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>The story so far: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Shadows%20of%20Zeon
>Current list of crew members and assets: http://pastebin.com/rXpM2eFu
>Optional Sidesmuts: http://pastebin.com/PFjU8efe; http://pastebin.com/2vbLjgkM

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October 19, UC 0084.

You are Captain Dominic O'Hara, friend of Justice and Newtype casanova.

Last night's round of drinking with the old guard has given you a much deeper insight into your newfound allies from the Republic of Zeon and Karaba: Cima Garahau sees you and your team as a family of sorts, to replace the family, home, and comrades she lost during the One Year War. Amuro Ray still strikes you as a reluctant soldier, whose reservations over his own Newtype status and personal relationships are still issues he needs to work out for himself. Shin Matsunaga is probably struggling to find his way in a world where not only has the man he fought so loyally for killed, but where he's obliged to fight alongside his former enemies against a mutual enemy. Many drinks were consumed, and a few things have come out that were probably best left as secrets.

Thankfully Cima seems to have sobered up enough to resume her duties, and Matsunaga still doesn't know that Carya and Catrina tried to frag him during the fall of Solomon, so things could definitely be worse.

You're preparing to see Ray and Matsunaga off when your phone rings: it's Karen, and she's calling a meeting. Apparently something happened between last night and this morning that has her concerned enough to bring you in.

>See Amuro and Shin off, then meet with Karen
>Suggest Amuro and Shin accompany you
>Some other course of action?
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>>38680196
>See Amuro and Shin off, then meet with Karen
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>>38680196
Excuse yourself and go see what the Cap'n wants. No raisin to interrupt the others drinks if they're still around.
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>>38680196
>>Suggest Amuro and Shin accompany you
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>>38680196
>One hour earlier than usual
>Starts one hour later
Uhh....
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>>38680196
Wow, slow night.
>writing
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>>38680572
I was waiting for this thread to start 2 hours ago, I was about to go out when I just saw your latest rweet.
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>>38680562
Daylight savings happens earlier in the US. So here it's the same time as it always is, but I just got my wires crossed on what time it actually was in the US.

Entirely my fault.
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>>38680572
Just lurking. Will vote when its something i have an opinion on.
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>>38680562
I thought there'd be some daylight savings time involved, since the tweet remark about the US was rather specific.

I wouldn't know since there's nothing like that here, but this is still on schedule.
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>>38680196
>See Amuro and Shin off, then meet with Karen
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>>38680196
>Suggest Amuro and Shin accompany you
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>>38680196
>>See Amuro and Shin off, then meet with Karen
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>>38680196
You meet Amuro and Shin as they're preparing to disembark. Amuro strikes you as not really being much of a drinker, and he's a little green around the gills after last night. Captain Bright definitely isn't going to be happy about this. Shin however seems to be nursing his headache without too much difficulty. He's a big boy, and you have no doubt he can hold his drink exceptionally well.

“Well, I'm glad the booze lubed you up” you mutter, “cause it made it easier to pull that gargantuan stick outta your ass.” You've got to mutter, for the sake of your own headache. Behind the sunglasses though you're all smiles.

Shin's roaring laugh doesn't do your head any good. “It was good to get that of my chest, O'Hara. I think we'll do just fine as allies.”

“Not so loud,” Amuro moans. “God, Bright's gonna kill me...”

“Buck up, trooper,” Shin shoots back. “You'll live through worse.”

“Let me know if he survives,” you nod. “Take care, you two.”

After seeing the two pilots off your ship, you head straight to the ready room. Along the way you run into the rest of your team, who seem as confused at the sudden call as you are.

Karen starts the briefing with an image of the Pezun Base.
(1/2)
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>>38680999
Damn it, Tachibana, what happened? Did Brave Cod kill you for making fun of his name?
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>>38681248
That's what you get when you start mocking the Gundam version of the Shinsengumi
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>>38681248
>Did Brave Cod kill you
It was in the Call of Duty what a Brave man.
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>>38680999
"This is Pezun," Karen announces. "Stock photo. At 23:00 Universal Mean last night a Titans taskforce sent by Bask Om initiated an attack on the base."

"How big a task force we talking here?" Catrina asks."

"One Alexandria class vessel and two modified Salamis," ALICE tells you. "Mobile suit compliment of eighteen total, a mix of Marasais and Gaplants."

"So how did the Instructor Corps fair?" Haman presses. "Didn't someone say they had some fancy new machines stored there?"

Karen nods. "The signal for the offensive was sent at 23:00. By 23:15 the offensive had been halted. All eighteen mobile suits were reported as shot down, one Salamis was sunk, and the remaining two vessels were heavily damaged."

That's actually impressive. You know the Instructor Corps are good pilots: they're instructors for a damn good reason. But that kind of lopsided result strikes you as unusual.

"How many suits did Pezun put up?"

"Three," ALICE tells you.

Nobody in the room can quite believe what they just heard. "The kicker," Karen continues, "is that the Man form Jupiter made an attack at the same time. Reports from Gryps suggest that a two-kilometer long ship assaulted the Titans base there, and the base is now in Paptimus' hands."

"Damn," Audrey mutters. "That's quite the news. Does Cima know?"

Karen nods. "We'll be calling a meeting between the three captains right after this. Thought I'd give you the heads up."

>We've got to counter Paptimus' strategy.
>Bask Om is open now. We should strike while the iron's hot.
>This is a perfect opportunity for the remnants to act. We should prepare to counter that.
>The newtype labs are still a priority.
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>>38681383
>>We've got to counter Paptimus' strategy.
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>>38681383
Wow, that happened fast. I'm impressed. Right, well, the Titans groups will still be fighting amongst themselves for a while, at least. Right now I'd say the Zeon Remnants acting on their distraction is our biggest worry.
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>>38681383
>We've got to counter Paptimus' strategy.
An allegedly powerful Newtype now in control of Gryps and the in-house Cyber Newtype facility there? And with his own huge ship?
It's like he really is matching us with mirror moves.

>meeting between the three captains
It's an alliance of three ships even.
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>>38681531
Shit, forgot to make my vote clear with greentext. Let me correct that.
>This is a perfect opportunity for the remnants to act. We should prepare to counter that.
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>>38681383
>>We've got to counter Paptimus' strategy.
>The newtype labs are still a priority.
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>>38681383
Stick to the initial plan of going after the NT labs. Pappy and Bask can't use an asset if it's a smoking crater and all of it's personal are dead, recruited to our side, or dead. We'll destroy the facilities before they can get their tentacles in them.
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>>38681383
>We've got to counter Paptimus' strategy.
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>>38681542
>That spoiler
If only Dom was the protagonist of that series, it would have been so much better. For one thing, he's got a proven track record for taking pink-haired potential tyrants and turning them into respectable members of society.
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>>38681383
>>We've got to counter Paptimus' strategy.
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>>38681383
"God, there's so much that needs to be done," you mutter. "Things are moving fast. What the hell does Papsmear even think he's doing?"

"Emulating us," Rossweisse suggests.

Haman frowns. "Actually that makes a disturbing amount of sense. Powerful Newtype, what sounds like a retrofitted helium carrier, goes around absorbing the most advanced technology and best pilots he can find."

"He's you, Dom."

Audrey laughs, drawing eyes to herself immediately. "More like the mirrorverse version of Dom. Bet he's got a goatee."

"If I had a goatee, would he be clean shaven?" you ask nonchalantly. "Or would that just make me the evil Papsmear?"

"We're getting off topic," Karen huffs, trying to wipe the mental image of you in a goatee from her brain. "Haman had a point, it seems Paptimus is building a small, powerful force of his own to operate out of a mobile firebase and factory. And now he has all the tech being developed at the Gryps facilities at his disposal."

"So how do we counteract that?" Emma asks. "We could attack head-on, but if he's at all competent he'll have his own strategy to counter a direct assault. A smaller probing force or an infiltration would probably be smarter."

Chris grins. "Hell, if a rookie and a kid with a camera can raid a top-secret R and D lab and snap photos of a Gundam, it couldn't be that hard for us to pull it off."

"True," Catrina muses. "Or he hasn't planned for it because it's too obvious."

"We could contact him, same as we did with Tachibana?" Haman suggests. "Try and get a better feel for his thought process before committing?"

>Audrey and Chris have a point. Sneaking in would be a better plan.
>A well-planned raid is better. It gets around trying to outsmart a clever man.
>Can't hurt to talk to the man. Keep up your poker face and see what he tells you
>Other?
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>>38682175
>>A well-planned raid is better. It gets around trying to outsmart a clever man.
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>>38682175
>A well-planned raid is better. It gets around trying to outsmart a clever man.
Let's fight this out, newtype vs newtype
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>>38682175
>>A well-planned raid is better. It gets around trying to outsmart a clever man.
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>>38682175
>Audrey and Chris have a point. Sneaking in would be a better plan.
Not any of our core team, though. I don't want to risk them getting Newtype mojo'd.
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>>38682175
>>A well-planned raid is better. It gets around trying to outsmart a clever man.
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>>38682175
Ambush?

Ambush.

Put out some bait. Something inconspicuous such as fragments of ALICEs programming matrix or a report of a psychoframe leak that we would heavily encrypt. Just enough to catch interest so he'll send out mooks we can capture and interrogate.
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>>38682175
>A well-planned raid is better. It gets around trying to outsmart a clever man.
inb4 it ends up with a Gundamjack mission mid-raid

>God, there's so much that needs to be done
And I've even considered every possible angles with Bask and the remnants.
I suppose Cima and her fleet with piracy experience could hound whatever is left of the Om Faction fleet that attacked Pezun.
I'm also worried of the possibility that the remnants would try to make a play for the late Jamitov's unused solar mirror laser superweapon thing.
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>>38682492

you mean Gryps 2? I thought that Papasmear had just taken that...
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>>38682657
No, in this continuity the Solar Array used to stop Operation Stardust didn't get destroyed, so there's a second giant space laser lying around.
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>>38682657
Nah, I'm talking about the one that might be mothballed since Operation Stardust.

Unless in this 'verse, Gryps 2 is built around or added to that...
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>>38682175
"If his reputation is anything to go by, Paptimus is a wily little fuck," you point out. "A straight assault made before he can mount a counteroffensive seems to be the way to go... only question is how do we make sure that assault gets through."

"Options?" Karen asks with a nod.

Haman is the first to come up with a plan. "We could leak a false message that a Titans base has made a breakthrough with the psychoframe? That ought to catch his attention."

"We could attack somewhere else to draw his main force away from Gryps," Marida suggests. "Stick with the classics?"

"We'd have to make it believable," Cynthia adds. "A credible threat. Keep him blind to anything else that moves."

"Meaning it'd have to be us, and it'd have to be a high value target," you conclude. "He might not go for the bait otherwise."

"As much as I hate to say it," Carya scowls, "we could leak some intel to that asshole Voight. If we're lucky a major Zeon offensive would be too tempting for the Jovian to pass up, and they'll kill each other off in the fighting."

Playing the two sides against each other... it's a gamble, but if Carya's right and it pays off two of your major enemies could deal death-blows to each other and your own allies would step up to fill the power vacuum. And with Mars on the way, shouldn't that be the ultimate goal?

>Leak some false intel
>Stage an attack with Karaba
>Suggest playing Voight and Paptimus off against each other
>Other?
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>>38682808
>>Suggest playing Voight and Paptimus off against each other
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>>38682808
>Suggest playing Voight and Paptimus off against each other

If nothing else and it all ends in the shitter, we can just jump in and make it a three way brawl when they've worn themselves out.
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>>38682808
>>Suggest playing Voight and Paptimus off against each other
>Leak some false intel
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>>38682808
>Stage an attack with Karaba
I'd rather not give Voight anything. It would have to be something real in order for it to be convincing, I don't want to risk him getting anything useful.
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>>38682808
>Suggest playing Voight and Paptimus off against each other

Also, we need to find three expendable mook pilots, make them Char's Wingmen and send him to infiltrate Gryps...
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>>38682808
If it was Bask, I'd love to use the plan to play them against each other since we're pretty aware of his hateboner for anything Zeon.
But since this is a complete unknown we are talking about, there's also a possibility of Voight and Paptimus forging an temporary alliance for the sake of convenience.
They'll still probably try to kill each other afterwards though.

>Leak some false intel
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>>38682948
If it's three, they'll die too fast to be useful. We need to attach him with 2 mooks, that way he'll take care of them better, and they'll last longer.
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>>38682808
>Leak some false intel
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>>38682808
Whatever happens, Tachibana would jump on the opportunity to screw Papsmere over.
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>>38682808
Playing off Voight and Papsmear against each other wins narrowly, though leaking was close. I'll try to work that into the plan.

>writing
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>>38682808
“We'd need to make the target juicy enough that Voight would make the mistake of going for it,” you muse, “and that Papsmear would want to drop everything to defend it.”

“A Newtype lab?” Emma suggests.

Rosse shakes her head. “Don't want any more falling into his hands.”

“We don't know whether he'd be any better than Om's faction, and he could be much worse,” Audrey adds. “The problem is he's still kind of an unknown.”

“An attack against his supply lines may be a real blow,” says Ilia, who bites at her thumbnail gently. “That ship of his may be self-sufficient, but Gryps certainly isn't. It's all military, no agriculture.”

Catrina gives you a smirk. “Yeah, and I bet Cima could give us a few pointers on how to do commerce raiding right.”

A though enters your head.

“What about “six shooter”?”

“What about it?” Karen asks, crossing her legs and settling deeper into her seat.

You nod, still wondering to yourself if it would work. “It's a Titans-run project that's had a shitload of money dumped into it with no discernible results. So either it's a dead end, or it's something so secret and so powerful Jamitov wouldn't even tell most of his own organization about it.”

“The latter seems more likely than an outright boondoggle,” Haman points out. “That might just work. I'd want to know what exactly the project was though before I leaked data to Voight.”

>Suggest investigating Six Shooter
>Suggest piracy on a grand scale
>Suggest a raid against another Titans-run facility
>Other?
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>>38683441
Did we ever get solid information on what exactly that thing is? I've heard colony laser advanced as a theory.
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>>38683441
>>Suggest investigating Six Shooter
>>Suggest piracy on a grand scale
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>>38683441
>>Suggest investigating Six Shooter
>Suggest piracy on a grand scale
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>>38683441
>Suggest piracy on a grand scale
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>>38683441
>Suggest investigating Six Shooter
By piracy, do you mean our team will engage in it or are we trying to draw out Voight into doing it while we go for the Gryps raid?
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>>38683745
You would be suggesting that Voight attack the supply lines to Gryps. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

I'll give another few minutes to break the tie.
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>>38683441
>Suggest investigating Six Shooter
Investigate the unknowns
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>>38683441

>Suggest investigating Six Shooter
>Suggest piracy on a grand scale
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Alright, feels like I can call it.

>writing
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>>38683441
"So we get the information ourselves," you suggest. "ALICE? Can you do that for us?"

The AI's pop-idol avatar appears on the main viewing screen, frowning. You may not be able to sense her feelings, like you can with your flesh and blood companions, but you can tell she's not happy about something.

"I'm sorry, Captain," she replies sadly. "I have been trying to access data on "Project Six-Shooter" since February. At some points half my runtime was dedicated to locating and decrypting relevant data."

"Is there a problem?" you ask quietly.

"I... can't."

You shake your head, not understanding where this is going. "What do you mean? You can't do what?"

ALICE's avatar looks at you gloomily. "I have been unable to discern the function of Six Shooter. It seems most of the actual data pertaining to its design and construction is transmitted as hard copies."

"Hard copies?" Karen asks. "You mean like physical paperwork?"

ALICE nods. "I've never had to give up before, but I simply can't access data that's stored purely as non-digital media."

"Does it bother you?"

Your question catches the AI off her guard, but eventually she nods ever so slightly.

>Could you locate it? We could leak the location to Voight and go from there.
>If you can locate it we can go snooping.
>I'm sure we could "persuade" someone who has the physical files to talk to us.
>Other?
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>>38684212
>>If you can locate it we can go snooping.
>I'm sure we could "persuade" someone who has the physical files to talk to us.
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>>38684212
>If you can locate it we can go snooping.
>Other?
"Did the info from Leipzig yield any hints?"
"And you don't need to fret over that ALICE, you've been doing well with what you can work with."

I'm assuming it might not be sufficient information or that those two pieces of the puzzle might not even be connected to one another, but it couldn't hurt to ask.
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>>38684212
>If you can locate it we can go snooping.
Also
>Other?
Reassure AI little sister about our faith in her capabilities, and tell her that next time she has something like this troubling her she should tell us. At least that way she could get some stress taken away by having someone to commiserate with.
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>>38684212
>If you can locate it we can go snooping.
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>>38684450
>Reassure AI little sister
By giving her a physical body to interact with the real world, perhaps?
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>>38684450
This
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>>38684513
Well, not at this moment, but that would be nice to get her eventually. I'm sure she's taken notice of the advanced prosthetic Nina made for Defrah, considered the possible applications of that technology for a remote platform.
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>>38684513
That's more a long term goal, not something we can do anytime soon.
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>>38684212
You absolutely can't help yourself when it comes to women, even if they've got no physical body. And seeing ALICE beat herself like this... it reminds you of yourself when you were a kid, when you finally started discovering your limitations. The days when you started to realize that your teachers were lying when they told you that you could be anything you wanted when you grew up, and that the world was a much colder and crueler place than you ever knew.

Except in this case it's your turn to reassure ALICE, like your father and mother once did for you.

"It's okay," you tell her simply, almost nonchalantly. "It's not a big deal, because I still have complete faith in your skills, ALICE."

"But I can't get the data you need," she insists. "I can't help. I don't have real eyes, or a body, so there'll always be times when I'll be useless."

"And having a body wouldn't help you with this," you observe. "Unless you have the files stored somewhere around here, we'd still need to pick up the physical copies somehow."

"I guess..."

Though she's not happy about her failure, she seems to realize you have a point, and that it's not worth lingering on. So you quickly think up a way she can help, figuring that getting her working on a problem again could snap her out of her slump.

"Hey, could you maybe track down its location?" you ask.

Carya nods, quickly catching on. "Yeah! If we knew that, we could investigate ourselves. There should be shipping manifests, right?"

ALICE briefly flickers off screen...

>Roll me 3d10, target is a 7.
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Rolled 3, 4, 10 = 17 (3d10)

>>38684828
Pretty high bar set there.
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Rolled 3, 4, 4 = 11 (3d10)

>>38684828
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Rolled 10, 4, 9 = 23 (3d10)

>>38684828
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Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>38684828
Tough DC.
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>>38684885

niceeee
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>>38684885
Jolly good.

>writing
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Rolled 8, 4, 4 = 16 (3d10)

>>38684828
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>>38684828
>you started to realize that your teachers were lying when they told you that you could be anything you wanted when you grew up
Wait, hold up. Dom is a psychic mecha pilot who's leading the fight against an evil empire, has met aliens and been told by them that he's their chosen champion, and lives on his spaceship with numerous attractive women who love him deeply. What the hell lofty ambitions did he have that that's not "being what you wanted to be when you grew up"?
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>>38684828
"Got it!" ALICE announces. "I have succeeded in correlating long-range sensor readouts with known Titans shipping, and located a convergence. Far too large to not show up on any of our maps of Titans bases."

"Can you show us?" Karen presses.

"One moment, Commodore."

In an instant the screen displays the Earth Sphere, then zooms out to show the orbit of the Earth around the sun. A small red blip appears on this orbital display.

"It's at the Earth-Sol L1 point?" Audrey asks, surprised at the location chosen by Titans.

Haman shrugs. "It's a fair distance from the civilian colony blocks, but close enough to ease logistical strain."

"Not to mention it falls within Earth's orbit," Emma observes. "In theory at least it'd be harder for Mars Zeon to stage an attack."

Karen stares at the spot on the map before contacting the bridge. "Reiko, have the bridge team estimate the time required for a trip to the following coordinates."

>We should go there in person. Scope the place out.
>We should have Cima use her contacts to find us someone to interrogate.
>Other?
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>>38684828
>you started to realize that your teachers were lying when they told you that you could be anything you wanted when you grew up
Bullshit!
>>38685080
This! He's living the dream!
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>>38685080
He just wanted to be a firefighter dammit!

Also, you forgot all the gold and shit he stole, so you can add rich to that.
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>>38685125
>We should have Cima use her contacts to find us someone to interrogate.
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>>38685141
>wanted to be a firefighter
He should just play firefighter FD 18.
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>>38685125
>>We should go there in person. Scope the place out.
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>>38685125
>>We should have Cima use her contacts to find us someone to interrogate.
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>We should have Cima use her contacts to find us someone to interrogate.
>Other?
--Would it be possible to slingshot something by those coordinates? Ballistically, I mean. No engine emissions. A thing radiating little power, and festooned in passive sensors?
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>>38685125
>We should have Cima use her contacts to find us someone to interrogate.
>Other?
I'm thinking Preventer Wind might be bored and take this one up, if he's not "busy" being a mopey space prince, that is.
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>>38685125
"Well," you begin, "our resident spymaster has sobered up from last night. Maybe she can suggest a contact?"

"And by contact, I of course mean kidnapping victim."

Karen sighs, and gives you a noncommittal shrug. "Might as well try. The rest of you are dismissed, but stay alert. I want you on call."

Cima, as it turns out, is taking a leisurely breakfast in the officers' mess. She waves you over wearily as soon as she spots you.

"How do you manage fresh eggs out this far in space?" she questions you as you sit across from her.

You shrug. "Two kilometers and twelve decks is a lot of space. I need something from you."

"Yes?" she asks, setting aside her utensils and resting her chin on her interwoven fingers. "What could it possibly be?"

"I need someone who knows what Six Shooter is."

Cima's pleasant smile shifts into an almost predatory grin. "I can get you the man you need, but for this one I need something in return."

>Name your terms and you've got it.
>We'll discuss it. I'm sure you understand the haggling process.
>Get me what I want, then we'll discuss what you want.
>Other?
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>>38685651
>We'll discuss it. I'm sure you understand the haggling process.
We're friends, which means we won't insult her by doing something so stupid as agreeing unilaterally.
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>>38685513
It would take twice as long to do it that way, but sure. It's possible.

Way faster to just kidnap a dude.
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>>38685651
>>We'll discuss it. I'm sure you understand the haggling process.

Fair's fair.
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>>38685651
>>We'll discuss it. I'm sure you understand the haggling process.
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>We'll discuss it. I'm sure you understand the haggling process.

I must say I'm curious.
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>>38685651
> "Well I could pretend that I'm not that interested in this among other options to get what I need, or emphasize the importance of this particular action in the grand schemes of our collective interests, but why don't you just outright say what you want in exchange. Doesn't mean I'll agree but I'm sure you'll suggest something not so demanding as to make me look at other options."
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>>38685651
>>We'll discuss it. I'm sure you understand the haggling process.
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>>38685651
"Well, you know how this goes. You know what I want, so name your price and well go from there."

"Haggling?" Cima asks, raising an eyebrow.

"Not promising more than I can deliver."

She nods. "Very well. I need you to give me the Valkyrie."

"You need one of our ships?" you ask in confusion. "Why?"

"The Republic is a generation behind in terms of ship construction," she explains. "Our current fleet is mostly drawn from old hulls. In order to incorporate launch ramps without sacrificing hangar space we've had to re-engineer several Chivvay-class cruisers from the keel up. It's so expensive we only have three of them, and two Zanzibar-II cruisers."

"And you wouldn't be able to get a hold of any of them?" you ask.

"With the way the Republic's come to see me?" Cima laughs. "Not likely. So it's either steal a ship and actually EARN their ire for once, or bum a ship off you."

>Deal.
>We'll see.
>No deal.
>Let's steal a ship, it'll be fun!
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>>38686366
>>Let's steal a ship, it'll be fun!
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>>38686366
>>Let's steal a ship, it'll be fun!
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>>38686366
>Let's steal a ship, it'll be fun!
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>>38686366
>Let's steal a ship, it'll be fun!
Let's grab Papsmear's flagship.
Then we'll have TWO Nagatos.
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>>38686366
>We'll see.
Obviously we'll have to run it through the rest of the crew. And ALICE, she may hang out on the Nagato's servers but her main processor is in the Valkyrie.
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>>38686366
>give me the Valkyrie
No.
>Let's steal a ship, it'll be fun!
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>>38686366

>Let's steal a ship, it'll be fun!
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Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>38686366
>We'll see.
>Let's steal a ship, it'll be fun!
Not from the Republic though. If our target does have a dockyard, we could gun for one of the Titans' Alexandrias. Or we could shipjack one later down the line.

The question is, does she really need it now?
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>>38686472

I like this idea. Steal a newer gen ship from one of our enemies.
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>>38686366
To make it abundantly clear: she has no ship of her own right now. In order to carry out anything remotely resembling independent operations, she'll need a ship to carry her own team of mobile suits.

Stealing a ship instead of just giving her the ship you're not using means you'd have to go off and do something else before dealing with Six Shooter or Paptimus, or else having her operate off the Nagato for now and losing her as an independent Captain.
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>>38686560

Hmm.

If thats the case, can we loan her the valk until we steal a ship for her?
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>>38686560
I'm cool with it.
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>>38686640
... cool with what, anon? Let's be perfectly clear here.
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>>38686366
>Deal.
>Or we could steal one off Riddick. I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
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>>38686560
Ahh, I see. I thought she'd need it afterwards and it's for the benefit of the RoZ as a whole.

Well, if it's a temporary lease, I think I can part with the Valk for the duration of the mission. For wholesale fleet upgrades though, mass produced is the way to go hence the suggestion for an Alexandria.

>"Watch the paint job though, or Defrah would be pretty cross with you, Cima."
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>>38686662
Stealing a ship for her and us too if we can.
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>>38686702
Anon, we already have more ships than we know what to do with, and almost more MS teams than we can actually manage. We don't need three fucking ships.
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>>38686560
offer her the ship for her use. Say we'll steal a vessel for her too as well. No reason not to increase the ships in our fleet.
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>>38686366
>Deal.
What happened to her battleship?
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>>38686761
probably turned over the the Zeonic Navy.

Heck a vessel like that is probably the damn flagship.
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>>38686560
ALICE is in the Valkyrie or something right?
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>>38686366
Okay, since I'm absolutely floored by the response so far, I'm putting this to the five minute vote between just letting Cima use the Valkyrie as her ship for as long as she needs it, versus not letting her use it and stealing a ship for her to use at the soonest convenience.

1 is for sharing
2 is for stealing

Example of a valid vote is as follows; link to this post. In the next line post a 1 or a 2. No punctuation, no other text, no greentext. Just a link and a number.
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>>38686846
1
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>>38686846
2
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>>38686846
1
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>>38686846
1
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>>38686846
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>>38686846
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>>38686846
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>>38686837
No. She's on the Nagato. Roomier architecture that was curiously designed as if it had her presence in mind.

>>38686790
Correct. Her Zanzibar is now part of the Republic's defense forces, captained by a political loyalist.
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>>38686846
1
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>>38686846
Worth noting that we also have an Alexandria and a Salamis, we could easily transfer their MS teams to the Nagto. We have the room for another 200 MS. Note to self, get another 200 MS
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>>38686920
So how did she and her forces get to Londenion? Did she have to charter a commercial spacecraft? Ouch. That's got to be grating for the former queen of the space pirates.
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>>38686846
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>>38686947
200 Qubeley!

Or Re-GZ.
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>>38686962
One of many reasons she needed a drink. Or five.
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>>38686920
Wasn't exactly thinking about the zanzibar though. There was the Gwazine that she captured from Delaz.
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>>38686846
Alright, 1 has ruled the day.

>writing
>this will be a long-ish update, but will also be the last one of the night.
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>>38686999
True. And oh dear god would they never let her take that.
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>>38687039
booo. poop socking politicians.
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>>38687039
We're stealing the Dogosse Giar and giving it to her as a birthday present. Just to teach the republic politicians that screwing with our friends never ends well. NEVER.
>>38686973
ReZELs
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>>38686846

2
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Goddamn! I'm finally here in a thread and I've missed all but the end.

Read this whole thing in one massive archive binge, and I have to say, helluva story you've put together man. Glad to have read it, and hope you've enjoyed writing this as much as I have reading it!
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>>38687012
“I'll talk it over with Karen and see if we can LEND you the Valkyrie,” you offer. “Just don't scratch the paint too bad or Defrah'll kick my ass... probably with her metal leg. And be back by eleven.”

Cima rolls her eyes at you. “Gee, thanks so much dad. I promise I'll be super careful.”

“Now, about that contact?”

“I'll have a few of the spies that are still loyal to me handle it,” she tells you. “I won't even make you beat the information out of him yourself.”

You wince a bit. “Come on, is that really necessary?”

“With the kind of fanatics Titans gets? Yes, probably.”

“I'll tell Karen about our arrangement,” you reply, standing to leave. “She should understand the need.”

True enough, Karen does understand the need. But when you explain the situation to her, she seems miffed that you've essentially pledged one of your two ships to another Captain without consulting her first. Not that you've done it at all, mind you: you figure she's simply unhappy that you didn't involve her in the decision. On the one hand it makes sense that, being the one in charge of your fleet operations she'd consider it her domain. But at the same time, it seems like she's taken it as a silent reproach on your part. As if you've deliberately cut her out of the process for some reason.

You make a mental note to reassure her later, and to try and keep her more up to date in the future despite knowing that this is certainly not the last time you'll be put on the spot like this.
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>>38686947
Grab a team from Riah. They'll support us for a few reasons:
1. They hate the Titans
2. They need access to modern MS designs.
3. They may actually feel grateful for us mitigating the gassing.
4. They hate the Titans.
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>>38687154
ReBawoos
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>>38687329
designed for newtypes. No way to ethically get 200 of those.
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>>38687306
>one of your two ships
We have four ships.
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>>38687353
So are 200 Qubeleys.
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>>38687306
But we DID include her in the process. We didn't promise Cima the ship, just that we'd discuss it with Karen. And asking her was the very first thing we did after meeting with Cima. We couldn't very well have asked her before meeting with Cima, we didn't know she needed the ship then. And she knew we were going to go negotiate with Cima for information. I get it if she's upset about letting go of one of her ships, but we didn't exclude her. Short of coming down to talk to Cima herself, which she still can do if she wants to, there was nothing else she could have been part of. Why is she mad at us?
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>>38687374
Technically, five. Our supertanker, the Pegasus, the Alexander, the Salamis, and Haman's ship.
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>>38687482
I forgot about Haman's ship. I think OP did too.
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>>38687482
>Haman's ship
I'm beginning to think that'll never see any sort of action.
Or it'll appear in the last second to match against a Dogosse Giar class. Who knows.
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>>38687507
I've been trying to get an IP that's not banned for shitposting for the past hour now so I couldn't chime in. Either way, letting Cima bum the Valkyrie isn't a huge loss for the short term.
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>>38687507
Nah, he didn't. That ship never actually got built. We were going to build it, then we got the Nagato, which has everything it would and more. So we abandoned the project.
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>>38687560
No we didn't. It's still under construction in the Republic's drydocks under contract via Haman's contacts. Vist cribbed the diamagnetic system for the Nagato.
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>>38687306
October 20, UC 0084.

When Cima finally gets back to you on what her spies have learned, you're shocked at how quickly it all came together. But that shock is nothing compared to what they have to reveal.

You're in the process of spending some time with your red-haired sisters when Cima finds you. Marida, Cynthia, and Diana have been taking music lessons with Mineva: the clones have taken to their three instruments of choice with an unusual knack, while Mineva seems too fidgety to focus on practicing with her violin.

"You're a half-step flat," Marida observes after Mineva misses a note.

"Shuddup!" Mineva pouts. "S'not fair! How are you three so good!?"

"It's because they've been practicing, Lady Mineva," you sigh. "Pretending to practice isn't the same."

"You weren't much better at her age, I hear," Diana observes.

Cynthia gives you a knowing smile. "I'll bet you were a real delinquent, always sneaking off to play when you should have been studying."

"Do as I say, Lady Mineva, not as I did," you intone. "Come on, you'll have to learn to deal with a lot of things you don't like. It's all part of growing up."

"Growing up is overrated," Catrina interrupts from where she's sprawled lazily over Mineva's bed. "Just means you're all awkward for a few years, then you have to start being a 'productive member of society'. Which is so boring it hurts."

It's that moment when Cima strides through the door, a look of concern obvious in her tired features.

"Those crazy bastards really outdid themselves," she mutters as she drops a manilla file into your hands. "Look that over, I'm taking a copy to Joshua. We have a meeting in five minutes."

The file contains blueprints: schematics for an orbital platform of some sort, nearly as long as the Nagato, like a spindle but with more rectilinear, heavy lines. All along the long axis are what the blueprints show as electromagnets. Powerful ones, too.
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>>38687589
I could have sworn it never actually got that far, but whatever. Either way, it doesn't matter right now. And as for the Alexander and Salamis, I believe those are with Karaba right now, actually. Pretty sure that's what Hearts said happened to them after Dakar.
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>>38687482
You don't actually have the Alexandria or the Salamis, and Haman's design was halted at a late stage of completion.
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>>38687711
Why don't we have them?
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>>38687653

...are they building the fucking angel halo.
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>>38687711
what why was it halted
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>>38687653
Some sort of mass driver? That's the only thing I can think of that would need a two-kilometer spindle full of electromagnets. Have they decided that colony drops are for suckers and that it's better to deal the same amount of kinetic energy with something smaller and faster (and therefore harder to stop)?
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>>38687653
>electromagnets

A colony sized coil gun.sounds like. They take errant asteroids, derelict ships, and broken colony blocks to turn it into a giant shotgun.
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>>38687653
OH FUCK ITS THE JORMUNGANDR
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>>38687774
If they really wanted a mass driver, there's plenty on the moon. Bask is going full Ship of the Line here and using this thing to shit out asteroid sized grape shot.
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>>38687653
"It's a mass driver," you realize aloud. "And a powerful one at that. Takes four battleship-grade reactors to power it for successive shots."

"Jesus," Carya mutters as she peeks over your shoulder with her good eye. "That thing could probably hit Mars from here with minimal deflection. Maybe even accurately enough to hit a specific target."

"It would lose velocity and mass in the air," Cynthia observes. "Still, it's a terrifying weapon."

Then, you spot it: next to a loading elevator there's a large, heavily armored room. It's the station's magazine, and based on the diagrams and manifests it's loaded to capacity with...

"... nukes. Two hundred and fifty nuclear warheads, each in the range of twenty to thirty megatons in yield."

Carrina's jaw drops as her eye confirms what you've told her. The figures don't lie, this was devised as the ultimate in planetary bombardment. From this location outside the Earth Sphere Titans can hit rebellious colonies, cities on the Lunar surface, asteroids, larger ships, and any spot on Earth they took a particular dislike to. Even the surface of Mars is an hour or two away: too fast to mount a defense.

And it's three days from completion.

Marida tries and fails to form a sentence. Cynthia shoots a worried glance at you before giving her sister Diana a hair-ruffle. Mineva seems not to understand, aside from the fact that all the grown-ups are suddenly worried.

It's Carrina who sums it up best.

"Ah, fuck."
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>>38687912

....overkill much?

With a mass driver of that size, the KE impact would dwarf anything that that the bomb would produce.

And frankly, how would the bomb even survive that sort of acceleration?
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>>38687958
>how would the bomb even survive that sort of acceleration?
Space magic.
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>>38687912
Really Riddick? It's a nuclear artillery platform? That's so lame. There's a fuckton of debris just floating there that you could turn into improvised grape shot with enough electromagnets. Just need a hopper big enough for a colony block and you're set.
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>>38687958

KE impact doesn't leave an area uninhabitable for generations.

this is not a "shock and awe" weapon...this is a "salt the earth" weapon.
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>>38687958
Hold up, I'm doing the calculations for something moving fast enough to reach Mars in two hour. Give me a minute here.
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>>38687912
>"Ah, fuck."
Indeed.

And this is the info we're gonna bait Voight with to face off against Pappy?
Yeah, he'll bite alright. But he'd want to claim it intact as much as possible too.
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>>38688083
I'm guessing it's at least a respectable fraction of c.
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>>38687912
And that's where I'll have to leave off for tonight. Archive is up, and thanks for playing! Sorry about the timing, but until March 29 it'll be at the same time as today: one hour *later* than normal for the US.

>>38687866
Essentially it's a nuclear machine gun. Each round itself is nearly impossible to intercept and fast enough to minimize the need for complicated aiming procedures, and it can fire five per minute at damn near any target in the solar system. In theory, it could even be used to hit targets in the Jupiter Empire if a way could be found to identify them. And of course, against space-based targets you can core the target itself and use the EM burst to devastating effect on anything near it.

>>38687740
They're with Karaba. That organization needed ships, and you and your teams operate mostly independently. They're soldiers, who follow orders and need a chain of command. You guys... you're something else at this point.

>>38687769
Partly a lack of need on the part of you and yours, partly the dockyards lost a political pissing match over taking outside orders.
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>>38688083
Depends a lot on orbital positioning. It will probably be impossible for certain portions of the orbit.
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>>38688148
I know, I'm doing it based on the assumption that it's the closest orbit and that gravitational influences are minimal due to the high velocity.
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>>38688128
>They're with Karaba. That organization needed ships, and you and your teams operate mostly independently. They're soldiers, who follow orders and need a chain of command. You guys... you're something else at this point.
That is indescribably annoying. Did we donate all our money to them without being asked as well?
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>>38688128
Are we ever getting mooks? Or is this massive ship going to remain almost entirely empty for no real reason.
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>>38688122
It is. With the math I did, it was about .3c, or something like that. I kind of lost my notes on the exact figures, but it's a negligible amount of time as far as space travel goes.

Anything much bigger than a tungsten carbide jacketed nuke would take more energy than I felt was reasonable, even with magical M-Particles involved, and the nuclear payload gave it an interesting application against targets in space.

>>38688012
Very true. You're not killing one target, you're killing the target, its whole family, and anyone who's ever seen it. Plus, it's possible to swap out for a dirty bomb. Makes a big crater AND leaves a bunch of radioactive vapor and particulate matter.

It's an all-purpose "fuck you" device.
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>>38688083
Light from Mars reaches Earth in about, what, 4ish minutes? Light travels at roughly 300km a second. So, an object would be traveling roughly around really fucking fast to reach Mars in two hours.

>>38688216
>>38688257
I'm still slightly upset that the Sadalahn was cancelled without any indication at all. I've been looking forward to giant, holographic Haman.
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>>38688122
Okay, worked it out. Assuming low-efficiency orbit, just flying as directly to Mars as possible, and that the launch vehicle masses somewhere around... let's say ten metric tons, then the energy delivered upon impact is going to be around 50 TJ, about as much as a low-grade nuclear weapon. So putting the warhead on actually improves the energy delivered considerably.
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>>38688305
Honestly, I'm annoyed at how he keeps taking away our mooks without asking us, and reducing the scale of the conflict. I was hopping for a fight to surpass Loum.
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>>38688216
>>38688257
You're not in anyone's regular chain of command at this point, especially after you pretty much went rogue from Titans. None of the people who are following you now are *required* to follow you. They do it because they respect you, and they believe that serving alongside or behind you will change humanity for the better. You may not have legions of ships and men at your command like canon Haman did, but each and every one of them would lay down their lives for you and your fellow pilots if you asked.

The crews of the two surrendered Titans ships made their choices, same as how South chose to go with them to look after what was left of his old team. So unless you were willing to keep them in your flotilla at gunpoint, I don't see what the issue is.
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>>38688275
>nuclear payload on a Rod from God
>when the impacter alone would be in the gigajoules or even terajoules at high c velocity

Dude. Like what.
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>>38688305
You're a few orders of magnitude off. Light travels at 300 THOUSAND kilometers per second. To get from Earth to Mars in two hours shouldn't take you above 31 thousand kilometers per second. So about one percent of the speed of light. Not enough for relativistic equations to mean anything, they don't start making meaningful changes in kinetic energy until about 14% of the speed of light.
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>>38688425
>not realizing the projectile isn't going anywhere near relativistic
>not knowing that a high C projectile would deliver far more than terajoules of energy
>not knowing that even a nuke outputs thousands of terajoules of energy

Dude. Like what.
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>>38688398
See >>38688373
Also, we could have asked, or you could have at least had the courtesy to tell us that they were leaving us.
My problem is that I'm not feeling any payoff from our entire attempt to infiltrate the Titans.
That, and I think your sense of scale has gotten off recently. Riddick should have sent at least 10 ships if he was going to try to take out a major asteroid base for example.
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>>38687958
You don't design it as a bomb in the conventional sense. In a normal nuke you need all that complex shit to make sure your shaped charges go off in as close as possible to perfect unison to super-compress the primary weapons grade fissile material to critical mass. In a mass driver like this though you can use the kinetic impact to do the work for you, and due to the absurd power of this particular monster you will get a MUCH higher compression ratio than would normally be possible (Conventional nukes are actually only able to make a relatively small portion of the working mass go supercritical) meaning you will get vastly more bang per kilo, the rest is just a matter of practical engineering.
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>>38688373
There's also the fact we've been riding around on an asteroid miner without strip mining asteroids to replenish our resource bunkers. We could've had those GM-IIIs by now but noo.
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>>38688465
Shit, meant ten, not one, now I'm the one dropping orders of magnitude. Still not relativistic velocities, though.
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>>38688373

Unless someone gets the Titans under their control without blowing most of it away and Axis arrives tomorrow, I doubt it'll happen.

What's the status of everyone's forces anyway? Generally speaking that is. I know the Federation is still top dog but is a massive chunk of it still under the Titans' authority? What's Axis like for that matter?
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>>38688257
What do you think this is, TG Metaquest?
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>>38688588
We've been busy. Even the nearest asteroids are far enough away to take us out of the game for weeks if not months. Things have been too busy for us to get the chance to mine asteroids.
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>>38688465
I really wish I still had the notes for that, but then again even the basic physics behind m-particle reactions is bullshit anyway. Much easier to say it either makes a big hole, a big radioactive hole, or a big EM burst in a way that's difficult or impossible to counter, and leave it at that.
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>>38688556
That's my point. You don't need a nuke at all when the rod itself delivers as much energy as a nuke. Adding the nuke just adds to the cost of the impacter. It could disintegrate in-flight or in the firing block of the gun itself.
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>>38688609
The Federation had 100 ships a while back, when they thought the Zeon remnants where on their last legs and were just interested in dickwagging. They probably had a bunch more before everything went to hell.
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>>38688639
And my point is that you're not getting it. The projectile isn't going that fast. I did the math up-thread, its kinetic energy is going to have less of an impact than the projectile itself. About fifty terajoules, as opposed to the nuke's thousand terajoules. It's more efficient this way than to raise the velocity into relativistic levels and have to deal with the issues that raises.
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>>38688609
Sort of why I wanted to get Tachibana in on the scheming. He's our in-guy for the relatively sane branch of Titans after all.
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>>38688564
>My problem is that I'm not feeling any payoff from our entire attempt to infiltrate the Titans.
Are we even using our Nazi gold?
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>>38688736

Yeah I can see that. Admittedly, I actually wanna follow him around for a couple threads as a change of pace. Or even Scirocco or Bask, just to see what shit is like on their end.
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>>38688771
Nope. Because that would mean we had Mooks, and we apparently aren't allowed to have those anymore.
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>>38688736
we should inform him of this threat as well though.

Send him our intel on it. Hes sane enough.
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>>38688724
I'm just flabbergasted that Titans would even expend the resources to design a metal rod that contains a nuke when it's cheaper to stamp out metal rods.
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>>38688771
I assumed that we've been using it for payroll ever since we stopped being government-funded.
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>>38688797

Did we even have them to begin with? Outside of the Titans who went 'TIME OUT' after Libot and went off with Burning, it's literally been Dom's group the entire time. It's why I'm kinda surprised no one just wiped em off the earth by now.
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>>38688398
>None of the people who are following you now are *required* to follow you. They do it because they respect you, and they believe that serving alongside or behind you will change humanity for the better.
That is exactly how Canon Haman and Char worked. They ran on pure charisma and nostalgia.
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>>38688856
We had South's people, some commando's and conventional titan's backup one two other missions.
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>>38688829
It's a cost-benefit analysis thing. They can't get the same energy output by raising the velocity, that requires exponentially greater energy consumption. So they can either fire lots of rods very quickly, or fire at the current rate and get the rods to deliver energy through non-kinetic means. Presumably they concluded that it was cheaper to reinforce the nukes against the acceleration than to add all the extra reactors, capacitors and cooling systems to the accelerator needed to increase rate of fire.
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>>38688856
Two reasons. The Nagato is a fortress citadel and the publics reaction to offing us. It would be mutiny. That's how I've rationalized it.
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>>38688962
That, and concentrating enough force to off us without leaving yourself wide open isn't easy.
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>>38688797
I don't want mooks. Mooks exist to end up killed, and if they're not killed, will cause our character list to bloat up. It's already too large, anymore and it's a tumor.

We've got to start the killing fields.
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>>38688962

The public reaction I kinda get but on the other, most of Dom's foes would likely not care. Certainly not Bask whose idea of PR is punching the host and then ranting about spacenoid scum.

And isn't the Nagato just the Jupitris? But with actual point defense?
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>>38688771
The asteroid-mining thing is a matter of space being, for the most part, kind of empty. The areas where that's less true are out of your way.

The Nazi gold thing is more a matter of staying covert. Behind the scenes, keeping the gold meant that you can pay for resupply much more easily, and get rid of the stolen gold in fairly small amounts while saving other funds for other purposes. It also circumvented a possible story route where you would have run low on supplies after cutting ties with Titans.

There's also a lot of effort going into R&D for the endgame versions of your own machines and upgrades for your second and third teams. Much of your manpower and almost all of your gundarium is slated to work on that, making mass production of mobile suits unlikely (read: impossible, for now).

>>38688609
Generally speaking, Titans is in a rough spot. About half its remaining forces are in Om's camp, a third are in Papsmear's camp, and the remainder fall into Tachibana's camp. Regular EFSF forces outnumber Titans three to one, but mostly are using older equipment.

The Republic of Zeon has rolled out what they're touting as the "ultimate grunt": the Zaku III. Their numbers are small, but their force deployment is relatively constrained, so within their own territory they've got a nice, dense coverage of patrols and firebases.

Axis is scary. At this point, just their advance force will be the largest challenge for your teams in a straight fight, discounting interference from the Zeon remnants and Titans. In terms of handling its full forces?

Zero chance on your own. Too many bodies.
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>>38689009
Not if they are faceless. I literally want 100 nameless scrubs in a bunch of REZELs.
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>>38689026
>Axis is scary. At this point, just their advance force will be the largest challenge for your teams in a straight fight, discounting interference from the Zeon remnants and Titans. In terms of handling its full forces?
>Zero chance on your own. Too many bodies.

...I see.

Obviously the answer is to CAPTURE the gun and turn it on axis.

Turn it into an atomic fireball.
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>>38689021
And almost a dozen Newtype pilots with varying degrees of hateboner for the Titans. That alone would necessitate a considerable investment in force with the amount of bullshit a space wizard brings to the table.
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>>38689056
>CAPTURE the gun and turn it on axis.
This
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>>38689026
And Riah, and Karba?
For that matter what happened to us running Karba?
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>>38689026

Earth is doomed to fail, Dom should've talked more instead of winging it.

Is this the canon Zaku III or something else? What are the Titans rocking? Will Jerid and Mouar ever get a good end? WILL I SEE THE GABTHLEY?! Just out of curiosity and all.
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>>38689021
Yeah, the Nagato is an armored Zeon helium tanker. What good armor does against particle beams and heavy ordinance is another matter.
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>>38688871
Canon Haman's troops had no loyalty. Leina all but confirmed that they were just in it as a convenience.

>>38688918
That, and the fact that they literally have stockpiles of the damn warheads lying around at this point in the timeline. Every ship comes equipped with them.

>>38689021
The Nagato is an older Zeon design. The way I understand it is that Jupitris was actually never intended to be a warship, but rather was designed by the Jovians with the understanding that they were "off-limits".

Zeon had its own helium carriers that appear to be designed to take a beating and carry their own defenses, but never appear outside of fairly obscure side material.
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>>38689151
What is the status of the other faction?
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>>38689123
Karaba is part of Londo Bell with us, remember? We don't have direct authority over them but they're working with us. So the people complaining about us "giving away our mooks" to Karaba are kind of silly, in my opinion. We don't have them working with us on our ops, but they're still available to be called upon if we need them.
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>>38689056
>CAPTURE the gun and turn it on axis.
...that's just restaging AEUG's seizure of Gryps 2.
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>>38689136
Earth was fucked when the first colony fell. We're just now getting into the consequences of our little planetary skirmish. And talking does jack when the other guy has more bodies and a God complex. Best you can do is off the guy with the small dick and install your own small dicked puppet.
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>>38689291
He does not have more bodies.
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>>38689136
It's the canon Zaku III, because it's already a powerful design that suited what I'd presume to be Cima's tastes. Modular, reliable, and fast.

Titans is in an unusual phase. The Gaplant and Asshimar are mainstays to a greater degree than canon, as is the Marasai due to your team generally praising the design but trashing the build quality and execution of the Hizack. The unusual part is that each faction is working on its own advanced units right now, largely designed around countering you with varied degrees of cleverness and success.

The EFSF is currently using Hizacks and GM Canon IIs as mainstays, with elite units fielding GM Sniper IIs.

Gabby will likely not be making an appearance due to changes in the tech development.

Jerid is... in an interesting place right now. Can't say much without spoilers, but hitting his head that hard on the concrete may have had some side effects.

I *can* say that they're together at the moment.

>>38689123
Riah is still on its "we can't afford big ships so we're using mobile armors" plan. Karaba uses a real mix of whatever it can find, but is spearheaded by two teams of Zeta-type machines.

Blex and Kowen are running Karaba's political and military branches, at your suggestion.
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>>38689151

KoH, if we consider our current equipment to be Stage 3, taking our previous older equipment and comparing it to the current standard lineup of the EFSF regular forces, will it be better?

I'm just seeing how we can introduce better equipment and suits to the regular forces without compromising our technological edge. Since everything we release will make their way to the enemy.
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>>38689328
Who, Dogatie?
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>>38689328
More than us that's for sure when you consider Fucking Voight, Mussolini, Riddick, and whomever else crawls out of engineering to take a swing. We might have quality, but quality can be overwhelmed with sheer numbers.
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>>38689151

Oh, that makes sense then. It certainly looks beefy.

>No loyalty

To be fair, maybe like...roughly a half of her troops were proper loyal but combined with mismanagement of the war (end of Gryps, flubbing up the earth invasion) and Glemmy being an upstart, most of them jumped ship. An army that could wreck shit probably helped.
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>>38689350
>The EFSF is currently using Hizacks and GM Canon IIs as mainstays, with elite units fielding GM Sniper IIs

>GM Canon IIs and GM Sniper IIs
Love it!
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>>38689350
>Jerid is... in an interesting place right now
I swear, if he and Mouar shows up in a couple of Baund Docs, the residual energy from Dom and his teams' Newtype ridicule will be felt up to the Regild Century.
Yeah, I really don't like its design.
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>>38689350
>GM Cannon IIs

Did they at least strip off the majority of that bulky armor? If not, RIP in peace whomever pilots those.
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>>38689401
I meant Axis does not have more men the EFSF
>>38689350
>It's the canon Zaku III, because it's already a powerful design that suited what I'd presume to be Cima's tastes. Modular, reliable, and fast.
Did the Gebera Kai get produced? I recall it was heavily requested.
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>>38689492
It's cadaveriffic, though. The scattering beam cannon it has is like the GM's beam spray gun on steroids.
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>>38689350

Some day you will shine Gabthley, some day...At least Jerid and Mouar are still tight for however long they live.

I'm surprised the EFSF is rocking the Cannon II instead of the Hizack Custom. They're like in a weird Gihren's Greed game where they tried to pump it all into old stuff.

Whatever happened to Zero Murasame? I vaguely recall meeting him back when we took Rossie
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>>38689350
>Riah is still on its "we can't afford big ships so we're using mobile armors" plan.
I assume they are investing in better MS thought?
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>>38689470
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

>>38689355
Your old machines could probably see limited production. Your current machines are far too powerful and responsive for a normal pilot.

The machines you'll have in a few sessions will be like piloting a human-shaped F1 car in three dimensions while people are shooting at you, and being expected to fire back. Literally, I worked out the thrust ratios the same way other machines are handled in Gundam tech books, and I had to *scale it back* to 5G linear acceleration.

The mooks are something I've needed to redesign to even present a challenge, which is why you're getting MP units with heavier weapons and 2.5-3G maximum acceleration.
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>>38689492
Yeah, it's really goofy looking.
Like a gundam crossed with a beetle.
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>>38689666
Maybe we'll see Gazas and Bawoos from them.

If they weren't mass-producing the Val Varo when they decided MA stronk, they really fucked up. I seem to remember them MPing Dendrobium IIs for some reason.
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>>38689536
>Did the Gebera Kai get produced
How could it not? I fucking love that design. It gets introduced tomorrow.

>>38689576
>Whatever happened to Zero Murasame
You'll find out as soon as the Murasame lab comes up as a target.

>>38689666
Yeah, but it's not saying much. A Zaku I would be better than what they were using in the war.
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>>38689716
then perhaps we should release dome designs. their elite units could do with some better machines.
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>>38689757
Because they were better
>>38689767
>Yeah, but it's not saying much. A Zaku I would be better than what they were using in the war.
I meant from when the gas attack, where they learned the hard way that a Rick Diaz is worse than useless against any serious opponent.
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>>38689757
>for some reason
That's because that's what they did. Dendrobium stronk, remove Zeek from the premises.

On that note I hope I answered your questions to some degree of satisfaction, but I'm all out of juice. Tomorrow, you have a mobile nuclear launch platform to deal with I seriously considered calling it "Metal Gear *something*", or "Orbital Gear", or something similarly MGS related
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>>38689767

Awwww snap, evil Heero stronk. Rossie was from Oakley right? I know Four is, well, Murasame and Rosamia is Augusta as was Gates. Dom's got his work cut out for him the longer he takes with raiding these places. If it's even feasible by the time he gets around to em.
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>>38689843
thanks for running KoH. you're awesome.
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>>38689843

Have a good night man. I super hope for a goofy box disguise made with a Columbus.
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>>38689976
I'll see what I can do.



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