“Maybe” she says “Who knows? Mystics have followed the Five since time began and some gained great power from it. But it won’t happen straight away, it will take time to change yourself, to *prove* yourself to your God, all I can say is that you can turn away from them at any point, but once they mark you with their first gift, none of the rest of the Five will hear your prayers – they won’t poach see. Shall I tell you about the Five now, or do you already know enough?”

Shall she tell you about them now?

>Y/N

N defaults to fortune + the other guy Y is more exposition, plus a choice.

>>37106497
>N
We might ask alter, but we need to know ourselves first.

>>37106497
Y

>>37106497
>N

>>37106497
>Y

>>37106497
>Y
Doesn't hurt to hear our options.

>>37106497
>N

>>37106497
>Y

No sure I I actually want to pick one yet, if at all. But I love exposition.

>>37106554
I wouldn't really call them options, since all of them are going to have some flavor of unacceptable drawback.

>>37106497
>Y
>>37106529
>>37106536
What exactly is the problem with getting the explanation? It never hurts to know more, and she does worhsip these gods, I see no reason why she wouldn't want to learn more about them.

>>37106569
They're options. Just because you want to play the perfect no flaws character doesn't mean everyone else does.

>>37106569
Possible, but why not at least hear about the drawbacks?
And what might be unacceptable now, might be not so later. Who knows?

>>37106584
Yeah, that's not really it. At all.

If these mental alterations are like the ones in Paladin of Joy, then they aren't really options.

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>>37106597
Here we fucking go again...

>>37106597
I don't know which you are referring to here. If you talk about the books, those actually are acceptable drawbacks. Isla managed them just fine. And we have confirmation that it won't be terrible, when we read the other one.

>>37106614
>When

>>37106581
Because we might not get a chance not to choose after, said a choice was mandatory.

Writing Y

>>37106636
>Because we might not get a chance not to choose after
> all I can say is that you can turn away from them at any point
Would you look at that?

>>37106497

>N
I don't like much idea of spending too much time here and leaving the girls alone, I'd say we should ask the lady for a contact so we can ask her for tutoring at more advantageous time.

Then again, I guess the winged girl will telepathically ping us if they get in trouble.

>>37106646
And lock ourselves out from the others too, just saying we need to know ourselves before we commit. Just like with Ash but with even more at stake. Also being a prick about it isn't endearing.

>>37106663
Not really liking Ash. He's too slow on the take up and has self esteem issues.

>>37106663
>just saying we need to know ourselves before we commit
What makes you think we will need to commit now? The choice to hear more is explicitly about hearing more and then choosing if we take a patron or not.
We don't have to at all, nor do we have a reason to.

>>37106663
>before we commit. Just like with Ash
Hold your horses.
We didn't commit for anything.

>>37106683
>Assuming
Could easily be a choose now or never thing as well.

>>37106699
Exactly. We need to get ourselves firmly us before we do anything with romance or pacts.

>>37106700
>Could easily be a choose now or never thing as well.
No, what gives you that idea? How would that even make any sense with the comment about how we can go at any time and are only commited once we have taken a gift?

>>37106614
I'm fairly certain these are more severe than the books.

>>37106605
>Says the man responsible for most of those arguments

>>37106719
>I'm fairly certain these are more severe than the books.
Absolutely. Which is why I was wondering about what he meant with Paladin of Joy, because I can't think of anything there that was as severe as this seems to be.

>>37106716
Gods as a general rule are fickle, selfish, and proud. I take nothing for granted with them. Just because we can leave one doesn't mean they won't shit on us from great height. Kind of like quiting the only job in town you can do it but then you in the shit anyways, except this town is the planet if not galaxy.

>>37106708
Since clearly we all agree on not doing any pacts today, I fail to see the problem.

>>37106728
Maybe he meant the Angelic Form? I recall some people have been consistently afraid of that, and this might be similar to a version of that which we can't turn off.

>>37106753
Crushing paranoia.

>>37106760
>Maybe he meant the Angelic Form?
The angelic form hasn't actually been bad sofar.
Its pretty mild as mind-warping goes, and we keep doing it anyway.

>>37106753
see>>37106700

>>37106772
She just asked us if she should tell us about the five. There was no mention of any sort of pact making involved in that. We can make our pact whenever. As we have been already told.

>>37106771
We've never remained in it for very long, either.

>>37106844
The durationisn't the problem. If we have any loved ones around to tie us to the mortal realm is.
And even in angelic form there hasn't been a lot of changes of behavior.

>>37106857
It probably isn't, but it's possible that the mental effects become greater over time.

The relative lack of changes is probably because Sireyi behaves very similarly to an angel already. I think I recall her having some aggressive thoughts to those demons we temporarily allied with in Hell, other than that I can't think of anything that really changed.

Anyway, it was just a theory as to what he might've been worried about. We shouldn't assume the pacts bear any similarity to mental alterations from a previous quest.

>>37106857
>>37106926
Oh, maybe he meant the hypothetical mental alterations we might've gotten from imbibing the unfiltered essence? Or not storing the essence in a jar in the first place?

>>37106967
We don't know anything about that one though, so saying "if its like those in PoJ", because we never found out what those would have been like.

“Sure” you say “No harm in finding out more, right?”

“Very well” says Kate “The Five are ancient, primordial gods, as dangerous as a storm or volcano but *not*” she says “evil. Sometimes malicious, often uncaring, but not truly evil. They are about more basic concepts than good or evil. I’m going to tell you about the each of the Five, including...lets call them rumours of what people who followed them have become able to do, in time.”

“Baalzamon, The Heart of Darkness: The lord of shadows, secrets and betrayal. He represents deceit, manipulation and betrayal, secrecy in all things, perhaps the one of the Five closest to being evil. And yet is truth a good thing? Should you always tell the truth, what if it hurts another, what if it hurts you? Secrets you keep and allies you gain through deceit impress Baalazamon. Those who follow Baalazamon are said to be able to perform such feats as: Being immune to attempts to read their mind or discover their emotions, being able to hide from any search and hide others, convince others to follow their advice no matter how absurd, or to talk others into seeing the world the way they see it.”

“The Ichor in the Depths; The mother of the sea, has power over transformation, water and family. A loving, yet sometimes cruel mother, she wants her children to grow up strong, but to never forget their mother. She is a teacher and nurturer. How could such a kind old lady be anything but good? Because bad children are punished, and those who threaten her children torn asunder. Have you cared for a child? Taken them into your home? Fed them? These are the things that please the Ichor in the Depths.
Those who follow The Ichor in the Depths are said to be able to perform such feats as: Turn into water, or a monster of the sea, transform others, convince their children to follow their commands, turn love into hate or vice versa, or turn their blood to poison.”

“The Infinite Mirror: has power over reflection, adaptability, mimicry. Yes, very close to the Mirror am I. The Mirror is both male and female, the Mirror does not pick a path but rather adapts to whatever path they walk, balanced between good and evil, order and chaos, forever seeking the centre of all things. Have you learned a skill that wasn’t easy or natural? Have you changed your approach to a situation as you learned more about it? These are the things that please the Infinite Mirror.
Those who follow The Infinite Mirror are said to be able to perform such feats as: Gain the skills of others nearby, draw forth reflections into the real world, go to other worlds, have others suffer their wounds or create illusions.”

Jagganatha: The unstoppable, has power over physical might and endurance. Ah yes, the champion of power, a very popular for men. A breaker and destroyer, a mindless brute...or is he? Also a builder and crafter, He can move mountains to carve a road, or bring it down on your head. Have you ever taken the direct approach? Ever used force to resolve a situation? These are the things that please Jagganatha.
Those who follow Jagganatha are said to be able to perform such feats as: Having increadible physical strength and endurance – able to break barriers or withstand lethal attacks, terrify their foes, even resist magical attacks or disrupt magic around them.”

“The King of Hell: The ruler of all, banished to Hell by the new gods, now rules over the demons. Surely the King of Hell must be evil? He rules demons. No, he is a leader, a teacher, a warrior, a patron of those who would rule, both benevolent rulers and tyrants. He can lead you to freedom, or to oppression. Have you taken charge? Led others in battle? These are the things that please the King of Hell.
Those who follow The King of Hell are said to be able to perform such feats as: Turning into a demon, force others to follow their orders, inspire the fiercest loyalty in their followers, draw strength from the number of followers they have, or resist the orders of others with ease.”

Kate looks at you “I have some prayer books for each of the Five if you feel ready to choose one, which would you like?”

“Can I take one of each?” you ask “And decide later?”

“Of course you can” says Kate with a smile, taking five slim books and pushing them towards you “You won’t lock yourself into a single path for some time yet anyway, but are you leaning towards one?”

>Baalazamon
>The Ichor
>The Infinite Mirror
>Jagganatha
>The King of Hell
>I’m not ready to chose yet
>Ask questions (what?)

>>37107094
>I’m not ready to choose yet

So basically
The Ebon Dragon
Kimbery
Szoreny
Isidoros
Malfeas
Yup, I think we get out of here.

>>37107094
>I’m not ready to chose yet

>>37107094
>The Ichor

>>37107094
>I’m not ready to chose yet
Damn the first 2 sound very much like us.

>>37107094
>I’m not ready to chose yet

My favorite though is
>The Infinite Mirror

>>37107094
>I’m not ready to chose yet

>>37107122
I can't really see Baalzamon. Maybe Ichor, but that's more not being a sociopath than deliberate alignment.

>>37107122
Ichor maybe. I really like the poison blood option. It's a straight up fuck you to vamps that bite us without permission.

>>37107094
>I’m not ready to chose yet
My favorite is Ichor though, or the Mirror

>>37107128
Second favorite is Ichor.

>>37107145
We've been lying all over the place in order to hide the truth about us and keep our friends safe. Misdirection and secrecy all over the place. Ichor is fairly close for obvious fangy reasons.

>>37107153
Pretty much yeah. Quin tries and end up getting his head melted off.

>>37107094
Ichor, Jagganatha and King of Hell. Won't be ane asy choice for me in the future, but we're postponing this decision for now.

>not ready to choose yet

>>37107184
I wouldn't say all over the place, but we've definitly lied several times thinking it in the best interest of others.

>>37107203
Yeah The first 3 resonate with us, but I think Ichor has a leg up due to our little ankle biter, and other fanged issues.

>>37107169
forever seeking the center

Not sure if we want to cruse with "central"
>>37107203
Right. But that guy is straight up web weaver monster type. We've lied because we're a scared kid who doesn't want no trabble. Not because we're trying to manipulate everyone around us.

>>37107184
We're lying mostly to protect others and ourselves. We don't lie to hurt people, like betrayal and manipulation would seem to imply. That doesn't really feel like Baalzamon's thing to me. The lying, yes, but he seems like more of a dick about it than we are.

I'm kinda worried about what kind of mental alterations Baalzamon might come with as well.

>>37107094

I'd go for Ichor or the King, but for now

>I'm not ready to choose yet

>>37107232
>>37107255
Baalzamon definitly tries to play up a angle of "isn't a lie better than a hurtful truth" not necessarily straight up manipulation for personal gain.
That probably comes with following him though.

Please make me a Fellowship roll 1d20-1

Rolled 5 + 1 (1d20 + 1)

>>37107300

Rolled 7 - 1 (1d20 - 1)

>>37107300

Rolled 9 - 1 (1d20 - 1)

>>37107300

Rolled 17 - 1 (1d20 - 1)

>>37107292
Yeah, but that betrayal domain...

>>37107300

>>37107300
>-1
Fellowship roll that isn't Negotiation?

>>37107322
>>37107325
>>37107327
Yeah, definitely not the King.

>>37107322
Uuuuuh... invalid roll due to improper rolling? Please?

>>37107300
>>37107322
I misstyped because I thought we would get +1.
Should I delete, or do we take the raw numbers?

>>37107355
Probably to detect lies/intent.

I'll take the 3 rolls that used -1. I usually only take other rolls if we don't get enough rolls with the right modifier.

>>37107398
Ah alright. Thanks.

>The Mirror is both male and female
Hell yeah, futa route found!

>>37107398

>Pally - the chaotic good DM
I love you.

>>37107466
You know it isn't that, why must you risk riling up other anons?

“I’m not ready to choose yet” you say, putting the books in your bag “But thank you. Would...would you mind reading my fortune?” you ask hesitantly.

Kate laughs, a warm sound “Of course I’ll read your fortune” she says, taking a deck of cards out and fanning them out for you, as this is your first reading, let’s start with where you came from, please pick three cards and put them face down on the table.”

You do as she asks and she picks up the cards one at a time, looking at them each in turn, her face goes still.

She looks troubled, scared even.

“It seems the cards aren’t cooperating just now” she says, pulling the three cards from the table facedown, without you being able to see them “Was there anything else I can help with?”

Very suspicious, to buy yourself time to think you say “When I walked past earlier a guy came out, his hands seemed to be sparking, can you tell me about him.”

“Ah” says Kate “I shouldn’t really say anything about my other clients, but if you truthfully answer a question for me, I’ll tell you what I can.”

“It depends” you say, folding your arms “what’s the question?”

“My question” says Kate slowly “is this: Who sent you to test my faith, your Highness?”

Wait, your highness, what?

As you pause Kate pushes “Well, will you answer my question honestly?”

Will you?

Y/N

>>37107540
Call it a reference joke.
I was fairly sure most would recognize it as what it was.
Especially because we all know it won't happen.

>>37107554
>Y

What.

>>37107554
>Y
Yes, I have no idea what you are talking about

>>37107558
Yeah, and most people saw rabbit hole as being Alice in Wonderland.

>>37107554
Y

>>37107576
Only one anon actually overthought that one enough to think of anything else.

>>37107554
>Y
Just give her that bewildered I have no fucking clue what you are talking about look.

>>37107554
>Y
>Eagerly get as much knowledge from her as possible

>>37107554
>Y

>>37107554
I think I get it.
Our dad died shortly after our birth, or at least when we were very young, didn't he?
He was probably already a Avatar of the King of Hell at that point, so we are actually Half-Demon.

>>37107554
Y

What?

>>37107637
Or he banged someone not human at all like a fey. Or we're a changeling.

>>37107666
Or.. we're a potato.

Pretty sure we're the Imperiate. When will we get our sweet wings?

>>37107666
You will not deceive me, satan.

>>37107666
I was under the impression the fey and the Old Gods don't get along. So that seems unlikely to me.

“Sure I’ll answer honestly” you say “No one sent me, I have no idea what you’re talking about, Highness, what?”

There’s a long pause, then Kate gives a fake laugh “Of course, how silly of me, thinking you’d be taken in by a poor fortune tellers tricks.” She reaches for a glass of water but spills it, her hands are shaking.

“Well you answered honestly so I have to keep up my side of the bargain, the ugh, the guy, yes, he’s um, he’s a Gifted but he wants to be free of the Fae. Jaze his name is, has electricity powers. He was asking about another Gifted, a friend of his. He um, yes, where was I? His friend the uh Gifting didn’t take properly, turned into a monster and run off into dust town, he wanted to find him, all I could do was tell him what his friend was doing, terrible thing, I couldn’t truly see where he was.”

She blinks at you then adds “I have to be somewhere else now, goodbye.” And then she starts clearing the room, hurriedly throwing things into travel boxes.

What do you do?
>Just leave
>Ask her what she thinks you are
>Make her tell you what she thinks you are
>What about this failed Gifted?
>Ask other question (what?)
>Other action (what?)

>>37107797
>Ask her what she thinks you are

>>37107797
>Ask her what she thinks you are
>Ask other question (Where is this Jaze, if his friend is who I think he is, it need to be dealth with.

>>37107797

>Make her tell you what she thinks you are

>>37107797
>Ask her what she thinks you are
>What about this failed Gifted?

>>37107797

>What do you think I am? I mean you no harm.

>>37107797
>Make her tell you what she thinks you are

>>37107797
>Ask her what she thinks you are
If she wont.
>Make her tell you what she thinks you are
>What about this failed Gifted?

>>37107797
>Ask her what she thinks you are
>Ask other question (Where is this Jaze, if his friend is who I think he is, it need to be dealth with.

Best to start slowly “So this Jaze and his friend” you say “Can you tell me anything more?”

“Only that his friend is killing people in Dust Town” says Kate, backing away from you “Tearing pieces of their flesh out, he’s hungry, he’ll kill again in the next few days.”

Yeah, sounds like the Gouger alright.

“And Jaze is hunting him” she says “To try to help him if he can, or kill him if he can’t, I expect he’ll start hunting in Dust Town, that’s where he said he was going – to find him.”

“What do you think I am?” you ask her softly “You called me Highness, what did you mean by that?”

“I didn’t mean anything!” she insists “Just a joke, I’ve answered your questions, please go, now!” She’s pale and her voice almost a shriek. Asking nicely isn’t working.

What do you do?

>Ok, I’m going
>Demand she tells you (intimidate)
>Other (what?)

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>>37108014
>Demand she tells you (intimidate)

>>37108014

>Demand she tells you (intimidate)
Let's not fuck around. Who knows how long it will take to get this answer if she doesn't give it to us?

>>37108014
>Other (I mean you no harm, My father died when I was very young, the only thing I know about myself is that I might not be fully human, and even then the sensors were underpowered, old and malfunctioning. Please through a young woman a bone.

>>37108014
>>Demand she tells you (intimidate)

>>37108014
>I mean you no harm, My father died when I was very young, the only thing I know about myself is that I might not be fully human, and even then the sensors were underpowered, old and malfunctioning. Please.

>>37108014
>Demand she tells you (intimidate)
Bitch, tell me everything

>>37108014
>I'm just a orphan girl that has been left with nothing but her religion yb her parents. I have honestly no idea what you are talking about, and would very much like to know. Name a price, if you need.

>>37108014
>>37108069
>>37108080
>>37108087

Those please, our intimidate sucks anyway.

>>37108014
>Demand she tells you (intimidate)

We should have brought the loli vampire for this shit. We need to buy the mind reading powers soon now.

>>37108014
>>37108080
Seconding this


>those indimidate votes
>lets rely on our -1 fellowship rolls again, what could go wrong?

>>37108105
We really don't. They're pretty low priority.

>>37108014
Changing>>37108057 to
>>37108069
>>37108087

>>37108014
>Other (I mean you no harm, My father died when I was very young, the only thing I know about myself is that I might not be fully human, and even then the sensors were underpowered, old and malfunctioning. Please through a young woman a bone.

>>37108124
Better than relying on those write-ins that will get us nowhere.

>>37108014

>It's clear you did mean something. Please tell me. Should I be worried that I get a blade in the dark coming for me after I leave?

>>37108160
Pally tends to reward decent write-ins, and those are okay.

I don't know why you think relying on getting 2 twenties, and that's probably what we'd need to succeed, is a better plan.

>>37108160
They get us further than intimidate.
Unless you actually plan to threaten to kill her, if we can't convince her this isn't a test, that the end of it.

ok, asking nicely, writing

>>37108199
In case its not obvious, if asking nicely fails then we ask not so nicely.

>>37108184
>>37108186
You sure are confident. But if you are wrong, I will have to ask you two to not do write-ins agian.

Oh and, please roll 1d20+1

Rolled 18 + 1 (1d20 + 1)

>>37108224
No, thats not it at all. I have no problem letting her go. Intimidating wil get us nothing but enemies.

>>37108231
And I will ignore you.

>>37108239

Rolled 11 + 1 (1d20 + 1)

>>37108239

Rolling for orphan's niceness.

>>37108014
>Demand she tells you (intimidate)

Rolled 9 + 1 (1d20 + 1)

>>37108239

Rolled 16 + 1 (1d20 + 1)

>>37108239
>>37108231
Since you didn't make one, you don't get to ask shit.

Rolled 7 + 1 (1d20 + 1)

>>37108239

>>37108224
It's not obvious. I have no intent of voting for that if this fails.

>>37108224
Not interested.

>>37108224
No, if that fails then we should leave. There are other sources of information - if all else fails, we can track her, perhaps with help of lirael - or one of the wired bullets hidden among her stuff.

>>37108304
Or.. we could just ask her to read the womans mind?
Not that guy.

>>37108276
using the default options given is better than making something that will shit thigns up, so yes, I get to ask shit.

But the rolls are good this time, so whatever.

“Please” you beg her “my father died when I was very young, I never met him and my family refused to talk about him. The only hint I have is a genescan by a faulty machine, if you know anything, please tell me. I’ve got nothing left of him but my faith” And my locket, you think “I can pay you.”

For a brief moment Kate looks like she’s going to say something, then she turns away “I can’t” she says “It’s better if you never know, it’s...it’s better for the world if you never know, just, I...just say goodbye to those you love and enjoy the rest of your time in this world” you hear her whisper “short though it will be.” Louder she asks “just, go, now, or I call the guards.”

It seems diplomacy isn’t getting you anywhere. What do you do?

>Leave
>Keep asking for answers
>Ask Lirael to read her mind
>Ok, no more Ms Nice, get angry
>Other (what?)

>>37108324
If she is comfortable with that.
This women is a devotee of an eldritch god, not sure if her mind is a healthy place to be in.

>>37108360
>Ask Lirael to read her mind
>>37108333
>instead I choose a option that will guarantee to shit thing up even if it succeeds
Brilliant.

>>37108360
>Ask Lirael to read her mind

>>37108360
>Ask Lirael to read her mind

>>37108360
>Ask Lirael to read her mind

>>37108360
>Ask Lirael to read her mind
Failing that
>Ok, no more Ms Nice, get angry

>>37108324
That did occur to me, but if she's familiar with the technique she may have countermeasures against it. I'm not sure I want to expose the girl to possible counterattack.

>>37108360
>Leave

>>37108360
>Ask Lirael to read her mind
Only if she is comfortable with that, her mind might be unhealthy.

>>37108399
If she hurts the girl we port her to the desert and go all mafia on her.

>>37108360
>Ask Lirael to read her mind

>>37108360
>Leave

>>37108360
>Ok, no more Ms Nice, get angry
>>37108378
>Voted to not get an answer at all
Brilliant. Really, I commend you on choosing a write-in that does nothing.

Now, tell me, how would intimidation have made thigns worse, short of a bad roll.

>>37108444
Not him. She uses whatever powers she's got to open our old wounds. Or she calls the guards.

>>37108444
Auto calling the guards, maybe have her hit us with a whammy? Intimidate rolls would have been even worse than what we did, considering we got a 19 which was the max we could have done without a crit on intimidate.

>>37108477
Not to mention the hidden bonuses Pally gives for good write-ins.

>>37108444
>Now, tell me, how would intimidation have made thigns worse, short of a bad roll.
By making her uncooperative forever after?
By her screaming for help possibly from people she knows on this black market full of armed dangerous people, some of which probably also following our faith?
By us not getting an answer at all because she isn't intimidated enough?
I could go on, but I won't waste my time like that.

>>37108444

She fights us and hurts us or forces us to kill her. In best outcome she's dead and we have to deal with the fallout, or alternately she makes a getaway and we're back to square one.
In both cases we lose option to ask her about anything further down the road.
Worst case we get killed or arrested by whatever passes for security, and our friends as well.

Murderhobo please stop.

>>37108444
>Using our weakest conversation option would have given us better results
Sure enough.

Lirael it is, writing.

May god have mercy on your soul

>>37108507
Then they either weren't good, were the wrong approach, or we're just not meant to learn the full truth here.

>>37108538
That spoiler, well crap.

>>37108551
>we're just not meant to learn the full truth here
>>37108538
Looks like it.

>>37108507
You need a good write-in for that, Anon.
>>37108468
>>37108477
>>37108533
>>37108516
Results of bad rolls and just plain paranoia.

Not to mention she already doesn't want anythign to do with Shee already.

>>37108567
Vote smarter next time.

>>37108588
What a condescending prick.

>>37108588
>Results of bad rolls and just plain paranoia.
>Being this delusional
Why would a successfull intimidate means she won't call the guards?
Assuming we could even meet the DC for that in theory.

>>37108588
Vaelys, shut up.

>>37108588
Hint: Anything below a pair of twenties would've been a bad roll with the Intimidate option.

>>37108588
>Vote smarter next time.
If there was no way to find out, it didn't matter what we voted, only how dig we dug ourselve sinto shit before realising it.

>>37108597
He's condescending but he's right on target.

>>37108607
She'd rather live than risk death whilte trying to cal the gods. it's jsut like inr eal life. If someone points a gun at you, you don't call the guards while the robber has a gun aimed at you.

In Shee's case, though, she can just teleport away safely in the duster area.

>>37108620
>citation needed

>>37108607

well, in favour of low dc speaks how jittery the gypsy lady became when she read our cards.

>>37108638
>She'd rather live than risk death whilte trying to cal the gods.
>Religious fanatics always act reasonable and in the interest of their survival
Just stop already.

>>37108637
>Implying you're a different person

>>37108655
Or it speaks in favor of high DC depending on what it is she is scared of, and the recent update shows its clearly not us.

>>37108653
we rolled a 18+1 meaning a 19
Intimidate is 1d20-1mmeaning 19 on a 20 meaning we'd need 2 20s to crit

>>37108620
>>37108607
>our roll has a -1 to it. Clearly the DC must be 45.

>>37108661
There was no sign of fanatism in there. Stop making shit up.

“Ok” you say, holding up your hands in a show of peace “I’m going, I’m going...”

Once outside you say to Rainya “I think Lirael would like this fortune teller, we’ll just be a moment.” You lead Lirael back inside, her hand in yours, where Kate is still throwing things into boxes, she doesn’t seem to notice you’ve come back “Lirael” you whisper to your friend “She knows a secret about me, can you tell me what it is?”

Lirael stares at the back of Kate’s head in concentration, and then she jerks back and looks at you, her eyes go wide and her face pale, and then she starts to scream, pulling her hand out of yours and backing away, screaming and screaming and screaming....

Kate spins around, seeing you and a screaming young girl and then bolts out of the tent, yelling for the guards.

Rainya comes running in, she looks around in confusion, “What’s going on?” she asks.

“I really don’t know!” you yell at her, over the sound of Liraels screams, every time you try to get close to Lirael she swats at you and screams louder, you know how hard she can hit so you’re keeping your distance.

“Well shut her up!” yells back Rainya “The guards will be coming?”

“How?” you say

“She’s just a kid” says Rainya, starting towards Lirael “Just grab her.”

What do you do?

>Grab Lirael
>Let Rainya grab her
>Try to talk Lirael down
>Teleport out (with whom? Where?)
>Just wait, you can explain this to the guards, you hope
>Other (what?)

>>37108704
>There was no sign of fanatism in there.
The fact that she refuses to speak about this matter of religion no matter what and is scared for her life didn't tip you of?
Its pretty obvious a religious thing.

And wut? You think the DC is dependant on our ability to meet it?

>>37108729
>Let Rainya grab her
If the guards come tell them she was pitching a fit because she wanted a new toy ship after you had already gotten her 5.

>>37108729
>Let Rainya grab her
>Run put of sight and teleport to the facility

>>37108729
>Teleport out (with whom? Where?)
The house.

>>37108729
>Grab Lirael
>Teleport out (with Lirael. TrainingFacility.)

We need to have a talk with her.

>>37108729
>Let Rainya grab her

What is going on?

>>37108729
>>37108756
This combined with
>>37108759
Let Rainya grab her, walk away and if someone asks, just a spoiled kid.

>>37108782
Lirael knows what the lady knows about us and it fucking terrifies her.

We are clearly something horrifying.

>>37108782
She saw what Shee really is. It's probably the opposite of the fey. Where you see a fey as beautiful and attractive the real look of whatever shee is is hideous.

>>37108697
>The DC for Intimidate is definetly the same as the DC for Persuade! They are exactly the same thing, after all!
>>37108732
Anon, please. That's what the other anons were saying, I just translated it into something more direct.

Saying that we needed two 20s to pass on a skill check we had a -1 to is retarded. Making DCs up is fucking stupid, just because the skill check for something else failed.

>>37108782
Looks like Lirael didn't like what she saw about us.
Which makes, pretty much no sense whatsoever, since she had already been in our head and knows what we are like. But eh.

>>37108805
I just hope we can find out what it is soon. It's going to drive me nuts not knowing.

>>37108815
We didn't know what we are. So she saw what we see.

>>37108729
>>37108794
This
We need to have a long long talk with Lirael it seems.

>>37108832
No, my point was, she already knows what kind of person we are.
Regardless of what that women thinks we are.

>>37108794
Hopefully she's not so scared that she'll hulk out to get away.

>>37108825
Heh. Go read that knighthood quest. You'll go nuts.

>>37108808
They were both fel rolls anon and she clearly wanted nothing to do with us. Only thing an intimidate would do would cause instant agro, stop being a self righteous condescending jerk.

>>37108860
Thats the idea behind letting Rainya grab her, instead of us trying to.

>>37108865
I do and it's maddening. I soo hope this doesn't go that direction.

>>37108855
She's still a kid and now she sees some horrifying monster wearing the face of Shee.

We don't know what it is so imagine seeing your mother.. then you realize it's just a her face flayed off and attached to the front of a beast or some other horrific creation.

>>37108869
How the fuck do you know that? How do you know she wouldn't have just capitulated out of fear. You have no way of knowing.

Rainya grabs then you teleport, ok, writing.

>>37108883
Dragon bro's unite.

>>37108869
Intimidate and Diplomacy are both Charisma rolls, and yet they are not the same thing. Why would the DC for one be the same for the other? Really please, explain to me how your logic works.

>>37108889
And you have no way either, stop crying for retcons and no creativity, if you think you can do better right in, or vote. Of course being a jerk about it will more than likely make you lose.

>>37108887
I'm not sure that is how it works. If she reads her mind, all she can find out is what that women thinks Shee is. It doesn't change her perception.

>>37108935
>stop crying for retcons
Lol what. Where did ANYOEN ask for a retcon in here? We're just pointing out your mistakes, not asking for retcons, oh my god, stop being an autist.

>>37108889
How do you know intimidate would have done anything at all? Has it not become abundantly clear by now that Pally didn't intend to reveal that info so easily to us?

>>37108940
It could have been:

A: Hoodoo. That woman follows the mirror she can create illusions.

B: Alternate worlds balh blah blah.
She may have seen what we might become/what that womans sees us as and it's really that fucking scary.

>>37108935
Not the guy you were talking to buddy. I'm just calling you out for saying what would have happened when you have no ability to determine that.

>>37108972
That seems most plausible to me, actually.

>>37108964
>mistake
Prove it. Stop fucking implying it and prove it was a mistake. Show me the slightest bit of evidence it was actually an incorrect or inferior course of action.

>>37108993
Have you not read the update? The write-in did nothing it was supposed to do. It, for all purposes, failed, even with a pretty good roll.

>>37109019
Okay, it failed.

You haven't proved that it was a worse course of action or anything that I asked.

>>37109019
I'm getting that we "should" have been spooked and gone about our day. Instead we went, nah fuck that tell us what you know lady.

>>37109019
No, it succeeded pretty well in confirming we won't get this information out of her. And it did so, without closing any other options or damaging our position.

You stay back, hopefully Rainya can you dunno, hug Lirael into calmness or something. Rainya approaches Lirael “Are you ok sweetie, its ok, nothing to be scared off see? It’s just you and me” Rainya gently puts her hand on Liraels shoulder “and your cousin Shee”.

Liraels frantic slap throws Rainya up into the air, she comes down on the fortune tellers table hard, smashing it to pieces, lying there unmoving. Oh no is she...

Rainya twitches slightly and then lies there groaning, you sigh in relief, and least she’s not- wait, Lirael has stopped screaming.

Your gaze darts to Lirael, she’s standing there shaking, tears flowing from her eyes “Shee” says Lirael “I’m sorry, I’m so sorry, but I have to do this, I have to stop you being bad.”

She takes a deep breath and her wings rip free of their bindings “Shee Hyul” she says “face judgement for the crimes” she gulps “you will one day commit.” She raises her wings and...

...nothing happens.

Lirael looks confused for a moment and then a look of realisation dawns “I need more” she says “I’m too hungry to call the Angel!” She looks around, her gaze falling on the groaning Rainya, she starts to walk towards Rainya saying “Rainya I’m sorry, I’m really sorry...”

Outside you can hear a lot of yelling, is that the guards on their way?

What do you do?

>Flee (alone)
>Grab Lirael
>Talk Lirael down
>Teleport (where? With whom?)
>Other (what?)

>>37109076
>Talk Lirael down
>You can feed from me and then judge me in the facility. Please dont be bad Lirael.
>If she doesn't react, grab and teleport

>>37109076
>Grab Lirael
Grab RAinya
Teleport to the facility.

>>37109076
>Grab Lirael
>Grab Rainya
>Teleport to the facility.

>>37109076
>Teleport, facility with Lirael

>>37109076

Grab them both and teleport out. Out! Anywhere but here.

>>37109076
>Grab Lirael
>Teleport to the facility.

>>37109112
>>37109127
>>37109138
If we grab Rainya, she is just going to keep trying to feed from her.

>>37109045
...that's a pretty shitty objective, Anon. Like, really, what. It was already obvious she doesn't want to tell Shee anything. The woman is running away to never meet Shee again, there are no other options or positions.

>>37109076
>Grab Rainya
>teleport away to the facility/home.

>>37109076
>Grab Lirael
>Teleport to the facility.

>>37109076
>Grab Lirael
>Teleport to the facility

We caused this, let's try to limit the damage to only ourselves.

>>37109157

Well we can't just leave her there in this mess.

Ok, going to the facility w/Lirael seems to be a lock, only confusion seems to be over taking Rainya with.

Take Rainya with?

Y/N

>>37109182
>that's a pretty shitty objective, Anon.
No. Relying on good rolls to not fuck everything up is a stupid plan.
The one we went with would have left us in no worse position even with a bad roll. While a bad intimidate roll would have gotten us all the guards on our ass.

>>37109208
>N

>>37109208

Y

>>37109208
>y
>>37109197
Got a point, I guess we just need to tell her to run once we arrive.

>>37109208
Y

>>37109208
>n she can get medical attention where she is.

>>37109208
>N

>>37109208
N

I think we might have just thrown this quest right off the rails.

>>37109208
N

>>37109240
Nah, this was Pallys plan.
He could have easily have the lady have something to avoid having her mind properly read. Or not given us the chance to immediatly scan her mind.

>>37109076
>Grab Lirael
>Teleport to the facility.

No Rainya huh, ok....

>>37109208
N

>>37109269
Pally gives a lot of freedom to the players. Even when they are doing the stupid thing.

>>37109299
Ah I fucking knew this was a bad idea.
I hope she doesn't die from this.

Oh and I forgot, Willpower roll please 1d20+4

>>37109319
My thinking is that these guards are guarding a black market dealership. They should just be worried about making sure shes not robbing anyone or shit like that.

>>37109322

Rolled 11 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>37109312
Eh, it wasn't really "the stupid thing". I mean, yes, we saw the posibility coming her mind would be bad, but this freakout is kinda outside of our ability to predict, and it was a perfectly sensible plan otherwise.

>>37109322

Rolled 18 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>37109322

Rolled 15 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>37109322

>>37109328
No, I mean from the injury. She could easily have a broken spine or something.
Luckily Dev and the rest of the crew is around to take care of her.

Rolled 8 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>37109322

>>37109319

Well if she survives she will hate our guts for rest of the quest.

>>37109372
I would hope not.
As long as she comes out of this uninjured, its probably better than having brought her with us, in terms of her personal safety anyway.
I would think we can still salvage this, if we can come clean with her afterwards.

Although I find it kinda unneccessary to have Lirael throw her around like that, it makes no real sense in context of the situation that she would attack Raynia if she is afraid of something Shee will become. That was pretty much just done to fuck the situation up.

>>37109425
You go into a fear induced frenzy and see how rational you act.

>>37109425
I'm not seeing how we can really salvage this.

>>37109425
>Although I find it kinda unneccessary to have Lirael throw her around like that, it makes no real sense in context of the situation that she would attack Raynia if she is afraid of something Shee will become. That was pretty much just done to fuck the situation up.

Kid. Unaware of their own strength. Totally terrified. Makes perfect sense. She's scared shitless not thinking rationally like a calm and collected adult.

>>37109437
>>37109451
She threw her into the air with a glancing blow. Yeah, no, she isn't that strong even in frenzy.
And she wasn't even in a frenzy, because she snapped out of it bascially instantly, which she couldn't do in a frenzy, as we had seen when we fought her.

As Lirael bends down to grab Rainya you rush forward and touch Lirael, focusing hard. You’re at the facility, in one of the abandoned rooms there. You’re not at the weapons bazaar you’re at the facility, you focus as hard as you ever have before and the world shifts around you.

The two of you appear in one of the training facilities rooms, Rainya stays behind; you hope she’s going to be ok.

Lirael sway momentarily on her feet, and then turns to you “No!” she yells, sounding more indignant than anything, and maybe a little calmer “Shee!” she says “Now I’ll have to feed on you, and I know you don’t want me too!” She advances, you back up, keeping your distance.

“Tell me why!” you say “What am I going to do?”

“You’re going to be really *bad* when you’re older!” she says, and then stops suddenly

“Isn’t there any other way to fix this?” you ask, you’re really not keen on fighting Lirael again, once was enough.

Lirael thinks and then says “I need to stop you being bad, or” she looks at you consideringly “Stop you getting older.” Uh oh, is she going to kill you?

Lirael points a finger at you “Shee” she says “You either let me feed and judge you, or you become my Dhampir.”

“What’s the third option?” you snark at her “We do both?”

Lirael just advances “I’m going to need blood if I make you one” she says, trembling a little, but looking determined “So either way, I’m sorry Shee, you’re getting bit.”

What do you do?

>Ask her to feed and judge you
>Allow her to make you into a Dhampir
>Teleport away
>Other (what?)

It's late, next update will be the last one.

>>37109477
>Other (what?)
WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE SO SCARED OF WHAT I'M GOING TO BECOME?!

>>37109441
As of now, its a scared child that freaked out. Really the vampire part is the only part that makes this bad towards Raynia. As long as we can get her to get over that, we can salvage it.

>>37109477
>Ask her to feed and judge you
Becoming a dhampir would REALLY make it unsalvagable.

>>37109477
Seconding >>37109505

>>37109477
>Other (what?)
"Sit the fuck down"
"And explain what you saw."
"I'm not adverse to doing either of those, I'd like to know why before I go through any of them though."

>>37109477
>Allow her to make you into a Dhampir
better than being judged.

>>37109477
>Ask her to feed and judge you
With a helping of
>>37109505

>>37109537
>>37109505
>>37109477
This

>>37109477
Alright, before we make the choice can we do this?

>>37109505
>>37109537

>>37109477
>Ask her to feed and judge you
Drip feed

and this>>37109505

>>37109477
>We do it likes this. You say I'm going to be bad in the future, not now. Read my mind, I will teleport away, to make sure Rainya is okay. Then I come back, and we talk about what you saw. And THEN we decide what to do.

>>37109477
>Teleport away
No, fuck that noise.

Shee is not goign to become evil. And fuck Lirael if she thinks she can just judge Shee for something she never did, and fuck becoming a Damphir just because she's afraid of what we won't let happen.

>>37109575
>>37109537
>>37109505
These

>>37109477
>>37109505
>>37109537
>>37109575
What they said.

>>37109477
This shit first.
>>37109575
>>37109537
>>37109505

>>37109477
>Allow her to make you into a Dhampir

>>37109477
>Allow her to make you into a Dhampir

>>37109477
>Other

"Please Lirael, tell me what's wrong with me?! I'm scared too!" *sobbing*

>>37109477
Don't we have a communication device to contact Rainya with?
I think convincing Lirael we come back might be a bit harder, we can just do >>37109575
but instead just call her to see if she is okay or needs help.

>>37109638
That would be okay too.
I realise asking for checking on Rainya is slightly backpeddling on a previous vote, which I'm loath to do, but call it stalling for time so Lirael gets her shit together.

>>37109477
>>37109523
Changing to
>>37109537
>>37109575

>Ask her to feed and judge you

Write-ins to talk her down, ok.

Please roll 2d20

First is Fellowship, second is for something else.

Rolled 2, 3 = 5 (2d20)

>>37109753

Rolled 5, 4 = 9 (2d20)

>>37109753
Oh boy, could it be our first addiction roll?

Rolled 17, 4 = 21 (2d20)

>>37109753

Rolled 11, 15 = 26 (2d20)

>>37109753

Rolled 5, 1 = 6 (2d20)

>>37109753

>>37109761
>>37109776
>>37109778
O-okay. So, Fellowship might have worked.
Whatever the other thing was, we fucked it up.

>>37109761
>>37109776
>>37109778
Er that's not good.

Well we're fucked. Dammit.

>>37109816
Isn't being judged like being lobotomized?

This thread has been highly amusing.

>>37109912
We don't really have a lot of information on what exactly it entails.

>>37109912
No. Not at all.

>>37109477

what these guys said.
>>37109505
>>37109537

Lirael just knows what the fortune teller *believed*. The future hasn't been written yet.

>>37109912
Sort of? You literally cannot do bad/questionable things anymore.

>>37109916
I agree

"Sit down!" you order Lirael "And explain what you saw, I might let you do either of those but I'd like to know why before I go through any of them."

Lirael just shakes her head and advances, you retreat, until your back hits a wall.

You keep trying “We do it likes this: You say I'm going to be bad in the future, not now. Read my mind, I will go make sure Rainya is okay. Then I come back, and we talk about what you saw. And THEN we decide what to do.”

Lirael appears to consider it for a moment “No” she says “You never want me reading your mind, you must be trying to trick me, you barely feed me - maybe I can’t trust you.”

“Wait Lirael-” you start to say.

Lirael pounces, slamming you back against the wall, you both end up in a tangle on the floor, Lirael pinning your arms to your sides, her mouth open wide, her fangs visible as her face lowers to your neck.

---

Thread ends here. Next thread is on Saturday.

You have gained 4XP

>>37109928
You're joking right? It eliminates free will with a constant overpowering fear of hell and damnation.

>>37109912
As far as we know its exactly like redeeming touch. It shows us all the bad things we have done in our life. How bad it is depends on how bad we have been.


>>37109933
Thats not true either. We just get flashbacks of the judgement if we do.

>>37109954
Wait a second.
Pally, what the fuck? She's decided to JUDGE us before reading our mind?

That's bullshit as fuck right there

>>37109955
Thats not what being lobotomized is.
We still have free will, we get punished for doing "bad" things. Whatever that entails.

>>37109955
>constant overpowering fear of hell and damnation.
Yeah, but one of our gods is the King of hell, so we'd just be going to serve there anyways at death.

>>37109987
She is acting pretty much completly out of character the entire time if you haven't noticed, what she saw in the fortune tellers head, pretty obviously mind-fucked her hard.

>>37109959
>>37109992

That's fucking awful. That would mean that anything considered "Bad" we would have to make will rolls. It would gimp the character and I'd say that's a great fucking affect on free will.

>>37109987
>The NPCs must comform to the Players' will at all times and submit to their wishes and desires.

HEY GUYS
HEY GUYS
Should have picked up some fucking social skills at chargen you fucking retards

>>37110026
Or, you know. Intimidate.

>>37110026
Anon.
Anon.
Hey, anon.
A +2 wouldn't have made a difference with a roll of 4.

>>37110026
We could have just killed the kid.

>>37110023
Just seems weird to me that her first reaction is "JUDGEMENT AS FUCK" rather than "Maybe I should read her mind and confirm what's happening"

>>37110021
Not really, its not something that actually affects us. We don't need willpower rolls to do "bad" things, we just get a flashback to hell for it.

>>37110026
Do you seriously not realise that our social rolls were completly meaningless this entire time?
Literally the only thing we could have done any better was to not let Lirael read her mind.

>>37110047
I'd rather be judged, even if it gimps the character.

>>37110047
BUT MUH LOLI VAMPIRE ANGEL!

>>37110040
>A +2 wouldn't have made a difference with a roll of 4.
We rolled 17 for fellowship here. See:>>37109778

Not to mention, the 17 >>37107330 as well

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>>37109954
>that fucking cliffhanger

>>37110047
>we should have just murdered a child

>>37110051
That second roll is what made that happen though, we have yet to see what it actually was.

>>37110058
>Do you seriously not realise that our social rolls were completly meaningless this entire time?
Because we're shit at social, obviously.

>>37110074
It doesn't occur to you that we get fanged because of the second roll we fucked up?

>>37110100
No, because these weren't situations we could resolve by using social skills.

>>37110063
Yeah well I sure as fuck wouldn't. Having a flashback of hell every time we take a shot or steal or take down a mark or tell a lie... Yeah Fan fucking tastic.

Just to confirm, the second roll was to dodge. Sorry for not making that clear in the post.

>>37109954
Fuck Pally, that cliffhanger.
Good Night.

>>37110118
>No, because these weren't situations we could resolve by using social skills.
I bet if we were socially oriented it'd be perfectly fine.

>>37110136
On that note, could you shed some light on the DCs for Social this time around?

>>37110152
>I bet if we were socially oriented it'd be perfectly fine.
You're betting wrong.

>>37110136
So we didn't get any bonuses for the write-ins then? Or our Negotiator perk, and things like that?

>>37110152
If we were socially oriented we'd have been mauled by the tike when she was ferral. Or nipped by Quin last night.

See I can make shit up too.

>>37110152
When everyone around you starts behaving completly insane and irrational because you are some kind of absurd horror monster, social skills won't help you.

>>37110152
Either you're wrong and look like an asshole, or you're right and look like someone acting superior because of things that would've been better purchases in hindsight.

Either way, you're an idiot.

>>37110152
Some of them you were just short of, some you were way out on.

>>37110180
You did, but not enough

>>37110180
SO WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!
Great write in. Really, moved to tears 10/10.

>>37110136
Can't wait to see the result
Hoping not a Dhampirs

>>37110201
OH
LOOK AT THAT
THANKS FOR CONFIRMING IF WE WERE AT ALL COMPETENT IN SOCIAL WE LIKELY WOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION

>>37110207
I'm hoping she judges us and it does nothing, since we haven't actually done anything.

>>37110207
Can't wait to see the result.
Hoping not Judged

>>37110201
So would intimidate have been a better option?