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You hold up a hand, cutting him off. “Hold your applause, Master. We're not finished yet. As I said, that was finalization. When you fall deep into a trance you'll find yourself in that strange expanse of golden threads. In front of you will be the runes you're trying to finalize, usually spinning and twisting together. In my experience, they're always blue in color.”

“Anyway, instinct should more or less take over around this point. You'll need to seize the runes and properly shape them, then find the section of the net which represents whatever it is you're trying to enchant on a metaphysical level. You'll rip out the threads that correspond to the object, then replace them with the shaped thread you made from the runes.”

“Once an enchantment is finalized, you have one more optional step you can take, if you so choose. My soul is still weakened, as we've already discussed, likely due to overexposure to the void. That's why I need you to perform this step for me. The casting of Permanency, to make the enchantment self-sustaining.”

“You can enchant an object without making the enchantment permanent, and in fact if you intend to do extensive experiments using enchanting I would strongly urge you do so with non-permanent enchantments, but for practical applications there really isn't any reason to make a non-permanent enchantment. I mean, I suppose if you were using it for trivial things like making a campfire or some such it would be preferable to make it a non-permanent enchantment but you shouldn't be using an ancient lost art for trivial things.”

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You pause briefly to gather your thoughts before launching into your instructions. “Right, okay. So you're familiar with the soul and how to manipulate it to some extent, you've meditated upon reality. Now, to create a permanent spell or enchantment you must tear off a piece of your soul and imbue it into the object or spell. In a very real way you're changing what was originally simply a confluence of vys filtered by the will of a vatis into an entity all its own. A living creature with its own will to some degree. Of course, these objects aren't sentient by any stretch of the imagination, but my point is that you shouldn't perform this ritual lightly.”

Your warning given, you move on to the actual practical instruction. “You'll need to meditate upon the enchanted object, and more importantly upon the runes you've now both engraved and activated. I've done those parts for you, so you may find this a bit more difficult than it otherwise would be. Anyway, once you're completely focused upon the runes, you must rip off a piece of your soul and force it into the runes. It's not a pleasant experience, and afterwards you'll feel a bit dead inside. Don't worry, the soul regenerates. You'll simply need to take a nap.”

You hand him the pipe, and he takes it with no small amount of reverence. “I think I get the gist of it. I imagine I can figure the rest out as I go along.”

You nod, worry twisting a knot into your gut. “Well... give it a go then, Master. I wish you luck.”

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He closes his eyes, and you feel the connection you share sever as his mind recedes into itself. Several minutes pass, and then there is a massive burst of vys. Powerful enough that you can physically see the magic roiling off of his body like heat from the desert in the midday sun, the air around him shifting between red, blue, and green as energy suffuses it. You feel as if just being this close to him your vys reserves are being replenished.
>Vys Pool: (34/41)

Then his eyes open, and he looks dimly down at the pipe on the floor in front of him. He is not excited, he doesn't even smile as he taps it against the stone floor and watches the bowl ignite with a warm glow. He simply nods. “It has worked, then. I appreciate your help Mik. I see what you meant, the spell carries with it a mental and emotional drain. I nearly lost my grasp on the piece of my soul I tore free. Fortunately I have the necessary reserves to make up for such errors. If there's nothing else you needed, I believe I will take that nap you suggested.”

>There's nothing else, tell him to get some rest and you'll see him in a few days time. Head back to your estate to help out with repairs.
>As above, but instead of helping out with repairs you should take the day to read and meditate.
>Head to the Market and do some shopping, you've some things you need to pick up.
>Search the Vatis District for a shop selling magical armor, weapons, and trinkets. You want to get some new equipment.
>Make for the Noble's District and your parent's home, to invite your family to the party in a few day's time.
>Ask your master about that method he used in the void to shoot a bolt of lightning from his hand.
>Write-in

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Posting this for some kind Anon who's searching through the archives.

>>37664863
Forgot muh picture.

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>>37664863
>>Write-in
So I had an idea for a magic item: first we need the shockwave sword (the one that can store vys for us) and cast leech on it in a way that the spell gather the surrounding vys and direct it to the sword. If it behave as wanted, we then cast permancy on the leech spell.

That give us a sword that constantly gather vys that we can draw from, wich is rougthly equivalent to battle meditation (with the added bonus of monstruous shockwave at the ready).

few notes:

-I have no idea what effect the leeching sword would have if put in the cloak, so better ask ricky before.
-I have no idea what is the maximum capacity of the sword, and what happen when reached (probably nothing but better check before hand).
-manipulate could help us to modify the behavior of the sword before permancy is casted and possibly after. Slow is also possible to help reduce the leeching speed if it's too important (but we would need to learn it). once permancy is casted, perhaps poison can temporally desactivate the spell, as it eat vys away.
-other vatis migth consider it quite rude.
-I think that how (or at least something very similar) fulvia generator work.
-if we knew the vys rune, it should be possible to the same with enchanting.
-remember, every time permanency is cast, we should meditate to regain the lost part of our soul

>>37664863
>Search the Vatis District for a shop selling magical armor, weapons, and trinkets. You want to get some new equipment.

Can we please get Profectus a shield. I mean seriously, he told us back at the temple, and maybe he'll be less useless with a shield.

>>37664863
>There's nothing else, tell him to get some rest and you'll see him in a few days time.
>Ask your master about that method he used in the void to shoot a bolt of lightning from his hand.
>Search the Vatis District for a shop selling magical armor, weapons, and trinkets. You want to get some new equipment.
Emphasis on traveling equipment that amounts to what we can wear under our armor that isn't expensive black silk silver trimmed robes.

>>37664863
I'm interested in the lightning thing he did, but in his current state he should rest first.

>>37664979
Shield for Prof is okay

>>37664946
Why the sword? We'd be better off doing it to a gem, also having it leech 24/7 would cause problems draining vys from it, it also might kill us in our sleep by draining us to death
LOTS O PROBLEMS

>>37664946
I think channeling leech into a sword only lets it leech from people you attack.
To make it passively draw in vys, we'd probably need to enchant it using sustain in some way.

>>37664979
I believe he specified a shield "as big as he was" so that'd be a tower shield, right?

Soma, can Profectus grip things with his stone arm? Because if that's gonna be his off hand we'd need to find/make the shield fire resistant.

>>37664863
>Search the Vatis District for a shop selling magical armor, weapons, and trinkets. You want to get some new equipment.

Backing getting Prof a damn shield. Though he has his own money and should be able to do it himself.

>>37664946
Nice idea but for leach to affect vys it needs the vys rune

>>37665024
He can indeed grasp things with his stone arm. He can't really do fine manipulation, but he pick things up without breaking/shattering/dropping them.

>>37664946
Isn't the problem with a sustained artifact leech spell that it would continually draw Vys without regard to currently unknown limitations? I imagine the Gems have some sort of hard limit to their capacity.

There's also the fact that there's no Vys in the void, and if we're wearing the sword we'd need to find a way to keep it from drawing from us and only from the environment, though that's a simple gate if we have the right rune to exclude.

>>37664946
That... might work, actually. I won't say anything beyond this; I'd recommend studying the shockwave sword and the enchantment already in place. That will give you a solid base to work off of.

>>37664863
>Search the Vatis District for a shop selling magical armor, weapons, and trinkets. You want to get some new equipment.
>Ask your master about that method he used in the void to shoot a bolt of lightning from his hand.

>>37665090
based on this, my guess is that there a good chance we could learn the vys rune with the shockwave sword?

>>37664946
Speaking of the generator, who wants to ask Fulvia if we can examine her for a meditation session? There's bound to be interesting shit we can find out about how her body at the least was made.

>>37665108
>>37665032
>>37664992
>>37664979
>Search the V-Dis
Shield for Prof seems pretty unanimous.

>>37664992
>>37665108
>Ask about that lightning thing.

>>37664992
>Get some sleep nigga.

You'll ask about the lightning thing then excuse yourself to search the Vatis District.

>>37665141
Technically from any of our artifacts which use Vys and Vys specifically in any way.

>>37665190
Whoops. Forgot to actually vote in favor of discussion.

Curse you shockwave anon, you've distracted me for the last time!

>>37665190
I would like to be tactful about the lightning, don't push him to explain a bunch while he's drained. If it's super complicated we can just ask him later.

>>37665190
Can we also be on the look out for a craftsman that would bind Chrys' mask and armor like she mentioned a while ago and for some basic traveling clothing as Mik suggested last thread(s)?

>>37665243
Yeah, this. No reason to be a knob about it.

>>37664946
Actually I'm really curious as to how a blade with a seemingly gem based enchantment on it will take to additional enchantment. Especially considering the gem itself was broken to produce the effect it currently has.

(Just finished marathon reading the whole quest)

Semi-long term projects for our Companions (esp if we are not bringing them along to our journeys)

-skull kid
creation of guns (from his word) in ours. Give him all our guns (not the vys one) and start small, like creating the amno those guns use and move on from there to the whole weapons. Long term, bug gun/ship cannons/artillery etc. Maybe even start Thaddeus arm Inc. or the like.

-Mortia
need more expansion or ideas from you guys, I’m thinking Mortia pharmaceutical.

(any other project you think you want give to our Companions)

>>37664808
>102 (?)
Make it 101 for the sake of the archive.

>>37665017
>Why the sword? We'd be better off doing it to a gem

don't want to see a 40 vys shockwave?

>having it leech 24/7 would cause problems draining vys from it, it also might kill us in our sleep by draining us to death

Probably not if we use manipulate or slow to have a slower leeching. That also why we should do test before hand.

>>37665022
>I think channeling leech into a sword only lets it leech from people you attack.

leech work by creating a vys funnel, I think we can choose from where and to where it work.

>>37665036
>Nice idea but for leach to affect vys it needs the vys rune
permanency can work on spell too

>>37665065
>Isn't the problem with a sustained artifact leech spell that it would continually draw Vys without regard to currently unknown limitations? I imagine the Gems have some sort of hard limit to their capacity.

again, we need to test it before hand.

>There's also the fact that there's no Vys in the void, and if we're wearing the sword we'd need to find a way to keep it from drawing from us and only from the environment

I think we can temporally shut it down with poison or manipulate (or perhaps permanently in the case of poison)

>>37665090
>That... might work, actually.
excellent!

>>37665181
excellent idea!

>>37665190
What about the green Vys man/thing???

>>37665414
I think they'll sort those things out themselves well enough, but I would also second giving Thad our non-magic guns for any help they may be to him.

>>37665466
Time is of the essence.

Though Soma If we did want to invite our family we'd simply need to ask Fulvia to order Pratima to order a slave to give our Father the message rather than going ourselves, of course.

>>37665466
Not worth giving up doing shit we already have to do.

Schedule Anon here. I’m halfway through the archives and I’ve got twenty pages of backlogged things we promised we would do. It’s time we’ve stopped fucking around. We’ve top tier stuff and the upgrades, as well as the knowledge to improve our companions. But we’ve been getting distracted by inconsequential bollocks after bollocks. Today, we’re rearming and reorganizing.
The first member of our party is also the member that needs upgrades the most, and the member that we’ve been neglecting the most; Fulvia. Inventory shows that we still have three sets of Technician armor, Optio armor, and our Centurion Armor. Fulvia is still currently wearing her layered armor with no enchantments. Skull Kid is currently unarmored.

>>30945041
Fulvia's Armor: It isn't long after that Fulvia returns from the back room, the owner of the workshop in tow. She's wearing what you can best describe as voluminous, layered robes with a cuirass of interlocking metal plates and a large hood. It, you suppose, means she doesn't have to waste nearly as much energy projecting an image of herself as a human woman. It doesn't look just terribly protective though. “Can you really call that armor? I mean, we could buy that at a tailor's shop.” She smiles, and peels back the layers of the cloth. Beneath each layer is a different armor, first interlocking plates on top, then lamellar hidden beneath that, and finally chainmail at the lowest level. “Yes, this is quite sufficient for my protection. It was listed at four hundred silver, however I believe you could negotiate it down to under three hundred with proper cajoling.”

>>37665441
If the sword will drain vis in dangerous amounts, but poison stops it, we could enchant the sheat with poison. Thereby preventing it from gathering.
Although I'm defenetly not against making it a bit more secure by trying to make the leech effect leech when we cut people. It would make for a pretty good weapon against Vys users

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/30936089/images/1395283668706.jpg

Fulvia is currently armored with common armor, while the rest of us are rocking top tier enchanted armor. We should provide her with either Optio armor or Centurion armor. Let's gear up our support.

>>30894760
Mathematical Magic: You unfurl the vellum scroll gently, careful not to tear the material since you can still return this for a refund after all. Most of the scroll is dominated by a series of formulae you have a little bit of difficulty comprehending. Your best guess is that it is meant to help one visualize the expenditure of vys as a mathematical procedure. If X amount of energy is expended in this way, then Y will result. While you're familiar with this interpretation, your master had drilled it into your head when you were young, it was never really your forte. You'd always preferred a more mystical, esoteric view of magic. Thus you look to the top of the page to see if it will go a little more in depth about what the formulae are trying to represent.

There ARE Vys Formulas. We need to get them to Skull Kid ASAP for his magical research. Fulvia can also have knowledge programmed in. We can have Skull Kid assist in programming in this knowledge. Besides upgrading Fulvia’s combat capabilities, having a trusted ally and ourselves interacting with her core will show her that we *can* be trusted, and hopefully repair our relationship.

>>37665604
>The first member of our party is also the member that needs upgrades the most
Chrys was the first member of our party you bumbling idiot.

>>37665604
In fairness skullkid is partially made of metal and fulvia is totally made of metal.

>>31486570

Improving Fulvia’s Magic: He scratches the back of his neck. “Well, I've been meditating. Just not... frequently. I love sleep too much to give it up completely like you two seem to have.” You shrug your shoulders. “That is fine, sleeping is probably healthier in the long run anyway. Just try to squeeze it in during the day then, next time we stop somewhere for a few days.” He nods, and you turn to Fulvia. “I've been meaning to ask you, can you teach me Metal magic? You mentioned being knowledgeable.” She seems to snap out of her reverie, replying with. “Unfortunately no, my knowledge of magic is dependent on the body I inhabit. I lack all but the most basic understanding of magic.” Well, damn. “Is there any way you could learn more magic then” She thinks about it for a moment. “I suppose, if you were to enter the Core and program in the knowledge directly, it may work.”

“Programming” in knowledge is possible. Fulvia is currently being left behind by Prof’s, Darzi’s, Chryssa’s, and Skull Kid’s progress. This may have contributed to her feelings of isolation. Increasing her capability and our levels of interactions with her is crucial. The QM himself gave us a hint when he wrote an in-character observation of her becoming more distant. Helping to improve her *will* yield significant fruit. It’s not a negative sum game. The most immediate example would be Construct Creation.

>>32093389
Anti-Mage Construct Core: Fulvia snatches the core out of your hands and exams it. She seems rather uncharacteristically eager. “That was an Antimage Construct you encountered. Antimages were always quite violent, and very hard to control. Is this the core you retrieved from its body?” You nod your head, and she smiles. “Good, it is undamaged. If you would allow me to at a later date I could purge this of the corruption that fills it and you may be able to recreate a construct similar to the one you faced."

>>37665604
Skull kid has armor made of palaka skin with minor desert enchantments.

>>37665656
First in priority for improvement you obtuse pedant.

>>32143440
Golem Upkeep, Permanency: Yes, the permanency effect essentially makes it self-sufficient. It allows it to gather vys from its surroundings like most living beings do. It would probably cost the upkeep of the golem as a one-time fee. So if you make a massive stone and metal golem, casting permanency on it would cost 10 vys.

To further improve combat capacity, we can have Fulvia purify the construct core so that we can create an Anti-Mage construct to use against opposing Vatis, or as Mansion security. All ya’all that wanted Golems? Here’s your chance. Don’t pass it up.

>>37665648
The other set of Centurion armor goes to Profectus we promised it to him.

>>37665604
>>37665648
Honestly I'm sure those could be solved by delegating the tasks to them with a few simple reminders.

>>37665669
With the exception of programming more knowledge in her, which we'll simply need to find the time to do.

>>37665714
He already has it and is wearing it.

>>37665683
That armor is nice, but since he's taking a support role now, he'll benefit much more from Technician's armor. It includes a manufacturing suite that can create simple tools on the fly, as well as protection from hazardous fumes, materials, and heat.

>>37665648
>Giving the mathematical formuleas to skull kid
your first idea i've liked.

>>37665714
We're no longer wearing out suit. Honestly, Fulvia could probably put it to much better use.

Well shit for the first time since near the beginning I actually get to participate in banished quest instead of reading about it later.

>>37665669
Fulvias magical strength still outstripes everyone in our group but us.

You recall that technique your Master used in the void, to hurl a bolt of lightning at Ricky. “Actually, before you head off to your well deserved rest. Would you mind explaining how you hurled a bolt of lightning in the void? So far as I was aware, such intricate spells were only available to Grandmaster Fire Vatis. By your own profession, you're not that skilled with Fire.”

Your master nods his head slowly. “I suppose it is something of a exclusive technique in this day and age. I read it in some book long ago and tried my hand at it. Essentially it relies on the assumption that the lightning which ushers from the clouds during a thunderstorm is a sort of...-”

He gestures vaguely towards the sky, searching for some word or another. “-well. It's not physical, but it's not wholly ephemeral either. It's vys channeled by nature itself, by a confluence of wind and moisture and heat. Anyway, what you must do is gather the vys towards your hand. Don't drink it in, as you'll likely feel compelled to. Merely let it gather around your hand. Once you have it in large enough quantities, sparks should begin to arc between your fingers. The power will grow and accumulate and becoming more and more cohesive until the process breaks down and you lose control of the spell. A bolt of lightning will shoot out, and usually put a hole through whatever you're pointing at.”

He nods, pushing himself to his feet. “If you'd like, I can give you a demonstration later. For now, I must rest. Thank you, Mikhael. You've given me much to ponder.”

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>>37665624
>If the sword will drain vis in dangerous amounts, but poison stops it, we could enchant the sheat with poison. Thereby preventing it from gathering.

that a brilliant idea actually!

>Although I'm defenetly not against making it a bit more secure by trying to make the leech effect leech when we cut people. It would make for a pretty good weapon against Vys users

that would just turn it in a cool weapons, what i propose is a mean to constantly and effortlessly gather vys without need for meditation. that could easily double our vys reserve, and also slowly regen it during dungeon crawl.

>>37665669
>The QM himself gave us a hint when he wrote an in-character observation of her becoming more distant.
That is a serious stretch, there's dozens of reasons for that.

He shuffles out of the room, much of the sprightliness he'd previously displayed gone. You take a moment to extract a second piece of paper and quickly inscribe a list of all the runes you know along with what they mean, instructions to meditate on each at the bottom. That done, you stand as well and follow him as far as the stairwell before diverging. He goes up, whilst you go down to the ground floor. When finally you swing open the front door, you find your carriage sitting just where you left it. Your driver, Stelios, is presumably waiting for you inside. Assuming he hasn't run off, that is.

You stop up to the door of the carriage compartment and knock sharply. It swings open in a moment, Stelios standing hunched over in the doorway. You step aside, and he quickly exits. Once he's found his footing on the paving stones, he turns to you and bows low. You wait until he stands up straight before addressing him.

“I need you to drive around the Vatis district and keep an eye out for any stores you'd describe as... magical, esoteric, mystical, strange, or otherwise unusual. I've decided to pick up some additional equipment for myself and my companions.”

He nods and quickly hops up into the driver's seat. You climb into the carriage compartment and make yourself comfortable. The reins snap and in an instant the carriage jerks into motion, your thoughts drifting to just what it is you intend to buy. You definitely need a shield for Profectus, and perhaps an experienced smith to fuse Chryssa's armors together. You also want some traveling garb.
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>>37665766
It's too bad she's physically quite vulnerable. Baldev defeated her without breaking a sweat by removing her core from her Administrator receptacle.

>>37665755
We still use it man.

Then again, the best smiths live in the Common District, for the most part at least. There are certain Metal Vatis who likely far surpass them but they're actual Vatis and you'd need to look them up in the directory at the Grand Library to find them. Considering you're ineligible to enter the Grand Library, it's a task much harder than it sounds. All of that aside, Chryssa has her armor with her so far as you're aware.

>Contact Profectus and ask him what kind of shield he prefers, inform him you'll be using his money to make the purchase.
>Contact Chrys and ask if she wants to go get her armor repaired and modified.
>Contact Fulvia and ask her if she'd like anything while you're out.
>Write-in

>>37665701
We can create many golems as we please without the antimage core.

Simply Animate some Water then permenancy.

>>37665818
>Contact Profectus and ask him what kind of shield he prefers, inform him you'll be using his money to make the purchase.
>Contact Chrys and ask if she wants to go get her armor repaired and modified.
>Contact Fulvia and ask her if she'd like anything while you're out.

>>37665818
>>Contact Profectus and ask him what kind of shield he prefers, inform him you'll be using his money to make the purchase.
>>Contact Chrys and ask if she wants to go get her armor repaired and modified.
>>Contact Fulvia and ask her if she'd like anything while you're out.
all of 'em, might as well ask the rest of the gang

>>37665818
>Contact Profectus and ask him what kind of shield he prefers, inform him you'll be using his money to make the purchase.
>Contact Chrys and ask if she wants to go get her armor repaired and modified.
>Contact Fulvia and ask her if she'd like anything while you're out.

>>37665810
On the contrary, we've resolved to use the Warlock Armor now, last time I checked. We resolved that once we reached a certain level of Vys reserve, the Warlock armor would have way more benefits.

>>37665822
These golems would be vulnerable to the manipulations of any Vatis. The Antimage Golem was resistant to our Metas and physical damage when we encountered it in the mines.

>>37665802
Baldev beat our entire party with barely a wound on him.

>>37665818
>Contact Profectus and ask him what kind of shield he prefers, inform him you'll be using his money to make the purchase.
And couldn't we just offer Chrys the Optio Armor? I'm certain it's better for her then her current one.
>>37665862
But Centurion is better for Rhynian ruins if memory serves.

>>37665818
>>Contact Profectus and ask him what kind of shield he prefers, inform him you'll be using his money to make the purchase.
>>Contact Chrys and ask if she wants to go get her armor repaired and modified.
>>Contact Fulvia and ask her if she'd like anything while you're out.

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>>37665818
>Contact Fulvia and ask her if she'd like anything while you're out.

Keep the centurion armor for the Rhynian ruins we might dive into in the future, if we find another set there, we can give it to Fulvia.
Remember that the 1st ruins we dived, we where only able to go that far because of it.

>>37665897
It's a good thing Profectus has no inclination of giving up his suite. Furthermore, Fulvia has demonstrated security subversion capabilities that go beyond the mere "aura" of authority the Centurion armor projects.

>>32344886
Fulvia Security Subversion Ability: You're about to reach down to place your hand on the surface when Fulvia grabs your wrist gently and pushes it away. “It won't open for you.” She states simply, before crouching down next to it and ripping out the bottom of the panel. ”Well how does damaging it get it to open?” Fulvia shakes her head. “Not damaging, simply exploiting a weakness in the security.” She rips out a number of wires, and then touches the torn ends of two of them together. They spark loudly and the door slides open. “See?” You nod, impressed. She'll need to teach you how to do that. You step hesitantly into the darkened control room, only for lights to spring to life as you enter. They shine harshly from overhead, bathing the room in sterile white light.

>>37665862
We also have not fully explored the capabilities the Centurion armor. Best to stay versatile.

Also creating an antimage golem would require the schematics for the golem, not just having a core.

Better to either Animate + permenancy or Enchant + Permenancy

>>37665897
Chrys's Horned armor is better than any other armor we have.

>>37665847
>>37665856
>>37665860
>>37665913
>All of the above

>>37665897
>Prof only

>>37665919
>Fulvia only

>>37665960
>Chrys's Horned armor is better than any other armor we have.
That's bullshit and you know it. Most of it's capabilities are in the mask and the rest are unknown.

>>37665950
I don't see how Fulvia opening a locked door pertains to anything. She has design knowledge of such things and thus would be able to exploit it.

>>37665894
Not true, actually. When we found him he had an arrow through his leg and a few stab wounds if I remember right.

>>37666013
That guy was probably hopped up on some heavy magic shit.

>>37665960
>-Unknown Armor (+3 to Soak Damage, +4 to Attack Rolls, Magic Sight, Hidden Effects)

It may have a good base statline, especially for her current setup and for adding her much superior Elaudian Death Mask to, but I'm mostly sure 'better than any other' actually doesn't fit its description.

>>37665995
Meant any other armor we have open.

and

>Most of it's capabilities are in the mask
what? We know pretty much nothing about it's capabilities and if we want to know we should ask Chryys.

If you're talking about the Elaudian death mask that is an entirely separate item.

>>37666013
He crit rolled and our party crit failed their respectives rolls, he might have suffered these wounds before he got turned into whatever he was...which is kind of spooky if you think about it, the guy was a monster...and he was already crippled

>>37665960
>>37665995
Speaking of which, we still have yet to meditate on the "mystery" Armor. We have multiple methods of doing so. The first is merely performing an appraise check with significantly boosted Vys to our roll.

>>30439688
Meta Note, Hints: Something like formulating a plan though, I would let you use Vys to get yourself a hint. 1 for a small hint, all of it for a rather clear and obvious hint that leave little else for you to do.

We could also meditate on the suit. She's number three on the priority list. I'd like to make a further note that this suit has the same reference image as the "rising people" that will become a major part in our lives. Lastly, Chryssa expressed interest in getting the Mystery armor Mask removed. We should get that done.

>>37666005
Exactly. Fulvia is much more familiar with security protocols

>>37666013
Compared to what it took to kill him that's pretty much nothing.

>>37666048
Do you really think we'll be able to just "sew" on her elaudian death mask? I guess it's worth a shot if the front part of her helmet is open but we have no idea how it'll react to other simultaneous enchantments on the armor.

>>37666044
Nah the party rolled shit.
>>37666048
>>37666049
Has she even tried to experiment with it? We should understand how it works before we start fucking after all the armor is an enchanted set.

>>37666097
I don't know anon, that's why I suggested finding a smith for an expert opinion three threads ago when I remembered Chryssa talking about her armor and preferring the functions of her Elaudian Death Mask over those of the Armor's.

>>37666083
>we still have yet to meditate on the "mystery" Armor.
>wasting a meditation on that
We have more important shit

>We could also meditate on the suit.
Which suit? specify? You talking about chrysys' horned armor?

>She's number three on the priority list.
says who?

>Lastly, Chryssa expressed interest in getting the Mystery armor Mask removed.
Where and when?


>Exactly. Fulvia is much more familiar with security protocols
What does that have to do with anything?

>>37666097
I dont know man, he might of had a few words with the draco lich. I mean we nearly did.

>>37666128
>>37666123
She said that the mask was better for archery and the armor was better for close combat lamenting how she could not have both at the same time.

but we have many more important things to worry about than optimizing her armor. many things.

>>37666123
She has. She knows exactly what it does and much prefers the Death Mask.

>>32432013
“So, what does that armor do?” You ask Chrys while returning to the spot you'd been sitting prior the battle with the horrible monstrosity. You assume a meditation pose, preparing to slip into your trance while Chrys explains. “Well, I'm not really sure. I'm still experimenting. The mask has the same function as my other one, in that it allows me to see the currents of vys in the air. However it lacks the magnification or the tracking functions. My Death Mask actually allows me to easier spot footprints and follow trails, it was very handy.”

>>37666144
See quoted response. I say she's number three, and I'm much smarter than you and have much more knowledge than you.

Say Soma, can you explain how long the fight against the Elephant back in the underground of Namek would have taken if we didn't go the paralyze route? I don't remember if anyone asked that already.

>>37666144
>Where and when?
A bit ago.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/32421077/#p32432013
Aside from the obvious base bonuses of the EDM being really good, of course.

>>37666197
Most of the enchantments are in the mask. Vys vision said as much. Removing the mask may ruin how the suit works.

>>37666265
When most of the enchantments are in Chryssa's opinion, shit, we can afford to do away with it. I placed the notation about modification last because I believe an appraisal role boosted by Vys beforehand via meta-hint-system or Meditation would be best.

>>37666265
It may.
And so we'll find out.

>>37666201
I mean, it's hard to say. It would've depended on rolls. The thing about the elephant was that, essentially, if it hit you it knocked you da fuq out. Even a regular failure would've resulted in crushed lungs, shattered ribs, and maybe a broken spine. It speaks to the strength of the allows used to make Skull Kid's augments that he was able to hop up just fine a few minutes later.

>>37666197
>>37666202
You forgot to quote

>You nod along. “Do you think there is any chance you may be able to switch out the mask on that armor for the death mask?” She thinks for a moment, and then shakes her head. “I doubt it, not without possibly damaging the armor. Perhaps I will ask Hayes about such a task when we next see him, he seems like he may be capable of performing such a feat.” You shrug your shoulders. “That's probably wise, though there will be other crafters of similar ability in Pidjata I'm sure.”

she doesn't think it can happen and isn't holding out much hope.

>>37666197
> I say she's number three, and I'm much smarter than you and have much more knowledge than you.
Okay now you can go fuck yourself for being a conceited prick and thinking you're better than everyone else. Not to mention just catching up and thinking you have say over the entire quest, leave we don't people forcing their opinions (shitty ones at that) down our throats.

>>37666315
>allows
Alloys. Fuck. They're not even close to one another.

>>37666330
She does think it can happen and we know there are craftsman equal to Hayes that could be able to replicate the feat. I'm not going to respond to your Ad Hominem attack on my objective, non-subjective statement of fact.

>>37666291
>When most of the enchantments are in Chryssa's opinion, shit
It's not shit as a matter of fact the suit's mask is really good, it just that she likes the death mask better.

>>37666330
>she doesn't think it can happen and isn't holding out much hope.
So we shouldn't try, is what you're arguing for? Also there's no "forgot to quote" when you're quoting from the exact link you were given.

Mikael also suggests that other crafters may be able to do it in Pidjata, we're simply looking for the opportunity to do so in El-Amin.

>>37666265
It has plenty of other non mask based enchantments. maybe you're thinking of our warlock armor but the only specific one in her helmet was the Vys sight.

>>37666291
>When most of the enchantments are in Chryssa's opinion, shit, we can afford to do away with it
The only thing she mention was how her death mask was better than her Vys sight. Nothing about the majority of capabilities of her armor, don't make assumptions.

>>37666387
Well, the reason why Chryssa is using this armor is because we went full Gawain and told her to pick. This is her armor. I think her opinion and needs take priority, don't you?

>>37666376
>She thinks for a moment, and then shakes her head. “I doubt it, not without possibly damaging the armor
Try reading. That means probably no but i'm not an expert so maybe.

>fact
hah

>>37666412
Apologies. I meant to convey that Chryssa greatly prefers the sensory suite on her mask to the Mystery Armor mask. Thank you for clarifying my poor wording.

>>37666412
>It has plenty of other non mask based enchantments.
The brightest part of the mystery armor was the mask thereforth has the most enchantments. Has she even tried channeling vys into it?

We can get her a better armor to go along with the mask~

>>37666436
For someone saying talking shit about the reading comprehension of others, you have shockingly little yourself. The query in context was, "Could you in the bottom of this mineshaft with no proper leatherworking facilities or tools, modify the Eludian Death Mask to fit the Mystery Armor with your own knowledge of leathworking?" The answer was "no." The conditional was that others might in proper facilities.

>>37666398
>Also there's no "forgot to quote" when you're quoting from the exact link you were given.
It's called skewing facts.

Like showing one side of an argument, or only part of a statement when the speaker isn't meaning to say what you are trying to portray them saying.

It's a dirty debate tactic that you use when you have no point.

And no im not saying we shouldn't try, it's just we have many more important things to worry about and that is something she can take care of on her own, it's her money and her armor.

>>37666489
This is always an option.

Can we get a remake of The mask without the ooky spooky entity in it? I think it would be cool. Also we need a mask, can't always have your face being seen.

>>37666497
How exactly is giving the link that was asked for a dirty debate tactic, anon? If anything that's exactly what you were doing when you took that specific bit out of greater context.
You're really stretching the straws you've grasped.

>>37666491
The question was "could you" not "could you as of right now at the very moment with your current tools complete..."

On your reasoning we cannot lockpick 90% of the time because we do not have our lockpicks on us when we are proficient with them.

Or we cannot eat if we do not have food on us.

don't try to lawyer words it works both ways.

>>37666489
We could.

>>37666536
I was bringing the part he "left out" up.

He said that Chrys said X siting it with evidence V

When in reality that V was a W that did not support X but instead supported Y.

>>37666592
Then you should've only said so to him, not me. >>37666202

>>37666592
You're not making a lot of sense, anon.

>>37666536
What he is trying to imply is that the other anon is pretty much using a journalism tactic.
Tom is recorded saying "Joe is trying to make it look like I HATE Mary"

The person who recorded it edits it and show Mary a clip of Tom saying "I HATE Mary"

It's a simple smear tactic, and generally easily dismissed by the showing of the entire video, unless the editor has the only copy in which case Tom is royally fucked.

>>37666592
>>37666558
At the end of the day, Chryssa would like to acquire the services of a professional, and we know that there are such professionals in Pidjata. Those are the simple facts. This entire debate is a digression. Does anyone have any issues with improving our most overlooked companion with the most tenuous personal relationships?

>>37666703
In the context of being provided merely a link and responding to it with such an argument, he is only very foolish.

>>37666736
And also this.

>>37666736
We have better things to do and that's her buisness anyway.

>>37666749
>>37666736
>>37666703
Why don't we get her a new armor? I'm certain we could find better.

>>37666766
I disagree, and even if I didn't it doesn't matter because we already voted for it ya dunce!

>>37666736
We could learn probably 2 Metas in the time it would take to do that.

When she could do it just fine on her own.

>>37666766
We have always made it our business to look after and improve our companions. When did this change?

>>37666766

Tell me what you think are better things to do besides getting our party better prepared to deal with the death trap of a desert that we are going to soon?

Did we forget Zahak in our master's house?

>>37666777
It is certainly an option.

Any better armor that can be used alongside the mask would be fantastic.

>>37666810

Oh shit GO BACK. WE CANT DO THIS SHIT AGAIN!

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>>37666810
oops

>>37666777
The Horned armor was made for her species, her horns won fit with any other helmet, and i doubt we'd find much better.

>>37666793
When did they become children who couldn't shop for themselves?

I like Chrys as a love interest and companion but she knows what she wants and there's almost no reason for us to be there. Other than romance reasons, if you want a date that's fine but i don't thikn now is the time.

I'm just saying our presence is kind of superfluous is all.

>>37666810
...Shit. He wasn't even mentioned once in the update.

>>37666807
I'm saying she is fully capable of doing it herself.

Better to learn Metas or meditate on metal or do one of the hundreds of things we need because we are woefully underpowered as is.

>>37666879
Sorry, I thought that statement was made to argue against programming more knowledge into Fulvia. Apologies for the mussup.

>>37666810
welp

>>37666906
On the contrary, and as elaborated on before, Fulvia is incapable of self improvement. She only has a basic understanding of Magic. >>37665669

>>37666810
well, shit

>>37666879
>The Horned armor was made for her species, her horns won fit with any other helmet, and i doubt we'd find much better.
Get your head out of ass. There are armor that don't come with a helmet and why would we buy that kind any way?

>>37666906

The problem is that our city is insanely racist. Going out on her own isn't likely to bare fruit unless she goes with us or goes with Darzi.

I just know your going to suggest her going with Darzi next and I will agree with you that it is a better idea if she does.

SOMA WERE THE FUCK ARE YA?

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>>37666810
Damnit.

>>37666984

Don't worry. Never worry. Soma is never late nor is he early. He posts exactly when he means to and we should live with that.

>>37667004
How would one post exactly when one means not to?

>>37667023
Exactly like th

>>37667023

Its happened to me with 4chan X. Forced me to post when I solved the Captcha instead of waiting for me to click send.

>>37666922
>more knowledge into Fulvia.
ok

>>37666975
We were talking about Chrys.

Eventually programming More shit into Fulvia will be necessary.

Not to say she isn't quite powerfull as it. and the programming would be a completely unknown process. Still something we will need to consult her before hand about.

Is latin a dead language?

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You reach out to Fulvia, Chryssa, and Profectus using your brooches as the carriage rumbles through the Vatis District. {I'm shopping for new enchanted equipment. Profectus, I'm buying you a shield. You mentioned that you're sued to fighting with one. What sort do you want? Oh, and I'll be using your money to pay for it. At least, for your portion of it. You won't owe me anything. As for the rest of you, I figured I'd ask if you needed anything. I remember Chrys said something about getting her armor repaired and modified, and I figured we may as well get that done today.}

Fulvia seems intrigued, or at least that's the sort of vague impression you get. {I suppose I could do with a new set of armor, though I'm uncertain you need to buy anything. Truthfully my current set is fine, I don't intend on getting involved in much combat. Perhaps one of the suits of Technician's Armor you have stored would be sufficient.} She pauses before speaking again. {Though it is selfish of me, I must admit... if you find any AI cores, golem cores, or any strange gems of any sort, I'd like you to purchase them for me. I believe there is also a corrupt golem core stored in your cloak as well that I would very dearly like to study.}

You feel a bit uneasy about producing an army of golems for the aspiring world conqueror that is Fulvia. However, you're essentially doing her shopping in her stead. {It's not really selfish at all, I'll be using your money.}

Prof's voice is the next to worm its way into your mind. {I'd like a tower shield. At least four feet tall and half or more as wide. Five feet by three feet would be optimal but I mean, it's enchanted equipment. I won't freak out over a few odd proportions. Any enchantment is fine, but try to keep the price under a hundred gold. Anything more than that, run it by me first.}

That's a respectable enough request, you'd want the same courtesy. {Will do, Profectus. Chrys, what do you think about that armor?}
(1/4)

Her reply is hesitant. {While I would very much like to have my reinforced technician's armor repaired and incorporated into the horned suit of armor I currently wear, and the mask attached to hood replaced with the Elaudian Death Mask, I would not wish to have this done by anyone not skilled in both armor crafting and magic. I believe that the mask of the armor may serve as something of a focal point for the entire suit, so I'd like to have it inspected by someone knowledgeable before risking its destruction or damage.}

{That said, the incorporation of the technician's armor should be a simple enough task. Then again, considering the number of modifications I wish to make it may simply be easier to buy a new set of armor. If you'd return to the mansion before setting off in search of a blacksmith I would be happy to join you. Alternatively, if you find a suit of armor that you think I may like, please contact me.}

{Will do, Chrys. I'll give you advance warning if I can't find anything satisfactory. Regardless, expect my return within two or three hours.}

You sever the connection and Zahak, who'd turned himself invisible before leaving the door and gotten into the carriage behind you, nuzzles his snout into your side. {Why come you make those quiet roars if you can talk to other people normally?}

You look down at your adoptive son, confused for a moment. {You mean the conversation I was having with my companions?} You get a generally positive impression, which you take as a yes, and continue speaking. {I can only talk with them like we talk because I have a magical artifact which allows me to do so. Non-dragons can't speak mentally, so far as I'm aware.}
(2/4)

>>37666979
I think it's more about

Helmet > No Helmet

And The horned armor is already quite powerfull, don't see a reason to trade.

>>37666983
Send Petra as her guide.

And coin seems to be fair in pidjata, she might suffer a little price hike be she has proven herself to be a more than competent haggler.

Darzi still has the other guards to worry about.

>>37667053
>>37665648
Mathematical magic does exist. Our master knows quite a bit about it and getting the formula, processes, and methods of scientific magic to Skull Kid for his experiments and conversion into robo-language should be a priority.

You take a moment to remove your brooch from where it binds your cloak around your shoulders and hold it up for him to see. {It's a pretty ingenious little tool, really. I wish I could figure out a way to reproduce it.} You refasten it to your cloak, and reach down to scratch at the base of Zahak's horn.

Unfortunately it isn't long before the carriage rolls to a halt and Stelios pulls the door open. “Sir, I believe that I have found a location for shopping that is what you desire.”

You nod, urging Zahak to stay inside while you climb out of the carriage. Stelios shuts the door behind you and stands in front of it stiffly, like a guard at the palace gates. You find yourself on a long stretch of road lined with more or less identical blocks of houses. Some have minor variances, a tower or an additional level or some such. For the most part they look the same. This part of the Vatis District was all built at once who knows how many thousands of years ago, so there isn't much in the way of variation that hasn't been added on later.

However, there is one exception to this rule. A squat, ugly little stone building that looks more like a prison than a house. A short stairwell leads down to the iron door, which sits fully below ground level. Tiny barred windows allow only the barest of glances inside. A sign hanging from the door reads simply “House of Wonders”. You suppose it is indeed quite odd, compared to the buildings surrounding it.

(3/4)

You're a little hesitant, but descend the staircase regardless. You have to really put your weight into getting the door to swing open, as rusted as its hinges seem to be. They let out an increasingly hellish screech with every inch the door swings open. Eventually you manage to slip inside, finding yourself in a cramped, you'd even say claustrophobic, display room. A man stands hunched over a desk wearing some sort of elaborate, long nosed mask and a guard stands at one end of the room, eyeing you warily.

It's the masked man who speaks first. “Welcome! Welcome oh valued customer!” His voice is raspy and quiet, like he's not used to speaking. “What can I do for you on this fine-” He pauses to peer out the window. “-day, is it?”

>You're looking for armor.
>You're looking for a shield.
>You're just looking, not for anything specific.
>This place as sketchy, bail.
>Write-in

>>37667118
>>37667094
Why did we agree to do the entire parties shopping for them?

We have shit to do

>>37667172
>You're looking for armor.
>You're looking for a shield.
>You're just looking, not for anything specific.

Look at everything.

Haggle for everything.

SoP gentleman

>>37667124
>And The horned armor is already quite powerfull, don't see a reason to trade.
Without the mask? It's shit but then again you could just enchant a helmet.

>>37667132
Mathematical magic doens't really have anything to do with us programming fulvia so i dont know why you quoted me

>>37667206
We have Vys sight and know enchanting. Also, we are Omega Jew.

>>37667172
>You're looking for armor.
>You're looking for a shield.
>You're just looking, not for anything specific.

>>37667094
>You mentioned that you're sued
>sued

>>37667206
We're here and so we'll get it done. Quit yer moaning and put some back into it!

>>37667172
>You're looking for armor.
>You're looking for a shield.
>You're looking for MAGICAL GEMS. (Fulvia's Suggestion)

>>37667172
>You're looking for armor.
>You're looking for a shield.
>You're just looking, not for anything specific.
Show me what you got.

>>37667230
Fulvia doesn't work by freeballing magic on the fly like we interpret it. Her's is measured and calculated. Implementing magical knowledge in that objective manner will be more expedient and effective.

>>37667206
>We have shit to do
Like? Meditate and read? We can do that any time. We already taught everything we needed to everyone we needed to. We should probably help repair the estate at some point, but it's not high on the list of priorities.

I guess we need to find someone to cater that party we're throwing, unless our slaves can cook.

>>37667172
>You're looking for armor.
>You're looking for a shield.
>You're just looking, not for anything specific.

>>37667246
Seconding "magical gems," if there's cores we should be able to tell by feeling just like before.

>>37667284
I recall our friend asking if it's a typical "everyone brings something they have" to the party, party. We answered in the affirmative.

However, I would not mind getting some competent catering done. But in that case I'd prefer we invite some of our family first.

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Time to flex them jewmuscles lads.
Better start warming them.

>>37667172

>You're just looking, not for anything specific.

>>37667282
Pretty much all of our interaction inside Fulvias core have been symbolic and almost completely unknown consequences.

Also I have no clue where something has been stated saying this.

I don't even think the Mathmatical vs Intuitive catching even applies to her, she's a robot she just does it.

But we should introduce SK to these formulas

>>37667239
Meant to say used, obviously. Y'know, "used to". It's an idiom.

Anyway, writin' for
>All of the above+gems

>>37667284
Your slaves are assumed to be able to cook, it's one of those things most every slave ought to be trained for. Granted, you've never put them to the test.

>>37667404
How likely is it our friends will poke and prod us about how we got so seemingly successful so quickly and blab every detail they hear to everyone they know in El-Amin?

>>37667512
It's not like I can answer that question, Anon.

>>37667512
...If they're our childhood friends, don't you think it's more likely they'd ask to go on adventures with us? At least the ones if nothing else more important to do.

>>37667512
We're not gonna tell them the dangerous shit.

The rest will just be gossip and rumors. And no one trusts the rumormill.

>>37667555
Probably not THAT close.

We've also been away and we've changed

>>37667613
What if they've all turned into secret brigands while we were gone?

>>37667747

Then we shall rob them like the rest I guess.

>>37667786
We've made 99% of our shit from stealing from theives.

This amuses me.

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Guys. Guys. What if...what if our carpet munching fried Rajani gets drunk and starts making moves on Darzi/Chryssa?

>>37667857
We watch it go down in flames.

>>37667857
She gets to meet our best friend ricky
Also I'm like 90% shes not a dyke and mik just thinks she is

>>37667857
Just watch. It will be funny.

>>37667894
I hope you're refering to El-Amin and not just the relationship.

Cause that's what'll happen.

>>37667857
Considering
1. Chrys has a husbando
and
2. Darzi likes dick
Nothing will happen besides possibly chrys breaking a few bones, if shes drunk by that point

>>37667857
She will probably not be drunk enough to make out with filthy non-samja.

>>37668034
I'd hope not. What a scandal! And if there's an illusion over an Elf servant that makes her look like an incredibly attractive Samjan women to her tastes, oh the tragedy!

>>37668082
No.
Anon, No.

>>37667857
The evil god influencing us will probably make us go full yandere and rip her whole body apart on a molecular level while keeping here alive because magic

>>37668128
I would vote for it

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>>37668111
We'll see about that.

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>>37668128

>>37668164
Anon don't make me samefag a vote. I will do it if I have to but we won't be doing what you proposed.

>>37668218
I didn't propose it but I wouldn't be surprised if it got taction, s'all.
And shame on you for samefagging.

>>37668218
I really hope they're joking.

That's the kind of stupid shit that doesn't fly in quests like this.

And when new players suggest it trying to give off "cool" suggestion it blows up horrendously.

>>37668292
Shame me if you want faggot. it will not be happening

>>37668318
Touchy, touchy.

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You blow out a long sigh. “Let's see... I need a shield. A tower shield, to be specific. Preferably of Rhynian make. I'm also interested in maybe purchasing a full suit of armor, but it would need to be something that really grabs my attention. Oh, and any strange gems you might have. I'd like to inspect them. Other than that... just general objects of interest really. I'm shopping for several very powerful, very wealthy individuals.”

The man begins to speak, but descends into a coughing fit. Once he's recovered he clears his throat and tries again, voice just as hoarse if not more so than previously. “You are in luck indeed, my friend! I many such objects which are sure to impress. “We shall begin with shields, yes? I have two such items I believe will meet your needs.”

He pushes aside a curtain and vanishes beyond. You hear a variety of objects clinking together, and a loud crash at one point. There's a hellish shriek and a few muffled curses, then the roar of flame. Light flickers across the curtain for a few moments and the shrieking is silenced almost immediately. The roar of flame cuts out after a few more seconds, and silence reigns throughout the shop. Eventually the masked figure returns, holding a shield in either hand.

The one in his left hand is entirely wooden, a horribly unsettling face carved into its surface. It stares at you with a sort of hateful intensity you didn't think a mere wooden carving could reach, its tusked mouth seeming to snarl at you. You're not sure what the hell it is.

The other shield is a far more professional affair. It's constructed of solid steel, a design embossed in silver against a black background. It seems to you that it depicts some sort of bird, you wouldn't really be able to guess what sort exactly. Perhaps some sort of crane, stork, songbird, or a bird of prey not native to Pidjata.
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The man clears his throat before speaking. “Now then, oh valued customer. We have the Shield of Aix, and the Shield of Leleki. Two of the most ancient of Elven gods. Of course, the elves have many gods and always have. More than any one man can count. However, these two are the most commonly venerated, so far as I'm aware. The situation may have changed over the course of the last... oh, eight hundred years since I visited Elven lands.”

He hefts the shield in his left hand, the wooden shield with a face carved into it. “This is the Shield of Aix, the Buck as they call him. As you can see he's horned and tusked. So far as I'm aware it peers into the mind of an enemy and, to some extent, seizes control of the wearer's arm. It moves itself to block attacks. Quite sturdy as well, though the materials wouldn't suggest it.”

Next he hefts the shield in his right hand, the metallic shield. “This is the Shield of Leleki. Leleki was viewed as chief of the so called 'Pantheon tou Dasous'. That is to say, the Forest Pantheon. It was the collection of gods worshiped by nomads, remote villages, and hermits. As the so called 'Vasilias Ton Theon', king of the gods, he was afforded certain rights and privileges. It's important to note that in Elven myth, there are many kings but only one 'Autokratoras', Emperor."

"Anyway, this shield affords the wielder the ability to change the very hearts of the enemy. It allows them to weaken their resolve, and cause them to flee or surrender more easily. Obviously it was most effective when used by large numbers of soldiers at once. By itself, well. I'm not sure how effective it would be.”

>You want the Shield of Aix, it seems more useful.
>You want the Shield of Leleki, it seems more interesting.
>Meh, you're not really interested.

>>37668372
>Confer with Profectus on his preference between them
>Ask Profectus about little details with these Gods for haggling them down

>>37668372
>You want the Shield of Aix, it seems more useful.
>Ask if he has others. Just in case.

Introduce him to Ricky. That should solve his little attitude problem.

>>37668372
Can we get both? I want to study the shit out of the emperor one.

>>37668372
>Ask Prof

>>37668372
Ask Prof, ask for price as well

>>37668372
Ask Prof.
>>37668405
>Introduce him to Ricky. That should solve his little attitude problem.
No

>>37668403
>>37668405
Supportan' these fine gentlemen.

>>37668372
>>37668403
Seconding.

>>37668405
What the fuck? No,

>>37668372
>You want the Shield of Aix, it seems more useful.

>>37668372
Can we hand wave his hoarse throat? I don't want the man we're negotiating with to be breaking down into coughing fits

>>37668405
>That should solve his little attitude problem.
What attitude problem?

>>37668372

Ask Prof

>>37668464
Healing him that bit may give us a bonus to haggling with him anon, good idea.
Or it may make him better at haggling, but still grateful.

>>37668416
We wouldn't end up doing it.

>>37668372
Ask Profectus which he prefers.

>>37668372
Why am I looking at a 3 eyed avian creature with a beak in the middle of its figure?

>>37668372
Hm, a wooden shield for a fire-wielding vatis? A shield that seizes control of the wearer's stone-with-fire-spirit arm?
Not sure how I feel about that, though it seems more useful than the nice-looking shield.
>Ask Prof

>>37668464
before doing so, ask him about it, then offer to help if he'd be willing to either give a discount or throw a freebie at the volume of shit we'll be buying

>>37668372
Whats the price you cock mongler?
NEVER AGREE TO A BARGIN WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE PRICE

>>37668493
We could also set him up with an alchemist.

>>37668372
>You want the Shield of Leleki, it seems more interesting.

>>37668372
>>37668403
This.

>>37668520
Stating your intentions is the stupidest thing you can do. Stop being a bad jew

>>37668403
Thirding.

>>37668405
it's like, you want us to become evil, ricky is a special circumstance sort of thing.

>>37668403
suppoarting

>>37668372
>You want the Shield of Aix, it seems more useful.

>>37668564
>wanting to heal throat not-cancer or whatever for free.

Why don't we get a shield for our self?

>>37668630
You really are bad at this.

>>37668646
Spears and magic.

shields are for plebs.

>>37668630
Anon...

>>37668668
We have Rhynian training. We might as well put it to use.

>>37668646
We mostly use a spear. But Thad could profit from a shield.

>>37668630
>Wanting to do it only for profit not just to be a cool guy

>>37668630
im pretty sure that if he could have gotten it taken care of by another vatis, he would have.

>>37668715
Not necessarily.

>>37668440
>>37668442
>>37668551
>>37668403
>>37668585
>>37668606
>>37668420
>>37668424
>>37668433
>>37668502
>>37668519
>>37668617
>Yo negro, what you want?

>>37668405
>>37668440
>>37668452
>Shield of Aix

>>37668533
>Shield of Leleki

>>37668405
>>37668440
>Shove him in the cloak, for some reason?

>>37668416
>Both

Writin', but while I do so

Ask about a shield for yourself?
>Naah, you don't really plan on getting up close and personal.
>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.

A note on coughing. You could hand wave most of the symptoms but probably not the actual cause, though you could certainly improve his condition vastly. If he had something like pneumonia, it would take a shit ton of effort at your current level of anatomical knowledge to carefully extract the mucous in his lungs and repair any damage you cause in the process. If it's something like cancer, you'd be shit outta luck. You'd need to cut out the growth and everything around it and heal the wound. Not really a quick process.

>>37668743
>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.
Varvar used shields too.

>>37668743
>>Naah, you don't really plan on getting up close and personal.

>>37668743
>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.
See if he has any light shields that would compliment agile spear movements.

>>37668743
>Naah, you don't really plan on getting up close and personal.

>>37668743
>>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.

>>37668743
>Naah, you don't really plan on getting up close and personal.

>>37668743
>>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.
more for SK (with his mace or lightsaber) or Chryssa (with her earth mace) than for us, but let's see what he has to offer

>>37668743
>>Naah, you don't really plan on getting up close and personal.
>implying shields aren't for when enemies get up close and personal

Not a vote, just a Wat.

>>37668743
>buy some shields, like 8 of 'em.
>meditate on them mistral arms.
>master it, equip shields on ice arms.
>be both Mistral AND Sundowner.
>LOCAL SAMJAN IS FUCKIN INVICIBLE

>>37668743
>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.
Just because you don't plan on doesn't mean you won't be.

>>37668743
>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.

We could see if he has any bucklers

>>37668743
>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.

>>37668743
>Sure, may as well see what's on offer.

>>37668847
THE WALL

>>37668836
What even are arrows, man? It's a mystery. A myth, a legend. Arrows aren't real.

>>37668867
>>37668853
>>37668851
>>37668833
>>37668821
>>37668810
>>37668780
>>37668880
>May as well check it out.

>>37668823
>>37668815
>>37668790
>Not interested.

Hokay, back to writin'.

>>37668911
Arrows such as those used by the Northern Raiders, aye?

>>37668943
I say we ignore the fuck out of them.

Just get in, kill the dude, get out.

>>37668943
Or by Chryssa and the bandits we encountered after we looted the silver coins in that temple

>>37668971
Should we make it an official challenge? I love the idea of marching into this dudes town, challenging him publicly then trouncing him.

>>37669014
No, I think an ice spike is good enough.

>>37668943
What if we tried recruiting them?

>>37669014
No. Freezing his head is just fine.

>>37669014
>combat
>in banished quest
I bet we'll just kill him in stealth mode or something

>>37669035
>Not incinerating heretical raider scum

It's like you don't even want to fix the problem.
Or look like a even bigger dick guy in front of your son.

>>37669130
We don't care about the raiders.

We have too many sidequests already.

>>37669014
Read that as touching him and was about to agree with you. We don't need two towns after us for murder.

>>37669094
Probably. Although I'd prefer to face him, say a few words to him ("Remember me, asshole? Remember that you tried to kill me? Too bad, say hello to my little friend, magic") and then magic him to death. The idea with freezing his head is nice.

>>37669210
>murder
Its a barbarian society that thinks the strong do whatever they like. If anything they would try to make us take his home and job

>>37669215
>"Remember me, asshole? Remember that you tried to kill me? Too bad, say hello to my little friend, magic"
I'm not sure if you're serious about that dialogue but it's retarded

>>37669215
I'd rather play to Mik's passive aggressive stoic attitude in this regard.
Maybe freeze him into falling off a cliff, or something.

>>37669094

I really much prefer a strange idea that came into my head. Kill him with an ice dagger made to look like the marriage dagger. Get him drunk and help him walk home. Shiv him in a dark alley.

Seems like poetic justice since he got Chrys drunk then put his knife in her sheath.

>>37669298
How about we just kill him by flash freezing his head from a medium distance away.

Simple and easy and no way he'll survive.

>>37669298
Enchant something with Create+Stone+Large and drop a cliff onto him.

>>37669316
He's not worth the effort. Let's just kill him.

Or we could just use light manipulation to help us snipe him.

>>37669375
>Magnification Aided Ice Lance of the Heavens
Alright.

You step closer, leaning in to inspect each shield. You find it a bit odd, that the shield with the terrifying face predicts the next move of one's opponent while the sleek, professional looking shield terrifies its enemies. You're not entirely sure what to make of it. “How much does each cost?”

The man sets them down carefully on the floor behind his counter. “For the Shield of Aix, two thousand silver. For the Shield of Leleki, eight hundred silver.” You do some quick mental arithmetic to convert those numbers into gold. The Shield of Aix is about one hundred thirty-three gold and five silver. Where as the Shield of Leleki is about fifty three gold and five silver.

That in mind, you stand up and adopt a look of careful contemplation while reaching out to Profectus via the brooches. {Have you ever heard the names Aix and Leleki? I want to make sure this merchant isn't feeding me a line of bullshit.}

There is a brief pause before he responds. {Actually, yeah. Yeah I kind of do. I think they were the gods of the common folk. You know, farmers and woodsmen and miners and such. They were part of that pantheon at least. I was City-Born, so I never really paid much attention to them. Our gods were Niki, Ora, Mageia, Choros, Moira, Entropia, and Logiki.}

{Anyway, I think Leleki was the vasilias of the rural pantheon, he had the ability to see into the minds of men and predict the future. Then Aix had the ability to instill fear and wonder into the minds of others. They were pretty important, if I recall correctly.}

You glance up at the old man. He's merely fiddling with a bauble on his desk, some sort of pendulum clock. You wonder if he's made a mistake, or if he's trying to intentionally mislead you. Then again, what if he's telling the truth?

(1/2)

>>37669399
Actually did we ever learn that magnification technique using fire that we talked about forever ago in the temple?

>>37669375
Or just kill him normally.

He's not worth Miks time or our time for anything special. Quick and clean so we can move on.

{I think this vendor may have made a mistake then. He told me the Shield of Aix allows one to predict the future and siezes control of the wielder's arm to block attacks on its own. Meanwhile the Shield of Leleki was said to instill terror in the hearts of one's enemies. The former was a hundred and thirty-three gold. The latter only fifty three.}

Profectus sounds hesitant when he replies. {Well... if he's telling the truth, I'd say spring for the Shield of Aix. If he's mistaken, snatch the Shield of Leleki.}

>Ask to try out the shields.
>Point out the error, see if he corrects himself.
>Buy the Shield of Leleki, he probably made a mistake and you'll get it for a steal.
>Buy the Shield of Aix, you're probably just getting ahead of yourself. He seems to know his stuff.

>>37669329
The body has to be recognizable.

>>37669316
There should be absolutely no connection pointing towards Chrys.

>>37669449
>>Ask to try out the shields.

>>37669431
Nope. We'd still have to try it.
In addition to attempting to combine that with long range ice lancing.
It'd probably take a bit.

>>37669449
>Ask to try out the shields.

>>37669449
>>Ask to try out the shields.
Never buy without being 100% sure of what you are getting.

>>37669453
I'm pretty sure by the time someone finds the dagger that thing is going to be melted beyond notice but w/e. If you don't think killing him with it is safe I still suggest getting him drunk. Then freezing his heart. Then leaving him in an alley with bottle of booze in hand.

>>37669449
>Ask to try out the shields.

>>37669449
>Ask to try out the shields.
I hope this isn't one of those fucking left X tells the truth, right X says the other one lies riddles.

>>37669453
Why does the body have to be recognizable?

>>37669532
I like that idea. No autopsy so noone will know that's pretty good.

>>37669532
How about we just show up and freeze his head?

Simple, quick, he wont survive.

And we're gone and on our way before we get tangled up in anything.

>>37669551
So they can release Chryssa off her marital vows

>>37669585
>Inbe4 I said body, not head ect

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>>37669375
>>37669431
I gave a few thoughts about our plan to replicate magnification, both the microscopic and telescopic variety, with magic. The problem of course is that the eye is not able to discern things that are too far away of too small because the eye's angular resolution is limited. Mik with his limited knowledge of physics doesn't know this, SK might. But Mik knows that something is not visible to him because it is "too far away" or "too small". When he meditates on magic sight, he might find two possible solutions. I'll start with telescopic sight first:
A: Mik (a) sees a mountain in the distance, with something on it (b). That something is visible only as a small dot to him. Is it a bandit? A bag of gold? Al-Ghasreed patiently waiting for him? He needs to know.
B: Mik realizes that the mountain is "too far away" from his eyes. With his magic, he creates a "virtual eye" (c) that is much nearer to the mountain. He more or less simulates standing next to the mountain and looking at the mountain from closeby. This would be similar to a remotely controlled camera (e.g. a hacked webcam).
C: Mik realizes that the mountain is "too small" in his field of vision. With his magic, he bends the light reflected from the mountain in a curve so that it appears like a large virtual copy of the mountain (d) right next to him. He can then look at that picture. This is more or less like a huge zoom lens that refracts the light and magnifies it at the same time.

With the same principles, Mik can replicate microscopic sight:
D: Mik (a) sees something small (e). He wants to take a closer look at it, because it might be a ring with tiny runes that recover sanity.
E: Mik realizes that his eyes are too large. With his magic, he creates a "virtual eye" (c) that is right next to the tiny thing.
F: Mik realizes that the tiny thing is "too small" for him to look at. With his magic, he bends the light so that he can look at a magnified
virtual copy of the thing (f)

>Try that shit out.

>>37669576

Whats a more honorable way to die? Death by obvious murder or death by the bottle? I want this man to have no honor in his death so I don't want others to think he was important enough to kill, thus the freezing his heart and leaving him in a puddle of his own feces reeking of alcohol with a bottle in hand.

>>37669631
It's simply about taking the picture and making it larger.

Pretty easy

>>37669670
>Whats a more honorable way to die?
Who gives shit?

We give no shits about this guy other than he dies. we don't care how.

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>>37669631
>Al-Ghasreed patiently waiting for him? He needs to know.
...

>>37669631
It's not actually that hard. It's a single meditation.

>>37669702

I don't care too much about your opinion right now. In the end we will found out how many people do "give a shit" when we actually do the voting to kill him in a few threads. Until then you have made your point that we have nothing to discuss.

So can we all agree that an All Vatis Party would be the best spread of classes if Banished was an actual RPG?
>Metal Vatis tank
>Fire Vatis glass cannon
>Water Vatis healer
>Nature Vatis scout/ranger
>Earth Vatis debuffer.

>>37669672
Yeah, but "make the picture larger" is easier said than done. What exactly is a picture when you talk about the eye? That's why I showed HOW it might be done.

>>37669717
Just take it as a fluff write-in for a meditation bonus.

>>37669839
And they all need to have combat training of some sort.

>>37669856
We've already made pictures larger and smaller when we experimented with distortion during our illusion meditations.

It's just a simple expansion of that idea into greater and greater distances. Or smaller and smaller distances, as you suggested.

>>37669839
It'd depend on how long Vys would last you through an area, and how easily you could regain it.

In the end, you decide the risk isn't worth it. You'll just need to try out one of the shields to see what it does. You host a brief mental debate with yourself about whether to try the Shield of Aix or the Shield of Leleki. In the end, you decide on the Shield of Leleki. “Can I try out the Shield of Leleki? I have a theory I'd like to test.”

The man nods and reaches beneath the counter, drawing out the shield with the crane, or stork, or whatever it is on it. He passes it across the counter to you. It takes you a little bit to figure out how it straps onto your arm but eventually you figure it out and let your arm hang loosely at your side. It strains your shoulder, but not terribly. It's a heavy shield though. “Alright, throw something at me. Attack me. What have you.”

The old man seems hesitant, but does as you ask. A weak jet of flame ushers forth from one of his fingers. You raise your shield and angle it down so it's deflected away from you and instead is simply snuffed out before hitting the floor. You sigh. “No, I mean really atta-”

Your arm is practically jerked out of its socket as it spins you around to deflect the oncoming axe blade of the guard. There's a deafening clang as the edge of his weapon strikes the metal of the shield, bouncing off and throwing him off balance. You find yourself surging forward, driving your shield into his chest and knocking him flat. It's all you can do to prevent yourself from raising the shield up and bringing the edge down on his throat.

Well, that seems to prove your theory.

(1/2)

The masked figure sighs, cursing under his breath in a language you don't recognize. “My dearest apologies oh valued customer, I seem to have switched the effects of the artifacts. In my advanced age my senses have started to leave me. I'd barely remember my own head if it wasn't usually attached. You'll have to excuse me, I feel I must alter my pricing. Two thousand silver for the shield- no, I made a dire error. Fifteen hundred silver for the Shield of Leleki. Five hundred silver for the Shield of Aix.”

>You'll take the Shield of Leleki.
>Shield of Aix, which must inspire terror in its enemies.
>Write-in

Rolled 3, 9, 10 = 22 (3d10)

>>37670006
>You'll take the Shield of Leleki.

Roll for haggling?

>>37669983
Buy Leleki. begin haggling

Axis is shity

>>37670006
>You'll take the Shield of Leleki.

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>>37670006
>Write-in
His head is 'usually' attached?
Only usually?

>>37670006
>ask prof if he is okay with a shield jerking him around instead of following him.

>>37670006
Both.
Seriously the scary shield would go really well with our whole "I am fucking satan, here look at my tentacles." vibe.
And prof needs a shield too

Rolled 8, 5, 5 = 18 (3d10)

>>37670030
>>37670029
Actually, we should wait until we get all the stuff so we can get a bulk discount.

>>37670029
Yeah, you can go ahead and roll. 3d10+6
I'll be nice and take this as the first roll.

Rolled 2, 9, 9 + 6 = 26 (3d10 + 6)

>>37670064

>>37670043
Don't question it, any old merchant in the Vatis district has probably lost their head once or twice.

>>37670006
>You'll HAGGLE for the Shield of Leleki.

>>37670060
We should.

Rolled 1, 6, 9 + 6 = 22 (3d10 + 6)

>>37670064
Neat. Thanks Soma.

>>37670006
>Write-in
Tell him we'll take the Shield of Leleki but we're not done shopping yet. We'll purchase everything at once.
GOTTA GET DAT DISCOUNT

Rolled 6, 8, 9 + 6 = 29 (3d10 + 6)

>>37670064

Rolled 5, 2, 7 + 6 = 20 (3d10 + 6)

>>37670006

Rolled 4, 5, 2 = 11 (3d10)

>>37670006
>>37670064
>>You'll take the Shield of Leleki.
Heal the guard for added nicety bonus.

Rolled 10, 2, 8 + 6 = 26 (3d10 + 6)

>>37670064
lesse here

Rolled 7, 7, 4 + 6 = 24 (3d10 + 6)

>>37670064
Rollin to haggle

>>37670058
>Seriously the scary shield would go really well with our whole "I am fucking satan, here look at my tentacles." vibe.
Dont think we've ever gone for that vibe

Maybe the occasional intimidation but nothing much

>>37670090
>>37670060
>>37670086
>Buy in bulk

>>37670043
>Usually?

>>37670029
>>37670030
>>37670042
>>37670085
>Shield of Leleki

>>37670029
>>37670077
>>37670088
>28, 26, 22 vs DC 20
>Great Success!

>>37670113
Really? Maybe I'm just really reading too deep into it, but a lot of or "negotiating" has been scaring the shit out of the target, scared the guards with ice, woke up our sister with ricky, scared the cat with ricky, threatened the guard(mundane intimidation but still), we use scaring people as a tactic a lot. Like really a lot.
but eh whatever. We don't NEED the sheild
even though you faggots wouldn't shut up about getting a shield before

>>37670179
>woke up our sister with ricky
We woke her up with our oud

and intimidation is the easiest and most useful haggling tactic.

Did I mention how easy it is?

most of it isn't even our choice but it's us rolling a success and Soma just putting it in there.

The shield is for Prof.

>>37670179
>threatened the guard
Merchant*
this was referring to when we were in namek