"I guess we should get going while there's still daylight," I say, shrugging.

Jessica isn't going to kill herself, after all. Though it would make my life a hell of a lot easier if she did.

"It's noon," Archibald says, glaring at me. "Don't be stupid."
"Cut it out," Charlotte snaps back at him. "Cecile's right, we ought to get this done as soon as we can."
"Yeah," Irene nods. "I'll go tell the guys downstairs that we're heading out so you three get ready, okay?"
"Yeah, whatever," Archibald replies. "Backups and all that..."

With a smile on her face that's way too cheerful for someone who's actively planning to go and kill someone, Irene leaves the room and hurries out of sight.


>call or talk to someone before we leave
>follow charlotte out of here

I'm amazed Overshine didn't go for a 69 joke.

>>37713802
>follow charlotte out of here

>>37713802
>call or talk to someone before we leave
Mina tell her we found ice bitch and hopefully we can finish her without trouble this time.

>>37713802
>>follow charlotte out of here
I don' think we're in a mood for a chat while planning to murder someone.

>>37713802
>follow charlotte out of here

>>37713696
Mina needs to get over it and stop being a selfish cunt, she was never in any danger. Worst girl for life. And frost bitch better have some fucking damage to her so going afer her wasnt a waste of time with a total result of being bitched at. [REMOVE] was not a bad option in hat fight, she would have never survived without it.

>>37713802
>follow charlotte out of here

>>37713802
>follow charlotte out of here

>>37713696
>overshine criticizing our tactics
>2015

>>37713802
>Text Mina or Theresa & inform them shit's about to go down

>>37713802
>>follow charlotte out of here

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>>37713696
I want to marry Nicolette!

So was actually killing Jessica the plan from the beginning before everything went to shit?
I'm assuming the tree of life don't run a super powered jail.

>>37714106
That would be... the other quest.

>>37714159
Can't hear you over her wondrous beauty.

>>37713696
>Overshine hopes our friends die.
Really hoping Charlotte can help us get rid of him soon, like she did with her voice.

>>37714159
No, you see, in FD land, PGQ is an insanely popular VN series.

>>37714259
Overshine seems to have a lot of pride. A good way to knock it down a few pegs is to mention that we have a higher kill count than it does. The only two times it took over were on a regenerating werewolf and an ice person that it nearly lost to. CC took out Leo all on her own. And hopefully does the same with Jessica.

>>37714314
And she will get the kill on Jessica, as long as Anon remembers to stay the fuck away from any chance at going [REMOVE]

>writing

>>37714273
Oh in fiction
Which is all it is.

>>37714546
Now on Kikestarter: PQ Alternative. Play as Nicolette!

>>37713696
Over-chan, Irene is not enemy!
Maybe that which gathers the fragments is enemy.
But not Irene!

>>37714626
Overshine apparantly has an extreme dislike of anybody that isn't Theresa.

>>37714674
Ah So overshine has Good Taste.

>>37714674
Over-chan ships CCxTheresa. Or TheresaxCC

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"Cecile, are you really okay with going out and..." Charlotte drifts off.
"Yeah," I nod. "I caused this problem and I'm gonna end it."
"No, the Tree of Life is what -caused- this problem," she replies, glaring at Archibald. "So don't ever blame yourself for this, okay?"
"........."

I can't promise that.

"Let's just go," I mumble.
"Alright," Charlotte nods. "I guess we ought to meet up with that girl at the front entrance."

Taking my hand, she leads me out of the room and down the stairs. I spot Irene talking to one of those Church guys along the way, but Charlotte just ignores her and continues on towards the building's front door.


>[1/?]

>>37714781
>"No, the Tree of Life is what -caused- this problem," she replies, glaring at Archibald. "So don't ever blame yourself for this, okay?"

I know Char is being defensive, but I know she's smarter than that. And she has to know CC is smarter than that.

>>37714314
We totally need to point this out to Over-chan after we kill Jessica.
Doritos status: Not removed
Luiza status: Not removed
Jessica vs. [REMOVE] status: Not removed
Leo vs. Cecile status: removed.
Jessica vs. Cecile status: removed.

Cmon bro ww@? u get ur remove from a box of crackerjacks?

>>37714818
I like crackerjacks..

>>37714811
Well, she has to try. CC's been dragging herself over ash and glass shards over the previous events.

>>37714848
Yeah. Cecile should just feel fine and dandy. Not her fault she left her friend to di- Wait.. nope it is.

>>37714811
They are responsible for Jessica in the first place though.

>>37714781
>[2/2]

"Can you still see her?" I ask Charlotte as we lean against the doorframe. "Jessica, I mean."
"Yes," Charlotte nods. "She's still in the sewers, cursing to herself..."
"About me?"

Charlotte's expression is all the answer I need.

"Don't worry, I won't let her do anything to you," Charlotte replies.
"Thanks..." I reply with a weak smile.


>ask charlotte how she plans on getting jessica out of the sewers
>ask charlotte how gabrielle is ding
>keep to myself for now, I don't really feel like talking

>>37715016
>ask charlotte how she plans on getting jessica out of the sewers

>>37715016
>ask charlotte how she plans on getting jessica out of the sewers

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>>37715016
>ask charlotte how gabrielle is ding
Can she run Qey Catacombs yet?

>>37715016
>ask charlotte how she plans on getting jessica out of the sewers

>>37715016
>>ask charlotte how she plans on getting jessica out of the sewers

>>37714811
well she is right jess and assman are both former ToL members

>>37715016
>ask charlotte how she plans on getting jessica out of the sewers.

Planning is good. Especially when not knowing the specifics could kill you.

>>37715016
>ask charlotte how she plans on getting jessica out of the sewers

>writing

...kneading dough is not conducive to typing.


>back to writing

>>37715073
Been forever since I played that.

>>37715568
So what are you cooking up archelon? Other than enthralling plot twists.

>>37715694
"Cinnamon sugar pull-apart bread."

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>>37713696
>False Dendrite Quest 69

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>>37715713
Am I the only one who didn't think twice about the 69 thing until you guys brought it up?

"Charlotte?"
"Hm?" Charlotte glances at me.
"How exactly to you plan on getting that girl out of the sewer?" I ask. "I mean, she's relatively safe down there and it's not like you can control water or anything..."

And as funny as the mental image of her getting washed out in a torrent of raw sewage, she'd probably just end up freezing it before that happened.

"I can't control water, no," Charlotte shakes her head. "But rats are another matter entirely."

I feel the sudden urge to throw up.


>[1/?]

>>37715790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYWT4uYOPvs

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>>37715747
Oh I know what you mean

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>>37715805
>[2/2[


"Charlotte, you're going to-" I gasp.
"If I can manage to do so, I will," Charlotte shrugs, "but that took a lot out of me the last time I tried it so I doubt it'll work as well. I had to actively direct every rat to-"
"Please spare me the details!" I stammer.
"Er... sorry," she sighs.

Please, I don't need any more nightmares.

"Anyways," Charlotte continues, "starting a swarm is a lot easier to do than cause a sudden feeding frenzy so that's the plan," she says. "I'll have one come at her from the right direction and then..."
"But what if she just freezes all of them to death?" I ask. "And I think she has heat vision so won't she see them coming?"
"Yes, I took that into account," Charlotte replies. "That's why I have a backup swarm of bats as well as roaches and other creepycrawlies to 'gently' guide her in the direction I want her to go in..."
"...and then you force her outside and I fire my laser."
"Either that or that dorito boy skewers her outright," she replies. "But yes, that's the general idea."


>any issues with this plan?

>>37715957
Can we get a dropcat involved?

>>37715957
Nein

>>37715805
Charlotte, I know you mean well. But even -I- know the optimal strat in that situation is to surround yourself with ice with a few narrow view slits, and AoE temperature drop, which kills the everloving fuck out of rats.

>>37715957
Not that I can see. Just need to charge as much as we can.

>>37715957
We have no better idea right now, so seems about right.

>>37715978
Fits with the whole dishonored theme.

>>37715957
Ja is good. Might work better if tree of life could just get us a tear gas canister for the rats to carry down to her but something tells me they don't carry those.

>>37715957
We will call this Operation Sewer Flush.

>>37716045
I vote for Operation Shit Storm.

>>37715957
>>any issues with this plan?
What if she just goes ice block again and waits it out?

>>37716109
We gather enough light to melt a hole in an aircraft carrier and send Doritos in to drill her out

>writing

>>37716033
Some organisation if it doesn't have anti-materiel sniper rifles, flamethrowers, 5kg C4 charges, and Sarin.

>>37716234
The ATF does make those a bit annoying to own...minus the flamethrowers since those are listed as farm equipment.

>>37716280
A sufficiently large organisation should just be able to make them.
After all, my 2nd bedroom is filled with enough homemade crap to level not only this house, but the neighbours' houses as well.

>>37716280
.50 cals are perfectly legal in the free states (read: not California). They're just pretty expensive.

>>37716412
Greetings fellow Anonymous.

I too have explosives with which I could destroy large amounts of public and private property.

We should hang out and talk shits about the government together.

>>37716502
Which government you have in mind?

And besides, don't blame the government; it's the Banks you really gotta worry about.

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"...but what if she tries to hole herself up in the ice and wait it out?" I ask.
"Then -we- wait it out," Charlotte replies with a smirk. "I've already checked to make absolutely sure that there's nothing under there, and it's not like there's any lack of things down there that I can use to keep a lookout."
"If you say so," I sigh. "I just want this to be over with so things can go back to normal."

Or as normal as I can make things, anyways.

"Wha!?"

Out of nowhere, Charlotte spind me around and hugs me from behind, resting her chin on my shoulder.

"I'll do my very best, just you watch," Charlotte whispers. "And once this is over, we can call Gabrielle and Allison and Mina and order like five pizzas..."
"...I doubt Mina would want to come, though," I mumble.


>[1/?]

>>37716534
Banks... We should speak sooner than I had first believed. Simply continue to wait in your current residence.

>>37716536
I hope she doesn't have cell reception down there or she may have called reinforcements.

That would make waiting viable.

I hated how it just felt like the icy killer got away because it would be too soon to have us kill her off and it just felt extreamly railroady and not very fun. Would we even have been able to kill her somehow or was she always going to get away no mater what?

>>37716536
Okay, after this can we just have Cecil lie down on a couch and vent to Charlotte about all of this? I think she would benefit a lot from a psychiatry session, but I don't think we can go see a real one with all the superpowers and murder.

>>37716582
Ok bro! Just remember not to go in the 2nd Bedroom ok?

Also, you know anyone who could sell a bunch of raw uranium without it being on the books? Depleted is fine.

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>>37716536
>"...I doubt Mina would want to come, though," I mumble.
>Teenage girls
>refuse a free pizza party
Quit your trippin', CC.

>>37716609
Also, the nightmare thing is kinda important

>>37716605
Anon. I read that fight. Anons fought for shit. Cecile almost lost.

>>37716605
Jessica could have indeed died there.

>>37716536
at this point CC could hang out with Sylvie and the two could collectively suck the joy of life out of a room.

>>37716664
Oh yeah, I forgot that we just had a dream where she ate our guts.

Cecile needs therapy badly.

>>37716734
Rana would walk off with Charolette. Cecile could finally then be with who she belongs with. Death.

>>37716734
Are you sure you don't want to bring along pre-Reinhold Carina or Citrine?

>>37716724
Okay. So we have to predict if Jessica is going to Strike, Crash, or Guard. (or if she's CURRENTLY Striking, Crashing, or Guarding)

Strikes rely on speed and precision
Crashes have big windup, but overwhelming power
Guards are about stalling or walling

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>>37716536

"You two really are all lovey-dovey, huh!" Irene says, smiling warmly as she walks over to us.
"Yes, we are," Charlotte replies in a cold voice.
"Well I think that the two of you are an adorable couple. Matching dresses and everything..."

It's almost impressive how Irene just blatantly ignores the fact that Charlotte clearly hates her. I don't know if she's doing it on purpose or if she's just too nice to notice or what.

"Quit trying to make friends with her, Irene," Archibald says, having popped up from nowhere. "She's not worth it."
"Excuse me?" Charlotte lets go of me and steps towards Archibald.
"All you've done since we were NICE enough to let the two of you hide out here for the night is act like a bitch. I can't wait until either you or Jessica is dead so I don't have to put up with your crap anywhere."


>[2/?]

>>37716784
Also,
Strike > Crash > Guard > Strike

If the opponent is NOT GUARDING, we should STRIKE.
If the opponent is NOT CRASHING, we should GUARD.
If the opponent is NOT STRIKING, we should CRASH.

All those lead to 50/50 win/tie situation.

>>37716866
> anywhere

>>37716866
I want to waifu Irene.
Nice > Yandre

>>37716866
dek this cheeky cunt in his fucking face. Seriously.

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>>37716894
Yandre 3000?

>>37716866
>[3/3]

"What was that?" Charlotte cracks her knuckles. "I don't think I heard you correctly."
"Well maybe I can jog y-"

Irene pulls Archibald away just as it looks like he's about to get within range of Charlotte's fists.

"You know better than to provoke people, Archibald," Irene scolds him. "Now cut it out."
"What!?" he shouts. "SHE'S the one who's been doing nothing but provoke the both of us ever since she got here!"


>step in
>irene has this handled

>>37716981
>irene has this handled
Put a hand of Char's shoulder. Keep her from getting all bitchy.

>>37716981
>step in
Handle the Charlotte side of the equation only. Let Irene handle the Doritos. She's the one who can eat anything.

>>37716981
>step in
"Seriously? You've been nothing but a complete asshole since the minute I first met you and you threatened Mina and Me with your stupid Doritos."

>>37716981
>irene has this handled

>>37716981
>step in
It's clear neither of you like each other, but stop acting like children we have bigger concerns. The faster we get this done the better.

>>37716981
>>irene has this handled
She's got him whipped. However, tell Char to dial it down, we don't want dorito samples our way when we least expect it.

>>37716981
>irene has this handled

>>37717012
Instigator please.

>>37716981
Charlotte is such a cunt.
Worst girl.

>>37717061
>>37717080

same fag go and say go.

>>37716981
>talk about anal sex

Best answer to any situation

>>37716981
>step in
"He's right. Charlotte, stop being an ass."

>>37716981
>step in
slap him. right in the face. then tell him to grow the fuck up and stop being suck a whiny cunt.

>>37716981
Slap Charlotte's butt.

>>37717093
Animalistic trait probably. Territorial. Protective of mate. Blah blah blah.

>>37716981
>Ask him how his arm is doing?

>>37716981
>step in

>>37716981
>irene has this handled

>>37716981
>irene has this handled

delicious breads are at the final pre-baking stage, but I must

>writing

>>37716981
>Can you shut up so I can kill another one of your mistakes?

It looks like Irene has this handled so I think I'll stay out of it... but while she berates Archibald for being a stupid dick, I rest a hand on Charlotte's shoulder just in case.

With a tired sigh, Charlotte places her hand on top of mine before turning towards the door and leaving. The rest of us are forced to chase after her.

"Charlotte?" Irene calls out. "You're heading towards where Jessica's hiding?"
"That's right," Charlotte replies, no bothering to glance back at her. "You don't have any issue with this, right?"
"Of course not," she shakes her head. "I was just checking, that's all."


>[1/?]

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>>37717477

"so you're going to drive her out of the sewers and lead her to a specific point?" Irene asks.
"That's right," Charlotte replies.

After pulling up a map on her phone, Charlotte turns around and shows it to Irene.

"This is the exit point," Charlotte says, pointing at the map. "So I'll need you and your flunky over there to wait closeby so that we can ambush her when she's out in the open."
"Alright, we can do that," Irene nods.
"Good," she sighs. "Driving her out is going to cost me some stamina so I won't be able to join in the fight right away, but I'll head to where the rest of you as soon as I can."

Charlotte's expression darkens as she turns towards Archibald.

"Dorito boy, what's your range?" she asks.
"I swear, if you don't stop calling me that..." Archibald growls.


>[2/?]

>>37717602
"You'll what? Jeopardize the mission because you're a thin-skinned jerk?"

>>37717625
To be fair, charlotte is a jerk too. Doesn't like Irene, taunts a lot, is all salty.

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>>37717602
>[3/3]

"Why do you need to know that, Charlotte?" Irene asks.
"Well once that Jessica woman is out in the open, I'll need him to block off the way back into the sewer with his triangles so that she can't backtrack. And for the best results, he'd need to be as far as away from the exit as possible so that we can minimize the risk of her spotting him beforehand."
"...that makes sense," Archibald mumbles. "Alright, I'll do that."

So that's everyone's roles...

"But what about me?" I ask.
"Eh?"
"Where should I be?" I point to myself. "Do you want me to stay with you, or should I go to back up Irene, or..."
"I'd say that it's up to you," Irene replies, shrugging. "Just do whatever you feel you're most comfortable with."


>stay with charlotte while she drives jessica out into the open
>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717657
You. Go here.
>>>/d/5935507

Everyone else: don't go there.

>>37717722
>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside
>collect sun

>>37717722
>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717722
>>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717722
>>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717722
Find a high vantage overlooking the spot. We can magnify so we can see to shoo from there.

>>37717722
>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside
We need position and to be able to react immediately.

We'll motorboat hug Charlotte once it's over.

>>37717722
>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717809
With Charlotte god damn this tetchy tech

>>37717722
>>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717722
>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717722
>>>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

The plan was to be outside to nuke her. Christ I hate you samefag.

>>37717722
>>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717722
>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717722
>>>>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717897
Charlotte doesn't need to be in the sewers. She just doesn't plan to be engaging range immediately. CC's range is a mite longer than Charlotte's claws

>>37717722
>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717930
I get the feeling this are exclusive.

>>37717722
>stay with irene

We could try strawpoll.me if the samefaging keeps up.

>>37717722
>>>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

>>37717966
Are you retarded?

>>37717945
Exclusive what? Arch didn't give a good idea where Charlotte plans to be while poking rats into action

>>37717722
>>stay with irene so that I can be there once she's outside

Fucking idiots...


>writing

>>37717985
Look at how he is samefagging.

>>37718008
I'M SORRY I BURNT THE BREAD, PLEASE DON'T HIT ME!

>>37715713
What is source?

>>37718055
It's called "do a google image search first."

Fuck it. This isn't worth trying to sort through, I'll get back to False Dendrite next week.

I'm going to be up while my bread bakes though, so if any non-faggots had any questions then that's fine with me.

>>37718186
If this shit continues should we switch to dice rolls for combat?

>>37718197
No. I'm not doing that.

>>37718186
Don't let them know they won.

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>>37718186
>Just got here
>See this
>mfw
What the fuck happened?

>>37718186
Thanks for running dude.

>>37718210
Are you blind?

>>37718215
>Are you blind?
No, I just haven't even had a chance to read the thread.

>>37718206
Mk. Was just thinking it's a lot harder to dick up the dice than it is to spam STRIKE or CRASh

>>37718186
Thoughts on switching to strawpoll?

>>37718186
Got my Vegemite, should I eat it?

How tall are the Fdend waifus, Cecile and Allison?

>>37718245
That won't help anything.

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>>37718186

>>37718186
See you after the five PGQ threads.

>>37718186
is Charlotte so hostile to other organizations normally? Is Cecile being here with her affecting her?

>>37718186
Does Charlotte's control diminish with range? Does she have an absolute range?

>>37718186
Are there other Tree of Life type groups for other religions?

>>37718186
Can we laser snipe Esdeath if we leave Milkgirl on point and hang out with our yandere?

>>37718186
Does Charlotte feel pain if she's perceiving through other animals? What happens when the animal she's looking through dies?

>>37718186
Sorry to see it get to you arch. Have a cat help you bake to some awesome music.

http://belarr.com/bakercat/

>>37718186
What is your favorite reaction image?

>>37716866
Is it possible to tell Char to lay the fuck off Irene? She's been nothing but kind to us.

>>37716762
Pfft, Rana would want Irene.

>>37718186
It might not seem like it means all that much right now but anyway, thanks for running.

I'm sure it's been answered already so maybe a kind Anon can fill me in but is the branch someone receives determined by genetics/personality or is it random?

>>37718368
Ehhh, not a good idea. Char is getting territorial about an agent of a group she has issues with, better to just avoid that.

>>37718390
personality/state of mind.

IIRC, multiple personality disorder can result in multiple branches for the same body.

>>37718415
Cool, thanks.

Is that still true for people given branches directly by gardeners, or does the gardener have some control over it?

>>37718225
Same here. Just woke up and only read the OP posts

>>37718395


My problem so far is it's seems like we've chased off all the fun parts of our life.

We pissed off Mina with bad decisions
Theresa for not picking her over Charles.
I didn't even want Charles to begin with, but I got her.
So besides CC's sister and Irene, Charles and co. are the last few people who like us.

And now Charles is trying to get Irene out of our lives, too.

Either we have picked worst waifu, or Charles is doing all of this knowingly and we don't even realize it.

>>37718225
I read it and am still scratching my head

>>37718500
This.
I had to re-read it to pick out how many posts chose joke options because I filtered those out in my mind when I was reading.

>>37718489
>implying it isn't Overchan's keikaku to isolate CC and jump her in her most vulnerable state

(Translator's note: keikaku means plan)

>>37718489
Arguing with Theresa and Mina is 100% our fault.

>>37718526
Over the course of the entire thread or just the last few votes?

>>37718489
You just described why I barely come to these threads.

>>37718527
I would fully believe overchan and Charlie are in collusion after the recent turn of events. Everything seems to be going overchan's way.

I don't know how, but I would believe it.

>>37718534
It depends on how far back the shitposting goes, because I sure as fuck didn't vote for that.

>>37718526
Oh. Wow yeah. I just realized it to, I do the same thing. Holy fuck guys come on.

>>37718489
I'm guessing it's an animal laying claim. Irene want's the Pizza butt but is playing it off as nice.

Also totally agree with the assessment that once Cecile has alienated herself overshine will initiate over ride protocols.

>>37718557
I'm still hanging on, but it's getting harder to come back each week when it's "How will CC fuck up this time?" the quest.

I don't think anything we've done regarding relationships is permanent, but it's enough of a dry spell to make me not want to read for a few months until it blows over.

I'm glade Irene is the cutest block of dense in this quest, because I'm not sure I could stand her snapping at us, too.

>>37718534
Cecile isn't emotionally sound enough to be making the type of battle decisions Mina wants us to be making. She ran in. She got frozen. We understandably freaked out.

Theresa wanted us to lie to our long term girlfriend who can detect lies about something just so she could have a souvenir.

There reasons are stupid, and it's just making Cecile feel like shit and make more stupid decisions.

>>37718306
>is Charlotte so hostile to other organizations normally? Is Cecile being here with her affecting her?
She really dislikes the Tree of Life in particular, and there's also a bit of jealousy because of Irene.

>>37718319
>Does Charlotte's control diminish with range? Does she have an absolute range?
Charlotte's range is unlimited.

>>37718336
>Can we laser snipe Esdeath if we leave Milkgirl on point and hang out with our yandere?
No.

>>37718328
>Are there other Tree of Life type groups for other religions?
There are not.

>>37718343
>Does Charlotte feel pain if she's perceiving through other animals? What happens when the animal she's looking through dies?
She only feels their pain if she's assuming direct control over them. Should an animal that she's controlling die, it's rather traumatic.

>>37718368
>Is it possible to tell Char to lay the fuck off Irene? She's been nothing but kind to us.
You could if you wanted to.

>>37718430
>Is that still true for people given branches directly by gardeners, or does the gardener have some control over it?
Gardeners have no control over the powers they give.

>>37718500
That last vote had 36 replies. At the time, there were 36 original IPs posted in the thread.

>>37718610
So just too many people voting for anal huh?

>>37718587
>Theresa wanted us to lie to our long term girlfriend who can detect lies about something just so she could have a souvenir.

You get that this is objectively wrong, right?

I'm going to go make an image of arch saying how you don't understand Theresa for future use now.

>>37718659
What do you mean objectively wrong? She wanted us to lie to Charlotte about her having a book so that she could stick it in a shoebox in her closet or something.

Even if we lied to Charlotte by omission by saying Mina had the book, it's not like we were never going to see her or talk to her about the books again. It's very likely that secret would have been blown within a month anyway.

>>37718610
>That last vote had 36 replies.

So you're saying people are WILLINGLY voting for shitposting?

I don't believe that. I find it far more likely that number is a coincidence and what has happened is shitposter-san just happened to samefag the proper number of posts.

I don't subscribe to using unique posters as a measure of how many posters are currently in the thread right at this moment, there's no way to gauge how many people have left since that number was taken since it never decreases.

>>37718610
>That last vote had 36 replies. At the time, there were 36 original IPs posted in the thread.
The samefaggotry is real.

Thanks for running Arch. Even though I didn't get the chance to participate...

>>37718701
The number for me just went down from 40 to 39, so clearly it's weirder than all that.

In fact, 36 posters with 36 replies means there's at least 1 samefag, since Arch is a poster.

>>37718699
Omitting a truth != lying

>>37718714
And that's not taking into account the number of Anon that leaves or changes device during the thread.

>>37718735
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission

>>37718714
It removes on deletion, I think.

>>37718758
Or those that are simply lurking.

>>37718759
That isn't how Charlotte's lie detection works.

Also Charlotte said she was going to give us more time.

>>37718776
They wouldn't count at all unless they stop lurking

>>37718735
Cecile isn't a robot, she probably wasn't thinking that way when she decided to tell the truth.

Even if she was, she could have also thought about it too much with the fact that Charlotte isn't a mechanical lie detector, and probably functions off of sensing heart-rate and other biological functions. If Cecile was nervous about it in a way that looked like lying, it would still ping. And Cecile would be nervous in a way that looked like lying because she knew it was lying.

And all of this is still just because Theresa wanted the stupid book just to look at it occasionally. It's not even like she didn't trust Charlotte with it.

It's dumb of her to act like we're somehow stupid for not trying to lie to our girlfriend who detects lies in a way we weren't certain of at the time. For all we knew Charlotte 'detected lies' by reading minds, and she just told us it was only detecting lies so we didn't freak out as much.

Theresa is upset because we were honest with our girlfriend about the location of a potentially ddangerous object.

>>37718791
It kinda is, actually. Charlotte doesn't so much detect a lie as she detects the intent to deceive. Look at Poker players and tells for a real world example.

>>37718776
>>37718795
What about those of us who hop in the thread, vote once, and then get distracted?
My only post before this was for >>37716981 before I got distracted.

>>37718557
>>37718574
When you stop posting because of the other players doing stuff that you don't like, that only gives them more of a majority with which to do more stuff that you don't like.
Now don't get me wrong, I totally understand how discouraging it is, but still.

With that said, none of the screwups thus far are necessarily permanent.

>>37718699
>She wanted us to lie to Charlotte
Not telling the entire truth is not the same as lying outright.


>>37718701
>So you're saying people are WILLINGLY voting for shitposting?
No, I'm saying that that one faggot shitposter shitposted a WHOLE lot.

>>37718791
We've never gotten express confirmation on how her lie detection works, I don't think. Since she has a biological focused branch though, it's probably perception based, like >>37718806 and >>37718814 were saying.

But even if it is 100% true/false statement detecting, neither Cecile nor Theresa knows how it works. Theresa could be completely wrong and lying by omission wouldn't work.

>>37718829
>With that said, none of the screwups thus far are necessarily permanent.

They are unless you get a new player base, some fuckers still don't admit they fucked up.

>>37718829
>>>37718701
>>So you're saying people are WILLINGLY voting for shitposting?
>No, I'm saying that that one faggot shitposter shitposted a WHOLE lot.
Based Janitor came by, look at all the deleted shitposts.

Kinda sucks that it killed the mood, though.

>>37718829
Well here's hoping the next thread, whatever it is goes better.

Have a dancing turtle.

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>>37718846

>>37718878
forgot to link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoOWQDQ-lEw

>>37718829
When you finish PGQ, will you start a new quest to run alongside FDQ or use the time to focus on the VN?

>>37718829
What if you stop posting because you're just unsure that you'd vote for the right things at this point?

>>37718891
That is adorable. Thank you.

>>37718899
No more arch quests after FDQ.

>>37718899
>When you finish PGQ, will you start a new quest to run alongside FDQ or use the time to focus on the VN?
False Dendrite is the last quest that I have intention of starting and I am done with running quests entirely when it ends.

>>37718903
>What if you stop posting because you're just unsure that you'd vote for the right things at this point?
something something master asia something something don't doubt yourself

>>37718829
>When you stop posting because of the other players doing stuff that you don't like, that only gives them more of a majority with which to do more stuff that you don't like.
>Now don't get me wrong, I totally understand how discouraging it is, but still.
>With that said, none of the screwups thus far are necessarily permanent.

Yeah I'm only still here in the hopes you learn from your mistakes and put up bumpers, because your player base is literally too autistic to see what they did wrong.

>>37718919
>something something master asia something something don't doubt yourself
bleh

>>37718919
>I am done with running quests entirely when it ends.

Can't blame you arch. For some reason all of the shitlords gathered here.

>>37718852
Based janitor is based

>>37718883
Doesn't matter. Cecile's thought process at the moment could have only been 3 things.

>Charlotte can detect lies, I should tell the truth

>Chatlotte can detect lies, which might include lies of omission, I should tell the truth

>Charlotte can detect lies, which might not count not telling the full truth, I should leave something out and technically not lie

The first two are very reasonable thought process to go through. The third one is only obvious in hindsight.

I honestly don't see why everyone gets really upset when Cecile is not making 100% perfect optimal decisions all the time. Everyone makes mistakes, but these aren't even mistakes. These are reasonable actions that aren't the best option in hindsight.

>>37718903
Then try to start a discussion about it

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>>37718699
Also don't forget the part where we increased Theresa's odds of getting murdered.

>>37718952
Or how about

>I should talk to Theresa before risking her goddamn life.

>>37718980
>"Alright Cecile, who has the book?"
>"Excuse me while I go talk with my friends about the best way to lie to you."

>>37718919
>False Dendrite is the last quest that I have intention of starting and I am done with running quests entirely when it ends.
Damn, that sucks. Been enjoying your quests since the start, even though I often disagree with the majority vote.
At least we got great routes for both...

How'd the cinnamon bread turn out?

>>37718960
You mean a discussion between us anons, who already argue all the time and still got into this mess?

>>37719008
Delicious. Many thanks to Halaxis for the recipe.

>>37719003
Go reread the thread, Charlotte didn't bring it up, we did. And guess what Charlotte's reaction was. I wasn't expecting to talk to you about this yet and I didn't even have the slightest there was a second book.

I forgive you though, you don't know what you are doing is wrong, so you cant be held responsible for your own mistakes.

>>37719022
Yes, we brought it up shortly after learning she can detect lies out of a desire to be honest with our girlfriend.

This whole thing is only obvious in hindsight. Cecile didn't have any real way of knowing what she could keep a secret or not.

But no. You're right. If we played Cecile as a perfect just as planned chessmaster manipulator, we might have been able to not make these decisions. We wouldn't be playing the character anymore, but we'd be super optimal.

>>37718930
I want to argue with you, but I kind of feel this is needed at this point.

>>37719053
I am truly sorry that you have a mental disability. I hope this link can help you eventually have some basic understanding of social situations.

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/autism/helping-children-with-autism.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJWrDCeOa0

This is important

>>37719078
Do you know what would have happened if we kept lying to Charlotte about the books? All this drama with Theresa not liking us would be replaced with drama about how Cecile feels guilty for lying to her girlfriend's face and wasting her time. We'd still be having people voting to tell Charlotte about the book. It would have happened eventually. It doesn't matter.

You know how I know that I'm right? I'm actually making points, while you're just insisting that lying by omission would have worked and calling me autistic when I offer reasons why it wouldn't.

>>37719102
The QM has outright said you and wrong, and I am not using autism as an Insult, I literally believe you are autistic and on the deep end of the spectrum.

Guys. we can't change past decisions, but we can try to mend the relationships with our friends. Any ideas on how we can do that?

>>37719112
Kill them and use necromancer powers to make them our thralls, its full proof.

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>>37719102
>Literally using a fallacy.

>>37719004
It's nights like this that led me to make that decision.
Thanks for the kind words, though.

>>37719112
Put up a mental test to vote. For example:

Do friends risk their friends life? Yes or no?

Anyone who says yes doesn't count.

>>37719112
Die for them in the most tragic way feasible.

>>37719102
For what it's worth I agree with you anon.

>>37719105
That's the best part. It doesn't matter if anyone says that I'm wrong.

Cecile thought Charlotte could detect lies. She decided to tell the truth.

Full stop.

It doesn't matter how Charlotte's lie detection actually worked. It only matters how Cecile thought it worked at the time. At the time, she thought it worked very well, and so told the truth. It's that simple.

Theresa is mad because Cecile mentioned the second book. Cecile has no way of knowing how to keep that secret from Charlotte. This is very simple.

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>>37719112
Look at that guy who still defends our decisions. See how retarded he is? He isn't even the worst of them. Arch turned this quest into a burning turd when he allowed such decisions at all.

The only value this quest has is the rejoicing.

>>37719156
Thank you. That means a lot.

>>37719174
Fuck you, my laughter woke up my roommate and he ate my food for it.

>>37719124
>Calling out ad hominem as ad hominem is a fallacy.

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>>37719112
The problem is that outside of shit like saving their lives when the circumstances allow us to, we don't have a lot of range for what we could do for them, especially now that they avoid us.

And they'd consider us saving their lives to be due to them as past friends, and not a reason to excuse us.

We could also beg for their forgiveness and say "I'm sorry" a lot, and then the next time things go wrong we'll make another mistake, screw them over and we'll be back to square one.

Fuck this. It's too late.

>>37719112
We try to make the school bullies intensify their efforts in makeing CC's school life a living hell. Then hope Theresa or Mina eventually steps up to protect her after she choses not to confront the bullies. Cue tearful reunion.

>>37719192
>>37719156
You know what, with both of you here this quest is irredeemable. Fuck you both, I quit.

>>37719174
That was my rationale too. That seemed like the best choice with all the information that was available then.

>>37719212
Good. That's one less person demanding Cecile act like an automaton.

>>37719216
>Risking a friends life is a better idea then waiting to talk about it.

Are you literally retarded?

>>37719212
...and there goes another one. Great.

>>37719222
>Risking a friends life

With what? She's already running around in a cape pissing off everyone she can.

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>>37719231
You could have put up bumpers. You only have yourself to blame.

>>37719174
>Theresa is mad because Cecile mentioned the second book. Cecile has no way of knowing how to keep that secret from Charlotte. This is very simple.
The only thing she had to do, literally the ONLY thing Cecile had to do in order to keep Theresa's book a secret was to NOT MENTION IT. That is all. Nothing else.

You try to rationalize the stupid shit that we've done by saying that "cecile thought such-and-such" when the only reason that she thought so at all was because Archelon felt the need to try and work all the stupid shit that we do into being in-character.

>>37719216
Hell, I voted for it. I don't blame Theresa for how she reacted, but neither do I fault CCs logic. This subject have been discussed to no end and I don't think I've seen a single new point raised since the thread we did it. Further discussion therefore seem pointless and both anon arguing in this thread only serve to shit it up for others.

>>37719234
Cape crusading is just in danger of local thugs/anyone who happens to be in the area.

Knowledge of her having a book makes her an immediate target for any ORGANIZATION that wants the book. Like say those Qplothfsdfs people? Or the Tree of Life? Or if Gauthier decides that she should not have that book? Or the Mafia?

>>37719234
You basically told a megacorporation that one of your friends has the mcguffin that people are literally willing to kill for.

To put it in /tg/ terms, you made a deal with a dragon.

>>37719222
I bet on Charlotte being reasonable, and turns out Theresa got to keep it anyways. But now if she fucked up with the book, at least competent people are able to react. Theresa's shitty reason for keeping the book is ultimately tipped the scales for me.

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>>37719268
THANK YOU. Christ. Yes From Theresa's PoV CC fucked up, however CC acted with all available information. It's over, it happened, and Arch has said we can patch things up. SHUT UP AND MOVE ON.

>>37719288
Can you at least admit that it wasn't a good idea even with the info we had at the time, to not JUST FUCKING TALK TO THERESA BEFORE RISKING HER LIFE!

>>37719278
I would tell Lowfyr exactly where my friend's hideout is if she was harboring a portal to the horrors as one of her trophies.

>>37719293
At this point I am just trying to convince arch that bumpers are needed.

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>>37719268
I voted for it and I regret it. With the way this was set up as a horror quest I shadowrunned too much and assumed the book problem would come back to blow up in our faces. I thought minimizing that risk was worth angering Theresa. I was fucking wrong. Mea culpa.

But this also means that situations like that will come back over and over, because every anon comes with their own assumptions on how the quest will unveil, and statistically most of them will be off the mark. Which means that we're essentially blind and unable to make any enlightened decision.

>>37719314
>a portal to the horrors
Worst case scenario its what the villen from the incredibles wanted where everyone had superpowers.

Still a bad Idea to make a deal with a dragon.

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>>37719322
At least someone learned from their mistakes.

>>37719318
I really don't want to put training wheels on this quest. But with that said, it's becoming more and more clear that leaving things totally open is only going to lead to everyone aside from the edgelord rejoicers and people who insist that Cecile Did Nothing Wrong getting discouraged to the point of dropping the quest entirely.

>>37719336
That was not the picture I posted.

>>37719337
Thank you.

>>37719328
You forgot the part where the superpowers comes with a psycho alternative personality. Alien minds taking over people's bodies. Would bug spirits be more fitting than horrors then?

>>37719337
What the fuck is that rejoicing shit anyways? Are they the same ones voting for anal?

Well give a person total freedom and they will run into the one tree in the desert.

>>37719322
I don't know about you, but I'm here for the story. Optimal desicions doesn't always make for interesting reading so I simply chose whichever option I find to be most in-character, and if I find several options equally viable I'll pick the one I find most interesting.

>>37719339
No but it's surprisingly accurate.

>>37719360
Agreed. The best stories come from fuck ups.

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>>37719358
>What the fuck is that rejoicing shit anyways?
That's where you vote specifically for the drama value and not the intelligence/viability of the option.

See: Jokes on him, I was only pretending to be retarded!

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>>37719377
So fuckheads rocking the boat simply to make waves. Great.

>>37719360
But SUFFERING doesn't make for an interesting story at all if it means a quest that is primarily based on social interactions has the MC getting cut off from all their friends because they keep making hardly excusable decisions.

And I think that playing a quest include we as the player trying to do the best we can for the character. It's part of the game. But I suppose you can go on a sportsfield and intentionally act like a retard for le epic lulz and make your team lose if that's your idea of fun.

>>37719377
I'll have you know I tried to talk them out of their idiocy and voted against it.

It is so much better when they could have had things go well, even had someone try to guide them and then they drive off the cliff, refusing to admit jumping off a cliff was a mistake.

>>37719377
See I understand that line of thinking in the case of telling Charolotte about Therssa's book.

But ditching Mina was just so pants on head retarded and out of character that it hurt the story.

>>37719398
Seems like you weren't convincing enough, maybe your shit arguments drove them to do the opposite.

>>37719391
>But I suppose you can go on a sportsfield and intentionally act like a retard for le epic lulz and make your team lose if that's your idea of fun.

More of watching someone stick a fork in a light socket and laughing at them.

>>37719398
Try harder, man.

>>37719391
I'm not saying we should go full edgelord, just that the optimal course of action isn't always going to make sense from a character standpoint.

>>37719416
mayb

>>37719377
So did that Chase Jessica/ Thaw Mina only have a single viable/intelligent choice?

>>37719436
Too bad that isn't a valid excuse for betraying Theresa.

>>37719398
You don't get to take credits for supposedly arguing for the right decision (one an anonymous message board, no less, so conveniently there's no way to know if you're telling the truth) and then rejoicing for the bad one. It just makes you look like you're pulling a slightly more sophisticated version of "I was only pretending to be retarded". It's why the Kirei posters just end up looking like edgy autists.

>>37719436
But we as the players are supposed to know the score, and even without metagaming we should strive to make the character better in spite of their shortcomings. Or else they'll never overcome these shortcomings in the first place.

>>37719455
>Chase Psychopath
>Save best friend
>GO FUCKING NUTS AND HAND CONTROL OVER TO THE CLEARLY INSANE ALTERNATE PERSONALITY IN YOUR HEAD

I won't say it had a wrong choice or a good choice, but it had one really, really bad choice we decided to go with.

I say "We" but I have doubts anyone who still plays voted for it.

>>37719455
Yes. Saving Mina was the only choice that made sense to me.

>>37719472
If I am anonymous why would I care if you believe me?

I suppose it is somewhat edgy though.

>>37719476
>>37719474

Okay, if that's the truth then those aren't real choices.

>Good choice
>Bad/sub-optimal choice
>ohshitwhatareyoudoingnigger.jpg

What's the point? Why offer choice at all?

>>37719502
Arch is secretly a masochist?

>>37719502
Wasn't REMOVE a write-in?

>>37719552

No
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37236399/#p37237381

>>37719548

Dunno about that but I constantly get the feeling that the playerbase gets blamed for choices that aren't really choices.

>>37719465
Not defending the choice but not wanting to keep secrets from your girlfriend who almost died saving your life is understandable.

>>37719642
Thing is, we could have done both.

>>37719502
>>37719548
>>37719579
Well it is still a game. Most have some kind of rating for how well you're doing.

arch could give us total freeform without consequences, or Cecile could go all absurdist on Mina and Theresa and says that her choices don't matter. But would it be the quest arch and the players want to have?

>>37719713
>Absurdist
I thought that was fatalism?

>>37719725
Possible, I hesitated on which one to use.

>>37719474
Since I didn't think Arch would include a trap choice, I assumed Mina was not in danger.
In my head it was like a comic book.
Sort of like Wolverine and Colossus chasing after an ice-based villain and Colossus was frozen in ice. He's merely slowed down for awhile.
Should have recognized we were in Darker Than Black instead.

>>37719733
Fairly sure absurdism is there is no greater meaning to life. Fatalism is that everything is going to happen anyway and out decisions don't matter.

>>37719752
Well Mina did get out without a scratch because her armor conveniently happens to protect her. It's the part where we weren't sure of that but still left her encased that she dislikes.

>>37719755
I stand corrected then.

>>37719713
I'm not saying that choices shouldn't have consequences. I think all choices should have positives and negative consequences evenly so they can be rationally considered.

If only some choices have drawbacks then only REJOICE players and people are unaware of the purely negative choice will choose them and end up making the character appear stupid and incompetent.

>>37719781
Technically REMOVE did give us a shot at stopping Jessica there and then (she could have escaped if we stayed to help Mina) so it wasn't an entirely worthless option, but then we had to fight...

>>37719768
>It's the part where we weren't sure of that but still left her encased that she dislikes.

That's the funniest part to me. Out of the two of us only we were in real physical danger. Out of the two of us only we came away with injuries. We left her with Charlotte and green Doritos a 'sub-optimal' choice (sure we could have melted the ice faster but we didn't leave her completely alone).

She's mad because we put the mission first. Given the last time we let some punk bitch saunter away she came back with allies and kidnapped us it's actually a reasonable reaction.

>>37719805
Jessica got hit hard by Irene and one-shot her.
Jessica got hit hard twice by Mina and insta-disabled her.
She got chased by us, fought us, LOST, summoned a shield weakened the ground and ESCAPED into an underground sewer without help, rest, or guidance.
I think REMOVE was worthless and it is kind of insane we are actually thinking of facing her again at all let alone minus a team member.

>>37719886
I too am kind of annoyed by how often antagonists escape without a scratch in this quest, but if archelon said the fight could be won and Jessica caught/killed by us I'm going to assume he's telling the truth.

>it's actually a reasonable reaction
It was a matter of immediate danger (Mina dying) vs long term danger (Jessica coming back more dangerous than before). I think that saving Mina should have taken priority no matter how infuriating it is to let yet another bad guy get away, but I didn't vote for this decision and I'm not entirely sure I wouldn't have gone with the majority if I did. I really dislike the idea of her getting away and it could have maybe influenced me enough to vote to go after her.

>>37719924
>It was a matter of immediate danger (Mina dying) vs long term danger (Jessica coming back more dangerous than before).

I disagree. When I read the choices

>chase after her
>help mina
>[REMOVE]

I see help as just that:help. It wasn't rescue Mina. Not SAVE Mina. It was lowercase help. Much less emotional intensity than [REMOVE].

>>37719963
Mina was in a block of ice with her only protection being an armor of unknown effectiveness when it comes to protection against the cold, and Archibald was busy crying over his wounded waifu. It wasn't difficult to understand that the situation was critical.

>>37720015
True but that circles back to my original claim the choices are disingenuous. The only reason 95% of people would choose something besides helping her is that a single sentence

>She... she's frozen. All of her. In a huge sheet of ice.

before a very important choice doesn't properly convey more than a simple disabled status effect. The added realism of hypothermia and breathing considerations are added after the fact but the realism of mission first and threat elimination are left by the wayside.

>>37720056
That's one of the problem, when I see sheet I think of a hastily constructed relatively thin obstacle that Mina would be able to get out of. If it were a block of ice, I would have chosen to stay and help.

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>>37718186
Sorry to hear that Arch. Thanks for running, hopefully things go better next week.

Also, here's some cats.

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>>37718186
>Wake up.
>See quest.
>The scroll bar seems to indicate it is long.
>See this.
>TFW

>>37719337
Perhaps training wheels isn't really the right way to think of it?

I like your combat system, in fact I may just steal it outright for future questlike roleplaying things I do. That system works! But in that system, you have to make three obvious screwups to arrive at a universally bad result.

So why is it that everywhere outside of direct combat, a single bad choice can lead to so much pain and moping? Shouldn't it be the other way around, since combat sequences are risky and climactic? Especially in a quest system where a good portion of the readerbase isn't here for every choice, or even every thread?

Not letting people fuck up horribly with one or two poor choices isn't "training wheels" and doesn't make the quest less interesting. Rather, I'd say that allowing that in the first place is a bad thing, and leads to what we're seeing here. The fun is in how we get to the end, not if.

>>37720235
It's DXR's combat system. Be sure to give credits where it is due.

>>37720254
And he took it from fate/extra who took it from rock paper scissors.

>>37719963
>It was lowercase help
Aside from REMOVE all options are in lowercase.

Ok I just got back here after I left. I left just before the final story post. What happened? Did the shitposters run rampant and get deleted after the fact?

>>37720300
If you want to make a combat system from scratch, you must first create the universe

>>37720817
Some shitposters where spamming about anal sex or something. Looks like much of it was deleted by janitors.