36311183

A couple of succubi arguing casually about the "happy ending"... yeah, that's not going to cause any rumours. *sighs*

"Dawn, what have you and Asmund been up to, anyway?"
"Ah, i've been selling spiders! master's been in the library"
"Isin't he your brother? why do you call him master, anyway?"
"Lyann calls you master"
"Yes, but she..."
"Aura calls Okaba that way"
"Yes, but... nevermind"

"Actually, I've tried to have her drop that, but it's no use" ~says Asmund as he walks in from the front

This guy has pretty good hearing, uh?

"Hey Eldric"
"Good morning. How have you been?"
"Hungry, which is why I was looking for Dawn"

No, we are so not falling for that

"Alright"
"..." ~he waits for it for a bit~ "you are really not going to say anything?"
"No, I'm already used to their antics already, I'm not going to fall for yours too"
"How boring" ~he gets his breakfast from Dawn's item box
"What is that, anyway?"
"A sandwich"
"...alright. So, what have you been doing?"
"Finished the mana network, working on channeling to Dawn through an amulet."
"Any luck with the regicide?"
"Haven't really worried about it. Also, Okaba has been trying to get me to read on some political and social writer's work"
"Ah... yes, I could see him doing that"
"Well, would you like to give me a hand with the mana channeling?" ~he helps Dawn to stand up from where she was kneeling with Aura

They were filling a little box with worms they were luring off the ground

2/?

>>36311452
>No. That's an assumption you're making
No, it isn't
>>36310756
>only one thing at the time. It may interest you to know the illustration on the card doesnt change, so even if you curse a card, it is impossible to tell, for normal people
only one thing at a time. curse is a thing

>>36311479
>Use the Greater Enchancement slots to put EVEN MORE curses.
Curses don't use up slots, they provide slots

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>>36311481

*Go and help Asmund with his research while Dawn and Aura fish nearby (going to a nearby glade with a pond)
*Pass
*Invite the others as well
* Other

>>36311452
>you've been completely wrong before so I'll happily ignore you.
>I know exactly who each anon is.
you do know what anonymous means?

>>36311551
>*Invite the others as well
our sisters keep all the boys away from them

>>36311481
So Dawn has been teaching Aura mundane and innocuous things yet making it sound dirty if you happen to walk in during the middle of the conversation just to fuck with us?

Well played, miss succubus, well played.

>>36311551
>*Go and help Asmund with his research while Dawn and Aura fish nearby (going to a nearby glade with a pond)
No reason not to
Selfless reason - its a worthy cause
Selfish reason - we learn more about very useful secrets

>>36311551
*Go and help Asmund with his research while Dawn and Aura fish nearby (going to a nearby glade with a pond)

>>36311551
>Go and help Asmund with his research while Dawn and Aura fish nearby (going to a nearby glade with a pond)

>>36311551
>*Pass

>>36311555
This is you:>>36307102

>>36311551
>*Go and help Asmund with his research while Dawn and Aura fish nearby (going to a nearby glade with a pond)
>*Invite the others as well


Girls might like fishing. I can see Zoe and Stella being all for it. Lyann is smart enough to pick up on stuff too, and coming unto her own.

>>36311555
People try to guess. It is possible to find a poster you're familiar with through certain hints. Filenames are the big one. Followed by a general posting style and expressing known interests.

Though of course, him stating that he knows exactly who we all are is certainly false. No way to do that unless he's a damn good hacker. In which case, he'd be stealing credit card numbers or something instead of being here.

>>36311672
so it is
are you a moderator or just really good at guessing?

>>36311755
Your dismissive tone and generally faggy posting style give it away.

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>>36311566
>Invite the others as well
>>36311614
>>36311630
>>36311586
>help Asmund with his research
>>36311637
>Pass

Around an hour later...

"So what is that meant to do?" ~we ask while Asmund assembles a crystal array
"Its a substation for my mana network, it should let us tap into it. Not the actual reserve, but at least the floating mana. Now that we've sold a lot of spiders, there's about 300 or so mana floating in the network at any given time"
"How do the spiders gather mana, anyway?"
"Well, gathering ambient mana is not that hard. You or Okaba probably figured it out already."
"Yes, but it takes a huge construct"
"Alright, hold on... there!"

The crystal array is obviously "on" now. Its main crystal is floating and spinning gently. It is also glowing, but that's pretty redudant

"As I was saying, it takes a large construct"
"Yeah, it does, doesn't it?"
"You ass. You aren't going to tell me how it works?"
"Honestly, its a very simple concept everyone seems to just skip over, and watching them whine about it it's just too funny"
"So you are not going to tell me?"
"Not for a couple of years, at least."
"Oh? but you will?"
"Sure, probably. Alright... Dawn!" ~he calls her over and has her don an amulet~ "Alright, you can go back to doing whatever you were doing, now"
"Alright" ~she goes back to fishing with Aura

1/?

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>>36311780
"So, what did you need me to help you with?"
"Throw me a spell"
"Which type?"
"Anything, just don't throw anything higher than 3rd sphere just yet"
"Alright..."

*We happily cast a hybrid metal/wood/fire spell at his face. It gets almost instantly sucked in towards Dawn, who doesn't seems the least bit botherd by it*

"What did you do?" ~says Eldric
"Well, I found Okaba's first journal on enchanting in the library, and decided to mix it with my own knowledge in mana flow."
"...ah. It's a cursed amulet, isin't it?"
"Depends on who¿s wearing it, I guess? It absorbs magic cast in an area and redirects it without failing towards the wearer."
"And she absorbs magic"
"Right, and she absorbs magic."
"Why did you need my help?"
"I cant really cast spells at myself, can I? I mean, can anyone? and casting spells at her would obviously end in the spell going at her either way"
"...alright, so what now, and why did you need the mana array?"
"Well, I... didin't really got how to make a circle to power the amulet's curse, so I powered it up the same way we power everything up back home"
"The array powers it up..." ~Asmund nods as we talk~ "...and it has a limited range"
"Right"

We look up and pop our neck for a couple of seconds

"And you needed a separate array because the one you have in town is only a receiver"
"Yes"
"Alright, what now"
"Throw me a higher sphere spell, let's say 6th?"

It too gets redirected to Dawn's amulet. She doesn't even seems to blink

2/?

>>36311982
>"I cant really cast spells at myself, can I? I mean, can anyone? and casting spells at her would obviously end in the spell going at her either way"
From the description, he should've been able to cast at anything - like a tree.

>>36311982
>"I cant really cast spells at myself, can I? I mean, can anyone?
can't you cast a healing spell on yourself?
than again, maybe he isn't a cleric

>>36311481
>doesnt work, either of those
There are a couple things going on in that experiment

Does putting a curse on a card overwrite any of the card's effects?
If yes, does it overwrite more than one effect?

>>36311982
Does she absorb spells cast with HP?

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>>36312048
I thought about it too late. Hindsight is 20/20
Lets say he just wanted to show off, tho its really me being distracted or not thinking fast enough

>>36311982
Uhmm... is this a case where the way items are powered in his homeland, and how items are powered elsewhere is too different for him to understand it?

We didint had too much trouble figuring it out. On the other hand, Okaba mentioned he couldnt figure out how the mana network works, either.

Are they just incompatible systems? are they using different coding, or something?

"Alright... look, let's do the following. Don't teach me how you get the mana, I0ll keep trying to figure it on my own, but can you explain to me how you power up stuff with that array?"
"Uh? sure, if you help me understand the southern enchanting."

*Deal
*Maybe I'll tell you in a couple of years, after you've tried to figure it out for a while
*Other

>>36311982

Wonder if he knows what happens if dawn gets over fed on mana. We don't, but there are always risks involved on something like that.

Probably needs to create aome safeguards.

>>36312138
>*Maybe I'll tell you in a couple of years, after you've tried to figure it out for a while

>>36312138
>*Maybe I'll tell you in a couple of years, after you've tried to figure it out for a while
give him a the biggest troll grin we can

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>>36312118
>Does putting a curse on a card overwrite any of the card's effects?
>If yes, does it overwrite more than one effect?
yes

>>36312135
yes. As Lyann suggested, basically, they may actually be the same

>>36312138
>Deal

>>36312138
>*Deal
The guy can dish out a joke but he can't take one.

>>36312172
So the quality of the card is meaningless when putting enchantments on it. Guess we need to buy up as many cheap cards as we can.

>>36312185
i think you picked the wrong one then

>>36312218
Asmund is the kind of person who creates annoying drama, not amusing drama, especially when someone proves him wrong.
I don't want to deal with that.

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>>36312159
>>36312168
>Maybe I'll tell you in a couple of years

>>36312185
>>36312173
>Deal

uhmm... we have a tie, let me toss a coin, i guess

>>36312255
to be fair Okaba did cast dragon force and ripped him in half soo. . . ya

>>36312282
deal

>>36312282
Take him up on his offer, deal.

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>>36312282
a pic for your mako folder

>>36312287
Only after Asmund attacked him for showing how Asmund is really a selfish brat that would have let Sbastia and its citizens suffer civil war and the collapse of civil order, and the undead military and golem constructs go rampant.

>>36312416
you would happen to follow MGQ would you

>>36312456
No idea what that even is.

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>>36312282

Well, as it turns out, his crystal array transmits energy as soun. The array crystals humm at a frequency too low to hear, which resounds with the crystal on his creations.

Pros: Things can be turned on/off and only use mana when "on". Enchantments and curses require an almost negligible amount of mana to work this way.
Cons: Unlike with southern enchanting, "on" things require a constant mana flow

Waaaaait a minute... isin't this similar to the idea Tesla had, to send energy out of that huge tower of his, and such?

Well, its a similar concept, anyway.

"So... wait. If I get this right, that huge army your country its said to have... it can't go too far from your city, can it?"
"Ah... right. Well, we are working on relay stations, tho"
"...alright, so, is that really why you guys didin't send any troops to fight the Empire? your array doesn't reach that far south?"
"...yes"
"You do know it made you look like assholes, right?"

Asmund shrugs

He explains to us how to "tune in" to the energy frequency of this particular array... it costs 1 mana per minute to power up a greater enchantment this way.

Every house provides about 3 mana per minute.

Well, it has its pros and cons.

We help him disarm the array, and go back to the school, where we talk with Okaba and try to teach Asmund to use southern enchanting.

He facepalms as he figures it out.

"Alright, so basically you create a stable mana flow within the item itself"
"That is the gist of it, indeed" ~says Okaba
"I think you are missing something. What about items that can activate extra features, like throwing fireballs or triggering spells?" ~says Asmund

1/?

>>36312469
never mind then that pic is and has been used in a different quest

>>36312497
>He explains to us how to "tune in" to the energy frequency of this particular array... it costs 1 mana per minute to power up a greater enchantment this way.
Can you adapt that to work with a person's mana reserve?

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>>36312497

According to Asmund, mana can only be truly generated by living beings, so southern enchantment MUST somehow manipulate it surrounding's mana in order to power triggered abilities. Otherwise items would, at some point, simply run out of mana

"Can you adapt that to work with a person's mana reserve?" ~asks Eldric
"Not right now. Ultimately, I would want to connect Dawn to the network, directly, to keep her fully charged or close enough"
"Wait, I can take a fairly good guess at how you are redirecting spells to her through aetheric manipulation, but adding her as... a container? an extra storage?... adding her to an artificial network would need you to..."
"Right, I would need to turn her into the mana network receptable, instead of the crystals"
"uhmm. Since you disassembled the array, is her amulet "off" right now?"
"Correct"
"Can I examine it?"
"Dawn, please come here for a moment."

Asmund takes Dawn's amulet and hands it to Okaba.

"I don't get it, I can't see any traces of the curse. How DO you redirect spells to it?"

At this point, Eldric, Okaba and Asmund start exchanging theories about the differences between Sbastian and Heven's magical circuit plotting.

roll 1d100. We'll keep the best of 4 rolls.Need a 30 or more

Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>36312740

>>36312771
>crit
yeah, i think we got it.

>>36312771
well then everybody sit down homie here has got that shit

>>36312771
Is there Nobel Prize-equivalent in Albion?
I'd like to get it and hang it on our wall.
Mom would be so proud.

Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>36312740
Best of 4 right?

>>36312850
>Mom would be so proud.
Would she? We've explained how stacking stats works, and have even gotten her to do it to an extent. She's significantly smarter than she was last year.

>>36312996
Why wouldn't she be proud to see her son win a prestigious award for magical research?

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>>36312771

Eldric has a flash of inspiration

"The spiders aren't really the receivers themselves, are they? they are more like... like a simple line in the sand through which water tends to flow"

*Asmund stares al Eldric for a moment*

"Right. All they do is create a funnel effect in the atmosphere, like a channel, and mana naturally flows through it..." ~says Asmund
"To the actual receiver. The spiders are just the visible part of a immense, intangible machine. It works on math, without any actual mobile parts. That's why people couldn't figure it out." ~Okaba suggest
"You DO need a large machine to chanel all that mana. In fact, its a ridiculously massive thing. You didin't miniaturize it at all, you just took it apart, and it kept working anyway"
"Right, the mana in the space surrounding the spiders is channeled to the array, regardless of how far the spider is from the array. Well, not quite regardless"
"Right, it basically runs on sound, so it can only work as far as the sound can go. And air isin't that good a medium for sound" ~says Eldric~

"Well, if mana can be turned to sound and viceversa, we could use southern enchantment to craft something playing the right sound. Mana CAN be created by things other than living beings" ~says Okaba
"And then we could channel it into the network, and redirect it as needed through relay stations to power items and various things for a ten thousandth of the current MP cost in southern enchanting" ~says Asmund
"If we can create enough generators, the cost wouldnt really matter, tho. An aether power station" ~says Eldric

1/?

>>36312740
>"Not right now. Ultimately, I would want to connect Dawn to the network, directly, to keep her fully charged or close enough"
couldn't he just cast spells at her daily to keep her charged up?

>>36313037
So....soldiers are basically going to get power armor that's limited to a certain distance from its mothership? We're doing nadesico now?

>>36313037
... well this is a world altering invention

>>36313128
Very powerful Enchantments on gear that can only stay powered while in range of a generator or substation.

Also war golems powered by a command carrier rock-it ship.

>>36313128
We do need to find a way to power those northern enchantments with personal mana and not sound, as a backup.

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"Wait, wait, that sounds well, but the truth is that channeling more than a given amount of mana at the same time its pretty dangerous, you know?" ~says Asmund
"Alright, so how much mana CAN you channel at once" ~asks Okaba
"With the array I have in town? about 500 per minute for an hour before it all burns down. Safely and constantly? about 200 per night"
"That's not much"
"Hey, it's free and everflowing mana. Who cares if it isin't that much, it stacks, you know?"

"What are they talking about?" ~asks Dawn
"I dont know, but they look like they are having fun" ~says Aura

"Well, if we can create a mana generator, its storage can be part of the same structure. It would, in fact, be a mana dispenser. Like something handing out a limited number of batteries, every day, forever" ~says Eldric
"What's a battery?" ~asks Asmund
"Oh, they call them Juicers in Bastion."
"I've seen those. I see"
"Alright, so, right now, we could, assuming we can build a ...generator?" ~Okaba looks at Eldric, and Eldric nods~ "power a considerable golem army off a single rockit ship"
"And if we manage to handle more than a few hundred mana per night, we could use it to quickly craft permanently powered items through southern enchanting."
"Let's go one step at the time. Generatos first" ~says Eldric
"Then we need to enhance the capacity of the substations" ~says Asmund
"And ultimately, explore safe ways to use al that mana" ~says Okaba

2/?

>>36313333
I don't get this picture. Her face looks like she's embarrassed because her thong came undone and she's about to be nude. But she's wearing dental floss. Are straight guys able to ignore how absurd this is?

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"We need to discuss the responsible use of this discovery. I mean, it could power up massive armies" ~says Okaba
"It does power up a massive army" ~says Asmund~ "The problem has always been, it cant go too far or too fast"
"Rockit ships and manage generators can change that" ~says Eldric
"But should we change that?" ~asks Okaba

1 ~ Let's worry on making it work, then worry about its applications.
2~ Success is a matter of time, let's discuss about the uses of this technology
3~ Whatever we decide, it will be up to others how THEY use this knowledge, we cannot control everyone. Let's just give the Coalition a good head start
4 ~ Other

>>36313452
>2~ Success is a matter of time, let's discuss about the uses of this technology

>>36313452
>2~ Success is a matter of time, let's discuss about the uses of this technology

>>36313452
>3~ Whatever we decide, it will be up to others how THEY use this knowledge, we cannot control everyone. Let's just give the Coalition a good head start
some time the world moves forward in ways unknown

>>36313452
I don't understand what you mean by
>Success is a matter of time

>>36313037
with them tower things we can build, we could probley use them to be the base of effective substations.

>>36313201
flying ones that shoot spells fuck yea!

>>36313333
>>36313452

3~ Whatever we decide, it will be up to others how THEY use this knowledge, we cannot control everyone. Let's just give the Coalition a good head start

there are far worse things we could create

>>36313333
>"power a considerable golem army off a single rockit ship"

I'm not seeing how that follows. The only golems we know about are the artificer ones, and they're not powered by enchantments as such.

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>>36313534
it means they have a pretty good idea on what they are looking for and just need time to find the right frequency. In short, it may take 15 seconds or several years, but they believe they will figure it out, eventually.

>>36313452
anything can be used for war. even food supply increases
ultimately, our clique has amazing control over how things end up being used
and someone else might invent it too.

also, we can research it but not reveal it to the whole world. limit who knows. for example, probably want it to be a secret until after asmund assumes his throne

>>36313640
An engineering problem rather than a theoretical problem, in other words.

>>36313452
3~ Whatever we decide, it will be up to others how THEY use this knowledge, we cannot control everyone. Let's just give the Coalition a good head start
Other nations stealing or independently developing this technology is only a matter of time.
We just need to make sure that our nations have it first.

>>36313640
oh, you are saying some hypothetical third party might invent it too on their own?

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>>36313619
The sbastian golem and undead army IS powered by the mana station in their city, tho

even the golems we know about are, basically, powered by mana

>>36313652
right

>>36313489
>>36313507

>2

>>36313666
>>36313524
>3

>>36313686
No, Im saying that the trip of Asmund, Eldric and Okaba are pretty certain they wILL succeed in crafting a generatot, in the near future

>>36313452
>2~ Success is a matter of time, let's discuss about the uses of this technology
>3~ Whatever we decide, it will be up to others how THEY use this knowledge, we cannot control everyone. Let's just give the Coalition a good head start

The reality is that Asmunds realm is already doing it. His dad may crack it, or something similar in a matter of time. They could currently with current understanding just use pipes filled with water to transmit the 'sound power' large distances to relay stations easily enough.

Once that is done, it will just take another spark of inspiration to move it onwards.

With our knowledge we know that magic is power now, beyond a doubt. It can easily be converted to mechanical, electrical, heat or hydraulic with current spells. Just with these generators we can convert it to sound and then convert it back to mana.

Someone, sometime will figure it out. If it is out there at once, it is better that a lot more know of it then a realm hording it and springing a fleet of rock-it ship powered armor super golems on the world.

>>36313790
That line of reasoning is basically identical to us going fully public with knowledge about how to stack jobs and stats.

>>36313753
>even the golems we know about are, basically, powered by mana
So if we put a generator in the house, connected it to a crystal modified for use in an artificer golem and then provided several remote golem bodies with these mana recievers built in, we could create a house AI/defense system?

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>>36313863
yes, but these golems HP is calculated different from the artificers one. It runs on the materials it is built. Ironycally, crystal golems are better since they react more strongly to sound

>>36313753
Only 4 votes? is there a event going on the US thats keeping people distracted and I dont know about it, or did we bleed 7 people in a single week for some reason? I dont remember any big clusterfuck last week

>>36313790
I feel so dumb for not thinking of water pipes. I thought about ships, and using the oceans as a natural way to transmit the sound, but didint think of pipes to send it through land

>2

***

After a while, your small group decides to continue discussing the way to apply this technology before going ahead with it.

Asmund is obviously excited at the ideas we have, but agrees to place the idea of generators on hold. Helping her sister continues to be his number 1 priority after all, so we'll help him with that while discussing about how to use this tech

Thus, we continue our daily lives in this way, working on three projects.

1 - Connecting Dawn to Asmund's mana network. Since it is health related, we give it priority
2- Figuring out better ways to enchant items. There's not much progress there. It feels as if we are already at peak efficiency at the moment
3 - Card research. What, exactly, are cards? many cards have more than 1 effect to them, yet we can only enchant them with one effect ourselves. The best and most expensive cards have as many as 6 different effects

>>36314045
Could I add a goal to enchant two amulets with agelessness for mom and dad?

>>36314045
>1 - Connecting Dawn to Asmund's mana network. Since it is health related, we give it priority

>>36314136
That was a list, not a vote.

>>36314045
Is this a vote on which project to pursue?

If so, 1.
Medical applications.

>>36314171
>Thus, we continue our daily lives in this way, working on three projects.
ITT:Reading is hard

>>36314045
1 - Connecting Dawn to Asmund's mana network. Since it is health related, we give it priority

do good and good will come of it

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>>36314090
sure. Which tier of agenelessness? the basic one or the one where they cant be ressed?

>>36314045

Well, it takes us the whole semester, but we manage to "plug" Dawn to the mana network. Rather than plugging her specifically, we make an amulet that channels mana from the network to itself, and its user.

The problem is, she "bleeds" a % of her mana daily, and cannot naturally recharge mana. If our mana capacity is a tank with 800lt capacity, hers is a huge storage about 50000lt big, with a huge hole in the bottom.

Right now, the amulet gives her 200 mana per night.

"You know, this was an emergency measure, but we should look for a way to "plug" her leak, so to speak" ~says Okaba over lunch

We (Asmund, Okaba and Eldric) are sitting in the shade of a large tree in the university's garden while the girls either eat with us, or play in the nearby grass.

"I cannot thank you enough" ~says Asmund~ "You helped me save my sister"
"Well, regardless of whatever we think of eachother, she's a completely innocent party" says Okaba~ "Now we could take a new look at enchenting. Your perspective is a fresh one, so I expect good things out of it."
"Right, your method os enchanting basically needs almost no mana to make something work, but that "almost nothing" its still stacking in the long run. We need to improve southern enchanting with it, somehow, or improve it with southern enchanting, however you want to look at it" ~says Eldric
"Well, I already have an idea" ~says Asmund

2/?

>>36314343
>sure. Which tier of agenelessness? the basic one or the one where they cant be ressed?
Start them with the normal tier. Once they pass 50k hp, give them true agelessness. It's too much of a risk without having a significant HP buffer.

>>36314381
We should also probably teach the dancer before we give them true agelessness so they can decurse themselves.

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>>36314381
Now that we have access to Asmund's mana network (yes, he is fine sharing it with us) we can access about 2100 mana per week. The network currently has 25000 mana, more or less, not counting the 5k on Dawn. Do you want to pay 20k of that mana to make items WITHOUT a curse for mom and dad, or just 2k and give each item a medium curse to power it up?

>>36314343

Asmund's idea is that since the scholars that funded Sbastia came from Albion, both styles of enchanting must share some common traits.

He has been writing a book on sbastian enchanting with a few examples of basic protocols and construct "programs", and hopefully, you and Okaba can find some threads to follow after reading it.

As for uses for our theoretical mana network, Asmund suggest that cheaps automatons taking care of lesser tasks such as sewer cleaning, street sweeping, and dangerous tasks such as acting as "moving shields" for squads of soldiers should be a must.

Well, that could stretch to things as familiar (to us, anyway) as ovens, waterheaters, juicers and other utility goods around the house.

Okaba is worried about the elephant in the room, however.

"Well... alright, those do sound like sensible uses, but... we are in Albion, remember? do we really want to give the mage council here access to cheap armies?"
"We don't HAVE to. We could just make a few units for our own use"
"Well, in the meanwhile, we could work on medical supplies. A small tool able to endlessly cast low and mid sphere healing spells would be priceless" ~says Eldric

3/?

>>36314343
Has enough time passed for us to finish training warrior?

If so, we have every starting tier 1 job now. The rest of our party is pretty bad on that front, however. Maybe we should start giving classes to everyone else?

>>36314620
If we have warrior as here >>36314626
, then let's just spend the week or so required to get a 20k mana crystal ourselves with son of akasha and pay for it that way.

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>>36314626
sure, and you mean classes or jobs?

>>36314620
"Wait, before we start crafting and connecting things to the local mana network, remember this one is pretty small, actually. Shouldn't we start work on the generators?"

* Begin work on the generatos
* Let's just craft a few prototype healing dispensers, the current network can take it
* Other

>>36314667
sounds good to me

>>36314726
>sure, and you mean classes or jobs?
Jobs, sorry.

>>36314726
>* Begin work on the generatos

>>36314726
>* Begin work on the generatos
SCIENCE

>>36314726
>Let's just craft a few prototype healing dispensers, the current network can take it
Saving lives.

>>36314726
* Let's just craft a few prototype healing dispensers, the current network can take it

>>36314726
>Let's just craft a few prototype healing dispensers, the current network can take it

Make two or three, plug one in at the school.

Plug the other into the orphanage.

The other plug into the temple of voltron.

Set them up so they can only dispense X amount of uses a day total.

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>>36314726

Meanwhile, in classes, e learn how to cast [Berserk], [Heavy] and [Shell] as stand off, single target spells that last 3 rounds, for 20 mana each.

Of course, we also continue going into the dungeons. Including the dungeon runs we did while in Eopolis and this far into the year, we have

Eopolis (this includes cousin Alard)
220x 3039
130x 8588
70x11240

Albion
320x 292
300x 320
270x 525
220x 845
150x 1290
115x 1590
70x 2210

I have 2 questions
1) Is the anon tracking exp with us today? because if not, its going to be super slow for me to update the sheets for next week
2) Are we going to include Asmund and Dawn into our parties? Asmund had 19 levels in spellchanter and 39 in noble (i may rename spellchanter job as something else). As a vampire, he has the advantage that, as long as his party isint wiped out, he will automatically respawn in 5 rounds. Dawn has a MP tank of 5000 that cannot grow, and she cannot recover MP on her own. She's technically immune to magic, and shes a knight 19/noble 19

>>36315133
sure bring asmund and dawn i dont see why not

>>36315133
I'm afraid that if we help make Asmund too strong, he'll get impatient and try to fight his father prematurely.

>>36315133
I'm around. Is that Eopolis gain in addition to or including the earlier XP boost you gave us while we were there?

>>36315133
No to asmund.

>>36315133

Has Asmund gone through much character development? I am fine for normal dungeon run where we act like a normal dungeon run with him, without showing off too much.

I don't want to let the secret out until he starts going towards Okaba's views a bit more.

>>36315269
Okaba has been giving him lessons to be a good leader
asmund stated as much

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>>36314773
>>36314829
>Begin work on the generators++
>>36315069
>>36315076
>>36314947
>craft a few prototype healing dispensers+++

>>36315133
oh, remember Asmund takes 50% extra damage from healing spells, and he could be exorcized

Well, as the rest of the year passes by, we craft a couple of rings for mom and dad, carrying the agelessness (tier 1) enchantment,

Our school work is excellent, so mom has no complains about us continuing to be adventurers.

We celebrate Stella's 5th birthday with a party at home, a small event where she gets a lot of clothes and toys from everyone, and dad has to promise to let her stay with him all day the day after the party, and scratch her ears on demands.

As a small side prokect, Okaba crafts 6 magically linked schoolbooks. Anything doodled or written on any one of them appears on all the others. Well, he made them as a fast way to exchange research data, so obviously we, he and Asmund each get one. The other three exist because party limit is 6. so he could make that many, and why not?

Their total cost is 600g and just 1200MP, so while expensive, its not prohibitively so (for us, anyway).

We ask him for his notes on it, and make a set for ourselves, giving one to dad, and sending three to grandfather, uncle wolfric, and cousin Alard, with a spare.

Well, the books are 300 pages thick, so while they won't be filled in a rush, they are not infinite, so we all try to keep messages down to one letter a month.

The healing expenders are a success.

>>36315269
>>36315224
lets keep him out for now, then, since he's still in the "morally gray" area for now, even if he's near its edge after we helped him with Dawn

And the exp for Eopolis is new. Its for the last weeks of our stay. The dungeons there are just higher levels, so we have access to more exp there

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>>36315451
The healing expenders are a success. The townsfolk begin flocking to them for cheap healing potions every day. At first, its a huge crowd every day, but as time passes, they realize the expender is really a permanent, new feature on the temple, and they begin using it with less fear of it being removed.

A sort of unwriten rule emerges. People going to it must drink the potion right there, so it is clear they are not hoarding it.

"Ah... it feels odd knowing we did that for free, you know?" ~says Asmund
"Odd how? do you regret it?" ~asks Okaba
"No, is not that... now I just worry if doing good things is just fuel for a superiority complex, or not"
"I don't think someone trying to feel superior would even worry about such a thing, count" ~Okaba pats his shoulder

Well, Asmund is still a bit snobbish, but he's not an asshole. Okaba keeps exposing him to the plights of the common folk, and they keep discussing about politics and "noblesse oblige". He will probably never be a saint, but you are less and less worried about him being a tyrant.

As for our research on enchantments... Asmund's method is much cheaper, but as mentioned before, it requires a constant supply of mana, while Okaba's is much more expensive, but it's a one-time payment.

After almost a whole semester, we come up with a "by stages" method which allows us to pay for an item on successive days, but the item is completely inert before the mana is fully paid for,

10000 mana is too much to reliably pay all at once, but 500 mana every day for about 3 weeks its much more manageable, if obviously slower.
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What do you want to call this method?

>>36315739
That's...a really big deal. Especially to us. That means we can create a greater enchantment in an extremely short amount of time by dumping all of our mana and replenishing it in the dungeon.

So...The Mortgage method would be my suggestion.

>>36315451
For job stats, is it safe to use the stuff you've posted in threads already? Specifically talking about the jobs unlocked after we got scion mk2.

>>36315739
Since we did come up with it, traditionally it should be called "the Lightbringer Process", from our chemical engineer background.

>>36315739
Coalition-Style enchanting.

>>36315902

Have to agree to this.

Coalition Enchanting.

Since it was put together from everyone involved.

>>36315902
>>36315926
supported

>>36315808
Can we use the dungeon key to teleport to a specific floor from anywhere? Like, from okaba's lab? And can we then use the key okaba gave us to teleport directly back there (assuming okaba is in the room)?

Cause we could finish entire sets of greater enchantment cards in a day that way.

>>36315451
we should really get Asmund a high quality protection from healing/holy accessory.

also as far as stopping his sisters MP leak we could pray to the lady.

>>36315739
MP/spell/enchantment lattice building/crystallization?

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>>36316010
Uhmm... yep
>>36315844
yes, im pretty sold on stats, i will just continue to adjust abilities, but stats are easy to balance, I think

>>36315902
I like that one

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"Zoe?"

A bunch of soft white hair and fluffy ears poking out from under out sheets as we wake up can't really belong to anyone else.

In the morning of our 11th birthday, we get up with a kitty clinging to us, arms and legs wrapped around us.

Well, this world doesn't celebrate the 11th birthday, but, we can probably consider this hug as our gift?

"Zoe, wake up" ~Eldric says gently as he scratches her behind the ears
"Uhmm" ~she sounds happy, and starts mewing and purring~ "I don't want to"
"Sleeping people don't talk"
"I do"
"Silly" ~Eldric reaches under the sheets and tickles her until she lets him go and sits on the bed, still under the sheets

She looks pretty cute with her new pajamas

"Eldric, I want to go see the nomads today"
"Why?"
"Because I want to"

*Spoil our lion sister a little bit, and take her to the nomads
*No, no, we have important SCIENCE to do at school!

***
Anyway guys, should we stop here for tonight? its pretty late and we are missing people already. I dont know if we lost people or they are just planning to read the archives to catch up later, but in case that's it, we already did a LOT today

>>36316010
Let's talk logistics for a moment.

Assume we want to create accessory sets for our entire family that give greater enchantments for all primary stats, along with mp. Additionally we'd want effects like regen, haste, refresh, and celerity if possible. All linked to kobold cards because they have numeric effects. That will fully fill four 6-slot accessory items. Assume runic quality for these items because legendary offers minor boosts compared to what we're putting into them. What the hell, throw in agelessness for one of the items just because.

So that's 13 effects per set, each costing 10k mana to enchant. 130k mana. We can use around 4k mana at a time, so it would take 2.5 times our mana to fully enchant one effect. Assume it takes 10 minutes to key ourselves down into a dungeon and refill mana, then key back to a lab. It would require 2.5*13=32.5, 33*10 = 330 minutes, or 5.5 hours to fully enchant one of these sets, assuming all other materials were set up. So basically one full set per day.

We have 10 members in our family. It would take us about a week and a half to set up everyone with this equipment.

>>36316315
>*Spoil our lion sister a little bit, and take her to the nomads
ok with ending it here but im voting for the start of the next thread

>>36316315
>*Spoil our lion sister a little bit, and take her to the nomads

>>36316315
I was always here, just not participating because I was busy bringing in a couch for my father in the middle of the night.

>>36316315
>*Spoil our lion sister a little bit, and take her to the nomads
it is our bday lets take time off

>>36316315
>*No, no, we have important SCIENCE to do at school!
I'm fine with ending.

>>36316315
>*Spoil our lion sister a little bit, and take her to the nomads

Why not?

I am fine with continuing, however of course it mostly depends how long you can keep going.

>>36316315
>Spoil our lion sister a little bit, and take her to the nomads

>>36316346
Card requirements would be 120 kobold cards, along with 120 cards of any type that can be placed into accessories, preferably as cheap as possible. 40 runic accessory items, split up into sets of 4.

So gold-wise that's probably in the realm of 1000 or so. Easily affordable for us.

>>36316315
>*Spoil our lion sister a little bit, and take her to the nomads
We're the best big brother ever

>>36316315

In the school dungeon, or the school dungeon boss, have we found any good raw materials to produce accessories or armors with? like the top 2 tiers of stuff?

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>>36316346
lets see,,,

head
amulet
bracelets
left ring
right ring
shoes

6 slots
2 "natural" greater enchantments
3 enchanted cards, each with a kobold card attached

thats 30 effects per set, not 13... ah wait you said runic, not legendary... so
6 slots
1 natural greater enchantment slot
2 naturalmedium enchentment slots
3 cards

36 effects, albeit 12 of those are medium, and 24 ate greater

greater costs 10k mana each so 240k there, and 12 medium, or 12k. Thats 252k mana per set at 500 mana per "payment" thats about 504 payments per set... i think. Im sleepy now

I think saying a month is more realistic, since we do a lot of other stuff on the day, too

Alright, next week we are starting with Zoe time, then

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>>36316526
no legendary materials, but plenty of runic, and with how much we've buffed grummir, i think its fair to assume we can realistically aim for legendary stuff. Its just that aiming for legendary stuff with 6 slots involves a LOT more trips to the dungeon and honestly monsters dont respawn that fast

Night, guys

>>36316621
No, I'm saying that we would only have 12 greater enchantments to put onto cards. Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, Cha, App, MP, Regen, Haste, Refresh, Celerity. That would fit onto 4 accessory items.

>>36316676
good night dream well

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>>36316686
aaaaaan i see

>>36313032
I just wonder if she would still think it's prestigious. It was made by people with around 200 int to congratulate other people with around 200 int. That shit is kiddy league, and she knows that now.

>Turning our family into power houses
>Shit goes down, like demon invasin (bugs)
>Family at the forefront
>The cult grows

>>36319005
That's assuming that the founding archmages who made the award were regular archmages, and not the FUCKOFFPLEB-tier Archmages who had a ScionV2 friend, like grandpa with his friend the Pope.
We can't assume that we're the strongest or smartest character around, because at the real international level, there are actual retired gods and demigods who do have higher stats and more levels than us.

>>36316809
Spreadsheet anon here, I've added Worldsoul, Thinkerer, Son of the Akasha, Necromancer, Demonologist, True Namer, Oracle of the Void to the sheet. Wasn't sure at what tier oracle of the void was, so I set it to 1. Set all the others to 2.

That's only half the jobs you introduced, but that's probably enough to allocate xp, so I'll start doing that.

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>>36312456
I do, won't elaborate though. Any given quest ought be limited to their own threads. No need to "spread the word" or anything when one works within the framework of anonymity. There are those who know do and get it, and those who don't. The latter weren't into that sort of thin most likely.

That is neither bad nor good, everything has its own place.

>>36319679
Link please?

>>36319679
I'm going to guess that since Eldric is still "researching" the jobs, he hasn't levelled them yet, aside from Necromancer.

MAYBE Demonologist and VirusDemonbuster whatever job, but only because a god specifically discussed that job with him.

>>36320157
I actually had him level everything we have stats for aside from demonologist, since they all seem pretty useful.

Though we can use that excuse for the 7 jobs we haven't leveled due to lack of stats.

Btw, eldric has every job in the pdf now barring duelist, the beastmen exclusives, and dreadnought.

Only finished leveling him, but here's a partially updated sheet: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hk3egjo4vha8r1s/Reborn%20Character%20Sheets%20v2.1.ods?dl=0

Eldric's stats are kinda high now.

>>36320379
>Btw, eldric has every job in the pdf now barring duelist, the beastmen exclusives, and dreadnought.
I knew this would happen from the first thread.

ahh, how time flies...

>>36320379
Just done Eldric I guess. We got shitloads of xp for him.

Wonder if we can push lyann to level 100 slave for scion before we get shipped out.

Probably should push Stella/zoe to like 50-60 slave, doubt we can get them to scion, then swap to noble

>>36320456
>Wonder if we can push lyann to level 100 slave for scion before we get shipped out.
We'd need to do another summer trip to eopolis. The dungeons at the magic university are crap for xp now.

>>36320629

Looking like it.

In Eopolis we can fight mobs that give at least 5x the xp per kill.

11k a kill? it is almost like that one set of 70 did more then all we did in Albion. We were never told how deep the dungeon goes at university also, probably only to like level 35ish.

And we were told that respawn time is an issue.

>>36320665
>We were never told how deep the dungeon goes at university also, probably only to like level 35ish.
He said in an earlier thread they went to level 35-40

>>36320629
>>36320665
What about one-man boss runs?

Or letting Okaba experiment in artificially increasing monster levels?
>Fertilizer on Plant mobs
>Feed high level mobs and drops to HIGHER level mob

>>36320742

Probably solo runs are not worth explaining the increased risk. Besides I think Eldric is the only one driven for the levels.

They are still good for pushing a lot of lower classes up to like effective level 40-60. Just past that run out of gas I guess.

Relic level materials, we can have made to legendary items is good. especially since there are bonus's on the armor that is more then just stats.

I know we got a +treasure quality on boots.

>>36320665
I don't think we could get her to level 100. That would require 2.6 million total xp, and even eldric doesn't have that much yet.