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"I hope you're satisfied, truly," Frieza comments as he stares down at you and the others. "You've managed to dash my hopes against the craggy shores of your ignorance."

His eyes roam the surrounding area, and he lets out a chuckle.

"And what has become of the Ginyu Force, I wonder. Did you really do away with them all?" he asks. "Sadly boys, I'm afraid this won't do. Indulge me; you've said your goodbyes, yes?"

He slowly floats off the mountain and lowers himself to the ground.

"Ah, to see the Dragonballs turn to stone at the very moment your wish might have come true. Quite a pill to swallow, eh, Vegeta?" he asks calmly.

"Of course, even more so for myself," he continues in the same calm demeanor. "In fact, in all my years I've never been so angry as I am now."

He takes a single step forward.

"How incredibly irritating not to have seen the writing on the wall," he growls. "Now you'll pay! YOU VILE, FILTH-SUCKING MAGGOTS! YOU WILL RUE THE DAY YOU CROSSED MY PATH! PREPARE YOURSELVES TO EMBRACE OBLIVION!"

"Stay out of this!" Vegeta demands, turning to look at you.

>A. Prepare to fight

>B. Get out of the way and let Vegeta handle this

>C. Stay silent and remain where you are
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>>36995545
>A. Prepare to fight
yeah no, no time to pussyfoot around
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>>36995545
>C. Stay silent and remain where you are
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>>36995545
>B. Get out of the way and let Vegeta handle this
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>>36995545
>B. Get out of the way and let Vegeta handle this
He won't learn if we don't let him fail
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>>36995545
>B. Get out of the way and let Vegeta handle this
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>>36995545
>B. Get out of the way and let Vegeta handle this
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>>36995545
>d. Repeat everything frieza says in a high pitched mocking voice
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>>36995545
>B. Get out of the way and let Vegeta handle this
welp
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>>36995545
>>A. Prepare to fight
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>>36995545
>>B. Get out of the way and let Vegeta handle this

GOTTA GET BACK UP AND EAT THAT HORSE
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>>36995545
Why should we listen to you Vegeta? You killed our friends just about 3 months ago. You only helped us because you couldn't beat Frieza or his men yourself.
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>>36995545
>B

Pass the popcorn.
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>>36995545
>D. Woah, Frieza, sounds like you need to chill out man
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>>36995625
All the more reason to let him get his ass kicked
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>>36995647
Changing to this.

Also shouldn't we sense that he is weaker than us?
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>>36995647
Hahaha this one please
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>>36995545
"Take him out quickly, don't screw around."
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>>36995660
Only if he used the scouter, even then full power he could take us.
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>>36995647
oh man
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>>36995599
>>36995647
This.
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>>36995647
puns should be our thing.
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>>36995647
sounds hilarious
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>>36995647
here we go
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You're confident that you could defeat Frieza yourself. But, Vegeta seems determined to do it, and you see no reason not to let him try.

You, Krillin, Gohan, Chiaotzu, and Dende move out of the way as Vegeta prepares to confront Frieza.

"Finally letting your true colors show, are you?" Vegeta asks. "Alright then, do your worst. But, if you think this is going to be easy, you are dead wrong."

Frieza laughs. "Of all the things you might have said. I daresay you seem to have forgotten how vastly terrifying I can be. Let's refresh your memory."

With a loud yell, Frieza begins to gather power. The ground shakes beneath your feet, and chunks of it begin lifting into the air. Vegeta stands his ground as Frieza continues to power up. Gohan, Krillin, and Chiaotzu, however, look absolutely terrified.

"H-he's even worse than I thought he'd be!" Krillin cries out.

"He's a monster! What are we going to do?" Chiaotzu asks.

The tremors from Frieza powering up worsen, and a nearby mountain crumbles. Larger chunks of Earth begin to rise into the air, and a large crack forms between Vegeta's feet.

With a grin, Frieza finishes powering up, and a large pillar of rock shoots up between him and Vegeta. It suddenly breaks in half, and a wave of energy shoots between it and heads for Vegeta, who easily evades it.

Gohan, Krillin, Chiaotzu, and Dende take cover as Vegeta continues to dodge Frieza's attacks.

>A. Take cover with them

>B. Stay out here and watch the battle

>C. Assess Frieza's strength
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>>36995831
>B. Stay out here and watch the battle
>C. Assess Frieza's strength
NO FEAR
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>>36995819
We are 6. We'd love these things, besides, we can sense that Frieza right now is not stronger than us. Even his second form isn't.
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>>36995831
>C. Assess Frieza's strength
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>>36995831
>C. Assess Frieza's strength
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>>36995831
>>B. Stay out here and watch the battle
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>>36995844
this
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>>36995831
>C. Assess Frieza's strength
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>>36995831
>little bit of column A and a little bit of column B, let's back the fuck up but still watch some. We can always dodge if it gets sketchy.
>C. Assess Frieza's strength
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>>36995844
2nd
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>>36995831
>chunks of Earth
>not chunks of Namek
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So do we power up as close to his 2nd forms power, until piccolo arrives and let him handle it.Then we go full power when he transforms to his 3rd form?
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>>36995831
>>36995844
this
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>>36995915

Pretty much, the plan is that once Frieza starts to kick Piccolo's ass.

Anyone wondering and looking forward to how buttmad Frieza will be that a Six year old is strong enough to force him to go to his Final Form?
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>>36995953
(Vegeta Mad)^2 + 1
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>>36995953
He goes after us first instead of Dende in his final form.
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>>36995844
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While the others run cover, you remain where you are, taking stock of your foe's strength.

He's the most powerful opponent you've ever encountered. Even Goku would need to multiply his strength multiple times with the Kaio-ken to match it. You can understand why he's so feared by so many. Still, his strength seems to only be about a third of yours.

At the same time, however, you can tell that Vegeta's confidence wasn't entirely unwarranted. His strength is far greater than it was on Earth, and greater than any enemy you've faced on this planet so far.

He dodges Frieza's attacks effortlessly, and when Frieza shoots one your way, you do the same. A moment later, Krillin, Gohan, and Chiaotzu emerge from cover and prepare to attack Frieza from behind, only to be immediately forced to take evasive action as Frieza turns his attacks on them.

They manage to dodge until Frieza herds them to a spot near the location where they had been hiding. Dende rushes from cover to them, and everyone turns in fear as Frieza lets out another attack.

Vegeta quickly moves in front of the blast, and punches it away.

>A. Stay where you are

>B. Go to the others
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>>36996003
>>A. Stay where you are
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>>36996003
>B. Go to the others
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>>36996003
>A. Stay where you are
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>>36996003
>B. Go to the others
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>>36996003
>B. Go to the others
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>>36996003
>B. Go to the others
Be a dick move not to protect them.
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>>36996003
>>A. Stay where you are
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>>36996003
>B. Go to the others
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>>36996003
>B. Go to the others
We're going to have to make sure Freiza doesn't wreck them
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>>36996003
>b. let's keep the krillin owned counter from unnecessarily ticking up.
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>>36996003
>A. Stay where you are
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>>36996021
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>>36996043
You leap into the air and come down to land next to the others.

"H-hey, guys? You get the feeling we're out of our league here?" Krillin asks.

Frieza chuckles. "Of course you are. After all, when ants battle a dinosaur, who do you think emerges the victor?"

"Really, Frieza, I think our chances of winning are just as high as yours," Vegeta replies.

"You think that? Truthfully?" Frieza asks.

"I do," Vegeta answers.

Frieza laughs. "Such a sense of humor."

"Don't believe me?" Vegeta asks. "Just look at them. Their power levels are growing! The kids in particular. Their power levels are enormous. And as for me, I've become the one thing you fear, the legendary Super Saiyan!"

"Do you really expect me to take such desperate boasts at face-value?" Frieza asks.

"I guess you'll find out," Vegeta tells him.

Frieza scowls. "I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR PATHETIC LIES!"

With a yell, he launches himself at Vegeta, throwing a punch with his left hand. Vegeta catches it, and the two fighters struggle against one another. Frieza attempts a palm strike with his right hand, but Vegeta catches that attack as well.

The two warriors push against one another, the ground beneath them being pushed down into a crater. As they continue to struggle against one another, the crater grows larger and larger.

"IMPOSSIBLE!" Frieza screams.

Seconds later, his scouter explodes, and both he and Vegeta leap back.

Vegeta is breathing heavily, but Frieza seems unfazed.

>A. Ask Vegeta if he's alright

>B. See if Frieza's power has increased

>C. Stay where you are

>D. Prepare to step in
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>>36996193
>>A. Ask Vegeta if he's alright
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>>36996193
>>B. See if Frieza's power has increased
>D. Prepare to step in

Fuck Vegeta's pride, we need to be ready for anything
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>>36996193
>D. Prepare to step in
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>>36996193
>B. See if Frieza's power has increased
>D. Prepare to step in
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>>36996193
>B. See if Frieza's power has increased
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>>36996193
>A.
>D.
Let's do this shit
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Happy Holidays, guys. Wanted to do something as thanks to Dralo running this week. Now to wait in anticipation for going all out.
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>>36996193
>B. See if Frieza's power has increased
>D. Prepare to step in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdcjvMk26Fg
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>>36996193
>A. Ask Vegeta if he's alright
>B. See if Frieza's power has increased
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"Vegeta, are you okay?" you ask.

"Never better," he replies, eyes not leaving Frieza.

It bothers you that Frieza doesn't seem effected by such an intense struggle. His power feels the same as it did when he first powered up, yet you can't shake the feeling that he's hiding more. You prepare to step in, but stop when Frieza speaks.

"Well, it seems that there was a small grain of truth to your fantasy," Frieza comments.

"Why don't you transform, Frieza?" Vegeta asks.

"Transform?" Gohan asks.

"Ah, so you know my little secret," Frieza says, amused.

"Yes, Zarbon told me all about it," Vegeta explains.

>A. Ask what he means by transform

>B. Stay silent

>C. Ask Vegeta if this is a good idea
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>>36996306
>C. Ask Vegeta if this is a good idea
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>>36996250
Magnificent.
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>>36996306
>B. Stay silent
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>>36996306
>C. Ask Vegeta if this is a good idea
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>>36996306
>>C. Ask Vegeta if this is a good idea
"Shouldn't we just take him down now?"
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>>36996306
>C. Ask Vegeta if this is a good idea
"Yo vegi you sure you got this?"
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>>36996306
>B. Stay silent
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>>36996306
"He's not going to turn into a giant lizard or something right? If you can still turn into a giant monkey that would be neat I guess."
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>>36996306
>A. Ask what he means by transform
"How much stronger can you get, Mister Freezer?"
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>>36996306
>A. Ask what he means by transform
>C. Ask Vegeta if this is a good idea
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In this canon Gohan should have his tail, since Vegeta never cut it off. Though not sure if him transforming into his giant monkey form would be a good idea.
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>>36996306
>C. Hey Vegeta, what the fuck.
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>>36996381
This planet sucks, let's fuckin trash it.
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Wtf, Does Frieza even stand a chance against us, (A super fucking human,) Vegeta, ( A Saiyan,) And Goku? (arguably the most powerful at the moment,)
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>>36996491
Only one way to find out
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>>36996491
At full power he would mop the floor with all of us. I wonder if we should ask King Kai if we're allowed to fight yet.
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>>36996517
Deck him in the snoz?
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>>36996491
We're way more powerful than Goku at this exact moment, and probably will be more powerful than him when he returns. Our max power is a bit higher than Frieza's base final form. But, Frieza can multiply that power just by going up a single percent
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>>36996540
Suckerpunch while he's transforming
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>>36996540
Deck him in the schnoz.
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>>36996491
We could probably smack him around a bit pretty easily but once he stops fucking around shit will get real
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"Is this a good idea?" you ask Vegeta.

"Relax, his power wont increase that much," Vegeta assures you.

"You think so?" Frieza asks.

"Wait, what do you mean by transform?" Krillin asks.

"Now and again you'll meet freaks in the universe who wear clever little disguises to hide their true strength, usually to conserve energy," Vegeta explains. "Frieza is just such a freak."

Frieza chuckles. "In my case, Vegeta, I don't often use my transformed state simply because it's energy is far to great to control."

"Prove it," Vegeta tells him.

"Very well, I'll indulge you. Though, it's only fair that I inform you that any slim hope you had of victory is about to slip away," Frieza tells him, clenching his hands into fists.

In moments, Frieza sheds his armor, grows in height and bulk, and his power level shoots through the roof, reaching a point where it feels almost two-thirds as strong as yours. Vegeta, brimming with confidence moments ago, steps back, eyes wide with terror.

"W-what are you?" Vegeta asks in shock.

Frieza smirks. "Come now, Vegeta, isn't this what you wanted?"

Vegeta, trembling in fear, doesn't answer.

" Let me give you an idea of just how over your head you are," Frieza says. "The last time I clocked this power, it was at one million."

>A. Ask what it was before

>B. Say you're stronger than that

>C. Keep quiet

>D. Power up to about Frieza's level

>E. Power up to full strength
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>>36996546
Dodon Ray his eye. Blind the bastard.
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>>36996541
Kio ken could make goku more powerful than us but on a numeric power level standpoint we're a god
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>>36996555
>E. Power up to full strength
Put the fear of Kaguya in him.
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>>36996555
>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
>A. Ask what it was before
buy time for Goku!
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>>36996555
>A. Ask what it was before
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>>36996555
>A. Ask what it was before
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>>36996555
>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
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>>36996555
>>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
"Tag in Vegeta."
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>>36996555
>A. Ask what it was before
>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
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>>36996555
>A. Ask what it was before
>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
This is the saiyan saga all over again, waiting for Goku.
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>>36996555
>C. Keep quiet
>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
actions and words and such
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>>36996573

I still want to wait till he goes third form for that, no one died during his second form anyway.
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>>36996555
>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
Conserving energy isn't actually a bad plan, and I want to rub Vegeta's face in this a little.
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>>36996555
>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
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>>36996597
Almost want him to gore Krillin so Gohan snaps and then needs to be healed and gets a boost.
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>>36996588
I think we can go a slightly different route this time, if we can keep Dende alive then we can strive against Frieza and have others buy us time while we get healed if he does too much damage. Ideally we want Goku to go Super Saiyan here as well but there's still a possibility of that happening while also hanging in there ourselves.
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>>36996616
Krillion dosent get one of those
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>>36996555

>A. Ask what it was before
>D. Power up to about Frieza's level
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Ask him how, since his scouter just exploded from Vegata's power level.
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>>36996632
No, but Gohan gets smacked around after smacking Frieza around and gets healed.
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>>36996632
>Krillion
the unit of how many times krillin gets beat up to make someone mad.
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are we alive
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>>36996865
Currently we are. DRALO is another question though.
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>>36996637
"What was it before?" you ask Frieza.

"530,000" he tells you. "Your chances have gone from slim to none."

You step past Vegeta, and towards Frieza, showing no fear whatsoever. Why would you? This opponent is still much weaker than you.

"Do you truly wish to test me, child?" Frieza asks, stepping forward.

"Kid, it's suicide!" Vegeta tells you.

Clenching your hands into fists and bringing them to your side, you let out a yell and begin gathering energy. Nearby mountains crumble, massive waves form in the nearby oceans, the ground trembles, and pieces of it are ripped into the air. Fissures begin forming all around you, and a mighty wind blows.

Vegeta stares at you, wide-eyed, as do the others, as you continue gathering your strength, stopping when it's more or less equal to Frieza's.

"Ah, you have a bit of fight in you," Frieza laughs. "Let's see what you can do."

With that, he charges.

>A. Go on the defensive

>B. Meet his charge

>C. Dodge

>D. Dodon Ray

>E. Energy blast

>F. Wolf Fang Fist
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>>36996891
>>F. Wolf Fang Fist
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>>36996891

>B. Meet his charge
push him back!
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>>36996891
B don't forget about the tail
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>>36996891
>F. Wolf Fang Fist
Let's get some use out of this.
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>>36996891
>B. Meet his charge
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>>36996891
>C.
and
>D.

let's aim for something he'll miss
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>>36996891
>F. Wolf Fang Fist
In the dick... -ish region.
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>>36996891
>D. Dodon Ray
Aim for his eye.
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>>36996927
his tail
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>>36996921
>>36996916
>>36996915
You spring forward, meeting Frieza's charge.

Catching the tyrant off guard, you manage to land the first strike, kicking him in the face and causing him to step back. Gathering energy, you hurl a fierce blast at your disoriented foe.

He manages to recover quickly enough to leap over it, but you quickly follow with a Dodon Ray that slices off a section of his tail. Giving you a hateful look, he pulls his right fist to his chest, coming back to ground and opening it, palm upward.

A massive shockwave of energy shoots away from him in every direction. The others are far enough away to take to the air and avoid it, but you're struck before you have the chance. The blast isn't powerful enough to hurt you much, but it does cause you to roll backwards, completely disoriented.

Before you can regain your bearings, Frieza is upon you, slamming his foot down onto your chest.

"Well, that was impressive, kid," he tells you, putting more weight onto you. "Really, but I can't allow something so rude as damaging my tail to go unpunished."

>A. Blast him in the face

>B. Power up a bit more and throw him off of you

>C. Dodon Ray his leg
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>>36997052
>>C. Dodon Ray his leg
then follow up with a Wolf Fang Fist!
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>>36997052
>C. Dodon Ray his leg
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>>36997052
>C. Dodon Ray his leg
slow him down!
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>>36997052
>C. Dodon Ray his leg
Keep racking up wounds before he forces us to power up a bit more.
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>>36997052
>A. Blast him in the face
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>>36997052
>>C. Dodon Ray his leg

death by a thousand cuts
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>>36997052
>C. Dodon Ray his leg
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>>36997052

Hit his leg next.

We can't really kill him. He is tanky enough to take any instant kill shots.

We need to make him bleed so that way when Goku shows up he won't be able to go full power for too long.
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As he continues to put more weight on your chest, you raise your right hand and point at his leg.

"DODON RAY!" you shout, a thin beam of light shooting from your index finger and through Frieza's leg.

Letting out an enraged yell, Frieza leaps off of you, holding his left arm out and opening its palm towards you.

"You little brat! It's time you learned some manners!"

You roll out of the way as a powerful energy blast shoots down at you. Getting to your feet, you manage to dodge the next one as well.

After firing just a few more blasts, Frieza pulls his fist to his chest again. But, this time you know what to expect, and leap into the air in time to avoid the shockwave, as Frieza takes aim with another blast.

>To be continued

So guys, the next update should be Saturday or Sunday evening

Suptg seems to be down, but I'll answer any nonspoilery questions before I leave.
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>>36997207
How long until piccolo arrives?
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can we dodon ray with both hands I really want to dodon ray with both hands
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>>36997207
How long until the remaining Ginyu's wake up?
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>>36997207
As always feedback on our choices is welcome. Thanks for running. What are the chances of converting the Ginyus?
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>>36997222
A few minutes

>>36997242
Any minute now
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>>36997207
How angry is Freiza compared to cannon right now?
How angry is Vegeta?
How impressed are our friends?
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>>36997249
How strong is Piccolo in comparison to canon?
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>>36997248
Slim to none. And your choices have mostly been pretty good.

>>36997255
About the same

Furious

Extremely

>>36997266
The same
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>>36997255
>How angry is Vegeta?
I'm pretty sure he is too busy crying like a bitch to be angry.

>>36997207
Is Vegeta going to throw a tantrum if the other Ginyu's show up?
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So will the ginyu's help frieza, side with us, or will they run into piccolo?
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>>36997279
Can we get Vegteta to go SSJ from his endless envy at a 6 year old?
Can we convert the Ginyu squad into the Kaguya squad?
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>>36997207

Looks like we are playing different games.

Freiza is just playing around, wanting to crush us without going in too many forms.

We are playing for time, trying to hurt him as much as possible.

We are still fucked when he steps it up to the 4th transformation.

Just hope we can pull out atleast one or two GUTS based human poweups then.
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>>36997279
Any feedback on that idea of using the theory behind the Taihouki to shift the total amount of our energy around without expending it like Nen?

>>36997299
He'll tell us how stupid we are for letting them live. We should say he's probably right then kill brutally kill them all in an instant.
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>>36997317
or we could kill him now before he transforms
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>>36997279
Is the fact Dende might not heal anyone until after Goku shows up going to be important? Like could fuck up the last wish important?

What if we knock Vegeta out to keep him from killing the Ginyus, while their conscious? Would that boost our chances?
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>>36997317
IC I think Kaguya is playing around as well. It's less he's playing for time for Goku to arrive and more that he doesn't go all out unless he has to and Frieza so far hasn't really forced his hand.

Our reasons are different though sure.
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>>36997336

I think he is to tanky and savy to suffer a kill shot like that. Just likely to push him to 4th form quicker.
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>>36997348
Probably not. You have to remember despite the Ginyu's being something of a Joke Squad of villains they've all killed planets worth of people. They're pretty unrepentantly evil even in death. It's a fun joke about making them do our chores and such but unless we use a wish to make our persuasiveness supernatural or something most of the Planet Trade guys are going to have to be put down.
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>>36997375
He needs a few seconds of concentration to transform. Just don't give those to him and we're fine.
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>>36997413
Well we could get super natural persuasion. We just have to keep trying until we succeed by pushing through the barrier.
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Well we now know Kaguya just increased his chances of getting killed and making Goku turn ssj, since we are the ones that cut off friezas tail
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>>36997413
Vegeta was the same.
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>>36997413
Vegeta has killed planets worth of people too
In fact it was his job for his entire life
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>>36997468
why is the abbreviation for super saiyan ssj? just curious
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>>36997468

Bound to happen. We also put a hole in his leg, which will make him even more pissed.

Next thread we should keep pushing the attack.
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>>36997481
>>36997484
Yeah, but he had a whole planet full of angst backing him towards a very very slow redemption. If of course we decided to spare theses guys lives and rule through fear we might get a positive(ish) result. If we want a Ginyu or two to become good without doing that we basically have to go the Kim Kaphwan route of forced rehabilitation through constant ass beatings.
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>>36997533
>Jeice ends up with Bulma instead
Let's destroy the timeline beyond repair.
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>>36997500
'Saiya-jin', where 'jin' is literally People. Like the Japanese are the Nippon-jin.
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>>36997500
something about -jin meaning people as in race, it was cut off when dbz was dubbed
[S]uper [S]aiya-[j]in
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>>36997500
Japanese pronunciation is Super Saiya Jin (Saiya being a people's type, Jin meaning person. People from the Americas would be called Americajin or something like that).
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>>36997556
>destroy the timeline beyond repair
I've wanted that the whole time, but people keep making boring-ass decisions and sticking as close to canon as possible.
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>>36997556
I think this is the plot of crocodile dundee
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>>36997556
Well the timeline is destroyed beyond repair considering Kaguya exists when he isn't suppose to.
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>>36997555
Hey, if we decide to go through forced rehabilitation then we may as well revive Nappa and Raditz and force them to not be dicks and to Git Gud on pain of ass whuppings. I don' think Parunga has the same limits on time that the earth's dragon balls do for revivals since they seem stronger in general but more specific.
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>>36997620
So far the only difference from cannon is Chiaotzu and some of the Ginyus being alive. The former is a non entity and the latter is most likely going to be non entities as well
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>>36997620
We need to destroy it more. Have a Ginyu or two end up on Earth in their bodies. Keep,Gohan strong after Cell. Get Krillin to use a Destructo Disc again, soon, so we can steal it and use it on Frieza and leave him crippled for Goku.
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>>36997647
I am entirely cool with that
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Who will be our waifu though?
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>>36997647
Nappa and Raditz would keep getting stronger, and in theory could catch up to us if the go SSJ.
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>>36997679
We have 5 options:
1: No waifu
2: Go homo
3: OC donut steel
4: NTR Gohan
5: Some obscure bitch I'm sure I've forgotten
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>>36997666
I don't mind messing up the timeline, I just want Trunks and Goten to be born since I find their presence amusing. Kicking in Cell's and the Android's teeth would be fun if we can manage it.

>>36997683
The more powerful opponents/rivals we have the better. Hell we should try and recruit Broly for extra hard mode. Beat the cray cray out of him and visit every other month for a tune up sparing match.

>>36997679
Shen Long
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>>36997701
OC Donut Steel or Videl's friend make the most sense, though I'm uninterested in Waifu's and don't particularly mind if we avoid romance.
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>>36997702
>we destroy 17 and 16
>Cell can't go perfect
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>>36997731
Bring 16 to the farm instead
It would be perfect
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>>36997741
He could look at the birds.
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>>36997741
16 as a farm hand would be glorious. He might not approve of slaughtering animals though so put him to tending the milking cows and hay bales. He'd also make a good protector for the folks if we could have Bulma find a way to recharge him from time to time. Maybe visit Arale's creator for tips.
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>>36997757
He could become a chicken farmer
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>>36997766
>>36997757
We should just keep bringing the random people we defeat back to our farm to help out
Ginyu farm squad, 16, revive Nappa and Raditz
Kaguya's folks are gonna be the most mellow people ever after awhile and it will be great
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>>36997827
Instead of it being "Oh no they bought the farm" its gonna be "Oh they were sent to Kaguya's farm"
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>>36997701
Do we dig crazy? could we tame Launch? Tenshinhan won't care probably.
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>>36997863
Launch is old enough to be our mom.

We do have a female friend, if we really care that much about this.
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>>36997836
We should make a wish that gives Kaguya's folks absolute control over anyone or anything that is within the boundaries of their farm or pseudo immortality. All them ex villains that try to use them as hostages only to get the crap kicked out of them would be hilarious.

>>36997863
Naw man, naw.
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>>36997883
Implying hot mom isn't the best part. Besides, it's not like everyone else we know isn't 20 years our elder, it'd be par for the course.
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>>36997897
We will probably end up in high school following the Cell saga. I'm sure we'll meet some females there.
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>>36997701
Theres a girl during the cell saga called Lime. gohan rescues her when he is out searching for a town that isn't empty to buy groceries from the list chi chi gave him
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>>36997938
Doesn't Gohan grab her tits?
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>>36997648

I forget, did Chiaotzu stay on earth? If not, then where the hell is he?
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>>36997977
He's right there watching us fight Frieza.
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>>36997964
Yup, you forget all saiyans are dense when it comes to women
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>>36997921
>>36997938

Yeah, but that was Filler.
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>>36997998
Still doesn't mean she isn't a candidate since Mercenary Tao shows up
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>>36997995
I'm calling him trying to blow up Frieza's 4th form to trigger SSJ in Goku.
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>>36998124
Now that you said it though, you've probably jinxed it. Though, him and Goku aren't really that close.
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>>36997679
Arale
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>>36997718
>don't particularly mind if we avoid romance
I kinda think we should strive to have the most "normal" life possible, if for no other reason than to offset Gohan.
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>>36997679
Zangya.
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We should revive Bardock for fun.
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>>37004861
Is that wise? He IS a mass murderer...
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>>37005073
It'll be fun. Trust me.
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>>37005073
No moreso than Vegeta ever was
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>>37005097
>>37005111
What, is reviving the Saiyan race our hobby?
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>>37005149
I'm not saying we should revive everyone, I'm just saying that Bardock wasn't all that bad comparatively speaking
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>>36997914
Kaguya, What did you do over the school break?

"You know nothing big... work at the farm, run errands, save the world..."
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>>37005201
I was just messing around.

Bardock might be good to have around...
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>>37005201
We should bring Goku's mom back
She is the nicest Sayian after all
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>>37005310
Who the Hell was Goku's mom? Did Toriyama ever even say who she was?
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>>37005323
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Gine
Literally the first result from Google man
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>>37005323
She was a worker at a meat processing plant. She was not a fighter at all.
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>>37005343
>>37005353
huh, this is really recent stuff. I figured if it had to be anyone it'd possibly be that one saiyan woman who was part of Bardock's team in his movie
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I'm quite surprised this is still up..

>>37005503
>>37005343
The whole sotry is cute and I'll accept that she's Goku's mom, but I hate that the story opens up a big plot hole. They steal a space pod and just send Goku off to some random point in space so he's safe if Freezia does something crazy.... but then in Dragon Ball Z Raditz says Goku was sent to Earth on a mission to kill all the humans.

How did Radtiz find out Goku was on Earth? The pod was stolen, so it wouldn't be documented that Goku was in the pod even if it has a tracking device. Also, why would he know it was Goku? There's not evidence that his parents told him about Goku being sent off. And even if he was told that, why would Raditz lie and say Goku was sent to Earth on a mission?

In Bardock Father of Goku, there aren't plot holes like this. Goku is deliberately sent to Earth on his mission, it most likely documented that he is sent to Earth. It is perfectly reasonable, expected even, that Raditz would know all this.
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>>37004861
Can't. Been dead too long.
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>>37008816

Ironically Bardok Father of Goku was anime original, near filler level.

I believe I read elsewhere, that Toriyama liked the character and portrayal so much he ended up including Bardok minorly in the main series.

Ironically the portrayal by Toriyama opens plot holes that should not be there.

I figure that there might be as many 2 dozen Saiyan's still alive when Freiza blew up the planet, but all of them would be aged between Goku and Nappa at the oldest. Probably even fewer left alive by the time the series hit DBZ anyways.
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Okay guys hear me out here. If anyone is still around.

I think we should hook up with Videl and somehow unlock that human potential that we were born with somehow, since she is already accustomed to martial arts. Those aren't mutually exclusive however if you understandably don't want to NTR Gohan.

I just think it would be cool to have this badass human couple as the defenders of Earth.

I also really like Videl so I am very biased.
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>>37009689

Nah, the working canon there is fine.

The problem is in general the lack of relevant female characters in Dragon Ball period.

No way to fix it, other then to make some original characters relevant.
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>>37009689
Or we could do that with one of Kaguya's friends
Haya I think her name was?
Also NTR a shit and Videl with Gohan is cute as fuck
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>>37009689
>Not getting ready to enjoy that sweet Bulma /ss/
Alternatively try and keep a wedge between Vegeta and Bulma so she goes for based Yamcha and creates a waifu for us
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>>37009689
Just go after the filler girls that appeared in dbz
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Bulma has a sister
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>>37010390
Too bad Bra doesn't get conceived until around when Pan is born.
Too bad Pan isn't born sooner.
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>>37010571
True, though I don't think she's ever mentioned in Dragonball
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>>37013059
You could always hope that Broly is a gurl in this timeline. My Waifu is Maximum.

>Unlimited Human + Zenkai + Legendary Super Saiyan transformation + Great Ozaru.

[Eugenics Intensify]
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>>37013291
Yeah, I'm not making Broly female.
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>>37013331

So, New thread soon or waiting till tomorrow?
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As you've probably all guessed, I'm not updating tonight. I'll probably do so either Sunday or Monday night. But, I'll answer a few questions to anyone who's around.

And thanks for keeping the thread alive until someone was able to archive it.
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>>37013353
Tomorrow
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>>37013358

So, since Chiaotzu's alive and on Namek, did he do anything of note up to this point or have things happened more or less the same as in Canon?
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>>37013358
I suppose I'll re-ask this one >>36997332

>>37010571
Huh, learn something new everyday.
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>>37013438
More or less the same, although he was actually the one to fight Guldo. The fight went to a standstill due to them being pretty evenly matched, then Vegeta swooped in and took Guldo out.

>>37013462
I'm not sure that would work.
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>>37013505
Not that guy, but I think the idea is to basically shift and focus Ki around, like using the enhanced version of Wolf Fang Fist, to energize different areas to maximum, and redistributing it for efficiency.
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>>37013669
So basically doing what you did for the Enhanced Wolf Fang Fist on other parts of your body? Yeah, I don't see why that couldn't work.
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>>37013835

Kind of. The idea was to concentrate a large portion of our Ki like we do when we prepare to fire off the Taihouki and then instead of throwing it or expending it in an attack, shifting it around like the enhanced wolf fang fist. If it was shifted to enhance a punch then that punch would carry that much extra power compared to a normal one, if it was shifted to help us fly faster we'd move that much faster compared to normal in a sudden burst etc. Then once we got really good with it we could use that to close in on an enemy much more powerful than us and deliver a Taihouki at point blank range. Or if we've developed it used the energy sword etc. It only works if we normally have our energy evenly distributed to all parts of our body during combat.
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>>37013358
Will Gohan ever catch up?
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>>37014111
Probably, if you train with him and help him tap into that rage of his.

>>37014043
That might work, though if it' evenly distributed, the increase might not be as much as you're hoping.
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>>37014141
I think they mean focusing ki that is usually elsewhere into a different body part.
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>>37014141
It's something we could develop then work towards perfecting at least. Slowly working on our efficiency and not loosing any power when shifting our energy around.

Separately, I recently decided to watch DB Kai and had forgotten that King Kai loved puns so fucking much. No wonder he got a kick out of the Frieza jokes. Also Japan Popo is so racist it's hilarious.

Did Goku teach us the spirit bomb during the trip? Combining that with the enhanced aura idea could be pretty cool, since the spirit bomb misses so often.
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>>37014244
He did not teach you the Spirit Bomb

>>37014224
There's gonna be a drawback any time you take ki from somewhere else.
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>>37014264
Obviously there'd be drawbacks. Did we learn the Destructo Disc from watching Krillin use it? Or does he need to use it again in front of us and have us try to use it?
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>>37014550
Destructo Sword will be fun to make.
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>>37014264
Why are we so strong right now? Is it because people were complaining that things were taking too long and just that a lot of people seem to find the Freezia saga long and boring?
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>>37014568
>use Destructo Disc
>never throw it
>Destructo Buzzsaw
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>>37014618
>>37014244
Oh god, I just Dralo must have some altered time like consequences that's gonna make shit get real.
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>>37014662

Otherwise, it's just gonna be anti climatic tag teaming on freezia.
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>>37014618
Because we power leveled with Goku with the gravity shenanigans. Then whenever we hit a point where we weren't being sufficiently challenged we used multiform to halve our power and become challenged again only to recombine for double the benefits afterwards. This combined with our training buff and Goku's natural ability to become stronger when he gets the crap beat out of him and his personality that loves competition resulted in the perfect storm of Gitan Gud.
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>>37014705
Goku is almost twice as strong as he was in canon because of this. Androids and Cell are going to be really strong as a result. Like Cell might be Buu strong.
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>>37014705
I know, but the problem there is that that means things are boring this saga. There isn't tension because OUR POWER IS MAXIMUM.
>>37014758
Quite possibly. I have thought of that. Thing is we CAN think of that, so even if the point is a false sense of security, it isn't working.
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>>37014681
Without Goku reaching Super Saiyan, final form Frieza would still wreck the both Kaguya and Goku together if he decided to stop fucking around. The key to surviving is making sure he doesn't decide to stop fucking around completely and go 100% on us. Playing around with him until he reaches final form, then holding out for a while and breaking past our limits multiple times to keep up with him as he gets more serious is our best bet at not getting Krillin'd. Also the Ginyu choice is probably going to bite us in the ass next thread. I have a feeling Kaguya is going to get a taste of dead this arc myself. Which is fine, since there's cool shit to do in the otherworld too.
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>>37014776
We are still currently no match for full strength Frieza.
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So, can someone tell me the title of the first human quest(so i can search the archive), or if that's not possible, just give me a short summary of the story so far.
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>>37014758
Except the Androids were built off data from pre-Namek. Dr. Gero had no idea about SSJ.
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>>37014821
Put in Dragonball in the search on suptg and you'll see DBZ Human Quest #1 onwards. Only thread #17 wasn't archived under that tag due to suptg being down.
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>>37014821
https://archive.moe/tg/thread/35614073/#35614073
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>>37014854
Scratch that, 17 was archived I just missed it.
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>>37014839
And yet 17 and 18 got stronger as the Z Warriors did. I didn't mean 19 and 20.
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>>37014934
Technically speaking, they really didn't. In Trunk's world, 17 and 18 were stronger than all of the Z Warriors, including Super Saiyan Gohan. In the main timeline, Piccolo by himself was stronger than 17.

The main advantage of the Androids was
a. they can't be sensed, making it impossible to gauge or detect their power and respond appropriately
and
b. their energy is infinite. They do not suffer from fatigue, and are always operating at maximum power.
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>>37014934
That's making me wonder...

>>37014264
Will it be possible for us to kill #17 or #18 before Cell absorbs them?
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>>37014974
Trunks even says they are stronger in the main timeline. Piccolo was only stronger after fusing with Kami.
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>>37014978
If we get strong enough probably yeah. I'm hoping that if we keep getting ridiculously strong we'll have to deal with other mythic tier threats that pop up as a result. Or if things get too boring we could just try and systematically crush what's left of Frieza's family's empire. There's bound to be all sorts of things out there that can prove dangerous.

>>37014974
>>37014996
On that wasn't it implied their strength decreased as time went by? Like 18 was weaker in the Buu saga than when she first appeared etc. Though yeah their power may as well be endless over the course of a fight.
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>>37014662
Cell Saga is gonna be dangerous for Kaguya.

>>37014681
You're no match for full power Frieza
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>>37015054
>On that wasn't it implied their strength decreased as time went by? Like 18 was weaker in the Buu saga than when she first appeared etc
not that I recall. Buu just made her look weak because his power level was way higher. Drawing from the wiki, 18 always had a PL of 300 million, while Super Buu was over 1 billion. Considering the fight between 18 and Vegeta in the android arc, where 18 was still 300 million and Vegeta was 200 million and still got stomped, this is quite a gap.
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>>37015167
I meant during the Tournament, I thought they mentioned something about it. Not a big deal either way though.

>>37015161
I wonder why the Cell Saga in particular is going to be so dangerous. I'm guessing Cell is going to be a veritable nightmare then.
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>>37014974

The advantages of 17 and 18 were basically, unlimited energy and no fatigue.

Of course we have no good readings for power levels in the android saga, only for the end of the cell saga.

I would likely peg them at about 150-250mil or so. Within reach of SSJ1, with the proper training, but the power drain that SSJ has makes them weaker.

>>37015054

Well 18, in the main time line never really fough all that much. She only fought SSJ Vegeta, broke his arms and then left. Any other fights were in the movies/OVA or GT.

Other then when she extorted Mr Satan to throw the fight.

>>37015161

Cell Saga has seriously escalating power levels, with little in the way of chances to push ourselves.

All of DBZ really is.

you go from Dragonball, where the top power levels were around 300-400, to Radditz, which is 1200ish, then Nappa, 7000 then to Vegeta who is 18,000/180k in monky form.

Namak is more or less tiered well, until you get to Freeza who is 150million, from the ~180k that Captain Ginyu had.

Cell saga we need to somehow push to like 100-200mil before android saga and somehow push to like 500mil or so in the time chamber. If we even have someone to spar with.
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>>37014550
You don't know how exactly Krillin does it, so trying to recreate it would be guesswork on your part.

>>37015054
I also plan to incorporate some of the movies.

>>37014839
Yeah, but 17 and 18 could curbstomp Super Saiyans rather effortlessly. And, given Kaguya's unique energy, Androids 19 and 20 could be a threat if he gets careless.

>>37014804
Yeah, you have less than two percent of his full power
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>>37015234
Sssshh, power levels are all in a person's head, they don't really mean anything. We just have to take smart actions, dodge lasers and punches, and believe in ourselves!
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>>37015263

Let the power of GUTS! guide us.

Others have special genetics, super special races or hybrids.

Kaguya (guy with a girls name) runs on pure 100% manly GUTS!
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>>37015205
Well, spoiler alert: Kaguya exists, or existed, rather, in the timeline future cell will be coming from. So, Kaguya's Cells and techniques will be part of Cell.
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>>37015310
Then let's go kill Cell before he can be born.
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>>37015327

I think it was stated that cell slipped in from another time line. So he is a second time traveler, who came back cause Trunks killed his 17 and 18.

He was never born in the main timeline.
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>>37015327
You won't be able to do that. You remember where the Cell who served as the villain in his saga came from, right?
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>>37015263
Too bad we don't know the Mafuba Wave. Power doesn't mean shit sealed in a rice cooker.
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>>37015310
I had a feeling that might be the case.
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>>37015343

Yeah, we really fucked unless we train hard, real hard for the cell saga.

Likely after we returned from Namek without the warning, we didn't really push ourselves and only had a power level of like 20-30mil or so when they woke up. Need to be SSJ level, 150mil+ when they wake up to stand a chance.

Dr. Gero will likely end up using our cells to increase the power provided by humans in Cell, so he may be like 25% stronger in this time line.

And he will know some of our techniques. Any of them up to when the androids show up basically.
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>>37015310
Damn and here I was hoping for Cell to have no idea about us, along with Trunks asking who the hell we are, It would have been interesting being a time paradox.
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>>37015234
Well we are going to train with piccolo in the time chamber during the cell saga, considering he goes in himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhZQ1CpQEZI
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This update feelin REAL canon so far. Wish we diverged the timeline more.
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>>36997207
Ha! Horny.
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>>37016466
To be fair that's on the the players. We had a chance to completely change the timeline a couple of times, the most drastic would have been deciding to join Vegeta and kill off the majority of the cast. We'll probably deviate from canon a bit more after Namek. Especially so if no one becomes a Super Saiyan.



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