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>>37686014

> [[ Underground: Averron City – Central District // Neutral Territory // PVP Enabled ]]

The header appears as you enter the city, and a welcoming chime indicates you've gained a level. Discovery EXP, most likely. You'll check your UI when you get a spare moment.

“Welcome.” There's a pike-wielding man at the pillars that mark the city entrance, with a UI about his waist—a player. “New arrival?”

You nod. Beyond the entrance, you can see lanterns strung between the metal buildings flanking the sidewalks, and hear the chatter of people on the streets. There's a lot of players, more than you can count, and you can see more in the windows of houses and standing over the tables of market stalls.

Behind you, a few other players are stumbling toward the city. Some of look about as lost as you do, obviously new; you wonder if they had a welcome wagon as warm as yours. Among the group, you spy a few nameless; your hand eases around the hilt of your sword, still warm from earlier use. “This is Averron, huh? Anything I should know before I go in?”

“Nothing you won't find out before long. The market square is on that side of town, and player housing is to the north, if you can afford it.” He leans back, sitting on a pile of wooden crates. “We use the tavern as sort of a quest hub, if you're ever at a loss of things to do; mostly, everyone's trying to get to the surface, but there's plenty of stuff that can help further below. I'd suggest joining a guild, or finding a party. Some of the top ones so far are recruiting.”

> “A guild? Any suggestions?”
> “Are the nameless a problem here?”
> “What's down below?”
> “Are there NPCs? Where does the money for housing go?”
> “Why do you do this?”
> “Thanks. Nice meeting you.” Proceed into Averron City.
> Other.

>>37686056
>“Are the nameless a problem here?”

>>37686056
> “A guild? Any suggestions?”

>>37686056
> “A guild? Any suggestions?”
> “Are the nameless a problem here?”
> “What's down below?”
> “Are there NPCs? Where does the money for housing go?”
> “Why do you do this?”
> “Thanks. Nice meeting you.” Proceed into Averron City.

Info dump plz.

>>37686056
>Are the nameless a problem here?”
I want form our own guild.

>>37686056
>“A guild? Any suggestions?”

>>37686342
Forgot to add this.
> “What's down below?”
> “Are there NPCs? Where does the money for housing go?”
> “Why do you do this?”

>>37686373
>>37686342
I'd rather join one, we don't know enough about this game to lead a guild.

>>37686419
>not wanting to start from the bottom and work our way up
I might be a bit bias, since I used to start guilds with friends, and the game is early enough that nothing is too big or picky.

>>37686619
is it? From the sound of it, people are already days ahead of us. Are they all beta players?

Honestly we don't even have to join a big guild. Would be nice to hear who to look out for though and see what the difference between us all is

>>37686056
>>37686267
This

>>37686267
Long post incoming.

>>37686810
I'm okay with checking out who is standing out.
>>37686682
The nameless and why they become that would be more well known, my guess is that the game is either a week or few days old.

>>37686682
Would be to bad to join a big should be more information to share.
But some guilds are useless. better to have quality contacts instead of 100 useless ones.

>>37687859
....what? Say again?

>>37686056

“Guild, huh?” You ask. “Got any suggestions?”

“Everyone is still basically new to the game, so there's a lot of people jumping on the bandwagon. I don't get it, myself—it takes quite a few creds to start a guild, and most of 'em are going to fizzle out soon. You can't start one without five charter members, and the majority of the ones running around don't have more than eight total.” He shrugs. “There's no real leadership. Players die, there's conflicts of interest. Everyone wants to get their names out, but nothing gets done?”

“Which ones are the largest?” You ask. The group of newbies behind you is starting to crowd a little ways back, listening intently.

“The alliance surrounding Averron City is made up of three guilds. To my understanding, Disposable Heroes is leading by numbers. I'm pretty sure the name was supposed to be a joke, but so far they've been pretty good at galvanizing suicidal charges toward a unified purpose. Their officers are pretty chill, though—you'll probably run into Andor, who's sort of a personality around town. You won't get that tight-knit feeling with them, but if you join up, you'll never have a hard time finding a party.”

He continues. “Right behind them is the Writ Keepers, but they're mostly crafters and Artificers. I've heard they're really into roleplaying—moreso than everyone else, anyway, cause it's kind of hard not to roleplay in a game like this. The Crimson Guardians are in third. They've got some of the highest level players in the game so far, and they usually keep to themselves and party privately; I've been told they actually have an application process! Their leader handles all of their negotiations, and she is a /notorious/ hardass. There's a lot of smaller guilds that are pretty friendly, too. You might like that. I'd check the tavern for recruiters, or try and start your own if you think you've got the sway.”

> [[ 1/4 ]]

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>>37687960

“I see. What about the nameless?” A bit of nervous shuffling from behind you; you're still gripping your weapon, ready to lash out with a spinning strike. “Are they a problem here?”

“We keep it under control. Members of the alliance ensure that this territory stays neutral, and that there's no fighting inside the city. There's some sizeable guilds that aren't part of the alliance, though; Freakshow is getting bigger every minute. Most of their recruits are pissed off nameless, and there's accusations of them just being an organized PK guild. The rest of the Averron Guard keeps a good handle on the place, but I'd be careful.” He folds his arms, and looks at the group over your shoulder. “That means all of you. Don't wander about the warehouse district alone. Averron isn't that big of a city, but it's still easy to get lost. Got that?”

“Mhm. Do the guilds have halls? What about player housing—you said it's expensive, right? Where does the money go?” You ask.

“Guild Halls are near the housing district. Everything over there is a safe haven of sorts. You can't bust into houses uninvited, and PVP is disabled inside; it's only like that in houses and dungeons, that we've seen so far.” He says. “If one of the guilds took this territory, they'd reap all the rent from housing and decide how high the tax is; as it is now, they've set up an agreement to split it between themselves and put it towards the effort to reach the surface.”

“My ass.” A roguish character pipes up from behind you. He's got a hooded cloak, leather gauntlets, and boots of some sort of reptile's skin; he's slouched a bit, and his features are softly carved, a bit feminine. “Like they're not skimming half off the top? Have you /seen/ the Guardians' leader?”

“We've no reason to disbelieve them.” The guardsman responds. “And as a member of the Averron Guard, I've a personal responsibility to trust the current ruling powers.”

> [[ 2/4 ]]

>>37688031

“So, are there NPCs?” You ask.

“Few. You'll recognize them, as they're humanoid, but not human.” The guardsman nods. “They handle all of the activities that are true cred-sinks, like starting guilds and purchasing food and starter gear. There's also some quest-givers; all the NPCs seem killable, but we're abiding by a policy not to. They've got enormous HP totals, and we haven't determined whether or not they're a renewable resource.”

“I see. What's down below?” You ask. “Dungeons?”

“Something like that.” He says. “I've been down once or twice—there's cave systems populated with monsters, as well as a bunch of lost city, temple-esque stuff. The Writ Keepers have a thread up on one of the message boards theorizing that all of this is a lower stratum, a world that sank from up above, but there's no way to know without exploring more down there. Dont go too deep alone.”

> [[ 3/4 ]]

>>37688096

“Alright, then. One more thing. The Averron Guard is a guild, then—and you just guard this city? Why's that?” You ask. “Aren't there better things to do than sit here?”

“Mm, I guess. But it's relaxing, and the alliance members pay us well. This game is amazing, no matter what you're doing. Everything here feels real enough to mean something. And it's good experience, when a nameless goes rogue or a monster strays too close to the town.” He responds, then laughs. “That all the questions?”

“Yeah, sorry. Just trying to get a handle on the state of things. It's been nice meeting you.” You nod. “Thanks for the help.”

“No problem! One of us will be here if you need anything.” He waves you off, and you proceed into Averron. You pass under lanterns, and into the city streets; players wave you and other newcomers toward market stalls, boasting weapons and armor, bows and arrows. There's a fountain in the center of the city with a beautiful-looking statue, and plenty of people are crowding around it.

“Man, don't you just hate those guys?” The hooded character from a moment ago deliberately runs to your side to catch up to you. “This is a fuckin' game! We should be able to do whatever we want! Right?”

[[ 1 ]]
> “I agree. Are you new?”
> “I suppose. Are you new?”
> “Do you have a problem with authority?”
> Don't respond.

[[ 2 ]]
> Head to the city square.
> Head to the market stalls.
> Head to the tavern.
> Investigate the housing district.
> Investigate the warehouse district.
> Other.

>>37688124
>> “I suppose. Are you new?”
> Head to the market stalls.

>>37688124
>“I suppose. Are you new?”
>Head to the tavern.

>>37688124
> “Do you have a problem with authority?”
> Head to the tavern.

>>37688124
> “I suppose. Are you new?
> Head to the tavern.

>>37688124
>“Do you have a problem with authority?”
> Head to the tavern.

Well if we want to join a guild, Writ Keepers seems to be great, I remember Anons talking about specializing into a tecknight

>>37688124
> “I suppose. Are you new?”
> Head to the tavern.
See what quests we can get before buying stuff.

>>37688124
>“Do you have a problem with authority?”
> Head to the tavern.

>>37688124
>“I suppose. Are you new?”
> Head to the tavern.
>>37688371
Might not take us since we aren't a techy.

>>37688124
>“I suppose. Are you new?”
>Head to the tavern.

>>37688371
>Crimson Guardians
Sound bad ass. People we can count on in a bind, and should have some weight to throw around.
I do think we should befriend a Artificer or something. To craft us a nice weapon and we upgrade it and so on.

>>37688124
>[[ 1 ]]
"Freedom of choice works both ways. I don't see why you think they shouldn't be allowed to make a guard rotation. It's not like they're hacking the game engine to enforce the laws for them."

>[[ 2 ]]
> Head to the tavern.

>>37688124
>“I suppose. Are you new?”
> Head to the tavern.

Guild-wise I vote give the Crimson Guardians a shot once we're a bit steadier on our feet and know how everything works a bit better. Seems like they'd be up our street with the whole surprisingly capable at combat thing.

Not so keen on Writ Keepers, I don't see the need to pick an extra roleplayey guild when we can just roleplay as much as we want anyway.

For now I reckon just find some other low level players to party up at the tavern or something and get an idea of how the interfaces, mechanics, etc all work out.

>>37688508
well we already got a start with that with Smith

>>37688124
> I suppose.
> Head to the market.

Also, for our XP, I honestly think we should increase HP. Someone has already been able to deal a quarter of our HP in damage -- that's cutting it a bit close, in my book. I'd rather be able to have us take a blow and keep fighting, you know?

>>37688553
* Artificer: Artificers are named for their ability to infuse weapons and armor with energy. They are a supportive archetype that can harness elemental abilities, as well as make powerful equipment to be used by themselves or others.
* Technician: The Technician is a supportive archetype that can create a variety of machines to serve in and out of combat. Dedicated Technicians can maximize the effectiveness of their abilities by choosing from one of a number of specializations.
Technicians not the same as artificer. I mean I am cool with just buying a weapon. And having npc's do it. but I think long run a player may provide us "small" bonuses that might add up. as they upgrade it.
that's assuming a lot though.
>>37688649
I think we'd be better increasing our mastery to get a skill instead.
I say offensive and get abilities that will let us destroy enemies before they can score hits.
Like what we did in our first battle.
Also armor should help with that.
But since we're going to a tavern anyway. We should talk to a brawler and figure out recommendations.

>>37688649
>increasing HP
Bad idea in my opinion, but it depends on what type of warrior and what sub class we want to be.
If you want to be a tank sure pump HP, but i doubt people would want to be one, when we picked brawler and are planning on picking a techy as a secondary.

Oh boy, it's time for communist revolution quest!

>>37688718
>Artificer: Magic weapons and gear
>Technician: Technological weapons and gear
Pretty simple

>>37688736
Tank is actually HP+agility i believe, but i might be wrong.

>>37688740
Communism would be even worse here than in real life. You can't get to the surface without a UI.

>>37688124

“I suppose.” You shrug, continuing in the direction of the tavern.

“Nngh. You don't think so?” He groans.

“I don't see why you think they shouldn't be allowed to make a guard rotation.”

“Eh, it's not /just/ them. All the guilds that are already on top—they're acting like they own the world cause they're just a little ahead.”

“They seem to be doing alright so far. I imagine there's a lot of gossip, but I don't have any reason to disbelieve either.” You recall what the guardsman said; so far, the goal of this game seems to be to reach the surface, and that's not something it sounds like any player can do alone. “Are you new?”

“Yeah. I just finished my first dungeon run. Some sweet drops,” He gestures to his boots as the two of you approach the tavern exterior, “And crafting materials too. I dunno what to do with 'em yet. What about you? Liking the game so far?”

> “I just started.”
> “I killed three nameless that attacked me outside Averron.”
> Other.

>>37688873
>> “I just started.”

>>37688873
>"Got attacked by three players the moment I spawned but it's been a blast so far"

>>37688873
>“I killed three nameless that attacked me outside Averron."

>>37688873
>I just started.

>>37688873
"I killed three nameless that attacked me outside. I have no idea what the fuck was going on."

>>37688873
> “I just started.”
> “I killed three nameless that attacked me outside Averron.”

Kinda has me on guard.

>>37688873
>> “I just started.”

>>37688873
> “I just started.”
> “I killed three nameless that attacked me outside Averron.”

>>37688873
>“I just started.”


>>37688718
oh my bad, got the classes mixed up. It's possible he knows a few though, wouldn't hurt to ask if we don't find any in the inn.

>>37688873
> “I killed three nameless that attacked me outside Averron.”

>>37688736
>>37688718
I agree with you mostly, but I don't think we necessarily gain HP on a level up. Which means we're stuck at 24 until we put points into it.
>>37688873
Can you offer some info on how it works? Our sheet says level 2, but we haven't gained any HP, so I assume we have to spend XP.

>>37688873
>“I just started.”

>>37689068
> [[ Gaining HP or SP requires EXP investment. ]]

>>37688873
> “I just started.”
> “I killed three nameless that attacked me outside Averron.”

>>37689135
so exp taken away from leveling, or is that something we gain on leveling up?

>>37689219
Something we gain and can expend, I assume. It talks about spending it in the sheet, and we're up to one XP at level two.

>>37689244
Oh shit, didn't notice we had a char sheet, I'll read that over, sorry.

>>37689068
> [[ When spending EXP, you may perform any of the following actions: ]]
* Upgrade an available ability
* Upgrade an available skill
* Increase HP or SP
> [[ Increasing the levels of your Masteries will allow you to learn new abilities. ]]
> [[ At some Mastery levels, you may be offered a choice between multiple abilities depending on your specialization. ]]
> [[ You can't invest in a Secondary Archetype until a higher level. ]]
> [[ Increasing the level of a Weapon Skill will improve your damage and effectiveness with that weapon. ]]
> [[ Increasing the level of other skills will improve their effects. Untrained skills are hidden until used; crafting skills are hidden until learned. ]]
So what should we sell?
> Inventory [[ Ascheritte ]]
leather jerkin (worn)
loose cloth pants (worn)
heavy boots (worn)
scimitar (unidentified, wielded)
Unique Identifier: Ascheritte (worn, soulbound)
> Stored in [[ Unique Identifier: Ascheritte ]]
176 credits
heavy mining pick (unidentified)
scimitar (unidentified)
patched leather armor
leather pants
heavy boots
comfortable shirt
lesser healing potion
rucksack
Unique Identifier: Ajax (broken, in rucksack)
Unique Identifier: Circe (broken, in rucksack)
Unique Identifier: Elanna (broken, in rucksack)
Unique Identifier: Marcus (broken, in rucksack)
backpack
four-leaf clover (in backpack)
exploring gear, one use (in backpack)
herbs and poultices, one use (in backpack)
Lets check out
> [[ Contacts ]]
* Smith, a Technician;Apparently has a workshop in one of Averron's player housing districts.

>>37689595
we should switch the
loose cloth pants (worn)
heavy boots (worn)

for

leather pants
heavy boots

not sure if patched leather armor is good. I'm not sure if sleeping will heal us, so until we know I wouldn't use the poultices yet.

>>37689595
Everything we can't use, so pretty much all of it -- except the herbs, exploring gear, and the clover.

>>37689716
Why would we swap heavy boots for heavy boots?

>>37689763
One has a worn condition. Does that affect it's armor value?

>>37689805
It's literally just saying "this is what we have equipped".

>>37689805
Do our UI has its durability decreased now?

>>37689805
wait I just realized does that mean we're wearing it

>>37689831
yeah I see that now.

>>37688873

“I just started. Having a blast so far.” You say. “What was the dungeon like?”

“It was a branch of the ruins down below. They're pretty expanse; it was a close fight, but we managed to beat a boss. My party was great, too.” He smiles. “There was this girl, Circe. Total cutie—real scrapper. We split on the way up, but I'm really hoping to bump into her again in town.”

“Mm...” You grimace a bit. He seems so excited, you're not sure you have the heart to tell him. “That's great. I'll have to check it out myself soon.”

“You're heading to the right place, then. Looking for a party, or a guild?” He chuckles.

“Don't know. Little of both.” As you pass through the double-doors, the dark atmosphere gives way to a surprisingly home-like environment. There's quiet chatter from all about, though it's not as loud as it was outside. The place has a sort-of fantasy flair; there's a traditional bulletin board, and it looks like there's a few people seated at tables around the place, posting on the local message boards or making contact calls via UI.

There's a few shady types, posted up in the corners of the place: the usual fare. There's an NPC bartender—a raccoon-esque humanoid in studded leather—selling drinks from behind the counter, while a female character with long hair and maxed bust size is playing the role of tavern wench. A few people are investigating the bulletin board; there's a ragtag group at a nearby table, and a nearby girl in a form-fitting outfit appears to be explaining something to a small crowd.

“Yo, check it.” Your companion elbows you in the side, pointing to a heavily-armored lance wielder at the bar; he's wearing a tabard with a red insignia. “Guardian.”

What will you do?
> Other

>>37689881
Bulletin board.

>>37689881
> Go see what that girl is explaining, it might be important
> Then go up to the lancer and say you're new, ask for advice from what looks to you to be an experienced player.

>>37689881
> Go see what that girl is explaining, it might be important
> Then go up to the lancer and say you're new, ask for advice from what looks to you to be an experienced player.

Hit up the board afterwords.

>>37689964
sounds good.

>>37689881
>>37689964
This

>>37689881
> Go see what that girl is explaining, it might be important

Then go to the bulletin board afterwards

>>37689881
>>37689964
Pretty much this.

Guys what about going solo underground till we reach bottom?
Just exploring and gathering loot in all of these deep ruins full of exp

>>37690506
I dunno. I don't think going solo with our subpar gear and anons who apparently refuse to raise our HP is really conducive to this whole 'staying alive and not losing our UI' thing.

>>37690506
Because going full Kirito isn't actually a good way to play at all. It's vastly more efficient with allies.

>>37690506
Basically suicide, we are bound to both get attacked by monsters and nameless, plus we would need to get supplies.

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>>37689881

“I want to talk to that guy in a minute.” You respond to the kid. “Don't ruin it for me, alright?”

“No promises!” He laughs and runs off, bounding into the tavern and inserting himself into the middle of a crowd of strangers. You groan audibly, then make your way over to the girl. She's leaned up against the wall, a pair of goggles around her neck, and seems to be in a bit of a trance, thinking carefully about her words and pausing occasionally to sigh wistfully.

“Hence, we believe that the ruins beneath are part of an old city that was once on the surface of Sylvetica.” She says. “But it's difficult to believe with the structures of these caves the way they are. True, we've mined and excavated much of this place already—but that's only expounded on existing structure. There's no way all of these caves could be natural, the way the bridges have been built.”

“Or, it could, if a boon from the Celestials counts.” A robed man adjacent to her chimes in—you notice that the rest of the group isn't contributing, so much as listening intently. “We can't discount the religion of the old Sylveticans, and the Materialization Altar in the town square proves that those gods are very real, and are very willing to cause tangible effects in our world.”

“Only one Celestial Artifact has been created in Averron, though.” The girl responds. “Two, if you count the city itself.”

“Is that not enough?”

> [[ 1/2 ]]

>>37690623
We could probably get supplies from monsters
And even get better gear if we split into one of crafting classes
And if we won't do this what about making home in some semi-secret place so we won't have to pay taxes?

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>>37690754

“It isn't.” She shakes her head. “We don't know enough, not nearly. There are rumors of Celestial items in other cities, but they're spoken only in whispers. The Unique Interface can only access local message boards, though I've been digging at a way to amplify the signal.”

Roleplayers—no, Writ Keepers. Damn, that guardsman wasn't joking.

“If we could find further evidence underground—a place of worship, or perhaps another Altar.” The robed man says. “Celestial Gems, even. Do you think it would tell us what we need to know?”

“At least, it would give us an advantage over the competition.” She grins, then turns toward you; the rest of the crowd follows her gaze, as she continues. “You're awfully quiet, newblood. Just here to appreciate the scenery?”

> Make a dismissing comment, and continue listening.
> Make a dismissing comment, and go see what the Crimson Guardian is up to
> Reply, and check out the bulletin board while you listen.
> Reply in kind—and really try to put it on.

>>37690764
Cost vs effort. Depends on what benefits a secret based would confer and whether the effort of keeping it secret outweighs the tax.

>>37690820
>Reply, and check out the bulletin board while you listen.

>>37690820
> Reply, and check out the bulletin board while you listen.
Learning while I look around.

>>37690820
> Jovially reply, "Pretty much. Just got here and I haven't a fucking clue what's going on."
> Beam a smile

>>37690820
>> Reply, and check out the bulletin board while you listen.

>>37690820
>Reply, and check out the bulletin board while you listen.

>>37690820
> Reply, and check out the bulletin board while you listen.

Half of me wants to dismiss her and the other half wants to learn more/not piss her off.

>>37690820
So you guys are hiring people to help with exploring these places?

>>37690820
>Reply, and check out the bulletin board while you listen.
Jesus they are on the deep end of roleplaying here.

>>37690902
She's a cute Rikku look alike, we must strive not to piss her off!

>>37690935
Exactly. But i'm not particularly interested in RPing with her and her group. But like I said I don't wanna piss her off.

>>37690926
Maybe there are bonuses for roleplaying?

>>37690985
Well she's probably an important figure in that group if she's doing talks like this and their group is probably going to be integral to getting a sound source of information about this place.

I have a feeling that we may well be having a lot to do with her in the time to come

>>37691004
I doubt it.

>>37691004
Will probably help with getting info, no clue about other stuff though.

Guys I think I've come up with a master plan

Level up -> Do stuff -> Become Tech Knight -> Begin stirring up Nameless -> Do stuff -> Start and lead a Nameless revolution -> Do stuff -> Kill everybody -> ??? -> Profit and make it to the surface

>>37691220
>Nameless revolution
This is still a terrible idea.

>>37691220
We're not starting any retarded revolution, jesus christ. What the fuck are they gonna revolt against?

>>37691220
>trying to help the nameless
Nigga soon enough it would be us who would need help against them, unless we lose our id they will back stab us, just so that they can get an ID.

>>37691220
Here's a better plan
Get a mighty axe -> travel the land bringing the power of rock to the people -> Master music based brawling -> form a band of like minded individuals -> Master music so powerful that it can alter the world then punch stuff with it

>>37691307
But we already have Quest Quest for that.

>>37691361
well damn plan b then
Level up -> find something big and dangerous like a big ass fire elemental -> become a cleric of it spreading the gospel of destruction -> make the entity more powerful by feeding it powerful items as holy sacrifices -> get others to join our cult

and praise Ragnaros

>>37691442
>Technoknight powered by an ancient elemental

I can dig it.

>>37691442
This is actually pretty good idea
All we need to do is to find something big that can think or grow stronger without attacking us
Or we can always go with worship of great devourer or something

>>37691442
I'm game.

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>>37691480
Cleric or knight doesn't matter as long as we use a nice bludgeoning weapon imbued with it's power.

I love me some bashing weapons, no finesse or subtlety just force

>>37691442
How about... we find out what's going on in general first? Before we start making arbitrary long term plans?

Also, big and dangerous entity that can think independently... Are you assuming AI or a member of game staff or what?

>>37691269
I dunno anon.
Maybe direct their anger against other players as a ploy to get to the top and become a major player in the world. They're poor players who feel like they should get better. Rile up their emotions, and direct the angry mob against other people.
And even if we fail we still get known, probably get a name for us in the lore as well for performing THE UPRISING

>>37691604
I just want to turn an intelligent magical monster into an end game raid boss tier monster is that so bad?

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>>37691585
Can we at least have a tasteful looking bash weapon if we doing that? That mace looks like shit.

I'd rather a larger weapon like a pollaxe than a single handed one mind you.

>>37691606
There's no non-meta reason to consider that though.

>>37691585
>already have 1 point in saber
> [[ Skills ]]
Unarmed 1
Sabres 1
Offensive Mastery 0
Movement Mastery 0
Defensive Mastery 0
Also reminder putting point in mastery unlocks abilities, putting points in skills improves damage, and putting points in abilities unlocks extra shit/damage for it.

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>>37690820

“Something like that.” You cut her a sly look. “We'll say I'm a bit overwhelmed and leave it at that.”

“Mm...” She nods. “Fair enough.”

“My apologies on her behalf.” The robed man smiles at you. His avatar is greying, but his posture stout and somewhat commanding; there's a strange sort of reality to him that you didn't get even from Smith. “She makes a habit of putting others on the spot. I think she enjoys it.”

“It's alright.” You respond, this conversation now taking a backseat to the bulletin board adjacent to you. “I really don't mind.”

There's a few groups looking for members that are meeting around the city right now; a few in and around the tavern, while others choosing the city square or player houses as rendezvous points. Some of them are simply looking for additional security while hunting monsters; others are planning on going a little bit lower to the deep caves and ruins below. There's also a number of individual advertisements; a few people looking for skilled Technicians and Artificers, and others looking for additional charter members for their guilds. Maybe you could get in on something new!

> [[ 1/2 ]]

>>37691725

There's also a couple of recruitment messages. A few from smaller guilds looking for members; the advertisements seem awfully cozy. Disposable Heroes is taking members of all levels and classes, and you recall what the guardsman said about guaranteed parties. There's information on the Crimson Guardians, who are recruiting none but the most capable; it looks like you've got to go to their guild hall to apply. The Writ Keepers have their ad really done up, written in calligraphy on paper that looks like it was rubbed in dirt and burned at the edges—it's got the location of their guild hall, and merely says to talk to 'Ayla' or an officer about recruitment.

A glance over your shoulder reveals the Crimson Guardian is gone. Damnit! You wonder if that kid ran him off.

“...Which brings up the prospect of the Nameless.” You drift back into the conversation in time to catch the girl continuing. “Unfortunately, I've neither stumbled upon nor been able to formulate a theory I favor. The popular idea is that they were forsaken by the Celestials, deprived of their ability to be granted boons in the form of Celestial Artifacts, as well as of the ease our Identifiers and enhanced abilities grant us. But, this assumes that we are somehow favored...”

> Ask about the Celestial Artifact that was created in Averron.
> “Anyone know an 'Ayla'?”
> This is melting your brain. Go see the Materialization Altar yourself.
> Reunite with the rogue from before, then investigate one of the guilds or parties. (Write-in)
> Investigate one of the guilds or parties. (Write-in)

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>>37691220
>>37691442
>Nameless revolution
>Controlling a giant monster and leader of its cult
They're not mutually exclusive

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>>37691725
>Maybe you could get in on something new!
I can't tell you the number of times I've thought that very same thing.

>>37691781
But they are both retarded plans

>>37691764
QM getting food. Writing upon return.

>>37691764
>Ask about the Celestial Artifact that was created in Averron
>Reunite with the rogue from before, then investigate one of the guilds or parties. (Write-in)

>>37691764
> Reunite with the rogue from before, then investigate one of the guilds or parties

Find a party with him and go monster hunting a bit just enough to get weapons and armor

>>37691764
>Investigate the Crimson Guardians, they seem like the group that will get shit done.
>Ask the bartender for information.

>>37691792
Why are they retarded?
It's just planning big. Future goals.

>>37691764
Go meet find the rogue from before. What class is he, anyways? Go talk about joining up with the Guardians.

Also, I'm going to say that we just stick with sabers for now, until we find a bit more about it. On that note, let's start asking around and seeing what it takes to get our scimitar identified.

>>37691764
>Ask about the Celestial Artifact that was created in Averron.
>Investigate Crimson Guardians

>>37691764
>>Ask about the Celestial Artifact that was created in Averron.
>>Investigate Crimson Guardians

>>37691849
We already have a weapon, though, and before we go off fighting monsters for loot that they may or mat not have, we should sell our excess crap and see what we can buy.

>>37691764
>Write in reply to girl

"Or... perhaps they were deemed incapable due to their failures? Forgive me if I presume too much knowledge, but from what I've seen it appears that those who lose their Unique interfaces do so because they made some error of judgement or failed at some task."

"Could it be that the Clelestials only wish for the best of us to reach the surface?"

>>37691781
>controlling a giant monster
>everything has to be about control
>not just letting a monster do what monsters will while you gain from it's increasing strength
You are missing the point of feeding it power by like a mile

>>37691764
Also
Let's not try for the best unless we can find a way to prove ourselves going in with some kind of trophy
>Investigate Disposable heroes
they sound nice and suicidal

>>37691948
>they sound nice and suicidal
>in a game where once you die your UI breaks and the game gets significantly harder

M8 if you're gonna troll at least be subtle

>>37691944
I WANNA BE, THE VERY BEST

>>37691977
Their name is disposable heroes in a game with those downsides, I'm guessing they send the newbies in to certain death possibly for a chance at glory while the experienced guys are safe

>>37691948
Wouldn't the monster just eat you then

>>37691977
I think he was being sarcastic

>>37691948
it's like you don't into rpgs.

the monsters dont want to be our friends. they want to tear us limb from limb, and then eat our entrails.

>>37692001
"They presumably deliberately send the newbies to their death!"
"Which is why we should immediately go sign up with them having barely been in this game for an hour!"

Are you actually retarded?

>>37691764
>Ask about the Celestial Artifact that was created in Averron.
> Reunite with the rogue from before, then investigate one of the guilds or parties. (

>>37691993
LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS

>>37692048
Nah I just figure that would be the best trial by fire and the other two options are hardcore guild that probably wont let us in unless we prove ourselves and a hardcore rp guild

>>37692093
Can we at least try to get into the Crimson Guardians? If we fail the entrance exam than so be it.

>>37692093
So assuming we get turned away, we go train a bit til we fullfill requirements and then return to best their test.

You know, rather than strapping a bomb to our chest and scream Allah Ackbar.

>>37692142
It seems like their requirements are similar to the hard core guild, so a noobie like us would get denied.

>>37692180
Just use our MC powers.

>>37692243
If this is all that is required to join this guild I would rather join some small guild with actually skilled people

>>37692292
Agreed

>>37692292
"They let us in! Clearly this guild isn't good enough! We must find a small guild that's better than the one with the reputation as the best!"

>>37692331
Yeah but the best guild lacks the power of Nakama

>>37692349
So do the small ones, we haven't been here long enough to make ANY friends. What's to say that the big guild isn't structured into smaller groups of players that regularly team up? It's like, the power of nakama times the number of groups that all work together to form the whole guild! Marvellous!

>>37692292
We have MC powers AND /tg/ brand multiple personality disorder. We can be "actually skilled"

>>37692432
> MC powers

based on what? a beginning passive ability from our class?

>>37692465
I believe he was being glib but that aside there was the fact that we were remarked by the guy who helped us at the start that we were abnormally competent at fighting.

>>37692465
It's a joke

>>37691814

“Maybe they were deemed incapable.” You say.

“Uhm, what?” The girl cocks an eyebrow, and for a second, you'd swear she was about to break character.

“You know, by the, uh, Celestials.” You continue. “Forgive me if I'm presuming too much, but the Nameless I've encountered thus far all seem to have failed at some task.”

“Yes,” The greying man nods. “Error in judgment, or incompetence in battle, with death as the natural consequence. In death, you are denied your Unique Identifier. Of the things that separate us from them, we believe that is the most important.”

“Then, do you think the Celestials want only the most capable to reach the surface?” You ask—it's stupid, but you're kind of getting into this.

“My.” The girl smiles. “Where'd all of this come from?”

“I dunno. I just wanted to ask a question without interrupting.” You grin, and the crowd sighs. “You said there was a Celestial Artifact in Averron, correct? Do you guys know anything about it?”

“I've seen it.” A swordsman in the crowd responds, raising a hand. “Though, not used. It belongs to Liza, the leader of the Crimson Guardians. It's part of her armor, apparently—we don't know the details of how many Gems it cost to make and how many have been put into it altogether, but word is her guild is devoting a lot of resources to upgrading it with artifice, technology, and more Gems.”

“As well as creating more Artifacts, if rumors are to be believed.” The robed man adds.

> [[ 1/2 ]]

>>37692923

“Mm, right.” You say, breaking off from the group. “It's been nice talking to you guys, but I'm gonna get moving,”

The hooded kid from earlier runs into you, red-faced, a frothing mug in one pale-skinned hand.

“Heyo!” He laughs loudly. “What's up, my man?”

“Not much. Made some small talk while researching the goings-on.” You respond. “What about you? Got what you wanted?”

“Oh, hell yeah! Wait, wait, one second...” He awkwardly gropes at his waist before giggling a bit, realizing his Identifier is on the other side—then manages to key something in, eliciting a ping from your own UI.

> [[ Contact Request: Nel ]]

“There we go! I'll hit you up if one of us gets lost! How about it, blazer?” He giggles again, nuzzling against you amorously. “So, wanna lay the smackdown on those ruins? I was almost done getting a party together. I really want to find Circe, though... She's not cropping up anywhere. Maybe she went offline...”

“Yeah, maybe.”

[[ 1 ]]
> Agree with Nel. You're hungry for your first monster hunting experience.
> Decline. “Sorry, I'd like to get a little bit more done about town.”

[[ 2 ]]
> Ask Nel about one of the guilds.
> Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought.
> Other.

>>37692923
Let's steal the sword/Celestial Artifact

>>37692957
> Decline. “Sorry, I'd like to get a little bit more done about town, maybe later though."
>Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought

>>37692957
>Agree with Nel. You're hungry for your first monster hunting experience.
> Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought.

>>37692957
>Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought.
> Decline. “Sorry, I'd like to get a little bit more done about town.”

>>37692957
>Agree with Nel. You're hungry for your first monster hunting experience.
>Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought.

>>37692957
>> Agree with Nel. You're hungry for your first monster hunting experience.
> Ask Nel about one of the guilds.

>>37692970
Stealing the sword from one of the three most powerful guilds that exist in the game.
Stealing the sword that the leader of the most high leveled guild, wouldn't sit well with them. We would likely become nameless trying.
No thanks.

>>37693005
Wait.. While we're still here before we leave. I'd want to talk to them and see if one of them could give us some insight into the brawler class.
give us an idea of our ability what it does. and some general advice before we head out.

>>37692957
> Agree with Nel. You're hungry for your first monster hunting experience.

> Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought.

>>37693005
That's why we hide the sword after we steal it, and retrieve it later

>>37692957
> Decline. “Sorry, I'd like to get a little bit more done about town.”
> Ask Nel about one of the guilds.

Crimson Guardians

>>37692957
Let's consider this, he is a friend of Circe we killed Circe. I think telling him is a good way to make an enemy or he might already know and plan on screwing us over in the ruins

>Decline
Let's go sell our ill gotten loot and get some nicer gear first

>Ask Nel about the Disposable Heroes or those weirdo roleplayers.

we gotta find us some semi-permanent allies

>>37693005
>>37692970
Holy shit, can neither of you read? It's a part of her armor.

>>37692957
> Agree. We should rack up some XP and gear before trying to get in with a guild.
> Ask about the Crimson Guardians.

>>37693091
>Let's consider this, he is a friend of Circe we killed Circe
Wait, Circe was that chick at the start?

>>37693112
Apparently so. I mean, we have her busted ass UI, so.

>>37693138
The UIs you're carrying were found in the nameless brawler's backpack.

>>37693138
Ohshit, I totally didn't pay attention to the names on those.

Yeah... We should... probably NOT be left alone with the guy who wants to waifu our second kill.

>>37693098
Then let's steal the armor

>>37693112
>>37693091
Busted UI we found in the pack of the ginger kid nameless.
Girl we killed was not Circe.

>>37692957
> Decline. “Sorry, I'd like to get a little bit more done about town.”
> Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought.

>>37693138
>>37693173
She was one of the people the guys we killed ganked before us. They were all Nameless, so there's no way they would've dropped UIs.

>>37693170
>>37693173
Or, that said, Circe could be one of the kills of the guys we killed so... we should probably ask Nel what class she was.

>>37693170
Well shit I thought Circe was the girl we murderized. Letting him down softly is probably for the best changing >>37693091 to tell her

>>37693209
No, she couldn't be.
They were all Nameless.

>>37693191
How exactly do you intend to steal an item she physically wears on her body?

>>37693098
Which is why I said it's impossible.
>>37693191
no thanks.
>>37693216
>>37693191
Except she was when we're given an option like
>Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought

And seems like he likes her
“There was this girl, Circe. Total cutie—real scrapper. We split on the way up, but I'm really hoping to bump into her again in town.”

That would be best. If we explain the situation. Especially in a neutral position.
Changing to
>Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought

>>37693191
also
as better proof if thats not enough.
which isn't much of a strech.
>Unique Identifier: Circe (broken, in rucksack)
doubt they just happened to have that UI coincidentally.

>>37693288
Why would being nameless preclude them from having their old broken UI?

Indeed, I'm /pretty sure/ that the first nameless we saw was observed to be wearing a broken one.

>>37693290
Sneakily

>>37693322
Circe isn't the girl we killed. Her UI was in the ginger Nameless kid QM even says so. Get this through your head.

>>37693375
*was in the ginger Nameless kid's pack

So what about creating cult to great beast by posting on future /b/?
It would give us bunch of cultists
Even nameless ones would be useful in spreading glory of whatever it will be

>>37693375
>>Tell Nel about Circe and the Nameless you fought
>Circe and the Nameless you fought

>>37693375
True, but we don't know if the gunner gave her UI to the ginger. Did QM ever say it was on her person? I remember that the ginger had his broken one on his belt, don't remember anything on the girl Besides some people wanting to enslave her

>>37693503
Look
>>37693170

>>37693434
Yes, because the namless we fought had Circe's UI in his possession because he killed her, try to fucking read.

>>37693434
Dumbfuck
It's a combination of
>Tell Nel about Circe.
and
>Tell Nel about the Nameless you fought.
The subjects are only semi-related.
And from the QM at >>37693170
>The UIs you're carrying were found in the nameless brawler's backpack.

>>37693561
>>37693541
Makes sense. Guess I may have fucked up with that.
Just putting two and two together.
What are the chances of running into the namesless that killed a certain player specifically.
That player also so happens to be the same gender.
Also happens to be the same class.
Just saying it sounds like extraordinary chances of all that happening. But I admit I could have read that and interpreted it wrong.

>>37693644
>What are the chances of running into the namesless that killed a certain player specifically.
It's called a plot hook.

>>37693535
that doesn't answer my question. The Nameless gunner, called A for ease of posting, did not have a UI on her person. This leaves us with two possiblities
>1. A gave the other Nameless her UI
>2. A lost her UI somehow

Now, once we've established this, we can find out who the UI's belong to
>1. They are trophies, taken off killed players
>2. They are the party's UI's, however the number of UI's found disprove this
>3. They are a combination of the two, as A lacked one and the brawler had multiple

My question, rephrased, is whose UI's were?

>>37693722
>>37693644
>1. They are trophies, taken off killed players
You guys are reading too much into this.
Circe was not the Nameless girl.

why is qm so kill

>>37693853
QM ate something decidedly bad while AFK. Posting shortly.

>>37693853
Got offed by a Nameless. He'll come back and post as anon

>>37693918
I laughed quite heartily

>>37693879

“Nel, we'll definitely party up, but there's, uh. Something I gotta tell you.” You say, half-sitting, half-leaning on one of the sturdy tavern tables.

“Yeah? What's that?” He asks. “C'mooon, spit it out.”

“Alright, listen up. When I first started the game, I got attacked by three players. All Nameless.” You say. “And I had to kill them.”

“Hot damn, you beat three players at once in your first fight? No foolin'?” His eyes widen. “I've heard most of them were a bunch of player-killing bastards, but I'd never seen it myself. That's awesome, man! What's the deal, then?”

“I wasn't the first player they'd gone after. They'd killed others... and I think your friend Circe is...”

“No way!” He laughs, then the conversation stalls. “No way. Did I mention that she basically soloed that boss? I was on low health, so I was running like, the whole time. But she's...”

“They had a UI with that name on it.” You say. “I'm carrying it with me, as well as three others with the names of dead players. I don't know what to do with them.”

“...Oh.” Nel gives another nervous laugh, then sighs. “That's... alright, then.”

You frown—he looks pretty damn sad. “You gonna be okay?”

“Yeah, I'm fine. She was the first person I met in-game... I didn't expect.” He growls, then yells, eliciting a few stares. “Fuck this game! Top guilds acting like they control us, nameless assholes killing our fucking friends! Who EVEN can you trust? Why am I even this upset?”

> Make this right. “Let's find something to do with these Identifiers. Then, you can introduce me to the party.”
> Agree. It sucks, but there's nothing to do but move on, and avoid making the same mistakes.
> Other.

>>37693936
> Make this right. “Let's find something to do with these Identifiers. Then, you can introduce me to the party.”
Maybe those celestial whatevers can fix these?

>>37693936
>> Make this right. “Let's find something to do with these Identifiers. Then, you can introduce me to the party.”

make a bro out of him

>>37693936
"First person perspective and pain making you forgot that this is nothing more than game"
"Get a grip on yourself"

>>37693936
> Other.
> Make this right. “Let's find something to do with these Identifiers. Then, you can introduce me to the party.”

>>37693936
>Make this right. “Let's find something to do with these Identifiers. Then, you can introduce me to the party.”

>>37693936
>Make this right. “Let's find something to do with these Identifiers. Then, you can introduce me to the party.”
told you retards.

>>37693936
> Make this right. “Let's find something to do with these Identifiers. Then, you can introduce me to the party.”
And this >>37693976
Also
>More people prejudiced against the Nameless
All the more easier to get them to revolt.
And thanks for clarifying that Circe was not one of the Nameless.

>>37693936
> Agree. It sucks, but there's nothing to do but move on, and avoid making the same mistakes.

I don't want to party up with this guy. He's way to "Fuck the system" for me.

>>37694052
No God damn communist revolution! No one supports it, it's a silly idea that you continue to bring up for no reason, and(from a personal perspective) ya seem like a cunt

>>37694149
Alright, I'll stop.

>>37694052
fucking stop with your shitty ass idea holy shit

>>37693936
Also, we should consider trying to find Circe. According to the kid she was good enough to carry her own weight, and I want a closer look at what being a nameless entails without having to become one ourself

>>37693936

“It'll be alright.” You nod, planting a hand on his shoulder. “Let's find something to do with these Identifiers, okay? Then, you can introduce me to the party. Go ahead and organize a meeting, okay?”

“Yeah, okay. What do you want to do, then?” He asks, beginning to navigate menus on his UI. “Bury them, or something?”

“Thinking.”

> Head out to the caves, and find a nice-looking spot to leave them.
> Head to the town square, and investigate the crowd and the Materialization Altar.
> See if you can't sell them, or have them broken down for parts.
> Keep them for now. You'll make concessions for the dead some other time.

>>37694220
It'd be good to find out more information.
But I don't think it'd be worth the time to actively look for her.
We can't contact her.
She may have quit once she became nameless.
So looking for her once we get to other cities is cool. But as of now.. give her a BS funeral for rogue and be done with it for now.

>>37694273
> Head to the town square, and investigate the crowd and the Materialization Altar.
Maybe they can be fixed and no one's figured it out yet?

>>37694273
> Head to the town square, and investigate the crowd and the Materialization Altar.

>>37694273
>> Head to the town square, and investigate the crowd and the Materialization Altar.
>> See if you can't sell them, or have them broken down for parts.

>>37694273
>> Head to the town square, and investigate the crowd and the Materialization Altar.

>>37694273
>>37694305
This. See what setting them on the altar does.

>>37694273
> See if you can't sell them, or have them broken down for parts.
> Head to the town square, and investigate the crowd and the Materialization Altar.

Except for Circe's. Keep her UI for now

>>37694273
Waste not want not

Bury Circe's and see about looting the rest for parts

>>37694273
>Keep them for now. You'll make concessions for the dead some other time.
What if they can be fixed through some as yet unknown means? Or if they're of sentimental value to their namesake? I don't see why we'd bury them

>>37694273
> Keep them for now. You'll make concessions for the dead some other time.

>>37694355
for rogue. It would be like a funeral for his friend. Giving him closure of some kind. But wouldn't mind giving him circe's and selling the rest/tearing them for parts.

>>37694466
But... She's not /actually/ dead, she's just lost her UI. Hell, I see no reason she can't just meet up with us and play as normal unless she gets super bitter and jaded about it all

>Funeral for rogue
Goddamn this is one serious fuckin' MMO

>>37693936
>Keep them on you, hand them back out if you meet her.

>>37694273
>Head to the town square, and investigate the crowd and the Materialization Altar.

>>37694488
No way to message her, no way to locate her, for all he knows she might quit the game.
There is a decently high chance that he will never run across Circe again.

>>37694273
Could we try dual wielding?
unless anyone is blatantly against it.
Our other scimitar

>>37694540
I'm against it.

>>37694557
Why is that?

>>37694540
>>37694557
Even if people are against it I think it's worth trying, just to see if we can pull it off.
It's not something we should use in combat though, it'll get us killed if we aren't proficient.

Which is why people would be against it most likely

>>37694536
So what?
He needs to get over his oneitis

>>37694573
I'd rather be a tank

Not making any assumptions but there are a lot of unknowns in this game. There may be a way to repair a UI, though unlikely. If possible it'd definitely be through means of an artifact or a lot of resources like Celestial Gems. It may pay off to hold onto it if she is as strong as rogue guy says, might as well fix his girlfriend if we somehow find a way.

>>37694590
>>37694573
The only way would allow it, is if we got a dagger to be the second weapon, while the scimitar is the main.
That why we cover both slashing and piercing.

>>37694603
Man of African descent, we're in an MMO.
Emphasis on "Massively Multiplayer". It wouldn't matter if she still had her name, but she's Nameless now. Plus she's in a new character.
Gonna make it a little hard.

>>37694590
* Brawler: Brawlers specialize in close combat. They are masters of all melee weapons, as well as unarmed fighting.
It shouldn't be an issue so long as we can actually equip them.
It would be nice since.

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>>37694540
I would like to dual wield

in one arm a weapon and in the other a shield like a sane person

>>37694624
>fix his girlfriend if we somehow find a way.
I doubt they hit it off, most likely love struct.

>>37694540
>dual wielding
Nah
Dual-wielding is for rogues, Kirito-expies, and the "fast attacker" types.
One-handed or Two-handed would be more our style.

>>37694643
Wasn't it said that whatever character you died as is the look your stuck with as a nameless? No matter what you make, it would always be that one look when you're a nameless?

>>37694676
I was just joking, if anything it's a boyfriend.

>>37694713
I'm pretty sure it was just said that making a new character didn't let you regain your UI, I don't think there were restrictions on who character you used or indeed a prohibition on using your original character any more.

>>37694713
It would be tracked to the head gear, so its assumed if you get a new set and made a new account you would make a new character.
>>37694640
I'll second this, its far better than dual wielding scimitars.

>>37694640
Whats wrong with dual wielding two swords?
we should be as proficient.
>>37694671
>not wanting to be a badass like kirito
>>37694701
What style? We haven't spent a point towards anything. We picked up two weapons. and have only been using one.
Atleast for now we should try and put em on.
Since we don't have a shield or anything else.
unless you want to use the pick, which sounds bad

>>37694671
Or maybe two shields

>>37694764
>Thinking Kirito is a badass

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>>37694764
>a badass like kirito
Oh lawdy.

>>37694764
I'd rather use two shields

>>37694792
in fighting how is he not a badass?
>Being this retarded

>>37694764
God stop suggesting shitty ideas.

You have shit taste to compliment your worse ideas.

>>37694788
>>37694803
You my nigga

>>37694803
Gate crusher!

>>37694820
His sword skill was all because of his absurd stats. They even acknowledge this when he goes into the real world and gets shit on by his sister.

>>37694803
If we are going for tank sure, but we must pump up agility and HP first.

Finally caught up.

I would like to mention that RP guilds are usually legit as hell, since they actually take the time to figure out more about the world and what's going on, so they take the game relatively seriously. Plus, most of them aren't bad players, either. Not the best, but they're not bad, and they can be relatively inclusive when given the opportunity. If we're going for one of the big three guilds, I'd vote for the Writ Keepers.

>>37694832
Right after I posted that I read your spoiler and laughed.

>>37694803
>>37694788
THE WALL
THE WALL
NO MAN ON EARTH CAN MAKE IT FALL
Or also shields that can turn into a big sword

>>37694764
>not wanting to be a badass like kirito
Alright, nigger, you best be b8ing

>>37694860
The closest thing to 'agility' is movement mastery, and for a tank, it would be far better to focus on, y'know, the actual Defensive Mastery. That focuses on defense.

>>37694876
A greatshield with a cannon in it

>>37694764
You do know that most dual wielding weapons in real life are different lengths for a reason right?
thats why i suggested a dagger.

>>37694860
>http://pastebin.com/pZv3XUPQ
We'd do well to invest in the >Defensive Mastery skill

>>37694764
Well we apparently want to be a Techknight.
That doesn't really fit into the dual-wielder type.
>not wanting to be a badass like kirito
What the fuck are you saying

>>37694803
>>37694792
lol
>>37694823
>>37694876
was thinkning of Miyamoto Musashi from vaga bond.
But since Kiroto's name was thrown in just used him as a reference.
>>37694893
that is true. Don't know much about dual wielding. But you know it is a game, so some stuff might just go out the window.

>>37694882
It depends on what type of tank you want to be anon, the one i sometime plays at is the one that hardly gets hit, but when he does shrugs it off the damage, its also cheaper/less reliant on healing.

>>37694858
It's kinda the opposite really, when he gets beaten by his sis who's a super trained high competition kendo practitioner he actually surprises her with his competence after he uses the movements he got used to from the game.

Factor in the fact he's still recovering muscle mass from not having moved for two years.

You really can't say he got shat on.

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>>37694273

You drag Nel out of the tavern and through the crowds of people maneuvering through the stone streets, until you arrive at the town square.

There's an enormous fountain that seems to radiate a faint light throughout the square; in the center, is a statue that appears to have been carved out of a single massive opal. It depicts a girl, no older than seven or eight, shoulder-length hair perpetually blowing in a nonexistent breeze, head upturned, sightless marble eyes forever affixed on the heavens.

She holds an ornately carved bowl in her hands, arms outstretched, and three ascending stone steps in the fountain water allow individuals to approach—just that closely. The Celestial Materialization Altar.

Nearby, there seems to be a bit of an altercation underway; a proud-looking, rapier-wielding man standing at the fountain's edge and a group of his allies appear to be standing apart from a forming group of people without Identifiers. Nameless. You notice that the swordsman and his friends wear bands on their upper arms, bearing insignias of a gilded sword and shield.

“Disposable Heroes.” Nel says. “That's Andor, their second-in-command.”

“If you're really trying to help, why haven't you done anything about reviving us 'nameless'?” A man from the disgruntled crowd shouts, eliciting cheers from those around him. “Don't tell me there isn't a way! That's bullshit, and you know it!”

“There's a reason we get our reputation for being 'player-killers'.” A man in a leather skullcap wearing a huge onyx gauntlet emerges from the crowd of Nameless. You note his tabard: black, with a crudely-drawn image of a harlequin. Freakshow? He continues. “The Nameless will attack the Identified until you start doing something about it. We outnumber you, we outskill you, and we have less to lose.”

> [[ 1/2 ]]

>>37694922
no. we're going full on tech knight. that means a shield, probably a sword, and a sweet ass suit of armor.

plus, dodge tanks a shit.

>>37694903
>>37694882
Why not pump exp into both?
But than again we do need to be able to attack as well.

>>37694949

“Was that a confession, you ignorant bastard?” A hooded woman emerges from the crowd of Identified; she draws her broadsword, and flames form in her hand, snaking up the blade. “If you outskill us, you wouldn't be dead! And if you've got nothing to lose, then don't mind if I—”

“Yield!” Andor yells, leaping forward; he draws his rapier and leaves it at the woman's throat, a barrier between the two.

“We're doing our best. As of now, the neutrality policy has ensured fairness for all players.” Andor says. He sheathes his blade, using the fountain edge as a podium. “Both the Nameless and the Identified can go forward in this world, and even work together if they like. But there's so much we haven't explored, both above and below—and so much unexplored potential of the Celestial Gems, as well.”

“No one has said it isn't possible.” One of the Disposable Heroes' officers chimes in. “Which is why we're trying to get to the surface, to go forward and to cover as much ground as possible. We don't hate you. We're trying to find a way.”

What will you do?
> Talk to Andor
> Join the conversation.
> Investigate the Materialization Altar
> Other

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Woo Techknights

>>37694952
>being the bitch of the cleric
>wasting money on potions
But, i do think we need both defense and movement skills.

>>37694969
> Investigate the altar.

Try putting the broken UIs on it.

>>37694952
Screw tech knight Let's go dnd style cleric grab a mace and find some magic to call our own

>>37694969
> Investigate the Materialization Altar
Don't mind me guys.

>>37694969
>Investigate the Materialization Altar

>>37694999
no.

>>37694892
Like this?
http://youtu.be/ZxmYj5uQE08?t=31s

>>37694969
>> Investigate the Materialization Altar

>>37694999
Fuck that, I ain't playing no priest. Technoknights are cooler too.

>>37694969
> Investigate the Materialization Altar

>>37694969
>Investigate the Materialization Altar
>>37694988
Forgot to say that our main offensive capabilities will come from the tech we use.or we can go backwards and focus on offense, while we use tech as a defense.

>>37694988
1) There's no cleric/healer archetype.
2) Dodge tanks a shit

>>37695055
How about we just invest in our weapon skills/offensive mastery anyways, since we have absolutely no idea when we'll get to branch into our second archetype?

>>37695055
Some people want to go tank..
I agree with you. i we're going to do something we should focus on that.
We should choose something before we head out. And after we meet our party members see what we need.

>>37695054
>cleric and priests being the same thing

Clerics aren't namby pamby men in dresses Clerics are better paladins than actual paladins clad in heavy armour beating things to death in the name of god and healing their allies

>>37694927
I recall his sister being confused by his unorthodox style, rather than his skill.

>>37694969
> Investigate the Materialization Altar

>>37695125
There's not a healer class though.

The point is, the only 'magic' in the game is used by Artificer -- and it's clearly defined as being elemental in nature.

Why do so many people want to play a tank anyway? Makes us completely reliant on others to do the damage.

>>37694969

“One sec,” You say. “I'm going up there.”

“You're just going to walk right by?” Nel asks.

You push past Andor and make your way up the steps. He seems a bit too busy to care.

As you reach the top step—more like a stone pedestal—you find yourself bathed in a radiant light from above. There's a sense of wanting, a pressing feeling of necessity. The girl stands before you with outstretched arms, and though you don't believe you have what you're meant to, you feel compelled to make an offering.

You interact with the Altar, and a context menu unfolds before you.

> [[ Greater Celestial Materialization Altar ]]
> Celestial Manifestation “Averron City”
> MANIFESTATION GRANTED BY:
Andor, Liza, and Ayla, “that these newborn souls might have an origin point from which to forge their destiny”
> [[ Offer Celestial Gems ]]
* Create Celestial Artifact
* Enhance Celestial Artifact
* Enhance Celestial Manifestation
* Destroy Celestial Manifestation
> [[ Offer Item ]]
* Offer an Item to the Celestials

>>37695189
They can't realize that this is action game not turn based one with unavoidable moves

>>37695206
>Offer Item
FEED IT DEAD BABBY ID CARDS

>>37695189
No clue, but i'm giving my suggestion in what i believe the ideal tank is.
>>37695224
Which is why i'm thinking of an agility tank.
>>37695206
>Offer an Item to the Celestials

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>>37694984
techoknights

>>37695206
Offer pickaxe and destroy one of identification thingies or something

>>37695206
>* Offer an Item to the Celestials
scimitar
>* Create Celestial Artifact

>>37695189
The idea, really, is that we pump our melee + our defense. That way we can constantly fight without worrying about HP.
>>37695206
> Offer the UIs.

>>37695206
>* Offer an Item to the Celestials
Give it one of the UIs (not Circe).

>>37695206
>Do nothing
Lets offer the items later when there is less of a crowd. We may get tagged by others from offering the UIs.

>>37695264
That's not going to work without gems. Have you bothered reading the threads and actually paying attention to the mechanics?

>>37695253
>>37695206
Meant to say UIs here.

>>37695206
>Offer an Item to the Celestials
Offer it a random bit of junk gear, like some heavy boots or something, wanna see what it does with it first.

>>37695267
Right, and I'm all for not being a glass cannon, but being what you'd describe a tank is going too far in my opinion. We should avoid being sqiushy but still focus on being a damage dealer.

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>>37695147
Being a Cleric is about faith and bashing peoples heads in the actual healing is secondary and if we can get any wild magic faking it is easy

>>37695206
Offer the non-Circe UI's

>>37695290
eh no gems. we can't do anything with that anyway. just thought i'd pick from the options we had.

>>37695224
>>37695189
>>37695253
See >>37695267
The idea isn't that we go 'hurr, TANK!', it's that we boost our defenses alongside our melee capabilities so as to not have to drop from combat, which is what we'll be doing if we go with dodge tanking, because we won't be able to take a hit.

The point of taking Technician, just the same, is only to further augment our offensive capabilities.

>>37695264
>>* Offer an Item to the Celestials
>scimitar
this

Why don't we just go kinda balanced, but leaning towards offense for technoknight.

>>37695342
Or we can not be a decent tank.
and opt for being a good dps.
and let someone else be decent all around player.
while we get gud at what we do. And not be shit

>>37695375
Have you ever played MMO?
Balanced builds always suck

>>37694764
Don't, don't do this, Sargeras. I don't have a particularly bad opinion of you from the civ threads; don't mess it up.

>>37694803
In a zone where we can literally push people off into the abyss, two shields might be frighteningly useful.

>>37694893
>>37694918
Sword and dagger sacrifices a lot of defensive capability in order to allow versatility in weapon range and attack type. Technically, you can still parry, and it would actually be easier to parry rapiers with a dagger, but that assumes you're already really fucking good at this.

It's a goal to work towards, though.

>>37695206
>Offer the non-Circe UIs
Although MAAAAYBE we should check if our friend here recognizes them.

>>37695375
Stop sucking.
We go full dps.
and stop being a shitty person.
like >>37695342

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Why is everyone sperging out about this when we don't even know how to get a secondary archetype?
Relax, niggas.

WE NEED TO DUAL WIELD SHIELDS
SHIELD TWO NIGGAS AT ONCE
SHIELD ONE NIGGA TWICE

>>37695420
So somehow I'm a shitty person for attempting to offer my thoughts as to how we should build our character? Which is, in essence, a dps with a heavy side of tank? Right.

>>37695430
'Cus some people started sperging about being a tank and the rest of us who don't want to be a tank want to nip it in the bud.

>>37695430
We can invest in one once we hit a certain level.